MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - 🚨 UFC 256 Instant Reaction: Deiveson Figueiredo vs. Brandon Moreno | Tony Ferguson vs. Charles Oliveira

Episode Date: December 13, 2020

At UFC 256, UFC flyweight champion Deiveson Figueiredo put his title on the line against top contender Brandon Moreno in the main event at the UFC Apex in Las Vegas, Nevada, on pay-per-view. In the co-main event, former interim lightweight champion Tony Ferguson faced off against rising Brazilian contender Charles Oliveira. --------------------------------- 'Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit: store.sho.com   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat  To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

you hear that paid and done that's the sound of bills being paid on time but with the bimo eclipse rise visa card paying your bills could sound like this yes earn rewards for paying your bill in full and on time each month rise to rewards with the bimo eclipse rise visa card terms and conditions apply hello everybody it is saturday night well i guess sunday morning right here in ufc 256 Rise to rewards with the BMO Eclipse Rise Visa Card. Terms and conditions apply. Hello, everybody. It is Saturday night. Well, I guess Sunday morning right here, and UFC 256 is in the books. My name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of the hosting duo from Morning Combat.

Brian Campbell, my colleague, gave you guys an immediate reaction to the Joshua fight that happened earlier today. And I'm going to take you through an immediate reaction to UFC 256's main and co-main event. The results are in, and there's a lot to get to. First things first, please like the video, of course, and we always appreciate that when you do, and hit that subscribe button. We definitely need that from you folks, and we appreciate you watching, but we need that participation from you if you can. Now, what do we have to say about Deveson Figueredo and Brandon Moreno?

What do we have to say about Tony Ferguson and Charles Oliveira? Let's get into it. Now, for a fuller card breakdown, you can wait for the full episode of Morning Combat that'll happen at 11 a.m. on Monday, 11 a.m. Eastern. That will have Brian's opinion, mine, plus a whole lot more than just what I'm going to cover here, but it is worth getting to the main and co-main event.

All right, so Deveson Figueredo and Brandon Moreno had a draw, a majority draw. The judges had. So, Devison Figueredo and Brandon Moreno had a draw, a majority draw. The judges had it 47-46 for Figueredo and then two 47-47s there. Okay. What can we say about this fight? There's a lot to say about this fight, in fact. In terms of my scoring, I wasn't doing it in the way you're supposed to, round by round, and then scoring 10-9. It seemed to me that Figueiredo had won more rounds than Moreno, but this is key, was it the second or third round, there was a point taken from Figueiredo for an inadvertent but still quite severe kick to the groin

on Brandon Moreno, and I didn't mind that. There were some smaller fouls that Figueiredo had landed earlier in the fight, and this was the one that had really sort of stopped the action for the most part. And you could see Moreno in extraordinary discomfort, and the replay showed that, again, not intentional, but just very severe. So, referee Jason Herzog took a point, and that, of course, is going to affect the scores as well. I don't...

Here's my, again, and your mileage will vary on this one. To me, the acceptable outcomes are a draw. I don't think there's any problem with that or a win for Figueiredo. I think the argument that Moreno, even with the point deduction for Figueiredo did enough to win, that's a little bit of a weaker argument, but I have to say, you know, in fairness to everybody else, there was a ton of diversity of scores all over social media. What's kind of funny is in a draw, you don't normally get fight fans who are pleased. I mean, they might sort of say reluctantly, yeah, you know, this was the right outcome in terms of, you know, if you're properly scoring it, but that doesn't mean they really enjoyed the

fight or sometimes you can't even get that, that the judges might've messed it up. In other words, when you get a draw, that's not really the kind of finality that fight fans are looking for. Here you had a draw, and I think most fight fans who are watching tonight are quite pleased with it. That is a fair reflection, again, also adding in that point deduction of what had happened. So kind of an interesting moment. Now, we'll circle back to this, but I kind of want to introduce it this way. Some are calling it the best fight in flyweight history. It might be. If it's not, it's number two or three on the list, you know, bare minimum top five.

But it's higher than that. This is one of the best fights in that division's history. Now, the fifth round to me fell off a cliff, but the first four rounds, absolute, total, unequivocal magic. I mean, just the best thing, okay? What you had, it seemed to me, was you had a Figueiredo who was, I think, surprised by a couple of things. One, just the grit and tenacity of Moreno. I think Moreno's counter-punching on occasion was great. There were times where he was able to get Moreno backed up behind the two black lines along the fence line, and then he would just unload with combos.

