MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC 317 Pregame Preview: Topuria vs. Oliveira Presented By Cuervo® | Morning Kombat

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

The fellas are back with special guest Chuck Mindenhall to break down everything UFC 317. This edition of Pregame Preview is sponsored by Cuervo.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Oh Yeah, ufc Oh, yeah. UFC 317 week is upon us. International flight week. Might as well do a pre-game preview brought to you by, where have I fired up for this? Morning Combat in the building right here. Brian Campbell, Chuck Mindenhall, Luke Thomas. Thursday, June 26, 2025. Noon Eastern start today, but Luke just got off the bird, better late than never, fired up to be here. And a reminder that this episode of Morning Combat is also brought to you by DraftKings with DraftKings, the Crown. Is your shout out to everybody watching on the DraftKings network on YouTube, please like, subscribe, shout out to you audio only listeners, just the same. Those are our social handles to follow us, but you know why you're here,

guys, with the biggest pay-per-view of the summer, at least in theory is upon us. The biggest star in this promotion, at least in my eyes and your groin, is also here. Pentosia cover of the UFC magazine. But before we get into UFC 318, Chuck Mendenhall, by the way, of or 317 or 18 and Chuck Mendenhall, uncrowned fame and many other. I mean, this guy's like, hey, give him the horn. Hey, man, where is that horn? Oh, there it is. I mean, I should I should. There's no Ballyhoo for me.

You're the one who just came in from Florida, man. So I just I just rolled in on a train from Chuck. I mean, I'm going to have to just's no Ballyhoo for me. You're the one who just came in from Florida, man. So I just, I just rolled in on a train. Well, Chuck, I mean, I'm going to have to just break into this right away and say, yes, lots of talk about UFC 317. God, I want Elia versus Islam, maybe one day, but there was a major retirement this week that has set the internet on fire and I'd like to get your take. How will you ultimately remember Cheyenne Vlissmus?

Does she retire? I didn't even. Yes, she's going to focus on motherhood. Well, you talk about you talk about like Barry and the lead there. Like, I mean, you do it the same way because John Jones, I mean, and and only you are going to know about it. I mean, it's great. But no, one of my favorite fighters, she had a great. I hope one day she follows that bitch home

Yeah, you know yes, yeah I'm not talking about JP. All right. All right. Hey It's already awkward. Yeah, I just look at you and my butt starts itching I mean, that's what you know that's that would have happened anyway to be very fair with you Fired up as always to bring you an honest take, a preview of Saturday's pay-per-view clash. It's International Fight Week, Hall of Fame, all that happens with that. But Chuck, maybe it goes without saying, but we expect straight up honesty,

maybe a little bit of rawness that we call real talk. That's right. Like men do. Is that too much to ask? No, I was trying to help you. Alright, thank you for that. You stuck with that tagline. I want to be clear, I think it's the worst thing about MK.

Like literally from the beginning, from the bunker days. I own a t-shirt with that phrase on the back. I mean, it sort of was fun once. Consistency is key. I can't get my levels in there. He did it all the way through the height of cancel culture. he was like, let me just keep doing this shtick here HR would call him be like please fire this oath and we'd be like, well, he's you know somewhat livable We will kick off our breakdown our analysis our preview to get you all kinds of fired up for Saturday's UFC 317 card from Las Vegas to poria versus do Bronx

by getting in on this Blanco because Of course pregame preview only happens because of our friends over there at Cuervo. So Chuck and I are going to shoot regularly. I'm not like Aaron Broncer, where that guy is. No, man, I drank the stuff. We're more like Velasquez. We are straight shooters. Where Luke on the other hand.

More like who? Velasquez, you know, maybe. No, no, it's not a word, Velasquez. Yeah, well, maybe I was talking about the former Bellator champion. All right, Juliana. Okay. All right, little Blanco for me, little Blanco for you. So Luke, you are drinking what you called a what?

It has a redneck cocktail. No, it's like a redneck margarita, but there's a better term for it. It's like, forget what it is, but basically a redneck margarita, but there's a better term for it. It's like Forget what it is, but basically a redneck margarita. Yeah, you go. And it's the ball. I'm sure now last episode drop the wire last pre The long the Blanco is is my favorite here of the querville the smoothest Luke without question We're gonna need another top. We're gonna have to get another bottle of this Blanco going So we're drinking the querville Traditionel Tequila Blanco. Let's get after it. Now, Luke, I hope you're not gonna put that cup

through college. I hope you're gonna make an honest effort. Because last time, Bronstetter did a great job sober, but then Luke was like, you know, I might as well join him. I mean, you know, sometimes I have health challenges on the show that I can't talk about. Okay, okay.

So I couldn't actually drink that. I had a chalupin that was- I love that he's getting on you for having a good influence, okay. So I couldn't actually drink that. I had a chalupin that was- Did you love his getting on you for having a good influence, you know, coming down? Anyways. Brian, I'm sorry to tell you, I have AIDS. Okay. I may not have been-

This won't hurt it. I may not have been a day one truther on the Toporia story, you know what I mean? And the size of Luke's extended genitalia whenever he fights. But he might be the star that UFC, that we as Journalists and people that provide for our family need so this one goes out to Lali enda himself, okay?

I'll repo yes, I'll repo. Yes. I'll repo your car is what I'll do Arriba a bajo al centro by dentro this one's for Cheyenne all right That is excellent. That is really good stuff. All I need is a little bit of ice. All right, and you know what? It's actually past noon this time. Usually we're doing this at 11, 12, you know?

It is tough to drink at 11 a.m. One hour matters. I got on the flight this morning. I had a 7 a.m. flight out of Fort Lauderdale. The lady behind me, they're like, what would you like to drink? And you know, normally what do people say at 7 a.m.? Orange juice?

Yes. Coffee, water? Maybe Blanco? She goes, can I get two Bloody Marys? I'm like, damn it! Florida. You're having a bad day, huh? We get a steak sandwich and a Bloody Mary

and a steak sandwich. Also brought to you by Cuervo, of course, now's a good time to enjoy the tequila, that invented tequila. Shout out to that Blanco. Smooths just puts me in the right mood. All right. We always take a above Earth view of these pay-per-view cards.

This is IFW. Luke Thomas, I need a grade on the depth of this card. We have two title fights at top. We have some very interesting filler fights, if you will, from Royvault Van to a few other great ones. What are you great in this card? Because I've heard I've heard polarized reactions from people on this one.

I, excuse me, I love this card. Yeah, me too. I love this card. I mean, I think if you're really, there are some things you can say about the card that are true. Does it have a transcendental big star in a huge stakes matchup? Well, not

exactly. Toporia seems like he could be the next one, but he's really not there yet. Despite all the great work he did at featherweight, I think he could become that with a win on Saturday. So you don't, you know, you don't have an established name like a McGregor or, you know, John Jones or whoever. You don't have that that's missing. you can nitpick about some other fights on the card, but I'm just going to tell you personally going up and down this card, almost every single one has something quite good about it. And some of them are fucking awesome. You want to say a minus.

That's what I'm going to give it a minus. Is it a real IFWA minus, or is it a, we've trained ourselves to expect to accept a smaller, so what I I'm gonna say is what I'm giving you that grade that's it I'm not telling anyone objectively. Oh if I'm doing a hardcore standard blah blah blah For me dude this fucking car like I like it. I like the late editions. I like the personalities I like a lot of things going on. How do you look at this card the same way? I think that you know Joshua van, you know jumping Joshua Vann, you know, jumping in in this position after having fought, what, June 7th,

three weeks later he jumps in on this card and this will be his fifth fight in the UFC since losing and within like an 11 month span. It's insane. It's a crazy pace and you get stories like that occasionally. Against the number one guy. Yeah, I know. He's going against the number one guy.

And he's the betting favorite right now. It's fearless. He's the betting favorite, he's fearless, He goes in there. I think that that's such a bang for your buck for that swing bout. Yeah. Like that's so good. You get Peyton Talbot. He has this cult following. He's kicking off things. That fight against Felipe Lima might fuck him up. Talbot a betting underdog. All the way up and down this card. Nico Price versus Jacoby Smith. Biggest betting favorite in UFC history. Jacoby Smith minus 3000 right now. I just don't get it.

But I'm saying I love that fight because it's an interesting fight. I love the Felipe Lima and Peyton Talbot fight. Even the Araujo, Tracy Cortez fight. Like every fight on there has some kind of redeeming. Well, maybe not the very first fight, but like basically. First fight is Jacoby Smith, Ryan? No, no, that's the third fight. It was The guy who filled in for the guy who had the ankle monitor versus you Ankle monitor fight what is going on? What happened here? You had a lot to say about that But it resounded I think it actually spoke to the the matchmakers in the end no no no it didn't alright So we like this card a lot without question. I mean, it could have been Islam, Elia, but I think it is very important

on the UFC to build toward that more on that to come on the fall out of this. But let's get right there at the top of the card. It is Elia Toporia making his second career appearance at one hundred fifty five pounds. Previously, he had handled and finished Jai Herbert in a one-off, but he gave up the 145 title. Islam went north to welterweight. There does seem, now that Islam is doing interviews again, like maybe he could be coming back against Jack Delamattalena in NYC in November. So we'll see more on that. But what we have this Saturday is

Toporia facing a 35-year-old former champion and Charles Oliveira, who is always going to be dangerous as shit. The leading UFC finisher, submission expert in the history of the sport. Two and two in his last four, but outside of that one sided title loss to Mahatchev, it was a spirited effort against Saryukhin in a split decision defeat.

