MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC 264 Recap | Poirier vs. McGregor | Gilbert Burns | Sean O'Malley | Ep 178

Episode Date: July 12, 2021

On Episode 178 of Morning Kombat Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell are back from Vegas to recap UFC 264. Dustin Poirier beat Conor McGregor via Doctors Stoppage. How badly does this damage McGregor's brand (8:50)? Does the fourth fight make sense? Gilbert Burns defeated Stephen Thompson via unanimous decision. Is this the end for Wonderboy (37:50)? Tai Tuivasa defeated Greg Hardy via first-round Ko. What's next for Greg Hardy (44:10)? UFC 264 had some great fights what other storylines are the guys looking at coming out of Saturday (44:10). The guys close out the show with Dm's from donks, HYSTS and Odds & ends. Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit: store.sho.com   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat  To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Reveille, Reveille, dogs. Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life. This is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. All right. Can you believe it?

We made it. We landed on the moon. Hi, everyone. My name is Luke Thomas, and this is Morning Combat, episode, I think, 178. I am just one half, though, of your hosting duo. This could not be done without royalty sitting to, I guess, well, my left, kind of. He is the king of Connecticut. He is back home where he belongs.

Eating some booty-os. It's Brian Campbell. What's up, Brian Campbell? Shout out to our favorite MK listener, the Big E of WWE. My man right there. So loving that. I did not know. Let me say this. I did not know who he was and you schooled me on it.

He's fucking popular, man. He likes the show. Oh, yeah. Yo, and he's jacked as all kinds of shit too, Luke. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. You would love that, man. All likes the show. Oh, yeah. Yo, and he's jacked as all kinds of shit, too, Luke. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. You would love that, man. All right, Luke, we're back.

I'm fired up. Sir Richard Branson just made it to the, I don't know, Luke, the moon somewhere. Luke, I bet he's still got younger balls than yours. All right? Yeah, probably. He went to, like, what I'm told is the edge of, like, technically space. But remember when that dude went to the edge of the atmosphere and jumped off for Red Bull?

I thought that was cooler. I try to look at us, Luke, as going right up to the edge. We go as close as you can go without getting fired. It's morning combat. Every Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Yes, it certainly is. 11 a.m. right here in the east. We do this three times a week, and we were doing it in Las Vegas,

but we are back. I know, Brian, I mean, what is there to say? We just got to thank not only CBS Sports who sent us out there and set up that nice desk with us and gave us a production staff. I got to thank Showtime and Malka. They had lended a hand as well. And then the biggest round of applause, big one like that, is just to all the MK Donks who came out on Friday.

Some couple came out on Wednesday. But, dude, what a weekend for the brand. And people seemed to like what we did, and we were happy to make people happy. I know you feel the same. My life is brilliant, Luke. Wow. I mean, what a feel. What a feel job by our people on that Friday live show, Luke.

It's a feeling I'll never forget. I've taken a piece of it. I've inserted it inside my body. It's still here vibrating, Luke. I'm ready. Talk about, you know, the road to 100K. We're coming. If you're going to come on in this show, come on, brother.

And these fans, they came out, Luke, and they came on. And did some of their tattoos on their bodies scare me a little? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, yeah. But what great folks, Luke. What absolutely great people.

And I got to get a report because Aaron from Washington reached his hand deep into not like a backpack. It was more like what you would put a body, like a body bag, Luke. And he pulled out Land Yeager. Could you tell the people about the damn Land Yeager? Because you took another man's meat, unsolicited, and you went for it, Luke. You went for it.

Put it right in my mouth. So this dude shows up, very friendly. I had never seen him before, but very friendly. And he was like, I've got sausage for you. And I'm like, well, Vegas is certainly living up to its reputation. But he was actually being friendly. And he works for, I think it may be his own company. They make sausages and other dried meats there.

And Landiager is one, as he described it, that's got, it's like jerky and it's kind of dried out, but yet it has a little bit of like the greasy, almost like pepperoni salami, like quality to it. And he had given me a bag full of them. BC true or false. I housed that bag. Yes, you did Luke. Yes. Yes. You, I mean, they, if they look like like veiny old dong shriveled up but uh you well that didn't quite look like that you didn't quite look like that you went after it and uh hey i would have eaten them i would have eaten them that way regardless but uh listen it was either order room service or go downstairs among the unwashed i would rather just eat my land yeagers yeah i can't wait to welcome your liver to my club, Luke. But shout out to Aaron from Washington and our great fans. All of you.

All right. All of you. Seriously. Look, we had female fans. Who would have thought, right? We do. I couldn't believe it. And they look normal, too.

They weren't like the mutants I've seen at dying fetus shows. No, they were like real deal. Like, I have a great office job and, you know, I pay my taxes on time type. So I was actually pretty impressed. I have to say. All right. we got a lot to get to today as always thumbs up on the video if you're a new subscriber here you heard bc say it we do this three times a week monday wednesday friday 11 a.m in the east um you can follow us on our social channels there if you would like to the morning combat name stays consistent everywhere we're going to get back to fan submissions as long as there are people want to turn them in anyway. And then, dead wrong,

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Today is just UFC 264, so let's get right into it. Topic number one, BC, if I may. Dustin Poirier defeats Conor McGregor via trilogy, although, all right, the trilogy, excuse me, via doctor stoppage, after a gruesome injury. So, BC, I did the, after a gruesome injury. So BC, I did the post-fight show right here. You were on CBS Sports HQ.

Let's imagine that the folks watching today have not seen what you have had to say. Let's start broadly, and then we'll get into the specifics. How big and how important is this win for Dustin Poirier. Not that important. I mean, look, I don't mean to underplay the win and come out like that, but this, Luke, the whole build of this fight, you know, wrong or not, probably more wrong, but that's the way promotion works, was all about Conor.

And, you know, I think the way this fight played out is still largely all about Conor. Dustin becomes a participant in this. He got the upper hand. Two of the three judges gave him 10-8 in the first round, which I thought was a little aggressive, but you showed the point. He was on his way potentially to a victory. He looked great.

He did what he had to do. But, Luke, it's Conor's day again. The guy can't stay out of the headlines here. And I think the way the fallout played out, I think it's much more about him. Okay, tell me why. You know, I see already that not everyone echoes my opinion on this, but I think kind of revived the brand. And I think he did a lot of things where best-case scenario for the promotion

and, you know, money and all that and the global dominance is him to win. Well, that didn't happen. It's probably not going to happen against Poirier. Poirier's proven now three times, right, you know, through three fights, twice in a row that he's the better man, especially in this era. But I think the next best case scenario for UFC was for Conor to look good and not take a real loss, you know, and this is not a real loss in that regard, Luke. And I think he showed a fighting spirit that hadn't been there in a bit.

And even though I'm not here to say that he's as good as he was five years ago, or would you favor him against many of the super elite, to me, and tell me if you disagree, I think Conor put up almost almost a rabid level fight and as his skills diminish if he's willing to fight this desperate he's gonna make great fights Luke and the brand is still very strong I don't think ability wise now that he came back six months later and really put his you know his head down and went after it I don't think he slipped that much uh I think he slipped to win a title, yes. But I think he could still fight almost anybody, Luke.

And I liked seeing that spirit, even though it came wrapped in a very negative package, which I'm sure we're going to get into, the war of words and all that. But I felt like, Luke, short of a win, this is what I needed to see that he still got it. Now, what is that it? You can vary your definitions. But to me, he still got it now what is that it you can you know vary your definitions but to me he's still got it luke am i crazy here i don't think that we are far apart but i think the audience is a little bit further apart from your position from what i can tell which is to say your argument is that okay basically through three fights at least right now we've got a sense that

poirier is better but you saw enough in terms of spark and flow and whatever else to make you think, all right, well, maybe Poirier is a little bit of a bridge too far, but this guy can be in big fights and he can win against talented opponents. That's your basic position, right? Yes, yes. Yeah, I don't think that's wrong. I don't think that's wrong. I think that's right.

I think what we saw from Conor early in the week was and you and i discussed this extensively he was just trying to like i don't know manufacture something out of himself he was reaching for something he was going to like dark places when maybe he didn't need to it was i don't know there was something that wasn't quite there come fight night i felt like he was definitely a lot more ready to go and god look at that that that top of his uh bottom of his shin anyway it's fucking gross but here's the thing for me i think i think you can split the difference which is to say i don't think that your take is in any way wrong i think i would get the same sense i came out of there thinking okay he's lost a step relative to his peak but he's still dangerous enough to give really good guys some trouble and maybe even beat a couple along the way however however I also came out of this thinking like um I got a little bit of

Tyron Woodley versus Vicente Luque vibes out of Conor on this performance where if you look at his numbers they're twice what they were in the second fight now you might say well the second fight was not a great example but like in the second fight BC he won you might say, well, the second fight was not a great example. But in the second fight, BC, he won the first round by most people's scorecards. Conor did. And even then, this like, I'm going to throw leg kicks and teeps, and I'm going to just get into striking exchanges. To me, it's like you can make an argument that that style was a good style to have because he wasn't going to win over the long haul.

Might as well win up front early. Fine. But it was definitely not sustainable, number one. And number two was like an overcorrection. Like he was a little too cold in January, a little too hot for me right here. And then also like with Poirier, like to me, man, like I think we just need to drive it home. The sample size is small for Saturday night. It's just a round and Conor got catastrophically injured at the very end of it. But during that round, it also looked to me like Conor was just a lot,

excuse me, Dustin, was a lot better on the ground, a lot better. He just had a lot of tools. He was purposely going back into guard and keeping Conor there. Conor didn't really have a bad guard game, but he doesn't really have a dynamic one either. And so, you know, I think there are people looking at this, and they might be going a little bit further saying, well Conor can't beat anyone anymore he's totally washed I don't buy that but I do buy that like there's a considerable distance between himself and maybe

the very very best that division has to offer that's where I come down all right all right we're somewhere uh close not but a little bit far away in some of the same spirit of it you mentioned the Woodley comparison I think there's an equal level of desperation that Conor showed in the third fight here with Poirier that Woodley showed against Luque. I just think the difference, Luke, was that Woodley came out of character to a degree to do that. So it was full on just, you know, in your face risk. If it didn't work, it was going to get blown away spectacularly I think Conor fought desperate almost to his to his credit in this case Luke where like again we came into this fight already thinking Poirier is the better fighter and you know we both picked him to win

and certainly I think we exited it with that same feeling but I just I see a Conor who if he can channel this desperation effectively, Luke, I think he can be just short of Dustin, who I think is the best lightweight in the world, not named to be at the moment, and I would love to see him against Charles Oliveira, and we're going in a great direction in that regard. I think anyone short of that, Conor's in the fight against them, and I think he showed that to me. So if that's just your focus from a brand standpoint,

where I was coming from, pay-per-view-wise, all that, I don't think that they're in a horrible spot because hear this out, Luke. You're going to get Dustin versus Oliveira anyway. We know that. But if Conor can turn around quick from this injury, and he says, he posted a video on social media that said he needs six weeks off, and then he can start, you know, full-on training again and rehabbing and coming back. You put him, Lukeke to close the year

atop a pay-per-view against an rda against somebody in that category who you're like okay this is a this is a good fight but but you certainly see an avenue of victory for him and connor passes that test and everyone's like okay okay we're back we're back where we need to be you know dustin potentially with the belt in a fourth fight against Conor. Now it's the biggest fight of the series, Luke. So it's like, is there customer fatigue in the idea of keeping this rivalry going? You know, and Conor, Dustin, and Dana all were in on keeping this rivalry going. At the same time, Luke, there was customer fatigue for Pacquiao and Marquez.

