MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC 279: Diaz Subs Ferguson | Khamzat Chimaev | Paul-Silva Presser Reaction | Ep 347

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

On Episode 347 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian are in Las Angeles for the Jake Paul vs. Anderson Silva Press Conference. The guys react to the presser the cover all things UFC 279. Where does Nate Diaz go next? What are the guys thoughts of Tony at welterweight? What fights can you make for Khamzat Chimaev? The guys break it all down. As always the close Monday's episode with DM's from Donks and HYSYS. (12:15) - Nate Diaz vs. Tony Ferguson (32:45) - Tony Ferguson (39:05) - Khamzat Chimaev Dominates (57:30) - Scoring Rodriguez-Jingliang (63:40) - Anderson Silva vs. Jake Paul Press Conference Reaction (74:00) - Dm's from Donks (90:00) - HYSYS Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Reveille, reveille, dogs. Look at us now, tip to tip. Reveille, Reveille, dogs. Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life. This is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat.

Hey, welcome to sunny Los Angeles. I don't even know who's hosting the show. Hi, everyone. Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas. We are here. It's 5 p.m. in the West. We normally don't do the show at this time. We normally do it at 11. It's 5 in the East right now.

I don't even know what fucking time it is. 2 in the West. Yes, 2 in the West, 5 in the East. I haven't slept all that well. But here we are, morning combat, fresh off of UFC 279. We are going to react as well. That's why we're here to the Jake Paul and Anderson Silva presser which was just on the other side of this wall these days.

I'd like to say something. Please. You all may have remembered on today's Showtime digital stream of the press conference when we had interviews with Jake Anderson and then Julia Rose slid in. She did. Unannounced, uninvited. She's a Jake. She just sat down.

Jake Paul's significant other and a big time influencer herself. She follows 252 people on Twitter right now. You're very proud of this. And you're looking at one of them, okay? All right. How did you get there? Did you follow her first? I did, but if you think that downgrades the achievement at all, you haven't.

Downgrades it a little. No, it really doesn't. Downgrades it a little, but it is a nice thing. Do you think steroids downgrades Barry Bonds' career? No. I think it elevated it. It elevated it, yeah. I think this elevated my brand

just a little bit more all right well I'm happy for you congratulations even more than the Delta a 10 even more than the Delta a so we have a lot to get to we are of course following the UFC 279 weekend we are up here of course we just indicated for the Paul and silver presser which was also a little weird. A little really weird. I mean, you have the picture up in the middle, and then Chael trying to explain to Anderson why he didn't go to his barbecue. I thought the funniest part was when he was like, in Brazil, he's like, oh, no, no, no, you'd be murdered on sight in Brazil.

Yeah. It'd have to be here. There was actually a lot of weird, funny one-liners and moments right there. We're going to get to that, though. The show is along with UFC 279 reactions because the people are waiting. They're itchy. Are we doing BC's feces today? We are doing that shit. I brought it with me to the West Coast.

Can we go to the Y? Does this make me look chubby or is it really my dietary choices? Am I pulling this off at all at this angle, Luke? I think you are, Mike. I think you are who you are. Luke, are you going to talk to the people about that lecture you tried to give me before the show started? The lecture? You're like, yo, BC, we've got to really actually try this about that lecture you tried to give me before the show started? The lecture? You're like, yo, BC, we've got to really actually try this show.

Well, BC was like, I mean, just ready to punt. He told me, he was like, I don't even want to talk about it. I just want to talk about these Delta 8s and going to Amoeba Records. That's all I care about. Yo, shout out to Amoeba Records. I've got to say, that's one of the most impressive record stores I've ever seen. I spent a lot of time in there yesterday. I've got to say something. I was, you never know about going to new city what you're gonna see

this is a little los angeles well there's a different parts of what they're not i'm not okay so the part were inward which is what hollywood the center of hollywood okay when hollywood we are literally staying on like hollywood by dude i thought the homeless problem in dc was bad and to be fair it's bad like i am not in any way saying it's anything other than bad dude these homeless people in l a is next level i cannot believe the number of them even though the state of the armed security guard off it's unbelievable it's sad too because like i'll be obviously

homeless is sad in general but like just be real for just a second, they're young. They're super young here. I'm building a tight 10 in comedy, but I don't usually touch homeless as material for that. So I was really just turned off by it. I did hear gunshots between 5 and 6 p.m. West Coast time last night. And then sirens. Also, let me tell you about this dirtbag. So I text him on the plane being like, hey, would you like to be a normal human and interact at some point when I land on the plane?

That's not how the interaction went at all. You're like, yo, BC, you got any drugs? Because I need them. I did. May or may not have asked about that. But then he was like, yeah, of course. It's fine. And then as soon as I land, I'm like, I get to the hotel.

I check in. Then I text him, radio silence. Radio silence the entire time. And then finally I get something this morning. Oh, bro, I was done at 6. You're a liar. And I know you're a liar. I passed out at 8. You're a liar. And I know you're a liar. I passed out at 8.30, bro, okay?

I texted you like 8.39. You know what it's, first of all. You saw my text. First of all, we're both. You saw my text and you punted. We are both walking carcasses. Yes, that's true. We flew to the West Coast.

It takes at least two days to lose that hangover zombie feeling, okay? Yes. And you're exhausted all the time. And there's a lot of shit legal in this state as well. I cannot believe the amount of marijuana on everywhere but you know I went to bed early and you're gonna have to you're gonna have to trust my reputation enough to know that I'm not putting you on I didn't look at that text and go fuck yeah that's alright that's I forgive you yeah yeah I know you did you

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Hey, I'm going to shout out that McEnroe doc. It's actually really, really good. I've been looking forward to it. I haven't seen it yet. It's artsy, too. It's a little artsy. All right, fair enough. So so of course your time calm 30 day free trial if you like it you can keep it if not you can bounce we don't

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You know what I mean? I don't want to besmirch you publicly. All right, I kind of do. You like besmirching everyone. Yeah. Why would he be the exception? But of course, morningcombat.store, you can check that out. They already flashed the thing there.

He needs a wellness check, RJ, right? What does that mean? Like, do you want to go knock on his door or some shit? Yeah, we haven't got a... Yo, wake the fuck up, RJ. And then last but not least, vote for us, because we don't deserve it. But some reason you guys like it, we keep getting nominated. So Morning Combat is up for World MMA Awards.

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Where my wife makes a cameo. Yeah. I think we can see the head now. We're close. You know what I'm saying? It was like an analogy for birth. I despise you. I mean, I didn't bring up the birthing room floor.

Yes, yes, yes. That's just a murder scene. It's a murder scene. Outside of the back room of McDonald's, like in the grill area. That's one thing. That's when you know you're like, I'm in a different stage of my life. When you see the floor of the room where your wife gave birth. Wow.

I don't really think we should talk about that with so many young people in the room right now. We might scare them out of procreation. Well, I mean, look at these people. I mean, this is the no fucking section of any religion. Oh, wow. Wow. All right. Show of hands, who was the prom king or queen?

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All right, well, we got a show to get to. You ready to do it? I'm not really interested in talking about i know you did not have a private i was right all along the luke thomas let's start with a topic number one maybe as did in fact when i think it's actually actually brought up uh... sbc role of the real

but the care we go there you go to that i've made the s submits tony fer Tony Ferguson in the fourth round, a back and forth affair. Of course, I did the instant reaction. So BC, the fans have not heard from you. I'm wondering if they could be louder. It's not quite loud enough. This is a tight room, very tight in here. So answer me this.

How impressed were you with how Nate Diaz performed? We'll talk about Tony in just a second. How did Nate look? They looked really good, but we do have to adjust our expectations for the matchup there. Obviously, this was not an easy situation for anybody with three fights, six fighters, all getting reworked and getting new opponents. Like, I think we kind of have to start there, separate even from Nate. Because, look, how do we sum up one of the wildest stretches of combat sports

at the most elite promotional level from like the backroom brawl thursday that canceled the press conference through the star of the pay-per-view missing weight by eight and a half pounds through the top three fights all got flipped and then were actually better fights after they salvaged not sure if that's true on paper it was on paper yes i think that's even separate from to a from Nate's performance in What's Next. Like, I think this is UFC at their finest. I think if you're a pro wrestling fan, this is great right here. That's fantastic.

There we go. We're just going to put you. I mean, it's going great, guys. We're live. Okay, there we go. Dude, high as balls. I've always said that in pro wrestling. Like, Vince McMahon, WWE, always at their best when shit falls apart and they've got to go last minute.

Dude, I got to give the UFC credit. Like, this was a really, really fun last two, three days leading into a fight card that was... Give the fighters credit, too. That was going to put a lot of eyes and attention anyway because there's Nate and there's Hamzat. Dude, this was like where you didn't know what was going to happen next. Poirier said he was like ready to go and get a flight to like save the main event. There was a couple of those scenarios. Wasn't this like, going to happen next. Poirier said he was ready to go and get a flight to save the main event. There was a couple of those scenarios. Wasn't this like, it's not unprecedented.

We had this for UFC 200 when Jon Jones had a pullout. We had this for UFC 223 where... I can't recall the last time three at the top, though. Well, even 223 was different because you had the dolly, you had Khabib going from Tony to Holloway to suddenly Iaquinta, and we didn't know if it was going to be Pettis. But I'll have to say this, Luke. It added an edge, an element of realism.

It created plenty of conspiracy theories that we can all shoot down or laugh at or play into, whatever. I mean, this is fun. I like this shit. It was fun. I thought that the overall, in terms of the reshuffling, I don't know that it created better fights. I don't feel that it did. The main event to me was perfectly good. Okay, but how do and i don't know that created better fights i don't feel that it did uh... at the main event he was perfectly good okay but how do you feel like it didn't create benefits

i thought the derog fight in the leach fight that that they were a little bit uncomfortable what they were both going up against so they kind of fought single-strike distance okay as opposed really mixing you're saying the actual performances as compared to the on paper upgrades in the we talked about this on the show don't you agree that not all the time that every time this plenty of exceptions boxing too but a lot of times when guys get last really last minute changes forty eight hours things like that a lot of times the fights end up being fine but somewhat reserved because those guys don't know what to expect i feel like that bled through not with hamsot

but in the feature fight and then a little bit in the main event i mean that was the same case with anderson and Daniel Cormier. Exactly. They get an OSP and Jon Jones. I'm saying for keeping this fight card together, your interest level into it, and maybe even heightening, which brings us back to Nate. Luke, this was, people are ripping on Twitter for saying this, but I stand by it. This was the gangster exit that Nate Diaz deserved the whole time as being a legend.

You got ripped for that? Yeah, yeah. It's pretty obvious. Just sort of saying, you know, oh, Tony, this one. Dude, Tony fought his balls off for being exactly who he is, coming off a four fight, you know, losing skin, 37 years old. The fight wasn't great. It was weird as shit.

Round three, I didn't know what was happening. When they were circling away from each other, Nate's doing Nick Diaz things. Tony's doing Nick Diaz things. I thought for a hot second that was going to be Nate doing the middle finger walk off. I'm done. F you guys. I'm glad that it didn't happen because Nate gets the win, the stoppage, and then the hero's exit. I mean, they were puffing up his bag in the post fight interview, calling him a legend. When would you have ever have guessed that A, that would have happened or B, that he wasn't going to have to pull off a miracle first and go through Hamzat Chamayev to get there. So all in all, Nate did the exact opposite of what the original matchmaking was intended,

to take his star power and rub it all over Chumaev. And instead, we not only didn't get that chance, but Nate's exit with his brand increased from this, right? His brand, he almost exited as a hero, where traditionally he was the anti-hero. we chaired for him because he was like the villain who's like f the the the company f the man this time he came back around and had like a baby face moment and he earned it and deserved it i loved it i was thinking about all the ways this weekend could have gone all the various permutations i can't call this the very best because if you think about it let's say he had actually fought hamzat and then submitted him or something and some kind of amazing performance. That would have been so enormous that no one would have been able to take it away from

him. I don't think it was that, but I think it's just one step down. That's it. I don't think it's a whole lot different. It's different, but I still think that what he got out of this, to your point, is the exact opposite of where everything ultimately was headed. Is there a way to grade, I'm not sure how to word this exactly, the level of triumph? What realistically does this do for him, do you think?

Okay, realistically, like in terms of- I don't mean like the Jake Paul fight, I mean like in terms of stature. In terms of triumph and consequence, it's another legendary name that he defeated. And I think what we at least saw was that Tony poured out the best of what he could have had in this situation. New opponent, losing streak, all that. It was a tough, interesting, I mean, Nate's, you know, the leg strikes he was absorbing, you were starting to question,

is he going to be, you know, heading into peril? Is Tony going to pull off this miracle win? That didn't happen. I give the UFC like an A-plus for saving the card and actually upgrading it. I give the ending and the end for Nate. I mean, we say that all the time. Legends don't get that. Harrison Silva didn't get that for his UFC exit. Nobody gets

that. Nate needed the most ridiculous set of circumstances to flip for it to happen. I mean, we've got to shout out Mike Heck from MMA Fighting. The New England I like him, but what did he do? Maybe two times already in the past week on this show, I brought to you his theory. His hey, what if? What if for

some God-known, unknown reason, Chimaev gets injured or misses weight, and suddenly it's Tony versus Nate? Because the whole idea was Nate was going to have to, I mean, think about that narrative coming in. Nate was fighting the machine. He didn't want to fight Chimaev. I think he knew in the back of his mind there's pretty much an unwinnable fight. I mean, it's not unwinnable, but it's, you know,

this is what I have to do to cash out. This is what I have to do to get out of here, to be free. And he instead, just by receiving good MMA karma for being true to his beliefs and his, you know, street justice and all that the whole time, the good karma came back to him. He got to have a moment, the fans enjoyed it. Now he doesn't exit damaged or another rough loss that he didn't need.

Now he gets to go wherever he's going on a lift. Dude, this was a feel-good moment. It's a weird moment. So I want to, before we exit the whole talk about the craziness, Luke, I texted you at one point in the midst of it, maybe Friday evening, and was like, is this shit staged? Is this a pro wrestling thing? Everything's just coming together too perfect.

