MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Fight Night Recap: Volkov-Rozenstruik | Haney Def Kambosos | Fulton Wins | Ep 308

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

On Episode 308 of MK, Luke and Brian return to recap a big weekend in combat sports. In the UFC, Alexander Volkov made short work of Jairzinho Rozenstruik. What's next for Volkov? Also, in boxing Devi...n Haney outclassed George Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion. What did Haney prove? Plus, Stephen Fulton Jr. impressed again with a dominant UD win over Danny Roman. (8:30) - Alexander Volkov (21:20) - Movsar Evloev (32:50) - Devin Haney (52:55) - Fulton Outclasses Roman (60:00) - Everything Else from the Weekend (69:30) - Dm's from Donks Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Introducing the new McSpicy from McDonald's. It looks like a regular chicken sandwich, but it's actually a spicy chicken sandwich. McSpicy. Consider yourself warned. Limited time only at participating McDonald's in Canada. Reveille, reveille, dogs. Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life. This is our passion.
Starting point is 00:00:27 That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. It is a marvelous Monday right here, June 6th, 2022. Morning Combat is back in studio. Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell, we are the hosts of this program, and we are delighted to be back with you today.
Starting point is 00:00:51 BC, how was the drive-in? You know, you don't really know. Because I hear all the people in the back talking. Yeah, we're still putting, it's still a work in progress here, but I'm here, I'm happy, they want the bod, here's the hot rod, if you know what I mean. This one's iron, this one's steel. If this don't get rod, if you know what I mean. This one's iron. This one's steel.
Starting point is 00:01:06 If this don't get you, this one will. All right. Luke, we are back here because this is where we belong. This is where the show should be. The show over Zoom is not really MK. Yeah. This is MK. Remember when Happy Gilmore was like, go back to your home.
Starting point is 00:01:19 You know what I mean? Like, this is it, dude. You know what I'm saying? That movie's overrated. Super overrated. I don't think it is. It's a little overrated. I don't think it is. You know what I'm saying? That movie's overrated. Super overrated. I don't think it is. It's a little overrated. I don't think it is.
Starting point is 00:01:28 You know what's not overrated is all the stuff we're gonna get to today. So we've got, let's see, Volkov beating Rosenstreich, Stroke, whatever. We've got the Haney and Kambosis results. We've got some stuff from Showtime, Fulton and Roman.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Plus, have you seen this shit? Plus, DMs from Donks and a whole lot more. Plus an uncomfortable level of energy between us that can only be consummated right here on this desk. That's right. That's right. Angry sex, editorial-wise. Thumbs up on the video if you're watching on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Please hit subscribe. And if you are listening on podcasts, do us a solid. Give us a nice review there as well. BC, how was your weekend? Was it good? I was in Minneapolis for the show. That's right. You did.
Starting point is 00:02:03 You had to travel last week. I want to say this. I said it on Instagram. Who needs to hear this? I was in Minneapolis for the show. That's right. You did. You had to travel last week. I want to say this. I said it on Instagram. Who needs to hear this? Let's bring it right in here. Dear the sport of boxing, we love certain arenas for the history, for the feeling, MSG, the Punchbowl in Carson. I need to enter the armory in Minneapolis in that discussion.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Luke Thomas, I don't know if you care about this. I do care about this, actually. But you go to enough fights in Vegas, unfortunately, like sometimes it can, because it's not always a boxing crowd in Vegas. It's a casino crowd, right?
Starting point is 00:02:33 Especially at T-Mobile. Right. So sometimes it can lose that real feel, but then, you know, you get something like when Terrence Crawford started doing those fights
Starting point is 00:02:40 in Omaha a few years ago and there's like real boxing fans there and, you know, Southern California has real fans. Brooklyn has real fans. There's pockets of that. Minneapolis, for some reason, has real-ass boxing fans.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And they like the taste of the weed, too, a lot, okay? A lot, Luke. And that's fine. And, you know, they drank a lot, and it's in this historic old-ass arena. The armory, well done, boxing. So let's keep going back there. I mean, that Cuban dude went to... David Morrell.
