MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Trump Wants UFC at the White House, Chavez Jr. Detained by ICE

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas and the entire MK crew is back on a Monday to go over the latest headlines in the world of combat sports. President Donald Trump told a crowd of supporters in Iowa on Frida...y he was intending to host UFC fights on the lawn of the White House for July 4th celebrations next year. The fellas ponder if it's a good idea. Fresh off of his loss to Jake Paul, Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. was detained by ICE and is set for deportation to Mexico, where he is reportedly wanted for activity related to the Sinaloa Cartel. Various reports suggest he might've acted as something of an enforcer for the cartel. While these charges are serious, why was the fight between Paul and Chavez allowed to go forward if this information was known? Plus, the guys react to ONE Championship's continuous decline, talk boxing with David Benavidez vs. Anthony Yarde set for November and Tyson Fury coming out of retirement yet again. BC and LT also look ahead to the rest of 2025 and go over what they want to see in combat sports for the remainder of the year. There's no better way to start your week than waking up with Morning Kombat!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:24 go at least once. If you live in the city, you got to go see the federalaster. I mean I figure yeah every kid has to go at least once if you live in the city You got to go see the federal fireworks. Yes, they were fine for four minutes They weren't much longer than that. I remember being longer as a kid, but whatever I mean fireworks were they on a but I know they don't start till like 9 p.m. So you have to figure out like what you're gonna do all day and part of that you have to wait You know in these areas so But we did it I decided to do it and she liked it But then you know it ended and we were like, alright, well, that's that
Starting point is 00:01:52 But yeah, other than that we had a good time. That's great. Oh, I will say this we'll say this Once you say it to key Lifted weights with me in her own way in the front yard in a very kidlike way I have her like a one pound kettlebell Wow lifted weights with me in her own way. In the front yard? In a very kid-like way. I have her like a one pound kettlebell. Wow. Lifted weights with me in the front yard yesterday. Okay. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:09 All we need is to get her on some metal music. Yeah. And maybe some... She hates it. I've tried. And maybe the worst energy drinks that'll kill you. Speaking of which. Yes, please break it out.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Break it out. In honor. In honor of the news today. In honor of America. By the way, this is... They're not affiliated with the show. I purchased this at the bodega down the street. Did you buy hollerhead with it? The flavor, by the way, is screaming with no G. Freedom. Screaming freedom. You know, I've always wondered
Starting point is 00:02:34 what does freedom taste like? Iced attention? I don't know. They should call one iced attention and have like, you know, that is Dana White's form energy brought to you. So the last one of these, the grape just blast, whatever it was. Yes. Yes. It was not bad, but just too sweet. Remember that was too sweet. All right. Let's, let's try this one. Here we go. This is screaming freedom, which apparently has, Oh my God, smells like robot Tussin and sour patch Kids. All right, here we go. It's like GHB and yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 00:03:09 That's great. We try one more of these. Yeah. It's better than the other one. Okay, it'll kill you just as fast. I just want you to know that. I now have type 2 diabetes. Okay, there it is.
Starting point is 00:03:22 There it is. So it's all right. It's lemony limey. I don't know. Is that freedom? I don't know There it is, there it is. It's alright, it's lemony-limey, I don't know, is that freedom? I don't know. That is freedom, it is. Why don't you like the show that you're watching? If you like what we bring to the table here, you can subscribe on YouTube. Shout out to everybody watching on the DraftKings network. And if all you audio only listeners were tickling your ear hole today.
Starting point is 00:03:40 So follow us, our YouTube channels, all of that. We also have a third member of this program. He's a producer, director, bong enthusiast, a pretty good boyfriend, and he comes to us by way of a horned Australian man's ball sack. Here's Luke Nocita of the Main Card Minute. What up, boys? How we doing? How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:03:59 I'm doing good. I had a nice weekend with the girl, you know, boyfriend of the year, hanging out. Did join Gaff on Saturday for a little PFL Yes, you guys need a single right? No, he's got a girlfriend man. She we've met her right same girl Oh, that's right. Same other four years. Yeah, she's tolerant I'll show me I just I don't mean to make fun of you guys But on the 4th of July weekend where everybody was out doing stuff. You're like, yo, let's do a PFL Mena live stream No, so gaffed a PFL Mena live stream. No, so gaffed PFL Mena on Friday.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I was celebrating 4th of July, but on the 5th of July, my girlfriend was working during the day. I said, gaff, I'll hop on your stream. We'll do some PFL Europe. So we had a good time. What was the peak viewership for that? Uh, that's a gaff question because it was on his YouTube. I don't actually know, but I think you can check Don Davis's LinkedIn for more.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You go, there it is. All right. Thank you, Luke. No seat. So someone take away Don Davis's phone for the love of God, please. We will be looking ahead today to the second half of the year in combat sports, hitting some weird headlines from the octagon on the White House lawn to ice catching up with old Chavez jr. What the hell's going on in this world, dude? This is the, as you indicated, this might be the strangest rundown we've ever put together, but it's real.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah, we've put together some weird ones for sure. We would like you, if you wanna wear our French Spectacular merch, I'm wearing it. Luke Thomas is wearing it as well with that great bomber jacket. Why don't you head over to morningcombat.shop? It's a new era for merchandise for MK, and we also have the new special edition.
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Starting point is 00:05:53 So a great way to support the show. Great way to walk around wearing your favorite podcast. It's not just a podcast, Luke, it's a lifestyle. It is. What we bring here. Can I tell you, I got two messages. From men who hate women? No, from, well they might, I mean I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I doubt it though. They didn't make that part clear. Yes. They definitely wanted us at their house. Ooh. Yeah. Now is this to potentially harvest our organs and or swap partners, or is this more of just like a live pocket?
Starting point is 00:06:25 I know that the swapping partners part is very important to you BC's like and the fine print it has to say I can bang or significant other They we didn't get that far along in the conversation, okay But I definitely had a couple people reach out being like if y'all are serious blah blah blah blah, so we're not like stay We're not like sleeping over. that's exactly what we're doing all right hardcore hardcore buddy i'm more into like softcore cinemax style if that's where you're going buddy no we'll see we'll see all right all right uh we might as well get into the actual show today right it's It's a weird one. It is a weird one. So get ready for topic number one. Here we go off the top.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Get this guys. President Donald J. Trump told us crowd of supporters in Iowa on Friday. That one year from now, July 4th, 2026, the 250th anniversary of this great country, the U S of A. What's better to break it in and to put a damn octagon on the lawn of the White House? We are talking about this. It's not clear how far along the planning for the event is or how definite it is that
Starting point is 00:07:37 it'll happen. And the UFC spokesman said more details would be released in due time, but this is very serious and very real. According to a report from NBC News here, I want to play first the video of Trump speaking this into existence, and then we'll get LT's live reaction. So every one of our national park battlefields and historic sites are going to have special events in honor of America 250. And I even think we're going to have a UFC fight. We're going to have — does anybody watch UFC?
Starting point is 00:08:10 The Great Dana War? We're going to have a UFC fight. We're going to have a UFC fight — think of this — on the grounds of the White House. We have a lot of land there. We're going to build a little — we're not. Dana is going to do it. Dana is great. One of a kind. We're going to have a UFC of land there. We're gonna build a little... We're not. Dana's gonna do it. Dana's great. One of a kind. Gonna have a UFC fight, championship fight,
Starting point is 00:08:28 full fight, like 20, 25,000 people. And we're gonna do that as part of 250 also. We're gonna have some incredible events, some professional events, some amateur events. But the UFC fight's gonna be a big deal too. And to f... Luke, like, what... What world are we living in? fight's going to be a big deal too. And to Luke like what? What world are we living in? This is so bizarre. Yeah
Starting point is 00:08:51 I'm not sure what to say about this to be perfectly honest I mean there's like a million things to say and then in one thing It's the sport that we cover for a living that pays our our family to eat is going extreme mainstream But it's aggressively extreme. Well, sort of. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:09:08 I would actually, before I even say anything, I would actually much rather hear from Long Island Luke on this one. Wow. Because, well, hell, here's what I basically get from this. I don't know his political affiliation, which is, I think, actually tells you a lot. I don't think it's a for part of his identity. I think his sensibility is much more in tune with like the common UFC fan So long Luke hearing this you're gonna president say that and then getting this news. What is your reaction to this?
Starting point is 00:09:33 This does nothing for me. I like I I don't know It's kind of like when turkey was like we're putting on a boxing event in Times Square like, okay cool That's it'll be nice scenery. but like you care about the fights right yeah What is that does nothing for me? Yeah? Yeah? I'm not that big into politics in general, so I feel like I'm really I feel like it really depends on who you ask to be perfectly honest with you if you ask MMA fans, I think I don't have the majority of them, but many of them would probably say hey That's pretty cool right. I, that's certainly a different scenery. I mean, it's not every day. Our country turns 250 years old. Like this is a kind of a major milestone moment. Sure. We're bringing that in with the damn octagon. Yeah. I mean, well, there's there's one question, which is what on earth does UFC have to do with with freedom? July 4th. It doesn't quite line up in that particular way, but lines up in that can can, right there. Screamin' freedom. That's what it is. So that being not a thing that we're focusing on,
Starting point is 00:10:32 I think MMA fans would probably say, and again, I cannot speak for them, but I'm just trying to read the tea leaves. They would say that it's certainly a cool backdrop. It's certainly a question or a marker of, to the point you raise, mainstream visibility. But I would actually argue that's not quite right. The UFC didn't get to the White House lawn such that it actually happens. And by the way, the UFC and the Trump administration both had said that the plans are serious, but they did put a little wiggle room in there that it may not happen or, you know, detail subject to change or we'll see.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So they're gonna give themselves a little bit out if they actually have to move it because I do wanna talk about the logistics of it. You can't put 25,000 people inside the fence, right? That's not smart. You could. What about that? You could. So I've recently been to the White House for the first time two years ago on family vacation.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And when you come from the side of the Washington Monument and walk that way, right? So that's there's South Lawn You're talking about there's that extra wide open field was that the ellipsis so it's called the ellipse. Yes lips, excuse me That's on the other side of East Street facing Constitution Avenue better to possibly put up some fences and so I look this up I actually looked this up. I actually looked it up last night. Has there ever been a sporting event that was basically controlled by the White House that took place either on the South Lawn or the ellipse? Outside of like a makeshift Special Olympics like baseball game.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah, I mean, President Clinton put a quarter mile track. Obama had a basketball court put in there. Clinton had like a blow job booth. You know, it was like a competition, but you know, yeah. That aside, like just indulging a president, and Nixon had like a blow job. Yeah, it's like a competition. But you know, that aside, just indulging a president and Nixon had obviously a bowling alley installed in the in the White House. But outside of that, the in the 19th century, the Washington senators actually played some games on the ellipse. It actually was a real it actually was a real thing.
Starting point is 00:12:18 But in terms of the South Lawn, it's like you can if you live in the area, they the the White House, no matter who the administration is, they'll put up every year for Easter egg. Oh, you don't for Easter. The Easter egg hunt little kids can sign up and then they do a lottery and then you can go. They do that. Obama had like a 2016 almost like a South by Southwest thing there had 2000 people on
Starting point is 00:12:36 there. It's an 18 acre property. You couldn't put it on the Lafayette Square side. You have to put it on the south wall side. You could do it. But this is one of the other questions I would have, which is that is a logistical nightmare because you are, you're going to have to close off key portions of downtown, which you can do but it's paying for this though. Right. Right. The US government or Turkey. I had
Starting point is 00:13:00 several friends lose their jobs in Doge cuts and I'm expected to believe this is an effective use of Taxpayer dollars that doesn't doesn't make a lot of sense to me if I'm just being honest with you What we need Turkey to come in and like who's if there's a benefactor? That's a little bit different more ill-fitted for the Oval Office Elon Musk high on ketamine or Turkey Turkey knows a little bit more about the fight game. That's true. I guess I would just say this. I think MMA fans are going to be real jazzed to have this kind of a placement in this celebration
Starting point is 00:13:34 to be on the White House to have MMA front and center. But the point I want to raise previously, which is the one is like, oh, it's like fully mainstream. Yeah, sort of, sort of. But not really the UFC didn't get to this place by staying with their big tent approach For most of my life. They had a big tent approach It didn't matter tall short white black rich poor southern Northern Western Eastern it didn't matter who you are
Starting point is 00:14:01 There was a the argument was there was a space for you inside MMA. That is not the claim that they make now. The claim that they make now is this is, I mean, they don't say this explicitly, but they have alienated, we've talked about this a million times, a portion of their fan base by going all in on one side decidedly. That's how they got here. And I just think the other thing I would ask folks to consider is, listen, I don't really know what's going to happen between now and next July, whether this will happen.
Starting point is 00:14:28 It might just be no big deal. It might be a huge deal. Again, I think for MMA fans, they're just focused on what kind of card are we going to get, right? And then that's, and then that looks kind of cool. And I understand that. I'm just going to say it again, dude, the UFC going all in on political polarization in the way that they are.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I don't know what the law and I'm saying this genuinely. I don't know what the long, and I'm saying this genuinely, I do not know what the long-term risks are. Makes me a little nervous for the long-term viability of the sport, it does. Makes me a little nervous that they would go, no, we're gonna go small tent and then hardcore focus on that. I don't know what that does.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I mean, it's like, I love MMA, but do I want an octagon on the White House grounds on the country's 250th birthday? And that's independent. You know, the fighters are going to win and then go absolutely fill a Trump. But that's it. I was going to say it's for me. It's independent of who's in office to me.
