MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC 272 Storylines | Conor McGregor | Chimaev-Burns | Cain Velasquez | Ep. 271

Episode Date: March 2, 2022

On episode 271 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian discuss the biggest storylines ahead of UFC 272. Did Rafael Dos Anjos get the right replacement opponent? Dana White said that Conor McGregor could pote...ntially jump the line at lightweight for a title shot. Is actually possible? Dana White also said that Khamzat Chimaev vs. Gilbert Burns is official for UFC 273. The guys close out the main topics with some quick hitters. What is going on with Cain Velasquez? Why did Dillian Whyte no show the Tyson Fury press conference? The boys break it all down. (8:45) - Cain Velasquez (20:20) - UFC 272 Storylines (39:20) - Conor McGregor (48:00) - Khamzat Chimaev vs. Gilbert Burns (55:20) - Errol Spence Jr. vs. Yordenis Ugas (66:00) - Quick Hitters (84:00) - Fan Submissions Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, it's Wednesday. It's hump day. It's MK day. It's time to get it all started here on the 2nd of March, 2022. Hello everyone. I am merely one half of your hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I join you from the capital of Estados Unidos here in Washington, DC, and I am joined by the viceroy of Connecticut Until Glover Teixeira renounces his belt or otherwise loses it, he can only be the Viceroy, but soon he will be king. It is my friend and yours. It is Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian Campbell. How are you? Luke, I'm doing great. Do you want to know why specifically?
Starting point is 00:00:59 Sure. Remember that time you hinted that I might be racist for not celebrating customs or holidays of other cultures? Well, yesterday, luke was fat tuesday and while we know what that means for mardi gras in the polish community that means it's punch key season biatch so luke i went to big y and there was this giant sign with these massive donuts you know this big and i bought a six pack of them dude filled with bavarian cream and oh god look i have so much polish sugar in my system right now i'm like jan blachowicz without the the the hanging rope around his neck from the trees you know what i'm talking about luke okay i could i could imagine you going up there like kenny powers buying the donuts and then telling everyone
Starting point is 00:01:41 to stop asian hate when you left. That's what I'm talking about. Luke, if you ain't had a fresh poochki, I mean, are you really a real fat guy, Luke? I mean, do you really know what's up? You know what I'm saying? Now, I'll be honest. I don't know if I've ever had one. How would you describe it? These are basically Polish donuts. Is that the idea?
Starting point is 00:01:58 I would describe it as a traditional donut on steroids. So the box I bought had basically boston cream looking ones and powdered ones both filled to the nines with with the yellow cream luke cream right get on top right you know what i'm saying i do i do know what you are saying as it only took you three minutes to refer to your genitals uh pretty nicely done all right we have a busy show today i want to remind folks we have to get to all the UFC stories. We have some Cain Velasquez news, which we're going to start with.
Starting point is 00:02:28 We have some new announcements for some title fights. Plus of course, UFC 272 is this weekend. So thumbs up on the video, please hit subscribe. If you'd be so kind, please, if you're listening on podcasts,
Starting point is 00:02:38 give us a nice review on whatever platform you are listening on. As a reminder, showtime.com is the label that pays. You can go to showtime.com and get a free 30-day trial. MorningCombat at gmail.com is going to be the email. That is going to be both for today's fan subs, Friday's Dead Wrong, or if you need to reach the show in BC. I have to tell you, our intrepid merch guy, RJ,
Starting point is 00:03:00 hit me up when you were trying to get on and told me to tell you if fans go to MorningCombbat.store right now until then, the day of the holiday, which is St. Patrick's Day, we have St. Patrick's Day merch available right now, morningcombat.store. Wow. I thought I was really hoping for Fat Tuesday merch, Luke. You know, while I am not actually Polish, I am a massive Ioana Young Jacek fan, so I was hoping for that. But I'll take the new merch, just the same morningcombat.store. Tell them Big Ray sent ya. You know RJ, right?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Big Ray, Luke? Guy brings it. Big Ray, yes. Big Ray. Alright, well with that out of the way, let's go ahead and get this show started if we can. Well, hold on. Can I interrupt you? Can we promote something first, Luke, please? Yes. Yes, please. You bag a dick, right? Can we promote something first, Luke, please? Yes, yes, please. You bag of dick, right?
Starting point is 00:03:50 I mean, you know, what's a little insult between friends, Luke? We've got an outstanding amount of content at YouTube.com slash Morning Combat for you. Not only great interviews and, of course, the rooftop diaries, that is pregame preview with Chuck Mendenhall ahead of UFC 272. But we launched yesterday, resume review, Colby Covington, Luke Thomas. And, you know, I'd have to say, it's arguably one of our better ones, Luke. I mean, you kind of mailed it in a little. But besides that, you know, BC brought it. I'm glad to hear that. Glad to hear you feel that way.
Starting point is 00:04:22 All right. With that, go ahead. Well, Luke, before you throw to the show, OK, and talk about much more serious topics, including gunfire, you know, they say there used to be a curse. I do want to show you this tweet that one of our, as you would say, intrep MMA resume reviews without Chuck Mendenhall are undefeated, undisputed. 8-0 with seven finishes. Luke, that is true, bro. I'm not trying to move the goalpost on you, but that is true. Not trying to move the goalpost, but you're going to move them just the same.
Starting point is 00:05:02 All right, so that's the new one, which I guess, no matter what happens here, wouldn't confirm or deny since Chuck was, well, I guess if it actually, if it breaks the curse with Chuck, then it would be the new one. Alright, good to know. Good to know that that is apparently the new line in the sand. I guess we'll see how things go on Saturday. So that means put all of your money on GameBread
Starting point is 00:05:20 this weekend. That's what that actually means, okay? That's what that means. I'm just the messenger, Luke. Okay, I'm just the facilitator here, alright? all right with that out of the way let's get to topic number one here and kick off the show kane velasquez had the former ufc heavyweight champion of the world former i think for a very brief stint anyway wwe a professional wrestler he has been arrested and charged with attempted murder it is is crazy beyond description, but it is the reality. Here is what we know. It is all quite basic at this level.
Starting point is 00:05:49 There's a lot we don't. He was booked into the Santa Clara, which is, of course, a California county jail. According to the San Jose Police Department on Tuesday morning, there was a shooting at the intersection of Monterey Highway and Bailey Avenue, according to media reports. And we should be very clear about that. Again, I want to caution. There remains a lot that is unknown about this.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Velazquez is charged with allegedly shooting at this vehicle. In the vehicle were three people, one of which was somebody who was accused and has been charged. Again, they are technically, like Velazquez, innocent until proven guilty, but has been charged with allegedly molesting one of Velazquez's family members. Now, we don't know who that family member is. That person is a minor,
Starting point is 00:06:33 so they have not been identified. So this looks to be, I'm sure some people are quite happy with the motivations behind it, or at least not bothered by them, but this looks to be something of a vigilante hit, if you can call it that. B.C., I don't know what there is to really say about this,
Starting point is 00:06:48 except that the gentleman who is the person in question who has been arrested for alleged molestation, he was not hit. The person who was hit in the car was the stepfather, although he did not, according to police reports and what has been reported in the media, B.C., has not retained any serious injuries. So that person, everyone in the vehicle is more or less physically okay uh velasquez as we speak i think is to be arraigned today and remains behind bars bc i don't know what to ask you about this except to say isn't this one of the most insane things you've ever seen in your life i mean you know
Starting point is 00:07:19 crazy and this escalated fast when we first heard the report it was like there was a shooting involving kane velasquez and we know nothing more. And to your greater point, a lot of this is alleged or sourced or reported. So, you know, let's wait a little bit more on full judgments. But look, the reaction is shocking, not just given Cain's, I want to say, good standing reputation and relaxed on camera demeanor, although that obviously can mean nothing in a very tense life situation. We wondered right away, do we have a Marvin Harrison situation?
Starting point is 00:07:53 Or even worse, Luke, do we have an Aaron Hernandez situation here? But I think the tide of public reaction turned heavily once the few details that we have began to come out in terms of the potential motivation. And then Luke, you end up finding out that the, the accuser, the accused here in this case works at the, I'm sorry, lives at the house that the daycare in which his mother owns and operates, you know, is the place where Velasquez's family member is.
Starting point is 00:08:22 But Luke, before we found out all those details and before we found out one other important detail being reported that the molestation happened upwards of 100 times, is that when I saw that mugshot right there, my first thought was, damn, like, there's no remorse there. That doesn't look like an accident.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And I think before we knew the details, we started to ask ourselves what really happened there. And I think Luke, once I found out the details, I'm certainly, certainly not gonna come out and say, this is a justified reaction from Kane. This is, you know, street justice. This is what men do. This is, you know, street justice. This is what men do. This is, you know, a lot of things like that. But I will tell you this. Dave Velasquez is a real dude.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Whether you live by that code or not. And Luke, I don't particularly subscribe to this exact code of reaction, but there's some Teddy Atlas putting the gun in Mike Tyson's air type of shit. Like this is the real shit. And I think while I won't stand here and gratify, like, you know, you know, like justify it or, or, or, or put Kane's decision on a pedestal because of the potential fallout for so many others. I think you have to say this. You understand it. You understand it. I'll talk for myself and then you can respond. Kane, I understand it 100%. And what could be the fallout for Kane? I mean, not only could he have taken the live of this accused guy and we saw the stepfather getting hit. I mean, he could have taken other lives in making a move this reckless. And he also, Luke, could be taking his own life and putting himself
Starting point is 00:10:10 behind bars and affecting his own family and all the fallout that comes with it. But I get it, Luke. And I mean, we don't really live in an eye for eye society, although good, good Lord, are we, are we, you you know hurtling closer to world war three i have no idea right now based on the headlines you know politically but there's something about this story that i think saw a lot of people react to this and go yeah i get i get it i get it is that is that insane no i don't think it's insane i mean listen again we don't know a whole lot i mean we know some uh you know if if it is true and again this this person will have their day in court but if this is true that
Starting point is 00:10:49 this person molested a minor a hundred times i mean who on earth could feel sympathy for this person under any circumstance like if kane had offed him are any of us going to lose sleep over that like no i'm not not why don't i i might even sleep a little bit better to be quite honest with you it's not that i guess mostly bc i just feel sad i just feel sad first the whole thing is just tragic first and foremost again it is alleged we don't we'll see what the courts decide but if it is true that this minor whoever this person may be had this suffered to them that's a lifetime of damage they may never recover from that is a i mean an unspeakable horror to do that to a person moreover you can't undo it so now they just have to live with this even if this person
Starting point is 00:11:31 had been killed by kane but they weren't so now they live and now in trying to go through this vigilante thing it's like dude i don't even care if that guy had died i i really don't i i don't i don't know many people that would to be honest with you but he didn't he lived and the other person lived and now kane is the one who is i mean by the letter of the law i don't know what the evidence is i guess we'll have to see but assuming he actually did this to your point with the with the mugshot he didn't look particularly sad about the whole thing and you know i can understand again do i understand kane's like how would i feel if someone did that to my daughter maybe i'll do the exact same thing. Who knows how you're going to react?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Let me stop you right there. You just nailed it. One clarification. One clarification. I don't know if it's Kane's daughter. I want to be clear about this. Yes. They say family member.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I don't know who that person is. I'm only saying if it happened to my daughter, I would react that way, maybe. And the only age-specific things we know is that the the accused is being charged of molesting someone under the age of 14 so that's the only thing we do know but you i think you hit upon the key point when bring you know when looking in the mirror at your own life and saying look i'd like to believe i'm a you know a little bit more civilized where i wouldn't react like this but you know who knows luke unless you're in that potential situation and who knows and and it i guess the greater point is is let's not the greater point is I'm not here to celebrate Kane.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I'm here to say, like you said, damn, this is a tragedy on every single level and could have been much, much worse. Much, much worse. Who knows what could have happened to other people in that intersection, although I don't know what happened there either. I'm just saying, here's what's sad about it. This person who has been molested has been affected for life.