He was good with sort of firing the head kick, especially kind of early. He landed a couple times late, but I mean, he was very diligent about it early. And he just fought with a way where you could just tell he believed in himself. And I know that sounds really weird. You're like, doesn't everyone at this level basically fight like they believe in themselves? And I would argue no, especially when it's pretty clear that there are some obvious disadvantages. And the obvious disadvantage would be, even though Moreno was doing some things quite wisely and I thought was quite good with the takedowns, the firepower was pretty different.

It looked to me like Figueiredo hit harder, certainly punched harder, and it also looked to me like he was physically stronger of the two. So while he was getting taken down, and that was a bit of an issue for him, he just looked like the guy who was the more physical athlete in that space. And you could see that, not that Moreno was getting wide-eyed, but he was wearing it a little bit.

His right eye got messed up. There were some other issues with his arms that commentator Joe Rogan went into that I don't know necessarily was related to the pure firepower of Figueiredo. But Figueiredo was busting him up pretty good. And yet the guy just refused to go away. I mean, Moreno had, A, would return fire. And so there's a question about was it enough or greater than Figueiredo. But at bare minimum, trying to answer, if you land on me, I'm going to try and give you one back.

There was all of that. And, you know, he never got tired. Amazingly, Figueiredo, even though he had a, cuts a lot of weight, he had a weight cut three weeks ago. He did not get tired. Both guys seemed to have a lot of energy in the fifth. Even though the fifth round kind of stalled out, it didn't stall out because of, it seemed like a strategic stall out, not a physical stall out.

But, you know, Moreno to me, like the guy, excuse me, I should say, Figueiredo looked to me like the guy who really had the physical might and was the bigger of the two. But Moreno had unbelievable heart, I think was surprising with the takedowns, as I indicated, good with the counterpunching on occasion, and absolutely committed to the idea that

this was a winnable contest for him and fought that way all the way through. I cannot tell you how many times I've watched a guy fight who was very talented that maybe if they had that kind of belief, they could have beaten the person they were up against, but they felt that person's pressure or power punching or something early. And even if they didn't get finished, you didn't get the best out of him. What was interesting about this contest was you didn't get the most dominant Brandon Moreno, and you didn't get the most dominant Devis and Figueiredo, but you got excellent versions of themselves.

You got a real nice showcase of what they're both good at. I think Figueiredo has surprisingly good range command. Obviously, as we've said, quite the power puncher on the ground. He is not to be trifled with. Moreno would get the takedowns, but it's not like he was able to just dominate and control him down there. So he's a really good jujitsu, but good scrambling as well. And again, I was surprised by his ability to go as long as he did without any kind of cardio issues. And you got to see that from Moreno too. Absolute dog. Clever when he needs to be.

Surprising in a lot of different ways. And that made for an absolutely compelling contest. I want to pull up the numbers if I can. I don't know if these are exactly final final. But it's worth sort of pointing out some of the data from this fight, from fight metric. I'm going to look it up here as I speak to you guys right now. Golly, listen to these numbers. Figueiredo landed 137 of 238 attempted, and Moreno landed 132 of 248 attempted. So Moreno

landed just a little bit less and tried just a little bit more. A 57% significant strike percentage for Figueredo. Just 53% for Moreno. When I say just, I mean just four points less. Unbelievable. Total strikes, yeah, they were all kind of at range, basically. Takedowns, two of four for Figueredo. Four of eight for Brandon Moreno.

That was very surprised. And in terms of location, this was the one that was kind of interesting. No leg kicks for Brandon Moreno. Not any that landed. He was going to the body and then mostly to the head. Figueredo, a lot different. Two-thirds of his punches or his strikes, I should say, were targeted to the head. 24% to the body, less so to the leg at 7%. And this fight, over 90% of it taking place at distance.

Yeah, an unbelievable output. And the biggest one of all the rounds was round four. 38 of 53 for Figueiredo, 40 of 65 for Brandon Moreno. Just an absolute, you know, two guys who wring out the sponge until it is absolutely dry. So to me, it's easily the best fight since Poirier versus Hooker at the apex. Now listen to what I'm saying. I tweeted it and folks were like,

no, it's better than that. Well, listen to what I'm saying. You might be able to make that claim. I'm just pointing out, if you take that as one bookend, what's the next best fight that has taken place there since then? To me, this is the answer.

