MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Fight Night Recap: Sandhagen Stops Moraes | Bellator 248 Recap | Early look at Loma-Lopez

Episode Date: October 12, 2020

Episode 68 of MK is here as Luke and Brian recap the events from this past weekend, including an eventful UFC Fight Night that saw Cory Sandhagen score an impressive stoppage of Marlon Moraes (7:20). Edson Barboza bounced back Saturday night can he really be a contender at featherweight (20:38)? UFC Fight Night also brought us one of the craziest knockouts you will ever see (27:50). The guys also break down Bellator 248 and debate if MVP should get a rematch vs. Douglas Lima after a win over Ross Houston (44:50). Next up is a quick look ahead to this weekend's big fights. What should you be paying attention to (52:50)? The guys answer your DMs (1:05:45). Have you seen this shit (1:18:05)? Plus the guys close it out with their Odds and Ends (1:32:12). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is Morning Combat. getting more, oh Jesus Christ, more amazing with age. He is also the conspiracy to my theory. It's the one and only Brian Campbell. Hi Brian, how are you? I'm doing well, Luke. I'm doing very well. Thank you very much. Thank you for calling out the name of my savior to open the show there when you heard Jay's voice. And also, Luke, look, Mondays are the best days. This is the show that started this phenomenon, right?

That is morning combat, right? I mean, you can have all the money and the power day after day, hour after hour, but it still comes back to Monday morning. The first voice you hear, let MK be your water cooler, brother, okay? Because we're going to mix it up. We're going to brainwash you the only way we know how,

MK Ultra style, Luke. So hope you had a nice weekend. People think you and i hang out we converse all the time i avoid all your text calls and emails until monday morning that's not exactly true but you're right mondays are the best days we drink champagne when we're thursdays um i had a great weekend spent a lot of time with my kid took it to a bunch of parks did a bunch of biking around the nation's capital so it was fun did you do anything of note good good sir?

I chop more wood. I'm building wood piles. It's very manly of me. That's why I wear really tight shirts there that show off what I've been building here, which are these absolute firearms. Yeah, I've been chopping a lot of wood, Luke, okay? It connects me with my ancestors, my Quebecians, okay? I bet you they chopped a lot of wood.

Quebec quoi. All right, very good. Well, we have a lot to get to. There were some fights over the weekend. Bellator Paris slash Bellator 248, which was okay, not great. And then I got to say, you know, the argument from promoters that all the cards that people don't pay attention to are always the one that delivers is absolutely not true.

However, it is true that if you're a hardcore fan, you get both worlds. You have to sit through more dreck, but sometimes you do get the things that fall under the radar that just are excellent. That card, UFC Fight Island 5, it was a banger from beginning to end. The decisions were all interesting interesting and the knockouts. I mean, there was a million of them, including maybe the best one ever. So why don't, before we start the show there, first things first, don't call that other guy Cody anymore. Okay. He's, he's, he's passed that after, after this performance, good Lord, the Sandman from now on. Yeah, please, please. Mr. Sandman. All right. Uh, real quickly, if we can, can uh give the video

a thumbs up hit that subscribe button our numbers have been exploding since we went full time let's keep that train on the tracks we got some missions and some goals and we appreciate everybody who's been along do you see any correlation with our rising numbers and the fact that jay barely works on the other shows each week you know i hadn't thought of it in that way, but now that you bring it up, I bet there is a one-to-one relationship with that. So, number one, that. Number two, if you'd like to try Showtime, and why wouldn't you, Showtime.com right now, a 30-day free trial. You can check it out.

If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can go pound sand. And BC, I don't have any MK merch that I'm wearing, but I do have my MK tumbler right here. Very nice. What a nice little glass here. It's one of MK merch that I'm wearing, but I do have my MK tumbler right here. Very nice. What a nice little glass here. It's one of my favorites that I use. I've got Mountain Dew in it.

You've got a nice hat over there. Dude, this thing's very comfy. It fits floppy, right? You could see your dad in this. This would be a very nice gift. Look, it's going to be the holiday season soon, all right? Jay, let's bring in Jay real quick. Jay, happy Rosh Hashanah belated to you, and this would be a great gift for your

tribe, Jay. Jay, we can't hear you, but you are wearing the Morning Combat shirt, Jay. Why do you bring Jay in? No one wants to hear from him. No, because look, Jay's got a controversial history in this show, but he's one of the pillars holding this thing up, Luke,

okay? And the show is off the rails. I mean, he's like the wizard of oz if once you discover the wizard it's a dude on 4chan who also you know masturbates on chat roulette it's like really that's the wizard of oz i mean that's what we're doing here the one the one i have to live through is the one where you are the producer of the show, which is just like that, as described. You see the adult version? Follow the yellow dick road? Where are we going with this, Luke? With that in mind, BC, we indicated the fights over the weekend were good.

Let's start there with topic number one, if we can, please. So, UFC Fight Island 5 was headlined by a fight that we knew in advance was important, and we had good reason to believe was going to be good, that being a top bantamweight clash between Corey Sanhagen and former champion Marlon Marais. By the way, it turns out you can pronounce it Marais or Marais. I had a Brazilian check me on that. Either way, BC, Corey Sanhagen comes out, very competitive first round, bit of a back and forth, but you could see he was setting into a

rhythm comes out in the second round and just runs over Mullen Marais finishing him off with a spinning heel kick I have to go back and look at it again to see exactly which one it was but whatever it was it was emphatic it was amazing it was a delivery of the promise that you thought he had before the Sterling fight it was a lot BC your main takeaway from Corey Sandhagen's monster win. Maybe that his back tattoo looks like the cover of Houses of the Holy by Led Zeppelin. But beyond that, he's a problem, Luke, at 135 pounds. This division is so sick. I mean, this was a non-title main event.

Any fight you can make with Aljo, with Jan, with these two, with all the veterans around there, it's going to be amazing. This one lived up to it, and he surpassed the expectations coming in. We did talk on the preview show on Friday, Luke, about ability versus ability. I kind of like Sanhagen's chances against Marais, even though Marais is as solid and tough as you can find at Bantamweight. But to see Sanhagen just go to that plus level, his mentality was correct.

He came in aggressive. He came in focused. I love the post-fight celebration of, hey, let's not go too big. I got another step to go. I got to get to the top. This was absolutely eye-opening. We knew this was inside of him.

But Luke, let's be honest. When you have a deep division, any division in the UFC, when it's loaded, any one of the top five or six on their best night, you're usually thinking, wow, they may be a title contender. They may be for real. It's not always easy to plug that in and be your very best. He was able to put out a dominant effort. And when you take into consideration his length, his IQ, the versatility in his game, he's a problem, Luke, and I cannot wait to see who they

match him against next. Yeah, two responses I would have. I totally agree. Absolute problem. I mean, we thought it was a problem heading into the Sterling fight, and Sterling ran over him, which is a credit to Sterling, who, by the way, should be the guy in the fight with Peter Yon. Still not announced as of the day of this broadcast, which is crazy, but okay. We assume it's going to happen. But you know, listen to your point, anyone in that top five on their best day is going to make anyone else in that top five who was also amazing, just look kind of amateurish. And he had a bad day against Sterling, but the reason we believed in him, it was evidenced in this fight, the sophistication of the footwork. You know, a lot, I think a lot of guys stance switch in, and I'm not sure how much benefit they get out of it.

He gets all the benefit in the world, to the point where you couldn't really decide if he's better in orthodox or southpaw. He's actually better on the move in that way, and so you can really tell he has naturally taken to that style of fighting. I still think he takes a little bit of time to get going, which is partly why he had an issue with Sterling. I know he he takes a little bit of time to get going, which is partly why he had

an issue with Sterling. I know he's been seeing a sports psychologist to get him in a better state than to be prepared from the opening bell. And don't get me wrong, I do think he had a little bit more energy. He was focused. So I'm not saying he came into it exactly the same as the Sterling fight. It just seems to me that first round is for him a real learning experience. What am I up against? What am I seeing? What am I reading? And then by the second, he's just lapping everybody, provided the fight goes that long. Marlon Marais looked to be in tremendous shape.

He had changed camps for this. Now, maybe in the defense of Marais BC, it takes some time to get adjusted to the new camp, right? Even if the change was necessary, it doesn't mean that the change is going to pay dividends right away. So I want to be clear. We should not write off Marlon Marais here. I know he came out of the gate basically storming UFC debut notwithstanding, becoming the champion.

He's had a couple of, you know, a few, I should say, pretty tough fights even with the Aldo win. But I still think he's going to be around in this division for a while to come. So I want to make sure we say that. But you're absolutely right, BC. Corey Sanhagen is going to be a problem for anyone. I think he has an adaptive style to really handle any kind of fighter. I think if he fought Sterling a second time, not saying Sterling wouldn't necessarily win,

but I definitely expect it to be very, very different. I like the way he matches up with Peter Jan. And more to this point, BC, we should have this conversation here right now. Which division is better, 155 or 135? I'm still going to say 155, but the Sanhagen fight against Morais reminded me of this. Sterling reminded me of this. Peter Jan reminded me of this.

I think the guys at 155 are a little bit more established commodities. I like their power punching just a little bit more up there. But I've got to say this. If 135 isn't the best division now, and you can make a case that it is, it's definitely the division of the future. All of these young guys who are already so capable, they already have all these best practices worked out. They are going to be the future of the sport if they're not already the present. where do you come down in that conversation uh really bantamweight is so deep and it's the mixture of those young elite might have next guys that we're talking about sandman aljo yan and all those aging names look i love that we got mr faber edgar lingering cruise you got tj dillashaw coming back early next year i mean

this is such a friggin deep division i do think it comes just short of lightweight. And what does that mean? I'm the guy banging the drum for the last year and a half telling you the lightweight right now is the deepest, greatest division in the sports history, even better than that great light heavyweight run of a decade ago. So they're right there. And let's not forget, of course, the women of 115 who always deliver.

But you could, it's one of those things luke where if you said you can only watch bantamweight fights for the next year and none else you know none else you'd be like okay i'm fine i'm fine with this let's do this um luke our crack research team has pointed out internally here that it was big brown of all people who gave cory his sandman nickname during a food truck diary your thoughts yeah well he's from aurora colorado which is a a wonderful place if you love good coffee good beer amazing sights and white dudes with dreadlocks it's it's the home of that quite frankly uh actually i love colorado i love aurora colorado but i think they have a colorado bond you know he to brendan's credit he's been high

on cory sandhagen for a long time i didn't know who he was until I saw him fight. And you know, your first couple of fights in UFC, you may not be fighting the biggest names. And I was like, God damn, this guy looks smooth. And then he started beating the good names. And now you get to this point here. One more point about this BC, which is kind of interesting. I saw a lot of MMA writers being like, well, this makes the choice for UFC very easy. Maybe if Marais had won, UFC might have skipped over Aljo and given it to Marais for whatever promotional reason they have in denying Aljo, which I don't understand, but whatever. The fact that they haven't announced it seems kind of weird.

