MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC 321: Aspinall-Gane Eye Poke, No Contest | Mackenzie Dern Wins Title | Umar Nurmagomedov Rebounds

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell are live in the studio on a Morning Kombat Monday to go over all the news from UFC 321 — starting with the eye poke seen around the world. The guys answer questions surrounding the disappointing no contest result after Tom Aspinall was on the receiving end of a Ciryl Gane eye poke. The co-main didn't disappoint, however, as Mackenzie Dern's long road to a championship belt was fulfilled with her victory over Virna Jandiroba. And there's so much more from UFC 321 to break down including Umar Nurmagomedov's return to the win column and will Alexander Volkov get a title shot after his win on over the weekend?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an IHeart podcast. My God. It's us doing what we love. It's time to bang. Oh, yeah, it's Monday morning. You've got to get fired up for this. Morning combat back in your face hole. UFC 321 reaction here.

It's October 27th. Of the 2025s, let's do this thing. Brian Campbell live and direct from the Greater Hartford Suburbs. This man who joins us by. way of Washington, D.C. Warsh. Even though they canceled this train home. They canceled my train ride home.

Welcome to Manhattan and Metal Arc Studios. One Luke Thomas of Bang Energy Can fame. I mean, what flavor is that? Piss on your relatives. This is Big Bang Zhang flavor. It's any means orange. Yeah. And then it says on top, any means possible.

And I'm like, I don't, I don't know how I feel about that name. It's a little controversial of a name. Yeah, to start off on this. It's full of vitamins and minerals, B.C., so you keep me alive. We're going to talk a lot about Aspinall getting probed. McKenzie Dern climbing the mountain. A little talk as well about the box over the weekend when Fabio Wardly shocked the world and a questionable stoppage against Joseph Parker.

Of course, we'll go through your DMs. We'll go through my shit. Luke Thomas, first of all, people can like and subscribe. So why don't you put that on the screen? There you go. Thank you very much. Follow what we're doing on this show in our life. lives on our YouTube channels.

LT, it was a weird ass weekend of fights, not what we... It was a weird card. Not what we expected, not what was intended, but were you entertained? No. I mean, sort of. This is why the card was weird, right? Because it had

a... I mean, it goes without saying the ending of the main event was close to worst case scenario. It was pretty bad. Yeah. And the co-main event was a fine fight, but rather pedestrian for a title fight. But then you have the Australian kid with the most unpronounceable name on the prelim card. Oh, yeah, that's Long Island.

Is it, how do you say, kill the man? I think is that. Quillan, Saul, kill. That's it. Maybe the best head kit, K.O. I've seen in years in M.M.A. Truly, I mean that. So, we saw Chris Barnett's ass a lot. I got to look at Chris Barnett's butt cheeks. That's always a plus, I suppose. By the way, I hear my shit is on fire. The only person I've talked about is me, but I hear that the shit is going to be worth staying for. Merzikonov had a nice win. Yes. But there was a bunch of. fights on that. The card was like

it would gather momentum and then die. And then gather momentum and then die. It kind of reminds me of John Jones's phoner when he's wrestling with Hasbula. Like sometimes he's rock hard. You guys have told me he has a big old throbber when he's doing this. I have not seen this video. Have you seen this shit? Yeah, you can't erase

it from your memory banks once you see it. Okay, so this is interesting. We're going to... The greatest of all time. Okay, all right. This is what the show is about, really. Let's say hi officially this time to the third member of our team. He's a producer, director, Bong, enthusiast. the son of an Australian and the proprietor of the main card minute podcast. Here's Luke Nocita of Long Island.

He hates gambling. I love gambling. Shout out Chonzie Billups. Shout out Terry Rozier. Shout out Derek Gaynor. Is that the guy's name? I don't know. There's a third one.

I don't forget his name. No, no. The M. The M.M.A. guys. Derek. Who's the guy? James Kraus.

Yeah, but who's the other guy? Derek Miner. Miner, yeah. Or Miner? Miner. Miner. Yeah, that's right. Brian Miner is the officiant.

Yes. All right. Yeah. Good weekend, guys. I thought the fights were pretty fun. Obviously, the card ended weird, but I felt like the prelims, they banged. Bang's a strong word.

Well, we just talked about the explosive finishes. This bangs. That does bang a little bit. Long Island Luke, you said you didn't drink 12 Bud Lights while podcasting this weekend. You only hit that B-O-N-G a few times. Why?

Because it was a day card. You know, I'm not really trying to get wasted during the day. I like how he defines sobriety. It's just not having beer. I did say to you guys. I didn't want to get wasted. You were high. I was.

And, you know, maybe that's what made me think that Jane Giroba won that fight. You know, we'll talk about it in a little bit. He tried to talk both of us into that. Let me tell you what it is. And obviously, we're going to talk about it. I'll just say this up front as a teaser. The reason why you feel that way is because that was a winnable fight for her. And I'm not saying she fully gave it away because depending on what she would have done,

who knows what the response would have been. But it could have been a lot closer than it actually was. That's what you... Dana said they beat the shit out of each other. It was a... Okay, it wasn't a great fight, but it was sort of... It was some onus to it.

They fought with some meaning. There was a steady pace to the whole thing and it was 25 minutes. They're both good. You're going to get a little brutality. But, you know, you weren't watching the ascension of... No. Somebody just mowing through the division.

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. That wasn't happening right there. We'll get into all of that, of course. Right now we'd like you to get into what we're... Hold on. I went to a... I don't have a...

I'm not showing you anything. I'm just getting my nasal spray. But I went to a Halloween kids dance party. Dude, you and the kids parties? Yeah. Hey, Hey, Jeffrey, please back away. All right, let's go.

Listen, listen. I took my daughter. I was trying to be a good dad. She wanted to go. She went last year. She wanted to go to a kid's Halloween dance party. It actually was fun. They served adult beverages.

I had a couple. Bob, if I can be honest with you. Did you hit the vape by the car before walking? No, not for that one. That one I did not. So I had a couple of beer. I had two, I had two of their specialty cocktails. met an MK donk there who also took his kid to the dance party

and he wanted to make sure I said it on air that he had a he was a big fan so there you go all right all right shout out to that big fan in your life right there did he or did he not have sleeve tattoos three quarters fully sleeved yeah yeah do you think his ass cheeks when you looked him up and down were you considering the fact that his ass cheeks were tatted well I just want to point out you are the one that is including John Jones' boner footage today. This is not my call. That's relevant toward the arc of his story, particularly

this arc. I didn't put it in there. I had no say over this. Finally, what I'm trying to say is we'd like you the viewer to dress in our clothing over there at morningcombat. Dot shop. The final days are upon us for the October exclusives. You've seen them.

Now you can wear them right now. Get an autograph poster. Thank you to the fine outwork of one average Joe of California fame. out to that gentleman. Also, you can mix and match the color schemes, get one for your family ahead of the holidays. We have some evergreen items as well on that website. Morningcombat. Dot shop. Thank you very much. Yeah. All right. Yeah. LT, what are you doing there? Can I get a napkin, please? What are they? The staff is your, you know, well, I mean,

I can kill this microphone and get up and go. I can do that, but that's typically frowned upon. You can just left. Ken's like, what did you do with your weekend that was so much better than a kids' Halloween dance party, which, by the way, is a low bar to clear, but I'm guessing it might still be a challenge for you. I accompany my wife to the mall to begin Christmas shopping yesterday, which, you know, before fucking Halloween? I can't get into it, but yes, yes. Wow.

It was a brutal afternoon, but great weather at all, great weather in Connecticut this weekend. Say it out loud, say it proud. October is the king of months. Yeah, October bangs, right? Thank you, Ken. Ken is on top of everything. You know what I'm saying? New York City pimp.

Yeah. All right, let's watch Luke. What problems do you have? Sinus-related? I mean, you know, I'm not meant for longevity. You know, we all know this. I mean. But did you see that video of Islam making fun of Ali Abdel-Aziz

because he hired a barber for a $200 haircut that just included shaving his head down to the year? I found a guy in D.C. Ready for this? No, ha, 50. I feel like that's pretty good. Pretty good. Who pays $200 for a head shave?

a guy with a lot of money that's a fair boy a guy with a lot of money shout out to manager of the stars on that one really what you're just paying for is whatever their their hourly rate is and that they come to your house that's what he's paying for you know all right you got a new guy that's great yeah that's great all right he does not go to my

house I have to go to his place but uh that's how it's meant to be what is this you know 1859 what are we doing what he's going to deliver the milk on the way there to hey I watched a movie over the weekend with Toekster and it was British and the doctors kept coming to the house she's like when do doctors come to the house I'm like well they kind of used to even even here. They don't do that shit anymore. No, they don't do that shit anymore. The only people

that deliver anymore are horrors, you know what I mean? And the pizza guys. Yeah, and pizza guys are the same breed. All right, enough of this absolute bullshit that you probably fast forwarded through anyway. Uh, but we're back. We're ready. Let's do it with topic. Number one. You knew it already. UFC 321 from Abu Dhabi late Saturday afternoon, at least if you were watching on the East Coast. Not what we expected. We already laid that out ahead of time. Still a lot to talk about coming out of here from this Tom Aspinall, Cyril Gahn, first defense of the undisputed title for Tom, and it is a no contest. The first time in UFC history, a fight ends, a title fight ends as a no contest to close a pay-per-view. Of course, John Jones, Daniel

Cormier became one from UFC 214 when Jones failed a test. But no one wanted this ending, so let's just say it. Not only does the heavyweight division remain on ice as far as moving the title picture forward, but Tom Aspinall's insane bad luck really only can continued when you consider the knee injury came back from the John Jones soap opera, the 15 months off heading into this fight. Now he had Cyril Gahn poking holes through both of his orifices, knuckle deep, at least on one of them. But it's also created some knee-jerk narratives from the idea that maybe Aspernal could have continued or should have from some tough guys. Also, to the idea that it was gone on his way to beating him from what we saw in round one. It was only four plus minutes of action.

And either way, gone succeeded in checking the prostate of aspirin all through that eye socket. And for a fight in which very little took place, Luke Thomas, what is the biggest takeaway for you? Because I see some saying Tom's a bitch. I see some saying gone was on his way to becoming heavyweight champion. I see a lot of other people talking about how do we change this eye-poking culture. What do you come out of this fight with as the first and foremost thing we learned? I mean, the problem is there's many really important ones. Just as a note, we were talking about this before the show.

There's a lot of criticism when MMA media is not sufficiently reverential of fighters. But I think an episode like this goes to show you nobody is meaner to the fighters than not all the fans, obviously, but a pretty noticeable section of them. And I don't think it's in any way accidental that we've got a rise of content creators who are also mean and nasty to the fighters. It's just very funny that like the fans pressuring media, the traditional media, who are the nicest one, of the entire group, two fighters to be nicer by the people who are actually meaner, very funny. Okay. Putting that aside, this only magnified heavyweights various but now intersecting problems. The event and the main event BC was designed to be something of a page term. Yes. We can say goodbye to all of the problems where John Jones has it. He's not active. We've

it over a million times but even more than that francis leaves we hadn't had a ufc title defense at heavyweight by a sitting champion in literally years okay what john stepe no long before that long before that but john was sitting francis gone yeah francis gone because john stepe was for a vacant title this is a title defense by a reigning champion no john had already gotten the title against gone then he missed a year plus due to the injury defended against stepe oh i guess but the point being that it was still incomplete because Ngano had walked away and Aspernel was the end of champs. Yes, yes, yes.

So the point I'm trying to make is there was just a lot of problems that had been kind of lingering and themselves falling on top of each other. This event was designed whether you got to, even if we got a gone win, it wouldn't have mattered, at least would have been a page turner to all of that. And instead, all it ended up doing was magnifying the various problems. Because now you've got a case where the reigning champion,

had a, do you want to call it a poor showing? It wasn't a great showing. Yeah, I mean, the degree of whether it was his fall and how... It's so limited that you're a little bit couched in that. But it wasn't a great showing. Somebody wins one-on-one and then goes on to lose the rest of the way. 100%. But it was...

Look, at the very least, it peaks more interest in the rematch. Even though the rematch is a headache for UFC and Dana White said it as much, it peaks more interest. Okay, it does. But for Tom Asperall, it's another disaster. And I got to be fair. Tom Asmore posted in live streams from his doctor's visit this morning

I know the intention that he tried to do it doesn't help him, it doesn't make him look good and I'm not one of these people that's saying he's a quitter I'm just saying if you're already on that side of the line he's giving you more ammo of things that should be behind the curtain in my opinion. Yeah I mean let's just finish the point though but now what it ends up doing is because it left such a dissatisfying taste in everyone's mouth

it brings more scrutiny onto the division and in which case and this is in again want to be clear about this this is not an exclusive issue to UFC by any stretch the imagination. It used to be the case where you could say, well, Pride had a better heavyweight division than UFC, but then they merged, and of course, the whole thing in general got a lot better. This is a case where you're looking around, you're saying, who else could you even add to this division to make a difference? You're still stuck in the

same gear you were in prior to 321 about getting some kind of resolution to this last chapter. It is unfortunate, and we can talk about ways it could have gone or should have gone, but my biggest takeaway is BC, this was supposed to be good. goodbye, and it was simply a reintroduction. And if Aspernel would have come through with the win, which we obviously don't know what would have happened, it's bringing some level of intrigue to the rematch, it at least would have hopefully answered some of the questions more

that we had about Tom, despite his great success, and maybe push Tom over for all the people that said, hey, maybe I'm not a hardcore MMA fan these days, but who's this guy that forced John Jones to walk away? Well, we saw that guy, and that guy had a bloody nose and two fingers into his orifice. We can't show the video, of course, but let's just look at the still picture just to see what we're up against.