And you're like, I don't think so. I thought Dana actually gave the best response Saturday night after the fights and saying, do you know how crazy the six guys are that we had to give new fights to? Do you think they could pull off an organized conspiracy? I will agree with him on this. But let me toss one remotely possible conspiracy theory at you. And I want to hear what you say about it. All conspiracy theories are remotely possible.

OK. We did see Dana, whether it was fear out of Nate you know walking out of a cage during a fight and flipping everybody off or not receive Nate in like a you're an MMA legend I haven't have nothing bad to say about you I mean to hear Nate in the post fight interview like I've always loved Dana all love something must have happened in my opinion during fight week Luke I talked about where they got to a Friday where they got to a certain level of respect, but maybe they got to a really good level of respect where Dana's like, this is kind of dirty what we did.

The reality right now is unless we're putting Hamza in a title fight, he probably should be facing somebody like Holland right now to see exactly where he is. Maybe they talk to Nate. I don't know anything. I'm just putting it out there. And they said, look, Nate, we want you to have this trilogy with McGregor

under our banner. Go do what you need to do. Go make your money. But agree with us that you're going to come back and do this with us. And maybe that was enough for them to go, hey, Hamza, come here, bro. You're going to have to flip this shit upside down.

So we're going to tell everybody that you missed weight really badly, and you're going to act like you don't care because Luke, you're going to tell me I'm crazy, right? Yes. Then what kind of surreal like shit was the last few days? It was the most, like when Mike had pitched that possibility, we're all like, Oh my God, like what kind of karma would have to come together for something that awesome to happen? It happened step by step step with the thing to me that still unbelievable is how to my of who beat you guys in ten days

could be that far overweight so his coach i'd just saw this for before we were live a retreat from sean el shadi i guess he uh... the coach get those phones off but and i'm not but i'm not listening to say i believe this was a closer reading as i mean this is a vital i'm just saying there are a lot of people the enemy going i i can't so his list goes said again this is not me making it up was close said you can go you could say he's wrong to him to relay the information

remember that homes are like a real bad bout with kovac only i really fucked them up real good right so he's obviously in terms of what he can do on fight night he seems just fine but what is close it was ever since that, his body's been a little bit weird. And he can't make welterweight as easily. Obviously, he did it against Gilbert Burns, but apparently it was a Herculean effort. Now, is his coach right? I don't know. Is that the reason? I don't know.

I mean, look, this is among the most unprofessional, whether it was medically induced or not. Let me say this, too. Here's something to think about. A buddy of mine one time tried to make his Bellator debut. He eventually made it later. But he went to the weight cut process, never had an issue. And then when he got there, this was in California, his heart rate was elevated. And they actually wouldn't let him cut weight.

And I asked him, I was like, how did you feel? He's like, I felt fine. I could have easily cut weight. What they said was that the doctors didn't let Hamzat cut the weight. Hamzat wanted to. So what I'm wondering is if there was something that was flagged in a medical screening related to that. Because I do know for a fact a buddy of mine had a very plausible thing that happened to him that could have been what happened to a wolf. Because look, when Gervonta missed on the scale and lost his title in the mayweather mcgregor co-main event we're like okay

maybe he's got a clean up his discipline outside the ring this is a guy who's crazy discipline i'm still shocked that this happened even even if everything's on the up-and-up i'm still shocked that this is this is a particularly celerity and made us i think about what we didn't talk about which is very quickly remember all the athletes have to wait at the beginning of the week the u f c knows when they're get to vegas or however long he was there they knew on fight week where he was that monday or tuesday he had to come in

away in so maybe nothing was flagged and i don't know that sort of the no we should have at that they should have asked the event i mean do i really believe it's conspiracy no but it's just i've never seen somebody who like as much as the media was making this event about me and it certainly became about me once i was i did everything he was about homes at your promotional side this was all about taking

needs fans and giving them the homes up and to see him have a mishap is surprising enough but what about the the way he's responded character why I want to save some this conversation for his fight but the last thing I would say is I thought homes are this ultimately it's amazing that maybe has even got the headlines that he did we really think about about it, because Hamzat either inadvertently or whatever, basically did everything possible to make that week about him, from the brawl, or not the brawl, but the conflict with Paulo Costa,

to the backstage, to the way, and every day Hamzat was like the top of the news, not for good reason, but he was the guy there, by hook or by crook, he was the guy up there. And then Nate, I think think managed to wrestle back a little bit of that limelight on sale on it on saturday but that's what about my real and we'll see what comes out he certainly repaired a good chunk of the bad will with luxury luxury did i will get into that but i can't i really cannot believe this happened i can't believe it's among the most bizarre

stretches we've ever seen a combat sports in boxing they would just they would just cancel the card. Here's the thing about combat sports you really got to understand when you're in it long enough. And if you're a fan, obviously, if you're a hardcore fan, most of you watching certainly are. But the thing you got to remember is, and we feel this acutely, especially when you're at an event. I was at the event where, I mean, I wasn't there when Conor threw the dolly, but I was there. It was the Holloway Habib Media Day. I was there for that. I remember all of it. I remember when Habib had, like, I remember I interviewed Habib. He had fucking the worst cotton mouth I'd ever seen on a fighter.

Next day, he can't fight Tony, UFC 209. I mean, you see these things. But the point is this. Whether it's in the fight or out of the fight, BC, boxing or MMA, dude, this is a sport where, like, the most insane shit happens. Yeah. Regularly. So, so like you're asking me is it a conspiracy it's like conspiracies are hard to coordinate i think the the most likely explanation is this sport is fucking batshit and batshit things are the norm and

you just kind of got to get used to it i give credit as you did to all six fighters for being willing to make it happen we've seen some discrepancy of dana trying to claim that they didn't get paid bonuses to resign like they didn't they fought for the same money they signed off on. I don't think that's possible. To one, and what do you think about what Dana said in the post by Presser where people were asking him about the potential matchups they could have made once Shamayev missed, and he was like, oh, they never would have made that because they were too far apart in weight,

which was the exact far apart in weight that Li Jianliang and D-Rod ended up being. So I don't feel like he was telling the truth, or he just doesn't know about it. Wow, a promoter not telling the truth. That seems so out of character. Did you see Ariel send Dana to hell on Twitter, too? Ariel was like, don't praise Dana as the hero. It's really Hunter Campbell that made this happen. I'm happy they made it happen.

They saved the car. He's right. Yeah, Hunter Campbell's the guy who apparently engineered all of that. But we do, and we said it last week, Nate and Dana, very chummy. Maybe that's the best thing to do for business moving forward because they all want to revisit. To your point, we discussed this on Friday. I've spoken to some folks close to Nate Diaz

the past week several times, and what they were telling me was that more recently, not quite sure how recent, but that's the way it was described to me, that there was a real thawing of the relationship between Nate Diaz and his camp and the UFC. To what you want to ascribe that, everyone can write their own version of things there,

but it does seem like, dude, they... And again, we talked about it on Friday, like how much of the Anderson Silva kind of like, hey, thanks for the ride, asshole. The exit's that way. How much of that influenced what they did here? Also, very quickly, you brought it up on Twitter for the Hamza fight,

but I also thought in the event with the fight with Nate, Joe Rogan asked him about boxing. Joe Rogan asked him about the end of his contract. Shocked. I was shocked. And you might be like, well, that's what he's supposed to do. Yes, but let's be real. The UFC likes to, you know, kind of censor the message sometimes. They don't want those things necessarily brought to the forefront.

And Joe did it. I give Joe credit for that. That was nice. I give Joe credit a lot. I mean, there were times in the broadcast I thought they were ignoring it and just saying marry out of circumstances. But it was what it was in the end. But, you know, what a moment for Nate.

What a moment after all the bad karma he's endured of the, you know, of the shitty purses he fought for, of maybe not getting the push he felt in certain moments he deserved, especially after the two McGregor fights and him sitting out three years. And now he was able to have this moment and walk away with his brand completely firm and be in a spot where he can literally go any direction he wants. And you don't have to take an L for that. I mean, that's just a... I mean, when Nate Diaz headlined the pay-per-view against Masvidal for the fake belt,

it was like, this is surreal. I can't even believe we're here. I can't even believe in 2022 it ended up Nate Diaz versus Tony Ferguson. They tried their best, but that was weird. That was a weird-ass fight. Yeah, before we get to the fight, real quickly, let me ask one thing, a boxing comparison. Now, obviously, Canelo is in the prime of his career.

Nate, I think, is at the prime of his earning potential. But as a fighter, I think he's past prime. I don't think that's crazy to say. potential, but as a fighter, I think he's past prime. Yes. I don't think that's crazy to say. Now, you remember what Canelo was doing. He fought briefly for Showtime when he fought Caleb Plant. Now he was with his own before.

He's back with his own. But he's shopping, right? I think after the Golovkin fight, I'm not sure how much he's got left with whatever that situation is. But you guys see the Bivol fight. It's a two-fight deal, right? The Bivol fight and then the Triple G fight, right? I think so, yes.

So in other words, the point is he's shopping around. Before Canelo signed with Showtime, just to put that in a moment in time, how would you compare Nate Diaz's, not earning potential, but is there any relevancy in the comparison between what Canelo was trying, given he's a much more vibrant and in-his-prime star

relative to what Nate is doing in terms of free agent potential? Not really, because Canelo got to a point where he's in that rear spot where he's the pound-for-pound king and the sport's biggest star without question at the same time. Now look, Pat Gow and Mayweather are still lingering. Could they be a bigger star in a certain time? Of course. But you get the point in terms of active in their primes. I mean, they're both at a point where they have the same level of control now.

So I guess that's the only level of comparison To see Nate be able to walk away like this And to have them not trash him on the way I mean, it's so bizarre I can't get past it, Luke I can't get past it And shit moves quick in UFC You get a really good card, you get a really good card two weeks later, right? I mean, you know, sometimes every weekend

I can't get past how weird this was That I want to sit in the conspiracy puddle longer to just try to help it make sense. Because if it's not a conspiracy at the end of the day, I don't think it is, you don't see shit that weird. Also, the UFC, I mean, you have to remember, like, their market power and their contracts, they make the nimbleness with which they showed

in the rearrangement, those conditions make it a little more possible, right? So you have to remember that as well. Like, like yes the fighters deserve an enormous amount of credit as does Hunter Campbell the UFC all the people who played a role but this larger consideration about the constricting nature of their employment also makes that possible as well so there's indeed real question last thing I'd ask you Diaz biggest free agent agent in MMA history. What do you think is the likely next path?

I think, you know, we're on site here for the Jake Paul-Anderson Silva boxing match, which I think in this— By the way, Jake Paul, very complimentary about Nate. Absolutely. Very complimentary. I think he should be looking forward as that's his big money. If I short a get in Conor, there's a great chance he'll never get a chance where the windows won't match up, depending on Conor's UFC contract situation. But Nate is the Super Bowl fight for him.

Anderson Silva is the hardest fight he's had since, and we don't know if he's going to win it. I mean, I'm really starting to fall deeper in love with this fight, because I really don't know what it's going to look like. Is it win or lose that's going to decide whether he ends up getting Nate? Maybe, or if it ends up being a loss for Jake, is it a really bad loss? Or is it enough to warrant a rematch with Anderson? All that's going to be determined in the ring when they fight. But where should Nate go next?

I think the biggest money is in Jake Paul. And that should be the fight that he's waiting for. Maybe Jake could fight him off a loss if that happened. Certainly with a win, it becomes a much bigger opportunity. We're not setting up for like Nate versus Anderson in a boxing match if things go a different way, right? Because you're like, here's what I want to spin it back on you. Boxing versus Jake is the most money and exposure he can make. He's talking about this is his halftime show and there's all this stuff.

Maybe he's talking about the movie of his life and that kind of stuff. In terms of the next year, the biggest fights you can make, are we overlooking what it could mean if he went to a different MMA promotion and they tried to make the biggest fight available there? I say this, what if there's a reality in which Anderson wins this boxing match against Jake clear enough to not need to do Jake Diaz next? Could you do Anderson versus Jake in an...

I mean, sorry, Anderson versus Nate in an MMA match on Bellator pay-per-view? Is that even possible? Him in one championship against Eddie Alvarez? Is that even possible? He would never go to one. Not even for stupid money in the U.S. debut of one championship on U.S. soil, Eddie versus Nate as a pay-per-view main event.

You're telling me that all parties involved wouldn't jump on that? Okay, I'll put it as a possibility. Under those circumstances, it's a possibility. Sure, I couldn't dismiss that. I mean, he's not going to enter the PFL playoffs tomorrow. No I couldn't dismiss that I mean, he's not gonna enter the PFL playoffs tomorrow People someone's have asked me why we could be in PFL I'm like their chance of locking up Nate even if they put in significant financial offer is zero Although they are launching pay-per-view next year. So yeah, I mean well with him, but maybe he'll fight Kayla who knows

The point I'm trying to make is I agree with you I think that the all roads lead to Jake Paul, but a few things have to happen along the way. I do think that Nate versus Anderson is... I mean, there's a weighty issue there. It'd have to be like the Nick versus Anderson fight. You'd have to meet somewhere in that middle. I guess we'll have to see. Are you talking about boxing or MMA?

Either. Either. Probably boxing. They'd make more money. All right. With that in mind, though, I do want to focus the conversation now on Tony Ferguson. Point number two. So Tony now picks up his fifth loss in a row.

