MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC 322 Results: Islam Makhachev Becomes Double Champ | Shevchenko vs Zhang | Full Recap

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

It's a Monday edition of Morning Kombat, and Brian Campbell and Luke Thomas are live in studio to break down all the latest in combat sports. First up, the guys recap the UFC 322 main event where Islam Makhachev easily dispatched Jack Della Maddalena. In the co-main event of UFC 322, Valentina Shevchenko scored an easy unanimous decision win over Zhang Weili. The guys discuss the matchup and the future of both fighters. Plus, Michael Morales has the best victory of his career over Sean Brady. Carlos Prates became the first person to KO Leon Edwards. And Benoit Saint-Denis scored a 16-second win over Beneil Dariush.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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right here from them Hartford Suburbs shortly will be talking to D.C.'s own Luke Thomas. I guess the the engines claim him as well. You know, does he though? Is it reciprocally? We'll get into that as well in this show.

How about UFC 322 on Saturday at MSG? A bit of that magic was back in the air. You know what I mean? And I would know from experience, dude. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Him and her got it on. No, they didn't.

All right. You can imagine what it'd be like if they did, though. Wow. Hey, here he is. L to the tizzle. Fuck, I'm truck. Headphones, please, sir. You got a bit.

Bang energy drink here. Your hair has not not been dyed at all. This is, this is his real, does it do the drapes match, the, uh, welcome, welcome to morning combat. Fuck you. Yeah. Let's go. We started late.

Fuck him. Trag. Still here to bang, though, which is why he got that can. And, um, I'm fired up for today. I'm fired up for today. I came here to, right here. To do this. And eat chowder.

Yeah. You saw a big bang jang in the crowd on Saturday. Yeah, so did I as well. By the way, that was my first Cajside UFC experience since Cannoneer versus Adesania in March 2020 on the JJ Whaley One card. How was it? How was it?

Awesome. Yeah? I wasn't even mad at the grappling. It was awesome, all right? Dylan Dennis got cuffed on my laptop similar to you. See, I think I got it dead wrong year in real time. Wasn't that Izzy Yoel Romero, March 2020? Who did I say?

You said cannoneeer. Kenoneer. If it's 249. Cannonier, Izzy was International Fight Week. You guys were there for that. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. You're right. Romero Izzy. We were in Vegas for 276. We were in Vegas for about four different shows. I just didn't go in the arena.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And for 276, we also did the pre-fight presser. We did a reaction for CBS Sports HQ, all that stuff. Oh, yeah. But sitting cage, I honestly cannot remember the last time. Thank you for dead wronging me, though, in real time. A quick shout out. You can follow us. Like us. Subscribe to us. Subscribe to everybody

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I talked about on this show that for my daughter's Halloween costume for the K-pop Demon Hunter's costume, I was all over Etsy. trying to find people who could make the weapon that were the characters that she was playing. And it was, you know, it was, it worked out okay, but it was a little bit of a tough process. He 3D printed all the weapons that,

there's three girls in a group. He printed 3D printed all of their weapons. Damn. And all of them were nicer than the ones that I had ordered, like way better. Next time, dude, I'm telling you, Average Joe Art, if you're listening, and he probably is, 3D printing,

Cosplay toys, that has to be big business. Yeah. That has to be big business. I'm trying to think if we, like, got a 3D printed dong and somehow put an MK logo on it, would it only work if it was a bomb? Wouldn't you have to have two dongs? The MK.

The MK. The MK. Dong Bong, by now. Okay, there you go. All right, people are probably like, yo, I want my breakdowns. They're coming right there. We call that the Donald Trump. Yeah, wow.

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brought this guy to our lives okay long out look no see you what up boys guys today's a big day it's actually the two year anniversary of main card minute so hey hey i'll get myself a little uh yeah there we got all right let's say a little self uh self grandizizing there that's uh i just want to say i mean it's hard for me to like stop for the moment i feel like michael douglas in falling down yes or i just want the burger or the breakfast yes instead of the lunch you have to wait 30 minutes i'mtrak i just need you to be on time for once you're like i'm from the military we ever once those trains leave at the right time every time right god wow all right uh also uh thank you long island luke you were at the hey real quick long out look you were at the

damn events this week i saw you at media day i saw you were you there on fight night yes sir they had you in the back with the peasants though right they so they had me in the back but we did have access to on the chase bridge like our own section i went out for the protest edwards fight i got that's fun okay cool cool yeah the garden was awesome i mean i it garden's always awesome yeah i mean you look i haven't been this close in a while it this it was nice it's still i mean how did they have mike bond in front of you though i mean dude he's at every show and i'll be next to him. Okay, but you're the, you're with the CBS. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, January is when this Oh, is that what they're going to get promoted to first chair in January? First chair, yeah. And

and I will do my part, okay. By the way, a lot of people defending Dylan Dennis on Twitter. What's going on here? We'll get to that. Defending Dylan Dennis? Yeah, yeah. Like, if anyone I haven't seen that. Oh, yeah, they're in my DMs. Or they're at my at my mentions. What did you say? I'm just like, yeah, in normal cases, I wouldn't defend a whole large group of people jumping one dude that dude came to the event to get in a fight like are we not like we're not we're not falling ourselves here like that that's why he came and was sitting in other people's seats and you know he got what he asked for like okay yeah i mean he tries move on move on yeah that's the part about him he tries to provoke yeah congrats i guess you know he won uh quickly

quickly here breaking news this morning as jake paul went to social media and simply wrote uh it's for real friday december 19th on netflix it'll be a real fight at heavyweight Jake Paul versus former heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua. I believe they're going to have a presser on November 21st with Ariel hosting to kind of kick this off. But Luke, we never really got into this rumor. So just a quick reaction, is he like, sorry, Nuwanda. You just signed your own death certificate.

That was a great line from a dead poet society. Are we looking at dead influencer society here? Why is he doing this? What does this mean? It honestly doesn't make sense to me. Because as everyone has rightly observed, I'm not adding much to the conversation, but just to sort of go over the high points, if Jake wins, this is, I mean, obviously it would be enormous for him, but it would be ruinous. I mean, truly ruinous for Anthony Joshua. By the way, it needs to get back after that Dubois, terrible loss. Sure. But nevertheless, still probably has a Tyson Fury London homecoming in front of him. This would not only ruin his career more broadly, but would specifically in the short run. run, I mean, just immolate any of those plans. So he's like, well, dude, no one's worried about those plans.

Okay, well, I mean, dude, those plans aren't in, uh, okay, but this is my point. So that doesn't make a lot of sense. Then on the other side, it's like, all right, Jake, if you lose this, the likelihood that you would lose it is a high and B, B, and B, the likelihood that this would be violent to the point of also being ruinous is also exceedingly high. So this is what I don't get, B.C. Like, did he owe Netflix something? I wonder if it's a panic to keep the relationship going since the tank, since they had to cancel the tank thing and it was...

The only thing I can think of that makes sense for me is that he owes them something and is desperate to deliver on it. And the best that he could come up with, given the circumstances, is this outrageous acceptance of a basically impossible and dangerous feat. I mean, part of what he's always done, Logan, too, in the rare fight, he's taken is I always looked at it more from a daredevil thing like we are influencers of the highest level across social media YouTube and everything we're going to do crazy shit because we're also good athletes and we're just nuts okay but they're swimming with sharks in cages and then they're swimming with sharks without I know so I'm like does Jake just know that inevitably whether it's for a cruiserweight title or it's

against you know inevitably he's going to catch that fade right and he does work hard and all that stuff but like maybe this is him just cashing himself out and saying I want to get that respect that I've never gotten for, for, you know, being crazy tough and taking on challenges. So you saw me do the Mike Tyson shit that you rightfully made fun of. Now I'm going to do the flip side of that, the hardest shit possible. And I just don't know if you'll have a future after that. And I have to say also, the fact that there was such wide repudiation of the Tyson fight, as well as the market did come, whether they called it off because of this

allegations in the lawsuit or because it performed poorly at the box office, you can can decide, but I think that the combination of the fact that it didn't, there was a muted response at the box office, and then this wide repudiation after the Tyson fight, I think it also made him, maybe this is an overcorrection, him trying to be like, okay, well, I can't do anything other than go all the way, the other way, rather than some, like, halfway decent guy. Yeah, I mean, it may have just been as easy as, like, there was a list of opponents, something like a Tommy Fury fight wasn't going to make Netflix. I'm just speaking out, what if? What if, What if Netflix is like, yeah, do that on DeZone.

That's not a Netflix fight. Right. But the names to do a Netflix fight probably involved in Ghanu, probably involved Joshua. He didn't go back to D.S. People are saying Francis dropped the bag, but I believe the deep sourcing on that was that he was offered a somewhat low amount for a short turnaround fight. But, yeah, this is crazy. We'll see. I mean, it seems real, but.

I mean, Netflix announced it, so. There you go, December 19th. Check that out. All right, no more delay. Let's get into it. Sorry about the Amtrak delays. It may remove your DMs later in the show. But I got a lot of shit.

I try it hard. Okay, sometimes I use what I have. What did you eat for dinner in the city last night? I've been eating bad for two days. And sometimes you just slide into that hole and you're like, all right, I'll finish the hole. I'll complete the hole. Yeah. All right.

I'm completing the hole right now. Oh, you know, pizza, Mexican. I mean, it's been a great. We've had a great run. You know, I've been on a heater. All right. There we go. There it is.

But now it's over. Now it's time to get serious. Let's go to topic number one. You know why we're here. MSG Saturday, UFC 322. It did feel like a big one. A major pay-per-view for the UFC as the ESPN deal continues to come to a close. A bit of that old MSG magic was there,

especially during that stretch with four straight viral knockouts and a crazy brawl in the crowd right in the middle of it. But in the end, we did see some historical developments in the co- and main events largely fueled by grappling, which has started a certain kind of, of argument. So Islam Mahachev becoming the 11th two-division champion in history with his unanimous decision, 50 to 45 across the board over Jack

Della Madalena tying Anderson Silva's record streak of 16 consecutive wins. In that process though, it was five rounds of when the opening was there. Islam took advantage of it. He took Jack down. Systematically would look

to set things up, wasn't looking to be reckless, wasn't looking to do anything but shmash. And he did that in the end. You are getting comparisons, though, to this fight to the way Hamzaa Chamaev took the middleweight title from DDP. Do we have an issue here as the cyclical? Let's get read into it, Luke. Is the criticism fair or is the bigger takeaway here that a legendary fighter in Majev, the same one who Dana White conceded at the post-fight press conference,

probably entering into goat talk one or two fights away here? Is it more about that moving up a weight class? Or are we going in the wrong direction, entertainment-wise, here's back-to-back, huge fights that they built up, and there was control that led to the victory. Yeah, I mean, this is a bit of, this is an interesting one to me, because you kind of have to put your personal biases aside as much as you can and just kind of read the room and see where we are on this.

I don't think anybody would deny that Islam just performed extraordinarily ably, perhaps to the point you raised too ably. I mean, I was in the second row. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yeah, I got to be honest. I didn't hate it either. I do recognize that there were parts of the bout that were not particularly fun.

I do recognize that some of the comparisons to DDP Homsot are fair, but I also think those are mostly exaggerated. But I would say this. We're kind of at this moment in time where defense at the highest level is typically getting much better. Because it should?

People, like, why did Poeton fight a guy, for example, in Khalil Roundtree, he was outside the top five. Well, I mean, the level of defense drops off precipitously, even within the top 10 or top 15, the fact that you got a wide open fight in that regard, to me, is not a coincidence. But you get guys at the very top,

their defense is very, very good. It is hard to do things to them. And I think you got something like this. You see this in elite wrestling. You see this in elite jiu-jitsu. You don't see a lot of, you'll see tech falls in high school. So you'll see tech falls at the highest level, but it's pretty rare at the really highest level.

So there's- round tech fall is what you're saying. No, a tech fall would be quick. Right, but this is like that over five rounds. Yeah, just sort of slowly simmering. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So by the time you get there, it's just one giant tech fall without that immediate like, you know, mercy rule. We got to call it off. So I think that's a big part of it. I think the other part too, though, is that, dude, Islam is fucking great. Ghali, bro. He is so fucking good. I mean, we knew this already. People were, you know, it was kind of funny, right? People were saying, wow, look at how good Volk did, really gives you a new new appreciation, which it absolutely does.

But it also reminds me the fact that Volk tried to fight that fucking guy on less than two weeks notice, that was never going to go any other way other than the way it did. Islam is not a guy. You can fight on any amount of short notice. What a disastrous idea that ended up being for any number of reasons. And the obvious ones, I don't need to spell out. BC, I thought this performance was certainly a little on the safe side. I think there's something to be said for that.