Is it the best flyweight fight in history? You'd have Mighty Mouse versus John Dodson 2 up there. Dustin Ortiz versus Benavidez is another one you'd have up there. And there's some other ones as well. And I'm pointing out, like, this is the company they're keeping. They're keeping company with Mighty Mouse. They're keeping company with Benavidez, the two guys previously who were kind of the sort of champion and unofficial, you know, executive officer, uh, of that, of that weight class. Um, you know, a historic moment really for that, for that division. And I said this on Twitter and I'll, and I'll say it again here, you know, 10 years ago, Kane notwithstanding, um, it was impossible to imagine that a Mexican MMA fighter, uh, could give a Brazilian MMA fighter everything that he could handle and then maybe

even beat him. And of course, Kane is American and sort of Mexican by heritage, and there's a lot of complications about how one defines identity. But I'm talking about homegrown from Mexico, grew up with one of the teams there, trains with one of the teams, and is putting it all together and showing what he's showing. The maturation of a market is slow. It takes time. It's not easy.

It's not automatic. But it can happen. And you're beginning to see really, and it's not just him, of course. It's the wide-ranging amount of Mexican fighters who are showing themselves to be quite capable. But what he did tonight was unthinkable a decade ago. If you take out Cain Velasquez, totally unthinkable. And look how far it's come in 10 years. I mean, it's pretty impressive.

It's very, very impressive. So the more countries that get good at MMA, the better MMA will get, and the safer it will be as a sport that can be supported by a lot of different audiences. So very, very congratulations to all the Mexican MMA fans out there and really MMA fans in general. Everyone kind of wins when it's one of those scenarios. So what would be next? I don't know because this was an absolute god-awful war of attrition. They might run it back. It's not exactly clear. You've kind of got some other names out there like Askarov, although he's got some business to attend to.

We're going to see. Maybe Cody Garbrandt goes down there. There's a lot of ways that things could go. But at a bare minimum, this was a moment for folks to realize Brandon Moreno is still young and has already come a long way and probably still has a very long way to go. If he's not the president of that division, he might just be the future. For Figueiredo, I think it's probably a wake-up call that as good as he is, he is not going to dominate this where he can just walk in and take control of a division. The way he got through Alex Perez, that was impressive.

They're not all going to be like that. You're going to have some nights like tonight where it was dicey. It was super dicey. So, hell of a fight. Would love to know if you guys think it's the best fight in flyweight history. Not a very hard argument to make. I just wonder where the consensus is. So if you have a feeling on that, please put a comment in the comments below.

I'd love to see what the argument is from you and to see how many of you feel that way. Again, not a very difficult argument to make. So, you know, one of those nights where you just wouldn't want to be anywhere else. Like when you're watching a fight like that, you're like, oh my God, you know, I am in on a secret that nobody else knows, you know? And of course that's not true, but you kind of feel that way. That's exactly how I felt tonight. And even in a pandemic wouldn't have wanted to be anywhere else than exactly where I was watching that fight. So I appreciate what those fighters were able to do. And I appreciate that I had the opportunity to enjoy that moment in the way that I did. Okay. So we'll have a lot more to say about that, but that's a basic overview of that main event. Actually, let's talk more about the

co-main event. So your co-main event, let me make sure I get the numbers here correct. Charles Charles Oliveira defeats Tony Ferguson 30-26, 30-26, 30-26. Where might that 30-26 come from? The first round. Charles Oliveira basically, it looked to me like if he didn't break Tony's arm, he got pretty close to it, and he absolutely dominated him. Let's take a step back. I have a lot to say about this, but I want to start with Charles Oliveira. 31 years old, I believe. Let me verify that, too. I want to make sure I don't say, yeah, 31 years old. This guy came into the