Peter Yan was even sort of cryptic about it on Twitter. And they say, well, because not only Sanhagen won, but he won so emphatically, oh, well, there's no way you could deny Aljo. Dude, what is preventing them from just making the Sanhagen fight against Peter Jan? Nothing. Nothing. Oh, well, he got dominated by Aljamain Sterling. And what is that supposed to mean? They have total control. Even if it was utterly unjustified, they could just go do it. There's nothing preventing them from doing that. So I agree, logically, Aljo was the guy before. He's even more the guy now.

Let me just say, I am saying Aljamain Sterling, BC, deserves that shot. But the UFC can do whatever they want. This idea that because Corey Samhagen won the way he did precludes him. No, it does not. No, look, it's Aljo's aljo's fight okay god what else do they have to do we cory sanhagen's our new poster boy and aljo dominated him okay can we end that conversation right now i want to point out something real quick you know our brethren in the media friend of the program shaq majoree of uh of fightful you know that guy yes he's uh he's an Iranian-Canadian, I think. Yeah, real nice guy.

He interviewed Eddie Alvarez ahead of this fight who said, Eddie looks at Marais as a mini-me. And the comparisons are really jumping out when you look at the style and in some ways his look with the balding head. Do you have any fears, though, even though Eddie is a legend, right? The king of the underground, all that. Former UFC champion.

That Marais is starting to fit into the negative side of Eddie's image where it's like he's a tough out for everybody in this division but is he ever going to get over the top of that hill well I I'm just not ready to bury the guy yet I think it's very premature I mean it is true that like skills win fights right if you just look at what Sanhagen does, Morais is very skilled at what he does, but he does something a little bit more conventional relative to what Sanhagen does. He's got a much more modern style of MMA game,

and he's very fluid and very crafty with it. And so as a consequence, it's a bit like the T-1000 versus the T-2. But the T-2 is still a force to be reckoned with. This idea that he can't be any better than he already is, I don't buy. Again, I still think there's going to be, it's going to take some time, I think, for him to make real meaningful adjustments at ATT to get back to a spot where he can threaten those guys. But do I think he can beat Peter Jan if he fights up to

his level and then add some new development to his game? Yes, of course I do. Remember, he's got a vicious ground game too. We just didn't see it because I think he prefers to strike. Maybe mixing it up is the answer. Maybe adding a couple more wrinkles. I leave that to his capable coaches and trainers. I'm just saying he's way too athletic, way too heavy-handed, already way too well-rounded for me to say oh he's a has-been I don't buy that at all I just feel like he's in a rut and he needs some kind of catalyst for change maybe the camp is that let's give him some time Luke real quick on the way out here on Sanhagen I got two for you number one what's his major malfunction look I mean we saw

him get jumped on by Aljo and lose but when you look at his long-term potential of maybe climbing the mountain in this division what's the type of fight type of fighter that you look at as his kryptonite one somebody who gets to work early and builds a commanding lead i think somebody who can land with big heavy power that can force his ability to make, or it can delay his ability to make meaningful reads, right? Because if you're constantly getting just crushed trying to do that, you're going to be slower about it, much more hesitant. That's going to be difficult for you. So an early starter, a heavy handed guy, somebody who doesn't buy into his feints and waits for him to make a distance closing. I think that's going to be big. That kind of a thing.

Somebody who just doesn't bait into motion, doesn't bait into feints. Peter Jan, in many ways, is going to be that guy. I think those two match up. Jan and Aljo match up interestingly because Aljo is such a threat on the floor. He's got really long reach, stick and move kind of a game. That's going to be a puzzle for Jan to solve but if Jan wins that it gets up against Sanhagen they're in many ways I'm not going to say opposites because Jan can play that game a little bit too but Jan can go in a couple of directions that Sanhagen can't and it's going to be interesting to see who can be the more dominant fighter given those constraints that's going to be a hell of a matchup down the road

and if you want to compare this division, maybe that look, when I talk about that light heavyweight division of a decade plus ago, before John Jones really took over and the belts changing hands from one hall of famer to another, right from forest and, and, and show gone and,

and ramp, I'm sorry, and Rashad. And, you know, I mean, it's going back and forth rampage, obviously in that mix as well.

I'm wondering if that's going to happen at Bantamweight. Cause these guys are so evenly matched, but I do want to ask you to close. What should be next for Sanhagen, provided Aljo gets Jan like he should? Corey mentioned a few names. You mentioned Dillashaw. I mentioned, he mentioned Frankie Edgar as well.

Who would you like to see him against next? Yeah, I mean, he's title shot or bust as far as I'm concerned, but he may not want to sit out that long, right? So in terms of what he has earned, he's earned a title shot. In terms of what is just logically possible for being next, because who knows how fast the winner can make a turnaround from the title fight, assuming it happens in December between Aljo and Jan. Second, what if they get injured?

Like, you just have to really think about, okay, I think I got next, but there could be a scenario where I just don't want to wait that long, in which case I like the D, you just have to really think about, okay, I think I got next, but there could be a scenario where I just don't want to wait that long. In which case, I like the Dillashaw fight because you beat him. It's a great way to gain some visibility. Edgar, a little bit less so these days, but that's a very, very winnable fight,

I think, for someone like Corey Sandhagen. So something like that. Something where a little bit more than stay busy, got a visible name on the other side, but nothing that's too much of a threat to derail everything he's already built. Would you agree? I would. I would agree with that.

It's almost like a showcase stay busy against a name who has a threat. But Sanhagen should beat him. I'm down for that as well. And like you mentioned, one of the better things to come out of Colorado since Chuck Mendenhall. Oh, yeah. We didn't forget about that guy. We love that guy. Okay.

I've seen him without the hat. It's a little disarming i have seen him without the hat but what a guy love him it's like vader when he takes his helmet off it really is it really is it really is yes yeah all right we go to point number two the co-main event from ufc fight island five edson barboza has dropped down to 145 and what what does he want? He wants to be a title contender. Did he prove that he could be? Well, he beat Makwan Amir Khani. And he did it pretty convincingly, if you ask me. Although one judge had it 29-28, I think, which I don't understand.

I had it 30-26, quite honestly. But okay, BC. Did he prove he could be a title contender at 145 pounds? Yes and no. He proved that he's able to do it at this weight. I mean, look, this is a bold move to move down here and campaign here at this point in his career. He's able to pull it off.

Do I think he can win a title? I have my doubts. I have my doubts because of what cutting down to a weight class does to your body, especially at this point in your career. And we even see that to a degree with Jose Aldo, where you can have flashes. You can be the bigger man and have power. Can you have sustained top-level output over a whole fight, including a five-round championship fight?

That's where I have questions. Name-wise alone, and his ability to finish guys, I think he could get to a title shot, Luke. You know, be against that I don't think it's impossible but I think he's in that group just short of that he's a tough out I love his commitment to this because at lightweight in some ways he's just another dangerous player like I like him against all those guys but I understand the move right now it's a shorter path to the top at featherweight i don't think he's a killer in this division i think he's a tough veteran out and i think he dominated this fight and showed you what he has along with luke a reinvented facial hair and and in top salad game you down with that you down with this this almost villainous turn right

here the the hair i could i could leave or or or take it doesn't matter one way or the other the beard i like it's grisly it screams veteran it screams battle tested you know i actually dig that that part i thought was a nice addition the mop you know it's whatever i'll say this what i do on ufc3 luke anytime i suffer two losses in a row, I go back to the creative fighter and I add extra facial hair, like a giant beard or some crazy looking, who's that guy that favored, Ricky Simone, one of those type of haircuts going as like a reinvention of the soul, like you're getting down to the roots of who you are. And in some ways, I think Barbosa's done that.

I've never played the video game. I don't intend to, so I will take your word for it. Kimbo Slice used to say, I take care of my beard because my beard takes care of me. I also thought that was one of the cooler things he ever said. In terms of Edson Barbosa, I'll say this. Isn't it funny? You look at his record. The guy, I mean, you think about how terrifying he is as a striker.

He's got TKOs in the UFC and wins, you know, via leg kicks. He's got maybe, we'll talk about this just a second, but he's got, if not the best knockout ever in UFC history, boy, he's on the short list, right? And yet he's got nearly double digit losses. Now that speaks to a couple of things. One, some of his own limits, right? I mean, he's not a perfect fighter. He's an amazing striker. He's super athletic, but he is not as well-rounded as he maybe could be the second part is it just speaks to who he's fought and and what MMA is like he has fought Khabib and he has fought Tony and he's fought you know Paul Felder twice and blah blah blah I mean you can go down to Dan

Hooker and some of those he won and some of those he lost but you can sort of just look at those and say my god this guy has fought everybody his generation you know could have put in front of him and so as a consequence his numbers in terms of his losses are kind of high, but his record of willingness to take on the very best cannot be doubted ever. But then it leads me to wonder something, right? Okay, if Khabib is taking you down and Tony Ferguson is able to snap you down, it's one thing because Tony can fight as high as 170. Khabib, super strong on 155.

I was really curious to see what Amir Khani could do. Now, to be clear, Amir Khani is actually a pretty good wrestler, especially for a fighter coming out of Europe. He can handle his own there, but he is a natural 145-er. And so I thought, okay, let's see how he can handle Barboza's physicality. In terms of that, he can handle it pretty well. I did not see a meaningful change in terms of the ability to defend a takedown, which is still pretty good, but it wasn't like there was an upgrade.

He wasn't really able to use any kind of additional physicality by being more of a natural 155-er in getting that done. So it just leads me to wonder, like we know if you back up and make a move, he's not as much of a threat, still very difficult to beat, but not as much of a threat. His takedown defense looked to be about the same as it was at 155. And so for those reasons, BC, I think I agree. Tough out, top guys are going to have a hard time with him, but is he a different fighter at 145?

I don't know that I saw that. Did you? You know, when I say different, there's potential negatives. Like, he's not going to take the same, you know, sustained beatings he could take against those killers at 155. He has a size advantage at 45. He can land big shots, but I don't see him better. So that's why I'm saying I recognize the commitment to reinventing himself here as maybe his best possible chance at still living out his dreams. But no, I don't think he's a better fighter at one 45. I just think he'll have a better chance at an out punch

or some type of strike. I mean, look, you know, he dropped EGA. That was a fun fight there. He's going to be able to finish guys with some of these shots, but no, Luke, I look, I'm not, I don't have any confidence. He can do that in five rounds against a true elite though. I mean, that's, that's asking a lot in your body. It really is. When you have this much tape on you and your style has gotten better over the years, but it hasn't really changed. Like, he's not exactly different from the Mike Lulo fight. I mean, he's just kind of a better version of that, which is still formidable.

