MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC: Brunson Beats Holland | Volkanovski vs Ortega DELAYED | Vergil Ortiz Jr | Morning Kombat Ep 133

Episode Date: March 22, 2021

Monday morning MK is here. The boys recap the weekend action in the combat sports world. Derek Brunson dominated Kevin Holland. Was this more about Brunson's improvement or Holland's awful night. Who ...else stood out from the card? Plus, Alexander Volkanovski vs. Brian Ortega is delayed due to Volkanovski testing positive for COVID. What does this mean? In boxing, is Vergil Ortiz Jr. ready for a bout with Bud Crawford after stopping Maurice Hooker. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:19 Rise to rewards with the BMO Eclipse Rise Visa Card. Terms and conditions apply. Reveille, reveille, donks. Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life. This is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell.
Starting point is 00:00:47 This is Morning Combat. It is Monday, the 22nd of March, 2021, and it is time, as it always is in this portion of the week, for Morning Combat. Hello, everyone. My name is Luke Thomas. I am from CBS Sports. The gentleman on the other side of the screen, he is from CBS Sports all the way from San Juan Puerto Rico my friend and yours the well I would call you the apathy you're more the Nicky Jam to my Maluma it's Brian Campbell hi Brian Campbell hi Luke I didn't catch all that because of my McDonald's Wi-Fi, but I'm sure it was pleasant and it wasn't insulting at all. But happy to be here, Luke. The 12-day odyssey is nearing completion, but yeah, we're back. Okay? Trust me. We're back. How was your weekend in Puerto Rico? What did you do?
Starting point is 00:01:41 Sun, fun. I got to taste the island, so to speak, Luke. I love that. I got to say this. Look, the good Lord did something special in this. The beauty of this island from the beaches to the mountains, the rainforest, and really the people, Luke, a passionate, loving group of folks. I've been welcomed with open arms, Luke, despite the rental car disaster of last week, and I'm happy to say that I have become one with this territory, Luke.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Did you have mofongo? I have not had that yet. I have not. But, yeah, you know, the food, maybe the food could be a little better, maybe. But, you know, what are we to complain about, Luke, you know? Oh, that's a strong statement. Well, if you've never had mofongo, it's awesome. It's a Puerto Rican specialty.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Okay, well, glad to see you. You know what? I can't tell if it's the white balance on the camera. Did you get a tan or no? It doesn't look pasty, but I can't see it look tan either. No, I did spend the day in the ocean yesterday, but apparently I went a little too heavy, Luke, on the SPF 50, hoping to avoid an outright rock lobster this Thursday night on NBC Sports.
Starting point is 00:02:47 So maybe I should have toned it down. Maybe aimed for a little less pale, maybe a nice jaundice-y mix. But what can you do, right? And I'm guessing that you pee-peed in La Piscina, right? I'm betting you did that. Right? I mean, that's what it's there for, right? Do you think an early man looked around for a port-a-pot?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Can we be honest about the power rankings of where it's the most fun to urinate? Pool is your number one seed. Pool is Nick Saban's Alabama. Can we be honest about that? Luke, do you ever notice that the embryonic womb is full of warm liquid, right? I mean, it's where we're just trained for this. Okay, Luke? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Why is three-quarters of the globe filled with water? You tell me. I'm fulfilling my genetic obligations when I urinate in the pool. I want everyone to understand that. Okay, we have a lot of show to get to. There, in fact, was a lot of combat sports. UFC put on a show. It wasn't the best one, but there are some important topics to get to from that.
Starting point is 00:03:52 We had a bunch. Actually, you know what? The biggest headlines from the weekend, we will not start this way, but I think the most interesting one, certainly anyway, came from the boxing side of things. So we'll look at that. Plus, we have some bad news about a UFC title fight. First things first, if you're watching, please give the video a thumbs up and then hit the subscribe button
Starting point is 00:04:06 Thank you to everyone who is joining us This is of course is brought to you by Showtime If you would like to try Showtime you certainly can you can go to Showtime.com and get a 30-day free trial And I believe they put the graphics up if you get it now before a Bellator You can go to the URL you see right there show.com slash Bellator MMA $4.99 for the first six months. And I keep telling folks, this is not like DAZN where I'm a DAZN customer.
Starting point is 00:04:29 And yes, I watched Virgil Ortiz over the weekend. It was sweet. We're going to talk about it. But when that's not happening, there's nothing to watch. You get the entirety of the on-demand Showtime experience if you're not watching Bellator, which is a ton. By the way, did you watch the, I think it's a three-part series they did on Tekashi 6ix9ine, the making of a supervillain
Starting point is 00:04:48 on Showtime? No, I have not seen that, Luke. Can you comment on it? It's amazing. Giancarlo Esposito, who is the guy who plays Gus Fring in Breaking Bad, narrates it. He also plays Moff Gideon in The Mandalorian.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And he does an incredible job narrating it. And they really tell the breadth of this story. They get all the guys. Not all the guys. They get many of the guys he snitched on. They get his former DJ. They get his former, like, longtime girlfriend who he has a child with. Like, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And they have all this old footage and blah, blah, blah. It is super entertaining, very well made. And, dude, I just feel like Giancarlo Esposito, everything he touches turns to gold. Like, he doesn't fuck anything up that he's in, you know? No, and your passive-aggressive statements against DAZN have not been covered up well by saying you're a customer. You will have a Ukrainian oligarch on line one after the after the show luke okay what do you want me to say like i went if fights ain't on i ain't in it i mean there's just i don't know what you want me to do but there's a lot of akhen barak to digest there's uh you know chris manix our good friend todd
Starting point is 00:05:58 grisham who looks great without a shirt okay hey did you see grish launched a uh a uk-based boxing video game this weekend great great for that guy i love that guy did not see grish launched a uh a uk-based boxing video game this weekend great great for that guy i love that did not see that that's pretty interesting and i do love those guys but you know i i'm just saying you can't watch the making of a supervillain with takashi 69 on the zone so i'm pointing out all right if you want to get some merch and we have we are told that the there's going to be a major update very soon which none of you believe but i'm telling you they are shoving it down. BC, tell them what the truth is.
Starting point is 00:06:26 They're coming on here every week and telling us we got a tidal wave coming. So while you, Luke, were doing your typical pre-show bathroom break, I was talking to the merch man on this Zoom call, and he says that the Merch 2.0, which will be available internationally, is at the printing presses as we speak, Luke. I assumed Showtime had sought out the cheapest Bangladeshi in factory, but apparently it's
Starting point is 00:06:54 U.S. made, Luke, okay? Made in the USA, and you and I will be receiving our first samples next week to wear during fight week of Pitbull Sanchez 2. Showtime Bellator MMA, the debut ahead of April 2nd. And shortly after, Luke, this crap will be available. And I can't wait. We've been promising. I mean, good God, I feel like Geraldo standing in front of Al Capone's vault.
Starting point is 00:07:17 We've been promising this shit for a long time, Luke. But finally, our good friends in the UK, Australia, the UAE, Doha, Karabati, Sao Tome and Principe, Comoros. Okay, okay, okay. Cape Verde. Okay, okay, okay. All of our friends and those will be able to wear our shit. I cannot wait, Luke. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:07:43 All right. And then, yeah, I think that's really about it to get things started. So without further ado, let's. Okay. Topic number one, BC, we start with UFC over the weekend. All right. Well, what happened? Derek Brunson wins in your main event, defeating Kevin Holland via unanimous decision. Not sure I feel about some of the scores, but not going to bicker with it too much. But here's the problem, BC. It's not so much a surprise, I think to some anyway, or even a big deal that Brunson won. I don't think that's what people are upset about. What they are upset about is that Kevin Holland talked the entire way through.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It appeared to be, when I say appear, I want to point out something. I did not listen with the volume on. So I was kind of surprised by some of the online reaction in terms of the severity of the takes. But the takes online, anyway, BC, are mostly that they are really upset that Kevin Holland looked unprofessional, was a lack of seriousness, just seemed to not be invested in fighting the fight, more to be entertaining himself and having fun in there and that really upset people so what's the truth did Kevin Holland shit the bed or is Derek Brunson four in a row now two back-to-back overhyped prospects deserving of more credit well look you know very few things are absolute in this game as we break down stuff so when you make a hard statement as I did on Twitter immediately after
Starting point is 00:09:03 the spout saying basically I hate to say, but Kevin Holland embarrassed himself in this fight. But what that doesn't mean, Luke, is it doesn't mean he wasn't close to a knockout at certain points. It doesn't mean that his strategy of seemingly aloofness and, you know, trash talk, it doesn't mean that there's not a calculation within that. So you've got to understand the nuances here. And believe me, the reaction to this was incredibly polarizing. People calling me racist to people, you know, fully supporting it. Here's what I meant in my take. Ultimately, I do think a lot of what Holland does keeps him loose. I got no problem with that, right? Being almost like he doesn't care. Trash talking. I also think part of
Starting point is 00:09:40 it was an attempt to set up Brunson. I don't know if you noticed after round one, he comes up to Brunson, puts his arm around him, pats him on the ass. It was kind of the same stuff Holland did at the end of the face-off on the weigh-in, where it was sort of like, is he lulling him into a friendship mode? There's some elements to that which is strategic. And considering the fact that Holland, who he did show this at certain points during these five rounds, can be explosive, can end a fight at any given time. I'm not here to say this guy's a clown.
Starting point is 00:10:10 He had no business doing what he did. He has no strategy. He blew it. I'm just saying that kind of stuff works to a point. And when you get to a point where you are ultimately being dominated, was it an exciting fight? No. He was largely being controlled for most of the fight. It's got to be where the trash talk ends at that point and the sense of urgency
Starting point is 00:10:30 kicks in. So look, it made the fight entertaining. And you know me, I'm BC. I love bullshit, right? Him talking to Habib in the corner. Yes, it was entertaining, but this is the biggest fight of Kevin Holland's career, fresh off a 5-0 run from, you know, being a journeyman, we don't really know him, to being, is this guy a sneaky next big thing contender in this division? This was his close-up moment. And the fact that down the stretch of this fight, Luke, I did not see urgency. I did not see a commitment to winning. And even in those final seconds when he's sort of like, yep, it's over, see you later, and he's turning his back and walking away, how else should we react to that? It was an embarrassment.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Doesn't mean he didn't have moments in this fight. Doesn't mean he can't bounce back from it. But this was not a great night, all things considered, when ESPN spent an hour or two hours before this fight, Luke, showing him buying jewelry, showing him buying a shoe collection. And again, I'm not saying a fighter can't live the spoils and do that, but it sort of showed a portrait, right? We don't live with Kevin Holland. We don't know the hard work. We don't know the focus.
Starting point is 00:11:34 All we know is watching those vignettes and then watching his performance in the fight, it looked like a guy who I don't want to say was overwhelmed, but something was off where he didn't put his best foot forward i've given this speech before of course about michelle padeta and some people hated it and they said all bc well look when padeta bit down and in narrowed down the theatrics and focused more on inside the cage he's looked fantastic of late he looks like he could be something kevin holland has amazing attributes inside of him.
