MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC 277 | Shevchenko to 135? | Tank Davis vs. Rolly Romero | Canelo-GGG | Ep. 305

Episode Date: May 25, 2022

On Episode 305 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian break down the recently released UFC 277 fight card. Which fights are they most excited for? Next up the guys discuss Valentina Shevchenko's comments about moving back up to 135. Is this the right move? The guys transition to some boxing talk to preview Gervonta Davis vs. Rolando Romero and discuss Canelo vs. GGG being announced for September. The boys close out the show with some quick hitters and Fan submissions. (14:20) - UFC 277 Card Revealed (33:15) - Shevchenko Interested in Pena-Nune Winner (43:30) - Gervonta Davis vs. Rolando Romero (63:20) - Canelo vs. GGG Trilogy  (76:20) - Ice Wars (83:15) - Fan Submissions Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Look at us now, tip to tip This is our life, this is our passion That's the spirit we bring to this show I'm Luke Thomas I'm Brian Campbell This is Morning Combat It's a Wednesday MK It's a hump day It's the 25th of May 2022. Hello everyone. It is time for your daily dose of stupid combat sports talk. My name is Luke Thomas. I'll be doing a lot of the stupid sports talk right here along with my partner and friend and less, I guess, you know what? I think I'm redder today than you are. More like piggly, wiggly, hot dog pink.

BC's looking a little more normal today. A little more like the beige guy he presents himself to be. It's Brian Campbell. What's up, BC? Well, I will say, Luke, my riding mower breaking and falling apart has been the best thing to happen to my tan, though. So it's still holding strong, Luke, as I had to push the other mower yesterday. You know what I mean?

You know you made it in life, Luke, when you can say the other mower right you know what i'm saying it's like it's like famous comedians when they get to a certain point they're like no that other bitch you know what i mean you know keep her in check i feel like i feel like i feel like you've only really made it when you can say things like yes farnsworth bentley will go mo oh farnsworth bentley's not available yes my other butler will just go deal with it. That's when you've really made it, not when you're like... Spalding, take your foot off the boat, indeed. Yes, I'm with you on that.

Yes, yes. All right, on today's show, this is going to be a weird week, so let's set this up for just a second. Saturday, of course, is going to be Gervonta Davis, Tank Davis, taking on Rolando Romero, a.k.a. Tank versus Roley. BC will be there. Unfortunately, I will not be there. You will be there on Friday as well.

Correct. BC. You know, I might even have to be there on Thursday. Look, if you're trying to get people, my actual itinerary, all right, Brooklyn. I'm just saying you're covering that. So there won't be a Friday show, but we will have something else in place of that. So here's the deal, folks. Friday's show coincides directly clashing up

against the Tank vs. Roley weigh-in that you're going to find on the Showtime YouTube and social media channels. I will be hosting that with a variety of special, very special guests from the worlds of boxing, NBA, and beyond, so check that out for sure.

But during your normally scheduled MK slot on Friday, 11 a.m. Eastern on the YouTub boxing, NBA, and beyond. So check that out for sure. But during your normally scheduled MK slot on Friday, 11 a.m. Eastern on the YouTubes, hey, if we can't be there in person, Luke, we might as well roll out some pre-taped greatness, right? Am I right? Well, I don't know if you're right. We're going to find out if you're right, but that's what we're going to do.

All right. Episode 2 of Room Service Diaries 2.0 hits you right in that feel spot come Friday at 11 a.m. Luke, I know we have two clips to appetize what we're offering here. Are you into this? Yeah, I actually didn't see the first one, so if you want to set it up, by all means, set it up. Okay, look, who's our guest for Friday? The second ever edition of the finest casting couch in all of combat sports.

You can find it right there in Jersey City. You're damn right. RSD 2.0, episode two. How about we go after an unbeaten UFC fighter, Luke, who's climbing the rankings and really looks ready to make the type of large statements that I make each week in front of this microphone. His name is Sean frickin freaking Brady. Okay, brother? Alright? And if you don't know already,

he's coming for the rest of that welterweight division. So what does he think of the big names at 170 like Chimaev? Let's go to the videotape, motherfucker. Let's talk about some of these guys. What did you make of Hamzat versus Gilbert Burns? Man, it was...

I seen a lot of people of Hamzat versus Gilbert Burns man it was uh I I seen a lot of people giving Hamzat shit because he had a tough fight like I feel like people thought Hamzat was going to go in there and fucking shoot lasers out of his eyes like he's not he's not he's a human like he's yeah he's very very good and he mauled a couple of guys who weren't that good and skill but Gilbert like I knew that was not going to go down like that. I knew it was going to be a tough fight. And I knew Gilbert was going to take it to him. And he fucking did.

And Hamzat looked great to go in there being number 11 to be the number two guy. Like, that's a big fucking jump. And he looked great. How many people do you think could have done exactly what Gilbert did in that fight? Be that freaking savage and keep pushing that and take on that damage? In our division, not that many. Hamzat's beating most of the guys in the division, 100%. But not me.

I think I can beat all these guys, and I think we're going to go like this until we meet each other, and it's definitely going to happen. That got me fired up. That got me fired up. That got me fired the hell up, Luke Thomas, all right? Yes. Do you want to share with him the other clip? Well, look, we got a great chat, 90 minutes or so, with Sean Brady,

who's really catching a guy who's coming on at the right time, ready to show the world who he is. You'll have that opportunity. If you're wondering if we ask him about not only his fantastic tattoo work, but particularly his ass tats, yes, there's a segment for that in there as well. But Luke, we went a little bit further. I don't know how we stumbled into this conversation. Maybe it was the toxins in our body leading us there, but, um, cause you're heavily toxinated or intoxicated. Um, uh, but we did end up with making

a tattoo bet with Sean Brady. Let's see what this is all about. I'll set up the tattoo. You come up. Showtime will pay. My boy Matt Landon will tattoo us. We'll drink and we'll get tattooed. And we'll film it. And BC, would you get tattooed?

What will they allow me to put in my body before the tattoo process? You can do whatever you want. You're not supposed to drink, but you can definitely get high. I know the tattoo artist. You can drink.

Yeah, okay. It's a private studio. We can drink. Look, is Sean Brady only hanging out with us because we have cameras? That's a question. But if we get to that point,

if we get to that, and obviously because of the drug rugs, I'll do it. I'll man up. I'll be the... You know, I once said 250,000 subscribers and I'll get that ink. How about hanging out with... He beats Vicente Luque, I'm getting it. How about hanging out with this unbeaten welterweight, okay?

We don't need them Brazilian nuts. I've already raised my tea, okay? Bro, could I look more like Will Ferrell in Elf sitting in that goddamn chair i look i look awful uh you know i can't comment on your personal appearance luke i have my own opinions on that but uh the content though that we're putting out there that sean brady helped us create what do you think about that what do you think about bc indeed the american alpha manning up and saying look you guys know what i'm afraid of in life, right?

Spiders. Needles. You know, women with tattoos. That's really it. Are you afraid of them or attracted to them? Because based on the things you tell me privately, I'm going to guess the latter. You know, I like to stay as ambiguous as possible, Luke, including sexually. Thank you.

No, seriously, though. You're ace in theory. This is me manning up and saying, hey, Sean Brady, you want to go out there and get yourself a big win? You want to meet the Showtime crew with the cameras? You know, where are we meeting? Vegas? Philly? Wherever they do that ink, Luke.

Yeah, I'll get one, okay? I'll man up. Maybe I'll bring those Brazilian nuts with me, Luke, just to, yeah. I can't wait to watch you cry. If I'm Vitor, I'm just selling a bag of nuts that says 2013 Vitor, and it just shows him on the cover sitting on top of the cage with the Mohawk, having just removed Luke Rockhold or Michael Bisping or Dan Hendo from their senses, Luke.

I'd buy the shit out of that product. I'll tell you that. But you can buy this, which is Sean Brady Room Service Diaries 2.0 for free. All you have to do is tune in this Friday, 11 a.m. Eastern. So I think we're building something fun here, Luke. I think the, you know, the adulation, the viewership, that'll all come in time. But critically, I mean, it's, you know, look, it's a fucking slam dunk, right? Jam, right? Yeah, I mean, it's good.

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Let's get to it here, BC. Topic number one, the UFC 277 fight card was announced. We never really got around to it. So today is certainly a day where we could do that. BC, the card would basically be as follows. Now, of course, as we know, this will be July 30th. They are subject to change. But as it stands, there will be July 30th. They are subject to change, but as it stands, there'll be the rematch between Juliana Pena versus Amanda Nunes. This, of course,

will also be the finale or, you know, the conclusion or whatever you want to call it, essentially, of the Ultimate Fighter season. Brandon Moreno versus Kaikara France for an interim title. Derek Lewis versus Sergey Pavlovich. Paulo Costa versus Luke Rockhold, although that might be moved back now to August, which we'll talk about. And then rounding out that main card, Magomed Onkelia versus Anthony Smith. BC, I'm not sure where you want to start. Perhaps for just the news purposes, Luke Rockhold telling Submission Radio just yesterday, the video came out this morning or late last night, where he said that Paulo Costa is trying to now move the fight back to August. Now, as we know, BC, usually if a fight is booked and it gets delayed like a month or something,

maybe even a couple of weeks, there's usually like a small injury or the UFC is trying to mix and match other parts that may need a boost in terms of star power or card credibility. Luke Rockhold seems to be very upset about it. What do you make of it? What, his fight getting moved, essentially? Yeah, essentially getting delayed again, because it's been delayed before. Without knowing the reason, I certainly don't like it.

What I don't like about it is that it waters this card down. And this is the second pay-per-view in the same calendar month of July that UFC is doing. But it's starting to feel a little Rob Peter to pay Paul. We just talked about this International Fight Week card, Luke, which is like very good, but not great in terms of the consistency that we've known. Although it is deep, let's, you know, there's obviously fights you want to see. We're going to be there, by the way, in Las Vegas, July 2nd, happily. But the point is now you're coming back with a second pay-per-view card the same month.

And look, you know, we love the main event. We need it. The co-main event shouldn't have that interim title, but even that aside, it's a rematch that we all want to see but Luke I think it's lacking that big time kick the door in type of I need to reflect you know knee-jerk reflex by this because this person is on the card I do think this pay-per-view card lacks it and now you're taking this Rockhold fight which has hella intrigue in, it's really in many ways sort of the perfect guaranteed action, interesting fight, big names that you throw on a card like this to boost it up and give it that extra flair.

If it's going to be missing this, Luke, right? I mean, tell me I'm wrong, Luke. There's a little eh involved here. Because it wouldn't be clear what from the rest of the card you would sub in that could match it. There are other good fights on the card, but none of them have any relevance, I would say, to where Rockhold and Costa would be

in terms of the part of the middleweight division. So it would be Justin Toppa versus Dontel Mays, no. Drew Dober versus Rafael Alves, no. Diego Fajeda versus Jakar Klose, fine fight, but no. Ramez Abrahima versus Michael Morales, no. Jiwon Kim versus Maria Agapova, no. And then lastly, Nikolai Negomoranu versus Ihor Potiera, I guess. I'm not sure how you pronounce that name.

