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You know, he's certainly very, very, very good.
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Hey, it's Reggie J. Welcome. It's Reggie J. Oh, wow. We're squirmish today.
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It is. Luke Nosita, excuse me, Luke Thomas Nocita of the main card minute. How are you,
I'm doing great guys. I'm full from all the Thanksgiving food. I'm hung over probably. And most
importantly, we got the prop quiz championship out, B.C. versus Jose Young's dropping right after
this episode today. So make sure you tune into that. It is a banger. I'm assuming we haven't recorded
it yet. Did I win, Luke? Probably, right? I'm going to assume you won. Did I win?
if you didn't you're dead to me
wow I'm not the favorite
I'm not the betting favorite against youngs you never have been
but here you are you know what I'm saying
what a ride what a journey I just have to close my door
from Reggie Luke why don't you tell people some nice holiday
greetings all right um
my daughter made me a card you all want to see the car
it's a castle
oh that's great that's great that's a castle
I don't know why it's got a cat face on it for no particular reason, but
He's a big Reggie fan, that's why.
We're not judging based on literalism here.
You know what I'm saying?
There you go.
There you go.
She would love Reggie Jackson, by the way.
Tuki.
My daughter loves cats.
Yeah.
What do they call them in us in Españal?
Gato.
Gotto.
Gotto.
There you go.
Got it got it.
All right.
Let's get into the fun here.
We put out the call to you.
We're going to alternate written questions, video questions.
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optional he'll be here sometimes here we go first question of the black friday from our friend
Colin, he says, I have a question about, quote, wins aging well.
Do you think that there should be a limit on how far back we consider a win, a good
win?
For example, people say Connor McGregor has a win over Max Holloway, but the Max that
fought Connor fought, the Max that fought Connor and the Max that fought Justin Gaichie are
clearly not the same person.
I feel like after a period of time, it becomes.
totally disingenuous to say that wins are aging well.
Luke Thomas, this can, you can also flip this date around when a fighter will be an aging
name well past their prime, and you may say, well, 10 years from now, people may not remember
that they beat this person well past their prime.
What do you think about the idea of a, a, what's that word of limits?
Upper bound limits?
No, like if I, you know, Luke, if you touch someone.
but like eight years past they can't arrest you to limitations yeah what's the statute of limitations
on both yeah on both uh me i am acting rapy in the workplace but no one snitches on me what do they call
that you can answer about essay or about uh mama look your choice um i mean i think there's actually
a lot to this question it's actually pretty good the answer is quite obviously there is there are
there are limits to how well a win ages um but it can still retain some
interesting value, even if it doesn't retain the same value. So let me give you
an example of BC. Marie Smith beating Mark Coleman. This is not a thing that's relevant
to the current state of the heavyweight division. And it doesn't rank as one of the most
meaningful in terms of a ranking position. I mean, it was in terms of the championship. But
what I mean to say is there are ways in which this is not a win that holds up as like the
division's best, but it holds critical importance because it was the first time that we
really saw in high level MMA, particularly in the heavyweight division, someone from a
kickboxing background to feed a wrestler. That was like at the time that it had not really
happened hardly at all, if at all, and certainly not to Mark Coleman in that way. And so that was a
really big deal. It has historical relevance or even, you know, some of Hoyce Gracie's wins that may
not look like it means anything. And it's not a win that holds up as like a value for today.
But at the time in which he did it, and for the reasons why it was important then, we should
still not lose sight of that. And these are not necessarily exactly what the guy is asking, but
these are kind of all related in terms of like a win you know let's use the example that he did
where people who are still kind of in the fight game when you have connor and max clearly the
significance of that win wanes over time but i don't think it's just time itself like the passage
of it that makes it that way it's that those guys became something very different visibly
and measurably over the course of their career so it still means something to me that
McGregor beat a very green Max Holloway, but at the time in which they met where their
careers intersected, it gives you some indication of just kind of the speed at which
Connor McGregor was moving up the food chain. I think at the same time, though, BC, would that go
the way, if they fought today, how would that go? I think most of us would probably pick Max. So,
yes, clearly there is an expiration series of ways in which it diminishes absolutely. The reverse, by
the way BC can also be true wins can age better over time that are not appreciated in the
moment in which they happen i think that's also a thing that can happen but of course these things
are all you know they can it's it's food in the fridge or the freezer it can hold for a good long
while but like anything there's limits to this kind of stuff i mean you couldn't if you were
running off the achievements of conne mcgregor and so somebody said you know explain to me why he's a
hall of fame or one of the all-time greats you wouldn't lead with the holloway win but it needs to be
included because it happened and that gentleman he fought and defeated turned out to be a legend regardless
i wonder if like could you even discount a win like amanda newness is the goat as we record this right
now and you're not going to take that away from her for one fight but what does that ronda rousey win
really mean in hindsight knowing how compromised honda housey was in that one that she was done done
yeah i mean i mean that was kind of obvious like i took that i mean to me
she sent a broken person at that time.
I don't want to besmirch her current state.
I think she's done a lot of healing.
But at that time, you know, kind of a broken person.
She sent her, sent her packing from the sport.
I mean, that's, that was the significance was the balance of power shifting.
Not like, oh, did she fight the toughest MMA test, you know?
That's fair.
I just don't like when you, when if a fighter, and we try to highlight this when we look back on people's resumes, maybe there's a fighter that didn't
become what they could have, but at the time that they fought somebody, they were absolutely
dangerous and legit, and that needs to be remembered. You know what I'm saying? Yes, yes. I mean,
this is also to the point about like, again, going back to the one that this person used, this Connor
and Holloway comparison, this is why rematches are meaningful. And I don't just mean, oh, there was a
fight, it was close to have an immediate rematch. Those have a certain kind of importance to,
you know, like Shogun versus Machita or something. But I don't mean it in that way. I
I mean, like, years later, BC, these two meet again.
And then you get sometimes, you see it in boxing a million times too, I'm sure,
where you get a different result and it's like, right, people change over the course of their career.
So for one person, let's say, to dominate both, that would be a big deal or for them to be, you know, mismatched results.
Like Tito Ortiz's win over Chuck Lidl under the Golden Boy MMA banner, not really holding up before.
Right, right.
And that's another one where it's like, did you beat a great name?
Sure, sure.
But it doesn't mean the same thing as when you tried to fight him or done.
knock him, rather, and fought him at UFC 47.
What was UFC 47 called?
Here's why my brain is just absolute trash.
Can't remember a single apex card.
Remember how they used to have names like sudden impact and dick and balls?
It was, it was, it's on.
It's on.
It's on. Now it's off. It's off.
Let's go to our first video question.
Sent in by a fella named Marcus.
Yo, Luke, Beastie, and Long Island, Luke.
We never know how if I will actually play out.
However, most fans and analysts will pick a legend to beat another fighter in any hypothetical matchup, even though we know that that won't always happen.
Israel Adasanya lost Deshaun Strickland and nobody, for the most part, predicted that.
What fighter would give a legend the hardest fight and actually be able to beat them, even though no one would predict that?
Armand v. Habib, Yaya Rodriguez, versus Aldo, Stipei versus Fedor,
I'm asking you to pick what fighter could win a matchup against a legend that nobody would expect them to beat.
Enjoy the thought experiment.
I like this thought experiment, Luke.
It's sort of sometimes like the evolution of the sport.
We do this a lot in heavyweight boxing, where we're like, you know, could today's guys shine the shoes of the resume and legend of Joe Lewis and Rocky Marciano?
Probably not.
But what happens if you put 5'10 Rocky Marciano in the ring?
with 6'9 Tyson Fury or even 6'7 Deonti Wilder.
What happens, Luke, right?
Like, that changes the equation,
although that's not necessarily what this gentleman,
and thank you, Marcus, for the question is asking.
Do you think there are fighters that we maybe consider regular
or, you know, one-time champions that you're like,
but in history, they would have mop the floor.
I mean, maybe MMA's different because heavyweight boxing ages in reverse,
almost like Benjamin Button, except for,
the dawn of the super heavyweights
that changes the equation. But MMA
has aged in a normal pattern
where every generation the skills
get added so aggressively that it's like
could the first 10
heavyweight champions beat any heavyweight today?
Well, maybe heavyweight's a bad example because
heavyweight sucks, Luke. But I guess
you get... I've got one for you. I've got one.
And the reason why I can say this is because I've thought
a lot about this. It is hard
to appreciate this now. And if you
came to the sport relatively recently,
you're just never going to
feel this way about him, but I'm trying to explain to people when BJ Penn was on top of the
sport and that specific meaning is when he was UFC lightweight champion because he had high
moments in a bunch of other places for different reasons. But to me, that was the very best
version. You have to understand what that meant. And what that meant was he had, even Freddie Roach
talked about it. He had the most powerful best jab in the sport, or at least one of them. He had,
remember, he was the first American to win the world championships in Jiu-Jitsu in the Black Belt
division, which he did, you know, after four years, like an insane, just a, they remember he was
called the prodigy. That was the absolute best term for him. He was heavy-handed. He was
absolutely unafraid of contact. And over time, his takedown defense was considered the gold
standard in the sport. Like, he had, for a moment in time, the very best takedown defense. And the reason
why I say all this is because at that moment, he also fought George St. Pierre in a rematch in a championship
camp fight up at 170 he had fought st pierre previously in a three rounder when a USA versus canada
UFC card and uh in the three rounder pen fucked him up early but kind of faded down the stretch
and so the whole idea that's this rematch was yes pen was going up to 70 but a he'd already
been a champion up at 70 and b look at him now like he has cleaned up all the things that had kind
of plagued him even for somebody so insanely talented in the past oh and by the way he had a rock chin
like you just couldn't be hurt so like dude b j pen and his very best was to me the closest i've
ever seen a human to be a superhero like it was it's just absurd to you really understand how
good he was so i all of that is to say he did get outrestled ultimately by st pierre not like
aggressively so but convincingly so now it makes me wonder bc it can be done but obviously
saint pierre was a the best welterweight of all time and obviously a big 170 year how
would BJ Penn in his absolute prime versus Habib go? What would that look like? How long could he fight
that off in a 25 minute round? You know? That's a fair question. I mean, you could sometimes this
question isn't about eras and the changing of abilities. It could just be about this matchup styles.
Does somebody have a dot like Hamzat Chumayev right now as the middleweight champion? Is that a really
bad matchup for Anderson Silva, the greatest middleweight champion of all time? Luke, I'm asking you.
Who against Silva?
Hamzaa Chamaio.
Oh, Hamza.
It's probably a bad matchup.
I saw someone talking about this.
Who was it?
Oh, God.
I forget who I saw this.
They were making the argument, and there's, it's not,
there's ways to argue around this,
but it's worth least thinking about,
are today's, the current crop of UFC champions right now,
take a snapshot.
Is this the best, most talented crop of UFC champions of all time,
an overall ability?
And you can make the argument
that it is. You can absolutely look at the situation and say, these are, have they done as much
as Anderson Silva? Well, no. I mean, he did a lot. But head to head, what would that look like?