Starting point is 00:03:06 He went from Cuba to Minneapolis. I'm like, bro, that's a pretty big departure, but he seemed pretty happy with it. Yeah, yeah. My cab driver went from Ecuador to Minneapolis. Oh, is that right? What are you doing, bro? Some people love that out there in the Midwest. They look good on TV and obviously did a great job as well filling in for Jim Gray.
Starting point is 00:03:22 So we'll talk about all of that as well. BC, I had to give a quick update before we get to our topics for today. I saw Top Gun. You know, there were a lot of people tweeting at me going, do you think Luke had day sex after Top Gun? Because it's like the movie would just like, you know, it would be like right into the middle of your relationship. Movie didn't do that for me. I can be very clear about that. But I will say this.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Like Spanish Fly. That's what it would have been. Spanish Fly, no. The movie is fucking tremendous. Okay, okay. If you've not seen it, I don't know what you're doing. I'm going to assume you're saying special effects, in arena, you know, that shit. Manliness, coolness.
Starting point is 00:04:00 But is it a better story than the first one, too? No, it's not a better story than the first one, but there's like clear, it is designed, if you go in there to watch it, to pull you into the one from the 80s. It wants you to be inside of that movie the entire time, just in a more modern capacity. And the action scenes are fucking tremendous. Does Tom Cruise do any subtle recruiting to the Scientology at all? I don't think so. I didn't pick up on any of that. I got to say, for people who didn't grow up in the 80s, Tom Cruise, A, becoming an action star was kind of unfathomable.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And that he's become a lasting one is altogether even more shocking. Him and Robert Downey Jr. used to be very different people in the 1980s. Does he have, like, old man slash Stallone abs? So he's got, okay abs? There's one scene where they play this game of football on the beach. Of course, what's his name? Miles Teller or whatever the fuck. He's on all the sauce. He was excellent in Whiplash.
Starting point is 00:04:54 He was on all the sauce and he was jacked up. Cruise is at that last stage where he was constantly putting on t-shirts in this movie. They got him definitely trying to play the part, but they couldn't put the camera on him for too long. Otherwise, he'd be like, oh, yeah, you look old as fuck, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:09 So he was constantly putting on T-shirts. I'm just going to say this. Ghosty in the theaters. The movie is fucking awesome. It's a lot of jingoistic bullshit, but it's a really good film. The missus, she liked? She loved it. She loved it.
Starting point is 00:05:20 All right. It was tremendous. All right. But we also had fights to get to from the weekend. So I want to remind folks, if you want to reach the show for anything, morningcombat at gmail.com is the place to be for that. And how about David Appleton at Friday's fan submissions? Normally on Wednesday, but Friday's.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Oh, my God. Dude, from France, that man. Wow. Bro, even Big E from WWE was shouting us out. How awesome is Big E from WWE? Love that guy. No, if he's watching, I said this on Twitter, folks are like, oh, you should get him on RSD, Room Service Diaries.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Yes, open invitation. I know he's obviously dealing with some other issues from an injury he had. Yes. Big E, we will put you on a plane. We will put you on that couch. And I don't care what it says, what seat you're sitting on that plane, you'll be in Delta 8. Row 8, that's where you'll be, okay? Right there with us.
Starting point is 00:06:01 That's right. So looking forward to that if it ever happens. I want to remind folks as well, let's see. We did the like. Oh, yes. So looking forward to that if it ever happens. I want to remind folks as well. Let's see. We did the like. Oh, yes. Showtime.com is the label that pays. You could have seen Brian on Showtime if you had had it.
Starting point is 00:06:11 If not, you can get it now. Showtime.com, 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can bounce. And then what else am I forgetting? I think that's it. Oh, you know who else said they would sit on that couch? You know who else said?