So first and foremost, Chuck, is this fight just a flashy coronation for Toporia to become the 10th two division champion in UFC history and maybe just maybe launch him into not stardom but super stardom at a time when the UFC needs it? Or is this a potential trap fight in waiting? Because Del Bronx at 35 still got it, still dangerous anywhere he goes in the locker room. I mean if it's a coronation they put a minefield in front of it, because that's Charles Olivera.

The guy's 35 years old. I was having this discussion recently. It feels like he should be like 48. The dude has been in the, it feels like he's been in the UFC for so long, which he has. He's fought a lot of fights. I've not noticed,

and maybe you have more to say about this, I have not really noticed a diminishing return with him yet. So in my mind, he's still the same guy that he's been, probably the best version he's been. I think that him being slept on, he's always carried a bit of a chip on his shoulder. For these types of things, you can see it coming out already. He's getting angry and being overlooked after all he's done in the sport. There's two dope-box moments that let you know that it's game time. If he utters the phrase that the champion has a name, whether he's the champion or not, or if he shows up silver hair, Olivera, then you know he's coming for your girl too.

That's what I need to see who shows up at the weigh in. Yeah. So I mean, I feel like all the, would you say like, uh, is it a trap fight? Yes. I mean, if you were, if you look at this as a possible coronation, they're just putting to pour in so he can get the title and we can move along very very dangerous opponent for him to do that against because he thought he was getting Sarukian, but I can understand from a Promotional standpoint while you would do somebody like a lavera, but Luke

I want to specifically go back to you and say there were comments from to poria this week that I felt were telling he said Look normally it takes me two to three rounds to knock these guys out because I have to work so hard on slowly closing the distance to set up my combinations. He goes, I'm gonna get an Olivera who's gonna come directly for me. Then when Olivera sat down for the media, he said, I'm gonna come directly for him. Is it true that there's almost a tailor-made element

to Olivera even though he thrives in chaos, even though he's dangerous. If he moves his head as little as he did against Michael Chandler, he's gonna get KO'd. I mean, it's gonna happen here. At the same time, he took Michael Chandler down in every single round. So there's that.

I mean, I think that people are asking, like, what are we gonna get with Charles Olivera? I'm not buying that he's super diminished. I don't really think that's true In fact, I think if you look at some of the mistakes he made against Islam He's ironed out some of those things where he would leave his feet for example to kick Doesn't really do that is the same as much Um, but what I do think is true is that people have gotten better at fighting him

People understand how to diffuse the bomb a little bit. There's a lot of tape on him. There's a lot of tape on him. Okay, but is it that or is it that creating chaos against brawlers who prefer that, Gagey, Chandler, Poirier, you're giving them the bait that they want. They'll get into a reckless fight and it turns out Charles swims better in the deep than anybody else when she gets reckless. Poirier's not gonna fall for that. He might. He's not gonna get succ that. He might. I mean.

He's not gonna get succumbed by that pressure. Yes, I don't think he'll get pulled into a firefight where he's just trading, at least not for very long. But to answer the central question, to me, I don't think I've seen a ton of diminishing from Olavera. I've just seen the rest of the field kind of figure out. Like I think the Saryukyan fight to me,

which by the way, I had Olavera winning that one. And two deep choke attempts including at the buzzer. Yeah, but I mean that was that's why. I mean it was close. Something's wrong. It's close. Like it's not some robbery, but I did think he edged it out. But the point I'm trying to make is Saryukin was still able to have effective ground and pound on him from within the guard. And by itself, that's actually a little bit of a minor miracle. He avoided significant backtaking, like he showed that there are ways in which you can fight this guy. However, as we know, Oliver can fight at different ranges and different phases. To me, that height differential, that size differential, maybe for example now Toporia can handle the ground because he can follow the

blueprint to an extent of what Zorukhin did. At the same time though, can he follow the same blueprint in the clinch that Islam used? I have more doubts about that kind of a thing. So to me, it's a, you know, net-net, is it a tailor-made fight for Toporia? I think he has some advantages. I would not call it tailor-made though. The thing is though, he's like, he is poised. Like, I know what you're saying. Like, will he be drawn into some kind of chaotic moment? And my indication would be like, nah, probably not, not based on what we've seen. Like he's a very measured guy in terms of how he goes about it. But if you look, you mentioned the Jai Herbert fight and his last time he was at 155, he gets clocked like pretty early with a shin to the chin basically and he goes down and

he comes back up. And what's his first instinct? It was to wing. Like he started coming after him and eventually he got him. Like he got him I think in the second round. But he, you wonder what happens if he just gets clipped early. Does he then throw it all out and say like, let's do this, you know, or how's that going to work?

There's some elements to this that you're not sure with. Yeah, are you guys have fear at all about the idea of power carrying up? Because Topori has been saying, look, I was really diminishing my body to make that the weight. He's like, I could have made it again, but it's not healthy, I don't want to.

He's already talking about the benefits of moving up, but people have followed McGregor closely. His power was unreal at 45. Did it change significantly at 55? You know what I'm saying? Like, did he, he couldn't put you away with that one shot. Not his one shot. How do you, but some people doesn't like it in a way in boxing.

It doesn't matter the division because the speed, the precision, the natural power. Do you expect to pour you at this weight class to be a constant one punch knockout threat? Yeah. Yes, I think I do. I understand some of the arguments made about like, well, what about Connor? Connor benefited from a lot. He did have blinding power at 45. At 55, I don't know if he

had the same blinding power, but against like Eddie Alvarez, for example, what else do you notice? The timing, the precision? It's insane. It just elevates the power because it was so good. You know, to me, like you already saw me do to Jay Herbert little, he fucking cut him in half the way he hit him. But more to the point, even it's at 45, dude, if you can put max Holloway's lights out at 45, there, it's very difficult for me to believe that you won't translate up 10 pounds and a guy like Olivera who Olivera has much better bearing than he once did, but still gets hit with very big shots. Like even if the power isn't the same at 45, do I think it's gonna be enough

to give him some serious problems? Yeah, I do. Do you even put in the same conversation like Alex Pereira, like making that move from 185 to 205? Because I mean, if you look at that, for instance, it seemed like he was carrying more power when he went up It got more explosive. Yeah, so I don't know if you can compare them, but I'm like You'd their examples of guys who'd move up in weight and they look like they their power moves with them

He likes to boy with this the 70 because everyone's like oh, what about the next triple champ? That's a big question Yeah, I'd have questions about his power. He said he expects to fight that one After the rehydration. So I don't know. He's a big dude. Yeah, no, I understand that. But I'm saying like if he actually went and fought real welterweights, I don't I would have real questions about his power there. Chuck, the history of this segment pregame preview with all that

mail talk and all that stuff like that, it's developed a lot of famous moments, usually the ones that you'd like to forget. Like what now, bitch? Or Luke throwing up in the sink after the episode. But the greatest... Fuck you both. The greatest... He held out though. That was impressive enough.

The most salient thought that ever came out of this show's history was when you had the guts ahead of Adesuena versus Poetan to be like, maybe it was Poetan's story the whole long. I mean, I love when he says that shit. So I gotta ask you... He says it in the mirror five times that shit. So I gotta ask you. He says it in the mirror five times every day. By God you're worth it.

I'm already booking the future of not just Ilya winning this fight by knockout because I think that's gonna happen but also because I think that would be great for the sport and the promotion and then calling out Islam and whether they did that fight soon or they built toward it for multi-years like I see a path for Toporia to become

the biggest fighter in this entire sport. What are we not saying about the Olvera story? Because at 35, we never, you know, look, we always thought he was dangerous. We respect him as a fighter. I never thought he'd be champion. So when he went on the run, he went on and beat the names that he did

and just swam in the chaos that he created, it was remarkable. But to have two reigns and to go through guy like to pour you with this momentum here a point Well, I mean we're talking like up not maybe top tier but upper tier guy for sure even a You're bringing up a great point. Is there even an equivalent like anybody you can even think of that has done that That's some Randy Couture type shit I mean, I guess like you could come like Michael Bisping would almost be closer I'm just for breaking through at the end, but he's already been there at Charles Oliver But if you look at the the scope of his career missing weight all those times early on

Kind of taking some bad losses along the way. They did you dirty on the yellow. Oh, here we go again No, I just want you to know okay silently. No very vocal very vocally Istanbul here. No, they but I think that that's a great discussion because where does that leave him? I was talking about this recently. We're so close to, you've followed the sport since he's been in the league,

you've probably followed the sport since he's been in the league around that time. It's like he's been through so much. He started from a place where it wasn't like, we never saw a star coming, he emerged as a star. So we kind of see him still as Charles Oliver, the guy as a star. So we kinda see him still as Charles Olivera, the guy as a whole. But some people.

