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Episode Date: November 25, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:58 after thanksgiving black friday uh probably still full in effect for those that celebrate that. This is Brian Campbell. That's Luke Thomas. We did pre-record this. So in the space time continuum, I have yet to have my turkey and cheap cranberry out of the can, which is really the only way to have it. But we've debated that up and down. This is Morning Combat, your only multi-award winning combat sports show that's trying its best to take over your personal life.
Starting point is 00:01:28 BC here, LT there. Luke Thomas, welcome into this holiday edition. Is your heart filled with holiday joy just as we record this a couple days out from my favorite holiday, brother? Is my heart filled with joy for a few days off? Yes. Yes. Okay. One can accept yes okay one can accept that one can accept that um happy holidays to you and yours luke uh we thank all of our great people mikey moore and all our fantastic uh producer from cbs sports all the great folks at malta showtime that helped make this show possible but most importantly you the viewer this is about us
Starting point is 00:02:04 giving thanks back to you we solicited out questions to our email address, to our Twitter accounts. So that's what we're going to do. We're going to play with the bag, have a little fun with it, inflate it a little bit. I'm sure at our age, Luke, we can use that inflation. That's the kind of inflation we need right now, right? The only inflation that really serves serves us uh personally yes yes yes all right uh luke do we have to sell any we don't have to sell any ads right i mean no i think people know the drill i mean just to make sure we pump the email right morning combat at gmail.com for to reach the show for anything else y'all know showtime.com all that good stuff but yeah all those people that pay us and you know we got great holiday merch too for black friday today all right so head on over yeah good point yes morning
Starting point is 00:02:48 combat store morning combat dot store if you didn't get in put your email address on that home page you can get the black friday savings coming your way all right this one is about the people luke you know it's my favorite holiday you think it's a little bit overrated i don't know me i mean you did grow up in a high school that had a big football tradition, but the Thanksgiving thing didn't catch you. I mean, it didn't bite into you. The thing is, my family likes Thanksgiving more than any other holiday. I do like Thanksgiving more than many holidays to be quite clear about it. Thanksgiving was fun in college where you'd been gone for a while and then everyone went home and everyone kind of checked in on how everyone else was doing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And then everyone goes out on the nights that you had off or whatever. But, but like, I gotta be honest, man, just pound for pound. Christmas is hard to beat for me and for my, and my, my wife's family too. Like Christmas is huge where she's from. And yeah, I mean, it's just a little bit different. Christmas is like the New York Yankees of holidays. It's really's really hard to you know it's a chip away at it from a whether you're celebrating the christ side of it or you just want to be with your family and make everybody happy and open gifts and once you have kids obviously that brings back the kid in you in so many ways
Starting point is 00:03:57 so i can appreciate that but you know you mentioned everybody comes back that's always been a huge part of thanksgiving it's not just the meal family time the high school football game against ansonia we're taking those chargers down this year i just know it and it's like you know i was that guy luke who didn't get to go away to college so thanksgiving weekend and the night before that wednesday night which where i come from it's a holiday called valley new year fantastic luke you know everybody comes back all the people that think they're too good know, everybody comes back. All the people that think they're too good for their hometown comes back and fills up the crappy local bars. Dude, that was an event from ages like age like 19 to like 26. Dude, that was an event, right? 26? No, I didn't participate that long. You hung around. You were a gross townie, it turns out.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah, well, my town is full of townies. It So, like, you know, you're not really all that gross at that age. But, I mean, you could at least relate to that, Luke, right? Yes, yes. In Valdosta when all your ex-girlfriends. Marietta, I would go back. My brother graduated from Valdosta High School, but then we moved, and then I went to Marietta High School for my sophomore, junior year. So I would go back to Marietta for a few years.
Starting point is 00:05:00 That's what I did. All right. You and I have debated now, what, three years into this show? Many times our love for Thanksgiving and our favorite side dishes and all that but let's hit off our first question from daz rikio we do have to remember not everybody's a p1 here they may be late to the party so luke refresh their memory question number one here what is your number one thanksgiving dish or food and conversely what is your least favorite and also what would you replace your least favorite with?
Starting point is 00:05:26 It does not have to be a Thanksgiving food, according to Daz. So it's a three-part question regarding the centerpiece on Thursday. Luke, speak to your life, please. All right. So, okay. So here's where I'm lucky. Remember, my brother and my sister used to own a restaurant together. They sold it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 They got out of the business. But they had a successful one for about 15 years. I had a nice one going. Luckily they closed it right before the pandemic hit. So all's well that ends well. But the point I bring that up to say is that I'm very lucky and I'm very spoiled because my family can cook in ways that I'm just going to say most families cannot. I think it's a pretty fair way to put it. So I normally never have to worry about things I don't like. In terms of things I like, my number one go-to, dude, I'm a mac and cheese guy. I just, it's not- That's a Thanksgiving tradition? Is you serious? Let me say, it's not necessarily the centerpiece. I get that. I get that. You can't plan a meal around mac and cheese. I get that.
Starting point is 00:06:28 But I just feel like pound for pound, every bite of that mac and cheese, if it's done correctly, it just delivers in the most impressive of ways. If we're talking about centerpieces, I'm going to go back to, I think, an old answer, which is if you've never had, and I'm going to put a caveat here, properly cooked fried turkey. Fried turkey. If you've never had fried turkey. Let me do an impression of you from our first year of it. What? You never had fried turkey?
Starting point is 00:06:58 What? Dude, once you've had fried turkey, you realize that everyone else has been fucking with your life for as long as you existed. It's not even they're not even on the same ballpark of deliciousness. So that would be my centerpiece. Obviously, some good gravy on top of it really drives that home. That's going to be my answer for that. But of course, just pound for pound, it's going to be mac and cheese things I would not want to eat. I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Before you transition, let me ask you this. Okay. Because where you're putting Mac and cheese right now is like not the centerpiece, but maybe the MVP that keeps it all together. To me, that's stuffing. I will not have a bite that doesn't have stuffing and cranberry in that bite. Are you like me where you'll mesh everything on the plate, but every bite's got to have a little representation of each area. Sometimes, but stuffing is for peasants. Cranberry sauce is for peasants just
Starting point is 00:07:46 don't not both of those are trash but i will say this i'd eat both of those before i eat someone's brussels sprouts fucking whatever just a just a low class food for raccoons i mean can we just be honest about that that's just garbage food it doesn't taste oh but we blanch ours and we fry ours yeah you gotta blanch and fry that thing into oblivion yeah it tastes like shit it's like anything yeah it's gross it's gross so that's my answer to get the fuck out of there with that one all right great um well let me just hit you first i've said it before my number one the dish or food like i'm not a turkey guy i'll put a little bit on my plate but the centerpiece for me is the meat pie luke and i've realized i've come to learn
Starting point is 00:08:24 that that's a french canadian tradition from my going back is that like shepherd's pie quebecian and vermont uh people so it's it's a crusted pie that has what looks to be ground beef seasoned shepherd's pie shepherd's pie has like mashed potatoes and vegetables. Meat pie basically has pork, beef and chicken kind of mixed together with some heavy sweet seasonings and that perfectly crispy crust. It's not too far from shepherd's pie, but it's something completely different. And once you've had it, like my wife never grew up with it, tried it once and was like, this is the most disgusting thing ever. But if you've had it, if it's in your blood, if you're a Quebecois, you that shit okay but what's my least favorite i'd
Starting point is 00:09:08 have to go yams or turnip you know yeah i'm not a big yams or turnip guy either no yeah my buddy's iranian this isn't so much like uh thanksgiving related they just eat it all the time his family would take radishes and then just eat it like an apple that's weird i'd be like dude that's the most insane thing i've ever seen in my life i know there's people that do that with onions lemons uh that's you know i mean you know whatever if that's yeah jeffrey dalmer and co that's right yeah yeah for sure uh they say what would you replace it with i want to give this answer because i go to uncle shout out to uncle tony campbell i go to his every year on thanksgiving and aunt cheryl makes a lasagna because one of her kids doesn't eat the traditional Thanksgiving. So lasagna, by the way, is my favorite food of all
Starting point is 00:09:48 time. So when I am able to replace whatever I don't want already on the Thanksgiving plate with lasagna, you got, you got a happy BC right here. Do you have any weird replacements? I see again, I don't really ever have to, because we don't ever eat. I I'm, I'm very lucky. We don't ever eat poorly with that i will say if that like if i'm at someone else's house and i got to do some replacements i don't mind a little green bean crack casserole little green bean casseroles all right man you can do something with that you know yeah i'm into that my mom made a great one of that but you know the three f's is always what defines thanksgiving to me food family and football you know it's going
Starting point is 00:10:24 to the game Thanksgiving morning and hoping you can finally get World Cup this time. Yep. And then, of course, the trio of NFL games after. And don't forget, Luke, along with the video game tournaments, the backyard family football game every year is it's just it's a standard, Luke. And it's competitive as heck, even though there's a good mixture of young kids, old people.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And, you know, it's I mean, you know, I've had some serious and who could forget the bloody toe game, Luke, from 04 when i rallied us back in the second half i mean you and kurt ceiling yeah yeah that's about it yeah shout out to snarky head ginger she'll appreciate that one all right let's keep this show rolling here we got a well big variety of questions here mikey i'm just going to shout out what i like here and you can adjust but uh here we go let's go over to uh warton blake He has a question related to combat that's aimed at you, Luke. He says, at what weights would you set the weight classes in MMA, adding or taking away any divisions as you please? They have the same question for me on boxing, but I want to stay on MMA because you
Starting point is 00:11:21 and I have debated this through the years where you want more weight classes i come from boxing where there's 17 and it sucks the horn i want less weight classes but what would the amendments you would make right now to to improve the sport if you could by adjusting the weight class i wouldn't make a ton of change i wouldn't make a ton of change because i get the point especially as you get higher in the weight the fighters start sucking more and so you want to make some constraints around who gets invited to that party by virtue of that so what i would say is on the women's side it already exists but i think we need to think about straw weight we have straw weight i'm sorry adam weight at 105 i think that's a burgeoning weight class that's eventually going to make its way to the ufc so i
Starting point is 00:12:01 would add that that's one eventually comes out of retirement, Luke to to fight in her preferred division. That's right. That's right. Adam White. Does she come out of retirement? Oh, for Adam White? Yeah. No, she's past 40. Like it's too late. It's too late. Yeah, I think she's approaching 40. That's what I think. I think she's 40. She'll be 40 soon. Anyway, on the men's side, it's I wouldn't change much. You got 125, 135, 145, 155. Then that's where I change. Then I go 165, 175, 185, and then 205, and then heavyweight. So the only real change I'm making is I'm not doing the 15-pound jump between lightweight and welter.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I'm making it still 10, then bumping welter up five more pounds, and then making that allotment therein. All right. I mean, I get that if you go 10, 10, 10, and then suddenly you have this bigger gap, it's, it's inevitably going to not be fair to certain guys who are sort of in the middle, but you know, that's sort of how it works. You know, you either, you either want to go crazy and have a million weight. I mean, we have 17 of boxing and they try, they're trying to add Bridger weight, which is just an unnecessary 18. I'll never forget when we sat down with Hasim Rockman. I'm like, what's your goals in the sport? He's like, yo, I'm trying to be the Bridger weight champ. I'm like, wow, that's a red flag,
Starting point is 00:13:09 buddy. That's red flag territory. Greg Hardy's going to have going to send you to hell one day for that. Oh, wait, he just did last weekend. All right. Look, my question on, on that it's, this could be for boxing or heavyweight, which is why the Bridger weight came about. So in specifically in MMA, it seems that that heavyweight cut limit of 265, which I think every other promotion, as far as I can remember, has also adopted has been to eliminate that early UFC vision of like little guy fighting fat guy. Right. But that was back when there were no weight classes anyway. Do you think that stands for many years to come where, you know, I don't know if it's Dana. What is this? Some great big fat person. Uh, you know, I don't know if it's Dana. What is this?