But I think the bigger issue was JDM didn't have the ability to get any offense going, but had a lot of survivability and some defense. And that made the friction a little bit hard to parse for some, a little harder to understand. But I just want to make this point before I pitch it back to you, which is, you know, it's not just that Islam is so goddamn well-rounded. which, of course, wow, he really is, taking the back and then trapping the arm,

beating up J.D.M's leg on the feet. How about just the fact that he neutralized his offense on the feet? For as long as they were there, J.D.M. got nothing done on the feet. He looked like the training camp was much tougher than the fight itself. But the point I want to make was this guy makes just almost no mistakes. It is so hard to catch him in error. And I want you to think about what that means.

people make mistakes when they don't understand something with the full depth and complexity that's required. Look at the way in which he can dominate about and there's really almost no interval where he's making serious or even otherwise perceptible mistakes. It's unlike a championship reign, not going to say in the MMA history, but he is absolutely among the half-dozen kinds of guys and ladies

that deserve to be remembered for being the very best that the sport has to offer. Because when we hit these, I don't want to say lulls because it's not. But like, look, is it great for the sport if we go from the way Chamaev one to the way Islam one? Let's say in December Marab does the same thing, right? Let's say he just controls for five rounds and lays on top. And that starts to happen for a year in a row. Is that bad for ratings?

Is that bad for entertainment growth? Like, sure. I just don't think that's going to happen because these pockets of when one style just takes over the way it does. We've been through wrestling cycles before in this sport. you know what I mean, American fueled or what have you. It just happens to largely be Dagestan or that whole area, extended area, fueled. But it forces the rest of the game to elevate their game to deal with it. Like, that's it.

Half kicks at a moment where they completely could control a fight until you raised your game to learn how to deal with it. This is going to force that next level of not just how often do we cry on the elite level when we don't see head movement. We don't see any dedication to defense. Well, even though I don't expect the rest of the sport to catch up to their wrestling dominance, The rest of the sport is going to have to catch up to find a way to hold it off. And that is an evolution of the sport built in that. It's cyclical.

But it's hard to look at what this guy's doing historically and try to lead with the idea that, oh, yeah, but it's better for the... No, this guy's awesome. This is incredible what he's able to pull off right here. We are watching a guy who came in with the Hibibib rub and is actually taking it to another level to the point of I led my post-fight takeaways column for CBS Sports with this topic. and I'm sure you've got something to say about it. They don't care about it.

I asked Islam this week at Midi-Midi-Day said the idea of him and Habib or him and Umar and Usman ever having a conversation of who's better would never, would never, ever happen because it's about building up their brother and being there for them in the same way they were for them. But I think it's fair to say that Islam has eclipsed from an accumulation, from an accomplishment standpoint, eclipse Habib's legacy. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I have enormous respect for the career of Habib and Nirmikrami. made off undefeated as everyone well knows tired at 32 29 and no set a standard of excellence that will stand the test of time and i think we'll continue to do that but it's not a legacy that is unbeatable and despite the fact that islam was finished early in his career i want to be very clear about something people are looking at the way which islam made this look easy and i think that they're downgrading the win as a consequence which i think is a huge mistake recall 34 years of age, bumps up 15 pounds against a JDM who looked like a million dollars against a very good, Bilal Muhammad, what appeared to me to be in phenomenal physical, physical, oh my God.

He had striations in his shoulder. JDM was caught. I mean, the pecs, everything was rocking. He looked to be in tremendous physical condition. And not only did Islam quite literally beat him everywhere, I want to make a note of this. and I'm sure everyone saw it. There was some chatter about it after the fact. He demoralized him.

He took his spirit from him in this fight. When the odds were the toughest up a weight class, to do that against a guy at 29 who was the deserving reigning champion and to take away his fighting spirit, he looked like at the end. To his credit, he fought off everything, including submissions late into the fifth. I'm not saying that he quit. That's not what I'm saying. No, he used all that energy to fight it off.

But his body wanted him to. But he had to rally and steal his mind because Islam was taking everything from him. Dude, motherfucking Islam is so special. And I do believe that this kind of win is something that Habib simply does not have. Yeah, and I think he's got, and we've already said it for years, but Islam's got a more well-rounded game than Habib. He's moved to 28 and 1 with his victory, now a two-division champion, 16 consecutive wins since that one fight 10 years ago

against Adriano Martins that he walked into a hook and now he calls it the big mistake that I made and boy has he made up for that it did take him a while to get elite foes but then once he did the run that he's currently on right now the opponents available to him moving forward in the sports deepest division

he really does have a chance Dana is not talking out of his ass post-fight he really does have a chance to approach here Uspan was in the same spot when he won 15 in a row and was number one pound for pound he does have it look look we both say He's number one pawn for pound now. You eclipse Marab and Ilya with that.

Now, they could flip-flop a fight to fight until they fight each other, but this is the best of the show. I think what Islam did to JDM and what it meant to beat him this way means more to me than Ilya and the way he beat Charles at this particular stage. I agree with you. Also, one more point getting back to Volk, just think about that. Volk, when he bumped up to get a second belt, had to fight fucking Islam. And now he wants to fight him at 170. Yeah. And meanwhile, Ilya had to bump up and fight Charles.

Charles is very good, but that's not the, that is in no way the same kind of task. Islam is your top. Well, to further illustrate Islam's greatness, here's the street, here are the streaks that he snapped to get to where he is right now, the windstreeks snapcher, 11-fight win-street for Charles Olivaire at the very peak of his game, you know, a Hall of Fame term for Olivera, a 22 fight run for the great Volcanovsky, 18, people forget, Jack Della, lost his first two pro fights, had not been on an 18. teen fight win streak, yes, didn't get to the title through the traditional path of beating

killer contender after killer contender, but what he did against Bilal showed who he really was what he tried to do in defense here. I mean, how much, let's talk about the Jack side of it. How much are you disappointed in Jack? Dana sounded a bit afterwards like he thought he would do more. We were saying that about Whaley. We're saying that about JDM, right? I do have a question. There was so much grimacing on the floor. Did he, I don't, I'm not talking about the leg. Did he have some other kind of injury or did he sustain any other kind of injury during the course of that bout? Didn't you see him like wincing in pain? And again, part of that was probably frustration. I don't know. So I want to say we have to wait and hear could there

have been some kind of mitigating circumstance perhaps. I mean, on the one hand, like what worked? The submission defense certainly saved him. Remember the levels to fighting or survive defend attack he never really got out of defend he certainly was never i mean i guess the first opening seconds of the first round he kind of came after him but otherwise that was it i would say i am a little disappointed in him i thought there would be he'd have a little bit more readiness for some of the things that islam would be able to do but i also feel like that feels like ddp it really does it really feels like the same feeling we should do you want to talk about the comparisons to that fight i mean i know ddp was way more accomplished coming in than jd

ADM was, but they both succumb to the same thing. The one hole in their game, which in the past they've been able to not make it a hole when you find that key that can slice through anything and turn it, you're fucked. And he used every ounce of his recuperative and toughness to be able to hold off being finished. I have a video coming out about this. I was trying to do it at 4 a.m. this morning and I couldn't finish it. But the reality is, again, if people didn't like it, I disagree, but I understand. People have different priorities.

People like Kiss. I mean, it's just ridiculous. I mean, some people like bullshit, and that's just, that's life. But the reality is by the, this is the difference. The key thing you have to understand is underneath Islam. First of all, Islam never really hit the kinds of positions and could camp out in the way that Hamzot did. Hamzat was able to immediately go to side control and just simply hold it for long stretches of the fight, not just rounds. You didn't get that with Jack.

fighting Islam for every single inch of space, which is why Islam was, for the most part, only ever in half guard, because he couldn't really fully ever pass. J.D.M. wouldn't let him. The point I'm trying to make is the positions were not neutral BC, but they were closer to neutral than what you got with DDP, in part because Jack made it that way. And Jack was much, much squirmier underneath. He was trying buggy chokes. He was trying Granby reversals. He was trying, you name it. He was constantly fighting for frames. He was constantly trying to get to his side. The problem is, BC, he would get to his side. Islam would pin his own arm to him with his body weight or begin to separate it and look for a Camorra or some other thing, or now he has to

go back down. So he was making him pick between a set of offensive dilemmas. However, to the extent that that fight stalled out, which is debatable, but to the extent that it did, it's because if you've never rolled before. If you allow someone to do the beginning stage of, let's say, going bottom to top and you don't address it, the bottom falls out very quickly. So you have to stay on top of it. Break a grip, place your weight somewhere, whatever it ends up being. Otherwise, it just goes completely haywire very quickly. So the bottom drops out. So the point I'm trying to make is Islam having to cover in that way, it might feel a little DDP Hamzadish, but I think there's a much better, that to me, if a guy underneath is very squirming and hard,

hard to hold. I can appreciate what it means for a fight to not necessarily be exciting to order to maintain top position. That's a little different than DDP getting absolutely thrashed and having no answers. And the missing link in this analysis of how Islam was able to do that is moving up in weight. And when he says pre-fight, I feel like I was only fighting at 70 to 80% of myself at 155 because of the hard weight cut. I think he kind of proved it because, look, there'd been a working theory that you can wrestle three rounds at the highest level in the UFC. But that's it. Remember, when Habib was throwing out, you know, Aalekwinto around at UFC 223, but then the championship rounds had a strike more.

We've seen it so many times. Sean Brady told me this week when I asked him. I was like, can you go three rounds? He never shot against Morales. We'll get into that. But I was like, if you wanted to ragged off for three rounds, can you do that in this type of fight? Yes. For five rounds, Islam did this.

And he talked afterwards about this is what happens when I'm not sacrifice myself. That's scary. That's scary. It's going to force everyone to change their game against him. Islam is arguably, I mean, he's the only mitigating factor here is age. But based on the way he looks, he might be better at 70 than 55. And that's kind of insane to think about it. Well, it's a killer list of opponents we'll get to very shortly.

Here first is coach Javier Mendez breaking down what happened to JADM because of Izzy's greatest, or Islam's greatest. I wasn't 100% sure on Jack's speed, but when I saw it right away with the first jab or the first punch Jack through, I said, damn, he doesn't have the speed to keep with us. So I kept yelling distant, distance, Matador style. Islam knows Matador style. I taught him that many, many years ago against Avi Ramos. So he knows that style really well. The only error we made is on the clinch, you know? Because on the clinch, he got hit really quick.

He had to deliver the knee off real quick. So after that, we said, no more knees. I said, no more knees. We all said, no more knees. No more knees on that shit. Here's Ian Gary, though, coming down on JDM's performance. This is where the fight starts. Can he stay down or can he get back up?

I did not think this was going to be as easy as it is. Now it's just a question of, is Jack going to break? Three rounds of domination by Islam so far. Jack doesn't look like he knows how to fight. This is a great night for me. Islam's going to win. I want that fight. Jack loses.

Leon gets sparked. The only way this gets better is if Jack's nose goes the other side of his face. Look at the face of that man. He's the champion right now. Look at that. Broken. Clearly doesn't want to fight coach. Throw the towel and look at him.

He's about to cry. Grab his leg, take him down, and that's the fight guaranteed Islam. Hey, done. Game over. See you later. I'm going home. Take care.

Jack Delamadalena versus Carlos Patches. That's what's next. And me and Islam. All right, let's talk about the future. This was a huge showcase night for the Walterweight Division. I love the match making across all three fights on there, and we'll get to the other two.

But this elevated the division made you want to see everyone against Islam moving forward. that voice of Ian Gary matters because he's got former champ Al-Mohamed next Saturday in Qatar in the co-main event that could decide the next title contender. You've got Carl's protest and you've got Michael Morales who had breakthrough stoppages on this card. You've also got Kamarouzman lingering

and the idea that Islam wants this matchup to add such a legendary name to his resume. You've got Usman who's coming off of it, a very good win against contender and Joaquin Buckley, but had a stretch before that in which he's taking high-level losses and not really fighting at welterweight yet he's ranked in the top five i don't want to ask you first who should be or who will be next who is the one welterweight right now you and i think you can throw to pori in this discussion if you want to make it a larger one who has the best chance

of being that version of islam to be honest i don't think any of them have a very good chance including chafcott including chafcott i mean chafcott i've been very high on but he's been gone he missed the entire year i do think he tweeted do we have a quick look at what he tweeted we give a shop-cutta tweet. What do we got there? Yeah, here we go. Congratulations to Islam. Excellent performance, but the real challenge at 170 is me.