But obviously, no. So it's a clear loss, and you would have to sub out something from another card to even get close to this to your right, to your Rob Peter to pay Paul. Now, that's not been confirmed 100%, so that still could have it. So in the event that this stays at, we introduced the possibility that Luke Rockhold and Costa might be moved. If they stay on the card, BC, give me a grade for that main card. Uncle Ive Smith, Costa Rockhold again, assuming that it stays,

Louis Pavlovich, Moreno, Kaikar France, interim title, Peña Amanda Nunez, full-on weight class title. What do you think? Okay, for a summer pay-per-view, I'm going to give it a B. And there's good and bad with that grade. Do you think I'm being too harsh, Luke? When you do two pay-per-views in a month, I'm not asking them to be 2016,

where they were trying to sell the company. And we got a really good fight night card with a title fight with Eddie Alvarez on top on one night. Then a really good tough finale with the Ioana-Clausio rematch on the main event of that fight, and then we go into one of the deepest cards ever, UFC 200, the next night. I'm not asking for that, but for two pay-per-view cards in the same month. If you combine them together, do you know what we have? We have a loaded summer blockbuster, typically in line with what we see on International Fight Week, so I'd be a little more happy of that.

But if we're going to stand firm like we are right now, Luke, that's a B at best for this card. And I understand I'm complaining during a season, especially mid and post-quarantine, in which, God, UFC was not only the leader in all of sports, in combat sports for sure. You're always getting what you want. Well, this summer we're getting a little bit of watering down, Luke, and that's just the truth. It is. Yeah. I would say if you pulled stuff from this card and put it on 276,

to your point, for International Fight Week, that card would be great. And it's not just that. Now, some of this wouldn't be solved, but you wouldn't put everything from this main card on that summer blockbuster 276, which means you would have a little bit left to, like, fortify some of these fight night cards. Dude, some of these fight night cards are a main event and then lfa like it's just they're barely barely barely ufc cards or at a bare minimum indistinguishable from high level lfa or high

level cffc from whatever you're watching on the screen this if you could move like you know uncle i versus smith to a co-main event role on a fight night and then have Costa versus Rock hold on it or something like that, dude, that'd be great. That'd be a great fight night card. Two, potentially three or four potentially fights you could have. That'd be of decent quality, but dude, they're pumping out a lot

of these cards that have very, the only value to them is that it keeps the divisions moving. Those fighters get the fights they need to have their contracts fulfilled. And the UFC puts up enough cards together to make ESPN happy over the course of their lifetime of deal. But are the cards designed to maximize consumer happiness? No, of course they're not. They're not even close to that.

They seem designed to fill dates. So I want to ask you being being understanding but being critical and indirect if who are people buying ufc 277 for like god i want to see pena nunez up you know i want to see that bad i'm in right i'm your customer i want to see it there's history there's intrigue there's everything but who is the casual fan buying this card for in your opinion luke the casual fan probably isn't buying this card very much i mean juliana pena is the champion fan buying this card for, in your opinion, Luke? The casual fan probably isn't buying this card very much. I mean, Juliana Pena is the champion, and she has put herself in a pretty tremendous position.

She does have something of a name. I think that will matter. Same for Amanda Nunes, arguably the greatest women's fighter of all time, probably the one walking away. But she is not so much a commercial draw, never really has been. Again, I think she's gotten a lot better over the years with that. I'm not saying this is some kind of character flaw. I'm just saying, what does the market bear when she's in a headlining role? Not necessarily all that much. You look at the

supporting cast. These are great fights. Brenda Moreno, Kaikara France, Costa Rockhold, Ancalaya Smith. Like, dude, there's nothing wrong with any of these, as I mentioned, Derek Lewis. But none of those names are really the kinds of names, or none of these matchups are the kinds of matchups that really dial it up on, hey, are the casual fans interested? This is the hardcore fan delight plus a little bit of that casual fan base. Again, casual fan bases exist in sort of concentric rings of how close they get to MMA center. You're not going to get the ones at the far end, the ones that only Conor can capture, or even Jon Jones, for that matter.

This would be a step down from that as well. So it's still, don't get me wrong, fight quality on the main card? The fight quality on the main card is actually pretty, really high. The casual fan base bait is next to nothing. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.

And again, it's the same month. We're getting two of them, but you are asking fans to pay for both of those when it probably could be one card. But Luke, that aside, this along with the tough season placement has allowed Peña Nunez the best possible chance to be a commercial

success and get everybody involved. I don't know how to act heading into this. I can't wait to see it I really enjoyed interviewing Juliana Pena a few weeks back or a month ago, whatever it was when the tough season was announced but do you think by the time we get

to July 30th that this could feel like a big time rematch because historically, like it is, right? I mean even if this ends up even if you're a Juliana critic and hater and you're like, this is Matt Serra GSP part two about to happen. I don't necessarily think, you know, I mean, look, do I think at the end of the day it could happen? Yeah, I do.

But the whole point is even that was a massive must-see event. Do you think this fight will build to a fairly significant height through the vehicle of Tuff and, you know, giving them the placement that, you know, I'll say it, they deserve. This fight matters. Tuff exists as an abstraction in my life. I don't really have a clear sense about who watches it or what kind of role it plays as a promotional vehicle. When it was doing big numbers on Spike or for a short time, FS1 or whatever it was, you could at least make some kind of inference about how much this would buoy the fighters who came from

it the overall vehicle itself or any potential card you know like i talked about it before like what was it ufc whatever it was when it was chuck randy too that was the first first one post ultimate fighter it clearly boosted it at that time it clearly had a clearly played a role at that moment i don't know if it plays any kind of role like that again i think it's just content for espn plus and hardcores to stream so they can stay on site as long as possible it's really it's just a usage thing for them it's not really a promotional vehicle in that other sense now between now and then could this ratchet up to a war of words could there be you know a big push after the 276 hangover and whatnot yeah like there's a lot of there is some room i would say for the intrigue of this fight the the the ugliness so to speak of their rivalry and

whatnot to boost it perhaps more than just what you might assume here on may 25th fair enough i think that's probably pretty real we have two months basically before this happens there's a lot that could happen in that time but the baseline of what could be expected from either or this rivalry in particular is not especially high in that sense that's what I would say two quick questions for you on the exit about this matchup Luke and it's early but this is sort of an early look at it who do you think the fans want to win this rematch not that it matters much in this but in terms of you know how the fans are looking at both brands right now of pena and newness and two what do you think the ufc wants if they had their pick in the war room of who wins what if this is pro wrestling matchmaking who would they prefer to win here i think the fans would prefer amanda which is hilarious because i remember when

they excoriated her for pulling out of her Shevchenko fight when she had sinusitis. Remember that? They were like, oh, I've had the cold before. It's like, bitch, Amanda Nunes would fuck you up, you loser. Well, dude, Dana also helped push that by being so critical and saying she'll never main event again. Blah, blah, blah. Okay. I'm just pointing

out to the fans being like, I've had a cold before. It's like, dude, you're not even one, you're not even a fraction of as tough as amanda noon as but okay that aside i do think they want her to win because i do think since that time she has greatly repaired aka you know created an image for herself that the fans have really bought into which i think is not just an image it's there's a lot of reality to it which is hey this might be the best female fighter ever. And so getting on the wrong side of that for fans is kind of a place they don't want to be. And, you know, again, she has assumed that mantle by virtue of this incredible win streak she went on.

For the UFC, I don't know how much time, it's a harder question to ask because they've invested a lot in Amanda and I think they want to see some of that pay off. You know, and, you know, hey, we have the best women's fighter of all time, and she's also a belt holder. It's hard. I realize that she's a 145 belt holder, but what does that even mean anymore? Having that 135 title is a lot more prestigious than having that 145 title. Having both at the same time is even better.

So there's an argument that they would want that, but there's also an argument that Pena, while she had missed a lot of parts of her career, is a little bit younger. I think I have to double-check double checked that and if that is if that is the case let me double check that there's a little bit more life that they could uh there's a little bit more left in her career at the top relative to Amanda in that scenario that they may want to play off of but that's quite speculative no I agree and I think you know it's hypercritical but also understandable to say I think Amanda

has sort of maxed her commercial limit out, and she's done a great job of it, despite Darren Revell's tweets and give her all that credit. But not that I'm, you know, assuming it'll necessarily happen because Pena hasn't, even with the victory, has crossed over really only a bit.

Look, they did put her on the Ultimate Fighter. She can talk. She can represent the sport. You know, she's got a pretty smile, but trash talking is absolutely a legit fighter on top of that and is aggressively going after what she wants. I'm wondering, you know, if they look at this and go, oh, she's younger and, you know, that's the type of character we'd kind of want in these women's divisions right now to sort of stir things up. I wonder if that's part of it too, Luke. I

wonder if they would want her on top. Yeah, they might. I think that's a reasonable scenario. By the way, getting back to the question of age, it's not much difference. Here's the difference. Pena will be 33 in August after this fight, and Amanda Nunes is already 33 but will be 34 just turned 33 no excuse me turns 34 in five days it's not a huge difference not really a huge difference a year and some change almost yeah but mileage you know in ring in cage mileage is different that's right and I also just at the stage Amanda's at like she has built and built and built and built there's not much further she can go. She can keep on dominating in the space

or winning anyway, but she can't really like climb to a new height, at least not in terms of the quality of her resume. She's already beaten all the best fighters she's probably going to beat. That's a little bit speculative, but you know what I'm saying? Here we are with Holly Holm,

who is 40 and still, well, she didn't win on Saturday, but you know, you get the idea. She had two fight win win streak she was coming into that one so it is possible that the age is negligible but to your point as well BC I agree that like there is a real big difference in mileage and stage of the career and so for that reason perhaps Dunas has or excuse me perhaps Pena has a little bit more of the wind in her back in terms of promotional favor and to be fair like you said Holm didn't win but she probably should have you know it wasn't a scenario in which the the rules weren't followed by the fighters you know she was offensive enough luke and you know i really thought her combination of

aggressiveness intention control and enough damage you know i thought it did enough to trump i know but that's because you have a tenuous grasp of the scoring criteria you know i thought it you know i i thought every everybody did their job maybe except for the judges in this case. So, you know, that's just me talking, Luke. I know other famous people have had that opinion, too, right? You know, you texted me them, too. You're like, here, this idiot sounds just like you. But I'm like, you know, that's not nice at all, Luke.

BC, real quickly on the rest of this card, if we can here very quickly. Your level of, and I'm being serious for a moment just for a moment on kalaya versus smith i know you have dog smith before but you would agree winner of this one i mean there's yon blahovich sitting out there but should the winner of this one okay let me ask you this way if the winner of on kalaya versus smith wins via ko or tko? Should they be the number one contender? You know, I've already said after that Jan victory, stating that I thought I saw enough in the abbreviated ending there to know that where Jan still is,

that I like him going right back into a title fight. And I know it's a longer climb for Ancalaya if he should win, or Smith would obviously make another strong leap and would continue his win streak and would be in that conversation. But I think either way, and also you can also pair the winner of this fight against Ankalayev if you wanted to as well, to create a true No. 1 contender. I still think it should be Jan.