And the fourth one was insane. It's the best one by far of that already great series. These two can still make really bat-shit crazy fights together. And I think if there's anything we learn from the five minutes of action, yeah, Poirier's still better, but they make great theater. Because maybe I'm overrating what McGregor did on his back with the elbows, but I saw a guy, Luke, who was willing to scratch and pull out eyeballs to to do whatever it took even desperate moves submissions like just going after it and I don't know Luke after counting them out all week that's the thing it's like you're you're looking

for spark okay okay fair enough you're looking for spark and I will admit he needed spark relative to January but the reality is this you need more than spark. You need spark plus focus. You need spark plus discipline. You need spark plus some kind of controlling, orienting factor. And so here's actually where I think if you're a Conor McGregor fan, certainly I don't think you're happy about what happened on Saturday. And I don't mean to suggest that, but BC, one thing that's been going through my mind a little bit is, I'm not going to say that the break is good for him. I don't know if that's so much true.

But you could turn this into a positive. Why do I say that? Because when Conor tore his ACL following the Max Holloway fight, a fight where he won despite tearing his ACL in the middle of it, A, he got through the rehab very quickly. But B, the rehab was really good about him. When you have to rebuild your body you kind of take things slowly and uh you know you can you can put as much effort as you want into it but it's a slow process to get back to where you are what i mean to say is as he

rebuilds back to full uh mobility full function on that leg and the rest of his body and everything else all the movements he needs to do it's a chance to like I don't know almost rebuild the game not not from scratch but but to just refocus on doing the little details making part of the journey back one about covering all your bases crossing your t's and dotting your i's so that by the time he gets back whoever it ends up being against you've had this reset moment I think that's the thing I would look for if I was a Conor McGregor fan before we move on to second questions in this particular topic though we can't lose sight give me a grade of Dustin Poirier's performance because we're all talking about Conor hello the other guy

won and the other guy did a pretty good job of it along the way what is your take on what he did to get his hand raised on Saturday that's the thing Luke the reason why there's not a huge take on what he did to get his hand raised on Saturday? That's the thing, Luke. The reason why there's not a huge take on it is because he just kept doing what he does, which is fight great and fight at the absolute pinnacle elite level and continue to carve out more reasons why he's already an all-time great and has a stupid great resume. But yeah, in the fight, Luke, he controlled when it went to the ground. You know, he said afterwards that he almost played himself because he let McGregor put in the guillotine, but didn't think he was going to put it in that deep and he was using it for you know positional reasons and he almost got caught there but boy did he fight out of that easily

take over the top position and then land enough significant blows where again he got 10-8 on two of the three scorecards so Luke he showed me everything I needed to see but it's like why don't keep going back to Connor here Luke because I think there's more interesting you know angles out of that like Luke I don't know if this tell me do you think this rivalry is done from the standpoint of ever believing Conor can beat Poirier I think MMA is crazy enough that I take seriously McGregor's capacity to beat Poirier I just think that if Poirier is on and he's fighting relatively smart, I don't, no, I don't think Conor could beat him. I feel like, like Conor's not going to beat people anymore,

Luke, like did in the first chapter of his career. He's going to have to be in fights every time out. So that's more of what I mean, like commercially, nothing's going in the wrong direction despite people's dislike of him, which we can get into because it's a big fallout of this, Luke. But in terms of bringing the numbers and bringing the action inside the fights I think

that's the way he's going to have to win and and he may have more of a Oscar de la Hoya second half of his career where he loses more than he wins against the very best but he's going to keep taking on those very best and make the fights happen so sorry to keep stealing the narrative from you no that's okay it's okay I just want to say i just want to make sure we give dustin his due because this is going to be predominantly about mcgregor which everyone understands he was the one who lost and got injured so there's going to be a little bit more to it the only thing i want to say about dustin party abc and i'll move to the second part of this question the only thing i just want to get out there is you're right like he didn't do anything like stupendous in that way but you used a word

when i saw you right after the fights that I thought was really great it was like a tricky ground ball that was hit to shortstop but he fielded it perfectly he handled exactly all the little bumps the way he was supposed to and then fired it off to first base and got the out whatever the reason may be at the end so I just thought to me I was like a veteran performance and also it deserves to be noted on the ground he was just much better than Conor and more to the point dude I went back and I re-watched this fight a couple of times. Dude, I said this on the post-fight show, but I was doing it off of memory recall, having a subsequent viewing really told me how true this was. Conor initiated the takedown

because he was getting lit up. He was getting lit up at long range by Poirier. Poirier was getting off and his left hand was literally pushing Conor back with power and Conor forced the clinch and it was from the clinch that he threw a knee and then from the knee that's when Poirier got the takedown so that's a very smart strategy by Poirier playing it long forcing Conor to have contact why do I bring this up Conor was landing on him a shitload everyone knows knows those leg kicks, maybe too many of them, but they were landing and I'm sure that they fucking hurt. They were a lot. Plus some of his punches were getting through too.

Conor's boxing looked pretty smooth for the most part early on. But in the end, he's the one that got pushed back. In the end, he's the one that initiated the clinch. And in the end, he was the one that got taken down and pounded out on top of it. It's like if you're a Conor McGregor fan, show me the place where he was clearly better than dustin on the feet kickboxing range okay fine kickboxing range that's it that's it so strong performance by by the diamond here okay to be fair because look we were we were pretty damn critical of mcgregor coming into this fight and

i think uh you can be heavily critical afterwards by his behavior no question but to close on the on the ability there do you want to take into stock though when he may have hurt that ankle initially and if it happened on the kick that that Poirier block with his elbow that although you can certainly make the case that Conor initiated the the standing clinch to get away from the punches that were landing and that's's true. I wonder how, you know, if he knew in that moment there that the balance was compromised and that if that was the beginning of what became a series of desperation moves. Again, that I did praise because I like the spirit of the desperation. But do you think maybe you're overlooking the impact it may have had

on the planting and that's why he took it there? Meaning overall, Luke, that it's hard to score much from the five minutes beyond just saying okay wild batshit round poirier still better but are are you missing something on one on the timing of the injury there possible certainly possible i mean here's the thing though connor whatever else you want to say about him this is just true at this point when he loses he makes a lot of excuses and you could say i'm not one of these guys that's like against the idea that fighters can't make excuses yo if your of these guys that's like against the idea that fighters can't make excuses yo if your leg is broken that's a pretty good fucking reason why you can't fight

up to normal or if your hand is broken or or something right if you're seeing double like those to me those are explanations just as much as they are excuses but connor does make a lot of excuses when he loses some of them might be good some of them might be bad his coach is saying that maybe he had a pre-existing injury a little bit ahead of time. I've seen a lot of Zapruder film, like, oh, it was from the elbow. Oh, it was John Wayne Parr had a totally separate video saying it came from something else. So, yes, obviously you have to have some kind of understanding that a fourth fight could be unique in many respects. But Conor himself hasn't said anything other than he thought he was winning the whole time until it went south.

That tells me that it probably didn't have much of a role because if Conor's got an excuse to tell you, he's going to tell you. And I just didn't see one. Well, he's also insane right now, Luke. So can we transition right to that? Because you know what? We should be talking. The greatest thing we can say about Poirier, and yeah, ability-wise, he did what he had to do, dude. He was better on the feet better on the ground but really the best reaction Poirier had was handling all the negativity

and the bullshit which Luke only increased like trifold after the fight when McGregor's sitting on his butt with his back to the cage and now there's new footage Luke I don't know if you've seen this of him you know pointing at Dustin's wife and saying uh you know that essentially Luke was he kind of saying like I'm going to come into your house and in in uh and kill you i mean like there was something to that let me ask you let me ask you this way between the loss the injury not so much but between the loss and how he handled the loss where even ufc president dana white although of course he's told other people to put their wives on leashes i don't know exactly from what point he makes the claim to make. But okay, neither here nor there.

Where Conor just literally openly attacked Joe Lee Porter, all the stuff he said, I'm going to kill you, blah, blah, blah. Did he damage his brand? His brain? Or his brand? Or his brand. Oh, okay. I was like, well, look, if you want to go there,

we could get into this, but no, uh, look, so here's the deal. It, it, it damages certainly the, the, the, uh, the smell factor and to a degree, you know what I mean? In terms of like, like the hero side of it that, that, uh, you know, and it brings him darker hardcore into the villain side. And I do understand that some people from watching that are like, oh, he's not good. I'm not going to buy his fights anymore. But Luke, he could also be entering the second half of Mike Tyson's pay-per-view career, where I'm not saying Conor completely goes off the rails and becomes like a disqualified machine where he starts biting people's ears. I don't mean that extreme. But Luke, I just mean a rabid

final 15 minutes of Scarface type of, you know, run to end where Conor's still going to be in big pay-per-views. And again, he'll probably lose more than he wins in the long run against the big names, but I think he can almost maintain this sort of rabid craziness and be very marketable with it. I'm not saying it's healthy. I'm not saying his behavior is reputable. It went very far. But again, let's circle back to Poirier. Luke, seriously, his handling of that across the board

was like a 100 out of 100. I mean, it was absolute perfection. UFC's got to be so grateful that Poirier is the professional that he is. Because I'm with you. It's like, even if Conor is saying this horrendous shit, number one, in combat sports, that's a good thing, sort of. I mean, not a good thing that people are saying it or that it's having an impact on the world. But, like, if you just look at the way tickets get sold in this business, that's a big reason. So I understand it.

Also, BC, you know, we need a fresh perspective. Because I saw, shouts to Stefan Kesting. He's this Canadian jiu-jitsu black belt who does all these instructionals and has been doing for many many years he was so disgusted by it i saw on instagram he's like i'll never buy another conor berger pay-per-view and he's a sort of a principled guy in that way i could understand the way he feels you and i are so fucking numbed out to people saying awful and disparaging shit to each other that i'll be honest with you i'm not even doing a bit bc i barely even noticed i barely even noticed i saw people bringing it up being like how could he do that how could he be that way and i was like oh yeah he said awful shit i

totally forgot i didn't even register with me okay so there's that side of it which is so true we are so ridiculously desensitized also lu, Luke, from my factory town upbringing, if you want to put a little more fuel in that fire. But here's the deal, though, Luke. I think I'm the only one saying this. Like, I don't need it to go to the, like, was Connor just, I mean, he was an absolute dirt hole in every aspect, Luke, okay?