Who is the real challenge at 170 for Mahatjah? I don't really think there is one. I can't believe I'm saying that so quickly, but to do that to Jack the way he did, I mean, Bala couldn't even do a fraction of that. And Islam made it look effortless. I don't think there's anyone in that division. Now, you might say Kumaru can wrestle

and obviously can strike a little bit, did well to at least hang on, and then push back against Hamzat. Fair enough, that might be one of the more competitive bouts you could get. I do think the Rachmanov bout is potentially one of the more competitive bouts you could get. Would you be upset at Usman? Some people are saying that he's already ducking. As new champion of the deepest division, he's ducking if you want to Isman.

Okay, but yes. I mean, it's a huge payday for Ali. We know that. Holly reps both guys. It'd be a good payday for him, I'm sure. But the reality is, as Oscar was telling us last week, also the case that the UFC really wants Usman to be in that role. So I tend to think that might be a foregone conclusion.

I'll leave open the possibility, BC, the possibility that if Gary goes in there and absolutely just dunks on Balal, which I don't expect. But let's say that he does, maybe he could leapfrog. But to me, the toughest challenges look like something around the neighborhood of Usman, Rachmanov and Gary. And I'd put Topporia at 70 at the very, very end of that list. you how you really i can't believe dude how could you watch that fight and think toporius chances got better because of size and wrestling at 55 55 when islam is drained

a little bit of a different ballgame okay let's say it right now Islam is not cutting to 155 again nor should he ever any talk about the toporia fight has to be about the three division championship it's pointless it's 70 it's pointless i don't know if it's pointless i i just former 45er is going to beat that fucking guy this dude doesn't act like a former 45er okay he's acting like he's still a 45 brother. The escalation of Connor McGregor in a lot of ways. I get what you're saying here. Here's Toporia after the fight,

taking issue with GDM and putting his name into the mix. It's a tweet. It says Jack Elya typed, Twiped. Jack needs an entire camp dedicated just to wrestling. What a disappointment of a champion. You should go to Georgia to learn something. He's not talking about big chicken.

Islam, you need something you can't train. Emotion. You're the most boring thing in this game. Every day I'm more certain. I put you to sleep. We have the reaction here from Islam Mahachev to fate to the idea of facing Ilya to Poria next. Poria, I don't know if you saw his tweet.

He said you're like the most boring fighter in the UFC or something like that. I know you said to ask us or ask you about him after the fight at Media Day. Can you give us your full thoughts on a fight with him now? No injury, nothing. I don't feel any pains. I'm ready.

Who is going to be next? Let's do this. and I will make it easy. I do love that attitude of like whoever they want. And normally I don't love that because I want guys to fight for their position, but this is the best fighter in the sport, angling toward the idea of entering the go conversation being like, whoever, bring that shit to me.

He said he wanted the White House afterwards. What percentage is the UFC, not looking from a meritocracy standpoint, not looking from which division is logjam, just looking from, we have this White House card, we can go a number of ways. what if we went in a one versus two palm for pound and actually did this thing? But at 170 for the three division element,

so you make this one of the biggest fights of all time. What percentage do you believe the UFC pulls this trigger? 50-50. 50-50. It's not the right fight looking at the division. Having Islam on that card seems like a foregone conclusion, based on timing and all the other promotional. Dana agreed this week that you don't need an American.

We're not doing USA versus the world. Dana said explicitly. It's not USA versus the world. It's just let's build the best card that we can. Having Islam seems like that's a must, right? Okay. So that's there. I think you could get away with them doing Islam versus Kumaru or even Islam again. Let's say

it's Ian Gary or something like that. I think you could get away with it. But I think that they're probably going to put in their back pocket the Toporia one. But dude, the matchmakers have to be looking at that and saying Toporia's got not a great shot. Not a great shot after this.

I, dude, I can't believe it's, like, Toporia's, like, main booster. I have to convince you guys at 55, to me, I feel very differently about it, but at 70? Well, he does have knockout power, but maybe that wrestling size difference is more than I'm realizing it. Islam barely gets hit. His entries are fucking lightning. What speed advantage do you have on the hand speed? He'll have an advantage, for sure. He'll have an advantage.

But, I mean, dude, Islam is going to be shooting low and fast. So you're saying Islam over-performing. to the level that he actually made this fight not viable, unless you did that 155, which again, he has no reason to cut down. He built his body up. You had told me on Friday, Jack's going to do nothing. Yeah. Jack's going to do

nothing. We thought Islam would fight his way out of trouble in the way. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That Jack would be a tough challenge to be curious to see exactly how Islam navigated. Islam looked like he was Islam almost looked like he had fucking pity on the guy. I want Schofcott now. Chofcott's a big one. That's kind of like the wild card. Gary would be fun. There's certain elements to that, but

Even do Hamzot going back to 70. Fuck Hamzot going to 205. I don't know if you can even make 70 this point. Hamzat Islam? That's a sick fight. Brandon Wise sat next to me from CBS Sports, my editor, and we were talking like that might actually be the fight. If you threw rankings, divisions, championships out of the way,

Islam versus Tchamayev is the fight. That's the fight right now you know verifiably, without a shadow of a doubt, he's got another wrestler on his hands. Damn. Because I know what everyone. everyone's going to say they're going to say ilia started as a wrestler and a grappler which is true but

I don't think that anyone would say A at 70 that's going to matter as much as it would for Hamza to go back down and Hamzat's a better pure wrestler than Tuporia anyway. Islam's a he already was but I mean he's a pay-per-view brand he is a star and he got there with the help of the of the bump

of course of being Habib's guy but he's really escalated that in every possible category I really feel like that building was filled with definitely way Lee fans but that was filled with it with Islam fans. He got the loudest pop? I mean, Porreier and GSP got pretty big pops from the crowd there. That brawl got a big pop. Also, another guy. Look at what fucking Porriet did to Islam.

He fucked up his face. Remember, he had him bleeding. He slashed his face open in that fifth round, survived all the way before that, was putting some decent shots on him. Consider if Dustin Poirier did much better against Islam than J.D.M. ever did. It's hard to believe, but true. This is great. All right. We have one more bit on this topic to talk about. And it's the Craig Jones side. We were kind of giving Craig Jones superpowers being in JDM's corner that it was going to lead to an ability for Jack Del and Madalina to

get up and get up often. He has been in the corner before when Volk took on Islam. He's been the celebrity higher for a few different guys here. But his magic seems to have run out and this topic came up when Mahachev talked after the fight

and, you know, when we scanned his words, it was enough. It was spicy enough to bring in our friends from Cuervo. Yes, for shots fired, let's go. Shots fired, brought to you by Cuervo. Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Here's the champ. What did you say to Craig Jones after?

I told them, you're your jiu jitsu not working. You have to come to Dagestan for two, three years. What did he say? He started laughing, he told, Khadip. I will come, Dagestan. Two, three years, fix everything. Is the magic of our friend Craig Jones gone, or is it still situational based on the... I mean, you can't have it both ways, right?

You can't say that Volk performed so well against Islam in their first contest and then say, well, JDN performed poorly, and so therefore Craig's stuff doesn't work. Craig's stuff worked real well the first time for Volk. For Volk. You know, there was a ton of stuff that Volk took from him, very specific. Craig Jones things, and it worked quite well. So, I mean, we really need to say, like, what exactly is Craig's influence? And, you know, can he get these guys over the hump?

No, well, look what the fucking guy they're up against? I mean, what is his influence on the sex trade? It's like, probably significant, yeah. But the point I'm trying to make is, dude, like, look at who he's fucking fighting. He's fighting Islam Makachev, the very best guy in the world. Yes, Greg could train me all my life. I'm still not fucking beating that guy, and I recognize that pro fighters are much better, but I'm saying there's a limit to how much one guy can do for another one when, yes,

could a different area of focus, BC, have maybe made this a little bit closer? BC, yes, of course the answer is yes, but not enough to fucking win. Look at how far apart JDM is from Islam. There was a vast ocean of difference. Craig, no Craig, no trainer in the fucking sport is going to make up that difference. It doesn't exist. It's not possible. So the point I'm trying to make is how can you look at what Craig's influence has been on broader jiu-jitsu, a sport jiu-jitsu, and in particular guys like Volk and the demonstrable difference that it had and then say, well, JDM couldn't do shit with it, so therefore it's bad.

I recognize from a public perception standpoint that the Craig stock is probably going to deflate a little bit after this. I get that. I see it. And maybe there's something to be said for that. But to me, it's like the argument is he was doing a little bit too much. jujitsu to counter Islam and not enough wrestling. And I think there's something to that. But that also, dude, for example, show me, Long Island Luke, show me how JDM was defending strikes. Show me paint defense.

Show me physically how it would look like. I can see you. Right. Great content. Constantly here. Dude, against a guy who's got a low lightning level change, this is kryptonite. This is kryptonite. So could he have done better related to that?

certainly there is something to be said for that but the fact that he survived against Islam honestly is a big feather in the cap to Craig Jones I don't disagree with that I'm telling you if you didn't know exactly where to put your body from the side to the back how to hand fight where your shoulders need to be Islam is fucking putting you out period so the fact that Craig does or excuse me the fact that Jack hung on is long to me is very impressive obviously I'm a Craig booster, biases on the table. I think he could have wrestled better. Maybe a different coach can get that out of him.

Fair enough. But the idea that Craig's ideas are bad, no, they're very, very good and they're ahead of their time, as far as I'm concerned. Of all the boosters, your favorite is Craig? That's what you're saying. Probably, yeah, I like Craig a lot. All the vaccines in your life. Long Island, Luke, quickly over to you.

Luke used the word ocean, which I know is one of your favorite Pearl Jam songs, but I would like to quickly get your take on what should be next for the great Islam Mahachev. How disappointed would you be in Usman and does he even have a chance? So before this fight, I was very disappointed in Usman. I heard a few people saying that. And I was like, come on, man, we're really going to do that with how hot welterweight is right now. That being said, I feel like it's got to be either Usman or Shavkat at this point,

like as far as who can even beat Islam. Like, I just, I don't see Michael Morales beating him. I don't see Carlos Bratis beating him. Oh, you're saying because Usman would beat the other guys he deserved. I just, I don't know. I want to point out one thing about JDM. controls him, right? Oh, go ahead back. Let's talk Australian. One thing about JDM is I was

shitting on the guy all week. I said he had no chance in this fight and that did kind of play out. But I will say, I was super impressed with JDM in this fight. Maybe other people weren't. I was actually like, oh shit, look at him on the ground. Like, he's defending all these submission attempts. I actually think the Craig Jones factor was huge. Yes, I totally

agree. I think he probably gets finished in the first three rounds if Craig is not. Yeah. I mean, one more time, he finished Poirier, a black belt and jujitsu. He finished Charles Levera, a black belt and jujitsu. Craig, Excuse me. I keep saying Craig. I apologize. J.D.M. hung on there. And I'm telling you, if you, against a guy as skillful as Islam, that is very, very difficult to do. But the notion could a different coach get a better wrestling, you know, response out of him? I'm open to the idea. Absolutely. For sure. The idea that Craig's ideas don't work is complete horseshit from people who can't even tell you what Craig's ideas even fucking are. I can. That's why I know they work. Yeah. Fuck you. How about that?

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I think just on some of his content, but I thought, you know, he brought the energy. He certainly brought the energy. Someone told us he's that the problem was he's actually more MK than we are. So it makes us look late. He was like, yeah, of course I'm willing to eat roaches and jack off at the bus stop.

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Number two addresses the co-main event of UFC 322 on Saturday. The historic women's matchup on paper that brought in two-time flyweight champion. Valentina Shevchenko, who did a lot of history in the end and her unanimous decision win over two-time strawweight champion, Zhang Wei Li. Most importantly, making Zhang Wei Li ultimately look like she didn't belong in there, which was wild, considering this was a virtual betting pickum most of the week. But Shevchenko, equaling Amanda Nunes for most title wins. in UFC history, becoming the sole owner of most title defenses on the women's side in UFC history, and continuing to just add to her already incredible legacy at age 37 that even the broadcast and Joe Rogan were starting to say, I wonder if there is an argument here

for Goat Ship for this woman. Luke, this was similar to the main event in which grappling was used. I really, though, liked Valentin's explanations afterwards of how hard of a fight this actually was, even though your eyes didn't see that, because, it was so hard to control someone as talented as Wei Li Zhang. As impressive as his victory was for Shevchenko's career, what can we really say that she has a claim to in the history of the sport right now? I think that the overall body of work puts her somewhere in the neighborhood.