Starting point is 00:06:23 Well, Steven Jackson said that. I saw him in Minneapolis. Shout out. Okay. More Ronaldo said he would sit on that couch? You know who else said? Well, Steven Jackson said that. I saw him in Minneapolis. Shout out. Okay. More Ronaldo said he would sit on that couch. He doesn't sit on anybody's couch these days. He's a legend. He sits back on his own couch. That's right. Also, a reminder, morningcombat.store. I think BC has some merch on. You can go
Starting point is 00:06:37 and see all of our cool stuff out there as well. All right. BC, you ready? Yeah. I'm good. All right, let's get this party started if we can. Topic number one, we start with the UFC as we usually do. Alexander Volkov, frankly, made incredibly short work of Jairzinho Rosenstreich, did it in the first round. But here is my question for UBC to kick off today's show. It was an impressive win. It was a very quick win, and it was, we'll talk about the stoppage in just a second, but all things told, you
Starting point is 00:07:07 know, it was a dominant win for the most part. Did we learn anything new about either guy? Yeah, I think we came away learning some stuff about these guys. Here's what I learned from Alexander Volkov, that despite the speed and the ease at which it seemed he lost to Tom Asimov at a time that I was talking him up big, I think he's still kind of who I thought he was coming into that fight despite that loss. Of the elite guys, he seems to be
Starting point is 00:07:30 Luke on the bottom floor. He still hasn't done that thing that's going to say, okay, if he gets to the title shot, he could win it. But I think this was a big step back in the right direction, controlling distance, landing meaningful, powerful strikes, being a presence.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You're not going to take him down easy. I mean, I learned again that, you know, he still may end up always having trouble with the guys like Gon and the guys like Asmall. That just may be the deal. But he's still in that category. What we learned about Rosenstruik, and you can tell me if I'm being too harsh, is he's not in that category at all, Luke. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:08:02 In fact, in a lot of ways, he's going in the wrong direction in terms of not just the lack of adaptation to his game, and unfortunately this fight was so quick, it didn't really get to show us that, but part of the reason he didn't get to show us that is because he didn't try to show anything, Luke. He's just sort of waiting for that big opening and that big moment.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And sorry, on this level, that opening is not going to come. You have to find it. You have to create it. You've got to do something. He did nothing. And that's why when there's, you know, I thought you were going to come. You have to find it. You have to create it. You've got to do something. He did nothing. And that's why when there's, you know, I thought you were going to say, BC, what about the stoppage? Was it okay? Dude, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Yeah, it was okay. Because he wasn't doing anything regardless, you know, beyond that, Luke. This was a bit lifeless, would you say? A little bit lifeless. You know, it was exactly what we, sometimes we do these previews on Friday and, you know, there can be like a tenuous connection to how the fight went, for good reasons or bad. I thought our analysis on Friday, given how the fight went,
Starting point is 00:08:50 was like directly on point, which was, for Rosenstreich, he has got to have another gear if you want to beat elite opposition. All of these fighters sometimes talk about how well-rounded they are, and they're working on other parts of the game, and it's not like that's not relevant, but when you really get to the top of any division or top 10 of a division, frankly, even top 15, depending on the weight class, you have to be able to answer the question, what can you use to actually defeat elite opposition? What can you do to influence a
Starting point is 00:09:17 fight to defeat elite opposition, especially when your A game may not be relevant or taken away, or somehow is not the most forward part of your game that night. Dude, he went right back to what we said he was going to do, or we thought what he had been doing, I should say, which was just waiting for the counter-strike, waiting for the counter-strike, waiting. And yes, he had got a couple of shots off because it was pretty clear,