Starting point is 00:13:07 This alleged molester, if it is true, will walk, not in terms of justice, but ambulatory. They're not in any way affected by what Kane did. And now Kane has to go to jail. Now, I don't know what a jury is going to do. I don't know what is next. But Jesus Christ, it just feels like a horrific situation i don't think i can recall bc can you think of another famous combat sports champion not who got in trouble with the law i mean that's not all that uh hard to find but who did something like this and again not that we're
Starting point is 00:13:38 judging per se how we would react in that case but just did something like this where they where they acted out in this manner which was according to what we know for the police report dude very direct very specific very full of intent it was a botched execution so to speak but um i just i don't think i've seen anything like this in this particular kind of way yeah no we haven't we haven't i mean we've seen a lot of really bad situations from oj to ray caruth to war machine you know across major sports and aaron hernandez but i'm not sure if we have an exact those are all different yeah all different i'm not sure if we have a direct comparison here but you know i mean there were some i mean i think i even saw
Starting point is 00:14:20 an interview like two weeks ago uh i forgot was it Javier Mendez who was sort of saying, look, I'm not really sure Kane is 100% done with MMA. So it's sort of like, you know, here's somebody who's not far from, you know, having his face on the poster of a WWE pay-per-view for whatever that matters against Brock Lesnar and obviously competing at the highest levels of the UFC. But it's very unique, this situation. And man, I'm not sure what the fallout's going to be, Luke. I mean, you know, I keep thinking, for better or worse, that scene in that movie, is it a time to kill with the line? Matthew McConaughey, and yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:01 yeah. Is it Samuel L. Jackson who delivered that line the famous line of uh yes i uh you know yes they deserve to die i hope they burn in hell yeah yeah and i and you remember that the way that moment set up it was like again in that situation different from the kane situation but again i get it i guess the last thing i'd say is but in that scenario the guy had gotten or not gotten away but he had fully uh gone through with his plan about killing the guy kane went through with the plan but it didn't work and now he's the only one well this other guy has these other crimes to answer for but as a release of that and one is the one in jail it's like how is this what this is upside down world you know no it is it is and one other key in the and look there are situations in life where
Starting point is 00:15:43 where the law you know you could say the law isn't needed or or you stop thinking about the fallout of the law and and you know sometimes you get in that point in life but you know it is important to note luke that this guy was under um police custody and then was released on bail and i think the story said uh against the better judgment of of what Like the local... The local district attorney objected to this guy being released and the judge overruled him and released him anyway. And three days later,
Starting point is 00:16:12 you know, yeah, Kane came calling. So, wow. And, you know, Velasquez has turned down all requests for interviews from jail of the newspapers and such. But, yeah. You know, again, to your initial statement statement i don't know what to ask or what to say we just said a lot but unique scary tragic all that and and then some i mean who had
Starting point is 00:16:33 cain velasquez in prison for murder or attempted murder anyway on their bingo card for 2022 boy i gotta tell you that wasn't on mine you know however justified you might believe it to be i still didn't have it on mine so what a shame what a terrible situation i i guess we'll see what happens with it all right bc let's turn our attention if we can't do the big fights this weekend ufc 272 now as you indicated a we have a pre-game preview me bc chuck benden hall already on the site now up yesterday you can go and check it out either during the show, after the show, whenever you want resume review on Colby Covington, which means we now have resume reviews on both the
Starting point is 00:17:09 main event competitors, I should say. We did one previously on Jorge, we did one this week on Colby. Let's put a pin in that and come back to it for just a second, BC. We've got to talk about the new co-main event. Rafael Dos Anjos was sort of originally expected on this card
Starting point is 00:17:25 to face Rafael Fazeev. Fazeev yesterday, so that would be Tuesday, comes down, actually I think even on Monday or Tuesday, had come down with COVID. He's out, so they had to find a replacement. BC, they almost went with Islam Makachev, but for whatever reason it didn't work, even at 170 pounds. Instead, in steps Hanato Moikano,
Starting point is 00:17:44 fresh off of his win over Alexander Hernandez at 155 but they're going to make it a 160 pound catch weight and this is the kicker it will be for five rounds at least reportedly five rounds give me your reaction to all of this news wow I will say this I'm not surprised motherfuckers given I don't say this card's cursed, but the theme we've had. I mean, this card, UFC 272 on Saturday in Las Vegas, was supposed to be Max versus Volkanovski 3 with Jan Sterling 2 as the co-main event. And then, you know, they changed that Rafael Dos Anjos, Rafael Fazeev fight night main event that was supposed to be a few weeks before to this co-main event slot. And like you said, kept it a five-round non-title bout, which is unique to itself, you know, coming off of that. Who just recently did that, Luke? Was it Nate Diaz against Leon Edwards?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Is that the one I'm thinking of? Who had just happened the first time? Yes. That's right. That was the first non-title five-round co-main, yes. So here's my reaction. I think the fight that ended up getting booked it certainly doesn't suck you know the rda versus versus this kind
Starting point is 00:18:51 of reformed moicano who's starting to answer some real questions after changing weight divisions it's a hell of a fight and you're telling me you're going to give us five rounds i mean a really good fight the other fights being mentioned, I just think were certainly sexier. Even Tony Ferguson tweeting that he was offered it and was willing, and the UFC chose not to go his direction. Suddenly, you're like, that's a last minute? Damn, that could have been something fun. I also think, obviously, Mahachev would have been hella interesting,
Starting point is 00:19:19 and I think there were some other names there. But if I can focus for one second on Islam Mahachev, tell me if I'm wrong here, Luke. I know he was the one who actually originally tweeted that he would be willing to do this. And then our RDA was like, hell yeah, let's do it. And then, you know, ultimately, and there's probably the tweet right there, if we can blow it up to look at it. Ultimately, it didn't happen. And then you had RDA kind of clowning Mahachev and saying,
Starting point is 00:19:47 look, I called this bluff and he backed down. Luke, if you're Islam Mahachev and you're riding a 10 fight win streak and you already just won a fight against Bobby Green that was supposed to be Benil Darius that you could argue, it was a week ago, by the way, and you could argue
Starting point is 00:20:03 he maybe shouldn't have even been in that spot. Like he already should have gotten a title shot. Why in the damn hell outside of the fact that this conversation only started because much I've made that tweet, why in the damn hell would you turn around on seven days in a largely meaningless fight with RDA that can, that can only, mean, like it's company man type stuff. It's tough guy type stuff. But what the hell do you gain from it? Considering one of those topics that we're going to talk about shortly, those weird Dana White on Conor McGregor comments,
Starting point is 00:20:37 like you're not guaranteed anything in terms of what you deserve. We've seen guys like Tony Ferguson, like Max Holloway go long winning streaks before they finally got that elusive title shot. You're seeing Leon Edwards go through that right now. you deserve. We've seen guys like Tony Ferguson, like Max Holloway go long winning streaks before they finally got that elusive title shot. You're seeing Leon Edwards go through that right now. Tell me this, Luke, why in the hell would he even A, start this conversation or B, you know, he doesn't seem like a guy that's motivated by money. Why would you even want to do this when you should just be sitting there and saying i i got the next title shot i've already locked it up so if it doesn't happen this is ufc screwing me over like they did uncle habiba
Starting point is 00:21:10 ufc 205 maybe he thought even though he got the win over bobby green and i'm only guessing i want to be very clear about that my only guess would be he looked at it and said if i take this one for the ufc and you know fight at 170 or whatever they would have agreed upon five rounds or otherwise I'd be doing them a solid and because he doesn't have that like a level win more recently the Dan Hooker win was nice but I mean you know obviously beating Bobby Green on short notice is not the same as Benil Dariush he might have thought I could win this do the the UFC a solid favor, and like really make it ironclad. But as
Starting point is 00:21:48 you indicate, there are so many ways where that could just go wrong, and even if you get it, you might be thinking you're doing them a favor, and you are, but how that will be repaid is very unclear. It's just worth more hassle than it is reward. I just think initially he might have been in that let's lock
Starting point is 00:22:04 this thing up kind of a gear, but I want to say something about this fight here. That's a fair angle. I just think initially he might have been in that. Let's lock this thing up kind of a gear, but I want to say something about this. That's a fair angle. That's a fair angle. Luke, I appreciate that. Okay. I just feel like I know. Listen, am I going to argue with you or anybody else
Starting point is 00:22:14 that RDA versus Makachev is a worse fight than RDA versus Anatoly Moikano? No, that would have been for the fans interests far preferable. I understand, but I've seen people being interests, far preferable, I understand. But I've seen people being like, oh, this fight's okay. Dude, this fight is great. Number one, I think I would just point out the UFC step-up culture that's got these guys doing this.