You could say higher, but certainly no worse than top three, I think, of the best women to ever do it, the consistent excellence year over year, at least in terms of getting her hand raised. And improving and evolving. Oh, I don't think she's improving and evolving. You don't think so? No.

She brought her wrestling. I don't think so. To such a high level where people had given Wayley nothing but credit in recent years for revolving her wrestling game. It's certainly better than it was relative to the Holly Holm fight, but I would even argue she was more dangerous back then, just based on kind of the risks she was willing to take. I mean, I think there's a pretty decent criticism to make of this fight,

But, you know, if you're asking about the good side of Valentina, the overall amount of wins, the amount of wins against quality names, the amount of wins from, you know, obviously pound for pound people that she's gone up against, she did not get her hand raised against the men and newness, but that was an extremely close fight. And then their first one was putting it on her when it was a three-round contest and it came to an end. So to me, she has shown incredible durability, incredible resilience in the sense of 37 years old and still able to be on top. of the game by reinventing her game a little bit. You talk about evolution. No, to me, she's evolved her defense to it, like, in a glove, she couldn't even get in touch. Outside of that huge overhand right

that Waley landed early on where you're like, oh, shit, we got a fight here. I don't feel like she got touched outside of regular jabs or the flow of the fight, you know? I just feel like, you know what? I said this. People were talking about this fight ahead of time being like, this is an epic clash

of Titans. And I kind of didn't buy it. Not that if you just, if you look at Shevchenko's resume, and then you look at Jean-Wi Lee's resume, and you're like, wow, these are incredible resumes. I mean, no one is a fraud here. Like, this is, this is amazing. But something felt a little flat for me, which was, I've seen Shevchenko at 35. She's as competitive there as, I mean, again, I mean, within a hair's breath of beating Amanda Nunes. And certainly. Submitted Julianna Payne, beat Holly Holmo. Dude, like, I mean, she's a fucking beast at 35. So then she goes to 25 where she can really do her

thing they're having someone come up from 115 so to me it's like you've got someone who's probably a little closer to a natural bansom weight going up against a very good but now slightly over the hill straw weight this is not an it's an epic clash between two big names but there's a little lack of suspense for me it just didn't mean the same thing i'm not going to try to be like it was entertaining i'm not even i'm not even making a point about the entertaining i'm simply saying i'm not calling it a squash match but jdm not getting shit done again against Islam when he's coming up 15 pounds and J.D.M. is the champ and the younger guy. Yes, I get that. That to me feels different than her waiting on someone to come up who's

36 years of age when she was beating up the ladies a division up from this one. So you're saying it's similar to when Yawanna came up to 125 to challenge Valentina and none of us gave her a chance and it played out that way because she doesn't have power or submission game. She's going to just run into that. But I think Wailey was looked at as different because not only does she have a strong wrestling game she is a threat. That was overstated which I said on Friday's MK. I said on Friday's MK that was overstated. You know and Oscar thought that

Waley would run through her and there were questions about that especially seeing Waley look so fit and she had time off and really had rebuilt her body like Islam did but hearing, and we don't have the sound right here but hearing Valentina at the Post-Fite press conference literally say I prepared for war, five rounds of war

we thought this would be the toughest fight of our entire career. We've trained on a level I never even thought before in terms of just destroying ourselves every day physically and then she said people will say that this looked easy she said every single second she's fighting off Waley's advancement

every second Waley felt like she was right there on the verge of landing a big shot and even when she would take her down the amount of fighting just to control position just to set something up that that actually was one of the most skilled tough opponents she ever faced she was that much better

and some of that comes with the size in this argument I get that she's also 37 dude. Yeah, no. And she completely neutralized this great fighter. Granted, this great fighter got beat twice in row, legit by Rose, including a head kick knockout.

And we can never forget that. But she was 10 and 0 against everybody else and dominant. And it looked like if you don't hear this sound and if you don't watch it with the eyes of a fighter, if you're just casually watching it, it looked like she didn't belong in there. You got to give Shefchenko that. Come on, man.

I'm not saying she's some fraud. That's really not my point. No, but you're discounting the quality of the way. She's saying all of this, and it played out exactly. we thought it was going to play out the people who thought like yeah i mean these are great fighters but this is a somewhat somewhat predictable kind of thing played out exactly in that way so for her to say that i appreciate that she's working that hard and i'm sure she is but this you know saying that oh

this only happened because of my preparation again i'm saying i'm sure she trained hard but this followed the exact path that we had assumed it would because of what shivchenko represents she's physical for the weight class, she has good wrestling, she doesn't make a lot of mistakes and dominant but smothering top control that's somewhat risk averse. Yeah, no shit it played out the way that it played. It's not the same thing

as Islam beating JDM. It's not even fucking close. It's not because of the weight moves that you're saying, but what Valentina had lacked up to this point was certain that one signature victory against a fellow Hall of Famer where we felt the terms were even. Maybe she didn't get that in that you want to fight because

of that size difference. I just I don't know, I don't equate it all to size. I give her a lot of props for what she pulled off in there. Is there a path for her, though, to goat ship? And would that path have to include a Bantamweight champion? It's the, she doesn't have to go to Bansomweight, but it's clearly the most interesting part of what's left. She turned pro before Chris Seiborg.

Isn't that crazy? It's insane. And I know Chris is still around with the BFL championship. She's not doing nothing, but that's insane. I certainly I just feel like I don't know what Schifchenko wants or what the UFC will ask of her

but if you just look up and down the various 125 and 135 rosters the cupboard is a little bit bare more broadly but the more interesting challenges to me like her versus Kayla now that's a challenge and when you say more broadly it's because we're talking about the women's division

ultimately right I mean you lean on that you lean on that a lot you go there you lean on that joke a lot You go there a lot. Right, all right. I'm just trying to say, just ask yourself, which of these fights are toughest for her? And it's clearly something in order of Harrison, not, you know.

Okay, but because Harrison's a monster at 35 and we openly question, like, how much longer she can make that, which is why I kind of want them to give her a chance at, like, a women's heavyweight where you have two divisions in one. Is it realistic for her to beat somebody that is? Are you saying, well, she used her physicality to beat Wei Lee and kind of just controlled her? Well, who's to say Harrison should be the same. That's precisely why it's interesting. Her lording her physicality over a smaller opponent is not especially, I mean, I know there's going to be people who probably hate this opinion, but her lording that over a smaller

opponent is not that interesting to me. Her being thwarted against an opponent who can match that physicality, now that's a little bit of a different ball game. That, to me, is interesting. I mean, I'm never going to argue on the interesting slash entertainment side of it, but on the just pure skill domination side. You know, I certainly give her the flowers. We do have Schifchenko talking about exactly that, the idea of facing

Kayla Harrison next or could it be Natalia Silva could be another contender here's Val told me to ask you after the fight when we spoke before about Kayla Harrison saying she'd like to fight you at 135 at the White House if you won this what do you think about that now I think it's one of the possibilities yes and I consider that it's kind of like for now I want to take care of injuries what I have that's kind of like migrating from training camp to training camp with me but after like maybe a week or something like that we will have our conversation with my team with my coach pavel and decide what is next because i feel there is good challengers in flyweight as well erin natalia and benton weight now we have amanda or kaila and i would say probably fans would

love to see Amanda trilogy because it was unfinished business, but in the same time, it's unclear yet, is she return or not return? Is she fighting or not fighting? And also it's unknown in what shape she's going to return, like half Amanda or maybe full Amanda. Who knows? Yeah, but Kyla, it's also one of the possibility, and it's going to be another, like, super challenge. child to Kyla, by the way, and I did want to mention, of course, Aaron Blanchold submitting Tracy Cortez, which put her in that conversation as well. Luke, this is interesting, but would it be better if we're trying to, like, pro wrestling script this? Okay, what if Amanda and Kayla would have their super fight, you know, their former teammates that broke apart because of the rising greatness of Kayla? Let's say Amanda won that, and that'd be one of the biggest wins, you know, in her entire career.

Isn't it better to get Val trying to become a two-division champion against Amanda? to try to avenge the two losses of her greatest rival for the idea of an actual handoff of goat ship in the same manner that Nunez knocking out cyborg was a handoff of that greatness. Okay, but the only issue is, do you remember the second Nunez and Shvchenko fight? Of course.

Sucked. Ass. Okay, but it was, wasn't it better than Woodley Wonder Boy 2? It was better than Woodley Wonder Boy 2. Okay, fair enough. We haven't talked about this yet. If there's anyone getting blowback on the internet for being boring, Islam is getting some of it.

Okay. Shevchenko's getting the most of it. People seem tired of her. Long Island Luke, have you detected among at least the online fan base, there's a little bit of Valentina fatigue? I got to be honest. I didn't see anything about this, but BC texted me a clip today. That was very anti-shevchenko.

I texted a clip today of that dude who was like... That's a drop in the bucket from what I've seen. Where the guy was basically like, you can't get into the UFC with wrestling a boring style. You have to be exciting on the day and what can. But yet we were rewarded at the title level. Yeah, well, it's also because the contender series rules are stupid. I mean, let's be honest about that.

But, dude, I see here taking a bunch of L's online. People just kind of like fed up with the smother, what they, in their mind, in their minds, the smother fest that comes with her fight. This is what I'm trying to say. Somebody who can make a meaningful resistance of that, to every direction you want to go is fine. The Nunes one is interesting for all the reasons you articulated, except that the last fight that they had was butt cheeks.

If someone had your opinion, but they looked like they were a piece of shit, you would say they hate women. That's why they believe that. No, I would take a broader view, speaking of the board again. I would take a broader view. Let me guess you studied abroad and then you married. I would take a broader view of their world view more broadly and other opinions. But having, I think, a diminished opinion relative to 2016 of the state of women's MMA

is not only warranted, but frankly, rational. Okay. I'm here for Val trying to make. it the go a conversation, a cemented thing in her favor, because she's in that area where she still got it and there are huge fights to our point at 135 here. You liked the Shefchenko

fight with Zhang? Did I like it? Yeah, I was actually, like, surprisingly entertained the entire night with every fight that I was shocked to hear people. You can't ask this guy. I wish I heard. I hear people were complaining about the Co-main and Maine. Co-main is a little more understandable. The main? I do

not get how... I'm with you. I didn't hate the Maine at all. I understand there's complaints out there. I get it. Comain, I can understand. Well, we kind of felt like it could be a tactical, not overly exciting fight, even at the best situation where if Whaley was just sort of like equalling her on the striking. But I have to say, he was there in different forms. I was there in the second row. Maybe it's because it came after a four-fight stretch with the knockouts,

the brawl in the crowd, where that UFC 205, UFC 217 magic was back in the garden. It was like anything can happen next. Well, the first three fights on the main card were, I mean, car crashes. Counting Bow, Nicol, that's four straight viral chaos with a car crashes. I was with a Dale and Dana's car crash in between. It was like, holy shit, are we pointing toward potential, like, best card of this era type of feeling? I wasn't to let down because we kind of knew this could happen. There's some people are saying, if you kind of know coming in, could this just open the pay-per-view main card?

Or is that super disrespectful? That's super disrespectful. All right. Dana didn't love the performance from Zhang Wei. A lot of us were disappointed, thought she would do better. Here's the boss. And then speaking of goat talk again, Valentin Shepchenko. another crazy dominant performance.

I saw you did a podcast where you said that fight would never be boring, and then it turned out that Valentina just kind of smoked her. Curious your thoughts on that fight as well. Yeah, I thought that, you know, Whaley's a little pit bull. I thought she would be much stronger and do better in that fight than she did. One of my buddies texts me after the fight and said, this is why we have weight classes. I mean, Zhang's a very strong woman,

and Valentina just kind of threw around like no business. Would you be interested in Valentina maybe moving back to 135 to 205 to 20? and test herself, or you're okay with her making those calls? I don't know. I'm not even thinking about that kind of shit. Wow, he called the shit. He's like, yeah, I don't really care about that at all. But I obviously, he doesn't actually mean that.

But interesting. Should Whaley go to 115 and really make McKenzie Dern up unhappy? Or should, I mean, when Valentina was asked, she said, oh, no, she absolutely should stay in this way class. She belongs here. She's going to be a handful for every single one of the other girls. I can believe that she can be, let me be clear. I believe that Drong Wiley can absolutely be competitive at 125 pounds.

And should they ask, Val, give up the belt, move up? I think if she's going to go back to 35 and I'm, and I'm John, I stick around. But the issue is... Valentina fights a lot. I know she said she needed a little bit of time off, but like, do you get the soul? Do you go one more and do the solo fight? I mean, it's kind of the same question we're saying about Pereira. Is you fight Oldberg, or do you move on and let Oldberg fight for the vacant title?