Starting point is 00:09:37 this might be one knock on Volkov, it was clear to me that Rosenstreich had a clear speed advantage, a good hand speed advantage, which makes sense if you want to have a counter striking game. But beyond the counter striking BC, what was there? Whatever has been there? This is my point. Yes, if you want to box with him and you are overly aggressive, he will probably put your lights out. He is capable of doing that. But for anything else, I don't know what he brings to the table for the elite heavyweights at all.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Who does he train by? I'm not even sure. I think he trains out of his home. Well, I think he know what he brings to the table for the elite heavyweights at all. Who is he trained by? I'm not even sure. I think he trains out of his home. Well, I think he's done some training in Florida. You know, without knowing even who trains him, it's hard to step in and say, well, maybe it's the training. Maybe you need a big change. He's also a little bit older.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I think we're at a point where you do need a big change because it is a trend now of stepping up to the highest level and losing it in ways that can't just be explained away like I did or tried to do with Volkov and saying, okay, that guy's just better than him or that's a bad style matchup than him. No, unless you're a washed former name going in the other direction, it seems, Luke, like you're going to have a chance to just out-chess Rosenstruck. I didn't like it. I didn't like anything I saw from that. So I don't know what that change is going to be for him, but he's going to need something because you're're gonna be gatekeeper going that way
Starting point is 00:10:46 very quickly if you can't figure this thing out. Well, I mean, again, some of these, it's interesting, like BKFC, we didn't talk about it on Friday, but they signed Jon Dodson, and one of the points I had made in thinking about it was that like BKFC hasn't signed a ton of guys, but they have been an interesting wrinkle in MMA free agency where Rosenstreich has lost,
Starting point is 00:11:04 what, three of his last four? I mean, four of his last, something like that. We'll look it up here in just a second. He might be a better fit for that, to be perfectly honest with you. Greg Hardy, by the way, is now going to take a boxing fight, so there's that as well. John Dodson just signed with the BKFC. That's what I just said.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Did you say John Dodson? Who are you, Luke Thomas? I was listening to the song in my head. It was fantastic. But also, one of the cooler males in middle America, Big Tuna, Ben Parrish. You know that guy from Bellator. He's making his pro boxing debut this weekend. Is he really?
Starting point is 00:11:34 I didn't know that. Okay, well, shouts to Big Tuna. But the point I'm trying to make is I think his game might be quite well suited for something like that. But against the elite MMA fighters of the present moment, there's just nothing else there. Now, the reason why I asked the question about Volkov, BC, which was, did we learn anything new? I'm not sure we learned anything new from him. That doesn't mean, though, that there's nothing to praise. Here's what I did want to say. He got run over by Tom Aspinall. He just got completely run over. Dude, to bounce back in this fight where he stayed busier, he defined the range, and then when
Starting point is 00:12:06 Rosenstruik was trying to get a little bit more active with it, he met the moment and really put it on him, pressing him against the fence and then firing a nice shot, closing the show. Dude, this was not just a good rebound performance. It was a reminder that the place he holds now in the heavyweight division, A, it can grow from here, but at a bare minimum, I think he'll hold it for quite some time. That's very fair to say. Whether you think he's the best of the second group or one of the lowest of the elite group, he's showing you that he can overlap in both and that he can bounce back with this type
Starting point is 00:12:34 of win. And to hear him even say afterwards, Luke, something they studied on the tape is that Rosenstruck can be very vulnerable when his back gets up to the cage and his defense tends to go away and it becomes more fight or flight and he panics a bit and lets go. And that's why when Volkov did get him backed up there after that big shot, he was going to do whatever it took to end up forcing that stoppage. And he did at the end of the day. But Luke, I still don't know how Volkov is going to close that gap to the super elites.
Starting point is 00:12:59 That is something, is there still time in your eyes when you look at his game? Is it something that, you know, it's better strategy if he's gonna be against somebody like Ghosn, for example, who has such a speed and advantage with being clever? How does he counteract that type of thing? The athleticism disadvantage is gonna hurt him a little bit. I don't think he's a bad athlete, but he is nowhere close. Not many of the guys are, frankly, to like Cyril Ghosn. Did you see the video I tweeted out where he was in that celebrity soccer match?
Starting point is 00:13:25 Yes. Ghosn? Dude, for a big-ass guy. You've seen the video of him dunking. We had him dunking on Have You Seen This Shit, yeah. So he was dunking, and then he was in the soccer match, and dude, he was nimble as shit in that. Like, I don't know who can compare with him athletically. So in that sense, and Aspinall, too, by the way, seems like he's a phenomenal athlete as well. So in that sense, I don't know if that bridge is really crossable. But 33 years old, Volkov, significantly improved, fantastic rebound. You know, how high can he climb?