First team off of Vela, correct? Yeah, the Bronx, the Bronx. No, his name is New Bronx from the, but you wonder if the broader, where I have a son who's 14, and him and his buddies know Charles Olivera. That's a weird gauge, but when they talk about fighters, there's only a few of them that they'll collectively talk.

That's one of them. Maybe he's bigger than I understand to the broader audience. I don't really know, but I feel like us, the guys who dialed in, it's kind of remarkable in its own way, but we never see him as a star. But something like this. When he says broader audience, you think he's talking about chicks?

Chicks, kids, people don't watch the sport much. He makes a good point. This guy's in this fight over Saryurkian because of that fact. Because he moves product. People love him. He gets one of the biggest pops, Charles Oliveira. Like it's bizarre though, right? Like I feel like if he did this... Not only is nobody really plotting a path for victory in this fight, I don't think anyone's talking about what that would do to add on to his legend.

I've thought about it a little bit. I mean, someone asked me a question if you had to have... It's gonna sound like a weird compliment, but just follow me for a moment someone was asking me if you had to have a a tournament of all lightweights in their prime who would be in the final four Wow the answer is Clearly Habib Islam and BJ Penn, but that fourth slot is actually a little hard to tell It's really not clear that you could put a greater in there potentially you could put you know a lot of that one put McGregor in there potentially. You could put a lot of different names. For that one fight, McGregor had it lightweight?

Well, I'm just saying, like, in his prime, the one win, the one win. In his prime, at his peak, could you see a world where he could have been in there? Sure. But to me, it's like, Olivares kind of hanging on the outside to lose the title as you indicated, come back, and then to beat the next big superstar, presumed next big superstar.

I mean, it would put him clearly in that kind of space. It would make it would solidify him as like, you know, one of these enduring champions with an enduring lightweight legacy against all. And again, none of those guys, Penn had ups and downs kind of, but it was like a different higher weight classes. It was actually when he dialed in,

everything kind of came together, but he had all this ability and he had beaten. He was a 170 champ before he's a 155 champ Olivera had all these fuckups at 45 and then steps up to 55 and then discovers himself his path to being in that place Would be the most unusual of all of them I ask you guys or not as unusual as Julianne opinion, but I get what you're saying for the lightweights. Yes the sides If like USC kind of has to want to pour you here, right? Because you do have a potential.

Badly, yeah. It's like, because we're talking about Oliver, and we're talking about like, well, that would be really interesting for those guys, you know, but that's so small compared to what he represents especially in terms of a broadcast, you know, the whole broadcast deal thing's being worked out. They need a star, right?

They need these guys to be, they need some guys who going to be like that. Quickly in this topic, McGregor not walking through that door. John Jones retired. One of the Shaw Malley has lost two twice in a row to the same guy. I know that there's potential for someone like DDP to continue to climb, but Adesanya going down like all the people that we relied upon. This is the star we need in this exact moment.

That's got to be a high, high ranking narrative heading into this card. What do you think about that? And he's English speaking too. Yeah. I mean. And Spanish. And Paul's shots goes out there. But no, but I'm talking about the North American market, which obviously has some

Spanish speaking audience, but I mean somebody who, he's not American, but he can at least, you know, Jose Aldo was to a degree held back in his career by his lack of language proficiency to a degree Anderson Silva was, but he picked up English late and I do think that made a difference towards the end. It does. I'm not one of these guys who's like, they got to speak English. No. But if they do, some benefits are conferred. But there's simply no denying, dude, the UFC absolutely wants to support you.

It's a crude gauge, you know, but whenever you see Toporia is actually speaking in public or he's doing an interview, there's something that happens, right? You're like, oh, what's he saying? What is that? That's always a weird thing like there are tons of guys who are you know, very good fighters They'll do interviews. You don't even pay any attention. But like somehow he compels it. It might even be the scarcity He doesn't do a lot of media. Well in the states in the states in spain. He has a press conference They say that's for Promotion that he now runs right Wow or whatever I'm sorry. He gave his own presser at the damn PI recently that uh

Part like to Poria With anything everything he does where he remember he changed that he was on his UFC I'm sorry it is on his Instagram by we. Now taking a picture with the two belts. He always assumes that I'm going to act like a superstar. I'm gonna name myself the legend. That's huge. Right, I'm gonna have- He predicts his every step.

Oh yeah, yeah. I mean that's- Mystic Mac, he sees that. Does the rank and file have their own press day? I have my own press day. Right. You know what I mean? Like he leans in- Understated though, and know know how he talks but it's in his actions that feed this

Me this is what I mean like he's got all of the making he has to cross the finish line Yeah, but if you're the UFC you're looking at this and you're thinking not only does he believe it? He's acting like it. We just have to get him over that hump. It's a big hump But I can see why they would all of era meets both Criteria he's legitimately famous and dangerous and As we mentioned it might be the perfect type of setup for topory to do exactly what he does and look as great as possible But it didn't have to be Olivera You could argue it should have been our man Sarukin who did defeat by split decision

Charles Olivera when they met but then had a pull out of his title opportunity against Islam I have at the last minute. Didn't seem to make Dana White very happy with that. So Sarukian's going to be the backup for this main event, but there's been some back and forth. In fact, so much so that it's time to welcome in a little bit of Shots Fired. Shots Fired, of course course presented by Cuervo. And now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Yeah. I'm talking about Cuervo. Here is Armand Sarukian and the response. Sorry. First we'll see the response, I believe from Toporia. Let's get into this

here. The backup fighter for this one is going to be Artem Sarukyan, right? Or Arman. That's a bad decision for him. I don't know why he accepted because you can't come here as a backup fighter. I don't know how long did he train for this fight, but if something happens to anyone, even to me, I think that there is no possibility that something could happen with me. But who knows? No one knows what's going to happen tomorrow. Even with Charles, he would struggle a lot.

And with me, there's like, he has no chances. No chances. Like first round, first minutes of the fight, what he's going to do, go, go for the take downs. It's it's okay. That, so that was the video fucking confidence. I know that's what I mean. It's stiffer.

Like here's the more ruthless in Spanish, by the way, when they show the train, it's as cold as that is it's much worse. Let's see if they start. You can respond on the quote tweet is you better pray. Nothing happens to Charles because I'm the worst possible matchup for you in this division. There's a reason you're fighting the guy already beat and not me for that belt. He's not wrong.

What came first? The chicken or the egg there? Was it that tweet that set up those comments from Toporia? We have no, no, no. I think the Saryukian comments came after. Okay. Well, that was Shots Fire this week brought to you by Cuervo. I was still surprised to see Toporia as a pretty damn big

Favorite in fact long island luke our fourth member of our team today our producer director and so long as soon to be single Luke could you tell us to draft King's odds currently on this main event we got minus 455 ilia plus 350 charles okay that seems exactly crazy though. What would it have been though if it was Sarukian against the warrior? In the way 100s or 200s at most. 100%, it's in the 100s. Because he is that, like probably.

What would it be? Yeah, it's still favor Ilya, but it would be close. Minus 150 plus. Yeah, but do you know what's great? Is that people are like, well the UFC's just feeding him a guy they think he can beat. They're already setting the table for the most dangerous guy.

He's not afraid of him. Like, they're already setting it up. It's one of those things, like, if he does get through Charles, now you're gonna find out, right, I feel like that that's fun. To me, it's like, when we get to these, because everyone's accused Islam of ducking and all this kind of shit.

To me, I'm just gonna, I wanna say it for the purpose of the show show everyone's got a slightly different slightly different definition of ducking but to me if if you're Canelo and you skip out on David Benavides to go fight bival I will I will let that go that to me that's not ducking because yeah you're not fighting the guy you're supposed to be fighting but you're fighting a fucking beast sure so I just want to put it out here for people being like well, oh, this guy, this guy, this guy. No, if Islam is going up a fucking weight class to fight the champion, I'm going to

let it slide. I'm with you. I'm with you ultimately on that. But you're right. If Chaporia does do this, if a first title defense comes against us, you can do that central billing. That's a sexy ass fight. That's a dangerous fight.

The greatest thing a champion can do, or a guy in his position, is to just treat all, everybody, like they're the ones trying to catch you already, right? And you just treat them all the same, with equal disregard. I think when they do that, there's, I know, I love that though. There's something that's just like, you guys are all coming for me, I'll fight all of you. I love that, you know? I do, I do too. But here's the deal. Toporia likes to call a shot. He likes to, he's kind of following a Connor playbook, maybe not as directly, shamelessly

as Ian Gary does sometimes, which is more for him like tribute to Connor, but like he's followed from the chest tat to the ways that he moves. He's claiming he's, I believe he's going to call out Islam if he wins, but he's claiming that he would prefer, we played the sound on the last episode, he would prefer Patty next, but he prefer Patty next, but he needs Patty to go through Justin Gaethje first, and his goal would be to go from Patty, and then directly to Welterweight

if Islam wins the championship, and make that fight. Also, Gaethje doesn't want that fight. Do you think that if Toporia wins, the UFC would give him that Patty fight, knowing that's the perfect time to get the most out of Patty's commercial value. I've been saying they should do this anyway because I mean this makes more sense but like Patty has put together the resume. I used to scoff at this. I remember you were the one who was like if they put these guys together, yeah, we're gonna have to have like some, you know, we'll have to put a body chock.

