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Episode Date: November 26, 2021

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Happy Thanksgiving. It is the Morning Combat Mailbag Holiday Edition. I don't know, if maybe you hate your family and this is the only thing you got going for you, well consider us with you. I'm the American Alpha, BC, Brian Campbell. That is Luke Thomas. You know us as your MKDUO.

And yes, right now in the space time continuum, Luke, as people are watching this, I'm actually in Jamaica on the beach, about eight pina coladas deep, got a giant belly kids running around everywhere. My wife probably hates me. It's paradise. Yeah. I have to drive to Richmond, which I am not looking forward to it's not very far away it's actually when there's no traffic just a couple of hours but the stretch of traffic on i-95 is the worst in america probably worst anywhere outside of mumbai and uh i'm not looking forward to it two of the of the worst places to drive in the world are actually i-95 and the final stretch in connecticut and i-95 through new york city so i the world are actually I-95 and the final stretch in Connecticut

and I-95 through New York City. So I wouldn't doubt that I-95 to Richmond is just like that. Obviously we are pre-recording this, but we wanted to respond to the questions you guys send in, have a little fun. Luke, a little precursor here. I've been getting a lot of DMs. Hey BC, are you getting jaundiced? What's up with your yellow eye don't forget guys i'm old and washed i slipped off a ladder on some wet and elevated ground while cleaning the gutters the other day i got a nice little little mini black eye and actually went for an x-ray today because uh i screwed up my knee there i don't know if i tore a ligament or a hamstring or something luke i I'm just an old mess. Did you get – how was the MRI, I guess is what I'm asking. The x-ray came clean in terms of any bone issues,

but they said I got to go to a specialist to find out what I did to any ligaments or whatever. It's not too bad. X-rays are not good for soft tissue damage. They said there's a calcium deposit. There's a fuzzy area where it could be something like that but uh i just feel like it's gonna snap every time i walk so you know i'll probably just get really drunk and lay around in jamaica so it'll be great but uh yeah can't wait

to be there that's where i am right now as you're watching this uh and that's that okay luke uh thanksgiving you know you and i have had some epic rants about it. It's my favorite holiday without question. Just a quick reminder. Why no gifts all about family. So there's no pressure on the gifts. Thanksgiving is the holiday. I think you'll agree, Luke, where people travel and come back home the most. So you have the best chance to catch up with people, your old friends, your family, and the number three on the three F's Luke family food. Of course the food is insanely great. And football, dude, when you come from a factory town, high school football, the rivalry with Ansonia, it's everything watching the NFL,

playing the family game in the backyard, playing Madden all day. The three F's go, go together. Like, you know, like, like peanut butter and jelly on Thanksgiving's go, go together. Like, you know, like, like peanut butter and jelly on Thanksgiving. I love that shit. Luke, did you have the same affinity growing up for this great holiday? My family is openly hostile to organized sports. I'm the lone exception in that rule. So the way it works is that if Thanksgiving is at my house, well, what's my rules I'll put on football. I don't give a damn what anyone has to say, but when I travel to either my brother or my sister's house, whatever it ends up being,

uh, that's their rules and they don't ever watch football. So I ended up having to catch it kind of after the fact, or when I get home or, you know, whatever it may be, it's not, it's not, it's not a great scenario. Those communists. Yeah. I mean, it's the great American holiday because you know, you just get really gluttonous and enjoy your family and get fat it's great so uh luke we have some fun questions to break down uh and get into and uh anything else you want to say to the to the fine people before we do that thumbs up on the video and hit subscribe i mean is your favorite show doing this on thanksgiving No. Probably not. Probably not.

This has got to be the one that should have been. So shout out to you. Luke, do you want to read the first one here? I'm trying to find my show. Sure, I can do that as we kind of, you know, fuck our way through this. All right. BC, very simple question. What does your Thanksgiving plate look

like? Yes. Yes. I have always gone to my dad's side of the family on Thanksgiving. So there's always been a loaded house, a lot of aunts, grandmas that can cook. So the traditional Campbell plate on Thanksgiving, by the way, my mom has also learned how to cook in this manner. She makes a mean Thanksgiving meal. I know you and I have debated and argued in the past, but turkey to me is just something you put on the side. The main course of the meal for us French Canadians is the meat pie. That's the centerpiece. That is incredible. It's a pie crust with some beef, chicken, and turkey all mished together

with some cinnamon spice on top of it. It's a finely grounded breaded beef or or meat excuse me inside of there and then you put the toppings on so i'm a mashed potato guy gravy corn corn to me is such a huge part the true mvp is the stuffing though uh and then luke we've already debated many times i like me some cranberry but i like the cheap smooth cranberry sauce not Not the uppity, you know, actual chunk berries. F that crap. Give me the crap mashed potatoes, the crap gravy with the crap thing. You know, all that.

I'll do a green bean casserole. I'll throw a little there. I'll do a little turnip. I'll throw a little there just for the variety. Get me a roll. My Aunt Cheryl makes some lasagna with it which sounds wacky but it kind of fits in nice uh when you put it all together and obviously my plate is overflowing and everything's mixing together and it's just american joy luke that's

what i do on thanksgiving what about you uh my brother my sister are much better cooks than me so i'm usually at the mercy of what they make but i'm also lucky in that way so obviously there would be turkey but it's going to be prepared it's going to be like a heritage turkey ever had a heritage turkey i don't know what that means oh buddy you you're just i mean you don't even have any concept of what you are missing if you're going just getting the butterball joints you got to get the heritage turkey that's a completely different ball game uh it's like the brock lesnar of turkeys completely different ballgame. It's like the Brock Lesnar of turkeys. I mean, not even going to get riding to Clydesdale

as opposed to a regular horse. It's fucking unbelievable. It's huge too. We'd have one of those. My brother would probably make it a number of different ways. I fried it one of my Thanksgivings, which was unbelievable, but they won't do that. Then my brother will always have some kind of red meat that is prepared impeccably he's big on a sous vide