Every single aspect. Like, no question about it. But yeah, I have no feeling like this needs to stop because this is the fight game. We really can't lipstick on the pig. I don't want to lipstick on the pig. Sometimes I like that boxing and MMA people can get away with saying

absurd things that you can never say in mainstream sports. It's part of the sauce, man. It's part of why we got into it. Do I think Conor's batshit crazy and way out of line yes but luke i'm almost like you know that jack nicholson meme like yeah yeah let's see what we can do let's make some fun fights you know let's let this rabid animal loose on the on the

trash heap um yeah does that make me an awful person luke a little like fighting this way i kind of like fighting this way i don't think fighting needs to be gentlemanly. I don't think it ever was. Right, Luke? Okay, no, no. I'm with you that there's a lot of pearl clutching about this. I mean, listen, I think if a person like Stefan Kesting saw this and they were just like,

I don't want to give my money to people like this, I totally understand that. It's just, you know, here's a little heads up. I want classy cage fighters. Get the frick out of here, Luke. Nah, I can understand why he would be, I could understand what he would feel the way that he would feel but i'm with you i think a lot of these guys are a lot more like connor than people seem to realize to you know this is what makes the fight game go around it's not new it never will be new

there's certainly been a lot worse and three bc like we need villains we need them yeah okay that's fine but that doesn't mean you and i have to actively cheerlead it we can we can sort of take a role of dispassionate observation rather than endorsement uh even though we can understand the role that it plays it definitely went too far and i and you and i reacted to it in the connor and habib build and afterwards because my fear luke was that you're you have the potential of inciting populations of people. I mean, I was in the building at 229 when that riot broke out and obviously it did get cleaned up fast, but it could have been much worse. So I feel when it's going that level of far,

that's when I'm like, okay, let's pull it back. But I'm never going to be like, you know, little kids should not watch this because they're like, I mean, look, it's an action. it's entertainment and in encounters of character and a villain and uh you know if you're letting your kids watch elite level cage fighting anyway luke anyway we should have conversation yeah but hold on i will say this i do think his brand is changing a little bit before it was i'm gonna say outrageous disparaging things he's saying outrageous, disparaging things for a while. But before he was winning and before BC, and I think you could pick up on this too, it was a lot funnier before.

Now it's just, it's not playful at all. Now it's just like hateful and angry. So whether his brand is damaged or not, I don't know. But I can say, BC, I do feel a bit of a shift from something light-hearted to something dark-hearted and it started if you remember the Eddie Alvarez fight week was the first time the dark side oh well okay let me take that back you can always go back to uh you know either Nate fights or obviously the the how he handled some of the Jose Aldo Favela stuff and all that Luke. I'm not trying to make that comparison the same way,

but I feel like the dark turn for Anakin here, that old bitch Anakin, started in the Alvarez fight week, and then he still had whatever was left in the fun side of it, Luke. He spilled that out against Mayweather, even though there was also some awful comments made by both as well mixed in. But, yeah, it's no longer fun, Luke. But, you know, people that are acts for a really long time, like Madonna or David Bowie, they change skin often, Luke, okay? This is just another, I mean, it's a shitty persona, but this is just another persona

on a complicated character in this entertainment game. I mean, I don't mean to pull the humanity out of it by looking at it like that, but that's what it is, Luke. No, I think that's a fair and sober take. Alright, so let me ask you about this part, the fourth fight between them. BC, I'm very much against it in the way in which it was

presented, right? So the way I realize that this could all change. Everyone's just talking on Saturday night, you know, when the rubber meets the road, it ends up being usually a little bit different. But here's where I come down on this. You had the fight in January,

you lost handily. You had this one, there was an accident. I'm not against there being a fourth fight at all. But at this point, the win and the loss does count on the record, whether or not you think it should or shouldn't, it does.ier moves on he deserves to fight for the title and he will that's parts great but what Dana White is saying is that when Conor comes back around they're gonna give

him another shot at Dustin here is my belief BC and tell me why I'm wrong or maybe you disagree but whatever well it's not I'm okay with that right okay i'm okay with that all right i'm okay with a fourth fight happening i'm even okay with a fourth fight happening if connor gets a win against one other person but you gotta get a win against somebody else he cannot go back in there especially if poirier wins the title and gift connor a fucking title shot off of this I don't want to see that at all I'm not advocating for that but I would say Luke I don't even think that's as bad as 46 year old Dan Henderson getting a title shot or I was against that too getting a light heavyweight title shot I mean there's been all I'm not trying to compare sores and say well it's not as bad as the others

but I get it the better case scenario is a comeback win. I think that the brand, the brand of Conor McGregor could really use that. It's going to be, it would be interesting theater too, from, from what we're talking about on the evolution of his brand, you know, would he try to baby face it up for a comeback fighter? Is he just this rabid animal and that's what it's going to be. And, and that's what gets him fired up. And that's the entertainment value. That might be too, but look, the way that this is going to play out is we're going to get Charles Oliveira and Dustin Poirier, and it's going to be fantastic. But if Poirier wins or loses, Luke, his next fight after that's going to be Conor. And that's just how the business works.

And, again, there's everything from customer fatigue to how could Conor keep getting this. Well, you know, membership in this 1% club does have its privileges. And again, Luke, even if Poirier goes out there and finishes him again, it'll sell big and the fight will be fun as shit, right? Are you lost on the potential if this rivalry has to keep going, that it could be a couple more chapters and it could be wild shit, Luke? Because Poirier is going to get old too.

I'm okay with the rivalry continuing and these guys finding each other more than normal if circumstances play out in a way that justifies it, right? Okay, here's a couple scenarios. Let's say Poirier loses to Oliveira. Then you could probably do a rematch or a fourth fight, whatever you want to call it at that point, right away. Fine. If Poirier wins against Olivera, then I think you need to see Conor maybe against an RDA or a Tony Ferguson

or something like that. Great matchmaking right there, Luke. If Conor looks the way that you think he looked before everything went awry, then he should win that one and then you can do it. But what if he loses to Tony or RDA? You're going to just now manufacture here's my point there's two ways to look at saturday one is that it's unfinished business that's the one that everyone is defaulting to fine i understand

that there's another way to look at it though which is that they had their moment to intersect and they're on two different paths and we keep trying to force them back together and i don't know if we need to at this point they could actually be going in very different directions or at least have a clear separation between them in terms of what their levels are and that you're fucking with the matchmaking a little bit to justify a rivalry that may not even be there anymore you're fucking with it a lot luke i mean you know we didn't like uh we didn't like maz vidal usman Yeah, this is worse than that. But I mean, look, that's what history tells you what a giant brand

gets in somebody that they can sell as close enough, which they certainly can still sell that. So you mentioned, so look, we know where Dustin's going next, rightfully of the title. Luke, I'm telling you straight up, I'm actively cheering for Dustin to win that. Not to get McGregor again for the title i luke i'm telling you straight up i'll actively cheering for dustin to win that not not to get mcgregor again for the title because i i cannot i cannot

sit here and and and feel good at night if dustin poirier somehow retires never having won that full championship luke when he's when he firmly established that he's the best lightweight in the world but uh uh he's gonna get that shot next you mentioned You mentioned Ferguson or RDA as good counter opponents. Keep him the heck away from Gaethje if you're UFC, because that would end badly. But I think there are matchups here that he can and will win when he has the striking advantage, Luke. Do you like anyone else in that spot?

Are we giving UFC too much credit? Could they go super soft next? I mean, how soft would be, short of bringing Diego Sanchez back, how soft would be insulting to you? Outside the top 10. Okay. Outside the top 10.

I mean, don't you agree he's a top 10 fighter? I think he's a top 10 fighter. Yes, I agree. I mean, he might even be top three, top five. I don't know but he's definitely top 10 as far as I can tell so give him someone in that space all right there are other fights on the card BC let's talk about him here Gilbert Burns of course topic number two emerged the victor over Stephen Wonderboy Thompson here's my question to you BC in winning

did Gilbert Burns show you anything new or did he remind you of what you already knew that's an interesting question um neither yet i'm also like really happy with the win in ways that the people that were booing and the people that were upset online and even dana white you know i get that they, they were upset for the lack of entertainment, but it just, it just confirmed for me what I already knew that this guy's smart. And Luke, he was in a fight in which it's really hard to look good against Stephen Thompson when he's at that level. And he proved that he's still at that level, by the way, in this performance, even though he lost in, in, you know, lost to a better adjustment, but this was a hell of a

gamble, but a great calculated gamble in that third round by uh Gilbert to take the fight to the ground and hope he could do enough with the ground and pound for that final 90 seconds or so to sway the judges in his favor and he did in the end and it wasn't exciting in that regard it was exciting for me from the standpoint of seeing if he could pull it off and and you know knowing what was at stake so Luke I have zero problem with the lack of entertainment because I look at again him shooting there in the third I thought it would be an easier path when he was already losing in that that third round and the fight was up for grabs it would have been an easier path to just think the quickest I can come for a home run is to is to fight him on the feet and I thought

that's what he was going to do and get desperate. But no, Lou, he stuck to his guns. And that's an interesting gamble, man. Yeah, it is. You know, I would say, actually, I did think I saw some new things in there. I had known that he could fight a well-rounded, disciplined game. I knew that. But to do it with the stakes this way against an opponent this tricky, I mean, that's the key to Wonderboy

Thompson it's one thing to get anything to work against him and b it's hard to do that repeatedly over rounds in a disciplined coordinated way to make it count I mean think about how Woodley fought him Woodley had these bursts where something would happen but a lot of time wasn't shit happening at all in those fights with with uh with a guy like Doreno yeah okay a couple moments of inactivity but in general he was kind of all over Wonderboy sticking to his game plan it worked he went back to it he had success he did it in multiple phases it wasn't just the ground although that was a big part of it obviously if not the biggest part but there were other parts of the of the effort as well to me man this is a guy who everything we've seen up to this point in terms of becoming a

well-rounded MMA fighter this to me took it to like I don't have a new level exactly but it was really a refresher that he's not even at what age is he 34 I think he's not too young uh even at 34 man he's still skill building I didn't see anything that told me I would expect a different Kamaru Usman fight and I think that's where he comes up short but to take a challenge and puzzle as tricky as Wonderboy and to diffuse the bomb very carefully not in sort of like fireworks spectacular ways although they had a couple of moments of exchanging but to coordinatedly calmly just execute in the way that he did man he made it look way, way, way simpler a task

than it actually was. Extremely impressive. Yeah, I'm happy to hear you put the respect on his name and see it that way, because you could easily see it the other way as if it was some penalty to strategically put a more boring style. I know it's not going to win you fans,

but this wasn't about winning fans. This was about winning this fight, which he did. Luke, I kind of like his chances somehow even better against usman even though it's not because of this performance i just mean i feel like he had a moment early against usman and then you know the moment got a little bit too big for him and he was flat the rest of the way and then usman to his advantage man when he founded an area of advantage he pounded him out and got rid of him but uh I kind of would like his chances a second time just from knowing that that wasn't his best performance yeah I actually agree with you um I I would say that like this is one of

those cases where you know it wouldn't have been disaster if he had lost to Kumaru and then Wonder Boy but it would have been like oh he was just good for a moment he had a moment where he was able to climb the ranks and get a title shot. But, you know, he regressed back to the normal mean. Well, it turns out, no, he didn't. It turns out that the reason he got that shot was certainly no fluke, no impressive one single run. That guy can do it again.