Starting point is 00:22:33 For Moicano, he has a lot to gain here, but this is a very difficult assignment under the circumstances under which he's taking it. He's trying to put wins together, not just do the UFC a solid. So under that guideline, dude, this is a big risk for him, but he has looked amazing since coming up to 155. He's got three of his four fights he's won and all three by submission. So he's putting these guys away. This is a huge challenge,
Starting point is 00:22:58 but one that he has never been more up for. And for RDA, we know he's a real talent, but he's kind of, he's done the, I think the latter stages I would say of his career if he can be the guy like Moicano it would say a lot plus these two guys are action oriented I just feel like as a replacement replacement I don't know what folks are expecting this is a great option as a replacement replacement of a replacement that was actually a replacement to a different replacement. Hell yeah, Luke, I love this fight.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And how about RDA always being about it, about it. Shout out to him. But I get what you're saying on Moikano as well. He has the opportunity to get the kind of, you know, public critical appreciation by taking this chance and putting himself in a pay-per-view co-main, which still means a lot when you are trying to get to that level for sure, both financially and pride and competition-wise. But even more, he can make a leap up those rankings with a big win here.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Did you see the actual details? I think Aaron Bronstad tweeted out of Moicano taking that 14-hour flight to Brazil to be with his family, and as soon as he touches down, goes through the phone calls of him being potentially offered the fight, accepts it right away, and then gets back on an overnight 14 hour plane ride that had two stops along the way to join, you know, mid fight week. I mean, these guys, Luke, whether the motivation, and we just laid out potential motivations for all these guys, no matter the motivation. Dude, these guys are mercenaries for hire.
Starting point is 00:24:32 You know, respect to the insensitivity that we led with the Kane shooting story, but these guys are mercenaries for hire, Luke, and I respect that as much as I'm saying, hey, Islam Macev, be a little bit more business savvy and don't give in when you don't need to. Yeah, he tantalized fans about something he seemed really interested in doing. And then I think he realized it's just not worth it in the end, which is fine. Make the rational choices as best you can, but it got fans worked up. I think that's the problem. They got them worked up for like a super high level or a super a level interest fight when
Starting point is 00:25:01 this is not that necessarily, but I would just argue for the folks who make oh Moicano Moicano every time he has stepped up previously mostly at 145 he has looked good at times but you know kind of fell short just a little bit this is what he's looking for he's looking for a big name on a big stage to finally turn that corner and if he does he's another interesting player in this division so I get i get why folks feel a little bit let down but i would just caution not to be too cynical about it there's a lot of reasons to be excited bc also on this card how dare you not lead with the real story from this card luke jessica i has pulled out of this uh manon fiero fight so uh she has apologized to the fans luke she said she had a tremendous training camp so here we go evil luke here we go
Starting point is 00:25:45 here we go uh indeed bc i want to go back to the main event for this one we've just we've talked about it at length again pre-game preview and resume review are up things have changed would you agree that the the the huge media splurge the last four or five days led by espn like that's sort of updated and or changed some of these like brother turned enemies. Let me pitch it to you. Let me pitch it to you. How would you say, how would you characterize that shift? Where are we now?
Starting point is 00:26:13 You know, we're in full on monster fight promotion mode, of course. And this matchup, which I think Luke, given the fact that two title fights fell off, I'm not even sure UFC was necessarily going in this direction for this matchup, even though it's very logical for both fighters and the promotion, but given that this pay-per-view needed, you know, a main event,
Starting point is 00:26:32 it got it. It allows both fighters, the chance to really relitigate and, and dig deep and tell the full story on, you know, how close were you really, what were those sparring sessions really like? And ultimately whose fault was it for the...
Starting point is 00:26:46 You know, all that bull... It's either bullshit to you or it's fuel for what could potentially happen in this fight. So, Luke, here's what I've learned, and it's interesting. And I think, you know, let's give Mark Ray Monday credit. He did sit-downs for ESPN with Dan Lambert, also Horry Masvidal. I really enjoyed Brett Okamoto's sit- with uh colby covington i mean good lord luke we didn't even mention rda found out that fazeev pulled out of that fight mid interview with ariel so it's been a wild ass week to begin with but in relation to this main event
Starting point is 00:27:15 i think it's worthless to like look too closely in like their reactions and i saw a lot of people saying damn look colby looks shook in that interview. And I don't know if there's an amount of money on this planet. You could pay me to sit through the seven minutes. That was Stephen a interviewing both guys at the same time. So I have no idea what happened there, Luke, and I never will,
Starting point is 00:27:37 but here's what I want to say that I didn't say on the rooftop that has come out from my observations this week. Okay. I think there's two questions has come out from my observations this week. Okay. I think there's two questions you have to ask yourself about this fight. One, because the narrative is so much in your face, you got to kind of deal with it to a certain degree. Like, who's really telling the truth? They are so 100% in opposite directions on every story about the history of their friendship and who didn't pay who
Starting point is 00:28:04 and how they fell apart and who fucked who over and who got actually invited back to ATT after being kicked out that somebody's lying so that's question one you know and question two obviously is does any of that shit really matter because obviously styles make fights in the end this is a very bad style matchup for Jorge Colby is three years younger and much more fresher and more elite. Now I say much more, you could argue that's exaggerating, but you know, we'll find out. And also Luke, both have lost to the same guy in the past two and a half years, but Covington came a lot closer in both fights. You know, there's no question about that. But I want to say this about Jorge that I didn't think heading in that I've picked up from the interviews this week. You know, none of that
Starting point is 00:28:51 might matter in the end. It could be 50-45 Colby and shut up BC. But when we see Jorge at his best, he is one of the rare athletes, fighters who doesn't just bring emotions into the game, like is fueled by them. Most guys, that's a distraction. Jorge's arguably at his very best when the trash talking is dialed up. Or Luke, when you look back at his insane 2019, when he came back from that year plus off, came out of the jungles of that reality show and vowed to baptize everyone and went on that run of three knockouts in the almost unimaginable fighter of the year honors and went from journeyman to pay-per-view headliner almost overnight dude that was emotion fueled it was a lot of like i've been in this game a long time and i've really never got the recognition or financial rewards that I deserved. And Luke, he turned his fortunes around in 2019.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And as I always say, I actually voted him number 10 pound for pound after he beat Nate Diaz that year. Because like everyone else, it's just hard not to get caught up in who the hell is this guy? But that was emotion fueled to a large degree. What's followed since 2019, you know, on paper, it's two losses to Kamaru Usman, who's arguably on his way to becoming one of the greatest of all time. And it's a horrible style matchup. So who cares? But I think Jorge really started to live that celebrity life in 2020 because he finally had the cash to kind of do what he wants and start his own liquor business, you know, all that stuff, that that's where he always wanted to be. And whether he was going to get destroyed by Usman twice or not, I think it
Starting point is 00:30:30 took some of that edge off. Now, obviously he's also 37 and we can always make the debate of, was that 2019 performance from him, like lightning in a bottle, Tim Tebow run into the playoffs that we'll never see from him again. But look, I feel like he went into that Usman first fight with that short camp, you know, really not expecting to win given the circumstances. And then of course gets a taste of how great Usman is and realizes how far they actually are apart. And then, you know, like the company above him cashes in on the rematch and, you know, his game book gets sent to the bottom depths of hell. I feel like I see that spark again in Jorge this week that I haven't seen since 2019. Now, I'm not fooled into believing that that same version is walking through that door
Starting point is 00:31:15 on Saturday. I just think I'm giving Jorge a much bigger chance than I expected coming into this week because he loves this shit. He thrives on this hatred and the, he said, he said, and all that BS where obviously he's not going to do anything unless he can get Colby into a brawl, but the foundation's being built and we'll find out more at the final presser and the, you know, weigh in face to face. I feel like that foundation, Luke is kind of talking me into saying this week, Jorge, you've won me back over.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I think the fire might be relit. Maybe for the last time, maybe he's got reason again to light it, Luke, whether you think he's fighting for his pay-per-view future or not. But that guy's back, dude, that bad guy. He's back this week. So this is what I said on the roof. You're right about one thing I just don't think anyone can really challenge, which like can we get the 2019 heroics back I don't think so I think that that was in 2019 I don't think you can get that back but that doesn't mean to me that him exceeding
Starting point is 00:32:17 uh expectations and having a raised because you know Jorge at his best is quite good you just don't know not that he's unmotivated per se but sometimes he fights down to competition sometimes he fights up sometimes he's overwhelmed but what I mean to say is the idea that he was like that there's only 2019 or nothing to me just feels like a little bit of a mixed middle ground where he could actually raise his profile one thing to think about BC here is I'm not gonna say every time but a lot of times when Colby is doing his shtick, it's one-way traffic. I mean, Tyron Woodley kind of gave it back to him,
Starting point is 00:32:49 but Tyron was on his last legs at the time, and having a hat where like, oh, make or keep racists catching a fade or whatever it was, it didn't have hardly any effect during the fight week or anything else. But here you've got a guy who is not only giving it back to him, but giving it back to him in a way where they're making claims claims about who he actually is in ways that no one else can I mean you mentioned something like who's lying I don't know who's lying but again Danny Segura talked to Paulino Hernandez the coach at the middle of this I watched the whole interview dude he's pretty
Starting point is 00:33:16 direct about it he's like yeah this whole thing this this this this he stiffed me I don't like him and that's why we're here he didn't mince words at all he didn't exaggerate for effect he was kind of soft-spoken but he just said laid it all out there so dude I feel like Jorge Masvidal is yes of course as we said a lot of this is for effect a lot of this is for money the media stuff where they're badgering each other on Stephen A Smith this is clearly designed to sell pay-per-views but the heart of it is something real and because there is something real and I think also BC Jorge as you indicated, not super young. He probably knows that big fights are going to be coming to a close
Starting point is 00:33:48 sooner rather than later. I honestly feel like I still think Colby deserves to be the favorite based on the body of work he's turned in. And you're right, 50-45, who could be surprised? But don't be surprised either if Jorge still has some magic in him. This is a semi-different scenario that Colby's entering to. And I think those differences can matter. It's rare, Luke.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's rare when handicapping a fight or taking, you know, doing these long winded rants like I just did to try to properly set the storyline and how it can affect the fight. It's rare that you go, you know, so far off base beyond the X's and O's and lean into that. But Luke, you know, you have a brother. I don't have one, but I grew up with, you know, a lot of beyond the x's and o's and lean into that but luke you know you have a brother i don't have one but i grew up with you know a lot of a lot of uh i grew up with a lot of other people who had brothers man that sounds lame as shit man right i grew up with a lot of
Starting point is 00:34:36 boys who had i know people who also have brothers you ever see a brother fight luke age size experience doesn't always come into play when there's that level of emotion and rage. And I don't really know if Colby and Jorge were like true best buds. And I don't actually, Luke, really know if this whole breakup, you know, they could have just as easily said, Hey, look, bro, we know we have, you know, a check we can cash later in our career. So let's keep this shit up, you know, a check we can cash later in our careers. So let's, let's keep the, you know, let's keep this shit up. You know, who knows Luke. Introducing the new McSpicy from McDonald's. It looks like a regular chicken sandwich,
Starting point is 00:35:13 but it's actually a spicy chicken sandwich. McSpicy, consider yourself warned. Limited time only at participating McDonald's in Canada. But Jorge's making me believe a little bit, like I mentioned, that if he can create, taking the word chaos, if he can actually create chaos again in that cage, you never know, you never know. And I think that's got me a lot more excited, even though I'm not buying in completely on some of the theatrics and the pro wrestling and all that bullshit.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I am interested to see, like, can you catch a Colby who may not have that same motivation? I mean, look, that's the thing. Because if we're going on things other than X's and O's, how about motivation? I do believe, you know, there's people that tell me, BC, you're crazy. If Jorge loses this, he could just as well headline the next pay-per-view against Conor. Yeah, okay, you're probably right there. But I do believe that Jorge seems to be fighting for much more in this fight than Colby is, Luke.