kick you ever had sous vide meat what the hell is sous vide luke oh my god dude where do you eat that you don't know about any of these culinary mechanisms or think about first of all just just real quick i'm usually at a you know growing up i I'd be at a Thanksgiving dinner at my grandmother's that had like 55, 60 people. So we're not necessarily, Luke, looking at the most gourmet time put in. It's like a soup kitchen type deal. So we like the slop. Are you talking about super elite gourmet cooking in your family? I wouldn't call it like super elite gourmet, but it's basically when they cook it in the bag through a vacuum

is essentially how it's made like ceviche is food cooked in acid and sous vide is like essentially the the vacuum or through pressure anyway i should say um although i believe there's a heat component as well um through the water anyway long story short it's uh the meat comes out insanely tender from there it's a bit it's a bit interesting. So my brother married a, a very lovely woman, but from the South. So she'll make any kind of pie. That's got a fruit in it,

like a peach pie or a blueberry pie. And they're always fresh. They're amazing. She makes those from scratch. Yes. She makes the Mac and cheese. Unbelievably gluttonous. You know,

the, I mean, the cheese is just overwhelming it's amazing from there though it's it's hard to say exactly i will be honest because of my my digestive issues i have like legitimate digestive issues at this age i will i gotta throw some greens on that plate man i don't i don't like care to admit it i'm not recommending it i'm not saying it's cool i mean i'll do the green bean casserole, but it's like breaded vegetables. No, I got to have something that kind of helps the food digest.

So I'd have a little bit of like, you know, mesclun salad or something. But it's usually a bit of a grab bag from there. From there, like my wife will sometimes make some food. So we'll make like a little. Yeah. So let me let me ask you this. Since she is a straight from Columbia, but but has been in the US a while. Has she adjusted to this whole Thanksgiving idea?

She obviously didn't grow up with anything similar, right? No, there's no such thing like that over there. She's come around to it, but even then, she didn't really start celebrating until we dated. So that's only the last 10-plus years. In the course of her life, that's not that many. She likes it not as much as Christmas. Christmas is huge in Columbia. It's a big catholic country you can kind of imagine but um she gets around to what the colombian empanadas they're much smaller they're like almost bite size um and they're made

with like a corn tortilla so you put like lime on them and uh whatever else and they're fucking amazing so we'll bring some of those okay my wife will sometimes make uh ropa vieja which is this really good kind of shredded beef um yeah dude i get busy i get busy on thanksgiving your brother's wife though makes a mean cherry pie how's her pound cake she made pound cake i don't think she's made pound cake for us yet uh because if somebody can really cook southern style and can do like the corn muffins and the cornbread and all that shit. I'm, I'm down Luke. Yeah, that's her specialty. That's her route. And a lot of times she grows the fruit herself. So we're pretty lucky. I I'm, I'm pretty spoiled. And then for drink, what are you drinking with that? Uh, if I'm going uncle Tony's, he's got bud light cans. Shout out to uncle Tony. Uh,

there's, uh, you know, glass of milk doesn't hurt with that. I like that, Luke. I like that. I would say with that one, you know, I always find an excuse for red wine. So I'll probably have – see what my family comes up with. You guys are actually pretty sophisticated, plus you have actual chefs and, you know, restaurateurs in your family. Yeah. So what will be the activity? Because, you know, in my family house, it would be video game tournaments, outdoor football, a lot of eating, telling stories.

What do they do at the Thomas house? I think it's at my sister's place this year, so I think making a fire. I'm not sure. Usually what happens is whoever's house we rotate at, they kind of just set the rules. We haven't done it at my sister's place in a long time. Also, I didn't go to Thanksgiving last year because of the pandemic. So your guess is as good as mine.

I guess we'll see. Obviously, my daughter's going to be with me, so some outdoor activity is going to be inevitable. Will Pepe and Abuela go? They will not. They will not. I think they're going to be in Columbia, actually. So it's just going to be me, my wife, and my kid.

All right. Sounds good. You guys are probably enjoying it as we speak, as people are watching this right now. actually so uh it's just going to be me my wife and my kid all right sounds sounds good you guys are probably enjoying it as we speak as people are watching this right now luke our second question here is what are the three fights we need to see in 2022 now i think we should include boxing mma uh triller trigon fight uh bkfc uh superbowls uh luke uh we can alternate here one at a time let's start with you what's the number one fight in 2022 in combat sports you need to see 2022 that i need to see um now i've got one at the top of my mind let me think for just a second if there's a better oh this is easy for me max versus volkanovanovski. Oh, it's three. Yes.

The third. Like, you know, who's... Leave or go home or whatever it is. Stay or go home. And a winner takes all. Whatever you want to say. Whatever the proper description is. That is top of the line for me. There's a bunch of other great ones you could go to, actually.

It's not that hard to think of several. But I just feel like that has so much weight on it for that division. Those two guys' careers. Two decorated careers. One Hall of Fame career, at least for now. Maybe there'll be two down the line. We'll see. But that's a big one.

What about you? It normally would have been Spence Crawford, but I think like a lot of boxing fans, we're sort of souring on the idea, not that we don't want to see it, not that we don't think it's still possible, but that it's missed its prime window because Crawford's 34, Spence has had a lot of health concerns, and now he's got the eye surgery and all that. So, look, I'd say my number one most anticipated of one I have to see, I hope we see, you know, it's probably still Fury Joshua for all four belts.

And obviously it's like we may not even get there. You know what I mean? Like Usyk's got to get the rematch. We could see fury against dillian white boxing politrists could play a role but look you know as good as well as i do you can get all four heavyweight belts for a first time undisputed champion two giant stars that you put it in a soccer stadium outdoors in the uk with a hundred thousand fans that has like an actual super feel, which we don't always get in this sport. You know, usually our biggest fights are in MGM Grand, which is great, but, you know, it's all high rollers.

It's a 16,000 people max. We're talking about an outdoor stadium with two larger-than-life personalities to crown the heavyweight king. Even though that style matchup, like every other fight I could offer to you is a better style matchup, probably more competitive. But there's an element of like royalty and luster to this that if we end up getting Fury and Joshua, it'll mean more.

It might mean more than any boxing fight since Mayweather Pacquiao. Ooh. That might be right. That might be right. That might be right. Because Canelo is doing something absurd and amazing, but a lot of these times you're learning about his opponent for the first time to the casual audience rather than being these two enormous forces colliding. It's a good point.