I mean, how would you not pick Chamaev? He can wrestle and he's got good grappling defense and
submission defense in ways that Anderson Silva has just never even seen before. So yeah, yeah,
take that seriously. I mean, the constant evolving of the game moving further away from the specialist era,
maybe a guy like GSP was able to dominate so much because he was one of the first,
if not the first, just completely well-rounded, prototype mixed martial artists.
But now that's your baseline, if you want to be great in many instances,
except for head movement and striking defense.
Luke, that's yet to catch up with the elite across the board.
But, I mean, we're starting to get to the point where I'm going to favor Islam Mahachav against
anybody that can make weight against him in history.
We're starting to get to that point.
I don't think that's crazy.
I don't.
Just a case that the fact that Islam is one of the greats and is joining that now, or if the sport has evolved so much, him being the point of proving that, that, yeah, it's an interesting question.
Thank you for it, Marcus.
Let's keep on going down the line.
We're going to hear now from a fellow called Marco.
He says, hey, Luke in BC, got a question for your mailbag.
Which weight class do you think has evolved the most?
Wow, these questions are all in sync here, Luke.
which weight class do you think has evolved the most over the last decade in terms of skill
and overall talent and what caused that division to level up faster than the others for context
when you look at things today 135 is packed with fast well-rounded high IQ fighters
145 has gotten way more technical with cleaner striking and movement 155 mixes both striking
and grappling at a really high level 170 is deeper and more complete than at a
used to be. Seeing how these divisions look now, I'm curious, which one you think made the biggest
leap compared to a decade ago. Appreciate you both. Love the show. I can tell you, the women's
divisions have done the most degrading or, you know, decomposition. I'm not sure what the word
would be. Well, straw weight has decomposed, but the other, I mean, this is the best time flyweight was
ever by far. Yeah, flyway. Yeah, flyway, you're right. But, Bantamweight. Bantamweight.
No. Bantamway is as buns.
That's a good point. I think
like the only male divisions that have probably
gotten worse in some
ways due to a lack of talent
are light heavyweight and heavyweight. Yeah,
light heavyweight and heavy weight are just gigantic
declines.
135 has gotten a lot better.
125 has gotten
I mean, he got fucked up for a while
but I think it's at this point reconstituted
overall as better.
You know, I think all the divisions have improved.
So we're talking about like them, not all divisions, I'm sorry.
Other than the ones we've mentioned, I think the rest have improved either modestly or more.
But I would say the biggest leap for me would probably be 25 or 35.
Yeah, I'll give you that.
I'll give you that.
And I think all the divisions sort of run into each other as the answer to this question of like they're all evolving at rapid pace.
What makes that happen?
The same thing people are complaining about, in my opinion, about Islam and Chamaev's wrestling right now.
It's one person.
It was out of Sanya with striking a middleweight.
It's one person taking one element of the game and raising it up that it forces everybody else to play catch up in that one area.
And then you have evolution, Luke, you know?
It's evolution, baby, right?
Evolution, baby.
Yeah, there you.
Thank you very much for that.
We have a fellow known as Danger Mouse, a longtime friend of the show from the UK.
He's part of the Just Bleed Radio Boys.
And Luke, you know, we recovered from that falling out ahead of the London trip.
I really don't remember what happened.
but I do love me some Danger Mouse.
Is he going to show his face? Let's see.
Hey, up your pair of washbleeders.
Danger Mouse here from Just Bleed Radio,
where we're still waiting for that interview, Bissay.
At this rate, we might have to offer your shot to Luke.
You up for it, Luke?
Now, I really want to whack a Dakota Ditch of a question,
but I couldn't think of a good one.
So my question is, there are now 10 male double champs.
Randy Couture, BJ Penn,
George St. Pierre, Daniel Cormier,
Connor McGregor Henry Sehudo
John Jones
Alex Pereira
Ilya and of course most recently
Islam Makachev
Put them in order
Worst to best
Least Impressive to Most Impressive
However you really want to word it
I don't mind
Cheers guys
Hopefully talk to you in person soon
Shout out to all the donks in the chat room
I do owe
Just Bleed Radio that appearance
I got to get that done
I'll do it
Yeah Danger Mouse thank you for the time put in to creating
that video. This is a hard question. And the question. I mean, look, how do you define how you're
going to define this? Yeah, go ahead. Is it like, who was more impressive in the two weight classes
they toppled? I know, I have a way, I have a way to, yes. I mean, here's the, someone brought
this up to me. It's like, hey, didn't JDM have like an insanely difficult first title defense?
You got to fight the best guy in the goddamn sport. Like, that's not easy. And someone had asked me
in my live chat, like, what's another example of one? And I was like, it wasn't the same as that.
but, for example, JDMs, sorry, Junior Dos Santos, JDS's first title defense after beating
Kane was actually, remember because Kane was really fucked up, was Kane again.
And, but this time it was completely healthy Kane and he got destroyed as a consequence, right?
So, like, what are- I want it dead wrong that.
Didn't JDS defend the belt against Frank Murr first?
He might have.
Okay.
Let's imagine a world where Kaye-Balask.
guess was the first either way you see what i'm saying like evaluate the way in which they
became champ not just by the wind that they got there but who had beaten the very best guys
and and claimed titles in those weight classes by to the extent we had for the first question
whose wins have kind of like held up over time like what did it mean to beat those guys
both at that moment and in a lasting way i mean i would say like for me so hoodos uh one is
going to be a little bit lower on the list um do you downgrade conner only as a result of how
successful he was meaning that he one punched all though we never really got to see what that
fight would it turned into and then he forced eddie off of his wrestling and kind of just
you know snake charmed him yeah i don't think so i think connor's is like going to be a little bit
higher um people are going to hate this but i'll put potons a little bit lower um not at the bottom
but maybe at the bottom half well considering the lack of
MMA experience when he came in?
Yeah, but again, it's who he beat.
How difficult was it to beat the guys that he beat?
Yes, obviously difficult, but we're talking about the very best male champ champs.
Who you got put number one?
Long on look has a great query.
Do we discount Daniel Cormiere because he never beat John Jones for either of those?
Again, it's not about that.
It's who did he beat?
What do you value that at?
Okay.
Then who is the most impressive two division champion based on this criteria?
I mean, one thing you have to consider is the weight that Couture gave up to become heavyweight champion is no bullshit and did it twice, by the way.
He was a champion early in the UFC 30s era, which he eventually lost to Josh Barnett and then came back in the UFC 60s and then off retirement after getting slipped by Chuck Liddell back to back, came out of retirement and beat the fuck out of Tim Sylvia, who is a goof but was a gigantic goof, a true ogre.
I don't know, long on look, why don't you pop in here?
Who are you putting in your top three?
Even though Bisping was a weak champion, GSP was retired for five years, moved up and
wait and won the belt.
I got to put that up high, dude.
What do you think?
I feel like it might be recency bias, but like in today's modern UFC, Islam has to
be like top of the list here.
Just do it in 55 and 170 in the year 2025.
Like, that's kind of fucking wild.
It's up there.
I'm looking at a graphic that's missing a few.
It's an older graphic and it has Amanda Nunes on it.
and I know we're talking men only.
So there's a few I'm blanking on right now.
But, uh,
I mean,
I know it's apples and oranges,
but good Lord.
I mean,
who she defeat.
I mean,
you know,
Misha Tay and Chris Cyborg.
Like that's,
that's pretty,
uh,
but I get it's a different world over there.
Um,
all right,
who's the most impressive male?
You're going to offer maybe Islam?
I mean,
Teporia's got big names,
uh,
in doing that.
And he knocked out in the first round,
Charles Olivera and,
uh,
Alexander Volcanovsky.
I mean, that's up there.
BJ Penn, too.
I mean, BJ Penn beat Matt Hughes.
And then who did he beat?
So he beat a bunch of guys.
Obviously, Jen's Pulver was an early one of those,
Diego Sanchez.
Did he beat Sean Shirk for the Welterweight?
He beat the fuck out of Sean Shirk.
So, I mean, by the way, that's a name that modern fans won't know.
Beating Sean Shirk was a big deal.
Of course, St. Pea.
Yeah, early PED guy, right?
Big time.
I mean, I don't know what the muscle shark really was doing,
but he certainly looked the part um he wasn't eating for taste look i'll tell you that that's right well
so also st pierre's i think up there in that middle ground um yeah i probably put poitons somewhere
in the middle ground i think okay and then towards the bottom so gsp and randy kuder in the top
four right with islam and who else illy
Ilia?
Yeah, maybe.
Because he finished everybody, too.
That's the other part.
I mean, that's not just good at Connor.
Connor finished all done.
Yeah, Conner's up there too.
Yeah, yeah.
I want to take it away from him because the ease at which he won both of those
kind of didn't allow us to see how he would really do against them.
But then again, they had their chance and you knock them out.
So what are you going to do, right?
Yeah.
All right.
I've given it as much thought as I possibly can.
Yeah, Luke has done.
Let's move on.
And here's Matt. He says, Luke and BC, I've been wondering this one for a while.
Kelvin Gasolum is one of my favorite fighters, says Matt, do you think if he were more disciplined
that he could have spent the most of his career at 155? I feel like even at 170, he carried a bit of
loose change. I think this is an automatic. One million percent, right, Luke? I mean, he would have
been best suited for a 165 division. True. But if he would have had the discipline to keep the body weight
down the idea that he has wrestling an incredible chin and he's a south paw who can box
and can land hard yeah i mean we saw the best of him in that on as sonya interim middleweight
title about but he was an undersized middleweight for the majority of his run and he clearly
lacked the elite level discipline when it came to the constant weight misses and to the writer's
point here the fact that he has carried loose change at middleweight for a long time yeah i mean i'm
I'm less convinced by the what-ifs on this one.
I mean, I think you would have gone further than he did.
I mean, by an important ways, but become champion.
I don't know.
I mean, that is a lightweight era that's going to be tough on him and how with those weight cuts,
even with discipline, have taken away from the, from the stamina of his game, from his
Yeah, or his or his considerable chin, you know, that's also a fair point.
Those things do need to be considered.
All right.
Our next, thank you, Matt, for that question.
Our next video question comes from Louisville's finest, I believe, unless there's anyone else known as Saul.
When I say MK all day, this is what I mean.
I have a shit on the church.
Way too many for one man.
You can't get this one no more, promotional malpractice.
Anyway, what do y'all's favorite seasonal treats?
I love the little Debbie tree cakes.
Okay, first of all, Luke, as we always laud him.
that's insane his commitment to the brand is just phenomenal i love that second to none wow all right uh luke's
seasonal treat favorites you know the the pumpkin spice latte type of things here that only come out
are you a pumpkin beer guy no never happened no i tried to be a pumpkin beer guy i couldn't do it
there's one beer i've had that was pretty good this was a long time ago i don't know if it's even
still around pumpkin you ever had that yeah what well see the thing is when you're
dial up the aggression like i love a a high level double ipa that has like some form of citrus
taste to it but there are some where they dial up the aggression of the flavor that they're
promoting so much that the spices and sugar are going to cause me to have a headache much faster
and i'm like do i really want this much this extreme pumpkin taste you know what i mean i like
no i don't i want to point out i was making videos for sb nation in 2013 and 2014 telling people
that IPAs, double IPAs
were the grossest shit on earth.