Not great. So you can see the left eye of Tom, which is on the right side of the screen, that's the one where the finger went literally knuckle deep. He wasn't joking when he was complaining about being booed, but it seems to be his right eye as the one that created more damage. He's wearing a bandage over his right eye

during the hospital visit that he put on social media early this morning. I have a theory about that? I mean, dude, that's legit. That's freaking legit. Yeah, I have a theory about that. The one that went in further, it almost went just straight

whereas the one on his right, it did not appear, it did not appear anyway, to go as deep, but it swiped. Yes. And I wonder if that action of going, you know, laterally, scratched it in some kind of way. We got a quick, this was Daniel Cormier Caged side after the pay-per-view ended,

after he had ran into Aspinall, just to give you, set the stage of what it was like there at the scene right after this foul. I saw Tom Aspinall. His right eye is covered in a bandage because he cannot open it still. We're 20 minutes past the fight ending. And what's crazy about that is his other eye

was the one where his hand went knuckle deep. The right side was scraped down more. The left side was the one that went knuckle deep and really would have been hard to deal with if not for the pain he was seen on the other side. Time was very upset that people were booing. And then people saw the replay and were like, wait a minute, maybe we should be booing the other guy.

Then they booed Cyril Gahn. So, Luke, I have to say I'm more just to begin with on D.C. side. It's obviously the worst case scenario that a fight would end without us capitalizing on the opportunity to move the division along and learn things. But I don't see how you can watch the slow-mo after what Tom went through and then take the aggressive stance that a loud minority is starting to take. And it's not just keyboard warriors, right? It's legitimate fighters with legitimate backgrounds. So this has got a little bit serious enough where we did have to bring in our friends

from Cuervo to settle this with a little something that we call Shots Fire. And Shots Fire is brought to you by Cuervo. Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Luke, we have Anthony Smith and Chale Sondon, two former title challengers, legit badass. This turned out to be quite controversial.

It did. But here are they on the ESR. post-game show taking a stance that some fans maybe that bet and didn't cash in took online but not a lot of fighters though were dunkin on tom but maybe not to this degree let's listen it's the fact his legacy his fault or not well don't be mad at me you had a job to do and you for whatever reason you guys did whatever you did and you didn't do your job i'm not saying it's tom's fault and i'm not i'm not gonna you know pretend that i know how bad it is or isn't i think chale made it made a poetic point that you have to be used to or will

willing to fight with one eye. I did it in Singapore. Everyone talks about it all the time where the ladies waving stuff in front of my eyes. I can't see it. So what do I do? I just walk away. I said, let's fight. You either want to or you don't. And my fight wasn't for a world title. I didn't have cereal gone in front of me throwing bombs. But the second that there was an issue, I knew that I wanted to continue. So I know what to say. You never say, I can't see if you want to continue to fight. So when they ask the question, you just nod your head and you just walk away. Like you find a way to get away from the doctor. If you want to fight, you can fight. My trainer, Coach Clayton, when we'd be practicing every now and then he would yell out to the

whole room, close your left eye, and then you know, open your left eye, close your right eye later. He'd say, don't breathe through your nose anymore, breathe through your mouth. And the idea was if your eye gets swollen and it gets shut, or if your nose gets clogged and you can't breathe that, they're kind of used to these things. Tom said something, look, we got to dwell on a guy in a really bad moment, but to dwell on him. He said, I got, I got poked in the eye, I can't see. If you got poked in the eye and you're injured, We have a totally different conversation. If you get poked in the eye and you can't see generally in our sport,

that there's just something... It's kind of like James Kahn's speech in the movie the program, the College of Football One, you know, you're either hurt, you're injured. But, Luke, it's one thing. Look, D.C. poked the shit out of Stipe in their title fight. D.C.'s been poked really badly in big fights. It's one thing if one eye gets affected.

Dude, this is straight up, both of them. Is this a acceptable stance from ex-fighters to say, sorry, you got to fight through that. Anything can happen? Um... I would imagine on some level, I think there's probably a little something to it, for sure. I mean, they're right, right? You're going to have circumstances where it could be the first punch of the night, right?

You get a jab and it breaks your nose, and now what are you going to do? But that is a legal shot. Understanding, but you might be, you might have 10 fights in your career, let's say, and your 11th fight, someone breaks your nose, and now where are you? You're in a place where you have to adjust to a reality, or you could get your, you know, you could get hit with something and your vision is obstructed. It's a legal punch. And now you have to just kind of adapt to a situation if you want to win. That is clearly true. To me, that is, I think it is important to be able to say if you're a fighter, you have the physical durability and the

mental fortitude in very difficult. And sometimes, let's just call it unfair circumstances to persevere just by sheer will alone. I can appreciate that instinct and the ability to do that. However, I just feel like we're talking about a somewhat different circumstance here. It's not a regular fight night. This is the heavyweight championship when you've been forced to sit out for 15 months. Yeah.

I mean, the fight that Smith is referencing is a fight against Ryan Span. He wanted to be a split decision. And credit to him, that was a tough thing to do. But the stakes and the difficulty of the opponent are nowhere near a heavyweight title fight. Even as we granted the division is somewhat diminished. More to the point, like, I'll be honest with you,

if you can't actually see and you're in a UFC title, fight, it is irrational to keep going. Could you show your toughness if you really wanted to as a way to gut through and maybe get a win? Yeah, of course it is. But like, if someone told you at the beginning of the fight, we're going to cover your eye and now you have to compete, and by the way, a reason we're going to cover it is because someone fouled you and now you have to deal with these circumstances. This is not something anyone would ever agree to. This is, you got someone, again, we could talk about the intentionality of it and to what extent that is relevant. I'm pointing out the stakes are too high the give up is too much it is irrational to keep going in a situation

of this magnitude with this kind of injury i'm going to take him out his word about the severity if you want to have the highest level of excellence in the sport we should make a point here i don't think tom aspinall quit i don't i don't want to be clear i don't think he did that but i got to be honest like even if he did so what hear me out on this George St. Pierre, these are all different circumstances, meaningfully different. But George St. Pierre, when he got bodied by Matt Serra in their first, in their first, what you call it, in their first fight, he tapped to strikes. People think it was a TKO stoppage because if you don't notice it, he leans over and taps the mat and calls it a day.

Like this idea that this inherently makes you a quitter for all time clearly is not true. There's really no evidence to show, certainly in his further career, that that ended up being a thing. more to the point, he saved himself from further damage in a situation. Now, that was different because that fight was already lost and wasn't a foul. But I'm pointing out, people surrender in MMA all the time for reasons that are, to varying degrees, strategic. I don't think Tom did that. But even if he did, under the fouling circumstance, it's not a big departure from other instances of surrender that we just take as a given. I got you. Also, it was both eyes. And I get when Anthony Smith is saying, you know, you'll find a way to let them believe that you can see and continue.

But what if you literally can't see? I wonder if, I wonder if, if Cyril Gahn did not have the success he had. And shout out to Cyril Gahn, because come the day before, you know, the fight, all of us that make predictions for whatever they're worth were like, I just can't talk myself into Gond even, you know, going the distance here. Gone put that on his shoulders, fought very well, bloody the nose of Tom. Luke, if he had not had that success, would we hear the same people's leaning towards the quit angle here? If Tom wasn't, because I see people say, oh, before the eye poke, you could see he's breathing out of his mouth,

he's gasped, he didn't expect gone to be this good. Whether that's all true or not, the fact that it's there, I think gives people the liberty and luxury to lean toward the, oh, come on, he quit, fine. Yeah, I would say there's just no denying the fact that gone, relative to expectations overperformed clearly has made the situation worse, right? In terms of the perception anyway.

Gone was doing well. And to your point, bled it up his nose. The jab was landing. He actually landed a couple of lead hooks off on that open stance. He looked good. He was bigger, too. Did you notice his chest? He was moving fluidly.

His takedown defense looked good. Although I went back and I watched the takedown attempt. It wasn't a super, you know, he didn't. Tom flashed the takedown, but he didn't commit. Yeah, he didn't like, you know, it wasn't the best effort. he ever gave but the point is you're asking a question did the way in which gone performed again and i'm going to add a little nuance especially relative to expectations did that is that affecting

some of the post fight narrative there's just no question in my mind i think it's unfair though overall i think it's unfair it's two fingers in the eye it's early in the fight there's a lot of things going on here and i think you have to take into account the story that that tom had up to this point having to wait all to prove himself all this stuff it was like all this shit was against him it's it i don't know title fights are different i don't like when you're taking away man can't see can't fight terry terry silver taught us that in karate kid part yeah that's true quick silver method but the other part too is like it also robs tom to a degree here because let's say gone wins the first round the round the round the round was almost over uh fine but then tom finds a way to start

building momentum in round two and then gets a stoppage in round three this would have been a triumphant moment for him it is robbed from him and now you've got you know i don't i mean i don't know what the number is, but there's enough of a vocal, whether it's a minority or a majority of people saying, hey, Tom quit, Tom's this, that, the other. A lot of pro fighters coming out and saying. Yeah, yeah, I understand. Again, I understand them trying to police the ranks around toughness to a degree. Again, to a degree, I understand that.

But I'm just pointing out, you've got all of this pressure, whoever it's coming from, raining down on Tom. And to your point now, now he seems to maybe he's overcompensating to a degree, like with the kind of medical validation. Dude, he should not be showing a full video. of his hospital breakdown, a full video of trying to talk to the doctor and say, should this fight have been stopped? That should not be shown publicly. I don't even think the argument Tom and his dad made during that video of like, look,

the fight should have been a DQ. The ref had warned him. There's a whole separate discussion, and I hope we have time to have it about how you change this moving forward. But I think that just looks bad when people are already saying stuff about you and then you come out and be like, well, he should have been disqualified anyway. Either way, everything is seemingly against Tom, including Dana White's reaction, which brings another conspiratorial angle. Let's first listen to the UFC CEO when asked about this, debacle. I said earlier because of the John Jones fight, I think everybody was sleeping on Cyril gone and sort of wrote him off, but I feel like, you know, I'm sure in his camp, he was training

like a animal for this fight, and it's unfortunate that it ended the way that it did. And yes, I think that there probably will be a lot more interest in the rematch after they saw you know he i mean he had tom bloodied up and um you know tom didn't didn't want to continue in the fight so the rematch is very interesting look what he said looks worse on paper because it looks like he's dunking on them most people when watching the video still think he's being dunked on is it right to connect a conspiratorial dot to this to the idea of what tom's father and manager andy aspinall had been saying publicly about once two more fights are done and our are you know UFC contracts up, we're going to professional boxing.

Did that play a factor in Dana choosing the verbiage of Tom chose not to continue, even though technically he did choose not to continue? I wasn't big on the idea that there would have been some kind of conspiracy before, and I've got to tell you, that comment, I got questions.

I mean, for example, we were wondering why Dana White spent a, I don't know, a long long time being a media surrogate it seemed like for john jones as like this unstoppable destroyer even at times where there was at least some reason to question that or even why he would go so heavily for pound for pound number one yeah like there was like there was like these big long soliloquies about like why john jones was a lot of yeah i mean it was like the hussbola video apparently which i've not seen yet but anyway you get my point like so you add in

that but then you add on the other side tom's dad not exactly Exactly stating super pro UFC talking points, I think is probably... But he's angry that what they've done to his boy by enabling John Jones to be fair. All right. So, I mean, I would say that, like, if you have questions about, how do we say this? Whether there's friction between the Aspinall side of things and the UFC side of things, there's good reason to believe that. I mean, listen, at the end of the day, dude, who are you making these...