I think he went from all the way to 2013. I saw a graphic from MMA On Point. Shout out to them. I think it was like 2009 to 2013, he was undefeated. And then since 2020, he's been 0-5. Yeah, he had a 12-fight win streak in the deepest division at that point we don't see and wins that I don't know if folks are gonna appreciate like he did that to Barboza yeah when people basically didn't do that shit to Barboza all right

but let me ask the question about this I had Ferguson up 29 28 heading into the fourth. Now, the fight was stopped in the fourth, and I thought that Nate was clearly winning the fourth. So had it gone to a fifth, had it roughly stayed what it was, I would have had it tied. But I did see some people having Nate up, potentially. I wonder what your scorecard was, and the biggest question is, did Tony look bad or good it was such a weird fight to be honest I don't even I don't think I was and I was score I was scoring it for CBS Sports HQ okay I had it two to one Tony at the time of the stuff that's how I had around one for Nate I had the two subsequent rounds I

think for Tony what the whole point was that's among the weirdest fights we've seen okay with that that whole breakdown around round three, there was just weird. Maybe it was Nate in the end just kind of buying time and, you know, getting a breather with the tricks. But how did Tony do? Better than I thought, meaning I thought even with the opponent change, it was going to be a first-round stoppage. I really don't have a big-time faith in Tony's, you know, chin and recuperative abilities at this point. I think he almost fought too good for his own good, meaning this, the post-fight interview, he was all about saying like,

I kinda proved that I'm back here, I'm in a new division and I proved that I'm back. Dude, I don't wanna see Tony, I don't wanna see him wring out what's left, Luke. I saw, it was better than his recent slide, but you have to factor in the opponent change and Nate's motivation changed significantly when this got switched around.

And I give Tony credit for jumping up to a five round fight and he's always game. But Luke, this didn't buy him time in my eyes that we still need him to go out there against legitimate tough ranked guys because that version of the leech that we saw against D-Rod in that close fight, that guy stops Tony Ferguson in round one. Like, he stops him, Luke, okay? How many more losses can we take? Even if they're not devastating, like, to where you go, it's probably time. I think it's time right now, Luke.

It's tough after that performance to make this statement that it feels like it's time, but it's not going to get any better. So you had him winning going into the... And I think he poured out what was left. And by the way, he came close to giving Nate a legitimate Gaethje one leg strike away from putting Habib in peril type of moment. He seemed like he got that close. It looked for a hot second like he might pull the upset.

Tony, I give you all the credit for taking the fight and pouring it out. I don't think it ever gets better than that. I think that's the last stand is really what I'm saying. You know, so my initial post-fight reaction reaction show what I said was that I thought there were some durability issues for Tony Folks forget that like yes, he had good cardio. He had good power. Do he had a rock chin in his prime? I mean a fucking just steel jaw And it was weird like, you know, I know that there's this argument that Nate has deceptive power, which I believe. But, like, you could see Tony visibly wince in ways that I hadn't really seen him do that before.

And also you could just tell, like, the shots were taking some life out of him along the way. A lot of the viewers kind of came back at me saying, I actually disagree with you. I think that Tony looks a lot more done. Because I thought, like, you know, the leg kicking was pretty good. He was overcommitting on the punches. But, like, you know, in general, he was showing intentionality. But I think I went back and rewatched it after hearing some of those comments. I think I'm a little bit more in agreement with you now.

You know what he reminds me of? He reminds me of, like, Carlos Condit, like, four fights after the Robbie Lawler fight, where it just was not the same. And the Gaethje fight. I remember in real time, people were like, oh yeah, Tony really poured it out. Yeah, he did. He did. Now what? Now where are we?

That was a beating he should not have taken. So if his future is to only take, like, let's be fair, like, Clay Guida, Jim Miller type fights, okay. That's probably okay. Okay, I mean, has he earned the right to, like, pour out what's left?

I guess yes. I mean, he was a company guy who never really got fully rewarded. I know he finally got to the title shot opportunity, the interim belt against Gaethje. Yeah. But we talked about this before. I think he used up every possible inch of what was left to get himself to that point while still on the win streak. Because the Habib thing wouldn't fall into place, but he turned around in a record time from that serious injury when he tripped over the cord. And he was just running on fumes for so long that there was going to be a break when it was mentally or physically or both, it was just going to all

break down. That guy's not coming back. And I think the best of him, look, in strange times Saturday night, the best of him was look, in strange times Saturday night, the best of him was, give him credit, but it was almost smoke and mirrors for him to pull that off, Luke. So I think you put him in there against a live body, you're going to get a bad ending. If you want to give him the soft legend ending

and let him fight other legends and we'll just trot those fights out there and they're fun and they're nostalgic, that's great. Anything more than that, like that Leech fight, in hindsight, Luke, that would have been bad. than that, like that Leach fight in hindsight, that would have been bad. Could have been. Could have been bad. Yeah, I think you're right.

I think I think... I do want to be clear. The idea that he doesn't have any place in the UFC doesn't seem right. Like, again, hold on. If he wanted to thread that Jim Miller needle, I think that's at least for one, two more, something like that. That seems okay to me. It's anything more prolonged than that is where I have the problem. And the fallback response is he's got a style that's too dependent upon taking damage to

get to have success. Way too much damage. And he's not seeking grounded. He's not going out of his way to take the fight to the ground, Luke. No. And against the better guys, he's not going to be able to bring it there. So I got bad feelings. And I'm sick of having these bad feelings about veterans that I love. I had that feeling about Gustafson. You saw what happened, Luke.

If I ever have that feeling about you, I'm going to tell you. That's great, dude. I'm glad you're here. Okay. So with that in mind, be sizzle. Let's talk now. I see you making weird faces over here. Let's talk now about topic number three, because you've been dying. You've been ants in the, be sizzle. Let's talk now. I see you making just weird faces over here. All right, let's talk now about topic number three, because you've been dying. You've been ants in the pants about this one. So Hamzat Shumayev in the co-main event at 180 pounds. It was a catchweight. Just obliterates Kevin Holland.

I mean, absolutely runs him over. It was impressive as shit. You have to say that. I saw this when I did the post-fight reaction show. So the fight was two minutes and 13 seconds long. And I think he had control time for like 152, 153 of it. Or maybe more like 156. Some kind of absurd.

I mean, basically the entirety of the bout he had command of it. Okay, BC, your reaction. We said on Friday after we found out in real time that he was not going to make weight and that it could potentially be disastrous. And it was, I mean, look, I know Conor McGregor was talking shit that he shouldn't have been in the card. I'm not even sure he should have been in the card. He got lucky that there were other guys who had to make a different weight in my eyes that, that sort of, you know, I know Kevin Holland didn't sign up for some, um, catchweight. It wasn't like the Daniel Rodriguez situation, but at least Holland, Colin, I mean, we've got to

give Holland a lot of credit, whether it was smart in the end or not, it seems like he got a payday and he just went all in and said, all right, let's do this. He calls himself the new cowboy in that regard. But we said the way that you can take a large chunk of that rightful criticism that he's facing and all the questions without answers that we had suddenly of, if this guy's the next big thing, how can you have this type of PR disaster at this moment? This is your showcase to the world of the people that aren't following MMA, right? Of this next big thing coming and you fucking blew it. That was best case scenario in the cage to tell a lot of us to shut the fuck up. It's it's still messy the cleanup here

the cleanup of the reputation of having had this happen but it's a soft it's a softer cleanup because the fans wanted nate versus tony the fans weren't like oh shit man i wanted nate for samza not a single person said that right not a single person were like no man i needed to see nate get beat up right no that wasn't the case. So Hamzat actually had the best case scenario in terms of a performance. Going out there, leaning on his strengths, and reminding you that at his peak,

I mean, could you sell him to friends, to casual friends, as like a Habib who also goes out of his way to try to finish it with strikes? I mean, he looked as freaking nasty and scary as possible in that two minutes something seconds. Two minutes 13.

You know what's amazing about him, dude? When you think about MMA, obviously crazy things happen. Jose Aldo gets knocked out in nine seconds, and people get taken down and slammed, and crazy things happen. But the reality is, we're talking about very tough guys, highly trained. Hamzat's ability to just overrun the resistance of his opponents is unlike anything I've ever seen.

Like, Francis has the big knockout power. But I mean, like, by putting his hands on people and then manipulating them, he overruns their resistance like it doesn't exist. And gets there faster than Habib. I'm not going to compare who he's fought. Habib was on a run of fighting all killers. So maybe when Hamzat is fighting only top five guys, there's going to be more resistance. But he gets there faster.

I mean, Habib's like a slow grind to just take away your will and your positioning and your time on the bottom. I mean, he's just pulling, you know, eating at your soul. Dude, Hamzat goes there quick. I mean, he picked up the leech and went over and slammed him right where Dana was sitting on purpose. I mean, the fact that that even happened is blowing my mind. So he seems to be next-level nasty in terms of he makes the decision to dominate you, and you're fucking dominated.

So in that regard, did he repair a lot? Yeah, long-term, I don't have, like, fear. Let me ask you about this, because I saw this a lot. How much of—what do you say to the folks who are like, he beat Kevin Holland, big deal. That's what I got. Oh, no. Kevin Holland was riding a win streak, had been reinvented at this weight class. And considering he had no time to prepare for him, and I think rightfully so, Chimaev was suddenly labeled as a villain. Dude, this is not an easy fight. And he went out there and look, and even if he had leaned on his strengths and beat, and it took him three and a

half rounds to beat Holland, then maybe you go, okay, no, Luke, he beat him basically instantly. So I actually think Luke, again, it's going to take a while to repair. And he's, by the way, he's going full on into the heel turn now. And I want to get into that in terms of how he's presenting himself. But I think the performance was so good. It not only took away, you know, me criticizing him because I tweeted out after he missed weight, I think right performance was so good, it not only took away me criticizing him, because I tweeted out after he missed weight, I think rightfully so. Dude, we got a lot of questions now about who he really is underneath there.

Can he hold up to the mental stress of it? All of that. Well, that performance told me to shut up. You know what the performance also did? Told me to stop saying that the Gilbert Burns fight potentially exposed or humanized him. I mean this. I believe Hamza when he says,

I went into that fight looking to brawl and not listen to my coaches because I wanted to prove a point. Gilbert gave him a balls-out performance. Tumayev gets the close victory. Luke, the way he dominated Holland, I'm not saying he could dominate Gilbert Burns in two minutes if he really wanted to.

I think we have to revisit that fight with different eyes and just say... What do you mean? I mean, Gilbert's a skilled operator. Hamzat's intention was completely different in that fight his intention was to stand with this with this high-ranked train killer right but I mean that's yes he was yes that's right but dude that's not a smart way to fight like you can get away with it right so that's what I'm saying this performance against Holland even though I don't think Holland is better than Gilbert Burns did enough to make me not criticize that performance over Gilbert Burns.

I actually believe Hamza when he fought, you know, a risky, unsafe style on purpose. When you see his ability, and I know Holland's takedown defense is not his biggest strength. He's a black belt under Travis fucking Luter. Dude, it was with ease that he dominated them. I mean, with ease. I feel like if they ran back a Gilbert Burns rematch tomorrow and Hamza brought in the different mindset and had something to prove in the same way that he now them i mean with ease i feel like if they ran back to gilbert burns rematch tomorrow and hums up brought in the different mindset and had something to prove in the same way that he now had a lot to prove on saturday after the way in mishap dude he might be

better than i thought he was and i thought he was great okay he might in the long term be better than i thought he was you didn't do you get that you don't get i'm feeling like i want to revise history now and go back i'm i am the only thing I would say is I think that his ceiling, provided he can make the weight, is going to be higher at welterweight than it is at middleweight. Which isn't to say he couldn't do well at middleweight. God only knows. He might be able to. But I think for his career to really reach potential, he's got to be able to consistently make welterweight.

And if this coach is right that his body is now screwed up for whatever reason. It does change the equation. It changes the equation a little bit. We're talking about only as a middleweight title contender. It doesn't kill your belief that he can win a world title. It does slow it down. For all the people that he's shitting on in the interviews, and he cut monster heel turn type promos, right?

Of just being like, I fuck all your guys. I fuck all your boys, I think is what he said. That was interesting. He's fucked all the guys. I fuck all your boys, I think is what he said. That was interesting. He's fucked all the boys. He has. But, you know, it's like, is this a heel turn out of embarrassment from the criticism he's facing for an unprofessional moment on Friday? Or is this him just saying, fuck it, I'm just going to be me and this is who I am?

Because Chechnya motherfucker was what came out of his mouth, Luke. You know what? I think it's a little column A, column B. I think there is a little bit of like, fuck you. You don't know me. But the other part is, having covered fighters for 15 years, you would not lose money betting on their sensitivity. Can he go further commercially as a, I know you hate this question, but as a baby face or a heel in terms of his in terms is casual put you know presentation to the mainstream we talk about now here's interesting I think the only fight that makes sense for him

at this point if you look at look at the rankings in the state about viably who can do it to be if you would agree the only people at welterweight we're gonna give this guy problems are the the very best whose mom the Usman I'm you know what I think we'll talk about it Colby maybe Leon I think lately I might get chewed up by a guy like that but the cut fight could what about those hammers that are coming okay but they're still Brady still has some work to do Rachman off still has some work to do

I'm talking about the guys who are currently in that upper space Gilbert I thought gave him a good test some people think Gilbert won by the way to point that out I think we should revisit that in the future more so but the point is only those go over and starts those are the only ones if you just look at it comes up there's usually we on has unfinished business that was very difficult for time in the world were with that uh... camera guys are just gonna there's gonna have to ask i think i mean they're just gonna have a lot of a little show behind the scenes of the

great anyway but beyond that they're talking about my gut but beyond that uh... beyond, so that only leaves really Colby. You could have said he could fight Burns at that upper level, but Burns, they already fought. I like this topic. Do you want to know why? So if he fights Colby, to answer your question, who is the good guy there? Does he make Colby now the American baby face against the foreign Russian movie villain?