Starting point is 00:12:06 He can be the same thing. But there has to be a line, Luke, between I do this stuff to market myself. I do this stuff to motivate myself. But when it comes time to figure out what's happening inside that cage, your intentions have to be toward victory. This doesn't mean, again, that Holland did not have any moments or wasn't close to win in this fight but all things considered when you take a snapshot of what we saw over 25 minutes inside the cage this was a bit embarrassing for a guy who would look to be on the verge of busting loose and breaking forth and in the end this is what we're talking about after the fight you tell me if this is this is a good look i don't think it is all right so i actually don't have a strong
Starting point is 00:12:45 uh a revulsion to it and in part i think it's because i watched the fight without sound and so a i didn't hear him talking and beer b i didn't hear the commentators talking about him talking at times you can see him moving his lips and you're right he had a real buddy buddy kind of body language with him here's the thing i'm up against so answer me for this i'm not saying you're wrong because i'm going to play devil's advocate here because i think you got a much more clarified position on this what is the difference between what kevin holland does and and again i'm not saying there's not i'm asking you to tell me what it is what kevin holland does and not so much michelle pereira but like emmanuel augustus What would you say is the difference between that talking that he does that puts him in
Starting point is 00:13:26 his comfort zone that is unusual and that gets him some wins sometimes, or at least certainly facilitates it nicely when he does win, but isn't a style you would want to copy outright? I realize there's probably a lot of differences, but what would you say? Well, there's a lot of differences there. Emmanuel Augustus did the whole drunken, whatever, what did he call himself? The drunken master. And a lot of that awkward movement and looking like he's turning away,
Starting point is 00:13:50 but then he comes back with a punch, that's meant to distract and set up. And people think this is about, look, it's hard right now when you make a statement like that was an embarrassing performance. I'll let you keep going, but just to clarify you think holland's trash talking he just does it for reasons unrelated to strategy or that it's also strategic or not and i don't know that there's a right answer on this i'm just asking you i think it's a combination of strategy to get in the head of his opponent and to fire himself up because it makes him the most loose so when you make a statement like i did on twitter, again, in 280 characters or whatever, you can't show your full nuance. I'm not saying nobody should trash talk in the cage.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I love trash talk. It's catnip to me. I'm saying when it's not being used to funnel the best out of you, when it becomes a distraction, then you're going to get some criticism right here. I love theatrics. I love trash talking. It got to a point in this fight watching from a distance where I was seeing a guy who wasn't urgent and wasn't putting his best foot forward. I don't think it's necessarily comparable to Emmanuel Augustus who was using that stuff to distract and set up his opponents. I think there were times Holland was doing that. I think Holland got to a point though where it had to be clear to him that he was losing this fight and I didn't see a focus on I need to do everything I need to do to win this now.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That was disappointing. So then you get Dana White saying afterwards, I think he had a mini mental breakdown. I think he froze in front of the lights. I don't know if I'm going to go that far, Luke. But there was a disconnect inside of him where I don't know if he was okay. I came this far. I was on my back for most of the fight. I almost won by knockout. Hey, I'll take the L and move forward. I just saw somebody too
Starting point is 00:15:30 willing to accept that and go, hey, I put on a show. That's cool. At this level, Luke, when you get to this point, it is about winning that fight. I'm all with the theatrics, but the theatrics have to be aimed toward winning the fight. That's why when Michelle Podeta is gassing himself out, dancing to the cage, or trying to do backflips off the cage in the middle of a fight that don't seem to line up with his best foot forward to try to win it, I'm going to criticize you. Because there are things you can do outside of the cage to market yourself, but when it comes inside the cage,
Starting point is 00:16:01 if that's not aiming toward helping you put your best foot forward to win, you're going to draw criticism and by the way me criticism kevin holland is is actually a representation of i believe this guy has legitimate elite talent i want to see him put it together had he not done all that trash talking would he have won it's weird it's weird you keep saying the trash talking it's not the trash talking the talking all all of that all those antics all the things that contributed to it if you put that aside because by the way i went back and i watched his brendan allen fight again and he didn't do any talking there whatsoever trash or otherwise uh he still lost would he have won this bout if
Starting point is 00:16:42 he had not done that i I don't know, Luke. I don't know. You would like to have seen a, certainly, you know, it's not like he's not without holes. You would like to see him have a better response to what Brunson was doing. Brunson controlled this fight with wrestling, but yet Brunson did also receive a lot of criticism for maybe not being offensive enough or looking to go for the finish. It looked like there were opportunities for Holland to try to figure out how to work his way back into the fight and to see how close he came in two different instances to stop him via strikes would a removal of the antics allowed him to focus better maybe but Luke how couldn't you not criticize somebody who's clowning between rounds and yelling at
Starting point is 00:17:20 Habib which again brought entertainment but maybe that's the best time to talk to your team and figure out how to counteract what's actually happening and try to win the fight. Yeah. I mean, I will only have two responses here. It sounds like what people are mostly upset about is not so much that he let a fight get away, but that he just exhibited, he broke code. There was a principle of seriousness to the matter that he did not adhere to it. That's the best that I can seemingly understand from whatever. Again, listening on mute had a very different experience. I didn't think it was great, but I didn't, I was like, whatever. Here's my only response to all of this, which is to say, if it bothered you, the lack of seriousness, to me,
Starting point is 00:17:59 it's like, what does a fighter want? Do they want to really get really far? Is he happy with how far he's gotten? Depending on what his goals are, I don't know whether to criticize him or not. If his goals are to get further than he is, well, then he is just acting buffoonish. If this is really what he wants, then I don't know, live your life. But the thing that I think is kind of interesting to me is the question I asked you last, and I don't know that there's a good answer, but I'm going to hazard one, which is, had Holland not done any of those things, talking, blah, blah, blah, would he have won? And I don't think the answer is yes. You can't really say for certain, obviously. No one really knows. But on this show on Friday, BC, we set up the reality that he has a 52% takedown defensive rate.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Kevin Holland does, probably worse now. Going into that fight, it was 52% over a pretty decent stretch of takedown attempts and then obviously successful ones. You knew he wasn't going to get back up. You knew he's not a strong scrambler, and you knew he doesn't have some game off of his back. You knew a little bit. But what we also said, Brunson has lights out takedowns for the most part and is not necessarily going to be situated here to do a lot of ground and pound.
Starting point is 00:19:12 We literally said all of those things and that it could be a boring five-round fight. Dude, this is not a surprise. I mean, if you don't like what Kevin Holland did, fine. I don't really care one way or the other but i can understand people being unsatisfied with that kind of an approach to the game in that kind of a scenario it just seems really weird and off-putting fine but i don't think that the outcome would have been even slightly different had he tried to not do any of those things that pissed people off and so to me it's, if you want to be mad at Kevin Holland,
Starting point is 00:19:45 last thing, last thing, last thing. I want to ask you a question. Yes, but let me just finish it. If you want to be mad about Kevin Holland, be mad at the fact that irrespective of this approach, he did not have the wrestling skills he needed to on Saturday night, period. 100%. But I want to ask you this.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I think this sums up this whole debate to me. Did he exhaust every option to attempt to win this fight? Because I think that's ultimately what you ask of a fighter at this level. You know, sometimes fighters, it's just not in them to go for broken brawl, but did he exhaust every possible option to attempt to win this fight? My takeaway was no, that's ultimately my issue. not the window dressing of the trash talk and the habib stuff yes that's stuff we pointed to to make our point but my ultimate point is there came a point where he just seemed to be okay with losing do you agree with that at all or are we on opposite ends of the spectrum and or the continent here uh i don't agree sorry i do agree that he did
Starting point is 00:20:42 not put in as much effort as he could have, but you could say that about a lot of Kevin Holland fights, including many victories. You could say that probably about a lot of fighters in UFC, including in many victories. They don't always, every time, give everything they have to winning. I don't think that's a very fair threshold. If you want to say he gave less than even average,
Starting point is 00:21:04 yes, pretty fucking clearly he did not do a whole lot i mean i'm not i'm not going to tell you he deserved to win that was like a great performance it was a shitty performance but i'm just trying to point out what you get with kevin holland here i think people are right to be turned off by what he had done but you got to make a separate argument about why he lost it looked bad in light of a loss its absence does not create winning conditions and so that to me is really the bigger issue here he can strike and he's got a good chin and he is a game guy he doesn't seem to get injured there's a lot of reasons to believe in his upside uh but unless he solves some of
Starting point is 00:21:43 these other problems it's just going to be what it's going to be and then the talking might not really even be that big of an issue anymore then let me ask you a counter question here as well luke because i did get and look i take you know people's responses and comments to me seriously i want to understand what am i missing i did get a lot of people saying bc you just don't get it so let me ask you this sort of devil's advocate question there's a lot of people saying, ultimately, this is what I transcribe from what they're telling me, that, okay, within this fight, Holland knew he wasn't going to beat Brunson because Brunson had that wrestling control. They got to a certain point where Holland realized that. So what he
Starting point is 00:22:19 ultimately did was made himself the storyline so that ultimately this loss doesn't really hurt him as much because we are spending, for example, the opening 25 minutes of this show not talking about how Brunson controlled him to win it, but talking about Kevin Holland. Do you think in sort of a smarter than we're realizing way that marketing-wise this was actually a really strong move that this won't really hurt him as much as we think, that had he done zero of these antics and just stayed underneath Brunson's wrestling control, that his brand would be hurt a lot more than it is now
Starting point is 00:22:53 where we're talking about it like crazy. Maybe a little bit of that. Yeah, I can see what you mean. Had he tried hard and still been dominated, that would have been worse here. It at least leaves a little bit to mystery. There probably is something to be said for that because you can't, I think there are people who are confused about this,
Starting point is 00:23:09 who think that if he had really just gone balls out and tried, he would have won. And so I think if you can curry some kind of support with that crowd, that might help you long-term. Sure, that's fine. But there's no denying that whatever visibility he gained from this, he squandered. You can't argue that he meaningfully added a fan base or whatever ones he had he appealed to
Starting point is 00:23:30 or that he raised his stock as like a figure of attraction that you would want to see i don't think it's you know ruinous or anything like that but this this fight didn't didn't contribute to that direction that's all by the way brunson did look pretty fucking good, dude. Like, I know he had problems in the second round. I get it. He didn't do a lot of passing. The guy's got 100% takedown defensive rate, won four in a row now, two over hype prospects. Like, I don't know, man. I'm not saying he's fully reformed, BC, but like, what's the difference between the Brunson of old and this one? I'm not necessarily seeing a bunch of new wrinkles but i'm seeing a bunch of things where he used to make mistakes all of those are gone it's a lot more of a concerted smart disciplined thought out game you gotta like it it was
Starting point is 00:24:17 efficient right and it wasn't as if brunson didn't get into danger where i thought there were two separate times maybe it was around two and four i forgot specifics but where i thought there were two separate times. Maybe it was round two and four. I forgot specifics, but where I thought he was on the way out. I'm like, I've seen this story before, right? I like what he's doing. And look, there is a lot of criticism coming back at Brunson. I mean, people are almost discounting this performance altogether to just say, you know, he stuck with the one thing that was working and man, he bore us out holding on to it. I don't necessarily see that. I see a guy who at 37 has figured out how to get the best of what's left of him to his belief. He's at maybe the best point of his career in terms of the full understanding of the game mixed with the hard work, the experience. And I
Starting point is 00:24:57 would agree to that. Could he have done a lot more to go for the finish and all of that? Possibly. But Luke, I don't think he's at a point in his career where he's going to wow us or is trying to wow us. He's trying to win fights. So when you understand who Derek Brunson is at 37 and what he's been through and what he learned about himself and the losses, altogether I'll say, look, this was a solid performance. No, it wasn't entertaining as crap. It didn't lead me to believe Brunson is this much closer to beating an Israel Adesanya
Starting point is 00:25:26 in a rematch to win the title. But he is still evolving at small increments. And when you win four in a row, which he's done, and if you keep doing that against top five guys, you're going to get there eventually anyway. So let's not call him John Fitch at the end of the day. Let's also not say this was
Starting point is 00:25:42 sizzling. It was workmanlike. He did what he had to do to keep Holland's best chances away from winning. And at the end of the day, he survived in advance. And I think that's when you're 37, Luke, that's what you need to do. By the way, before I get dead wronged, Holland did take down Brunson in the fifth, which busted that 100% takedown defensive rate bracket he had worked up. But still, in general, very, very good takedown defensive rate bracket he had worked up but still uh in general very very good takedowns and look before i get a uh before i get the takes of you know bc standing on the porch
Starting point is 00:26:11 giving the old white guy take do you agree that the video packages of holland like didn't necessarily show the greatest light of a guy focused on on winning i know those are just you know hobbies outside the cage but i took away from that that you know, I hope this guy's not spending all his paychecks right now. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. It's like, you want to be very careful about being in a scenario where we're just judging everyone else's purchasing decisions. Like if we were subject to that kind of scrutiny, you know, I'm sure there's going to be a couple of things in your ledger. You're not exactly going to be able to defend for public consumption reasons. So in that sense, I want to be very clear.
