MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Tyson vs. Jones Jr. | Jake Paul KOs Nate Robinson | UFC Fight Night: Anthony Smith Wins | Ep. 88

Episode Date: November 30, 2020

On Episode 88 of MK, Luke and Brian recap a crazy weekend of combat sports, including the Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr boxing event that ended in a draw (6:06). They also break down the other fights on the card including Nate Robinson getting KO'd by Jake Paul (25:55). Plus, they recap the UFC Fight Night event which saw Anthony Smith beat Devin Clark in the main event after Blaydes vs. Lewis was called off due to a positive COVID test (37:48). The guys discuss how Covid-19 continues to impact that sports world (48:02). The guys close out the show with Dm's from Donks (57:05), HYSTS (1:09:14), and Odds & Ends (1:27:30). --------------------------------- 'Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit: store.sho.com   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat  To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

30th of November 2020 and my screen is black. There we go. Ah, we finally got it working there. Hi everyone. This is Morning Combat. My name is Luke Thomas. I hope you're doing well. I'm from CBS Sports.

The gentleman on the other side of the screen, well, he's from CBS Sports too. He is a man about town, wearing some merch, enjoying some Thanksgiving dinner and a whole lot more. My friend and yours, it is Brian Campbell. BC, how are you, good sir? I'm doing great. I've been eating ham leftovers for every single meal. My wife substituted the ham for the turkey in this COVID Thanksgiving, and I'm still giving thanks, Luke. Although, I've been blowing up the bathroom a few times, but that's really a personal issue, Luke.

How are you, my friend? I'm doing quite well. You know what? I'll say this, BC. My daughter woke up today at 8.30 in the morning. That's the latest I think she's ever gotten up in the history of her 19-month life. And I got to tell you, I feel like a million dollars because I didn't have to get up at 5 this morning. I got to sleep in a three-and-a-half extra hours.

You know how much that changes my mood, BC? Because I didn't have to get up at 5 this morning. I got to sleep in a three and a half extra hours. You know how much that changes my mood, BC? I feel like, who is the woman who sang at the top of the hill on The Sound of Music? That's what I feel like right now. Yes, I'm broad. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I feel like her as well. All right? Yes.

By the way. I feel great. Did you enjoy? Did you do any? We'll get to the merch here in just a second. Did you do any Black Friday or Cyber Monday shopping? Anything cool you picked up? No, I was too busy with the ladder out, putting up the Christmas lights,

getting the tree up, trimming the tree. You know what I'm talking about. Luke, it was a very festive family weekend there. Let me show the folks here. You've got a Morning Combat shirt on. We've got shirts, hats. We've got tumblers. We've got mugs. And I think I've got shirts, hats. We've got tumblers. We've got mugs.

And I think I've got the, I forget what the code is. I just retweeted it. You can go to store.show.com. But if you follow us, either of us on social media, you can see, or at Morning Combat on Twitter, we've got the code up for, I think, 30% off today, BC. So if you're going to get mk merch today is the day and if you look at the tweet bc it's everyone from australia england uh canada and they're all bitter they can't get anything yeah i was gonna say like as much as i don't understand myself how showtime can't figure out this

international shipping issue although thank you for the uh for the checks i'm i love cashing them the quality of these clothes look like no like, no joke, it's really nice. This is really nice shit, alright? So, you want to get it? Now's your time to get it at a discount. Maybe we can work out a deal where our international fans can buddy up with a American fan and, you know,

for a little bit of a quid pro exchange, you know, reach around something, Luke, they can mail it. I don't know, Luke. I don't know. What am I talking about? 30% off. Use the code CYBER.

C-Y-B-E-R. Right now. Store.show.com. All right. Also, of course, please give the video a thumbs up. Hit subscribe. Speaking of subscribe, BC, we hit 70K before December 1st. Big round of applause to everybody here in the audience who helped us get to that milestone.

We still have many milestones to go, but I was really glad we hit this one. Yeah, a lot of rumors out there in the comment section that your boy BC was purposely trying to keep us at 69, dudes. But no, I want to get higher, 70, 75, like Creed. Can you take me higher? Yes, I will take you higher, please. Once we get to 100, Luke's top comes off maybe a little tea on tea with another man i don't know a lot of wild stuff can happen luke the more that this show expands blows up takes over people's lives you don't need those other people okay i like uh big john mccarthy

and biz ping's got a pod i think dc does some canadian pod i you know they're probably good shows but this is the only show you actually need, Luke. You jerk. And multiple times a week. Multiple times a week. What other show is hitting you this hard, okay? You know what I'm saying? If you want to try Showtime, you certainly can.

30-day free trial. By the way, BC just interviewed the director of the Camacho documentary, which BC of Memory Serves comes out Friday. Is that right? Friday at 9 eastern and pacific guys this is a much watch a must watch i don't know if you grew up in the uh 80s and 90s like i did where when camacho hit the screen i you know i don't care if he was washed you had to

see what was going to happen next because he's such a great character how about a doc that nostalgically gives you what you want and kind of explores the unsolved nature of his death. It's a very, very strong film. Can't wait for you guys to check it out. And what am I forgetting? Anything else? I think I got most of that stuff covered, right? Check out our documentary.

The guys at Less Than Jake on Malka really worked hard on that shit. That was some good piece of work there. All right, well, we've got a lot to get to for today. Your questions, have you seen this shit? But first, as we always do, BC, time to get to our big five topics. We start first with really the biggest event of the weekend, and it surprised me in its scale and its scope. I did not think it would get as big as it did, but it did, and it deserves to be noted. So over the weekend, Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr.

come out of retirement in their 50s, and they have an eight-round exhibition. Okay, BC, let's start here. I know you gave an instant reaction, but now you've had a little bit more time to think about it see what everyone else had to say what grade let's start here we'll expand what grade overall would you give the pay-per-view what grade would you give the fight or the exhibition anyway itself look i'll give the pay-per-view a b plus and that is like that's saying something because there were so many factors which should have made this an absolute shit show luke horribly promoted live music performances which historically when that pertains to a fight is is an awful idea it was wacky announce crew and it all freaking worked. An undercard filled with guys you'd never heard of,

only they were matched well and they came out to bang. You have to, I think there's two levels of expectations here. Okay, so B plus on the pay-per-view, Luke. And the fight itself, I will give a solid ass B. And I think here's where the reaction to the fight in the pay-per-view may differ. It's all like in everything else in life luke it's based on expectations if you're a casual fan and you just wanted to see mike tyson put on the gloves and bang one more time and paid your 50 bucks i i get it i could see and i see it

because people hit me up on twitter why they were disappointed but if you are you and i luke where we're journalists and fans, and we've been following this story of this fight since it was announced, what, like six months ago, we got to a point, due to all the shenanigans with the California State Athletic Commission, due to how much we know

that it's such a fine line to walk when putting on an old guy fight. So many things can go wrong. It could just be a shitty fight. There are so many ways that this could have sucked that I have to say my expectations, Luke, were so damn low that to see a pay-per-view come out and kind of be a B-plus to me,

and this fight itself be a B, all things considered, this is a monster success. I get it if you wanted to see Mike go out there and either knock Roy out or get knocked out in the first round or two. You didn't get that if that did nothing for you, if the personal stories did nothing for you, if seeing Mike at 54 in such great shape and actually outboxing Roy Jones Jr.,

if that did nothing for you, I get it. But, Luke, from where I was coming from, this was a monster success across the board. In that instant analysis, I was sort of ranking the MVPs. You know, it's like Tyson won the night, but so did Snoop Dogg. So did Jake Paul. So did Triller. I don't even know what Triller is, Luke. And I kind of want to see another Triller pay-per-view.

This should not have worked, but it did. I'm here for it, brother. Thank you. I don't know how long triller is going to be in the game because i went to their instagram channel or site and page whatever account and they appear to be like trying to launch their own i can't quite tell actually but i think what they're trying to do is launch their own social media uh channel not a channel but social media um a new medium

essentially. There's Snapchat, there's Instagram and then there's Triller. So I don't know exactly if they're spending money the right way to get where they want to go, but here's what I'll say. I watched your reaction and I certainly paid attention much more quietly than normal in trying to watch this because I was expecting, I don't know if I was expecting disaster

but I was definitely expecting sadness. I think that's what I was sort of looking for. Didn't see a whole lot of it. And you have to call it like you see it, which is to say when the event was over, did I feel like I had a really fun night of entertainment? No, but that doesn't mean that a lot of other people didn't. And in fact, when I looked sort of on social media old man old man look at your life i'm a lot like you were but i completely disagree how were you not entertained luke please well see this is where not interrupting me and letting me actually explain gets to the part of that here's what i

would say bc just because i didn't like it doesn't mean there was nothing to like not everybody is going to like every single thing. To me, it was sort of the way I would explain it, a style of music, like country music or something, that it just doesn't appeal to me. It doesn't mean that I can say that there's no audience for it. It doesn't mean that I can't say that I appreciate the musicianship or the angelic voices singing it. It just, did I feel a whole lot when it was over? Not necessarily, but the thing that I would say, BC, is there were some things I liked about the pay-per-view, and there were some things I don't like. But what is pretty clear is, one, there is absolutely,

in MMA and boxing, a market for old man fighting. I think at this point, the evidence is truly overwhelming, and you have to agree, too. I think most people who bought that pay-per-view feel like they got their money's worth. And that is the key. Did you at the end of the day say, you know what, I am really glad I watched that. I feel like when I paid my $50 that I got something out of it. How many times have you watched elite MMA fighting or elite boxing

and you felt cheated out of your money? You didn't feel that way at this one. And then I'd also say... How many times, Luke? That's the default feeling in boxing. All right? That's the baseline. Fair enough.

Fair enough. Fair enough. And you didn't get anywhere close to that. And the last thing I'd say is there was no disaster, and it was not especially sad. So, BC, I hope you can appreciate my position, which is I can't come on today's show and tell you that I was just like, you know, Red Fox, here I come, Martha, it nearly gave me a heart attack. It was so overwhelming. I'd be lying to you if I did that, but I'd also be lying if I said, I feel like the majority of people feel more like you than feel like me. And I recognize there's a real market and Saturday night was a win for the players involved.

I think you finally said a great truth. I think more people out there in general feel like me than they do you. But Luke, that's what makes you special and ornery. Yeah, but they can feel more like you, but I'm usually right. All right. Here are the sort of big picture reasons why I just love this night. Yeah, my expectations were lowered. And I do want to get into specifically like what you didn't love about it. But quickly, the Tyson redemption angle angle I was touched by that like he was legitimately happy Luke to like

have come through there and look good and didn't bite anybody's ear off you know which I got of course a million texts ahead of the fight you think he's gonna bite somebody no this was like a man who was really trying to kind of repair his legacy in a way, or at least, you know, like, or come to terms with his place in boxing at the moment. I love that. I love the surprise at the great shape he was in. Yes, we didn't get a banger because Roy was put into survival mode. Like instantly.