Starting point is 00:13:46 Some great big fat person? You know, yeah, there's a lot of great big fat persons who can still fight. This seems discriminatory against the big bone folks. Will this stand forever? You think? Well, some commissions have an allowance for super heavyweight. I've seen it. You can fight super heavyweight where you can fight into the threes.
Starting point is 00:14:10 If they wanted to add that on occasion, getting commission approval or whatever then fine but otherwise i think the 265 limit basically serves a pretty legitimate and helpful function okay don't you yes i mean i want yes yes but it's i don't know you wouldn't it's not just hey what if we have one amazing 320 ponder that has nowhere else to go but you would need to be able to fill out a division i mean look at the i mean look at the remember i've talked i've talked to matchmakers before in order to make a division work they need at least at least 20 people yeah 20 people to make a division work as we found out with women's featherweight for example uh it's just not it's just not there it's just not there but i've seen like i've seen i've seen in hawaii for example they've had um like when icon and sport and um super brawl used to exist these are like precursors to you know uh well actually
Starting point is 00:14:56 some of them were post rumble on the rock but they had uh they had super heavyweight classes and it worked there you go all right let's go over to the apathetic Lawler. I don't know if he's talking about Robbie here, but he's got a question. They said, if Dana told you to make a fight that had the possibility to sell 2 million or more pay-per-view buys, what would it be? And they want one answer for active fighters only. And one that potentially could include retired ones coming back out of retirement. And they threw out a couple suggestions. Do you want the suggestions or do you just want to field this?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Let me hear the suggestions. Conor versus Islam. Conor Habib 2. Or Habib versus Islam. All right, apathetic lawler. Good luck on that one. But your thoughts on what, I I mean we've had this debate regarding John Jones and Francis Ngannou I say it's the biggest fight UFC can make for the heavyweight
Starting point is 00:15:49 title put it in Raiders Stadium we do have people saying hey guys neither one has been you know John had been a consistent pay-per-view draw never spectacular but consistent Lawler has a very small footprint in the pay-per-view space overall to be or or I'm sorry, and Gano does to be fair, not Lawler. Do you think though, that that fight is in this conversation that if promoted, right? If, I mean, if there's everything you'd want that could fuel it, that it could get to 2 million or am I crazy? You're crazy. But let me ask you this question and you're going to say, Oh no,
Starting point is 00:16:19 they wouldn't allow it because he's too old, but the Nevada commission will allow just about anything i mean let's just be honest about that like they're not a great commission okay um what if the ufc finally convinced and found a way to get it sanctioned i'm not doing a bit here think about this for a second what if the ufc got mike tyson to make his mma debut right wow right it. Right? It's not, it's crazy. It's crazy. But it's not the craziest thing when you really begin to think about how he's still in shape. He just had this exhibition not too long ago against Roy Jones Jr.
Starting point is 00:16:54 They would probably give him some other kind of very beatable opponent. Well, forget about saying beatable opponent. How about if I insert a Paul brother? What does that do to your scenario? I mean, that would definitely put, I mean, wouldn't that be over two million buys it would be over two million buys wouldn't it like whether you like again this is not a question of do you like the fight or is it a good fight just that it sells two million buys mike tyson making his pro debut in in the ufc and mma by the way, alone might do it, although probably not.
Starting point is 00:17:25 But then this kind of other component probably puts it over the edge, yeah. I mean, I think Mike Tyson, which when he came back and fought Roy Jones a couple years ago, it was the biggest surprise I ever thought would happen. I thought if anybody was done, it was that guy because he understood so much about what went wrong and keeping that demon inside of him that comes out and fights crazy, but he pulled it off. He was in great shape. It was insane. But that casual audience that both MMA and boxing promoters are always,
Starting point is 00:17:55 you know, dreaming of cashing into the kind that get you to the 2.4 million for Connor Habib or the 4.4 million buys for uh for what was that uh was that manny pacquiao wait yeah yeah and also uh connor uh versus floyd did in that area as well 4.6 and 4.4 million which is just it's just ridiculous really it's just it's a ridiculous amount of buys mike tyson's fans meaning people who are now in their forties and fifties, but grew up with him as an absolute phenomenon. I mean, I almost think that audience is limitless if you can get them hooked. Now, just getting them hooked on the freak show, what would it look like thing, I think is a lot. I remember ahead of that Roy Jones fight, a lot of people from my past going, oh my God, are you into this fight?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Like, you know, I didn't even know they were into it. But that's the, dude, that's the last remaining dinosaur that can pull back everybody. You put him against a Paul brother, yeah, you're going to get two million buys, Luke. You're going to do it. All right, but current fighters, this is hard. I don't know. Like, someone asked me this question the other day, BC, which was, how would you grade the UFC's year? Now, you would not give it a bad grade.
Starting point is 00:19:08 It was a good year. In many ways, it was a good year. But they didn't have any truly blockbuster next level event. They didn't have any one million pay-per-view buy, holy shit, tear the house down, biggest thing in sports that weekend kind of moment. So, like part of that is not because the UFC are bad promoters. They're probably the best promoters in the game, but that there's just not a lot of available permutations that make that work. I guess you could say $2 million.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carano, does that get? I'll bet that gets $2 million. That would not get $2 million. That is the type of interesting sort of reach outside of the box that this question gives you that chance to do. But I do want to stay active fighters and say it like this. It's like part of the, I mean, it's part of the problem. I mean, look, first of all, when speaking of this year, if you would have told me ahead of time, Hey BC, John Jones and Conor McGregor will not compete this year. I would, I would have been surprised, right? So I would have thought that
Starting point is 00:20:06 they had those chances to do huge fights with both. And they would have been huge in any scenario for both. But when you look at it, you can lose too easily in this game. It's really hard to build long win streaks. And when somebody does kind of break through like Usman recently and builds a long win streak or Volkanovski, now it's not a guarantee that they're going to be a slam dunk, you know, mainstream American audience guarantee to buy. You know, you sometimes need that McGregor hook or just the greatness that Jon Jones had. And like we said, even with Jon Jones at the peak of his game,
Starting point is 00:20:38 he wasn't an overwhelming pay-per-view brand. I mean, you know, Luke, to be fair, neither was GSP or Anderson Silva. Like they came up and peaked for certain big fights but neither ever entered that floyd and manny level where no matter who they're fighting it's a million buys for a stretch remember that stretch like no matter who they're fighting just to see them just to see them now that's pre-developed stream illegal streaming and all that you know which wasn't as as prevalent as it is now okay but fighters that are still there, I don't know if you can make one without Connor, as much as I want Jones and Garner to be the biggest thing ever. You might still need Connor.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Now, Connor Habib too, if you could take him out of retirement, you know, even without Connor coming back and getting a win, nostalgically would get you a shit ton of buys. But how much do you think that idea that apathetic lawler threw out there, which I've thrown out and people hate to hear it, but if Islam can keep winning or forget if you can keep winning as soon as you can do it, Islam Mahachev versus Conor McGregor, which essentially is trying to play up 1 million percent on the Habib Conor rivalry. Does that actually reach something very large or does that just come out? It happens.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Conor gets dominated. And then it's like, okay, it did 1.2. That's pretty damn good, man. We don't see that too often. But that's not 2 million buys, you know? Yes. I think the latter is what you're talking about. It does well.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It matters. It's relevant. But it's not. Man, to sell 2 million pay-per-view buys i mean we're talking about what a handful in the history of the of combat sports of combat sports have ever sold that so i don't i don't i just don't think there's any i mean maybe i have a poverty of imagination but i don't think there's any fight between active fighters where you could reasonably get them you know because they're not too far apart in weight class that you get two million buys i don't think it exists right now all right i think uh there's one other one that is uh
Starting point is 00:22:29 my here's my best answer for you if you can't get habib and if you can't build up a conor islam rivalry quickly to be anywhere close to what the habib conor rivalry was what about one night only supervike conor versus gsp does that have the fuel and star power to do a shit ton i think if connor came back and looked good maybe maybe because you would be pulling on an older audience that you recommend you regularly remind me like the people that were diehard mma fans in 2008 9 10 a lot of those people aren't around anymore no most of them are gone. And then, by the way, folks watching now,
Starting point is 00:23:08 most of you will be gone in five years too. That's just how this sport goes. There it is. All right. We've said it. What is the biggest women's fight you can make? It's in MMA. It's Rousey-Corano, right? Still? Yes. I mean, obviously, Nunes versus Shevchenko
Starting point is 00:23:23 is an infinitely more quality fight right i wouldn't do them it wouldn't do the bars right no no it wouldn't it wouldn't all right let's see what else we got here let's get out of uh combat for a second luke and welcome in campbell parish my my brethren here my cousin cousin parish uh if you could wipe your memory by the way i get a lot of hate for my wakanda forever was awesome rant are you guys serious it was awesome like really is that because there was a lot of black people in it i mean was this our p1 jan 6 audience that has taken this year um if you could again in fairness the movie does seem like it's polarizing like people either come out with your view that it was like fucking
Starting point is 00:24:01 great yeah people come out being like man that was such a letdown and it doesn't it tends to go like my friend who told me he didn't like it that much he's black and he was like yeah it's not that good so i did i'm i'm i'm kidding everyone out there but quickly on wakanda i felt like i mentioned it yesterday or whenever we did i felt some like sort of like oh my god i'm a kid again in the theater and i've lost track of time and space but some of that is because it felt a little bit like episode four of star wars and i know that's a repeated pattern and trope in a lot of these fantasy movies superhero movies to try to mimic that that great storytelling and all that but there's a lot of that crossover and also the new villain is badass as shit so watch it for yourself i looked it up i think the rotten
Starting point is 00:24:46 tomatoes approval rating right now is like 84 so that means that's pretty good all right but look if you could wipe your memory and experience if you could wipe your memory standing up i mean that's the preferred way right i mean that's the only way to get it truly clean you know what i mean and i mean if you're four years old and experience watching a movie for the first time what movie would it be and why you know this answer is so fucking easy this answer is so an i mean if you're four years old and experience watching a movie for the first time what movie would it be and why you know this answer is so fucking easy this answer is so fucking actually you know what i have an answer and then like a and then like a uh and like a honorary uh mention uh so the answer is predator i mean whoa predator is like i just