Starting point is 00:26:48 But on the other hand, it was like, okay, but it's one thing to go through someone's bank statement, and it's another one to take part in a shopping spree that's on videotape. Where, by the way, they had to do multiple takes of it because they got them going into the store, then they got the camera crew to walk in the store, and then we've done this. We see then you walk in the door, and they splice all the film together like you're taking part in that and i get that they're taking part in something that's wants to promote the fight but you know that's a choice too on his part so you just get a weird feeling it's like okay you're a young guy you're a great prize fighter you had a sick 2020 you want to buy some shoes okay i'm not going to judge it you want to buy shoes and you want to buy a ring and then the ring is uh you know it's specialized and everything and you're like i don't know i don't want to judge a dude but like the total
Starting point is 00:27:33 package of it all little red flaggish little red flag a little bit yeah i will say this um because again bc likes rebels, right? I like a lot of what Kevin Holland brings to the table from a marketing package. Believe me, that's why it kind of hurts me to be like, man, he kind of embarrassed himself. But he did. I actually liked his reaction, Luke. I don't know if you saw that video. I think he put it out on Instagram where he's basically like, I'm going to keep talking, you know, and if you don't like it, deuces.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I actually like that. Even though he's basically talking to me, he's like, look i'm gonna do me and i think he should luke i also think he should look a little bit closer and learn from this because here's a a very exciting striker who who is at his best when he is loose and free and as long as he can just sort of uh you know bring that in just a bit i think he's going to continue to be able to climb and find out how good he can be you know the last thing on is you know what reminded me of when he talks like that that's what like um that's what people do when they spar you know i mean sparring is not a lot of talking i mean this is even by that standard excessive but if you're talking to
Starting point is 00:28:37 someone the conversation could be anything like nice shot uh if you hurt someone are you okay before you continue um you know I mean there's any kind of small little things that are exchanged because it's sparring is important and it can be you know certainly can go wrong if you're not paying attention obviously but in general it's that's supposed to be a little bit less serious than the actual competitive side of it he's like dude he's he's talking a lot like a dude who is annoying you in pornos i've said this before like just constantly jibbery jabbery it is um i had to mute it i had to meet him like me in the pre-show
Starting point is 00:29:13 luke when you like me during the pre-show uh warm-up when you kind of told me off twice really unnecessarily i didn't tell you off i was just saying you were the Kevin Holland of the show because the river of inane shit that was coming out of your mouth pre-show was distracting and I was trying to get into the zone. But BC, that out of the way. We have 20 fucking minutes on this thing. Let's go to point number two if we can.
Starting point is 00:29:39 We'll stick with the card for right now, BC. All right, so Kevin Holland, Derek Brunson maybe wasn't the most thrilling thing in the world. That's okay, but maybe right now, BC. All right, so Kevin Holland, Derek Brunson maybe wasn't the most thrilling thing in the world. That's okay, but maybe there was, BC. Who else on the card from UFC Vegas, what is it, 22 at this point, whatever it was, stood out to you, and why? I was disappointed, certainly,
Starting point is 00:30:00 when that co-main event fell apart with Gregor Gillespie and Brad Riddell, and it did sort of damage my expectations for this card. I'm going to give the card in general a lot of credit, though, because it was knockout after knockout. A lot of these undercard ones, Luke, hopefully will resurface today on Have You Seen This Shit. But I really like Max Payne Griffin's job getting up to the co-main event, elevated up when this original co-main fell apart. And then to see Griffin's comments afterwards that, Luke, it was essentially his dream as a fighter.
Starting point is 00:30:29 We remember him as being a guy who's alternated wins and losses, you know, hasn't really been able to put it together yet in the welterweight division, went in there against a game in Hungary, Song Kanan. But, Luke, I liked his story, basically, if he was, you know, praying to God and saying, you know, my next goal is to get to that co-main event, and it happened this week. But, Luke, I liked his story, basically, if he was, you know, praying to God and saying, you know, my next goal is to get to that co-main event, and it happened this week. You know, it was like his prayers were answered. And, Luke, he grasped that opportunity, and he showed some power,
Starting point is 00:30:57 and it was a very strong win in getting that knockout, one of the highlights of the night, with that first-round finish of song there. How much do you think Max Payne Griffin at at 35 is it too late here to put something together to go on a run luke because i i sort of like the overall you know the the mindset the focus and then the finish in this one i tend to think we've not seen the best of him so if you're asking is this about to be a stretch where we might i I'm pretty optimistic about it. How far he can take it, do I think he can become champion? I don't know that we've seen enough to justify our belief in that.
Starting point is 00:31:32 But you're right, I do feel like he's poised to make the most noise of his career to date. How about that? Something like that. He did look really good. He seems to be in a flow. Everything just seems to be working for him right now you know all right so for me i will go with adrian yanez yanez i went to 2-0 in the
Starting point is 00:31:55 ufc with a third round knockout over gustavo lopez yanez looked really really good got tagged a little bit he's still working his way through obviously obviously, his own game and getting better, but really crisp boxing, great decision-making, great timing, not a lot of wasted movement. Really had Gustavo Lopez thinking through problems too slowly. He was seeing everything, reading everything. Lopez made it about as hard as he probably could have, so credit to him for going out there and trying, but he was up against it with a guy like Yanez. Keep your eye on him. He appears to be somebody who might be making some noise in the future.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Right, BC? And look, you and him had a little exchange on Twitter, right? I wonder if he's watching right now. War Yanez, bro. He might. He might be. Yeah, I guess he follows me. I didn't know. And I said something nice about his timing because his timing was ridiculous. out war yanez bro he might he might be yeah i guess he follows me i didn't know and i said
Starting point is 00:32:45 something nice about his timing because his timing was ridiculous if you look at the ko shot bc from the one obviously the one that put him out lopez it lands when lopez is throwing a big punch and lands right when he gets square in other words it catches him right in the dead middle of his attempt. Just really impeccable timing. And I shouted it out. He liked it, I guess. So, yeah, pretty great moment from that. And, Luke, anybody who wonders our thoughts on that women's strawweight bout,
Starting point is 00:33:17 Montserrat, Cornejo, Ruiz, or whatever her name is against Cheyenne Bays, check out Have You Seen This Shit later in the show. Luke, that was a wild ride. And, hey, how about Tui Tui Vassa there sending Harry Humbuckler to the deep, dark depths and then probably taking a crap in the shoe afterwards, Luke. Well, I will say this about Tui Vassa, man. It is win or lose. It is fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And I do wait, you know, wait by the screen for hopes that he'll drink the Shoei afterwards, Luke. I don't know if we'll ever see Harry Hong liquor again. I don't know where they found that guy, Luke, but he tried to bring it, and Tuivasa sent him there. He sent him, yeah. Yeah, not a great fight. By the way, it's not Cornejo. It's Conejo, which means rabbit in Spanish. Yes, you got something good for her. Have you seen this shit? What did you think of her tattoos? It's not Cornejo. It's Conejo, which means rabbit in Spanish. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:06 You got something good for her. Have you seen this shit? What did you think of her tattoos? Conejo. Those are wild, Luke. Not only the tattoo on Titi, but the ones on the back of the thigh when she's rolling on the camera. You know, it's art, bro. That's art.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Okay? I mean, don't ask me. You're the ink connoisseur, LT. All right? Check out the forearm, brother. Yeah. A lot of tattoo culture is... A key part of tattoo culture appears to be overlapping with horror fans.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I'm not into the Pennywise. It was a good tattoo, but I'm not into the Pennywise tattoos or, you know, Freddy Krueger and shit. I'm not into that kind of thing. That's not for me. Okay. let's go to point number three this is okay you into anime by any chance luke mma and anime have a weird crossover i don't get it i don't get it anime and what does anime and mma i don't get it yeah it's just the new generation i'm not into i'm not into that shit all right bc i've bad news for you i know that brad riddell was supposed to fight gregor gillespie at the co-main event over the weekend it didn't happen and i know that he didn't do that
Starting point is 00:35:19 not because he caught covid but he was traveling with alex Volkanovsky, who he is sort of teammate slash coach with. And Alexander Volkanovsky, your reigning UFC featherweight champion, has tested positive for COVID. Now, here is the interesting part. I want to be clear about this. To our knowledge, take that for what it's worth, he did not get it from breaking protocol. They didn't take their masks off and go to a Buffalo Wild Wings. They had done everything that they were asked to do in going through transit and getting here and blah, blah, blah. So no one really knows exactly how he got it inside of this either travel experience or this bubble or wherever the transmission occurred.
Starting point is 00:36:03 But it occurred. So now that fight between Ortega and he, that was supposed to be this weekend if memory serves, is now delayed. We don't know how delayed, but BC, I'll go to you first, please. Your overall reaction to this shitty news. I'd like to see their flight plan. Did they stop in Miami by any chance on a layover on the way in Luke super spreaders unite yeah it's disappointing Luke
Starting point is 00:36:31 because obviously because UFC is on such an incredible roll right now we're all waiting for 261 with that insane triple header there and 260 looking strong with Stipe Francis too and I really wanted to see this look it's still
Starting point is 00:36:45 available on Morning Combat on the YouTube page. My interview with Brian Ortega, which Luke was, was a wild one. Okay. That man is, he's focused. He's either focused or he's lost something up here. Luke, that was an intense interview. We talked Halle Berry. We talked a lot of stuff. I loved it. But in terms of this, this Luke you hate to see it and hopefully as it seems they're going to reschedule it soon I mean what else can we say to that does this bump Tyron Woodley up to the co-main here against Vicente Luque in your eyes it might but hold on let's stick with this for a second does it I mean here's the thing about these like shows they're going to do one in Houston now, too?