If you're Tom Aspinall, who are you making these decisions? for. Because if you felt like you couldn't see and against a pinpoint striker like God, certainly he was on point that night, you could have risked it and then gotten stopped. And now who knows what they would have done with you in terms of getting another title shot? It seems likely that Aspinall would beat just about everywhere else to get one back. But we've talked about this. Just because, like, once you get separated from the title, it's very hard to get back to it, you can do all that and then you can please these other people. And they'll call you a hero and they'll call you warrior. You know what they want?

call you, champion, because you will have lost it at that point. You have to make a decision whose interests do I have to protect here? The ones that make the public and or the other fighters and or the UFC happy or the ones that I feel like are important for my career, you just have to make a choice there. And, you know, you're not going to get unanimity of response as a consequence. Ultimately, I think two things can be true. Tom, the way Tom handled it, at least inside the cage is completely justified. But all of the other things we're talking. about is only adding to the fuel of the opposite point of view of did he you know did he tank here do whatever whatever i think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt but some of this stuff is

piling up long island look where do you weigh in on this you're going to go the tough guy route and say this guy should have kept fighting or what no i don't blame him at all for not fighting i mean you got we saw the replay it was brutal to both eyes too like he's not even complaining about the one that was looked way worse that's a violation yeah i don't blame him at all it was a bummer obviously but I can't complain. Our regular Luke. Yes. Do we owe Cyril Gahn an apology for how much we counted them out,

or did the last five fights and the two title losses? Did those all speak for themselves? Like congratulations, you came out round one, you look like a champion. But like, did we have a right to ultimately give him no chance, which a lot of people were? So it's funny. Early on in Cyril Gons run in UFC, I was really excited about him as a prospect. called it. You said that man will be championed. Yeah, I did. And I lost a lot of faith along the way

after the, excuse me, after the In Ganu fight and then after the, you know, the ones too, the Volkov fight. And I just felt like, okay, Tom's going to be too quick and is going to have an answer for this guy. But gone, when he's on, and there's a question about, you know, there was plenty of reason to doubt gone. However, did God show that our skepticism was a little bit oversold? I think we have to admit that it was. We have to. We didn't see that. Didn't we say, or I said it on different places that I expect it's going to be at least one round of tough for Aspernel to pick up

the timing, the speed, and all that I've gone. We just don't know what would have happened next, but to that degree, if this is the only footage we have and it is, I'm looking really good. He looked mentally tough. He looked like he was dialed in. Like there's some parts of his demeanor in an interviewer in the fight where sometimes

you question if he's everything he needs to be. He looked like he was everything he needed to be there. I think nothing tells the story of how much gone was slept on. Then the odds heading into this fight were what minus 350 for tom and now they're minus 180 that changed quick swallowed the gap yes you got to give dude when we're right about guys it's great but when we're wrong about guys too it's not that i didn't think gone at one point would mature into a guy who could do something like this i just thought he was making enough errors along the way that it wasn't going to

happen and then with the biggest stakes and you know what dean thomas was talking about this that like when he fought john jones gone just wasn't he wasn't ready for that level of uh size of about of the stakes of the grandeur of it and he kind of collapsed in on himself and again i saw a video people comparing tom's takedown failing against gone to johns and i'm like dude they were very different gone switches stance overthrowing and then john just gets under it and then body locks from behind dude you're terrible decision to throw that punch whereas gone didn't throw anything he was just waiting and of course if you're just waiting to stop a takedown it's going to be a lot easier to stop a takedown. But the point is, do I think gone learned a lot from that experience

based on what we saw in round one here? And I wasn't sure he was going to. Yes, he did. We had to be honest. I didn't think he was going to make it close at times. I didn't think he was going to bust up Tom the way that he did. And he absolutely did. That step in left cross. The short one was perfect. The jab was on point. You give him a lot of credit. Still, we don't know what it would look like. So before we talk about the future and when you reschedule this and all of that, Look, it wasn't the referee's fault that this happened. And, look, we have to say, overall, the referees had a great night. They're definitely were internal conversations.

There definitely were internal conversations, whether that's the Association of Boxing Commissions, whether that is the UFC getting involved, about the quickness, not just of warnings, but of points. Points were dropping all night for grabbing the fence, for doing everything. But Luke Thomas, I think the same thing we complain about all the time is still true. I'm not saying UFC has to go to the old pride gloves or whatever. I think they have to enforce eye poking to get it so that it's such a penalty against you, whether that's an initial point, if it's a graze or not, just an initial point. Because how do you retrain the fighters to not do this anymore instead of doing this?

Michael Bisping had a great video about that. He's like, it's easy. Train them to do this with a fist and take away something. Jim Miller posted a video and said, if you take from their purse when they land eyepokes, that will retrain them in training not to do this anymore. Is that accurate in your eyes? either the threat of the point or the purse or something like a legitimate penalty that even if it's just a grazing hey i extended my fingers i put myself in that position i think that you absolutely okay here's just my view and we can decide how you want to talk about it my view is

there are two basic ways to make headway in reducing the amount of i pox number one we should just state as a basic premise there's no way to eliminate them it's not possible you will always have on some level a degree of eye Just like headbutting. Same thing. Just like headbunding. You know, when you're done... But headbutting is, to your point, so infrequent that it's not a scourge on the fight can. In boxing, it's a constant thing. It's like the...

Okay, but it's different in boxing, right? Where you're just so close to each other. And if you have open stance, it's a nightmare in those situations. In MMA, it's not nearly as problematic. But that's what I would like to turn it into. I would like to turn it into something like that. The point I'm trying to make is there's two ways to meaningfully reduce what we have. Number one is the one you're talking about here.

There has to be stronger in force. of penalties. And to the point you raise, Mark Goddard was the MVP of UFC 321. He was not fucking around. And it, show me one instance of him enforcing the rules that demonstrably looked unfair and or made the fight worse. You can't do it. Also, what's the other guy's name? Mitch Richmond. What was the other guy's name? Mitch Rich. Mitch. Mitch. They called him. Rich Mitchell. Something like that. Rich Mitch Mitchell. He also, for that blatant fence grab, he got involved. But that's one. You have to be more. John. on the spot. The referees have decided, not last night, or excuse me, Saturday night.

The referees decided, absolutely, we're going to get involved, but that is an exception to the rule. They have tried to make themselves invisible. Well, congratulations, you're fucking invisible. But BC, they need to fix the gloves. And I know this is a ridiculous kind of point that people make all the time. I did look into this. Can I tell you what I found? Yes. Did you find Trevor Whitman at the end of this? Well, yes and no. There are are a lot of claims made about glove design, and I can tell you that relative, the claims relative to what has been studied to prove or disprove them is very limited. But we do know something, okay? Here's what we know. In 2022, the Association of Ringsside Physicians commissioned a study

to look at UFC, Bellator, and PFL gloves at that time to look at the incident rate of eye pokes. And what they found was that the Bellator power lock glove, which by the way, was introduced in his last year at Bellator, by then promoter Bjorn Rebney, it changed the foam inside. It wasn't just a glove geometry issue, but it curved the gloves. And what they found was that it had a statistically significantly lower incident rate to the point where they now recommended any kind of glove that has curvature around the knuckles. You might note the Pride Glove also, Risen, same.

And there was a lot of side-by-side pictures on the internet of this. And it showed. I'll wrap up, I'll wrap up. Trevor Whitman has a system called the Onyx system, which curves the fingertips to a degree. The point is, the Trevor system, the Pride Gloves, those have not actually been studied. But the Bellator Power Lock Glove has been studied.

And just last month, September of 2025, the Association of Ringsside Physicians, the dominant medical board in the entire sport, re-recommended all right curved gloves to minimize the amount of injuries

it feels like to me you see everyone is either in one camp or the other they want a technological change or a rule change and my attitude is how about a little bit of both to really stomp the shit out

I mean that would be the smart way to do it but don't forget Bjorn had MMA union entanglements at one point so you know they're ever going to approve a glove that he was part of kind of half kidding my larger point is Jim Miller had a great video where he put on the

UFC glove and basically said it's not forcing my fingers out. That's because of, you know, in-trained, Moy-Tai or he called it the response to like the bitch reaction inside of you. But he even said, Luke, you take away the point or the purse, people are automatically going to adjust. It seems like it's that simple. Can we take the step so we can avoid this happening again?

All right, Luke, the future. It's obviously going to depend on how quickly asked when I'll come back. Dana confirmed they want to run it back. They should run it back. Is this not a horrible scenario? What if it gives you another main event? So maybe it's not a horrible scenario. What if they ran this back in, say, March,

and then we're able to promote a John Jones versus Poetan non-title attraction at MS or at the White House in June as the winner fights for the undisputed championship? They could win out if it goes this way. The reason why I bring that up was the little back and forth on Twitter between Pereira and John Jones. Pereira first saying, let's make the heavyweight division great again. He also posted a video of him watching it live. and then John Jones responded with Alex, I'd be down to bring the highest skill level to the White House. I appreciate the respect you showed, let's dance.

Hey, by the way, Tom Asperall one showed respect when he called out John, too, but that wasn't good enough. Luke, do you feel like this result? Because if Tom would have won and called out either Goner Jones, you could wonder whether he could have forced his way into the White House. Does this iPod guarantee in your eyes that we end up seeing Jones prayer at the White House? And could we get it guaranteed on paper that the winner will fight? the winner of Aspinall gone, because then you got a mini tournament with the biggest

names possible. The second part is impossible to say, because if John wins, does he fight again? Does he want to fight Tom Aspinall again? What if they rebook Aspinall gone, let's say for the, what's the January pay-per-view, PLE, whatever we're going to end up calling it, the Paramount era? And what if Aspinall goes in there and just bludgeon's gone? That's why I think you push it off to like March because he's going to need time for that thing to heal.

Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll have to see what the medical timeline looks like. But I just feel like trying to set up a tournament where we're talking about guys actively invested in the beyond. After John just F them? Yeah, I just fuck them after two years. I just think that's so premature. We just can't really get there. It would be nice. I mean, to your point, it would solve a lot of problems.

Would you make of John's trolling putting the duck with the eye patch as his avatar? I mean, listen, I just don't care what he says about anything. What if he decided to talk to you about his 20s, finally? At this point, brother, I don't even care. Okay, okay, okay, that's fine. Yeah. Wild, uh, wild events. You don't see me beating down his door for an interview, do? Wild turn of events. Wow. But now's a good time to remember something else, folks. Put the camera on me. Yeah, now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began.

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Yeah, so good stuff right there. All right, let's keep it going. A lot more to talk about on this fight card. Let's go to topic number two, UFC 321's co-main event, brought an opportunity for the women's strawweight division to start a new chapter or new era. Or will it, depending, I guess, and what happens on Wang against Shevchenko later this month. But instead, it was McKenzie Dern's night fulfilling her potential by claiming that vacant 150-pound title, 115 pound title with a unanimous decision win over Vien. Janjidoba in their rematch.

Luca took years of personal perseverance for Dern through multiple defeats, setbacks, both in and out of the cage. It probably didn't hurt that Jean-Wea Lee vacated her title or opened up this window, but Dern is finally a UFC champion. What was the major difference in your eyes between the version of Dern we saw on Saturday night and the one that had lost four of her last eight heading it? Because it's just her third win in a row. We give her that credit, but it did seem like a different Dern on Saturday, or did it?

I'd say a modestly different version. I somewhat challenge the premise of the question. You know, there is a challenge, and the challenge is if Whaley doesn't give it up, like... There's no way Wei Zhong doesn't beat the fuck out of both of them. True, but like, I guess it's a better question. Would any other champion in strawweight history have had a problem with either one of those two fighters on Saturday? Dude, I think a prime Yawanna beats the fuck out of both of them, too. Some people want Yawanna to get back in there,

38 to try to get that back. I mean, I don't know. I mean, she took a lot of damage towards the end of her career, but we're dunking on Dern here. We're dunking on Dern here because of the division's history reputation. I'm not dunking on her. I'm simply saying like, here's

the problem with that title fight win. Dern did everything she could, I think, given her abilities. She did everything she could, I think, relatively speaking. The jab was there. The job was there. And I thought some of her movement was better as well, in and out of pocket was better.

No defense, though. Much better defense than the first fight no much better defense in the first fight i don't think there was defense but that yeah okay well fair point but at least you had some this time but at the same time it's like it's like dude i hate this kind of shit right where someone wins a ufc title and you're talking about all the reasons why it shouldn't be this way but the reality is if it was if jean wiley was still there just no way she gets it and more to the point bc like you know there's always debates about, like, in a linear reflection of all the champions in a weight class, hey, who's the best one ever in the wake class? It's a standard kind of question, but there's

typically some level of escalation that makes you want to say it. She never had those in-between fights against the former champions. She got knocked out by Androche. And more to the point, you can go back 10 years or something. Look at Yowana's reign and he's like, dude, a prime Yowana would smoke McKenzie Dern. I wouldn't even be very competitive, I don't think. A prime Carolina Kovakov might, too. I don't know about that. That's a little different. But certainly Prime Yuan, I think, would handle. So you were just, maybe a primer rose, too, to a degree. And you just kind of wonder, it's like, do, this division does not appear to be,

the things don't appear to be escalating in that way. Did Dern get better? Yes. Did she deserve to be the winner on Saturday night? No question in my mind. 3, 2, 4, 1 was exactly the right scorecard. So it's not a question of like, given the circumstances, was she deserving? Yes.

And it is nice. You finally have someone, first fighter ever, wins 80-C gold. IBJJF World Championship and a UFC title. I think it was my friend Ovin, Ovin. Was it Ovin, who put this? William St. Pure. No, Guillory Cruz, excuse me. McKenzie Dern is the first woman to win

the IBJJF World Championship, 80CC Gold, and a UFC title. This is cool, man. This is a cool moment. So it's not like she's some, you know, terrible, oh, she can't do anything. Show the wholesome moment, too, before Luke changes this point here. At age 32, daughter, Moa there.

Like, you're a hashtag girl dad, like Colby Bryant, Luke. That's pretty incredible. This is amazing. This is an amazing moment for the both of them. and I certainly applaud the resilient. Dude, you can say one thing about McKenzie Dern. She has been incredibly resilient. That's the story of her winning.

That's the story. The story is not that she's such a powerhouse of skill and ability that she is changing the way we look at the weight class or something or, you know, dominating in historically interesting ways. No, but she fucking has a dog in her that allows her to stay in these relevant positions, keep swinging the axe, and sure enough, she did it long enough, where this finally befell her. She's deserving of this.

I'm just not going to call it historically excellent. I have to say that, too. I mean, it took this great division, which has been the deepest of the women's division since starting this 115 and late 2014. It's on rough, rough times. It's just the accurate truth of where it's at right there. But given the opportunity,

I picked against Durham because I thought ultimately she would make a key mistake or would not fold because physically she's there. She's going to go for it. But I got to give her credit within the, context of this matchup, the rematch with Jandaroba, the jab was there, the poise was there, the boxing was there, and I think

ultimately, Luke, this will, okay, this is a step down from the championship level straw weight fighting we've seen in the past, but I don't think it was as bad as like that Rocky Pennington Buenos Silva fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, no look like elite MMA. No, nothing like that. So I'll give her the credit within the context, do you think this ultimately went her way? Not just because she had the heavier punches, and it was good to see Jason Perillo in her corner

and then vibing and connecting, but Jangerobo had ease, ease taking down Dern with ease, but couldn't do enough in top position to really want to. I, I hated this fight from Verna Jangeroba. I hated. Two snaps up or down? Her perform. Hated it. All you guys with old balls know that one.