I also love some of that flashy stuff that could have sunk the night. And I want to find out if this is why you didn't Luke Snoop Dogg was fricking hilarious. I'm not saying I want to find out if this is why you didn't. Luke, Snoop Dogg was freaking hilarious. I'm not saying I want to see him as a permanent analyst. And it's obviously UFC has tried this before to differing degrees of success by bringing him on. In this moment, he was great. He was clowning fighters, which I'm not saying that's what you want out of your announcers. But in this already carnival shit show, Snoop was great. I loved Adesanya. I mean, look, that announce team had some highs and lows,

but overall, I was entertained. I thought Morrow coming in last minute for Al Bernstein, unfortunately because of the COVID. Shout out to Al Bernstein. We love him. Hopefully a quick recovery. But Morrow was like a cohesive glue to get the most out of Adesanya and get the most out of Sugar Ray Leonard.

Luke, we love ourselves from Ray Leonard as a person. Dude, Sugar Ray Leonard is not good as a commentator. I'll just say he sucks as a commentator. He never has been good. Going back to the 80s when he was still fighting. And somehow that worked. And look, I don't even really like rapper hip hop. I certainly don't like live rapper hip hop.

Those performances were kind of fun. They're smoking joints and blunts and and somebody gonna bring out a hookah soon luke it was wild it was it was a fun freaking circus night of a house of horrors that didn't leave us horrible and sad what did you not like about it sit on the the damn uh a witness chair here let's do this thing again it wasn't like i i can't go in there and say i hate it either i mean listen to the words that i said i just didn't feel much right so i didn't go in there and have this like revulsion about what i was looking i was like oh this is

the worst thing i've ever seen in the world no i didn't feel that way by the way the badu jack fight i mean what the fuck was that i mean you know you're talking about it was well matched no that was not well-matched. That was an absolute massacre that should not have been made. But okay, different story. I think they thought it would be an early knockout. Hey, Badu's not that old. He's back.

And instead, the guy got fucking walloped for the entirety of the contest. But okay. This guy was willing to die in there. Blake McKernan. Here's what I'm trying to tell you. Everybody comes to combat sports a little bit differently, and everyone is looking for something a little bit differently out of it. There are casual fans, there are varying degrees of hardcores. There are some people who, for example, inside of MMA, they really respond to that sort of Japanese

circusy, Yaranoka, New Year's Eve kind of theatrical thing. That really never appealed to me much either. Now, I'm not going to sit here and tell you I've never engaged and indulged in my own shares over the years of various forms of circusy MMA, because of course I have. We are all guilty of it in varying degrees. But all I can tell you right now, BC, the place I'm at today when I speak to you, I think whether I'm right or I'm wrong, the listeners and the viewers, they do not want me to come on here and lie to them about how I feel. I'm just telling you the thing I'm looking for today, by and large, and of course there will be exceptions to this too,

is I'm looking to be amazed by the elite end of things. You're asking me what gets me up and thinking about things. It is the guys who are moving the needle. It's the guys who are redefining possibility. It's the ones who make the future. They shape the game in many ways. That's really where I'm at today. And I understand if a lot of people are there or they aren't, or there are a lot of different places in between. Remember,

BC, I'm not begrudging you your good time. I'm simply saying I just didn't feel a whole lot. But there was one thing I thought was a huge home run. For me, Snoop worked more here than in Contender Series. Dude, because Contender Series is guys vying for opportunities. It's kind of serious. You know, there's all sob stories. And then Snoop's like, oh, bitch, you got knocked the fuck out. Like, it just doesn't work very well. But this was inherently a little bit more fun.

It was inherently a little less serious. And I think people really appreciated that. Yeah, I just don't want you to be the guy in the 90s that goes on the America online Rocco Sofretti message board and is like well he's big but I kind of need more dialogue in his films don't be that guy okay listen you've never heard me say wow you know what's wrong with this porno these guys just don't talk enough I've never been that guy okay and the thing I would say that no one seems to be bringing up BC BC, I did not like the crowd noise.

Listen, if you're in an empty stadium like you're watching baseball or soccer, I could sort of understand how you want to pipe in the crowd noise, but you were in a production set. Like, we know there's no crowd there. Why are you pumping it in? However, the thing to me that I took away most was, as you know, BC, the XFL in its initial run in the aughts was a dramatic failure. But some of the things they did, the NFL adopted, including all the additional camera angles and the way that they filmed it. To me, those big, bold production lettering and the interesting

lighting, it was at once futuristic and then also like a 1980s throwback arcade video game feel. Whoever was in charge of that, I thought, killed it. I loved every part of that. These boxing broadcasts, no matter who's putting them on, I think should look at that and say, how could we modernize what we're doing? Sometimes it takes an outside player to get there. I thought they hit a home run with that. No, I agree with that.

And it also takes a wild quarantine to force that. But speaking of things that are artificially pumped in, I was going to try to bring him in because he looks so itchy. He's already on the screen, Luke. Can Jay show his weird glasses to the world? Would you give him that chance? Here they are. Yeah.

The camera angles of this broadcast were atrocious. Yes. Jay, don't tech talk me. Don't. Come on. No, no, no. I agree with Luke. The set design was spectacular. It looked so good. You're in a big, empty state. I, no, no. I agree with Luke. The set design was spectacular.

It looked so good. You're in a big, empty state. I mean, they're in the Staples Center. How do you not make it look like a big, cavernous, empty, what is happening there, hole? But the camera angles, they overthought how boxing works. They had no camera operators on the apron, which is like a staple of boxing. And so your close-up shot was actually a high tight from the back. And then they kept using these angles.

They put the cam ops on the floor looking up through the ring, which for MMA is actually not bad as a cutaway. For boxing, you just can't see anything. You couldn't see the fights. And maybe that's what they were trying to do since these fights were actually all terrible. But very enjoyable. I guarantee you somebody was like, hey, we don't want to have people on the ring apron because it will get in the way. And then the technical solution was this. And then you realize, yes, it does suck that those people on the ring apron are in the way.

But it actually is critically important for the broadcast at home. Luke, luckily we had an award-winning documentary director ready to go to break this down. But while we have Jay here real quick, Luke, do you want to, I mean, he got murked in that documentary. Do you have anything nice to say to him? Let's stay on track. We'll come back to him getting murked in the documentary a little bit later, BC. So BC,

to wrap things up on the overall fight broadcast, you gave it, I think, a B plus and a solid B. I would go a tick down, you know, a B and then B minus. I'm not too far. I'm not really too far from you. I just feel like you have to give place in the fight game for the variety of tastes. And some people are going to like certain things and some are not.

But you can't get on here and say on Monday morning, and I am clearly not saying it, that it was some disaster, that it was some failure. No, it definitely wasn't there was a lot to take away from it on the very positive end of things i just want to make sure the last thing on this bc i'm okay with really sort of leaning into old man fights i really am but but we got to be careful because if you just say okay what are all the interesting permutations you can think of i know that the commission kind of acted as a buzzkill here, and maybe you could argue they went a little bit too far. There's certainly a debate to be had about that. But when you got guys in your 50s, it wasn't a failure. But the degree of error that you

can make is very small before shit goes south very quickly. You have to be a little bit careful about this market. You just can't go full head, you know, diving into it. Let's embrace it, but let's be careful about it. Well, I think you got to realize a couple of things. It's going to be a, this will spawn spinoffs because they had success. They also had, by the way, Mike Tyson, who hadn't fought in 15 years and we never thought he would fight again. So you got to understand that.

But two, there is a middle ground to what you're teasing that i think we realize that two minute rounds is perfect for old guys i think you know bigger gloves is perfect i think eight rounds might even be too much you know i mean you might want to schedule these as like a four rounder and give them more incentive to kind of go out there and throw but with that said california state athletic commission has to realize that within those four rounds, there may be cuts, there may be knockdowns and knockouts. It's fighting, okay? Let's make sure these guys are checked up physically, that they're okay to be in there.

They agree to be in there. Let's get it so we're, look, if somebody gets knocked down and they're not looking good, let's end it. Yeah, but it wasn't fighting, not legally. It wasn't fighting. It was sparring, which is different. I don't want these to be real fights, and I don't want Vinny Paz judging at all. I mean, he gave Roy every single round.

Like, come on. That's the thing, Luke. He was in a terrible car accident. I tweeted out how absurd this draw was, just from the standpoint that, like, obviously Mike won it, and I know the win doesn't matter anyway, but, like, it's so lame that we actually took the time to put judges in there, and Chad Dawson scored an even.

Like, come on. Like, that's like, dude, that's like seven rounds to one Tyson under any circumstance. Yeah. I hit up the commission yesterday because, and let me preface up front and say they said no comment, so take what you want from that. But I was like, why would the celebrity judges all of a sudden just go with a draw in the end?

Why would they do that? And the answer, I think, again, commission didn't say one way or the other. But my belief is that if you look at just the way they were messaging about this, I don't think they liked the promoter trying to, like, muddy the waters about what the stakes actually were and what the boxers were or weren't going to do. And I think he kind of leaned on it and be like, don't fuck around. You know, there is no. Anybody who wasn't following this, like, from a PR sense, Luke, they were sending out emails, like, the days of just changing everything. Like, we respect the California Commission, but there's going to be a real fight, just so you know.

And then there's like, here, DraftKings, the official sponsor of this. There's not even betting odds anywhere. Like, it was just like, it was a mess, Luke. It was weird. It was weird. And that nebulous status is going to make it hard to promote because remember bellator did old guy fights but hey those were actual licensed fights there was a winner there was a loser there was submissions there were knockouts it was all of that you didn't get any of that by virtue of the age the one thing

i will say about the music numbers and then we'll move on to some different topics here i didn't love them bc but here's the thing. It's sort of the same kind of situation with Snoop. If you're going to have, this wasn't Fight Circus, which they filmed in Thailand. It wasn't nearly that, but it was kind of like the distant cousin of that. If you're going to go in that direction, I do not think it is the end of the world to put in music numbers, but I always go back to Affliction, and it was like, oh, we got these fights, and then out of nowhere, we have a fucking Megadeth concert, and I got roasted. At the time, I was the editor in chief of Bloody Elbow. I got roasted for saying, what the fuck was that all about? Turns out it was

so expensive among all many other bad financial choices that they made that it helped sink the whole shit, but I don't mind people who are not doing on-brand stuff doing off-brand stuff. But I caution everyone being like, this is what Showtime and this is what ESPN and this is what Fox need to start thinking about. Fuck that. Want no part of it there unless it is much more carefully and nimbly done. This will be part of our transition to the next topic, but I think it's worth being said.