Starting point is 00:37:25 Again, dude, I don't know what Florida is going to look like. And you could say, oh, look at Miami. Okay, well, that's not Duval County. I don't think Duval County is doing great. I should be clear. I don't think it's prudent to be putting on shows. But let's see. Before we all freak out, let's just see exactly where the numbers are at that time.
Starting point is 00:37:42 But here's the deal. It's not just an issue of is the audience going to spread it to each other this is the real reality you got a lot of international fighters all over the ufc and some of those things take place in fight island but a lot of it now is going to increasingly take place in the united states it's got a much more let's say lax attitude towards these things than other countries dana white wants to take advantage of those lax attitudes and if a fighter gets it, dude, doesn't matter if they get sick,
Starting point is 00:38:08 doesn't matter if they feel fine, you get this shit, you are off the card. That's the really, if having a shared destiny is not enough to make you care about not spreading COVID to other people or getting it and then potentially spreading it maybe the idea of your fight cards being ruined might and I think
Starting point is 00:38:32 that this is a situation where dude I bet Volkanovski and Riddell I don't think that they took that shit lightly I bet that they did what they needed to and so you have to wonder how the fuck did they get this because they know too you get this does not matter how you feel they are not going to let you compete you are off the card it has majorly impactful results and dude brad riddell you can understand this he just had a kid his wife just gave birth i think like a month or two ago maybe even less than that now what does he do does he doesn't get a paycheck. Does he go back to New Zealand, go back on two weeks quarantine, wait?
Starting point is 00:39:09 Does he stay here and then get put on another card and then go back and miss a month of his child's life? Like, I feel terrible for Brad. I mean, Volkanovski's got kids, they're a little bit older, but you can see, dude, just testing positive is fucking devastating, I feel, for these guys. But we have got to work in careful, careful, careful environments. Yeah, it's going to be an interesting next few weeks because, you know, look, I was pro UFC taking a very bold move for 261, putting it in Jacksonville, doing the full arena, closed arena for the first time, 15K.
Starting point is 00:39:42 We know that whole story luke i'm wondering though and you know even with ufc's incredibly safe and responsible methods of testing of spending the money to quarantine of the all that stuff through fight island and what have you how many more of these main and co-mains are we gonna you know could we lose ahead of 261 before this starts to look like a bad idea and i know that people have wildly different views on this. You and I, to some degree, have different views. But obviously, a lot of our fans are just sort of like, what? COVID, what?
Starting point is 00:40:15 So I get that people are all over the place. But, Luke, how bad could this get? You know, how much of a super spreader event could 261 be? Is this the right time? I mean, you're never going to know when it's the right time until you go for it. I really just hope above all that these fights stay together, that obviously the fans are safe in the building.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I don't know, Luke. It's tough. It's tough, man. It's tough. I mean, listen, again. Luke, this is my first global pandemic. You know, I don't have a lot of reference points. Let's just see where things are in Florida in a month.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Or I should say in Duval County and in Jacksonville specifically. Let's just see how it goes. You know what would be a great documentary? MK following you to Jacksonville. That is must-see theater, Luke. Without a vaccine, I'm not going to fucking Florida. Sorry. Without a vaccine, I'm not going to fucking Florida. Less than Jake, can you get on a plane? Sorry. No.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Without a vaccine, I'm not going to Florida. No. This diseased state. Well, luckily, Luke, didn't you get pricked already? Didn't they prick you yet? No, not yet. This week. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:17 All right. Get that vax, buddy. All right. Yes. I guess we'll have to see. So let me ask you this. Where should they put the fight? I mean, do you want to see it next week could they how long do they have to delay if you test positive
Starting point is 00:41:30 for covid i think it's usually like two to three weeks see i feel terrible for brad woodell i don't know what the fuck you're supposed to do now man it's a mess a mess yeah yeah that's my that's my take you're damn right it is luke okay thanks very great contribution okay uh real quickly bc let's now go to the world of boxing which we're putting it later in the show but honestly i thought it was a little more entertaining this weekend in general so virgil ortiz jr the golden boy golden boy now that canelo is no longer i guess ryan garcia might be but certainly virgil ortiz a bit of a head turner in a number of his own respects. He fought Maurice Hooker and won and stopped him, I think it was inside the seventh or so, something like that, and just did it with, he was tested a little bit, but he shined.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I thought he passed this test with flying colors, BC. So number one, your reaction to the win over Hooker. But the bigger question now is, okay, do we have another big player at 147 pounds? Is this a guy who can really get some serious work done at the top here? He just might be. So should a fight between Ortiz Jr. and Bud Crawford be next? Well, let me pause the Bud Crawford part of it to say, look, this kid's 22 years old, Luke. He is the real deal.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And this is why you book fights like the Maurice Hooker fight. And again, I know it played out the way we ultimately thought it would, especially because even though Hooker had one loss, that one loss came against Ortiz's stablemate, Jose Ramirez, your unbeaten unified champion at 140 pounds. And in a lot of ways, Luke, that Ramirez fight looked like this Ortiz fight where hooker is tough enough, hits hard enough and has that sneaky long reach. He had a four and a half inch reach advantage on Ortiz where he is going to make you fight. He's going to be in that fight, but if you're good enough, ultimately you can stop him. So this is why you book these fights.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Because Ortiz not only had the result, which was best case scenario, but he had to work for it to earn it. I love that at the end of the fight, Ortiz had swelling around both eyes. Why? Because he had to go in there and fight for it. Hooker can punch hard. He's a smart boxer when he needs to. He stayed on the outside of that jab at a lot of times and i just thought ortiz top to bottom luke showed you exactly what he has look i mean if he was perfect
Starting point is 00:43:52 and didn't get hit he wouldn't be that exciting his ability to balance not not sim not exactly similar to a triple g they got different styles they're different fighters but one thing about triple g in his prime luke was he was able to stand in the pocket and brawl with you, yet really not take a ton of damage because of how responsible his defense was and how good of a boxer he was. At 22, Virgil Ortiz Jr. has an incredible understanding of boxing. To be able to get on the inside, stay behind that high guard, not get beat up or tagged a ton, go to the body, do a lot of great stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Has this show fallen apart again? I mean, what is going on with this McDonald's Wi-Fi? All right, we're reconnecting here. I don't know if we're live here. I mean, you know, I could just put my camera on. Do I have pit stains again? There he is. Yeah, you got some pit stains for real.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah, this Puerto Rico pit stains. Yeah, they heard you pit stains for real. Look at this Puerto Rico pit stains. Yeah, they heard you the whole time, dude. The audience heard me the whole time. I've got pit stains in Puerto Rico. So my point here, Luke, is that Ortiz has so much savvy and veteranship to his young game. I love everything I saw. I love the adjustments he made, the power he has in the end.
Starting point is 00:45:04 He made this a firefight because that was, in a lot of ways, his best chance to get Hooker out of there. Get inside under the jab and show us what you're made of. Luke, from what I saw, he's made of the goods. Is he ready for Bud Crawford now? I don't know, but the fact that he's basically looking around at the landscape of the type of fighters he has access to in the DAZN silo, right? Not a ton of welterweight stars because if you're looking at the welterweight division, the star division of this sport, it's Terrence Crawford on his own island and it's everybody else under the PBC banner. And the fact that we might be angling toward Bud Crawford right now,
Starting point is 00:45:41 I love the fact that he's like, I don't know if I'm ready, but I am going after it. I want it. He was somehow humble in the after interview and aggressive. And Luke, is it sad that both Spence and Bud are in the same arena on Saturday night and that they both got interviewed and basically were like, I'm done with that fight. Forget it.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Is that a sad editorial on boxing? You're damn right it is. I mean, screw that, right? We've already seen recently Fury Wilder double network pay-per-views come together. It's bullshit. We're not going to see Spence versus Crawford next. But if we get Bud Crawford versus
Starting point is 00:46:17 Ortiz next, if Oscar and Bob can find a way to make this work, Luke, that is a must-see fight. You can't favor Virgil Ortiz. Luke, that is a must-see fight. You can't favor Virgil Ortiz. No, you certainly can't. Bud Crawford might be the best fighter in the world, right? But the fact that he's got the hotspot to go after it,
Starting point is 00:46:34 I love this kid. I can't wait to see how good he can be. So basically the deal is Golden Boy and Top Rank will work together, but Top Rank and PBC won't. Is that the idea? Well, they did for Fury and Wilder,ke it's always case by case i think it does have a lot to do with bud crawford's contract coming toward the end in october will him and top rank be able to repair it right there's a lot in the air right now okay i think bud crawford could fight all those pbc guys but he may have to
Starting point is 00:47:01 go to the pbc to do it but if our in between if crawford's last fight under top rank presumably is a joint fight with ortiz let's super spread that shit luke let's get in the front row you and me arm around each other brother let's enjoy this okay i would i would love sorry i kicked my camera here i would love i would love to go to that fight um vaccinated obviously but uh okay so let's think about this for a second so if you're Virgil Ortiz why would you call out Bud Crawford because you're only 22 maybe you can beat him maybe you can't it's certainly interesting but the other options you have there are not that like I I feel like Bud Crawford's got more options even even on his own island, than Virgil. And I'll tell you why. Well, you said no, so tell me why you couldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Because who would Manny Pacquiao make a fight with first, Ortiz or Crawford? Feels like Crawford, right? Well, the problem is the only free agent welterweights outside of PBC who matter right now, because look, you know, Amerikans on the way out, all this stuff, is Mikey Garcia and Pacquiao, and they seem close to wanting to fight each other. So neither, Crawford's already ran through the top-ranked stable two, three times.
Starting point is 00:48:12 This is why this is just kind of perfect, that they both need each other, meaning Virgil Ortiz and Crawford. You could argue that Virgil doesn't need him yet, and at 22 could keep climbing the ladder, but, Luke, how many B and B- and C-plus guys do you need to knock out before you want to find out how great you are? It's time for Virgil Ortiz, even though he's only 22, to find out how great he is.
Starting point is 00:48:33 The fact that Crawford is standing there and seems willing, and do it. And here's the cool part is that, you know, Ortiz just fought Hooker, who's trained by Bomack, Brian McIntyre, who is also Terrence Crawford's trainer, right? And Bomack was in Hooker's corner when he fought Jose Ramirez, who has Robert Garcia, who is Virgil Ortiz's trainer. So there's a lot of like, you know, it's almost like this fight has been set up
Starting point is 00:48:58 and it's time to find this out. And look, this is by far, on paper, the toughest challenge Bud Crawford would have had since moving up to 147 pounds. I mean, it is just a perfect fight in so many ways. You would favor Bud Crawford almost even solidly, but this is the type of guy who's going to get inside and make Bud be nasty. So you want to see that. Luke, can I get your opinion on the Maurice Hooker interview with Chris Mannix after the fight? Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:49:23 I didn't see that. I turned it off after the fight. Did you see that? I didn't see that. I turned it off after he lost. What happened? Okay, so Maurice Hooker not only succumbed to body shots when he was knocked out, but he hurt his right hand in the process. So he had his right hand all bandaged up, and Mannix was like, was the knockout because you were hurt or because you hurt your hand? And so Hooker's kind of explaining it, and the crowd starts to boo him, Luke.