UFC how long ago? He made his UFC debut in 2010. So he was what, 21 years old when he came into the UFC? How many times have we said this? We talked about it with Marvin Vittori. Sometimes when you get to the UFC, people will get a certain impression of you. And it's not to say that the impression is wrong, maybe that's just where you are at the moment that folks begin to make some assessments, but you have to be very careful not to get a super inflexible identity as an observer. You can't look at these fighters and say, that's who they are. Well, that might be who they are then, but that's not who they're always going to be and that's especially true if they're young here in the case of Olivera he was obviously always quite good on the ground but at 21 years

old he was not in the right weight class or maybe he was at the time but you know he as he developed it became more and more of a liability it just wasn't the right space his game in terms of the rest of the pieces had had not come along. And just understanding how to fight, even if you have all the pieces, the patience of his offense tonight was absolutely incredible. Let me just say something. Ten years later, Charles Oliveira is a completely different guy than the guy who beat Darren Elkins by armbar August 1st of 2010,

the night that Jon Jones fought Vladimir Matyushenko in San Diego, California on Versus. Totally different guy. I mean, that sounds like you're talking about a bygone era of MMA, and you are. You know, that's when he made his debut. And I'm not saying that everyone watching made their impression of him from that moment, but you know, he had losses to Cerrone and Miller and Swanson and Edgar and into Holloway and blah, blah, blah.

And you kind of thought, okay, he can beat all the ones who aren't the super elite, but he can't beat the other ones. And then, lo and behold, he just got better and better and better. It's a call to everyone, fellas, ladies, MMA fans, if somebody is very young, and when I say young, I'm 25-ish or so, in this case, 21, and they're good, but they're not so good, okay, don't make them out to be better than they are. And just because they're not fully developed doesn't mean they're going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. They may top out at just being okay, but you want to be very careful

before you declare what their true identity is. Have it be flexible a little bit because Oliveira has turned out to be one of the very best lightweights in the world. I mean, now that Nurmagomedov is gone, who has a better ground game at 155 than him? I mean, maybe you could say Nate Diaz. I don't think that's a crazy argument to make, but he's not really fighting there right now anyway. Who is it? Is it Conor? No. Poirier is very good, but I wouldn't put his ground game on par with it. Felder? Felder beat him in the ground, but in terms of just sort of pure jiu-jitsu and threats he has down there, I wouldn't say that. Chandler? No. I mean, who are you going to point to? I mean, that is the king of the ground right now at 155 pounds. And you know,

I would have loved to have seen maybe how this version of him would look against Habib. You who are you going to point to? I mean, that is the king of the ground right now at 155 pounds. And you know, I would have loved to have seen maybe how he, this version of him would look against a beep. You cannot overstate just how good he has gotten. Super, super, super impressive. Kept his nose down and just got better and better and better. The guy hasn't lost since he lost to Paul Felder in December.

And since then he has submitted Clay Guida. He submitted Christos Kiagos. He submitted Jim Miller. He submitted David Tamer. He knocked out, or TKO'd anyway, Nick Lance. He did knock out Jared Gordon. He submitted Kevin Lee. And then today, absolutely dominated, dominated Tony Ferguson.

I mean, that is the signature win he was looking for. Those other names are good. Some of them even great. That is elite. He has now an elite win on his resume and it's not close. Wasn't like he took a split decision. Wasn't like he got dropped and had to recover. He controlled that fight from beginning to end and that's the end of it. Okay. That is an absolutely unbelievable transformation for that guy. And, and he should be very proud of himself and his team should be very proud of him as well. So, um, it'll be interesting to see what's next for him. He didn't take a lot of abuse. Um, he, he wants to be ringside or cage side for the winter of party and McGregor.

We'll have to see, you know, we'll have to see what happens between Gaethje and Chandler. If that's the fight they make, there's a lot, there's so many great options, but folks, Charles Oliveira has arrived. And this is a moment where even, you know, years ago I was a skeptic. I was like, okay, he can beat the Gagos's and the David Tamers and the Nick Lances, but he's not going to beat anyone else. And then he just did. And then before this, I have a high respect for Kevin Lee

and he beat him too. Folks, whatever you thought of Charles Oliveira, if you didn't think he was all that great, you better update the resume. He has completely arrived. Now, that brings us to Tony Ferguson. What do we say? Well, one,

the first thing I want to say is, it obviously I'm sure is breaking a lot of people's hearts to see the beating he took against Justin Gaethje and then to just get dominated the way he did tonight. I mean, who controls Tony like that on the ground? I mean, understand the levels to jiu-jitsu, right? As a very basic way of explaining jiu-jitsu. And this is super basic, but it's generally true. Three levels. Survival, defend, attack. There were some defending in there. A lot of it was survival, especially from mount, right? Where you're in such a bad position, all you can do is just hang on for dear life, okay?