Same debate we had after the Logan Paul KSI thing. There is a market for celebrity fights, for old guy fights, for YouTube fights, whatever, but I would prefer they are kept separate from real boxing. It's okay if you put some young real fighters on the undercard, but I don't need a double header of like, you know, Ryan Garcia in a real fight and KSI,

you know, no, keep it separate. and KSI, you know, no. Keep it separate. And again, on the old guy fight thing, you have to understand there's a small strike zone. So as we see them, eventually there's going to be a shitty one where guys aren't in shape and it's just gross. And then eventually somebody's going to get knocked cold and we're going to question whether we should do this. Luke, there'll be a short window where this will be viable.

Let's hope in that short window we can make some fun ones. Look, Oscar De La Hoya wants to come back. Stop calling out Triple G. You should be fighting other old guys. You should get Trinidad on the horn and try to do that one. We would care about that, or at least I would. And then, yeah, I think that's correct. By the way, so as we move on to the next topic,

I think that Roy is definitely going to fight Anderson Silva. I don't know when or how or whatever, but do I think that is next? I absolutely think that is next. You think Holyfield is next? Here's why I say that for Tyson. He looks like shit, Holyfield does. He does not look great. Tyson looked pretty good, and then Roy, for all intents and purposes, looked okay.

Yeah. yeah i i think that's the probably the outside of using somebody different than boxing for a for a you know a circus factor the the next real fight for tyson that would probably sell the most is the trilogy with holyfield yes i agree with that all right so topic number two we go to the co-main event here uh resident 1980s movie slash dennis theace slash Rachel Dolezal asshole. Jake Paul knocks out viciously Nate Robinson in whatever fucking round it was. It doesn't really matter because the fight should have been stopped about two more times before this. He got viciously KO'd.

Okay, BC, afterwards, NBA Twitter, I mean, they roasted this guy like an absolute stuck pig. Their roasting culture online is maybe worse than anyone else in any other sport. But let me ask you this. I saw people coming out. Floyd this morning, I think on our last night on Instagram, being like, you know, black athletes shouldn't criticize other black athletes this way. I saw Megan Anderson, who's the UFC featherweight contender, saying, you know, if you've never gotten in there, you can't mock somebody. BC, I got to say, I find all that to be bullshit. contender saying you know if you've never gotten in there you can't mock somebody bc i gotta say

i find all that to be bullshit like there's a you can decide what level of mockery you can bring yourself to but is nate robinson worthy of mockery yeah yeah i mean look like do i respect the fighters so much not to do it yeah i respect the dangers of fighting so much not to do it but with that said it's high risk high reward that's why you get paid so much not to do it yeah i respect the dangers of fighting so much not to do it but with that said it's high risk high reward that's why you get paid so much to be a fighter luke because you're going out there and you're risking not just your health you're risking public embarrassment it is what it is it's why the jordan crying meme got invented especially in this day and age so i do i'm here to say like thank you nate robinson thank you for having the

balls to take on this fight and you know having never boxed before to confidently go in there and train and then to go in there and try to win it and go for it and oh by the way the worst case scenario of when you try that happened to you you got sent to hell but But guess what, Luke? I think that clowning and memeing has become so mainstream that you have to separate it. It's not about making fun of him for doing it. It's about that he took the big risk. And oh, by the way, if he would have knocked out Jake Paul, he would have got the big reward.

He took the big risk and lost. I don't look at it as we're making fun of him and shaming him. We're kind of making fun of the moment. He put himself in a moment where it could go badly. It went very badly. He's got to, you know, he's got to suffer the shame. You know, I mean, Luke, it's kind of like when you're, when you had a few drinks and you walk out and you're on the sidewalk with your friends, a lot of these videos that end

up on, have you seen this shit? And you're like, see those two poles? I bet I can run across one and jump over the other. And your friends are like, hold on, I'll bet you $10 you can't. But let me get my phone ready. You're risking the chance that you're going to get crotched on that thing and end up on Have You Seen This Shit? And if you do, you deserve to be.

So I don't feel bad clowning the moment here with also putting out there, thank you nate robinson for going for it because if he would have went out there and was like tentative we would have had a crappy fight he went he went all in luke and he got sent to hell and that happens in life okay yeah also this might be a moment to reflect on like what behavior you decide to engage in in a public way like by the time the bell rang it looked to me like he legitimately, I mean, not knowing how to box is one thing. Like, do anything. I mean, he was running into punches, running into clinches.

I mean, that's how he got knocked out, right? He was running to try and re-clinch with the guy after already being separated from another clinch. He had just had, I mean, he looked like a deer in the headlights from the word go. And I'm sure he looked to be physically in good shape, and we know he's an athlete. So I understand there was probably a degree of training involved but jesus christ man you want to assume risk for these kinds of things this is why a lot of people don't assume that kind of risk because unless you're truly ready for it super bad shit is going to happen to you that's

just the knockout itself but you know that will end a guy the flying the nick will end up flying the guy who crosses all the volcanoes on the high wire like eventually that guy's gonna set up the high wire with no net across the grand canyon which i think you may have already done that one and he's gonna trip and he's gonna get crotched on the wire and he's gonna roll off and try to hang on and then fall to his death and you know what luke people are gonna clown the shit out of him and even though it'll be savage because he probably will die at the end of it. Dude, you signed up for this. Do you know what I mean?

Like you make TV specials around this. No one was at gunpoint. It was like walk across the wire. Well, Linda, this dude goes out there on TV. Make sure that the Discovery Channel is there so they can witness every part of it. And the whole time he's like, thank you, Jesus. Oh, Jesus, thank you. Dude, if you take the L there, we're going to use that.

That's just life. But to me, it's like when you want to police fandom a little bit. I mean, I understand if you really feel like people are in the wrong expressing some kind of concern about it. But you're trying to rake the ocean here. The guy signed up for something. By the way, was compensated for it financially. I'm not sure how much at this point. But certainly did not do this for free. He did this of his own volition. He was totally unprepared for it in terms of what was necessary to do well and paid

the cost. This is what sports fans do. I understand that the shame and the embarrassment of it in many ways is probably overwhelming and to a degree moderating what people say is is you know in good taste fuck the taste dude i mean this is what this is what people are going to do expecting fans and media and anybody else to not notice how awkward and bad and awful and then to a degree kind of hilarious it all is provided he's okay he seems to be okay trying to regulate that that's just trying to censor opinions you don't like. You can't do that. Yeah, real quick.

There was a debate in what they made in that co-main event because the original report was that both Paul and Nate Robinson made $600,000 each. And then another report from the California Commission said they only made $60,000 each, which didn't make a lot of sense. But to the Megan Anderson point, something I'll talk about very briefly later is that Daniel Dubois, a heavyweight boxing match against Joe Joyce Dubois, his eye was swollen,

shot. He got hit with a jab on it. Eventually he took a knee and quit. And there was a small market of people going, oh, he wasn't ready for this moment. He quit. Look, that's where the Megan Anderson comment comes in,

where you're like, don't criticize a fighter for who broke his eye for saying I'm going to fight another day. That is the line where somebody like me shouldn't come on here and be like, oh, Dubois is a wimp. No, Dubois was in a real fight and his eye closed and broke and he had nerve damage and he decided enough was enough. Respect. I got nothing bad to say about it. Don't cross that over to where somebody signed up to fight a youtuber and that youtuber knock them cold okay that's a totally different story right yeah you're on a circusy kind of event in the co-main event you fought a human just bag of

fucking belt buckles and cheeseburgers this guy is and he knocked you out like dude that you're and you're fine like if you had been severely injured okay well that would have been totally different too because now well I guess with the Nick Wallenda thing there probably would still be some measure of that but it'd be a little bit less tasteful I'm just pointing out you sign up for something like that you you walked out of the ring in your own volition you know you were wearing Nick's colors like oh dude you were just begging for the L but it brings us a little bit to Jake Paul. I got to tell you, these Paul brothers, they have, I said this on my personal YouTube channel last night, they have such a good gimmick, BC, because they're total pricks, right? They make you feel like they're the

dumbest people on earth. And they're definitely very, very stupid. But they are smart enough to realize if I make you feel like I'm stupid and I get you to sign up for something that you feel like is way easier than it is, and I'm actually a little bit more experienced than you might realize, I can just keep taking candy from a baby over and over and over again. If there is any lesson from the Logan Paul KSI fight and then this one, they're going to be doing this basically as long as they want to. This is what I don't understand, BC, about CM Punk. Dude, you did not need to be fighting guys who were in the UFC. What a total mistake that was.

You should have been fighting Uber drivers, fucking whoever, somebody who sucked balls, because you probably could have gotten a nice one if they had set it up just right, and you'd look like a million dollars, and you probably would have gotten not the same UFC money, but pretty fucking good money. Well, first of all, Luke, thank you for saving your best, first, and hottest takes for Morning Combat rather than putting them on your personal channel there first, Luke. Will you fucking stop today with this fucking me against you shit?

Come on, please. I don't have the energy for it today. I saved my best takes for Morning Combat. You literally did an instant reaction, please. I don't have the energy for it today. I saved my best takes for morning combat. You literally did an instant reaction, BC. It doesn't make any difference. It will not hurt viewership today. I promise. Please continue.

Look, I bleed MK. Luke, you can't take that away from me, all right? You can't make me change my personal ways. What's your opinion? I was going to say that I said it as well in my morning combat branded instant analysis that you're going to hate them, and you should hate them but they're not sloppy celebrity fighters they're they're young and big and athletic and they're taking it seriously so when he calls out this is jake paul when he calls out connor mcgregor and and uh dylan danis now look i do

think obviously there's a weight gap because jake paul fought at 190 connor fights at you know 155 or 170 but uh you know i think there's a market to make those fights if we can make a catch weight bout if one of those guys were interested and i think eventually you'll get what you want which is a paul getting sent to hell by a guy who can actually fight who actually comes from fighting but you're right luke under the grounds of this i'm gonna keep fighting rappers and youtubers and actors and xs i mean you're these guys aren't bad and you and you can't take that away from them they they they work the jab they respect the sport they're not you know this ain't barstool appalachia brawling you know this is legit luke okay all right so hopefully you can bounce back from that comment i just made and then one day forgive me that time

that public transportation got me late for our drinking episode because you're still holding that one too Luke you're still sitting on that I forgive you but you need to understand anything that goes on my personal channel does not in any way hurt this brand in fact it only buoys it but okay that's what people think rationally say

any final thoughts on the the Jones and Tyson pay-per-view? Anything we didn't get to that deserves to be mentioned about whether it was good, whether it was bad, or whether there's a future? Let me ask you this. We talk a lot about UFC commentary

because some guys are really good at it, but they're really good at it in the traditional sense. Yes, you got a guy like DC and sometimes Bisping who can do the funny scream thug rose, but we really like the Paul Felders, the Dominic Cruzes, who can really break down what you're watching. I think there's room for Adesanya on these broadcasts if he wants to. Remember when Roy Jones started his broadcasting career with HBO?