I mean, that's going to be, no one's going to walk through him. That's not the way that it goes. But at the same time, it's like, is that the guy you think is going to get a title shot? You know, maybe he could put together enough wins, but can he beat a guy like Volkanovski? I doubt it. Korean zombie. We'll talk about that here in just a minute, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't, I just don't, I don't necessarily see it. Even if I recognize, I think what we all love about him is how terrifying he can be and the thing that makes fighters hold on sometimes and be delusional about themselves

in various stages of their career is the same thing that propels them to greatness this unwillingness to bend and accommodate difficulty and that is really you can see coursing through the mind and the veins of someone like Edson Barboza and for that reason you have to respect him but at the same time I'll just say in honor of what he's been able to achieve, I'll take a wait and see approach. But just speaking candidly, I'm a little bit skeptical of the upside possibility. That's what I would say. That's all we do on this show, Lucas.

Speak candidly. We don't care. I'm protecting nothing. All right. Some people think you always got to worry about the, you know, the payback. Some punk that you talked bad about way back coming back after all these years jay i ain't going nowhere i'm staying right here in this rap verse and this lyric remember you used to drop that little that little thing at the bottom thank you all right let's move on he's gotten late look

at him just sitting there with his hands in his pockets being lazy as shit uh all right okay that that's a little that's a little bit too far don't't make me bring Jay back in to troll the audience here and let him defend himself. All right, point number three. Let's talk about what really made the headlines. The win by Sanhagen certainly deserves to be talked about first. But in terms of just memorable moments, Jesus Christ, I'm leaning to the wrong side here.

Sorry. Wow, I got to say, Joaquin Buckley getting a win over Impa Kasonganai. There is so much to say about this. So, BC, let's start with you. Is that the greatest knockout in UFC or maybe even MMA history? No. But is it in the discussion? Yes, Luke.

When you're debating and comparing, and I kind of want to do that in a second with the short list of what we consider to be the greatest of all time knockouts, the iconic moments, the ones that hit that sizzle reel when the Who sings Bob O'Reilly before the start of the pay-per-view main card. This is going to be in that discussion. This is going to fit in there nicely. But there weren't enough stakes to separate it, in my belief,

from some of those other ones. Now, what it was was just mind-blowingly athletic and creative and that's what made it just jump out and i think what's going to be lost luke when we talk about this over history is how wild of a fight this was leading up to it you go back and watch the what round and a half that built up to this they're landing bombs on each other these are two guys going for it trying to make a name for themselves and then this happens out of nowhere i mean it was a special moment i love i love for buckley luke that dana got involved and basically you know i mean like this is the the pathway to dana's heart right is to do stuff like this dana's ready to give him the whole 200 grand all the bonuses what a just out of freaking nowhere type of striking kick that i think

elevates the art form in the same way of the showtime the showtime kick from anthony pettis against henderson that you know that wasn't a knockout from that kick which maybe is why we don't always put it at the very top of this list but just something so creative that you're like wow you know i necessarily haven't seen that before at this level and didn't think that could happen right there and i think you just look at how do you pronounce the guy's name with the K there before I am? If you look at Kasonga nice reaction, which has now become a meme. Good God. It's like, you know, it's the it's the oh, I effed up moment because I never thought a third leg could come out of this guy's crotch and just take me out.

And he'll kick me down to the basement floor of hell, Luke, because that's where he is right now. And that's where he belongs because this is one of the greatest knockouts in the history of combat sports, but no, it's not the best. So I'm going to say this. I don't know if it's the best for the one, there's one real knock on it, which is, as you mentioned, the stakes. Impa Kasonganai is coming off the contender series. He had one fight before this against Maki Patolo, who also came off the contender series and I think has been one in three in the UFC since then. So he's not exactly fighting for, this was not in a title fight. It's not a number one contender fight. And that's, you'd be

like, oh, well, that's, that's not fair to him. But okay. But like, if you're Dan Henderson and you knock out Michael Bisping the way you did, is different if you're Rashad Evans and you knock out Chuck Liddell the way you did that is different or pick something where it was a really impactful huge major event and somebody got a win like that it does count more it's harder to do those kinds of things against better opposition okay that one critique aside, it's probably the most amazing KO I've ever seen. It is just spectacular. It is magical.

And how do you know? Several reasons. One, you can just watch it on loop. There's never enough angles to it, number one. Number two, the absolute acrobatic athletic genius of Joaquin Buckley. That parry that Kasonganai was using, it's a parry that's designed when you catch it and scoop it out to turn your opponent past you, just to give you enough of an angle where they're not facing you anymore and you can attack them, take down if you want, or just a punch or a kick from an angle that they can't see coming. He used that momentum from Kasonganai to then whip around for that jumping back kick.

That is just spectacular. Number three, it reminds me of a couple of other times in MMA where guys have held on to a leg or a knee too long and then suffered the consequences for it, or nearly did, right? So it was this presence of mind that he had to do this. I'm sure he has drilled it on some level, but nevertheless, just incredible presence of mind and acrobatics. And more to the point, we'll discuss this in a second. It's not that we take pleasure in the suffering of Kasanganai, but part of what makes a great knockout is what it does

to the other person and the face face that Kasang and I makes, the biological response when he gets hit with that heel, and the way his body falls back and his head hits the canvas, again, we do not celebrate the trauma per se, but that is part of the show. That is part of what makes it memorable. That is part of what is telling you how destructive that it was. It wasn't just that he spun in the air.

That's part of it. The other part is what it actually did. And so I can't forget that. Again, I sort of admire the violence of it all, if I can be candid with you. And then the other part is, lastly, a good, really important knockout like this, it tells you a story about the person who did it. a good, really important knockout like this,

it tells you a story about the person who did it. And it binds the two fighters together forever, but it really tells a story about the person who was able to exact it. Whether it's a super quick KO, like it's six seconds, whether it's acrobatic or whatever, this is a moment where everyone is going to remember. Who can name three other Joaquin Buckley fights you can't forever you will be able to remember the Joaquin Buckley Impa Kasonganai fight forever if you are any kind of real fight fan it will be forever burned in your memory and you will know Joaquin Buckley better by virtue of this performance. And so it has literally, BC, everything you could want from a KO.

The only thing is it lacks those stakes. Now, I mentioned something at the end here about what it did to Kasong and I. Scott Van Pelt, perhaps the most famous of all ESPN anchors, was anchoring SportsCenter, his branded version of it, on Saturday night and said that the KO bothered him. He didn't like it. Now, he clarified his comments on Twitter. In fact, he and I were tweeting back and forth for a very little bit on Sunday

saying he admires the sport. He just can't take pleasure in what was happening to Kasong and I there. It pissed off a lot of MMA fans. Should we be pissed? No. Look, I understand SVP's reaction. I almost give him some respect for having the guts to say it because, look, that's mainstream media's reaction.

There are even some, you know, not some, so many hardcore boxing fans who love boxing, love the violence of it, and will never be okay with one guy going full mount on somebody else and sitting on his chest and parading down strikes as blood and guts, you know, jump out. I get it. It's not forever. Look, this is a niche sport. It's a niche sport that got really damn far because of Dana and the Fertittas.

It's still a freaking niche sport for a reason. So that's fine, SVP. But you know what? Like you said, Lukeke celebrating the violence of it it's part of of the what what gets us here it's part of the admission that's what we're after in a lot of ways i think it's an extension luke of being on the schoolyard as a kid and seeing a fight developing from a distance and i mean i used to be like front row at every one and debating was that fight better than the one in third grade over by the corner

where Art Hornby kicked that dude in the head? Shout out to Art Hornby, by the way. Yeah, for me, it's still an extension of that. I respect the art form. I respect the warriors that get in there. But there's a reason that scene in the movie Friday happened. You got knocked the F out. There's a reason KTFO becomes a thing.

There's a reason every time you see a violent knockout, whether it's a street fight or a UFC fight, it becomes a viral meme because, you know, like home runs or touchdowns or slam dunks, it's the exclamation point of this sport. These guys sign up for it. They know what they're in for. There's not only the threat of violence, but really

embarrassment, and that's what comes with it. Thank you to these guys for being willing warriors, and I'm not going to apologize for the sport i respect scott van pelt's opinion but you know it's not mine and i don't think it's really of any of us does does combat sports go too far yes there's boxing deaths from this there's uh i don't even love in uf you know in mma to be honest with you the breaking of bones and that kind of stuff there are certainly things that go too far where i'm like oh i don't want to see that guy's uh you know skull breaking of bones and that kind of stuff. There are certainly things that go too far where I'm like, oh, I don't want to see that guy's, you know, skull bone coming through from that cut.

But the knockouts, Luke, that's that's that's the remember the stag. Remember the 90s, Luke Baggo porn. That's what it is. OK, that's what the knockout is. OK, I would have a couple of response responses to him. And the first one I would say is if you're an MMA fan, would you just let off Scott Van Pelt? Just leave him alone like he doesn't he doesn't like knockouts in the way

that we like knockouts so what like the the UFC is airing on ESPN Bellator is on CBS Sportsnet there's never been a better time to be a sports fan you can get to zone and fight pass this is the golden age of being a fight fan there are fights every weekend all over the globe and more or less if you want to you could watch every single one the argument about whether fight sports should continue and should be a thing in society is over and fight fans want it so you don't have to re-litigate it if someone doesn't like it especially someone prominent now i understand you don't want to see it bashed on tv whatever who cares whatever scott van pelt says is not going to change espn or anybody else's commitment to it he's just stating his personal opinions can we stop policing people's

preferences when they don't like it if you don't like fight sports okay i will i'm gonna sleep fine tonight with knowing that it doesn't affect my day. Yeah, Luke. Stop policing COVID truthers. Okay. It's their opinion. Get off their back. Yeah.

Well, that has dangerous consequences for everybody. That's different. But I want to shout out SVP's guy, you know, Stanford Steve, his, his trusty producer and sidekick. Yes. Huge MMA fan, Luke. And I don't think everyone knows this. He was the boogeyman of my town, my high school, Naugatuck, Connecticut.

He went to Ansonia down the street, that dirt hole of a town. And he was the guy, Luke, all state in football, baseball, basketball. State titles always destroyed us. Got a scholarship to play tight end at Stanford. Was the number one recruit in a nation, according to one magazine, my senior year. But we'll never forget. Thanksgiving, 93, 22 to nothing steve deal with it okay it happened there were grown men crying in the crowd it happened shout out to stanford steve all right luke let's come let's do the hold on

hold on i haven't i haven't even i gotta make my point here very quickly if i can please for just a moment we don't have time sorry we have time hold on let me just make this because i think it's really important that we say this out loud. I have worked at various media companies for the last 14 or 15 years. It's a pretty big ones, right? Billion dollar companies all the way through. I've been very lucky. And what I have noticed all the way through is I've got news for everybody out there as a fight fan, stop expecting broadcasters or producers or whoever to love MMA. They are not broadcasting MMA because they love it. Various outlets, big ones, don't cover MMA because they love it. It is a transactional relationship. They see a lot of traffic and they want some.