Starting point is 00:15:16 It's like it's so it's like everybody's kickback is. Oh, if you say anything negative about Trump being cage side and being worshiped at UFC events, then it means you automatically love the other side. I don't want Biden there. I don't want Obama there. I don't want any of those guys there. It's one thing to be in attendance and wave, and the camera goes on you, just like when a president's throwing out the first pitch from the front row of a crowd,
Starting point is 00:15:34 and then you don't see him again. I wonder, would this have the same... Like, is this... Is the reaction to this rooted specifically in how people react to that side of the political line or would the reaction be the same if it was Joe Biden? So I actually I didn't have a whole lot of a reaction. My friends who live in DC all texted me. They're like, you're going to go to this? And I'm like, I would be denied credentials on two levels trying
Starting point is 00:15:58 to get into this one. But but I actually read around the internet just to see what people said. And of course, the reactions fall on partisan lines too, right? So the right wing is pretty happy about it. The left wing considers this quite tacky in the end. The thing that I would just ask folks- It is tacky as shit, to be fair. It's a little monster trucky. A little monster trucky.
Starting point is 00:16:18 That's what I'm saying. It's like, what does that say about America? But in the end, I think the thing I would ask folks to consider is beyond some of the things we've already mentioned is just that what, again, I'm going to ask what on earth does this have to do with 4th of July? And like when we're celebrating this, are we actually celebrating the independence from the British or is this a way for a guy who's got, I'm sorry to bring this up and we can move on from it, but
Starting point is 00:16:44 the guy who's got, I'm sorry to bring this up and we can move on from it, but a guy who's got authoritarian tendencies to have praise lavished on him on his literal fucking lawn by a company that has no problem doing business with authoritarian regimes. Like it just feels to me like actually a pretty much a continuation of that on down the line. You know, I don't know. I don't know. So in the end, my view is wherever you fall politically, we'll absolutely color how this looks. The last thing I'll say is like when this kind of got announced, the least law abiding UFC fighters that we have, we're all like, me first. Let me be the first. So the one me first that got everybody fired up as they should was recently retired former two division champion and greatest of all time. John Jones, who pulled out of the possibility of a multi-year build toward a Tom Aspinal heavyweight title unification fight to then do this on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:17:39 which obviously felt like he was sticking a finger in the sore of all MMA fans. Not only is the, the I like this to in response to an AI image of John on the top of a cage wearing Apollo Creed trunks celebrating a victory over Tom Aspinall, maybe as a re recreation of the revolutionary war in some ways, you know what I'm saying? And then he put out, uh, that he's reentered the UFC testing pool with his quote of, figured we'd keep everyone's options open, end quote. If you're Dana White after what he just pulled, although for the record,
Starting point is 00:18:13 Dana did not dunk on him after he pulled the shit, right? Dana was sort of like, hey, it's up to him. I thought he took it pretty well, yeah. He took it pretty well, he moved on. If they allow John Jones back into the octagon, am I being a John Jones hater or what? I am I am I accurate in saying it's absolute bullshit for him to give up the heavyweight title Create a two-year soap opera Possibly live publicly according to Dana about the the specifics of that and then be like Oh fighting on the White House lawn
Starting point is 00:18:39 Dude, I'm back in let's go fuck off. Yeah, log off. Yeah fuck off Yeah, don't need to see you ever again. Goodbye. I'm back in. Let's go. Fuck off. Yeah. Log off and fuck off. Right? Don't need to see you ever again. Goodbye. I'm good No, I'm not not interested in him fighting not interested in storylines around him Didn't even want to put we actually Brian and I debated about how much we even wanted to put this in the rundown it seemed relevant enough that we couldn't ignore it but Less than zero interest in any of this and barley But I also think partly he there's two things happening One was this news about the White House the second part is that I think he just realizes that his retirement went really really bad
Starting point is 00:19:12 Oh, how could it and how it and everything that he thought was beautiful got torched Oh, you mean there was no video package talking about his greatness Yeah, and so and then the fans being like yeah good riddance like there was a lot of that I think he's trying to claw a little bit of dignity back if he can find some, but. So he still wants super fights with Derrick Lewis and Jamal Hill as he famously said. Absolutely uninterested in ever seeing him compete
Starting point is 00:19:33 in any facet whatsoever. Well, he's not the only person who were, I can't say largely uninterested because I've been trying to make fantasy matchups with Conor McGregor lately. I'm about to say, bitch. Just to use that name to put over the next superstar, but Conor McGregor also jumped at the opportunity to return at the White House
Starting point is 00:19:49 would be a very intriguing offer. It would bring me back in to focus on my return correctly. McGregor would also say Luke that after he wins the Irish presidency, the history of going to the U S and competing on the White House as the Irish president is what would motivate him. He didn't have that same motivation when he had a broken toe ahead of the Chandler fight. But is this the only way it's going to bring, like, you know, Michael Chandler's like, see you at the top?
Starting point is 00:20:16 Did he mean the top of Capitol Hill? Is that what he's talking about? Is this the only way we get McGregor-Chandler if it's headlining this White House paper card? It seems like that would, that to me, whether you're, there's one question about like, how interested are you in McGregor at all? By the way, by July of next year,
Starting point is 00:20:33 he'll either be, I think he'll be just days away from 38. Yeah. So I mean, we're talking old, right? Old, old. Independent of the question about whether or not you want to see him compete at all, it does though... I mean, if they go through with this, you would imagine he would be on the card if he actually made himself available, right? Let's put any political leanings or tackiness, which is really what I'm focused on. I mean, like, we're already so deep into combat sports
Starting point is 00:21:06 and politics being in just a gross marriage across the board that it's hard to avoid. So, but separate from those feelings, let's say this happens, and let's say as Donald Trump said, we want championship fights, we want, you know, big names on there. Like a good card. How do you book this, given the setting
Starting point is 00:21:20 and the connection to both America on America's 250th birthday and the political side of it are you putting only US stars in there because Don Davis put out a tweet that he got rightfully ripped for which was basically hey at Donald Trump saying hey here's a PFL supercard that could be the setup we could do PFL in the afternoon UFC at night and it was all of his Russian fighters basically you know what I mean linked together on there would this be American stars only would it be American against British to recreate that 1776 feel what the hell would we do here I don't know I don't get it I mean I can get
Starting point is 00:21:55 the Connor would be something of a Connor Chandler is the main event yeah I mean again Connor is also another reprehensible figure whose participation in the sport to me is absolutely unnecessary nor desired. But again, I would imagine that a number of the fans would disagree. So you would imagine he would be on there by virtue of sport significance. But I don't know how you matchmake the rest of it because you got Kayla as a champion. But how many more times is she going to compete? How much time does she have left?
Starting point is 00:22:24 Beyond that, I don't know. And it's like, even then it's like, well, what American contenders do you have? I mean, it'll be hard to say what you have nine months from now, because that would more closely mirror what you could do with the card. Do we not have any male American champions at the moment? We don't have any male, not no male American champions. So Kayla is the only female, right? Only one period.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Interesting. Yeah, that's it. So it's a little tough to say who would go on the card. Yes. Again, that's what I'm saying. Well then maybe if they did a Freedom card with all Freedom Avengers like Chandler and all these guys. Yeah, I mean I just don't quite get what this has to do with 4th of July. People just have parties on 4th of July and this is the White House lawn. But again, it'd be one thing if this was like at the Capital One Arena, just a few blocks away,
Starting point is 00:23:05 which would be an appropriate venue. This is on government property, and so therefore it takes on a different kind of significance. So it's a very confused thing to do. All right, is there a way that Dana could use John's interest in this, in backdooring him into agreeing to do the Aspinal fight a year from now?
Starting point is 00:23:22 John, you got a full year to get all your excuses out of the way. I don't even care about that fight. I fucking hate this so much. I don't even fucking care. Dude, fuck that fight. And I'm being dead serious. Fuck that fight. I don't care anymore.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Does Don Davis not realize that when he puts that aggressive, shameless tweet out there, when he gets off of LinkedIn long enough to put that tweet out there, that he's basically telling the world, we are number two. He's done, I guess, saying that we are the co-leaders. He's saying, we are number two and we will be the JV game before the varsity comes in later Yeah, it's it's the card itself that Don put together was actually kind of interesting It's the best that PFL actually has to offer and it's not a bad card But again, what the fuck does that have to do with 4th of July?
Starting point is 00:23:59 And then why are you trying to be the fluffer for the you know, the record it was what Francis versus? Vadim Nemkov in the main event. Then it was Usman versus Hughes part two is modern maga middle in the co-main Dakota ditch of a versus, uh, girl gorilla, excuse me, Liz Carmouche, and then, you know, further on their best against their best. Good card, Don, not bad. Horrible, shameless sort of linking to that. But, um, wow, wow. Hey, long Island Luke, would you want to see Connor?
Starting point is 00:24:27 I'm okay. Okay. So your whole number one thing is all right, you know, you don't really care about this kind of thing. And maybe it's not your cup of tea, but a good card is a good card. What does a good card to you for this kind of event look like? Not Connor at the top of it. Like actually good card.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I don't know. Just like if it's going to are we assuming it's going to be a pay-per-view or a fight night? It has to be a pay-per-view, right? I don't know. I don't fucking know. I don't know. I mean, this one. Who gets to go to it?
Starting point is 00:24:55 Is it is it the kind of thing like the Times Square card for Turkey where it's only billionaires and the White House property is again now, this would include parts you couldn't use, but in totality is 18 fucking acres. Like there is room to do room to you know they do a preacher of all people that were arrested in Jan six and they'd be pardoned publicly before the main event I actually joke when
Starting point is 00:25:13 they announced this I'm like instead of July 4th this should have been on January 6th right you're right by the way when Dana White or what not anyway I'm sorry when when Donald Trump made the speech that sent everyone to the Capitol he was at the ellipse just over the White House lawn to do that, by the way. So to me, it actually lines up the symmetry with Jan six is much tighter actually. But I forgot what I was going to say. It doesn't matter. It was probably about the front lawn and politics and who's going to be there.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Oh, it was saying the space is big enough to do. The question is not to me, the question is not do you have enough space? The question is, how much is that going to cost? And the logistics of getting 20,000 people onto White House property and off without a security incident, that is not, I mean, even if you're the most in favor of this, you have to recognize that is not a small operation. That is a very, it's literally never been done in the history of the country. Marine One fucking lands in that space. So like, I'm not saying they can't or shouldn't do it, but more like that is a tough... It's one thing if you go to T-Mobile or MSG where it's contained, you know the security protocol
Starting point is 00:26:19 and what has to be in place that's happened, which is why he can go to those and get out and there's really no issue. The White House law to me is obviously the security will be present, but it's a very, very, also by the way, small note, it rains in July in DC. So it's an outdoor event. You have to put a stage over. But Dana White hates doing that. Of course, but you know what's going to change that is when Crawford Cannello lives up to expectations from a production standpoint in the Leeds Stadium on that changes his being is going to wake up and go,
Starting point is 00:26:47 oh, shit, we can be, you know, TKO is going to get in his ear and be like, point, actually. Yeah, you might be right. Let's put Connor in a soccer stadium or some. The whole thing is weird. I don't know how you book it. You know, I'm sure they can do it, but it's weird. Are you down with the stipulation that to truly celebrate America, all the fights are U.S. citizens against non-US citizens,
Starting point is 00:27:05 and all losers get deported. I don't think the Hunger Games should be how we do official government policy, but God only knows what we'll do. What a topic, what a way to lead off this shit. By the way, I'm happy to not bring this shit up. This was the biggest news in the fucking sport. Like, what, you know what I mean? I'm waiting for the tweet, or sorry, the text from my parents that are gonna inevitably that's
Starting point is 00:27:26 gonna say hey you're covering the fight at the White House like you know you go no no that's that's not my thing that's in your backyard you should go to that I don't I don't believe in laundering fascism personally so I'll skip that one all right all right well let me tell you about what's a good time if you put the camera on me you know when is a good time. If you put the camera on me, you know, when is a good time right now? You know what for how about to remember where tequila story actually began. You know, I'm talking about talking about 1795 when Cuervo invented tequila. Since then, wherever I stayed true to its roots.
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Starting point is 00:28:27 It's hurrying. It's in New Orleans. It's Dustin Pauly ways retirement fight in a trilogy against Max Holloway and UFC 318 is the last time we'll see poor a step foot into that octagon. So the easiest way for you, the MK viewer to get in on the action and win some real cash, how about you download that pick six app from draft Kings right now. Draft Kings, the official daily fantasy partner of the UFC. It's crazy simple folks. Just pick more or less on the stats of two of your favorite fighters. We're talking about combined strikes, take downs, all the stat
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Starting point is 00:29:38 must be 18 plus. Age and eligibility restrictions vary by jurisdiction. Pick 6 not available everywhere including New York and Ontario. Void were prohibited for additional terms and reasonable excuse me, for additional terms and responsible gaming resources. See pick six dot draft kings dot com slash promos. Thank you very much. If we're going more or less on total strikes from Max Holloway, I'm going more. All right. I would definitely take the take the over on that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:59 By the way, what is your feeling about that one? That one go the distance? I don't know. I mean, in theory, yes, it should should they're both warriors they fought twice already both times have gone the distance but you never know in a retirement fight situation is Poirier gonna go balls to the wall is gonna show up old you're not really sure okay long on Luke obviously the odds are what will dictate how you would bet but what would you anticipate the betting being like in terms of whether the fight goes long or not? I did peek at them a few weeks ago
Starting point is 00:30:27 and it was in Pickham and I think like odds aside Dustin's already beaten him twice it's his retirement fight it's in New Orleans a lot of things are making me point to Dustin here. No but I'm saying do you think it goes the full distance? Oh then yeah I do. Just as easy as that. Also, I want to remind you that nine days from now, right? Wednesday, July 15th. Am I right on my date, sir? 16th. Sorry, 16th. Wednesday, July 16th, nine days from now in this studio.