And I had, historically, no, no, no.
I got insane pushback at the time
only for 10 years later,
every fucking content creator on IG
making the exact same point.
I'm like, I was ahead of you, bitches,
by over a motherfucking decade.
Those are the next generation
people who are not growing up
with the craft beer revolution.
Like, people don't understand.
When you and I first started drinking beer,
our options were American Lager.
Like, that was freaking it.
Okay, gross, piss.
the same beer the Long Island Luke drinks purposely every weekend, all right?
Then we lived through the beginning of this craft revolution and you had different options
and you had really good embers and you had really good porters and you had this.
Then we lived through the absolute IPA craft beer.
Oh my God, we're drinking gourmet shit.
You know what I mean?
Treehouse brewery where we're traveling across the country to get one can of alchemist
or Pliny the Elder on the West Coast.
Pliny the Elder, but overrated beer.
Come this. Teddy Topper. Let's go. BC, I'm with you. You know, people want to talk shit about your palate with melons and stuff, but you got a great palate for beer. Thank you so much. So, Luke, here's what happened. He has the pallet of a toddler and then drinks this absolute nonsense. No, here's what I'm in the case. There's a common denominator there. The influencers today are not part of that era. So rightfully, they're going, wait. We can legally get weed or we could take great care of ourselves. Why are we going to, you know, hang out in the woods. No, it's because it tastes bad. And it's always tasted bad.
It is hard on the palate.
It is not pleasing to drink.
You don't have a sophisticated
enough palate to be able to handle
the craft of it.
It's the same thing with certain, you know,
music, Luke. You know what I mean? I like all kinds of music.
I don't spend time necessarily like
apportioning my free time to artistically
take it in, but I don't necessarily dislike it
in the ways you might imagine.
All right. I mean, we could be different people.
You can't make me like cucumber or pickles
with your cucumber and drag. Luke, I want you to know that,
all right?
Yeah, you need to.
because they're delicious. Also, more to the point, you know, the older I get, it's like,
don't get me wrong. I have certainly, there's a, there's a beer locally. It might even be an
IPA, but it's like, it's pretty, it's pretty mild, relatively speaking, called raised by wolves.
I can have one glass of raised by wolves, and it's basically fine. It's even quite, quite pleasant
at times. But as a general rule, the older I get, I feel like, and Anthony Bordain made this point,
he's like, what is the, for example, BC. And it's a different thing that I'm just trying to enjoy a nice beer
versus I'm trying to pair a beer with a nice thing to eat.
But what I would say is Anthony Bourdain has made this point, which was if you're going to
eat, for example, we're going to go eat Chinese food, not even just takeout, but like even
halfway decent Chinese food, like what kind of beer is going to marry best with that?
And the answer is it's going to be your standard kind of, you know, ordinary Pilsner.
Like, that's just what it's going to be.
And that to me is a much more refreshing experience overall than just trying to muddle through
triple dogfish head IPA fuck your mom
we're going to assassinate your palate with bullshit and dog piss
well all right you're going too far but I get it I mean I get the premise of what
you're saying but let's just not act like Lucas sophisticated in every category
let's no I'm not in every category but you're just wrong about beer I'm sorry I mean
you know when it comes to like music death metal hygiene you know you're sometimes on
the outside look at it just because I like farting in your mouth does not make me on
do you want to answer
Saul's question? Is there a seasonal tree?
So we did the pumpkin thing. I don't know about that. So what are some other ones?
What are like what are like other? Okay. So think of food that like only comes out
Christmas time or whatever. You know what I mean?
Easter. What about Easter? I mean, it's just more candy, right?
Yeah, a lot of it is candy based. I mean, you know, when those when those mini
eggs start coming out with, right? You know what I'm saying? Oh, the Cadbury. I do like,
I haven't had a Cadbury egg and I don't know how long, but like when I was a kid,
the Cadbury eggs, those were like the King shit for Halloween or sorry, um, uh, uh, uh,
Easter. I don't drink pumpkin spice lattes. As I mentioned, I don't drink pumpkin beer,
really. Long on Luke, what are we missing? What are some holiday foods and treats that are relevant
here? If we're talking like this time of year, you got to go like cinnamony stuff, you know?
Yeah, meat pie. You got to go meat pie. You got to go to the tortilla. I'll do hot chocolate
and marshmallows for like Christmas or like my daughter likes to go get it. It's a fun little thing
that we do. All right. That's a fair basic one. But yeah, I'm trying to think of what else is like specifically
tied to a certain holiday or season that we, for whatever reason, don't get the other months
of the year, you know?
Are there July 4th treats?
Because everyone associates it with like beer, hot dogs, that kind of burgers.
Yeah, I'm like, I've been eating hot dogs since the beginning.
I don't need, yeah.
I mean, that's probably the only time I'll willingly drink shitty beer, you know,
outside with the can in the hand, you know, all the, you know, America, baby.
Yeah.
Maybe it'll be like Christmas has all of them because you have, you have, you have, you
all the cookies you can eat you have all of the things you can drink and the food and the
merriment i feel like that's your that's really yeah my my grandmother always made chocolate
cream pie on thanksgiving and christmas and it was you never had it the rest of the year and it
was oh yeah it's great love it love it thank you me ma r i p all right let's go to jacob
he says how would you match everyone up at one 45 here's jacob's idea luke wolkenovsky lorone
Murphy. Molfsar versus Yussev Zalal. Diego Lopez versus Yair. Aljo versus Steve Garcia. And bonus question,
what would be the odds for each fight? He's asking us a lot here. Luke, how would you match up the top end of the
UFC featherweight division right now? Would it align with what Jacob just laid out? All right. So I'm
looking at the matchups here. Volk versus Lorone. Movsar versus Zalal. Diego versus Yaire. That's a
that's a Diego versus
Yair is a yes.
I'm going to vote me yes on that.
Aljo versus Steve Garcia.
I don't hate that.
By the way,
they just announced that for the first paramount
on UFC card in January,
there's rumors that it's going to be
Arnold Allen against Lord Silva,
which is a great fight.
Great fight.
Phenomenal fight.
It's 45, yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
I would do, I mean,
whatever we want,
I would do Volk versus Movesar.
Okay.
Then what do you do?
Laron.
I do Lerone versus Aljo and Zalalal versus Steve Garcia.
Okay.
Okay.
What do you think the odds would be, let's just talk about the title level.
Long Island, Luke, you can chime in, too.
Volk versus Murphy.
What are your odds for that, Long Island?
I'd go Volk minus 150, sorry, minus 175, Lerone plus 150, something like that.
Luke, do you give Mofstar better odds than he just gave Lerone?
No.
about the same all right all right they're both the same challenge just in different wrapping paper ultimately
and different styles makes them not the same at all look all right you're saying they got the same
chance okay that's what they got which is no chance yeah i don't know i think volk's vulnerable i don't know
if he gets past another title defense well if it's mowsar i think he could if it's a striker i'm like
you know all right that is also interesting mofsar is like jacked cut ripped in the gym
he's got to develop a singularly dominant finishing skill, does he not?
Who's this again? I'm sorry?
Mofsar I've Loev.
He's been gone along enough where I'm kind of curious to see what else he's put together.
You know, maybe nothing.
By the way, your boy, Shavkat was on Ariel.
He said, end of February, maybe March.
He's ready. He's ready.
It's time. The king is back.
All right, there we go.
We have another video question from someone.
named Sidney. Luke, will this be a male
or female? Do we have male viewers? Come on, brother.
Let's be serious.
Okay, so my
question is more of an
opinion that I want to get your guys' take on.
I feel like the issue with specialists
in the UFC is that they don't spend enough
time game planning around whatever
they're best at.
If you contrast that with Islam
or Krabi's team in general, they know
that wrestling is their core and they look at
different ways to really put that game plan
into place, like using leg kicks against
JDM or other types of things that then set up the takedowns, in addition to them having different
types of takedowns. Other people who come into with high pedigrees of wrestling, other things
assume the wrestling that will be there, game plan they're striking or game plan they're grappling.
So I feel like that that's going to be perpetually a problem anytime you're a special if you
don't game plan to implement your specialty and just assume it will be there. Also, B.C.,
you have not been live streaming, you have been rambling, and I've been listening to some new
music. I want to get your opinions on. So hopefully you come back soon.
thank you guys yeah bitch get to work yeah yeah it's about time i get back to work uh sit thank
you sid for that question he looks like a guy with good cable management luke but what did you
think about his question regarding it's a good one game planning specialism all that so i think
um like bow nickel might be an example of that too right where he like you know the wrestling
will just be there how much thought i have to put into the component pieces around it i i think it's a
in general a very trenchant observation what i
I would say though is I would also argue like it's not necessarily a limiting factor either in
certain cases like okay here's a great example hamzat shamaia always is clear he's like I don't
game plan I don't game plan at all and it's because he has developed such a skill level and he
an ability over his peers that he trusts so completely that he doesn't need to to capture a UFC
title so what I'm going to say though is that will eventually catch up with him I mean again
you can be so talented that you can get away from these other factors.
The one I'm trying to make is he's clearly got enough skill to win a UFC title
without game planning really around what he's doing.
On the other hand, I think that the reason that Habib and his team have had the success
that they've had is that I look at their focus on building the composite pieces around their
core identity as a function of having been taught how to do coaching at a high level.
In other words, that kind of thinking about your game is another kind of skill that you have to nurture and develop.
And they have, by virtue of the circumstances of Abdulman not being there, Habib getting out, taking on that mantle, but having the influence of like dissecting games.
That's its own separate kind of skill set.
And the very best teams and the very best coaches and the very best fighters, to an extent, obviously, as well, they kind of develop that over time.
And that, for me, it can change your upper bound limit.
But what it also can really do is maintain longevity.
Whereas Hamzat, if once the game catches up a little bit or he begins to wane physically
and you don't really have an identity about what you're going to do and what you're going to build around,
that will catch up with you.
Again, not in like some kind of like, oh, it will ruin his career.
No.
But there might be a loss in his future that shouldn't have happened,
but for the fact that he never really exercised these muscles.
Do you think more people will follow the Glover to share a game plan, which is, was considered a, you know, elite boxer with a good ground game when he went to the title level against John Jones.
We kind of counted them out after a couple losses, particularly that UFC 202 devastation delivered by Rumble Johnson, yet he completely stayed with it, reimagined himself, wins a title in his early 40s, completely built around going back to the basics of his bread and butter, and making himself a better and more.
lights out wrestler and submission expert
that's how he built longevity
Luke and he's also Brazilian
in a maniac in the best ways
and has a great chance I mean I think you have to
build around what comes natural to you
rather than one style works the best
or one I mean there's
of course there's going to be a shared set of best practices
yes
but I don't I don't
you know he's the blueprint for a different kind
of guy maybe right you see like
yeah there's a he's
Look, could you really say that Poetan would be Poetan without Glover Tashira?