That's just my personal opinion. But if you're asking me related to to the stakes here yeah man I mean you know the winner here spectacularly enough could even cut Jan in the line or get Jan themselves either way they're getting a massive fight and Luke I like Anthony Smith's um little pushback he did I I saw some clips floating around maybe from his biz pink pod where you know he was like, everybody's saying it's after the fact that Enkel Ives is going to beat me, and the debate is should he get the title shot or not. Like, hey, motherfuckers, I'm still coming on.

He didn't say that, Luke. But it kind of sounded like that spirit, and I like that about him. This is going to be a good-ass fight. I mean, Smith is going to have to really bite down and sell out, or at least we think, to beat this guy. But he continually surprises me that Anthony Smith, and he's showing me the true moxie that he has that I sometimes overlook, Luke, just to crack a good joke on your behalf.

But now I guess I regret that a little because he's a sound man. And to find out that Dan Bilzerian stole his family seats at the uh john jones would you not want to see smith like bust that dude's fucking nose it was watching porn pieces so blazarian is watching porn on his phone while sitting next to what anthony smith's mother or mother-in-law while like imagine what a degenerate you are to go to a mma fight drunk and then while you're there you're so bored you're watching pornography on your phone first of all what kind of savage watches pornography on their phone I know the answer is most of our audience but I'm just pointing out this is not a very good

porn watching experience most of our staff and at least half our hosts too Luke okay I know every time we look up and we're looking at the cameraman in studio and they're on their phones it's 100 lock they're on eskimo tube oh dude no they're on they're on ig and they're on that circle button when all the all the chests drop you know jump out of your phone and all the all the booty for you luke yeah you know that's the circle button of hell what is it called that button i don't know what you're talking about i'm being dead serious on ig there's that search button the explore button mikey says yeah yeah you're talking about. I'm being dead serious. On IG, there's that search button. The explore button, Mikey says. Yeah, yeah, you're there to explore.

I'm just a voyeur. You mean the search button? Yeah, if you click that search button, whether you've, you know, our staff has claimed that it's based on your searching practices. Yeah, so here's what happened. I don't think that's true. BC was showing us his search page like so there's the home page search reels shopping and then your and then your uh icon for your own profile he clicked on the

search and it's just like one big booty you know yeah what what woman after the other bc's like this has nothing to do with my search history bc that has only to do with your search history you see mikey more my producer he's like oh by the way uh mine only shows dogs i'm like dude don't talk about busty women like that i mean i've seen your phone all right i've seen your thoughts please yeah i don't know all the all these uh all these european uh female mma fighters started appearing when i clicked that circle button so So I was just like, you know. Yeah, I bet they did. Someone hacked my phone.

All right. Topic number two. Shevchenko, speaking of 135 BC, is interested in the Peña Nunez 2 winner. I don't know where this quote is from, but the quote says on a move back. It's Ariel. It's from Ariel. Excuse me. From the MMA Hour.

On a move back to 135. Quote, I think so, she said. There's always the chance. Definitely's from Ariel. Excuse me. From the MMA Hour. On a move back to 135, quote, I think so, she said. There's always the chance. Definitely the bigger fight, the better. I think it's just on standby before July. This is where they booked the rematch. I think it's inevitable.

Or if she loses, it will be with Juliana Pena. We fought Juliana a few years ago. I submitted her with an armbar. Now people are definitely bringing up her name more frequently. I think by the end of the year, it's going to be a good fight. But we also have to see. Misha Tate is coming to 125 in July. So many things can happen.

Many things can change. So yeah, I think it's possible. It's very, very, very possible. Yeah, BC, I mean, we've been over this a little bit, which is to say they're going to give Tyler Santos the title shot at 125 against Shevchenko, which is fine. You couldn't really look at the rankings and find someone who is at present a better candidate for it. But the problem, as we also noted, BC, you you've already eliminated the number one number two number three and number four contender pretty thoroughly they have to go to number five to give a title shot

yeah you know they're out of options down there almost and this is an exciting look look the one regardless of who wins nunez pena too i think the future of that division over the next year is going to be really fun. This gets me fired up. And I think if you're the UFC, regardless of who wins this Pena-Nunes rematch, I think it's time for Shevchenko for the winner. No matter what, right? If it's Nunes, and if it's Nunes dominantly, then you sort of say, okay, first fight was an aberration. That's fine. She got her belt back.

Let's now go right into that Valentina trilogy and let's bank it right now. And I think the same case can be made for if Pena gets a second straight win because I think that Holly Holm lost potentially as close as it was and couldn't go on either way. I think that hurt UFC's immediate future plans. I think if

Pena won that, they would have loved to put Holly against her. You know, you can argue not as much for a Nunes-Holly rematch in terms of interest. So I think either way, the door is open and it's time for Shevchenko, not just because everybody else at 135 has had their chances, Luke, but because Shevchenko's in a shitty division, more or less, and yet she's been fighting three, four times a year, like, every quarter just to keep that thing churning and running that, you know, she's already been through that list of contenders again and again.

And I know she mentioned there that Misha Tate moved down and, you know, could be in play. And obviously that's a marketable fight. If Tatiana Suarez can never come back, we all want to see that. But there's nobody past Talia Santos for the immediacy that you're like, oh, no, Valentina must fight them. No brainer, Luke. The time is now. Valentina's right. Let's close out this year with a super fight, dude, because, I mean, could you,

Luke, could you imagine if, and it's a very reasonable scenario, let's say Amanda comes back and whatever happened in the first fight, the hiccups are behind her, and let's say Julianna also fights her face off, but Amanda wins, right? And you're like, damn, that's a real warrior.

That's my goat right there, right? And then you face Shevchenko a third time. And I know that people hate when we do this to fill podcast time, which is to constantly say, is this person the goat? Or the goat in waiting? Or are they number 13th on the goat list in this division over history? Who cares? You could build that trilogy bout as the winner's the GOAT.

You're damn right you could, Luke. You're damn right! You're ready to give Shevchenko that bump if she wins this in the third one? Yes, because let's be honest here. Let's talk about her losses. The first time against Gorilla in basically the regional scene that was stopped because of a cut in like, you know, shitty state commission, you know, the early days of MMA. Then we've only seen her lose to Amanda twice, including one fight

where we're like, I definitely think I saw Shevchenko win that. And let's not forget the first fight, even though it was only three rounds, Shevchenko had figured her out in round three and was coming on. So the whole point here, Luke, is the only one she ever had trouble against on the elite level was the greatest of all time. And now if she comes back in a Marquez versus Pacquiao-like revenge here and gets that win over her, okay, we never did see Shevchenko cyborg. Maybe in a perfect world, we still could. I don't know. But yeah, that's my goat right there, Luke, because I don't think you'd be crazy right now if you wanted to say chef chanko already is it's a hipster take but i think her talent is that freaking yeah that is all time great no it's

hipster as shit dude that's a brooklyn coffee shop yeah yeah you might as well wear a winter cap in the summer all right you piece of shit and roll your jeans up at the bottom. Yeah, I see you. You think Corey's a hipster, Maniche? I love that guy. He's not in the country right now, though. We can talk bad about him. You think he's a hipster, Luke?

Who? Maniche, our guy. Maniche is like the backbone of this show. He's actually just cool, and we're not, so we have trouble differentiating the difference between hipster and actually cool. Yeah, we want to sling the hipster sickle at him just because he's cooler than us. I get that. Yeah, he is definitely cooler than us.

I don't know that I would buy that this is... You agree with everything I'm putting out there. I know you do. I don't know that I would buy that this win by itself is enough to make Shevchenko goat, even if she wins in a third fight. I grant that it makes the case significantly stronger, and certainly the debate much more interesting at that point.

But I would say that all the time she has spent fighting good fighters, but not, like, dude, the run that Amanda Nunes had over Rousey and Tate, I mean, I don't think anyone, not even Cyborg, has a run as special as that one in all of, well, certainly men's MMA, there's been some pretty special runs. But in women's MMA, that's your best run through an opponent sequence. That's your best campaign push ever, ever. Dude, quickly, here's the names on that win streak.

Shayna Baszler TKO, submission Sarah McMahon, decision win over Shevchenko, submission win over Tate, knockout of Rousey in the first round, split decision win over Shevchenko, submission win over Tate, knockout of Rousey in the first round, split decision win over Shevchenko in the rematch, then she stops Pennington, knocks out Chris Cyborg in round one, knocks out Holly Holm with a head kick in round one, wins a decision over Durandamy in their

rematch, and then beats Spencer and Megan Anderson on the way out there at 45. Good God, Luke. That's... God. that's, I mean, there's no one even in the category in terms of a stretch like that. Even on the men's side, it's very low and rare. It's like, well, John Jones

and that time Anderson Silva destroyed everybody. You know what I mean? Like, damn, Luke. I know, but here's the problem. If she captures the 135-pound title and there's a 125-pound title, we know the score, dude. You can't keep both of them.

So let's say that actually she does win. She gets a fight against Nunes. Again, Peña might win. I'm not making a claim otherwise. I'm just imagining a world where Nunes wins. Then they have this trilogy, and then Shevchenko wins. What would you rather her do? You're going to say give up 125, right?

But isn't that the division that actually has, at least not presently, but perhaps long-term, a little bit more promise? Yeah, I don't think they'd make her. say give up 125 right but isn't that the division that actually has at least not presently but perhaps long term a little bit more promise yeah i don't think they'd make not more promise 125 has more room to mature than 135 does i'll put it that way and i think if you're the ufc and you're smart and they typically are you'd have her if there's another fight at 35 immediately whether it be like a rematch or something that they can do right away that would draw money you do it but then you kind of let her go back to 25 and do her thing. You're not going to strip her on day one. They'll figure out what's the best direction is. But

I just got excited talking about the UFC women's band weight division. That hasn't happened in a long time, Luke. So I am looking forward to this idea, but could you imagine if they really went all in on the real idea, the winning idea the bc plan of of adopting women's heavyweight between 135 and 155 that's actually one of your better ideas and i really mean that it is one of your better ideas i mean it's you know it's a little bit misogynistic in the sense it's like yeah just have them big old girls swing on each other we don't need no weight weight classes but in the other sense there's actually real rationale to it, which is, hey, we have a finite amount of what's doable here.