He was right in the midst of his prime. He got better after retirement. But look, I think if we learned anything from Saturday, it wasn't perfect for Adesanya, but it was pretty damn good enough, a mix of entertainment and actual analysis where I think UFC should watch that and go, hey, maybe we could be doing more with this guy. Yeah, the only issue for him that he's up against

is if you think about what's the common denominator for all of the, whether this is play-by-play or whether this is color, they either all live in the United States or the UK. That's it. Is there any in Canada I'm not thinking of? If you just think about it, even Bisping lives in Orange County. You have the two, John Gooden and Dan Hardy, who live in the UK, but that's it.

They're all kind of available to be where they need to be. When you live in New Zealand, the majority of the time, it's just hard to be accessible, but you're right. I thought he did really well. I don't know if that was his first time doing it, but it was his first time on a major showcase. I've been saying it. I think he's one of our smartest fighters,

and his ability to articulate that was pretty good. But the geographic limitations, I think, for the time being anyway, are going to make him as a staple or whatever, like a Felder version, a little bit difficult for him. That's sort of my two cents on that. That's fair. Now, speaking of UFC, BC, let's go to that.

We'd love to get your opinion on this because I would not call you an Anthony Smith hater. That is not fair. I would label you, and I wonder what you make of it, as an Anthony Smith skeptic a little bit. So he fights Devin Clark. We were supposed to have this Lewis and Blades main event. And then I texted you, what was it, Friday or Saturday I texted you? The fight was off because I think Blades got the Rona.

So Smith got elevated to the main event. They made it five rounds. He made short work of Devin Clark. That's all I'll say. Throw it to you, BC. Your reaction to Anthony Smith's quick submission win. Well, quickly on the Derek Lewis, check out my interview with him on MK.

It's still very worth your time and funny. Look, he called it in that interview. He said he was supposed to be in the Adesanya fight for Tyson Jones, that spot as announcer. And he said, you know, maybe I won't tell them that I can't do it because the guy with blades will get Rona, and he did. All right, you said I'm an Anthony

Smith skeptic. I think I'm an Anthony Smith truther, or at least thought I was up to this point, Luke. Look, he had a the kind of comeback opponent you would need after going up to the highest level a few times and not being successful, and he looked

freaking fantastic. I have to give him that. Yes, in this game where we are sometimes very harsh on these guys. And you're only as good as your last fight. And everything is in the moment. Because, you know, we're not fighting every week. So it's sort of based on that. He dispelled a lot of the fears or the misgivings we had about him.

He didn't take any damage. He was great in taking down his opponent early and then reworking things on the ground and then getting that sub seemingly out of nowhere. This was a strong performance. This does not necessarily, though, fix all of those things about what he's going to be like against the elite because this was supposed to be a mid-card fight

that got bumped up because of Smith's name. But yes, I'm here to tell you, Luke, this is in the right direction keep going in this direction I think Smith to a degree does need to get out of his head a little bit and I think this may have been the direction in that not listen to people like me not listen to the haters and also Luke not go back to back to back bangers sometimes if you take a hard L and you get some damage in there you do have to take time and recover um and i think this was obviously exactly what he needed and this division is not overwhelmingly deep he's still right there luke jury's still out if he can do any better than he's done in the past but yes come on let's give him the credit he deserves this was perfect perfect yeah i mean i do think i do think i didn't even realize did you know that devin clark had that terrible loss of his stepmother like a week prior to the fight i did not know that i don't know how

i missed it but i didn't know it so you know how ready this guy was for that experience we've talked about it before sometimes it makes them ultra dangerous and sometimes it makes them you know not dangerous at all and where he fit on that spectrum is really really hard to know he came out looking for blood he landed a nice hard shot on Anthony Smith. Smith got the takedown, had his back briefly, and then he eventually got rolled into guard. And then, to me, easily set up the triangle. I mean, it's funny.

Anthony Smith's more memorable wins, I mean, I guess it depends on your perspective. He's got the two wins from his hands over Shogun and Rashad. But to me, the more credible wins, like against Gustafson or against Uzdemir and now Clark, they came from his jujitsu. Now he's had problems on the ground with Smith. He couldn't, or excuse me, with Jones.

Couldn't get a whole lot going. Rackage, too big, too strong. It didn't really work. And then Teixeira is obviously, you know, just a tremendous, tremendous fighter on the ground. Plus has amazing ground and pound. But I do think that Smith you know to me I said it on Friday if you want to say that he over performs or performs sometime and we kind

of you know the winds will hold up over time I also kind of feel like he underperforms which is to say whatever ability he's at is certainly up for some debate no one really knows because he is coming off of those losses this was a win but it wasn't a win against a super elite guy, but he did it in a way that a super elite guy would. He made it look that kind of easy. And so to me, I feel like when he is performing at his best and when he is really locked in and he has the right game plan, going to the ground just because you're really good there doesn't mean you always should, but it made sense here against Devin Clark because there was a huge skill gap. He, to me, is very much clearly part still of that elite group. Now, where in that group you want to put him, I don't know. I think it's a fair point you make, BC. Can he do better than he's already done? I don't know. I think these are just unknowable questions

and they're certainly the right ones to raise, but I hope that people saw this and saw what I saw, which is that there are certainly levels to this game and there's levels to this division. And wherever you want to place Anthony Smith, fine. But it needs to be in the highest bracket. Wherever you want to put him in that bracket, okay. But this is a guy who has the ability with a lot of different ways to win. He is hugely experienced. And when he's got the right game plan and the right mental frame of mind he is capable of beating some of your favorite fighters

and maybe even more than that and i think that's what we saw on saturday and maybe luke he can take this performance in the ease of it now look you know sometimes it's the opponent that makes the ease of it but the ease of what he did on the ground and look at what somebody like glover has done to sort of re-energize and rebrand himself. Glover went as far as he can go. Jeff being a tough guy with good takedown defense and a knockout punch, but really doubled down and worked hard on his ground game to build longevity. Maybe Luke, that is something for Smith, because I think you'll agree with me. He could, he takes too much damage against the elites.

And the problem is he can take a lot of damage. So why that becomes a problem is you can sometimes lean on that to hang around fights and try to buy your time, buy yourself time to win it. When a lot of times you could end up just taking extra beatings, right? Like 40 ounce Budweiser, according to you is just extra Budweiser.

He's taken 40 ounces with no freedom of, of assault in there. A bunch of times. luke if he can adjust enough try to rely more on his ground game not get rung up as much and get into you know even trading maybe there's a a brighter path in the window but again right first step to get back there thank you last thing i say is that isn't that what glover to share i did glover to share was like i'm still going to strike with you but i'm also just say that didn't i just say that exact same thing sorry i didn't hear that part sorry i didn't hear that part but i think

you're right the only difference between the two if you did say that was glover and anthony is that glover is a very good wrestler uh and always kind of has been sort of a decent forward moving offensive takedown machine that's never necessarily been Anthony's strong suit so I don't think that's out of the question he could thread that needle but he's got some work to do to get there all right so point number four BC because it wasn't the greatest UFC card we'd ever seen anybody else from UFC Vegas 15 here for point number four anybody else make an impression good bad indifferent what do you say uh you know i like the fat white guys brawling there at heavyweight there parker porter getting that unanimous

decision win over josh parisian uh it wasn't pretty it didn't tell you a lot about the future i enjoyed it for entertainment look this wasn't a deep card obviously it lost a lot by losing the main event no one else jumped out at me except for the man who you're about to fill a rightfully so a little bit luke yes so the person i would highlight is going to be uh miguel baeza miguel baeza now 10 and 0 trains out of mma masters i interviewed him towards the end of my run on sirius xm. Nice guy, smart guy. He's Puerto Rican. I think he speaks fluent Spanish and English. As you can tell, great athlete. I think he even wrestled, I could be wrong about this, but I believe he wrestled collegiately. But as you can tell, very well-rounded, still very

young, and still putting the pieces of his game together. But he can win on his feet. He's a good athlete. He's photogenic. He's smart. He makes good decisions. And he is, I won't say all action all the time, but his fights don't ever appear to be quite boring. He is somebody to keep your eye on. You look at those sort of the next generation of fighters and, you know, who might be that guy on the rise. Now Baez at 28, a little bit older than, you know, you would prefer him to be 23, 24. Cause, uh, you know, he would just have much more time to fully round out his game, but he appears to be on his way now. Is he championship level material? I don't know. And it sucks that he was on a card that got drowned out. I feel like it happens to him all the time. And he's in these like really great fights. If you've not seen him,

you know, look him up on fight pass. You will be rewarded, but he just appears to have BC. He checks a lot of boxes, you know, black belt in jujitsu can do everything he needs to still, still run in the corners in terms of development of his game, but exciting, smart, fun. Keep your eye on Miguel Baeza. I was very under woke to him until you told me to look out for him.

And I watched one back and we watched this Luke. I see a little custodian at Harvard, goodwill hunting in him from the standpoint that he is doing a lot of high IQ thinking to set up his work he's um aggressively patient which means he's constantly pushing the fight forward but it's a constant sort of what is he gonna do he waits for the right moment he reacts he's he's big he's quick he's precise uh I like him long-term because of that, Luke. Very technical along with the athleticism.

Looks like he could be a player because the guy he beat up on and got the submission, Takashi Sato, I mean, he was game. He brought it, Luke. And I really like the poise I saw from your guy, Miguel. Would you like to see him maybe against like a Jeff Neal sort of who could be the next guy in the top 10 type of crossroads? Yeah, that'd be interesting. Yeah, that'd be a great one. I'm not sure if he's quite ready for that

but maybe a oh, who's that maniac? Nico Price. I think that'd be a fun one. Nico Price. By the way, no comment. Are you going to get to it later about Spike Carlisle and Rachel Ostevich? We got Rachel Ostevich a little bit later. My guy Spike Carlis, and his conspiracies.

It didn't come through this time, Luke. All right? He's a TV fighter, though. Okay? He is a TV fighter in every sense of the word. All right, so let's end on this for our big top five here at BC. This is a weird one, dude. This is a super weird one.