He might still be a high achiever, but it's that correct pairing.
You know what I mean?
He doesn't buy that man a truck and motorcycle if he didn't.
Exactly, exactly.
But I may not work for other people, too.
I mean, I'm sure Glover's going to be good for a lot of fighters, but you get the point
I'm trying to make.
I don't know if it's a prototype.
I'm just saying, thinking about your game in this way, I talked to Dean Thomas about
this once.
Like, Dean was telling me so few fighters really do it.
They think about certain parts of it, you know, certain things that they like to do for sure,
but they don't really think about building a game and strategies and avenues and routes to
attack and what they look like and what the antecedent causes of this are.
They just don't put in that kind of thoughtful work.
The very, very best ones do.
Like you can imagine, for example, Kayla Harrison does, you know, and these things lead to it.
But I don't think it's just, that's the other part, too.
I don't think this is just specific to wrestlers.
I think there's a lot of fighters that don't put in nearly as much thought into game planning as you might imagine.
Sometimes, though, it comes with your success level, which equals your financial ability to become better.
I say that because I got an interview coming out with Alexandria Pantosia on the BCX in which when I specifically talk to him about this current eight fight win streak, him going from, you know, sort of a tough out.
And this division in his early 30s to becoming arguably the second greatest champion in its history, top five pound for pound.
And at 35, like he's just, you know, becoming this complete force.
And I was like, two years ago, you beat Moreno by just outdogging him.
And now you're making it look easy against everybody.
And he legitimately said, when you become a champion, you get more money.
You then can afford to truly level up your game and live a year-round lifestyle that is
constantly aimed at, putting, you know, investing your money back into yourself.
And that's how you get to this level, Luke.
That's interesting, think about.
Yeah, that's another way to do it.
Sure.
He's building longevity on that, you know, in a lot of ways.
Training, you know, being able to afford to train at ATT,
rubbing elbows with Horat Gucci and Adriano Marais and all those fellows.
That is very, very true, yes.
Look, we're going to take a break from the shout out and the questions of the fans for a second here
because I don't know if you watched the Ariel Hawani show this week
when MVP promoter, Nikisa Badarian, came on.
Your best friend, huh?
Proceeded to dunk on the MMA media industry, me and by proxy,
due to last name affiliation, accidentally you as well.
And I was like, damn, this got a little bit saucy, if not spicy.
I know who to call.
Who are you going to call?
I'm calling Cuervo.
All right, this right here is shots fired.
All right, this is shots fired.
is a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila before we play this i'm just going to
set up what the origin of this beef is i was never a fan of jake paul versus gervante davis i
was outspoken against that and when the fight was inevitably canceled i did put out a tweet
that basically said not enough people talking about the fact that the tickets for jake versus
take were not selling like at all and nekisa uh you know follow
it up with the response of that's funny. Here we go to the Ariel Hawanna show.
I did tweet yesterday, or no, maybe it was a couple of days ago, something regarding the
boxing and I just wanted to get some clarity. Seeing some of the tweets by boxing in
MMA media today makes you realize a lot. What are you referring to here? I think like even media
members have become social media influencers. They try to put out like, you know, statements that are not
appropriate if you're a real journalist from my perspective. Everyone is looking to put out
content that engages. And so what happens is, like, when I see a Dan Raphael, like, L-O-L, this can't
be real, blah, blah, blah. It's just like, that would never be okay in the old world of
traditional media, right? Or Brian, what's Brian's Brian's last name? Is it Campbell, Thomas, what's
name. Brian Campbell, yes. If you're talking about CBS sports.
I was so anti-UFC and Dana White in the past. Now I see him taking shots at like MVP or
Jake Paul suddenly and saying, you know, saying stuff that just is very odd to me. So I just
think it just shows you that true journalism with full integrity is being, is becoming murky, right?
because people really want to be birded and seen and feel like they're getting engagement.
Interesting. Interesting there.
Hey, Brian Thomas.
Now is a good time to enjoy that tequila that invented tequila.
I wish I had some right now.
Let me talk about Brian Campbell, Thomas, right here, and what Nekisa said.
Look, MMA journalist, sports, combat sports journalism is murky right now.
It has been and it's continued down that trend.
Why?
A lot of different combinations.
A big one being the fact that the major promotions are, you know, so exclusively signing these exclusive
deals with networks, networks by proxy having their own, in a lot of cases, websites that are
sort of tied to them could in a lot of ways change the temperature of the coverage you are
providing.
You mix that with the, with the, you know, onset of the YouTube era, social media, you can
become a quote unquote journalist just by becoming popular, not.
going through the traditional, you know,
collegiate journalism studies and paying dues up the ladder.
I'm obviously closer to, you know,
the more traditional sense.
But I think what Nekisa is upset about right there
is his belief that I'm suddenly just dunking on MVP and him.
And when the reality is, look, I don't know if these promoters,
like, we're never going to be their friends.
They may like us when we give coverage that to them feels very positive.
and they're always inevitably not going to like us when we give coverage that is negative toward them.
This isn't me suddenly dunking on MVP.
This is me saying what I said from the beginning that Jake v. Tank was a comical gimmick fight
during an era when Jake Paul could really use a real fight,
considering we're coming off of the Mike Tyson debacle of which I was very negative about,
but he doesn't seem to be referencing that now.
And the Chavez Jr. about, which I was also very negative about.
Could you argue back in response to what I said on Twitter in which, by the way,
I was referencing the actual Ticketmaster seating map, which did show that only a third
of the arena appeared to be full two weeks out?
Could you argue and say, like Ariel did during that sequence, that the gate doesn't
matter.
It's the Netflix one.
You can argue that.
Could you argue that they were going to paper the building anyway, which happens a lot
at the highest level in boxing to make that crowd full?
You can make that argument.
could you also make the argument that it was two weeks out if they would have kept that fight going a lot of tickets would come in last minute including if they discounted the prices sure you can do all of that but at the time that fight was canceled because of this civil lawsuit against gervante and suddenly the moral police within was like wait we can't do this fight and it seems to be the case by the way it seems like netflix was sort of like okay this is too far we don't want this we can't act like there was huge demand for the fight the ticket sales say something
then don't they they do so it's cute to call me out right here but at the end of the day like
i've given MVP positive coverage i wrote a really nice feature actually two of them in the
same week about MVP going so aggressively into women's boxing at the time that i wrote that
they were looking to raise money uh to try to become like a real competitor for what turkey was doing
i gave them positive press when it when it mattered but like media even though the lines are
constantly blurred are never going to truly be your friend why
I, because, A, there's people that think that we can't have opinions as media.
We're critics.
I write editorial columns.
We're critics.
We have these shows and these platforms to give our opinion.
Is it entertainment?
Is it cloud chasing?
Is it a lot of things?
Yeah, it's all those at one.
And, you know, in one.
But I think that's a little soft to call out that specific incidents and to take this stance in modern days.
You know, I mean, he was on a show that they don't talk,
negatively about him. So that's the irony in him calling me out for that. Yeah, I mean,
this is just a silly thing for him to say. I'm not going to sit here and dunk on Nikisa, even though we
definitely could. But what I will say is for his edification and everybody else is,
please understand that it's the year 2025. It's almost 2026. And here is what you are up against,
not just you, me, all of us. This is the world that we now live in. We have allowed through a variety
of different changes to technological and then policy choices to destroy,
journalism as such. Okay. We have we have we have allowed Google and Facebook or now meta to take away basically all of the ad dollars that powered genuine journalism and what's left in that wake or is just a series of podcasts like this one, but also some media outlets that are left. They also can't really lean into journalism by virtue of the corporate model that requires ad clicks, which requires access, right? We have taken out all of the firewalls and protections. And
in the baked business model that makes consistent, well-paid, and well-schooled, and very, you know,
and what he describes as kind of like this, you know, Halcyon Days of Journalism, that's over.
It is over, Nekisa.
It is never coming back, not in sports media, not in political media, nothing.
You can find some people hanging on to it because our individual circumstances or business models
and very small amounts that make it possible, but as an industry-wide practice, it's never coming back.
So that's the first thing I would say.
The second thing I would say is the idea that opinions that he doesn't like are the subject of people not doing their job is the exact inversion of reality.
Even the Walter Cronkites of their time, again, a very different business environment as well as a media environment.
Even those guys had opinions and they pretended to the audience that they didn't.
Certainly there are ways in which you can couch it and it doesn't cover your work.
so nakedly in a way that gets in the way of it,
and that that's an argument you can have.
But the reality is by letting the audience know what our opinions are,
we are not pretending to be something that we are not.
By the way, I don't claim the mental journalist.
BC can speak for himself,
but I certainly don't because I don't do journalistic work
because also I want to pay my mortgage.
Well, I mean, I finished it,
but the idea is like if you want to pay your bills trying to do that,
Nikisa, who is paying people in sports media to do journalism?
brother who is it i would love to know who that is because i don't see them people call themselves
that shit but they don't really do that shit john nash does journalism you know what pays for that
substack subscribers where he gives his opinion yeah and also he gives his opinion but just be serious
like who's paying for sports journalism pablo tori gets away with it because he's a special case
it doesn't exist the kisa it does not exist so the point i'm trying to make is and i'm
it's an olive branch i really am meaning this we are going to give opinions because that is actually
how you build authenticity with the audience so they know where you're coming from.
And then you and they can all decide whether or not you like the opinion, whether you dislike
it, maybe whether it colors the coverage, maybe whether it doesn't.
We are never going back to the era that you imagine that we had because everyone in every part
of the media ecosystem destroyed it, welcome to the desert of your reality.
True. And also, if you're going to be a circus fight promoter of what you've done,
an impeccable job. I'll give you a lot of credit. I always do. But if you're
you're going to roll out circus fights like Tyson Paul, like Jake Tank, you're going to get.
Let's be honest.
Like, dude, Jake Paul has been an enormous success.
We've interviewed him a bunch of times.
He's clearly got a lot going on and he's clearly proved a lot of people wrong.
You and me included on several occasions, Nikisa as well.
These are not people who are successful by accident and I recognize as much.
But the Mike Tyson fight was complete ass.
It was terrible to watch.
It was a waste of everyone's time.
It was embarrassing for the sport, and we're going to say as much.
And if you don't like that fact or anyone else that doesn't like that fact,
tough shit, I don't know what to tell you.
It was bad.
And the Chavez Jr. fight was also bad.
It's been a lot of bad.
Now, to that end, BC, to that end, AJ fight, okay.
I don't know if it makes sense on the other direction,
but I can certainly withdraw all the things that I had criticisms about,
about those other two fights.
Fine, I will remove that.
And there's different things you can say about it, but fine.