You have no idea where that car. Do you have any idea where that reference comes from? Martin? Not a bad guess, but no, no, no. Same network. In living color. Okay. BC.

She got nine takedowns. Okay, so she had a higher than a 50% success rate on 17. She did more with them than Jalton Almeida did. Okay, she did. You got to give her that. He did nothing. Yeah. Yeah, thank you.

She only engaged in hammer fisting rather than any kind of meaningful ground. You ask, like, what McKenzie Dern do right? Whatever else you want to say about her, she seeks offense everywhere. Yes. You put her on your back, it's offensive. right away. She's elbowing. The guard is in play. She's setting up grips. You know what I mean? And you have to play around that on the

feet. She's certainly was doing the one. She's trying to win the fight the whole time. She's trying to win. I guess what I'm saying. Dude, she's got a perseverant dog inside of her and that's why she wins. But Janja Roba, to get that fucking takedown over and over and over again, not throw elbows. And yet

in the clinch standing, throwing elbows, and in other circumstances throwing elbows, not in the most important kind. Dude, Charles Levera, what happens when he starts playing games underneath from guard? Guys either try to get away, but if they stay, they fucking hammer him. Yes. Because they make him pay for that open style.

She did none of that. To the point, BC, this is what drives me nuts. If I went and saw a regional MMA show, and I saw that, that's just regional MMA. You got guys who are new enough where you're just like they don't have the skills yet to do this. She has pulled, this was her 26 professional MMA fight, Blackbell Jiu Jitsu. You're 37 fucking years old You are not gonna be back here If you lose

She showed toughness But that's about it She's not that she's not skilled This is my point This is my point It is fucking Unforgivable At age 37

In a UFC title fight To either not ground and pound Because reasons Oh I don't want to Give up position And lose the fight You fucking lost anyway

She's facing a BJJ expert So that had to be part of the What is the choice here. The conservative game plan she went in sealed her fate. And more to the point, what's the other explanation? I see it enough now where I'm like, do the fighters and their coaches actually think you can get nine takedowns with, I mean, I think like 15 minutes of control time, some absurd amount of control time, but not throw ground and pound and win fights? No submission attempts. No submission attempts. Hello, newsflash. You cannot. You cannot. Either you chose a

conservative game plan that you knew was conservative because that's what you wanted to do, or you thought being conservative was actually like a thing that the rules wouldn't punish. In either case, terrible decision. Terrible. It drove me nuts to watch the shit.

I also think she could have stepped on the gas more. I mean, look, she got to carry out five grand stamina, but this is the championship level. I don't think she was offensive enough. She had some success with her counter striking. I think if she would have stepped on the gas more, yes, she would have taken some big right hands, but she didn't do enough to try to make Dern uncomfortable.

It was more in her eyes about the control time and all of that. So it sucks. Is this going too far? Henry Suhudo celebrating the accomplishments of Dern. McKenzie Dern is the greatest female combat sports athlete of all time. Holly, home on line one, but is there an argument here, Lou? You don't need a dash between all and time unless all time is describing a noun. Okay, but that's not first.

I just want to be. Just for everyone out there, all time only needs the dash in between if you're talking about like all time fighter. He's focused more on the first. fart machines. We know this. So all time, fart box. Fart box. Yeah. So all time only needs the dash in between if it's acting as a modifier in some kind of way for it. Thank you. Community College, Professor. It's not your fault. I need

I need patches on my sleeves. Yeah. Yeah, you do. No, I think that's a little silly. But we're not taking, but shout out to Dern. Shout out to Dern. However, however, however, is she you know, does the history that she represents and like the story and what she's

accomplished, is this interesting and relevant and a big, obviously a very big accomplishment to do all of this. There's simply no question. Was that her mom cage side who ran in the cage after? I saw a video of her mom celebrating, but the one I saw was she was still in the stands. We almost

never hear anything about her. We obviously know a lot about her legendary father, but good to see in that moment right there. Let's talk about what could be next for Dern. Here's McKenzie talking about the landscape of the division. You said now you have a target on your back. You had mentioned Tatiana Suarez as a possible

first challengers. Is that the name you want, or are you just going to let the UFC kind of figure it out? I mean, I don't know how much, say I haven't being a champion now, you know what I mean? I don't know how much my word and my decisions get into play, but I'm here to defend it, so whoever gets sent to me, you know, I'll be ready for it. So I don't know we leave, but I would definitely like to just fight touch. And I think maybe she gets one more fight in, you know, but yeah, I want to get it. I want to have a look.

Long Island Luke and I were talking about this beforehand because there is an argument to make of like how far can Dern Star go now that she's the champion? She's very marketable, etc. I'd love to see her against Tatiana Suarez. The ground battle could be fantastic. They're both very game. It could be a heck of a fight.

If Zhang Wei Loses to Valentin at UFC 322, is there a world where Dern makes a title defense next, let's say it's Suarez, let's say she wins, and then Waley comes back down after a competitive of loss and that's we're all going to favor way lee like we should but is that a big fight will

people care about that well has this woken up some attention and buzz for women's mama or no no no i don't know what the evidence for that would do you think waley comes down with a loss or not that's a more interesting question because if she does i she's a tough fight for anybody um long island luke likes the idea of rose cutting the 115 one more time someone brought that up on my post-fight chat as well. There's some you want to talk as well. Why do you like that one so much? I just feel like Rose is kind of in no man's land at 25.

And like BC was saying, straw weight right now just feels so weak. And there's like, yeah, sure, you could do the Tatiana fight. I just, I have zero interest in that right now. Really? Yeah. Tatiana, her last two fights been very underwhelming. And I just feel like Rose is at least like,

oh, Rose Dern, I could get behind that, you know? I mean, that's a matchup that never happened and could have, maybe should have, you know? Yeah, I mean, yeah golly dude honestly unfortunately the main and co-main were heavyweight and women's straw weight these two divisions are two of the most in disrepair yes and i think some of that was shown to us this was kind of the problem with the event there's no one coming up and i'm not and swaris isn't coming up she just lost a title opportunity but we still physically consider her elite there's like no one else everybody else is a retread everyone else is on drudge who else are we missing here? I'll pull it. I'll pull it.

Lupi Godineas. Lupi Gaudinez. Yeah. She's like a win away. Lupi is an interesting one. I guess Ritchie's got a little bit of us. Dern and Lupi fought like two fights ago. Dern beat her.

So it's like, okay, but that doesn't preclude her from getting a title shot. That's a little different. It's just like why do we, we've already seen it. And it was recent. It was like 2024. Yeah. I don't need to see. Yeah, this is not the highest elite times for this division.

Yeah, I'm looking at the rankings here. Tatiana, Jan Shaanananan, Amanda. Dern, Godinez, Yasmin, Lucindo, I mean... I mean, a lot of those fighters are in their mid-to-late 30s and in Retreadville. Excuse me. Yeah, I think in the end, one of the problems

with 321 was that, you know, again, they were, I think, in both cases, let's get a new champion at women's straw weight. Let's let either the Tom or the Gone era start anew. And instead, yes, you did get a new champion, but in a way that felt like, you know, because something was missing.

And in the main event, something never got started. It was just a problem, you know. Yeah, it is. This is, okay, it is what it is. Let's go to topic number three. Hey, Umar Naraga Metoff, rebounding from that title loss in January to Marab de Valishvili and fully healthy this time. But did he or did he not fully live up to the challenge from UFC CEO Dana White at Thursday's final press conference where he ultimately said if you want this to be a number one contender fight, then dominate and do something to get my attention. part of the reason why Umar was unable to despite a unanimous decision on 30 to 27 scorecards on all three

was because Mario Batista was game-ass shit riding an eight-fight win streak. I have to take my head off to him figuratively because Mario fought well. He had that toe lock cramp thing going for a submission attempt in round one. To hold. But Luke, at the end of the day, did Umar Nur-Namadov do enough against a very difficult opponent to secure the next shot at the winner of Marab Yan 2 in December. Man, this is an interesting one for me. I'd be curious to hear what you guys have to say about this one, especially.

Okay, so in many ways, this went kind of as expected. We said on the pregame preview, Mario Batista, the fans are still bitter at him from the Jose Aldo boringness and blah, blah, blah. But he's a good fighter, very well-schooled, well-rounded, great cardio, has good attitude for always seeking offense and trying to wrestle up. You really got to love his moxie.

But then he was up against someone who was probably technically superior to him and he can be hard to look good against. That's kind of what you got. You got an Umar who was better for sure. He could take down at times. He could pass and from pass he could go to Turtle, Turtle to the back and then, you know, various other sort of control positions. He's a joy to watch.

His grappling is awesome. This fight told me I'm picking Morales. Rob. I'm picking Marab. Yeah, I'm picking Marab. Dude, have you all noticed that Umar and Usman have the exact same skills and strengths, but also the same weakness? They're both very good. They're good. They have, you know, that, that lead like, like, like, flicking front kick. Yeah. That umar has is so nasty. He's not been some high kicks too. No, no, he's got the skill and he can transition to the back. Yes. And then hold it effortlessly, which is why even a guy as good as Bautista had problems, but like Usman, who can do the exact same thing, neither of them

have pop, neither of them. It's not, well, it's not just pop. I think it's a disconnection between the skill set and a finishability. Like, some fighters fill that gap to connect it all like Habib by fighting meme or fighting mean, or if you're Islam, you're explosive. When the moments there, Islam arrives, both brothers are too technically great and don't connect it to when it's time to go, it's time to go. They deal with opposition that are.

hard to hold down, which I can respect. But dude, Habib, people are like, oh, Habib had, you know, also he had a good ground game. What does that mean? Habib had good submissions and violent ground and pound. Like he would make people suffer underneath him with physical punishment. So he's

making you play a different games. He's working on positional advancement. He's working on positional pinning. He's working on ground and pound and subs and they're all working together. That is not what Usman or Umar do at all. Bros. You cannot beat Marab de Walsh Wheely if you cannot hurt him. That's the number one fucking rule. Okay, the one thing I want to counter that, and I think in almost all cases, you're right, and it's been proven.

But injured, with a broken left hand or arm early in that fight, Umar was still competitive and close, which made you want to wonder what does it look like if he's fully healthy? Are you just saying that seeing him fully healthy in this fight against Bautista, I can't. get it there wasn't there was missing that extra gear but i think it's in there and i think sometimes it's dependent upon the challenge coming back at you you're asking me to evaluate things we did not see i'm telling you to evaluate everything that we did okay but what what did we see early against marab like i yeah he's got the skills he has what i'm saying is he has every single skill at such a high level that he has the wrestling accept the ability to hurt people true but i think he's the only

one that could beat Marab without necessarily needing to go through him or submit him. You can't beat Maraub without hurting him. I'm sorry. It can't be done. It's a necessary precondition. Do you question his gas tank? Because this was a high-paced fight, a very high-paced fight. Yes. Dude, Mario's fuck, I keep saying this shit. Mario is good. I got to say it. He's very good. He's good. He's very good. He made at a bear... Yes, was he as good as Umar? No, he's not as good as

but Umar is real good. And he made Umar work for it. That pick of that submission attempt. I know it wasn't like... So this is a toehold. So the reason why this fails is he would have to get more aligned with him. You'll notice that Umar is off at an angle here, right? So he's almost cross-body. That's going to limit it. But like one of the ways you typically see the toehold limited is someone will straighten the leg.

So the straighter the leg is, the harder it is to do. The easier it is to do is when the leg is bent and you can put it right behind their rear end. Sure. But he got off at just an angle to kind of eliminate the pressure. I'm not saying he was close to getting it. I'm just saying it's rare that you see in Armagamatoff in that position. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, that would have tapped a lot of people.

And he dealt with a lot of pain, and I think it messed with him a bit in the second half of that fight, although it was only a three-round fight. Did he get, I know it was a flash knockdown. Did he get knocked down in the second? Yes. What I'm saying is he ate that huge knee in the second. He got out of this submission issue without panicking, without much, you know, issue, although he ever said to endure it.

I don't know. Look, did it, I'm not as confident that he beats Marab. I still believe he's the only one. Well, I don't want to say the only one. a healthy Piotrion in the rematch if he fights at full potential. Okay, the gun to your head,

you got to pick one to beat Marab. I'm still big in Humar. But what I'm also saying is not there yet because I think people are starting to say, okay, well, he's not as perfect as Islam and Habib. No, he's not. He's not the same fighters then.

He's quasi. He's from the same group. He had the same come up and winning world Samba championships under the late Abdulmanap. But just because he's not them and just because like his brother, at least up to this point,

he's not a major finish threat, He's so much closer to being a finished product than every other fighter in the game. Skill-wise, I think it's one of the 10 best fighters in this game. Yes. And once he does, if he can pull it together, he's going to be incredible. But when you look at this division, unless Song Yadong beats Sean O'Malley, which is possible if they book that fight soon, and it's very possible, unless he does because it's fresh blood for Maraub, who else?