So the NFL, the season, I'm not going to say it's in peril but they're having some trouble reaching the finish line we're having fight after fight after fight in UFC and this was true before but now it's like really getting bad being affected by COVID now the NFL has said what they might do is they might set up for the playoffs some like bubble territories because as you saw the NBA really thrived in that bubble format in Florida, and that was when the pandemic wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. Granted, treatment is better now, but the sort of widespread community transmission is really a problem.

BC, there were reports over the weekend that Shemayev, Kamzat Shemayev might have gotten it. His team says no, but the reporting is from a pretty legitimate place. But still, you could imagine, like, what if Conor gets it before a pay-per-view or whatever? Should the UFC and or other sports organizations be doing more inside of a bubble format or maybe some other idea to keep sports safe? Because things are getting a little bit out of hand. Yeah, they are getting out of hand.

And I think we've heard some people talk about this, and I might be right. I believe you saw Javier Mendez put that tweet out of him in Abu Dhabi getting the injection of the potential, what do you call that? Vaccine. The vaccine. Look, I don't think it would be a bad idea

for UFC, which already operates on Yaz Island in an enclosed bubble there you know with where there's levels to the bubbles but they got their own hotel they got their own training you know abilities there they got their own arena to maybe look ahead to the next few big cards and I mean it's hard to just up and transport people and their coaches lives Luke and just drop them in a foreign place and be like why don't you just stay in that bubble for two months to make sure we can pull this off.

But they might want to think about getting people there at least very early because we've seen it work in the bubble. We're seeing any sort of sports that are traveling. Like you're saying on a regular basis, people are getting knocked down left and right. I mean, I think the Denver Broncos are about to call Tim Tebow up to try to quarterback the next game.

What four quarterbacks went down. I mean, it's getting out of hand. It's getting to the point, Luke, where, you know, it's already a, for every sport, it's already one of the craziest sort of footnote asterisk seasons you're ever going to see because of the quarantine. Now, when you're literally affecting the competition, because some teams may be at, you know, three quarters or half strength, fight sports, it's obviously a little different,

but yes, it could greatly affect business and really the play out, how these divisions play out in terms of the fights that are on the docket. UFC has been ahead of everybody. They've been smart. There's been a lot of great things going. You may want to go extra smart here, Luke.

I don't know where we're at with the damn vaccines. And if really we could just drop UFC in a bubble there on Yaz Island, and everybody can get pricked with it, and then everybody can be fine, but I don't want to see these fights fall apart, so they may want to figure out some plan, Luke. Even if it's just making sure

the fighters, who are not always the best advocates for this type of stuff, are really keeping things as close and tight. I mean, look, call Peapod. Get Stop and Shop to send you your groceries. We don't need any fighters going anywhere, Luke, where we can pass this around. Stay out of Florida.

They don't wear masks in Florida, Luke. They just spread things left and right there, all right? I don't mean to get Dr. Fauci on you, but it's a time right now, Luke, where shit's double, triple, and quadruple and down. We got to be extra careful. I don't want to go into what we were in March, April, May, right? You don't want to go into another complete lockdown where you and I are twiddling our thumbs going, you want to rewatch a fight and get drunk?

Because I think that's the only thing we're going to talk about for a while. It could be that way. Here is my best recommendation, such as they exist. I honestly don't know what you can do with, like, the NFL's got options because those are employees. Those players are employees. Here we have independent contractors. There's only so much you can get them to do. However, they are also business partners to some degree.

So I think if it's a pay-per-view, you've got to have them quarantine a month out or something like that, three weeks out at a bare minimum, right, and put them on a month out or something like that three weeks out at a bare minimum right and put them on on on a place like fight island where everyone there is for the most part pretty well screened and then you can sort of live and let live what you do for like you know these these run-of-the-mill fight night cards i honestly don't know dude i've been i've been hearing stories about guys who in camp have been getting covid, not telling the public about it, which they don't necessarily need to, but they're in the middle of camp. They finished, you know, whatever sickness they get and then go back to training because they need paychecks. Like that's

the thing that I've been told that has happened. So like how many guys are getting that and just not telling the public now that doesn't mean they're necessarily spreading it. That's not the claim that I'm making. What I'm saying is, you know, what kind of health risks they're having to put themselves through as we've seen with Cody Garbrandt or some others, Diego Costa, for example, in La Liga, you know, to get to the finish line for a badly needed paycheck. I understand that, right? You got bills to pay. You need to fight totally. I, you know, you gotta, you gotta make some assessments about risk, but it's just, it's just kind of crazy. So while I don't know what the solution is for every

ufc show i do feel like your crown jewels one time a month there probably is more that can be done to secure those for the health of the athletes by the way but also the health of the sport and i think for the consumer demand as well you gotta give dana a lot of credit here and company here on this luke before we even knew about covid they were trying to do a Luke Thomas. They were trying to build self-sufficiency, right? And they did that with Fight Pass where, you know, if their TV deals fall apart, they can put a pay-per-view on tomorrow on Fight Pass still.

You shout them out for that. Now we're talking about a UFC hotel in Vegas. I mean, maybe they end up having two, having the international hub in Abu Dhabi on Yaz Island, and then doing something with the larger circle around the Apex facility in Vegas and just turning that into an Olympic village and having a hotel and you got the PC there and you got whatever, Luke. I mean, it's really to the point where you may have to do this.

Also, Luke. It's a serious question you have to ask yourself, which is you can build a hotel and other things and have what's called vertical integration where you essentially control sort of every part of the industry from the distribution to the talent signing to whatever to the housing and blah blah blah um you know there's a question about how good that is for the industry overall okay fair enough but in times like these where if you had someone who had not pure vertical integration but you know had the ability to control and sustain the product. How much better is it for MMA to have that, you know, versus a more open ended scenario where the fighters have more leverage and have more pay.

But you wouldn't have any of these other potential safeguards. It's a legitimate debate to be had. Yeah. He looked some breaking news into the morning combat newsroom. Colby Covington has tweeted for the first time in three weeks since the Donald Trump lost the presidential election. And he shat on Nate Robinson and challenged LeBron James to a boxing match. Your thoughts. This is true.

This really happened. This is true. Well, you know, like we like we said, people roasted me and you, but mostly me in the comments and that video we did. Like, what's next for Colby Covington if Trump loses. And they didn't seem to understand the point, which was that we were not here to attack him. But if you push, BC, all your chips to the middle and you don't win the hand,

there's a question about how you get money for the bus fare home. That's sort of a real legitimate thing to wonder. And I think now you're seeing him trying to find some way to continue it or pivot or you know just figure out a way forward i guess not the worst of ways you know hey look i haven't talked to you since thanksgiving how did you and abuela and uh and uncle uh pepe have a nice little get together there they're in columbia but uh some other of my wife's family are here from Colombia.

My wife made a tremendo lasagna, and it was super good. Super good. Don't forget, we did a show on Friday, but we went back to the future to record it for the future in the past with the gigawatts and Jay's

time machine. Wow, I'm glad. When you say this ultimate, because the future in the past with the gigawatts and jay's uh and jay's time machine yes so uh wow i'm glad what so when you say this ultimate because lasagna is my favorite food so what do you mean by this you know ultimate what is what what is extra on top of regular awesome lasagna well it was huge number one uh two there's like ricotta cheese in it and mozzarella and all different kinds uh the ground beef was eight the ground beef was 80-20, so it was sort of greasy. And then there was all kinds of Genoa salami and a bunch of other shit in there as well.

It was pretty fucking awesome. Can you mail me some, Luke? I mean, seriously, this is great, Luke. Yeah. Tell you what, if you ever come down to the nation's capital, we'll make you some. How about that? Maybe you and I can put our personal beefs behind us

and break bread together, our families. It'd be you some. How about that? Maybe you and I can put our personal beefs behind us and break bread together, our families. It'd be nice. I don't have beef with you. You have beef with me. That's the way this goes. All right. I don't know, Luke.

I watched that documentary. You were very, very judgmental of me in that, Luke. So, and what were you fucking Mother Teresa over there making the most amount

of judgments of anyone I'd ever seen in a 20-minute documentary? Okay. I mean, look, the sauce is the boss, Luke. I mean, we have learned that, all right? Your delusions of grandeur are quite hilarious.

But with that in mind, it's time for the viewers to ask us questions. It's time for DMs from dogs. All right, so first question, BC. This kind of gets to what we're talking about. At DB underscore Scott underscore outlaw. Is anything more polarizing than people's love hate relationship for Snoop Dogg's commentary gigs? Yeah, I thought it was pretty universal that he was hilarious this time around. And you're right.

I was surprised at how much people were like, no, that was the worst thing that ever happened. And by proxy, your instant analysis is horrible and you suck. And I hate people that aren't white. And, you know, I hate rap music. And, yeah, it was pretty hardcore. Look, I get it. You may not like Snoop Schtick. I've always liked his schtick.

In fact, you know, I met him before when I worked at ESPN. I mean, he's great. He's a freaking entertainer. He's hilarious. I love the weed culture that he brings forth. And if you're upset that he's clowning fighters and singing hilariously while Nate Robinson gets knocked out, again, it doesn't work in a real fight. It worked perfectly this time around.

I don't really understand how you can watch that and be like, F him. That's awful. But, you know, that's why we have uh variety luke and spice of life right i mean i don't understand um you know uh you send me all the time really nice family photos of uh george corpse grinder and i'm sure i'm sure you know he's a real nice dad but his art i just don't get it luke okay i really don't you know yeah i do that on instagram anytime corpse grinder posts like a family photo like here's how i'm so proud of my daughter i send it to bc uh just to annoy him but in answering the question is anything

more polarizing than people's love hate with snoop dogg i mean yeah there's probably lots of things more polarizing but um i'll say this the other thing is b2bc it's funny when you like have not heard it before and then you hear you're like oh that's great like the contender series was like every week so a it wasn't the right fit because of the nature of the fighting and b it was like sustained exposure to that i don't know how much that would be all that great but every once in a while popping in is great people have the same you know opinion of my schtick luke okay you know maybe it may have been fine a couple mma beat episodes here and there but uh three times a week plus bonus can't do it can't do it luke there are people that they just can't do you and i they want you they want the

hard they want the the damn you know they they want the the they don't want to be entertained luke they want the info and they want it now, Luke, okay? Well, that assumes that your stick is inherently entertaining. Well, no, our stick. Luke, I'm talking about what we make together. When two become one, it's like an editorial marriage, right? I think so. I think that's true.

But, I mean, you know, listen. Not everything is for everybody, BC. You know that. You know that. All right. From at Connor Hayes 101. Honestly, this is a better question than I would have assumed before. Who wins in a boxing match between Jake Paul and Dylan Danis?