This was several years ago. I know, I know, I know. And at the time it was very true. He has actually held his own and gotten through the guys he needs to. So I'm like at this point, I'm like, man, make that fight. First of all, I think that Paddy Pimlet would bring, like you always kind of need a foil who's going to bring out something more from that guy that's still somewhat mysterious. I feel like that happens, you know. That's pro wrestling booking.

And Suryukin's got to wait and fight somebody else. Like it's kind of weird. They don't seem like they're in a hurry to put them in there. Look, if somebody should get special booking, I agree it should be somebody like Tokori. If he does this. Suryukin should be next. But does he do it? Yes. Let's get as we prepare our predictions here. Can we get into this a little bit more? Sure. Can we get a little deeper into the Cuervo here?

This one would be called the Cristalino, the Cuervo tradition now. Cristalino. Tradition now. I think that translates directly in Spanish. Half of these shows is always a blur. Large balled. But this is this is great. Chuck, I would love to start with you as the visitor. You know, but this is your home away from home in a lot of ways.

He doesn't know how to pour a shot. It blows my mind. I mean, at least at least I drink them and they show right so uh dude you're a bitch No one thinks you're cool for drinking. I will take some of that. I mean How's your mouth? You're going over there. Oh, I'm sorry. I like to drink refined cocktails you pussy remember last episode He took like like a little nibble. He was like yeah, my stomach hurts, and we're done with that Well, I was shitting blood is that all right? wanted an entertainment partner luckily guys wanted to know luckily brahman I always miss like the the ones when you're shitting blood and things like that, so I will I am

How can you I did see I don't see you miss that it's every other week I did see him puking the sink Chuck let's start with you. How does this main event end on Saturday? What are we looking at here? I? Think that I think that Toporia catches him early and it's gonna be a quick fight. That's the way I see this happening. I just think that he's the type of guy who you put the spotlight on him in the big moment.

I think that he shines. I think he goes in there, he catches him, like basically he thinks that Charles is gonna come at him. He knows exactly what's gonna happen. He catches him. It's somewhere in the first round knockout. Shine on you crazy diamond. That's what I think. Shine on you crazy diamond.

You know what it makes me want to do? It makes me want to get serious for a second and go. Ah, and you're watching over you. Oh. No. Silent in the city, too. Push now baby, don't you cry. We've been singing this.

Can you believe these two fucking bozos? Hey, we're gonna have a friendship moment here. Wanna lecture other people about masculinity is unbelievable, right? Queens, right. Queens, right. 89, baby. Queens, right. 89.

Luke, you wanna do a Rebo Bahá'u'lláh? Is that the band that takes turns blowing each other on stage after their shows? Caio, Barajo, after dinner, corporate. Come on, let's go, let's go, baby. I like how you went from Caio Bahaglio to Laverne and Shirley. That was... Hey, why don't you pour more down the floor, you fucking... That's why this carpet is sticky.

I will say that. We haven't talked about one thing... I'll tell you what, the uh... Woo! Yeah, Chris Alino? Chris Alino gave me a little Rick Flair, if you know what I mean. You might have to shit my pants now, you know. If we can, there is something you didn't bring up that I actually would like to have a bit of a discussion,

because I looked into this, and I don't know what the answer is but I'd be curious to get your thoughts. You too, Long Island Luke here in just a second. Someone has brought up, I've seen it, a lot of people have brought it up on social media that hey, if Ilya wins, particularly by stoppage, is that the best three-fight win streak? Okay.

Corey, he said that to Mike Bone. He's not the only one. Yeah, contemplated this. So I've looked at all the greats records. It might be. OK, three-fine stretch. Volk was the champion and pound-for-pound top, what was he? Number one? One or two.

And has never lost at that weight. No, he had lost to Mahatchev. He was coming off that weight. No, at that weight. So I'm saying I think his pound-for-pound spot slipped a little bit. He's still like top three. Holloway was top 10 at that point. And now you got Olivera, who still is dangerous as shit.

What do we want to do? We've long compared the calendar years, but any three fights in succession we're talking about. Yes. So I looked at Fador's record. Fador's got a bunch of good twos and then like some scrub. Yeah. Demetrius, I don't think has anyone on enough on the level. It just wasn't enough depth. St. Pierre had a couple of good twos, but not so much threes.

But the reason why this John Jones is the closest to me because John Jones has four in a row. What about Anderson? I've just I know that he fought a lot. I didn't see anything that again, there's he has a couple of others. You can kind of remember all the fights and like, you know, John Jones is interesting because he has, I think, Rampage and Evans and Machida. Like another one is like four in a row where they were all former calendar year that 11 or 13 2011 when he won all four when all four he won four in a year and he beat all former champions

the point I wanted to make was Toporia is now going up in weight. I Can't find anybody who polished off to former champions then went up a weight and then also polished off a former. You can literally, it sounds like hyperbole, it genuinely might be the best three-part stretch. And guys like, you think about BJ Penn and UFC 94 when he went up and fought GSP and he might have been able to, I don't remember exactly where he was at, but he'd just taken out, was that right before?

Anyway, he was winning his fights, he went up and fought JSP, but then he gets handled there, right? But that would have been the moment, you might have had a competition there, but he didn't get it done. Poirier stopping Justin Gaethje, then Eddie Alvarez, and then beating Max Holloway

for the interim title at UFC 236. I mean, that's close, but that's not as good. Okay, or Poirier outlasting Hooker, and then stopping Connor twice? Here we go. Not as good, but an honorable mention. What mean that's close but that's not as good. Okay or or poor outlasting hooker and then also not having Connor twice. Here we go. Not as good but an honorable mention. What about Connors run? You got Chad Mendes, Jose Aldo, Eddie Alvarez. It's a pretty good move. No no no that's not in succession dude. No the Diaz ones in between that's the issue. Yeah yeah. That's the issue yeah. I mean yes if it was those three then we would beat those three. I mean look when you get when Max Holloway has back to back stoppages of

Jose Aldo I'm sure we can bookend either other win Habib is last three was against two right? He never had yeah, but again up and wait sure up and wait That's the that's your difference for me is the up and wait um Toporia second round stoppage I'm thinking fourth actually yeah, I think this one might go a little bit The over under is that two and a half. I think that right. I'm sorry. I think under under that dude under Yeah, no, I'll take the over. I think that I think to pour you does finish him off, but Charles is crafty and he doesn't move his head enough Luke. You know that he doesn't but he has Success for a reason. All right, let's get into this co main event

The flyweight title will be at stake in what a run Alexandre Pantoja has put together. Three title defenses. And even though he went life and death with Brandon Moreno to win the title in that blood and guts war with the incredible deep father comments afterwards, he has been efficient since then, getting better, climbing the pound for pound ranks, getting in the best shape of his life,

and seeming as, in his mid-30s, smart and dangerous as we've ever seen him in his entire career. He is entering against a kai car France. And remember, he told you his record against the top 10 entering this calendar year was nine and oh combined. So they need another opponent. Kai Kara though has lost two of his last three despite his most recent fight, which was a first round stoppage of Steve ursak. What are we looking at here? Luke Thomas,

in terms of the biggest thing to look for, the biggest storyline, the biggest element when Alexandre Pantoja welcomes Kai Carr of France? Man, first of all, you didn't even mention the fact that, in addition to the losses, he had a real bad concussion. Yeah. That sat him out for a fairly long period of time. In fact, he missed, this should have happened

maybe a little bit sooner than it did. I think Kai Carr of France, I like this fight. I think you know, if you're the champion, you have to defend against the deserving guys. He's a deserving guy. But more than that, he has an interesting challenge. There's a ton of tape on Pantoja at this point, which I've you know, you got a guy who trains at CKB. They're gonna have him probably well prepared But dude fucking Pantoja has just absolutely blown past every limit any one of us has I know to put on him He's like secretly entering all-time great British pan or not British Brazilian Pantheon MMA like champion level Dude first of all shouts to venom I haven't loved all of the custom fight shorts, but they made custom fight shorts for him Number one, he deserves it number two. They're fucking great. I didn't see him. You didn't see him

No, so they took basically Japanese traditional tattoo styling and made it basically shorts It's fucking awesome number one number two I keep thinking this dude is shop-worn and I keep waiting for him to fall off and just collapse like a jalopy And I keep waiting for him to fall off and just collapse like a jalopy and so you know in some middle of the road nowhere He got better. He got he got better He can strike he does he's not I mean not afraid of danger even a little bit his game from the back is actually Super advanced that cosoto hook used to pull Kyocic or often and take the back and finish like second round like like dude He's at the point now where is he close to what DJ did? No, but that we even have to ask that

is fucking remarkable. Do you see similarities? Like it's crazy what you're saying. It almost parallels the guy that people wanna pair him with which is Marab, right? Because Marab lost early. But then Marab started to like just build the machine thing.