That's why I'm wondering. I'm wondering if it's marketably stronger for Hamza to just stay in this mode of like, fuck you, right? You don't know me. You're never going to know me. It probably is. I wonder if it turned Colby babyface. But in the same topic of is Colby coming to the fight you go to next, because if people ask me that on HQ on Saturday night,

Hakeem did. Hakeem Dermish, shout out, right? I love Hakeem. Shout out, Hakeem Dermish. are you listening right now in your car hakeem shout out um you know i mean what did he ask me that's really the question i got it um what so if colby is to be or not to because my reaction in real time was you know what the ufc doesn't like hold grudges all the time like meaning conor mcgregor threw a dolly through a window and nearly injured his you know co-workers right put glass in people's eyes shout out to ray borg scared the shit out of juana and his reward was here's a a-side starring role in the biggest paper fight in biggest pay-per-view fight

in the history of the sport. So Luke, under how UFC does things, what's the next best fight for Chimaev next? The winner of Leon versus Usman 3. He's so good, and he just showed you that again against Holland, that I don't think he has to do anything but pass go and get ready for the title shot. But your idea of Colby is not only interesting style-wise, not only does it make sense personality-wise as a pay-per-view main event, I think it does, but Luke, is there a receipt, a punishment, that Hamzat's going to have to face for what happened behind the scenes when talking to Hunter Campbell and Dana White?

Because that's not the fights that they wanted to put out. I don't think so. Now, what they may do is restrict whatever weight class he competes in. That might be possible because what they don't want is you showing up on fight week unable to make your contracted weight. But I actually asked this on Twitter on, I think, Saturday afternoon. I was like, what was the last time the UFC punished one of their own guys? And the answer was, oh, they cut Luis Peña for the domestic violence allegations. Yes.

And the charges, actually we he was charged but the world's or has got like a ticket that's a long time ago my point being is where they let him go the pain you're going on john's never gets any points this is my point internally who was a somebody that they find or punish that they wanted to keep on the roster that's what i'm talking about

and the answer is i can't really remember the last minute if i need the as like twenty fifteen or twenty fourteen for language this dot with a couple one since the well you know what it's been That's what I'm talking about and the answers I can't really remember the last I mean they find Nate Diaz in like 2015 or 2014 For language there's probably been a couple one since then Well, you know what? And I think I do anything the hops up and I'm gonna do shit I'm an and I couldn't make weight against Valentina the first time they tried the rematch Dana said she'd never had line of cart again That didn't hold up. Well, they really they really didn't come in that parent like you are probably Luke We're just like I'm gonna tell you what not to do, but I don't care if you do it

Only when I'm tired. I mean, she's so cute. How can you tell off? It's hard to say no to Vio. Okay, so there's probably a soft punishment or toll he'll have to pay, right? Again, I think his weight thing is the only factor here that matters. Can you make Welter weight consistently? Okay, so my question would have been to you, is he so great in the Holland fight, only further embellish that,

that the only fight is a title fight in some form? And how much more do we have to learn about his ability? I guess a lot, because he's just steamrolling. So this is what I said on Saturday night. Tell me if you agree. Now, Francis has that dim-mock, one-punch, insane power. But again, in terms of a guy who can just fucking bend steel, in terms of a guy whose first round ability to just manhandle guys,

Hamza Chemaev is your best first round fighter in MMA. Like the way he just bulldozes resistance is unheard of. A guy like that is tough up front. But how he looks later in fights to me remains a question. This is why you need someone like a Colby or a Gilbert. Someone who,

at least in the case of Colby, we don't know, but we think could stand up to that resistance and then try to fight later. And I do wonder what it looks like when he's in the fourth and fifth round versus the first and second. It's interesting. First and second, he's untouchable. So in the long run, could this, if this leads to a slower string of matchmaking, I mean, I was trying to argue that he's so great, you put him in the title shot now, no matter what, even if he did miss weight. Maybe it's better for him that he gets these tests before the title level in the long run. So maybe a Colby fight, which they can use his brand, which is hot right now and has not faltered, it seemed, even with the egregious weight miss. I mean, that's a pay-per-view main event, is it not?

So here's the thing, you say- Yes or no, Colby versus Hamza is a pay-per-view main event, is it not? So here's the thing. Yes or no, Colby versus Hamzat is a pay-per-view main event. It could be. Hell yeah, it is. But you're making a claim that he repaired as much as he could. I thought that that was true, but we've been off in terms of the reading relative to the fan base about Hamzat. They were loving him before the Gilbert Burns fight, and then afterwards they're like, oh, he's not as good as I thought he was.

I'm like, are you fucking high? But then that's where they were, and now everything has kind of gone even worse. They're like, oh, and he can't make weight. He's a dirtbag. He's not a professional. I never want to see him again. I don't believe that last part. And we're kind of like, wow, he really redeemed himself.

In the actual, if you actually polled MMA fans, did he redeem himself? I wonder about that. I mean, it's a big sin he committed. I mean, I still don't understand it. It's a big sin he committed. I mean, I still don't understand it. It's a big sin he committed. Tried his best to clean it up. He may be better off long run as a heel, as I mentioned. But let's be honest about this.

Tyson Fury can't travel the States right now because of his affiliation with Daniel Kinahan. The more Hamzat rises in the public eye, and this weekend, even though it didn't go perfect, he rose in the public eye in terms of exposure. And now you know his name if you didn't. When is potentially the Ramzan Kadyrov stuff going to catch up with him in some form? Or are we harping on something that, I mean, it's fights. It shouldn't matter. What is our role in this? To tell the audience about his affiliations, because he has an affiliation, seemingly a very direct one, with a murderous dictator and tyrant who is forbidden from doing business with people in the United States and you see the celebration videos that that rams on

his team put out after the win yeah I'm sure that they did so like again the question is like is he forced into these relationships like one never knows there's always a degree of ambiguity but audience gets to decide for themselves whether they care however the US government might decide for themselves that they have something to say about that and then restrict anyone's business to have any kind of relationship and then do business here as well. It took a while for the MTK thing to finally catch up to Tyson Fury,

but it did. Well, UFC's got Fight Island. They can put any fight on there. They can just go wherever they want. Maybe we'll get UFC Fight Night Chechnya. I doubt that. I doubt that. But one never knows.

One never knows. Well, this hammer is here, Luke. You doubt that. I doubt that. But one never knows. One never knows. Well, this hammer is here, Luke. You need a bag of hammers that the Malka crew just carries around for you. Yeah, yeah. Is there any fight that's not the title or Colby that makes sense? And if there is, it's going to play up to our fear of whether he can actually make it. How are they going to be sure? So he's going to have to make 170 in a non-title fight next to give them the confidence to place him against me. That's why the Kobe fight's important, because it gives them the allowance to make 171.

It gives them just a little bit of room to play with. I want to see how great he can be on the title level at 170 before I'm ready to flip the script. And I think he's the same, because they did ask him, do you want Robert Whitaker? And did you hear his response? It kind of surprised me. He really likes Robert Whitaker. That he talked up Whitaker. He's like, I'd rather train with him, because he's a good guy, unlike all these bad guys they want me to fight. That was a little weird that he

bent the knee so quickly, right? Well, Robert Whitaker is a fighter that people like. A living legend, some would say. Extremely good. He is a great, very great fighter. And I understand that reverence. Actually, to me, that was... I felt that a little bit. I responded to it. I thought that was a nice little sentiment from Hamza. You think Dana's upset at him?

I'm sure Dana is fucking pissed. Like, dude, this is what... You and Hamza are the same. Like, when we're having conversations, we'll be like, yo, man, I really like green apple. You know, that's my favorite kind of apple. He'll be like, yo,

I'm high off delta eights and i let me let me tell you about this instagram feed i'm following on only pipes or whatever the fuck you're doing we're like we just met this person why would you say this you like to roll the grenade in how's that roll the grenade into ufc 279 fight week he just rolled the fucking grenade and blew up everything i guess in that sense dan is pissed but like beyond that i don't i don't know i doubt it i really doubt really doubt it. There you go. I gotta hit the head really bad. I gotta take a whiz. We have more show. Okay.

Maybe you can like, you know, song and dance. Just go, man. Just go on your song. Just be. Just be. Actually, do you want to go? I have to piss too, but that makes me... What if we get the crew in here to just, you know, da-da, ba-da, ba-da. There's no podcast where two guys in their 40s are have to be all right you think gas could turn off my

mic we're gonna have a naked gun mom I think we should hear you fart in the urine oh god all right just you just walk in front of the cameras like a fucking oaf yeah you are hurry up. Why are you walking? Run. All right, so let's start the next one here just a little bit. Topic number four, we'll do it as BC rolls in. We'll come back to him. So then we had the Daniel Rodriguez versus Li Jinglang fight. Let me pull up the stats from this if I can. Oh, last thing on this, very quickly, last thing on this. For the Chumaev and Holland fight, I had said this on the Saturday reaction show very quickly,

very quickly, which was that he had blanked him in the stat sheets that Holland didn't have any offense that was measurable. He had no takedowns, no significant strikes, no punches, nothing. There was a zero across the board. And I had someone write back to me saying that wasn't impressive. Folks, okay, you're allowed to make any determination you want about how significant it is that Shamayev beat an opponent the quality of Kevin Holland. I actually think Kevin Holland's a very good fighter, it's a very quality win. It's not a championship level win, but it's a very good win. Nevertheless, I look at stat sheets all day, every day in MMA, particularly from Fightmetric. You can, I

think there's less than 10 total ever since they've been measuring it where you have, you can double check that, but the number of times that you can walk up on a stat sheet where someone blanked the other opponent, which I think they call being punked, is extremely limited in number. So to do that as effortlessly as he did in that late switch opponent case with an opponent who was not smaller than him. Just to be very clear, that is very, very impressive. Okay, moving on to the Daniel Rodriguez and Li Jianlang fight.

The question I wanted to ask BC, and we will when he sits down, is major takeaways, how did you score it? Dana, the UFC president, afterwards seemed to be very surprised. He thought that Li had won outright. Here comes Piss McGee. BC, we're talking about the D-Rod and Li Jianleng fight. Why don't you walk in front of that camera. Just do your thing, player. And what we were talking about was, you know how Dana was like, oh man, I can't believe that this thing was even close. I can't believe it was

even a split decision. How did you score the fight? Any major takeaways from it? I scored it two rounds to one for the leech. I dude He was in insane shape I really liked these the setups to get his offense off Luke the fainting the athletic sort of switching in stances I mean he looked like a new fighter We know he bought a suit that he was unfortunately unable to show off on Thursday And I think that you know was it a robbery no because it was a close fight What surprised us the most Luke tell me if I'm wrong was that this fight was a

striking match fought at distance somewhat conservatively this is really this is the bad side of let's just take two awesome guys last minute and match him up not a lot of time to prepare the fight meant a lot to both of them their current arcs D rod coming off that long layoff but yet you know really starting to put it together dude I know D rod would never admit this didn't it look like he thought he lost as they were about to read his name? Didn't it look like he kind of thought he lost? Like he was reserved to that? He was just sort of like, yeah, all right. And then he's like, oh shit. I mean, I could be way off and, and you know, I'm a huge fan of the guy, but I thought, what did I give rounds two and three to the Leach? So the judges,

did you see the judges scorecard on this? Yes. So none of the judges did you see the judge the judge's scorecard on this yes so none of the judges agreed on a single round they all had different there was no round where they all thought one fighter one well look all the rounds were close i think it was the first one where i thought d-rod definitely because he was landing those those punches as as the leech was kind of turning his back just a little bit too much exiting out he kind of got caught with a couple there but overall he was the guy pushing the pace, getting off the leg strikes. I thought really, it was kind of making it...

D-Rod's jab was pretty good. It was kind of making it uncomfortable for D-Rod. Now, he would work his way back in with the jab. In the end, it was kind of inconclusive, I guess in some regard, in terms of who dramatically proved that they won it. But I thought it was a larger step forward in his performance for the leech, right?

Like D-Rod fought a little bit under your expectation level for this, meaning I thought D-Rod was going to go in there and mix it up and kind of win or lose in a shootout. Instead, it was sort of a distance kind of technical fight, and it's not that D-Rod isn't technically strong. He's one of my favorite strikers for that reason, but I don't feel like he gave the best performance of himself. He didn't let it go enough, Luke, in in that regard where I thought the leech showed us a

new a little bit of a new side Luke a little bit more thought and planning in the setup of his strikes okay so let me just read you the react the numeric totals whatever those were not qualitative just new mirrors counting these though fight metric so Richard Mann there's a lot of guys they have you know I used to read one of my good friends is one of the guys who does it they're very good at their job I was an editor at ESPN I used to edit Richard Mann stories they had like a fight metric deal so this is we'll go leech Rodriguez they've ever finished leach Rodriguez leach Rodriguez is the order here round one 27 to 20

okay round two 24 to 34 round three 27 34. That second round, that's a big gap. Yeah, Alan Joban tweeted me saying he thought that the second round was the swing. Yeah, I mean, listen, again, it's close enough and it's close enough statistically where by far not a robbery, but I felt my eyes thought that maybe Leach just won me over more in the moment, Luke. And I think that even though this goes down

as a loss split decision, he's coming on. The leech is coming on. I think he's going to figure it out. I think we have not seen the best of him yet. I think that this performance doesn't really hurt his stock too much. Agreed? I think it helps. I don't know if it had.

You didn't see the advancements in his game that I saw? I didn't see it as any kind of quantum leap. Oh, wow. A little Scott Balcula reference? That show was awesome for a while. It was pretty good. I could just go fucking anywhere, anytime. Like, anytime. And he did.

Yeah, I thought Leach did the best he could. The fact that he got booed. By the way, the UFC fans, I will say this is kind of funny, booing the Queen of England. Did you see that? Yes, I did. They put up a graphic and then Adam Hill of the Review Journal was saying to the crowd and the attendants booed the queen of england i was like wow i'm not sure what i was expecting but that does seem to check out for an mma event oh i don't know if there's a place in this show where we can talk about jayilton almeida um you

have to talk about that next to credit yeah i think you do i think you do it's really good right he is yeah he's a he's for him is all he used to want it he wants like he wants to be you and take your girl like he seems like that kinda guy yeah he's vicious he's vicious there is really got him I mean this I mean he's fighting and he fought some do with the best nickname ever was it like I pleasure myself pleasure man yeah I was pretty good right as pretty good nickname there's not bad

you think we'll ever see that guy again in the cage? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He trains at MMA All-Stars, I believe. And he was on Contender Series. I mean, is this guy a legit long-term heavyweight threat? Jerry Olton? Yeah. People don't have jazoots in the heavyweight division like this anymore. Not like that, yeah.