But like this idea that like they're owed some level of neutrality as a way to like minimize criticism for turning in bad product.
This is 2025.
Like I'm sorry.
Those days are completely over.
Yeah.
And this is 2025 and that was shots fired brought to you by Cuervo.
Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila.
That invented tequila.
Let's keep the fun rolling with the people here.
Joseph says, boys, let's get some fight stories from your past.
If you won't do that or don't have any, let's go through the.
rankings and predict who's champ at the end of 2026 for each division big kisses it's
joseph luke does he want you to regale stories of fights you were in and if you are unwilling or
there aren't any he wants you to predict who will end this calendar year i'm sorry who will be
the champion at the end of next year and each ufc division who the fuck knows that i mean
i'm not a fighter luke i'm a lover all right all right i'll i'll do some
some of these i'll still say marab okay 40 45 i don't know dude um i mean let's start at the top
125 men we're talking about a year and a month from now who's the champion
that's tough josh van it might be josh van i mean or it may not be too like i mean
Pantosia.
Say again?
Pantosia.
You think Pantosia keeps it?
Yeah.
Beats Van,
defends it twice next year.
No, come on.
Kiyogi, Hoaguchi.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
He ain't beating him.
Come on.
Guch doesn't have it.
Guch had it on the mats to train him.
All right,
but he didn't teach him everything he knew, okay?
You think Marab still, Luke?
No moving up.
Just stay with it.
Mara, I think he keeps it.
Nah, bro.
A healthy Umar beats him head to head.
Oh, thank you.
Rob's going to have it in 2029.
Marab is holding on.
Yeah, I got, I don't, I didn't, I don't agree on.
Umar.
All right.
It's not going to be Volk at Feather.
So who is it going to be?
I don't think it's going to, I don't know.
That one I, I true, I true.
Movesar.
Movesar.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know who it's going to be.
That's a wide open division at the moment.
Let's move over to lightweight, Laleanda, Luke.
The legend?
I'll say Laleandaanda.
Yeah, I'll say him, El Madador.
I think it's trending toward El Madador at the moment.
It's also in that deep ass, that deep ass F division of welterweight.
It's still trending Islam, the best fighter in the world right now.
Yeah.
I'm going to say Shafkat Rachmanov.
For middleweight?
Middleweight seemed better days?
No, no, for 170.
Oh, for Shat Hamza, I was saying.
So you're saying Shavkat over Islam?
Ooh, that's an interesting take.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you believe in Hamzot holding it down for another?
year being healthy i do yeah especially since he's not he might compete only once next year in which
case by the way remember how everyone got after dean thomas for saying this is exactly what's going
to happen and it's starting to happen and everyone killed him for saying that i'm like dean proved
everybody right or sorry we proved himself right i'm sorry i predict that john jones would come
to kadirov's son's birthday party luke and then i don't know i don't know if you let that one slip
you know right uh do you think poiton no he's moving up to heavyweight
yeah i just don't think yes i agree i agree yeah i agree it might be eerie's time again it might be
does do you think olberg gets it no i don't but if he shows me that i mean he'll show me something
big but i don't i think that is a pro hotska division still probably probably heavy weight
luke heavy weight this is a heavy question that's a different one
i'm tempted to say gable steveson to be honest with you but uh i won't go that far um
Hmm
John Jones, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Dude, how funny would it be if it's Cortez or Costa?
How funny would that be?
That would be awesome.
That would be amazing.
Tom Asperall, let's put some respect on this guy.
Probably, Tom Aspinall.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah.
Women's straw weight, McKenzie Dern, nah.
No.
Jean-Wea Lee will be the champion at the end of next year.
Probably.
Or Tatiana Suarez.
True, true.
Shevchenko?
Now, see, she's starting to get real up there in age, in which case, I don't know how much longer she's got in her.
She just absolutely dominated way Lee. Come on. Come on. Come on. Bra. All right. Come on.
No, but, okay, but here's the thing. Like, pieces of her game are going away each year.
I mean, everyone surely notices this, right? She's rounding out the other pieces. Look what she did to thorough.
Totally fair. But eventually that's going to come to a close, too, and you've let the other pieces go.
Like, it's a game that they all play, right? We all know it. I'm just saying, like, you're losing offense year over year.
you know i don't know i don't know how that one i changed my welterway pick to you're a slob i'm a slob luke
you are coming soon that's right and to close it off is it going to be kela amanda
valentina or juliana i think it's going to be valentina i think valentina's going to go up
you think she beats cala i think cala may have one or two left fights total left
you know what i mean i don't she might even have just one like if the next
why it's Amanda Nunes. Jim, I just call it a day.
That cut, that cut is, that cut is,
it's one of the worst cuts I've ever seen.
Like, no human should be doing what she's doing.
Yeah, yeah. I'll give you five seconds to answer this.
There's one UFC champion currently under the age of 30.
Who is it?
Say it again, there's one UFC champion currently,
uh,
Taboria.
Yes.
Isn't that wild?
Yeah.
One.
Dude, one.
I know.
I would have guessed that Shimaev was under 30.
No.
But he lost all that.
time you know what i mean like you ain't getting that back all right let's get another video loaded up here
this one's from alexander what up l t in bc it's your boy romping bronco i'm here at my workstation
where i fix up old film cameras that are almost as washed as you guys and i've got two questions
for you today first question what's the p o box you guys use i'm sure you've mentioned it at some point
i just forgot i've got a care package i want to send you guys and i'd love to get it there before
Christmas, if possible. Second question. Operating under the assumption that the UFC is actually going
to try in 2026, what are the first three headlining fights that you want to see? So January, February,
and March. I would really like to see Aspinall versus Gone 2 in January. If Tom is able to see,
I think it would be great to get the fight going. February, it would be really nice to see Ilya,
fight Armin. And your mileage may vary on this, but having Ilya fight in the month of love
Could be an interesting storyline for some, B.C. in March, Wokinovsky fight Evelwev, potentially give him an opportunity to retire in Australia.
Those are my thoughts. I would love to hear what three fights you think they're going to go with.
Thank you again so much for the show. Can't wait to hear what you guys think.
My man's got some old-ass cameras on there.
Shut out to that guy. What do we call him again? He's a...
Bromping Bronco?
Yeah, Alexander. Thank you for that.
Put up the P.O. box address on the screen. There you go.
Everyone, if you want to send us contraband or vinyl or comic books or just, you know, anthrax, you can send it for your audio only listeners, we have a PO box, send it to Morning Combat, 55 Girard Street, G-E-R-A-R-D, P-O-box 57, Huntington, New York, 117-4-3.
There you go, rewind it, write it down.
Thank you so much.
By the way, while the show was going on, I mean, it started.
before the show, but while the show was going on,
Habib and Connor are still tweeting each other.
Like, it's still happening.
What are they tweeting about?
Connor accused
of rug pulling his fans
for some kind of like NFT shit.
I'm not even sure what he sold to be honest with you.
And then...
Oh, he sold the papaca.
Yeah.
And then Kabib went out back at him
and that was when the show started.
And now Connor has responded to that.
So this one is kind of ugly going back and forth.
All right. Question right here.
Question right here.
I don't think he would break
promise to mother and father
except for the fact that he said this
this grudge match is never over
but the war between them is never over
would Connor Habib 2
with Habib coming out of retirement
at any catchway
be the biggest fight in the company history
above their first matchup?
Not above the first,
but it'd be number two.
Wow.
Who else would do who else?
I mean, who else?
Wow. Wow.
You know, you could bring,
you could bring Ronda back, you know, imagine you have to play the hits like Ronda Misha.
That would be big.
Rhonda Holly, too, would be big.
That would be very big.
Old and washed.
Do you see Mayor Eric Adams wants to investigate Dylan Danis beat down?
So he's probably going to go after John Pork.
So to answer Alexander's question, and he made good fight picks right there,
I would go to Poria Sarukian in January, give me ask.
been all gone to in February and give me all right Islam won't fight this he's got Ramadan
then give me what's that third matchup Luke what's the third sexy match what was his third
matchup I forget I mean just think about the most exciting talents in the sport so it would
be it would be Ilya Arman for sure it would be
you know the biggest rivalry it would be tom and they're not going to do it i'm just saying it'd be
tom and uh or john jones and poiton like one of the two um it would be
i mean islam against i and gary would be great but all these pushing that ozman thing hard
hard i mean again they might go ozman it's not the one i care about the most which one do i
care about more i would give it to gary over usman just on meritocracy um
what's the other one there like hamsot versus who
that's the other part too like who's he's oh fluffy
humza versus fluffy would be kind of fun yeah but imovov deserves it more right now he does
he does yeah you're right he does that's not as exciting it's not as exciting no no yeah but you're
right it'd be imovov for sure all right it's kind of where we're at i do hope obviously that we all
hope that they come out guns blazing in the paramount era that the removal of that second paywall
allows the sport to grow in this country and become hot.
I mean, I wish they would just identify four or five rivalries that are going to be hot
as shit and go back to the old way of building those up.
You know what I mean?
I love that.
But we got Mark Shapiro in charge.
Yeah.
Congrats.
Let's hear from Tyler.
Hey, LTBC and the LIL.
I've been following MMA for almost 20 years and saw a prime BJ Penn rain at lightweight during
his prime.
There's a double on negative right now.
Or maybe it's just too much of that one word.
Is it crazy to think that a prime BJ and his skill set would still be competitive in the modern lightweight division at the title level?
Also, what is your perspective on the impact in role Hawaii has played in the history of MMA?
I'm born and raised in Hawaii, but have been working and living on the East Coast the last 10 years,
six in the DMV area, the last four in the NYC.
So Luke, start off with this.
Does the BJ Penn of Prime Lightweight Era compete with Tuporia, Sarukian, Patty, Gachi?
Yes, yes.
Okay.
Yes, I think he could beat any of them, yes.
He ain't being Tuporia right now.
He could beat Tuporia.
Wow.
Wow.
Prime, Prime BJ Penn?
Yes, he could.
All right.
What is your perspective on the impact and role Hawaii has played in the history of MMA?
I mean, there's a stat in boxing where it's like in terms of land area.
Puerto Rico has produced more champions in boxing than any other, like similar size
territory, anywhere else on earth.
And it just kind of tells you like culturally what can be produced when, you know,
you have some of the right ingredients in place.
And, you know, again, there's, there's cultural importance around boxing.
Look what they can produce.
Baseball, too, obviously, Puerto Rico and other sports.
You know, I'm not sure Hawaii's on quite like that level in terms of the amount of champions,
but it's got a similar kind of feel where it's the small landmass.
and there are just a series of circumstances that are created there
where fighting takes on a culturally outsized role
and look at the consequences of that.
I mean, I'm going to say it as not like down,
not like they're bad.
Like I'm almost like for the most part pretty good.
I mean, obviously, there could be some consequences to fighting that are bad
as a cultural practice.
But you just, you know, the amount of champions they produce,
the amount of talent overall that they produce
this tiny, tiny island nation,
it is significant.
They've had some of the very best fighters ever.