And if you watch him fight his pace, the pace he starts to put on, and it's not just that, it's the level changing, it's like he comes up here and then he's on your legs, he's on your hips, he's trying to put you down, or he does the thing you're mentioning with the back, where you get your back. He's on little parting where it's like that little exhale. He's in there tucking one into your ribs,

or he's coming, you know what I mean? Like he's just always, always bringing it. He's the definition of that term they use in boxing or that phrase that that when you become champion, you become 30% better automatically. He's like sort of carrying that out. He's got something deeper going on. He does. He's rabid. It's like he advanced a level within himself.

I don't know what it is. You mentioned the dad thing, but I feel like that something came off of his chest and now he's like, it's realizing, like we always talk about who realizing their potential. This is a guy who's realized his potential in real time. Dude, I'd love it and maybe I'm going too far with this, but if they let Mr. Wideman come to every Pantoja fight, so after he wins he could be like,

Alexandria Pantoja would still be my son. You know, you're kinda. All right, so it is interesting this week, you mentioned Marab, that Pantoja. I'm not an easy laugh. I'm not an easy lad. I think it's your no-sell that makes me laugh. Patocha did say this week he is not... Can you imagine tying your career to this oath?

He is not looking to move up and fight Marab. He does not want to do the two division champion thing, which is kind of refreshing to hear because everybody seems to want to do it instantly. But now people want it though. He mentioned the Josh Van Royval winner. Obviously, we got Manel Kopsil out there. There's a few fights you can make. These two though. Bring back Mojave.

Bring back Mojave, bring back Asgarov, please. Asgarov too, yeah, 100%. Chuck, here's the deal though. These two did fight way back in the day in the Ultimate Fighter. Kai Kar-France lost a decision through two rounds. But when you package that with the reality that Kai Kar-France has been stopped by both elite Brandons when he's moved up to

that level, Moreno and Royval, and he has two losses to Moreno, does this tell you the outcome without telling you or not? Kind of, because I feel like with Kaikara France, what's his, don't blink, is that his thing? All I know about him is just this. Yeah right, I mean and he has, we saw him the Garbrandt fight, I remember very specifically, he looked like a maestro on the feet, you know, like he can do this stuff But I just don't think having a game where you're like, I'm gonna try to melt you at some point in this fight is Is going to get it done. You know, what do we got now? It's not shocking it's like in the mid teens

Justin It's only gonna mid teens Justin Told you he was a varsity star and you were like no you were Like dude, I went to public high school in America. There's no way you played Possible to so Asakura was that the guy the last guy like Asakuraakura, like he came in there, he was all kinds, feeding him all kinds of fancy knees, flying knees, knees all over. It just like you're, you're coming in there with like an aesthetic or you're coming in there with this kind of idea and he goes right through it.

That's what I see. Like he's a buzzsaw. But so Long Island, look, you are an attentive better. I feel like Pantoja by stoppage is the bet that everybody's gonna end up on if you're looking for a little bit of value. Are we counting out KKF too easily, too flippantly here? I think you're counting out KKF. I don't know if he's gonna win.

I do see this one going a little long. I took the over one and a half in a parlay, but honestly, prediction wise, KKF round four. Wow. Wow. That's a bold prediction right there. On the one hand, I don't think that that's crazy because we keep remarking how great Pantoja does, and he does.

When will it end? Well, he's fucking reckless. In any other division, if you fight that way, for the most part, you get wrecked. He's less reckless each title defense though. That's true. I mentioned the flying knee. The first flying knee was this close.

It was this close to being an Asker and Mouse foot all situation I can imagine him and I'm not in any way trying to undermine like the the spirit of what long on Lucas saying But I could imagine a world where in fact KKF does stop him They do a rematch and Pantoja gets it right back but like just the point I'm trying to make is you fight in a reckless manner in that way or just even reckless per se just Aggressively fucking feral in the way that he is You're running a risk there against a guys that you so more otherwise might be it's like I feel like mom got accused of That a little bit too like it was like he was coming in that he would get hit you know his defense

I know it's true. It's so much better. You know I did I think Pantoja is gonna try to make a statement on the feet, too I think he's gonna try to stop him punching here. I'll write the Moreno stopped kick a off on the feet Yep I think that's gonna try to stop him punching here. I like- Brandon Moreno stopped KKF on the feet. Yep, I think that's what happens here. And I respect KKF and I've been wanting him to finally get his opportunity because I felt he has been title material

from the beginning coming out of CKB. But he has had a certain amount of hiccups that tell you, is his record who he says he is, Bill Parcells, or is K, would you, you wouldn't, would, yes or no, would you be shocked if he walked out with the title? Not shocked. Not shocked. It takes a lot to shock you. No, I mean, he just, he does have, would you be shocked if he walked out with the title? Not shocked. Not shocked.

It takes a lot to shock you. No, I mean he just, he does have, I think, you know, he had the Garbrand, and who else, he smoked the Ursegg, right, wasn't that one of them? Like he's beat a couple guys, and he's definitely got that kind of power. Like, so if it's a reckless thing, it could happen, but I'd be slightly surprised, you know,

cause I think that, it's like when I used to talk to Ben Askren when he Was saying he's like if I fight that guy 99 times out of 100. I'm beating him He caught me on the one as it all Masvidal. He's like I'm beating him 99 times I'm 100 he just happened to land the one thing boom. I was gone. Yeah, that's not crazy When we talked about this one Sarah beat GSP. I mean yeah can happen you know But hey shout out to Ben Askren Is that true about his lung, you know. But... Hey, shout out to Ben Asker, by the way. Yeah, shout out to Ben Asker. Is that true about his lung transplant? You know, man, I haven't been in complete touch with him,

but trying to stay in touch with him, and he's waiting for a lung transplant. That's what we know. Yeah, it's a kind of grim situation, so prayer is up for that guy, man. Dude, life is unpredictable. That is rough. Prayer to his family, for sure.

Staying in this flyweight division though, damn do I love this fight. Joshua Vann on three weeks notice at age 23, or is he 24? I mean, either way, it's so damn early. He's had eight UFC fights in less than two years. You got a new phone cover. And this is five within 11 months. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a new phone.

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Hey Joe's on the debut, are you experienced? I don't know about his albums. I know the songs. The second Axis Boldest Love is his Dylan album. He was very much in... alright, enough of that. It's not better than Cannibal Corpse's Encased in Concrete. I came right. It's like Cannibal Cor. I mean, that's like cannibal corpse. Yeah, that's fantastic there. I come blood.

Joshua Van, which they play at every show. I love it. The Burmese slugger fresh off of the stoppage three weeks ago of flyweight Bruno Silva, not the blind middleweight because of Weidman. We are looking like a future title contender, but he's ranked number 12 and on three weeks notice he's going to fight yet again against number one raw dog Brandon Royvault, the raw dog friend of the program. I also hate Colorado friend. What? I also hate condoms. Yeah. Okay. You're not going to

nickname yourself based on it though, but that's all right. The raw dog has said this week, someone asked me if I fought, what would my nickname be? And it's I hate condoms. Well, very similar than your kindred spirit. Luke Thomas the raw dog has got AIDS. Waiting to get the Menell Cop fight. Royval pulled out. Now Menell Cop broke his foot. So that's what opened the door for Van. But this week raw dog very emotional basically said look I'm the most underestimate or what what did he say? What did he say? Not not overrated. I'm the most What would he say? What did he say? Not overrated. I'm the most overlooked fighter in the UFC. That the respect factor. He says he's the underdog in every single big fight, including the Tyro fight. He basically can't remember the last time he was a betting favorite.

And against this 23 year old kid who looks great, bounced back from the first round knockout loss to Charles Johnson, is for no sense coming off of a big stoppage. But there's levels to this game. And Brandon Royville last time I checked has only lost in the UFC to Pantoja and Moreno. And he events the Moreno lost by split decision. I think he learned from the title loss to Pantoja. I think he's coming in here at plus money. I agree with him. It's fricking ridiculous, Luke. Is it just that van is that great and Vegas is all in? What are we looking at here? I mean, this is a weird one because I like Van a lot. I respect him a lot. But I, it's not- He can afford to take the risk. He can afford to take the risk. Yes and no.

Yes and no. I know what you're saying. But on the one hand, it's not fatal if you lose it. Yeah. And then he's in any way, dude, Randy Reuel is the fucking number one contender. Josh Van is not even supposed to be in this fight. He's not even supposed to be on this card. He's supposed to be doing something else at the apex. I mean, this is, I'm not as an insult, I'm just saying developmentally, that's kind of where he's at.

But the Fates are pushing him in this direction. I love the fact that he's getting a lot of experience. I don't love the fact that he's not taking time to really work on his game. Now a lot of fighters would be like, oh, I would love to do what he's doing in part because you just get paychecks more often if you just compete like that. And for the most part, he fucking wins. And you're a darling, at least for this, like this video. Exactly. I love his game. I love his attitude. I love his work rate. I love his, and he has, by the way, shown some improvement and just in the short amount of time he's been here.