You might be right. Also, just thinking about what the fan base might want, I would imagine they're going to want the winner of Gone. Well, first of all, you're going to get Gone versus Francis in January, right? So there's that. Then the winner of that. Real quick, would you want Jon Jones versus the winner of that more than you want Gone versus Ngannou?

I would say, speaking, I mean, individual preferences are going to be where they are, but just sort of looking at where the fan base's interest is at, the answer to that would be unequivocally yes. In part because, like, dude, what's he doing? How long is he going to be here? What's it all going to mean? Plus, there's that X factor about Stipe.

He's still not done yet. And by the way, maybe he's not necessarily at the peak of his prime, but it might be real dumb to bury him too. Like, there's a lot of ways that the very top of that heavyweight division could play out in a number of different respects. And, you know, by the way, what if Francis and gone ends up being like, I think we all kind of expect Francis versus gone to be like decidedly one way or the other, right?

Either Francis is going to completely, maybe he'll have some troubles, but, you know, viciously KO him or gone's just going to completely, maybe he'll have some troubles, but viciously KO him. Or Gon's just going to kind of pick him apart over the course of five rounds or however long it lasts and win. You kind of expect one of the other two. You're not like, gee, I don't know what's really going to happen here in terms of what the complexion might look like. But who knows? Who knows what that actually ends up being like?

There's a lot of different ways you could go. I'd say my most anticipated MMA fight is one that luckily is already on the calendar luke i've convinced myself that uh adesanya whittaker 2 will be everything the first one was maybe supposed to be and i don't mean i was disappointed by the first one it's just that it was it was a little surprising to me the ease that adesanya ended up finishing him um you know I think we're going to see three of these. And then, well, if I say that, it means I think Whitaker is going to win the second one, right? I just think that this is a rivalry that will matter and that the second one is going to be a tremendous fight.

Remember, you know, Adesanya got pushed into like a real drag down affair with Gastelum. I feel like this has the potential to be that kind of title fight where it's all blood, guts, and glory. And just look at how many times we've seen two great fighters, and sometimes the first time they meet, it's one-sided as hell, right? But then someone makes an adjustment. And maybe the ledger doesn't change in terms of who won and who lost. In other words, the same person wins both. But that second fight is a completely different story I first of all I am not in any way dismissing Whitaker's chances of winning I think they are as real as they have ever been probably

the very best in fact that's sort of the point I'm making I don't know who's going to win that one but I am guessing it's going to be razor close razor close if Adesanya smokes him twice I mean that would be an extraordinary achievement. I favored Whitaker in the first one. I think the betting odds did as well. I never thought we'd get here, but I actually think he might be in a better place than he was then with this win streak.

That really ups the ante on what I expect. Luke, what would you say is your number three most anticipated? You can go wild card here. You could go dream fight. You could go non-title fight. I have one. I have one. And I'm not – again, this is – I'm only saying this because I'm just

playing this game a little bit. Maybe it actually isn't my number three. I'll go Shevchenko-Nunez three. I think that – I don't know how much time Nunez has left in the sport. Listen, those fights, the first one was fun, actually. It was not great, but it was pretty good. Second fight sucked. It was not awesome.

It wasn't a thrilling fight. I mean, when you say it's bad, it sounds like you're blaming them. It was what it was, but it was not exciting. I don't think anybody on Earth could argue that it was exciting. Third one might be just the same, but I feel like it's important to get that resolution bc i agree with you on that i agree with you i'm i would put that in my top five and i'm trying to think trying not to get too hipster you know what what what is the fight what is the fight that i

that i'm freaking dying for that i need to see don't you feel like yon sterling was also one that came to mind no i mean for a one, I don't need to see that. I feel like I learned everything I did from the first one. You know me, I get pumped for the wild card type fight. So I'm thinking of like Suhudo coming back against somebody you didn't think you would. Now, not necessarily Volkanovski. How about this? How about this?

Suhudo Jan. Suhudo Jan would be one of those just hardcore dreams. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Maybe I would put that right there. I think we're at a weird spot in boxing, Luke, where normally I can give you seven, eight, nine, 10, you know, fights I'm hoping for. There's none, just, there's not a ton like leaping out, jumping out at me. So does that mean we've gotten good fights we wanted lately, or we're just at a standstill i mean i want or or listen listen what happens what happens if porter uh you know we're recording this you know at a time where i shouldn't say this

but we don't know if porter has won against crawford or not like we don't know so there's a lot i mean you just dude you every time this is what it true or false bc and it's more true in mma because mma is super chaotic and so young that the sport is still evolving it's a little less true in boxing but it is true in both dude every time you feel like you know how the contours of the game works like okay these kinds of guys beat these kinds of guys that one's going to beat this one this one loses this campus but every time you feel like you've got it sorted some result comes through and just shakes up all that shit and you're like no that's actually not the way it works so you have to rethink things all the time, you know,

in the spirit of that, who knows, who knows what, what could happen between now and then. What I was forgetting was, was the lightweight division of boxing and all those young names. We always talk about if I had to make one matchup out of their Luke and no,

I don't think we're going to see it in 2022. I think my favorite matchup would be tail female Lopez against Gervonta Davis. I think. Good. Imagine that when they're this young, I think my favorite matchup would be Teofimo Lopez against Gervonta Davis. I think that would be great. Good God, that would be great. Imagine that when they're this young. Imagine doing that.

Oh, golly, dude. That would. I told you. I told BC this after it happened. It's been a long while since I had covered boxing in a relatively consistent way. Almost 10 years or more really. And, um, uh, you know, so in my mind, uh, boxing has still been sort of a mental prioritization on the back burner for me. And, and, but I don't want to live that way. The way I want to live is that the best fight should live on the front burner, whatever that may end up being, including kickboxing or whatever. Like

I want the best fights to be on the front burner for me personally i'm not telling anyone else to live that way and then after the canelo fight was over when he delivered dude he had that crowd eating out of his fucking palm man you had to be there it was unbelievable the support this guy has and then he delivers the way he did man that was the first time in a long time i was like dude that i felt much better watching the boxing fight than the ufc fight which i'm not making a claim, BC, that the boxing fight was better or that you need to agree. I'm not saying any of that. I'm just saying I finally got that feeling about boxing

that I used to have a little bit more regularly. And to your point, Lopez versus Davis in 2022, I don't know how you couldn't feel that way about that fight. Anytime you could get a fight, which we get all the time in UFC. Thank you very much. In boxing where they're actually younger than older. Like we always get them when they're either too old or just a little bit past prime. Imagine if you got a super fight a little early and you just had no idea what it's going to look like.