We'd rather offer them the option to fight under these circumstances than not. If there was some kind of method to make this all work, we'd be in favor. But a lot of it is, you ever seen them big old fat girls at the softball field hit them things a million miles? We got to get them things in the in the in the octagon luke with that is that the clientele you went after in college look we can talk offline on that on our patreon show that may or may not have been true no my my taste changed in college i was still interested in southern bells because i was a fucking idiot what about softball catchers you

interested in them all right luke so here's the deal on that though i know you are i know i had a good point i know i I was going to say something. No one's ever put lunch lady more in their pornography search terms than Brian Campbell. I mean, imagine we could have a true go after that. Imagine like a round robin at women's heavyweight. I know people will say that's going to give Kayla an inherent advantage, and you're probably right. But here's the deal. I want to find out who's the best of all time why not have kayla cyborg nunes pena shevchenko tate why don't they all just fight

each other in this heavyweight division we'll figure it out luke i mean i just print money my ideas just print themselves onto paper luke okay i say so much shit i don't write my ideas on toilet paper right like i got it it's you. You know, it's brilliantly dumb, you once called me. I mean, that's what it is, Luke, okay? But damn, is that a good idea. I mean, just smell it, Luke, right? It's not a bad idea. It's really not.

It's not workable in any kind of way, and no one's going to do it. But you could do the old Jonathan Snowden idea, right? How is he not workable it's the barge fighting championship whose idea was that jonathan snowden like to get around lame u.s laws you just actually float a barge a little bit off coast so you're in international territory and then just have fights under whatever rule set you want you know yeah I like it. That's what we all thought Fight Island was going to be, Luke. I know, and it was like, no, we're just going to work with a dictatorial government. All right, topic number three here, BC.

All right, this is the big one for the weekend. There is one piece of good combat sports action over the weekend, and it takes place in the boxing side of things. This will be on Showtime pay-per-view. And why it on pay-per-view because Tank Davis is here Tank Davis who I think is going to be setting a Barclays record I read for a boxing match in that venue in terms of the gate and when you think about that that says a lot about who has been through there taking on Rolando Romero BC now I want to be honest with the audience audience. I am very much expecting an all-action affair. I am very much expecting an all-action affair for as long as it lasts. Don't know exactly how long

it will last for a couple of reasons, which we'll get into, but I got to tell you, if I'm just being honest with the audience, I don't see any way Gervonta Davis loses this, dot, dot, dot, short of just, I mean, you know, if he didn't train at all and or doesn't even try, he could lose. Short of that, though, I see him winning, and I see him winning in absolutely vicious, vicious fashion. What am I missing? You know, I think he's among the, you know, 10 or 12 best fighters in this game, pound for pound. So, yeah, I think the betting odds are reflecting what you're saying, that at its core on paper, this is a perfectly competitive fight.

We don't expect it to be, but that doesn't mean that, A, what I'm picking on is absolute entertainment and fireworks, which I think you're going to get in a slam-dunk variety here, which is why this is a pay-per-view. I mean, even Tank said himself, he's like, I don't hate Roley. I don't necessarily want to make him money, but you know, we kind of did this fight because he can sell it, right? He can talk that game. But at the very least, what does Roley bring to the table? It's not just that puncher's chance, which is why he's in this fight, why he's unbeaten, even though, you know, we thought he lost to Jackson Marinas. I think he did, but he

got to, you know, give scorecards in some ways. But I think either way, whether he lost to Jackson Marinas. I think he did, but he got to give scorecards in some ways. But I think either way, whether he lost that fight or not, he's got not just the puncher's chance, but like the crazy chance, the aggressive brawler's chance. I mean, there was a time, and I'm not saying this is an equal comparison, but there was a time when Vernon Forrest finally summited the welterweight scene and beat Shane Mosley twice. And we were like, damn, this guy, this guy might be the pomper pound King Vernon Forrest. Like he's unbelievable. He's a long welterweight who can box, but man, he can punch when he gets inside. And then he fought Ricardo Mayorga. And you know, it was one of the greatest sort of upset, fun moments in the last 20 something years of boxing because Mayorga is crazy. and because he smokes a cigarette and drinks a beer in the post-fight interview.

I mean, all that stuff is great. But he's that, Roley's almost the modern-day version of what Mayorga was, what Marcos Maidana was for that season when he got to the level of fighting Floyd twice, which is, do they have limitations as boxers? Yes.

Is there certain, does the fight have to go their way to potentially win? Of course. But that brawling street side of them, which we don't normally factor into the X's and O's and previewing a fight. Right. In a boxing match, that street side is so dangerous. I mean, Mayorga went in there, lured Vernon Forrest into a brawl and knocked him the hell out. I mean, it was it was wild to see. That's got to be Rowley's path to victory, but it's not impossible.

And I think the All-Access team, Showtime's documentary series, did a sort of great job of taking a snapshot behind the scenes and in the ring of who Rowley is and why he has this confidence. He is physically a lot bigger than Gervonta, who's sort of fighting in weight classes 135 and 140 that are a little bit above his head in terms of his height and actual size. You know, he's been able to float around to different weight classes because he's so great. But Roley's going to have that puncher's chance. And, you know, you can make the case you just did, Luke, that no matter what version of Roley walks in there, he's still going to get knocked out. And that just might be because Gervonta is that good but the road to finding

that out whether that road is one minute long or you know surprisingly six seven eight nine ten rounds whatever happens you can't tell me it's going to be boring Luke Thomas and I love the reason why I've just sort of grabbed on to Roley and I'm interviewing him later today and I just sort of I get excited when he's on there not at the allegations against him or some of the things he says but he's like the movie villain come to life Luke we need wild cards like this in the game but I'm saying don't count him out completely he's going to go down shooting and he might he may hurt Gervonta on the way to get knocked out Luke it's going to be fun to see I mean this is sort of my view on it like it's not just that I think there's a gap between Davis and Romero in terms of boxing ability,

although there is a gap between them, and it's a pretty significant one. But that by itself, so what? There's lots of big gaps. That by itself would not give me the evidence I would need or the ammunition to have this opinion. The thing that gets me, and I think this is the part you have to acknowledge, Romero often fights in a way that is not, it's not merely that he is less than risk averse,

he is reckless. He is reckless at times. And when I say reckless, I mean like for long stretches of times. So it's like, here's the thing about that. I think that that does elevate the chance that some of his better heavier punches will land i will i will i will acknowledge that however it also greatly increases the chance that tank davis who is as verified a power puncher as

we have in this game pound for pound bc you would argue maybe top three of our the current games pound for pound best pound for pound right for absolutely and he went out and by the way when he did go up to 140 he stopped unbeaten mario barrio so yeah the power is absolutely for so his power is legit i get that there is this increased chance that romero could land and that matters and I take that seriously especially on the other side if Tank Davis has taken this one lightly on the other hand fighting that way against someone who is as skilled and as powerful a puncher as Tank Davis if those big punches don't land or they don't have the desired effect let's say dude he's gonna find the chin ask leo santa cruz and when he does he will fucking decapitate him that's the part for me that i just i can't not see absolutely

luke and god i mean this could be this could end very badly for roly there's no doubt look at this face off bro like i'm not saying romero's acting but i know for a fact Tank Davis is not I can tell dude Tank Davis is from a rough part of Baltimore dude when he is in your face like that he is meaning everything he says very very naturally very naturally oh yeah Tank well that's see here's the weird thing about let me let's talk about that so to close on Roley, everything you said true, but that was also Leo Santa Cruz at his highest weight of 130. This is Roley at a weight that he's probably a little bit too big for, in all fairness.

So if Roley can take more punishment, direct punishment, than some of the guys that have stood up against Tank can, maybe he lingers like Mario Barrios did and was in that fight. I mean, he's awkward as shit. Everything is thrown with harsh intention.

It's crazy. But to get to Tank for a second here, Luke, I feel like there's still a lot of... Maybe this fight ends up being huge for Tank for a lot of reasons because I did listen to him on the Brian Custer The Last Stand podcast that Showtime does. And Tank did address the drama with Mayweather promotions and just saying, look, it's not so much drama as I've just grown up

and I'm ready to go on my own. So this is my last fight with them. I'm not saying goodbye to them or, you know, PBC or Showtime, whatever. You know, like in a negative way, just I'm ready to go out on my own. And I think if you're Tank, you should, especially because if there's any criticism against Tank for the most part, people say it's the matchmaking and he doesn't consistently challenge himself enough. Or maybe he doesn't speak up enough to, to make those challenges happen. Well, you go on your own,

you step out from under the Floyd shadow, you're, you know, the criticism is going to fall on you. So it's good. Put that in your own hands. But, um, it could also be interesting for Tank because I still, you know, talking to other boxing writers or fans or whatever, like there's still a lot of people who don't like Tank, but Luke, I think it goes like to a level where they think when, when, when the, when the going gets tough, when Tank finally gets into a war, they don't necessarily believe that he's going to be, you know, as durable or about it or, or willing or able to, to get through that. And I just don't see that criticism of tank. And it's not just coming from West Baltimore and wearing that like a badge in terms of what he's been through to get here. And, you know, he still lives a life that there's issues outside the ring here and there for sure.

But dude, if you're going to beat tank Davis, I don't think it's because he's going to implode is what I'm necessarily saying. I don't think everybody gives him his due as a boxer which lent you know leads itself lends itself to him always being sort of like on the outside looking into the pound for pound debate even though if you're really looking at the definition of pound for pound this guy's fighting like three different weight classes and beating top guys I get we all want them against better competition consistently no question no question about that but like I think there's a lot of people out there who just question if tank is really that dude like he's really got that backbone and um so let me ask you a question let me ask you a question in in direct line with the argument you're making

let's imagine a scenario on saturday where two things happen one it's pretty clear that and well this guy who's you know lost his weight, his title on the scales, as you indicated, he's got a jury trial coming up for a series of crimes he's alleged to have committed. Let's say he comes into this one unmotivated and let's say, relatively speaking, unprepared. Again, I'm making a huge assumption here, but let's just say. And two, Romero surprises us all by trying to box smart smartly what happens well his version of boxing smartly would still have to be offensive and explosive right I mean he's not a Roley Romero's not a pure boxer to the level that his trainer Bullet Cromwell he prefers to be called Bullet uh basically says we don't train for boxing, like we train for assault.

Like we train for like, you know, and to be fair... Dude, Romero is a weird guy, bro. He's a weird guy. Yeah, to be fair, like Rolly's tough to deal with. Like when you're not, especially when he's potentially bigger than you in terms of frame, because, you know, he'll throw lead elbows

and he'll maul you. He'll basically turn it into like an MMA fight in a lot of ways. But they're not training to win rounds, but I get your point. If we see a more calculated performance from Romero than we think is possible, mixed with what you're saying, could this just be a fight that Tank is looking past or maybe he's just completely underestimating Roley? Because Roley is a clown. Let's be fair, he's a clown. He's an entertaining clown, but he's a definite clown. That's all possible. The drama with the Floyd thing, the impending charges,

all that could be a clown. Does this make this a potential trap fight? I say yes it does, Luke. Again, Roley's not a guy you want to F around with, right? Like, if he ends up having a world-class chin, Roley Romero, this is going to be interesting for as long as it goes, right? I'm telling you,

if his chin is better than we think it is, and it's potentially an off night, yeah, there's a trap element for Tank here. But on the flip side, Luke, Tank probably won't get the respect if he rolls through Roley because people expect him to no matter what. But I think there's just always so much extra criticism put on him. And again, maybe it's because he gets in trouble outside with the law. I mean, he got caught on camera striking a woman. I mean, like, it's not good, right?