Starting point is 00:36:05 That's just what I believe. I don't think that's crazy. I really don't think that's crazy at all. And honestly, I cannot wait to see what's going to happen on Saturday. Okay, BC, we have to get to more craziness. Let's talk about this. You saw this, and I was not floored, but we knew we had to discuss it. So Dana White spoke to John Morgan.
Starting point is 00:36:23 By the way, shouts to John Morgan after a long tenure at MMA Junkie is now, it looks to me like the head guy in charge over at mixedmartialarts.com. Their forum is known as the underground. So Dana spoke to John Morgan through that. Now he was asked about Conor McGregor and he was asked about title shots and how this is all going to play out. Here is what Dana said in response to the question about whether or not Conor's going to get a title shot when he comes back.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Quote, it's going to depend on who the champion is. The champion has some say in that too. Who's going to be the champ when Conor McGregor comes back, or what do they want to do? If you look at Oliveira, right, if it's still Oliveira by the time he comes back, maybe Oliveira wants Conor. Who knows? I don't know. We'll have to see what happens.
Starting point is 00:37:04 There's a lot of variables that have to come together for him to come back and fight. Number one is health. How's his leg? Then once that's at 100%, we'll start to figure out where he goes because a lot of these, we have fights, this is key, BC, already made through June 18th already. Once he's 100%
Starting point is 00:37:20 ready to go, we'll get him figured out and we'll see what's what with the lightweight division and we'll get him figured out. BC, here's my read on this. Tell me if I'm wrong. He's not saying that Connor is necessarily the next person to get a title shot because the calendar might fill up before they can make all that work. But what he is saying is doesn't matter because by the time Connor does come back, if the champ wants it, you bubbles would be crazy to think we're not going to make it for like you know i can either quote nate or i could just tell you straight up i fucking told
Starting point is 00:37:49 you and you meaning the ethosphere and everyone who dms me all the time and says dc stop riding connor's nutsack and bringing up his name there's no freaking chance that injured washed guy coming off to you know stoppage defeats is going to get the next title shot. And like I tell them, and like I always say, Luke, good. I mean, are you kidding me? You can never put this past or underestimate the UFC. And you could also, Luke, argue separate from rankings and meritocracy, they'd be dumb not
Starting point is 00:38:20 to consider this exact same thing. But of course it's in play. And, you know, I mean, let's say all of, as much as like, that's why I'm saying with the Islam Mahachev thing, it's like, don't do them any favors, especially in where we are right now in fighter pay. And maybe some of the advances that could be coming if people are still bold, or if there's just going to be some type of fall off from Ngannou being so bold. And you can argue Adesanya seems to be very happy following that Ngannou situation. So, you know, keep posted to that. But even in this era, you know, I just don't think Islam should be giving that away.
Starting point is 00:38:57 But you see right here, why? Because they could just as hell screw you on the back end. So if Olivera beats Gaethje, you know Olivera. Everybody wants to fight Conor, especially now when he's deemed vulnerable, they'd fight him anyway, no matter what for the opportunity and the money and the, I mean, you're, you're a made man, you know? I mean, okay, Luke, let me ask you this. Can I, Luke, can I ask you something? Please. You know, the, the lifetime reputation and respect Nick Diaz has.
Starting point is 00:39:25 It's almost impeccable. Like, fans love him. But is Nick Diaz Nick? Is Nick Diaz, like, 100% a crossover name in every sports fan's mind and eyes? I can argue no. Let me flip that around and say nate diaz if he hadn't fought connor forget twice but ever in what were what two of the three biggest pay-per-views in ufc history dude he's he's what is he i don't want to say he's nothing what is he right now
Starting point is 00:39:57 what is he he's not a household name dude right i mean it's obvious it's no he's not he needed those yes so so and that's not some revelation okay b right i mean it's obvious it's no he's not he needed those yes so so and that's not some revelation okay bc that's stupid but you get the point so you know yeah man i mean i want to just hedge this a bit and be fair because i've been told shout out brandon wise and cbs sports that if you listen to the audio in the john morgan interview it's not as strong from dana as, as the pull quote would make you think. Yeah, but it's not a denunciation.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Like dude, when does like the fact that he's hedging tells you he's hedging. Right. And also look, he, he summed it up. I saw a part of his interview with Aaron Bronstetter where Dana just looked,
Starting point is 00:40:37 you know, tired and exasperated by, he was mentioning the Ukraine situation and everything going on. And he was just like, look, everyone's always asking me what's next for Connery. He's like, I don't even know what's going to happen, you know, three months from now. And I think it's just his way of saying, like, you know, you can ask me and I can answer.
Starting point is 00:40:53 But like, I don't really know. But with that said, Luke, of course they will do this. Of course, freaking course they wouldn't. It doesn't matter if Oliveira or Gaethje wins. And like, you know know we we joke back and forth i think you and i you and i and mikey more mile producer just had like a tech stream of going it's like okay here's how islam can get a title shot if only dana can convince habib to come back for one more fight and then we can guarantee islam a title shot it's like you know
Starting point is 00:41:18 the ufc of course would bend over backwards to do habib Conor too in any Foreman situation. It's the biggest selling fight in MMA history by fricking far. It's two of the greatest of all time. It's got a hatred rivalry that really at times can make John Jones and Cormier look like they're, you know, best buddies. Um, but Luke, the bet, the next best thing of that would have to be Conor McGregor stumbling back into the lightweight title and fighting unbeaten Islam Mahachev with Habib in his corner. Dude, that's the next best scenario for the UFC. Oh, hell yeah it is, Luke. Dude, it's like if you're the UFC, I don't know why you wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Who else, depending on who's champion, Justin, Charles, you name it. Who else, assuming they beat Conor, is going to be that transformative for them anywhere? Like if you are the UFC and you're looking at Conor's long-term potential, it's not super significant at this point. Obviously what he's done has been arguably the most significant, and it would be foolish to discount his chances, but I doubt his best days are ahead i doubt that right well some good days potentially but it's very like he's
Starting point is 00:42:30 going to match or exceed what he did at ufc 205 i find that very hard to believe his best days are behind him and so if you're thinking about the ufc long term either a connor being champion is great for you right that's just a fucking win or someone beating Conor is also good for you. And all of these cases, putting Conor in that mix, like there is still, however much the value equation has changed about exactly why they want to fight Conor. Yes, money, of course, has been preeminent and will remain preeminent.
Starting point is 00:42:57 But there's also a few other reasons why they want to do it. Even though some of those have shifted around in certain places, the overall picture, BC, is quite clear. It is still extremely valuable for champions to want to fight him. some of those have shifted around in certain places the overall picture bc is quite clear it is still extremely valuable for champions to want to fight him it is still extremely valuable for the ufc to want to make these fights the fans won't in in in totality certainly or even in large numbers they won't revolt so i ask whether you like these facts or whether you don't like these facts what is the mechanism by which they will be stopped
Starting point is 00:43:25 i don't see it i just don't see it yep yep that's that's just the way it is luke i think that's what bruce hornsby once said and then then they put it on a pretty badass tupac song you know what i'm saying yeah told you i played basketball with him my freshman year in college all right who to who who tupac? Bruce Hornsby. Are you serious? Dude. Yeah, he lived in Williamsburg.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yeah. Wait, wait. How do you just hide this, dude? I love me some Bruce Hornsby. I got that. I've told you this. I've told you this before. My freshman. No, it's a true story.