But I wouldn't have recommended this in a perfect world that he take this fight even if he does win it. But that's the problem to me right? It's like even if you beat Roybal for whatever reason now you might be the number one contender. Let me fucking assure you you're definitely not ready to be that guy I remember it reminds me of when Anthony Joshua and boxing stumbled into a title shot that he really wasn't ready for but the there was A weak champion and Charles Martin has and like the opportunity afforded itself And he just took it won by knockout and we're off that sometimes in life you get those opportunities I'm not really here to debate whether van should have took it or that whether you know, I think it's exciting I think it's exciting. I think it's exciting that he got this opportunity. I mean, you gotta also give the hat tip to Roybal because, like, he's accepting the same thing. He's accepting an opponent switch, right,

like, to come in there. He's desperate to get a title shot, though. So I don't think, I mean, there's two ways to play the title shot. One is to be like, oh, I'm sitting on the title shot, I'm not gonna take a fight. And the other one... He's not guaranteed that shit, though.

Exactly, because they already lost twice. I know. So he is in a position, like, you know what, I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I can to make them happy so that I can get back to the top This would be the best time to fight a Josh van when even though he's been on fire Three weeks turn around he fights all the damn time He's always in camp and the experience level look Bruno

So was a good win and the with the manner in which he did was great No one on that resume close to Brandon Royval,. So at 32, your fellow Colorodian. Yeah, sure. That's how we pronounce it too. What would you say to those oddsmakers? I know that the line- I love going to Colorado. The line has moved a little bit.

You do like that state. But dude, this is a three round fight, correct? Not a five round fight? This is a three round fight, right? Yeah. Okay, you would wonder if a five round could benefit Royvall, but as you look at this matchup, what are you thinking? Because I'm thinking raw dogs about to show people what's up.

Well, I mean, that's a big, I think that that's more likely. Like we were just talking about, this is a guy who's accelerated, you know, and Joshua Vann accelerated because he lost last July and we were like, well, he's still very raw, he's 22, he's going to have to learn some stuff. And he has won four in a row and I was fighting on three weeks notice or three weeks after fighting. This is a lot. If he goes in there it would be hard to understate how big of a deal that would be for him to just skyrocket into that

shot. Now would he be ready? Probably not but I'm just saying that would be a ridiculous trajectory from losing last July to being at the end of June this year as a title contender. But I'm sort of with you, man. I feel like there are these guys, and we never see, the thing we're talking about with Josh Vande, we almost never see because there is that guy standing his way

who's like shaved the wrong way, he's been mistreated, he feels, carries the chip on his shoulder, and he is willing to die in this situation. And that's kind of the way I see that Roy, I mean you're seeing a Roy vol by submission. I can see it in your eyes. You're seeing that I picked van but That's a momentum pick, you know, you're like saying well, he's got all those momenis companies young But it doesn't matter if you really look at the way the UFC plays out

Usually that guy doesn't win this fight, you know You don't get that sort of usually the short notice turnaround guy doesn't win the fight either and this is extreme short notice turnaround Luke where do you weigh in on this you love Van but I mean you've been you even have been under looking and under rating Royval at times would you please give the man the bouquet and predict him to win here well I don't know what's a fucking thing to be honest with you I mean the reality is what are the odds what are the odds on this one so So it's a pick-em right now. Minus 105 Royvall minus 115. That's kind of where I'm at. It was plus 100 yesterday.

I'm a bit of a coin flip guy here. I mean Royvall I think is obviously... That's what's fun though. It's obviously somewhat striker-grappler to a degree. But Royvall has been in there slugging it out with guys better than Josh Vann. Way more experience, yeah. His distance management, Royvall, is totally on the elite level. I mean, I don't know if Vann. Way more experience. His distance management, Royvault, is totally on the elite level. I mean, I don't know if Vann's gonna have... It's a little strong. Okay, we'll see. I think he is, I think he is at worst a competent striker and I think more than that I think he's a good one. He moves a lot. Elite is a little much for me. Well, okay, I mean,

he's got elite skills for this division. Very good. What I think he's elite is he's got instant jujitsu, right? These guys who can find something like that. They've got a good clamp. They could be underneath. They can invert. They can find the back instantly. He's got that. And Josh van definitely has never fought a guy like that.

To me, it's like Royval should win. I just don't know if he will. I don't know if he should win. I'll never get herpes. Yeah, yeah. Never get AIDS. Okay. Wow. I mean, I had...

He cheered that one. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. He's like, I just don't believe in AIDS. It's not real. Also on this main card, kind of a crossroads-ish lightweight tilt, but these guys are a lot closer in age, even if they're not that close in momentum, when 36-year-old Benil Diraouj,

fresh off of consecutive knockout losses in elite matchups, goes against a 35 year old Hennado Moikano who had his incredible upset fueled run to become the money man, spoiled when he got the last second title shot against Islam Mahachev and was handled in very quick fashion, looking to come back from that. The odds are very close in this one, although you have had Moikano as the favorite,. I think that makes sense. Is this a serious situation where you think Benny can prove that he's still around? He still matters here because he seems like a sneaky

underdog who had plus money. And if I think you'd have to look at this, I think that they are both 36 and born 15 days apart. Like they've been on the earth exact same amount of time, which is crazy because I always look at Darien, maybe it's the gray in his hair and stuff like that. But I always think that he's like 40 and you know. But I do think, again, this is an unsung guy. A guy who's had a crazy career.

Like a very, very successful career. At one point he won like a bunch of fights in a row, I don't even know how many it was. But I feel like he still has that one last charge in him where he's like, I wanna be able to do this. I don't feel like he still has that one last charge in him where he's like, I wanna be able to do this. I don't feel like he got there. I mean, put that brain bleed scare behind him pretty quick. Yeah.

But- But should we learn something from the last two stoppage losses? I mean, they were big fighters. It's not like he's going against, it's not like he's losing the middle of the pack. And I feel like this is his step down moment. If he can't get by Moikano,

and I'm not saying, I'm not trying to diminish Moikano because Moikano's had a big run to until he ran into I know over his head right I know he was fighting over said he was I remember it's a good fight Dariush had a brain bleed scare I don't believe I'm making that up long out Luke that's a correct scare that I don't believe that's right I think you might be thinking of Vicente Lucas oh maybe that's why I was like when you said I just do that I was looking at you said it and I was like do I do that? Did I not do my homework? All right, it's it's probably the tequila

Apology am I I thought it was there one more margarita for you And look this up before I get sued you miss diagnosing people all right Luke when you look at this matchup is it as simple to say At the ground game could cancel each other out Doryusha is better everywhere Doryusha is better everywhere now. He is longer in the tooth in the sense of having I think more miles on him Yeah, I think that's uh it was true that Moikano took some abuse at 45 before he real quick real quick His coach said he took a long absence due to repeated head trauma But that's not the same thing as having a brain bleed okay, but I think that's probably alright

I I apologize if I confuse the Lukey diagnosis there, but there was question for a while for sure okay fair enough Yeah, anyway, Darius is better everywhere. He had better. He remember before he got an MMA he was a a high high level black belt in professional jiu jitsu. And to me is, you know, has we talk about guys who fight recklessly, he's got a little of that Pantoja and when it comes time to strike, he was the only guys that dude, Saryukian could not get gamerat off of him when they were hit. Dariush had no fucking problem with it. Yeah, Dariush handled him. He's a physical assessment, Dariush. Dariush is better everywhere. The question is what kind of physical state is he in.

I agree with that. Also, Moeckano's shoulder is still a little wonky. I think a guy like Moeckano who can get hot and suddenly he's a title contender and in this case he fought for the title, I always look to see what happens next if they get humbled in the loss. That's exactly it.

Derrick Lewis against Cormier, that type of thing. That's exactly it. We'll probably never see him at this level again, even though he did ultimately get humbled in the loss. Derrick Lewis against Cormier, that type of thing. I was like, okay, we'll probably never see him at this level again, even though he did get an, ultimately get an interim title opportunity. I wonder if Moekano's not fighting for, I'm sorry, Derrick Lewis not fighting for a job per se, but he's fighting to protect the elite sort of,

you know, tag that he brings in with him. I wonder if it's the right motivation at the right time, is Moekano gonna be as fired up now that he has made some of that money? That's the thing I wonder too. I mean, what you just stated, because he, you feel like a guy like Moikano, like somehow he burst on the scene. He was almost like Mosvatov or something like that where it's like he's been in the league a long time.

He's been in MMA a long time. Nobody's really paying too close of attention until one moment. This guy's kind of a character and he's winning fights. And then all of a sudden you see him on his terms. It was that short notice fight he took when he took a beating, but showed his heart. And then beating Saint Denis, right? Like, not who he beat, like he beat that,

he was supposed to get smoked there. Thrashing him, yeah. But he ends up, I mean these things were like, they kind of turned the table, but you're like, did he blow his wad in this situation? I often wonder that, yes, yes. I mean seriously, I'm like, the whole, the way that played out,

was that kind of what we get from what kind of, like that whole situation? It's kind of like 2019-Mosviet all. The build up, getting that thing. Yeah, that's what I mean. He'll never be that again, because the motivation, it's like Pearl Jam can never write 10 over again,

because it's never gonna be that. They're not gonna be able to do it. They're not gonna have that feeling again. You know what I'm saying, Luke? It's another year I won't listen to that. What are you feeling with this blog inside of you? Have you consumed enough of it? Don't, don't, don't, you, I probably pissed. You can't say it's Pearl Jam, bro. I won't listen to that You have pissed yourself at a rusted root concert, who are you?