But I think sometimes, Luke, that mixed with the Floyd connection where people sort of, you know, feel like sometimes Floyd carries him, whether it's true or not. I don't think Tank ever really gets his due into just how great of a fighter he actually is. Versatility, daringness, like everything across the board. I don't think this fight stamps that home, but I hope it takes it closer because he's absolutely legit. And if going on his own, like I mentioned earlier, leads to him getting the type of fights he deserves,

like the winner of Haney versus Cambosas, for example, then I'm all for it here. Okay, but then answer this question, because this would tell us everything we need to know about Romero. If Romero somehow wins, and I don't mean by some crazy judging or crazy refereeing, but actually beats him, what does that do to everything? Because we saw Cambosis beat Lopez. That turned everything a little bit upside down for a moment in time.

Now Haney's going to fight him in Australia or whatever we'll see how that goes but it definitely impacted the division about how we understood it so what happens if Romero does what I consider to be super unlikely but certainly possible I think you press pause meaning it's potentially massively damaging to who Tank is going forward in a lot of ways but you would pause because you'd have to do a rematch and there would be big money it'd'd be a big deal, especially if Roley shocks the world. And you're like, oh crap, is Tank ever really that guy? BC just yelled into the microphone that he thinks he actually is. Well, you got to prove it inside the ring. So let's see. I think, you know, we give fighters in a lot of cases that mulligan or that gimme. Okay. We saw you lose, but get the

immediate rematch. Go take care. You know, GSP, take care of Matt Serra. We forgive and forget. He'd get that opportunity, Luke. Would it take away some of the Superman luster that he carries? Of course. But it's obviously hugely potential damaging if it begins a stretch of going in the wrong direction. And if you're rolling, you're probably going to have to beat him twice. But you're probably, if you're rolling, more than willing to because you want the smoke. You want the big money and the big opportunity. And if you're rolling, you're probably going to have to beat him twice, but you're probably, if you're rolling more than willing to,

because you want the smoke, you want the big money and the big opportunity. And this is certainly that form. Your likeliest, let's do predictions. Your likeliest outcome of this fight is what? Gervonta Davis by knockout is most likely. And that could come through pure domination.

That could come through one punch that can come through him it could be a war and gervonta has to go through hell and where and where down the bigger fight or late that it could absolutely come in any of those forms luke but the best bet the most likely is gervonta davis by knockout he's i don't have the odds in front of me he's got to be a huge betting favorite just in the disparity in terms of overall skill i mean let's not forget again gervonta's in or around that pound-for-pound discussion because he's really that good. So in theory, he should win this.

I'm not here to say there's strong money on the upset, although I do understand the potential for that trap sort of angle that we just cut the possibility of, Luke, which needs some other factors along with it. Although, again, we've seen it before in somebody like Mayorga, who would you have ever guessed on your life before Mayorga upset Vernon Forrest that he could be on

that level? I never could have. Sometimes you just have to see it with your own eyes. So I like Gervonta as much as you do, Luke. I just think that there's going to have to be some negotiating going on in terms of how he deals with the physicality of Romero. And because Romero's cadence and timing is just so awkward. I mean, he throws a lot of sidearm stuff. He throws it squaring up. I mean, there's a lot that Roley does that's just going to be hard to get used to. I like this to be an action fight.

You know, both guys could hit the canvas, seriously. But at the end of the day, Gervonta Davis is going to stop this guy, and it's probably going to get, it's probably going to be fun to watch because of the seemingly real heat between them. I know Gervonta says it's not real. It's just business for me. This guy just talks his shit. But I think Tank knows how to –

I think if anyone can press Tank's button for real, Luke, it is Roley, and I think that's going to amp it up once they start trading punches in there. Yeah, I think the problem for Tank is that he doesn't view Romero as an adversary in the way Romero views him. I think Davis views... It's a trap fight in this sense. Davis views himself as categorically a different level of both star, boxing,

life achievement, you name it. That Romero is here by virtue of a series of lucky circumstances and nothing more. And that Davis has to pay this tax, so to speak, to preserve his status, almost like a mandatory,

but not really. Uh, and so there is animosity in that sense, but there's not animosity in the sense of this is a rival. Um, Davis does not view him in that way at all. None, none,

none whatsoever. something i'd agree with that all right by the way also on this card uh real quickly in the co-main eris landy laura is still around taking on gary o sullivan can you set this one up for the fans at home laura has had a pretty decorated career but where is he in his career at this stage so he's in the twilight but he's still dangerous in this twilight what i mean by that is he moved up to 160, kind of just looking for new opportunities. Lara's always been willing to fight anyone and everyone, right? Like he ended up getting that Canelo pay-per-view kind of because he crashed Canelo's press conference the fight before and grabbed the microphone and was like, with all due respect, Canelo, I think I can beat you. And that, that was the way to Canelo's heart

because it pissed Alvarez the hell off and he got that fight. But what I'm saying is he was always willing to move up and fight triple G. He just couldn't get, you know, he couldn't get the, get it done. And he was willing to move up and wait to do that. We saw the end of his great junior middleweight title reign, which had, you know, had stretches before and after the close Canelo loss, uh, in which he started to slow down. And the good news for us as fans is him slowing down meant he was forced to fight or flight, right? And he would choose to fight. He had the fight of the year, split decision loss to Jarrett Hurd.

That's just incredible. He had that draw with Brian Castaño where, you know, when Lara has to bite down and fight his way out, dude, he's not only capable, it's fun as shit to watch. You remember that brawl he had with Alfredo Angulo, which was surprising at the time, but Lara is about that when he shit to watch. You remember that brawl he had with Alfredo Angulo, which was surprising at the time. But, like, Lara is about that when he has to be. He wants smoke now at middleweight, Luke.

He's having trouble attracting those names, and most of them are outside of the PBC, especially because it looks like Jamal Charlo is moving up. But he's fighting Spike O'Sullivan, who's a name, fought top-tier competition before, can talk a little bit. He fought Munguia on DAZN, right? Absolutely. That's right, I remember that one.

Munguia pasted him, though. I mean, if Lara's still Lara, he should somewhat easily put it on Spike O'Sullivan. But the good news is O'Sullivan comes to fight, so there is potential for that action. But I like Lara to slice him up just as easily as he had that last mismatch against um Cornflake Lamanna where the first punch seemingly Erislandi threw he got a first round knockout but Luke could you imagine an old Lara in the sharpshooter role as a smallish middleweight knowing he's gonna have to fight a little bit like that's gonna be a fun version of him to watch yes it could be it could be also I'm so used to seeing Laura on the back foot which I

guess O'Sullivan's going to try to do but I don't think he's going to be able to do it for a whole lot of time I think Laura's going to eventually either catch him coming in or the roles will be reversed actually so it'll be nice to see Laura Laura excuse me in something a more of an offensive um opportunity I'll put it that way. A little bit more opportunity because against Canelo, his margin of error was so thin and you could still argue that he beat him,

but you just can't make mistakes against Canelo in the way that you could probably get away with making them against O'Sullivan. So that should be kind of interesting as well. His mistake against Canelo,

I think, was ultimately lack of activity. That was really it because when you watch highlight reels of either guy's success... But the problem is Canelo is a very

effective counter-puncher or catch-and-shooter. You've got to be real careful about when you throw. But the thing is, he made Canelo chase him, and he made Canelo chase him unsuccessfully, so the optics looked really bad, which I think helped Lara's favor, but when you

don't throw enough to leave no doubt in a fight that good and that close, it's Lara Lara's fault in the end but when you see just the highlights of the success he had dude he was piecing Canelo up with those left crosses I mean he was absolutely giving Canelo you know trouble which which is fun to see at that time but um I love Lara good to see Luke good to see speaking of Canelo though right uh speaking of Canelo let's get to it now topic number four it was announced yesterday although a venue not to be was not announced to say that's to be determined they did show like pictures or b-roll of the t-mobile arena i think that's where

they probably want to do it but september 17th which of course is designed to coincide with mexican independence day canelo will fight Triple G for the trilogy. BC, the sports betting odds makers, have opened it up with Canelo as about a minus 350 favor. Triple G at plus 260. Boy, that is not that much. Let me ask you this. A, your impressions of what to expect the third time.

If Canelo had defeated Bivol, which we'll talk about why he didn't take that rematch, where would the odds be for this one? Wider. That's a great way to frame it. And I did that quick little reaction video yesterday. But my biggest points coming out of that were just kind of what you asked me. Whereas I don't think that we would have cared about this fight on the level,

nor had the opportunity to imagine it potentially being as competitive as it might be had we not just seen Canelo humanized against a fighter who, let's be fair, fights in a very Triple G style in B-Ball, who showed Canelo no respect through combinations, got inside with his jab, but worked well from that middle distance and the longer distance as well. I mean, it was just clinical from B-Ball in terms of the execution. Triple G's

40, and they're a little bit past it. No one's questioning that. But in terms of being as interested as you could be for this, Luke, I would say if Canelo hadn't lost to B-Vol, I would have been like, oh man, I don't know if I really want to see Gennady get hurt.

Because the expectation right now is that pound-for-pound version of Canelo could could eventually stop 40 year old Triple G um every great warrior still has one one more left in them to pour out that jug and and kind of elevate themselves one last time to put up the best fight that they have when you add in Luke Thomas the the dislike between them the fact that these are fact that this is Triple G's only career defeat he's trying to avenge, and now all four super middleweight titles, so that adds another wrinkle on top. I'm not saying this is going to be Marquez Pacquiao 4. Dude, boxing has you by the balls. It's unbelievable. Parallels, dude. Those parallels are enough to get you to go to the theater

and buy the 18th sequel of Rocky, right? Like, you're just like, I know I've seen this before, but yeah, Luke, this gets me more interested. And I think there's always going to be interest on the casual fan level, which is the hardest fan base typically to crack. But for the case of Triple G Canelo, I think that's a slam dunk with casual fans.

Because guess what? This rivalry is one of the rare modern pay-per-view brands that have delivered your money on pay-per-view, like above and beyond. They've been two all-action classics, right? Just brilliant fights. This third one, you get older rivals together one more time, you typically get the most action that you get in the series, but because it's the last and normal final chapter of these rivalries, you tend to also get the older fighter of the two, you know, could be close to going. And that's still in play with this, Luke. But would you agree with my same level of optimism slash just raw, rabid love that the B-Ball fight kind of made this look like a big deal again. I'd say that the fact that he lost to B-Ball the way that he did

gives me perhaps a little bit more confidence in what I would have ordinarily had for Triple G this time around. With you, I thought he won the first one. Second one, I thought Canelo won. And then who the hell knows what's going to happen here. But as we've indicated, you've got Canelo who has moved perfectly into his prime. Granted, this venture at 175 has not gone exactly to plan.