Starting point is 00:43:56 My freshman year, I was playing basketball at our local gym with just some friends, and he was there playing pickup basketball. We just weaved on right in. That's it. Simple as that. I didn't even know who he was at first. So can you describe his game dude i'm very into this i'm way too this was a long time ago no he played like a he was an in-shape regular old man hit a couple screens hit a couple jumps was he fundamentally crazy he was probably like yeah yeah yeah he was yes he was he was pretty good yo yo yo prince would have took
Starting point is 00:44:25 bruce orange be the whole billy ho you know what i'm saying you know you know blouses after he dunks yeah yeah why and then and then served him pancakes in that ass he served the pancakes yeah bruce orange we could ball a little bit he could ball a little bit damn what i was i was like thanks i was like i was like thanks for that mandolin rain song. It's good. I liked it. It's a great song. Every time I think, Luke, that, you know, that the limits of me being wowed by you or that our friendship or relationship could get any better, right? It's only going to get worse from here.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Like, fuck you. These moments, Luke, just remind me that, you know, we have more to mine from each other, Luke, okay? We ain't going nowhere, all right? I've lived a surprising and immensely stupid life there's a lot to talk about all right things uh that are not stupid however topic number three hamzat shemayev is probably going to take on gilbert burns again dana white telling the underground through john morgan quote it's happening now if it does happen
Starting point is 00:45:19 it is looked to be at april 9th ufc 273 pay-per-view event of course which would be in Jacksonville Florida BC we knew this was kind of coming we had heard some rumors it's been rumored out there in the public for some time not official official but something pretty close to it okay BC the significance of this fight is extraordinary because if Colby beats Jorge he is going to be in at least a good position for a title shot all things being equal however if Hamzat Chemaev wins true or false BC and let's say he wins authoritatively he's going to leapfrog Colby for the next title shot oh hell yes oh yes he will look we've had this debate before it would have been hella aggressive but I think you could and somewhat arguably should even make Tremayev Usman right now
Starting point is 00:46:07 because what we don't know about this guy is just so damn sexy that finding it out at that level would be wild. Look, it could also break a guy. And, you know, we've seen guys get get rushed too quickly or get up, you know, but I don't think anything's going to break Tremayev. And oh, by the way, Luke, you know, I i mean i've never really been a monster darren till fan i've been spending most of my on-air career telling you how overrated he is this brotherhood between chamayev and till that's coming out through social media isn't that like heartwarming i don't follow either on social
Starting point is 00:46:39 but i did see the videos of them training together dude it can only be good for darren till i think mixing it up and getting some you know intense energy like that guy brings to the training room that that's what he needs I think a little bit right now when Till comes out and says I see so much of myself in him you know I love that like you know it transcends cultures and language and like you know like it's like you and I look we come from opposite ends of the journalism tracks yet you put us together and we find out we got a lot of the same similarities that drive us. You know what I'm saying? The packaging is a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:47:11 But, you know, I love seeing this. So back to the significance of this fight. Yeah, dude, to me, this is and we, you know, we thought this could take different forms. Like who is Jemaiah finally going to fight to show us whether the hype is really real? There were a lot of names floated around and dates, and we had to wait a long time to get to this point with the bad COVID run that Shamayev had and all that. But Gilbert Burns is the right opponent to give us these answers.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And yes, this is the proving ground that somebody this uniquely special, and we've had bright prospects before i mean you remember when john jones was you know three went ufc wins in and you were getting people saying like dude this guy really might have like greatest of all time future potential maybe one day like there were some flashes of that but i can't remember this organically where somebody went from i've never heard of this guy to you know what he did in 2020 and now like me making some stupid argument that he should be fighting for the title now i can't wait the the theater potential of what jamiah burns offers just from that is this mother effer for real like show us bro because you might be so real that you may
Starting point is 00:48:23 finish gilbert Burns in a minute and a half like we have no freaking idea here I can't wait to find out yeah I mean this is the part about Gilbert Burns that I love first of all Gilbert Burns might go in there and just remind everyone hello I'm Gilbert Burns and yeah I think you all forgot what I'm capable of that is certainly dropped Usman we always forget about him he rocked him he rocked him he rocked him he didn't drop him but he certainly rocked him and also just like he is a legitimate not just a guy who has a black belt at like the purple belt or something like in the black belt division a real world champion crossing over we know about his striking we know he's in the right weight class now we know about his wrestling I mean the
Starting point is 00:48:58 thing about Gilbert is that he's the perfect opponent for Tremaya because if he loses it's like no harm no foul you still have some work to do if you win, you are beating a guy who I'm not going to say any fighter is perfect or has fully mastered everything in MMA, but guy who has championship level experience, elite jujitsu, very good wrestling, certainly very good striking at this point too. Good cardio, good camp. You can't beat a guy who has as thoroughly, you can always be, I mean, he's not the most talented guy. What I'm saying is it's rare for a prospect who is surging to get an opponent where beating him tells you almost everything you need to know, something you would ordinarily need
Starting point is 00:49:36 to get BC through the case of multiple fight experiences. Like how do they work against this guy or then against that guy or against that guy? You beat Gilbert Burns. You answer a lot of those questions in one fell swoop. I don't know what happens after that, but I know that any lingering doubts about Shemayev, should that happen, would probably evaporate instantly at that point. Well, look, would you say that this is the most hyped? I mean, Aaron Pico had a hype level coming into his pro debut that was huge but i
Starting point is 00:50:05 mean like i mentioned people people made whispers about john jones very early but i'm not sure we all had like that 100 like confidence that no matter what he's just going to go out there and beat hall of famer after hall of famer after hall of famer and win the title and be who he is now the greatest fighter i've ever seen more more or less i mean you know there's arguments to be made but more or less the goat um can you compare this this hamzat meteor it's like bo jackson dude what like what have we seen mma wise recently that compares to this i mean johnny walker but not even johnny walker the The scent coming from Johnny Walker wasn't this legitimate, Luke. No, this is like, it's got, it's like a mix of Habib with, this is not quite right, but I mean, just the quickness with which people are asking him to be in these huge fights.
Starting point is 00:51:03 It's like Habib mixed with the push behind Brock Lesnar almost. I mean, that's quite right. Because he had this huge popularity base before ever coming here. But what I mean to say was after. And he lost his first fight against Mir. But what I mean to say was once he began to right the ship. It was like this meteor headed right for the top of the division. Granted it was Randy Couture at the time. The comparison falls apart. I'm just trying to say Habib had this kind of slow-ish roll.
Starting point is 00:51:21 All these guys you mentioned had this slow-ish roll. I'm trying to think of someone who had this quick roll, but then had all of the game behind it. In many ways, it is entirely unique. I'm not really sure what the antecedent to this would be, quite frankly. Anyway. And I'm smitten with Chimaev. His persona,
Starting point is 00:51:38 his confidence mixed with cockiness, it's pretty addictive, Luke. It's hard addictive luke you know it's hard to hate well really it's hard to hate he wants it he wants all that smoke look he wants to move in with cypress hill and have that smoke backpack thing put around his face with the torch he wants all of it luke listen until he wants to stand inside of a life-size bong i don't believe that but i know what you mean all right you're like let's move on hold on let me finish this we got we got to move along we got to move
Starting point is 00:52:08 before i make this joke all right look i'm you know look on a second by second basis i'm trying to entertain as much as i can all right don't don't neuter me okay i know i know i know i'm not trying to all right topic number four and this will kick off in three minutes so Errol Spence Jr. I think I can get to this now we all knew was going to fight your Dennis Ugas it is going to be on Showtime pay-per-view I want to say in just minutes and if you look in the description box below there is a link to watch it if you would like the official kickoff for the press conference Errol Spence Jr. take it on your Dennis Ugas It's going to be on Showtime pay-per-view. The presser today is at Jerry's World in Dallas, B.C.
Starting point is 00:52:51 What is the number one reason for folks to care about Errol Spence Jr. versus your Dennis Ugas? The number one reason. And also quickly, Jerry Jones that you mentioned, he'll be part of this press conference as well. Look, number one reason is the significance of the fight. Let's be really fair. Sorry, April 16th.
Starting point is 00:53:12 April 16th. April 16th, AT&T Cowboy Stadium there. The significance of the fight. What is welterweight? It's the sexy division. It's the one that's carried the sport on a pay-per-view level through heavyweights, ups and downs in recent eras.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And this is for three of the four world titles. That's number one. No question about it. It's getting us closer to finding out who is not only the best welterweight in the world, but once we find that answer out, that answer will simultaneously be who's the best welterweight of this era. And in the post, you know, Manny Floyd welterweight era, it's a pretty big deal. But one B to that, to that, what's most important, Luke, the, the, the subhead to that
Starting point is 00:53:55 is, is Errol Spence still the same guy? And like, you, you don't have to like, I'm not being critical here. I'm not being cynical. Like, I'm the biggest Errol Spence Jr. fan in terms of his game as anyone. I've been flip-flopping the who would win between him and Terrence Crawford debate for years because I believe Spence is this good, despite some of those outside the ring things that are now piling up, you know, question-wise. I don't think we question anymore Spence's focus or his commitment or whether he's cleaned up some of those outside the ring things and let's remember you know he was more than lucky miraculous to walk away from that that you know drunk driving crash with with nothing basically after getting
Starting point is 00:54:37 thrown from his vehicle but now he's in his early 30s he's had another year-long layoff he had to pull out of that manny pay-per-view because of the detached retina. So that's now something potentially legitimately physically compromising mixed with the fact that he walked away from this horrific crash that knocked out his teeth and, you know, banged him up a little bit. You do wonder, Luke, if Errol Spence Jr. is not, you know, 90% of what makes him great, you're damn right this is a trap fight because your Dennis Ugas is that good whether we get the best Spence or not. He is in this fight. He is underrated. The performance he put on Pacquiao on the last minute was exactly
Starting point is 00:55:20 what makes him the black, not the black sheep the the sort of like the guy you're going to overlook but the guy who may end up surprising everyone can he beat the very best of Errol Spence I don't know I'd question that a little but is the very best of Errol Spence still able to walk through that door April 16th Luke from a tactical perspective one of the things that a guy like Spence does extremely well, by the way, a second, all of your analysis, all of the stuff that's happened to Spence makes this question.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Can he be the very best of what we've seen? Moreover, what I would add is that a lot of the offense of what Spence tries, he is a diligent, thorough, consistent jab. He really lives and dies behind it. But, man, he lives behind that jab.
Starting point is 00:56:08 That jab is critical to everything he does. And your Dennis Ugas has a phenomenal ability to counter opponents who have a great and consistent jab. He has excellent jab defense and then offense off of that defense. So not only are the things that BC is saying quite correct about what we don't know, actually, about Errol Spence Jr., there is you add another layer of complexity to what Ugas offers as an opponent,
Starting point is 00:56:32 and man, I got to tell you, you're right, BC, if we had real confidence we would get the very best of Errol Spence Jr., I'd say this is a tough fight but a winnable one for Spence. But given that we don't know, and how Ugas seemingly has developed these very important skills dude this is a very very very competitive fight and I cannot wait to see what Errol Spence Jr. does one quick question to you if Spence goes in there and shows us elite Spence does that meaningfully add to the pressure behind Bud Crawford to sign with PBC?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yes. I think that firmly points it back to Bud Crawford and says, look, what are you after at the end of the day? Because PBC, Al Heyman, and Errol Spence would have the leverage financially to say, look, we've been arguing for years and we never made this fight. And some of that argument was the purse split. Although to be fair, Luke, I never felt like either network or promoter really went all the way in trying to secure that fight. And the reason why is because when you start to talk, the demands on both sides were no, I'm the A side. I'm the guy that gets the larger split. You know, did, did they ever come together and figure out a 50, 50 deal? I don't believe they ever did together and figure out a 50-50 deal? I don't believe they ever did.