Their competitors are covering it, so now they feel like they have to as a way to compete. Everything I've seen in meetings and deals signed, these executives don't love MMA. What they love is that the audience will pay enough attention to it that they can sell ad dollars or they can sell ads and make money against it. And that's okay. That's enough for us to enjoy it. But this idea that fight fans or everyone has to love it the same way we do, they're never going to. And last but not least, there is one way I would challenge Scott Van Pelt and anyone else who makes these arguments about football and other dangerous sports being different. It is true. There is something to be said that, you know, there's no knockout of the night bonus on some

kind of NFL broadcast. In fact, when there was that Saints bounty scandal, it was in fact a bit of a scandal. I tend to think a media manufactured one to a degree, but okay, there is a difference. However, and this is a point I make constantly when we talk about PEDs, in the end, what matters most is the health outcomes. And the health outcomes of American football are in every way far worse than MMA. You have routine years where multiple high schoolers die. You have routine years where Division I players get paralysis. Routine years where some kind of tragic, deeply. I mean, we had Alex Smith come back.

That was shocking. But we thought he was a goner 17 surgeries later. I wasn't sure he was going to walk again. In the end, what actually matters is the health outcomes. And if we want to have that debate, MMA comes off looking pretty good. I think there should be some consistency across the board there. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Ray Carruth there.

Let's keep him behind bars. All right, Luke. Thank you. Jay, can you dust off his soapbox now that he's been all over it? Can we show Luke? Jay, you got any more highlights or greatest KOs? I wanted to compare and contrast real quick on the way out here. Let's see some.

Because I think, Jay, hit me. Hit me with the horns, Monty. Come on. You got it? There it is. Oh, we got pictures. All right. Luke, I was going to say it had the shocking violence of Barbossa Edom,

but I think at the end of the day, it still falls behind this. Look, nobody gives this credit. Rousey Holm has one of the top three greatest knockouts of all time. Barbosa Adam may have been the most violent and perfect one we've ever seen. I think it's, you know, this one with Buckley's in that discussion, but for me, Luke,

the greatest knockout in UFC history is still Ngannou Overeem. Number one contender fight, violent as as all hell that is the most vicious knockout i've ever seen that is pretty vicious i agree just raw punching power you're right about rousey and home dude people sleep on that it's like what the knockout wasn't spectacular the head kick literally holly holm had rousey turned. She shoved her only to push her into range for her kick, head kicks her. And if you watch closely,

BC literally lifts her off of her feet and then it goes on and pounds her out, which was one of the biggest upsets, by the way, in sports and certainly fight sports history. I agree with you. That KO is criminally underrated and it's it's probably the most important knockout of any of these that we're talking about so the fact that it's that underrated and people hate rousey so how could that knockout be this underrated

i don't know luke but jay what do you think if i if i may uh if you remember luke you made the point earlier about the moment the casual non-mma fan was so invested in this fight because because rousey was on the run of a lifetime uh heading into this fight so people who just knew nothing about mma were watching this fight and the fact that she got knocked out i mean it's almost irrelevant uh what the knockout was the moment was just tremendous she was just unbeatable godlike whatever when she look i'm here for j here for Jay teaching you about MMA history, Luke. I'm here for this. Also, a little known fact, I sat next to Ronda Rousey on a flight from JFK to LAX,

and it was after one of her WWE matches, and she was not sober. Not sober. Okay. Okay. Hey, Luke, this may be the time. Have you seen Ronda Rousey's episode of Hot Ones that just came out? No. If you want to reinforce the stereotypes of what you may not like about Ronda Rousey,

then please watch that because there's some gross moments. There's a lot of gross moments, okay? I take it she doesn't come off great? First of all, let's put it out there okay people that i i i dabble on the chicken wing right i eat as much of the crap off of it as i can but when it's like the cartilage and the blood and the like i'd leave that she's one who dips the whole wing in the ranch sauce and then puts the whole wing in her mouth and pulls off every possible ending of it are Are you down with that?

No, I don't pull off. Yeah, no. I mean, I've seen that where they take it and they just, you know, it's like ice cream off a straw. Yeah. No, I don't do that. And then number two, she closes by talking about how bad her gas is going to be for Trav that night and ends it by saying, um,

essentially that he won't be able to toss salad for a week. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not here for this. I'm not here. I'm not, I'm not here at all for this.

Okay. I'll in fact, I'll leave. I'm done. It's it. I mean, I don't, I don't want anything to do with this.

Okay. That is a, that is awful. That is truly don't want to be charged for crimes with, for a comment like that. Um, all right. With that in mind, we go to bellator here for just a moment if we can bc mvp gets a win sorry i'm leaning to the wrong side here again mvp gets a win over ross houston but did he because the whole point about the win bc was that he was going to find a way back to a road with Douglas Lima at the end of it.

Did you see anything in there that would lead you to believe he could do better against Lima a second time? I did, and I think I'm alone in this based on social media reaction to this. Look, here's the deal, MVP. Against B-minus C-plus competition, that circus act is incredible. He will send caveman Rickles every other week to the deep dark depths. But against the elite, Luke, and oh, by the way, your characterization that it was a completely one-sided performance against Lima is a little bit wrong.

MVP had a little bit of moments. He did catch him with something. But my overall point is this. MVP cannot do that against the very elite really nobody can okay how many of our great ufc heroes from john jones to conor mcgregor did wild shit early on but as you climb up the levels you can't do that do you know what i need out of mvp a well-rounded solid performance which is what he gave here against a guy in ross houston who was good enough luke and established that early that he wasn't going to be a highlight reel victim.

He was unbeaten coming in, cage warriors champion, whatever. Wasn't good enough to win the fight, but was a solid enough opponent. Do you know what MVP did? He dominated him in every aspect, Luke. He landed big punches in the second round to completely cause Houston to go behind his guard and not fire back, and his takedown defense over the second half of that fight was dominant Luke I don't know what else you need to see was it exciting? No, was it entertaining? No, but the MVP has entertainment leaking out of his a-hole Luke This was like a solid performance that shows you he's taking his career more serious and going in there against an elite if he gets

a rematch with Lima I Kind of like the idea that he can explode at any time but he's going to have to learn how to score points and control the fight above and beyond that i think this was a next step forward in that regard whether you were entertained or not yeah i don't agree uh ross houston is a capable fighter and deserved to be taken seriously as a um a credible threat so what i take from it is that is that MVP certainly is more than just a can crusher, right? It's one thing to beat on totally overmatched opposition and you're breakdancing in the middle of the cage.

It's fun for virality, but what can you really say about someone's upside? Then he fights Douglas Lehman, he gets knocked out. He did rock him for a second, but he couldn't really do anything else with it, which is why I say it's basically one-sided and he got taken down and all i really had from underneath was risk control so why are we not showing highlights of this fight that we're talking about we own the doesn't cbs own the rights to this i could took it was on cbs sports network play the whole damn fight from start to finish for all i can you see would it be all right with you if i contributed to this portion of the conversation?

In any case. Yeah, go ahead, Luke. Yes, in any case, here's what I'll say. I'm not going to sit here and say that he's some bad fighter, that he's some totally overrated phenomenon, that he can't do well against credible threats. That's not what I'm saying. But beating Ross Houston kind of, I won't say barely, but steadily,

tells you absolutely nothing about how he's going to do against Douglas Lima. The difference between Houston and Lima is worlds apart. And so I respect that MVP does appear to have a commitment to his craft, and when it comes to getting his hand raised, he can do it. But there was nothing in this performance that told me we have to reimagine his upside in fact it just told us maybe his defense is a little bit sturdier and he can manage a fight if he has to those are not the ingredients bc to beat douglas lima not even close well luke what ingredients do you want you want him to finish houston with a highlight reel knockout

knowing that it's not as likely he can do that against a sort of perfectly well-rounded and tough Douglas Lima? Wouldn't you want him to come in there with better takedown defense, stay in his guard more, more accurate shots? You should be able to dominate a guy like Ross Houston if you want to have a chance. He did dominate him, though. He did not dominate him. It wasn't emphatic over the top, but he dominated him at every turn.

Did he even win the first round is very debatable. Very debatable. Here's my point. The whole thing is it's not fair to compare him to Anderson Silva, who's the greatest middleweight of all time. But I'm just pointing out, if you want to be one of the guys who can do incredible things, you've got to front kick Vitor Belfort. Now, that's a high standard, and I'm not saying he has to do

an equivalent thing, but you should be able to stop a guy like Ross Houston if you want to have a hope of beating Douglas Lima. You don't have to stop him to be considered good. He is good. He's a good fighter. You don't have to stop him to be able to do viral things against lesser opposition. There's nothing to do with it. You're talking about beating maybe the best welterweight on earth. That performance tells you he could beat the best welterweight on earth no it tells you that he's probably more than his critics say he is but he is not up to the standard of what a lima poses as a threat luke i'm sensing a a uh you know some raw energy coming out of you that you're very anakin in the midst of episode three right now i didn't sleep really well last night my daughter kicked me in the midst of episode three right now. I didn't sleep really well last night. My daughter kicked me in the face.

I will meet you at the Mustafar system if it has to go there, Luke, but wow here. Wow. No, it's not animus. It's like the only thing I don't, it's not about disrespecting the fighters. It's about do we take the narratives around them seriously? That is

totally different. I don't mind MVP's ambition. I don't mind. I don't mind at all that Bellator realizes if we give this guy something a little bit less, he's going to turn in viral performances. It's a business in the end. And beating Ross Houston, to me, is a credible win. It's fine. It's just not evidence you're going to beat Douglas Lima. That's what it's not. Hey, how about that close-up for the warlock there? Gareth A davis getting getting some big time airtime there why why was he wearing dark shades in a dark ass arena

because he is the the the splendid king of sartorial awesomeness that only a a a you know flamboyant brit like himself could could put out there so shout out to the warlock big time fan thank you last thing on this any Any thoughts on Congo versus Johnson Congo losing a split decision in his hometown? You know, he kind of deserved to lose that fight. Johnson's better than we thought, Luke. And he's not great. He's better than we thought.