I actually agree with you too, BC. I think he can do better against Kamaru. I guess what I'm saying is I didn't see anything, and, you know, they're wildly different opponents, too, BC, I think he can do better against Kamaru. I guess what I'm saying is I didn't see anything, and they're wildly different opponents, but I don't know that I saw anything in this fight that told me he could beat Kamaru, but do better? Yeah, I believe that a guy this dedicated to his craft and this good could give Kamaru Usman a much tougher fight

the second time around. Sure, absolutely. If you're Team Wonderboy, Luke, and obviously this loss does a lot of damage to his potential hopes of ever getting back to this point, but what would you have changed if you were Team Wonderboy there? I mean, he didn't do great on the ground,

but he also wasn't disastrous and put himself in spot three could be close to being finished at all. You know, getting put on the ground by Doreno is different than almost any other UFC fighter in that division. Yeah, it is different in the division. I mean, it's not to say that Jorge Masvidal is not a threat to submit you because he is,

but they're not threats like him, dude. I mean, I don't know how to explain it. You know, like if you've ever rolled with like a really high level guy, dude, one wrong move and it's like the Jenga piece and the whole shit comes down. And so what it ends up being is that a guy like Wonderboy, who's never going to match the skill of Burns anyway, but on top of that, what ends up happening is it ends up making you do less because you're afraid, whatever direction I go, I'm going to leave an opening that I don't know about that he does, and that's going to facilitate the end. And so you saw a little bit of a reserved response from Wonderboy.

But that's a credit to Gilbert, man. I wouldn't really hammer the Wonderboy team for that. I would just say it's an unfortunate circumstance for them that they got caught in a scenario like that. But credit to Gilbert Burns for making opponents think so much that it's paralysis by analysis. Yeah, very fair, Luke. All right, BC, let's get to this one.

We did not talk about this on Saturday night, but I'm really curious to hear what you have to say. Greg Hardy was not only stopped via strikes, he was stopped via strikes in the first round against Taito Iwasa. And I tweeted this out, and viral is not the strong word, but people noticed it. BC, Greg Hardy no longer holds a win over an existing member of the UFC heavyweight roster. He has four wins and I think just as many, if not more, losses. Okay, someone asked me, BC, so what has Greg Hardy proven so far in the UFC?

And my answer is, if all of your wins are over the guys who couldn't make it, then you can say you're better than the guys who can't sustain a UFC career. So he's better than that. But he didn't appear to be a whole lot better than that. And he's still on these main card placements. BC, is it time for the Greg Hardy UFC experiment to come to an end? Yeah, but not, you know, let's cut the guy or anything like that. I just mean you can't justify, well, I don't know, maybe you can

because this fight was pretty damn exciting and may have, you know, really pushed another guy into Ivasa to a level of potential stardom I wasn't even looking at. But specific to Hardy, it's a bad loss because he talked huge game coming in. I mean, he spent more time in that media day calling out derrick lewis than he did you know uh to evasa so it's like here's a guy who was really putting it out there that you know i'm for real and i'm this great person and that's i know it's another sort of philosophical debate there luke on how he uh represents himself it

kind of you know touched your buttons a little i. I understand why. But this, he's an average fighter, you know? Like, could he get better? Yeah, he's only 32. But he needed this win. He called for this fight, and he lost it disastrously. So you can't justify putting him in these, you know, co-main events or the consistently high placement on the pay-per-view card. At least I don't think you can anymore because I don't think, you know,

like he hasn't been, this is the first time, what, that we've really seen him like knock cold. So I know it gave a certain amount of like, you know, pleasure to people that were looking for that, but I don't think they keep coming back just looking for that. No, I mean, here's the thing though. Like what would be the reason why you would want to put him on a main card? Oh, heavyweights that will bang are reliable for what the UFC's purposes are when they're selling something to you.

For example, like on the Fox cards, you could almost always guarantee, not always, but routinely guarantee they were going to have like Pat Barry versus LeVar Johnson. You know what I mean? Like just two heavyweight guys out there who are going to absolutely blow each other's brains out. It's reliable for that. That's fine. Look, if he's good enough to win, to maintain being kept on the roster, and you want to put him in fights like that

to pad out a roster or a fight card itself, and let's put the right fights in the right parts of the card, you know, to get the most out of the audience, yeah, I think fine. But, like, I'm pretty comfortable in saying unless something can really change for him going forward this is pretty much who he is this is his level and it's it's okay it's not great but it doesn't deserve any other kind of special consideration he is to me a UFC heavyweight and not much more that's about what he rates so if the UFC wants to use him

like that that's fine but I think from this show on you know whatever I mean Greg Hardy's got a bit of a bigger name I suppose to some but to me it's like he's not even like bad and he's not necessarily boring but he's not good either he's just just there, and I'm okay with that, but we should acknowledge that's all that there is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we should. And can we talk about Tui Vassa now, Luke? Yes. I mean, this felt like he made a big leap in the public consciousness.

Like, people already knew about Shoei's, and I know the timing is great because you and I did one of those filthy, disgusting things during Friday's MK show. So, you know, we should not throw any rocks at anybody's glass house. Okay, but his, dude, our shoeys are gross. His fucking shoeys are those people swimming in the sewers in Manhattan. They're just, it's disgusting. But here's the deal.

You put him on a Connor card and he did this. And he knocked out Greg Hardy, who's the name that people were looking and hoping. Dude, he might become a folk hero off of this. Did you get that vibe? Like, this was like the fans were going nuts for this, Luke. Yeah, I did get that vibe. He had an exciting win. He actually was kind of funny in the post-fight comments.

Like, you know, he said he wanted to bang. Bruv, I'm not the one. Find another bloke. I thought that was really good the shoe he was incredible you're right on the connor card itself i've been kind of waiting for tai to evasa to become you know the casual fans favorite kind of show up and bang win or lose type you know um but maybe he can be more than that we'll see because he wants to go to aka and train. But I got to tell you, this was a huge weekend for Taito Iwasa. Big. He was funny on the pre-fight stuff, and he was funny afterwards.

Huge win. Big visibility. Charismatic personality. Party trick. He's got a party trick. I mean, that's worth something. I could see him. He's almost like a cowboy like thing cowboy serrani

type thing with him that i could see right the connection long term where the fans love and win or lose i'm trying to make a comparison to luke have we had a unapologetic heavyweight gunslinger on this level in the past that that's like knockout or nothing and is and that's the way i fight and that's that's who i am and, and that got this type of potential for fandom? I'm trying to think. Was Pat Berry like that? It's just that the run didn't last very long. No, it didn't last enough to get real attention.

That's such a perfect character to have, right? Like the playful, I don't care, all or nothing heavyweight slugger, and it's good to see one of those rise and dude he's hilarious I mean I don't like like this this was the kind of win that that we're going to find out how good he really is now Luke I think he's got three in a row and he's going to step up to now the rank level but uh and I'm not even sure Luke where that's going to go whether in terms of wins or losses but uh they do have something else special here it seems it does they do and I, hopefully we can get shows back in Australia

so he can build his brand further there. But I agree with you. He's reliably fun. I think when he's tried to go up to the next level, it's been a bit of a, you know, the JDS fight was a little bit of a, you know, he's more fun against the Greg Hardys of the world. I'll put it that way. It's going to limit his overall ceiling.

But if you add in those personality factors that you're talking about, he can become so much more. So, great win by him. It's just that with Greg Hardy, it's like, it is what it is, man. All right. Topic number four, BC. Sean O'Malley. Looked phenomenal on Saturday.

But he was supposed to look phenomenal because he had an opponent coming in on very last-minute notice. I don't have much to say about that. Sugar Sean looked pretty good. Chris Moutinho, incredibly durable, blah, blah, blah. Where are you, though, on Herb Dean's stoppage of it with roughly 30 seconds left in the third round? 100% agree with it.

And it's weird because my argument for it is almost like well look at the circumstances of the fight this kid had nothing left to gain like I think Moutinho gained exactly what he came there to do show that he's that he's stupid hungry and durable to hope to get another fight or another you know or a real contract or something like he passed that like he went you know mainlined it to Dana's heart. And, uh, and so from that regard, I'm like, oh God, that was a mercy stoppage. I mean, it could have been stopped so much earlier in that regard, but the, in reality though, referees, you know, are not supposed to think in that terms. Look at, you know, Richard Steele in, in the, the Julio Cesar Chavez, uh, Meldrick Taylor fight,

you know, he stopped that with what, like three or five seconds left, where in theory, like, man, if he just let that go the distance, we would have found out who won. Taylor, you know, had enough rounds, he would have won. Well, it's like, I'm not supposed to keep that in my mind. I see a fighter who's taken too much punishment. I need to save him. So in that regard, absolutely, Luke, this could have been stopped

well earlier when you saw it. Now, look, I love the Fight Forever people that are like, you know, Moutinho was breaking him down, man. He had him on the verge of gassing him out, you know. No, dude, he had the verge of, like, needing, you know, full facial surgery and, you know, and all that. But he came there to be a crash test dummy, Luke, and he played that role big time.

I mean, insane, insane, Luke Luke how much he was willing to take yeah I have no problem with the stoppage at all and I wonder BC if you watch boxing this stoppage makes a lot more sense it looked like boxing stoppages where when someone's getting tuned up and there's a big disadvantage the referees don't let it go for four or five rounds if you if it goes a few rounds and there's a big skill difference and again you know credit to Moutinho insanely tough and absolutely committed to whatever he needed to do to win but on the skills department he had like what did he have he had no we had no skill really to win and and you had it gone you know uh two and a half rounds more than that

almost 14 plus minutes. And he had shown no real offense. He had no meaningful offense, really, to account for. He was taking unbelievable amounts of damage. And referee Herb Dean saw enough. I mean, you have to understand a couple of things. Folks are being like, oh, he, you know, he deserved the extra 30 seconds for his own dignity. It wouldn't have changed anything related to that.

It's just a total fantasy, number one. Number two, folks, you do not want, forget this fight for just a second, you do not want a rule written down in Nevada's bylaws that states a referee can use time and around to allow a fight to continue longer, even if someone is taking punishment that they no longer are comfortable seeing. Again, you could say in this case, that doesn't solve that problem, but you would agree that a rule generally, you should not allow for that. Because if you do, someone's going to get really fucking hurt or killed. Referees are not arbiters of moral victories. That is not what they are there to do. They are there to protect people who they believe are getting hurt to the point

where they want to intervene. That's their their only role and whether that happens after nine seconds left and or nine seconds expired in a fight or when there's only nine seconds left it doesn't matter the rule should be what the rule is you change that rule and people are going to get fucking killed and then the last thing i would say about this bc about it all is like you know i don't understand what these bloodthirsty folks are after you wanted him to take 30 more seconds of damage. Would that have changed his life forever, the 30 seconds? No. I'm with BC.