It's a good one because I, well, look, I think still the Connor one is an interesting debate because only because of the size difference. Although, look, I don't care about the size difference. Connor will piece him up in my opinion. But Luke, um, can we not even even can we not even give that idea oxygen whatsoever dylan danis doesn't throw hands in real fighting much so uh i don't know luke i really don't know and he there will be a size disadvantage isn't danis a 170 pound welterweight uh you got jake paul fighting at 190 let's say they said let's meet in the middle i'm sure they could meet in the middle maybe i don't know who cares um would you would you take jake paul right now i might i might which i think is sort of hilarious to say but again his whole bit is

getting you to underestimate him and think he's some kind of easy pushover some you know paul wall who does sit-ups kind of bit and he's just though he's just the worst person in america but you know, Paul Wall who does sit-ups kind of bit, and he's just the worst person in America. But, you know, then he goes up there and does what he does to Nate Robinson. It's like, well, Nate probably and definitely can't box for shit, but can Dylan box for shit? Like, do we even know how good his hands are? I mean, the answer is there's no way to know without seeing more from Dylan. But I would, if you had asked me this question like a year ago,

I'd be like, ah, even Dylan wins that one. I don't know. I don't know how competitive that is. Kind of sad, but maybe true. Yeah. All right. From Taekwondoodmemes, what other Legends-only league fights would you make

if a second card was to be made, BC? Are we talking only boxing here? Because I think the idea of Legends-only league, from Tyson's point of view, is all sports, which, good luck to you, but come on. We're not doing that, Luke. We're not doing that. Okay, but name another big boxing fight you would make

other than the ones we've already named. All right, you know, I would use De La Hoya since he's very interested, whether it's to rematch Ike Cortez, who is also interested, or do a Trinidad or something like that for sure. Tyson Holyfield makes a ton of sense. Anderson Silva, Roy Jones, yes. who are we not thinking of luke of a retired name who is close

enough to to being in shape and would be fun and i mean prince not seem a little prince prince not seem right yeah i mean but he's been fat for a while i don't know if he you know he's sort of relying upon speed i don't know if that's something that can work out for if you could find a way to do it ricky hatton yeah hitman uh well here's it's interesting is where you know we talked last week and you didn't want to and i respect that about you know is floyd really gonna figure out how to box logan paul but floyd is at this weird point luke where he's you know he's getting older by the minute so he's probably more into the celebrity Maymac fights than any real fights so would you have any interest in Oscar Floyd too as old guys or or no like Floyd against a real retired fighter

I don't that's a good that's a great question I don't know the That's a good question. That's a great question. I don't know the answer. Because the first fight was not... Well, the only fight, really, was not that great. It was okay. It was competitive, though. It was competitive. It was competitive. But it wasn't like... Pacquiao versus De La Hoya was epic.

One, because it was a beatdown. But two, it was fucking thrilling. Heavy shots were being landed, mostly by Pacquiao. So there was something to say for that i it's a great question bc if you're asking me if is there a market for it yes would i personally want to see it in reference to the initial question we asked about the overall event i don't know i don't know i don't know how i feel about that that's that's kind of interesting i mean look if you're like hey barrera and morales or have agreed to do a fourth one but it'll be an exhibition you know old guy rules yeah i'd be i'd pop for it of course but i don't know if there's any other fighter where i mean like

de la joya for me because he's my guy but i don't know if there's any other that i'm like man i'd love to see him one more time i mean you could what about big george foreman no he's like 70 no no no come on dude he was fighting to his late 40s i know but he's well too old now i mean we're not trying to get somebody that you know we're not going for death here we're just going for dismemberment come on all right from at ilia 745 thoughts on habib buying an mma promotion he bought like guerrilla fighting championships. Does this submit that his UFC career is officially over? No, of course not. Why would it? Well, I think it means

it's more likely over Luke now that we it seems like this will be his attention now, right? I mean, what was the meeting with Dana about? What was that cryptic sort of tweet? What does it mean, Luke? Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea what the hell that's supposed to be about your guess is

legitimately if not as good better than mine I don't know I don't know what the hell him I can see you soon kind of thing is like just putting that aside buying the promotion does not in any way preclude him BC from uh excuse me going forward Because it wouldn't dominate his life. He owns it, but he's not, to my knowledge, in the day-to-day, week-to-week management of it. I'm guessing those decisions would be left to other folks who would be in charge. It would probably involve some bandwidth of his day,

but not to the point where if he actually wanted to fight, he would be prevented from doing so. It's more like something a little bit more legitimate than a vanity purchase BC, but not much more than that. Yeah. Oh, and real quick on the last question about old guy fighters, I still have a want to see some of these British retired greats. Like, we never got to see Karl Frotch against Joe Calzaghe.

If those two old guys were coming back at 45 for a fun one, I'd be into it. You know, Mikhail Kessler and Karl Frotch do a trilogy, something like that. So there's a couple other lingering one, I'd be into it. You know, McKill, Kessler, and Karl Frotz do a trilogy, something like that. So there's a couple other lingering names that I'd be into. Did you mention, did you say Kawasaki?

Did you mention him just now? Yeah. How old is he? I think he's like 44, 45. I mean, he's 48 and a half. He's not that old. No, he's not there. 47 and 0, 46 and 0, something like that.

Yeah, not that old. Some people think he won all those fights with smoke and mirrors. I'm a Super Joe believer, though, okay? All right, and then from at, I don't know how you pronounce this, Gussie underscore Nova, Gus Nova. Luke, tell us the truth. How many apple boxes did BC have to stand on on in the documentary face off to get up to your aisle bc is tall folks don't realize that he doesn't look that kind of way i don't know for

whatever reason or he doesn't have quite the rep i'm six foot four what are you bc six two six three you're right there they say for six two he stood with shoes on yeah that's bc people were like man bc's bc's as washed as i thought he would be, but he's a lot taller. Yeah, all right. Yeah, BC is legitimately, you know, profile. He's a bit of a man's man. I would take you to the hole. One-on-one right now. Maybe we can do our old old guy hoops game, okay?

Because you say you used to dunk back in the day. Back in the day. I would take you to the hole, Billy Hole, okay? All right, we'll have to see. But then if we play basketball, then we have to go to the weight room and then we get to see how much of a man you really are. All right. Then we'll go to Cumberland Farms and have an eat off.

All right, Lou. We can probably do it. Don't you fucking threaten me with a good time, young man, because I will do it. Academic decathlon, you know, I mean, Billy Madison style. It'd be great. By the way, I didn't tell you this. I told my wife in Georgia, they called it academic bowl. But this is where there's two teams, you know i mean billy madison style it'd be great by the way i didn't tell you this i told my wife uh we in georgia they called it academic bowl but this is where there's two teams you know and if

you know the answer to a question you ring the buzzer right so i did that um in high school i was pretty good at it i told my wife that i don't know how it came up i think something had come up like on a regional channel on uh on tv and my wife literally i think for like the first time in her life contemplated divorce because she was like wow i married a fucking nerd i mean uh well we should have seen the contempt do um like debate club and mock trials and that kind of shit too i didn't do mock trials i was on the debate team as well yeah oh we didn't have see i'm from a factory town i don't know if you know that so we didn't have stuff like any like debate leagues or anything that prepares you for a successful future.

We didn't really have, Luke. So, yeah. Well, you know what? Last thing on this. Debate. I found this. There's two different styles. There's policy debate.

And then there's Lincoln-Douglas. And most schools that I grew up around did not have Lincoln-Douglas. They only had policy. BC, you would hate it. It's the stupidest thing ever. And it was a major, major disappointment for me. Because what ends up happening in policy debate is, at the beginning of the year, the people in control of it, they give you a premise you have to argue over. And for one of

my years, it was the United States should substantially change its policy towards the People's Republic of China. But that can be whatever you want it to be, depending on what you want to argue. But the key is this. You just read as fast as possible. It's not actually about taking your time and making a reasoned argument it is you already have stuff prepared and you just throw the book at them as quick as you can with this like speed reading thing and i found it very totally unsatisfying i think lincoln douglas would be a little bit more of my speed kids in my school were more of like the burr hamilton debate style but style. You mean with pistols, motherfucker?

Yeah, you don't agree with me, I'll kick your ass. Yeah, that's about it. Okay, well, with that in mind, good sir, it's time to have some fun. Take it away. All right, this is what we do. We scour the globe. You know that. The highs and lows, the good and bad, the in-betweens, combat sports and beyond.

Look, it is Have You Seen This Shit? No, Luke, I will not be playing that stupid video of that fat guy fighting that woman i know everybody wants to see it it was a little overplayed this week you know i'm talking about right yeah the russian thing it was gross that was gross that was just weird all right let's go to ufc vegas luke uh on the undercard gina mazzani sent rachel ostovich to the land of of big L's with a kick to the gut. Luke, she's attractive, but she's four and six now. Is the Rachel Ostovich experiment over in your eyes? Yeah, it should be done. I mean, you were sub 500 coming into this.

You're right. It's quite the Instagram account. Not much more. Well, maybe because she jumped off that cliff and Dana wouldn't. Maybe he's a little afraid to pull the trigger. But, hey, Luke, you know who jumped out on this undercard? Check out this flyweight newcomer, Sumad Raji, I think you say it. I don't know if that's a last name or two first names or whatever.

But, Luke, he only needed 44 seconds to take Malcolm Gordon apart in round one. I don't know who this man is. Do you? Tell me about him. No, his nickname is awesome, though. The Tibetan Eagle. I bet you see some fucking sick-ass eagles out in Tibet, bro. I don't even know what they look like, but I bet they're fearsome.

Look at him. Piece him up, Luke, right? That left hand was, dude, I'm talking about perfectly timed. That dude, Gordon, ate every ounce of that punch not seeing it coming at all caught him split his timing completely i don't know how to say this guy's name sumadre i don't know something like that anyway sumadre that's your mom oh sorry his mom anyway sounded familiar uh luke uh julio cesar chavez jr was back if you want to call it that, this weekend. He had his own pay-per-view in Mexico. He stopped a hapless Jason Miranda.

Look at that uppercut attempt. It was gross. It lasted four rounds. But, Luke, what the hell kind of ring are they in? Look at the ropes. What is this? Dude, did they film this on my phone? What the fuck is this production value?

Is this in a strip club, Luke? Look at that. What is this? This is such. I mean, this production value this is a strip club luke look at that what is this is such i mean this is where he is but i'm surprised his dad even showed up in the crowd for this luke this guy did he really he did yeah yeah poor poor dad man he is such a fucking icon and legend and then he's got this like do you think he must right does chavez jr qualify as fail son as what the word fail son f-a-i-l-s-o-n it's a fail son but you put it together becomes one word it's like somebody successful whose son is just a total dipshit loser do you would you does he qualify for that you learn a new word every day i guess uh yeah he does qualify that. I mean, look, he was quasi-legitimate at middleweight when he won a championship.