Starting point is 00:49:44 And he stops in mid-interview with manix and he's like everybody booing me fuck y'all i'm a warrior and luke he left the interview stepped through the ropes and started to like go at the fans and they had to hold him back i was like you remember you know that scene in white man can't jump when uh marcus johnson is in the crowd during the two-on-two tournament and the tournament turns into into a fight, and that little white guy's like, oh my god, we're going to lose our sponsors, and Marcus Johnson's like, yeah, yeah, that's what I was like watching that shit. Get him, yeah, that was great, Luke.
Starting point is 00:50:14 That's a good poll. I did not see that. It reminds me of Al Iaquinta after he fought Jorge Masvidal in Fairfax, Virginia. You're going to boo me? You're going to boo me? Yeah, I remember that pretty clearly. Yeah, I don't have a reaction to it. I'll sell you a condo,ax, Virginia. You're going to boo me? You're going to boo me? Yeah, I remember that pretty clearly. Yeah, I don't have a reaction to it. I'll sell you a condo.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I don't have much of a reaction to it, except to say Virgil Ortiz versus Bud Crawford. BC, can you put a likelihood on that for 2021? Well, you know, boxing's got tricks, Luke. I don't know Terrence Crawford's current mandatory situation. But look, if you're Bob Arum,
Starting point is 00:50:48 and you're not sure if you're going to lose Crawford to the PBC, maybe the best thing you could do is make a fight with somebody who's not in the PBC. Because my argument as to why we will not see Spence versus Crawford now, Luke, is why would you basically give the PBC a fight when he's not under contract with them as, like, an advertisement for them to just sway him and take him so then after Spence, Crawford could fight Porter and Danny Garcia and all those guys. Yeah, I think it's very likely.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Very likely we see it this year. And, you know, I would jump out of my pantalones, Luke, to see that shit. Yes. Yes. Yes, Luke. I see that shit. Yes. Yes. Yes. Luke, I got to get some mofongo. Motherfucker, I got to get some mofongo. Mofongo.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Not mofung. Mofongo. You got to put a little effort into it. All right. Last but not least, BC. I watched this because why not watch it? It was funny. I was actually, I never go to Georgetown because I fucking hate that side of town.
Starting point is 00:51:48 But I went over there and I had to shop with my wife and i made a deal with her because the one place she wanted to go a shopping store had uh i think it was espn or whatever version had it on and so i watched artur beterbiev or better beef or whatever face against this german denies dinez and he fucking demolished him. It was not especially close. It went a little bit longer than I thought it might. Jesus Christ. This was uninteresting. He looked to be, but Tara BF,
Starting point is 00:52:13 whatever in tremendous physical condition, your boy, Joe Tessitore was taking his pants off. Talk about how much muscle this guy had. I couldn't believe I was like, Joe settled down. My guy, he is jacked,
Starting point is 00:52:25 but Jesus. Okay, dude, did you learn anything after this 18 month layoff well luke i don't know if you i think we learned a couple negatives unfortunately he won handily but look dinus was a was supposed to be a lamb you know ready for the slaughter i'll give dinus credit he he pressed he you know he got for the slaughter. I'll give Dynas credit. He pressed. You know, he got knocked down early, but kept coming. Unfortunately, Luke, he showed his layoff is the best thing I can say. It had been 18 months
Starting point is 00:52:54 whatever since Better Beavitt fought. He is 36 now, so I think they accurately portrayed in the build-up to that fight on the broadcast that it's time. He's going to have to package some fights together. We know that if Joe Smith Jr., the big punching Long Islander, who has a belt at once, or he's fighting Maxim Vlasov coming up, if Joe Smith wins that fight, he'll bring his belt into a unification
Starting point is 00:53:15 for three of the four titles. So that could be a fun next fight for Beterbiev, Beterbiev, you better believe it. But Luke, he wasn't completely sharp. He had his moments he never got into trouble but he did get hit with more shots than maybe he should have against the guy of adam dinus's quality but you know all things considered there were no scary moments or major hiccups and this guy is really good and i hope he can stay busy and show us it luke did you happen to see the pre-fight interview involving Mark Kriegel, GSP, and Betterbeave?
Starting point is 00:53:49 And I didn't know that GSP and Betterbeave, who both live in Montreal, were like best bros training at the same gym. They're like, you know, peanut butter and jelly there. It was pretty fun to see. I shared that video on YouTube like two weeks ago. I'm glad you saw it. Luke, I don't really search out your Twitter account because I get all the good stuff through text and I just, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:10 I filter that shit. Latina big booties on this side, real weird reactions to people shitting their pants on this side. You know, people don't look if people only knew how uneducated your text mannerisms are, you know, they think I'm the reject in this relationship, okay?
Starting point is 00:54:28 I do send you filthy, filthy things via text message and DM. I send horrible, horrible messages to you every day. And usually I'm busy working or with the family and I see Luke Thomas pop up on the phone. I'm like, oh, that's my quarterback. That's my man, right? Let me see. Does he have
Starting point is 00:54:45 important information about the future of our business relationship together? No. He doesn't. He just has a question about masturbating at the bus stop. I don't understand what he's doing. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Alright. Okay, BC. Well, I watched the fight. I didn't learn shit. He looked like ass. What are you going to say? There we go. There's my analysis. Good enough? There's your anal-sis.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Got it. Yeah. All right. So it's time now where you get to ask us questions on the show. We put out a post on Instagram every Sunday soliciting questions so we can answer them on Monday's show. It's time for dms from dogs all right this comes to us first from at heavy dot falcon nick diaz versus kevin holland who wins the fight and who wins the in-fight banter i don't find find Kevin Holland's shtick funny.
Starting point is 00:55:46 That's just me. Kevin Holland would win the fight by decision because Nick Diaz would ultimately turn into the Anderson Silva version of Nick Diaz and kind of avoid contact and lay around and do weird shit. But I'd be front row
Starting point is 00:56:02 to see how weird that shit would get. I would love the banter between them. Luke, it might be the kind of thing, you know when two great wrestlers fight, like think Covington versus Usman, sometimes they cancel each other out, and that fight they just decided that they would cancel each other out, and they just threw fisticuffs for 25 minutes, or 23 minutes, whatever. Sometimes it cancels each other out. I would like to see whether the weirdness and the trash-talking between the two of them
Starting point is 00:56:24 ultimately just cancel each other out, that they ended the fight with like a hug and a kiss and we're like you know we're brothers forever it's an experiment social experiment that i'd be willing to see luke yeah i don't find i don't find that kind of stuff charming all right from at tjm.norrisblack This is a fucking great question. Whoa. Why do you think there seems to be much less prevalence of eye pokes in women's fights compared to men's?
Starting point is 00:56:53 Jesus, that's a good question. I do not know. What do you think, BC? It's very interesting. I guess it's a fair point. I will say, though, that you noticed in Saturday's broadcast a much, much more focused effort of the referee's warning
Starting point is 00:57:10 fighters who had the fingers exposed who even looked like they were getting close to Ipokeville, Luke, and that is a strong direction forward. I don't really have an answer as to why we don't see as many women's fights affected by this. It's not that it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I don't know, Luke. You tell me, okay? I mean, this is a good question. I don't have any. I'm just going to hazard a guess. Would it be because they fight at slightly different ranges? Do they not use open hand pawing or grabbing as commonly as the men? Do they more commonly just clench and throw?
Starting point is 00:57:47 Fuck, that's a great question i don't i'd have to really study that to have a better answer but that is it's definitely something to pay attention to i don't know if it's because they're just more disciplined fighters or because they don't have the same best practices around reaching i don't i don't know i don't know what the answer is it's a great question jesus yeah it is it is all right at greg leach 99 bc do you think steve amyochich being the underdog this saturday is warranted jesus is he or should he be the favorite considering his dominance in the first fight now if the odds are to be believed i'll pull them up here our friends at william hill bc they've got him as barely an underdog, plus 100 to Francis' minus 125.
Starting point is 00:58:30 So it's pretty close to a pick-em, B.C. What do you think? Yeah, let's not forget that Ngannou was also the betting favorite ahead of that first fight, after he had sent Alistair Overeem to a dark, dark place with, I think, the best knockout in UFC history by the way um yeah I actually think in this case Luke yes there are an insane amount of questions still about in Ghanu I think he should be the betting favorite because let's not forget what happened
Starting point is 00:58:55 in that first fight in the first round like again do you see Stipe's face afterwards he had to walk through hell early and Ghanu is a freak that is rare in these parts where it don't matter the stakes the circumstances the opponent he can end any fight at any time and I think we do have to ask ourselves this for Stipe and yes I will I will remind everyone that I've essentially picked against Stipe and every single one of his major fights it just went down that way yes he has a supernatural ability to uh recover to to take damage to figure out ways to win his adjustments he made against dc in both fights were incredible but how much can one man take and the thing is i don't care how much better you are against fight him enough times he's going to find your chin so luke i will actually say this is this is this seems warranted right now yeah um i don't know bc i don't know i i don't know the the the lingering
Starting point is 00:59:54 question about this fight someone asked in the chat is like has he really gotten better talking about francis and the answer is probably just by virtue of training he's gotten somewhat better but has he the question is has he gotten better enough to win the fight? Really, that's really what they're asking. And dude, there's just no way to know. You just don't have any tape of any kind of reliable sort to know. You do know that if he lands a big punch, Stipe's fucked, right? That's true for anybody because he's not made out of vibranium.
Starting point is 01:00:24 But short of that, I don short of that i don't know i don't know i don't know what the hell's gonna happen here i can easily see a situation where it's like oh right he actually hasn't improved at all that's just all sort of smoke and mirrors or he goes in there and bodies this guy and um i don't know if i give each one of those equal probability but i can't say it hasn't improved even if he hasn't improved he can still win the straight by knockout i mean the first fight was close and you know steepay's chin and his resolve are incredible but you've also seen steepay hurt in a lot of these fights right you know we've seen him knocked out by dc good god the damn skyscraper sent him to hell that one
Starting point is 01:01:00 time luke so it's possible bro is very possible. And the betting oddsmen are favoring the younger, not younger by much, but the younger, you know, less wear and tear, a guy who only goes in there for 25 seconds, 30 seconds a minute at a time and has ungodly strength. I mean, scary. Look, this man is a physical specimen. He is a freak of nature, okay? You once told Yoel Romero to his face that your neck is the size of a tire. You see this man, Francis Ngannou, shirtless, Luke, and you'll inevitably hide, right? I mean, it is, wow, right? Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Why don't you go bang him? Can you back me up? Don't let me hang out there alone with this awkwardness, please. Affirm my weirdness, please, man. Say yes, BC, you're right. The guy's a brick shithouse, bro. No, I just think you're weird. All right, at AAA1017, I'm just going to say it like that.