That's just the dream, Luke. All right. We got to move these a little bit quicker because I got shit to do. Yeah. You probably have to take one. First of all, it's going to look like. That's just the dream, Luke. All right, we got to move these a little bit quicker because I got shit to do. Yeah, you probably have to take one. First of all, you probably have to take one. Oh my God, dude, today it's been unbelievable. I mean, you just can't imagine.

Please, let's break it down. Like Niagara Falls. If you had to cook a meal for Gordon Ramsey. It's my turn. I go now. Sorry, sorry, Luke. Here we go, here we go. Ready?

If you, Brian Campbell, had to cook a meal for Gordon Ramsey withoutay without getting roasted which by the way i'm not sure if that's possible but still what would you try cooking for him so the spirit of this question is what would be your best meal that you could put right whether it's what is the one you can execute the best man i'm uh this this really makes me look very sad and pathetic so i can execute i can I can turn meal. You know when I'm at my best? When my wife, which rarely happens, but when she goes away for a full week to a work thing or whatever, and I have to feed the kids,

you know, I go for it. And I come through. I can follow a recipe. I've had disastrous endings. I've had some good ones, but I don't cook enough to have even established like a couple go-tos. So that shows you how little I cook.

I do make a mean baked bean casserole luke but gordon would shit all over that you know yeah uh you would probably because you'd be open i mean how many cans do you open up to make that that casserole a lot yeah you're gonna get murdered for that because you're eating processed foods um yeah so i'm pretty awful i don't even honestly dude i'm not saying that like the way I make it is like super good. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying like, oh, you'd come to my house. This is the best you'd ever have.

Not my argument. But the question says, without getting roasted, what they didn't ask for you was to get like super high praise. Oh, my God, this is the best ever. Just, all right, I'm not going to kill you for it. How about a steak? I can cook a steak pretty well. Like, I'm not like the best you've ever had. I can roast it over open flame. I know how to season it. How about a steak? I can cook a steak pretty well. I'm not the best you've ever had. I can roast it over open flame. I know how to season it. I know what kind of beef to look for,

what kind of cuts. I've done it a lot. I've got pretty good experience with it. I can do it with a flat iron skillet in the oven for filet mignon. I can do it out on the open grill too. I'm pretty good at it. Yeah, I think I could do it without getting murdered. I don't think he'd eat the steak and be like wow this is like salt bae you should salt it like this from now on i don't think he would do that but he might he might be like all right you fucking stupid american bloke i won't kill you for it i feel like i can get by on that all right all right that's fair luke uh keeping the countdown rolling if you could know i look god i love this question luke if you could know the absolute and total truth about one question, what would it be? Wow. Luke. Wow. Would you waste it on something petty? Cause it's been eating at you or would you go for something, you know,

that, that proves our existence and our meaning in life? What would you do i don't know um that's a really great question jesus um it'd be fun to burn it on something stupid like who shot kennedy you know yeah but it's funny you said right now right now on my tv right there i have paused uh do you see showtime just came out with that new oliver stone uh jfk uh not the movie which did, but JFK documentary, which which looks at the files that were unearthed in recent years, like the ones that were declassified for years. And it puts together all the the lies and all that. It's very interesting, Luke. I would use mine probably on 9-11, to be fair. I would want the absolute truth on 9-11.

Just just straight up everything. Who knew what? One million percent. Give me the truth. That's what I would want the absolute truth on 9-11. Just straight up everything. Who knew what? One million percent. Give me the truth. That's what I would do. I would even want that more than I would want what happens to us after we die. Because I'm a little bit more content with my belief of that. So I would want to prove, basically just prove to you, Luke, that I'm not crazy by getting the 9-11 truth.

So that's one i guess the one i would ask because you could get a lot of other answers from this would be um what is the purpose of life right because if the purpose were to serve some kind of higher power and whoever was able to answer this question could tell you with unequivocal truth that that was in fact the the way in which you live life that would change change a lot for me, right? Yes. And you would know several things now all at once and how to orient your life. Like it kind of solves a lot for you versus, you know. I feel like I already know that, Luke.

I feel like I already have that answer, okay? To love and be loved and, you know. Right, you have an answer. Whether or not it is truthful is a different question, but you do have an answer. My number two would be the Earth's role in the larger solar system and what's really out there. And, you know, if we are the dominant species or not, that is cool.

And number three would be, you know, did Houston Alexander accept money to allow Kimbo to slam him all over the octagon that time, right? And not throw any punches. Or did Stipe tap? We could ask that question as well. That's a fair one, yes. All right, BC, number five. What is the most ridiculous thing someone has tricked you into doing or believing so i wish i had some you know teen hijink story or you know drunken story of somebody playing a elaborate prank and i fell for it but you know

what what if somebody said like what's your top three most embarrassed you've ever been in your life luke spoiler alert if anyone has their children and if they're young listening right now regarding the holidays and that large fat man. OK, and three, two, one. Luke, when I was a child, I believed everything my parents said, because I will say this about my dad. You know, like anyone else, he's got good and bad qualities, but he's the most honest person I've ever met to a fall. Just, just the integrity of his honesty is unshakable. I'm not at that level. I aspire to be in a lot of ways.

So when they told me Santa Claus was real, despite everyone at school saying, no, my sister saying, no, um, um they're you know most kids look when did you find out the truth on that what grade not entirely sure but pretty early like some of my first memories are like oh i understand what christmas is about like i don't have a whole lot of memories of christmas as like santa being involved so i mean i purposely because of this story and how you know wounded i am told my kids very early and most people tell me oh i was five or six or seven luke i held the belief through fifth grade so luke um it's because i would go back to the well that my parents would be like look dude that is unbelievable you went into class being like yo fuck you motherfuckers

santa is the shit that's the thing so little by little you'd hear people going dude come on wake up it's not real and then i'd go home my parents were like nope it is it is i remember specifically in fifth grade going to them being like it's down to me and one other person in my class uh rubina veloso shout out i don't know where she is today me rubina and i were the only two that still held on luke and people were like making fun of me and clowning me in fifth grade and telling me blah blah and i went home that day so upset and i'm like mom and dad i stood in front of them and like defended it to the grave and was like no no, you guys are wrong. You don't understand. My parents said so.