Seen ever clear. Yeah, but did you see collective soul in the 90s or did you see collective soul in this? Well, I mean you're just you're just the worst I mean some at a casino yeah, yeah, that's where they should be Moicano has an incredible personality Moicano has an incredible personality and I think is such a very charming character Yeah, and he does have considerable skills, too. Early crypto guy, too. You got to give him that. I don't know if that's credit or not, but but but certainly, you know, he's a very interesting

guy as a personality. I guess the thing I would say, though, is very usual, while quiet and, you know, he sort of family guy and salt and pepper. He keeps to himself. But he is just vastly, in my

judgment, more skilled. I really believe that a much stronger brain than I've given him credit for. So there you go right there. And he was always at least three fights away from a title shot somehow, even when he was on like a nine fight win streak. I'll tell you what, it's plus money if this fight goes the distance. I think it does. I think he's going to put up an opposition win or lose.

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when he somewhat imploded, if you will, against 37 year old veteran Hione Barcellos who was already on a run and continued it afterwards. Talbot was taken down 8 out of 15 times in that fight and he'll be an underdog because Brazil's Felipe Lima can wrestle, and he also won his two UFC fights to open his career, although at 145. So we're back at 135. Chuck, the storyline is super prospect Peyton Talbot is a underdog,

but that almost feels like market correction for me, considering his size and striking advantage. Is it going to come down to whether he keeps his back off the mat there? That's the big question. And he's worldly enough and elevated enough to understand. He made jokes like, I need to go to Dagestan, I need to learn how to wrestle.

He's a smart kid, man. And I'm like, I think he has very good acumen to like learn quickly, but wrestling is hard. It's very difficult to do. It'd be very interesting to see if he's been able and because I think now if you're, you know, if you're the jungle boy going into this, you're probably thinking I need to just take this guy down, right? Like at least that's going to be in your mind to be able to do this. And I think for Talbot, it's kind of one of those now, you know, if you looked at that as a fraud check,

which I think some people did, just given who he is, this one's now the full truth teller. Like if he goes in there and he lays an egg here, we're gonna be like, wow, why did we ever hype this dude? That's where he's at. But I also think that we could be reminded why we were hyping this dude if he goes in there and he looks like he did in his first couple of fights.

And now he's rocking with Frank Ocean. He doesn't wanna talk about the video though. Yeah. the butt vape. I don't know anything about this I'm just trying to buy the kids are talking about I did a big piece and I met the guy who did the butt vape It was not him. It was his roommate But anyway, like he still suffers from that whole episode, you know, you did a story about the butt vape Well, I didn't do it as I did about Peyton, but that became part of the story. It was like Well, I didn't do it in specific I did about Peyton but that became part of the story it was like How did your editor pitch you on that we need a story on the button not the button

Durable type thing. What are we talking about? Not quite like that. But anyway back to the what really matters the fights Luke like he interrupts you when he doesn't tell you But when it's your immaturity he wants Story you don't I see him so mark remarkable and I like to focus more on the 115 you know what I mean? Yeah, although I 125 lately on fire. Hey, here's what I'm really trying to say though. Luke, the experts are trying to tell you that Felipe Lima is going to be able to control him in wrestling. But if you really look at the stats Talbot has been pretty damn good and take down defense before

that barcelos fight against numbers. He did stop seven, although he gave up eight in that one. It's almost 50% was the top position killer that the oddsmakers are trying to say here. Shouldn't the four inch height advantage the fact that he attempts twice as many punches per strikes per round carry Talbot in this and well could but if I think people are I mean calling Felipe Lima a wrestler is not quite right. Disrespectful, you think?

Well, he can wrestle quite well, yes, it's a part of his game. He can do a bunch of shit really well. In fact, that's how I would describe his game. I mean, recall something. This was a guy who had a championship belt in Octagon, the promotion out in Europe. He's much more battle tested on the regional scene. I would even argue more battle tested than frankly, I mean, the Marcellus fight notwithstanding, but certainly in terms of victory is much more battle

tested than Talbot. I mean, he's had to work on a vaster array of skills. So I think Talbot's got some real striking advantages. That is true. And that's what you're pinpointing. Sure. And that's real, but be like, like oh well Lima has to wrestle him to win Well, he can against nine miles striking is not in Peyton's level. No, it's not a paid one But if you but dude is Islam striking on Dustin Poirier's level

No, but the fact that he has such a fucking threat there it changes the whole game Does this the Vegas odds are crazy because they had they had Talbot like You know minus one thousand and all of his fights before this one. Now he's an underdog. It's just a crazy juxtaposition for him. What does this matchmaking say about UFC's opinion of what they really have in Talbot? Because they're gonna... Well, that's what I was gonna ask you guys because to me, you would think if they really were invested in his brand of whatever he's doing,

because he's a very different kind of star. Sure. Very, very different. But they would give him a layup. They would give him some guy that they were like, hey, there's no threat of anything here. This guy wants throw hands, and this is perfect. They're not doing that It's a little surprising. I'm a little surprised I don't I can't tell if this is them saying well

Let's find out right now what we have or if this is them saying yeah, well Let's find out right now what we have because they're there unhappy Absolutely them asking wait wait wait wait wait timeout. What the fuck right? What is this? Yeah? Yeah? That is absolutely them asking, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, time out. What the fuck? What is this? Yeah. Yeah. That is absolutely. I think you're right. Stopped by Barcellos, but he imploded, would you say? Right. He looked bad. Yeah, he looked bad. And it was like you saw the existential vertigo because he was like, I can't stop this. Right. Go to the canvas.

And he's like, I can't stop it. You know, it's one thing to lose. It's one thing to lose badly. It's another thing at the UFC level to get manhandled. That's true. Yeah. He got manhandled. And I don't mean just like physically like Brock Lesnar popped in there like the Kool-Aid man. I mean, like he looked like he it's one thing if oh, I someone's shooting a double and I can't stuff it because they're really good. But you know what to do downblocks sprawl all that. He looked like he just didn't even know what to do. He didn't have it. I'm with you on that one. Interesting fight. I do think Talbot bounces back in a big way because it's really comes down to is he the real or not?

I think he's gonna show you who he is. I hope so I don't want to see how he blossoms. I want to see how what he does if he's able to stick around long out Look, I guarantee you're betting the other way. I'm going Felipe Lima Lima's good. Good. This is a good match. Hey that my, John's? Good matchmaking on this card. Very good matchmaking. That's what I'm saying, like, people asking about this card, I get some of the complaints, but,

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I am gonna, ooh. median here is for three rounds. You taking more or less on that one? I am gonna, ooh. 94 significant strikes over three rounds. He does let his hands go. I'll take the over. Yeah. I'll take the over. I think he crosses 100. That's rare, by the way, for a three round fight, but I think he can do it.

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Very, very interesting stuff right there. One more on when we're looking at, of course, this Felipe Lima fight. They have his total takedowns at 0.5. I'm going more. I'm going more. He's got a test helmet right away. I'd be surprised.

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For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see pic6.draftkings.com slash promos. Let's get into the preliminary card here for UFC 317 on Saturday. Chuck, a lot of people are looking at this prelim featured bout in the middleweight division. Not sure which way to go betting wise when the veteran Jack Ramanson comes in there against Hobo cock Hobo cock, uh, Greg, Gregory Hobo cock on the way here, Penn station bathroom, Penn

station bathroom, brother Hobo cock kind of fell apart when canineer was willing to go into the war, the war base with them. I mean they went after it in that fight. It was fun to see. Basically, if Hobo cock doesn't kill you in the first two, you know, two, you know, round and a half, you might be able to get the upper hand. What do you see in this fight? I thought Hermanza looked really good, like last time out. Took out Pfeiffer. But you know what's weird about him is like he's been trading wins and losses for like five years

Like where it's just win loss went like literally straight down the line and sometimes in surprising Yeah, and what did he leave off with like I don't even know but uh, I know the last one was a victory, right? Loss if we're following that trajectory a loss is inevitable, but Yeah, it's your on a gap before that last fight. Yeah, I'm kind of I I think her loss, if we're following that trajectory, a loss is inevitable, but... He had a two-year gap before that last fight, too. Yeah. I'm kind of... I think Hermansen sometimes underachieves. I don't know if that makes sense, but there's been times where I'm like,

I feel like he's gonna do work against somebody, and he goes in there, and he kind of... He's like, oh, man. Falls apart. Yeah, he falls apart. So I feel like he's a hard prediction, but in this matchup, given, you know, kind of who he's fighting here. I dig it I think it's a good fight for him

Interesting interesting. I like that Luke. Are you a believer in hobo cop? I am just a really fun fighter listen. He got tested against cannoneer cannoneers fucking tough even at 40 years of goddamn age But by the way, he looks like he's and I'm not trying to be but he would think if you guessed what how old he was Yeah, yeah 28. Yeah, that's how he looks. I mean, it I'm not trying to be, but you would think, if you guessed what. How old he was? Yeah, 28. Yeah. That's how he looks, I mean it's insane how chiseled he is. But what I'm, but I. Hobo in his face looks about 45.