Starting point is 00:25:21 can't overstate how okay where were you where were you the first time you saw what was the setting the age all that give me my dad this is true this is true so this must have been like 1989 or so 88 because the movie came out in 87 uh my dad had a copy of it on betamax you remember that shit you're done at betamax, dude? Dude, my dad, I mean, look who I am. Ultimate contrarian. You think my dad's going to buy VHS? And my dad's argument, which was correct at the time, which is, dude, most of the world uses Betamax,
Starting point is 00:25:54 which is true. Most of the world did. Most of the world drives on the other side of the road, Mr. Thomas, okay? I know, I know. Do you remember going to the video stores back in the mid to late 80s? And some places would have Betamax, and they had the giant containers
Starting point is 00:26:07 because the tapes were actually much bigger. It's like, hey, let's invent a disc that's really big, and it's so expensive, and no one's going to have it a month after it comes out. Yeah, let's call it later. All right. But the answer is that was the first R movie my dad ever let me watch, probably way too early.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I was like nine or so, maybe 10 at most, something like that. So I remember that, but i didn't fully appreciate it until i watched it like 20 times later over the course of the next couple of years and i was like holy shit this movie is just better than any of the movie i've ever fucking seen now granted that's from a 10 year old's perspective but even now like amc american movie classics will air that it's obviously gotten a lot of uh acclaim for being both like a sort of like action movie but it's also kind of like a slasher flick at the same time and science fiction and science fiction because this this this sort of like secret villain is killing everyone one by one so it's got
Starting point is 00:26:55 a lot of different levels to it it's peak schwarzenegger it's peak 80s it's peak machismo it's just fucking amazing i wish i could get the same first high so to speak that i got from it the first time but the honorable mention would be the matrix i remember watching that by myself one time that when i when i first went to see it i said my friends wanted to go to the movies it was right off campus and they couldn't go so i was like fuck it i'm just gonna go and i went i was like i gotta tell everyone about this movie um okay those are great answers man wow okay because predator you know i had a similar it was uh jeff heard's birthday party at his house we watched it in like 88 on vhs and
Starting point is 00:27:30 dude i was like scared during it because like you don't know you know now that you know everything you can look back and watch it a different way but when you didn't know who that monster was and it was like you know that was a pretty gnarly movie for fourth or fifth grade in terms of blood and stuff so yeah but you're right dude that like i was changed i was chilled after watching that that was intense man similar to matrix but if i if i asked myself like what you know theater experiences moved me the most it's like karate kid star you know i didn't see star wars episode four in the theater but it'd be hard not to pick that for the answer dude how about fight club was one too because i was so effed up while watching it in the theater that for like the next six hours i felt like i was in the movie still you know you ever have that i still haven't
Starting point is 00:28:13 seen it front to back really we've been over this don't you remember i've seen it i've seen every scene but out of order because i never sat down and watched it front to back yeah some people can you know have the big reveal happen and be like, oh, I saw that coming all along. I sometimes have a way of like just staying in line with the movie and that movie, like that was, that was a crazy ass movie. I mean, to be fair, people are going to, people are going to shit on this. Dude.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I was so fired up for Blair Witch movie. Do you remember how like the, the gorilla advertising campaign? I was at boot camp when it came out. I've never seen it. All right. So it, when we went to see it, because even though the internet is around then, it was like what, 97? Even though the internet's around, I didn't have the internet at home. Like it wasn't everywhere.
Starting point is 00:28:56 It wasn't like now, it wasn't on your phone. And I wasn't sure entering the theater, if this was a documentary or if this was a movie, like, you know, there was some of that because of the way they, they had real, they were really smart and how they promoted this movie to really leave questions. And I, and I went there that night and I was freaked out while watching it and I was moved. It's not a movie that you can rewatch a lot.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And there were a lot of people who were with me that night in the theater were like, man, this is the stupidest movie ever. I could predict it all. I saw it coming. I don't know. I got enveloped in that, dude. i think that's a brilliant ass movie i don't think people realize what it uh what it how different it was and how cool it was but luke my answer it's going to be half-baked because i have not laughed in a theater austin powers part two is
Starting point is 00:29:42 up there too in terms of just theater physical laughter dude half-baked was one of the greatest in movie experiences of all time i mean it was like that that humor was just so on time to be a dirtbag and be like 19 and be watching that in the theater it's just the hardest i've laughed in the theater uh was when i watched in this was in valdosta was when i watched dumb and dumber with my brother in the movie theaters. That was, I mean, piss your pants level of crying. Uh, it was truly one of the most joyous memories. So I might add, I might throw that, that, that log onto the fire as well. Uh, who do you think won that movie Lloyd Christmas or the other guy? I was always a Jim Carrey guy, but Jeff Daniels really is such a well-rounded and funny actor when he needs to be.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Dude, they were pretty equal, man. That movie doesn't work if they're not relatively equal, right? If it's one kind of shit on the other. Right? Kind of like M.J.? That's right. It has to be a certain level of balance one way or the other. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Wow. It took me a while. It took me a few documentaries to realize that, Luke. Okay. Yeahke okay yeah all right hey let's stay off combat for a second uh this is jesus 28 uh would you rather be able to play every instrument in the world really well or be fluent in every single language luke i feel like this is a question that would keep you up at night debating this is an easy answer Yeah. I'll take every language fluency. I knew you were going to take that absolute bullshit, Luke. Why? What do I need to play the drums and the fucking flute for? I don't give a shit. Do you realize if you were one of those geniuses,
Starting point is 00:31:19 and I know there's a lot of them, right? There's people that can just pick up any instrument. They know music so well. They can play it off their ear. They could just do anything with anything. They're brilliant. They are the geniuses of this world. My mind does not work that way. Dude, forget. I would trade the ability to speak for the ability to play every single instrument.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Awesome. Oh, I wouldn't. I wouldn't give $5 for that. I mean, low priority for me, dude. The level of I just can't explain to you man there this is the best way i can tell you someone who's like trying to struggle through a language when you begin to get a little bit of depth in that language it is unlocking a new world it doesn't feel that way it feels like well it's just saying the same things i would say in english
Starting point is 00:32:02 but it doesn't work that way language is is a passport to culture. Language is a passport to new relationships, new people, new identities, new places in ways that simply getting it translated for you, it doesn't give you access. Dude, like when I go down to Columbia and I'm with my wife's family, when I speak a little bit of Spanish, I just, it's hard to explain to you to really feel it. Doors open for you and they get and you get invited places and things. There's so much more access to things by virtue of having any kind of proficiency in language that is just mind-altering. And so to have the ability to speak Chinese, the ability to speak Japanese, the ability
Starting point is 00:32:42 to speak Arabic, these languages that cover vast swaths of human population, you would be unlocking access to people and cultures and histories and places that you just can't get without that language proficiency. You just can't get. Well, you gave the intelligent world culture answer. I gave the ignorant American living in his own bubble answer. But I think the root or the end game if you will in both of our answers involves having a superhuman ability to collect more punati so if jesus 28's question came with
Starting point is 00:33:14 a time machine and we could go back to like age 22 with this question which of us does better if i was 22 the answer would be instruments. That's what I'm saying. I still think even if you could go to any country and talk your way into a, into a session, Luke, I feel like I don't, I, the internet, I could just play the international language of love on guitar, Luke, and just, you know what I'm saying? You could, you could, if I was 22 and I was interested in just like showing off, showing off for people and trying to get as much, you know, of the sweet tang as possible, you know, being able to jam on the guitar is very valuable. But now that I'm older a little bit, man, I wish I could speak more languages.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I had some major life regret. I wish I could be in a band like the band where, you know, there's not one. Yeah, but like everybody could kind of play and sing and write me i want to be in one of those collectives where i could jump around on instrument i mean look i would man if i could just reinvent myself and maybe be born in like 1952 and come up in the 60s and 70s luke i you know what i would do i would just learn how to play every instrument and then i'd just bang and bell bombs. You know what I mean? Dude, half of MK revolves around us wishing we could be different people than we are.
Starting point is 00:34:32 So we could have fucked more chicks as we grew up. That's a generalization to be fair. Okay. That's not really the reality of the situation. All right. Let's go back into combat, Luke, because that's what we're the best in the world at. I've got a guy named Johnny Ruckus and he says Luke should judges score rounds nine nine if nothing of note happens I think what he really means to say 10 10 is what he seems to say yeah so Luke you know that I'm friends with some boxing judges that are very high profile and that they tell me they are just
Starting point is 00:35:02 heavily dissuaded from ever doing a 10-10 round by most state commissions, like heavily dissuaded. Like, I don't care if no one threw a punch. Pick a winner. In MMA, though, it's a little bit different. Would you feel a 10-10 round could help the sport rather than hurt it? When you say help, what does that mean well i mean that's why he's asking should should should more like we have to define the terms of help so does help mean that you finally have a scorecard that you feel like more accurately reflects what happened in the fight then i think a 10 10 is
Starting point is 00:35:41 probably helpful however one of the potential downsides that you have to consider is this could fuck up scorecards in a way that we're not really ready for or accepting and creates many men like like imagine if we had three or four x and this is probably not true but just imagine we had three or four x the number of draws i don't think people would be thinking of that as help right so if it had that kind of an effect, that doesn't help the sport really in any kind of meaningful way. So like in theory, I definitely get what people are talking about.