Starting point is 01:01:59 How did Justin Gaethje, BC, go from being number one contender to now the only lightweight without a dance partner? I mean, we know the mechanics of how it happened, but I guess the question is like, what the hell are you supposed to do with this guy now? It's timing. It's just bad timing, right? You know, he's the last guy there to fight, Habib. It's just bad timing that he's coming off a loss right now where both Chandler and Oliveira are streaking so look if Chandler does not beat hooker by early knockout Gaethje could be fighting friggin all you know could be could be fighting Del Bronx for all we know for the title right now I mean there's a lot you know
Starting point is 01:02:37 and certainly it should it could be uh Oliveira versus uh Poirier which it probably should be it just so happens that Poirier has the window for the Conor trilogy. And by the way, let's pause right here because we did get a lot of feedback of this guy saying, hey, Luke and BC, like you're not making it look easy with this. How many interviews do you have to see Dustin Poirier mention both before and after the Conor fight that he values a trilogy with Conor more than he does the title? We get that. We understand that. Okay. We were sort of devil's advocatingor more than he does the title. We get that. We understand that. We were sort of devil's advocating and trying to figure out the situation. But yeah, Luke, it's just bad timing for Gaethje at the moment.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I did like his social media response that he thought he was training for the Chandler fight only to find out that Oliveira got it and he's just going to keep training. He's just going to keep being him. He'll be back. He'll get a big fight. I think we saw enough good of him in that Habib fight, Luke. I know the storyline could be he ultimately succumbed like everybody else did. And once the fight got to the ground, it was a quick consummation. But Luke, he was one leg kick away from putting that champion in the parable.
Starting point is 01:03:40 You are going to go to the grave really believing that Habib was on his last legs last legs aren't you i will get habib to admit that on camera one day and then you will eat your shit luke you you eat it out of ty to evasa's shoe okay luke yes yes okay the curse of no selling that joke last week luke will come back to haunt you yes dude i know i know i know that some of the mouth breathers love all of your jokes but i have a refined palate and only the very best ones get through which happens on occasion listen listen okay we need to talk about urinating in pools more as i talk about my palate for comedy all right uh at skybound fitness that sounds like a fucking account of a gym. Is this Tyron Woodley's last fight on his contract?
Starting point is 01:04:28 I don't know if that's true, if it is or isn't. But surely if he loses his 20th round in a row, he packs his bag. So he's lost, what, three five-round fights in a row, which means he's lost 15 rounds in a row. Yeah, if he loses, well, this one will only be three, so it would actually be his 18th round. But BC, if he loses 18 rounds in a row, you think the UFC tells him to pound sand somewhere else? I was thinking about this.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I think he still has the, even though Dana doesn't love him, we know that, he still has the name value and a little bit of relevance left, and he's lost a lot of relevance. Believe me, Luke, that should he go out there and get into an absolute war with Luque and show a ton of heart and then, let's say, lose by decision, he's not packing his bags unless Dana's just like, F him, right? I think there is a way he can lose and not lose his job,
Starting point is 01:05:22 but he's got to show heart, and he's got to be in this, and he's got to show heart and he's got to be in this and he's got to fight to win, which we can be very honest over the last three fights. We didn't really see this guy fight to win. There's been a large major disconnect and it's been disappointing to see the quickness of how quickly he went downhill and not a Hennon Burrow type go downhill where everyone's just knocking you out just to you know lifelessness we saw uh yes from the stand there is maybe maybe a small percentage you can lose and move on but it's not wrong to call this a win or go home when you consider how unloved he was even as champion with the promotion maybe some of that is is a difficulty to deal with i don't know i'm not at
Starting point is 01:06:01 the negotiation table i've always felt like they didn't give him, you know, the best foot forward from a marketing standpoint. But Luke, forget all that shit. Just as like a competitor and a man standpoint, there's a lot at stake here for Tyron Woodley to just remind us and maybe remind himself like who he is and, you know, how good he can be. I mean, he's 38. He's not going to, you know, 38. I don't expect a run back to the championship. I just hope for his sake, Luke, he can redeem his good name because those were damaging losses in a lot of ways. And I hated to see that because nobody supported his pound-for-pound relevance when he was champion.
Starting point is 01:06:40 And the fact that he, you know, if you look at the defenses, he's one of the better welterweight champions in history. I hate to see how it's falling apart, even if he had that really weird assless acting performance in that Netflix flick, Luke, with the cock chewing on his cock. I don't understand that art. You mean the raccoon that ate his genitals? Yeah, I don't get that, Luke.
Starting point is 01:07:02 But then again, you listen to school shooting rock, so I don't know. I mean, you know, whatever, Luke. I like the get that, Luke. But then again, you listen to school shooting rock, so I don't know. I mean, you know, whatever, Luke. I like jazz. I like the real music, Luke. You know, the more I get into jazz, I realize, like, that's me. That's your painfully white? No. Like, I missed out all along.
Starting point is 01:07:19 That's the realest of the real music, Luke, okay? Aaron Bronsted is in my dms left and right telling me to listen to this and that that's a man who gets class that's a canadian journalist who gets that shit luke i love that man okay hey well if you if you look at william hale's sports betting tyron woodley is the second biggest underdog on the card now that's still not a whole lot because he's sitting at plus 210 um which is not i mean which is a significant underdog position but not the craziest one you've ever seen still uh but why would you pick tyron woodley here i mean what has he shown you in 15 rounds that would ever make
Starting point is 01:08:00 you think he could beat vicente luca at point in his career? Nothing that I would say, but MMA's crazy. One never knows. What if he got in insane shape for this and he went back to old school Oklahoma wrestling, Tyron Woodley, and he's like, I'm going to Derek Brunson this guy. He didn't wrestle for Oklahoma.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Oklahoma State, Luke. I'm meaning the state of Oklahoma. He didn't wrestle for Oklahoma State either. Where did he wrestle, Luke. I'm meaning the state of Oklahoma. You didn't wrestle for Oklahoma State either. Where did he wrestle, Luke? Just say it out loud, okay? Missouri. Okay. I mean, Omaha, somewhere in middle America, Luke.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Okay? I mean, really. Come on. What do you want from me, Luke? I know. Flyover country. You get mad at me for calling flyover country, and you're like, it's just all one big territory of hillbillies
Starting point is 01:08:45 and toothless meth addicts it's like the middle luke it's the the the the tornado bread bell but i don't know luke okay i'm from the east coast we have a little bit of an arrogance with that luke you know you know why why would living in connecticut give you even a little bit of arrogance well people don't realize luke because i'm actually from the the bottom of connecticut okay i don't know if we've talked about this before luke but i'm from an area in connecticut where you got to earn it bro okay you gotta fucking earn it all right nothing's handed to you you know what's handed to you a pink slip luke you're just from a boring part of connecticut i got a union card and a wedding book.
Starting point is 01:09:25 You're from a place that's just not interesting. It's not tough or dangerous. There's nothing wrong with being from a place that's not interesting. It's just not a thing I have to worry about. I wasn't allowed at the Salem School Courts after those guys shot it up. Luke over a dispute, alright?
Starting point is 01:09:43 People know. People remember, okay? All right, I guess so. RKBC, well, it's time for you to make us remember you and for all the silly things you do. Take it away, good sir. No, Luke, it's, yeah, thank you. Here's what we do in this part, okay? We scour the globe.
Starting point is 01:09:57 The highs and lows, the good and the bad, the in-between, the ugly, and all that stuff. From combat, sports, and beyond, it's called Have You Seen This Shit? Have you seen this shit? Luke, let's open up its own chapter for the women's strawweight bout on Saturday night. Cheyenne Bays versus Montserrat Conejo Ruiz.
Starting point is 01:10:19 It started at the weigh-in, Luke. Check out your girl Mont at's uh bunny ears ink tats and then this little piece of business to close okay okay uh luke that that that uh that spilled over into the fight there was a lot of weird grappling and transitions and this is where Cheyenne accused Montserrat of spitting on her. Luke, your thoughts. Did you see any actual spit fly? I didn't,
Starting point is 01:10:50 I don't know, but we saw middle fingers. How about Cheyenne saying, I'll follow you home, bitch. This guy, Luke, this was almost like strike force Nashville.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Like, Hey guys, we're on national television here, right? Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. I'll follow you home.
Starting point is 01:11:04 That's a, that's a threat. You know, that's a, my hunch is she I mean, that's interesting. I'll follow you home. That's a threat, you know. My hunch is she might have done that once or twice. If she actually did follow Conejo home, it wouldn't be the first home she followed another lady
Starting point is 01:11:20 to. Well, footage resurfaced from Cheyenne Baze's Dana White Contender Series fight where she swore down her opponent as well so she's a little feisty and then Luke here is uh the winner Montserrat getting all Bechkohea on her ass Luke I did pop for this okay this was a little bit shameless but this was like you know what are you going to do about it, right? Bro, dancing in Latin America, or they go hand in hand, bro. She's the Mexican Betch Cohea, and I think I'm here for this.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I think I am, Luke. So congratulations on this victory. I hope you didn't get followed home. But that was some kind of theater these two ladies put on on Saturday. Luke, also on UFC Vegas, you mentioned Bantamweight Adrian Yanez. Let's just get a look at this sick KO of Gus Lopez. Oh, boy. God damn.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I mean, that is... Feels good to watch that, right? That is sick. That is just amazing. I mean, the timing on that could not be better. You could not have... It's not possible. That is just perfect luke there were a lot of
Starting point is 01:12:27 so many contenders for knockout of the night did you see bantamweight montel jackson this is how he do it luke against jesse straighter in round one oh gotta keep your hands up on the clinch break guy yeah has to sit for the alligator roll. Good action. I guess that wasn't the finish. Is this the finish? This guy's got bad defense. Not bad defense. He's got porous defense on his left side.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Maybe it's not the finish. What do I know? Let's see where the knockout comes from. I actually did not see this fight. He switched. Let's see. Left hook. Didn't matter.
Starting point is 01:13:06 All right. Well, Luke. Left hook. Didn't matter. All right. Well, Luke, Bruno Silva also had a heck of a... That's violent. That's violent shit right there. Grant Dawson had a finish with one second left. We don't have that in here, but check out Bruno Silva beating up Cheyenne's husband, JP Baze, Luke. Okay, I will say this. His tattoos are excellent.