Who else are you going to give it? No, Omar earned the opportunity. Are you going to go as a hobby because he's got the streak just to fill time or what? no, no, no. Umar is the guy. But I'm just saying I'm tired of watching these guys win fights because it's not tired. It's a strong word. It is amazing to watch them string together offense in so many dimensions so quickly and so effortlessly. And you can tell they're a handful for basically everybody. Yes. Including for Marab too. They're a handful for Marab. But I'm telling you, if Usman keeps having games where he can't really hurt the opposition, not the ones from Belator,

but the elite ones, Paul Hughes types, it's going to catch up with him. Unless he becomes a more bigger submission threat, too. Now, he's a huge submission threat, but he's got to be a lights out submission threat to not be the striker. But, like, again, look at the submission prowess of Charles Olavera. Yeah. He was good at Jiu-Jitsu, but how it uneven results using it in fights

until he started knuckling people. And then everything got a lot easier for him. Okay, what do you make of people who say Habib's riding him too hard? That this training camp reportedly started in March. I mean, he's in ridiculous shape, Umar. I don't think I'm in any position to tell Habib Jack's shit. Is he over-trading this guy or no?

Can Habib get into him mentally, do you think? Habib is, all looks to be an incredible coach and has the father's system behind him and they have Javier Mendez in the corner. But is this something that's fixable? Because I'm not panicking and I'm not saying he doesn't deserve. Would he benefit from not getting Marab next? He might.

He might actually benefit from that because he doesn't have that masterpiece yet. He doesn't have that breakthrough win where he just slices through. It's got the Sanhaken fight But it doesn't have that one where it's just like Holy shit this is the guy Can that be repaired

I don't fear that Because I think the other areas are so 10 out That I think he'll figure it out And I think he may win it without ever developing that I think he may win the title without doing that Because I think he's that freaking great Yeah I really do

And I'm not blind to the holes in his game We're talking about the holes in his game But is that repairable Can they bridge that gap Can Habib get in his head And change something to get him to be that Habib can't make him anything he's not so we'll see what he is

he's one of my favorite fighters I love humor I mean he dude I'm telling you these guys who can't hurt people his technique is out of control dude I'm with you I'm with you but I'm telling you it looks nice and it is nice so you can do a lot with it can you beat the very best guys in the world with it

I have some doubts about that something's got to give something's got to emerge from that skill set it's not just that the rules favor damage more and so that's important to have it's that the correspondence between winning and the ability to deliver meaningful punishment is so significant that if you're lacking in that you can literally have all these other skills and it actually may not be enough punishment matters significantly i will

say not only do the brothers umar and uspan which i agree with what you said that they lack that finishing gear up to this point they also overlook their opponents a little too much have you noticed this uh lusband definitely does yeah well i think umar slightly did in this fight i mean he told me when i interviewed him that you know i'm going to come in there take him down and submit him and he kind Now, you know, it looked like he was on pace to do that until he got caught in a submission. But I feel like that's becoming a trend. Maybe that can be... That's interesting, right, because he also, he was a, what, a minus 650?

Which was insane. Which, again, and he looked better. Again, he was better. He was better. But did he look 650 better? No, he did not. Let's see some backstage Bushito. You know, I love the stuff between these two guys. Al-Handallelah.

Oh, chondoggy, Kimball. Oh, chindoggy. Right. He was a tough. Thank you, so much. Thank you. You know, this was like Usman's Paul Fuse fight, the first one. You know, where it's like, this guy pushed me to the limit.

You know, I got it. I mean, still 1 30 to 27. That's the thing. Should he have? Should he have one? How did you score that one there, Long Island? You got to give round two to Matt. I gave round two to about two said.

At least one just should have given him. But who controlled the rest of that round after that knee knocked on? He did. Yeah, Umar did. Still, I mean, he made him more work for it. This was also the card, though, where they were really prioritizing damage. And I feel like that was the most damage. in that round. That was a fun fight to watch

though. A real technical thriller, as I like to say, you know. Let's talk about what could be next for Umar if it's not the champion. Here's Umar talking about that. And in terms of your career I think a lot of people want to see you fight for the title again, especially if it's Marab if Maraub wins and wants a quick

turnaround for February before Ramadan, would you be happy with that? Are you hoping to wait for the springtime? Of course, I will be happy. I will be even thankful. And we'll see what's going to next If it's not going to happen before Ramadan, if they will give it to me other fight, maybe with Figuredo or Iman is a hobby, with anybody else,

I will happy to fight because today I become a little better in cage because it's experience. You know, you need to spend a lot of time in the cage to become feeling there like at home you know feel confidence feel arena

feel fans you know and I won't fight I don't have anything else I just have I just have sleep eat train repeat

we don't eat yes it's sleep eating train that's it Luke I mean he is dedicated he's going to figure he's going to figure it out but his Ramadan timeline in March may help him inadvertently

because if Maraub beats Aldo, and let's, not although Jan, and let's say he does it without much hassle, they got to slow down that schedule where he's going to burn himself out. I know he's a freak, but like four times in one year, do you want him coming back in March? I'm starting to talk myself

into the idea that Umar needs the seasoning. He's right. He just told you. There's nothing like, like Luke, you know what? I think Mario Bartista's okay and he's going to bounce back because he needed a fight against a guy this level to show you that he's game and that he can do this. Who would be that name?

If Umar is a lot, if they're going to let, let's say they give Umar a February comeback fight before Ramadan. Who is that name? Is it figurato for you? Like, would you be okay if Zahavi got a title shot? Or would it have to be Song Yudong if he beats O'Malley? Song Yidong if he beats O'Malley. Yeah, for sure.

For sure. You could, I mean, would it be an insult if Zahubi got the title shot right now? I think, I think Zahubi is putting together the kind of resume that you absolutely cannot ignore. I guess what I would submit is he doesn't quite yet. Again, he's been defying the odds this whole time. I don't think he has quite the win yet where he has stamped his ticket to the championship.

He might just need one more, though. He might be their fallback. If Marab wins, would you'd probably want him back in April, May, or June or what have you. Yeah, second quarter probably of 2020. So if that's Ramadan, yeah. So Umar Figurado, that'd be good. That'd be a good one. I mean, Zahabi just the same.

Would they do Zahabri, Umar? they that one also you know like this is the thing about Zahabhi he's earned an opportunity like that it would be interesting so you have to give it to him more to come in that division but a fun turn of events if you like Umar like me but not everybody does and I get that I know they're comparing him to the freaking greatness I mean look who he rubbed shoulders with you know what I mean yes it's a tough it's a tough it's pressure it is huge pressure all right there's also pressure on those who bounced the round ball the ones that play the basketball as Luke Thomas likes to say and the NBA season has tipped off

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There was also a ESPN interview that Brett Okamoto dropped with Islamahev today where he... I saw some clips over here. aggressively wants to pour you at the White House. Here's my response to that. You need to worry about JDM first. But he also said what I don't like is that he said if you want it at 155, you're going to have to pay me. He shouldn't want it at 155.

Neither should the UFC or Topteria. The point is you get the number one versus two part for pound. It's a great matchup, especially if, obviously, if Islam is. You want it at 170? Yeah, to give the Toporia, first of all, Tuporia is the one who's been calling for it, okay, at 170. He has no issue with it, it seems. Topori wants a chance to become like, you know, max how every, like Connor did on the rise.

You want to max how great you can be becoming the first three division champion if Pereira doesn't do it before him. And I think he's, Topori has a better shot. Long Island Luke hates this idea at Walter Wade. He thinks Topori is too small. He is too small. And I'm not saying it has to happen at 55. Yeah, I'm with you. I hate the 70 idea.

Okay, but for it to happen at 55, wouldn't Islam have to lose against JDM? Wouldn't that have to increase the likelihood that then he would then come back? Because he's Jack. Have you seen how Jack to you is right now? Islam, he's put the weight up. Yeah, he looks big. I just. No, dude, if he goes out there and wins this,

he really's not cutting down. Hell no. Hell no. Topori has to defend it again, maybe two more times, but, I mean, there's not a lot of time off between now. You're right. If he's bulking up the right way by adding muscle, like you can't just go back down again to make that happen.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what they're going to do with this one. You care about Hulk Hogan's Real American Wrestling announcing Michael Chandler versus Chad Mendez? Is that the one that airs on Fox Nation? I don't know the real American freestyle. I watched a little bit of that over the weekend. Yeah, are you into that?

Yeah, actually a little bit. I mean, I don't know how big the audience is for that. I have strange preferences, but yeah. Okay, that'll, that just broke. It's going to go down November 29th in Chicago. Thank you very much. That's fun. They got a guy who I follow a wrestling influencer.

You know Mugsy, the wrestling, he wrestled on the card on Saturday. All right. I like wrestling better than BJJ, but I don't really like both all that much, to be fair. Yeah, but what do you like? 70s violent. Yeah, definitely. Let's go to topic number four. Another big fight on the main card was in the heavyweight division.

It wasn't big fun at the end of the day, but Alexander Volkov edging out Jalton Almeida via split decision. And despite the absolutely puzzling game plan of Almeida, which included takedowns, but almost no work from top position or offense at all. Volkov escaped extending his current win streak to five and one over the last six, which does include that lost to gone that no one believes should have been or not many. So Luke

should, just like the question we asked about Umar, should Volkov be in line to face the winner of Aspinall gone, even though this fight sucked and we question Almeda's IQ or understanding of the judging rule set, did Volkov he didn't? This fight sucked. But is Volkov deserving

after coming so close so many times and losing that big number one contender fight, did he secure the big one? There's nothing controversial about this win at all. Nothing. Volkov is the only acceptable answer as to who won that bout. Jelton Almeida has no case at all whatsoever.

So D.C. was right on that hidden microphone when he just like said, this guy can't fight. Did you see that way? Yeah, I did see that. Who could disagree with him? Jelton Almeida, very athletic. Jeltenhammeda good positional jiu-jitsu, good takedowns. He obviously had Volkov just all kinds of bewildered with a takedown attempts with tripping out the post leg and then carrying the lead one.

You know, that was very, very good, but then did absolutely. I need, I need, this is this is what I mean about the Vierner-Jangiroba fight, B.C., which is, do the fighters understand what the rules are? And I'm being serious about this. Jailton, no. Do they understand? Getting a takedown, the judges now look at the, that as okay we're fighting here now we're fighting there you decided to put the fight there

that doesn't mean anything to them anymore it doesn't mean you're just changing the place at which you're now contesting the fight but changing the location of the fight and the ways in which it is contested yeah assuming it's you know even if you're on top doesn't mean anything it doesn't mean anything what means something is what you do after changing that and he did nothing he did nothing he did less than nothing he just sat there and looked around and held positions. He didn't even threaten submissions. Nothing.

Nothing. He held the lockdown one time, I believe, as a consequence. It doesn't matter. The point I'm trying to make is he deserved to lose that fight. The judges got this one right. Penalizing the shit that he was doing is exactly what you want the judges to do. They should be making an example out of performances like that, and they did. Good for Volkov.

By the way, got a sweep and some good ground and pound in the first round. Dude, he put up a fight. Last two rounds were a little inemic in both derives. directions if we're just being honest. However, one guy at least had some attempt, some attempt at damage, and one guy didn't. Give it to the guy who did. I mean, if you fight like Almeida Faw, you're going to

guess all both guys. That's just sweet. And that's what happened, you know? Like, it's unfortunate. And listen, is Volkov in this performance with any of the resiliency he showed? Did he really make you believe he's got a shot against Aspinol or gone? I guess maybe gone, considering they have history, but that gone that we saw look great in that main event, probably not is the answer. He's going to deserve a shot. I always felt like Volkov would get there.

He's got it now. Here's Volkov making his own case on the mic after the fight for that title shot. Do you believe that you should be next after tonight? I know it wasn't like the great performance, not because of me, but who else? I don't know right now. Who else should fight for the title? Maybe Almeida? No. Who? I don't know. Blades. He'll lose already Thomas Penal and maybe he will fight with a guy who loses fight. I don't know, like, it looks like I should be next. Like, we will see what happened with Alex Pereira. Of course, he won't go up to the division.

Like, if he can do anything, but if it will stay the same, I should go next. So I don't know what I will do with the champion yet, but it should be me. Yeah, he needs to sit out and wait for it. I mean, look, the good part about, if there's any good part about the iPok fallout, is that we're a little bit more interested for sure to see Aspinall Gone 2. Let's say you do that early spring, then you do that heavyweight fight for a non-title at the White House and you try to do your best to promote it as the winner fights for the championship. Whether or not that's true, whatever, but the winner of Aspinall Gone versus Volkov late summer,

that's another pay-per-view main event or PLE main event. That's not bad. I mean, Aspernel Volkov, first fight, quick submission. The main event is a dead letter. Be real. Okay, what about in a soccer stadium in English? Okay. You change the atmospherics, and I think it's a slightly different calculus.

Like if Aspiril knocks out Gahn, then there's some buzz there. You can try to build on that there. We'll see if they do whatever. Please be sure. I guess what I'm saying is the first fight, Aspinall took, knocked Volkov down and then submitted them so quickly with the chicken wing there. Do you see the second fight going any different, or do you have to see the Gond rematch first before? I think that the problems have gone, excuse me, the problems of Volkov's takedown defense.

I haven't gone anywhere and Aspinall is going to be able to exploit it. And so, you know, I would say this, Volkov has steadily, brick by brick, worked on his grappling defense. He might be a little harder to submit this time, but I just certainly would not favor it. I wanted to be more of an offensive shootout on the feet. Let's see what we got here. Tom Speed would be a problem. Watch glory, though. Tom Speed would be a damn problem.