Starting point is 00:30:57 It's a Wednesday, 11 a.m. Eastern time. UFC 318 pregame preview brought to you by Cuervo. LT, BC. Jed Meshew II. That's right. Let's go. We're all gonna get lice. Let's go, you by Cuervo LTBC. Jed Meshew, the second. That's right. Let's go. We're all going to get lice. Let's go. OK. Cuervo for everybody. Hey, let's go to topic number two. Another weird one. Fresh off of his unanimous decision loss to Jake Paul, in which he really didn't box at all
Starting point is 00:31:17 for four rounds and didn't start punching until there was only two rounds to go. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. was detained by ICE over the weekend and is set for deportation to Mexico, where he is reportedly wanted for activity related to the Sinaloa cartel. Various reports suggest he might have acted as something of an enforcer for the cartel.
Starting point is 00:31:40 While these charges are serious, there's some real questions here, including why was this fight between Paul and Chavez allowed to go forward when the information was known before the fight of Chavez's whereabouts and his situation with the government? that was a extended connection to the Sinaloa cartel through El Chapo. And there's some reports, as I mentioned, that he was used as a muscle man, a body, to rough some people up. We've got some Homeland Security comments here, and then we can react to this. This is a wild-ass story.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I can't believe this story. What does it say there off the top? You take off the DHSGov watermark? Well, all right. ICE arrested Mexican boxer and criminal illegal alien alien Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. He is now being processed for expedited removal from the United States. This Sinaloa cartel affiliate, well, they're making some broad declarations about something that hasn't been proven in court, but okay, has an active arrest warrant in Mexico. That might be true for sure. For his involvement in organized crime and trafficking firearms,
Starting point is 00:32:42 involved in an organized crime and trafficking firearms, ammunition and explosives under President Trump. No one is above the law, including world famous athletes. Our message to any cartel affiliates in the U.S. is clear. We will find you and you will face consequences. The days of unchecked cartel violence are over." End quote. We also have video of Chavez Jr. getting captured from a home that he owns outside of Los Angeles there.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Wild stuff. So, look, the biggest question here is related to the timing of this. It seems like it was a proof. I don't think that's the only question. OK, but it does seem like it's a proven fact that they were investigating him leading up to the fight. They knew his whereabouts. They knew the situation. They waited for the fight to continue.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Is that a call that Jake Paul makes to the White House and says, can we wait until after this or does he not have any knowledge? And this is a surprise to him because Is that a call that Jake Paul makes to the White House and says, can we wait until after this or does he not have any knowledge and this is a surprise to him? Because it's a shocker to see this play out and this gentleman get deported who, I mean, it's tough to say anything good about Chavez Jr. right now
Starting point is 00:33:35 or the last 12 years of his career and he certainly didn't give himself the best chance to win when he fought Jake Paul just a week and a half ago. What the hell is this? Let me just say this. To me, the ICE component is really not even remotely the most interesting or even relevant or even part I even care to discuss.
Starting point is 00:33:53 It's the cartel association for me. Now, again, there have been a number of reports alleging connections as you indicated that there would be guys that the cartel would have some issue with, hang them down and they again the allegations are that Chavez would box him up like a body bag as they hung upside down and his baby mama is somehow related is related to El Chapo so to me you know the fact that I scrapped him up and put him in detention is, you know, grabs headlines, but these are allegations.
Starting point is 00:34:27 And so I want to be very clear. I don't his I saw Mexican media over the weekend because I went and tried to find what anybody was saying. His dad and his family put out a statement. His dad did an interview on the street actually, and then his family put out a statement. They're claiming he's innocent and this will all be proven. You know, of course your response might be that, well, of course, you know, yeah, family is gonna say that.
Starting point is 00:34:47 So I don't know how to respond to these allegations except to say this, BC. If they are true, like that he acted as some kind of a thug, trafficker, an enforcer of some kind for the cartel, even as like an affiliate, now he's not really in it, but you know, next to it. Would that really surprise you? No, it wouldn't surprise me either. I think that's the takeaway for me is like, I don't know if they're true.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And if he is innocent, I do hope that I'm not remotely surprised that he's connected to this. The question is, why would they let the fight go forward? I have no way of answering. I mean, there's similar. I guess the thing that it reminds me of is in 2012 when Floyd Mayweather was sent to go to jail for domestic violence. That's so much smaller. This is an international arrest warrant. Right, but the state of Nevada, the commission in Las Vegas, they basically decided, let's
Starting point is 00:35:35 push Floyd's jail sentence to start back a month so that he can fight Coto first. And the justification was that that pay-per-view would bring in so many millions to the city and hotel and gambling and all that That we were just like what you're gonna delay his jail sentence so that the everyone can make money off him Is this similar to that? Did the government make that decision of let's let him go forward with the fight against you know? America's Jake Paul first he was gonna lose and it's just bizarre to me. I mean Again, this is one of those things where it's like, I don't know how you have these conversations without some degree of a political... But he's showing up to the way and he's showing up to the press
Starting point is 00:36:12 conference. They know where the frick he is. How tight are Jake Paul and Trump? I have a serious question. How tight are they? Do you remember Inauguration Day when Jake Logan and Conor McGregor were in the van with me all going to the so what he got invited big deal It doesn't mean that much. Okay, I think that means a lot Not mean a lot who else was there? He's a respected booster that doesn't necessarily mean that he has a bat phone he can call the admin and Tell them about his interests. Okay, you know, I don't I don't know. I don't know part of me wonders like
Starting point is 00:36:43 Did they know about it and that they saw Jake was a booster and they're like, wait till the money is made and then do it. That is one. But that's just a conspiracy theory. I don't have any, I don't even have the slightest degree of proof to- No, but it came out in the news that the government was monitoring this. Yes, that's true. They were monitoring. They knew that it wasn't a surprise to them that he showed up on TV and they're like, oh, we got to go get him now. Like they knew- That's right. There is, again, it's just but that certainly to the point that this whole thing went down, it raised deep amounts of suspicion about what was known and when, and then also with Chavez Jr.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Dude, this guy, I mean, it was an uninspiring pick when Jake, you know, selected him for any number of reasons, but part of it was, remember he had gun charges previously related to the, you know, getting out of rehab. And he had a work visa in the States, but part of it was, remember, he had gun charges previously related to the, you know, getting out of rehab. And he had a work visa in the States, I think, two years ago, but it expired. It expired, like the guy is a fuck up of epic proportions. So it would not surprise me if after he has his day in court,
Starting point is 00:37:39 these charges are proven. Like I would not in any way be surprised, but the whole thing is fucking wacky. The whole thing is weird. It's another epic stain on the downhill slide of Chavez Jr. He is the opposite of his dad. He is the absolute opposite. And every fucking way. Well, I mean, his dad also post-career got involved in a lot of drugs
Starting point is 00:37:57 and a lot of craziness, not to this level, but it didn't derail his life like this. Sure. Sure. I mean, this was like I'm not going to say it's an international manhunt. That's not right. I mean, they probably knew his whereabouts, but like this. Sure. Sure. I mean, this is like I'm not going to say it's an international manhunt. That's not right. I mean, they probably knew his whereabouts, but like this is international. One country telling another one, we've got a warrant for this guy for cartel behavior. Send us him now.
Starting point is 00:38:14 That is another level. Back to back set of topics. I can't believe this. I can't believe this is real life, but this is where we are. There we go. I mean, there's not much else to say besides, I guess, I'm not surprised, but also, like, can we get in on this timeline and figure out the decision making? Even if he's exonerated, like, so this is a serious question.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Let's say they're going to send him back to Mexico. He's going to have whatever's going to happen to him. But let's say that the family is right and this was somehow, I don't know, a misunderstanding. Even with that, is he ever going to fight in the States again? I don't know, a misunderstanding. Even with that, is he ever gonna fight in the states again? I don't see how. Right? If he gets deported, I don't see how unless. Well, just because you get deported
Starting point is 00:38:51 doesn't mean there's no way back. So he can reapply for a work visa in a certain. I just don't know what, like this was the last carnival fight opportunity to get in shape and make a little bit of money. Yeah. He got in shape, he made the little bit of money, he barely fought, so he's a full-time con artist as a fighter even without this it might have been what's left there until or?
Starting point is 00:39:09 You know is it gonna box Annie's and Gibb? I mean like what's next like where else do you go from here? There's really nowhere else to go unless you're gonna do like BKFC or offer yourself in an MMA fight. I don't know like that I'm just saying even even if he's exonerated. I feel like It's done. It's done. it's long, it's long done. Wow. Let's go to topic number. We have a fucking topic that isn't terrible. Well, we got another one that might be done. Hey, let's talk about one championship in the unfortunate slide
Starting point is 00:39:35 that the promotion continues to go on. You heard when when good old acts from MMA draw broke that one championships run on in the States, at least on prime video seems to be coming to an end. Well, now we have some financial updates about more of an aggressive decline. Reports indicate that one championship has a consolidated loss of 90 million dollars in 2023 and, quote, cumulative deficits now exceeding 530 million against just 24.6 million in net assets at year end. End quote that comes from journalist Timothy Wheaton who we of course have had on the show in the past. Shasta Tim. To preview some big events down there in
Starting point is 00:40:14 one championship and in general kickboxing. Oh no we haven't for that for the big uh which fight was that? It was the one fight the kickboxing fight under the one banner. Yes. Luke There's been an exodus recently of executive leaders of fighters rotting to carry cancelled events Virtually any other marker of decline that one can point to what is the story in your eyes of one's decline? And what does it mean for MMA that they are almost certainly going out of business at a time when they're less and less being considered In an MMA promotion. Yeah, the end is near. The end is near. Put the graphic back up if you could, Long Island. Look, I want to go through it here piece by piece. You indicated the cumulative 530 million in total losses
Starting point is 00:40:55 since the inception, but there's other parts to the story. We won't go through the whole part of it, but very quickly, the QIA, the Qatar Investment Authority, they are apparently not thrilled with the way in which their investment has gone. The Amazon Prime video and Turner Sports component, they're a basic, well, Turner has already exited and appears that Prime is- And they kinda canceled their US expansion
Starting point is 00:41:16 in line with that. That's right, and now that's not to say they're getting out of MMA because they may wanna get into the UFC business, they're rumored to be part of that conversation, but- Wait, what do you mean get into the UFC business. They're rumored to be part of that conversation. Wait, what do you mean get into the UFC business? Amazon Prime is considered to be a potential destination for UFC pay-per-views, yeah, for the next TV deal.
Starting point is 00:41:31 The e-sports thing folding, I don't think is a big deal. Also, you can see that Chaudhuri had public outbursts and feuds with both Japanese fighters and promotions, which I don't think did him a great degree of good, but they had to cancel their August show and rebooked it for a year later. Will he still do the apprentice reality show? Season four, whatever it is, three, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:51 But there's been staffing exodus, there's been layoffs, there's been key executives who've left. Thank you for the graphic. I mean, you get the idea, like, BC, this is the beginning of the end, or some portion of the end. It's not really far away at this point. And the thing that I would take away from this, this is just a lesson that I draw.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Everyone's going to have different ones. Every time I cannot tell you how many MMA organizational deaths I have lived through. I have lived through countless of them. Bellator being the most recent, but it goes on long, long, long before that. reason, but it goes on long, long, long before that. And I do not mind in any way, shape or form have any issue pointing to Chotri or other decisions that were made in that organization as a reason for their woes, like to a degree self-inflicted. There's simply no question about it. And as you saw on that graphic card, one of those reasons was this feuding that he gets into with sometimes Japanese fighters and promoters, although it's not just limited
Starting point is 00:42:50 to them. And did they just recently move the home office? They moved it to Thailand, yes, which is obviously going to be a lot cheaper than Singapore. But that I don't think is the biggest deal in the world. But the point I want to make is BC, there is no possible way anyone can make the argument to me that Oscar De La Hoya is a better promoter than Chaudry. Absolutely know the fuck he is not. And yet he is still quite profitable in boxing. And part of that reason, of course, is because the way in which that business is structured
Starting point is 00:43:22 that allows for more robust competition. People are gonna clown one and there's plenty of reasons to do that. But BC, the UFC getting into this grappling push, to me was heavily influenced by the work one did first. In fact, they took, well, Mikey Musumechi left, but Mikey Musumechi got on the MMA fans' radars by virtue of what happened at one.