Starting point is 01:13:24 They're very good. He's got a portrait on his left shoulder there. It's really quite good. The base clan went 0-2. A heck of a knockout there for Bruno Silva. But Luke,
Starting point is 01:13:39 I loved his celebration even more. Did you see this shit as Bruno Silva was exiting the octagon? Yeah, dude. He's athletic. I'll put it that way. Dude, you're an Armenian fan. That tall-ass lurch motherfucker in the back nearly got blitzed.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I was going to say, your Armenian coach would have loved the head movement here from that security guard. Nice work. Yes. All right. Luke, let's move over to the NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships from over the weekend. Luke, one of our best viewers, Lee Selker, has been on me to get all over Gable Stevenson from Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:14:16 He's your heavyweight champion, and at 285 pounds, Luke, check out his now patented backflip. Luke, our boy Lee, who, by the way, sent us some Peruvian spices that he wants you to try out that his wife is into. He says that Gable is the next big thing in either pro wrestling or MMA, and he's going to have his pick. Luke, what are your thoughts about this guy? Yeah, this isn't even the best angle. I watched this guy win. I won't say he was losing, but he was going sort of halfway through two periods
Starting point is 01:14:46 and then just rolled past this other dude who he had faced, I think, in, I don't know, Big 10, Big 12 finals, whatever. This dude from Michigan. And if you watch it from the other angle, you see this flip. You see the elevation he gets. This dude is nearly 300 pounds. And he's out there doing a back handspring with a turnover. I mean, that is crazy athletic.
Starting point is 01:15:08 So wins a national title, does a huge flip, and is a showman as well. Shit. That guy can do whatever the fuck he wants. And if you're named Gable as your first name, you better freaking wrestle. I think his middle name, by the way, is Dan. And he was giving a shout out to dan gable and his name is gable dan whatever his last name is sterling whatever it is steven might as well just name him gable sanderson stevenson whatever the hell his name is shout out to our boy lee sucker who did wrestle at duke so shout out to that guy
Starting point is 01:15:38 for pointing us out to this luke let's go to one championship here ayaka zombie mayura look what the hell submission is this so that is a that is essentially a paintbrush or an americana with her legs she's going to drive the elbow forward and the hand back in place by driving her hips up like that and it torques the elbow in the wrong direction so it's a from a So the position is called a scarf hold. And then from here, these are judo players who are very, very good at this. They particularly excel. Nobody loves Japanese MMA more than me, Luke. And this is, I don't know what country this was in.
Starting point is 01:16:18 One championship, maybe? That is great. That's a great finish right there. Shout out to Juan for that one. Luke, it's time for regional... Oh, good. Maybe I won't get in trouble for what I said. Luke, regional MMA where any fucking thing can happen. I can hear you.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Four seconds in and we got some testifying, Luke. Get ready. Jesus. Get the fuck out of my face. You know what? Jesus didn't tap, BC, and neither should you. Four seconds in. Wow.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Look at. Damn right. Look at the background here, Luke, at this regional show. There's like tables and shit. I think this might be like a bingo hall with like some actual bingo going on in the background, Luke. Yeah, this is a community where there's probably not a lot to do. You can hear me anymore? I would agree with that.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I can hear you. Hell of a four-second finish. Okay, let's move on to Miami, Luke. I don't know if you've been watching the news, but spring break is going well. Super spreaders uniting, Luke. This little get-together forced an 8 p.m. curfew in the city of Miami Beach. Your thoughts? I mean, they appear to be having a good time.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I don't know what. I don't even know what. We are. I don't even know what we are you ever see other people and they seem like otherwise nice and normal or normal enough anyway and then you realize that you and this person have nothing you don't look at the world the same way not even a little
Starting point is 01:17:58 bit and then I would say oh look that's me and you but it's not me and you because we love MMA I don't have when I say nothing in common with these people bc there isn't enough money in the world to get me to go hang out with these people all right luke uh younger luke thomas maybe whatever maybe right maybe who knows no i tend to listen to science the police are having trouble corralling everybody down there on miami beach check out this guy getting away, Luke.
Starting point is 01:18:26 I don't know what they put him in the cruiser for, but his buddies jacked the back door. And we free, brother. We free. White guys on parade. Here we go. That is fucking awesome. Dude, when I was in New Orleans once, I was walking down the street. And it was in Bourbon Street, obviously.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Where else would I be? And, you know, I was drunk and hammered. And there was this girl who was a total fucking mess. And she was really mad at the people in the balcony because she wanted beads. And she was showing the goods on the street for the beads. But the dudes who were throwing the beads at her were like chucking in her face and they kept hitting her hard you know and she was getting super bitter about it and i felt bad but what are you gonna do you just you know people gonna do what they go so finally she
Starting point is 01:19:14 gets mad at them and then one of their girls comes down to fight the other girl who was flashing the things and then getting the beads thrown in her face. They start rolling around. You've been to Bourbon Street, right? Yes. Okay. Dude, they're rolling around on the street in Bourbon Street with, like, the horse manure and piss and vomit and beer and grenades that have spilled everywhere, the hand grenades, you know?
Starting point is 01:19:40 So then the cops come. And now, you think I'm making this up. This was the craziest shit ever. Now the cops come, and you think i'm making this up this was the craziest shit ever now the cops come and they're trying to arrest it and then the one girl who was not with the she was the one who was in the street originally the crazy one she starts fighting the cops so they taser her as they chuck her into the van and it was the sun hadn't even set i don't think that was my was a night in New Orleans. And then a horse bit my hand, BC.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I tried to pet a drunk. I was drunk and I tried to pet. You know how they always have the cops on horseback there? I tried to pet one of the cops' horses. And he let me for a second and then bit my fucking hand and it hurt like shit he left a knuckle imprint in it for like a month what was the name of the horse and half-baked buttercup luke something like that i forget i don't know but that motherfucking horse bit my hand uh luke we got a new spring break sport it's called bowling for white chicks check
Starting point is 01:20:44 out there's the third guy in this video luke okay no whoa what happened what happened when each i was like this is spring break white chicks no this ain't no spring break bro bro 5c 5c on your bingo card on your we don't have that all right luke fast forward here we go that sounded good too I wanted to see that uh Sanisa Estrada who Luke we saw her beat up that soccer mom last year she was back against a real fighter and a world champion Luke check out this early knockout she had in which the ref not only grabbed her her boobs but knocked her over your thoughts on that Luke you know what some of these guys will just do what they can to get what they can.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Under the auspices of... Yeah. Creeps. Creeps. Nice little finish there for Superbad. I believe she won a decision. It was a big-time win for a rising young fighter. All right, Luke.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Remember when they used to show those insane dramatized videos during Driver's Ed of bloody accidents to scare you about the severity of driving check out this video about the severity of forklift driving look this is great this is so good oh god oh jesus dude what the fuck is this shit? It's so good, right? It's a fucking snuff film. I get it. This shit is dangerous.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Watch the old guy in the break room coming up. Look, it's so good. Luke, don't forget that I was forklift certified as recently as 2006. Okay? Don't ever forget that. Thank you. Thank you, Luke. Yes. I wish you would saw into your own thigh like that. that i was a forklift certified as recently as 2006 okay don't ever forget that thank you thank you luke yes i wish you would saw into your own thigh like that yes uh hey let's move on luke it's international women's month but i don't think this is what they had in mind when title
Starting point is 01:22:37 nine was created can we check this out guys do we have this no we don't have it what the hell's going on today folks you got number eight or no do we have that no number nine no number nine man each bc when bc let me ask you a question when this happens where you throw to the production element and it gets fucked up who should i blame because i'm gonna blame somebody is it your fault or is it their fault gaff and manich try their best to to you know to sort out the bullshit i give them and uh but hey let's luke what the hell's going on here luke this this can't be title title nine regulated oh geez oh dude he's swinging on her oh what the fuck man oh he's going for it bro he's going for it dude what slavic country is this this is how they settle marital debuts in belarus luke okay marital disputes what is this honor killings fc jesus christ
Starting point is 01:23:35 she's in high heels luke what is this this is fucked up this is i can't watch this maniche you were maniche was probably right on trying to skip this all right let's go to some muay thai luke check out this front kick from hell brother oh oh god oh pack that guy up into an attache case right let's call him samsonite let's put a handle on him oh god wow that. Wow. That's a nice shot, too. He thought the guy was going to walk into the punch, and he stops to plant and then takes advantage of his low hand on his other side. You might want to
Starting point is 01:24:13 pick that guy's soul out of your toe hair. I mean, that is just unbelievable, Luke. Yes. Wow. Wipe your feet on your welcome mat when you go home. I your feet on your welcome mat when you go home i think your opponent is stuck in your shoe luke uh habib namaga met off officially retired this week and russian fans are celebrating his great legacy look look at this
Starting point is 01:24:37 this would be racist if they're not white you know that right it's great luke you don't follow look at this russian it's the best it's the best thing going on on instagram luke come on i can't i can't say that this is my number one go-to on the gram luke b you have to understand not only my half lithuanian but uh lithuania was under russian control for most of my youth, Luke. Okay, so, yes, thank you. So, Luke, inevitably, these are my people. Especially that guy in the far right coming up. Look, that guy's the best. Not that guy, that guy.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Yes, yes. All right. All right, Luke, this will be you and me making the walk of shame to the Jersey City train station the morning after we reach 100 000 subscribers on youtube luke who's gonna be in the car damn dude she's out there just sunning her her oh god meth is a hell of a drug luke um i know that you used to pay a hundred dollars for a haircut luke it's the
Starting point is 01:25:45 most obscene thing i've ever heard but if you could get this pulled off that might be worth it what do you think of this luke damn bro you let what did someone to do like they fucking photoshop your hair i mean that is terrible i would pay a hundred for that that is legit if i can find a barber down here in san juan who can do that It's like you sort of admire the art behind it, and then you're like, you couldn't go anywhere with this fuckboy haircut. Oh, there's a lot of places you could go, Luke. Would you get married with this haircut? Damn right.
Starting point is 01:26:18 I got no issues with that. Luke, Justin Gaethje may be out of the lightweight title picture, but endorsement deals are flying. Let's check out this. Protect yourself at all times. You know what I mean? Swipe up below for a chance to win some Trojan swag like this hoodie and a gym bag full of condoms. Signed by me.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Protect yourself at all times. You know what I mean? Swipe up below for a chance to win some Trojan swag like this hoodie and a gym bag full of condoms. Now, wait a second. Is he going to sign the condoms? Gym bag full of condoms. Signed by me. Luke, enter now to receive a signed gym bag full of condoms
Starting point is 01:26:54 from Justin the Highlight Gaethje, Luke. I'd rather have a gym bag filled with signed condoms. Like, you know, you're about to bang, you're about to bang and you pull open your Trojan condom and you're like, thanks, Justin Gaethje. And then you go to town. That's a great day. Right? That's pretty weird, but that's MMA.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Alright, Luke, it's time to rate that tat. Okay, let's start off with boxer Devin Haney, who got a tattoo on his right leg of his knockout of Alfredo Santiago. And Luke, this one is intense. Let's hear your thoughts as we transition to the next slide. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:27:36 That's not great. Yeah, it's not. The artistic detail is well above Mr. Hibas, right? It's pretty good. Spot on par. It's a little bit better. It's not great. It's not great at all.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Wow. Okay. Dude, look at the guy who got knocked down's face. Does that look like a normal human face to you? No, it does not. The referee looks better. Luke, you're the simon cowell of tattoos all right bro i send you good tattoos all the time they don't look like this you know that and you know i'm right to artwork i'm sorry i think that's good artwork i you know if i was i'm i'm not mad at it
Starting point is 01:28:22 okay there are parts of it that are okay but there's a lot of parts of it that are kind of fucked up all right all right uh how about this guy's arm luke he wanted tomb raider laura croft so let's play the video and see if it's a dead on look look oh mother fuck did he get some shit job i love it when tattoos are cleaned with a guy with no gloves. That's always a good sign. Gotta tell you, that's... This is below email level. This is... She looks like that. You ever seen those...