Quickly, here's Dana dunking on Almeda, as he should. Even though Jailton got all the takedowns and the troll, he just wasn't doing anything. Yeah. Even Ben Ascreen. Listen, you... Well, Ben Ascreen was like, why is Jailton, like, allergic to throwing punches in there? Was this exactly... Yeah.

You can't win a fight by just laying on top of somebody. That's not how it works. So I was actually very happy with the way the judges scored that fight. Thanks, Dana. I actually agree with you. Yeah, he's right. He's completely right. Let's keep going down the card here.

I can't believe we're saying this. Alexander Rackich has lost four straight fights. And while the topic probably should be about unbeaten 36-year-old Azamette Mersa Kanoff, is he now kind of creeping into contention? I do want to ask you first, where did we go from here with Rackich? What do we do here? Heavyweight. He should go to heavyweight.

I hope more of those heavyweights like Blahovic, eventually Yeri. I'd like to see all those guys bring the speed. And I'm not saying he has to blow up super big, but you're walking. I bet you his walk-around weight is close to 230, even 240. He's fucking bill. He's enormous. Go to heavyweight. I think he's faster than them.

He's more athletic than them. It's a fresh start. If it doesn't work, you can go back down. You don't have to change your body composition in the same kind of way. Go to heavyweight. Because right now, at light heavyweight, when you got guys, we talked about it on the pregame preview, we nailed that one.

The hand speed, the foot speed, the fluidity of movement is just too much for a guy like Rackich, when Merserkanov can do those kinds of things. And, dude, he was just reaching for the takedown. I went back and I watched real closely. His eyes, Rackich's eyes were on the leg. He didn't even see it coming, which is why, you know,

whenever that happens, it lands with extra authority. Dude, he should go to heavyweight. You're not going to have to deal with guys with the speed of Mersikonov, up a way cross. Mursa Kanoff deserves a fight now. I mean, this was a big fight for him. He deserves a big fight now. Yep, he beat, dude, look at the ease of which he beat Rackich, who, again, looked like he was in insane shape. Yes.

Yuri couldn't do that. Uri had to battle back from incredible adversity. Versa Kanoff dispatched him. We mentioned the preliminary feature bout, did Aussie, quillie, uh, Quillen. This can't be a real name. Quillen Saul killed. This, his name looks like the scrabble board.

Like, you know what I mean? When you've got all the pieces handed out, you're like, how the fuck? I'm 10 days notice against, uh, Kelvin Gasseloms look like Nassarat, Hock Prost. Is that the K-O of the year? Because, dude, Hock-Prost was out cold. I mean, this is the year, everyone's been talking about on social media. This is the year of the spinning back elbow. Yes.

So I don't know if it'll win knockout of the year. Lorone Murphy, holy crap. Lorone Murphy's got a great one. But in terms of just, you know, violent authority, this is the CO of the year. And he even said, I saw an interview he did with, I think, UFC on TNT backstage. And he was like, you know, I've never done anything like that before. He does have some stoppage wins with his hands. So he's like, he's used to that.

But he just threw it and it worked. And it was the best one he's ever done. Incredible. Your dad had a big fan of this guy or what? Yeah, you know, we were raving about him. I think the reason it's so fucking intriguing is because he's been a grappler in his contender series fight. He got like 12 takedowns. In one of his UFC fights, he got like 10 takedowns.

So to see him have it with his hands, too, is like, oh, shit, or with his feet, I guess. He looks like he's gnarly. He looks like it was raised in the bush, if you know what I mean? You know what I mean? It does have a very Aussie haircut. Yeah, I hope he resides there now after this victory because that's, you know, that's a good, it's a very warm. Okay, gross. Luke, what the hell is Mateus Ron Betzky made of?

because he was getting pieced up by Ludevoyk Klein in a fight that we all... Lutovit in a fight that we all thought would be a banger. It was almost a one-sided, like, showcase of Klein's skills for a while. Klein also diced to the socks. Yes, but Ron Buchke just doesn't stop Michael Myersing you, and he damn near almost finished him after breaking his ankle and battering him like that scene in misery with James Kahn and Kathy Bates

with that, like, metal piece. You know, this is pretty gnarly for like a sixth grader in the theater with your parents. You know my parents thinking right there. Good Lord. Klein's stock goes up and the CTE of round Butchke is going to be incredible, but we do have to marvel at this action hero. He has a problem, which is that he has a ton of ferocity and he has a real problem with defense and closing the distance. You have to, he has to get hit flush like three times before he'll throw a punch, but then he'll throw like a crazy combo. Yeah, he's obviously got some pretty decent wrestling and he's a physical beast. I mean, there's no question of

about it. But Klein is talented, dude. Klein got outworked, obviously, by Gamrot. You know, Gamrod gave him some real problems, but Gamrod gives most people some real problems. You know, but I think he learned from that one. His take down defense looked better. He was catching Ron Betchki coming in over and over and over again. But as you mentioned, he completely like shatters his ankle in the third round. He got kind of beat up there at the end. But Ron Bechke, I mean, bro, I feel for his, I worry about his life after fighting because he's just giving away quality years of his life fighting this way but he has a dog in him

you can't say otherwise. Lord does he is he in the same way class as Nate the train can we make that fight happen good Lord uh is Nate Landware a 45er yes yeah okay there's our Gody Ward there in the in the apex

gymnasium Luke Walter Walker this was him at the way in showing off his foot fetish dude this guy as a heavyweight half brother of Johnny Walker is fun as shit got another ankle here Luke he's not there yet but these exciting victories

which are very reminiscent of Johnny Walker on a knockout sense with like the jumping knees but this is done differently he's going to be a factor if he keeps this up can he keep this up? I don't know he's only showing us this or is this like McKinzantine area where it's like oh it's a great party trick but yeah again

it's like usually what okay so in the history of MMA what typically happens is people who are like this you know, you know, Mazakazu Iminari was one of those other first guys with these weird grappling entries, catching you in his case with various heel hooks or other forms of leg submissions. And what you find is that eventually those guys, they are gimmicky. And then when they have to, when their game goes up against someone who can stop that,

you're like, okay, what else do you have? And then they usually have nothing. Can't say that about Walter, or Walter Walker? We can't, we don't know the answer to that yet. He throws big strikes, too. He does. He's a big dude. And he's, you know, he's not taking any fucking damage.

But at the same time, we just, we just don't know. We don't know. But, I mean, this thing he's doing is crazy. It's crazy he's able to do this. It would actually be great for the division if he could make a run here, isn't it? Would it not? I mean, they need fresh blood. I can tell you that.

It would be great if he could start. I mean, here's the thing, though. It's not his fault. But the division should be in a place where you don't get a title shot from doing stuff like this. Well, and he's not close to that. But I want to see him beat a Curtis Blades eventually. I mean, well, he's not that far because it's heavyweight. Yeah.

But, like, eventually. there's some Curtis Blades type people, you know, hang around that, like, okay, I'll be curious to see you if the buck stops there, kind of thing. Anybody else you want to highlight on this undercard? We have a loaded show, but I wanted to give me the opportunity. Sorry, let me pull up. Let's go to Long Island here while I pull up my notes. Sorry, I didn't have him. Let's go to Huntington. Nathaniel Wood, Jose Delgado. I thought that was a fun-ass fight. It was probably a robbery. I don't think Nathan would really deserve. I didn't like Wood by decision there. I thought Delgado won, but then everyone assured me on social media that if you look closely, would one. Fair enough. I mean, it was close. the Hamdi Abdul Wahab Chris Barnett fight was terrible was buns yeah and we'll see some of those buns in my shit

Mitch Raposo had a nice win over Azat Maxim who couldn't get much done Ikramalaskarov by the way underperforming in my judgment against Park John Young Park John Yon Bobib needs to separate that he doesn't need that on his lineage you know on his legs who coach Habib oh that's right because now they're working together yes yeah fair enough but to me you had some interesting you had to As you mentioned, the Jose Miguel Delgado loser in that case,

I thought he performed really well. He didn't miss weight, though. He missed away by 47. Yeah, this does take some shine off of it. All right, let's just fast forward here to topic number five. We didn't preview this, and I really didn't love the- It wasn't on my radar super hard. Yeah, I didn't love the fight on paper, but I got to be honest.

A lot of that is because of the hate people have for DeZone promising they're going to get rid of pay-per-view again and then coming back and putting fights like this, which shouldn't be a pay-per-view in the States. it was Joseph Parker, former heavyweight title holder who's on the midst of a run right now that has given him six consecutive victories or was on that run over the likes of Deonté Wilder, Jean-Gilet, Martin Bacoli.

It looked as if he had done enough to eventually secure a shot at Alexander Ousek's undisputed title. The question was like, how long would he have to wait? Well, he chose to stay busy instead against unbeaten more of a wild man on the rise up, but now he's a contender for sure and won Fabio Wardley.

This turned into an all-action back-and-forth fight, Wardley hurting Parker in the second round. But then we had the big crazy moment there down the stretch in round 11. So at the end of round 10, by the way, Parker looked kind of weary. He was getting beat up. But in round 11, Wardley put it on him. A referee Howard Foster,

the same guy who infamously stopped the first Carl Frotch George Groves fight, which did set up that legendary rematch in front of 80K. Which he never stops talking about. But, you know, he's known for stuff like this. Is there any way to justify what he did? Parker was taking a lot of unanswered shots, but was moving, was defending, and was trying to mount offense back. But the problem is, like, the moment that he stopped it,

was he justified at all in the sequences leading up to that? So I didn't watch it live. And then my social media feed was filled with terrible stoppage. Oh, my God. Let's show Dan Rayfield's tweet, if you don't mind. Yeah. Parker was up 98, 92, 96, 94, 95, 95, so it would have been a majority of decision

at the time of the shitty stoppage by the usually terrible Howard Foster who has fucked up fights for decades. Bro, I tell you what about Dan Rayfield? He doesn't give a shit. No, he's independent now, so he's just telling it like it is, you know, he's on a subset. He will absolutely lay it on anybody.

Straight up, now tell me, wow. So I saw tweets like that and I was like, and then also our friend Dan Canobio. Yes. He was lambat. So I went back and I watched it. Can I be honest about this?

Yeah. I'm not saying it's a good stoppage. I'm not saying that. It is a shitty stop. In the moment, like the moment that he stopped, it sucks. No, I disagree a little bit. Okay. It's a, it's not a good stoppage.

I guess I don't have the same venom that I saw within the boxing community for it. I'll tell you why. So basically in the last moments of the fight before the stoppage happens, Wardley is bombing on him. And you can see Parker to your point moving. Yeah. And then there's one instance where Parker really starts firing back and then they kind of clinch in the center of the ring.

And then they separate again and then Wardley goes right back to putting it on him. And that is when the referee steps in. Now, in my mind, he still stepped in too early. However, if you just follow that logic where you're trying to, because what you want to see him is see him move defensively and then fire back. It's actually what you're looking for. He was eating too many clean ones. He really was.

eating too many clean ones, and then after firing back, he goes right back to getting bombed on. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't think it's a horrible stoppage. This guy's hard to defend normally, obviously. But sometimes referees in their mind when they see someone who's trying to be a warrior but is getting, getting hit, they say, okay, one more clean one, one. Right. And then that one clean one did come, but he didn't stop it right then.

So that's really the problem. There was that sort of pause. Yes. And then stop it. Fair, fair. but if you're Parker you do have to look at that critically and say like I was in a position where I was hurt floundering yes there was some defense yes there was some head movement there were a lot of unanswered shots so it was it was a shocking amount of unanswered punches it was just a little bit earlier I don't think there would have been this outrage and then when you add on that Parker was on ahead on the scorecards and he was taking a gamble taking this fight you know you could kind of blow up his position right now you tell me about Fabio Wardley so I was looking at his record he has the draw he had a split decision draw or split draw excuse me against Frazier Clark, then rematches him and beats him in the first round. And that somehow became a really big fight over there. Like a lot of people were behind that fight and he bombed on him and

looked great. I called some of his early fights on DeZone and he didn't, he didn't blow me away and he didn't blow a lot of people away, but he's tough. He's now he knows how to deliver, he knows how to deliver his offense now. Like, he has a pretty good arsenal of power shots, not a classic boxer, but a fun action fighter. Dude, he brought it from the jump. Yes, he was losing and he should have been losing on the scorecards, but he had big moments in this fight. He had Parker hurt at the end of round two. He almost had him out of there at the end of round 10. So some of that does support at least the area of time of the stoppage.

You just can't support the exact second that it was stopped. Once again, these commissions will never let you know what the referee is thinking. So we can't hear him say, hey, I saw his eyes roll back at his head or something like that. Exactly. Which could have told you something. But we don't know because they never tell us anything. All right, let's hear from Joseph Parker. He gave a very classy response to how it all broke down.

You know what? I'm good. Congratulations. in February order for a tough phase warrior. And at the end of the fight, I fall I was fine, but listen, I'm not the ref, you know, I'm not the one to try to

fight until, everything's up. We went up there, we both went up there and give it our best, and he won't fight, so he's a good hand. So there's an... That's a professional right there. It is. And there's an argument to be made that now you have a rematch, if you can book it, that people would care about. And maybe this

doesn't kill Parker because of Ussick wasn't going to fight him anyway. Which he said he didn't want to. Yeah, then maybe this gives him time to rematch and win. The problem is now Wardley's promoter Frank Warren, maybe rightfully so, is now tweeting out that the next fight's going to be Wardley against Ousek. And if you're Worley, you're on... Who promotes Parker?