It's tough. I mean, at 36, too, she has some questions to ask about... 36 for Whaley. Wayley, you know, to what extent she is going to be, you know, how much longer she wants to cut the most amount of weight? She wouldn't answer the question despite Joe's, to give him credit. Joe Rogan was going back to the well, like, no, I'm trying to find out if you're going to be a... I don't actually respect him for that. He didn't let it go, because most people would just let it go.

I'm glad he didn't. Well, she's doing it. I have to say, I know it's a cultural difference, but she was too happy after a loss like that. She walked by the press table and was like, yeah, like celebrating like she had won. And I know what she's celebrating. The idea that she put her best effort into it, and that's her reputation. and she's going to come back and do it again, you know, whoever she fights. But I also wanted to also see, like, some disappointment.

Like you tried hard and really came up empty in this fight and did not look like an all-time great. And that's because of Shevchenko being that great, dude. All right. There's a lot to be said for that. No one cared about this fight but me, apparently. All right. Let's move it on here to topic number three. And it's the rest of the UFC 32 main card, which is inevitably a welterweight conversation here after break through knockouts and near 50-50 fight offerings.

from one Carlos protest, from one Michael Morales. Let's start off on the 19 and O Morales, who scored his third straight explosive stoppage win late in the first round, or was it the second round against Sean Brady? First round stoppage against Sean Brady, who was number two coming in. Luke, the size difference looked huge in there. It was only supposed to be three inches in height,

six inches in reach, which is not nothing, but it looked like something in there. we didn't get a Brady shot in that first round ultimately but Morales did something that I didn't see this ending coming in and holy shit he delivered he was poised, he was powerful

he called for a title shot afterwards is he firmly in the conversation here for a shot at that or are we instead looking at potentially bringing him in protest and just banging it out look to figure it out yeah I think to me he needs one more I've seen a lot of desire to push Morales

into a title shot, which to be clear, BC, I mean, he's on his fucking way. He just dusted the number two guy in the world who I have great, we both, we have great respect for Sean Brady. And I want to say one more time, Brady took a huge risk here. We identified it. I'm sure everyone did when we did Thursday show. And this was either going to go great for him or blow up in his face. And it blew up in his face.

And that's just the, that's the game he played. What I'll say is BC, one thing, first of all, they looked like they were in different weight classes. I mean, they did not even look like they were the same. second of all I feel like Michael Morales is like the second coming of Anthony

Rumble Johnson He's the power Remember Rumble People forget about this Rumble was a very good wrestler as well Yes And he was a welterweight

At least at first anyway He was a welterweight And so to me Like this guy really reminds me of that But he's got a little bit You know his own flair And he's got judo to mix in with it He had a great idea

Low stance People were asking why didn't Brady shoot Because he'd have to shoot From a million miles away based on how they were lined up. It just wasn't going to work. And so every time he tried to close the distance, he got chewed to fucking pieces for it.

And he took some big shots before the finish. People forget. You remember, he almost got finished earlier in the round and kind of hung on. I was like, all right, maybe he's going to settle here. But there was no even desperation a double leg attempt to sort of just buy time. Dude, you have to, what is the ideal distance

to shoot a double leg? You know, when I run the pipe, Luke, what is the ideal? It's a very basic question. What is the ideal distance? Yeah, I'd say four and a quarter for you. No, the ideal distance is I should be able to touch you. Okay.

This is the distance. You can do it from further, especially if you're going to go with a bent over posture and then run them into the fence. You can go further away. But ideal is the same distance from which you would punch them. So look at how fucking far away he was. That's not just low percentage.

That's no percentage. But either way, it didn't matter. Dude, Morales was probably going to win that one. I like Sean's jab. I like that. He was trying to box in and out. He did look like, you know, prime Frankie Edgar in that regard. But I want to make the point about this clear.

Clearly, at 25, could you put Morales in front of Islam? And would it be fun and interesting, at least for a little while? Probably so. Probably so. But I feel like he needs a little bit more seasoning. Sure. And a little bit more time to really round the corner. You give him Prach, SBC.

How is that not fucking incredible? Or you feed him to Rachmanov. And let's see. Oh, my God. Or the winner of Ian Gary versus Bilal. What a time, dude. What a time. And every time you think we're done with Walter Wade,

like, oh, there's, you know, Buckley's coming up, but then Buckley fades. Here comes Morales. There's just all these new entrants into this division. But for me, personally, I think the one that makes the most sense, I would love to see Prochist fight with Michael Morales. Winner of that can get a title shot. Well, Prachis earned this step forward in the discussion

by what he did to former champion Leon Edwards in a fight that did seem competitive or relief, even though we're seeing that meme going around of Edwards. Leon won the first round. Yeah, with Leon backpacking him, hitting him in the face, and practice is almost like, can we just get this part over with and then get back to where we light up some darts and throw some bombs. Well, we got back

to that point. And it was an absolutely vicious finish with a right cross in which, didn't it look like Leon almost blinded himself accidentally to the punch by putting his hand up, Luke? And then the punch came right underneath and hit the spot. And then he hits his head on the back of the canvas going down.

Yes, he lost to Ian Gary. He did rally and save face. Then he killed Jeff Neal. Now he killed Leon Edwards. I want protest Morales more than I think I want most things in this division right now. Long Island. I do. Best matchup for Morales. I mean, it's got to be the protest, right? I don't think, I said this 10 minutes ago. I don't think either guy really has a chance against Islam right now, so let's just put him together and get a fun match. People want to rush Morales.

I'm high on him, but you've got to be real careful with this stage right now, which, by the way, even if you lost, I mean, you'd be back in a title shot within probably a year or two, right? So it's not the end of the world, but just to give him the, maximum chance to really get there. It's a little too soon. But you were thoroughly impressed on what protested against Edwards. Because he had to fight off some resistance there. I mean, Leon looked back.

The issue for Prochist, though, this is the problem with that win, is that first of all, it was tremendous, dude, and first got to finish Leon with strikes, and dude, it was so heavy, and the fact that he got lifted off of his feet and his head went. It's insane. It's insane. But the issue for me is that neither Jeff Neal nor Leon Edwards, Leon a little bit, is a true kind of duplicative test of what Islam would prevent or sorry it would offer and of course nobody can be Islam but you know Brady for

example would be kind of a close test sure how would you handle something like that so to me I would need to see process go up against someone who can yes Leon could take him down but was just making some errors on the feet someone who's a little bit more durable not on a two fight losing streak now with three somebody who's on the rise can be a real threat consistently with the wrestling. I want to see that. You feel bad for Leon because I didn't think physically

at 34 he was going to be washed. And I'm not saying even that he is, but it's getting closer here. Why is he losing so much? I thought it was a disconnect. We talked a lot about the last two fights, the title loss and then the submission lost to Brady where it just felt

more, instead of feeling like, oh, it was a bad matchup or he caught the wrong guy at the right time, all that stuff, it was also like you didn't see the fire in him to bounce back. and I wondered if there was a mental hiccup. The same hiccups that I saw at times on the rise-up where I didn't believe in him

until headshot dead and until that short little run after where he was a legitimate pound-for-pounder. He looked pretty damn good in this fight until suddenly you're focused on his bald spot and the fact that he's unconscious on the ground, Luke, and then you're like, yeah, these are three losses and two of them devastating.

I don't know if you can put the pieces back together physically and mentally after this type of loss. I don't, you know, that doesn't mean he should retire. That doesn't mean he's not going to win another fight but the other version of him that we used to know he's not coming through that door anymore the reality is he served a really important purpose in essentially putting to bed the kamaru colby era of welterweight and he will always have that and it's really trilogy with ozman hell yeah it's a very important contribution that he made but he is not built

for this generation of fighters wow uh do look what they're doing to i know protest though got a real turn here with this win here's practice talking about wanting a title shot and i have to ask Did you see Michael Morales' knockout? Because he also got one, too. Yeah, you know, Michael is really good. He's young. He's a strong, really strong guy. But I think I still more entrenchending thing.

And I think it's my time. What if they, because I seem like everyone on the internet wants to see you two fight. Do you think that's a fight better when one of you is the champion and then it could be a big main event? Yeah, I think so, but I can fight whenever UFC won, you know, I can, of course, I want to fight for the belt.

But if the AVUFC say you need to fight Michael, you guys need to fight like a semifinal and go to the belt, okay, let's go, let's fight. Okay, I like that attitude. Here's Michael Morales' response to that. The motion for the belt, but Carlos Prates also wants the title shot. He declared himself the most entertaining fighter in the division. We asked him about your fight and goes, you're exciting, he's more exciting,

and maybe eventually you can fight, but he would also be willing to fight you maybe in a quote, semi-finals match to face the welterweight champion so what did you make of his win and his comments Carlos Prattes always says that's the most interesting the play of the category or so obviously I think that you a play was tremendous but the other than it was better and that we care of having to confront to you see the next year so what you think about a semi-final for the opportunity to play for the cinturon you're two

well no important me the OFC is the manned I'm not the who is the manned I'm not that's going to play with this person, you want to no, no. If you're saying, you're going to play with him, I'm going to do it, no matter. And if I'm going to say that I'm a little bit more for the title, I'm going to be able.

Don't worry, there's translation. I'm going to goven. I'm going to appreciate all the opportunities that God. I'm going to make my mother that's enjoying my play, my skinned, that are the people that are the people who always

me accompany. And, well, more than that, if you do the play with him, with Pratt's, with Jan Garry, with Belal, with whatever. I'm going to expect my opportunity and I will accept. I think it's more than clear

that I've done my promise, one of the first round. I've done my promise to win the play at the first round. I've done my part, the other players not did it, so the other players no one? The president says, no? Listen, the UFC owns this one. The UFC makes the shots and makes the calls. They will see who's going to fight who,

and we're just going to follow the super world what they say. And listen, if I'm supposed to fight parrattis or fight Bratis, if I'm supposed to fight Ian, or Palau, whoever it is, I'll take it. I'm not going to turn down a fight. I want to fight for the title. If I need to fight one of them, okay. Listen, I fulfilled my promise.

I said I was going to get a knockout in the first round. I got it. Other fighters didn't fulfill their promise. So whatever the UFC says, we're going to fight. I think that Usman's probably number one has the best chance of getting this. Got company support, all that. I think if Ian Gary wins, he's going to have the second best chance to get the title shot.

I'm not really sure where Shavkat fits in. beyond, I think they're going to make him win one more. For sure. So yes, make this fight. They're hot. People want them. The loser won't fall off for good. You just got to retool. Now you'll have an absolute viable contender in one of these two in Prochus and Morales rather than

what we have now, which is two hot guys on the rise, but you're not fully sure, especially since we did see Prochus two hot guys on the rise. Two fights ago. I mean, that's what this Walter Way Division has given us hot men. Here is Dana on this topic. Are we getting Pradesh Morales next? The rest of the main card, a couple of star-making performances in Mike Morales and Carlos

protest. I know you guys have always been high on Carlos, but to put away Leon like that and, you know, calling himself the most entertaining fighter in the division. Just what did you make of his kind of, you know, like I said, star-making performance out there? Yeah. I mean, listen, when you get these kind of opportunities, you know, like Ewing tonight, I mean, when you get an opportunity, you come to make the most of it. And there was a lot of that on the card tonight.

And then speaking of Michael Morales, not just his performance today, but kind of all week at the press conference, he kind of came off as a superstar. He got most of the questions. He's had the longest media day. There's a ton of Ecuador and media hair specifically for him. So he's, you've got to see money with him. Yeah. Listen, he's obviously incredible. He's 19 and 0. He's cool as hell. And he's got it all. You can check all the boxes with that kid. All right. Let's check those boxes together right there. That was topic number three. Not done with 322 yet, but folks, I'll tell you what's rolling right now, the NBA season. It's rolling. It is. Picture it rolling. Okay.

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pick-6 credits that expire in 14 days, ends December 2nd at 1159 p.m. Eastern time. Terms at pick6.com excuse me, terms at pick6.draftkings.com slash promos. Look, before I get into topic number four, I did forget on that main card. How about that lightweight bout to kick it out? Benil Darius, ended up missing weight,

forcing this to be a catch weight out, but he lost his third in his last four fights, and it only took 16 seconds or 15, I think is what the UFC is officially calling it, as the god of war, Benoit St. Knee, delivered for the third straight time since that two-fight losing skid, both by stoppage and damaging losses,

physically to Porre and Moikano. Now he's got three straight finishes, and he jumped on the cage and did the discount double-check. Is BSD at age 29 all the way back after this? Or do the replays kind of confirm that maybe Benny's chin or ear in this case? This doesn't tell us much. I mean, it's not a question of, oh, I don't believe in BSD per se. It's a question of Darius has taken a lot of damage in his career.