Could have been stopped a lot earlier. But the idea that this kid got saved 30 seconds of extra damage, which, by the way, could have been a knockout damage. We don't know. But he got saved from that. Herb Dean did him a favor. He did him a favor. If you allow referees to start giving fans what they want to see for nice tidy narratives you get what you get when you had Shevchenko versus Kachwera and Mario Yamasaki explicitly

saying I let her go out on her shield like a warrior well she also took a fucking epic damage and he was removed from his job as a consequence. You cannot play games like that ever. Luke, Sean O'Malley's future, he called out a large spectrum of names. What's the right matchmaking? Because it is time to step up in a fairly big way. So how high? How high do we go here? With the next fight?

Yeah. Yeah, Luke. Yeah, the next freaking fight. I think... I think... He called out... I think Dominic Cruz would be an interesting fight. Hell yeah.

He said Garbrandt hadn't fought since 2012. I don't know about the Garbrandt fight. He just lost to Rob Font. I don't know about that one. Dillashaw and what you call it, Sanhagen, have their own thing. Yeah, I like that Cruz fight. What about you? That is a great pick.

I hadn't... I wasn't looking... I wasn't zeroing in on that one, but I like that cruise fight what about you that is a great pick i i hadn't uh i wasn't looking i wasn't zeroing in on that one but i like that one a lot and i just you just reminded me that san hagen dillashaw is coming soon and that's going to be freaking fantastic look do you remember when i asked him about that that sean o'malley said that was a good question i was like oh yeah it is sean o'malley you got like a giant erection and you were loving it. You were loving it. And then you asked to touch it. See, they don't always send me to hell. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Last but not least, let's go to topic number five, BC. Give me another fight we've not talked about on this UFC 264 card. Give me somebody, something, somewhere. What stood out to you and why? Well, there's a picture of jessica i there luke um jessica eyes third eye blind uh was was something luke and that was a hard-fought battle there with

jennifer maya and i we had both liked maya coming in and she she proved what she had approved from the standpoint of taking you know another uh pretty big step back in the title hunt but uh man luke that that's some deep there's some that's a that's a cave luke that opened up you know you know any local spelunkers luke um no that was gnarly yeah it was bad by the way she's not at extreme couture anymore i'm not even sure she's with any formal team i think she's got a few people training her, but she left that gym, as I understand it. So she did not... I mean, it was a tough fight no matter what,

but I don't know. She just did not have what she needed to get ahead. I'll put it that way. True or false? True, true. And that's four out of five defeats now for Ai, including the uh the title knockout loss so it's a it's a tough turn because she's been competitive in a lot of these but

the numbers don't lie luke they don't um for me i'll go with the one we had talked about during the week leading up which was uh ryan hall and ilia toporia man that was a uh that was ryan hall apparently broke his hand he put out a message on social media he broke his hand on the very first punch he landed which i'm sure is going to hobble things a little bit for him um you know to me when he went back to the well of those roles a little too many times because the more you do them the more someone can time them or get a sense of where they can intervene and you saw that to pour you um think, stopping the headlock and then using that to come across his body this way with his right hand and just absolutely put a guy like Ryan Hall's lights out.

People were asking me, like, oh, did Ryan Hall get figured out? I'm like, well, I mean, people have always kind of known what maybe you needed to do to beat him, but they didn't really have the ability to pull it off. I'm sure that the way Tepuria did this will give some people some advantages next time, but Ryan's a knuckleballer, man. He's going to be, listen, there's going to be some nights where the knuckleballer goes out there and is going to get shelled, but there's also going to be nights where he goes

out there and just pitches a fucking shutout. That wasn't the night on Saturday. Tepuria's a very tough guy, but I'm still convinced, BC, I wonder where you are on this. I think Ryan Hall is still going to be tricky for the right kind of opponent. Oh, he's going to be tricky until the day he retires. There's no question about it. The knuckleballer comparison is an apt one.

It was also that, look, we didn't have a real understanding of Ryan Hall's ceiling in any way. He hadn't fought in two years. He fought such long gaps between fights that I don't think this told us, you know, it told us a lot more about Tupuri, I thought, because he came in there

with a bigger reputation and then found a path to victory and did it spectacularly and, you know, talked with such confidence before and after the fight about the dangers of that matchup. But, you know, it wasn't that the knuckleballer was going to be perfect forever, Luke. We all knew that matchup. But, you know, it wasn't that the knuckleballer was going to be perfect forever, Luke.

We all knew that. Okay. So that is it for the five topics, BC. Well, hold on. Hold on. I don't want to. What about Irene Aldana's finish, Luke? Holy crap, bro.

What do you want to say about it? It was impressive. And that's a division, you a division very much void of big names and credible challenges to Amanda Nunes' title. And I know that Aldana missed weight, and I know that she's coming off a loss to Holly Holm that was a let's check where she's at, so to speak, type of fight. But she already had plus power for not just this weight class,

but it seems the entire women's game, Luke. But, man, this was impressive given that she came in overweight. She had a lot to potentially lose here, and she dominated this fight. I mean, it was a little bit of a wake-up call, Luke. It was a wake because I thought Kunitskaya was right at that level of maybe being on the verge of a title shot herself. So this was huge. Yeah, I mean, 135 needs real contenders.

I don't know if this was the fight to get her a title shot. Obviously, Peña is going to be there first. But someone was asking me, what's a good fight for Aldana? How about Aldana versus Duran Dami? I mean, that would be a hell of a scrap. Yes. And if Aldana can win that, you've got to like her chances, not to necessarily become the champion, but she would earn a title shot at that point.

Dude, I thought she looked awesome everywhere. Her jab was good. Her footwork was good. Her clinch breaking. Kuniskaya had no response for the clinch breaking. And I'm told, here's my view on the missing weight. You can't be missing weight by three and a half pounds. You just can't be.

I'm told that she had a really tough bout with COVID. Doesn't have it now, but it kind of fucked her up a little bit. And so the weight cut was impacted by her ability to get over those things. Hopefully over time that goes away. Because I'll just say this, BC, that was a solid win. Super solid win. Her ground and pound was sniper-ish. And her finishing ability was just dialed in from the word go.

But you can't be missing weight by three and a half pounds. You can't. And if you've got some issue that is going to you know make this a consistent problem you know i don't want to say you've got to go to 145 but you got to figure something else out because as good as that win was and as much praise as we want to give her and whatever sickness you may have had you can't come in three and a half pounds over consistently you cannot do that look do you think the no you're right you're right you're. Do you think the promotion is ever in a spot where they look at this and they go, okay, if we...

And it doesn't have to be specific to Aldana, but if we know how good she is, but if we put her in there with a GDR, she's probably going to lose. She just lost a home. We want a fresh new opponent for Amanda, so let's just send her right to her. I don't think they would be above doing that for the sake of

just... A fresh challenge? Yeah. Yeah, that's probably true. I mean, they're going to grade her on a curve. I'm just saying for professionalism reasons, everyone's got difficult circumstances they've got to get over. Fair enough.

But, bro, your opponent is entitled to fight someone of a similar weight. You know what I mean? You've got to get that under control, whatever has to happen. So I'll I mean? Like, you gotta get that under control. Whatever has to happen. So, I'll leave it there. But you're right. She was fucking solid. Dude, that card flew by, right?

You had the O'Malley fight, which went almost a distance, but was pretty exciting. Then you had the Tui Vassa fight, or Aldana fight, whatever one was next. That was quick. Hardy fight, quick.

Co-main event went a little long, and then the main event was short as shit. That night ended pretty quickly. I was pretty happy about that. A lot of celebrities, too, Luke. A lot. A lot of celebrities. Shit tons of celebrities.

All right, so BC, it's time now where, instead of you and I asking each other questions, the donks get to ask us questions. It's time for DMs from donks. Donks. Boop-ba-da-boop-boop. Boop-boop. Yay! get to ask us questions. It's time for DMs from dogs. Alright, here is a consistent presence in our DMs. BC from CubbiesFan80.

In 10 years, whose MMA career will be looked at more fondly? McGregor or Rousey? Also, which of the two will be more relevant at the time in terms of public popularity for media, film, endorsements, and opportunities? In 10 years, BC. So in rousey also which of the two will be more relevant at the time in terms of public popularity for media film endorsements and opportunities in 10 years we see so in 2031 who whose career will be looked at more fondly i'm gonna say we have to i get i was thinking more about the letter all right

whose career will be looked at more fondly uh regret rousey is rousey's um tell me if i'm wrong rousey's legacy has been like like, history is not helping it. Like, do you think she could long-term be looked at as more of a Hoist Gracie pioneer specialist? Yes. So, you know, it's not getting healthier in that regard. So 10 years from now, will people look at the two-division champion, McGregor, biggest pay-per-view star,

they'll probably look at his legacy. I don't know. Then we are talking about Rousey's impact. Are we just talking impact or record, Luke, and accomplishment? Hey, listen, I'm not Cubby's fan 80. I don't know. It is an interesting debate there, Luke.

I don't know. Who will be more relevant for public opportunity for media, film, and endorsement opportunities? Rousey's doing a good job staying in that eye, you know, from wrestling to acting and directing and all that. Do you think McGregor 10 years from now will be like retired fighter, crazy personality, or like fully crossed over marketer, sometimes actor?

I don't think, I don't see that coming, Luke. Yeah. Yeah, I don't see that either. I think the former, not the latter but it's probably probably still going to be mcgregor luke he's more worldwide famous than rossi at repeat yeah yeah all right from spwns spawn slayer i guess bc and luke were making drinking bets no we weren't oh i see He's talking about a theoretical situation. Okay, theoretical situation.

BC and Luke are making drinking bets. Luke loses and now has to get the exact same tattoo that any fighter has. What fighter and what tattoo are you getting? Easy call. I would get Dylan Dennis' sleeve. I would get his sleeve. Easy, easy, easy, easy call. Dylan Dennis, like him or hate him

the guy who did his tattoo what was the spirit of that question I thought the spirit of the question was which tattoo would you force on somebody yeah the question is if I lost a bet let's say we were drinking and I lost a bet now I have to get any tattoo that any

fighter has so you have to replicate it exactly. Which one would you get? I would get Dennis's tattoo sleeve. Because while I have a sleeve that was the exact replica of somebody else's, it's a fucking amazing sleeve that is almost perfectly done. So I'd get that. No, it is solid.

It's solid ink, Luke. I thought I had to pick an embarrassing one for you, and I was going to 1000 give you the damage across your chest luke okay yeah that's in that rick and morty font and just uh yeah that's uh that's wild luke uh all right that's a fair one all right from wing stop daddy this man must eat a lot of wings which current u current UFC fighter would be absolutely dominate, he spelled it wrong, in BKFC? Real quickly, folks.