I've just never seen anyone do that to Tony. So Tony is, I think 36. Uh, when, when does he turn 37? He turns 37 in February. So not far. He'll be 37 very soon in about less than two months. Um, what does that mean? Well, we should be very careful about what we want to say. Does it mean he won't have another win again? Absolutely not. Does it mean that he won't have another win against a very good fighter, maybe even an elite one again? No, it does not.

But it also means to me, when you look around, Khabib is now gone. We'll see what happens between Poirier and McGregor. What's happened to Ferguson happened to him. To me, there is some decline that I think you have to account for. Whenever you have a win like this, people don't want to... In MMA, it's especially true.

In boxing, they'll call it out right away. MMA fans get treated to a steady diet of commentary and events that always acknowledges how happy everything is, and how good everything is, and how much everyone has fixed all all their problems and how everyone has ironed out all their issues and that's the end of it. But the reality is that's just not how the fight game works. You don't want to bury somebody ahead of time. And I've made that mistake before

and really had to pay for it. I've talked about it a million times. If there's one error I have made, it was deciding that I thought Arlovsky was done long before that was actually true. And I regret it. And it's one of my things I'm most embarrassed about. And that was so wrong. And I don't want to make that mistake twice. I'm not telling you that Ferguson is done

or can't get some really good, interesting, clever wins. What I am telling you is, you still cannot, A, disregard that the beating he took against Gaethje. You can't declare that it had carry over to this fight, but I really do wonder, and it's certainly something you cannot dismiss. I didn't see Eddie Bravo. I didn't see Rashad Holloway in his corner.

Maybe they were there. I misinterpreted it, so I want to be clear. But I didn't know that he had the same coaches. And, yes, on the ground, that Oliveira is going to beat just about anyone in that way on the ground at 155. But even on the feet, he just wasn't pulling the trigger quite the same way. He just didn't have the same zip and pop and command. He was taken down three times against Kevin Lee, but he also had really good takedown defense against RDA. And RDA, granted, is not Charles Oliveira. I'm just pointing out, it just seemed like sometimes fighters get to a certain level

and then they decline from that. I don't know if that's the case. But the evidence is pretty clear that sometimes fighters can get to a good place and then the game just catches up. I mean, do I think Jon Jones is a better version of a fighter than he was five, six, seven years ago? Yeah, of course I do. But the game has caught up.

That's how you have a guy like Dominic Reyes who can start pro MMA in 2014 and then, in my mind, take three rounds from him. It's because the game just catches up at times. The game is catching up. And at 36, 37 years old at heavyweight, that's not that big a deal. Heavyweight fighters are kind of old. In fact, 37 is not necessarily age prohibitive whatsoever. At welterweight, which you have Tyron Woodley, 38 years old, or at lightweight, he'll soon be 37. He's 36 now. Again, not in any way some kind of like, oh, the end is here, and then cashing your chips, and that's the end of

it. That's not what I'm saying. But time is not on his side. And for him to get beaten up the way he did against Gaethje, and then to just not only lose three rounds, but like lose him kind of badly, it's not a great sign. It's not a great sign. Folks sometimes in MMA just want to say, oh, well, one guy was just better than the other, and the other one's just the same as they've always been.

But if you're just the same as they've always been. But if you're just the same as they've always been, and there was a guy you would have beaten eight out of the last ten years, maybe even nine out of the last ten years, and not this year, it means the game is catching up to the level of stasis that you are providing. Or at least, that's one, it seems, I want to be careful about this. Even if you can't declare that outright, that is a fair, that's a reasonable conclusion to draw.

If you don't want to draw it right yet, because you want to see more like a Tyron Woodley situation where let's see if one more time, two more times, and let's see where we get from there, fair. Again, I don't want folks to give up hope

and say the end is nigh, but you can't take beatings in this game and just decide they don't have a role or repeated injuries and say that they don't have a role or repeated injuries and say that they don't play a role or the case of his arm in this fight. I mean, I'll say this about Tony Ferguson, uh, 99% of black belts would have tapped forget humans. 99% of black belts would have tapped and he didn't because he is just in his mind. It's so strong, but sometimes your mind can be strong and your body won't catch up.