In that sense, he is unique. He's obviously fucking, like, just, you could see my man is well-muscled as well. Seems like he has good frame. I don't know I don't know the answers I don't know but he has unusual submission ability for the weight classes do you think if he was willing to be honest about it he would answer truthfully that although a little nog had a very impressive career he rode the coattails of his brother for the large part and it's probably not elite in the long run look at your stupid face your face is so stupid uh okay let's get to this here because that's why we're here bc yeah point number five jake paul anderson silver presser reaction all right so you hosted the

stream today i was there with you we sat with uh you can see the picture there was jake and logan uh just taking pictures like with the world they were only guys in the room to grandma have been hijacked that presentation kind of did she kind of did you have a shot right she did you know if what she does it's fine uh... would you make what happened there today what was a little bit weird i thought it was entertaining i i i really like the developing bromance between aerson so then she'll sign it was our by the way

we had chosen in this very room on a room service diaries. It's going to come out later this week. And Chael's great, obviously. But Chael had told us beforehand, he's like, well, actually, I haven't really seen Anderson since the second fight. I have no idea how we're going to be. I like a lot of that. I didn't mind the overall sort of respect that was shown. It was a little bit refreshing, maybe because there was some edgy jokes thrown in there where, you know, Jake's willing to show respect to the legend Anderson, but still also saying, I'm coming in there and knock him out. This is a, it's going to be a great fight because you don't know, you really don't know what it's going to look like. You really don't know. I think the boxing world, we've talked

about this before, is severely overrating Anderson just by not, under, underrating, just by the ignorance of not having seen the totality of his recent change into boxing. And I think, look, Jake's consistently overcome people's low expectations for him because he is an actor, YouTuber, you know, playing boxing, only he's not playing it. He's taking it very serious. This would be a win that he gets a certain level of critical respect that he has lacked. I think it's going to be a competitive fight regardless of who wins, meaning whoever does win is going to have to fight for it. It's going to have to show it. And I think, Luke, in the long run, do people want to see Jake beat a real boxer? Absolutely. And he tried. He tried with Rockman and Fury. And remember, it's a six pro fight. But... Get groceries delivered across the GTA from Real Canadian Superstore with PC Express.

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Don't miss out. Your chance to save in points ends February 23rd. Book at AirCanada.com. Conditions apply. You know, if he beats a guy with this level of experience, skills, class, and has to do it in a real fight where he has to show a real backbone. Okay, he got cut against Woodley in the first fight, and he rebounded getting knocked into the ropes. Could have been a knockdown. Jake rebounded well from that.

But this may be the type of fight that calls for a different level, like fighting your way out, like throwing the type of volume he hasn't had to throw in an eight-round fight yet. There are a lot of ways I think Jake, win or lose, can come out here and really win people's respect, if you will. Has he improved enough to beat Anderson? I don't know. I don't know, man. I think the odds makers kind of have it right early on with Anderson as a small but clear favorite. But I like the hill that Jake is trying to climb here. I respect that he made this fight. And I think that he's given us highlights, but we haven't seen yet a great fight from

start to finish that gets you fired up and wants you to see more. I think win or lose for Jake, this will be that fight because Anderson's not going anywhere. He's going to be there. He's the same size. And I think that this weird presser got me more excited for the fight. When I saw them stand close, you see the height advantage in Anderson. You see physically that he's no slouch. Tyron Woodley came in two weight classes under him in terms of natural weight weight this is going to be different than that i'm excited i'll tell you

what was interesting so uh a little bit of a teaser for our interview with chael son one thing we asked him was if he had like advice to give obviously you know chael fought him in mma this is boxing this is different but if you had any advice on what you learned about anderson silva what would you give to jake and his answer was to engage. You can't sit back and just kind of, you know. Let him pick you apart. Let him pick you apart or play his games or fall into any of his traps. You've got to take the fight to him. You really have to do that the entire time.

And then when we asked Jake what the game plan was, I think you asked him, or, you know, how do you beat Anderson Silva? His answer was volume was part of what we said. I've got to tell you, though, that makes me nervous. And the reason why is that I think that Chael is correct, and I think that Jake is correct, that that's the right game plan. If you're not skilled enough to pull off that game plan, you are going to leave a shit ton of openings.

The way to limit your vulnerabilities when you're relatively new is to be very selective about your offense. Which Woodley did. Woodley got the best out of himself. He, like, we criticized him for not throwing enough. I think he managed his gas tank. He knew how much he had, and he tried his best to find that one shot. And his mindset was, let me protect myself first and then throw offense second.

And that wasn't crowd-pleasing, but it got him two fights. Eventually got him knocked out. But still, it got him pretty far. You know, if Jake is who he says he is, then he's got the right idea. If he's not, he is going to have a bad day on October 29th. And that's why I keep bringing up the idea that I think this will be a real fight, meaning back and forth action. Because I don't think Jake is experienced enough yet to do what you would say the younger man should do. Ride that jab, try to win rounds on volume,

obviously try to discipline and hurt Silva. But Luke, Chavez Jr., for whatever was left of Chavez Jr. in that fight against Anderson Silva, he came in there, you could see it physically, he came in there with the idea that I'm going to do what I do. I'm just going to go to the body and overwhelm Anderson and try to expose his age. Well, what happened?

Anderson hit him with the type of shots he didn't see coming where even Chavez Jr. was like, oh shit, I can't advance on this guy. He's coiled up like a cobra ready to strike. Jake's going to get to a point, I think, where he's going to feel that first response, how quick Anderson still is, how he's able to creatively counter. And I think for him to win it, he's going to have to go in there and out-battle him. And that's going to be a tough night at the office. I mean, either way. And I think that it's going to produce action. Because if the plan A is to out-box him,

I think Anderson's going to be a little bit better than he thinks. But is Jake big enough, young enough, and ballsy enough to try to out-fight Anderson? I think that's going to be where the true level of entertainment is in there and it's going to be Jake's greatest chance to win over the detractors that he still has. Interesting. We talked to Anderson. The video should be up on Morning Combat. Boy, he seemed to be... Is he the nicest

man of all time? Jesus Christ, for a guy who has absolutely ripped people's faces off for the last 20 years, he seems to be a very nice man. And I didn't bring up the time over email that his people propositioned me. I didn't bring that up. Yeah, you're like, you really bitched out there, man. I will say, though, that Anderson's people sent me hair gel

and, you know, tight dress shirts and tight t-shirts after that. Did you ever wear them? No, because they were like two sizes too small. What about the hair gel? I used it until TSA took it away from me in Puerto Rico. What's the hair dye job we're looking at here? What do we think? I didn't dye it this time. Should I have a look at our city c l also will quickly with the audience here i know it is a i turned up the graceful you know that i

did it myself fade it's like a self aid yes it's a bad thing i mean but it looks less gray right did i look at i mean i think ultimately if you ask julia rose why did she click back and follow me why why why go to that extreme? Is it because... Is it because she wants to bang UBC? Is that it? I'm not... That is not a narrative I am presenting. Although, did you see Tyreek Hill slid in her DM six days ago? You told me about it.

Jake had to call him out for that. That's funny. That's funny. Yeah. You know, I'm not trying to run up on Jake like that. Anderson might have tried to run up on my marriage with that... Listen, you're charismatic. That's why I follow you, you know? You're a dirtbag, but you're charismatic. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way to say it. So listen, let's grade it.

BC, I texted you about this. I went to a new place, I got my haircut, and you see it was the cheapest place I could find. All right, let's go over this haircut. $60, grade my haircut. Okay, it is a good haircut. You won't be able to tell that by the lighting in the studio? Yeah, I mean, we're in,

this is like somebody who does S&M's Dungeon. Is that why you had the thing in your mouth before? You were just, yeah. The thing in my mouth. Pulp Fiction. Oh, the bulb? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were like all bent over and I was just like.

Are you referring to me as the gimp? Yeah, yeah, exactly. What was the topic we were talking about? My haircut. Oh, okay. Rate my $60 haircut. the game yeah exactly i was the topic we're talking about america all of the way my sixty dollar it is it is a s it's it's good what is the middle ground between

good and very good but you know the pink you know pick one of the other seven like it's pretty good but it did this is not even like remotely worth sixty dollars but again i know you have the entire time you're paying for the fucking rent of the place, of the owner. Okay, they have those type of barbershops in Connecticut, too. Dude, where do you live? You don't live

anywhere where that shit is a problem. There's one in downtown Hartford. Downtown Hartford is feces. Hear me out. It is. But they've got these side streets that are like brick and it's like all classy. They've got a keg in there and it's all like classy. Hartford is good for urban blight and stabbing. They charge like 30 bucks

for a haircut there but you get like a, you know, you got a keg cup and a draft. There's nudie magazine. Like it's, there's pool tables in the back.

Sounds like a really classy joint. My point is it's like a men's club. So you're paying that 30 bucks knowing, hey, I'm going to spend two hours here, have a drink,

chasing them off around, you know what I mean? There's a little basic confused reference right there. Oh my God, who are you? But Luke, here's the deal. You know what I mean? There's a little Dazed Confused reference right there. Oh my God, who are you? But Luke, here's the deal. If I want that, would I pay $30? Okay, I mean, I paid, you know, with a tip, I pay $31,

but I get the massage, I get everything. Dude, you got nothing for that $60. I got nothing. But that's not a hard haircut. That's not a hard one. You barely, you don't even have a blended fade or anything. No, it's a little blended. It's a little, the problem is my hair color is.

So why don't you take that 60 and apply it to having them color it? Courtney, you're the only, I think you're the only woman in the room. Rate my haircut, one to ten. Especially, remember, it was a $60 haircut. Can you put some respect on Carly's name? $60 haircut. I didn't see Carly back there. I can't see anything past five feet.

I'll give it a 7.5. 7.5? All right. All right. I can live with that. But 60 bucks, like, I mean, I've been to DC, bro. They took a lot from5. 7.5? All right. All right. I can live with that. But 60 bucks. I mean, I've been to D.C., bro.

They took a lot from me. Yeah, they do. The only thing they give you is the service workers give you a lot of grief. Well, dude, you try to have unsolicited conversations with the service workers. You're like, yo, how long have you been living here? They're like, look, sir, I don't give a fuck. Do you want syrup on your pancakes or not? Just what are we doing?

You can't do anything in DC without spending $40. True or false? True. True. All right. Thank you. Let's see how noisy this is. Yeah, there you go.

There's people coming and going. Just, yo, you know what I said to them? I was like, hey, can we do MK in a place that looks like there is sex crimes that happened and sounds like a bus depot and they are you know that we don't remember in clinton who went to the jake paul fight there like you will put you in the hotel next to the bus team it and they literally did it was in the fucking hotel next to the building aerial didn't have to stay there no he didn't

with that in mind it's time for DMs with dogs let's do it already? yeah are you angry at me that I've nailed them this show so far? no I think you actually

did a pretty good job oh alright yeah yeah I was pretty good this was way more this wasn't like the I was expecting you

to be like yeah Nate won let's talk about Instagram there is a difference between you and me uh huh they call me a red lighter no you call you a red lighter it doesn't matter what's going on yeah and they won let's talk about it's true there is a difference between you and me they call me a red light no you call you a red light it doesn't matter what's

going on physically mentally there i think you can go to the little bullshit that red light goes on to it's public and i want to know what i like the dance on the way in an amsterdam window how do you get to these and you've never done that i know i asked them i've told you about this is like you'll be seen in the ball prostitutes but I had no no I was I was actually with my wife so we both wanted to go see those are government regulated

prostitutes dude here is the most as if you've been to Amsterdam no this is the most fucked up part they don't tell you it's true the women are in the the they're standing there there's only separating you between this good glass you're on the sidewalk dude they are like they move around all sexy and shit and then when you walk by they make eye contact and hold it with you that's rule number one in orgy no eye contact dude they break in all the orgy rules they just do this number and as you walk they keep looking at you and then they'll like motion and shit but like sometimes they'll just look at you like they don't break contact ever it's fucking it's like um sorry i didn't mean to look at your you know whatever it's it's a little bit unnerving. We're not used to it.

A couple of them, though, followed me on Twitter. Especially if you, a couple of them. I don't think that's true. Yeah. You know what? She only follows 252 people. So do you think this is a gesture that was like, hey, thanks for. I just want to point out that, like, every time we have to have a Twitter talk on my terms,

like number of followers, you check out immediately. You get one famous follower and half the show is about this. Chuck D of Public Enemy follows me, okay? I think he used to follow me. I don't know if he still does. I got Bone Thugs in harmony. Both white guys from third base? I got Bone Thugs.

That's pretty cool. That's nice. Busy B? I don't know if it was Busy. No, it was... Is he still in the can or was that only when we were in high school? Sorry, you can say again. Is Busy B still in the can or did he get out? I thought that was if it was busy. It was... Is he still in the can or was that only when we were in high school? Sorry, you can say again. Is Busy B still in the can or did he get out?

I thought that was Flesh and Bone. That was the other one. Better check your Rolex. Your time now. Full giving up respect to the mess CTs. There you go. All that good shit. And we're going to miss everybody.