Starting point is 00:13:49 You look at the rankings. You know, he's got some hammers in front of him. But here's where he stands at now. He's at seven. He'll probably jump maybe to six or something like that. Maybe if he stays in place because Rosenstreich was sitting at eight. I guess we'll have to see how it goes. But it's Aspinall.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Okay, that's out. There's Derek Lewis, which he did not seem interested in the rematch. They asked him about it afterwards. He was sitting at eight. I guess we'll have to see how it goes. But it's Aspinall. Okay, that's out. There's Derek Lewis, which he did not seem interested in the rematch. They asked him about it afterwards. He was like, eh. And we all know the story. Most amazing comeback by Derek Lewis, but Volkov was beating him for, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:15 14 minutes and 59 seconds, basically. Then you have Curtis Blades. We saw what happened there. A little closer, but there was a wrestling issue. But could there be a want or need for a rematch with Blades only because that fight was almost two fights in one? Blades controlled the early action and was great on the ground, but then he started to gas and Volkov came on. I'm not saying it's going to be high profile or anything, but would that make sense because that first fight was close?
Starting point is 00:14:38 I actually think this is a real interesting sweet spot in the top five. I'm going to read you three names to answer this question. I'm going to read you three names. These are ranked consecutively 4-3-2. Curtis Blades is four. Tai Tuivasa is three. Stipe Miocic is two. Now, Miocic can wrestle, but assuming he is, I'm not going to say washed, but let's say at the very end of his prime or really in the post-prime stage, you wonder what Volkov could do. And the Tai Tuivasa fight to me is winnable in either direction. He's sitting at three. So while I don't see a scenario where Volkov becomes champion or beats a guy like Gon, I do think there is a scenario where he could really make, you know, start banging on the door of the top three,
Starting point is 00:15:19 potentially even top two in this division, if he can get a couple of interesting wins. Or, to your point, if he can get a rematch with Curtis Blades, even though Blades was able to out-wrestle him, I do think there is reason to believe that the second fight could go differently. I agree with you on that. I don't, but I think you're overlooking bringing up Tuivasa's name. Isn't he linked to be fighting gone? Yes, but what I'm saying is they...
Starting point is 00:15:39 Even if he came off a loss, it wouldn't matter? Volkov is sitting at seven. True. Tuivasa is sitting at three. I was going to ask you... Because they meet in the middle a little bit. I was going to ask matter. Volkov is sitting at seven. True. Tuivasa's sitting at three. I was going to ask you... They meet in the middle a little bit. I was going to ask you for Volkov to make that leap. Okay, now he's at a
Starting point is 00:15:49 good place. But to get to a great place, who is the name or the type of name that you would need to see to further the idea, oh, I could see him contending for a title and actually having a shot. Blades. Blades would be that guy? Blades. Because Tuivasa and him were going to strike, and maybe the one with the first big shot
Starting point is 00:16:05 lands or whatever. Hey, Tui. Let's bang. Let's bang. Yo, it's hardy here. By the way, did you see episode one of season three of The Boys?
Starting point is 00:16:14 I haven't seen any of The Boys. Oh, my God. Season three, episode one. There's a lot of male dong in that show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's a scene in the episode.
Starting point is 00:16:23 You're really not talking me into it yet, Luke, okay? Yeah, but okay. It's like, yo, BC, there's hammers in the episode. You're really not talking me into it yet, Luke, okay? You're like, yo, BC, there's hammers in this show. You'd love it. Nope. It's like a locker room. I forgot, you didn't ask. Oh, yes, the Blades one. The Blades one, to me, would be the most interesting one
Starting point is 00:16:38 because the Tuivasa one, they could go back and forth. It's hard to say. You might favor one more than the other, but that's pretty winnable in either direction. Stipe with the wrestling, a little bit harder to say. He might fight Jon Jones, and who knows what happens after that. But the Blades one, Blades is also young. Blades is also going to be a contender for the long time. And Blades beat him previously with wrestling, which is still a much improved part of Volkov's game,
Starting point is 00:16:58 but still not necessarily as far as he can take it again. 33 years old, which is young, frankly, for heavyweight. I think that might be a fight you look... The Tui Vasta and the Blades fight. Those are the two ones that I might be looking at for him going forward, depending on what else happens in the future. No, I can agree with that. What I can agree with is... Remember the 90s movie Wild Things? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Dude, come on. That was Denise Richards in the prime. Yeah, but in... And by the way, I stand by that movie as being good. Not great, but it's good. It was good in the theater. Well, good for what? Good for a few things. Fucking seventh grade boners? Here's what's not good. It's not necessarily a left dive off the highway into the ditch on the level of Million Dollar Baby,
Starting point is 00:17:33 and I'll never forgive my dad for recommending the movie or Clint Eastwood. But, Luke, it does take a hard left turn when Kevin Bacon comes out of the shower and they show his dong. And it's like, you know, I used to think, okay, well, maybe that's like the entry fee we had to pay to get that other scene that we're talking about. Oh, I see. So in that regard, do you think that's a good trade-off? It's like, you can see Nev Campbell and Denise Richards in a threesome with this guy, or you could...