Dominate is spelled correctly here. You mean the word dominant. Two Ns, no E. Two different words. All right, BC. Which current UFC fighter would be... You think you're doing some good for the world? You probably think you're giving back right now. No you think you're you think you're you probably think

you're giving back right now no no here's the thing I know I'm not and people are gonna be like oh my god Luke just let us spell words like absolutely illiterate

jabronis there's two words that drive me fucking crazy in MMA they misspell dominant and they spell dominate which are two different words same word but different

different same root anyway and they misspell bias they don't conjugate it. So it'd be like, oh, you are bias. Like I'm the act, I'm the actual, I'm, I'm, I'm all things bias or am I biased? B I A S E D. If someone has bias folks, they are biased with an E DD on the end. Like BC has E-D, think of it that way. Biased. There you go. Luke, if somebody's ever calling you biased on Twitter,

they don't give a damn how you spell it, Luke, okay? I know. I've noticed that. I've noticed that. BC, who would kick ass in BKFC? Which current UFC fighter, they're asking? Greg Hardy Jessica Andrade

Jessica Andrade fucking I think Taito Iwasa would dominate in BKFC I really do Gaff our producer is offering Masvidal Masvidal would do well sure he started out that way Masvidal would do well

yeah there's a bunch of them that would do well. Did you say Derek Lewis? Derek Lewis would do well. I didn't, but that's a good call. That's a great call. We need more fat guys. Who's the most, now that Roy Nelson's kind of gone, who's the most prominent fat guy?

I think it's Ty. Unabashed fat fighter, Luke. Isn't it Ty? Isn't it Ty Tuivaza? Besides heavyweight DC, probably tied to Ivoza yeah probably tied alright from minor7102013

yeah that's definitely not someone's birthday thanks for the great Friday show we had a blast and it was so fun to meet you both and ask a question live on the show. How do you think a fight between Cody Garbrandt and Sean O'Malley would play out? At this point, I think Sean O'Malley might have his way.

That would be a brilliant fight, matchmaking-wise, Luke. Like, that would be great, great. Is that the one you like for him? I didn't get into it, but that's the one I would have picked for him, yeah. That one is all kinds of hot Luke it's very hot very hot

it was good living with you wow dude I find O'Malley's accuracy and angles and timing to be extremely good extremely good and Moutinho made it look a little bit weak because he has a chin and he could just walk through it but honestly most guys are not going to do that

they're going to get touched up a few times and then they're going to do something else but he's fucking nasty he's nasty you think Moutinho by the way I do think he repaired his say again you think Moutinho beats a prime Junie Browning yeah yeah because that'd be it from that'd be a trailer park super bowl Luke I'd be into that Junie Browning was mostly good on the ground not the feet all right from Danny Long Days what was your guys favorite part of the whole fight week being in Vegas thanks for all the great content and thanks to me for being a good sport and doing the shoeie okay well both of us did shoeis all right bc favorite part of the whole fight week while being in vegas going to get to the to the weed store the boys needed to get their candy uh i would say luke that uh uh without

a question it's a live mk show on friday We did two live shows there and did a bunch of great content around that. But, you know, that's an easy. That's an easy. Luke and BC make it look easy. I'll say the second biggest thing was being in the arena with the full crowd again, Luke. Like, look, it's a McGregor fight. The energy in that building was freaking intoxicating. I don't know if you could feel that through your TV, Luke.

That shit was, yes, please. I'll have what BC's having. Yeah, see, I don't care if you could feel that through your tv luke that shit was uh yes please i'll have what i don't care about anymore yeah oh are you kidding me that's the difference between you and me you're like i don't care about that stuff i'm like that's the sauce brother that's the boss that's why i'm here luke the fights all the fights the fights are the sauce the audience okay if you're gonna come come on bro okay you like, I'm not really into that part of it, though. I mean, come on. No, no. It's not that I'm not into it, BC.

It just doesn't meaningfully enhance my experience. It doesn't. I didn't take three needles for you to act like that. Okay, Luke? Seriously. Okay, can you do it this way, please, and not any other way so we can stay out of trouble, please? Thank you. Okay, three needles. All right, BC. We've uh we've done oh wait i think there's one more no

yeah no that was the last one favorite part of the whole five week i completely echo bc friday show was a big moment for the both of us i also have to say um you know the weed stores in vegas are nice so i've heard i've been told i So I've heard. I've been told. I've not seen personally. I've been told that they're really nice. Worst part was the incredible hair dyeing incident, Luke. Okay, can we just put that behind us? Which you then washed down with a $15 haircut that, you know, you tried to parade as like an example of high fashion haircutting.

All right, for $24, I got a competent haircut, the back massage, the shampoo, the head rub, the face towel. I got the full experience. Looks like, yo, I just went to Las Vegas Barber. It cost me 60 plus, you know, 55 and tip. Which is a steal where I'm from. Yeah, yeah. All right.

Well, that being said, it's time now, BC, for you to take it away and show us more of your shit. Wow. All right. Run that graphic there.

Yes, please. Oh, God. Luke, I did scour the globe for the good, the bad, the ugly, the in-between, combat sports and beyond. Here we go. UFC 264 giving us a lot of shit this week luke um let's go to this uh habib nirmaga medoff reaction tweet to the main event good always defeats evil your thoughts on habib here it's a little strong it's a little strong about this being a battle for people's soul. But I got to say this.

This fucking guy, Nurmagomedov, his hatred of Conor McGregor is it knows no boundaries. He is. Well, it's alive and well. 99% of the people on Twitter seem to agree with Habib. There was 1%, though. We don't have it here for a full screen. But here's a tweet that Ronda Rousey put out after the fight luke i'm amazed that as soon as you hit the ground you are already promoting the next fight conor mcgregor i definitely wouldn't have had the mind to do that the other

fighters you have seen media are lucky to have you your thoughts on ronda's take luke yeah i mean i don't really care about her takes bro i don't really you know that would not have been front of front of mind and that's what we're doing i don't follow a about her takes, bro. I don't really, you know, that would not have been front of mind. That's what we're doing. Listen, I don't follow a lot of fighters on Twitter. I don't really care about their takes for the most part. All right, well, do you care about this take? Here's McGregor on Instagram with his first reaction post-fight, Luke.

Can we go to the words? The post itself? No? I don't think they have that. The inscription there, Luke, was, you need people like me. Love it. That's well played, Luke. Yeah, that's well played. That's fine.

That's good. He's right. He's right. Alright, Luke, I'm sure you saw this. Jolie Pouawouolie did get the last laugh flipping off a uh defiant conor mcgregor there your thoughts she's ride or die boy isn't she she's been with dustin for all this time and uh wait was she stuck with him back when he did that documentary you know what i'm talking about i believe i believe so yeah i believe so fightville yeah yeah she's the real deal holyfield man she's uh she you can see why dustin is uh you audience his life around uh his family

and her and uh she is she's a firecracker yo you better marry a fighter at the end of the day that's the best that's the best advice i'll give people, Luke, okay? Right? Yeah, the white of our wives marry us. Yep, you better. You know what I'm saying? Hey, Luke, other people took shots at Conor McGregor, including Jake Paul, who had this made for him, Luke.

It's ice of Conor posing after the second. This dude makes me laugh, dude. I wish I could tell you he didn't. This dude makes me laugh, dude. I wish I could tell you he didn't. He fucking makes me laugh, man. He is, you know what? He's doing Colby Covington shtick without all the political overtones and all like the nerds and virgins stuff.

The kind of stuff that like is, you know, he's obviously being a prick on purpose, but he's doing it to get maximum laughs or whatever. I got to tell you, dude, Jake Paul makes me laugh a little bit. He's obviously being a prick on purpose, but he's doing it to get maximum laughs or whatever. I got to tell you, dude, Jake Paul makes me laugh a little bit. He's fucking funny. You've fallen for him, and you and I were talking about this in comparison to Logan, who was at the fight. By the way, he sat in the second row.

But is that Jake's just like crazy, like legitimately crazy enough that the risky side of his personality does does get a lot of wins luke yeah i mean this is stupid and juvenile understand that but like logan is a bit on the boring side not like bad side just a little on the boring side this dude's out there like i mean poking the bear with the fucking stick right in the eye and um you know we'll see we'll see we'll see how he handles it but he he's fucking funny, man. And Conor's not going to the Paul boxing business yet, brother. You've waited a few years on that.

Also, Luke, this tattoo making the rounds. By the way, did you see, real quickly, did you see that Jake Paul tweeted at Dustin Poirier being like, hey, do you want this piece? I'll give it to you for free. And he was like, send it. Send that shit. Yo, give that shit to me.

Yeah. Luke, your thoughts on this tattoo making the rounds? I'm not sure it's real, but it's hilarious. Just the same. I'll say this. So this is done in a traditional style. It's not bad. Line work's a little shaky.

Obviously, you can see the cage is a little bit on the, you know, it looks more like a spider web. And his glove is the size of you know a boxing glove but um it's hard to do details like that in a circle that small and i would say give it i mean look at the mcgregor on his stomach like you know how hard that is to do in that tiny ass little space it's pretty good actually i'm not great but pretty good pretty good i'm i'm actually blown away that you just gave like good faith breakdown of the art on this when uh all right yeah i love tattoos bc you know this i i'm not that in latin women luke it is you know what i mean that's my fucking weakness man it's my weakness yo sweetness all right let's go to uh it's shoey time let's bring ty to evasa back

luke this was him atop the cage wall is that the first time he's done that so brazenly luke like in the damn by the way i don't think that they will but the commission might find him and you'd be like oh really they would do that they i forget which commission did it when king mo got on top of the uh strike force hexagon and then poured the monster on himself they got fucking bitter about that so i you know not the biggest deal but let's see what the commission does about it rich strike force reference there well that was the one atop the cage but the one that's making the rounds luke among the five or six he seemed to do outside was with the fans near the tunnel when somebody put a little roofie a hot sauce in there luke i've had that hot sauce. It's tremendous. That's a hell of a shooey.

The report from Tuivasa... I like how that's the part he wants to scrape off of his tongue. Not the AIDS and dengue fever he's swallowing there heartily. Luke, to get these moments, the timing on that person to slip in and do it, that's just brilliant.

That's like throwing that pizza slice in the Fenway bleachers in that great, great video. It's just perfect. Luke, they asked Dana White, though, his thoughts on it. Can we play the audio, please? Would you share a shoe with Ty? If the world was on fire and everybody was dying of thirst that's the last

fucking thing i would ever do ever but good for him well luke we all know you can add the cliffs of wyimai Bay there as the other thing, Luke, against his dead body. He would have the courage to do it. He's like Charlton Heston. From my cold, dead hands, you'll never see me jump off a very small cliff. Soil and green is made out of people, Luke. Yes.

All right, let's keep it going here. More UFC 264 crap. Did you like the basketball skills that O'Malley brought into the game here with the crossover? Dude, he was dribbling this dude. I mean, this was target practice. I mean, that was like a – This was target practice.

Wow, it was like an air crossover, Luke. Yeah, man. This was a bad night for Moutinho. Good night, but a bad night. Bad hair night as well, but damn, that kid's got balls. Luke, Michelle Pineda, we're all here for it.

Let's relive the backflip heard around the world, and please tell me how this isn't like a minus two points foul, Luke, for kicking a downed opponent. So it's weird. You can't stomp an opponent, but you can axe kick an opponent oh

my god he just moved right into mount jesus christ i missed this fight because i was uh in transit trying to change locations i had checked in to get my credential and then i had to leave to go back to my hotel to do the post fight show and i missed this one um dude you know what god bless this guy i don't know how good he's gonna be motherfucker's going to do a lot of flips along the way, and that shit rocks. Yo, he actually regressed in this fight from the standpoint of staying on task. Now, we predicted that Nico could get him off of it,

but, Luke, I think, unfortunately, he emptied out the tank to try to finish Price after this flip, and he didn't have Price hurt enough. So Price had the better third round by far. In fact, it looked like Michel might be close to gassing out there. But then he got a decision that, look, and math tells you it's two to one potato. It's the right decision. But yeah, he looked bad, Luke.