And we're going to miss everybody. All right, let's get DMs from dogs, fuckface. I mean, what are we doing? Just singing to our fucking audience? Alright, I can't read shit up in this bitch from Darren Marcus. Hi guys as a fellow Canadian I'm set all yes, I'm not a Canadian a fellow Canadian my ass was he talking to Aaron Brock Center Can I read what he's about to say fuckface? I'm saddened to hear that former tough winner Elias Theodore ooh

Alright, can we just put unfortunately passed away at the age of 34 after a battle with cancer. I believe it was liver cancer. This is a very sad story. I would like to ask you if you have a favorite memory of a fight of his. Thanks in advance. I'm glad you poisoned that well. Thank you. What did I poison? Why is he fucking talking about Canadians? I don't give a fuck about Canadians. I didn't know it was going to be an RIP situation, but can you at least address first trail South shout it out? Yeah, so she'll had a nice idea in the Marine Corps. We would call it good initiative bad judgment

He had a moment of silence during at the or the yet. He mentioned John Anderson press He was trying to do a nice thing. She was trying to do a nice thing He was trying to have a moment of silence for Elias Theodore, but he twice called himodoru Elias. No, he called him Theodore Elias. Oh, did he? Yeah. Okay, well, that's not great. It's sort of like when, like, if you went, like, your aunt invited you over to her house for your birthday, and, like, she made you a cake, and she wrote on it, but then she spelled your name

wrong. Like, what do you, you know, you're like... My aunt has never in my life invited me over for cake. Alright, alright. Not one of them. So it says a lot. Like, if, yeah, gee, there's not, there's not. All right, let's be serious

for just a minute here. Have you ever interviewed Elias? I've never met him and this is, this story is just a shocker. Here's the thing, I think he only found out about it not long ago.

Dude, liver cancer, I feel so bad. I mean, obviously, it's a tragic loss. He's 34 years old. Yeah. He was bad, he hadn't lived hardly any of his life yet. And liver mean, obviously, it's a tragic loss. He's 34 years old. Yeah. He was bad. He hadn't lived hardly any of his life yet.

And liver cancer, boy, that is a nasty one. It takes you quickly. Yeah. And, but I will say, for 34 years, he had a pretty full run. That guy was a bright light. I interviewed him twice, I think. I think once when he was on The Ultimate Fighter. He actually, I think, pitched me because he was media savvy.

He wanted to get his name out as much as possible. He had a decent UFC run. He had a decent run. Like he won more than you remember. He won as a Canadian representative of The Ultimate Fighter. And really his last sort of late push in MMA was to get marijuana through regulated as a therapeutic use exemption, which he was able to do at the last fight. I really butchered that Canadian thing off the start there in hindsight.

Yeah, it was terrible. It was terrible. But in any case, really, really terrible. So my memory was I remember talking to him through the two interviews and just finding him to be very bright, very engaged in the moment, very friendly. He was unlike a lot of the people in the industry. I think that's why so many people took to him, because he just seemed...

You ever find that dude who's just, wherever you're at, not like he's super go-lucky happy, but just always pleasant to be around? Jake. Elias was always pleasant to be around, whereas you are routinely unpleasant. R.I.P. Elias was always pleasant to be around, whereas you are routinely unpleasant. RIP. Mike Bone put out a nice first time he interviewed him.

He put it out, and I was watching it. Anytime somebody is battling something in private and then they're gone, it's a shock. The actor, the guy from Black Panther. Chadwick Boseman. Chadwick Boseman. Chadwick Boseman. Yeah, and he actually got mocked a little bit for his weight loss that we later found out was a function of his disease. You know, I'm glad that he had some privacy at the end of his life there

and didn't have to suffer in a very public way. That's great. That actually is a good thing. And, dude, life is short, man. Life is fucking short, and it can go fast. So hug your loved ones, I guess. Right? You're right.

I mean, there's not much more I can say. I think we should just move on so you can start making dick jokes again. All right. From Joby the Hut. Where is the pantheon of combat sports? Excuse me. Where is the pantheon of combat sports? Where, excuse me, where in the pantheon of combat sports chaos does this past pay-per-view rank take into account the whole week press conference weigh-ins and actual fight night? Was it more chaotic than UFC 200 when

John popped, Anderson flew in on a day's notice, Brock is jacked as shit. So that was weird. I remember when I flew into Vegas, I flew on Southwest. I remember that because I got bed bugs on the flight and fleas. I think you can get pregnant on Spirit flights nowadays. Or get your teeth knocked out. Either way. Maybe both. Yeah.

You got to pay to clean up the birthing floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not free. That's not free. You got to pay for everything, yeah. I remember when we landed, as soon as my phone turned on, all the alerts started coming through

that John had... Oh, I was there. John had popped. I was at that press conference. Yeah, I was there the next day. The fixer came out. I asked Monkey about, like, you know,

where were they going to try the contaminated supplement line, and he sort of indicated that they might. But I remember John bawling the whole time. I remember DC backstage when he found out on camera that he lost that fight. So it's up there with that. It's up there with that.

But remember, the point I'm trying to make is there was weirdness on Tuesday, Wednesday. There was weirdness for the presser. But the real shit didn't pop off until Friday. When John did that whole shit at 200, it popped off on Wednesday. And then Thursday was like fucking crazy. I can argue that this was weirder because three fights, all six stayed on the card, but they worked themselves into more interesting and almost better matchups. Then you had the Nate legacy legend exiting thing where it just was great karma that suddenly

came around against the establishment. This was up there. But also, dude, how about this one? Again, this was earlier in the week. But just think about this. The UFC has had a situation now, if you take this past week, where they had to shuffle their top six fighters, top three fights, and they did it. Or how about just moving to a different state on last fucking minute notice

when they moved from Vegas to California for Jones Gustafson II? I think all of these are not as weird as UFC 223 fight week, though. We've got to be honest about that. That was fucked. That one's the craziest. And I remember thinking, like, where you just didn't know what the fuck is going to happen next for long stretches of time. I mean, just the Conor attack. Conor in cuffs.

Yeah, it's just. And not knowing who Habib was going to fight, yet they were like, dead set. We have to do this for the title moving forward. And then it's Al. And then, you know, Akita got his ass kicked for, like, three rounds. And then suddenly, Habib's, disaster for about three rounds and then suddenly the beach like gas and i'll get here i guess it was actually a little bit weird it certainly was alright

from a really is ninety two hey thoughts on johnnie walker getting thrown out of the arena with his fight gear will probably see the no he's seen this shit coming up i don't know but i still don't know what why the fuck did he get thrown out i don't know the reason why. We'll have video very soon. Probably from Gyrating. I mean, he Gyrated from, as he normally does, before the fights, during the fights, after. He just loves to Gyrate. He got married, though.

I thought he was getting married in December or something. I think he got married already. Did he? Yeah. That's when he went in and did it? All right, so we'll talk about that there. From CubbiesFan80. Yo, I love that guy.

He's a big music fan, CubbiesFan80. Aside from Jake. Big My Morning Jacket fan, Luke. Who big music fan Cubbies fan 80 aside from my morning jacket fan Luke who's that Cubbies fan 80 yeah who's my morning jacket my favorite band that's the Indian legends yeah I thought your favorite band was joining me to go girls no no no no I mean my favorite band all time is like you know Jimi Hendrix and the experience you know what i mean okay hey less chatter you know gaff always has my back you know you were wrong that time about maniche i think maybe like maniche is a great guy but yo he's got he's he's you know he's you know i mean he's like yo i would trust gaff's got big hands too i would totally like deliver my child.

I didn't say I wouldn't trust Gap. I was just like, you know, Maniche is a guy I trust. Yo, we're in Los Angeles. Maniche has a song out on iTunes called Lonely Angeles, but he's not here right now. He's following some punk band around the world. He's never here for us when we need him, bro. Okay? Gap is always there.

We can't get rid of this guy, dude. I love Gap. What's his last name? Don't say it. Pierre. okay from cars is always there we can get rid of this guy you've got a lot of gas what's his last name said uh... are aside from jake paul uh... is there an actual boxer out there with a name that at that as the rolling stones would sing the wrote sign a little bleary worse for wear and tear that Nathan Diaz could get a really big payday against.

So they want an actual boxer who's like old but has a name? Who's a name that Diaz could fight that he could maybe rough up that's just washed to shit? Who do you think would win a match between him and Oscar De La Hoya? Who's 47 and inesus in shape though but i don't want to see that oscar early but then i don't know okay what about nate versus gsp in a boxing match you don't care about that i think gsp would fuck him up in a boxing match yeah is there an actual aging boxer i don't know man i mean is there any seriously let me ask you this let's say Jake Paul gets just fucking stretched by Anderson Silva but I've seen Rockman jr. ends up

beating Vitor does Nate fight has seen rock lightweight and welterweight has seen Rockman's oh yeah too far I guess like yeah I mean look I even a question size silly silly question yeah but no of Nate moving up to fight Jake they're still gonna be a legitimate size difference what about this would you cuz look Nate star power right now Jake, there's still going to be a legitimate size difference. What about this? Because, look, Nate's star power right now is back. It's almost back where it was in 2016, almost, because of the sort of baby-faced legend push that he's getting.

Floyd Mayweather versus Nate Diaz in a boxing match. Your thoughts? I think Floyd still wins. Maybe you could sell that because Logan, who's much bigger, stood up to the... I mean, Logan got stolen consistently in that fight, but he didn't go down, you know? He's a big kid. He's bigger than Nate. Would there be interest? He's bigger than Nate.

Would there be interest? Probably. Would it be remotely competitive? would there be interested in it would there be interest probably would be remotely competitive i mean if i were to have a really good edition i don't know if he keeps at around once this one of the one of these times in a run to a young guy yes the thing is that he's been the things been doing hours ago i'm gonna fight some nobody on the top of the stall as building in the middle east for super

money it's like a school but i don't you know that there's no real threat they like I feel like Nate I'm made in Pacquiao doesn't do anything for you right thank you to pack you a welcome yeah I think it's just too fast too good okay all right lastly from Cole underscore Brown 858 and I know that Floyd's fighting this rising thing but like you know and what the fuck is that? All right. Which of the upcoming pay-per-view cards do you believe will get the most buys?

Olivera Makachev or Adesanya Pereira? The Adesanya one is Madison Square Garden and is freaking loaded. It has what? Chandler versus? Yes. It's a pay-per-view in the capital of the media market of North America. And it's a loaded-ass card. And Poirier Chandler. It's that one. Although I will say theass card, and Poirier Chandler. It's that one.

Although I will say, the better card, both are pretty good cards, but that Olivera Mahachev card is... Is what? Olivera Mahachev in the main event. Then TJ versus... TJ Dillashaw versus Aljamain Sterling. Correct. And what's the third awesome fight? First of all, also Bilal and Sean Brady are on that one.

That's a great fight. Dariush is... Let me pull that up here real quickly. Oh, isn't it? Gamrot have a big fight. Yes. Dariush versus Gamrot is on that card. And then Sean O'Malley versus Piotr Jan. That card bangs. Yeah, that card bangs. That card motherfucking bangs. Okay, but commercially, the people think that Adesanya has the potential to meet his match here. That's the narrative, right? The thing is, it's just harder to sell a pay-per-view. Now, maybe they'll move the Abu Dhabi time to maximize sales, but if it's an afternoon pay-per-view, it definitely won't do as much. So here's 281 for comparison's sake.

So it's Izzy and then Alex in the main event, Carla and Zhang. I don't know what that's going to do for buys, probably not much. Dan Hooker and the Prince of Peru, Claudio Pueyas. Brad Riddell, Hanato Moikano. That's a pretty good card. You'll see KB in the house. No, no, no. For sure, 281 is not as good as 280.

For sure. But there's some good ones. Carlos Olberg is on it against Nikolai Negumarano. His DMs are going to be fire. It must be nice to be him, honestly. Also, Molly McCann against Aaron Blanchard. That's a really good fight. That's a really good fight.

Yo, what do you think about this Molly and Patty Patty uh bar buddy cop duo bar stool uh you know really I haven't seen much of it I don't know I mean if that listen you love to hate you are like me in the sense that we both like to hate on people's good times but I'm not trying to hate on good the only people's good times I've hated on are Michelle Pineda when it's not focused on winning the fight. Right? He was there cornering Johnny Walker. Did you see him? Yeah, I did.

I watched the card, yeah. Where did you watch the fights? In your hotel room? From my Hollywood hotel room. And, you know, because my wife's like, you should go out in the Walk of Fame and, you know, send me pictures and stuff. And, you know, you're out there for a couple minutes and then you're like, I think I can go back inside. Yeah's I it's it's halfway to the I don't know I love West Hollywood right I love Beverly Hills

Oh Santa Monica and Venice and Manhattan Beach you know I love all I love Watts baby all right just just well let's say all those neighborhoods you just love the whites I mean that's really where you're headed wow that's really, really, really. I rock with Eagle Rock here in L.A., okay? That's a Filipino area. Okay, cool. I don't know much about L.A., but I know it's pretty diverse.

All right, all right. I think we're, now it's time for your shit. Time for old VCs feces. Let's do it. So here's what I did. I got a small batch. It's like a micro-dose batch this time, all right? You know, small batch is like craftsmanship.

So I scoured the globe from this past weekend for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, the in-between. We're going to look at Jose Aldo's unbelievably terrible tattoo. The world of combat, sports, and beyond. Hey, Luke, you don't have an audio ability to hear some of these, but our fans will. Okay, that's fine. They call this heavy.

...right now, and I'll just like, you know, ba-dum uh ufc 279 in las vegas otherwise known as the chris barnett show yeah luke it started this is moments after missing weight he came out for the ceremonial luke he missed weight had to donate a portion of the purse, but he's still living, brother. People love a jolly big man, do they not? Dude, I tweeted it, and it's true. Fat guy MMA is the best MMA, and it always is, Luke. It always is, okay? Yeah, but he's just happy, too.

He's not like one of those fat guys with a bad attitude. My man's just in a good mood. Doesn't he have one of the craziest backstories that's going to start to really get published? By the way, he also reps Spain because his dad was in, I think, the Air Force. Dude, I love Chris Burnett. Luke, it continued to him firing the crowd up on his way to the cage. If we can show that next. I mean, Luke, this is before.