Starting point is 00:43:43 One doing four ounce Muay Thai has been something of a revelation. It would not surprise me at all if you see American and potentially even UFC promoters getting into four ounce, if not Muay Thai, some kind of four ounce kickboxing. The complete combat monopsony takeover. So my point being is, one, actually with their rule set
Starting point is 00:44:02 and some of the changes that they made to how an MMA product can look I said this before they were the one true alternative to the UFC in ways that PFL could never be They can't manage their business both because of the nature of the industry as well as their own errors But they did make some important contributions. It's just I hope everyone can read the writing on the wall They're not they're not gonna be here too much. You can can read Timothy Wheaton's Low Kick MMA story that goes in deeper depth on their financial woes. How much is this tied to what we talked about last week
Starting point is 00:44:32 from the from the standpoint of that UFC grip on the industry and how it essentially is suffocating all potential in the states, at least it's suffocating all potential. Well, the bummer here, I mean, I guess here's another thing that one did that I think is kind of interesting. One was able to work in conjunction with a willing commission in this particular case, Colorado, to have a different rule set.
Starting point is 00:44:55 This is what I mean, if you were like, oh, Chattery is a terrible promoter. Again, I'm not gonna sit here and be like, he's a great promoter, but he is definitely not worse than some very profitable boxing promoters. And you cannot deny one has been an interesting contributor with rule differences, product differences, differentiation, a lot of things that I think other promoters are going to pick up on when they can to bring differences to the space. They were leaders in that way. And if there was a different kind
Starting point is 00:45:22 of market to the point you're raising, some of that might have succeeded. But that's just not the world we're in anymore. So guys like this will just, again, he's got plenty of problems, plenty of problems. But I, you know, I don't know, man, I'm going to miss the one product when it's gone. Like there's not, who's just like one right now in MMA. There one? There isn't one. One on one, Luke. One on one, Luke, how much of a one, I'm not gonna say fan, but watcher of their events have you been? I own Amazon Firestick, so when I open it,
Starting point is 00:45:55 it'll like at the banner up top show me that one is live, but up until I see that banner that it's live, I have no idea it's even happening. Is that right? Yeah. I will watch Friday mornings, the Muay Thai those brothers deliver right and early those are the do those deliver these are three awful topics yeah we need a palate cleanser real bad can we show people are honest for negativity
Starting point is 00:46:15 which is which is real but I'm like what were the other stories relevant breaking news oh oh let's hear these Matt Cameron leaving Pearl Jam after 27 years as their drummer That's a BC BC. What's your take? That's pretty big. That's pretty big. Yeah. Why what happened? He was in Soundgarden. He was in Perlja. I don't know what happened I just got an email from Pearl Jam saying that that camera does the band email you I'm on the fan club, you know, you know, I'm back Jack Irons, right? Yeah, dude. Let's do it What was the guy him on no code right? Wasn't that's do it. What was the guy? I'm on no code, right? Wasn't that the one he put those rhythms on those? I'm pretty sure yeah
Starting point is 00:46:48 Who was the guy who left the Beatles before they were the Beatles Stewart Sutcliffe? That was his name? Yeah He was the bassist and art student Yeah, what are you talking about the original drummer Pete Best Pete Best? That's the one Pete Best. That's the one I always think yeah, yeah Ringo replaced him. Yeah, he fucked that up real proper Didn't he he did but he got to live the rest of his life being the you know the trivia question Yeah, yeah, the fifth beetle or night. You're saying they kicked him out Who Pete Oh Pete best yeah like they did uh like they did Jason newst No, no, who's the guitar Dave Mustaine? Yeah, like Metallica did Dave Mustaine
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yes, they got you this bus ticket to the middle of fuck balls Kansas have a nice day or that time dying fetus kicked that child porn guy out of the oh no that was cannibal corpse he was that child porn he had a skull in his possessions he was having mental problems you think he had glass jars filled with snakes like a whole room of just snakes let me say something if you own snakes You're a weird motherfucker Okay, do you think we have members of our audience who who own multiple stay for the last time? I said that I had about four or five DMS from snake owners
Starting point is 00:47:58 Assuring me that they were correct you think they can win our MK in your house that they were correct. You think they can win our MK in your house set contest where you. Wow. I was going to say everyone competing to have MK in their house definitely owned snakes. I tell you what, I tell you what, I could be convinced to go into that house, that house of literally the House of Snakes. I could be convinced.
Starting point is 00:48:23 All right. Hey, we have a fucking topic that's not. Let's go to topic number four. This one should be better. We are at the. Yeah,akes. I could be convinced. All right. We have a fucking topic that's not. Let's go to topic number four. This one should be better. We are at the. Yeah, here we go. We're at the midway point of the combat sports calendar in 2025. It's been a wild for six months.
Starting point is 00:48:35 A lot still to be determined from the standpoint of the business end of things. But as we look, a lot of media outlets, of course, are putting out their half year awards fighter fighter of the year, fight of the year at the midway point. Let's try a little something different by looking ahead. This year is indeed half over. So what do you want to see, Luke, in combat sports for the remainder of 2025?
Starting point is 00:48:57 This could be fights, events, rule changes, more breasts on TV, whatever you're into. Titties put together a list when we both did of our top three biggest priorities for the rest of the year. So I thought a lot about this one. I've got I got a wish list. I got three as well, because that was the that was the assignment. All right. You're like, I got 17 because I'm well, I was thinking as like,
Starting point is 00:49:20 is there a rule change I'd like to see go through? Is there some kind of, you know, special event? But like Canelo Crawford's gonna scratch a few of those itches, so no. I could have put that on there, just the fallout of Canelo Crawford and what that can do to UFC stadium fights, which is- You seem to be a big believer that that could do a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I do, I do. Yeah? Those are cultural events, dude. I agree. Those are time and place, you know? I've said this, dude, Canelo Crawford being on Netflix and the way It's going is Exactly what American box and these but it's already on the list so I can't sure can this all right?
Starting point is 00:49:50 Why don't you give me number three what do you got all right for number three? This is again? This is aspirational yes, Francis and gone who versus Tom Aspinal. Let's go Francis and gone versus Tom Aspinal Let's go who the fuck doesn't want to see that what okay? If that was to happen in the second, or not even just to happen, but to be announced in the second half of 25, what would have to happen for that to become a reality? Would Francis have to end the PFL deal in some form?
Starting point is 00:50:16 Yeah. That's the only way. He would, which would not be great, but- And then they'd have to tell Dana, you're sitting this one out. Oh, you mean TKO? TKO would be like, Dana, you're kind of out on the issue with that is Francis can do well on pay-per-view, but not necessarily as the A side.
Starting point is 00:50:31 He works well as a very good B side. So I can see why TKO wouldn't necessarily put pressure on Dana. But let's just put that to the side. Co-promotion window is not going to work. But it's at least conceivable that with six months, six months ish left in the year, you could get Francis back in UFC. Tom Aspinall even said this week, there ain't many guys out there for him to fight. He goes, I think he even said the division's not exactly on fire. He knows, he knows Francis and gone over says Tom Aspinall, it would not last
Starting point is 00:50:59 very long, but for as long as it lasted, like BC on prom night, he's going to give you all the pump and he's got, I would love to see Francis and gone over. So Tom Aspin, that is a great one for number three right there. I like that. All right. Number three, it's very simple, even though I broke the rule in the opening topic of the show and I break it regularly as a collective fan media member in, in combat sports, but specifically UFC. Less talk and jockeying about John Jones and Conor McGregor,
Starting point is 00:51:29 more talk and jockeying about Ilya Toporya and Islam Mahachev. And obviously that plays into the idea of, hey, UFC, promote your stars, build two big fights. I want to be looking at Ilya versus Islam as the UFC's version of Mayweather Pacquiao. It's probably going to take over a year to build to there due to them being in separate divisions in Islam, needing to fight for that welterweight title. But Luke, I fall victim of this all the time. Oh, it's a dead, you know, it's an in-between week. What are we going to talk about?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Oh, well, Conor just tweeted this. John just tweeted this. As Rick Pitino once famously said, Kevin McHale, Robert Peres are not coming through that door. Okay, Larry Bird not coming through that door. Their era is over. They've worn out their space in the headlines. Let's build up what we have now. What we have now, whether you're talking about Ilija and Islam, Jack Delamandel, like there's a new breed that's here.
Starting point is 00:52:18 DDP is breaking out as a star. Marab, although he's in his mid to late 30s, is on top of his game. Let's build the next stars of the future and let's build the next, the roads to get to those big super fights. And obviously Elia versus Islam is a big one in that regard. Let's, can we put the past away, Luke? Because I do wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend. There you go. Cut ties with all the hey Oasis came back this weekend did they not? Yeah, wild weekend. Black Sabbath last show ever. Oasis makes a big return and people are emoting like crazy. It was a soundtrack to my to my teens. I don't mind a little Oasis. I like Oasis. Alright, can I go number two? Well, not not in my seat, not
Starting point is 00:52:59 in my seat. Sir, this is Joseph A Banks.. Sure, over there, you know. Dude, I have to go back there and then commemorate the shit with another one. That'd be so fucking great. Can I tell you that story? What? We used to vacation when I was a kid in New Hampshire, like when in Pasakia, as a lot of people did, right? Laconia, New Hampshire, that whole area. My dad used to go out there for motorcycle trips every year.
Starting point is 00:53:23 He always told us as a kid about this place this ice cream place called Sawyers in which one time Okay, he absolutely tore up like tore up like he said people were coming into the restroom and then going oh my god I'm like watching out like he tore up one time like a Joseph a bank style like like quadruple flusher, and he told for years about the Sawyers Massacre and he's like one of these days We're gonna go back there. We're gonna go on vacation. I'm gonna show you the spot of the Sawyers Massacre You know, which is just you know growing up white trash. These are things you care I like how he's treating it like a slave rebellion that belongs in the history Yes, like come see this historic location where he almost killed someone
Starting point is 00:54:01 All right, sorry about that. We show up a couple years later, okay, at this Sawyer's ice cream place outside of Lake Winnipeg and I'm like, Dad, where is it? We walk inside, he's like, hold on, I'll show you, it's over here. We go over to where the bathroom door was. The door is still there, but they've painted over it and they removed the bathroom. And I'm like, Dad, you really did shut it down. This is incredible. He forced them to relocate the commode. the entire building you know what you know what you know what respect to a proud
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah, please respect. Oh wait. I took a dump here before the show and I get out I had to go wash my hands There's a guy who pissed who let who had an open drink like this like with a can and left it on the counter I'm like, dude, I just farted particles, like straight up aids into the air and you're just drinking that in? Straight up form freedom. All right, give me your number two, please. Number two. It's aspirational, BC. It's aspirational with the minimal time we have left. And I know one of these guys has, well, both of these guys are supposed to have fights coming up, but I guess we'll see but before the end of the year
Starting point is 00:55:09 my aspirational was lit wish list Gervonta Davis versus Shakur Steve, let's go right. How could you go wrong with this one? I in fact to these two guys I think are the best in class in this general weight vicinity. Let's put it We know tank is supposed to fight Lamont Roach in August, but that even hasn't been formally announced. I don't know if that's gonna happen. Shakur has a fight coming up this weekend. William Cepeda, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Where Turkey is doing shit posting around it and it's very annoying. What the hell's going on there? I don't know, but this is the one that's most interesting because Shakur to me is more skillful than Tank, but Tank is I think underrated in his skill and clearly the dominant puncher between the two. more skillful than tank, but tank is, I think, underrated in his skill and clearly the dominant puncher between the two.
Starting point is 00:55:47 How this one would go to me is very, very interesting. And certainly for the American boxing fan in this audience, this would be a real like Canelo Crawford. I'm not saying to be the same level, but like that a nice shot in the arm to really get it going again. Tank versus Shakur. I was on my wishlist. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I love that and it ties perfectly into my number two, which is the rejuven get it going again. Tank versus Shakur as my wish. Okay, I love that. And it ties perfectly into my number two, which is the rejuvenation of American boxing. I need a shot in the arm of American boxing and that can be a few things. It can be a soft landing for the prominent American boxing promoters that right now as we look at the state of Boxing's broadcasting landscape. We don't know where Top Ring is going to go after their ESPN deal concludes at the end of this month. You hear rumors about PBC's future. Luke, obviously, for all of these American promoters, we'd like we'd love a soft landing
Starting point is 00:56:30 for them and their fighters. And I think just in general. Look, Saudi's playing a big role in this. Turkey's playing a big role in boxing. And we can get on certain parts of it that we don't like, but it's doing a lot of good in the same regard. But our fights like Brian Norman, Jr. versus Devin Haney better off in Riyadh or are they better off at the Barclays Center, right?