Starting point is 00:36:11 It's like, dude, what the fuck happened in that round? I'm going to give it to one person based on a bullshit punch that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Like it's the flimsiest of margins. I get, I get being apprehensive about that, but this is what I always say, dude, this is what I fucking always say. When the UFC goes to, to places where they self-regulate, or really any promotion, any major promotion,
Starting point is 00:36:30 they are in a place where they self-regulate. They need to take advantage of that and start experimenting with the rules. I talk about this all the time, BC, which is the NFL between seasons, because they are not regulated by some government entity. Of course, there are other ways that rules get get changed and they have their own procedures for it but if they want to move make the goal posts wider or if they want to change the kickoff rule and you know the person has to catch it on the 40 or whatever whatever they can tinker with the format between seasons and then see what happens and then keep it or adjust it as a consequence they can make adjustments
Starting point is 00:37:02 mma because we've just given the rules to the department of motor vehicles basically we have to sit there and take a number and wait and it takes forever and it's uneven and we just don't know we need people who have the liberty and the freedom to experiment to do just that i think you need an entirely new scoring system that's not 10 9 boxing based and is more based on i mean mean, look, when you, how amateur wrestling is scored on points you acquire throughout by doing things, could there be a future in MMA for that? So I asked, um, the famous former UFC commentator, Olympic gold medalist, rest in peace, Jeff
Starting point is 00:37:35 Blatnick before he died that exact question. And of course, you know, he came from wrestling where, you know, five points for a major throw, two points for a takedown one point in college college anyway for an escape or a pushout or whatever. And he said, no, you would never want to do that. And his argument was because MMA involves so many disparate composite sports of sambo and judo and wrestling, kickboxing, blah, blah, blah, all the different stuff, that you want some creative expression as a consequence. And if you put a point system on it, you would lose the creative expression.
Starting point is 00:38:07 That's a good point. So I think he's probably right. And you could also see people try to build leads with one dominant thing they're good at and just, you know, if a takedown's worth, you know, five points, just constantly take down back up. You wouldn't want a manipulation of the game, you know, even further. We already sometimes don't like when
Starting point is 00:38:25 people are too wrestling heavy um all right that's a fair that's a fair statement right there let's keep the combat questions rolling i've got a guy named og blackfoot now do you think that the uh foot became that way over time due to abuse and uh disuse luke or what how do you think like what happened here because remember in uh what's that adam sandler movie, Mr. Deeds, when Steve Buscemi's character had that black toe foot issue, you know what I'm talking about? I've never seen Mr. Deeds. Oh, it's so underrated.
Starting point is 00:38:54 It really is. I mean, it's not up to the level. I don't believe that. It's not up to the level of the water boy and the Billy Madison and the Happy Gilmore classics, but for second generation Sandler, it's really good, okay? But here's it's really good okay but here's the question from good old og blackfoot aside from footwork what can izzy do to mitigate the power
Starting point is 00:39:12 of poitan alex is so good and close clinching seems to be dicey dicey uh wow really gonna add that at the end uh luke i assume they're talking about a potential rematch here for the middleweight championship what can izzy do to mitigate the power of pereira how do you mitigate the power of I'm going to add that at the end. Luke, I assume they're talking about a potential rematch here for the middleweight championship. What can Izzy do to mitigate the power of Pereira? How do you mitigate the power of Pereira, aside from either blocking a strike before it lands or stopping him from throwing it? I mean, his power is his power.
Starting point is 00:39:39 OG wants us to say, well, how about stomping him until he gets a black foot? Like, that's what he wants us to say. Yeah, I don't think you could stomp his way through i mean you know for me i said this before i'm kind of repeating myself here a little bit like izzy's footwork is great his lateral movement is great and he was compromised by the calf kicks and that was what it was but i'm still going to go back to it like i i like izzy as a person and as a champ more than i've liked most fighters like by a long stretch.
Starting point is 00:40:05 But at the same time, you know, I try to recognize his weaknesses as best I can. And I do think the fact that he doesn't have offensive wrestling in his back pocket in a better way, it really hurt him in that fight. I know everyone wants to make it about the calf kicks, but I tend to think if you could reliably get the takedown, people are like, well, how do you know how good Pereira's takedown defense is?
Starting point is 00:40:22 You're right to that point. It's somewhat unclear, but to the extent it's been tested it hasn't looked very good um and so I tend to think that was something there for the taking and uh I think that's a great way to mitigate it you know now if he had great takedown defense then I really don't know what the answer is you know if he's like is he's hard to take down against defense anyway um but yeah I don't know if you have a better answer I I'd love to hear it. Well, first, Mikey dead wronged me. Well done, Mikey, in mid-time. Madame Sandler had the black foot.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Buscemi had the weird eyes, the crazy eyes. Excuse me, Luke. And the butler, remember he hits... Oh, you didn't see the movie. Okay, yeah, spoiler alert. Regarding Adesanya, though, Luke, yeah, I mean, you know what worked against Pareda? Pareda, yeah, I mean, you know what worked against Pareda? Pareda, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Exactly what Izzy did for four plus rounds with the exception of getting slowed by the calf kick. So it's a major exception, right? Because, you know, Izzy, to hang close enough, and Izzy wasn't trying to be a counter puncher. He wasn't hanging back. Dude, he was coming. I mean, look, that fight was a fun fight, right?
Starting point is 00:41:23 It was a good-ass fight. And I think that's what's fueling izzy's confidence which i talked about when when ariel interviewed him after the fight and people are like hey bc he was delusional no i just think he's really confident and knows that for the most part he's got parada figured out seriously for the most part he does the most part he does that's true but trying to execute that is where it's not easy because alex let's give him credit, is uniquely great. Some of the things we don't have full answers yet. We've had that debate before. But he's uniquely great in some very scary areas that makes it hard.
Starting point is 00:41:55 But Luke, would you identify legally as an Adesanya simp or just an appreciator? I mean, it depends what. That's a better question for other people i'm sure that they would accuse me of being a simp because you know they read at a third grade level so yeah but when ariel came at him like you know israel people are mad at me for saying this but that stoppage was bad blah blah that was very simpy okay i didn't see that um i didn't think i didn't think it was a bad stoppage did you no it was right on was right on. It was fine. Dude, the guy's hanging over with his, like, I mean, he's getting lit up. I mean, it's just, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:27 we all want every fight, and we want every fight to be a no until they're dead. But, I mean, look, which reminds me, if you haven't seen replays of, like, really big boxing matches from, like, the 40s, 50s, 60s lately, dude, they were way more brutal back then. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:41 Like, in terms of, like, you're knocked down, but you're back up. There's no checking system. If you're back up, you're back up and they send you back out there. And, you know, depending on how far you go back, sometimes boxers were allowed to stand way closer to the down fighter than the neutral corner idea. So it's like all that stuff changed over the years, like for a reason, for a major reason, right. It's already brutal enough. You don't need these, you know, built-in things right there. Even in a championship fight, even in the fifth round, if somebody's just getting lit up and they're not firing back,
Starting point is 00:43:09 they're trying to defend, but they're just getting... When your body language is like mannequin, dude, Pinocchio, you're going to get stopped by a referee. It's just what it is. You can make combat sports to have more finality. You can go back to 15 rounds and boxing and stuff like that but you're just going to get a lot more people hurt so like well they're going to give away their career in one night a lot of people that's right i mean so so like you kind of have to sacrifice a
Starting point is 00:43:34 little bit of direct clarity for health and safety and that that getting that line right is not easy but pushing it more towards health and safety is long-term much better. Yeah. Luke, how would you rate our questions from our fans up to this point out of a 10-point must-list? I give a solid eight and a half, maybe nine. That's pretty good questions. That's decent. All right, here we go. Let's go over to some random questions here from Michael. How much money would it take to have Luke fight Dan Snyder uninterrupted for a maximum of five minutes on the streets of Washington, D.C.? As much money as it would take to exonerate me legally. That's it. Yeah, I don't really think you can.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I'd do it for free as a public service. So, like, in his way of thinking about this, he's basically saying how much money would it take to get Dan Snyder to agree? Oh. he's basically saying how much money would it take to get dan snyder to agree oh uh i mean if bezos came out and was like i'll give you 2x the highest value appraisal of the team to fight yeah on morning combat yeah on the street rocky five all over again yeah weird question if you offered him 15 billion for the for the commanders would he take it um you know for that real question here you go this will define who you are as a man okay because it's a lot easy to talk that game but let's say you are walking around dc with tuki and your lovely wife and it's just you know
Starting point is 00:44:55 your guys are out for the day you turn the corner to go back in the parking lot to your car and daniel snyder standing right there and he just gets off a cell phone call and he's in a hurry and you're gonna cross right past him in the alley on your way i would definitely tell him fuck you i would just i've done that dude people do that to politicians in town all the time all the time it's very who have you done that to will you reveal who you've done that to uh i did it to john bolton one time as he was walking down the street did it to john bolton i gave what did you say uh what did i say to john bolton this was years ago uh i think i just said hey you um yeah hey john you um uh i've seen guys you know uh do worse than that uh when politicians are oh dude i've seen i've seen uh ted cruz, do worse than that when politicians are out.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Dude, I've seen Ted Cruz get heckled. I mean, that's not a big deal. You see that motherfucker get heckled all the time. But in front of your wife and kid, you'd be like, hey, Dan Snyder, like, thanks for ruining my childhood. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What about those rings? What about Joe Riggs, bro?
Starting point is 00:46:01 Joe Riggs. What about Joe Riggs? I'm thinking, wasn't there a fullback name riggins john no i'm thinking of uh who was the other back when ernest beiner was a halfback who was like the power back they brought in gerald riggs there it is gerald okay uh you know i was a big art monk guy i was a big art monk guy but um when i was a kid but here's one thing you gotta you gotta appreciate about dan sny Snyder that doesn't exist, or I should say that is so unusual. You got to do, this is a town, you got to remember, right?
Starting point is 00:46:35 Like where anyone who, like why do politicians run for office? Oh, I want to do good for the people. Get the fuck out of here. I mean, that's a little bit of that, but mostly it's because they want to be seen and heard and praised and on TV. And they've got some insatiable internal desire to control other people and make a big show of it. They want to be seen. This is a town where like there's maximum pressure on being seen. Who's at the parties? Who's at the ball?