And they wouldn't lie to me. And then Luke, they were like, oh no, you did that. They were like, okay, maybe we should tell you now. You know, we were lying. Luke, I didn't just defend it like once or twice. I defended it for like multiple years and uh finding out your whole world uh you know had been a lie and uh you had been a liar bro you were like malcolm x up in there we didn't land on plymouth rock plymouth rock landed on us yes um i was like the people who uh who went

you know we're all the way to the death saying no to the vaccine and i mean look it's it's not good it's not good so that's the most that's a bad one i mean i've had some super embarrassing ones tricked um oh i got one i got it okay i mean there's i could pick several i mean lord knows my life has been a series of just punctuated embarrassing moments strung together and being yeah yeah uh one was when i just got assigned to my first Marine Corps unit. It was actually out of Richmond. It was the one I shouted out because I was with them my entire time.

Hotel Battery 314, 4th Mardiv. And so I checked into the unit, and, you know, you meet the INI captain, and then they send you to your particular squad for whatever your job is. And I was working. I made a lap move eventually over to the hill where I would do call for fire missions. But started out as a field radio operator. And so I had to go to the comm section. And I remember I went to the comm section and got checked in, got introduced, the whole nine yards.

And they were like, hey, Thomas. I had no rank at this point. I think I was like not even, I think I was a private, like not even private first class, like nothing. And they were like, yo, Thomas, we got to go install these Syngar radios. Go get the keys to the Hummer. And I'm like, well, where are they?

And they're like, go to the motor pool. So I go down to the motor pool and I'm like, okay, I'm from comms. You know, I need the keys to the Humvee, you know, the Hummer. And they're like, oh, right, right, right. Head down to the motor pool and I'm like, okay, I'm from comms. You know, I need the, I need the keys to the Humvee, you know, the Hummer. And they're like, oh, right, right, right. Head down to the gun line. They got the keys. I'm like, why would the fucking keys be at the gun line? But okay.

So I go down to the gun line and I go to the gun line, you know, platoon sergeant, whatever. I'm like, okay, I need the keys to the Humvee. And they're like, oh, right, right. Go check in, um, go check in supply. Dude, this fucking shit went on for like four days. I'm like, dude, where are the motherfucking keys to the motherfucking Humvee? This is what in the fuck? Dude, I've been to the cook.

I've been to the fucking sick bay. I mean, you couldn't believe the shit they had me doing. Climbing up on roofs and shit. I was like, where are the motherfucking shit? Are the motherfucking keys to the Humveee here's what they don't tell you military humvees don't even need keys you just flick a fucking switch like they don't exist so they had me chasing this shit for four days asking everyone who mattered at any place any job so basically they had the idea like oh here comes fucking stupid tie stupid thomas nice to meet you

great job now i've identified you as the fucking idiot from com who went around and spent four days asking everyone for keys to a vehicle that doesn't even need fucking keys oh that's great that's great they'd be like yeah go down the street there's a guy named jody when he's done sleeping with your family members he'll uh he'll pull it out of his groin joe just got your keys am i right all right all right uh luke we will keep the countdown rolling here uh there's a question for me and you let's start with you oh no start with me uh bc you must i must pick four x nba players who have a minimum of five years out of the league to fill out my men's league team who am I picking and why? Dude, I've got two for you that you must pick.

You think the spirit of this question is like so I could play with my favorite ex-players or that so I could beat up all the guys in my old guy league? I think to make the funnest team. All right. Oh, to win a championship. I'm going to pick KG. KG, he's in still in incredible shape

and he'll be so... Because I am the KG of my weekly old guy league. It's it's forget. It's still real to me. Damn it. That's my NBA finals when I show up there each week, that's my battlefield, Luke. I've got to push people to near punch throwing because in between those lines is, is the only place on earth where I'm allowed to fight and scratch and claw. So I want to KG next to me.

You're going to need a dead-eye shooter. So why don't you give me like Mark Price? Remember him, the old Cavs point guard? He's probably in his late 50s now. I guarantee you he's playing some pickup league in suburban Ohio and just raining down. Bro, there's two names you have to pick. Have to pick.

Who should I pick? Number one, Agent Zero, Gilbert Arenas. Okay? You've got to pick Gilbert Arenas. You know why that's awesome? Okay? You know why that's awesome? When I play every week in my Elgire League, you know what shoes I wear?

The 2005 Agent Zero made specially for the New Orleans NBA All-Star Game shoes that Adidas made that have, like, the the New Orleans you know, what's that flower? The fleur? The fleur de lis. Yeah, it has that all over them and it says on the back zero with a line through it. Dude, I wear those every single time. I love me some Agent Zero on that pickup. He'd be talking so much trash. Look, when he would do those

walk-off three-pointers and turn his back, that's like Al Bundy rolling that strike and turning around and going before it even hits. Also, bro, he'll just bring, he'll just bring guns in the gym bag to the,

to the court. Like y'all want to talk shit. He's got Gilbert strapped. So fuck y'all. And dude, Jason Williams, remember, remember Jason Williams?

Was that his name? Right. The guy that shot his limo driver. No. Who was, okay. So my nineties knowledge is now who was the white guy who went to school with okay that's white chocolate jason williams from florida i was

thinking of former nets nba all-star yeah i'm talking i'm talking the guy went to school with randy moss who could like no look the shit out to be confused with jay williams who i once played basketball against it okay but jason williams is playing as it today, like in real life, plays in pickup leagues. So like he's kind of like doing that life already. Dude, he and Gilbert Arenas and they would pass the ball to you. They get you wide open. Okay, that's my backcourt. Me, KG, Mark Price, and I'd take Birdman.