I'll give him that credit. He's, you know, evolved out of sort of UFC Bellator journeyman status. He might be next for a title shot. I mean, look, it's like is that crazy he did knock out Matt Mitrione he did uh knock out uh who was the other fella you remember who was the other Javier Ayala I have to look it up no it was uh it was somebody of of sir oh it was Tyrell Fortune so like you know he's he's done the right things he came out there in a rematch of

a fight in which he got knocked out and really shut down check congo across the board so you know congo hadn't lost in bellator in like five years so um go for it give him a title shot all right bader look bader kind of needs a i don't want to say a soft landing because johnson's not soft but i'm interested to see what bader looks like coming off of this nemcoff loss maybe focusing his attention on heavyweight only moving forward and i think johnson's an interesting out because he's got that power you're not going to be able to manhandle him on the ground he's not sexy luke not sexy at all but uh this is a good win for him good win he can wrestle he has a wrestling background natural heavyweight totally rebounded from a bad start in bellator to get one win back that he initially had obviously lost,

and a three-fight winning streak. He's your title contender, I think, pretty obviously. How he does against Bader, who to me is much more athletic, you know, probably I would favor Bader, but I think it's a, you know, listen, if you're a champion, you've got to defend a title. This guy's put together the best win streak at heavyweight that I can think of right now, so let's see him do it. All right, BC.

Our last and final topic here for our top five today goes to what is coming up this weekend. It doesn't matter whether you like MMA or whether you like boxing. There are two main events headed our way, one in each sport, that are just magical. At 145 pounds in the UFC, the Korean Zombie is going to face off against the returning Brian Ortega. And over on boxing, and let's start there, wow, at 135 pounds, Vasily Lomachenko is going to take on rising sensation Teofimo Lopez, which could easily, BC, and you know this better than I do, be a pay-per-view fight. They're putting this thing for free on espn all you have to have is a cable subscription that's it okay what is the most important storyline heading into this big boxing fight and then we'll do the one

for the mma side of things uh without question it's the fact that is the question is this is teofimo lopez jr 23 years old unbeaten br, brash, Roy Jones-like explosion. Is he biting off more than he can chew going in there against, you know, arguably the best fighter pound for pound in the world in Lomachenko? Is this too much, too soon, too early, moving up to this level, challenging for all four belts at lightweight? Or is this a breakout party waiting to happen? I cannot figure it out.

We talk about loving 50-50 fights, Luke. To me, this is really 50-50 at the most elite level. It's a beautiful fight on paper. I think it might be the best fight in boxing on paper for this whole year. You don't get matchups like this. Somebody with big balls like that, willing to risk it all.

Let's just think about this. Lomachenko is everything. He's amazing, but he's fighting over his head at 135 pounds because that's where the competition is right now. And he's facing the toughest, most explosive test. I don't know if Lopez has the goods. If Lomachenko can figure him out, can Teofimo out box him for 12 rounds probably not but the fact that he has that unchecked explosiveness and the balls to go after it that's the biggest storyline too much too soon or or a star is born on this night we're gonna find that out on Saturday I can't friggin wait Luke and you better believe MK has you covered this week we got interviews lined up with Lopez Lomachenko we got breakdown videos we got a lot

coming for you in a fight that's uh as good as it gets in the sport let me ask what the devil's advocate for a second bc so i was looking at the odds for lopez both historically and for this fight here's what stood out to me this is easily the most that lopez has ever been an underdog in his entire professional career now the fight against richard Richard Comey was closer when it opened. Minus 125, minus 111, essentially a pick-em. So they thought that was very, very competitive. But they think that Lopez, they've got him at about a plus 270. They've got a Lomachenko at minus 500.

Now, I understand this is not MMA. But if it were MMA, you'd be like, this is a blowout. So why is it not a blowout? It's more of the idea. Like Lomachenko is the better, but no one's a better boxer in the world than Lomachenko. So I get the minus 500 there because if he can handle or avoid the power, this looks like one of those fights that Lomachenko could outclass the young

kid and, and, and be sort of that giant capstone dangerous hurdle cleared on his already Hall of Fame amazing career. But Lopez is going to be in this fight. We've seen Lomachenko get dropped before at 135 by Linares in a really close fight. He was in kind of a shootout there with Pedraza that a lot of people didn't realize how close it actually was. At 135, he's in a spot where he can get caught, even though he can brilliantly outbox you. And Lopez, we just don't know how great he is. I had Roy Jones Jr. on my podcast last year. I said, you know, does anybody remind you of Roy Jones Jr.?

He says, Teofimo Lopez Jr., the only one. I mean, you can't get a higher recommendation for somebody. Lopez is unorthodox he's ballsy he's explosive i absolutely don't know what this is going to look like luke and to be really honest in boxing we don't always get that even at the pay-per-view highest level this is not a pay-per-view it could be i don't know who's going to win it's going to be edge of your seat for those first three four five rounds and really the whole distance if it goes there. I'll say this, BC, for what it is worth from my perspective.

I actually had, back when I still did my radio show, I had Vinny Paz, who is the front man for the Jedi Mind Tricks, also Army of the Pharaohs, a rapper. Shouts to Boxcutter Pazzy. And he's a hardcore boxing scholar, fan the whole nine yards. He sort of believed at the time, now maybe it's different now, that this was going to be a runaway for Lomachenko. Now, to be clear, Vinny and you and a lot of people know a lot more than me,

but I've been looking at a lot of tape on Lopez, and I just feel like, what are y'all not seeing that I am? He is incredible. He makes fast decisions. Dude, he is an A-plus level athlete. BC, I know you love guys that dare to be great. He is one of them. And he's had a few moments in his life where he's been cut out at the knees with the Olympics, losing the spot to be on the U.S. team on a technicality, going for his father's country of Honduras, and then losing to the eventual silver medalist, but also in a very close fight that he probably could have won.

He is, to me, heavy-handed at 135. He probably has a future BC, I think you would agree, maybe at 140 or even above that as he gets a little bit older and more mature, you know, late 20s, early 30s kind of a thing. As you indicated, when he was fighting the guys below 135, up to Rigondel, Lomachenko was just running through them for the most part, the Salido fight notwithstanding. At 135, he's been dominant there too,

but he's had a couple of, even the Campbell fight, had a couple of dicey moments all the way through it. To me, this is like, do I expect Lomachenko to win? He's maybe the smartest, most sophisticated boxer I've ever laid eyes on personally. But there is something about Lopez at this age getting better fight over fight, his athleticism, his power, his ability to make reads and adjustments. I absolutely consider him to be a live dog.

So less than this being the Lomachenko show, I actually feel like this could be the coming out party to a degree of Teofimo Lopez if the Comey fight wasn't. I find this to be a 50-50, flip a coin. Is it going to be the skills of Lomachenko that went out? Or the maybe somewhat less skilled but much more athletic for this weight class Lopez? I love everything about this fight, and I'll say it again, free, BC. By the way, tell the fans, didn't Lomachenko have to give up part of his purse to make this fight and i'll say it again free bc by the way tell the fans didn't loma chanko

have to give up part of his purse to make this fight possible that's how badly he wanted it the negotiations were falling apart at some point because lopez felt that he was a little bit low bald loma chanko again in in the argument for your pound for pound king stood up and was like i'll take less to fight this guy to teach him a lesson there's bad blood between them i don't know if everyone here knows lopez is his dad junior his trainer teo fimo senior they call him junior he is um a madman okay and he was the guy who sort of started the idea this fight two years ago by going up to lomachenko as vasily was going to walk to the ring for his fight at madison square garden against linares and got in his face and was like, my son's going to kick your ass. I mean, this is the pressure put on Lopez Jr. who just turned 23, Luke, but he's very mature,

married already. Like this guy is, you don't have to worry about anything in terms of being young. I want to close on this about the style matchup though. Lomachenko is a wizard. He does things footwork wise, angles wise that traditional boxers just can't pick up can't deal with he's also fighting a completely unorthodox guy in lopez who like i mentioned does those roy jones things where you leap in with a left hook that you just don't see coming when you match weird with weird it's gonna be you know it's gonna be a challenge for lomachenko to pick up those rhythms he's used to orthodox guys coming at him and he just dances around them you get you get two weird things they're going to collide like us luke like this show okay a lot of weird elements in

this show makes for combustion we're going to see that on saturday can't wait can't freaking wait i i totally love your analysis looking forward to your interviews with these gentlemen it's going to be here on the mk channel by the way so stay tuned all right but we can't forget about our mma side of things bc brian ortega back after two years. He wasn't USADA suspended, but he was out as long as one would be if they had been back against a Korean zombie. I'll go to you one more time on this. What is the major storyline that you are paying attention to

for this sensational main event? Yeah, it's 100% about how does Ortega look, but I think even more importantly for me, Luke, as an Ortega fan, straight up, I'm going to say that. What style is he going to employ moving forward? He was a guy who we became known for being a submission expert. He's amazing on the ground, a wizard in his own right. Yet he went in there against Max Holloway the last time we saw him. And Luke, he showed you that old school LA in him, that guy from the

streets who was willing to fight to the death. You know, you hate using terms like that, but he used it himself and the way he talked about it as his face was falling apart, still coming on, still landing shots against Holloway in that fight. What is now two years removed? His future look like we want to see him answer the questions physically. Can he be fresh against a tough ass opponent here in the zombie can he be all those things but what type of style is going to be his best chance excuse me of getting back into this title picture and being a player a lot

of pressure on him luke lot a lot of pressure right now okay i know that sometimes we dabble in things that relieve the pressure and you know he made that movie with holly berry i have no idea what happened behind the scenes but shout out to him regardless. Hopefully that relieved some of the pressure, Luke. But I will say, I can't wait. I can't wait to see what this guy, because you're not ready. You got a bad strategy.

The zombie's going to lay you the hell out, bro. Even if you have a good strategy, he might lay you the hell out. I agree that your narrative, the one about Brian Ortega, that is the predominant narrative here, no doubt. But I should give a little bit of mention to also the narrative about the Korean zombie. Here was a guy who, I've said this on my personal live chat many times, his nickname doesn't even make sense anymore. I mean, it's an amazing nickname. It sounds really

cool. But he got it because he was one of these guys who would just sort of stand there squared up, take a big shot and keep going. That's not who he is anymore. He is dynamic on the feet. He's got good head movement. He's got amazing boxing. He's got good counter striking, good ground and pound. He can take the back with ease and hold it positionally. He's just a really amazing, well-rounded fighter. And for him to take all that time off between 2013 and 2017 for military service in South Korea and to come back and be a significantly better version of himself, not only will he be the title contender if he ends up winning this contest, although I suppose Ortega might be as well,

but beyond that, just to show what is capable, like who really is the Korean zombie? What can he do? The run he's been on, I mean, he was beating Jair Rodriguez before that amazing elbow, right? So he's actually, should be, should be on a four fight winning streak. He dispatched Frankie Edgar like it was nothing. I really feel like if he beats Ortega and gets to that title fight again, he had one against Jose Aldo in a different era to reinvent yourself and get another title shot years later with a much more updated game, and to be at your best while you do that, that is remarkable.