Starting point is 00:46:54 Who's at the gala? Who's at this place? Who's at that place? It's maximum pressure. And Dan Snyder is never at any of these things because he is reviled by everybody. You've never seen him. Like, think about this.
Starting point is 00:47:08 You see Bezos walk red carpets of, like, the Kennedy Center opening, blah, blah, blah, or whatever. You never see Dan Snyder at these things, ever. He is persona non grata. You don't have any cross paths kind of moment with him ever. And you do for, like, lots of other people who are out and about in town. So he's, he's, he is like, you know, there's a lot of people who are hated in this town, but like by every measurement, I don't know of a single person who likes Dan Snyder, Republican,
Starting point is 00:47:36 Democrat, left, right, you name it. There is one thing that unites this town and it's fuck that guy. Wow. Wow. You know, I've told you before about like, when you grow up, go into the baseball games and the bleachers and Yankee stadium, you, you develop, you know, or just New York in general, you develop what you believe a general attitude and demeanor that you can be at a sporting event. That's normal to you, but to other people is like, the hell is wrong with you. And, you know, in the Wrigley field bleachers, when I said those things about Jim Edmonds, mom in 2001, I got, you know, I got sold out by, by the Cubs fans and got, you know, yelled at by security and threatened to throw it out. So I got an introduction that
Starting point is 00:48:12 the rest of the world isn't this way, but I mean, like it was just right of passage. If I went to a minor league baseball game, you would get drunk, try to go near the bullpen and try to entice one of the pitchers to fight you. Right. That's just like what you did. Right. So I, um, I was at the 2002 and NBA draft at the theater at Madison square garden. I, with cousin Tim and I waited out all day for tickets.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And, you know, when Yao Ming got drafted number one and he was like up on the video screen with his family in China with like a video feed. And, you know, we just kept giving him the finger and like swearing him out because he wasn't American.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And that was ignorant Luke. But then when you remember um jervis peterson from um uh season one of survivor jervis patterson remember that guy no he was the black guy in season one of survivor real nice guy he was randomly there in the crowd and i like called him over i was like yo jervis come over here man and i was like yo your 15 minutes of fame just ended best of luck to you you know it's like that was a dick move luke i felt yeah that was a dick I was like, yo, Jervis, come over here, man. And I was like, yo, your 15 minutes of fame just ended. Best of luck to you. You know, it's like that was a dick move, Luke. Yeah, that was a dick move.
Starting point is 00:49:14 See, it's one thing to heckle politicians who get us into war like I did. And you're just out there heckling dudes doing their job for a sports team. Yeah, I mean, I did get Jose Mesa when he was a reliever for the Phillies to get me removed from the bleachers. Who's the most famous person you just bumped into? And you can't count like something at a boxing event, like something unrelated. And I'm sorry, by the way, to Yao Ming for, for cheering and booing him just for not being American. But Luke,
Starting point is 00:49:36 that was a different time in my life. Okay. Okay. Outside of being at an event outside of going to like NBA all-star weekend and hanging out by the hotel to try to run into you know you're talking about a random in-person moment yeah just like you were you were out with the family on a day or vacation or something and boom there they are man i don't have great answers for that um when i i went to the airport in seventh grade uh jfk airport and the new york jets were there flying commercial and they there was a long line of them outside of like the newsstand before they got in the plane.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And I got to like wait in line to get an autograph from everybody. But they were probably like three and 13 that year and sucked with like Ken O'Brien and Freeman McNeil. So, you know, it wasn't like overly exciting. I don't have a great answer. Did you randomly run into somebody as a kid? Like some people met Hulk Hogan in an airport in like 1986. And I thought they like, you know met jesus or something you know uh i don't have anything major quite like that um
Starting point is 00:50:31 see all of my celebrity encounters i shouldn't say all but the vast majority have happened obviously through this job yeah um i'm trying to think of like somebody real big that we ran into i'd have to i'd have to noodle it i'd have to know i don't remember offhand well when i was flying for this job that time in first class when i had the lay down seat with the bed i told you i had damon waynes behind me and flavor flav two seats over to the left that was that was pretty cool you know well this isn't so much a celebrity encounter but but I one time took a commercial flight with some WNBA team, the Lynx, I think. I don't know who they play for. Minnesota Lynx.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Minnesota Lynx. And, you know, I feel like I can say this because I have seen numerous female soccer journalists put together long threads of who the hottest men are at the World Cup. But I couldn't believe, like, dude, you know, everyone jokes about the WNBA. I couldn't believe these women were, like know, everyone jokes about the WNBA. I couldn't believe these women were like very attractive, like numerous versions of them. I was like, wow, this is and they're all they're all taller than me, too, by the way. So would it have been extra native tongues or an ability to play guitar in that moment that could have gotten you to the finish line? See, well. You know, if I had a good French, I could have gone to them and been like Pepe Lepew except hands off you know what i'm saying okay there you go with that one uh luke i just feel bad that i
Starting point is 00:51:48 clowned jervis like that and that i told many minor league pitchers that they'll never go anywhere in life and they'll end up sitting next to me and you know what i mean i mean there is a you know a time in your life when you look back like man i was a dick for no reason just trying to fit in just trying to belong you know it's how was raised, Luke. We were raised in a culture of just absolutely abusing athletes. Or each other on a regular basis. Yeah, or each other, that's true. Let's go back to combat here. I've got one from Will Holden1.
Starting point is 00:52:15 He says, top three all-time boxers best suited for success in MMA. Now, I don't always love that question. It's like, how do we know if a boxer is going to be suited for MMA? I feel like i have a decent read on this i feel like i do i mean is it based on them you know oh that boxer has a wrestling background so it's definitely him is it based on well in that case it'd be bud crawford right bud crawford would be the would be the answer but i actually don't think that here's what i here's what i think i when i think of somebody who's got a boxing style that would translate to mma and then you could build the other components around, like, do they have the, like, what's a good natural ingredient to have in boxers? I'm going to say
Starting point is 00:52:50 boxers who are fleet of foot, like really good footwork and have some pop. If you're like, so for example, in a way, in a way, again, who knows how well he would get the wrestling or the jujitsu, you don't know, but I feel like his striking style would work real well for MMA, given all the things he can do. Right. That's fair. That's fair. I just think it's a,
Starting point is 00:53:12 it's a hard question to answer unless you're like, well, Hey, didn't Rougarou used to train with MMA him. Yeah. I mean, you know, like a little bit,
Starting point is 00:53:19 but wouldn't the answer be Bud Crawford or even like a Kermit Centron before he got completely washed? Didn't Kermit, didn't Kermit like wrestle. He had a good enough wrestling background but when he was throwing out the idea that was like you know 2006 back when mma was at such a still infantile process that the idea of transitioning because you had you know two foundational skills in his case with wrestling and boxing back then we would be like yeah let's see it man nowadays you'd still have doubts right legit yes i mean let's see it, man. Nowadays, you'd still have doubts, right? Legit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I mean, let's give credit to what Clarissa Shields is trying, but still you'd have doubts. All right, Luke, let's hear from right and wrong. Christian Lee of one championship, you know, the new two division title holder. He called out Islam Mahachev this week. Any dream cross promotion matchups for 2023 question mark. What would it take to get Dana to allow a cross-promotion with another organization?
Starting point is 00:54:16 So we are going to see cross-promotion New Year's Eve between Ryzen and Bellator. So that's awesome. But Luke, let's start off with the latter part of that question. What would it take? What literally would have to happen for Dana White to entertain entertain a cross promotion mma fight with another organization i'm not talking about connor boxing floyd i'm talking about like you know you know what i mean here it would take him not being a member of the organization and for their culture to completely change i mean it's not it's i cannot overstate this it's not possible it's not possible like why on earth would a monopoly uh okay the
Starting point is 00:54:46 last time it almost happened and this is the reason why it didn't happen was when fedor emilienenko was secretly negotiating with ufc right to fight randy no there was a time before that pride was still thriving when chuck went over to compete i think the 2003 right middleweight grand prix or whatever it was and he got he got wrecked by rampage but like the last time that it was like a discussion could it happen and it didn't probably exactly because of that because ufc wasn't willing to co-promote with m1 in in vedami as he used to call him uh like scott coker was at the time so yeah i mean they would have to either lose their market share to a level where it would be something that would make sense for them. But what about that other thing? What if there is a phenomenon? What if the tiger woods
Starting point is 00:55:28 of MMA comes and what if that fighter, it doesn't look at like, well, Hey, I'll win all these titles elsewhere. And then I'll go to the UFC instead, instead says, I know who I am. I'm I'm I could be the all-time great. I'm an alien, right? I'm tiger woods meets, you know, whomever, um, you got to come to me. Could somebody ever get that famous where the UFC is like, all right, we'll put our best fighter up against him in a cross promotion, two network pages. Only if they then signed him.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Like, only if they're like, for example, you did an interview with DeRitter. So let's imagine the UFC was like, holy shit, we got to get this guy. They would sign him and then put him against their best. They wouldn't put their best against him as a member of another organization. It's just not going to happen. I know it sounds fun. Now, I will say it probably also won't happen, but much more on the table would be Bellator versus PFL or PFL versus one or some combination therein, more peer
Starting point is 00:56:21 to peer organization. But like Bellator and one and PFL, they're not peers with to peer organization but like bellator and one and pfl they're not peers with ufc or not they're gonna have divisions that are like rivally good like they're they're 205 and bellator is obviously very very good that can rival or whatever but like as an organization in totality nobody can it's not possible i'm i'm wondering and doubting though under my fake scenario there if if just being the next tiger woods of this sport right just being which is a lot like when when it when it when um when when aj mckee beat pipple there was that like feeling for a moment like oh my god like how like is this guy you know really going to be the mayweather of mma like he says he will that's a huge win and obviously you know he's human by the way he's
Starting point is 00:57:00 also still great but is it enough to just be that under this scenario to get the ufc's attention even with your scenario that okay we'll do one pro promotion then you sign with us or does that person also have to be a celebrity elsewhere do they have to be like lebron james's son or do they have to be like you know here's something to think about imagine if the ufc really wanted to get into china or something or even just like Japan I mean they're already in Japan but you know imagine if there was so for here's again I'm not a pro wrestling guy but as I understand it Kazushi Sakuraba was a big deal for a couple of reasons one was he was obviously very good and he was beating all the Gracie's they talked they called him the Gracie Hunter all this stuff but he was equally famous in pro wrestling and the way someone explained it to me
Starting point is 00:57:44 at the time was imagine if Hulk Hogan at his peak or something near it because we grew up in the 80s when hulk hogan was like a cultural phenomenon when he liked black people yeah yeah before he realized that you know he was just going to bang his friends wives and shit um but back then he was a huge i mean dude hulk hogan was massively popular in the 80s okay my understanding was sakuraba occupied a space where he was like imagine if hulk hogan went and did mma and was actually like kicking everyone's ass at it you know that's the kind of equivalent that sakuraba was yeah now maybe maybe if the ufc was trying to get into a uh some kind of market china or whatever and some organization had this guy,
Starting point is 00:58:25 right. That was just, I mean, the door that the key that unlocked every fucking door they could possibly want under that scenario, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe something could be worked out.