I mean, you only got so much gas in that tank, bro. I don't know if you want to be pouring it out, you know, Michelle Pereira style, right? Let me ask you. he would need the right roommate, right? Like, imagine if this was your roommate. Would this work? Yo, he would destroy the bathroom. Yeah, oh, I mean, the commode would be just abolished the first day, I mean. Yo, he might, you know, here's the thing, it's like, I got high energy on the air, Luke, but off the air, I'm low T for days. Like like you're trying to

like touch me and hang out with me and i'm just like me you know i'm not really into that to be fair uh luke let's continue this after he rallied from the you know the brinks of hell to stop jake collier we got another one of these fat guys slammed oh my god but flew that he probably broke his coccyx with that but i'm here here for it. The crow went apeshit. He loves this celebration. And the fact that he didn't really stick it there but kind of did is just so great. What did you make of his promo? We're not going to play it here, but he shouted out the fans and the UFC on like an exploitative level.

But yet it came across as very earnest. So the problem was I know he won over a lot of fans. I literally was not in my room at the moment he made that. No, no, no. I was listening to the commentary, but I had to do something in the house. I actually ended up missing it. What did you do in the house? I was making some food. Could have made it before the pay-per-view started.

I know, but I didn't. You could have told all those women in your life, cook. Also, he wasn't on the main card, right? Yeah, women can cook just as good as men. Yeah, that's not why you want them in your life, cook. Also, he wasn't on the main card, right? Yeah, women can cook just as good as men. Yeah, that's not why you want them in the kitchen, though. I mean, that's what you were suggesting there. No. Yeah, why don't you come to my house and order my wife around?

You see how that goes for you there, buddy? You know, I would love to order Spanish women around at your house, though. They're not Spanish. They're Colombian. Yeah. They speak Spanish, but they're not Spanish. That's my pet peeve. Don't do that shit.

So you say I ignorantly label them as being from Spain there's a thing that East Coast people do where if anyone is Hispanic yeah they refer to them as Spanish but they're not Spanish people who are Spanish are from Spain and are wildly different than people who are from what if I do make a public order you go house all right yeah you try that bro okay you guys I'm a white guy want to go smack talk some latinos bro you let me know how that goes that's going to be an epic elliot you know who don't take shit either irish women

about women who respect themselves on talk about carly yeah alright um... but there is an open mic out has everyone's diamond in uh... let's go to let's go to to Chris Barnett after they announced him as the winner. Dude, I kind of like the promo we cut to let the fans know how much they fuel him. And, dude, he just is unlimited in what he can do. Like, he's basically like you at, like, your sloppiest wedding when, like, come on, feel the noise came on, and you're just dancing.

He is. Shows open. He is as routinely happy. Like, I've never been this happy once and he's this happy always you're like I was 10% this happy when we won that award big yes maybe eight or nine percent had this happy and he's just this happy yeah yeah you know I can't believe I called the women in your life Spanish yeah they're not they're not they're not from Spain finally Chris Barnett was given party favors on the way out, Luke.

He didn't drink out of his shoe, but two different fans gifted him with a, you know. Look, my man's eye, he looks like, you know, God bless him. He's a great guy. But in that moment, after his eyes all fucked up, he looks like Sloth from the Goonies. Yeah. And he doesn't give a shit. Look at him, ear to ear. So does Marvin Vittori, though.

Yep, ear to ear grinning, carrying beers, and they took him to the hospital after this. And you know they left him at the UFC, didn't give him a ride home from the hospital? He did like a livestream outside of it? Yeah, that's not great. You think he drank that beer? I'm guessing he drank that beer. Okay, shout out to him. But they make you go right to the medical tent when you get out of the fight.

The first place you go is to get medically evaluated. More UFC 279 content. Did you see women's strawweight Elyse Reid rock out with her own weird dance after decisioning Melissa Martinez? Luke, this is like me at the club. Like, I'm trying to figure out. You wouldn't know this by looking at me, Luke? Yo, I can dance. I don't believe that.

No, dude. Even a little. You're like, oh, BC, I bet you're an unathletic piece of shit and you're just washed and all that. And some of that is true. Dude, just because you can dry hump with rhythm does not mean you can dance ashley and mitch won't invite me to the wedding but if they did i would tear up that dance floor all right y'all would tear up that dance floor dude i like how you're doing the comedy hour for the people on set the people at home don't know what the fuck you're talking about all right uh luke johnny walker

got a much needed win over iwan kutelaba by first round submission. Helen Esports, who we just talked to out here before, captured this. Look at him do the worm from up high above the arena. Isn't this how he fucked himself up before? Yeah. He fell. He did one of those front forward falls. Dude, what is it like to be so happy where people have to come up to you

and be like, please stop dancing? Just stop dancing. Like, just for your own safety. Just dance too much. You know that commercial that frank thomas and doug flutie do oh for like that bullshit do nothing and then frank is natural to your life like it too dude you should take those because if you text that four digit code they'll send it like right to your door is it like new new genix yeah i mean it's probably like made

out of lighter fluid and shit but like yeah you're just eating pig rectum and fucking wood chips i mean it's nothing yo but i just want to see you happy like i don't care much about your performance in bed but like i just want to see you happy i need to get on i need to get on steroids for the spanish women in your life i think you should there are no special no that's why i kind of went back to the well check your temperature right there yeah here we go all right now luke um this was johnny walker as we mentioned before getting kicked out of the arena. He's back at the Park MGM Hotel with no shoes and his gloves on and no shirt. How the hell does this happen?

Do they think he was an observer? You know what? How low do you have to think of MMA fans to think that this guy has just been an MMA fan who wandered around? Hey, is John Kevin off the hook here? This was a much-needed Johnny Walker performance, showing you a newly added jiu-jitsu game. Like we said, in fairness to Tony, he had won half a camp, basically, with Jackson Wink. Let's see how it goes if he continues.

It takes time for a coach and a fighter to gel. Also, you know... It doesn't take much time for us to gel. We have that natural chemistry. Can you show the people the flavor of bang energy drink that your kids rainbow unicorn but my point is if you drink bang energy drink how discerning about the flavor is supposed to be i mean i mean you don't have to be the this summer low nineteen seventy four

argentina is uh... is there a tougher flavor of vape? Of all that stuff. Of vape you could be vaping? Like, you're always like, yo, I got the watermelon buffalo. And I'm like, dude, like, there's not like... Now that you remind me. There's not like pre-cancer flavor or anything like that? I mean, like explicitly pre-cancer flavor? I don't think so.

Something a little more manly, Luke, right? What flavor would you vape if you vaped? Like charcoal? No, you'd do like gas station hot dog vape. No, my liver can't hold up on that, Luke. All right, Luke, a big... Oh, here we go. What flavor is that shit?

This is... I think this is like passion ice or some shit. Do you know that people don't respect you because you won't vape vape marijuana and you only vape who says i don't vape marijuana tobacco who on their motherfucking i'm just playing this is i don't vape marijuana all right hey luke did you hear nate diaz is finally a free man um did you see the end of this interview with megan olivi that uh espn cut out and didn't show this part moving forward uh was going to be

this is the best maybe as a little moment we can forget the internet for us when the main event you're huge shit on the bullshit uh... wannabe uh... what's his beef with the rock report he's not getting paid for it is that's what we'll talk to that BMF don't put her on yeah or or he was shouldn't though he was should on the rock that night in New York

Nate Smith's out whether you're real or not like left and right it's not that the rock isn't real but the Rockies the rocks the rock peak of commercialization rock the rock promotes his friendship with Jeff Bezos he is a corporate avatar so they thought why would I wear this bullshit sneaker you know and i don't blame the correct uh... all-time great promo here from a this is after the homes i think fell

apart at the ceremonial way in talking about those california g's there we should have fun that the it's a different it's just reported that you have to be back here and i don't make not make way you know

you know what california american motherfucker question bc the census ds twenty four you keep the shot of the birthday thing that was necessary i don't know i gotta say that was a real americana moment right? You know you think could be really really did nothing at World Series of fighting my there's video of it I'm not sure what he did I will say this don't you agree the fact that he like the like, you know, they asked him like if he had just been like

Oh hum hums, that's lame which he did call him But you know the other thing that he called him I thought wasn't like he called him a d sucker after and I was not even that when he called him a rookie He's like this fucking rookie can't even make weight that really like yeah hums I would probably beat Diaz's ass but there was a real I'm up here you're down there kind of moment when he did okay what would happened if the main event went off as I think I was I would have torn him limb from limb so what would have been a stoppage due to what probably would have gone a couple rounds

and then I think he would have just physically held him down away where he couldn't defend himself and then stopped with TKO, yeah. Or a cut, yeah. I'm so happy it didn't happen because we would have not gotten this moment. How about the respect here from Nate and Tony, two real ninjas, bowing afterwards? I popped for this. Did you or were you like done at that point?

I did pop a little bit for it, yeah. Like I just don't want bad things to happen to Tony. Can we be honest? He looks washed to shit, and I love Tony. He just looks washed, bro. Dude, you can't have a career like he did. And again, I'm going to keep saying that. Here's the thing.

In the fight game, all that we ever care about is the present. That's it. Who's hot? Who's up? Who's down? What did you do? It's so present-oriented that there's never any considerations for the fact that when someone's in a really bad beating, fucking stop it early, dude.

And I remember after that fight, people were like, yeah, the beating was bad, but Tony will come back stronger. Tony will be fine. I'll take some time off. He'll be fine. Dude, that shit is irreparable. It is irreparable. Yo, Lynch, are we being harsh on this guy?

Yeah, I knew he was on our side. Damn it. He's watching pornography. Yeah. yeah I knew I knew he was on our side damn it I look he's watching pornography yeah Luke after the win Nate would would shout out ESPN's Mark Ray Mundy for doing that story in which he embedded himself in the Stockton I know how to market that story that's a nice little that's a nice gig let's see what he said can you imagine the contact story he said at the house for a few days and we smoked all night He was smoking so much weed.

He was getting so high. I was like, come on, hit the bar. He was like, yeah, I'm going to do it. And anyways, I'm just playing. He wasn't smoking weed, but we were just trying to make him smoke weed. Yo, Raimundi was out there earlier. I didn't ask him.

I hope that for his sake that he embraced the entire situation. You know he got a secondhand high easy. They probably blew that shit right at him. Dude, Raimundi told me a a story I could embarrass him so bad right now should I do it well I like him a lot so I don't I don't want this no no like it's embarrassing funny okay oh it's tempting all right you know I'm gonna fuck it I'm gonna do it mark I love you don't get mad don't get mad you know

mark told me mark told me he was he was at I think he was a Diaz's house or like Diaz's like photographers I was like someone's house when he was part of there. And my man went in there, and he's like, you know, I need to go blow up your commode. And he did. He went to Diaz's house, apparently, I think it was him or his photographer, and he took a monster dump. This is what Mark Romani told me. And then he went to go flush, and it didn't work.

Oh, dude. So I was like, what did you do? Okay, well, well let's pause what do you do that you don't say anything so first my first first first course of action is check the make sure the water pressure is on with the little thing at the bottom yep and if that take the top off and then you can manually flush and then check for a plunger yeah well he is you know he's not Bob Vila which is an old man reference he's like I don't know what the fuck to do so he just kept trying to hit it and he said after like 20 tries it hit and it finally worked uh but i've got a tremendous story related to this i'll save it for a future room service diaries so sorry mark i didn't mean to blow up your spot but uh we don't have it here but dude nate i did

mean to blow the fight was stopped at 209 of round four it's just life is joe rogan put out on instagram that we are living in a simulation. You see shit like that and you're just like, it doesn't make sense anymore. It just doesn't make sense. This whole thing did not make sense. I think that's why it was easy to fall into the conspiracy bunk because none of it made sense. None of it. But that's the fight game, dude. You stick around long enough. Here's the thing.

Yes, this weekend was particularly crazy. We just talked about it. There's going to be another weekend probably not that far away. Not this crazy. Not that's crazy but something you just can't I remember when Nate Marquardt was got bounced in the UFC because of the whole TRT thing and then the drug tests and everything else and Nate what was it Dana got on social media or Facebook whatever was at the time and was like that's flashing now that's uncomfortable yeah is that

camera still work guys and he was he was like, you know, Nate and Mark Hart will never fight in the UFC again. We're like, what the fuck is going on? It was a whole thing. So it was always crazy. Yo,

if Hamza pulled out and gave an excuse that he had an STD, would you respect him? He's like, yo, I got chlamydia. I can't fight this weekend.

You'd be like, been there, bro. I told you I had a friend whose dad was a doctor and he would get the clap and then call his dad and his dad would write him prescriptions. That's a great father-son bonding relationship there.

Hey, Luke, they've been waiting all frickin' week for you to rate that tat. Oh, no. King of Heo edition, Jose Aldo got a Tristan the cameraman

looking sleeve right here in terms of just aggressive animals. Yo, shout out Tristan. He's not here right now. Yeah, no, Tristan's is different than this. Shout out Tristan. He's not here right now. Yeah, no, Tristan's is different than this. Yo, Tristan has like wolves and shit that'll eat you, right? If you do enough drugs around Tristan's arm, it may come to life.

This thing is a mess. Okay, but you were so harsh on Brazilian legend Mr. Hibas for that honor that he gave to his daughter. Then why don't you keep that same energy for the greatest 145 this is what I just this is what I just don't get I was talking about this with my wife it's like dude Jose Aldo has all the money and all the resources like all the connections he could pull in Brazil do there's very high level tattooing in Brazil you're like mr. he busty attention was good but maybe didn't have all the funds to make it

work I think what the problem is people don't and I've made some mistakes really on the tattooing as well I want to be very clearly it's not as people think it's obvious yeah but uh... you need to you have to do your homework up front about who you select as the guys in the return to this is not the resistance to this is all though this is like not even like okay this is had it was bad what's really hot a lot of the death what is really bad okay so first of all that let's just start where it's really, really bad.

The clock on his forearm or the inkwell, whatever it is between those, is just a mess. Is that him and his family at the bottom watching it as the UFO lands? Is it possible? Look at the circle. It's all fucking totally off. The portraits of the lions, it looks like it's hand drawn by a child. You know, that kind of looks like a Sarlacc pit monster, that clock, right? Yeah, and then the family silhouette at the bottom is like, okay, it's not so bad. But

like the shading around it with like what are supposed to be either clouds or smoke or some other kind of bonding, everything about it is just off, dude. It's super off. If you're going to go with portrait realism for the top of that, which is what he wanted. So here's what he wanted. For folks asking what would be the kind of tattoo he wanted, he wanted black and gray portrait realism. That is really what he wanted, at least for the upper arm. And then the bottom arm, he could have gotten a few different kinds. He would do black and gray.