Starting point is 00:17:58 Yeah, but you have to look at the dick of Kevin Bacon. Yeah, I mean, you know, the thing is like that scene was so gratuitous and unnecessary. I wonder if like Bacon heard like they might be into it. He's like, oh, yeah, dude. What was thing is, like, that scene was so gratuitous and unnecessary. I wonder if, like, Bacon heard, like, they might be into it. He's like, oh, yeah, dude. What was the movie, Eastern Promises, where Viggo Mortensen has to fight for his life nude in the shower? Oh, I didn't see that. And I'm like, listen, this scene is already graphic enough. There's a scene like that in Borat with the fat guy on the bed.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Which one? I've seen Borat. Oh, where they wrestle naked? It's Unbelievable. I mean it is it is so far like left field over the fence Like do you remember what his t-shirt said at the professional wrestling event? No this assholes just for shitting. I Mean we've been in the studio five minutes and we're like dick and balls. All right Anything else to add on the UFC main event, about which direction it goes?
Starting point is 00:18:49 By the way, if I'm just speaking out loud, if we don't have to have that many UFC main events for fight nights, I'd be okay with that. If we don't have to have, wait, what? If we can have a contenders fight between two highly ranked people in another division other than, I just feel like these heavyweight fights, it's not that there's no value to them, but as headliners, they're not spent a lady.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You can't put a fight card out without heavyweight in co-main or the main event. It's team sometimes. I know, but don't you think that's a little much? I would have rather had Ige. I didn't hate this. Ige and. No, no, I was okay with this. Really?
Starting point is 00:19:27 I was okay with this. All right. All right, well, with that in mind, we transition now to the second topic. Let's talk about that co-main event. Let's talk about a real hammer. Yeah, dude, unbelievable performance by this guy. Movstar, again, I'm not sure how to pronounce his name, and I watched the fights on mute, so I don't know how they said it.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Evloev. Evloev. He basically had what I would argue was maybe the best performance of his entire career against Dan Ige. Wouldn't be a unanimous decision. He didn't put him away, and all of his fights have gone all the distance every time. But BC, you know the term. UBL, no, not Osama bin Laden. Upper bound limits.