Starting point is 00:58:37 But even then, what I think they would do is just try and sign the guy away. I really do. All right. To close up right. And wrong's question. I want to ask you what, what would be your dream cross promotion matchup if no red tape existed for next year what's the
Starting point is 00:58:49 one fight with people in separate organizations that would get you the most fired up nemkov versus derrida would be wow i that's a curveball damn wow okay nemkov versus derrida would be fucking awesome i that would be just be a sick sick fight um whoo that's a great question um dude derrida's really good not my yeah he's people don't just have no idea how good he is he's yeah he's eventually probably gonna sign with ufc and he's gonna smoke some people's uh best best fighter uh that they love um what about ubc as i noodle this through what else stands out to you you know uh stamp fair text versus uh cheyenne warrior princess would be a hell of a promotion fight look it'd be a war uh no um you know i mean right you know right usman namaga madoff is going to enter this uh equation soon you would you could
Starting point is 00:59:43 assume you know um as much as I want. Pitbull versus Volkanovski would be fun. Yeah, exactly. That would be amazing. I would favor Volkanovski to win, but Pitbull is not to be trifled with. Like, that's a good fight. Kayla Amanda would be hella interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yep, yep. Or even Pitbull Max Holloway. I'd be size for both of those. Yeah, yeah, indeed. All right. Thank you, right and wrong. Luke, I don't want to stop. Don't make me stop. we can do a little bit more all right good thank you i'm glad you're willing to give this to the fans for their holiday uh here let's go back to random here uh this is from melissa what would be your life's soundtrack you get to choose your
Starting point is 01:00:18 top three songs only uh how do you define what she's actually asking here luke i come blood fucked with a knife and uh and uh uh walking death terror and i touch myself excuse me death walking what am i saying i touch myself by the divinals would also be a big part of your uh the soundtrack of your life luke soundtrack of my life like if i'm'm thinking about the most popular songs that I listen to through big stages of my life, does that count? Well, that's why I asked you for a definition. Does it mean like if you picked My Way by Sinatra, does that, you know, that song defines
Starting point is 01:00:53 what I did in my life. No one told me what to do, right? Fuck them. I get that. Or does it mean what you're saying? What would be the like, you know, Semi-Charmed Life by Third Eye Blind, Luke, could be a soundtrack track for my life. Don't question about it. All right?
Starting point is 01:01:08 I don't even know how to answer this in that way. I will say, BC, let me flip this question a little bit. What is a song that you really, I mean, really love, like it actually means a lot to you, that I would be surprised to learn? I have an answer for you that I think you might. Well, we did this. This was a question of us at one of these type of videos a year ago and we both ranked in the moment you know songs that lyrics well it was it was worded under the way that like lyrically
Starting point is 01:01:34 what songs just move you and inspire you or whatever what is your answer what are you let me see the answer would be like morrissey's obviously a jackass or whatever but yeah yeah um how soon is now by the smiths man i love it i don't know that one i don't know i don't know how soon is now i never got into morrissey or the smiths or i you know i i am human and i and i need to be loved i mean i'm just getting i'm just discovering new wave right now the first two rem records are insane luke i mean night swimming by rem is also one of my favorite favorite favorite dude i thought i knew who rem was i had no freaking idea the first they're talented dude they're from athens georgia and athens georgia is like it's a it's not quite right but it's a little bit like not it's like
Starting point is 01:02:16 austin texas 10 years ago it's got a music scene and like all of this like you know cultural stuff happening in this little hub inside georgia connected to the university and everything uh that's where they're from that's where rem is from they're from athens like it's uh dude rem is great they're great people have to understand it was very easy our age now i didn't come from georgia to hate rem because the first time i probably really knew them was that early 90s mtv commercial run where michael being, you know, the champion of everything at a time where it was hard to do that. And I think some of their singles at the time that were big radio or video hits were, they sucked. You know what I mean? They were like, they were lame at
Starting point is 01:02:54 that moment. You know, when I was, I didn't want to hear losing my religion when I was 12. Now I appreciate the shit out of the, the instrumentation in that song and the deep message that, you know, it's about relationships, not actually about religion, but, um, you know, I mean i mean everybody heard so it was like that's the only thing you knew of them they were easy to hate because they like a lot of great bands that have endured they've gone to different lanes genre wise but you know if you're already an rem fan you know how brilliant they are but holy shit those first two records are just they're just different man there's an energy to them they're they don't sound of their time even though they are they really just it's just but um there's a track by uh separately from this conversation by ryan adams called um winding wheel my winding wheel that that that it would be a soundtrack for me that
Starting point is 01:03:35 the lyrics could move me to tears that kind of stuff i mean i'm a big sap luke there's a lot of great great songs lyrically that can just you know take me there but uh you know i that's probably just sad sappy stuff you know i'm gonna have to break up music post there's nothing better than post breakup music there's nothing better than even when you're in a good spot worse man i'm happily married yet if i hear the perfect post breakup song that like you know triggers something from like 2003 you're just like uh yeah you're back in the fetal position luke you know that's very emo of me i know that okay luke but i try to show what's what's like what's a post breakup song you played over and over again so many of them okay so many my big one was you're gonna laugh at this but and it wasn't on purpose it just kind of found you know
Starting point is 01:04:20 some stuff just finds you and you're it just sticks uh beethoven's ode to joy as a post i was thinking more like yeah yeah but if you think about it it's got this if you've ever heard it done by an orchestra it starts off real uh it's just like almost like the bass line begins to you know what he knew heartbreak like beethoven you know what i mean he knew what it was like to deal with bitches you know he just he was on top on top of that. That was the secret to his music. He played two chords. It explains why. There you go.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, Beethoven's Ode to Joy was a big one for me. Yeah. I mean, I could name some sappy stuff, but you'd probably think I'm lamer than I already am. So let's keep this conversation moving. Because I'm going to lose you eventually, and then this video is going to end, Luke. That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Eventually, I'm going to be like, hey, I got to go do my other job, even though I have to go shit my pants or something there. Let's go over here to Amadeus XLO is called from The Walking Dead, the worst character to appear in a serialized show. If not, then who? I've never seen The Walking Dead, so you're gonna have to handle this. OK, so I mean, again, someone who's going to who read the comics and that's not what happened in the comics.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Don't give a fuck. I'm not reading a zombie comic book. Fuck your life. Okay. And if you did, you could have spent your time better just eating paint chips or, you know, committing murders. It would have been a better use of your time anyway. So I've only ever seen the show. Okay. Carl was the son of basically the main protagonist. And the main protagonist, this dude I can't explain to you, so stressed out, so beat up from life, losing loved ones left and right, and his son was a bitch-ass teenage whiner and a half.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Again, they say in the comics that wasn't really the case, but in the TV show, dude, every fucking week, every fucking week, I would tune in and be be like please let the zombies eat this motherfucker today please get rid of this freeloading piece of shit you know what i mean yeah him is the fucking worst but there was another guy early on now the zombies did eat his bitch ass there was an old guy in like seasons like one through three i want to say when they were still outside of atlanta trying to get to the cdc there was this old dude and like seasons like one through three, I want to say when they were still outside of Atlanta trying to get to the CDC, there was this old dude and all he ever did, all he ever did was complain that, you know, Carl's dad's name is Rick, that Rick's plans weren't this. They weren't that this isn't going to work. Never had a constructive solution. Never lifted a glove,
Starting point is 01:06:40 nothing. And the zombies ate him. I remember when the zombies ate him, remember when the zombies ate mbc i was on my feet being like yes fucking tear this motherfucker's guts out fuck this guy finally fuck him finally finally finally uh mikey offering skylar from breaking bad as an awful character hated skylar i gotta tell you i didn't love her don't get me wrong i didn't think she was a great character but i'm gonna call bullshit on this one i think people hate skylar because they hate women i really believe that wow what about me saying uh meatball molly during uh patty pimblitt fights dude she was enjoying her i mean it's not for me either but she was enjoying herself you're just a hater i'm just joking with you right there uh but yeah you never see bro back up a step did you never see breaking bad so um my you know uh my good friend eric raskin from the showtime boxing
Starting point is 01:07:25 podcast raskin and mulvaney he and bill detloff another great boxing writer podcaster they did a uh a podcast for every single i think breaking bad episode so i was like i love their podcast work together so i wanted to do that so i got all hyped up i'm like i'm gonna do breaking bad i don't know what happened to me dude i watched an watched an episode and a half, and it's not like I didn't like it, but for some reason I just felt like it wasn't enough for me where I'm ready to actually go all in and watch every single episode and listen to the podcast after each episode and just get all jacked up. I think I just finished watching The Wire from start to finish
Starting point is 01:08:00 for like the third time. The Wire is a hard act to follow. So I was like, I'm ready for the next drug let's do it you know and um i probably still owe it listen listen i'll say this breaking bad it's the wire is a hard act to follow it's a really hard act to follow but breaking bad's good dude it's really good i really enjoyed it my wife really enjoyed it it's probably the favorite it's probably my favorite show that my wife and i watched together yeah um we were sad when it ended and here's the thing it's like dude skylar was annoying but she was like trying to hold the family together while this guy was out there just
Starting point is 01:08:31 cooking meth and you know and he like she was trying to get in the way of that in ways she didn't quite understand like nothing ever made sense to her but like in the end in she cheated on him oh that's right she did cheat on him yeah but dude he was an absent dude walter white people want to make walter white to be some hero walter white was a bad person he was a bad father he was a bad husband he tried to put money together for them which i think they got very little of in the end and maybe nothing in the end he eventually abandoned them and then fucking died like like here the true the true story of breaking bad was this guy who had been shit on in life and didn't get the big breaks he deserved, got a cancer diagnosis, and then decided he wanted to cook meth or stumbled into cooking meth and then realized it would be lucrative and did that as a way to take care of his family.