I believe also Frank Warren. Why wouldn't he want the rematch? I mean, I guess why you would want... You're trying to pump your guy into it. I'm trying to bring the title to your side. But here's Wardley talking about that, and I don't think he's earned it, but yet he blew away Fraser Clark after that hiccup. And any time you beat Joseph Parker at this

point you got to give him credit he didn't he didn't stop the fight is what i'm saying wordly won it so look at what he's trying to do now yeah it's a wild one when you uh when he piece it all together like that but look i'm i'm the next one up i'm the next one at it i've got big broad shoulders so that's fine by me i'll carry all the pressure there's no problem um but i'm something different i think we've thrown enough of the kind of not to say any of those guys are similar or the normal usual whichever else but they all come from similar background similar ways of doing things and I come from a different school or a non-school, however you want to call it.

So, look, we're throwing all the kind of the usual guys at him, our top dogs and whatever. So, yeah, look, let me have a crap with something different. I mean, he made a good argument for himself, considering that Ussick doesn't want to fight Otama right now, and it is early for Atama. It's too early for Moses. And, like, neither, you know, Joshua's not ready.

It's Joshua might not come back until next year, he's saying now. Fury only wants to come back. for a super big one, but no one wants to see a third Fury fight right now without Fury doing other things first. Yeah, I can't believe I'm saying this, but yeah, even though Joseph Parker, I didn't like the stoppage, he took the risk by doing

this fight, you know what I mean, ultimately. So I don't know if there's a rematch clause, I'm not sure. Is there anyone in boxing who doesn't hate the stoppage? No, because the stoppage did suck. Yeah, well, it was not a good stoppage, but I found the, I guess usually when I see these kinds of reactions, and then I watch the fight, I'm like, oh, yeah, right. This one I was like,

okay, I mean, it wasn't great, but like, I think some of the outrage is a little bit over the top. The thing about Joseph Parker is, as good as he is, and he did have a world title, he lost it to Anthony Joshua and their unification. I've just never seen, and he had a nice comeback year recently with those wins. I've never seen him really step up

and win that big one convincing. Like, really just, you know, knock the guy out of him. These are very good elite wins, and he's compiled a certain amount of elite wins. And elite losses, and he's still only 33, even though he's been around forever. He just, I don't know what he, could have done against usick is really what i'm trying to say yeah he's not he's not beating us

and while he's way more skilled than worldly fabio's like saying look i got a different style different attitude different background could it still end with a usick knockout it probably could but it'd be a different kind of entertaining fight yeah i don't know i never thought we'd be in the spy i never thought that result was going to happen but that atmosphere is contagious it's incredible to watch that i wish we could have that in the states and i can't believe they made this a pay-per-view but that's i can't believe how dead boxing is it's i'm telling you honestly this is the deadest it's been in my life they've murdered my boy i mean what happened here it's it's finished man i mean it's not finished for good but there's it's it almost feels like it's like purposely being

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Monthly rate on the total base 5G unlimited plan for new subscribers applies only to the monthly rate for your plan. Additional terms apply. Please see the website for more details. That's enough for our five topics. Before we poke through the kernels of my Shiite, though, we did offer you like we do every Sunday night at morning combat on IG and X. for an opportunity to get your questions heard.

Any names you're going to predict that we're going to see, like a man in his cat or... Flannels and Jits? Oh, yeah, we love that guy. This one's called DMs, from donks. I just want to point out we got rid of the ejaculating donkey, but...

It keeps returning. The fans demanded we return it, so here we are. Here's the first one from Logan N. No doll. No digity. I'd like to bag it up, Logan. Should a point be taken for excessive stalling, the Pride yellow card? This is a tough one.

This is a tough one. I wish we had a Pride system where, to your point, you don't necessarily lose the position, but they flash the yellow card. And I think if you get too, I forget exactly how Pride did it, but it was two yellows in a red, and then you lose points. And you'd also lose a portion of your purse on the yellows. But they don't make enough for me to justify doing that, typically speaking. So I don't think that's it would be down with that.

get a little cattle prod where you can just, you know, Apollo hook them out of the cage? I would say this. I am, you, we've been on this show. Me personally, I've been very vocal about the need to, to take points quicker on fouls. Stalling is a little harder to do this on. And the reason why BC is because stalling can very easily be the fault of two people. And so disentangling who is at fault is a little bit of a problem for me. That's right.

You need a court appointed attorney. So, you know, mitigate the split a little. So how did the marriage become sexless? That takes two people. It takes two. Two are not fucking. Otherwise, something bad happens. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is I'm not opposed to the idea on this, but unlike

I poke's, unlike ball kicks, I think they should be much more judicious. Yeah, judicious ball kicks are the way to go. No, seriously, you can start enforcing the rules officials, and they did that on Saturday, and we like that. You can continue it. I don't want a society with cameras on every street corner, but it's coming. It's here. It's here.

Palantir knows what we're doing. Oh, yeah, that guy. Wow. Let's go to the next question. This one's from at Fahey underscore Liam. Another boy named Liam. Not an underscore, period. Overscore, in between score.

Fahey, period. Liam, will there be an addition of weight classes in the next decade or will UFC stick with what they are used to? If there is a change, it would probably be the 165, right? If there is a change. That would be one. The other one would be you could see the UFC go to Adam. weight on the women's side not enough

depth we're seeing that play out uh there's enough there might be more depth at atom weight than there is at 35 with the I don't know how true that is they'd have to strip mine what they did like the let so when they created the women's division they basically stripped mine in victa

they'd have to do the same kind of thing there needs to be a new revolution for women's a new spark that that put so many people in the gym right there needs to be one of them um yeah women's heavyweight well that's your idea Someone was asking me, like, why don't they do 35 to 55? I'm like, that's the Brian Campbell special right there.

I just love women, and I want them to have equal rights. You like the big women. All right, the next point of questioning here from V. Sanchez underscore 88. In terms of poor decision-making in M.MA, which we see a lot on the highest level. Oh, Johnny Walker's got to be on there. Who is on your Dongk, Mount, your Mount Dunkmore is Big Ang. I'm sorry. Johnny Walker, for sure.

Michelle Pornada. What do you think, Long Island? Who donks it up? I'm just thinking of more like one-off instances, like Andre Sukumtoth against Sean O'Malley when like Sean O'Malley's leg was broken and didn't make him stand on. What did what did what did what did Sean O'Malley call Sukumtot?

Soccer mom, that's right. I was actually just going to call him that but I thought I'd try and show him the respect. Those are two good ones. I mean, could you put Nico Montano in there for somehow getting a title and then having the worst title reign imaginable. Also, Jermaine Durandumee had an amazing career but knowing

you had to fight Cyborg if you beat Holly, then you beat Holly and not a good fight and then immediately decide you're not going to fight Cyborg didn't love that. I feel like Iron Lady was closer to beating Amanda in the rematch than she realized. Oh, she gave Amanda a tough ass fight in the rematch. Dude, Germain Demandah Remy is amazing.

But that moment not. She was just active more, because she was more elite in her later years than she was in her you know sort of age prime she had put it all together she didn't fight enough you know she was busy she was the police officer damn right she was i think she still is yeah in the in the netherlands um what was the question again all-time donks the rude conversation it really is but people make big dunk mistakes and big moments constantly yeah it's part of it i mean stephen bonner had some dunk moments in big fights rest in peace rest in peace you know what i'm saying yeah he did he definitely did um i'd have to

about it but these are some decent answers to start certainly johnny walker's the you know yeah definitely chief among them uh let's go to the next question from the people this one's from appy fat athon that's appy that's the co-dunk of the year he's they're letting him do this from jail yes uh he says are acoustic songs by hard rock groups overrated i'm thinking about patience by guns and roses uh just breathe that's creed right or no that's that's that's pearl jam i'm sorry what am i thinking of uh that's the Pearl Jam. Oh, that's off of the what's that album called? I want to say it's on no code? No, no. Does it on yield? It's on Backspacer.

All right. That one's great. No, Backspacer's 0.9. That's way too late. It's on the one with unthought known. All right. There you go. Yeah, I think that's back. I'd make an exception for more than words from extreme. So Luke basically what he's saying is the acoustic The acoustic power ballad from a badass band. I had metal friends growing up who were like, we love ACDC because they don't ever do that there's no room in life for that obviously you've got a little tenderness in your heart you can get down for a metal band doing a nice acoustic love song well I mean how do we feel about for example I mean patience is probably number one on the list okay okay but let's let's let's try us a little bit with a wider scope here I saw both Allison chains and Nirvana do MTV unplug yes would that count I mean that's that's are kind of covers that's acousticizing acousticizing your own badass material but We're talking about writing one.

What do you think, Long Island? I brought up to BC pre-show Nutshell by Allison Chains, I feel like is an example of that. Like a slower acoustic music song. But it's not like that's a love song or anything. You know what I mean? But it's like,

you know, it's not really there like I've seen G&R enough times and heard them play that but doesn't feel like it's played out for the audience when I'm there. And I'm not even a big G&R guy. I just go with my,

because my wife loves him. Wow, Mrs. Thomas. All right. She loves guns and roses. Did she like Chinese democracy when it finally came out? I haven't asked her about that one, but she's big on. You know, use your illusion one and two.

Do you know my dad waited out in line after midnight at the local strawberries on a Sunday night to get that, those two albums? I can tell you that my dad did not. Okay. Yeah, I can tell you that my dad did not. My dad has done that for a few pivotal moments. He also had the first rage CD before anyone at school. I'll give him that credit. How old is your dad?

He's 22 years older than me, so he just turned the age 70 in September. Jesus. He had you when he was 22? Yeah, my sister when he was 20, married at 18. Wow. What? Yep. Boy, speaking of head and I want to hear something crazier. Wow.

Me and D.C.'s parents are the same age. That's kind of wild. Are you two brothers? We might be. Were your parents swingers with each other? You know, I always felt a little half Australian, to be fair with you. Do we have more questions from our people here, from our peepholes? This is from Pat McCann 34. I never heard of this guy, you know? Sure.

All right. Favorite Halloween memory? memory um man i'll tell you what when your kids were trick or treating let me ask you a question when your kids were trick or treating did your parents sorry did you rather did you make them make their own no no you let them just buy yeah whatever help me i help them with like can i tell you the a bit of trauma that i have yes my mom was you my mom was like not she didn't have the idea that you couldn't buy anything. She wasn't big into like Roy Rogers coupons or anything like that. No, no, no.

But she basically made me make my own costumes every year. So every year I had a fucked up costume. Yeah, that's... I was like, what the fuck, man? I never had a good costume because I didn't know what... What do you think? I'm Tim Gunn? I can just fucking fabricate some shit.

So with my daughter, we made her fabricate some stuff. But in general, I just bought her stuff. So I'll tell you, my favorite Halloween memories are fucking with her. You're like going out with her. Yeah. Well, they should be, by the way, when you get to... to that point. Because I always had shitty-ass costumes.

I had more shitty Halloween than not. Like, there was this third grade party where everyone was going to wear a costume at Amanda Curran's house for a birthday. And they played the thriller record, by the way, over and over and over. That's where we were in life at that point. And I was the only one that bought a costume at like Ames. I bought a GoBots costume. And everybody else had like handmade ones that their parents made for them.

And I felt like the poor white trash game. I was hiding in the corner. I always had costumes where people had to ask me what the fuck I was. Yeah, that's not fun either. you just, I just looked like shit the whole time. So, I mean, I'm not saying I had bad Halloween's, I still got a bunch of candy and in the end, like, that's all that really matters, I suppose.

But, like, golly, dude, I have much more fun with my daughter figuring out what she's going to wear and helping her do it. All right, the worst things to get besides your dad's coupons or the times they give you, like, a nickel. And you're like, come on. I had a dentist neighbor one time he used to give us toothbrushes. That's bad.

Popcorn balls really bad. Somehow my voice vows just shows a suck. Let me tell you what I don't want. I don't want your homemade fucking treats. Yes. I don't want your corn. I don't want your, what are those butterscott, Mary Jane's? I mean, I want a different kind of marriage. The Neko wafers, remember those?

I'll take those, but Mary Jane's, come on. It's so hard you break your teeth right into those. I think I just threw those in the garbage. If someone's giving you those, what are those old, those, those butterscotch, those, uh, Wothers. O'Herthers original? Oh, Wothers'Oleys, come on, you know, give me the candy bar. Listen, if I have a bag of candy and I got like, if I've got like one, if I've got one, if I've got one Werther's original, I think that's okay.

It's like, but when multiple houses are just don't get it up, that's no fun. My parents always checked it for, you know, razor blades. So they had to open every piece. Oh, your parents are those kinds of people? They were big into the satanic panic. I mean, the razor blade would have been fine. I would have just spit it out. No, you know what you actually do have to worry about is not the razor blades.

It's the weed gummies. Oh, yes. Giving those out the kids? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. All right. I think that wraps up our questions, right? Tell me, tell me.

Yeah. All right, we have one more segment from thank you to the people. Oh, yeah, the fans, morning combat at gmail.com, but you already knew that if you want to reach us. Friday show, we're coming back with fan subs and dead wrongs. Very pedantic of us. So reach out and touch someone, preferably, Mikey, with pictures of you touching.

Okay, that went too far. Our final fan segment is for you, the fans. By me, it's a gift. I scoured the globe for the internet, for the highs and lows, the good, the bad. You have talked very high, highly, about this week's batch. Well, some people were upset about the amount of fecal content lately.