Starting point is 00:19:59 After watching what he did. Let me Jim Gray you and tell you inappropriate in this time. He was like, my Glock's on it. What is the upper bound limit of Evloev? Let me Jim Gray you and tell you inappropriate in this time. He was like, my Glock's on it, on tank. What is the upper bound limit of Evloev? I asked you before this fight, will we end the fight? Will we come into MK on Monday and say, you know, let's add this guy to the Russian hammer list? And what that list basically is, is people born in Russia, usually Dagestan, or former Russian bordering countries that look to have next in this entire sport.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Luke, I didn't think, you know, knowing how good Ige is, even with the odds of what they were, I didn't think I'd be putting his name on the list. Dude, his name is not only on the list. I'm trying to figure out how close to Shavkat Rakhmanov this guy should be. You know, how close to all these other Russian hammers coming on that we love. He's from Kazakhstan, but okay. You get my point. Luke, he's coming on.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And I know you said, you know, I haven't watched all of his fights. It hasn't always looked like that. But how it looks right now, everything he throws and lands is hard. It's efficient. It's short. He's got a motor and a half. He's no joke on the ground. And to wrap it up in a bow,
Starting point is 00:21:06 he seems to have that backbone from that side of the world seems to produce in the fight game. I mean, he looks like he's a train coming on, and it was sad to see Ige take on so much damage when I know he didn't seem to have the firepower to do anything to have low life,
Starting point is 00:21:21 to dissuade him at all, Luke. The firepower may have been an issue, too, but I honestly thought the thing that stood out to me was you look at, like, when they had the tail of the tape, you can just see Evloev is just so incredibly in good shape. But honestly, the thing that this stood out to me was, dude, his fight IQ is super high. When you go back and you watch this fight, the thing that stood out to me was he never elected to fight on Ige's terms. When Ige would blitz or try to get into some kind of strike, yes, sometimes he had to roll and absorb it, but most of the time he was out of the way, out of the way, out of the
Starting point is 00:21:54 way, or out of the way then countering, or just finding Ige in between steps, in between punches and then getting underneath for a takedown. In other words, he initiated his offense on his terms, not on Ige's ever. And it must have been so frustrating for Ige because, yeah, he could land a little bit here, land a little bit there, but he couldn't put anything substantive. There was no two, three punch combinations that were ever available. Even the ones that landed were kind of deflected. And then on top of that, you know, yes, he could stop a couple of takedowns, but in the end, he's just so relentless.
Starting point is 00:22:25 His timing is so good, and his understanding of when to press the gas in the fight, when to hit the brakes, when to go for the takedown, when not, plus BC, when he gets you down there, his control from the back, his wrist control. He doesn't threaten a lot of submissions, but he just makes his opponent work on his terms. Everything is on his terms.
Starting point is 00:22:43 He is a brick house. Yeah, dude, he's a sensational athlete. He knows his way around the gym. Also, he's just got great genetics. I've worked out a lot in my life. I've never looked like that. Look, would you say the scary thing about Evloev and other guys
Starting point is 00:22:58 like him right now who seem to be coming on is it's not just the insane grappling ability and the pressure that they can put on in the gas tank that they have with that and that sort of exterior, but you can also see it coming from the internal toughness. But like, dude, the IQ, like you're saying, the idea to know how to, I mean, the idea to, they're going after the gas tank and the heart and will of their opponent.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yes. And they're doing it in such a calculated manner that I don't know where the hole is. That's what I'm saying. We're going to talk about Cambosis and his moin games, but there's a real big difference between the bullshit he was trying to pull on Saturday and what someone like Evloev does, which is, I mentioned it before, look at how Dan Ige, who, by the way, is a black belt in jiu-jitsu, highly experienced competitor,
Starting point is 00:23:49 right? You could say he's fallen short against the upper limits of that division, but against Gavin Tucker, who I take very seriously as an opponent, he dusted him off inside of a round. Like, he is a very good fighter. He had to constantly reinforce his own composure. He had to constantly find, you know, this
Starting point is 00:24:04 balance between urgency and composure because what ever love does is Again, I'm gonna only launch my offense on my terms never yours You can never kind of build on what you're trying to do and then on the ground you are always Playing catch-up with him. He is always one two steps defining What's next and you're just trying to cover the distance of what he has done just to keep up. Now, the big knock on him, and I think it's fair, he is not a devastating finisher. He has zero finishes in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:24:33 All of his fights have gone the distance, but... But don't you have zero fear because everything he throws is hard, heavy, and does damage? Look, I'm glad you brought this up. I have zero fear against guys maybe 7 to 10. I got to tell you, I think that might cost him down the line, and I don't know when,. I have zero fear against guys. Maybe seven to ten Okay, I gotta tell you I think that might cost him down the line and I don't know when and I don't know His style is set up to accumulate damage though. So that's maybe why I don't fear it his style I mean if like against Volkanovski that shit ain't gonna fly. It's not gonna fly. It's not gonna work at all