But the upper arm is certainly portrait realism. Dude, what about that is portrait realism? Nothing. Does that look like a photograph to you? Nothing about that is portrait realism. I will say the fact like a photograph to you? Nothing about that is portrait realism. I will say the fact that he didn't get his ass all tatted up, I do have a lot of respect for him. Okay.

So I'm going to tell the story. Why don't you do that? Why don't you try to, like, can you take a poll on this room of whether people, like, think that, you know, it's normal for you to be remotely down with ass tats? Not even to look at. You're like, yo, I need that on my,

I need my old flabby ass cheeks tatted up added all of the my prayer or not because i represent the tribe you know you ain't part of the trial you know only because i'm here for uh... if you've got the indian flag you finally recognize them the way that they should i would be down with that but they had nothing to do with that yet isn't to do that so i ended up getting a tattoo on saturday as well have to show when it heals but the guy one of the guys of the guy that so i ended up getting a tattoo on saturday as well have to show when it heals

but the guy one of the guys of the guy who did my tattoo but the guy was across was a huge mk fan turned out like you guys name forgot the bill bill hawkson like that uh... for us and apologize you know that with names but the reality is this he was a giant mk fan couldn't have been nicer and within two seconds you send a picture of his ass i

have a right here as a matter of fact. You're like, this guy loves you. Here's his ass. So this guy, he told me, he's like, dude, I heard BC's take on ass tats, and it broke my heart. And here's, can we put the camera on me? Here, I'll show you. This is his actual back piece. Wow, does he work out?

This is his back piece. It took three years to do. Three years it took. I asked him, or no, the guy who did my tattoo asked him if you knew how bad it was going to hurt would you do it again he's like no i wouldn't and he echoed andy ruiz's comments that apparently when he got it in like he has apparently it's so far in his ass that the only thing not tattooed in that area is his actual butthole like everything else grundle and taint completely i don't know about the grundle and taint but certainly on the back of the thighs

and like the ass and then everything in between like i'm not going to do that so it's not saying that's a bit much because i did anything loves you he loves it but he said he wants to be he wants to see the come to the shop so he can't fight convinced him that he wants to see really touching my prick but that

that they're nice guy but there you go so he so you have some people who are fans of yours we got a rap? oh keep it running what the fuck what are we doing that's all we do is talk huh? oh ok is this still live?

I mean this is the worst show we've ever done let's just be honest about that oh sorry Matt got it alright quickly here we go. Social Gloves pay-per-view from Los Angeles, Luke. You see the schmo on that broadcast? I did. I did after the fact.

Well, how about Swaggy P., Nick Young, and The White? Just. And the fight was called off, Luke. Yeah, you know, once you get a guy this inexperienced falling through the ring ropes, it's time to call it a day. He hit his shoulder, I think, on there, and he decided not to continue. Was he looking for a way out?

Hold on. I don't know. Let me ask a question. And I'm a little bit checked out in the NBA if they don't play for the Wizards, which he does not anymore. Is he still in the NBA? Do we know? Anyone know if he's still in the NBA? I don't think he is. Oh, he's retired? I don't think you can be in the NBA and do this bullshit. Yeah, I guess you're not straight, yeah. Yeah, all right. Well, they also had the battle of the running backs, Adrian Peterson versus Le'Veon Bell, and Peterson's in the dark. So this was a nice shot he set up here.

And now he's in the darkness of hell after that. That's a legit knockout. Dude, he showed him. He leaned in. He showed him the face as a target. He used it to cheat the distance and then just drove a hand into him. Yo, um, no, that would be a bad joke to reference AP's kids and all that storyline, you know? Have you ever seen the family guy joke?

No. Where it's like Adrian Peterson and his kid are walking through the forest. Like, I really, I went on this nature walk and an in-family guy, the Adrian Peterson goes, I'm like, I can't wait to beat you with all these sticks. Oh, that's just not necessary. Do you think he ever boxes again? AP? Yeah.

Probably not. Unless Frank Gore calls him out. Yeah, that's Frank Gore calls. All right, in the main event, pre-diabetic gas station attendant Annie St. Gibb got up off the are in the main event prebed that diabetic gas station attended and he said you've got up off the canvas in the dark trunks their loops in stopped austin mcbroom it was also anywhere i some uh... everybody know what he actually does beyond

a family blogger of whose family that's all the hell all right well sort of all of your family i'd rather just get hit by a car Whose family? His? That sounds like hell. Wow. All right. Well, I'm trying to vlog with your family. I'd rather just get hit by a car. And Easton Gibb got knocked out in Jake Paul's pro debut. And it was a big comeback for him.

Ooh, that's a nice shot, though, right? So the quality of this win is he beat a young guy who films him and his family? I don't know. Ray Flores on the call, though, with Paulie Malignaggi and Mikey Garcia. All right. All right. Luke, let's go to some random boxing here. There was a fight card Friday night in South Florida from Pro Box TV.

And look at this ref getting a piece of it. Fuck off, ref. Oh, that ref's got a good chin, though, right? Oh, God. Yeah. Get out of there. OK. Luke, Alicia Baumgartner was supposed to be fighting Michaela Mayer in the all-female pay-per-view in boxing.

Clarissa Shields in the main event event that got pushed off to october fifteen but here's a little mix the sound that bomb gardener was given us to this weekend intense to women that's one of our bank and this is what it is when i say i'm a dog on my dog mcclure so and when i say i'm not dog walk, that's what I'm going to do. She's the poodle, right? So my terminology, she doesn't understand culture terminology. So

she's like, well, which one am I? Am I the dog or are you the dog? You don't understand terminology, so I'm not even going to explain that to you. What do you think you can take advantage of? Her body. She leaves her, listen, because she's a little taller than me, I'm a little shorter. I'm going to that body. I'm sn snatching her ovaries I'm killing her to the body it's probably gonna be honest hearing her so that sounded like you looking at your phone when you're on his Instagram pages up considering that she wants to eat Michaela's ass and snatch her ovaries how much more interested are in this fight are you know first one of

those is kind of interesting. All right. Thank you. A couple weeks back, we had a different YouTube boxing card. Luke, I forgot to show you this one. I think you were on vacation. Watch this guy attempt a celebratory flip. I mean, please stop forever. Oh, my God. Yes.

Please stop. CTE for everybody, Luke. You get a, yeah, thank you, Oprah. Okay, let's keep it going here. Luke, BKFC 29 from Montana. first of all grateful shout out to britain heart beltran when the inaugural strawweight title but joe riggs diesel on the call main in no contest with the children's is a higher so

many injury look at that had one full uh... lucy said he'll come back this won't stop them but that kind of him stopped in the fight. Wow. Yeah. You know what? BKFC should just make headbutts legal. I mean, what the fuck else? Yeah, at this point, yeah. Luke, Real recognized Real in the boxing world this week. Bud Crawford, look at this, rubbing shoulders with Jigga. Jay-Z. Can we sign this right already? Hove, huh? Maybe Hove can hold can help hold used to be a boxing promoter of iraq nation yes

that would know where can you guys are up inside the store spends crawford fight already please guys we deserve this jay-z can you help us make this point thank you uh... look let's keep it going on fast in the food fast and furious gave us a great uh... this watch just oh just dude these people getting pants i think these are tryouts for for uh ff9 luke um that guy got pantsed by a moving vehicle he got pantsed in like the worst high school nightmare kind of you know like have a nightmare about the worst way

you could get embarrassed this is up there with it yeah that's the that's the that's the hams achamayev of getting embarrassed that is yeah that's a that's the that's the that's the homes are too mild of getting embarrassed that is that's a that's the last day out here live in his life a core model time and i've once in a household is a little everywhere here to add to our this young guy pay i got into my set to bring my guy was right for shots right for district at all of our d c n r c big family iran is right i think you're going to be them for all these awards

dc r c yeah i would like to. Yeah, because we beat DC and Hawaii that time. I do like DC, though. Luke, let's show some love for Hibachi, right? Like the grill? Yeah. Oh, Junior. Yeah, you got a little too close to the action there, Luke. We've been there, though, right? Is there smoke alarm? There might be. I've got to stop. All right. Luke, this is my favorite video in a long time to help this undertaker fan of w w e f or until you go into the how botch e okay this kid

right okay so that's what the fucking kids off and she really doesn't want to ask it i'm not this kid this is good this gives a a well-known wrestling family i don't know if you guys are interested to just now this is a true story Yo! Yo, I'm going to adopt this kid. I'm going to steal this kid. This kid's a well-known wrestling fan. He has his own IG account. I didn't tell you this until just now.

This is a true story. Somebody from Jake's, when we were doing the show, someone from Jake's camp walked behind me, and they were FaceTiming Ric Flair. Oh, are you serious? They were FaceTiming Ric Flair as they walked, because they were walking real slow. And I saw it, and I was like, is that fucking old-ass Ric Flair? Maybe it was your buddy who lives in the same building as the most insane bar with a more fancy's rick flair out just i mean

the prudence around all the rest mario sometimes at the hibachi or really any situation which reading asian food if you run out of chopsticks you have to get creative check out this that look at his fork yeah or a barbie doll mission is a for position and there is some reason a fork with sushi. You okay with this? I mean, it's inventive.

He's using Barbie's legs. You know, it's a little creepy. I mean, is Barbie the best representation of an American woman right now, or is that putting too much pressure on young women to try to live up to an impossible standard of a waistline? I think you answered the wrong question. Yeah, I think so, too. That's why my kids are not allowed to play with Barbies. Your kids are also boys.

I really want to. Yeah. All right, Luke kids are not allowed to play with Barbies. Your kids are also boys. They really want to. Yeah. All right, Luke, we got a couple more for you. They call this Barack Obonga. I'd hit it. I'll hit the DeSantis version in 2024 if I have to, right? Diaz DeSantis 2024. All right, there you go.

And finally, Luke, the NFL was back this weekend. Yo, fuck the Commanders. Check out this Rams fan. for my after the as the census with more and more and there you go and finally look the nfl was back this weekend you'll fuck the commanders to know this ram's face the i saw one of the i thought was funny i saw one of you see a sorry

they got different rules are you tom hanks in philadelphia was a lot they got different rules of the more co Hanks in Philadelphia? What's going on? Oh, wow. They got different rules at the Malco West office. We've got to work here more often. They don't work here at all. I mean, they just, they do nothing. What I was going to say was, BC, someone sent me one of a fan at UGA game where the number was 18 and his name was Please Be. Oh, no, that's pretty good.

That's pretty gross. That's pretty gross. All right, are you done here? Yeah. We're done here? Two-hour show. You you pulled a two hour show out of our ass on this draw me like your French women I hope you get decapitated in the train I bet you're gonna take a Titanic shit no I bet I do have to piss I haven't even watch it all right reminder a vote for us because we don't deserve it at all but you should over is just the same world MMA awards comm slash nominees.

Thanks, everyone, from the Malka office east who's here. Thanks to Malka West for making this possible. I appreciate that. And what else we got going on? Let's see. There you can follow us on social. We're on TikToks where all the ninos are. What else we see?

You ever want to do one of those hot chip challenges? Or you're like, no, I don't want that. I'm overdue for one. We can do one. We can do one. All right. I don't think I could survive it. You could survive it.

Yo, because I got breakfast at like a legitimate, authentic Mexican place. And I said, what about? And they gave you chips and salsa for breakfast. And I dipped into the red sauce. Dude, it was so hot, I almost threw up. Am I just weak? Or are the Mexicans here strong? A little column A, column B.

OK. Although you're eating salsa, not Mexicans. So I'm not sure what you mean by that. It was a Mexican restaurant. They served an extremely hot salsa with no water. I don't believe that it was extremely hot. Don't believe me. You remember when you thought I blew you off last night?

Yeah, you didn't. You just looked at my text and you were like, yo, eat a dick. Yo, I passed out in my clothes. That I can believe. But I still think you saw my text and you were just like, you know, I'd rather just die than hang out with you. Why are you always trying to hang out with me? I mean, we host a show together. Having some kind of a relationship probably matters, right?

All right. Like, let's figure this out. So the show is almost over. We're about to be done here. And when we are, are we going to hang out after the show up so the show is almost over about to be done here and when we are uh... we're gonna hang out after the show into my cars coming by my my time for a pre-card map jonathan so just say we're not hanging out there

do you want to help and the crew or just into what's up with the air no comment or show me the pictures like that guy's tattoo without the undies. He didn't give me the full Monty, if that's what you're talking about. I mean, like, I don't know, dude. He's a fan of yours.

You're going to hurt his feelings. Yo, do you think if Sean Brady beats Bilal Muhammad that this guy could do my tattoo? We've got to see what Showtime would pay for. But he could, yeah. Because I'm thinking about, like, a nature scene, but, like, very vibrant colors. So this guy does single needle stuff, too. He's really talented. For a white guy to have really popping oranges and pinks and purples, does that hurt more?

No, it depends. It mostly depends on where you get it and how long you've been sitting in the chair. But the only difference is that a lot of times you get black and gray with a single needle. If you do color, they use multiple needles at once, because it's faster for the saturation. Oh. Remember that scene in Google Hunter where he's like, sky rockets in flight.

Ba-da. Afternoon delight. All right, well, let's see. Much better things to do with my time. That's what that guy said. Pay that was rounders. but pay that man his money. All right. Let's see.

Also want to thank CBS Sports and MorningCombat.store if you want to go buy some shit for no good reason. And then we're done. We have to get out of here. RJ, we're looking for you, bro, OK? They got to be out of here in an hour, so we need to call it a day. So for Brian Campbell, for everyone in the room, for everyone who watched, thank you.

We'll see you on Wednesday, and until next time, may all your gains be loyal. You don't have to take your clothes off to have a good time. Oh, yeah.