Dude, last week was like, here's this woman getting farted on by a hundred people in a mariachi band. I'm trying to make this segment great again. Have you seen this shit? Who? Ah, yeah, somebody's taking a shot. Hey, UFC 321 was Unabudabi and Chris Barnett was there to show his ass. I never thought a fighter needed a belt more. Dude.

Long layoff, we all wanted to see this guy. He got beat up. The fight sucked. I feel like this is a great representation of the state of heavyweight. Dude, what, how, what happened here? You should be better than this, shouldn't you? Can you tighten them? What happened here?

I don't know. Did the waistband go to this? I'd rather see Mike Tyson's ass in the Netflix locker room over there. I mean, here's the thing. Like, it came down, for example, when Sauru Kian was fighting Olavera. Remember that? Yes. Actually, he kind of ended up getting out of the joke by virtue of that.

So it does happen. and I just don't, listen, do you know how great my day is when I don't have to see another man's ass? Yeah, that's, there's no point. Unless they're tatted up, then you're all about it. Well, that's a little different. But there's no day where I'm like, oh, I get to look at the buttocks of another man

and all of a sudden it's better. It's never better. It's always worse. Hey, watch the UFC weigh in closely. Usman de Maghamedov, PFL champion. Look at the warm greeting from the UFC staff. That's Usman right there. There's Dana.

Watch Bro Hunter. Coming up. Yeah, get a little bit. Dude, is it just me or is Hunter Campbell with that mustache starting to look like Wario? Yeah, he started to look like a villain from a cartoon. It feels inevitable, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. I mean, everyone knows.

Guys, guys, none of this is unpredictable. PFL will not make it, and eventually he'll be over there. Will both brothers be UFC champions before it's said and done? No. Will one? Yes. You're going to Osmond out lightweight. Aren't you, mother ever?

I didn't say anything. Okay, all right. Luke, we also saw some Nirmaga medoff hijinks when Habibis. got after former teammate DC and like people always be messing with DC The Russians love fucking with DC It's and not just the Russians I guess the Brazilians do too

Yes But it's great to see They love fucking with him Luke we never can defend the MMA media Typically right Why would you? Here's another reason why How many times a week do you squat

And what's your squat and wait What do you squat? Oh my God I do like a lot of repetitions of squats But not too heavy She answered it? When I get in fight camp i go like heavier but usually it's like for more head to every single day i squats monday

through saturday um and like 60 pounds 70 pounds i do like sumo squats um a lot of like repetitions 24 of 20 that went on pretty long but uh wow what a question i did ask uh taitui vasa that time you know you're going to take gregg hardy up on your offer to bang tweet right it's one of the greatest moments in media day history didn't you didn't you ask

Algeman Sterling about getting dick down that's right did you do that as well you know I was like you got hung up on by the Charlos you got hung up on by

Mike Perry I got hung up by Tyson Fury I got I don't get those I just get people who say no at the front end and just don't ever talk to me

wow I did so so you remember that weird moment between Aspinol and Nina when he asked her that weird question about getting

digitized let's say about going third base with a fighter here's johnny walker at least nina knows who finger tom aspinall yes it was cyril gone um look that whole nina aspinall weirdness kind of reminded me of this video um excuse me could you be in this video real quick to make my ex-boyfriend jealous sure okay okay thank you um do you could finger me too for the video Yeah Pop the So that dude is a comedian That dude is a comedian

That dude is a comedian I don't know his name I think it's like I forget it But speaking of Aspinall He talked a lot about his hog this week Here's Aspinall with Eddie Hall In the gym

Think of some more names for yourself I'm very sensitive to nicknames I don't really like him personally A couple of people who tried to call me The Honey Badger What about tripod? Does that mean you got a big penis? Yes

That's not me. That's like somebody else. No, no, it's untrue. It's untrue, mate. Fair enough. Well, I'll like it on his mind. See, he wouldn't lie. He's not being honest.

He's not going to get erect wrestling with Hasbullah. Well, he didn't defend his dong when asked at Media Day either. Obviously, you famously once said that you refused to get into a dick measuring contest with Sergey Pavlovich. Is that something you think you'd be interested in with Cyril or no? I think I'm fighting a losing battle with that one, unfortunately. Okay. I kind of like this guy now. I think he would say the same after watching the Jones Hasbullah video. All right, let's see.

We're not there yet, but be careful, Luke, who you let when you're at these theme parks and your kid wants to hug the mask up, you know what I'm saying? You don't know who's behind. They're doing weird things. Look at this guy working his ass on the Shrek pole. Is that Shrek? Scratching his butthole? I mean, is that part of the gimmick or what?

Dude. Where is a drive-by-your-old? shooter when you need one. Well, you got to be careful on the roadways, Luke, because anything can break out. Let's, let's see the cam on this motorcycle. With the torta running after him. That suspiciously looked like Columbia because they have a lot of yellow bridges there. I don't think it was AI, although I get sent-held often. You know this, okay?

Scooters are also dangerous. Well done. You ready for this one? Oh, no, not that one. Wait, wait, wait. Did I give, no, yeah, number, number. Looks like six is missing. Oh, it's missing, sorry.

Scooters are dangerous, though. Hey, let's keep it going. I do like scooters. I get the lime scooters in D.C. Yeah. They're kind of fun. Yeah, you have an e-bike as well. Your sound bite of the week comes from Kendrick Perkins.

Don't you besmirch my e-bike. Live on ESPN. Here it is, Luke. Well done. You ready for this one? Oh, God. What you need I'll be prophine for when you can have a perk? Uh, I'll lean back.

Why is he on TV? Dude, that was, that was a bold move. Why is he on TV? All right, Luke, it's time to rate that tat. One to ten, ten is a great tattoo. Zero. sucks. Okay, let's start off. You said one to ten, then told me I could rate it zero. Uh, if it sucks. This is a Brazilian soccer fan getting his home team's uniform. I saw

this. For life. This is a negative eight billion out of ten. Okay. It's the worst fucking idea imaginable. Okay, the idea is a minus 86, but what about the execution? You give it like a four? I mean, it's decently saturated, I suppose. But it doesn't look like a t-shirt. You just look like you, the worst fucking tattoo imaginable. Okay, well, let's grade this next one. If you're a big Dustin Porier fan, then you'd probably get this one, Luke, of his hot sauce bottle. Six, six and a half, six and a half.

You don't hate it, though. Notice you don't hate it. It's actually, well, given the artistic style that it is, it's decently executed. All right, L.A. Doyers are in the World Series, Luke, check out this guy's head. Dodgers on the dome, brother. Look at Raiders on the top

Yeah, I could How many times has he been thrown out of the stadium for fistfighting? But look, the execution, the quality of the marksmanship? It's, the line work is kind of shit And it's terrible placement Four. Okay, right, take that Dodgers. Luke, let's get into John Jones and has Bula.

First, we'll watch how it started. Tuki wanted to watch Shoheyotani because everyone at school was talking about him. And then he struck out like three fucking times in the game I showed him. What a fraud. first you had a little living room action with his brother and John John

This is the video This is the setup video Is he kicking him in the fucking head showgirls style? They just fought the whole time And then he does like the Mike Tyson bit Where he picks him up like a child Is he gonna throw him in the garbage or something So people were like okay

Was that Kid Rocks like Was that Joey C? Yeah RIP in the shoebox Now look that's weird enough Okay it got real weird Okay, this is the one that apparently everyone's talking about? Just talking about shaft.

John Jones's shaft. Here we go, Luke. I don't see anything. Okay. I need a joke you something. Tell husband a lot. Boner police have arrived. Luke, your verdict?

He might be guilty as charged. Oh, my God. What the, Luke? What is that? I better lock him up. I don't know what the... Yo, look, yo, look, he's nodding. Look, look.

He's like, I know. I get it. I get it. He had a has boner, dude. Yeah, he did. Wow, okay. All right, here's your catch of the week in baseball. That's something.

Oh, sweet chin music, huh? Yeah. Wow. Maybe get your hands up, guy. Okay, this week in football, Luke, first. The Bud Crawford World Tour is fun. Here's him at a Packer's tailgate. I like the number.

420. I know it's 42 at all I'm saying. Okay, that's kind of cool. That's fucking great. Showing up to a Packer's tailgate and playing with a, I guess that's mariachi-ish kind of music. Cam Newton was at a college football game for ESPN. he raced the mascots, and then it almost got physical.

Tell me if you... Who did? Cam Newton. Oh, Cam Newton. Why does Cam Newton dress like a George Washington clone from the 1700? Look at his face. Come up. He's like, don't fuck with me.

That was interesting. Okay. Cam Newton's interesting, but weird. You don't usually say good hands on a referee, but watch this interception here. Oh, nice catch. Oh. He picked him off. What is he supposed to do?

Get out of the way, right? That's what he's supposed to do. Yeah, I'm not sure what happens when the referee catches the fucking ball. I've never seen that. Luke, you also know what happens when we go to regional MMA, right? Anything can happen.

Watch this cameraman closely. Oh, oh, I have a spill, fella. Got to get seat belted in next time. Let's go to these women fighting. Watch this front kick. That's a round. House, but still, yeah, or round kick anyway. Delivered straight

up now, tell me, wow. Let's head to some fat boxers. You sent me this one, Luke, an incredible piece of business here. Oh, this is great. Did I said this time? Oh, yes, I did. He's teabagging.

Yes, he is. He's tea bagging. John, put his hudel down. This is getting weird. Please. Luke, let's go to the ice. I never saw this before in a kid's game. Maybe I don't watch enough youth hockey, but this turned into a real one.

Is that my imagination, or am I reading the Cyrillic alphabet in the background? In which case, this is Russia or some version of it. Yeah, they get after it. Look at this. Dude, these kids are like seven and they're fucking brawling like it's Lord of the Fly. Just like they're heroes, okay? Look at the referee. Look at the referee. Yeah, they're just like, yeah, it happens all the time. Let them figure it out. We just facilitate youth violence. Union contract says we must watch from a distance

Okay Luke new segment alert Okay you rate that tat 1 to 10 now a new one called rate that shitter 1 to 10 on 10 being I want to shit there This might be the greatest segment we've got come up with her here we go Here we go number one poop with a view where you going Solid 8 Yeah that is a solid A that's a great view wow All right let's go out to the high seas here Luke

The boat toilet You don't have to deal with it it's gone And the piranhas get it, you know? Five. Okay, all right, all right. You ever hear of a mouth toilet, Luke? Hold on quick, Bisi. We're missing another one here.

You're missing the mouth toilet? I mean, are you kidding me? We're missing C. I think Mikey hit you up about it. Yeah, and I responded with the video. Can we just take a dump in your mouth instead? Here's our final one, Luke. I don't know what model car this is, but I think the Thomas has have an upgrade coming.

Well, it's a 10 out of 10 right here. I mean, this is. Where does it go, though? Oh, but this is AI? Yeah, I got AI, but I had to show you. Yeah. That's a 10 out of 10. That's the future, right?

AI understands me. It really does. All right, let's see if you understand. Celine, she's back, Luke. Your thoughts. Imagine living with her. You never know what you're touching. I'm going to find this person.

Are we getting AIed in these videos, or is this real? I don't understand why she has to eat the weirdest things in the house. Yeah, I hope she gets a little weird. The coffee milk, yeah, and then you're going to eat. Dude, she eats furniture. If she wants to go on, only fans, we'd subscribe as a show. Yeah, eat the TV. Eat the TV.

It's content. Yeah, it's content. She's just so fucking weird. You're awful. You're an awful person. Okay. Luke, do you ever wonder what the difference is between me and Cona McGregor? $600 million?

This video. Some of you guys do cocaine. I do guzzies. Woo! Feel great. the guy died later after he's got a life expectancy of Thursday all right let's shut it down with a round of would you eat Luke it's a simple yes or a no first new Costco hack breaking through so you ripped the cheese off the pizza which by

the way their pizzas are very cheesy I've noticed very cheesy you wrap the the glizzy and the cheese put it back in the bun yes you going for that would you yes I would damn right I would that's genius right there's actually Wow. All right. Let's go to the next one. New morning breakfast idea for Tooks. Baja blast. Shit your fucking pants. I mean, does a bear shit in the woods? Of course I'm eating this. All right. Here's the last one. I think they call it a stick and chips, Luke. Do I eat it with a knife or just go for it? What is that? What am I looking at? A dong? Yeah. Well, is the dong tasty? Survey says yes. That's your shit of the week. What do you?

I got to get a grade here. Yeah, that's an A-minus. Oh, all right. And they robbed you, apparently, of a couple of gems. Yeah, I did get robbed. This was much better than last week. The mouth toilet would have been tremendous. Thank you very much.

That's our show. We've got to get out of here. I hope you enjoyed our recap. We'll be back Friday, 11 a.m. Eastern. What are we going to talk about on Friday, dude? Of course, David Onama versus Steve Garcia inside the apex. Bangor an apex card. Brother.

And then maybe I'll create some fun segments. We haven't played in a while. What's that new one called Long Island, Luke? Arrange eto. How about Arrangeot-Tua on Friday? Yes. Okay. All right.

That's what you get. Follow us at the handles below. Thank you very much. Enjoy our YouTube channels. I'm sure there's spin-off content there. Just waiting for you. Thank you to Long Island, Luke, for producing. Check out the main card minute.

Anything you want to tell them about your life? No. Just check it out. Thank you. All right. For Nadir and Ken in the back, yeah. Thank you so much. And for LT.

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