That is very, very difficult to do. If he's able to do it, I'd take my hat off to him, and if you didn't take him seriously before, you better start. Yeah, he's been awesome since returning from that two-year break, and I did get a chance to interview him through a translator a month ago. What I thought was interesting. What he said, Luke, was that he completely regrets that whole trash talk incident on Ariel show with his translator, Jay Park and Ortega slapping park at the, uh, at the UFC

fight earlier this year in the crowd. He said he only did that because he thought the fans would like it. He said, it's not who he is as a character at all in a person. And it brought so much stress on his life that he's just basically look i love ortega i respect him we're just gonna go to war because that's what i do i like that candidness there and that's who he is i mean he just brings the the lunch pail it just so happens that he's rounded out his game like you mentioned to be a tough ass out if he beats ortega whether it's 100 ortega from two years ago or any type of other version, yes,

Dana already said the winner of this fight is getting the title shot, and he's going to be a live dog in there against all your heroes, right? Volkanovski, Holloway, whoever else he can get in there with, he's in that fight against City Cock Boxing star Alexander Volkanovski, okay? He's in that fight. He's going to be up in his ass too, Luke. He's in that fight, all right? Very good.

All right. So a lot to look forward to. Luke, a fight fan on Saturday with that in mind let's go to the next segment this is where you get to ask us questions we put out a post on Instagram every Sunday it's time now for DMs from donks. There's the animation. Hee haw. Alright, BC, up first from at m.chard. In retrospective, I think he means retrospect, of

Saturday's UFC event, should we make it a national holiday to laugh at people who dislike a card before it even happens? What do you think? Who disliked this card? Who think? Who disliked this card? Who in the hell disliked this card before it happened? I don't get it. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of people bagging on it.

I didn't see that. But let's imagine. This was a freaking amazing fight on paper, this main event. It had a good co-main too. Let's imagine we had a card for UFC standards. You were like, oh, this is well below it. What about then? We're allowed to have an opinion there are times we mentioned that like when Conor's on top of a card they don't load it up right doesn't mean those fights can't live you know go above expectations

it also doesn't mean you need to go back and tag everybody who who told you this isn't a great fight on paper it is what it is we all have luke it's like you're afraid to give predictions of fights because you think people are going to hold it to you to the death that you thought you know uh volkanovski was going to dance around the zombie and then the zombie took his soul who cares we're trying to make the best guess in the moment sometimes you look at a ufc card it sucks the horn we tell you the truth is what we do on this show okay people think i'm drinking white claws i'm not i'm drinking hemp infused seltzer called calo get the pomegranate peach flavor it's fantastic thank you i'll just say this it's like look it's true nobody can predict the future you

can look at a card on paper and it doesn't really interest you and it ultimately ends up being really entertaining for one reason or another but a couple things one if people are dismissive about it maybe ask why. Maybe it lacks star power and they're casual fans, in which case that doesn't really affect you, but maybe it's because they're not really interested in the matchups. Like, in the end, Overeem versus Augusto Sakai ended up being a pretty decent, if not outright good fight,

but it wasn't like, I'm trying to budget, I have 24 hours in a day, BC, I'm trying to budget my time. Is that something I want to necessarily budget time for ahead of time? No, it's not necessarily one of those things. It's not an indictment. And the last thing I would say is don't fall for promoter tricks. Promoters want to tell you, oh, you have to watch everything because that's where you'll get all the good stuff

is if you miss all the stuff that people laugh at. A, it's not really true. And B, they're just trying to get you to watch. Don't fall for it. Hey, promoters, don't tell me how to live my life, okay? Hey, Puff Daddy, vote or die, I'm dead, okay? You can't tell me, okay? Your grandfather fought in a war, Luke,

so that I don't have to vote, okay? Thank you. In the end, watch what you want to watch, and if you were wrong, go back and watch it later. That's the end. All right, at Lalo. I'll vote for Nader every year if they let me, okay? You can write him in if you were wrong, go back and watch it later. It's the end. All right, at Lalo. I'll go for Nader every year if they let me, okay? You can write him in if you want.

At Lalo.erm, is UFC compensating the latest quantity over quality with great matchmaking? So the idea here at BC would be, we've got a bunch of Contender Series guys in there, but we're making it work by putting them in interesting fights that brings out the best action do you agree with that yeah yeah look look let's let's say what needs to be said here dana white hero during the quarantine whether you liked his taichi palace season or not he got the fights back on he's dealing with a smaller group of uh

of of pool of available fighters sometimes because of travel or whatever. Also, you know, you've read ESPN had a nice story about how the quarantine's killing the regional boxing and MMA promotions in terms of feeding fighters up. This has not been easy for Sean Shelby, Mick Maynard, and everybody there at the top level. And UFC is running laps around everyone else in combat sports from the standpoint of still putting on consistent quality cards some of it's been just creative matchmaking some of it's been hey Hannah Cyphers will fight for the 14th time this weekend let's do it you know whoever's available is going to jump in there and I think it's been a big success I have nothing bad to say about that Luke okay yeah look there's definitely been a lot of fights that did not need to get made, which were LFA quality or whatever else you want to say.

But a couple things. One, in this situation, if you can do it safely, and the UFC has demonstrated to the best of our ability that they can do it safely, I'll take that over having nothing. Number one. That's the first thing you should say. Number two, you're right. There probably is something to be said for like, okay, we've got limited resources. How do we maximize that with interesting matchmaking?

There's something to be said for that as well. But BC, I make this point all the time and people disagree with it. I don't really understand how it's even possible, which is, dude, MMA fighters are better than they've ever been. I went back and I watched from 2013, a video on YouTube that the UFC had put up,

which was at the time, so 2013, you know, best knockouts. And many of those stand the test of time, to be clear. But it's just amazing to watch how much better fighters have gotten. Now, it's true, just because fighters have gotten better, sometimes the fights can be more boring because they don't have an ace in the hole skill-wise

or they just, you know, they match up too evenly or something. It doesn't necessarily make every fight better. But I don't know. I'll take better fighters fighting better fighters over worse fighters fighting worse fighters 99 times out of 100. I just think in general, you're just getting a lot more bang for your buck in terms of what these guys can do by the time they get to the UFC, whether they're contender series fighters or not. So maybe it's a little bit of luck, a lot of engineering,

but I also feel like, dude, fighters are amazing today. I've said it before, BC, this is the best time in the history of humanity to be a combat sports fan. Embrace it. Yeah, it is. I have to give a mea culpa here i've given you this take before on various versions of mk and i and i believe it that

today's nba i'm the old guy you know on the porch saying get off my lawn take me back to the 90s when we could do high pick and roll and post-up game and all that i do in some ways hate the new nba which is all drive and dish, three-pointers left and right. But I was watching the finals, you know, at a super fan level, which ended last night, Luke. And I did sort of, you know,

have that wake up and realize moment. We can't go back there because basketball players have never been this good before, Luke. You know what I mean? It's like there's, you can't have a John Koncak out there anymore. You can't have a Charles Oakley. You can have a seven-foot Anthony Davis who can make th a John Koncak out there anymore. You can't have a Charles Oakley.

You can have a seven-foot Anthony Davis who can make threes and dribble and do everything, and that's the evolution of where we're at. I mean, look, I don't like the rule changes in the mid-2000s that opened up the floor to a lot of degrees, but we are seeing the highest evolution of the human craft here. Even in combat sports video podcasting as well, Luke. That's why we are ahead of the human craft here. And, you know, even in, um, combat sports, uh, video podcasting as well, Luke.

Okay. That's why we are ahead of the game. Very good. I agree with all of that at, uh, okay. This is a tough one at Olaf. Oh,

I think I got that right. What is your opinion on Kevin Sataki style of reffing? In my opinion, he interrupts fights and talks to fighters a bit too much. BC, a ref should be like a dude in porno. You should talk as little as possible. I was going to say

a ref should be like a cameraman in that genre or like the boom mic guy. All boom mic guys in adult films should be like Keith Peterson. Remember when Dominic Cruz said he smelt like bitches in cigarettes? That's what basically those guys should be so uh we should know little about them and uh although you know if we can hook up an mk journey to wherever josh

rosenthal hangs out i'd like to uh i'd like to go down that road with you luke okay um i'll have what he's having but uh outside of that i don't even know who this kevin sakai guy is and maybe that wasn't yeah i forget exactly which fights he was refereeing, but he's a lot of like, you know, don't talk trash. And, you know, he's just constantly sort of like. Yeah, they do that in boxing sometimes. You know, don't talk trash. That's what fighting is built off of.

I know. I get it. I mean, if they're doing that and not fighting, I think you can say something. But if they're doing that while fighting, just let it rock. You know, who cares? Yeah. He probably is a little bit too involved for my taste.

There was another referee, Lucas something. I forget his last name. I think he was Polish. He was a pretty good referee there on Saturday night. All right, from Marquis. Real quick, Lucas. Lucas, real quick. Is Mark Goddard the best referee in the game right now?

He's pretty good. He's pretty good. I've often said this. He got maligned in the Usman versus Woodley fight totally unfairly. Is he perfect? No. Does he make mistakes? They all do. But pound for pound, he might be number one. By the way, where's Josh Rosenthal? Why aren't we seeing him more?

I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I mean, Herb Dean's still the OG. We still got some guys. We haven't seen Amazagati around in a while. You know what's ironic about that is Dana hates the crap out of that guy. You know that guy works for the Vegas Commission, so he's the guy sitting next to the cage in the referee shirt, like keeping the time and all that.

Yeah, he's the footlocker salesman. Yes, yes. All right. Marquise 8 Phillips says, Darren Till seemed to offer himself as a potential matchup for kamzat do you guys agree that it would be a good matchup and how do you think it would play out yeah it'd be a great matchup yeah it'd be a freaking fantastic matchup and i'm and i'm here for kamzat having the balls to just be like give me anyone and i'll fight them right now let's

do it we had this talk already Some prospects I want to take careful. This guy, he might be too good. All right, let's see it. I want to have it. I'm just sick of the people that are tweeting me, he should fight Chandler. At what freaking weight class is he going to fight Chandler? Stop this.

Yeah, and also it's like, dude, this thing about Kamzat, it's like, listen, he might actually be the man. I'm not telling you that he's not. It's not one of those situations where I look at him and I'm like'm like oh i can declare to you that we know his upside and it's limited i don't know what his upside is but that's sort of my point it's like there's so many unknowns here he could go in there and fight darren till and get fucked up that is a very real possibility now if he goes in there and he beats up darren till well then you know forget it just rush that guy to a title shot like he's been you know hitting the stomach goes in there and he beats up Darren Till, well then, you know, forget it. Just rush that guy to a title shot like he's been, you know, hitting the stomach with shotgun shells and he has to go to the emergency room.