Starting point is 00:57:51 So if your team spends, dude, you'd have the ability to hold that leverage firm. And you'd be basically saying, Terrence Crawford, you know, you're not getting any younger either. What are you, 34 about to turn 35? This is the window to make this and not ruin it. I mean, you have to realize, Luke, did Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather come five to five and a half years too late? Yes, but they were still number one and two pound for pound at the time, even though they were 38 and 36. And even with Manny's shoulder injury,
Starting point is 00:58:16 however deep you want to believe that affected him, it wasn't the action fight we probably would have got five years earlier, but we did get questions answered. And that was not a washed Manny Pacquiao. Right. So you don't want to take a chance of botching this. So you're basically saying, hey, hey, bud, what does it mean to you to take less, to make it happen, to to to fulfill your legacy and cement it? And because, look, I'm going to be honest with you, Luke, If Terrence Crawford does not go to the PBC, he doesn't have options. Eddie Hearn already said, look, we're not going to just overpay him
Starting point is 00:58:48 to try to have the same problems Top Rank did. Could he end up fighting Virgil Ortiz Jr. from the Golden Boy side? I mean, that'd be great, but that's still a one-off with no real gain for Bud. Could he go back to Top Rank and fight a Josh Taylor or Teofimo rising? Well, maybe, but you also just sued Bob Arum and called him a racist. So, yeah, Luke, that is – because I was going to ask you that same question. I was going to say we all know we want and deserve Crawford to be next for the winner regardless if it's Spencer Ugas. But knowing the business reality, if it ends up being Keith Thurman against the winner does that move
Starting point is 00:59:25 you does that get you excited because it's yes it still gets me it still matters to me Luke okay no no don't get me wrong Keith Thurman I thought looked really good all things considered in his last fight I mean not a perfect fight last six weren't as good as the first six but he looked to be in phenomenal shape and hey that was what two fights in five years or something like all things being equal I thought that was pretty good so sure winner of this one taking on Keith Thurman I'm not going to complain about that at all I'm just saying it's like dude at this point at this point with Spence and Crawford not being made and really I would say the onus is more on Crawford given the contractual realities of the present moment you could go back and forth and say the blame goes in different directions
Starting point is 01:00:05 from previous points. But at this stage, it's like, yes, of course. But if Spence versus Crawford is not made within this year, it's like, I mean, you could probably say this already now, but it's like, dude, there's no real good reason why it hasn't been made. There are reasons. I'm not sure any of them are all that good. If there was real interest in the power brokers to make this fight, it would be made. It just seems kind of silly at this point. So everything else, Spence, Ugas, this is actually the best fight for Spence to come back to in a sense, right? Because he has been off for some time and Ugas is a real tricky opponent with the particular kinds of things that he does. Spence beats that, you know, okay, man,
Starting point is 01:00:46 this guy is still ready for the very best of that division. Thurman has been interesting too. I would love to see it. I'm just saying, who could say they love that more than Crawford? I don't know what you could say to that. Some of that is, of course, the wounded, jaded boxing fan in me who's saying, you know, forget getting what you want. Sometimes we don't get it at all.
Starting point is 01:01:05 So if I can get a Thurman pay-per-view, of course, I'm going to be fired up and excited. And by the way, that's a, you know, and it's an answer we never really got. Like, we don't think Keith Thurman is the same. Keith Thurman, although credit to him for coming back and winning, but still Spence Thurman is a fight I always wanted to see the answer to. I always wanted to see what that looked like. So, you know, I'd love to see that, but quickly on Ugas in closing, if you have no idea who this guy is, so he's from Cuba. So, you know, he has that pure amateur pedigree, but Luke, he's a lot bigger. He's very big for this weight class, very long arms. So he hides behind a high guard. And I think almost like a, think about a Winky
Starting point is 01:01:38 Wright, although he was a Southpaw, Winky Wright with those long arms and that responsible guard was really able to close distance without giving up too much of his strike zone to be countered and and start to weigh on you and even though we don't look at ugas ugas in spirit as a puncher as a knockout guy his ability to use that size and technique to get close to you and kind of body you like he did manny and then put together the smart combinations and counters. He's pretty damn unique, Luke, in terms of what he does. So if you want to know who he beat, it's more of who he should have beat.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I thought he beat Sean Porter. I thought he got screwed by Jack Reese on that knockdown in the 12th round that wasn't called. And that would have given Spence, I'm sorry, Ugas, a split decision win over Sean Porter. And that's the version of Porter, by the way, who his next fight fought Spence for 12 rounds and lost by split decision in the fight of the year. So, you know, that shows you what Ugas has.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Yeah, and then the, yes, and then one more last reminder on this before we switch to quick hitters. That presser, go right now. There's a link in the description box below. If you want to check that out, you can do dual screens or however there's a link in the description box below if you want to check that out you can do dual screens or however you want to bookmark it for later if you want to keep watching the show but the the stream for ugas or spencer versus spence excuse me junior versus ugas it is uh already there go check that out okay bc last but not least we go to quick
Starting point is 01:02:59 hitters i love this announcement valentina shevchenko is going to take on Tyla Santos at UFC 275. Tyla Santos, BC. This, of course, would be a women's flyweight title fight. 19-1. She does have one loss to, I think, the now-exiled Mara Romero-Barella. Yes, Mara Romero-Barella from Italy. That's the one loss she has.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Now, she does have some vulnerabilities when it comes to takedown defense or getting up off the bottom. It's not her very best work. So I would expect Shevchenko to pursue that. We even saw in the Jillian Robertson fight, although Robertson was pulling guard. It's not her best area for work. On the feet, though, she's a hammer. Great counterstriker, very good athlete. Dude, 19-1 BC, you don't get there by accident. How sized are you in the words of DC parlance for this contest? Look, I'm, I'm very excited that you're excited about this because, you know, sharing the news in the CBS slack.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Yeah. Brandon wise, my boy, I'm calling you out here. I didn't get the same, um, genial or is it genital reaction that I was looking for? Luke, I love this fight, but why do I love this fight? Mostly because this, this division is a shoebox full of shit, Luke. To be respectful, it is, Luke. There ain't nobody to challenge Valentino. When we thought we had somebody in Jessica Andrade,
Starting point is 01:04:16 holy shit, Luke. And now, look, obviously Jennifer Maya did well in certain respects, but still had the same result in the end. This is at least somebody who's in, you know, 28 and riding a four fight win streak and seems to be, Luke, tell me if I'm wrong. At the very least, Talia Santos, however, I can butcher that, seems to have a brighter ceiling to do something big in a fight that you didn't expect that was lacking from pretty much every Shevchenko
Starting point is 01:04:45 title defense not named Andrade up to this point like you know Chukagin's okay and there was I and there was all these others but you didn't think there's a chance in hell they're gonna finish the champ or dominantly win five rounds right there's at least something to Santos where I'm like oh let's see how how Valentina messes with this. You know, listen, do I think that Santos is going to be the person to unseat Shevchenko? I guess I would say that I don't. I don't see that necessarily. But BC, how many times do we have to go through it?
Starting point is 01:05:16 In the case of last week where we have Garcia upsetting Colbert, in the case of Catterall not upsetting Taylor, but probably should have to, And those were mandatory challenges. In the women's flyweight division, it often feels like these are mandatory challenges. These are not people that are necessarily wowing you along the way, but they're doing just enough to put themselves in a position to get it. And I say it all the time. The hardest thing to do in MMA is have a weight class title, typically a UFC one,
Starting point is 01:05:40 and just take on all the different contenders that want to crack at you. It's a very difficult thing to have that be their biggest night and this just another routine obligation you have to go through these these uh upsets these mistakes so to speak these things you don't see coming they happen all the time or at least they get threatened all the time it is worth not dismissing tyla santos while recognizing shevchenko was also not here by accident i i'm looking forward to it. I find these fights to be sometimes the most illuminating ones, BC, if I can be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Luke, is it fair to say that until, I can't think of, who's the UFC fighter that won tough and is a wrestler and hasn't fought in a crazy long time because she's been injured and has now moved up to the stage? Oh, I can see. She beat Nunes. Oh, I can see she beat. I spent the last minute unable to find this in my brain. OK, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yes, I'll find it. I. Yeah, sorry. She has a. I mean, we're straight up. I mean, we're the we're the worst people in America right now. So to try to sit here and just, you know, looks like, you know, should I look it up or just vape again? That's really where we're at right now. to try to sit here and just you know way um looks like you know should i look it up or just vape again that's really where we're at right now luke um to be fair um i you know i still don't
Starting point is 01:06:50 have it she has the she god what is her name we are old and pathetic you know she's great she's a great fighter no seriously she's got plus side potential to do something in a shevchenko fight you know so memorable i can't pull the name g Gaff, can you save us? I mean, we're just hanging out here. Yes, she has a Latin name, I forgot, and she's a wrestler and her neck is all messed up. Her neck is all messed up. And there's a piece of wood hanging off of a rock from
Starting point is 01:07:16 the cliff, and we're hanging on that by a piece of fabric. Who is it? I've actually interviewed her a dozen times, and now my shitty, shitty memory doesn't even work. I've actually interviewed her like a dozen times. And now I buy shitty, shitty memory. Doesn't even work. I mean, she's basically a BBL. Look, come on.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I mean, seriously, dude, this is pathetic. I'm trying to find. I really. Tatiana Suarez. That's who it is. Tatiana Suarez. That's Tatiana Suarez. Finally came back to me.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Wow. You know, Luke, is it possible to just edit out the last like three minutes of talking? And we'll, you know, that's is it possible to just edit out the last, like, three minutes of talking and we'll, you know. That's the most authentic portion of this show. I recommend keeping it in for transparency's sake. Okay. Well, Luke, with the exception. We've got to move on, though.