Remember Chris Anderson with the wild ass hair and the tats? I met him. Oh, you did? What was the line? Did you guys do Ecstasy together or anything? No, no, no. It was at an MMA event. Okay. Okay. All right. Cool. That's it.

The other part was, Luke, you are allowed to pick two people to work out with from any time. Who are you working out with and what part of the body on that day? All right. So this is an easy one, I think. First would be Arnold Schwarzenegger. No problem. And we're going to work out chest because Arnold Schwarzenegger has perhaps and we're gonna work out chest because arnold schwarzenegger has perhaps the most impressive pectorals uh genetically and then even from a guy who was you know peaked in the 70s most impressive chest since anna nicole smith if you're yes i mean really just huge arnold schwarzenegger has unbelievable titties let's just call it and then um you know he's all banged up now well of course i was gonna say ronnie coleman because

he's like the other sort of king of bodybuilding like there's a mount rushmore of bodybuilding it doesn't exist without schwarzenegger and ronnie coleman obviously would need some other ones on there but those two are be foundational easiest one to call ever um but you know he's all banged up now what about like working out with one of like the original strong man from like the 19th century dudes who were fucking yoked in like 1807 and shit with circus dumbbells that doesn't interest me at all no right um so i then to keep i mean eugene sandow who they the sandow folks who don't know that the sandow trophy is what they hand out to the winner of Mr. Olympia, the greatest bodybuilding competition in the world. It's the one Schwarzenegger made famous.

It's the one Coleman dominated. So, I'd say, okay, my answers will be Chess with Schwarzenegger, back with Ronnie Coleman, okay? And then people want me to say legs there. I'm not going to say legs there. And then I would say overhead press with Eugene Sandow. How about that? As an honorable mention. I don't mean this as a joke.

Would you prefer that Arnold was the one that shot you up in the ass? Like, would that be an honor to you? It would be a great honor to do anabolic steroids with Arnold Schwarzenegger in the seventies. Yeah. Can I have the wind draw please in the stanazol yes whatever whatever horse you know everyone makes fun of people for taking

ivermectin for horse pace let me tell you something if they're taking horse steroids and schwarzenegger says thumbs up this guy's taking it yeah you're damn right by the way luke if you ever you do know max bretos yes he has a tremendous arnold schwarzenegger story that he uh witnessed that he does the voices for you need to add just say straight up be like vc's like tell me the arnold schwarzenegger story and then also be like tell me the jean-claude van damme story as well and it will blow your mind luke actually you know what we should do it if he's willing to tell both stories on camera i bet you that'd probably be our highest watched MK club. Yeah, I actually like the idea.

Like, we'll just talk to people that we know who have amazing stories of celebrity encounters. Todd Grisham has an insane story of working out with Vince McMahon. I'd love to get that on there as well. Yes. All right. Number seven for UBC. If you could, this is what it says.

If you could witness any event, past, present, or future, what would it be? I guess they mean literally anything like the fall of the Berlin wall or, you know, whatever. It's kind of a dumb question. I, you know, since we, we, we all often think through a, you know, a sports lens throughout based on our professions. I w I was thinking more of like, you know, kind of what, what we asked you in the wheel of death with the, with the donks,

you know, what fight would you be ringside for? And, you know, I could easily say, knowing what I know now on the theatrics, imagine being at the Mandalay Bay for Corrales Castillo one. I mean, it just going through that emotion. I would pick in team sports. I'd pick game six of the 86 world series Mets Red Sox, just to be in the euphoria of that, because let's not forget they got down, you know, Mets got down to their final strike of that series multiple times in the extra innings there and rallied back. And even though they didn't even win the series with that game to be, I mean, Luke, the times that I, in 2000, I told you in the past that I went to both Mets clinching games to beat the Giants and then to beat the Cardinals to go to the subway series and just the euphoria in those games. And they didn't have, you know,

exciting endings. They were just regular clinching wins. Dude, that, that was, that wasn't, that was a drug, man. That was something next level. Could you imagine being in the crowd for your favorite teams? You know, most, most insane comeback win. I mean, that's good. That, that's probably what I would pick. I mean, the problem with trying to do it like with history, Luke is it's all bad stuff, right? It's like, well, could I be standing right there when Jack Ruby shot shot Oswald? I mean, that'd be pretty cool. Right. It could be on camera. I mean,

I don't know what is the pick here. I mean, could I watch Jonah Vark burn at the stake mean i don't know what is the pick here i mean could i watch jonah vark burn at the stake i don't know luke what you know watch the uh the uh the the the what do you where we go with this luke i don't like also like any event could i go back and watch my eighth birthday or something you know is that on the table as well can luke go back and watch his own conceivement I'm sure yeah no fuck that I'd rather just die all together I I've kind of answered this one already but any other thing I would want to see would be oh when my ancestors eliminated the dinosaurs if I could see that play out in front of me Luke hey my daughter's crying can you hear it sounds like uh oh she does sound like is she feeling better Luke is feeling better, but now she doesn't want to go to sleep and it's late.

She usually is already net by now. So now she's cranky. So it's great. It's the weekend. Whatever. Yeah. You're going to do. OK.

And I can't go in there and help. Oh, they said future. If you could witness any future event, Luke, the first female president getting sworn in. Luke, would you be there with with with some go back to the kitchen signs? Is that what you're into with me, Luke? It's not my take. That's certainly. This question is dumb.

So I'm going to pass on. Let's go to the next one. Luke, what is the story of the last time you were kicked out of a public place? It's actually a good question. Man, I got to tell you, from like 2002 to 2010, maybe. No, not that far. 2002 to 2007 or eight. Dude, I got thrown out of half the bars in DC. I mean, it's my life was shambles. What a disaster. So and New York. What were you largely thrown out for? Being too drunk? Too drunk, being rowdy, sometimes fighting, just being a complete nuisance. And also, I've told you this story,

but that one time I got thrown out of a bunch of places with my Marine friend who came back from Iraq and was drunk, and then we went to the strip club, and he just was an animal. I've had... Okay, so the last time well technically the last time i don't know if i didn't feel like i deserved to get thrown out but i did get thrown out i think i want to say the last time was like 2009 and i went to this bar uh over on m street and i'm in like 19th next to la bucaria like uh this is like eatery from uh

it's the chef and i didn't go there it was like this bar next to it and iaria, this eatery from this chef. I didn't go there. It was this bar next to it. I don't know if that bar still exists, but we got our drinks inside and went outside. The weather was nice. I don't remember exactly what time of year it was, but the weather was nice.