I mean, that kind of urgency. But we just don't know a whole lot about him. Because the guys he had longer fights with are not super elite. And the fight he recently had, we knew he had big power. I tweeted he had big power before he had the fight. Okay, it's's nice but it still doesn't tell you a whole lot we need more information so slow the roll everybody all right thank you last but not least from at man's low 84 bc this is taylor made for you what are the keys

to victory for both lomachenko and teofimo uh for by the way there's some weird elements in this matchup. If you want to make comparison to Connor versus Aldo in, in some ways, like Tao is not as brash as Connor was in that point, but that that's really your equivalent of what this fight is. Okay. The key to victory here. Look, Lopez is certainly going to be looking for like the leaping left hook and

the big power shots, but he's going to have to have moments where he boxes. So he's got to find Loma Chinko with that jab. He's got to be able to set up his power shots, but he's going to have to have moments where he boxes. So he's got to find Lomachenko with that jab. He's got to be able to set up his power shots and not just be head hunting and looking for the, for the counter. Uh, any chance he could go to the body to the slow Lomachenko down, that's going to be a big, uh, part of that being the bigger man, uh, you know, trying to body up. It's not easy.

It's not easy to corral Lomachenko. Lomachenko is going to have to be a wizard. He's going to have to just come out with, you know with footwork patterns and creativity that loma you can't prepare for either of these guys which is what makes this matchup so well they're so unique in their styles but lomachenko has this problem you know he can't get hit with the big one here he can't you know the this is uh this is a size issue if anything here so he's gonna have to uh swim without getting wet as the great nasim richardson would say only he has you know he's better equipped to do that than than really anybody else because of how unique his craft is

yeah the only thing i would add for lomachenko is he has got to box in such a way that when teofimo opens up he's able to counter him to such a degree that Lopez will then say, well, I need to be much more judicious in the way in which I open up, because that will then make him more calculated, which will make him even more readable. But to the extent Lopez can just get going and land, that's a problem for Lomachenko. All right, BC, we got to be silly.

Take it away. It doesn't have to be silly, but you know what we do, Luke, okay? The greatest segment in the history of combat sports is upon us. We scour the globe for the highs and lows, the good and bad in combat sports and beyond. Jay, I didn't say start it yet, but this is Have You Seen This Shit? UFC may have produced the best knockout of all time, but check out what happened, Luke, in KSW 55.

It's Mohamed Khaladov jumping switch kick mommet kaladov given us a lot to get fired up about luke this video went viral like two hours before the buckley knockout and people were going sick in my mentions in my slacks and my texts this was you know this guy was the star for a couple hours this is is fantastic. Look at that ref taking a fall. That is, I mean, it's amazing that this knockout is easily second, third best of the weekend. It's not even close to the first best, and that's an amazing KO. Yeah, my colleague at CBS Sports, Brent Brookhouse, had a great comment.

San Hagen's spinning knockout kick of Marais was sick, and it's like a distant for third best of the weekend. Yeah, I agree. That is some good ish right there. All right, let's go to Bellator 248. Luke, did you pop for this? Oliver Enkamp was in there against Dawa. Put on the Japanese necktie.

Luke, is this impressive? Why is this different than a regular front choke? So I'm trying to see here. It is, okay, that's a three-quarter stack he has right there. And then he turns that into, oh, I see. It's just the gripping is a little bit different. There's no bicep grip. He's just taking his hands and he's scissoring the back of the head

into the chest there. And then he sits on top of it like that. See that? And then he's got the leg wrap too. So he's just crunching everything in, but the gripping is a little bit different. More or less impressive than a McKenziteen? McKenziteen's

pretty goddamn impressive. The reason why this is interesting is because in the normal progression of chokes, this is halfway there, and what someone has figured out is you can stop halfway there if you make the right adjustments to it. And it becomes all the way there all of a sudden. That's why.

All right. Let's roll on. Later in the night at Bellator Paris, did you see the celebration from Francis Eve Landau after his knockout look? I've always wanted to do that thing where you grab your other foot and put the other foot between it. Look at this. Yeah, at my seventh grade dances in middle school there would always be like one kid who could do that in the center and everybody else would would shyly form a circle around and just watch that this is pretty sick

luke i gotta give this credit for this celebration but luke is it better than emil valhalla from last month going sick after this celebration, Luke. Who wins? Check this out. Ground and pound, and then shot out like a cannon, Luke. This isn't last month. This was the Italian show that he was on. This was like a couple years ago, no? Oh, my bad, Luke.

There's no time stamps when people send me this crap, but that guy's losing his ish. I've actually been excited luke um for this is you when i send you a text about please retweet my dissected yeah always fishing always fishing for traffic this guy all right that's that's fine that's fine let's roll on here uh luke uh bellator paris and 248 was the first major card in france since it was legalized but there was an mma gp show on friday and um8 was the first major card in France since it was legalized. But there was an MMA GP show on Friday. And check out the lighting, first of all. But how do you like this spinny shit on the Dennis Seaver-style finish and then the celebration?

You down for all this? Well, you missed the whole story, which was this. You're right. This was the first card in France ever. And the first strike that this guy landed here the one who won was a kick to the balls which means the first ever strike in pro MMA in France was a ball kick sounds very appropriate did you like Dana White throwing shade at Coker by tweeting out because this was you could see this on Fight Pass tweeting out you know the historic first card in France's history turned

to Fight Pass right now yeah who cares he blocked me on twitter anyway all right all right who cares about that hey let's go on luke check out this dancing horse okay we got a mariachi band live but this horse gives no cares whatsoever first of all check out his technique pretty good right yeah this must be a female because or maybe because it doesn't have the unit that uh that uh aaron pico's Yeah, this guy looks like Canelo on the horse. He's chilling out. They're dancing. We're celebrating. I'm sure this is a pretty good parking lot party.

You got to be careful, though, around a horse, Luke. You don't want to set him off. You don't want to make a loud noise. Look out, Luke. Oh, God. Holy. There's a Piper down. Yes, there's a mariachi guy down a cleanup on uh wow wow i said no more macarena yes please please okay yes that was something uh speaking of rough

riding um picture us riding dirty on this medley of stuff luke check out the guy on this scooter. This does not end well. Yeah, that's one of those things where it's like, hey, how flexible is the human spine? We advance further to BMX, Luke. This is what happens when the brakes fail you, Luke. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh,

God. fail you luke oh no no no no oh god i feel like that was planned though right i mean what else was he trying to do here oh god all right there's a lot of there's a lot of bored kids in the suburbs man check out this dirt bag on the dirt bike here luke this may be third world style here this guy out here chasing waterfalls. Bro, please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to. This does not end well for this gentleman, Luke. Dude, they always tell you do not try and cross an open body of water. And this motherfucker was like, yes, but I have a dirt bike from 1973.

Luke, speaking of motorized vehicles, I think there should be an age limit on a vespa you got to be at least 65 to get on one of these right this guy coming up here can we advance it jay way too young oh we don't have it all right hey let's move on uh let's go to the way in luke did you see marcus perez uh channeling his inner dark knight yeah that shit's played out and not funny or cool well let's ask his opponent drisiscus Duplessis, making his UFC debut. He got a little payback when they stepped in the cage. Can we advance the video? Oh, yeah.

Why so serious, bro? Right? Wow. If you're going to wear that stuff, you got to win. You got to win, Luke. And he did the whole lip licking thing, too. Like, he was all in on the bit. It's like, save that shit for Halloween, player.

Hey, this guy looked like a player. This guy ripped. He's jacked. He's throwing bombs, right? South African. And by the way, did you see what he said? He's like, I'm going to be the first African-born, like, trained, live-in champ ever. Or first one, anyway.

I was like, okay, shit. All right. Well, yeah, okay. Who had a white guy on first African champ in UFC history on their bingo card? The first factory town born guy to host a podcast. All right. Hey, Luke, let's go on to pole dancing done right. Or how about, first of all, this is what happens when drunk tricks.

They get to the sidewalk. They see a lamppost. They live out their inner dreams. Well done. But you got to be careful, Luke, because everybody thinks they can one-up you check out this lady in behind saying oh hold on hold on you think you could see you could think you could climb that pole watch this check out the og getting ready here luke how do you think this ends do them things have weight limits look is this is this account ho chaser no chaser they they got crazy drunk things i can't see

stream here is blurry wow dude they ain't hoagie farts but there's something in that all right let's go on let's check in on abuela okay let's check in she's hanging out with the grandkids all right we got her on the rope and tire swing once again there are weight limits on these things luke this is an elderly woman you got to be careful i mean anything can happen right here look this swing is just launching campesinos into the jungle. Holy shit balls. She's not coming back from that Luke. She's not coming back.

Okay. They have now grinded up her bones and, and, uh, added it to bags of cocaine. Luke, I'm sorry. Easiest fork kidnap in history.

Yeah. We, everybody smoked a lot of oregano, right? That's what happens when you buy it off. Wow. All right. Uh,

let's go on Luke from the hard knocks fighting association. This looks. Let's go on, Luke, from the Hard Knocks Fighting Association. This looks to be the Canadian equivalent. Oh, wait. Sorry, we got a Street Fighter of the Week. I'm way off bounds here. Wow. Now, Luke, does it hurt the deliverer of the headbutt on this type of KO? Does it hurt?

So the trick is on headbutts that I've been told, and I don't know how true this is so someone who knows about head butts might say i'm wrong but you ever notice if you head a soccer ball on certain parts of your head it hurts more or less depending on where you do it also if you punch someone like the top of the head it's stronger my understanding is you want a head butt where the skin meets the hair so the hairline right around here because that's where the skull is strongest and you can still kind of aim with it. You can't do it with

the front facing part of your dome. And if you look closely the dude kind of leans into it, right? Yeah, he walked right into it. I mean, it is... The thing is, this is why you can't get into street fights, Luke. You don't know which short guy is going to

turn out to be Hoist Gracie. You don't know if somebody's going to headbutt you or shit you. I've seen so many street fights working at bars and shit. I always tell people, like, dude, you're not the badass you think you are, nine times out of ten. And the other dude, you just don't know what they're capable of. I have seen pipsqueaks go out there and just put knuckle game to people that you would never imagine or you are tougher than them but you're

too drunk to fight yeah look some people's goal is to sit in this chair and play these these have you seen this videos other people's goal in life is to be in them okay so you decide how your game is going to end look let's go to the hard knocks fighting association i've never heard of this uh but it's in Canada. This looks like the Canadian equivalent of Holloway Llamas, round three. You remember this from 199? Wow, that is just

terrible fighting. Just really, really bad fighting. Shout out to the at Haymakers Instagram account. All right, Lukeke let's bring on some basketball here this may be the greatest slam dunk facial of all freaking time look i don't care that the hoop is six feet tall look at this wow take that big country wow wow no you gotta get like the nuts in his face that's when he really yeah you gotta go to the

full tea bag so there's about nine out of ten right there that is great all right good dunk hey let's move on to uh party tricks with uh with boobs here check out this guy using the moobs to make the flip cup work impressive you know what rock what got. But it's not really his moves. It's his belly, right? Yeah. Well, I love the celebration from his friends. Yes. I'd maybe tell him to close the shirt up before we man hug. All right.