And, you know, guys, less so BJPen,
but although there was a lot of truth to it too,
but certainly in the case of Max,
Max never left the islands.
You know, Max never went to AKA or ATTBC.
He never changed coaches.
He never changed inside the island itself.
He never changed, you know,
the gym that basically is the one that got him to the dance.
Like how many places that are remotely located?
like that have that kind of the ability to produce world-class talent in that kind of a way,
you know, as consistently generationally has been able to do.
And there's so many Hawaiian fighters you've just never even known about, you know,
Ronald Machine Gun, John, and there used to be, Hawaii used to be the epicenter of
some of the most exciting fights happening outside the UFC.
It was a promotion there called Icon Sport.
It used to be called Super Brawl.
You see, they would have super heavyweight fights there.
And because of the Japanese influence, there would be a little bit of connectivity between that scene and the American scene.
Robbie Lawler fought at icon sport.
Jason Mayhem Miller fought at icon sport.
I think even Tim Sylvia fought.
I mean, a bunch of guys during that era all fought there because Hawaii was so preeminent.
The last thing I'd say on this is, you know, there are good things you can say about the promotional abilities of Scott Coker,
and there's criticisms you can make, and that's true of any promoter.
I think one of the good things that he really understood, and I don't know how much it means.
meant to modern fans, but Hawaii's preeminence and the place that it holds in the sport is
quite legitimate. And he would bring those shows back to Hawaii, those Bellator shows, which I
thought was just such a grand gesture. It's really a shame UFC's never been there. And they
refuse to go because of penny pinching. It's like they've got all the money in the world. I just feel
like a UFC Hawaii event would be such a home run. And it's, we're waiting for it to happen.
max in a BMF title fight atop it
can you imagine can you imagine
yeah I mean we wouldn't know telvin key
papa you know big papa without
without Hawaii's MMA
you know who's the other guy we like off that
island Luke
Daz back up on that
That's back up on that ass
That's what I'm talking about okay and the pineapple princess
Luke thank you Hawaii
All right let's keep the fun moving right here
We have Donagin
Of Irish fame it sounds like
With a video
What's up Luke
in bc day one donk here dongan anderson i've been there since the bomb shelter i've watched
your show longer than i think i've watched any other show ever and that's really fucking
depressing my wife doesn't understand it but i keep coming back for more thank you i got one question
for you to wash pieces of shit and i can say that because i'm 25 um even though i look like i'm
35. What is your worst slash best gas station bathroom experience? I'll preface that by saying
my worst is I made fun of a trucker for leaving a stall without washing his hands, like fixing
to leave the bathroom. And he got so mad, he threatened to shiv me. What is yours? Thank you all for
everything you do. Have a great Thanksgiving.
All of my gas station bath ones are like,
just disgusting you're on vacation driving through the south on the way to florida and you
open you know the the guy working at the grossest gas station ever opens up with the lock the grossest
bass the reverend there's literally just you know four feet of shit dripping down the wall of the
bathroom and you're just like how did i get here or when you get off the highway at like the
rest stop in new york state and there's a hole in the stall wall and you're like nine years old
going you know dropping a deuce you turn around there's like a grown man trucker next to you just looking
at you look i've had some of those experiences i could i'll be i'll be honest with you driving
is hard on me for my anxiety and it always has been but it's certainly gotten worse to the
power i barely drive hardly at all anymore i love driving long distance look oh it's that's
dude i could have been a truck honestly if someone says you have to drive seven hours or eat a bullet
i'm going to eat a bullet i mean that's just what it's going to be you know say goodbye to my wife and
family and it's cold a day um so i don't really have a ton of like i mean i've had
had terrible bathroom experiences, but I don't know about how many have been specifically located
to the gas station or good ones for that matter either. I mean, I could tell you, I went to like
a, do you know Royal Farms, BC? Yes. So Royal Farms is like the Wawa of Maryland. Yes. There's Wawa
is in Maryland as well, but Royal Farms is like a Maryland-based version of that. I didn't know
anything about Royal Farms and I went into one of the bathrooms and I couldn't believe how pristine it was,
but this is not a particularly interesting story. Again, the worst bathroom story is independent of
gas stations that I've had have all been it was the renaissance festival which was i mean that
commode brother that haunts me in my dreams yeah they do abortions in that just just doing straight
up abortions and civil war surgery just limbs in there and shit gangrene uh blood and piss and shit
and then on the good side oh sorry on the other one was again the one in turkey where the guy was
tearing out pages of the phone book for one lira to go dumb
and a hole in the ground.
And there was flies everywhere landing on you.
You know what I mean?
Oh my God,
it was terrible.
Driving alone at like midnight on the New Jersey Turnpike one time,
got off at the rest stop.
There were three pissers and three shitters.
I was in the last shitter alone at night.
Somebody enters.
They come all the way down to my stall where I'm dropping a deuce.
And they're like shaking the door trying to get the lock open.
And I'm like, what are you doing?
They're like, I got to go so bad.
And I'm like, there's all there.
You can go with the other ones.
And they just, the entire time that I was there until I finished, they were trying to get the door open.
I was, like, was this a George Michael invite?
I don't know what it was, Luke, but I could not have packed up quicker.
And it was just like, here, have it, get out of it.
How often have you walked in on someone who was just too lazy to lock the stall?
Yeah, that's happened to.
I've definitely done that at lunch.
John again, thank you for looking 35.
We're done with this gross question, okay?
Thank you.
Joseph Abank.
Look, have you ever accepted a gas station proposal on the bathroom?
No, all right.
that's fine that's fine i think i'm some kind of fucking no i know a dude who drove across
country and he had stories at like the uh you know iowa uh truck stops where like truckers have
propositioned him for sex but yeah see this thing i'm not on the road in enough places for me
to have stories like this i'm on my feet in places non gas station related but not like that
i've heard the bathrooms in uh public bathrooms in japan or you can eat off the floor but i'm not
going to try it all right uh Gabe is here he says sup luke bc and crew what are the best foods
movies and music to enjoy while
hi thanks y'all
now BC
this is going to sound like a real
fucked up answer
I firmly believe
I mean okay let's let's sort of break this down
very very simply why
why do people do drugs
to enhance their
and push anxiety and depression
behind them that can be a reason
that's certainly one of them but the basic idea
is that euphoria confers experiential benefit, right?
I mean, this is the basic idea.
I mean, don't philosophize this, Luke.
They just want to know what you get turned to.
I'm getting to it.
I'm getting to it.
I'm getting to it.
Hold on.
There's, fuck you, Long Island, Luke, because this applies to you mostly.
Which is, the point is that it's supposed to, again, it doesn't always do this for not
always these reasons.
There can be any kind of maladaptive behavior around it, but the basic idea is that it brings
you a degree of temporary, however, real euphoria.
Thank you, Carlisle.
young the reason why i bring that up is because i don't think there's one genre of movie or food or
anything like the idea is in the words of doug stanhope he's talking about alcohol i just take a mundane
situation and i pour alcohol on top of it and all of a sudden it's a lot better it's the same why do
people smoke weed before they go to a concert because it makes the concert better or a movie or
you know before a big feast it just makes what you're going to have even better there are
caveats to that but as a general rule bc i challenge the premise of the question because it's
almost universal in terms of its application thank you for wasting our time with that
fuck you that was a good answer bitch uh i will answer and say musically i'm definitely going in radio head
there is just a next level when you're in the eighth row of being able to understand the let's let's pick
the second greatest album in rock history in rainbows by radio head and put that as an example you
put the headphones on you have such alternating rhythms going on that the only way to
really decode and understand and be within that is to be deep in that ath row uh you could argue
on movies luke sometimes you just like if i'm on an airplane and i'm sitting in delta eight i'm like
all right give me harold and kumar give me just some slapstick ridiculousness uh but at the same
time luke i've sat in the ath row and saw uh uncut gems at a uh astronomical level there's no
genre and it was no but that genre whatever you want to call that
And I don't mean like neo-noir or whatever.
I mean, like, you know, for that example of a movie,
the Safty brothers have mastered that ability to take these scenes
and make them so intense.
And where you're just like, I just want to get off this ride.
And then, you know, five minutes later, another scene hits.
That is a good spot to be in for that type of stuff, Luke.
I got high and rewatched.
I hadn't seen it in so long.
There will be blood.
Yes.
With Daniel Day Lewis.
Holy shit, brother.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, food-wise, you know, whatever gets you through the night.
This is what I mean, Long Island Luke, wait in here.
I'm not saying people don't have their favorites like they would experientially.
Long Island, look, you there?
I'm not saying people don't have their favorites or you might like a certain thing a little bit more.
But my general rule is like the point of doing that, not all drugs, not in all context,
but in general is to lift the overall experience more broadly.
I don't think of it in terms of like, oh, I had, I'm going to eat Taco Bell sober too.
you know what i mean wouldn't you say that like something like chocolate you go to a whole
another level in the a throw i mean it's like you're but i do that for almost anything on
i'm gonna say that everything like luke said it's just whatever you're into will be more fun if
you're high yeah exactly but to answer this person's question i feel like movies in particular like
okay there's difference between like bc said watching a movie on an airplane i know you were sitting
in ath row but how about like watching a movie in like an imax theater with like the surround
sound and it's some weird movie where it's like oh this shit could actually happen and now you're
or like black mirror you ever watch black mirror high that shit'll fuck with your mind like i like
you've watched kind of a woman on weed yeah you ever see the back of a $20 bill oh we
I want your condoms back I don't know we didn't use them no just to close on that I have a certain
sets of genre and music that are so greatly escalated by that um you know radio had pink floyd
level of production
certain
progressive right I'm not gonna
I can say this I'm not to listen to yes
or you know Emerson
I can say this you know what's you know what album
again I'm just I mean who gives a fuck
about my opinions on hip hop but I'll just say
one album that critics like that I also like this year was
the new clips album
and it was produced by Farrell
and you know it dude it's like just look at
the critical reviews like it's just a really
really well made album certainly
that's one of those albums
And some of the songs lend themselves to it with maybe like a, well, not all of it,
but a more measured kind of pace.
Yeah.
Where you can kind of slowly absorb it in ways that you hadn't before.
And some experiences lend themselves great.
So I definitely got a better ability to hear that one in particular.
Dude, if I'm going to listen to Miles Davis, you know, bitches brew, I can't handle that shit sober.
You ever listen to Outcasts Equeminine?
Hi.
I have not.
Oh, that's a fun experience.
All right.
In the interest of time, let's speed through.
Here's Josh E with a question.
Good aim, Kay.
Question for the mailbag.
What's your favorite Australian food?
It doesn't even have to be discontinued.
All right.
Cheers.
Let's go right to our Australian food expert.
Look at our fan base.
They look just like us.
I'm going to say sausage rolls is probably the best Australian meal.