But in general, he's very much in his prime. And you've got Triple G who has moved out of his prime, but still somewhere not too far from it, right? As we saw against Murata. A little bit of trouble early and then just demolished him late. So, okay, fair enough. I think that the titles being on the line, the 168 is just a huge part of why this one should be taken a little bit more seriously than maybe some skeptics think that it should. And I also have to say, the fact that he didn't go back to the b-ball well to me is really kind of interesting and important here I don't know exactly why he didn't I'm going to ask you why you think he did but to me I think he is intensely motivated by the b-ball fight and I think he subsequently this is my theory BC see what you think of it I think he subsequently, this is my theory, BC, see what you think of it.

I think he went back and he watched it and thought about it and realized he was a little bit further away from winning than he wanted to be, but still believes he can do it. In order to do that, I think wants to get in more work, more game planning, more strategizing, something. He wants to get right again, go into that fight again with a W behind him, which of course he did this time, but if he went to the rematch with Bivol, it would not be that case.

I think there's a lot of factors about using this as something of a, not that he's looking past it, but I still think he has his sights set on a rematch with Bivol, but wants to make sure that when he goes into it, every T is crossed and every I is dotted. I is dotted, yes. And to get there, he has to go through this the right way.

Does that make sense? It does. I don't agree that's his lead motivation. I agree with what you're saying is a partial percentage of the pie chart, Yes. And also, you know, you talk about a potential brand reviver, which is what you were basically saying. If he goes in there and knocks out Golovkin and, you know, puts a hammer on to end their rivalry there and say, forget about the judging controversy, right? Like, I handled you every time in terms of the judge's opinion and now the opinion of me knocking you out. Yeah, he's going to go into that B-ball fight.

That fight's going to be even bigger and all that but dude i think this is 75 percent more uh business and financial related and here's why i think he had to i think it was already contracted that that i don't know this for sure but the but the win or lose based on the first b-ball fight that this triple g fight was definitely going to happen this fall so i think there was some potential you know actual contract leverage in there mixed with this part look canelo can do whatever he wants he's the number one you can go wherever he wants he's he's no one has the leverage he has but the zone built their entire entire model in what they're doing in boxing on the idea of getting canelo Triple G three to be sort of the first fight when initially they were pitching non pay-per-views. Right. We're we're we're the we're the anti pay-per-view provider.

That was sort of the fight they looked at. This is how we're going to compete with everybody else in the space. Well, since then, they've done a good job, you know, kind of competing and building up their image even without getting that, even though they signed Canelo that that huge deal. And even Triple G, they signed for way more money than they should have, but really under the idea that this is going to guarantee the third fight. Well, it didn't happen. Canelo didn't want it. I still don't think he actually wants it. But now Canelo's back and happy again with DAZN and Eddie Hearn as his promoter, and I think part of that, Luke, was either contractually obligated to

or just, look, I know the fans want this, I know the network wants it, I know the promotion wants i know the promotion wants it it's going to be a lot of money canelo knows he's going to be favored yeah let's appease the fans and everybody and then we'll go back to doing what i'm doing and i like that canelo essentially said that publicly in the past few days that okay we'll do triple g next but i'm going to come back after that and fight b vol again and whether that's misguided or not you gotta love the the the competitor in canelo to say that in my opinion and whatever got him back here luke whether it's

completely my percentage breakdown or more of what you're saying um the sport could use this fight i think it's going to be you know i think all those factors coming in are going to make it feel bigger than it would have if canelo hadn't lost but lu, Luke, here's my biggest fear for Triple G. Not just that the reflexes have slowed and that he's gotten into sort of brawls with guys. In some cases, he wouldn't have or shouldn't have in the past, right? He got the win, beat Murata in Japan, survived that war with Derevyanchenko, right? Even, like, the Steve Rolls fight. Even these fights, you're like, man, why is he taking this? Why are these guys hitting him flush? I've never seen that before.

If you do notice one like, man, why is he taking this? Why are these guys hitting him flush? I've never seen that before. If you do notice one thing, Luke, unless Canelo was standing right in front of Triple G like he did in the second half of their rematch, Triple G could not catch up to Canelo's speed with his left hook or his right power hand at all in the first two fights. Meaning the first fight, Triple G won that basically on his jab. Triple G's footwork, fundamentals, and setups are so damn strong that once he starts angling you and cutting off the ring, he's going to get his jab

and he scored with it. But go back and watch the highlights from that first fight in particular, dude. Anytime Triple G would sit down and try to throw real shots, Canelo got the F out of there. So Canelo now for that rematch, to his credit,

was more offensive and just came at Triple G and they had some great sequences in there. So Canelo now for that rematch, to his credit, was more offensive and just came at Triple G and they had some great sequences in there. But I'm not confident, especially now two, three years older, that Triple G is going to be able to stay with Canelo's speed for this fight to be fun, Luke, and for Triple G to have a chance.

He's got to just basically in my opinion be like, fuck it. Knock me out then. Because he's going to put himself in my opinion be like fuck it uh knock me out then because he's going to put himself in that position luke do you agree with that in theory i think he's gonna have to yeah yeah i would but i gotta tell you that's not okay well i don't know what my top concern for triple g is that might be one of them i think you raise a pretty good point actually let me spit it right back to you though because this is just where my head's at and i don't know how valid this is i gotta tell you derivianchenko

and murata were hurting him in ways i did not see previous opponents be able to like kelbrook granted was coming up and whatever but dude kelbrook was a fucking hammer too man like he couldn't really do shit to him uh granted this is a 168 you know this is a completely different weight class this is a different time in their career but dude Murata was hurting him to the body Derevyanchenko was was was matter-of-factly slowing him down how durable is not saying the chin so much but how durable is Triple G anymore okay we're gonna find out is the first answer but number two that's the key question Luke he has one of the greatest chins that I've ever seen. And I don't think he even gets enough love.

The dude's never been down. Like, there's sequences in the Danny Jacobs fight, Luke, where he took like two, three flush combinations in which his head and neck and chin got like jacked. And dude, he just keeps coming. I mean, every time Canelo, even in the second fight, was lighting him up. Maybe Triple G took like a quarter step, neutral, deep breath, but he's coming right back to throw. I've always asked him, because I've interviewed him a million times, and he's a joy to talk with.

I love me some Triple G, but I've always said like, dude, you had like 250 amateur fights, you know, or 350, you have another 50, you know, closing in pro fights, probably by the end, like, you know, 400 fights total, like you never been down. He's like, no, I'm like, you never even been buzzed. And no, and I always ask him that kind of a joke, but I keep asking him it and look, you know, I even asked him about the Danny Jacobs, the Canelo fights. He's like, no, I don't feel anything was normal., Luke, there's a cyborg in there. How much will he need of that? Does he have enough left to outlast, you know, what Canelo's going to give him?

That's why we tune in. It could go bad, but he also might have one more stand in him, Luke, where he's willing to take zombie-like damage to keep throwing back. You never know, dude. You can't count him out here you can't you should be a boxing promoter no one believes in the implausible and unlikely narratives of boxing more than you it's amazing which i almost say which i say complimentary actually because you're a hardcore boxing fan you know you're gonna be you're gonna be dark and angry and cynical all

the time if you don't have some romanticized pro wrestling movie angle to look at every fight for sure. But, uh, dude, the one, okay. The one thing about triple G along with that chin,

Luke still punches really fricking hard. The only guy who's been able to like, you know, make Canelo do things that Canelo didn't want to more or less short of B-ball. And dude, he does have that, that technique.

And that like like you know what i mean like it's not going to be easy for canelo to straight about box him if he wanted to go that route like they're gonna have to fight dude so all right let's let's see yeah i'm back in i'm back in all the way now luke also this is going to be on the zone pay-per-view which when it was sold to us in this market DAZN was explicitly explicitly sold as oh you see those other dumb asses paying for pay-per-views each time just pay us once a month and you get everything now there is an entire division known as DAZN pay-per-view because hello that business model doesn't work for shit so here we are not surprised motherfuckers yeah

i mean seriously we have a fifth topic i don't have a whole lot to say about it we kind of touched on it on the on the monday show which was this ice wars thing but did you i mean i just wanted to say a couple things about it bc i mean this is like i don't know it's it's a weird it's a weird thing it probably would have been better on Monday but the only point I wanted to make here is dude like if you watch Ice Wars I want to be very clear about this dude these are the drug addicts who will like go to a 7-eleven and buy all of the NyQuil they can just to get the codeine out to mix it together in their bathtub. It's your friend who watches so much pornography

that nothing does it for them anymore, and they have to find the most awful and rancid varieties just to feel normal. If you're an MMA fan who has watched Ice Wars, that's you. You're the guy who has shoplifted NyQuil to go drink codeine. So you're saying I've often called BKFC the last stop,

the bottom of the combat sports food chain. Dude, BKFC is Versailles compared to Ice Wars. You're saying that Ice Wars is Circus Circus on the Vegas Strip and BKFC is like MGM Grand, right? That's basically what you're saying right now. Ice Wars is not even Circus Circus. Ice Wars is if the bang bus is being driven around and you get into it for a ride.

That's Ice Wars. It's targeting extremes, the extreme CTE market. I mean, you're basically going after washed-up minor league journeyman hockey goons. You know what I mean? That's like the market, and I get it because it's run by the guys who had the Danbury Trashers minor league hockey team,

which is right down the road from where I grew up and that was a thing for a couple years like you knew if you went to those games with your friends like you were gonna like we didn't know about the mafia backing or maybe we didn't follow the news close enough to know but I knew more that like oh like that whole hockey thing is built around fighting like there's no like they don't I don't even know if they care if they win obviously they did we saw the documentary on how they, you know, bought all these players and stuff, and it's a fun, nostalgic story.

But, like, those guys are about fighting, and AJ Galante, the son, ended up becoming a boxing promoter and manager for some time. So I get it, but, man, that's, who's buying that, Luke? Hockey fans or fight fans? You're saying basically the, like,

the people that will you know those people we love on on twitter luke that that watch every single boxing and mma pay-per-view and tweet about it you know those guys yeah but even they aren't like super big on ice wars like they'll pay attention to it you know because yes they're in that life but i'm talking about the people who like if you watched ice wars beginning to end it's a 100 like you know that joke where it's like all these bloggers in their mom's basement no for real you're in your mom's basement like like i realize that that's a joke that most people are not in their mom's basement and then the mom's basement is supposed to be metaphorical but ice wars fans you can't have an

actual job and watch that right like if you are at all fuckable to someone who is you know like it's all right here we go what i mean do you fuck chigs i mean what are we doing we're trying i don't mean that i don't mean that i don't mean like in a bully sense but i'm just saying are you remotely human enough to make you know uh yourself sexually attracted to whoever it is you're trying to make yourself sexually attracted to like the kind of depravity and like how much time you have in your hands to watch something like this is dude bkfc is like several levels above this i just find it like they are really there's a there's do you put it best bt it's the cte market it's like dude fuck all this rules about health and safety and all this shit.