He's lost three of his last four, all three of those via stoppage. All three of those via stoppage. in the first round. He's 36 years old. It's, to me, I have a lot of respect for the career of Benile Darius, but it looks like it might be time to start considering an exit plan.

Luke, afterwards, BSD was talking about wanting a BMF title shot, but here's the deal in my mind. I want to say this to you. If the UFC comes to a point where they realize, and they might soon, that this welterweight division is so stacked, then maybe it doesn't make sense

at the moment for Elia versus Islam. Maybe that doesn't make any sense. isn't BSD rising into a lightweight title shot opportunity against Ilya, one of those just slam dunk bangers that should be the main event of a pay-per-view coming up? I just feel like Tuporia would punch his fucking lights out within the first couple of minutes. But like the Gachi fight, we kind of have to see this, even though I'm already pushing him into a third division fight here, if they wanted to go to that, don't you have to see him against the contenders that are starting to line up?

I know BSD was ranked 14 coming in, and I know that a lot of this seems to be. I mean, look, BSD got dropped on a calf kick. As he was getting up, he got hit with a knee, and then he just uncorked this overhand that just one touch, and Darius was down. Talked about the issues against Dereus in terms of recuperative skills lately. But God of War is marketable. He's tough as shit.

He's going to make it a fun fight, even if you believe that Tuporia carves him up. I still need Tuporia against Sauru Kian or Gachi or Patty or this guy. Well, Sarki is facing Hooker on Saturday. We're going to see, we could see a tour. of Elia in some very interesting fights. You don't consider this one of them. That's what I'm ultimately asking.

Not right now. Okay. Not right now. He's got work to do. Still true, but I don't know if I need him in a BMF title if I just need him against a highly ranked guy in the top ten here. I think he's, I think he's all the things you said he is, but whether he's elite is not clear to me. All right. I mean, he is, whatever I say he is.

Then why would I say I am? Yeah. Let's go to topic number four, and that is the UFC 322 preview. liminary card, main evented in a way in the featured prelim by Bo Nickel turning it back after that disappointing loss to RDR coming off of, to be fair, the disappointing decision when over a party there from Scotland, Paul Craig, this time against Rodolfo Vieira, who maybe was there to have this done against him in a rebuilding effort for Bo Nichols' reputation, just what, nine fights into his MMA career. And the three-time NCAA division one wrestling champion delivered

a high kick knockout in round three that was brutal came right after the crowd was booing for not doing enough offensively and a lot of this fight even though a lot of this fight was Bo breaking Vieira down impressively with strikes there was a lot of circling a lot of killing time the crowd did boo and then we got Bo jumping up on the cage and give him the double middle finger did you like the fire from Bo as much as you like the finish I don't care if he wants to be loved or hated I just wanted to pick a lane it doesn't matter to me either way he's telling the fans to pick a lane that's what the speech was afterwards yeah but you got they'll pick a lane when you do you know what i mean or they'll force you into one i suppose but

either way i i listen obviously the finish is spectacular i'm gonna say did i see a bunch of good things in that fight absolutely he threw more than overhands he had some decent combination punching he took the fight in terms of the wrestling to viera to basically start out the fight right better footwork. There was just a better attitude competitively and a better assessment and use of the tools of his offense both in going back to the wrestling.

I'd like to see a little bit more of it, but I definitely liked what I saw. And in the striking some clear improvements over just that same boring ass overhand in terms of setting things up, which is exactly what he did, those body kicks, B.C. If you go back and look, Vieira has a hand up and then the hand going down because he anticipates

is going to the body, and it comes up the other side. He set that up perfectly. It was brutal. It was vicious by any measurement. So I think this was a good first step in the right direction. He had that slam takedown. But it was just that, a step. A step.

They need to build this, again, I keep saying, with Morales at 25, Bo, I'm not sure what his age is, but still relatively on. Take your time. However, this was not, this doesn't change a lot of what you still learned from the RDR fight.

but it's the path back to erasing that great first step. I did actually like the fire from Bo. Even though I do think some of the criticism is still warranted about the lack of putting all the skills together and he's going to need more fights and maybe more fights like this to keep building it all back up. The very best ones, though, don't live for the fans. I know.

And I do get that. Or the media. But I do get some of the criticisms that it feels like when you hear him talk, even though he says the right things, he said all the right things coming into this fight, there's some disillusionment level that he believes his ability is here and it's not the part I'm struggling with because I'm not saying he's being fake

I think he's struggling with I want to be a humble guy and not get out in front of my skis but also fuck your life I'm better than all of you and these two things are now currently in tension all right let's move on down to Aaron Blanchfield who had that fight against Tracy Ortiz two ranked fly weights looking

after recent defeats it was Rose nominee for Tracy it was of course Menon Faroe in that number one contenders match for Aaron Blanchfield to see who's stepping forward and it was Blanchfield in a big way here by Rear Naked Choke, but look, it did come after almost two full rounds of Trace

Cortez getting the better of her on the feet with the boxing. Very competitive fight, but it was like Blanchfield went this long stretch without shooting at all, even though that's her game. But as soon as she started shooting, the fight was quickly over after that. It obviously catapulted her into

contention. Even Valentina mentioned her name. But are you convinced yet that she's evolved enough through the loss to get to this point because I was impressed with the win. I wasn't impressed with the fight up until the point that she wanted. She was walking into punches over

and over again. The thing that you realize about Aaron Blanchfield's game, why it's powerful BC is she's kind of just a battering ram. Yeah. She just keeps banging on the door until it breaks down. Then at that point, it's off to the races. But to do that, it's a little bit ugly to get there. And I was

hoping to see a little bit of more sophistication in this contest. Tracy also took her down first. Before Aaron even shot for them. Although to her point, you know, she managed it well. But I would like to see her get her head off the center line. She was just walking into shit. So this is the thing. It's like was the rear naked choke that she eventually got, which was, again, didn't have perfect positioning,

but was able to control one of the arms and then get the throat. That was really great. I mean, dude, when she just keeps attacking and eventually she gets through. The problem is against the skilled operators at the top, especially if Valentina stays there, that's a hopeless fucking way of fighting her. So I appreciate how well she did in this contest but the issues that

showed up here would only be magnified against someone like Shivchenko. Skilled operators Is Tracy Cortez overrated? Can we officially say that? Depends how you rated her to begin with. She's not overrated it to me but I didn't rate her super highly. I was more impressed by certain elements of her skills

from the takedown defense to the head movement to the boxing. she did get hit you can see it in her face like it started to add up i didn't like how quickly she succumbed to being put in a situation where she could be yanked back and choked like that she's that pretty quick but it's sort of like she's always going to be overrated and underrated at the same time yeah i mean just judge her by the quality of the wins who did she beat and how did she beat them she tends to fade over the course of about not so much in terms of cardio but in focus yeah and in offensive urgency against a person like blanchefield you can now see that's a really bad matchup

because Blanchefield's the opposite. It's kind of Tisha Torres like in her prime with no power, but has the rounded out skills in the other areas. Yeah, but also Tisha had great footwork and we could keep distance. But that lack of power is what kills. The lack of power was a big problem for her.

So, I mean, again, to your point that you raise, here's what you're observing. You're observing, Tracy Cortez has some real skills. She's a good, or decent anyway, athlete, certainly, and she can do things. Like, she can really take people down. She can put good combinations together She can look the part

But by the time the fight's over You tend to have as many questions As you do answers about what it all means And it never really seems to graduate from that position I think that's a fair way to say it Ethan Ewing stole the show On eight days notice that he has a big ass head and face Doesn't he?

Yes he does and he went in with a big ass performance I was assured he was going to get it I don't even want to say robbed on the scorecards Because I felt like I'm like I don't know It was a close fight in some key areas but I kind of thought they would it would be one of those situations where like hey I want to see him again

I was impressed with that effort no he got the win and it did turn out that it was deserved it in the end against big time prospect despite being 31 years old Malcolm Wellmaker Luke this was refreshing to see somebody who had just fought

an Anthony Pettus's promotion the week before in the main event in a championship fight and turns it around like this to change his life his fortunes his reputation his name and won all in one night and kind of fraud checking

Wellmaker in the process. But then I saw people being like, man, UFC got caught here with the matchmaking. No, I felt like a really cool development happened. And now here's a guy I want to see again. I do think this was a bad loss for Wellmaker. Yeah, he walked into shit continuously. He had several problems in this fight. One was, I cannot, him, Bo Nicola.

But I wasn't all in on him. Maybe that's why I found this reaction. I was, I was intrigued by him. All ends a strong word. He had the same problem Bo Nicol did a little bit, which was neither of them have a jab. It blows my fucking mind. Who is training MMA, especially if you're in your 20s,

early 20s, mid-20s, who is training MMA right now at that stage and you're not making your jab the centerpiece of your offense? Look at me, you're fucking up if you're not doing it. And also head movement, please? Head movement.

The other part, too, oh, this is what killed me about Walmaker. He kept trying to do shoulder rolling. That's what it looks like if someone tries to do shoulder rolling and they don't know how to shoulder roll where they get hit, the entire way anyway, or he doesn't really add anything.

They just kind of move through the process of getting hit. That killed me. He was overly reliant. He's got a devastating right hook. That right hook is fucking, is a moneymaker. And by the way, he rung Ewing's bell a couple times as well, but he overly relied on it. But really, the story is Ewing.

Ewing just took the fight to him all the way through. Had a diversified attack, had a wellmaker backing up, just put punches in his face, even if all of them weren't devastating. And even when he would get lit up, he would have an answer. He would have an answer. And he just kind of broke through. I'm not going to say he broke Wellmaker,

but he certainly put him on a place that Wellmaker was just not expecting, did not seem very comfortable, and just didn't have a lot of answers in the end. Exactly. Real quick, Fatima Klein against Angela Hill. She looked great. I know she lost her UFC debut to Jasmine Jazz DeViscius, came back with two straight knockouts,

and then in here, skill for skill across the board, she was very far ahead of the Angela Hill level and seems to be pointing upwards in this. Beat her everywhere, maybe, could have stopped her or got pretty close earlier in the bout. Shouted out, Hey, Zeus afterwards. Shouted out, hey, Zeus. You know, is an American, so to the extent that

that's important for the industry, something to keep in mind. You see, I thought she looked great. She looked devastating, dangerous, well-rounded. There wasn't a place, and Angela Hill is tough as shit. So, you know, it's a little hard to put her away, and some of the very best in the world have not been able to do it.

But to beat her so comprehensively, says a lot. All right. Let me hear who was your other person to get your attention to shine. Is it a blonde-dyed hair, Kyle Dawkins in this return in which he won? Is six straight second in a row in the UFC there? Is it Pat Sabatini getting a big win here despite some damage? It's definitely not going to be Bison Gersuza-Cai.

Dude, people hate him right now. He acts because he acts like he's Kobe and he's fighting in the G-League. It's like, get it together a little bit. And was he really down on the scorecards in this fight? I mean, McConico was in it, was landing, but I didn't feel like he was like. never thought McConniko was really in it, but... No, he was competitive, but I didn't feel like he was winning. Yeah, I didn't think he was putting it on Souser Kayaev.

But Souser Kayaev just has this kind of attitude, like, I'm above all of these guys. And I'm like, based on what? Because you beat up some guys on Contender Series? Like, who gives a fuck? Anyway, Kyle Dawkus, dude. Even more than Hobocop against Koppilov? Hobocop was good against Koppilov. Koppelov just kind of seems out of it.

He kept, they had open stance, and he kept leaning inside on the open stance and then just getting lit up for it. So he's a little one note with that. But, dude, Kyle Dawkes, again, you know, what does it mean to be Gerald Mearshard, who I also think is sort of getting closer to the end here. He only has 21 career losses, Luke. He's getting a little bit closer to the end here. But, do, Kyle Dawkes got bounced from the UFC, as you mentioned, had a long road back, gets back and has two wins in a row, two first round wins in a row. Two first round obviously finishes in a row. Tremendous return.