Now he beat Sebastian Zbik. I mean, it's not like he was a world beater. But, Luke, he was that good because he could lose 25 pounds on the scales the day before the fight and come in like a cruiserweight. Anytime the playing field has been leveled, he's not good. Really, it's the work ethic. He's got a good chin.

He goes to the body, but there's no work ethic he sucks Luke it's a yeah it's a it's a you just wonder if there's any more names left he's kind of already played his Canelo card and lost badly he you know had that weird fight with Danny Jacobs unless he wants to rematch Sergio Martinez who's coming back right now I don't you know whatever Luke I don't care who was that guy from my area off the contender show, the Contender? Joey Gilbert? No, no, no, no. It was Jimmy something, right?

Jimmy, the white guy, right? Yes. So right after that show, you can imagine it was a hit. And I remember locally he put on fights. Jimmy Lang. Jimmy Lang. Jimmy Lang, exactly. And he's a nice guy, too.

But I remember after the Contender BC, he would fight at the patriots well now it's renamed but at the time it was the patriot center on the campus of george mason and um you know when he first got the contender series he'd be like 10 000 or more people at those things and i remember as every year after the contender series passed it'd go from 10 to 8 to 6 to 4 i think at the end there there was like two or three thousand people who might show and this is sort of that stage of his career i used to go see dickie betts of the allman brothers one of my favorite guitarists regularly luke at these clubs in connecticut and then he started playing for free at the terryville fair that's when you know it's time to uh stop showing up he's he's not paying his taxes his teeth are falling out he's still

putting his hands on women all right let's roll on here luke uh brisbane austria brisbane australia they had a boxing card over the weekend but between fights they had an auction luke how much would you have paid for this ceremonial tribute to the late kobe bryant luke i mean what are we doing here what the fuck is that a like what is it just a poster yeah it's like a collage poster. Yeah. All right. Shout out to Ring Rivals. Not much, dude. Not much. I mean, I love Kobe.

Roy Jones shouted them out with the yellow and purple gloves. See, this is what I mean. It's like all these other, and this is a low budget thing, but all these promoters are always like, we're going to do things differently. We're going to have a blank in the middle of the show. Just put on fights. You don't need concerts. You don't need auctions. Just fights. do things differently we're going to have a blank in the middle of the show just put on fights you don't need concerts you don't need auctions just fights all right uh big upset luke in argentina

this weekend walter matisse jr the nephew of lucas matisse he got sent to hell at super middleweight by franco maximiliano morello uh in the red there is uh walter jr oh good night irene uh that's the most argentinian name ever franco morello maximiliano morello yeah i mean that could there be a more argentinian name than that jesus christ maxima matisse's dad walter matisse, was also a credible journeyman. But look at the neck tats on Matisse. Very like his uncle who did his own. Do you know Lucas Matisse would do his own tats?

He learned it in jail. He would tat himself, Luke. That's wild, right? I know a lot of tattoo artists who are that way. They'll practice a little bit on themselves, but not the other way around. By the way, Lucas Matisse in his day could thump. He actually was quite the puncher for a time. Oh, yeah.

Do you remember when he saw Mike Dallas Jr. to hell in Atlantic City? Yes. The guy could let it go. And also, he fucked up my guy, Lamont Peterson. I was there for that one, too. Yep. Indeed. Indeed.

All right, Luke. Let's go down and do the Thai fight fight promotion uh in in asia this weekend check out the crowd just going sick between fights luke we don't need masks we're just gonna we're just out here dancing oh there's a mask we're just out here having a good time look at that guy in the red sweatshirt just just living luke you down with these folks with these asians uh yeah oh yeah i mean where would we be without caposa's uh twitter account right shout out to that all right hey back to boxing luke de zone was in hollywood florida you know on paper this was supposed to be a good fight danny jacobs a favorite of course a huge favorite over gabe

rosado at super middleweight luke they turned in a snooze fest Danny Jacobs escapes Jake can we advance the slide please Danny Jacobs escapes with a split decision but Luke did you see the announcers yeah he fucked it all up that was the perfect ending to this absolute dog shit fight oh my god the announcer goes your winner from Philadelphia

and as you can see Gabe Rosado started celebrating he goes from Brooklyn New York it's Danny J Luke this see, Gabe Rosado started celebrating. He goes, from Brooklyn, New York, it's Danny J. Luke, this is unfortunately Gabe Rosado's whole career summed up. So many times he's had a shot at winning. He looked like he had a case, and then the judges robbed him or the refs stopped it early. He's a great journeyman.

He's very skilled. Luke, he fought. Did you see this fight at all? Rosado fought a great game plan. Did somebody give Danny Jacobs the red pill before? What happened here, Luke? I didn't mind that. Dude, when there's that much inactivity, judging becomes that much harder.

That's a rule in MMA and boxing. So I didn't mind that Jacobs won. I didn't think that was a robbery. Did you? No. No. But you're right there was there was just such i mean the only one round little it gets it's good it fucks judges all up only one round did any of the two fighters land double digit punches it was rosado one time landed 10 it was just a horrific sparring match jacobs uh said the crowd the lack of a crowd got to him also there seemed to be some derision in Jacobs' corner.

They were just almost like, I don't know what you should do. Just go out there and throw hands, Jacobs. You can get some big fights against Canelo or against Triple G. This was gross. No action on DAZN. A lot of action in the streets, Luke.

I couldn't find you a Black Friday fight video, so how about spinny shit in a mall look at this fight that broke out luke who you got here who you got oh let's see pow son look at that dude you're getting slept outside of a fila that is the bottom that is the end of the line of the train boy i mean oh look at that guy he's already either fitting him for a coffin i mean it's one thing to get into like some trash talk with the guy from best buy but if you're gonna bring spinny shit into it that's a little unfair luke okay oh man can you imagine it's like dude where are you in life yo i gotta knock the fuck out outside

of fila i mean that is one step from just giving people blowers out the back of a sit-go. But Luke, knowing how to do spinny shit doesn't guarantee it works. Check out this from the WGP fight promotion. A man attempted spinny shit, and he walked right into one of its own, Luke. Oh, yeah. Damn, son. What is this, WGP? Yeah, I don't know what that means. World something, Luke? That's the Rolling Thunder, right? damn son what is this wgp yeah i don't know what that means world world something luke ah

that's the uh rolling thunder right yeah that is a spinning elbow attempt into a little rolling thunder business yikes i think we it feels like we've seen that because we've seen a lot just like this but anytime someone tries the spin stuff and gets caught with it it's gonna make this show i'm sorry it is what it is. Luke, let's go out to the ice. There's a lot of good fights in hockey these days. Check out this one-hitter quitter. Shades of Stu Grimson, the Grim Reaper here. Check this out.

There's no hockey. What is this from? I don't know, but it's got to be hard to fight on skates, and if you get knocked out cold, you fall face first on ice. That's got to suck, Luke. Jesus. He just went, bop. Hold that.

I mean, it's hard to get leverage on a skate, so I really give these guys credit who have figured this out. I one time saw an epic hockey fight at the Verizon Center. Who was that dude? I forgot what was his name. He was like 6'7", 6'8". He played for the Blackhawks for a time. Are you talking about Zidane Yochara from the Bruins?

The guy that was 6'8", but could fight? But he wasn't with the Bruins at the time. It might have been Chara. And I saw, what's his face? I saw, was it LaRock? The guy who one time had the wrestling video with GSP? Yes. I saw him drop the gloves a couple times, too.

That was fucking great. Hey, you want to hear a true story? There are some long YouTube rabbit holes you can go down, Luke, when you start researching this. Like Ilya Kovalchuk, remember the goal scorer from the Threshers? Yes. That guy could fight. He's got some good ones.

I think Jay's got a story for you, though, Luke. You ready for this? Yeah, no, there's a good one. There's a good one. So back when I was training with Uriah Hall, I had a guy from the Pittsburgh Penguins minor league system who came in to train, and he said, I just want to be able to fight better on ice.

That was his sole purpose in coming in to learn MMA. Who was it? Was it Evgeny Malkin, who one-hit quit Jay Beagle? Do you guys remember that? I do not. Fucking flatlined him, and there was a lot of pushback here in D.C. about it because it was a fucking vicious KO by a penguin. The Russians can fight, but Chara fights.

Yeah, if you just YouTube some Chara fights, it is unbelievable. He stopped fighting because people wouldn't fight him because he was killing people. Dude, if you're 6'7", 6'8", and then you're on those NHL kind of skates. It's like another four or five inches they're boosting your ass up. He was a towering figure on the ice. You kind of have more leverage, BC. If you are a good skater and know how to skate, you kind of have more leverage when you lean into it. Pretty scary stuff.

BC, I'm going to call this the Nate Robinson. What happened to this guy here? Just charging in. Going face first. You want to see a dead body on the football field? We got one here from Saturday's college football game, Utah, against Washington. Back on the chain gang, Luke.

Hey, back on the chain gang. And that old cooter doesn't move look at him bop oh wow it's like buddy we're not doing the planking challenge yeah i don't know if he survived this luke i feel bad remember that time i had the circus performer who died from that snake and we were almost put it on the air and then they're like bc this isn't faces of death we don't have legal clearance to show that but they're like yeah he, this isn't Faces of Death. We don't have legal clearance to show that. But they're like, hey, you want to show your penis on the air? Yeah, BC's like, hey, here's a snake eating a guy. I'm like, I don't actually want to see that.

Yeah. Luke, have you ever ridden a fire extinguisher before? No, I can't say that I have, BC. Check out that magic trick. Luke, what is going on here? What the fuck? What the fuck is that? Dude, these Russians, they're amazing people, aren't they?

Yeah, but that's like an old guy, too. Check that out. That's fantastic. How many vodka sodas did this gentleman have? Good Lord. Luke, we often ask the question, what is art? Are we art? Is art art?

Check out this toilet art on the street this is some great stuff luke it's so incredible that you know you could you could fool yourself looking at it and think it's real right a little bit yeah you could oh wow look at that that's crazy that is a uh an illustration of uh your career since joining forces with me luke right you know pretty much pretty much although it is pretty it is nice it is well so is our show you know yeah all right hey let's go over to uh skateboarding here luke check out this extra from michael jackson's beat it video gets sent. Oh God. Look. Yes. Yes. Luke,

we have a new theme here of African-American people on skateboards. Not, not a good look Luke in the end. I think, I don't know. Oh man. Wow. All right.