He looked bad in that final round. And dude, the fans love the shit out of Nico Price, Luke. Yeah, they do. They pop for him. He's got a rep among fans who know what's up. Nico Price was like, you know, he wasn't featured hardly. And did he even what's up uh nico price was like you know he wasn't featured hardly and i don't did he even show up to media day i don't even know if he was there yeah if he was it wasn't for very long he didn't get a ton of like articles written about

him this week but i'm telling you every time this guy was introduced or his name was brought up and fans were there you could hear a pop for him so shouts to nico price he's doing something right uh luke big moment on the undercard for, please pronounce my name correctly, Dricus Duplessis. Is that how I understand it? Duplessis. Duplessis sent Trev and Giles to the Badlands, Luke. That is a hell of a counter shot. Big ass right hand.

Sent his ass to the land of wind and ghosts. I thought Giles was doing pretty good for the most part. It was nice and competitive, but one of those shots closed the fucking show. Luke, this guy thinks he's going to be a global star tomorrow. Are you liking his cockiness? Or do you think he's going to end up getting served? I haven't seen anything that's told me championship potential just yet.

But dude, you've got to let these guys let their imaginations be their guide. Anyone who's ever achieved something had to have ambitions that sounded crazy when you told someone about it. So what? Alright, do I see that he's going to be a champion in his weight class? Not necessarily.

But A, I don't know that he will or won't be, and B, let the man live. Let the man, you know, have his imagination or his goal. I don't know this firsthand, but you can have BDE without the actual D, Luke. You can just have BE? I know, I mean, you know, you can, yeah, okay can just have B. I know. I mean, you know, you can, you can. Yeah.

Okay. Let's get out of this, Luke. Let's keep it going. Luke, to open the night, Kazakhstan's Zalgaz Zumagalov had a hell of a submission against Jerome Rivera. Luke, this was nasty, dude. This went from zero to nasty in a second. Some people call this a ninja choke, but when I came up, we called it a power guillotine. It's basically a guillotine just with the rear naked choke bicep grip.

And I have seen more people put to sleep in regional MMA with this choke than maybe any other. Because what they'll end up doing is you saw it. Go back. Watch. So why did this work? Well, he locks it up here behind the armpits. You would have thought maybe darts. But you see Rivera keeps chasing it

down. He keeps chasing it down on his hands and knees, which gives the other guy an opportunity to switch his hand grip, and he does and closes the show there. He didn't really reassess the position. He just kind of chased into it and sealed his own demise as a consequence.

Luke, DAZN Boxing from Los Angeles, unbeaten light heavyweight gilberto can we point out that we had people in our stable in our production crew that had did not realize that da zone was pronounced the way da zone because it's supposed to be the zone but then like cool and hip so it's supposed to be da they literally did not know that's what da zone is named after i just want to point out that's true if you didn't know it and it's the to be Daza. They literally did not know that's what DAZN is named after. I just want to point out that's true if you didn't know it and it's the dumbest shit I've ever heard, but okay.

Wow, Luke, you're like, let me go out of my way to just, you know, that episode in Oz. Whoever came up with that name and that company should have been fired a long time ago. You fucked up royally with that one. Wow, wow. Alright, Zerno Ramirez, Luke, has switched promotions and he's now with Golden Boy. He made his

debut in this main event against respected challenger Sullivan Barrera and El Zerto finished him, Luke, to the body, a knockdown in the third, a second one to the body in the fourth, and then even one more, Luke, and that was it. So here's the deal. Ramirez used to

have a bell at 168. Now he's at 175. He's unbeaten. I never thought he was world class, like, you know, next level world class. But he can punch, Luke. He's like 43-0 now. And he's trying to add to the marketing of him that he's trying to go like 50-0 and best Mayweather. You care about anything like that?

He's got a cool nickname, the left-handed guy. You know, the lefty, whatever. I mean, if he can get in there with B-Vol and Canelo, good God. Your guy from Montreal, what the hell is the guy's name? Baterbiev? Baterbiev, yeah. There could be some fun fights to make there. For sure. For sure. On the undercard, Puerto Rico's

Brian Chevalier, a.k.a. Papi Chari, wrapped up a victory in the ring, Luke, by proposing to his girlfriend after. Luke, you have been an outspoken critic against public moments of this kind.

Your thoughts on this one? Yeah, I mean, I hate everything about this. I mean mean i'm glad they're in love and they're gonna have a i wish them a happy marriage i mean that sincerely but dude fucking a if you're proposing and there's a disowned mic flag in front of you you just should know it's not the way you should be doing it but really more than just DAZN fucking it up. Guys, stop proposing to people and making strangers celebrate you. Stop doing that. You don't need to do it at restaurants where the chef has to come out and fucking meh. Or, you know, strangers around you, oh, congratulations. Stop making strangers do shit for you.

This is a private moment. Keep it private. I'm not conscripted into your night of entertainment don't get me wrapped up i got my own shit going on if you care about this person i'm sure that he does do it in a way that is discreet and it's just about you guys if you ask me to do it and i'm the next time this happens at a restaurant bc i'm just gonna fucking boo i'm gonna boom and wish him happy luck in divorce court i think if you look like us then doing stuff like this deserves the wrath of luke but if you look like this chick luke you do whatever you want right yeah yes listen she's

she seems a very nice woman you know and she forgave this master of ceremonies i mean think about that dude Dude, you proposed on DAZN. I mean, you know. All right. Also on DAZN this week, Luke, Starling Castillo with a heck of an undercard knockout to get Luke's attention. Ooh, fucking A.

Yikes. I hadn't seen this one. That was like Pez container. Oh, that left hand caught him dipping. Boom. He got him leaning off the side and then just met him with the left hand. Man, that is. It looks like when they blow up those animals and then they deflate them

and they just kind of fall, Luke. That's what it looked like. Wow. Yeah, okay. Luke, this is also on DAZN, but this is from a week ago. Added in, Alexis Rocha knocked his opponent so hard, Luke, he knocked him out of the damn ring. Oh, man.

Almost. Almost, Luke, okay? Sent to hell under the ropes in the end, but well done. Pretty close. All right, Luke. Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence jr on sunday had a press conference in the fox la studios the first face-off ahead of their august 21st pay-per-view you get catching any feels yeah i'm pumped for this fight i'm pumped for this fight i think

pacquiao's got a tall order but i think he's gonna push Spence in ways that several recent opponents haven't. Spence to me is like, at least at this stage of Spence's career, I like this opponent because I do think he needs a challenge. I'm not saying he's coasting, but you're not going to see the best of him this time unless somebody makes him do it. And I think Pacquiao is just the kind of guy to maybe lose, but push Spence in a way where you can really see everything Spence has to offer I think that's where I'm at yeah dude I love this fight I like what I've liked it a year ago year and a half ago yeah a lot better but I love

I still love the crap out of this fight so looking forward to that uh Luke let's let's uh check out this dive from the back room of a fast food. I think they call this diving into unemployment, Luke. You know what, man? Having worked in fast food, I say to this man, keep living the dream, player. Yep, yep. And then if I was the manager manager I'd fire him on the spot oh Luke a lot of people getting up in arms about soccer

the past week I haven't been following it I'm sure you had here's the things I've been following though check out Haiti's goalkeeper through the wickets Luke man poor Haiti I mean this guy has the worst fucking kick on earth and then their president gets assassinated by like 13 colombians just a terrible day which one would you rather be luke

that's it that's what you gotta ask yourself that is tough wow all right uh luke check out this denmark soccer fan trying to carry 12 beers up the steps at the Euro. Euro? Fucking legend. Look at this fucking legend. Wow, that takes a lot of balls. Yeah, you know what? Can you imagine being behind this asshole in line though? Because you're behind

this guy. You're like, alright, I'm almost there. I just need one beer. He's like, give me all your fucking beer. Can I have the one he was breathing in the whole time up the stairs? Can I have that one? Wow. All right. And you know he paid like some unconventional way, like either with exact change that he

pulled out of his fucking fanny pack or some shit, that blue bag that's in his hands. I guarantee you this guy is the worst person to be behind. He should have paid in Land Jaeger, Luke. Just pull the sausage out, right? I would have accepted his Land Jaeger into my mouth. Yo, you should start a Bitcoin rival that's just

like cured beef, Luke. It just meets, you know? All right. Luke, check out this British fan losing control of their reality here during the celebration uh he's got a three lions tattoo on his back oh i think he had three too many luke yeah wow yeah oh you know what he just stays in the seats and just keeps clapping god bless bless this fat bastard.

He's still going. He's still partying. Look at this guy. Wow, Luke. That is, yeah. Hey, who would have guessed that Canadians are friends? By the way, I like what sent him tumbling is just slightly leaning over his toes. Yeah. Look, no one hits him.

No one pushes him. He's not drinking. Watch. He just turns around. He leans over. Too far. That's pushes him. He's not drinking. Watch. He just turns around. He leans over. Too far. That's it. Bye.

Bye-bye. Speaking of large men, Derek Lewis getting the first pitch opportunity with the Houston Astros. Can you rate his form here, Luke? Well, he definitely does not throw like a girl. That's true. I mean, he throws hard, but he threw it into the ground, Luke. He threw it right into the ground.

Here's the thing, though. I lived through John Wall's first pitch, so this is terrible, but nothing compares to John Wall's first horrendous Nationals pitch. Is that the worst one, or is it the 50-cent one at the Mets game? I think, honestly, John Wall's is worse because 50-cent at the mets game i think honestly john walls is worse because 50 cents not an athlete john wall's an athlete and it was still the worst fucking thing you've ever seen like easily my wife could throw better than john wall easily remember when 50 cent made bulletproof fest like a fashion statement luke that was like yeah that was stupid if no

well if you were jacked and you could pull that off bro all right i well, if you were jacked, then you could pull that off, bro. I mean, I wasn't that jacked, Luke. Come on. All right, Luke. Flex Fight Series. Check out Mackenzie Heaton with a grossly violent KO here, Luke. Your thoughts on the referee's decision-making. Are they fighting in slow motion? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. making are they fighting in slow motion oh boy oh boy hurt him to the body so if they're wearing this gear that means they're amateurs or at least low level oh we don't need to see that luke

yeah i mean you know I'm not really I can't tell if this is just a fat kid getting bullied at school that's bad that's bad now I feel bad ever doing this segment let's get Canelo in here to cheer us up Luke he hit the links at the American Century Golf Championships in Lake Tahoe

Lake Tahoe and this putt is for Eagle brother in Lake Taco Lake Tahoe, and this putt is for Eagle, brother. In Lake Taco? Lake Taco. What? I'd swim there, Luke. Yeah, right? Wow.