Starting point is 00:56:46 Or are they better off at Phillips Arena and State Farm Arena in Atlanta? Like my whole point is there are ways we can reinvigorate American boxing again. Maybe Canelo Crawford in Las Vegas will be a big part of that, but I'd like to see the health restored. Turkey's Ring Magazine series has been on American soil almost exclusively except for that first one with Eubank and Ben. And it's not that the U.S. needs to be the center of the boxing universe at all times,
Starting point is 00:57:14 but when you do disregard it, we know about the competition. People is like, why does the U.S. not support their homegrown boxers like they do in the other smaller countries? Because the competition field is too wide for people's attention in pro sports, scripted TV shows, all of that. There are some things that can be done subtly to rebuild the strength of American boxing.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And some of that Luke is the reputation of the core key young American boxers. It's been a rough time for the four princes, the five, six kings, the four horsemen, whatever the hell you want to call them. All of them have had their own kind of setbacks of late to either the reputation or on their record. I'd like to see a return for these guys in a big way to get back to not just their winning ways, but to make big fights and particularly do them on US soil and big arenas in which the fans can show up. I mean, I'm not against the Turkey experiments of Times Square in general. That one turned out to be a failure for the boxing can show up. I mean, I'm not against the turkey experiments of Times Square in general. That one turned out to be a failure
Starting point is 00:58:07 for the boxing portion of it. But let's get it right in the States. Let's make boxing big again. And if this is Turkey season to control boxing, then let's put on really big events in the US like he's a big part of with Canelo Crawford. And let's get to- But not in Alcatraz.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Like just do it in a way that's accessible. I mean, I don't even need this tennis stadium, although like it's a unique effort. He's gonna give it a try Let's see what happens, but let's go back to like if Ryan Garcia is fighting Let's do it in the states in a city where you know people are gonna turn up. Let's make American boxing healthy Yeah, and I think to do that to me. It's like I understand that like, you know time square and Alcatraz He sound exotic, but I don't know how well that works You know, I think what's gonna work a he sound exotic, but I don't know how well that works, you know? I think what's gonna work a lot better is to your point Barclay Center,
Starting point is 00:58:48 MSG, places that fans know and love and are suited for this kind of a thing. You put on great fights and you put them in big venues, I promise you everything is gonna go healthy all the way downstream. All right BC, for my number one, healthy all the way downstream. All right BC, for my number one, y'all convinced me. I put my ear in the words of Good Will Hunting, I put my ear to the grindstone, I listened.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I was convinced on this one. You went to therapy? It's not your fault, Luke. It's definitely not your fault, all right? In all seriousness, I would love in 2025 if by January 1, 2026 we can say, you know, what was so fucking awesome about this year? How about Ilya Tupori versus Islam? Oh, come on. Come on. Let's go into this calendar year
Starting point is 00:59:37 Show us that you're building the bridge if they could even like, you know, oh in December, you know in February Whatever. We're gonna do Ilya and Islam. I would even take the confirmation of the news in 2025 as like one of my things on my wishlist. When they make, when they make Jack Delamadelina defending against Islam Mahachev, whether that's October Abu Dhabi, NYC in November, we need Ilya Tupa in the front row? Do we need him coming in and facing off, even if that wouldn't be the next fight, just to continue to tell that story and build?
Starting point is 01:00:10 Listen, I know Dana was upset with Patty being in the cage. I wasn't. I thought that, not that he was my first choice for the title shot, but just that they were trying to promote that way. I was two thumbs up for me. Give him something to talk about. Give him something to talk about. Give them something to talk about.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Give them a story. Would you have consummated with her at a prime? Who? Bonnie Raitt? No, dude, what? I was wondering if you would give her something to talk about, okay? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:36 I'm not typically. People are people, talking about people. I'm not typically into banging hags. Okay, back to the MMA talk, go ahead. That really derailed me. Now I have to collect my brain. Okay, but to the point I'm trying to raise, I don't even need to sell the fight as a fight.
Starting point is 01:00:53 But as an event, how big it could be. It's a rivalry, let's go. It's a rivalry, and it's one where like, the stakes are obviously huge, but there's deep intrigue about the fight itself too, and how it would go, and what it would look like. And just what it could do for MMA. You know, again, you can have your thoughts about the Trump thing at the UFC at the White House, that would be a big event. But I'm talking about, you know, we couldn't figure out what fights would go on there because we're just trying to
Starting point is 01:01:17 like noodle. This fight is would be enormous in scale. BC, Ilya versus Islam in 2025, or let's say first quarter of 2026. How many pay-per-view buys does that sell? It's, it's hard to say in modern times, especially two guys who are just hitting their, well, not, I mean, Topori is just hitting the early peak of his true crossover stardom. Yeah. Islam has had that habib rub and made it his own as pound for pound king for a while. I don't know if that's the right decider on how big this would be in the modern day, because I mean,
Starting point is 01:01:50 do you hear what DC said publicly? He doesn't think any fight is going to get about. But people have been complaining about piracy since the invention of piracy. So that's not necessarily the but my thing is like if UFC is going to Netflix in some form in their next deal, which seems likely. That is the kind of fight so right off to kick off that
Starting point is 01:02:08 air. So right and a damn. So right. You're so right. And it's not OBC. You're always rubbing pro wrestling back on this guy's promotion is pro wrestling fight promotion is right. Like that's what it is one of the hardest the pageantry the sport the storytelling the getting people to care about
Starting point is 01:02:24 two people's stories that are coming together to consummate it and figure it out, right? We don't know if we're fucking or fighting. No, we're fighting. That's what we're doing. Get people involved in those stories, right? That's how you sell fights. I didn't get to the sport via pro wrestling. I got to it through martial arts. So it took me a while to I was in denial about this for a long time.
Starting point is 01:02:40 MMA is real pro wrestling. That's what it is. It's it's it's obviously real. It's obviously unscripted. It's obviously a real sport. And you can enjoy it however you want. But the model that it's based off of is pro wrestling. They just made it real. So why not lean into that a little bit, especially when you've got basically number one, number two in the freaking world in this particular instance, fighting. All right. Let's go to my number two in the freaking world in this particular instance fighting. All right. Let's go to my number. And that's a great your list is great.
Starting point is 01:03:08 It's all optimistic stuff that we want. Let's do it. I'm still yet stuck trying to fix the issues in the sports with my three optimistic hopes. And my number three is the separation of of church and state and combat sports between boxing and MMA and world governments. It is out of control right now. Not and it's not just the the right wing evil march of Trump in,
Starting point is 01:03:29 whether you love it or you hate it. It's just like, let's get back to the fights. Let's, I'm sick of that every week. We're talking about the effect on this certain fight. What does that have on the sports washing of this nation? Or how close are we to UFC Moscow with Putin and Kudairov cage side? Luke, we are at a point where it's never been. I want to say it's never been this colluded, you know, of this much of a marriage,
Starting point is 01:03:53 but that's not always true because whether it's the rumble in the jungle or the thrill in Manila, a lot of those fights are going to those exotic nations for political reasons, but it's become a headline story in everything that we do. And maybe some of that is on us to not harp on that and push that aside and focus more on what we're actually here for, which is the fights, the fighters and the storylines and all that. But I'm really sick of, of government contracts and, oh, we're going to this scary nation just because they paid us more.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And, and I, what am I asking for, for that to end? Maybe some of it is just our focus on it, but using combat sports as a way to further political strategies, whether it's this nation or others. I don't like the taste of that in my cup of tea, okay? I'd like to get away from that. Is that possible? I share your hope. I share your hope. I share your hope.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I would like to have a show where we could just focus on that and that'd be the only storyline. And to an extent... But some of that is on us. For sure. Oh, a lot of it is on us. Yeah, no, but like, some of it is... It's hard to look past the glare of that sometimes. Yeah, the reality also is, but this is the problem. The problem is like, once you know how the sausage is made,
Starting point is 01:05:02 it's hard to unsee it. Yes. And, you know, I get that there's gonna be... the vast majority of fans are just not gonna care about that stuff And I totally get it and I understand and I don't need we don't need to bring it up anymore Especially for today's show which has been a lot of it But it is a real part of the fight game and it's to your point you raise Go back and look at the what was the Ali form a documentary when we were kings Yes, right and you can see how much the government of
Starting point is 01:05:26 the time of Zimbabwe Was playing a role here in Zaire. Sorry Zaire. I apologize. It was because it was in Kinshasa, right so You could see how much of a role that was all being played. It's not new It's absolutely not new with the thrill in but the degree to which the volume has been turned up more recently. That is kind of new Yeah, I mean it's it's a lot of things lately regard. I just want good fights That people want to pay money to see and there are people in our fan base that love us but they're sick of that bullshit too, we can make a choice to Push back a little bit more and pull into what actually matters. Let's do that. Push, pull, push and pull. OK, push and pull.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Those are our three wishes for the rest of the year. Hopefully the combat gods can deliver. If I get any one of those three, I'd be pumped. If I get any one of the three I listed, I'd be pumped. I want all three. Let's transition to our final topic of this Monday episode, and that is a boxing roundup. There's been a interesting mix of headlines of late
Starting point is 01:06:26 that we love to get LT's reaction and I'll chime in as well. First and foremost, Luke heavyweight, former heavyweight champion Tyson Fury has done the Tyson Fury bit of late where one interview he says, I'm retired and never fighting again. The next interview he says,
Starting point is 01:06:39 I'll only come back for Anthony Joshua. And then the next interview he says, I already have a date next April. I have a location, Wembley Stadium. And oh, by the way, I'm fighting Alexander Usyk for the third time. This is something that Turkey Alishik himself has tweeted out. So Luke, it's not a surprise that Fury would break yet another retirement. He's an opportunist. He's always chasing the biggest payday and biggest fight possible. How surprising in your opinion is it that we've ultimately announced his comeback fight a year in
Starting point is 01:07:10 advance and the opponent when that opponent has a undisputed rematch fight coming up on the 19th against Dana Dubois. We don't even know who's going to be the champion after this. This seems kind of weird, doesn't it? I don't get it at all. Are we even sure that it's real? I mean I know he said it's real. Do we know it's real? We have some comments from Turkey that seem to back up that it is real. Now I do know that Turkey and Tyson Fury did meet and here is a Ring magazine tweet that said Tyson Fury is set to come out of retirement and return to boxing in 2026. Turkey Alashik has confirmed and the quote from Turkey is I talked with him and I have his word to have him in Riyadh
Starting point is 01:07:45 Susan in 2026 we have a rabbit to haunt and quote we He's always partnered with Tyson. It seems like right like there's certain fighter like, you know, you got Berlanga telling Shiraz like you're You're to know but it's like I get that you work with the guy, but you're also hunting the guy Canelo telling Crawford your turkeys boy. Um, but that whole You're also hunting the guy. Canelo telling Crawford, you're Turkey's boy. But that whole rabbit to hunt thing seems like it is Usyk. And now Fury put out on his socials that it's going to be Usyk.
Starting point is 01:08:12 You have Usyk's team kind of half cryptically confirming it. I've never seen something like this where you kind of call your shot. Isn't he going to fight Anthony Joshua eventually for big money? It's like, here's the thing about Tessa Fury coming back. I don't really need it. But if he'll fight Anthony Joshua, I'd be cool. I'd be I'd be pumped to see that actually but a third fight with Usyk I'm not sure I get the point. I know it didn't go any better for him. In fact, I'm a little bit worse They were close competitive great fights
Starting point is 01:08:39 Both were won fairly cleanly and clearly by Usyk. Yeah, I mean I want to be clear Usyk won fairly cleanly and clearly by Usyk. Yeah, I mean, I want to be clear. Usyk... Knocked him down. Well, more than that, like, if you just watch the rounds, Usyk clearly figures him out. Yeah. Each fight, why would that change? I don't... I don't quite... I don't... I guess I just don't really get it. I mean, I don't hate the fight or something, but... What would be an ideal build to that, in my opinion?
Starting point is 01:09:02 We're gonna get Usyk DuBois two and for all, you know, if DuBois wins, they'll probably go into a trilogy. And that one, you do Fury versus Joshua at the end of this year. That's the one I care about. And then the winner of that, this is the winner of the other for the title.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And if that's Fury, if he beats Joshua, which a lot of us think he would, then you get one more chance back at the Undisputed Crown in that trilogy with Usyk. I wouldn't hate it if you go that way. But to just call your shot with date, stadium, and opponent when we don't even know the situations, it's interesting. What else is interesting is the build to this trilogy versus Dmitry Bevol and Arthur Betterbiev after two incredibly close and competitive and classic title fights for the Undisputed Light Heavyweight
Starting point is 01:09:42 Championship. We thought we were getting this trilogy at the end of this year. So did at least one of the two fighters. Then there was some tweets that came out that seemed to change that, in which that there was a tweet registering from the Ring magazine account and from Mike Coppenter that ultimately said talks of the trilogy have been put off until next year because both fighters would prefer the trilogy to take place in Russia. We all accepted that as interesting but okay and if you think about it actually actually I don't mind that at all that's what I'm
Starting point is 01:10:11 saying two Russian fighters this is such a big deal for their careers and their legacies in their country I'm all for that but then you get Arthur Betterby of coming out on IG and almost refuting it in which he said I received hundreds of questions about the third fight. That's why I decided to answer here. As you know, the first fight for the absolute champion title took place in October last year after five years of attempts to unify belts. It was still successful. The day after the first fight, we agreed on a rematch which was to take place within four months despite the fact that I was after that it was after the operation and my coach and doctor were categorically against such an early rematch after the second fight
Starting point is 01:10:52 I immediately showed interest in an early third fight and at first there were rumors about the fight in August But my opponent said in an interview that he wanted to hold it until late autumn Then at the end of the year and now it is completely unknown when. And here's the key quote, How old do I have to be so that we can fight for the third time? Luke, this does not sound like a man who is looking to push this off until next year and fight him in Russia. This seems like a man who wants to close the book on this rivalry. Yes, he lost the rematch to Bevol, very close,
Starting point is 01:11:25 just like the first fight. Is this a case of Turkey and Coppager getting exposed for propaganda that might not be truthful in this case? I don't know what to make of this. I guess I don't really understand what's happening here. This is a better question for you to answer. Is that what you think?