Or like a meat pie.
but snack wise I'm a big fan of Smith's potato chips or shapes which are like crackers that come in different flavors
I call it fucking shapes I'll say that's like a brand shapes I don't have experience well Australian food outside of meat pie the French Canadian
how about how about fosters Australian for beer I do want to eat crow or kangaroo we should say for last
Monday's episode when I said that kangaroo tastes like chicken a lot of people shitting on me for that I want to say I was like 10 years old when I tried kangaroo I don't fuck remember what it's all right you're dead
wrong. All right. Let's keep it going here. Here's Andrew. Good morning, you beautiful degenerates.
Who are your top five Terminators? Meaning you can beat them on the scorecards, but no matter how
bloody and busted up, they are just going to keep coming. Andrew's list is Oleg, Taktaroff,
Robbie Lawler, Clay Guida, Diego Sanchez Korean Zombie. Thank you for all you do.
That's a great list, Luke. I'm going to add Darren Elkins and Nate the train in terms of modern
zombies. You know what I'm saying? You got to add them up there.
for sure.
The old one is a little bit.
Who?
Brian Barbarina?
Yes.
That applies.
I have to think about that because it's kind of a quick.
I mean, you can kill that zombie, but you know.
Yes, yes.
These are good choices by you.
Long Island, who else?
First of all, I had Elkins and Landre
ready to go.
BC nailed those.
I wrote Marvin Vittori just for his chat.
Like he'll just keep getting hit
the head coming. Is there a woman who's had like an insanely
amazing chin? Jessica Andrage. Just
she. Yeah, you're right. Even look at that.
She didn't stop my trucks before, but yes, yes. Even that
Yonna fight, she got her ass kicked royally for three and a half rounds and
then would not stop coming late and was like kind of landing and hit and
hurt and Yonna. Like she just walks, she walks through everything, Luke.
That's fair. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. All right.
Speaking of timing, I want to tell you about right now, because right now,
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Please drink responsibly.
And speaking of Cuervo, programming notes, Monday, this coming Monday, what is that,
December 1st, Monday, in studio, 11 a.m. Eastern, Metal Arc, Morning Combat, UFC
323, pregame preview, LTBC Jed meshu, numeral dose.
We're going to get down with the Blanco, Luke, if you know what I'm saying.
We're going to get after it, Cuervo style, setting the stage for all things.
UFC 323, then we'll be back on Friday with a remote show.
We'll follow up on what happened in the week on 323.
We'll get you set up, by the way, for that BBC pay-per-view coming up in San Antonio.
We'll have Chris Algeria on the show as well.
So a fun week coming up, and don't forget Monday for Cuervo, let's go.
Jed, B, C, LT.
We're going to get after it.
Luke, you're going to get after it, all right?
Great stuff.
All right.
Let's keep the fun going.
Here's Whitehead.
Whitehead, on Black Friday, let's hear from Whitehead.
Here at the ESPN offices, where Brian Campbell has been caught doing whippets in the back,
eating out of the sink, just generally being a nuisance to the public.
Nonetheless, my question is, would you rather have a Joan Jones son or a Rhonda rousey daughter?
First of all, Whitehead, is he reporting from the Bristol mothership?
I don't know this gentleman, but my reputation there still precedes itself.
Luke, is he asking, would you rather have John Jones as a son or Ronda Rousey as a daughter?
I think that's what he's saying.
And I think how could the answer be anything other than Ronda Rousey is the choice here?
I mean, we are all flawed.
We are all flawed.
But then there are some flaws that appear to be much worse than others.
I'll take Ronda's flaws.
Looks like, let me be Hapa's father-in-law.
Let me do that.
I like Travis Brown
I never had an issue
Yeah
Yeah
They used to call him
To your friend
But outside of that
I never had an issue with him
You know
All right
I'm happy for you BC
With what
Your friend
Your friendship
Or whatever the fuck
Your friend Shob
Yes he did bad things
No talking to fucking Travis Brown
Oh yeah
I like I never had a problem
With Travis Brown
It's Honda Howsy
Who I'm like
Yeah
All right
There you go
Yeah, Travis seems a cool guy for the most part.
Thank you, Whitehead, for the question.
Let's go over to Barry.
With 2025 coming to an end, who are some fighters?
You can see making big moves up the rankings in 2026.
Luke, what about Featherweight Steve Garcia?
I mean, he's already made a big move.
This is where the movement gets even harder, so I don't know.
Okay.
Josh Van could really be the APEC example of this
Where he goes from, you know, outside of the top 15
And one year and then to the champion in the next
That'd be pretty big.
That'd be pretty big.
I'm trying to think at Bantam weight.
No, because Marab's mostly cleaned that out.
45 seems like you got some real movers and shakers in there.
55, dude, Sauru Kian, I mean, he's kind of been hanging around the top for a long time.
I don't think these guys really fit that question.
question. Isn't he really kind of asking who like maybe right now is at the end of the top 15
rankings or not rank that we think will just arrive on the scene?
Let me, you know what? To facilitate this conversation, let me put the rankings up and I can
give you a better answer. He's saying who's going to make big moves up the ranking. So it wouldn't
necessarily be somebody like. David Martinez at 135. That's a guy you should watch. He's very
talented. I like his game a lot. Still got a lot of issues, but I look at him and I'm like he's
got big potential. BC, I wouldn't
write off Jayon Silva
at 11. He's got that fight with Arnold Allen coming
up, but I know he fell short against Diego Lopez, but
there's still some time to iron
that out. I think
Gabriel Bonefeme is moving at
Welterweight, so that's a good guy to watch.
He's moving. Yeah, he's on his way. He's on his way, but there's a lot
of elderly ones in that division.
We're both going to say Gabel Steveson,
because he's probably going to make his UFC debut
soon and will be a factor
quick, but what about Volta Walker?
Walter Walker might move up.
it's possible
there you go all right
what about the guy who just called out
Walter Walker uh
Hokit
he's unranked right now
also Fatima Klein
Fatima Klein's sitting at 12
I think she's going to end the
the year higher than 12 for sure
I agree with you on Josh Hokka
I think he'll get a big push
he's got quick hands he seems to be a good athlete
he's cringe but they don't they don't mind that
so he's going to rise there as well
don't don't sleep on Yaroslav
Amoslav, who's coming in here.
He could end up being a player.
I mean, the Belator guys have not done great lately,
but he could end up being a player in that regard.
I mean, what about somebody like Macy Barber,
who is ranked five, but we're like
she's forgotten about because of the injuries.
And also, like, she's just inconsistent.
Like, even when she performs well, she'll have a health
issue or, you know, and I don't wish it upon her, obviously,
but it's hard to get too excited until it feels like
that's resolved. All right. And then,
as Long Island, Luke, let us know. Amosov will be making that debut against Neil Magny.
Love that fight. Very good fight. We'll see that. All right, let's keep the fun going.
Here's our guy Joe at Rundem Cheeks with a question.
Hey there, Jens. Run Dem Cheeks 1775 here.
Got a question for you guys. If you had to pick an MMA fighter to give you a tour of their
home country, who would it be and what would the country be? For example, a tour of Scotland
from Paul Craig.
By the way, you guys ever heard?
heard of what
did you say jerk me
dude he's shout it to joe by the way
uh at former marine luke former marine um he's wearing the bomber jacket in the hot tub
which is great getting it well the best i love that jacket by the way that jacket's great
yeah well done uh his question i would say i know almost nothing about
the the country georgia not the state i know enough about that state i'd
like if Marab could show
me around Georgia. Maybe we'll get, she loves
the gloves out there, too, to tell
hell yeah. That would be one
answer. I know you're probably
not going to pick Chameh and
the Chechnya region of Russia, especially
with John Jones living there now.
No, it seems real dangerous to do that.
I mean, what about like
Long Island Luke wants Johnny Walker
at Ireland? I think it was Scotland.
He was banging everyone in Scotland. He did bang
all through Scotland. Where else we think
in here, Luke, somebody that would be like an ambassador
for that country, and it would be awesome.
You know, they said Nina drama. Now,
you have a veritable pick of anyone you want,
but you could do starting with Rio,
Jose Alto to Brazil.
You know what I mean? I've never been to Brazil. I really,
really, really want to go. I'd like to roll with
the King of Heo if that happened.
Because, you know, whenever they send a fighter
with UFC cameras abroad, they always send
Nina Drama with them. Like, what if they
sent us instead? What if they send us to
Argentina to hang out with Eileen
Perez? Dude, that'd be.
actually that's my pick right there Fiona that's my pick right there okay mk in your house Fiona
i'm dying i could have gone to argentina uh for Halloween uh because xFC had a showdown there but
i missed last Halloween because my dog was dying and i couldn't miss it two years in a row so
i had to decline okay what about prohatska in in uh the check republic i've been to the check
republic but i certainly would be a game to go see his village with two guys hanging out in his room
you know yep yep drinking in the bars he'll be a hero i mean that's these are
are good picks, Luke.
Yeah.
I would like to see
another place I've never been is, you know,
Northern Ireland with Paul Hughes.
I'd love to go to Belfast.
Oh, I like that idea.
Go to check that place out, you know?
Now, would you take Joshua Van and go to
Myanmar?
I try to go a place a little more stable.
Okay, okay, okay.
You know, how about, how about Japan
with Kioji Horaguchi? That'd be sick, you know.
All right, all right.
Do you want to go to Japan?
I just said I'm down for that.
you kind of hemmed in hall you went like this you went well i was trying i had a pavel
chefchenko joke in the cylinder but i was like i don't think it's up to par so i'll just leave
that out oh that's awesome yeah all right uh let's hear from michael hey says big fan fellas
look what are your top three favorite bc skits and bits that he revisits all of the time
bc what are your top three lukeisms keep up the good work look we already know that sheite is
your least favorite uh like men do would be your second least favorite but what are what are your
favorite bc's skits and bits like specifically anti-shob jokes no no just like what recurring jokes
or bits or whatever that that i do so one of the ones i love and hate the most simultaneously is
like you know study abroad i just met her or whatever some bullshit like that you know that's one
those are the old guy jokes that populated my childhood just so people know right yeah
And then I'll say something like vitality.
And you'll imagine that I said vitology.
And then you'll then you'll shoehorn in a great Pearl Jam album.
Like you'll do that kind of stuff like great Pearl Jam album, great radio head song.
Great, you know, kind of thing like that.
That's another one you do.
And then the last one is probably the crying and masturbating you do at the bus stop.
That's really the thing.
Okay.
That makes no sense.
Yeah, thank you.
Long Island, look, let's give Luke some flowers here.
I mean, he's got some good bits here.
You know what I mean?
what do you think about him sending me
the 3 a.m. flatulence over the audio
text. No. I saw on Luke's
live chat. Someone was like, oh, can we add
Luke's fucking flatuance to the
MK Soundboard? And I was like
absolutely, I wrote in your chat, Luke. I was like,
absolutely not. I'm not adding that.