But that might not be the best use of the breast this week when it comes to party fare. Let's move on here. Check out this chick crushing cans with cans, Luki in do you do that with real ones or fake ones those look real them look real luke i don't know whether i'm like aroused or horrified yeah i mean you can be both i've seen it i've been there it's happened okay all right luke people say we only do bad videos here of people failing. Let's celebrate a win here. Check out this dog playing Jenga.

Look, this is not an easy game. You can get hurt, too. Look at this guy. I love this dog. He's got it. Yes. I love this dog. It's the best, right?

That dog is great. They do say chocolate labs are the smartest. That's brilliant. it all right uh we got one more here to close luke a little little um little programming note we are moving all um viewer fan art submissions any pictures of people wearing mk content to wednesday show moving forward getting it off of the have you seen this shit brand this brand moving forward will only be dongs dogs winning at jenga and old lady violence okay but we got one more for you luke in honor of the late eddie van halen check out sensei van halen here yes love it

no idea what's going on but i'm in on it you know what i don't is this cool or yeah this is cool this is cool it's cool dojo life wouldn't post it unless it was cool all right i mean you know this dude has like three pet snakes and is like two months behind on the rent but i could see this guy as a meth cooker right yeah yeah this dude has definitely tried on fire too what's with guitar on fire, too. What's with the guitar on fire? Oh, he goes headbutt right there. Love that. Yeah, he should Hendrix that crap up, Jay.

You know what I'm talking about. This looks like a scene out of Cobra Kai. I mean, here's the deal. I could see that being Ron Johnson's. Here's the deal. Is this cool if you do this and then you also sleep in your car? Hey, many famous people, including Jewel and Ronda R rousey have had to sleep in their car hey listen i've been broke as fuck too but i wasn't cool for it notice everyone in the

background's face is blurred they want no part yeah they don't they don't want and he missed that and he missed the last break and just keeps going this is saturday night at the trailer park this is great is that is that eight mile all right let's get out of this look you've seen it it is what it is all right people love it go ahead it's very good have you seen this shit uh all right bc with that in mind it is time now for odds and ends what do you have good sir uh look back to boxing real quick demetrius andrade you're uh i think he's the wbo middleweight champion we know his history luke he may be the most difficult out from 154 all the way up to 168 pounds in the sport. But he sat out almost two years to get out of a promotional deal,

signed with Eddie Hearn and DAZN, and can't get the big guys in the ring, even though he's in the same promotional network sphere that includes all the big names in his area. Canelo, Saunders, all those guys. So here's what he did this week. He did an interview with Dan Rayfield at Boxing Scene. Called Billy Joe Saunders all those guys so here's what he did this week he did an interview with Dan Rayfield a boxing scene called Billy Joe Saunders a bitch called Canelo a bitch said Charlo meet me for a 160 unification um Luke look this is this is how you have to talk when people

don't want to fight you because you're a little bit too skilled and a little bit, you know, not marketable enough, so to speak. I don't know if we can make that fight networkly, promotionally. I'd like to live in a world where anything can happen. I want to see this guy in a big fight to showcase his talent before he turns 40. Is that too much to ask in boxing? He's one of those guys who slipped through the cracks. I commend him for basically calling out anyone in and around his division let's let's get this guy in a big fight please okay i think that's quite reasonable okay

also real quick uh the mike coppinger of uh the athletic put out there that tyson fury looking to get out of that trilogy fight in december against deontay wilder mostly because he believes wilder's team is trying to push the fight to 2021 luke, I know this is the ugly side of boxing, the business side. If you're an MMA fan, you're like, why do we even talk about this? Because unfortunately in boxing, this becomes your headline news in between fights. According to Coppinger's sources, Fury may not be contractually obligated past the new year to make this fight happen. Now, if they can't make it

for december fury wants to have a homecoming in great britain early in december and then fight anthony joshua maybe even twice next year luke i don't know how it's going to end i don't know if this is a public move by fury to put pressure on shelly finkel and team wilder and pbc to make this fight happen in december i know they wanted to put it in Raiders stadium. I know the NFL schedule is making that tough. If you're team Wilder, do you think that it's a better situation to push that fight off? Knock out a few cans.

Cause here's the deal. Luke, and this is a heavyweight Renaissance era, meaning we got four or five names like that are fun that, that, that make great fights, but very few people can go 12 rounds with Deontay Wilder. I'm sorry.

Very few people can write Tyson Fury at this point, maybe the only guy we don't know yet. Okay. I mean, Stiverne did five years ago because while they're broke his right hand, but we saw what happened in that rematch. If he goes back and rebuilds himself, starts knocking fools out,

but mixing in more with a jab, he may bang the drum so loud that after Fury fights AJ once or twice and becomes the biggest star in the world, that trilogy fight might be bigger than we ever could imagine. What would you do if you're Team Deontay? Yeah, I don't take that fight because you lose that and you're damaged goods forever. That was a bad enough loss where you want to take that when you have a reasonable chance

at doing well enough. And I know everyone's like, oh, he was injured and blah, blah, blah. Okay. I'm not saying a third fight would look the same as the second. It'd probably be an average between the first and the second, somewhere around there. Nevertheless, I don't take it. I take an opportunity to remind everyone about my positives and then get a fight down the road.

You're still going to make big money no matter what. Do that. Don't take it. By the way, it's very boxing that the biggest news in the heavyweight division is that a fight is not going to be made. That is just epic, epic boxing news. That's the damn sport. It is what it is.

All I'm saying is, like you said, if he loses, we may not ever have a need for another Fury fight. And if that third fight can be the biggest fight you can make in the sport a year and a half from now, and while there's confidence and brand is refurbished and you have all four belts on the line and you do it in front of 90,000 in England, or put a stadium on the moon,

do it in front of 100,000 at Cowboy Stadium, whatever, it might be an event, Luke. And you might not get to that event if you lose to him a second time no doubt about it all right from my odds and ends this was a weird one so last week john jones and israel adesanya were going back and forth and back and forth and back and forth whatever but in one of those exchanges on social media on twitter john jones confirmed the story that chael sonnen told in 2016 on the joe rogan podcast that he had heard john had hid from drug testers under the cage at jackson wink now john gives a slightly different version which is it wasn't usada he was hiding from he was hiding from um the nevada commission and they were, yes, they were drug testers, but he was only hiding

because he had just, in his words, smoked a blunt. But he confirmed that it was more or less true. So then ESPN, with Mark Ramondi, reaches out to the Athletic Commission because Vanderlei Silva had just duffed on a test, and they threw the book at him for it, and they asked the commission for a comment. Now, the commission didn't give one, but they don't take to that kind of reckless disregard very kindly. I don't know what's going to happen, BC, but I find the admission strange.

Super strange. So, look, there's a lot of John critics, and they're rightfully so. And the thing you hear a lot from them, Luke, is that sadly he's an idiot in terms of handling certain public things, meaning that all of the trouble he's gotten into was his fault in a lot of ways. This sort of falls in line with that. If in a trash talk exchange you're sort of publicly incriminating yourself on a potential thing. Um,

hate to see it. I think he's the greatest of all time. I love watching him love covering his career. It's been some wild moments for all of us. Luke, he sent, he sent more than a few people to hell, not just you at that press conference that time,

but, um, yeah, I don't know what's going to happen here. John has been Teflon. I mean, you saw that went out of their way to get him back in there. UFC moved the freaking card, you know, December,

a couple years back from Vegas to L.A. for him. Something's got to catch up with him eventually, correct? Yeah, that was a bizarre one. I did not understand that one at all. I was very like, dude, why would you? Okay, forget it. Who cares? We'll see if the Nevada Commission does anything.

That's the key, though. Do they just let it slide? My thought is they probably will, but who knows? They might do the book in his ass, too. If they can get Jones and Ganu and T-Mobile, maybe they'll let it pass. Yeah, exactly. All right. Very good.

BC, we should remind the good folks, if they want some merch, it's available. Store.show.com. You can get tumblers like this. You can get mugs. You can get hats, shirts, beanies, the whole nine yards. There you go. BC's got his on right there, rocking it like a trucker

who is looking for a piece of ass at a truck stop from some kind of local prostitute. I don't know why you're wearing it like that. Anyway, but you can go to store.show.com. I'm going to spoil this good hair day. You think I'm going to just mess that up? Okay. I do other things besides this show and light fluke, okay?

I see that. If you want to try Showtime, you certainly can. Go to showtime.com. You can get a 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can go F yourself. And we're on social media, BC. We're on Twitter.

We're on Instagram. This channel right here is on YouTube. Morning Combat for everything that's Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube related. Luke Thomas News for me. Brian C. Campbell on Instagram. L. Thomas News on Twitter. And then B. Campbell CBS. B. Campbell CBS. Remind the folks what you have going on

in terms of interviews this week. Oh, yeah. Look, we got one-on-ones with Lomachenko, with Teofimo Lopez Jr. that's going to, throughout this week, set the stage. We're going to have some boxing bonus material. I like this little, this catalog we're building, Luke. The three live shows each week the luke q and a live chat the luke dissected which is going to be coming out uh there's a lot of variety a lot

for people to like luke uh and i think people should still be hitting us up at that email address morningcombat at gmail.com because we're trying to you know f around and get a triple double here on the wednesday and friday shows on what the format's going to look like. We're moving some things around. We're taking your ideas and your thoughts seriously as well. So it's an unfinished product, but what other show, Luke, is going to give you this type of content, right? Bang for your buck. Who's going to bang you like the guys at Morning Combat does?

BC, what is the homework assignment for this week? I don't think we ever decided that. Well, look, I think we settled in on the idea that it would be you pick one week, I pick another, and then the people pick. So one of our trusty producers, Mikey, I believe, is compiling some suggestions that the viewers have given, and this week will be a fan vote. So please check out the social media channels that

we just showed you on morning combat we're going to put the vote out to the people luke and hopefully on wednesday's show we'll be able to uh announce what your homework is for this week of course friday we'll break it down these are submitted by the people so this will be interesting yeah and don't forget the best place to get in dead wrong submissions fan art submissions questions for the show whatever morning combat at gmail.com it is ready and available and ready open for you guys all right well with that being said we have things to get to we appreciate everybody watching give the video a thumbs up hit that subscribe button for everyone at mulca and showtime and brian campbell he and i from cbs sports we will see you on Wednesday and until then may

all of your gains be loyal We'll be right back. We'll see you next time.