Uh, it's slip and slide time, Luke. Okay. You ever get drunk at a pool and you, uh, and you just sort of, yeah. Okay, you ever get drunk at a pool and you just sort of, yeah. Oh! Dude, where are they doing this where there's like

random fucking Toyotas? I think that's called a fender bender, Luke, okay? We've got another attempt at slip and slide but this time it's in a, looks like a West Virginia By the way, look at the, you missed, there's a giant fat man just watching like, oh my barn. By the way, look at the, you missed, there's a giant fat man just watching. Like, oh my God. Oh, you know what this is?

These might be Marines or sailors, depending. Yep. Doing a beer slide on a table. Get stupid prizes. Yep. Get a concussion. That is great. Luke, do you ever wonder how these waiters and waitresses do it?

Do you ever figure out how to carry 10 beers at one time? Check out this guy's style. All right. Check out this technique yeah man hey can i have my beer with your fucking fingers on it you disgusting human being that's not covid friendly luke but uh well done just the same on that all right it's like you fuck you look guys um i had to scratch my balls in my anus i had food poisoning. Let me get your beers for you. Luke, you ever hear that Rolling Stones song, Wild Horses?

Yeah. Wild Horses. Couldn't drag me away. I think I'm going to have to drag away this next guy, Luke. What is going on here, Luke? It's a beautiful horse. Yeah, fantastic. Send somebody to hell. Yes. on here look it's a beautiful horse yeah fantastic said somebody that horse was like hey we're gonna joust when right now that is great i got one more for you luke it's the self-induced ko of the week check out this flamboyant fella. I don't know what he was attempting.

But you, sir, there's a spot for you in hell. Luke, watch him have to do the crawl of shame to try to get the phone because he's obviously filming himself. And this fucking asshole is at work. Oh, he got worked. He did get worked. Look at him. He's got his apron on so I'm guessing he's like, you know,

he's a cook or a florist or some shit. He's got his apron on so i'm guessing he's like you know he's a cook or a florist or some shit he's got a name tag so my man is at work playing games you have to wonder how we end up with this footage like did he send it to like a friend saying hey look what happened to me today so some friend was filming this and then the guy was like dude don't post it on the internet he's like dude i would never post it on the internet and then the first thing he did was go to the bathroom and post it on the internet oh that's great look that's all the i actually have a bone to pick a minor one how have we gone this long and you have not shown the clip of the old man in florida 74 years old with the cigar in his mouth, whose puppy got snatched by a small,

but still, you know, deadly alligator. And the 74 year old man jumps in the water and wrestles the bitch free. I, I, I was a little bit too fearful that the dog was like permanently hurt. Luke. No, I looked into it. The dog had to get a couple of stitches. It's okay. Okay.

Cause I've got a tiny dog and she, I regularly Not regularly, but I've had to pull Dead mice out of her mouth, rabbits that she caught In the yard, I mean, she'll grab them and squeeze them And they're dead, and she's only this big, Luke Okay, so I don't know No, no, no, the guy got in there, and the best part was The old dude with the cigar, he kept it in his mouth The entire time

I was like, that guy needs the Presidential Medal of Freedom If anybody does Yeah, he does, he does, Luke, indeed Alright, that's all I got He does, Luke, indeed. All right, that's all I got this week, Luke. I got to catch a plane to L.A. Let's make this happen. Very good. All right, with that in mind, BC, time for odds and ends.

What do you have for your odds and ends, good sir? Yeah, so I referenced that earlier, but we finally got that fight between unbeaten British heavyweights Joe Joyce against Daniel Dubois this past weekend. It was rescheduled a crap ton of times. I actually forgot it was this weekend, Luke. It was an afternoon show on ESPN+. Turns out the 35-year-old Joe Joyce wins out in the end.

Look, I didn't think the fight was great. It was a strategic sort of jab fest, but Joyce landed consistently with that big jab and slowly started closing the 23-year-old Dubois' eyes. I don't think either fighter did a ton to make you go, Hey, let's put them in there with Wilder and fury, but this was an important fight.

And I do credit British matchmaking because Luke, they try to put, you know, John Jones and Ryan Bader in there at the right times, you know, when they're both unbeaten to figure out who's got next. And it turns out a, a jab to that swollen and closed eye in the 10th round caused Dubois to take a,'s got next. And it turns out a jab to that swollen and closed eye

in the 10th round caused Dubois to take a late knee and then he decided not to get up. Yes, there was some derision that he quit. Turns out he not only had the broken eye socket, Luke, he did have nerve damage on top of that. It is the brutality of this sport. But hey, a big win for Joe Joyce, who got into the game late.

We've seen him before on Showtime under, pay-per-view undercards, but this is a big win. Joe the joyce who got into the game late we've seen him before on on showtime under pay-per-view undercards but uh this is a big win that joe the juggernaut joyce i think you're gonna have to move him quicker than normal because of his age i don't think he's a world beater luke but he needed to win this one to sort of have next and uh i enjoyed the fight it wasn't great i enjoyed it it was okay his eye was a mess like you're we talked about earlier like when you can mock fighters you gotta be a real prick to mock that guy. His eye was fucking shut and looked bad.

My odds and ends here very quickly. De La Hoya, Oscar De La Hoya went on the Aachen Barack show on SiriusXM. Shouts to those guys. And it seemed like tried to bury the hatchet with Dana White. Now, for years, De La Hoya and Dana White had a really good relationship. And then out of nowhere, during I think it was the Conor and Mayweather fight, Oscar kind of lost his mind on him and, you know, really went after Dana. And then when he was, you know, sort of pumping up to zone, was like pay-per-views dead, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. On my show, Oscar wanted to box Dana

White and threatened to do it. And then on this show, he was like, you know, Dana White getting into boxing would be great. Golden Boy and UFC UFC partnering I think would be amazing you know Dana if you're out there let's talk and I'm like dude what the fuck does De La Hoya want I can't tell if he's coming or going if he believes in any of this stuff anymore or if it's just promoter speak but there's really no I mean listen you got to give Aram consistency the guy just shits on mma every time like you can hate the opinion but it basically stays the same year over year dan lo hoya is all over the place bc and i really don't know what to make of it no he is all over the place he uh it's it's a credit that this company's still running i know

he's in a ceremonial spot to some degree there are some smart people behind him but look they lost canelo they lost Canelo. They lost their meal ticket. Yes. They got Ryan Garcia. Yes. They have Virgil Ortiz jr. Who we just showed in those pictures,

but it's no C it's no surprise Luke that he's thinking, okay, Dana's got money and distribution and attention. Maybe I can try to pair up with him and provide fighters to fight against his crossover MMA guys, or just team up with his money. Yeah, it's not a shocker knowing Oscar's constant flip-flopping on everything. I mean, look, this dude offered Canelo to fight Conor McGregor.

Then when McGregor chose Mayweather, sent a letter to the media telling all boxing folks to boycott the fight. Like, come on, you know, like, stop. By the way, I saw on his Instagram page, Fat Joe seems to like him. We're talking about heavy hitters in boxing. Do you see Edgar? I think it's Edgar Berlanga. Is that his name? Yes.

The Puerto Rican kid? He has a fight on the 12th. I don't know who it's against. Didn't seem like it was anybody particularly interesting, but you're talking about some of boxing's heaviest punchers. Edgar Berlanga back in action on the 12th. I don't know who it's against. Didn't seem like it was anybody particularly interesting, but you're talking about some of boxing's heaviest punchers. Edgar Berlanga back in action on the 12th. Yeah, what is he? 16-0 with 16 first-round KO? Something like that?

He is fun to watch. I mean, look, you don't know if he's got any sort of stamina because he's blowing through dudes, but that's impressive. Alright, so with that in mind, you see BC's shirt. What were you going to say, BC? I was going to say, we didn't talk about this, but do you want to bring back homework this week at all?

Do you want to pick something or do you want to push that off? I don't have anything top of mind. I don't have anything top of mind. Okay, we can talk offline. I got a lot of free time this week in a hotel room in Los Angeles. So, yeah, let's see. All right, so first things first, if you want one of BC's shirts, 30% off today, not just on the shirt, but all MK merch.

Use the code CYBER by going to store.show.com. Plug in that code. You can take $3 off of every $10. What better deal is that than this one? I don't know. So, first of all, there's that. If you want to try Showtime and time to try the Hector Camacho documentary, good news, you can try it for 30 days for free.

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I mean, Luke, you detonated his character on the documentary. Yes, Jay, your rebuttal to our very factual statements about you. What would that be? I think it's pretty much all true. See, there you go, BC. You thought I was being mean i was just you know obviously i had seen it in advance i knew it was coming but uh i was actually genuinely surprised that that was the trailer i was like wow okay now jay i didn't make that personal ig so he couldn't have hated it that much luke no Not at all. I didn't make the trailer, man, so take that up with the guy that made it, not me. Yeah, I was like, wow, okay, all right, we're doing this, all right.

By the way, if you want to get at Jay or you want to send mean things to me or submissions for Dead Wrong or submissions for fan submissions, anything, email us, morningcombat at gmail.com. That's going to be your place to be and uh again bc gotta thank everyone got us over 70k for the month you know i would like to end the year at 75 but because we have a flyweight title main event for our last pay-per-view of the year i don't think that's all that doable but bc but we got a conor mcgregor fight in january big doings ahead in 2021.

Yeah, Canelo's back this month. That don't suck. So a couple things on the burner. I'll be in L.A. this week for Thursday night's NBC Sports Ring City USA card. And so we'll see if that McDonald's Wi-Fi works over on the left coast. Hey, maybe I'll call up Big Brown. We'll have a nice Brown on Beige Fest. Maybe.

Are you going to do an instant reaction for the Spence-Garcia fight? Yes. Oh, yeah. Good reminder that not only is that pay-per-view this Saturday, a Fox pay-per-view. Yes. I'll be back, by the way. I'll be back home by Saturday. But yeah, Luke, not only will I be doing that, but please check out already interviews with Danny Garcia and Errol Spence Jr. that are already published on YouTube on the Morning

Combat channel. We're going to be previewing that fight, obviously, later in the week along with UFC. And, Luke, you've got a pretty big guest lined up this week as well. Yeah. Tomorrow I'm talking to Dustin Poirier in the afternoon, so that should be up a little bit later in the day, probably around 5 or 6 p.m. East Coast time. I'll have a conversation with Dustin Poirier up.

We're ready for you guys. Looking forward to talking to him. Fighting Conor in January, baby. Cannot wait for that one. So he should be a fun conversation as well. All right, BC. 25 minutes to make 25 years make sense, right? Something like that.

30 minutes to make life fair, my friend. BC, I wish you nothing but safe travels. Enjoy Los Angeles. Please don't get COVID. Wear a mask and do all that good stuff, okay? I'll be quarantined, Luke, so yes, thank you. Very good. All right, for BC, for Jay, for Malka and Showtime, I'm Luke Thomas.

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