And like, these are real athletes and whatnot. No, I want to see people get fucked up for the purposes of watching them get fucked up. Like, this is what, you know, faces of death was when we were small, right? The whole idea was like, no, there's real deaths. No, but like the cell to us was like, oh my God, I'm going to pay this to see real deaths. And you got that and then do you remember in the early 2000s uh bum fights was like the the greasy gross bottom of the food chain video like we devoured those at that age they went they went along with recreational drugs perfectly it was a it was a nice marriage you know um i mean i guess you know watched bum fights i mean

bum fights are kind of like what barstool is now right in a way it's like it's tapping into that market i was that market luke i've seen every bum fights there is now looking back it was pretty gross it's basically i mean there's been times in my life where i was like oh yeah let's watch these people who just agreed to street fight in the street and then you know it was no big deal but as you get older you're like wow that's really wow we are the lowest of the low we are the barnacle on the ship. To be fair, when I first started watching the Kimbo Backyard Ones, I got that same feeling.

It's a grimy feeling that, like, you know it's gross, but you're also like, man, this is fucking cool. I mean, dude, the first time you watched Sean Gannon versus Kimbo in that warehouse, dude, that's some grimy real shit going on. That's closer to Faces of Death than any of those videos, right? Yeah, that's true. I mean, again, but that's not like that was a one-off fight between people who agreed to it.

That's different than someone being like, hey, we have a brand, and our whole brand is just brain damage. That's just what we don't do shit else. We don't do shit else. It's just that. Like, dude, there's going to be like slap fighting started on hip-hop radio stations and then kind of turned into something?

You know, I don't know if Ice Wars is going to do that per se, but it's on par with slap fighting. Like, it's just, it's going to evolve into people just show up and then someone hits them in the head with a hammer and then they live stream it on YouTube. It's going to turn into a Tom and Jerry cartoon. Are you saying our number one fan, Damien the Donk of the 209, might be an Ice Wars customer? Is that what you're saying?

Listen, I'm saying if we broadcast from an Ice Wars event, do you think they would put us in the concourse, or would they put us? Oh, wow. God, that's a good inside joke. I mean, that's a knockout blow right there. That is so good. Wow. Yes. that's a good inside joke. I mean, that's a knockout blow right there. That is so good. Wow.

Yes. It's a joke. You should create a Reddit page just for that, Luke. It's a joke. It's a joke. I'm just saying. It's a joke. All right.

Luke, let's transition to our next segment in which every week we give you, the fan, the opportunity to be heard, seen, to have us judge whether you should be sleeping with your students in france you know what i'm saying david like i mean i mean you know is that looking a little creepy there they do documentaries about guys like you you know i probably would have thought you were my hero 20 years ago but i've matured david thank you uh all right look the whole point is morning combat at gmail.com is your entry into this vortex of weirdness at Memke. I'm being told right now by Mikey that David A. has a wild submission for next week. Okay.

Now I'm looking forward to it. He says apparently he submitted it too late this week, but okay, we'll see you next week. Okay. I didn't think this guy cared of limitations of age or consent. I mean, whatever. All right. The whole point is you know, limitations of age or consent. I mean, you know, whatever. All right. The whole point is you want to show yourself wearing our merch. That's the email address to find out.

That's where you meet Mikey. You're not getting us. Don't DM. Don't get in my DMs with this kind of bullshit. Hit that email right there for Friday Dead Wrongs and every Wednesday right here when we do fan submissions. We've got male viewers. Yes. Yes.

Luke, name five female MK viewers. You can't, right? Try. You can cross off any family member that I have. Okay, try to name three. Can you name any? Can you name one? The RV couple couple there's one

there jen bill and jen yep yep good old norm yep um melissa loves nachos okay that's two that's two that's two um snarky red ginger come on i guess that guess that'd be three. I couldn't name more. Nicola from the chat from the UK? Oh, yeah, Nicola, yeah. Yeah, you're like, yeah, she ain't South American, is she? All right, all right, Luke. Let's start off with our first submission from a man named Scott. He says, Lucas, rate this bitch-ass office gym. I mean, for an office gym, it's not that bad.

You got the rower. You got the cardio machine. You got a few cardio machines, some stair mats. I can't see the dumbbells. They're over his head, Luke. You got a... I know, but I'm saying I can't see how heavy they go. I can only see that there's a few of them.

He's got an adjustable bench, and he's got a cross trainer in the back corner. I mean, you can make that work. It's fairly low-T, though, Luke, you'd say, overall. Yeah, it's like one step up from the Howard Johnson Hotel where people just overdose in their sleep and have to get pulled off of their shit-stained mattress with a spatula.

Where they have a gym-slash-mother's room. Yeah, that's great. Okay. All right. Luke, this one's from Saul. And he says, oh, this is going to be that bearded guy with the chicks. Yeah, that's our guy right there.

Oh, look at that pup. He says, Sunday fun day, took the dogs named Floyd and Booker to mingle at the bluegrass pug fest. There were hundreds of pugs and very other fine dogs with no training whatsoever. I signed Booker up to the dog race and he came in second place. Yeah.

Get that. How many people with annoying whiskey or IPA opinions are there at the bluegrass pug festival? IPA opinions. Saul went on to say he got a baggie of treats and a custom second place cookie and of course i have to rep the award-winning show merch and spreading the gospel of mk all day every day including at the pug fest that's saul uh luke ruka ruka yes ruka ruka thomas is my name uh the dog dogs are tremendous, and the shirt is tremendous.

This gentleman is tremendous. I can only imagine the humanity. Dude, going to a bluegrass pug festival, that's like one step up from the Renaissance Festival, right? Yes, yeah. Dude, can we talk? I mean, remember when W. Kamau Bell was like, we need to talk about Bill Cosby.

Look, we need to talk about the people that go to those Renaissance fairs in costume and really just, yeah, yeah. Dude, they've just given up on life. I mean, they just punted completely. It's like I had this bean and cheese burrito from 7-Eleven on the way here, you know, in your car with no AC in the middle of August just so you can dress up from a time of like basically human despair is really the reality there uh Luke do you um do you think those those same people go to uh

uh Cannibal Corpse concerts it's no they're different it's a different kind of loser it's probably a crossover they probably like prog rock though so I probably cross it it's Corpse concerts? No, they're a different kind of loser. It's probably a crossover. They probably like prog rock, though, so I'd probably cross it. Dude, I told you, it's like when you go to WrestleMania and you're like, oh, it's going to be dudes just like me, like fight fans and sports fans there, right? No, it's a Halloween party.

They just didn't tell you you're supposed to show up dressed like your favorite wrestler. No, it's going to be a Halloween party with type 2 diabetes everywhere. That's what's gonna be wow dude with bed sores right there you go okay let's just keep it going uh this one's from kent by the way we're insulting all of these people like we're better we're we're at bare minimum uh just as bad probably fucking worse yeah yeah yeah. We used to be like you, and now we're just a tiny bit cooler.

Just, I mean, barely. This is Kent saying, Hello, BC and LT. I'm an avid recreational Muay Thai practitioner and overall combat fan, so imagine my excitement when I saw this donk hat hanging in the changing room of my gym. No way. Someone else other than my girlfriend I complained to about Luke's inability to figure out consumer technology, I thought.

I waited outside the change room to see who would walk out with it. Alas, no one did. This went on for about a week. I soon figured out that much like BC's commitment to overall liver health, it had been abandoned. It's probably no coincidence that shortly thereafter, I kept seeing another member wearing a Hoani nose t-shirt. All jokes aside, keep up the good work.

Love the show. And if the hat in the changing room is there next time, I'll give it to the Jay Aaron treatment and begrudgingly give it a home. It's love from Toronto, Kent. If you're going to give it the Jay Aaron treatment, throw it in the garbage if you're gonna give it the jay aaron treatment throw it in the garbage yeah yeah get rid of it please uh indeed no that's uh okay luke i mean that wasn't that rj's idea we'll we'll we'll hide free mk merch in every gym and uh and you know other establishment in the country we're like no our listeners don't work out please don't tell you

what yeah they don't live weights at all i i would tell you though i would be very happy if like i randomly was in walking around town and i saw someone with mk merch that would make me very happy yeah would you would you shout them out because they yeah i would because it definitely would mean that i would not run into my family because there would be no chance on earth they would wear it so yeah uh look does pepe have like any side of him where he'd be like yo tweeting out just to his followers of like fine females being like yo rep my brother-in-law show morning combat no no he wouldn't wear like a mk hat or any there's nothing to do like yard work or something it would clash with his libido probably, Luke. I hear you there.

All right. Bob says, this is me doing my two favorite movements, bar muscle-ups and snatches. Luke can try and guess the weight on the bar, but it's 195. I just wanted to let you two young whippersnappers know that it's never too late. Hey, that's pretty good. At 46, I'm still trying to be the biggest gym rat on earth at 6'2", 230. What do you think, Luke?

Yeah, I mean, listen. You know, not the cleanest snatch on earth, but the muscle up was really nice. No, I was talking about him. You're talking about his form, Luke. Yes, yes. Didn't he ask me to? Let me see form, Luke. Yes, yes. Didn't he ask me to? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, sorry.

I was just doing skits and bits. Sorry, Luke. Yeah, I mean, there's a little bit. I mean, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of problems with the snatch. But, I mean, he's a hobbyist, so, like, whatever. He's working on it. Like, there's not, you know, it's fine. Thank you for wearing our merch.

Yeah, well done, Bob. I'm sure he's probably got higher T than me, though. But he's out there working. Yeah, he's got higher T than both of us combined. Yeah, probably. All right, this is from Andrew. He says, hey, guys, I've been working on this a while, listening to the last couple of podcasts.

I've really gotten out of the habit of making art. So this is a bit of a rusty attempt. Still got a good laugh out of the final result. Hopefully you two will laugh as well. Keep up the good work. It's Andrew S. He included a safe for work, aka unfunny edition, Luke.

Just in case the crude drawing was above BC. Isn't safe to air. So Luke, the non-safe for work edition had our thoughts in a bubble above it, right? And your thoughts were like the stuff that Matt Damon was writing on the board in Good Will Hunting. Like the math quadratic equations in Harvard. And mine was two boobs and a hot dog to hold in between the bun, Luke.

Yeah. There it is. All right. There it is. There it is. I mean, thank you. This is my full-time job. Thank you.

Okay. I don't have anything to add to that. I just want you to stew in your ignominy. Yeah, that's great. Okay, Henry is here. Hey guys, just like to say a huge thanks for all the entertainment over the last 300 episodes. You guys have helped me

drown out the dribbling bullshit of white trash passengers on my three-hour train commutes many a time. Here I am enjoying the show at home after completely blowing out my shoulder playing rugby over the weekend. It was the single most painful moment of my life, but vaping on that damn anesthetic hit different.