And by the way, it looks better. Like, it's not just that he's beating, oh, you're back and now you're beating guys. He's looking smooth and efficient with his boxing. I absolutely think he's brought up. it along. Shouts to Kyle Dawkus. Fun little wind frame. Dude, this was a great night. Even with if you were not entertained, Comane suck. If you lost your bets and you were not

entertaining the final two fights, even with that, this was a well-matched card. I don't really pop for their gate records because I know the prices just keep getting jacked up, but like the crowd was awesome. It was a damn brawl in there for, you know, and unfortunately, didn't look like too many people got hurt that didn't deserve it, Luke, you know, or whatever,

didn't have it coming. By the way, on that note, Javier Mendez was on submission radio today in which he claims that Bill and Danes was showing went to the section where all the Dagestan fighters were sitting put his phone up and was showing an AI image of of Islam and Ali kissing and maybe doing porn and then also was like mocking the religion like I have no sympathy for this guy so do you want to have we do should we have no we do that and have you seen the shit sorry sorry I was jumping the gun right there I loved it long out Luke can I get your closing thoughts on UFC 32 anybody we overlooked here in our analysis or just like

Like, it felt like MMA was back, dude. I don't know. It was a great night. I don't know if it's just because we were there, B.C., but I felt like a new energy, man. It was sick. But I do want to say that shit, what were we just talking about? I'm blanking.

Who else on the card impressed you? I feel like you guys covered everything. It was something else. Yeah, I'm blanking. All right. It was great talking to you, though. I'm glad you're here. All right, let's go to topic number five.

This won't take long, even though the fight took 12 rounds. I got to give them credit here, the rematch. Chris Eubank Jr. versus Connor Ben, the pageantry at Tottenham Hotspur's Stadium felt a lot like the first fight, which to me was the fight of the year back in April. One of the craziest fights of this decade in terms of just drama, presentation. The rematch didn't turn that way despite, Luke, that walkout of, of, of, with 50 cent. That was Chris Eubank, Jr. Yeah.

With his dad next to him, he's wearing a fur coat. Big ass fur coat. 50 cent, walking out in the stadium, like, fireworks go. I mean. He's taking a few L's recently. He went out. He was opposite Mom, Donnie. That didn't go great.

And then here he is walking out with Ubank, who looked terrible. But that moment was awesome. That's one of the better walkouts I've seen in a long time. They set the stage for what they got. But what they got in the end was a weight drain, Chris Eubank Jr. For the second straight time accepting the rehydration clause, this time you saw the effects of it more than his decision win in the first meeting. This one went the distance, but it was a wide unanimous decision win for Connor Ben.

So, Luke, what do we really say about this? Because... What the fuck was that 116 scorecard? Oh, eight rounds to four? Yeah. What four rounds did fucking... Ubank got dropped in twice in round 12, could have been stopped there, was just beaten to the punch the route.

It's like one narrative I'm seeing coming off is, what a waste of time, no need to even talk about it. Eubank was weight drained. Maybe he wasn't weight drained on the level of Oscar against Manny, but he was weight drained and he was really never in this. I also think you've got to give Connor Ben respect because he's fighting against him. some middleweight at 160. Yes, with the rehydration clause,

but he once again was the puncher and took it to him. That's why I picked him to win by decision. I just didn't think it would be this one-sided. Where are you leaning in your, ultimately, what did we learn from this event? People are making the wrong argument about the weight rehydration, because what they're saying is, well, he agreed to it, and if it negatively affected him,

then that's just the risk that he accepted. Now, that is true, and I agree with that part, but they keep not realizing there are a finite amount of times you can drain yourself the way he did to make the first fight and the way in which he did it plus the nature of that fight and then the nature of the controversial amount of speedy recovery he was entitled to with the ambulance not being able to leave the arena how true it is I don't know but certainly at a bare minimum

the weight cut itself and then the brutal fight itself dude when Teddy Atlas says things like guys leave a piece of themselves in the ring every time they go that's always true and that was especially true he clearly is not the same person anymore. He should not be fighting at, well, I mean, he needs to find a weight where he doesn't have to do this anymore because this is a path to nothingness. He cannot beat anyone good in this state at that weight class.

No, he should, if he wants to keep fighting, he should use his name, go back up to 68, take. Totally, totally. So I agree with you that Ben clearly looked ready to go and fine-tuned some things. I absolutely thought he was just a little bit more precise, a little bit more patient, a little bit more careful, but I'm sorry, it takes someone blind to not notice

that Eubank looked like he was moving underwater. And there's no way to watch this fight without taking that into account. Here's Eubank reacting to his defeat. I've been through Hellen back to make it here today. I genuinely thought that regardless of the issues that I've been dealing with, I would be able to go in there and win. Use my boxing skills. Use what you guys saw in that first fight to beat Codden.

From that first round, I realized that I was mistaken. But it's okay. I'm a fighter. this is what I do, regardless of, you know, the dangers and the risk, you know, we go to war. That's what we do. I tried my best. Connor Ben put on a hell of a fight. He did put on a hell of a fight.

Luke, Ben, should get a big fight off of this. This was a comeback, you know, wind, regardless of all that, on a very big stage. Should it be at 47 where he did his best work at scene but had PED issues? Should it be at 54 where when he was, I guess, clean, he looked not the best, but in these, these fights have dramatically recharged his value. I think it's made a better fighter. These are difficult challenges, even with the rehydration, especially the first fight against Eubank. There's a lot of big names out there. How do you cash in on this if you're Connor Ben and you're Eddie Hearn?

I don't personally care which way class it is, but I think if you've been this big for now this long, going right back to 47 seems like a bad idea. I think no matter what, the next fight has to be at 54. Now, how they do that, do they tune up a guy? Do they give him something a little bit more illustrious with an opponent that people really care about? I don't know how to answer that one, but at 47 next seems like suicide. But at 54, we have a lot of names,

but we haven't gotten to the point where they've all fought to figure out who the number one guy is. The two guys who don't have titles, Boots Ennis and Virgil Ortiz, we're talking about sometimes at a higher level than Fondora or Mertazalev. I don't know if any single fight against any of those names really is a event yet, though. I'm going to make something up. You're going to say Errol Spence, aren't you?

Yeah. Errol Spence. I kind of like that. I kind of like that. I kind of like that. I kind of like that. I think I'd be an interesting one. Jermal Charlo?

Okay. All right, I take it. Okay. Those aren't soccer stadium fights, but they're big. But they're big. And also the Charlo's always got a chip on their shoulder. So they'd make it a little bit. would make it spicy. Yeah, yeah. Hey, they tried on Saturday. I don't need a trilogy. If you want to do it at the end. I mean, you make it almost at the end. Even Ben said afterwards, we're done. First win in the family series for the Ben family. Yeah. But even then, they said we're done. And I don't need to see them fight again. No. Turkey T's some big announcements for next year. I didn't think this was a great undercard, but whatever.

Jason Jason Satham was there. Yeah, yeah. Rod Stewart too. We'll get to him. Rod Stewart looks the same in the last 20 years. He has an age in the last 20 years. It's unbelievable. Luke, let's close our topics with this talk. Anymore. It's really

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combat sports beyond that luke i wanted to show you the most viral videos available to a man these days and get your reaction let me get my this one's called have you seen this shit By the way, I have to take a big ass dump when this is over. This is great. Thank you for sharing that. By the way, the no-shit bathroom is back, but still no shit. I'm just going to shit in the sink. Okay.

All right. I'm going to do the Randy Clayd in, was it Kingpin? Yes. When he took a shit in the pisser. Oh, God. Look, this is one of the, this UFC 32 is a big theme on today's have you seen the shit. But how about Hasbula, who is part of the, Why did he have a DoorDash bag?

Well, watch this, Luke. Your dasher sending proof your order was delivered. I don't know, Luke, but it was brilliant. You see how happy he was in the videos of him, like, eating that famous $45 pizza backstage with a beep? The two of them were just found in the corner, like just live streaming. All right, it was very cute. That is funny.

Luke, this was my own cell cam footage from Caged side after the bow-nickel preliminary. This is you. This is me filming this. Watch the security guard right there. The old guy, he's going to get kicked in the face by Dylan Danis coming up. Oh, wow. I didn't capture it in full, but this was... Those are his red shoes?

Yes, this was sort of the tail end of this Danis brawl against the entire extended Islam Mahachep team, whereas Dana said, all the Muslims in the world or whatever he said. He called them the Muslim Brotherhood, which I know he didn't mean bad by it, but that is a specific group. That's not so nice. That is not so nice. So Chonko, A.K.A. John Pork was a big part of that. I saw Muslim Salikoff. He had bloody knuckles. I saw that.

Yeah, we'll get to that. Abukar. Abuqar. Yeah, it was all that part of it. And as we're talking about on this extended, like, this is a stupid story. It was a quick thing. Luckily, no one got seriously hurt. I just can't believe how many people are defending Dylan Danis and trying to completely victimize all those guys. It is true that, like, just because he has trolled people does not allow, is. does not mean that they have a right to physically assault him. I'm not living full on on the creed of what the Augustine's been saying in interviews after of, like, you said one bad thing about us once, next time we see you will kill you. He is right in that sense. But when you're showing up, like, you know, poking the bear.

But right, right. This is my point. If you're coming up and your goal is to, this is the argument against Dennis, which is, he is quite clearly. He's not famous anymore because of his fighting exploits, B.C. He's a provocateur. congratulations you provoked them yes you got what you paid for you this is they don't have a right to touch him i understand i get it i'm not defending it i'm simply saying here in the real world

if you provoke people do they respond yeah so sometimes they do even though danis exited in cuffs dana and the post fight press conference said he wasn't going to press charges a lot of people then journalists even got after me and saying like why didn't you guys push first of all i wasn't even at the Post-Fi press conference. I was doing HQ in the hotel room, but they were like, why didn't you guys push him to see why those guys didn't get arrested? Again, you show up in the fighter seats.

You leave your seats to sit in fighter seats and you're trying to stir shit up. They got kicked out, too. They watched the... They did. They had to watch... So they came back after the fight and then security instantly got all of them out.

Here's a reverse angle where you get to see some of Chonko, a.k.a. Magomed Zanikoff, who really stole this entire weekend. He's got a hat on there, but this was sort of the behind. view of how it did kick off and once it kicked off it got crazy fast

and spread over to the media section spread into the area around the octagon again I'm not saying like this is look there's a chair involved listen I'm not saying this is great from team Islam this is not great behavior but this is an extension of UFC 229 it really is right

also I just want to say Dylan Danis has been involved in two of the most famous brawls in crowd brawls in UFC history yes and he's a he's a clout chaser who shows up at misfits boxing and fights in the parking. Long Island. Where are you on the Dennis equation? I mean, I was oblivious to all this shit even going down

until I saw BC's tweet like two hours after it happened. But yeah, I'm not high on the guy at all. Like I said, you can't assault people for what they say. You shouldn't do it. And if they had press charges, fine. But at the same time, dude, if you try to piss people off. Listen, I had someone explain this to me once. If you try your best to piss people off, you do not get to act surprise when you succeed.

Period. Well, look, John Pork, whether he doesn't like, so technically, look, he doesn't like to be called John Pork, which is an Italian brain rock character. My son's into it huge. I know people are connecting it to the Muslim religion and I get that. But he has become an overnight sensation.

Reality, his nickname is Chonko, which is the name of his village in Dagestan, according to Islam. That's what they call him. His real name is what? Magamad. Zanikov is a form. former, you know, recognized Samba champion. One is Dana-Wi Contender Series.

It's probably going to a good fighter. But I don't think anyone, including him, expected this takeoff this week. When I sat down at Media Day, my first question to Islam was like, is that John Pork over there? And, like, they brought him over. They were kind of having fun with him. Dude, he's a meme, but like to the level of overnight celebrity. Here's him after the brawl posting a picture with Jorge Mosvado with bloody knuckles

that just continues because he beat up a guy most people don't like. And he did get big shots in on that. and here is on Friday at the at the press conference was this no at the way in sorry no this was the press conference on Thursday Thursday's press conference holy shit listen to this reaction it's ridiculous but I love it good for him good for him so even I took a picture and I and people like oh you're being disrespectful calling him John Pork I was like that's all I knew him as, all right? When I took this picture, he was cool, he laughed.