I remember there was this rando, shitty CVS balloon, like a heart-shaped Mickey thing, barely tied to one of the um like defense posts on the outside of the bar and i literally thought it was like trash i mean i didn't i didn't know it was anything so i i grabbed it and i just yanked it off and let it go like i didn't you know i was just fucking around like i didn't, you know, I was just fucking around. Like I didn't mean anything by it. And the bouncer got like right in my face and was like, that's it, buddy. You're gone. And I'm like, and I literally didn't even understand what the fuck he was talking about. I'm like, for what?

He's like, you're fucking with our property. The balloon was ours. I'm like, dude, we're going to, you're going to throw, I'm a paying guy, dude. I will be here and spend money here. Trust me. Like you're going to throw me out for that shit. He's like, get your shit and go. And I'm a paying guy. Dude, I will be here and spend money here. Trust me. Like you're going to throw me out for that shit. He's like, get your shit and go. And I'm like, okay.

All right. You know, went, got my ID inside the bar. And I mean, I'm not going to fight the guy over, but I was just like, you're a fucking dumb ass dude, you know, but I guess you can do what you want. I've been thrown out of three different bars for throwing up right out in like the middle of them. Um, I told you that story of getting thrown out of the bar at seaton hall called the hall in 1999 where i drank 16 vodka and something else and i ended up doing the dx chop on my back while grinding in the middle

of the dance floor with all a crowd of people around me and the security guards were like you cannot do that here and they threw me out um i got thrown out of shea stadium in 2001 luke where we talked about like doing thing putting yourself in unnecessary danger for no reason when you're younger in 2001 i went to cut i was a reporter for a newspaper i went to cover a baseball game in stanford connecticut it rained as i pulled up they canceled the game and and i was like you know what the mets are playing tonight why don't i just drive to Shea Stadium? Because I saw that the weather was going to clear up soon. On the drive to Shea Stadium solo, I bought a six-pack of Bud and drank the whole thing. And then when I got there, Luke, I just started like, I remember I spent $100 in food that night,

food and drink on myself, $100 in one crappy regular season game. This is what it's like when you move out And you live alone And when I finally was like Sitting all over the stadium and getting thrown out of seats I finally went up to the corner Of the left field bleachers At the old Chase Stadium that overlooks the bullpen Down below, you remember Jose Mesa

The old closer, he was playing for the Phillies then He had the handlebar mustache and whatever I just let out like a 15 minute straight assault when he was warming up of like Jose Mesa your mom blah blah ffff just like straight up just killing him and each pitch he turns around he looks up and he's like give me the middle finger and he's giving me the blowjob sign and finally I just let out like 75 consecutive foul words in a row about his mother and he was like fuck you and he reached he he tells the like the little guy next to him to go go get the security card within luke

like five minutes they must have called security comes running they grabbed me up in the seats up in the upper deck and they're like you're out of here and i remember i pulled out my ticket i'm like i don't care i got better seats than than these anyway. And they didn't throw me out of the stadium, just out of that section. Yeah, those were good times. And I'm trying to think. I've probably got something more embarrassing than that. Yeah, I wasn't always a good person. I mean, I've told you the story that's more embarrassing than mine,

but I just don't want to repeat it here if I don't have to. Oh, I know. New Year's Eve, Luke, of 2001. We went out in South Norwalk, Connecticut, went back to the hotel that we had all got. I passed out on the bed. Fire alarm goes off. OK, luckily, that would that would have probably been the night I choked on my own vomit and died like Bon Scott and Mama Cass. But luckily, the fire alarm's going off and I didn't wake up. So my friends come in because we had multiple rooms.

They kick the door down. They drag me out as they're dragging me out into the center of the front door of the hotel there's fire engines everywhere like somebody pulled the fire alarm or whatever and i threw up all over the walkway to walk it just piles everywhere and this policeman comes over and he goes happy new year and he walks me over and they stand me up next to the uh to the fire engine that's there oh he's trying to nurse me back well then my friends just started walking dude i don't have time for this shit man no one's paying attention to me luke oh did your video freeze i don't know if you're still there i'll'll finish the story. Dude, finish the story. We got to wrap this up in like a handful of minutes, bro. I did not mean to offend you on this holiday, Luke.

So anyway, no one's watching me suddenly, and I noticed this. So you ever see the side of a fire engine? They got all those little compartments and extra doors where they keep like the accent and all this stuff. I just open one up, and I start climbing up into it, Luke, and I'm fitting in sideways, and the police come running over in the clock, and I'm like in sideways and the police come running over and the fireman's like, what the hell are you doing? I go, no, no, no, it's okay. My dad's a fireman.

It's okay. It's totally fine. I know what I'm doing here. And then they removed me out of there and threw me out of the front of the hotel, Luke. So that was probably the best stories I have. Thank you very much. Keep it rolling, Luke.

I'm glad to see you live a different life now. All right. What is the largest animal you think your co-host could fight off and kill? The largest. What do you think? That is an interesting question. When you are hiking in the woods with your wife and daughter or whatever, Luke, and I've had hikes when my kids were small where we have encountered both bears and bobcats.

And luckily, they didn't come running at us. We kind of stayed quiet. And they, they from a distance went the other way but you do ask yourself as a man could i fight that thing off to protect them forget me right to protect them luke if it came down to you and me together in the woods i think you could fight off a deer um anything small even even yeah bobcat bobcat will fuck your shit up but i feel like i could like if like you know life is on the line type shit yeah you could snap the neck or some shit you'd lose your hand but uh luke no chance with a beer though a bear no no that bear is gonna win that 10 times out of 10 easy what's in between a bear and a small crawling animal um not much yeah not much not much i mean maybe we lived in australia there might be like like mid-sized kangaroos you can kind of give like

bus driver uppercuts too you know they've got good form though they're they're you know they can throw combos and stuff yeah but maybe again um you know wow no i wouldn't fuck with wild boars. Fuck that. Nope. What about a homeless man? What about a homeless guy? Is that the hardest prey? All right. Luke, let's keep it going. Both of you create a dream fighter,

picking one fighter to use for each category. Striking defense, chin fight,, IQ wrestling, and BJJ. Luke, who is the striking pick on this ultimate male we are concocting in the lab? A lot of different ways you could go. A lot of different styles. Not necessarily one or two or even five or ten right answers, but I'm going to go Israel Adesanya. Modern striker.