Anyway, much love, fellas. Hope to see you on the shore sometime. It's your biggest British P1 fan. It's Henry. Luke, any thoughts on this? How do you imagine, because the British the the british equivalent of jersey shore was geordie shore oh yeah the geordie shore yep yeah how like how do their dirt bags compare to ours oh they're similar do you know the boxer the sandman lewis ritson who's from the geordie shore

draws massive crowds to like that newcastle area all around there um when he fights his nickname his secondary nickname is Jordy Golovkin which is hilarious I guess to me I guess to boxing fans all right sorry Luke uh back to Henry did you like his uh living room Luke his court management his his court yes his uh cable management is not bad. It's not bad. And his shoulder looks like shit, but, you know, as a guy who's had a bunch of shoulder problems, I say, welcome to the club. Isn't rugby like driving a motorcycle without a helmet, Luke?

Yeah, I had a friend of mine who played semi-pro rugby, so he wasn't good enough for, like, the high level, but he was pretty good. And he was telling me that they would have alumni weekends for people who used to play. And he was like, dude, half of them come back and they're drooling. They can't talk, and it's all kinds of shit. Yeah, that's exactly what he said, dude.

He said it was bad. He said the CTE in rugby is extraordinary. Wow. Wow, Luke. Yeah. Well, okay. Hey, let's get Bob in here to make us happy. Rate My Gym.

It's built in response to the pandemic. Let's see what Bob's doing here. This looks like the shelter of a serial killer. No, dude. That's an organized home gym right there, Luke. Look at that. That is an organized home gym, although I would not put your barbells like that. Oh, boy.

He's got a fan. He's got MK. Oh, no, actually, he's got a lot of stuff. He's got kettlebells. He's got women's weights. He's got men's weights. He's got a board there for programming. He's got pull-up bars.

I don't see a squat rack, though. I guess you could rack it on the front of the pull-up bar. But you see how I'll show you one thing, and you're going to say, oh, this is all pedantic. And it is. This home gym is much nicer than mine, to be clear. In every way, it's nicer. But one thing.

Pay attention to how the barbells are standing straight up and down in the little container. Keep going. Keep going. Don't stop. You stop right there. Right there. See that? See the barbells are up and down?

That will shorten the life of them over time. You'll ruin your own barbells are up and down that will shorten the life of them over time you'll you'll ruin your own barbells doing that the springs inside are not meant for sideways loading my dad doesn't like when you do it that way i always had to say that to the other kids because my dad was a lot like you luke in what way was your dad like me well it's weird that you both look exactly like right now this is just weird um but you know it was just you know my dad's very careful and knows everything like you do and you know yeah yeah it sounds like your dad rocks you can call me dad if it makes you feel better no i do it wouldn't it wouldn't at. Okay. I will allow Poppy as well. You can call me Poppy.

Don't call me daughter, though. Okay? Don't call me daughter. This is Alex saying, what's up, Donks? I paused Monday's show to create this meme. Love the content. It's Alex from Atlanta. Hotlanta, apparently.

BC making Luke watch Rolly Romero. That was good entertainment you know luke sometimes we put through we on days that really have no business to we tend to put out our best content you know it's true it's true and this this meme is hilarious dude no one gets into the minutia of roly romero's life more than b Campbell. I mean, not even his coach. What was his coach's name? Like Bullet something? Bullet. Yeah, Bullet.

Not even Bullet has the appetite for it that you do. Yeah. Appetite for destruction. This is from Danger Mouse. He says, ABC, much like Luke's gallbladder problems, your boy Danger Mouse is back. Kind of funny last week I sent in the fan sub about Room Service Diaries about 20 minutes before you announced its return,

which brings me to the first meme. I'm not sure if either of you guys are fans of the book or TV miniseries Generation Kill? Kit? Kill? Generation Kill, yes. I suspect Luke might have seen it because it's about his beloved Marine Corps. So after his rant about the Air Force last week, which did not go down well with the Air Force guys in the chat room,

I decided to give him a starring role in this meme. Luke, I'm sure that chat room's full of normally amazing. I came up with Delta. Yeah, I mean, listen, people can say what they want about my service. My service was exemplary. I did a great job, and there's nothing anyone can do to impugn it. So make the jokes. I got one message

to Danger Mouse. Do you like your freedom? How do you like your freedom? Thank him. I like it with my fries. Freedom fries. Thank this reservist for getting your back, Gatch. That's right. Yeah. Look, you're like a

non-fighting tim kennedy you're a hero let's go over to connor he says happy wednesday my dudes here are my memes for your perusal really digging the revamped rsd looking forward to what's to come in the future uh it's wow look that, that's, whose body is that? Is that Brian Barbarina? I think it's Brian Barbarina's. Oh my God, that navel tattoo says 49 times, Luke. Does it really? Like blow back up, blow back up.

I couldn't read it. Okay, that's really good. That's really funny. Oh, that's so good. BC the best part is is even if i got on trt i don't think my physique would look any better than that is that an armenian flag in your right hand there no that's the colombian flag it's going oh sorry about that that's why it has to be barbarina because he's the only one who comes out with well that's not true some other guys do it as well but i'm pretty sure that's brian barbara all right all right uh connor had two photos am i missing one here

yeah here's the second one what is he what we got here i mean look you could have a little flavor not just it doesn't just say verbatim it says verbatim in all caps boldeded, italicized, and underlined. And BC's like, that's just a suggestion. I'm like, I don't think that's a suggestion, bro. I mean, I got all the words in, Luke. I just tried to put a little pepper on that steak. You know what I mean?

But that's not verbatim. That's not what verbatim means. Just read it exactly as it is. Yes, yes, yes, officer. Finally, Todd says, hi, guys. Touch your nose. I started thinking about mk delta 8 and thought you could use some branding oh i like this what do we got here

delta 13 no that's 8 luke 5 plus 3 in the roman numeral come on is it 5 plus 3 oh you're right i'm sorry yes it is my mistake yes From the Land of Wind and Ghosts. I gotta say, we look way too cool. Yeah, I kinda like this. I kinda like this a lot. I feel uncomfortable about it because anytime... Here's the thing. I like sharing artwork where we look bad because I know that... Not that we won't get clowned for it. We still would. But I don't know. When we share artwork of us where we look too cool, I'm that like not that we won't get clowned for it we still would but like I don't know when we share artwork of us where we look

too cool I'm always like dude someone's gonna know that I really don't look this cool and they're gonna say it you know what I mean like I have a hard time sharing it I mean they do a lot where they give us like muscles and stuff and like abs and yeah it's like no I don't know I'm not he man

but no I like this because it's got an illuminati feel to it right uh does it it has more like a psychedelic feel to it yeah they could go together in the right world depending on what record i'm playing luke you know you never know um that's it though for fan submissions this week morning combat at gmail.com is the receptacle that you can toss that shiat into if you want to get on this show or if you think we've said something wrong for friday now just a reminder that we will not be having a traditional live friday show but at 11 a.m eastern time friday the same time that we normally go you're going to get that episode two of the revamped Room Service Diaries interview series. And it's Sean Brady, 15-0 UFC welterweight contender, knocking on that door.

So, Luke, we took him to the casting couch. He came in looking one way. He came out with a drug rug. So, you know, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, sorry. Luke was right. V in Roman numerals is five and X is 10. I was about to say, I could have sworn X was.

Yeah, that was actually 13 because it comes after. If it came before, it'd be three minus 10. It'd be seven. I mean, you did save your college notes. So I'm going to go with you in the end on this. Dude, why do you think that is disreputable? I would love to know. What is disreputable about that? What do you think the percentage is of our 109 000 youtube subscribers 110 still that still have

their college notes loot dude i'm not living in a way where i'm prescribing it as something others should do it's i don't understand why i shouldn't do it like if you didn't want to keep the notes just chuck them but if it makes you happy it can't be that bad that's what i'm saying bro that's what i'm saying i'm not trying to tell you how to live if it if it makes you happy then why the hell are you so sad right you know what i'm saying dude my mom my mom brought this up and every time i i now that i've heard it i can never hear it anymore i never tell stories about my mom brought this up and every time i i now that i've heard it i can never hear it anymore i never told stories about my mom but this is one i will tell which was she hated cheryl crowe for like the worst reason ever and it was all you want her reason was if you go back

and you listen once you hear it you'll never be able to unhear it the the line of the song is all i wanna do is have some fun right yeah but if you listen closely she doesn't really say have all she ever says is all i want to do is have some fun and it used to drive my mom fucking crazy and now when i hear it i'm always like yo mom was right about this woman she fucking sucks did it sound like an armenian swear no it just bothered my mom that she was like, why can't this singer fully enunciate? You can see where I get it from. You know what I'm saying?

I can see. Yeah, I can see where you get it from. Shout out to Sean Brady, to our fine listeners and watchers. You know, Luke, I don't know. Actually, I don't know what I was about to say. It's a slow week, dude. It's a slow week. I mean, Tank versus Roley is there to, like, throw a lifeline to us,

and I'm happy for it. But in the totality of everything, it's a bit of a slow week. Yeah, Memorial Day weekend. So, you know, we're almost signing off here, Luke, in some ways. We almost are. I want to remind everyone, if you want to get Showtime, Showtime.com is the label that pays. You can go to Show.com 30-day free trial if you like it you can keep it as a reminder tank versus rolly this weekend however we'll be on showtime ppv pay-per-view

i think you can go to showtime.com slash ppv if i'm not mistaken um for that uh so that will be on saturday in brooklyn new york bc will be there i in Brooklyn, New York. BC will be there. I have to watch my kids, so I will not. We will be having a few special things if you like morning combat and you like all things Showtime Boxing here with this great matchup. I will be part of the weigh-in team, as I mentioned. That goes

down Friday at noon Eastern on Showtime Sports social media and YouTube channels. And also, there's going to be a post-MK show of some kind in Brooklyn, New York, your boy BC, maybe some special guests after Davis Romero on Saturday. There may be even something else too. So keep your eyes and ears posted, all right? How many times?

Now, if you're staying in Brooklyn, are you going to Uber Eats or are you just going to walk around? No, I'm going to Uber Eats, bro, all right how many times you know are you are if you're staying in brooklyn are you gonna uber eats you're just gonna walk around no i'm gonna uber eats bro all right what's the uber eats go to dude why would you uber eats in fucking brooklyn new york just go outside i mean i've i've i've i've done that dude but i've been going to the barclays a long time you know what i'm saying look now i try to stay in the room because the first time i was exploring and some guy gave me the cd and i'm like I don't want the CD, you know? And then he's like, no, I really want you to have the CD. And I was like, all right, if you really, like, if that's the only way this conversation is going to end, me taking the CD, then I wish you well, I'll give it a listen, you know, see you at the Waterbury open next week, you know, basically,

but Luke, then the guy's following me down the street. And then, you know, basically in the end, it was I divorced the CD. I said, I'm no longer in it. OK, like, you know, it's not me. It's you. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want this. And then, you know, Luke, I came back afterwards and everybody's like, dude, you took the CD. You don't ever take the CD, right?

Yeah, I never take it. I never. Yeah, that's there it is alright let's see BC already gave you the email

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