Starting point is 01:07:51 We've got to move on. Hold on. Hold on. With the exception of Talia Santos, is there anyone in the top 15, whether it's even a couple years away, that has that same feeling, that you're like, okay, I'd at least like to see her against Shevchenko? Is it Macy Barber? Is it Aaron Blanchfield?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Is it Manon Farrow? Is it Casey O'Neal? Do Alexa Grasso? Do any of those, you know, where you're like, okay, they're still getting finished in the first round tomorrow, but give me a couple of years. Against Shevchenko.
Starting point is 01:08:24 No, but that doesn't mean anything. You know, we could see how things go. But no, to answer your question, no. Okay, okay. So this is the best. Our work here is done, Luke. All right, that's great. All right, let's talk about this.
Starting point is 01:08:35 You spoke to Ryan Garcia fresh off of leaving Eddie Reynoso. For folks who may not know, that is the head trainer of Canelo, the Canelo fight team. He has decided to go a different way, although he has a new fight coming up. You spoke to him, BC.
Starting point is 01:08:46 What did you discuss? Yeah, so here's the deal on this. Ryan Garcia is going to be back after a 15-month layoff. It's going to be April 9th. He's going to fight Emmanuel Togo from Akragana. Nobody really knows that name, but then you go, oh, he's 32-1 from Akragana. He's going to be tough as nails. But Ryan Garcia has had not only wrist injuries that has delayed him, but Luke, of course, he pulled out of that JoJo Diaz fight last summer
Starting point is 01:09:07 with mental health issues. He's gone on to say he did contemplate suicide. So there's a lot going on in the life of Ryan Garcia. And then you add in that last month he left Team Canelo, added Joe Goosen as a trainer. And in the past few days, Luke, there had been a little bit of back and forth. Canelo did an interview with Ellie Secback, and he sort of openly questioned again Ryan Garcia's work ethic when sort of pressed on saying, you know, why did it not go wrong? Right. With with Ryan and Eddie Reynoso, your trainer and manager.
Starting point is 01:09:37 And it was a repeat, Luke. Don't forget that ahead of the Canelo Caleb Plant fight, you know, Canelo straight up said he's wasting his career. I don't think he works hard enough, blah, blah, blah. So Ryan didn't like that. Can we throw to the tweets real quick here, Gaff? A couple of responses. And I think the key response in this four or five tweet thing here
Starting point is 01:09:59 explaining Ryan Garcia is essentially explaining that other fighters had issues with Eddie. And Gaff, if we can go to the next one, there's sort of a cryptic thing in here. The truth also is that it's not even the main reason I left deciders to part ways. Canelo knows why I'm just going to keep it to myself and focus on the fight I have. So there's something there, Luke, something, I don't know if it's money, but there's something there. I had Oscar de la Hoya on yesterday. You can watch that interview this week on YouTube.com slash Morning Combat. He had this wacky idea that Ryan Garcia is going to one day fight Canelo at 165 pounds
Starting point is 01:10:32 and they're going to settle the beef. So all this set up, Luke, I talked to Ryan Garcia. Here's the result. I mean, I kind of already addressed it on Twitter, right? We kind of just got to speak the facts and get on with it. You know, I'm ready to fight April 9th. You know, this whole would pretend be, there's no beef here. I have nothing but respect for Canelo.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I just, I can't let somebody talk about my worth ethic when it's definitely not true. I'm a hard worker and I've always been that. And I'm just going to speak facts to them. I'm not going to beef with them. I'm just going to say, you know what the deal is and that's it. Move forward. Okay. So then I say, you know, to close here, Luke, then what the hell is that real reason you're talking about? And I believe, Gaff, tell me if I'm wrong, we've got one more piece of business to throw to. You teased on social media that there was a reason that you haven't shared publicly as to why you switched trainers. You said, Canelo, you know that reason.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Ryan, what is that reason? Next question, please. All right, let's close with this then, this then rag i can't wait for this return but we got oscar in here saying he wants you to fight canelo at 165 pounds one day is that him talking or you talking uh april 9th i'm beating tegaau's ass. Just know that. Luke, you know, that wasn't the, you know, was that the most non-lame way you can manly address a question? No, that was pretty lame, Luke.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I mean, I don't know who that was in the background yelling next question. Whenever they do that, whenever they would do that on the radio, I would just hang up on them. I don't play that game. Dude, that ain't the shit we need to hear from ryan garcia ahead here luke quickly quickly here is there anything to this from oscar's comments to canelo questioning his work ethic what are you what is your confidence level for ryan garcia you know as as a put together brand coming back after these crazy 15 months we'll have to discuss that at a next time as we move through quick hitters quickly bc there we go good good work on that all right bc dillian white you're really speaking of no showing wow speaking of no showing come on dude we're we're way over time all right way over time
Starting point is 01:12:57 stay tuned for extra credit with bc after this show where we uh yes yes i encourage you okay dillian white no shows at the first press conference bc as i understand it as you make jack off motions and get all bitter at me even though we agreed to move through this quickly bc that's what i said i said quickly luke can i get quickly can we get your take on uh you know an important on garcia the whole thing i would say this he's taking an opponent he's taking an opponent that is quite manageable which is probably the right thing to do coming back. But I think your general tenor of being a little bit uneasy about all of this, I think, is quite right.
Starting point is 01:13:31 It's the same one I get. You're like, well, he could go right back to where he was. But I don't know. I need to see how he looks. But this one fight just won't tell us anything other than if he's really bad. Does that make sense? Like, if he's okay, he'll win this. If he's really bad, then he won't.
Starting point is 01:13:49 But even if he wins, it doesn't give us enough information to make a broader conclusion. And then he'll move up 30 pounds and fight Canelo to settle Oscar's beef, right? That part is silly. That part is silly. All right. In all seriousness, Dillian White, BC, no-shows his first fight with Tyson Fury at the press conference. Is it my understanding, BC, that he felt like he wasn't getting cut in on extra money from the pay-per-view,
Starting point is 01:14:14 and so because of that, he doesn't feel like he has to do paid promotion. Is that accurate? He's doing the old Nick Diaz, basically. There's been a split reaction here. Well, I won't say split. Most of it is people saying, come on, Dillian White. Like, what the F? This is your job, and aren't you getting paid a career high eight million in this fight after that you know wild perspid uh yeah all that that is true so is this unprofessional luke of
Starting point is 01:14:35 course but he did pull a uh lithuanian exit like we like to say luke jokingly uh of at least telling ahead of time yeah i'm not coming i'm not going to help promote this because you guys aren't cutting me into the pay-per-view. He's not getting any extras beyond his base salary. So look, top ranks the lead promoter here because Frank Warren put that ridiculously large bid. So they have the A side and they also have the champion, by the way. So Luke, it kind of is what it is,
Starting point is 01:15:03 but there is precedence here. Dillian White in the past did the same thing to Eddie Hearn. He walked out of a press conference and basically said, you're not paying me enough for me to promote this fight for you. So I think it's part of what makes him dangerous, Dillian White, to play the villain role. And credit to Tyson Fury for having the personality to pull it off without him. But Luke, whether you think Fury's going to mop him up or not, we fight April 23rd like there's a fight dude I'm fired up for this I'm fired up for this too I just feel like doing this kind of thing is gonna have Tyson Fury eat you alive even before the fight starts he's gonna feed off of this and maybe it is weakness maybe it's not but he's gonna
Starting point is 01:15:41 turn it into weakness and then bang dillian white over the head with it until april 23rd in which case he's just gonna bang him in the face well that sounds kind of weird but you know what i'm saying um but yes looks like kind of sounds like my search history actually to be fair hang in face uh there you go uh bc you saw this one i had so after you sent it i had seen it kayla harrison boy, she had no time for Chris Cyborg on Twitter yesterday. Let's see the tweet up there. Yeah, there was a tweet. I think.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Yeah, I think the tweet was originally from Ariel saying that I guess Bellator had matched PFL. So let me set the stage. Okay, set the stage, set the stage. So like you just said, something I don't think was reported that Bellator MMA came to the table, apparently in a big way with an offer. Ariel reported that and said that not only did PFL match it, but that it appears that Kayla is headed toward resigning with them. But Luke, Kayla would go on right after that to tweet out how frustrated she was of the
Starting point is 01:16:37 whole situation. And then came this tweet at Cyborg where she's basically like, meet me in Temecula. She's like, here's the gym address for ATT like come down and fight me now um Luke what does that tell you in relation to to how these this deal situation may have fallen apart to her liking it seems I think she wanted to go elsewhere and I think she's frustrated that she is not going to end up elsewhere whether it was UFC or in this case now Bellator made an offer and so the the way it works is if Bellator makes an offer we've seen this previously with Eddie Alvarez and and Gilbert
Starting point is 01:17:16 Melendez and all that when when Gilbert Melendez was given an offer by Bellator what ended up happening was actually good for the fighters in the sense that you get the most contractually, but there are going to be stipulations and fighters contracts that say, okay, that other person, that other entity can make an offer, but we have a certain amount of window, which if we match that offer, we get to retain your services. Apparently to the letter, PFL matched the offer. So Bellator can't do anything about that unless they, I guess, offer a new offer, which I don't know if they will so it looks like she's headed back to pfl i think there's frustration i think there's frustration about that she's making good money and she is certainly getting you know dominant victories but i think
Starting point is 01:17:54 she was looking for a new gear and i don't know if this new pfl contract well it might be financially lucrative is going to provide that luke does the the ESPN situation with UFC being the MMA face of the channel by far, and although PFL has a very good TV deal, it seems, and they do get prime placement on ESPN2 and the app and all that, they're still the junior player. How much does that factor into the idea? Because if you're frustrated, you just go, okay, well, how about we do this?