Starting point is 01:11:40 It feels like that. It feels like they were almost speaking for BetterBF, and then BetterBF was like, hold on, guys. Let me speak for myself on this IG poster He's eventually he's basically criticizing be wall for avoiding him not wanting to go right back into a third fight with him Isn't there something to that because they were gonna make the benefit as fight Well, that's interesting and then Turkey swooped in exactly so benefit the report was that? Samson look with PBC that they offered a deal for for Bevol to fight better BF with the PBC, you know, promoting and producing it.
Starting point is 01:12:07 And that the offer was eight million dollars of which it felt like he turned down to do the trilogy. Now you have David Benavides coming out and signing with Turkey Alishik to fight Anthony Yard later this year. It's on a super card that Turkey's trying to build up for November. Do we have that tweet with the, uh, these are the fights that Turkey is talking about and guys, this would be a super card. I mean, that would be insane.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Duran Boots, Ennis versus Virgil Ortiz Jr. At 154. David Benavides, Anthony Yard, which is agreed to Devin Haney, Brian Norman Jr. For the welterweight title agreed to. Then the other ones would be Williams, a paid versus Andy
Starting point is 01:12:39 Cruz, Christian Mabili, Lester Martinez, Martin Bacoli, Moses Itama. Five really good fights right there. Four and a half, five really good fights in a really loaded card. I've seen interviews with Benavides kind of saying that like it looks like PBC could be doing more work
Starting point is 01:12:55 with Turkey in the future. I don't know if that's out of a financial need or what have you there, but the critics are basically saying, if you're gonna go this route and you're not gonna do the trilogy for next year, why not just do Benavides Beval this fall instead of the yard fight? Would that make more sense in your eyes? I would rather see that not
Starting point is 01:13:10 because I didn't enjoy the first two Better Beave Beval fights but I've seen two Better Beave Beval fights and I don't want to lose the opportunity for David Benavides to get in there who has sparred both and apparently again these are stories from the gym has had success. That he knocked down Beval on a gym. Yeah I kind of gave him a little bit of the business I don't know how much I believe that but it doesn't matter I would want to see the fight there are boxing fans that believe be volbenevides is the best fight you can make in the sport right now
Starting point is 01:13:34 Yeah, yeah, I mean it's certainly on the list, but I've seen it twice, you know, here's the question does beef does Benevides Going back to Saudi meaning that he went out there for a fight that that he wasn't fighting, but he was like a recruitment trip, and the report that came back was that it didn't go well, he left early. Well, now whether it's a financial need or this is just the direction he wants to go, he's aligning with Turkey for this next fight. Is this a long play from Turkey to get Canelo and Benavides in there? Which if you notice at the press conferences or in the videos, Turkey will say that at the end. All we have to do is convince Canelo to fight Benavides.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Do you think this is the beginning of consolidating those four names? Be Vol, better be Canelo and Benavides in trying to get not just a potential Be Vol, not just a potential Benavides versus the winner of that trilogy fight or before that trilogy even happens, but a long play to get Canelo happy with the Crawford fight, a ton of money, Netflix, and then you slide in Benavides. I'm trying to find optimism here. Well, I have optimism because I think we'll get good fights. You're just not going to get Canelo to be in any of the good fights.
Starting point is 01:14:39 So you don't believe Canelo... There's no world where he fights David Benavides. There is no fucking war. Sorry, he's getting 250 million for the Crawford fight, which if true is mind blowing. Yeah. Floyd got a guaranteed 100 to fight
Starting point is 01:14:54 Manny in the report was that Floyd ultimately made 300 million after all the receipts and all that. This is up there. This is this is right there. Dickey, Leslie, up there. I don't know, man. What if what if Canelo has that opportunity to make like no? No, it's not it's dead. It'll never happen. He's not fighting Benavides. Okay, okay Also related to the somewhat related to this. By the way, do you like the Benavides yard fight?
Starting point is 01:15:19 I don't I don't hate it tonight. I tell you it's an action fight first of all, they're the difference in physics is gonna be to be insane, especially when Benevita's has beaten them up, but Anthony, your doesn't mind some smoke. No. And he takes on the big smoke. He loses to the big names historically, but he'll take some on and he goes. He's not afraid of a challenge. I respect that about him. I mean, look, there are a lot of fun fights in Benevita's around the top end of this division here at light heavyweight. So he made the right move if Canelo wasn't going to fight him to say,
Starting point is 01:15:44 I'm not going to wait around. I'm going to go up and, you know, beats Morrell at 175. Now we're talking about, we thought he might fight Callum Smith instead. It's going to be Anthony Yard. Maybe this builds toward a Beval showdown, which would be one of the best fights in the sport. So I'm trying to embrace that and what the Turkey element can do for this. There's just still some unknowns in.
Starting point is 01:16:01 On the level of what we're talking about with ring magazine account, Turkey, like being a news provider, but it's always under the guise of it's being ordered from their direction. Let me go to the next one. Jake Paul was ranked by the WBA. Of course, at cruise weight, we talked about that last week. We got a ranking. Now this tweet comes out from the ring magazine account that says, due to heavy criticism and outrage from other ranked contenders, the WBA will
Starting point is 01:16:28 review Jake Paul's cruiserweight ranking at their upcoming European convention in Madrid, which takes place July 15th through 18th. The WBA had rated him number 14 after the Chavez fight, but Chavez wasn't ranked at cruiserweight and his last notable win had come all the way back in 2012 at middleweight. True fact, Paul has never defeated the rank boxer unless you call his quote fight with it. So they are. This is a continuation of ring just dropping doogies on Jake publicly. Is this even a real story or is this just this them putting their finger
Starting point is 01:16:58 in the wound and spinning around? Again, we talked about this last week. You can be upset that Paul got ranked, but he's also taking advantage or you know, whatever he's benefiting from a bullshit ass corrupt system that existed long before he ever got there. WBA hearing the whispers and saying, well, hold on, maybe, but I just gotta say the ring magazine at this point, like they're giving up all pretense of, I mean, all media has bias and we know that too.
Starting point is 01:17:20 We have bias. Everyone's got biases. Like that's just reality. But the, but the rule for me is you gotta be upfront with them and tell them, Hey, these are our biases. I'm, I'm a pro this I'm. That's what the Ring Magazine is. I'm not saying they don't do some good work, they do some good work. But they are at heart, that is what, he bought a PR arm to do his information interests.
Starting point is 01:17:55 That's playing a big role there, that's just the reality. So. It's gonna be, I hate it because I feel like we've been in this weird boxing state where yes, Turkey's here and he's growing and he's building big fights, but everyone else has sort of been in a couple of years of like, where are they going next? It started with the end of showtime, in my opinion,
Starting point is 01:18:11 the end of 23 and we're still there in the midst of 25. We still don't know what the rest of this year is going to be for everyone else. Benavia's going from, you know, staying with PBC, but going to Turkey is interesting because he's one of their certain proven, you know, pay-per-view draws. What does this mean for PBC's future? We'll have to wait and see.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Indeed. Interesting stuff right there. All right. Those are our five topics and that would be a good time to talk about the summer and the need to prepare yourself for the heat. Look, we're all grown men watching this, right? I don't think there's any women watching this. Maybe there's a few.
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Starting point is 01:21:52 This one's called DMs from Donk's. Disgusting. Just gross. You know what? Brought back by popular demand. We will love that. They said we wanted it back. We brought it back. So there you go. We do. We give you what you want. Let's hear from our first donk. This one's from at Flannels and Jits. By the way, this guy is a jujitsu practitioner. My fucking eyesight is fading by the day. Me too. Will the UFC event at the White House
Starting point is 01:22:16 actually have good fights or is it just going to be more about Dana White and Trump being close? I'll say this. I think they're gonna try. All the pay-per-views are about Dana White and Trump being close. So that's all, yeah, but if you're gonna do it at the White House, they gotta bring it. To answer in good faith, I do think they're, if it goes forward, I don't see them half-assing it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:35 There's just no way they'll do that. Give us the full ass. Give us the whole ass. No, but I'm being serious. I think if they, again, we want to be caveating this, that this is a year away. Who knows what could happen between now and then. You may not get it at all.
Starting point is 01:22:50 But, and however you feel about it, it's however you feel about it. But to the extent that you get it, we talked about some of the matchmaking difficulties, like how exactly should you do it? But I don't think they're gonna put like a apex-esque level event there. They're gonna go balls out if it goes fall
Starting point is 01:23:05 Yeah, well mark Shapiro said you know people watching at home. They don't know if it's the apex Yes, they're gonna know it's the law of the White House. Yeah, or is this the apex so who can tell here's the thing that you have? see No crappy heavyweights. No Taffa brothers. Let's go. Let's bring. I mean I think you could do a little tour of Taffa We'll take the tour the way junior Taffa. I saw I saw this weekend, and he moved to Taffa. We'll take the tour on the front. By the way, Junior Taffa. I saw him. I saw him. This weekend and he moved to light heavyweight. Yeah, you see the pictures?
Starting point is 01:23:28 Yeah, he looks good. Looks like he's in pretty good shape. He's got a little ab. Got some abs. Got some abs, okay. Yeah, he's got some buster chops too. Thank you flannels and jits for your contribution. Yeah, I think that they'll try.
Starting point is 01:23:38 I think that they will make an effort, for sure. All right, maybe there'll be an American champion on the male side. Maybe it's Sean Brady that'll be the champ. One never knows. Well, they should set up a American champion on the male side. Maybe it's Sean Brady. That'll be the champ One never knows. Well, what they should set up a tattoo booth on the lawn as well. Okay. Well, then I would have to go All right. Let's see the next question from you don't know Tyler right? I don't right and I don't plan on it How does the 2019 slash 2020 version of Dustin Paui way do against this version of Elia? Wish we could have gotten this fight. I think he'd do better than Gagey will fair.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Now, the 19 to 20 version is pre Connor, right? Let's call her to and. Yeah, let's call it the guy. I mean, I think the hooker fight was a little bit after 2020. But let me let me let me. But it's basically like the Dan Hooker version or like the poor. And that's a still the super. So it's after he got tapped by by Habib.
Starting point is 01:24:29 He fought Connor the second or third time in 2021 because remember that cuz my cat died and I had to fly out To Vegas to go cover that yeah, I know moco died alright here. We go so in June of 2020 he won the five-round decision in hook against Dan hooker in his first fight since losing the title one of the best fights in apex history for sure then in January of 21 he had the rematch with Connor and then of course July of that year Connors leg injured so we're talking still about a super elite early to mid-30s how does that that guy that that guy by the way an older version of that guy gave Islam a hard time we gotta remember that too true although he and also did you see Poirier admitted he might have had broken ribs during that fight?
Starting point is 01:25:06 Did you see Poirier also tell young kids that want to be MMA fighters to go to college? I've been saying that! People get mad at me when I say it. I would, I tell you what, I think that that would be a very competitive fight for a little while. We know that Poirier can thump. Would Toporia take him down? I think that's the difference. Because Olavara took him down and held him down. Yeah, yeah. We know that Poirier can thump. What to take him down? I think that's the only very took him down and held him. Yeah, yeah, I think that's the difference. Olivera did not take him down or hold him. Oh, you mean put his hand over his mouth.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Sorry, sorry. You mean Poirier? Yes, yes. I think he would mix it up. I mean, remember, what did he do in the first round against Max shot a double. Yes. Right? So like, there's no reason to believe he wouldn't try something similar against Dustin, just to mix it up.
Starting point is 01:25:49 These would be your two favorite fighters ever coming together, right? Who? Huawei and Toporia? No. Not favorite ever, but like on my All-Star list, for sure. I mean, long out, Luke, if you had to guess Luke's two favorite fighters of all time, who would you pick? That's a good question. I was gonna say Izzy and Ilya
Starting point is 01:26:05 Oh, that's right. No, but even then we're talking all time. It'd be BJ Penn and you were a volt guy too for a while I'm I'm like I like all these guys still I just I See their primes coming before you all do no, it's not about that. We all have favorites I'm just trying to say like who are your favorites my core favorite? our Juana I'm just trying to say like who are your favorites my core favorite Dakota ditch of our Yawana Brian Ortega Rose Rose Nama units those are probably my three really you can't change. What about you?
Starting point is 01:26:33 Wittaker and Volk Wait occurs a great pick really Just because they're Aussies doesn't mean I can't like them. Those are my guys. I mean they're great guys I'll throw a wide man up there throw Al Joe up there throw Mara above all up there hunting to Neil Let's go anyone from Sarah Longo. All right very good there. It is. Let's see our next question from an eager beaver At Eric Bolden do you think the magic of hamsot has been somewhat lost from when he was fighting every other week? now he's talking about 2020 where Hamza like, by the way, like, um, what's that guy's name that we love that had a big run in the pandemic?