I'm just saying, however you want to frame it, beating Mike Rio, Katsunori Kakuno, Danny Castillo, Abel Trujillo, Gleason Tebow, Josh Thompson, Edson Barbosa, Lando Venata, Rafael dos Anjos, Kevin Lee, Anthony Pettis, and Donald Cerrone as late as June 2019. You can't get all those wins, all those rounds, all those times, and then you drop eight and A, just decide the person's not good anymore, which is not what I'm suggesting. But B, say that they're as good as they've ever been.

Maybe there's a decline from their own level of ability and or the rest of the game has leveled up itself, even if he stayed the same. It is worth acknowledging that this is a part of the game that sucks. As a media member, when you say these kinds of things, you don't do it to be mean or rude or awful or to be hurtful. Tony Ferguson has been a source of joy for thousands, millions of fight fans. He has done something.

I mean, that win streak from the Rio fight to the Cerrone fight, truly one of the most incredible things you'll ever see, not only that division and all of MMA, and that he never really got the title shot when he probably should have, and then he got the belt, but he tripped over a cable on a fucking wire in a studio. Like, you know, the fortunes didn't smile upon him the way that he was owed, man. He was owed those things and he didn't get them. I don't want to lose sight of that. And I don't want folks to ever think anything less of him. I just also cannot get on here and say, yeah, same old Tony, same, same old thing. It's just that Olivera is a lot better.

Okay. There is no denying Olivera is a lot better. And maybe Oliveira would have beaten 2017 Tony Ferguson. I don't know. But you can't lose the way he's losing. And sometimes in the fight game, you just get old overnight. Look at Tyron Woodley, right? I mean, he was just on top of the game until he wasn't. And now you're like, well, I don't know where he goes from here. That's not necessarily the place that Tony finds himself in. But tonight when you saw Jacare losing, I don't know where he goes from here. That's not necessarily the place that Tony finds himself in.

But tonight when you saw Jacare losing, I don't know how many in a row, JDS losing four in a row, Woodley three in a row, it is hard to be an elite fighter as the sport gets younger, which I think that it is as fighters get into the sport earlier. They're making their debuts a little bit earlier. And it's hard to maintain that dominance. You know, maybe Nurmagomedov's getting out at the right time, and maybe the bout all along was never going to be Tony versus Habib.

It should have been Habib versus, I don't know, Oliveira maybe. It looks to me like if Habib had fought this version of Ferguson, whether in May or any other time, April in Brooklyn or whatever, it looks to me like Habib probably would have won, and not without, or I should say without much issue. That's speculative. Nobody knows.

So it's a big reset moment for Tony. Tony has a lot of resetting to do to get back to a point where he can showcase what made him good, which was predictability mixed with a ton of unpredictability, which was iron jaw, big punching power, well-roundedness, ability to scramble, offense from everywhere, and credit to Oliveira for taking a lot of that away with the game plan that he had. It was really, really smart, and it was dominant, and that's, if not the best jiu-jitsu in the UFC in terms of MMA,

like how it applies in MMA. It's, you know, top three, top two. Charles Oliveira is the man. So a painful loss, I think, for Tony Ferguson and his army of fans, and I understand that. Let's be careful about this. Let's see what he can cook up in his next fight. But I don't know how you can look at those eight rounds

and you can say, oh, he won the second. I mean, sort of. He dropped Justin at the end of the second round. But in general, that was a fight that was headed one way for the majority of the time. And he survived this one. But his arm is a disaster, I'm sure, today. And eight rounds, all of a sudden, where you're getting crushed, the game, the rest of the game, people are leveling up around you. Which means your place in the division is not as ironclad as it once is.

And quite literally, he's going to suffer a stock drop on this one. So we'll have to see what he can do from here. It's going to be a big test to regroup from this one. But if anyone is mentally tough enough to regroup from that task, it is probably, if not certainly him. All right, well, there is so much more that happened. We will get to all of it on Monday's Morning Combat, 11 a.m. live. Brian will be with me. You guys will be with me. Instagram tomorrow, Morning Combat, we'll put up a post where you can leave all your questions for us. We could talk Mackenzie Dern. We can talk more

about the flyweight fight. We can talk about everything from the main and prelim card and blah, blah, blah, everything up and down. Whatever is on your mind, we will get to it. Okay. So thumbs up on the video, hit subscribe and, uh, what a night of fights. Thank you guys so much for joining me. And until next time, uh, I'll see y'all later.