Oh, shit. All right, let's see now Canelo from the rough, please. Look at this guy. Look at this guy look at this guy luke if he has a libido anywhere near tiger he could be a legend in this game luke did you see him did you see him kind of halfway sparring with uh with uh steph curry let's go to the videotape luke oh shit yeah he catches uh he catches the timing of the steps of uh curry so watch curry will double step into him or maybe even triple step and then he catches him watch one two bop see that caught him in between the steps nice yeah great great pink shirt too luke all right let's keep it going you know what if? If you're Canelo, you can wear...

I mean, can you imagine me wearing what Canelo's wearing? First of all, you have a long-sleeved shirt. You did wear that at the Versace mansion. You wore the... Yeah, but with the collar popped and shit. Like, he can pull that off, but... Yeah. Jesus Christ.

We should bring that back. We should bring popping collars back, you know? Although it's usually... Pop my collar. Yeah. All right, luke let's go to boxing in kazakhstan this is heavyweight prospect ivan dychko sending dennis baktov to uh wow oh oh how is was he doing the peloton there luke that was he was he looked like a beetle stuck on his back oh oh that's terrible i can't celebrate this shit luke i'd rather it's like it's like

cheering for an old guy to get injured right luke you picked it well speaking of let's go to old guys getting injured luke come on grandpa you got to stay off the uh wow wow i'm telling you, I'm telling you, no one is a bigger fan of elder abuse than you. I've never seen someone who was like, yo, fuck old people. Yo, he tried to do, remember that snowboarder for the U.S. at the Olympics was like trying to celebrate at the end and then she fell and lost the medal? He tried that, Luke. You know, he tried to get cute with those baggy ass wranglers he's wearing. Oh my God, he kissed the, excuse me those baggy ass wranglers he's wearing. Oh, my God.

He kissed the... Excuse me while I kiss the ground, Luke. Okay. Let's go swinging, Luke. Nowhere else to go but swinging. I think they call this the swing of death, Luke. So he's got locals holding it down. He's trying to get that flip, bro.

Oh, nice. Oh, God. Oh, nice. Oh, God. That was rough. That was a rough ending, Luke. Wow. Wow. You know, it was so promising. It was so promising.

Who put that brick wall there, Luke? Look at that. Wow. All right. Hey, BC, are they white? I can't tell. Well, they are. Seems so out of character.

Let's swing low, sweet Cheerio. Whoa. Oh, God. Look, that swing looks incredible, right? Except for that guy hanging for his life. BC, have you ever been skiing? No. So I've been skiing a few times as a kid actually went a lot obviously you have to get on those uh i forget what they even called now but the the seats that rotate you have to sit down it takes to the top of the slope and then you come back down ski lift luke the ski lift yes

scars the ski lift yes a buddy of mine fumbled getting onto the ski lift, and they just kept it rolling. But it was one of those situations where the ski lift, there's a moment where it actually is just barely above, the seats are just barely above the actual ground, and so you have to kind of lift your skis up so that it doesn't get caught. This motherfucker didn't, like,

he didn't stick the landing at all, so the fucking ski lift chair just completely ran over him, and he looked like one of those cartoon characters when like the steamroller has come by and then they stand up and then their body is imprinted into the pavement that was him and he was like man fuck you guys and i was like yes but that was really funny watching you get plowed plowed over like that it's my story you sober yourself were you sober during that? Sadly, yes. All right. Luke, you want to see the greatest 30 seconds in MMA history? Watch this, Luke.

Sure. I mean, I don't know who these gentlemen are, but this thing is wild. They're just spamming all the techniques, huh? They're just jamming all the buttons on the controller at the same time. It's incredible. Yeah, it's not a super technical fight, but... Oh!

Oh, shit. Dude, that's like a poor man's Pat Berry Czech Congo. Exactly, exactly what it is. Wow. Wow, I enjoyed that. That 30 seconds was worth it let's keep it going here luke uh yes soup for you or no hair luke uh this is this is this turns badly this turns very bad i mean could this person be living more like a hoarder i mean i mean they're gonna have more problems coming up soon oh my hey could you oh hey could you create could you create a few more piles of things in that room?

Not enough. That's painful, Luke. That is painful. All right, I got one more for you. This is a drunk fan at a cricket game caught on camera, Luke, taking a bite out of crime. You down for this behavior first of all he's drinking alcohol like a sippy cup luke it's like bro your your your moms didn't wean you off of that 20 years ago

luke this is the uh 30 40 years ago for your before and after picture pictures inside your, for your, your, your manly fraternity, Luke, this is definitely the after, this is what becomes of all you, of all you,

uh, dude, it's so funny that you're so anti frat when you are the most frat eligible guy I've ever seen in my life. No one would have loved it more than you. No, no, no,

no, Luke. I don't need the brand. I don't need the brand i don't need you know like you know i'm just fine okay you're so wrong about that you you dude you would have been blue tarski 0.0 not a chance if anyone would have not a chance great movie though all right it is a good movie all right that's it huh that's all the that's all the shit I got I don't I don't know what you're looking at what are you looking for all right BC that means it's time for odds and ends what do you have for us for odds and ends I don't have anything Luke well we're glad

you came to today's show prepared you found people of uh advanced ages falling on cement but you don't have an odds and end yeah Yeah, I was going to talk about our trip, but we already talked about it, Luke, okay? We did talk about our trip. I'll make this quickly, then. In the vein of what you saw here with BC and some of the folks chitter-chattering at Conor McGregor afterwards,

Rafael Dos Anjos has been a little active on social media going after Conor McGregor. He said this on July 6th, alcoholic hallucinosis from drinking cheap whiskey until 3.39 a.m. But that wasn't exactly the one that really had my mind on it. It was after the fight when he had made a joke about,

there's this one too, Conor, you're such a snake, sneaking from behind and playing tough. Sooner or later, we will finish business. I'm not like the guys you play around with. This was after the weigh-ins, so this was July 9th. But it was post-fight when, here we go.

You can see it there. He had an initial tweet about bruised foot. It was the same thing Conor had made fun of Dos Anjos about when they were supposed to have a fight, which never materialized, and Eddie Alvarez ended up getting the fight instead. But here you see it. When I broke my foot before, or maybe it wasn't any i don't know it was diaz sorry what am i saying when i broke my throw it one more time here if you can so i can

read it uh when i broke my foot before our fight this guy made fun of my injury and continued to do so for years taste your own medicine bc and humble up i like the energy from RDA. I like the energy. I love it. Can we zoom in? My favorite thing I've ever kept. Come on, Luke. No, no, no, no. Yeah, on BC. On BC. Back it up a little bit.

The Josiah McGregor door key from the AC196. Back it up. There we go. It's getting there, Luke. Okay, it's getting there. Yeah. Is that your key card to your room? It was.

It was a key card to the room. Obviously, that was Nate Diaz who replaced R getting there. Yeah. Is that your key card to your room? It was. It was a key card to the room. Obviously, that was Nate Diaz who replaced RDA there. Luke, I said this the other day. Every time I interview RDA, of course, when you interview RDA, you're going to bring up Conor, right? But every time he's like, that fight will happen again, I feel it. It's just a matter of freaking fact. Luke, that might be the best fight.

That might be it right there. Yes. I got to tell you. I got to tell you. I like that fight. I like that fight a lot. I think that's a great fight to make i hope they do it so we'll see uh okay bc one more time let's remind the folks if you want to follow us on social you certainly can our socials will be put up right here below morning combat's name is consistent everywhere bc and i slightly different names between twitter and Instagram. As always, like this video.

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So there's that. BC, if they want to email us for fan submissions, which have been kind of light the last few weeks, or dead wrong, morningcombat at gmail.com is the place to email us. Yeah, please do that, folks. Thank you so much. And just, you know, one more time, folks. What you gave us Friday, what you gave us with the reaction to that, the DM slides, all that stuff, is real.

It's real. All right? I caught the feels. There's real love, okay? MK, in fact, is for lovers. So let's be monogamous, but let's bang. Okay. And then if you want to get some of the store, morningcombat.store.

Morningcombat.store is your place to be for all the things you need for merch morning combat.store and of course if you want to try showtime because by the way bellator on friday and uh let's see boxing on saturday not pay-per-view on showtime you can go to showtime.com get a 30-day free trial if you like it you can keep it if not no worries but at least you get a chance to try out the many products by the way bc BC, we sat behind Ben Fulks at I think the weigh-in, and he was telling us about this show on the Showtime app called Gigolos, and he was asking me what I thought about it, and I was like, Ben Fulks,

I don't watch shows about Gigolos, but I know that you do, apparently. Yeah, shout out to Ben Fulks. It was great to see him. Luke, am I lying here? It was actually really good to see the damn Schmo and Bobby Barstool, Robbie Fox over there. We were in line. We were

around Schmo a lot this weekend. Gotta say, very nice guy. Like the Schmo. Real nice guy. Shout out to the damn Schmo. Seriously. And same thing with Robbie Barstool's not hiding who he is. He's also a pretty good dude, so who knew?

Yeah, he's a good dude, too, but DeSchmo definitely, definitely, and he was killing it. He had his own party at the Hard Rock and everything. He was doing big shit. No, DeSchmo's going to make a lot of money. DeSchmo has a mind for this. Yeah, he knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing, for sure, so shouts to DeSchmo.

I'll call him friend of MK. DeSchmo, how about that? Wow, wow. All right, shout out to helen ye too right like let's let's you know let's show love luke okay you saw a lot of your old friends in vegas say you hadn't seen for years luke because you've been you kind of been an old bitch the last couple years but now you're back you're back on the scene crispy and clean yeah you can try but it'll be a while before i go to another ufc i'm not gonna i don't have any plans to go to a UFC show for a while, but I got to say this, BC, last thing,

you know, I thought we were going to walk in there like persona non grata because you got killed in that video and I'm pretty sure Dana doesn't. I was half surprised

I didn't get, you know, banned to be honest with you, but I got to say this, BC, and I want to say it on the air because I think it deserves to be said. You know, we didn't have any interaction

with Dana or anybody else, but we, if you're a UFC media member, obviously your interaction is going to be with ufc media staff that's just the way that it goes you're going up to media events you're going to see them there can we have a can we have a two thumbs up for the professionalism of the ufc media staff taking good care of us giving us great seats for everything answering any question we had immediately trying to help us with whatever issue we had from Chelsea, Chris Costello, Linnae, all of them.

All of them were like a huge help this weekend. Very kind to us. I was impressed, man. I was impressed by their professionalism. And they had a hard task with COVID and everything else going on. COVID rules anyway. There's still COVID rules in effect. Shouts to the UFC staff. They did a great job.

They did a really great job. It was awesome. Shout out to them. It's good to know where you stand, Luke, and they have respect for us. We have respect for them. It's a very strong working relationship. Take that. Rewind it back. Thanks one more time to everybody who showed up last week.

To everyone who's new here, we'll be back on Wednesday to get you ready for the weekend. And yeah, I think that's it. That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. For everyone from CBS Sports, Showtime, Malka, and everyone else in between, we thank you so much for watching. We'll be back on Wednesday.

And until then, may all of your gains be loyal.