Starting point is 01:09:15 But he turns from that into just a drug kingpin who would just kill anyone who got in his way and turn into a bad person. And he ran over his family in the end. So in end skylar was annoying she was annoying but she got fucked over like she got majorly the character got majorly fucked over by a guy who was not a good person uh who's a more annoying character for you steve urkel kimmy gibbler from full house or jar jar binks from episode one dude jar jar binks i mean they should have just dropped a nuclear bomb on the gungans and called it wow that's that's harsh luke i you know i stand by the gungans they're they were redeemed they were warriors okay you know what i'm saying we got introduced underwater tadpole freeloaders when it was time to throw down they were chewbacca like true or false i mean sort of they didn't have that Chewbacca boutedness.
Starting point is 01:10:06 They also showed up. In fairness, BC, not many do. I, you know, maybe it was the factory town and the river that ran through it. Mikey is saying that Skyler turned the son against Walter White. No, Walter White turned a family against himself. Not true. I don't agree with that at all. Walter White was fun as a character to follow, but he was a really bad
Starting point is 01:10:30 person and a really bad parent. Would you throw Jay Aaron from the show Morning Combat on here on this question at all? Would you consider that? Yeah, but he's not the worst character. He's just the least relevant. Yeah, all right. Let's keep it going here from JoelFC82. Honestly can't understand BC liking Wak wakanda forever it's awful thor love and thunder was 20 times better what movie have
Starting point is 01:10:53 you guys hated that everyone loved and vice versa what have you loved that everyone hated that's a cool question i like that um let's see here luke is there a great movie that's like revered i mean dirty dancing dirty dancing sucks man women think that's the best thing that ever happened yeah they think it's like a prequel to pretty woman or something no okay so my senior year in high school and i had like my first like real serious i had girlfriends before but like it was my first like long-term one um she made me go to like when they re-released it in theaters in 1998 i had to go watch that fucking shit in the theaters oh my god what a nightmare that was um i mean schindler's list wasn't pleasant okay wasn't designed to be a
Starting point is 01:11:39 romantic comedy yeah there you go i mean it is unpleasant in a certain way yeah uh you know my answer would be is um your baby's the real answer here also i told you that i walked out or i stopped watching um natural born killers was a little too much oh natural born killers is great maybe i took it too seriously at that age you know yeah i mean it's an art movie right and you got to take it for what it is i get it it's a satire it was just well it's not satire so much as it's commentary in a certain way bizarre commentary right um i you know i'll be honest i did not love this movie but i liked it i definitely liked it and no one else did which was the last jedi so episode what is that six of the the middle one of the new three eight eight what am i saying six yeah what the fuck am i talking about six was return of the jedi so nine blue nine sucked that's
Starting point is 01:12:33 that's well the the the rise of skywalker is utterly unwatchable seven seven doesn't hold up as well as it did the night it came out in the theater but that theater experience for seven every time people make this mistake they made it recently with this new movie barbarian that i saw what are like oh the movie has plot holes and it's like yes of course it does it has plot holes but you forgive plot holes if the director and then the writers are trying to actually have some intelligent commentary beyond the scope of what the plot can naturally deliver to you you have to make that concession a little bit and they did in the last jedi the thing that i really loved about it that i really enjoyed about it was that finally someone was like dude all this jedi shit just fucking bury it it's
Starting point is 01:13:16 the past be done with it through through kylo ren that's when kylo ren because kylo ren sucked in episode seven a new hope he was he was an emo piece of shit crying loser who just off his dad and he couldn't beat ray in that sword battle at the end he couldn't be fucking ray who had like five minutes of jedi training in finn with no jedi no midichlorians was kind of dude darth vader would have ripped that guy into two pieces like with his mind with a schlong if it's either way did dark vator retain a schlong or do you think that he lost that in the transaction they probably gave him like a robotic fucking nine incher just out there hammering you know what i mean uh but here's the point i want to make dude the jedi shit is is so tired it is so old it is so over it's so you just know dude you can't keep recycling these same stories
Starting point is 01:14:02 over and over and over again and someone was finally willing to say be done with it burn it get rid of the past that was one thing i liked about the other one which i thought was actually a very salient point was one like when he burned the the jedi temple which is like dude in in uncertain times institutions won't save you they will fail around you too there is no certainty there is no security none of those things are there's just figments of your imagination imagination they don't really exist and they and they went with that and that's uncomfortable and that's not fun and it's hard to watch so like the part about you know princess or i should say queen lay or whatever emperor lay
Starting point is 01:14:36 whatever she was you know in space getting herself back on the plane that was fucking stupid that part is stupid i can't defend that i won't defend that but the part's about getting rid of the jedis moving from it and institutions failing around you i fucking love that someone finally took a risk with star wars and a big one and it didn't pay off but i thought it was great i do say i still like seven and eight i i think that i over value them when they first came out then i watched them enough to see the holes in them and they're not perfect, but they're okay. They're okay.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Seven is basically fine. I don't have a problem with it. Yeah. Episode four all over again. Seven is the most nostalgic one on purpose. I get it. It's basically like redoing episode four, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:18 advancing it in a, in a Cobra Kai type way. Just read, read doing the same themes, but right. Yeah. Nine sucks, man.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And one, two sucks too i mean come on nine nine sucked so bad i actually saw it with my in-laws and uh we walked out of the theater and i was like dude what did you think about that and they were like oh we loved it and i was like i i wanted to get a divorce from my wife just to just to stick it to him for that opinion so i was like fuck you guys no no from from columbia like they were here on on and they're wonderful people i'm obviously joking but like yeah i was i was like are you are you doing a bit here like you can't possibly think
Starting point is 01:15:55 that that was good uh they just wanted to see you know chewbacca and lasers and shit you know so um luke i got a soccer one for you since it's world cup time all right and messy just lost two to one to the saudi arabians i saw i saw that i was like what the fuck uh this is from lee carrick 14 what would be your dream non-combat sports sporting final to attend including tournaments teams and venue for example. For example, AC Milan versus Inter Milan in the Champions League final at the San Siro. San Siro. It wouldn't happen because, well, it could happen,
Starting point is 01:16:33 but there's nothing on the horizon about it. I would love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love to go see Real Madrid play a Champions League final in their home stadium which is you know very not really possible but um in the bernabeu that's what it's called um i would love to go to something like that but i will tell you bc he asked non-combat sports related there is one itch inside combat sports that i have not scratched that i really want to go i want to go to what morrow calls the punch bowl. What's it called now?
Starting point is 01:17:05 The home Depot or whatever the name of it. Dignity health sports, dignity health sports. Yeah. They've changed the name a million times in Carson city, California, man. I got to tell you that is on my bucket list.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Huh? Yeah. It's Carson, California. Did I say Carson city? I don't know why I'm off my, I'm off my rocker today, but,
Starting point is 01:17:19 um, that I want to go to that one. I really like that's a bucket list thing for me. You have to do that. It was like my pilgrimage to Wrigley field in 2001. You in for a day game shirt off. You have to do it. Um, combat sports related, you know, I, I gotta be Wembley stadium for a major boxing
Starting point is 01:17:36 match, you know, that'd be, I mean, you know, 90,000 people there, you know, just, yeah, that'd be incredible. Um, I don't know if I have have what do i have a non-combat sports dream i mean dude nobody's going to turn down like the world cup or any of these you know super soccer tournaments that you love i mean the atmosphere probably is the most intoxicating thing ever i mean dude when i saw when i went to some really big penn state games in the late 90s early 2000s when they were ranked that was some of the most intoxicating shit ever luke you know i don't know i'm not dying to go i mean i like tennis but i'm not dying to go i like baseball
Starting point is 01:18:09 i'm not dying to go even the super bowl it's too you know i guess if the commanders were in it or something i'd feel different or whatever but in general like that's what about like olympics 100 meter dash final or something like that oh oh my god i told my wife about this i told my wife about this there's no way to make it work because i can't make it do the and you're gonna laugh at this or you're gonna mock it i don't care this wouldn't be like bucket list but i really want to go the world championships this year in fact in a couple of weeks are actually in bogota columb for the Olympic weightlifting world championships. And all of the major lifters are going,
Starting point is 01:18:49 including my favorite lifter currently, Lashita Lahadze from Georgia. He is going to be going over to Bogota to compete. And I told my wife, I was like, I really wanted to go, but we just couldn't make it work. Yeah. I would love to go to something like that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Mikey's shouting out that scc football just insanity i would agree i think if any of us who haven't went to an scc game we probably you know so i've seen i've i've been to now this is acc or maybe they've moved i can't even tell anymore because all the conference shifting but when i was a kid i saw i saw fsu in tallahassee play who do they play damn that's got to be fun i can't remember but it was a completely sold out thing and it was crazy I saw FSU in Tallahassee play. God, who did they play? Damn, that's got to be fun. I can't remember, but it was a completely sold-out thing, and it was crazy as shit, and that was pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I mean, when you do big-time college football, like when I saw 109,000 people on homecoming when Penn State was ranked number two and undefeated, like that's just a different level. I mean, I've done good seats at Knicks playoff games, like in the, what's it, 2000 season? That, you know, when they came back from 18 down in game six against the Heat, that was something, even though I'm not a Knicks fan,
Starting point is 01:19:50 that was something like, you'll never forget what that felt like. I would already bet anything soccer related probably takes that to another level because it's life or death for most countries. So yeah, I'd love to attend all that and feel that. Also, you know, I never got to see like duke unc at duke you know that that could be something that i which even now doesn't mean the same thing but like we were
Starting point is 01:20:11 when i was so i was a senior in college in 2002 and i've talked about before badie boozer dunleavy that whole crew man yeah jay williams to go and watch them down in in north carolina play their their essentially cross-state rivals that fuck, that would have been great. Yeah, yeah. I pretty much feel like every answer is either college football or soccer, though. Those seem to be the two, like, need to inject this in my veins for non-combat. Yeah, indeed, right there. All right, let's wrap this up here. Luke, let me see if there's anything else doing good here. Uh, from $5 foot long. Wow. Uh, BC, what is an artist or album you really enjoy, but yet know and think Luke hates. What are you planning for the Jan six anniversary? Do you want to lead
Starting point is 01:20:56 off with Jan six? What are you planning for the, is that the two year Jan six or one? I don't even know anymore. I can't i can't dude i can't keep track of anything in my life all the last dude since we started mk it's one long year right because i was mid covid which was weird enough it's just been one year i'm so glad you said that i feel exactly the same i feel exactly the same way um it's just one day bleeds into the next man they really do um so what's an artist or album i enjoy that you know or think luke's gonna well that's up to you i know i'm trying to think of that i mean a lot a lot of what i love most of bc's record collection i would burn like luke i just i just picked this up for two dollars so van morrison
Starting point is 01:21:38 did a live album right at the peak of his powers in 74 it's called uh um what is it it's too late to stop now didn't he didn't van morrison get in trouble once because he like did an entire show with his back turned to the audience oh he yeah he's he's a long time cantankerous dick that's why people hail this concert so much as one as arguably the greatest live album in rock history that i didn't even know about because this was like the most amiable he ever was and he was willing to be a showman dude this double double record in the last two days has just blown and i'm already a van fan i've got all the great ones right on vinyl already dude this this is so damn great because he mixes all the genres together
Starting point is 01:22:18 does each song differently than the album at a different pace and and timing but yet just performs the shit out of it in terms of improvisation i i bet you would appreciate that like there is you you misunderstand me a little bit like dude a good musician is a good musician like he's a very good one like i'd be okay with that dude one of my favorite records this is true was when uh i've listened to it like you know on numerous times over the years stevie ray vaughn performing at carnegie hall oh yeah dude i mean you gotta get the fuck out of here with that that's that's just a genius at work i mean it's unbelievable there's a show i used to have the dvd it's stevie ray vaughn live at the elmo cambo which i think is in elmo combo i think
Starting point is 01:23:00 it's in toronto it's a club he just does a live performance like right at the peak of his powers and like 83 basically dude there are moments that you're like they're like am i higher than i think i am that there's an eight like he he's a he's there's an alien it's like the end of total recall when the guy brings out his lizard arm i mean there's things he does on that that are just you know they're they're hendrix like and that's like saying they're they're uh you know they're godlike let me ask you this name a concert you just walked out of you were like fuck this um but this is the funniest and saddest story ever okay so my buddy went to manhattan college in the bronx and i used to go there every weekend, right? I was always there. I like how Manhattan College is in the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Yeah, in Riverdale. Shout out to Ed for that. I dated a girl in Riverdale. Oh, wow. Did you smash? I did, yeah. We dated for a while. I mean, it was a romantic thing.