Yeah, I know. Even hobo copper? You once called him a catcher's mitt. So what? The first person I called that was Noguera. Noguera got the first of those. Well that's, I mean, that's funny. That's actually pretty accurate though.

I know, it's like, dude, it's like, imagine if you mixed an ashtray and a catcher's mitt you get no Gara, but which one? That's brutal, but yes. Yes. You see this fucking face. I mean it was barely hanging on for like You're going her man's in here I took her Manson with the spread but you can do the spread at three and a half five and a half seven and a half So I took him at seven and a half. So one judge has to give him one round. That's it. Wow, real aggressive betting there, guy. Yeah, because you're taking Hermansen as a dog. I think it's also plus one.

So wait a second, if it gets stopped in like the third and he wins the first, do you get paid out? No, no. So if Hermansen loses by finish, it's a dead bet. If he wins in any way, it hits, and if he just covers the spread via scorecards. I hope a cop does seem like the type of guy if you count him out He'll get a vicious knockout that yeah, exactly. He was like he was dealing early in that fight, too I mean yes, he faded on the stretch, but he was dealing I don't know I feel like a guy like that if you can keep a little bit more sustained pressure Pretty good punch resistance in that brawl to be in there Should we be hyped about 35 year old Filipino featherweight

Heider Amil who is 11 and 0 as a professional 3 and 0 in the UFC but he takes on a Jose Miguel Delgado who doesn't have a Wikipedia page. Should we care? I mean, that one is yeah, that one to me is not super high on the list of intrigue. I don't think it's a bad fight by any stretch, but no, it's not one that deserves attention. Tracy Cortez. We're a big fan on this program. We use the straw. I mean, I don't hate her, but you know, when we say we are fans, you're a fan. The

table only tilts one way when we're talking about. Yeah. I feel like I don't know these guys anymore. She finally found the UFC defeat when she stepped up against Rosanamma Eunice and lost a decision. Was it competitive? She lost an eyelash. I mean, it was it was kind of a humbling loss, but she's facing a 38 year old Vivianne. After a year though, right? She's coming back after a long time. Who is a decision machine. But who always loses when she steps up to the highest. That's true too. Consistently. I think Tracy Cortez bounces back and clues. In fact, I think this is one of the safest bets her by her by decision in here. Cortez has had issues fading down the stretch too, but I agree with you. I think she's I think she's better overall. Better with Ortega or without?

Without. What I'm going to say is too, if you look at the case, if you look at the case of Araujo, she like loses to Natalia Silva then beats Carini Silva. It's like yeah, right. That's exactly who you are right there So I saw her in a main event once at the apex by the way, Raja Raja or whatever How long ago was that it was about four or five years ago this guy this guy this guy was like yo I'm not even gonna talk to my girlfriend Arraujo was fighting in the motherfucking apex. I got a seven-hour broadcast If she's fighting Cortez, he might not be talking to his girlfriend for a while. You never know membership Cortez beat Blanchfield back of the day It was a BS. It was a what's the what's the significance? I mean, what's the split decision? Yeah, yeah interesting stuff right there. Also, I'm into this lightweight tilt with Terrence McKinney 30 years old

all 16 wins by stoppage, 15 of those in the first round as a professional by the way, but he can get just as easily knocked out in the first round as we've seen often. Dude, this is gonna be theater. Fun fighter. Slava Klaus, Vyacheslav, Boryshev, great TV fighter. I think this could be the fight at plus 500 for this fight to go the distance. I think this could be the fight that McKinney streak stops. Whereas every single fight in his career has, has been a stoppage win or lose. I think that with the fact that Boryshev can take punishment and routinely does

that his only stoppage loss came against chase Hooper and he said he didn't tap. Although Alistair felt it. And I really think this could be the time because what McKinney said, this is his second fight with his new camp He said the first fight was only a knockout. Yeah. He said the first one was only a knockout because the guy kind of ran into it he's saying his Mindset on Saturday will be if he can't get Boryshev out of there early. It's to not overextend I don't know if he can do that because he loves action

But you know go in the distance or not. This is a pretty fun fight here Could this signify a stretch the start of a actual run for McKinney? because he loves action, but going the distance or not, this is a pretty fun fight here. Could this signify a stretch, the start of a actual run for McKinney? I have no idea, but it's a fun fight and I'm looking forward to seeing it. It's hard for me to make any kind of proclamation about it. I kind of dig the, at plus 500 though,

that's an intriguing, if you're a gambler, that's a pretty, yeah, 100%. You know, that's, hey, what is your take on all the comics moving to Austin? The what? Comics? Oh, all the, all the, no. Where are they running from?

I don't have a take on that. I don't know. Joe Rogan started something, you know. All right, well... He's been out there. He's been out to Austin. He's visited that whole thing. Yeah, I was on the show.

That's true. I forgot about that. He was, yeah. It's a good comic. I forgot about that because he forgot about us during that show. All right, thank you. Nico Price is an obscene underdog. We mentioned at the top of the show,

against a plus 3,000. So this Jacoby Smith line of plus 3,000. Yeah, undefeated Jacoby Smith. Minus 3,000. Undefeated. He's good, man. I believe this trumps the record, which was supposed to be Shevchenko against Nico Montano was the record

for the biggest favorite in UFC history. This crushes that. Is that right? Jesus. How good is Jacoby Smith? 10 and 0, 8 kick, 8 savages. So I think Jacoby Smith? Ten to no, eight kick stoppages. So I think Jacoby Smith is very good, but I don't know if he's about minus three fucking thousand good.

Especially against a guy like that, who has nine, I'd look this up. He has 18 fights. The Antonio Cramardi of MMA? Yes. He has 18, I think 18 fights. Children? Fights.

Okay. To the two, you know, UFC fights. It's a crazy line, but I will say that Jacobi Smith, you know, he trains at Fortis, he goes up, D.C.'s buddies with him, they bring him up there, he trains with Habib, you talk to this dude, like, he's legit, man, he is legit. You watch that left hand that he landed on Parsons,

it was ridiculous, it went right, it was like one of the cleanest knockouts this year. I think Jacobi wins, but I think the line's a little- They're making it seem like Price is handicapped. He's 35 years old, he has lost four of his last six, two by stoppage. Robbie Lawler got him easy, it seemed, in the first round. This is the ice floe. They're putting him on the ice floe and give him a kick.

They're like, okay, see you later. All right, all right. We don't care about heavyweight Johanna Denise against... Johanna Denise, no. Against unbeaten Alvin Hines making his UFC debut with nobody. No, no, no. And then there's a curtain-jerker below that. I don't think There's a couple on there that are not like amazing but yeah in general You're right. There's a there's tons of there's at least there's more than there's more than five fights to like that's plenty

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Guys, this is a loaded fight weekend because there is a, for better or worse, head-to-head headliner in Anaheim, California, where Jake Paul takes on Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. I wasn't even going to do it a bit. I totally forgot. On the Zone pay-per-view. Quickly, we have maligned the fight. I think there's enough reason to... Everyone has AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, who gives a fuck about that fight? I'm not talking about it. 39-year-old Chavez, that's it, right? That's all we're saying?

PFL tonight, by the way, by the way, Stotz versus Sergio Pettis, good fight. Yeah, but there's no stakes. That's a good ass fight. That's tomorrow night, isn't it? Oh, it's tomorrow? Tomorrow night, yeah, sure, yeah. Yeah, today's Thursday. Oh, Luke, you did get off the bird from an XFC card in South Florida Fire it up for you killed and you see any future killers there pay attention to the name Jarrett

Bettencourt Jarrett and Bettencourt. He looks like he's the real also Anthony went holy mother fuck I mean, I just he looks like prime fucking Schwarzenegger out there. It just traps to the ceiling. Amazing. And and he fucked the other guy up real real real proper. And Preston Parsons has. Preston Parsons has the most overwhelming cauliflower I've ever seen. Imagine going to Whole Foods and just taking two big ass heads of collard and just doing that. Is it more alarming than the roast beef of that soccer goalie? Okay, okay There's a place I like to hide I have a train a

Doorway that I run through in the night. How often is shitting blood too often? Smiling next to you. can you get sick drinking piss? Even if it's your own Luke what if for the record what is your favorite Creed song? I'm serious about this burn the Masters No, I'm not a pathetic white. I'm six feet from the edge of town. I'm a pathetic white, but I'm a different guy. You guys do have very different music tastes.

Can we fucking go? I gotta train to get out of here. Maybe six feet ain't so far down. Anytime he starts pulling the mic, it's like he's extending. Thank you to Quervo. Thank you to DraftKings. We love you all. Thank you for watching. Chuck Minnan and all people can find you on Uncrowned. I'm sure. Maybe get your hat on the BostonScallyMyth.com?

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