Starting point is 01:28:57 You ever seen that... Oh, no. Oh, that's bad. Yeah, that's bad. That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad bad yeah okay that's that's not great she looks like that have you seen that like the blob fish that they find at the bottom of oceans you know i'm talking about yes yes that's what she looks like here with two with two pistols is that angelina jolie that does not look like her luke uh let's go back to the boxing ring in England, Luke. The referee lets Maxie Hughes pretty much take Hughes Highland Jr.'s soul here
Starting point is 01:29:30 after this referee botch. Check out this. Okay, he's beating on him. Oh. Jesus. Oh, he lets it go? Oh, what the fuck? Oh.
Starting point is 01:29:48 That ain't cool, Luke. That ain't cool at all. Bro, these rules of this boxing match are brutal. Jesus, what is this? Oh, boy. Well, you know what? It got stopped. It got stopped.
Starting point is 01:30:00 So, like, you can't complain too much, but that was granddad. Jesus. You've been fucking early, huh? Yeah, that's uh you know once somebody turned that's why they have that rule in boxing that if you turn your back on the action the referee can stop the action right there and end the fight because you're defenseless you're you're you're basically saying i'm done you know what i'm saying so that's not good wow hey luke, Luke, good news. Maniche has tracked down our new spring bake sport, bowling for white chicks. Yes, here we go. Let's check this out.
Starting point is 01:30:31 First flip successful. Oh, no. Second flip successful. All right. Oh. Oh, that's great. That is great great stuff that is so good spring break this year yep it is all right let's get back on track here luke um our street fight of the week flipping't he yes yes he did luke yes he did it kind of looks like the guy in billy madison who uh billy gave the company to at the end right no
Starting point is 01:31:15 it looks like dr fauci took an l doesn't it it's like dude why is dr fauci wearing jorts and taking l's in street fights i don't't know, but here it is. There it is. I got one more for you, Luke. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You know, BC, what's the dead giveaway that this guy is obviously some kind of street vagrant? There's many, Luke, but how about the wet stain on his left leg? That's big.
Starting point is 01:31:47 I agree that that's big. I'm going to say watch the right hand in the pocket. It never leaves, either because he's too hammered to move it or because he's holding on to drugs as he falls. Oh, boy. Yeah. I'd like to see that guy who scored the knockout against fake Jeff Goldblum, who had that fight in Richmond in front of your sister's house.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Oh, yeah. Yeah, we got to do a street fight tournament. We should actually become street fight promoters. It'd be great. All right, Luke, I got one more. It's white people being white people doing flaming mow shots. Check this out. How could this go poorly?
Starting point is 01:32:26 Yeah. flaming mo shots check this out or maybe how could this how could this go poorly yeah yeah yeah yeah not smart these are can we big screen can we can we full screen this man each there's a lot going on in this video this is great yeah that's awesome look at that guy's face, Luke. This is, you know. It's peak honky. It's peak honky, Luke. It is great. They celebrated this by playing Smash Mouth and banging their sisters.
Starting point is 01:33:00 I don't know. Something awful, I'm sure. Well, that's the shit, Luke. We've seen it. We've seen it all. All right. Thank you. I just can't, that's the shit, Luke. We've seen it. We've seen it all. All right. Thank you. I just can't believe that they're white, guys. It's just so out of character, BC.
Starting point is 01:33:11 It doesn't make any sense. No, I'm with you on that. BC, time for odds and ends. What do you got? Habib Nurmagomedov here was in the crowd at UFC Vegas over the weekend, and he ended up doing an interview with Megan Olivi, Luke, that they used as sort of a teaser to check out the post-game show. I got camera issues.
Starting point is 01:33:31 That's all right, though. Luke, no surprise, and this probably should be the last time we talk about this, but this was the final missing piece of evidence in this whole ridiculous Khabib retirement saga where we were always like, you know what? We haven't actually heard from Habib. Luke, he admitted in the interview that not only, yes, he is done, which we already knew the other day, but that he never actually had any intention coming back, nor did he actually ever tell Dana at any point that he was even considering possibly coming back i mean i don't know what i want you to say i just want to put the final stake in it where you always say hey look we love dana right he's
Starting point is 01:34:15 given us all these great fights he's a big part of us making a living now yes he'll trash us and or me in a four minute video if he needs to but um maybe we don't believe everything he says without fact checking it i don't believe anything he says without fact checking it this was just sort of the final like um well what about you uh habib and usada or what about uh will habib accept 50 million um shout out to habib for being true to his mother, which is what he said in that interview. And it's done. It's over. We will never mention it again. He said, he actually told Megan, Luke, I've been retired for five to six months.
Starting point is 01:34:53 That's what they originally titled the video on ESPN MMA's YouTube channel, and then they changed it. You can imagine why, because it makes Dana look bad. Why would you accept, I mean, okay, I understand it. Dana is the president of a major corporation, and a lot of times what he says is true, or at least ends up being true. But on what basis could you possibly argue that you are in good standing by taking anything he says at face value? I would never do that.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Never, ever. I would never do that. Never. Ever. I would always try to get another perspective on it. Or to corroborate it. I'm not telling you he's not telling you the truth. He very well might be. But there's an inconsistency enough that just accepting it blindly? No, that seems like a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:35:41 All right. For me, BC, I wonder what you make of this, Brian. I didn't know what to make of it but i found it kind of interesting chop chop corley demarcus uh what was his first name i always get this part wrong uh yes demarcus chop chop corley luke yeah chop chop corley he came back at bkfc he looked to be in pretty good shape bc um but he lost the fight retired after the fourth round basically told the referee that he quit now bc corley's 46 and when malinachi fought lobov he was long past you know washed at that point but i gotta tell you i'm a little bit surprised that the boxers even in those
Starting point is 01:36:20 conditions have done not well in BKFC. Is there anything to that? Well, it's hard to, it's interesting, right? And we know that the BKFC rules allow for the clenching and dirty boxing that, you know, a Randy Couture style in MMA. Yes. Sorry, Luke. I mean, I'm burping on air today. Yeah, but hold on.
Starting point is 01:36:41 It's more than that. They start closer. The rounds are shorter. Obviously, they're not wearing gloves. There's just a lot that's different right and mostly what we're finding out from talking to the fighters is you know you can't you can't load up on your shots you got to be really strategic and all this stuff it is surprising to me for how many we're seeing so many more washed mma fighters end up in. And we're seeing very few form. At all.
Starting point is 01:37:07 But at the same time, Luke, I'm not seeing people dominate or overuse and abuse the. So that's not like the excuse. The excuse isn't like, oh, they're utilizing skill sets that boxers have never had to deal with. They're not they're just not having success but at the same time look it's washed paulie and it's hella washed demarcus corley who look i mean it feels like 20 years ago when he
Starting point is 01:37:35 rocked floyd mayweather in their fight and and rocked miguel cotto in their fight and sort of you know was a world-class 140 pound fighter back then so i don't this is the wrong case study to compare but yes it's weird that boxers that i mean there there's no shortage of wash boxers out there who are looking for one last payday you don't see a lot of them going to bkfc it's interesting so again i'm not saying oh boxers are bad in bkfc these are two fights smallest sample size ever, and two guys well past their prime. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:08 It just seemed a little strange. All right, BC. You want to follow me or the other one over there, you certainly may. You can follow us on Twitter, on Instagram. And MK is everywhere on social. Same name everywhere. But obviously, as you can see, BC and I
Starting point is 01:38:22 have slightly different names between Twitter and Instagram, between us there. If you want to email the show, we want to get your can see, BC and I have slightly different names between Twitter and Instagram, between us there. If you want to email the show, we want to get your submissions in, which we'll do on Wednesday. Our Dead Wrongs on Friday. MorningCombat at gmail.com is the place for that. And you want to buy some merch like this wonderful Tumblr, BC? You can go to store.show.com. That and much more is available there.
Starting point is 01:38:45 More merch on the way. And then if you want to try Showtime for the Bellator experience, or, you know, not. Up to you, but it's going to be on there starting in April. You can go to show.com slash bellator MMA. You see the URL right down there. $4.99 a month for the first six months. Again, you get to watch Bellator.
Starting point is 01:39:02 You get to watch Showtime Championship Boxing and everything else on demand. It's the entire entire showtime experience so that should be a lot of fun uh i'd like to um i'd like to apologize to maniche and the viewers for ming i effed up my camera i hit the cord i'm sorry about that um i did want to plug our stuff luke i had a nice sit down with emmanuel sanchez that's going to be on YouTube. I believe today, um, ahead of that April 2nd Bellator MMA debut. Also you and I, as we talked about last week, did record some very professional looking extended previews, not only of how we got here in the featherweight world grand Prix and what to expect in pit bull, uh, Sanchez too, but also a full preview of the 205 pound bracket. I believe the featherweight one launches today on youtube is that a truth luke is that a fact um i don't know i thought it was the 27th that it went up
Starting point is 01:39:51 no uh all right maybe we should check our facts anyway i'm gonna have a nice chat with the champ steve emilich it's tomorrow so a lot of good content coming people's way luke maybe we'll do another resume review you want to you want in on that? Do you believe that there's a resume review curse? Well, we're going to find out. If Francis Ngannou sends Stipe to Hades, Luke, on Saturday, it's going
Starting point is 01:40:15 to be a trifecta. It's going to be three in a row. So, maybe you should consider who you say, hey, BC, why don't we resume review this guy? I mean, do you really want a hand in changing the fortune of MMA cosmically, Luke, with your voodoo dolls that you do, the voodoo that you do when we do this MMA resume review here?
Starting point is 01:40:37 Let's be a little bit careful. We already ruined Connor, okay? You already gave Izzy an L. Do you want that on your conscious to end Stipe's title reign? I don't believe in that kind of nonsense but certain people do and so for those reasons I'd be curious to see if you did I don't believe in that though BC you were right, Road to Bellator MMA
Starting point is 01:40:55 Pitbull vs Sanchez 2 will debut on Monday March 22nd while the Road to Bellator MMA Light Heavyweight Grand Prix will premiere one week later Monday March 29th on Showtime Sports and Bellator MMA YouTube channel. So it should be out today. Be on the lookout. Maneesh, did we lose BC?
Starting point is 01:41:13 Where is he? No, we didn't. We saw your camera get unplugged and we have lost you on the live view. So great job. All right. Well, all right. Well, I'm going to close it out from here. Thanks to everyone who watched Showtime,
Starting point is 01:41:28 Mocha, CBS Sports. We're back on Wednesday. As BC said, we plugged all of our content. Please be on the lookout for our Road to Bellator MMA Pitbull versus Sanchez 2 special, which by the way, BC hosts. And that's it for Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Until next time, may all of your gains be loyal. We'll be right back. We'll see you next time.

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