Starting point is 01:27:12 Billy Q Billy Q like Billy Q was a major star of the pandemic. You had three victories in what felt like three days for Hamza in two different divisions. Yes. He's had the COVID stuff. He's had the weight mess with Nate. He's had a lot of things. If he goes out there and does to DDP, like kind of like what he did to Robert Whitaker, maybe not,
Starting point is 01:27:31 you know, it goes through him so quick that we're like, holy shit, that'll that'll repair all of that. Yeah. I mean, I was going to say basically that which is do I think that some of the magic has lost been lost? Yes. Yes. I don't think you can
Starting point is 01:27:45 say it's at the same fever pitch. It's clearly not. However, he's back in the States. He's training for this one. Obviously, I think he's with Dillashaw's team now the the training lab but they spell train with rain with a T. The Osborne lab? No, no, no. I cannot believe that little chapter in my life lives on in the show every Monday. It's fucking amazing. What I was going to say was he has the ability to recapture so much of that. Not just with a win over DDP, but to the point you raise, if it's a thunderous win or like a dramatic win, I think people do people so good. Part of the Ilya thing is yes
Starting point is 01:28:25 Some people like him some people don't but you saw what happened But like whoa something special is happening if Homs that comes in there does that to DDP People are gonna have the exact same or more feelings about him in that way people are desperate for a new set of big stars He can fulfill that it's okay. We just had a really good night at 317 We're going to have a great night even though the the card sucks with Holloway and Poirier 3. Main event can't suck. We're going to have a freaking great night with DDP versus... And don't forget, you'll see Abu Dhabi as well.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Whitaker, RDR. And also Pico and Movsar. Let's go. Let's fucking go. Okay, I like this. I know today's show was a little bit weird because, hey, what the fuck else were we supposed to talk about? But, looking forward? I got the blinders on we got a bunch of good fights this year. He blinders Yeah, what else you got here? I've never seen a single episode. I just wear those hats like Chuck
Starting point is 01:29:12 This is from our true art sure to key told me I was true. This weekend. What does that mean in? Handsome churro is handsome. Well, I don't know how that's how it is in Spain, but that's how it is in Colombia Yeah Churro is handsome? Well, I don't know how that's how it is in Spain, but that's how it is in Colombia. Yeah Oh, way to go tubes art Churro wants to know what are your thoughts on the UFC having only one? American UFC champ is there a shortage of talent in the US or a growth of talent around the world? I think it's both cool clearly best practices like okay, I Remember the days where if you wanted to be a world champion, you had to go to AKA. You had to go to the days you had to go to Iowa and get your ass kicked by, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:53 militant fighting systems. You had to go to these places. And then it became kind of novel where you would see guys break out in the UFC who come from these small teams like OSP coming from a small team in Tennessee, but he never became a champion. And now you're seeing that completely fall away. Like yes, can you still get elite training at AKA or ATT? Yes, of course you can. But can you become a champion coming from a small team that no one's ever heard of? Yes. Like Jack De La Maddalena, what team does he train with, BC? Scrappy MMA.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Okay. I mean, you know the point I'm trying to fucking make. I mean... I know MMA. All right. You got my point. It's not a huge team. It's not a crappy MMA. Okay, I mean you know the point I'm trying to fucking make. I mean. I know MMA. Alright. You got my point. It's not a huge team. It's not a huge team.
Starting point is 01:30:29 So it just tells you that the best practices and what guys can do with that, they can build a champ almost anywhere. That is real. Australia, I remember when Elvis Sinisek and Anthony Parash were the best Australia has to offer. Now look at the best Australia. Don't forget about George Sotterteropolis. There was a window I know but he's he made his like he trained mostly here. I mean that was a little bit different
Starting point is 01:30:50 I'm not a real Aussie. No he is but he didn't get good in Australia He got good he like it ties into what we talk about of the high level. I ran into him in my cellars By the way, I trained in Marcelo Garcia's one time and he was there Yeah, the high ranking American wrestlers less likely lately to go directly to MMA. Like we think. I wonder. Remember the you know, 15 years ago, the talk of boxing is where the great American heavyweight, so they're all playing in the NFL. Are we getting to that point, too, where people are looking at the pay structures
Starting point is 01:31:18 and the violence involved in saying, is this the path I want to go to? I want to go the team sport. I think NIL has made a bigger difference than we realize I was not something I had considered until relatively recently But I do think it plays a role the growth of sport jujitsu I mean people are definitely making some cost-benefit analysis of what can I actually get out of this and what am I gonna have? To risk to get there and they just weren't making those same calculations ten ish years ago, but but I will say I Think with a better recruiting effort, some of these problems can be solved.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Okay. It's not like we like need one. Here's a question for the UFC to survive, but to thrive long-term. Do they need a bunch of American champions? I mean, it certainly helps in America from a marketing standpoint. Do they need? No, as long as they're English speaking from the standpoint of building stars and even that doesn't always have to be speaking English. But yeah, I mean, look at
Starting point is 01:32:12 Anderson Silva didn't really speak English during his prime. But it also took forever for him to break through. True, true. Um, they're just wired differently in these other countries. Habib talks about the sacrifice for those that come from Dagestan and what they're willing to. I mean, they're fighting more for their in a lot of ways, their their future, their comfortable future. Yeah. Any kind of future in some cases.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Yeah. So we're seeing that. But what, you know, is there going to be a new American hotbed that breaks out? Is there going to be things going waves? You can't, you can't rule it out. I just think that there's a lot of things that are taking good athletes that may have given MMA a bit of a second look And it's given them options to not necessarily do that and so we have to figure out what can we do to counteract that?
Starting point is 01:32:51 I wonder even though I'm I'm done with the politics in combat sports Is the close-up that UFC gets through the connection to Trump which could lead to a fight on the lawn for the 250th anniversary Is that a good recruitment tool for young Americans that looking to go? I want to go this route through the connection to Trump, which could lead to a fight on the lawn for the 250th anniversary, is that a good recruitment tool for young Americans that look into go, I want to go this route? Could be. I hope. Could be. I hope. Yep. I cannot. I hope. I hope. I hope that there's some kind of way for that to happen. Who would be against it? Right? If you're, if you're 10 years old and you watch a damn, you're 15 years old and you you watch this a fight on the White House lawn and that
Starting point is 01:33:26 Pageantry with that I wonder if they didn't they though is that gonna override concerns if To the extent that pay is a motivating reason to not do it really Yeah, I don't know if the Jews worth the squeeze does that override it. I don't know I don't know. I don't know how to answer these questions, but I guess we'll have to say I mean that the people ask great questions You have any more of these great questions? This is from MTBubble. What eating contest would you do best at? Ass.
Starting point is 01:33:51 We're just coming off of Joey Chestnut's return after taking a year off to the Coney Island Nathans. And did you see he won again? I did see he won, yeah. The answer is ass eating. Ass eating? Where's my hip hop horn? See fuck you. You don't give, oh.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Thank you, thank you for saying what you need to be said. When you ask for the hip hop horn you can't get it. I have to because of discrimination in the workplace. Yeah, la leyenda, it's like giving yourself a nickname. I have to, I have to because he is slow to the, hey when the rules are stacked against you, you gotta complain to the ref. He knows comedy, that's the thing, he knows comedy.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Let's talk about that. What eating, like I always say, you gotta complain to the ref. He knows comedy, that's the thing, he knows comedy. Um, let's talk about that. What eating, like I always say, I'll go slice for slice with anybody in pizza. Pizza I feel like I could probably do okay on. I could crush pizza. I could, I'll eat pizza. I don't think I could eat that many hot dogs. I don't think I could do that. Glizzies, if I come out of retirement, I will out-glizzy.
Starting point is 01:34:41 How many glizzies do you think? I can't compete with like the... Could you eat 10 glizzies? The competitive eaters, I can't compete with them, but in a regular person challenge, I will crush people.izzy. How many glizzies do you think? I can't compete with like the... Could you eat 10 glizzies? The competitive eaters, I can't compete with them, but in a regular person challenge, I will crush people. You can eat 10 glizzies?
Starting point is 01:34:49 Dude, I own the American League record before a 2001 Yankees Royals game where we're walking into the stadium and I said, hold on, there's a hot dog guy right here. And I ordered eight consecutive in a row and took them down to which the
Starting point is 01:35:01 girlfriends of the guys I were with were shrieking, wouldn't talk to me during the game and still brought up years later what ever happened to that weird dude who ate all those hot dogs that time. Just sucking on them hot dogs huh? Sucking on chitted dogs right? Oh um pizza could you eat a lot I don't think I could eat a lot of spaghetti or something like that no?
Starting point is 01:35:22 What about wings? I did a wing eating contest once. Are they spicy or not? So me and my buddy entered, he did volume, I did spice. So like he just had to eat the wings. How far did you get? He finished in second place, shout out to him. I got sixth out of 10, it was fucking hot dude.
Starting point is 01:35:38 And I like spicy shit. I feel like I could eat, you know what I don't know about, okay eating contests are not just about volume, they can be about speed. So for example, who can eat a blueberry pie the fastest? Yes. I think I could win that one. So they had there used to be this great rib place in Southington, Connecticut, and right off the
Starting point is 01:35:55 it was called I doubt that Brannigan's and on the roof they wrote best wings in the state like and like you could see it and toward the tail end when they were like about to go out of business, they would have all you can eat rib nights where you pay like 25 bucks, you know. And one time I was served a full rack of ribs and I ate it in less than four minutes. And I grabbed the waitress like, hey, I'm ready for my next one. She was like, all right, it's going to take about 25 minutes to cook that 25 minutes at all caught up with me.
Starting point is 01:36:23 So by the time I got there, I could only one more one more bite dude I felt like if that second rack was there I could have done two racks in ten minutes I went with a buddy of racks dude yeah you like big-ass yeah I want my baby back baby back um I went with a buddy of mine I didn't do it this I was like a teenager I think I was like 13 or so and we was at a Texas steakhouse not like the branded one but like we were in Texas I don't remember which one oh it was one of those ones think I was like 13 or so, and we was at a Texas steakhouse, not like the branded one, but like in Texas, I don't remember which one. Oh, it was one of those ones where it's like eat this giant steak plus the fixins. Beaksons. Watch a little he's bound down.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Were you in Austin? It was Austin. Yes, it was all the comedians are this is this was pre pre Rogan. He ate all the steak. But it was a Pyrrhic victory in a sense. Well, it wasn't even a victory because he didn't win, but he managed to eat the hard part and he could not eat the baked potato. So he lost. He lost on the whole thing. He couldn't do it because the rule was you had to have that plus I think two fixings and one was, I think he had mac and cheese and maybe the other one was the potato with a loaded potato. so it's got the sour cream the cheese the chives the whole bit you
Starting point is 01:37:28 couldn't do it dude I don't think I could eat steak is the hardest thing to eat fast remember when John Candy ate the old 96 are on the great movie the great outdoors with and I haven't seen that so long like to eat something like that like some 72 ounce ribeye you know in a certain time period that these are that's a very American discussion do Do other countries have eating contests? Well, whoever can eat in those countries ends up having the power. You know, I one time saw Kobayashi take down like,
Starting point is 01:37:52 I'm not doing a bit, like six or seven bowls of ramen. Yeah, until he went head to head with that bear in that Fox eating competition, and the bear like, you don't remember this? Kobayashi? Yes. Takeru Kobayashi. In early 2000s, Fox had a crazy man versus beast challenge. Oh, the gymnast had to go against the orangutan or something?
Starting point is 01:38:11 Yeah. And Kobayashi went against a bear and he was talking like, all like, I'm gonna beat him, I've been training, I've been training. The bear just stand there and looked at him as Kobayashi, he's like funneling him down. The bear just puts one hand, grabs the whole pile and go, ah, ah, ah, ah.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Yeah. And Kobayashi afterwards was like, yeah I'll come out. I'll come harder next year. I'm gonna train for this. I'm gonna I could beat him I could beat him, bro. You're not gonna beat Winnie the Pooh at a honey eating contest. You understand that? All right, I think the blueberry pie I could win the blueberry pie. Those are our fan submissions for the week You can reach us unless we're having an ass eating contest in which case I just win that Third base on that. Hey, morningcombat.gmail.com, this Friday we'll be back with more Dead Wrongs and your
Starting point is 01:38:50 fan submissions. And plenty of fight previews, because there's also Derek Lewis Fight Week, if I'm not mistaken. It is, it is, and we'll get into all that in a minute. And BC's email is bootyeater69 at gmail.com. Send him one. It was. My original email was bcsoup69 at hotmail.com. Put that on your fucking resume, you loser. I don't have to answer to you. My original email was bcsoup69 at hotmail.com.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Put that on your fucking resume, you loser. I don't have to answer to you. We have one more segment where I scour the internet on Sunday afternoon to find, you know, the weirdest things possible to see if I can move Luke Thomas emotionally. These are called Have You Seen B.C.'s Feces? I have this in my hands. Hooah! Hooah! Yeah, double, double.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Luke, finally, you always say that if you're a good enough fighter, you'll have too much tape out there and eventually the competition will catch up. That's real. Like what happened to Izzy. That's real. Well, Charles-Aire Jourdan has watched enough Iliot tape that he has put out how to beat Toporia. This is interesting. Guys after years of studying Toporia I finally know how to beat him. So you start the fight, Toporia fights slow, you need to lower your stance and then you... That's about right. That's about right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Yeah. Do you remember that? Hey whatever works right? Remember that dumb and dumber scene where they're like, you want to hear the most annoying sound in the world? There was a boxing match two weekends ago in England where James Jazza Dickens competed, and check out this introduction. The challenger, James Nixon! That's Larry Hart, is it not? Is that the Pride chick? James Nixon! That's Larry Hart, is it not?