I told him, watch out for Timmy Cheese and whatever. But even if we're going to move to Shanko, dude, this dude better take advantage of this because this is an overnight starter. You can meme your way to start him so fast. Yeah, there we go. I just want to say pre-press conference, they cheered for him probably 10 different times. Like every five minutes, they would start the cheer,

and then he'd walk over and get like a huge ovation. I mean, it's involved in the connected of the overall, like, what the hell are we doing with 6, 7 and all this? stupidness it's stupid as shit sometimes you can use that to uh ride that way and i think he has escalated that uh look elsewhere at ufc 32 real neck recognize real when poiton uh stepped away from his accounting job to take this picture with big a bang lou yeah they ate chowder they did uh jean jalea who was there for of course to check out uh jong weiley he was sitting with uh the leech who was uh big bang big a bang oh cool chinese power yeah you don't have to call

him big a bang. That's how he pronounces it. I know. Does the Leach train with Waley or anything? I know they're both Chinese, but he was like with her at Media Day and all that stuff. So I don't know if he's like with her or what. John Wood was in the corner of Waley. Yes. Yes. Okay. Even though Brad Riddell seemed to do a good part of that training camp

in Thailand. This was the Charles, the Carlos Prattis, excuse me. Marlboro designed car that was making its way around NYC. Prattis said it's not his car, but look, what do you make of this? Protest, of course, also said that the UFC would not allow a tobacco. I mean, that's cool as shit. I've never thought cigarettes

were cool. I mean, excuse me. I haven't thought cigarettes were cool in a very long time, but this is making me reconsider it. Hashtag the fight nerds. He's everyone's favorite fight nerd during a time when everyone's turning on the fightens. Well, he's also winning, so that helps. Okay. Speaking of protest, Luke, everyone loves him even

Ian Gary's son. Leo. Come here. The camera has a question for you. Who is your favorite fighter? How excited. Who is it? Can we switch it? Imagine beating a man up for 23 and a half minutes

and then leaving the fight and your son's favorite fighter is the other guy. I mean, that's the most cuck thing about him, do you know? The other stuff, I don't give me shit about that. Islam Fight Week would not be complete, neither would a Poetan or Chamaev one without picking on D.C., right? Okay. They all call him fat.

I mean, this was Habim. taking D.C. down before you was ready at the practice gym. Let's check it out. Let's go, D.C. Let's go, D.C. Don't push my face, please. Why? Because, how can you ask to grapple and not be willing for your face to get touched?

Oh, you try to bully. This is crazy. You're never going to bully me. I don't need to. I'm not light to it anymore. You're like babies. No. You're not baby no more.

Let's go D.C. They love messing with him. You take mouth. You know. You take mouth. You take mouth. Pakistanis and DC is the best buddy cop shit I've ever seen. Come get him.

Help. Yeah, get him. Go police, brother. I'm telling you, dude, these guys. Don't person. No. No president. Dude, Habib's owner in here, but he's been training, like, you know.

I mean, also, you know, DC is real fat. Yeah, I haven't grappled for two years. Yeah, exactly. Speaking of... These guys, they're broken English. I'm telling you, it makes them funnier and more profound. It's almost like Triple G. but with a harder edge to it, you know.

And then here is when they sat down, Islam had another, you know, intervention about his weight. Brother, I'm happy that day you burn a lot of calories. I always. Always. Always. I lift weights. You comment, you say, this guy work hard, huh?

I'm happy. When I see you post something inside the gym, I'm, like, really happy. Why? Because, brother, people look at you and thinking, this is, like, one of the best fighter of all the them. It was even when I was fighting, people think this. No, when you're fighting, it looks good, man. Nah, I know.

I look good now, too, though. Oh, that's great. That's great stuff. Their whole schick is hilarious to me. Let's go out to England. Fitcheck update on one Versace Rick Reno, Luke, who was called this weekend on X, everything from Timu Elton John to a man

cosplaying as his 60-year-old Nana's handbag. How did he end up here? Turkey's elevation. Do you understand? like this is only a way that you dress if you're you lost a bet right do you think he looks like nana's handbag or what he honestly he looks like mrs doubtfire without the mask right oh ricky missus doubtfire speaking of grandparents it's time for some quick elder abuse luke we haven't had this in a while i do love elder abuse watch out grandpa is on the rascal again

the rascal king do it again. Oh. Okay, Graham. Hit the brakes, please. Hit the brakes. Oh. Oh!

Okay. All right. All right. Yeah, no remorse either. All right. Not giving a fuck. Let's go to the gender reveal, but you got to protect Abuela when you do these things, right, Luke?

What do you think it would be a girl or a boyer? That's a Boela with the thing? No, abuela's in the orange to the right. Okay, okay. That's her daughter. Oh, it's going to be a boy. Yeah, it's going to be a boy. Yeah.

Oh! just macing the fuck out of her with this the great muta mist spit all over your face that's fantastic uh we're gonna also hear about grandma in the back seat you guys ever been smoking a cigarette flick the butt out the window going down the freeway like four or five minutes later you smell something disgusting coming from the back so you look grandma's back there finger in her okay

I don't know what that was supposed to prove Luke are you going to wear this to the Christmas Thomas family Christmas party or no you jingle my bells I'll give you a white Christmas I don't know if my wife would like that too much okay look this was found

on the streets of Miami they call it the Gluck Gluck-Mobile would you drive this that's that Donald Trump bill Clinton was also a big week for Rod Stewart Luke first Stewart's 45-year-old son, Sean, made his pro boxing debut at a misfits card in Nashville. Ben the Bane on the call and watch what happens 15 seconds in against somebody called B-Dave.

Unafraid of the power. Oh! And down goes Sean. B-Dave. Flatlines Rod Stewart's son in round one. He's got a mullet doing the little bit in a boxing match. against a 45-year-old man. With Ben the Bain on the call, dude.

That's as American as it gets. The 80-year-old Rod Stewart was also front row at Ubank Ben, too, in London, sitting next to Pierce Brosnan and Michael Buffer. Dude, how does Rod Stewart look the same as he did when I was a kid? I know. It's fucking insane. Rod's boxing biopic.

Can I tell you like Michael Buffer looking a little bit like the Cryptkeeper these days? Looking like a wax version of himself. I'm not loving it. Stewart's Boxing Biopic also hit theaters this week with Sidney Sweeney playing the lead role, Luke. Why is that fucking dog being held like that? Rob looks like you can still fight, though, right? Just pointing at Sidney's.

Luke, that's Christy Martin, Luke, okay. Oh, yeah, right. That's Christy Martin? Yeah, I thought you'd catch that. All right. I didn't even recognize her. Holy shit. Yeah, thank you very much right there.

Luke, we know you love to read. So how about this for a Christmas idea? How to fart into your hand And release it into someone's nose It's easy reading there, Luke Also, I know you're always talking shit about Zuck But Luke, he will kick your ass According to Dana

By the way, too, people talk shit about Zuckabberg Zuckaberg's actually a great athlete He trains and MMA, he surfs, he does all this shit You know, everybody Zuckerberg will beat the shit out of you, okay? Everybody thinks he's some, you know, some computer nerd Mark Zuckerberg will beat the living shit out of you

All these guys that talk stuff about him on the internet Yeah So who would have won? He'll kick your ass Him or Elon who would have won? Listen, that's Elon is as much older No, he wouldn't

I'd beat that motherfucker within an inch of his life Would you put him on a submission hold? I would fuck him up six ways to Sunday I put my life on that He took Poeton down Oh, did he? Yeah, okay Luke, it's time to play rate that tat

1 to 10, 10 being awesome. They call this one the face-to-face that. Well, that's the worst tattoo. It's kind of well done, right? Why would you do that? I don't face. What are you going to do?

You move closer to the mic. What do you give that a 4? That's a negative 8. Okay. All right, let's go to this leg tat, Luke. There's a lot of detail on this. How would you rate that 1 to 10? You know what?

It's actually a great tattoo. uh that's an eight that's an eight and a half okay okay uh and also luke check out this tip on tip back tat wow man can you imagine going to the tattoo place and being like i need this fucking bullshit yeah uh a little cistine chapel kind of i mean that's a five you know all right look it's crazy out there on the streets these days you got to be careful who you flip off you know you don't want to you don't want to press people's buttons you don't want to show augustine people pictures of Ali and kissing on AI, you know? Warning, driver

may be jerking off. Very possible. That is a real problem. And Luke, here's your shuttle driver today. Your shuttle bus driver is, hug. Look at the unit on that guy, yeah. I'm not sure how helpful that is in getting from point A to point B, but good to know. The Bud Crawford World Tour saw Real Getting Real with him in Ousick.

Listen in. Stop, I'm too happy. I love to hang out of those two Just talking about bitches and boxing They clearly have an admiration for each other Absolutely Raw dog Royvow hit the podcast scene And was asked about a potential fight at the White House

You want to fight at the White House I'm sure every fighter wants that Or maybe not maybe there's some Oh no I don't give a shit about fighting at the White House I want to fight in front of big crowds bro It's like how big can the White House Even like have a stadium Yeah, that's like, is that shit outside, too?

It's like... I'm pretty sure it's only going to be, like, invited people, so it's not going to be, like, true MMA fans. Yeah, yeah, bro, I don't know. I don't give a fuck about any of our political figures right now, and it's like to fight in front of them just seems like some fucking hunger games type of fucking shit. I'm like, I don't give a fuck to a fight in front of a bunch of billionaires

and rich people that fucking give a shit less about me and probably throw them parlays. It's like, fuck you guys, I'm going to fight in front of people that are raw dog fans, our fans of the NBA and, like, you know, that are like, that could relate to me. It's like,

I'm not trying to fight at these fucking asses. Like, you know, all these politicians. So, in my opinion, like, I, I don't,

Luke, that was Hot Chips podcast. Dude, that went viral as shit. Have you noticed that? I have. All the political websites picked it up. Is he the hero we need,

Luke? People are trying to make, there's a little bit of an undertone to politicization of it, but I'm going to point out is. And I don't mean a hero we need on which side.

I just mean, like, should the White House even be a part of it? Well, this is what I'm saying. his request was, I want to fight in front of real fans. Seems pretty fair to me. That is fair. No, no. Luke, playing competitive sports is very dangerous these days,

so watch your kids. Let's first go to the soccer field. Check out this indoor soccer trick shot attempt by this guy. Pretty cool, right? Yeah. What a stupid-ass sport. Oh, yes. I like soccer, but fuck that shit.

What about football, Luke? Check out this touchdown celebration. So that's the Ronaldo celebration. Oh! That's the Ronaldo. No, no celebration. Yeah, he'll never walk again. See you.

Let's go to Maryland basketball. Here's Farrell Payne. Pain being the operative word here, Luke. It's not AI, by the way. Oh, God. Oh, Jesus, titty fucking Christ. Wow. Okay, I don't know.

I don't accept that kind of talk. There's the door. You can get out with that. Are you going to jump me? Dylan Danes style? Yes, I am, actually. It's justified. Also, let's listen in on this referee.

And that sports would like conduct, number 88, on the defense, That's been a scorn five. Tough call there on 88, Luke. Oh, wow, that'll be another flag, okay? Wow, that's... That was the guy he just threw out? Yeah, yeah. Dude, that is fucked up, man.

All right. You got, well, you got any divorce proceedings to show us to? No, but it is a pure sadness. It is a crazy week in politics, Luke. Let's make Red Hats great again. What do you think? I'm sorry, Marha, Marha, there you go. Also, let's close with this.

Luke, imagine if your best friend had gone into a coma in 1998. Okay. And you're just- You're graduated high school. And you're just waking that person up now. Oh, my God. People are still talking about Bill Clinton in that blowjob. Who?

Huh. I'm worried the Twin Towers. I mean, it. It'd be an eye-opening thing to come out of thawing right now, right? And the world has changed so much. It's just, it's tremendous. That's all the shit I can handle. Not bad, not bad.

Not bad. All right. I give it a C-plus. Thank you very much. Hope you enjoyed that. Hope we're still employed. Long Island, Luke, do you want to say goodbye at all to these people? Hey, are we finally going to, because I talked to, I talked to Jose Young's this weekend.

Shout out to him, Mike Bone, Oscar Wild. I saw all the old friends. Aaron Bronstetter, by the way, was wearing a suit? that had like sweat pant pants with a drawstring. The guy's brilliant. I have to shit so bad. Okay. Can we check out the main card minutes prop quiz championship of season two anytime soon?

Yes. So Jose versus Ben should be airing Friday. I'll reconfirm Friday. You know, schedules aligned. But we are planned to do that this week. So that'll go down. Winner that will face you, BC. Once again, reminder, two-year anniversary of the channel today.

So a big day, you know. Congratulations on that one right there. Reach the show at Morningcombat at gmail.com. One more reminder as well. for the merch. Let's go to morningcombat. Dot shop right now. We have November exclusives.

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I haven't heard that in so long. God, that's so gross. 90s thing. That is a 90s thing. Got to get the old turd cutter going. Yeah. That's all we can handle today. For LT, I'm BC. LT, you have to sell anything to anyone?

I'll have a breakdown from some fights on my personal channel during the course of the week. All right. Like us, subscribe to us, follow us, be us one day after you kill us. Thank you so much. This has been morning combat. We're out of here. This is an IHeart podcast.