Starting point is 01:18:23 How about it's not about titles? How about Bellator and PFL get together, they sign a two-fight pay-per-view series, frustrated to just go okay well how about we do this how about it's not about titles how about bellator and pfl get together they sign a two-fight pay-per-view series and either let each other promote one and one or we come together for a dual pay-per-view is that impossible because of the ufc espn situation it's not impossible but what i would say is this is the problem with kayla kayla's trying to get to a scenario where she has enough fame and leverage to force, if not that situation, just force the promoters
Starting point is 01:18:50 to bend to her will a little bit more. But she needs to get bigger name opponents and more clout, so to speak. I'm not using that word in the pejorative sense, but I just mean the amount of sway that she has over these matters. She needs bigger fights and bigger leverage to do that,
Starting point is 01:19:07 but she can't do that because she's still stuck in this situation. So I take your point, but she's not. Connor could do something like that, or even Nate could do something like that if he was playing in this space. Not her, unfortunately. Not yet, anyway. BC, this is... Okay, we're rolling on. I was just going to say, Are there enough fighters in Bellator beyond Cyborg
Starting point is 01:19:29 that could make that deal actually work for Kayla to fight? For pay-per-view? No. For Kayla to join Bellator on a massive free agent signing. No. If they had Cyborg and another name, maybe. Not right as it stands. Yeah, they don't even have Julia Budd.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Yeah, they don't even have Julia Budd anymore. Yeah, exactly, exactly. All right, BC, you'll love this one. The king of Connecticut, I know you love this guy, Glover Teixeira. He is still going to fight Yuri Prochocka. This is a small note, but they're going to move it to UFC 275. Let me get the date on this before I may any reaction to this it's not the biggest news in the world no I freaking love the fight yeah that's cool let's
Starting point is 01:20:11 do it Luke uh that will be June 11th at a TBD location we don't have that yet also on that card BC is supposed to be the Valentina Shevchenko Tyler Santos but we'll have to see and then there you go June 11th is the one that's supposed to be. And last but not least, BC, this is for you. Amanda Hibas versus Michelle Watterson, which I think was originally scheduled for some time ago, has been rescheduled for UFC 274. BC, why do you love this fight so much?
Starting point is 01:20:39 Because I know you do. I mean, you know, are we doing a Patreon show to talk about this fight, Luke? I mean, what are you trying to do to me? No, I'm kidding. No, I do love this fight for all the genuine, legitimate reasons. Fire it up for it. Thank you. Hopefully, Mr. Ibaaz can get a tat on the other arm after this win, too, as well.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Yeah, thank you. This will be May 7th. I don't know if we have a location for this one yet either, but this will be the Oliveira-Gaethje card. So that should be a ton of fun. A lot of women's fights on this card already, by the way. So be on the lookout for that. Okay, BC, that is it for the fast, quick
Starting point is 01:21:13 hitters. It is time for fan subs. Yeah, morning combat at gmail.com is the preferred email for Wednesday's fan subs. Friday's dead wrongs. Usually it's pictures of you guys wearing off-sized MK shirts, but sometimes you make us laugh too.
Starting point is 01:21:30 It's called fan submission. We've got mail. Okay, yeah, great. We only have a few of them this week, Luke, so that should entice the haters to stick around. Alfonso says, how to make up the mistaken MK with some real merch. This fanny pack is legit.
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Starting point is 01:22:01 Brian won't get that one. Hands down, Marine and Navy women crush the other services. Luke, this guy's talking about some government BBL here. Is he on point with this? He is not on point whatsoever. I made it a point to absolutely never date inside the military ever. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:22:24 You're not going to ride that train luke at all i'm just gonna not say i'm going to just like i'm going to work around it and say doesn't work for me i'll put it that way okay all right hey shout out to alfonso for buying our merch just the same that fanny pack just the same don't let any of your friends tell you it looks bad that fanny pack looks manly on you uh danger mouse is here and says uh last week luke said he didn't remember the people who sent in this stuff well these memes are 10 luck 20 skill 15 concentrated power of will five percent pleasure 50 pain and 100 reason to remember the name danger mouse and if you wrap that bc i'll be impressed
Starting point is 01:23:07 man i should have wrapped that shit luke he did lincoln park lyrics to me eating ramen noodles what am i missing here i don't know is that yeah that's fair luke one day that is fair one day that yeah well you know they didn't yeah yeah okay next one aurora borealis aurora borealis bc under pressure from luke while discussing it's fair it's not wrong oh wait aurora borealis areola borealis very good that's actually very very good that's very funny and luke has has Conan the Destroyer. I mean, it never gets old. That's good Photoshop, BC. That's good photo.
Starting point is 01:23:48 That looks very accurate. Yeah, it looks real. Same skin tone, too. And finally, from Danger Mouse, Luke. All right. All right. Thank you, sir. Are you, you know.
Starting point is 01:23:58 I don't know if I'm going to remember the name. That's not Red Sonja, because that was a different movie. But what was her name in the movie? I don't remember, Luke. Who was the strawweight who could wrestle? Tatiana Suarez. All right. So he claims, Luke, that that ramen was you overdoing the gummies.
Starting point is 01:24:22 All right. Well, that's terrible. I mean, this segment is worthless. I mean, this is why they say we should get i mean this segment is worthless i mean this is why we they say we should get rid of this segment all right uh uh what's this man's name i don't want to say a ethnic slur what's this guy's name uh he says uh chris rock once said as a father you have one job to do keep your daughter off the pole in our mk Universe rooftop diaries aside, co-hosts have one job to do. Keep BC off the pole.
Starting point is 01:24:50 I know you guys were disappointed there was no X-rated viewing across the way like last time. But good Lord, gents, this is not the answer. BC making rooftop pole riding look easy. Amazing content, blah, blah, blah. It's JP. It's not Jap, Glaf it's jp from mount unike nova scotia luke okay all right this is a this is great this is an open mic night right here this is turning to open mic night it really is the worst yeah yeah it's like oh all right bro
Starting point is 01:25:21 how about the airline food, huh? Wes says, no, Corpse Grinder isn't the app that Luke searches when he reaches the darkest corners of the internet from subpar McDonald's Wi-Fi COVID-filled hotel rooms. Corpse Grinder is the best neck in the game. That's true. Singer-songwriter of lt's childhood trauma and today's visual guide of bc's emotions while watching adesanya whitaker too thanks for giving us that sweet content p.s gas station dogs don't win brian's livers lost oh that's this is this is the lead singer
Starting point is 01:26:03 of cannibal corpse his name is name is Corpse Grinder. And I gotta say, BC, first of all, respect that neck. I mean, just look at that thing. Number two, do you like the goat whore t-shirt? Luke, I like, I mean, outside of the charity he does in his free time and that you claim he's a great dad, I want nothing
Starting point is 01:26:22 to do with this band, Luke. I mean, what is in that band's neck? What about the other band he's pimping dad. I want nothing to do with this band, Luke. I mean, what is in that band's mouth? What about the other band he's pimping there, Cancer Slug? You know, how do you openly support this, Luke? You know? Because it's fucking great? Very easily. I hope W. Kamau Bell ends up doing a hard-hitting documentary
Starting point is 01:26:42 on Cannibal Corpse fans, Luke. I hope that next. I hope that's the next one. I'll be day one. Day one on that thing. Like Cosby supporters, Luke, you do have to ask yourself, am I going to separate the art from the artist, Luke?
Starting point is 01:26:56 Yes. In this case, you can. Long live Corpse Grinder. Fuck your life. Open mic continues. Michael says, Great show on Monday, guys. I appreciate the daring new format and suggested it be applied whenever BC talks about boxing.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Gaethje versus Habib or Adesanya Whitaker 2. At a time when the world seems to be coming to an end and Ukrainians are demonstrating what can be achieved under even the most challenging conditions, it's refreshing that morning combat stays the same. Yeah, Luke. Yeah. I mean, you know, what do you want me to say to that, Luke? Fairly accurate. That was a good one.
Starting point is 01:27:35 That was a good one. You know, by the way, that was me kicking the plug out and the satellite pack turned off. I mean, it's great. It's great. Okay. Finally, Luke, Jason says, Jay from Boston here, back for the seventh time. My submissions today are dedicated to the train wreck that was the
Starting point is 01:27:51 second half of Monday's show. Wow. First on a lighter note, due to BC's spot on prediction about the Musashi-Vanderford fight, he referred to himself as Nostradonkis. So this is my version with BC as the Chappelle show's Negro Domus played by the late, great Paul Mooney. Paul Mooney was the best. Is he white-facing Paul Mooney here, Luke? I don't know if I want to be a part of this. Yes, he is white-facing. But I like how he put Nostradonk ass because it would be Nostradonmus.
Starting point is 01:28:23 He just said, fuck it, let's just take that and turn it into an ass uh by the way love love the chapelle show as anyone else rightfully should and next check out my guy bc around the 1 hour 15 minute mark for the love of god bc could you please scratch the itchy dead skin off your back while you're not on camera and that face you're making is something that dogs never need to see again come on my face look at my face in this in this screenshot i mean that is that tells the story and finally this one uh last one pretty much sums up the last few minutes of monday's show uh i don't know if there's another one or that's it, but Luke. Oh, here it is. Yeah. Oh, that's so good.
Starting point is 01:29:09 That J from Boston. That's so good. Luke, you know, I give you a lot of on and off screen hankering. No, that's the wrong word. Abuse for vaping like a white trash piece of shit. I don't know. Award winning live broadcast but the combination of me allowing my feet to air on the documentary bear and making this the back scratch face on air i do have to cop to that that that there are things i accept as normal that to others
Starting point is 01:29:40 are absolutely disgusting well you are a trifling, horrible person, but I still tolerate you and love you just the same. Thank you. That was our show today. Thumbs up on the video, hit subscribe.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Reminder, reminder, reminder, you can still, it's still going on, I believe, the presser, Spence Jr. vs. Ugas. It's official, April 16th, Showtime pay-per-view.
Starting point is 01:30:01 You can go check that out. Link in the description box. And of course, if you want to try Showtime, regular TV, Showtime.com, 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can bounce. I want to remind folks, Friday's show will be here,
Starting point is 01:30:12 but if you want to get into the dead wrongs, morningcombat at gmail.com and St. Patrick's Day merch. St. Patrick's Day merch is up now, morningcombat.store. BC, any final thoughts before we call it a day? Yeah, I think I'm talking to Bryce Mitchell today from Morning Combat Luke there you go that should be a fun interview by the way his fight
Starting point is 01:30:32 is super exciting fight against Edson Barbosa love love love that fight Luke if we if we talk to RJ and we do make January 6 merch will Bryce Mitchell wear it to the Octagon we would have to sponsor him. You have to do it right. You have to do it right. But we can try.
Starting point is 01:30:48 We can try. Okay, BC. That is it for us. Thank you guys so much for watching. This will be up on the podcast very soon. And for Malka, for Showtime, for CBS Sports, that's Brian. I'm Luke. Until next time, may all of your games be loyal.

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