Starting point is 01:24:00 So this is like fall. This is probably like 98, and we're there for like whatever uh basketball opening night what do you call that thing remember what's that night called like it's like halloween night when college basketball midnight madness there you go yeah yeah we went to midnight madness at manhattan college right who cares i got so i had a a jersey t-shirt made with my name back on the back of it i got so drunk i was out there in the layup line with the guy i mean it was out of control look okay um that night as we're on our way to the bars they're like yo cnc music
Starting point is 01:24:30 factory is performing tonight i'm like are you kidding me they're like yeah they're over there at the auditorium but like no one's going to it and this is 98 cnc music factory had their two big hits in what like 91 92 right it's not that far removed i'm like dude we have a chance to see cnc music factory right now like yeah free tickets it's free you want to go luke i approached a imagine an elementary school gym you know how small that is with a stage on the end of it you know how small that is right right? It's like real small. I approached what was the equivalent to that. Heard, um, sweat baby, but the music tech control, let the rhythm move you. And I'm like, yeah, dude, walked in.
Starting point is 01:25:17 There's no fans there. There's three kids standing against the back wall, laughing and kind of pointing at the stage. three kids standing against the back wall laughing and kind of pointing at the stage there's one person standing in front of the stage who was security and it's cnc music factory shout out what's the guy's name freedom williams just going ham luke performing like there was nobody there because there wasn't or performing like he's at madison square garden dripping sweat just going after it and i walked in and just was and i was so excited to be there to see them and was overcome with the sadness of that moment like oh my and like the only people that were there were like obviously heckling like can you believe this shit and then we just laughed
Starting point is 01:25:55 at them and turned around and walked away and while i don't feel as bad as i do for the yamming and jervis patterson reveals of when i was an absolute shit head, you know, but, um, yeah, I walked out, Luke. It was the saddest thing I've ever seen. That's like five years removed from their absolute world renowned peak. And, uh, they were playing to nobody at Manhattan college in the Bronx. Thank you. So I've got two concerts that I've left one. I really regret one was just the best decision ever. So one I regret was I went to go see army of the pharaohs if you don't know who that is it's a like a super group of uh all the underground rappers that i tend to like so it's you know esoteric and apathy and vinnie paz and self-titled and blah blah blah
Starting point is 01:26:36 but they were the headlining act so dude doors opened at seven concerts started at eight it was at the 9 30 club in dc okay so i was on u street getting beers with a friend of mine blah blah blah we roll in at eight and you know we're like ah we're a bit early you know let's just wait and we'll come back and so blah blah we got drunk and then we went there at 11 okay three hours fucking later and they still were not playing yet there was like multiple acts that were still yet to go on the fucking bill including like a guy i didn't even like named mr lif i was like what the fuck is going on waited 30 minutes then another group that came out that's part of the aotp but separate called outer space
Starting point is 01:27:17 and then they started their set and i'm like no fuck this this is ridiculous i'm not waiting three and a half four hours for this band to fucking come when do they think we're gonna go home so i just left but then i tried to see them multiple times since then and all of those concerts got canceled so i really regret it the one i don't regret was when i went to a place called it used to be called the nissan pavilion and now it's called jiffy loo live it's out in bristol virginia and every time the band goes there it's always like we're going to washington dc it's two hours from the city in the middle of nowhere so when you leave dude you're gonna wait another hour or two just getting out of there we go to see my wife like begged me she really wanted to see Motley Crue I was like all right we'll fucking go see Motley Crue first of all I
Starting point is 01:27:58 mean the fact that I didn't get lice is just incredible number one I mean the people there just I mean the dregs of society. Let's just be quite honest about that. And then, uh, dude, the sound. Now my wife says she has seen the band a number of times and she's, she even agreed with me. The sound was horrific. We don't know if it was just their equipment or what the cause was. Cause we'd been to that venue several times before and it never had an issue.
Starting point is 01:28:23 They were so fucking bad. The sound was was so terrible and then it started to rain and i looked at my wife she's like we've been here they've been playing for 30 minutes i'm like we are wasting our fucking time and so we finally left turns out that the rain picked up way worse after we left and there was flooding in the parking lot and cars had to get towed out of there the next day so the shit could drain out and they could go get them one of the best calls i've ever made in my life bang bang luke thomas waits for no man uh luke final question you know this one's from a twitter user cj hilson why is is Luke so damn salty all the time? Who hurt you, man?
Starting point is 01:29:07 How much time do we have for this, Luke? I'll just say this, man. I don't know why it's this way, and I don't necessarily prefer it to be this way. I don't necessarily think the way I do it is better or the way in which I see life is better. However, I mean, a fish can't cry about its gills. You know, that's how it's, that's how it breathes. Yeah. Yeah. Things that normally
Starting point is 01:29:33 interest the average person I've always found stupid and boring. And I will say something else about this too. Uh, people in this day and age, you hear a lot about like, oh, we want someone to be real, be real, get the fuck out of my face with that shit. If there is anything I have learned, it's that people love fraud. People love fiction and not like fiction isn't like designated fiction as in fiction that masquerades as fact. People love being lied to. They love all of this shit. And if you think that's not true, then ask yourself why there's so much of it in the world.
Starting point is 01:30:11 It's because people love it. They respond to it. They eat it up. You're talking about fake news? Not just fake news, but like old sayings that make no sense or inherited customs you're just supposed to keep using or whatever. All of these things
Starting point is 01:30:25 have never made sense to me at all and the reasons why we do them have never made sense to me at all and this is very true in the fight game where it's always smoke and mirrors and people are exaggerating and lying people love lies they love they love bullshit and i've just never been that guy man i just can't go along with it. I can't unsee it. And so it puts me on the outside looking in all the time, man. Okay. So it's not that you're hurt. Well, it's maybe that you're always hurt, right?
Starting point is 01:30:54 Because you are who you are. You know your own truth. And anything else can S a D. Can S the biggest of Ds. You know what I'm saying? Who are we talking about? Shaq? What are we doing here? You mean the Prince of D's. You know what I'm saying? Who are we talking about? Shaq? What are we doing here?
Starting point is 01:31:07 You mean the Prince of Persia from Canada? Yeah, no, not that Shaq. Wow. We have to round and did 90 minutes for the people. That's not bad. That's what we do. Overtime. Always.
Starting point is 01:31:18 OT, Corey OT Anderson. Thank you folks for your questions. Thanks for listening to our reveals about how shitty we used to be before we evolved as human beings. Yeah. I've definitely been terrible. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:31:31 we all have, it's just, you know, it's, it's just what it is right there. But, uh, I don't know what else to say here,
Starting point is 01:31:36 Luke, what else do you want me to say? Thank you to everyone who watched don't drink and drive this, uh, Thanksgiving weekend, please don't do that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Be responsible, uh, get an Uber, get a taxi, whatever you got to do. You have more options now to not drink and drive than ever before. Right, right. Before, you kind of had to wing it, you know, a little bit. Now you don't. So don't do that shit. And thank you for watching.
Starting point is 01:31:58 And we should also know, obviously, we still have the month of December left, which should be a good month for us. But on top of that, um dude 2023 looks to be a strong year so let's let's let's keep it in high gear yeah let's keep banging let's keep bringing it and you guys keep um supporting us let's keep raping downloading our content as luke vapes uh thank you to mikey more mile our producer um who could also be vaping it's possible i mean it's not it's not outside of the realm of possibility that right now. Are bong hits vaping?
Starting point is 01:32:27 Because it definitely does that. Thank you, dear listener. I hope you enjoyed some family time this weekend. And just, you know, focus on what really matters, okay? Morning combat. Yeah, obviously. Like and subscribe. There you go.
Starting point is 01:32:41 No, your health, your mental health, your family. You can get out of this ditch you're in. Because we've all been there. There's probably a few more ditches left for me before the final one. Where I don't come out of. But you can come back from this, okay? Spring follows winter, inevitably. Believe that.
Starting point is 01:32:59 That's some truth right there. For Luke Thomas, my name is Brian Campbell. Thanksgiving is the best holiday. I hope you enjoyed it. Hope you didn't hurt anybody during Black Friday. But thank you for watching. Two more words. We out.

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