I like what he offers. By the way, defense is kind of built into that. Okay, but just for the offensive striking component, I'll go Adesanya. What about you? You know, Francis Ngannou. Not bad. Pretty good. All right, who's got the best defense?

That's a tougher one. DJ? DJ's got good defense. Who doesn't take a lot of punishment? Honestly, guys like Habib don't take a lot of punishment. Dominic Cruz in his prime? Dominic Cruz in his prime. Anderson Silva in his prime didn't take a ton of abuse. Great point.

Just for those reflexes, you may have to go Silva. Because he can put himself in insanely dangerous spots and not get hit. Yeah, also, you could pick a guy like Floyd if you're going boxing. Oh, absolutely. And by the way, Luke, for anything that you want to debate about Floyd, the greatest thing he had is he is on the short list of the greatest defensive fighters of all time. And by short list, I mean him and Willie Pepp.

That's one thing you really can't debate i mean you know you could say oh he's not as offensively inclined as a sugar ray or sugar ray robinson or whatever but his defense was was something that we'll never see again i mean that was insane how smart i saw this guy doing the seminar on the philly shell and he was saying like what it's about he was actually explaining like how simple it is like the philly shell is not complicated about when a punch from a certain side comes what do you do whether you roll with it or bend or parry or whatever you're you know parry it down and he was saying though like it's simple but the difference is that you have to be a master at slipping you have to be a master at reading what is coming at you and making a judgment call

and that itself takes you know almost decades to get good at right you have to start that at a very young age you have to get really kind of good at it once you've mastered it you can put it together in the philly shell package but he was pointing out that like floyd is like has impeccable reading on what is flying at him. You rarely ever see him get caught clean. It's super, super, super hard to do that. Absolutely. Chin. Who's got the best chin? He could go a lot of ways.

I mean, Roy Nelson took a crap ton of damage and never really... How about Prime Noguera? Yeah. Prime Noguera's chin. I mean, he fought Bob Sapp and got spiked on his head and had a fucked up neck in that fight and still won it. Prime Fedor? Chin? He got rocked by Fujita in his prime.

Dude, Noguera's chin in his prime was like the gold standard. You could say in his prime, BJ Penn's chin was fucking awesome too. Who else had a good chin in his prime? Vanderlei had a pretty good chin in his prime. He ruined that shit. Max Holloway's got a good chin in his prime vanderley had a pretty good chin in his prime and he ruined that shit but max holloway max holloway has a sick chin yeah um fight iq luke you could go i would go without question mayweather in boxing and an mma john jones volkanovski and john jones

are pretty pretty great picks right there right yep they have super high fight iq um and on the women's side we're not thinking of valentina shevchenko has high fight iq absolutely super high fight iq um rosanna munis as well luke yes sir i mean of course amanda as well i mean it just goes without saying but you know um wrestling you got to go habib or you're doing it wrong luke yeah who else though like we had like was really really good and dominant dude john jones in his time i think that has waned over time but certainly in his prime they just it was automatic takedowns were automatic um dc given dc had great takedowns yeah i mean you couldn't go wrong with him either honestly don't forget it was easy

jay penn chuck liddell takedown defense yeah they didn't put it in there but like bj penn in his prime could not be taken down um max holloway has phenomenal takedown defense honestly that was one of the max usman's one of the best wrestlers this sport's ever produced there's no question about it yeah i mean that was the funny thing about max and habib i would rethink it now because i think habib is just too overwhelming a force, even at 155. But I did think that, remember when Max was briefly going to fill in

before Ally Aquin took out the call against Habib and they actually had the presser? It is true. I think, yeah, I do think Habib would have overwhelmed Holloway now, having seen a lot more tape. But even at the time, and I still maintain this, Holloway's takedown defense is very, very good. Even if you can bring his body to the mat,

that you can do anything with it is almost certainly not true, at least against his 145-pound peers. By the way, we forgot Mighty Mouse for Fight IQ. He belongs there as well. Fair enough. Two fights that never happened. I also have a poster for Rockhold versus Whitaker that didn't happen as well.

Wow. Jesus. I'm glad they didn't happen as well wow jesus i want those two together yeah i want the uh the mcgregor rda poster i've got the the key card for the hotel but i don't have the actual poster i'd like yeah and then bjj this one's easy right like it's a demi and maya or it's a hadra well hadra gracie had good like jujitsu jujitsu but for mma purposes oh charles olivera youira. Who are some other greats of the game? All the best have fought, like Andre Galvan,

BJ Penn, Tankino. We're forgetting a modern person. We're just forgetting a... Mackenzie Dern. I mean, Prime Ronda Rousey before the women caught up with her? Not jiu-jitsu per se but yeah like phenomenal

submission grappling but just straight from zero to submission in in six seconds in six seconds yeah quite literally i will say historically you know a lot of what she did is going to be like it'll be overrated not not her pioneering or her stardom but like the fact that she fought too early but even with that said like you could never take away from her the the technique and how quickly she just physically dominated people i mean it was insane it was absolutely insane it's true it's true all right uh that's it for us dude that's it okay that's just a little holiday treat hopefully you enjoyed it get you through it uh you have the energy of two uh pre-euthanized lobotomized zeros in this podcast.

We'll point that out. This is the last time they made us do one of these, and I just mailed the whole thing in, Luke. You know BC and Luke will be back with a bang for December. We got big fights. It should be fun. Gervonta Davis has a pay-per-view. Jake Paul's back.

The UFC card on December 11th is batshit awesome so look this is your favorite show for a reason because we bring it alright so continue to send your shit to morningcombat at gmail.com like subscribe Luke what's our next goal we're at 101k

what do you want to get to the next thing I have to do today after the end of this podcast which is like right now that's your next goal for subscribers okay great uh good talking to you luke we're out of here that's it you know