I just like when Luke uses this like random big
words that just don't make sense and it's just
kind of like derail. Don't make sense to a non-reader
perhaps. Yeah, that's that's more.
of my favorite bits to be quite candid with you uh the one's trying to make is the upper bound
limits uh you're i get a lot of shit for your mileage may vary too your mileage may vary yes yes
there what's that word you oh the temerity temerity will always be my favorite luke thomas bit
you like in totality yeah how tamara of me to bring that up all right let's keep the fun going
here uh carl has a video for us hey there everyone carl tuning in here from a very cold northeast of
England. First and foremost, I want to say a big thank you to the job that Luke and Brian have done
over these past six years. I've fallen morning combat pretty much since day one. So the opportunity
to be part of the Thanksgiving Q&A is one I would really appreciate. With that being said,
my question is this. If you were to put Prime Rhonda Rousey in the modern women's band and weight
division, how highly do you think she would be racked? I personally think that the current version
of the division hasn't evolved all that much
and I still think Ronda
had the traits to still
challenge a lot of the people in that top
five, someone like a
Juliana Pena, a Raquel Pennington,
that kind of ilk. I'm going to put that
to you guys. Once again, I want to say
thank you so much for having me on
and a happy Thanksgiving to
everyone from over here in the UK.
Dude, shout out to
Carl. First of all, badass
Tendo Bizpink 2 poster behind him.
I mean, thank you for showing us the love right there.
I also think that's a good question.
So, Luke, he's saying Prime Rhonda, so before the chin and, you know,
her self-reported CTE issues have really taken over, maybe short of Amanda and Kayla,
do you think Prime Rhonda is still a problem for every 135 are out there today?
So let's pull up the rankings because I actually feel like she would still be highly ranked.
I mean, one thing you have to remember, this may not sound right, but it's true.
And everyone's like, oh, Rhonda fell apart so quick.
But one thing that I've, because she had two losses and then just left the sport, right?
Sure.
But one thing that I feel like the home fight, it kind of exposed and, you know, what was true in her career was, you got to remember, like, Rhonda was not as good at fighting as some of the other women, but was a A plus level athlete.
I talked to D.C. about this once.
He was like, you know, she was a lifelong athlete.
Just a very different kind of person when they're internationally competitive, you know, from a very, very young age.
they can do much more with their body and they're much more capable.
And that's really true.
And she had this aggressive style of submissions, right?
You see where she would clinch up with you, throw you,
and then she's immediately in transition launching into a submission.
That is still going to get you a bunch of wins in the modern women's 135-pound division.
Like, can it take her all the way to where it took her before BC if we were starting fresh?
No, I don't know that it would necessarily, but it would go very far.
So here's the top 10 currently in that.
division bc miranda maverick do i think that a modern rousey could subber i
there's no question in my mind you know karine a sylva i don't know tracy cortez probably jazz
de vizzias yes namayunis yes barbara yes blanchefield probably blancheville probably
brosso bust through and strikes with her and beats her i'm not saying that they wouldn't
also win but i'm saying could i imagine her just overwhelming them very quickly yes
grasso sylva and then fioro probably the buck stops there because she's got a really strong judo
and a good long jab row is 125 we're talking about oh sir what am i doing look at the wrong division
I'm so sorry.
I apologize.
Jacqueline Calvacanti, yes.
Carol Hosa, again to be a little more difficult.
Eileen Perez, yes, Macy Chazahn.
Sheizon, excuse me, probably.
Irene, Idena, Aldana, maybe.
She's got a good long jab, good footwork, a little harder to say.
Yonisanto, same.
But, you know, Raquel Pennington up at two.
Do I think Rhonda could sub her out?
Like, again, I'm not saying that there wouldn't be a whirlworth.
They fought 10 times.
Raquel doesn't win seven of them.
But that was the whole point about what Rousey was doing.
Rousey was just overwhelming before anyone had a second to adjust because that style of attack,
which came from judo was so unusual at the time and I still think it would be vital.
I would say of the top 10 BC, she could still get what, three or four wins?
Maybe even five.
This division has not evolved at all.
The fact that Pennington and Buenos Silva fought for that title when both were just like kick punch, kick punch gas out.
I mean, it was like so basic of where we are.
I don't disagree with that.
Luke, one of my other favorite bits are, legitimately, one of my favorite bits is when, when you, you know, it's a priority for you to get the pronunciation of the Hispanic or Spanish-based fighters, correct?
And I love when Mrs. Thomas sends you the voice note and then you play it out.
So it's like, we, you know, we head to that.
And then, you know, conversely, the white skin folks, you're like, yeah, fuck them.
That's my favorite.
Fuck them.
Fuck them.
All right.
All right.
Two more and then we're out of here quickly.
Taylor B, what are the best and worst parts about growing older?
I watched a mailbag episode from two years ago,
and you both looked much happier and healthier.
Well,
we were getting paid a lot more.
So I imagine there's more bad parts than good parts.
In MK history,
when we are the fattest is when we are the most well-paid and happiest.
Basically, yes.
But, look, there's a lot of bad.
One of the bads at 47 for me is that a lot of mornings,
to get out of bed,
I have to, like, activate my lower back,
my hip and my upper ass area.
that just randomly are so stiff
that I can't even roll over without pain.
That part sucks.
That part sucks a lot.
What's the good part?
I would say wisdom.
I would say that even though I still,
you know,
I still struggle with anxiety and depression
and I'm fighting the good fight.
Overall, I just like,
you know, you've been through enough battles in your life
and you've come out the other end.
You, you know, whether you're putting your faith in something solid
or you just believe you can bounce back it's never easy going through a trial but the accumulation
of like i've been through this before or i've been through worse or you know when you're 23
and the world ends you it's a lot easier to fall apart right like but with the mental maturity
of having gone through stuff and knowing that that life is cyclical that we go through tests
but that you know this isn't the end i i don't know it helps me a lot luke i don't know about you
I mean, good parts.
Wisdom is a complicated one because, yes, you have seen enough things in life by the time you've done two 20-year rotations on this earth that patterns repeat and you're able to avoid certainly some of the worst mistakes and recognize the time for change.
Like that's real.
But BC, one thing that's been really difficult for me, and it's better now.
But, you know, getting older and getting more, getting wiser about the world also means
getting wiser about understanding who you actually are.
Yeah.
And some of the bullshit you've been telling yourself for so long that just comes unraveled
as you get older.
And then it becomes a little bit hard to be like, okay, well, then what does that mean
that that's this thing I've been saying about myself, either positively or negatively,
actually, isn't true.
And then you have to kind of figure out how to move forward from there.
that is that is actually way more challenging than any other part of aging because the physical part yeah it sucks but honestly man if you stay moving around if you stay to a routine you don't have to go crazy deep squats push pull hinge lift throw walk around you'll basically be okay for the most part you'll have a good life you know it's the honestly i think the biggest battle with aging is you have this long worldview the worldview i have
in my teens was pretty close to the one I had in my 20s was pretty close to the one I had in
my 30s the one I have now is pretty different and getting to that position and all the things
that fall apart as a consequence and then you have to understand the world in very different terms
that has been really really hard I think okay okay that is interesting I would say also too
I don't know if this relates to you Luke like I feel like if I can go back and redo my 20s
with the confidence and belief in myself that I have now that I could accomplish anything.
So I feel like as I get older, I don't know, I get out of my own way more, which means I have
much more self confidence and belief in myself and it really fuels you to do almost anything you
want. I also feel like wisdom brings the opposite problem. Oh, really? I feel like wisdom brings the
ability to really enjoy the simple things in life, so much more. I mean, what's one of the best
parts about getting older seeing your kids grow i can't wait to be a grandfather to be to be honest with you
my wife's always like slow your role here let's let the kids grow i'm not looking for them to knock
anybody up i'm just saying that those are some of the joys that i can't wait to see i appreciate
when i'm outside at midnight taking the dogs out to crap and i look up at the sky and see you know
a full moon and it's just beautiful things like that that i would have ran past and didn't you know
wouldn't have noticed in the past maybe also it's a rejection of all this technology that's
our brain and taking over that it it's easier i don't have reading stamina anymore but i can put on
a record and just you know be enthralled through the headphones look there's some of those simplistic
natures that i i i like with growing old but the physical part does suck pretty bad luke you know what i'm
it does i mean i would say less on this i've become much more in touch with my own limits and i
think that has affected my confidence to be perfectly honest with you um my confidence used to be
much easier and more
sturdy.
It's not as sturdy as it once was
for sure. Hey, Luke, there are
no limits.
Brother, I wish that was true.
It is. You,
if you're a man in a box, it's because
that box was put around, you put it around
yourself. That could be true too. That could be true too. I can, I can, I can
believe that. Right, we believe in you.
Final one is a video question. This is David S.
Sending for Austin of JBR.
Does that mean Sandine?
Dave Sandine?
I don't know.
Let's walk.
Shout out to morning.
I'm three fucking deep.
This Monday.
thanksgiving i hope you and your families have a wonderful holiday weekend as well as the rest of the
holiday season that being said l t bc what are your predictions and three each for the first year of
paramount plus and the ufc also shout out to the jvr crew and this
This is your boy, no special.
Fuck you.
Let's get this shit.
So, look, that's Austin, I believe, of JBR.
I'm not really sure, but that's what the paper said.
It was three sheets to the wind.
He was.
Thank you for that.
Luke, what are your three, is he asking hopes, predictions for the paramount?
Like, just what will change, I think.
Okay.
That's Austin, a.k.a. no special.
Thank you, Austin.
Can I just tell you, I don't have proof of this.
I'm just kind of kind of figure this out.
I think that the move away from pay-per-view will be very well received and will lead to a modest but real bump in interest in MMA and potential viewership, certainly around the bigger events.
Like, I definitely think that they're going to look at that and say, we made the right call.
However, I do not believe it will be transformative.
I do not believe this will return us to 2016 or something like that.
I just don't think that's realistic.
That's one.
to I think gable steveson is this the first year first year we said yeah first year yeah so
then I'll hold that one because I was going to say he's going to become champion but that's probably
2027 so I'll hold on to that one um um I'm going to make mama a coverage fun again look because
I'm going to be at I'm going to be there I'm going to be on the road I will tell you this bc I think
after ufc white house is going to be an interesting moment where I wonder if the ufc will dial down a little
bit. Some of the political messaging and or currency that they've engaged in. I actually feel like
that might blow up in their face a little bit. So that's two. And I think for the sport itself,
BC, I don't think we're going to have many American champs in 2026. I do believe that.
And I think my prediction is it's going to be a lot of what you got already. It's going to be
international MMA running the show. I hope. And I'll just give you one because I hope they play up
personalities, rivalries, and matchups over what the ESPN era became,
which was just about content filling, farming out the factory.
So I hope that, you know, whatever rivalries they identify,
whether it's Elia versus Patty or what have you,
that they fuel those, that they really make this shit seem big again,
that there's stars that are identified.
I think you do that and you spray that to the masses,
you're going to get a bump, you're going to get a buzz,
you're going to get an improvement in the sport will feel hot again.
So that's ultimately my hope slash prediction there.
Thank you, Austin, for sending it.
And thank you to all the people.
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