Starting point is 01:40:27 Is that the Pride chick? That's the Pride chick, right? Long live, Luke, that's her. I haven't seen a picture of her in a long time, so I don't know if she's still alive. I mean, that looks like an aged version of her, but yeah, that looks like her. Yikes, that is... I never understood why the Japanese picked her, but it just kind of worked. It did work in that setting with that Pride theme song.
Starting point is 01:40:44 I mean, with everything that was about pride. This felt out of place and weird, didn't it? It didn't quite work as well. All right. Hey, let's get flatulent here. Buddy, I've been doing that all show. Check out this crochet. Pablo Torre is about to find out.
Starting point is 01:40:56 They... Fart as loud as your anus will allow. Believe me, these are words I live by. You understand that? It's a nice art and craft piece. Also, you heard of drive-by shootings. This is a walk-by. As your anus will allow believe me these are words. I live by art and craft piece also You heard of drive-by shootings. This is a walk-by bond
Starting point is 01:41:16 Which is Portuguese, I don't know All right When when will let me ask a question before we Please, please do it. When will farting stop being funny to us? Never. If it does that, then we cancel the show instantly. Like, are we gonna be in our deathbeds
Starting point is 01:41:34 and someone's gonna fart in the room and we're gonna laugh? Yeah. I'll never not laugh at somebody getting hit in the nuts with something, you know? It's pretty good. Do you remember when the Celtics had the Boston Garden with that parquet floor and there were like dead spots on the floor
Starting point is 01:41:46 Like the leprechaun would come out and trick the players and like the ball bounced away check out this floor Nice rebound there was there on the beach or something what? Tripped up that's a travel sir that is wow where the fuck are they playing that it's just disintegrating No, but that was awesome right there all right Hey, did you see this highato Moikano crash out, as the kids say after his loss to Dariush? Fuck you, Dariush. I gave a steak.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Fuck you. Well, what'd the TV do? That was a big ass TV. You could have just given it to me. Wow, right there. Okay, let's hear from Matt. Sarah. You know, I don't know what it's set for Madison Square Garden, but Michael Biscuit, my Michael Bisping believes that if I did this already,
Starting point is 01:42:38 what's not it? You call the Michael Biscuit. Michael Biscuit? Is that called Biscuit? Is that called Biscuit? Michael Biscuit? Michael Biscuit? I'm friends with Michael. Holy fuck, I didn't even realize that. You know what that makes me think of when you talk about how the sweets are so much better in England.
Starting point is 01:42:57 I don't know why it's this sort of that. I'm thinking of Biscuit. Good old Michael Biscuit. I didn't know Ben the Bane Davis was filling in. I was going to say, dude, Ben the Bane Davis shows up everywhere. Tell you what, hustles. He hustles. Gonna be on MTV's The Challenge.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Well, I mean, I think I'll barely be on, but I talked a little bit about that, but my man hustles. He hustles. All right, smoke him if you got him time. Luke, would you smoke out of this? Buddy, you just asked me what contest I was going to win. Let me ask you a question about your smoking Yeah, what I what I I have that's a dark asshole, right? Yeah, could use a little could use a little bleach but
Starting point is 01:43:33 This is how they get high in France. Watch this. I think we call this Le Bonguet. Okay, I have to do this. Yeah, I Think she's smoking Eiffel flower I think she's smoking Eiffel flower And Luke you know if you could die anywhere you would pick the smoking tent wouldn't you please kill me there some love yeah there you go smoke, how could you go two minutes? Yeah, could you do a full take? I could I want to just say, you know planet 13 in Vegas Yes, they have like a car you can sit in and it's like push this button for smoke. It's hotboxes. Yeah, but it's it's fucking like fog. It's not weed. It's just fog.
Starting point is 01:44:50 So you're just choking on. Oh, you're just getting you're just smoking asbestos. Yeah. So I wonder about shit like this. Is it even weed or is it just. But you've seen the ones where they can just light it and then they just funnel it in. Then there's really no other. Yeah, I'm all for that. Yeah, that's like you always say if we need to bury, I'm telling you, bury me in smoke. Yes, that's the way. Wow. Let's see some child abuse.
Starting point is 01:45:10 We always like that on the soccer. You got you got scenes from my childhood. Yeah, here we go. Watch this young fella. That's great. You know, my idea about UFC women's heavyweight? Starting to catch on. Starting to catch on. Let's listen. I'm trying to see Lizzo, female Derrick Lewis. Alright, uh... What part?
Starting point is 01:45:57 I'm not sure exactly... Just keep moving. Okay, yeah. Uh, Luke, you know, uh, the more English Canelo is using, I kind of like how he speaks. He's hilarious. Motherfucker. Let's hear from Canelo. Do you generally like or dislike your phones? Uh, generally I don't give a f***. Only on Dizone. Was that, was that Jim Gray?
Starting point is 01:46:16 It sounded like Jim Gray. Yeah. That's amazing. Imagine if they dig him up for this, uh, Netflix card. That'd be interesting. Wow. I mean, using some special verbs there, huh? Dig? Oh, he's a legend. He is a legend. Yeah. Imagine to get using some special verbs there, huh? dig Yeah, I'm actually get that fucking corpse out there
Starting point is 01:46:29 Oh, we had some child abuse who might as well come back with some elderly abuse watch this poor gentleman in front of the Manure truck. Oh my god. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Is that manure just like I've been told from the from the Instagram post It's manure and he pulled out in front of it in his rascal scooter and why are they burying the street and shit I don't know what country that is but whether that's Chinese or cement that's rough dude that is rough right there that's what I did to the bathroom and then the guy brought his drink inside and I was like I don't think this is the place for your drink bud Luke remember that great AI fansub of you and the cake lady getting married this should be your cake I love your tits.
Starting point is 01:47:06 It really works under any celebration, just get that for a lady. Yeah, Fourth of July. Luke, I've been told that tomorrow is our sixth anniversary of morning combat. Can you believe it? This is how we should have celebrated. Want to see the greatest skateboard trick celebration ever? This is how we should have celebrated. Wanna see the greatest skateboard trick celebration ever? Let's see it. This is how we need to celebrate our birthday.
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Starting point is 01:48:12 Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Dude that is epic. That's... That's... I didn't know that the Dude, that is epic. I didn't know that the Jan six guys had a circus show.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Well, this is probably how we more than likely would celebrate it. Let's go to the volleyball pitch. Soccer volleyball. That's how to key wakes me up I didn't introduce the young and into that conversation. Okay, that's not what she does You know the screaming part that was the part that she does Hey, why don't you fuck up your microphone at the end of the show there we go I'm back on I'm back on all right. We got a couple more here for you time for some huge dogs to call it off It's a what are they transporting at this truck Luke all right? I? Mean what is that look at the unit on that guy? Bro, they got a date. They got to get this is the kind of truck that was hauling tanks. You can see you can read that sign
Starting point is 01:49:22 They gotta get, this is the kind of truck that was hauling tanks in. Did you guys see, read that sign. What does it say? Pull forward after fueling or get shot. What the fuck, this is not real. This is not real. You're saying that's an AI dong. Am I getting MMA centeled again?
Starting point is 01:49:36 I don't know, Risky Factories. Where do they have signs that say you're gonna get shot? Interesting, wow. All right, one more for you. Check out this Japanese fella that's all the shit I got this week. I hope you liked it. That's how you should show up to all job interviews.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Yes. They're like, oh, sorry, I'm in a lot of pain. Here's my cock. Uh, that's all the show we can fit in two hours today. I hope you enjoyed it. We will be back this Friday, 11 AM Eastern for a wonderful remote show previewing the weekend to come. And we do have a fun couple of weeks.
Starting point is 01:50:22 It's not just Taylor Serrano three Friday night, the double header ring magazine series number three from the tennis stadium Saturday with the likes of Shakur Stevenson, Edgar Berlonga, Hamza Shiraz. Derrick Lewis. William Zepeda, we got Derrick Lewis and Taliesin Tal Laverse this Saturday. What's your guys name?
Starting point is 01:50:39 Tashira. Tashira. Talisman Tashira. Talisman Tashira. And then the following week is the craziest day in combat sports in a while come that 19th Luke that is pretty The UFC card this weekend. Let me quickly go through it if I may Yeah, please Derek Lewis versus Taliesin to share is your main event. I don't hate that fight I don't know how long it's gonna go, but I definitely don't hate it either Stephen Thompson taking on Gabrielle Bonfine
Starting point is 01:51:01 It's alright. It's alright Calvin Kader Steve Garcia taking on Gabriel Bonfine. It's alright, it's alright. Calvin Cater, Steve Garcia. Mixed feelings. Tell me why you're pumped about that. Steve Garcia's on like a five fight KO streak. Calvin Cater's lost four in a row. Fair enough. Okay, coming or going. Nate Landweer versus Morgan Charriere, should be fun. That's the French guy with the color hair. Vitor Petrino taking on Austin Lane. It's a heavyweight fight. That one won't go very long, but it might be fun for as's the French guy with got the code here Vitor Petrino taking on Austin Lane It's a heavyweight fight that one don't want to go very long but it might be fun for as long as it lasts and then a Light heavyweight tour of Tafa jr. Taking on to go tacos. Oh, we get a horn for that
Starting point is 01:51:36 also Chris Curtis on the prelims is back against Max Griffin at 170 at 170 and remember Chris Curtis went one and three at 170 in PFL so Jake Matthews by the way the prelims might be even better Jake Matthews taking on Chidi and Chikwani that's pretty good Lauren Murphy versus Eduardo Moura that's pretty good. Lauren Murphy still at heavyweight. Kennedy and Zichquiu taking on Walter Walker or Walter Walker. Mitch Ramirez at lightweight taking on Mike Davis. Mike Davis, a very good fighter. And then the opener, Fatima Klein, taking on Melissa Martinez.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Is that card better than the 318 undercard? What do you think, Long Island? No, no. Pretty good. I also gave the horns to Fatima there, Long Island zone. And this is not an Apex card, this is in Nashville, Tennessee,
Starting point is 01:52:18 at the Bridgestone Arena. All right, we got a crowd, we got a crowd this Saturday. Yeah, not too bad. And then, like I said, loaded next Saturday, the July 19th from Pacquiao to Usyk Dubois to BAM to Poirier Holloway three. So we'll be ahead of all that. Don't forget that nine days from now, UFC 318 pregame preview
Starting point is 01:52:38 brought to you by Cuervo in this studio Wednesday, 11 a.m. Eastern Jed Meshew joining us. Then, Luke, you got a little vacay. So we'll be getting some filling. A little vacay. Yep. A little. Not long. Normally, everyone's like, oh, you're going to be gone for two weeks. No, just one. You're only missing two episodes. That's it. So we'll get some some of our friends to drop in and join us for that.
Starting point is 01:52:56 As we got a bit, obviously, that big weekend to recap come Monday morning. July 21st, we'll be there with you. That's about all the show we can do. Morning combat at gmail.com to reach the show. Those are our social handles. Please like and subscribe the video. It does go a very long way for our future. And our future is going to be in the living room of one of you folks.
Starting point is 01:53:14 I think. No, thanks. I don't really, you know, I access freedom in other ways. Look. I don't need that form energy from Dana White. I don't need that. Long Island, Luke is a great member of our show. He handles our merch. You can check it out at morning combat dot shop. Our new July releases are there.
Starting point is 01:53:33 The three margarita shirt, the technical thriller. How about that Lucha poster? You can get one signed as well. It's the best way to support our show. I had some margaritas this weekend. Oh, wow. Had some strawberry margaritas. Wow. I had some margaritas this weekend. Oh wow. I had some strawberry margaritas. Wow.
Starting point is 01:53:47 I had a lot of mules this weekend. Oh, I went, I took the wife to a last minute getaway in Providence, Rhode Island over the weekend. Yeah, it was cool. I just assumed Providence was a shithole. It's weird, when you live in Connecticut, Rhode Island's like this armpit brother and you don't realize, dude, Providence rules.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Bro, I've heard decent things. It's really classy culture, history, food. It's got a lot going for it. I didn't realize that. You say that about a lot of places you go to. You're like, I thought this place sucked. And then you go and you're like, it's not so bad. Maybe I spent too much time in Hartford in my life, which is one of the worst major cities, if you even want to call it that. But thank you, Providence. Thank you, India. Thank you. All right. Thank you to the viewers and the if you even want to call it that but thank you Providence. Thank you India Thank you. All right Thank you to the to the viewers and listeners today because we know it was an unusual show
Starting point is 01:54:30 Let's turn the page focus on the fights for our Friday We had we use what we had which wasn't much but that's the last time we have to talk about some of those people for a long time for a long time for MK is gonna be about fun and eating ass and breasts. Hey, it's always been about that. And hot dogs. Thank you very much. For our great staff, including Ken, who I loved. Dude, if we. Who is not sober.
Starting point is 01:54:54 We can get an M.K. camera to just follow Ken around all day. I think it would be just money content. Do you think he does drugs in the bathroom? I check yes for yes. I love to find out. Thank you to our great team, Nadir as well, and Daniel Snyder's nephew as well for always holding us down there. That's LT on BC.
Starting point is 01:55:10 We got enough for today. Catch us on Friday. We're out of here. This is an iHeart Podcast.

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