Starting point is 00:24:59 He is gonna take all that shit where you're defining the terms because against the beat to it won't happen But if he ever fought Zabit, I wouldn't fight at all. If Zabit ever stopped being a doctor and came back to fight. But against a guy like Volkanovski, who's going to make you react and make you think and then make you zag when you're supposed to zig, and he's going to take advantage of it. Evlo has very much of a weight style, weight, weight, weight, go. He's almost like a much more polished UL Romero a little bit. He's just a much more calculated, careful.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Romero didn't get in these wild exchanges all the time. As he developed as a striker, it was, I'm going to wait, block, block, roll, slip, blah, blah, blah. And now when I want to go, I'm going to go. Now, he would have these wild blitzes, which Evloev does not have. But the idea of taking my time, it's going to be on my terms, not on yours. We're not going to have these exchanges. He's got a lot of that. And I'm going to bring up the rankings here.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Tell me who you would favor against him, Evloev, in the 145-pound division. Oh, I love this game. All right. Now, granted, he is ranked in a different spot, but I'm going to read you the top seven. How about that? Actually, top eight. Fuck it. Let's do top ten because Ige was—
Starting point is 00:26:01 What we need is a hammer. Yeah, Ige— Do we have a hammer on set? We need to ring the bell. Yeah. Okay, so he beat Ige pretty clean What we need is a hammer. Yeah, Ige... And we have a hammer on set, because... We need to ring the bell. Yeah. Okay, so he beat Ige pretty cleanly. This is a phenomenal fight. I saw people suggesting this one should be next.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Bryce Mitchell. Wow, that is a great fight. Exactly, right? Now, here's the difference between them. Bryce Mitchell grabs the fight by the scruff of the neck. Yeah, I mean, he'll chew coffee grinds, Luke. We've seen that. We've seen footage of that.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Nah, it's not that big a deal. But what do you think? What's your gut tell you? If Evloev is as good as he appears to be in some of those other intangible categories, including IQ to adapt and, you know, ground game, obviously. But if the difference in them comes down to the damage that he can land, yeah, I'd pick him right now. Off that performance? Seriously, I would. I would. Give it to Chikadze. See, I would favor Ev right now. Off that performance, seriously, I would, I would.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Give it to Chikadze. See, I would favor Evloev more against Chikadze than I would against Mitchell. That's a better style matchup for him. Right, because one of the things that a guy like Evloev can do is catch a kick for a takedown, and kicking is a huge part of Chikadze's game. Then again, Bryce Mitchell has handled a couple guys
Starting point is 00:26:59 with more ease than you expected. And he's a better finisher as well. Sorry, Bryce. Seven, Josh Emmett. It's tough. It is tough, and I love Josh Emmett, but I'm taking that blow at this point. Okay, now here's where you start getting
Starting point is 00:27:13 to the real heavy hitters, at least metaphorically speaking. Six, Arnold Allen. Now, Arnold is very high fight IQ as well. He's taken almost no damage in his career. For some reason, I still need to see a little bit more from Arnold. Oh, you're hanging. He's been steady and solid.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And I know his last finish was real quick, right? His hooker. It was the kind of performance that he had been missing up to that point. So I do realize the momentum he's on. I don't know if he could beat Evloev. I don't know, Luke. Okay, five.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Korean zombie. I take Evloev over zombie because he can control him on the ground. Yeah, I would agree. Thank you. Oh, we got the hammer? We got the Russian hammer. We got the mallet.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Thank you, thank you. Okay. Yes. Four, Calvin Cater. Now that's an interesting one too. It's a very interesting one because Cater can really box. What's your gut tell you?
Starting point is 00:28:00 See, I don't, man, my gut's telling me to go to the Russian hammer, but eventually you don't know what you don't know. If you haven't, man, my gut's telling me to go to the Russian hammer, but, you know, eventually, like, you don't know what you don't know. If you haven't been there, you don't know. Is that the bridge? No. Dude. Okay, here's where we get real interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Three, Jair Rodriguez. See, here's the thing. This is not hard to pick. Rodriguez is such a phenomenal striker, but if Max can take him down and hold him, you have to imagine Evloev can do that. Two, Brian Ortega. Now that's a little bit dicey because Brian Ortega's got a hell of a ground game. Okay, but Brian Ortega needs to make a major change,
Starting point is 00:28:38 and that's his lust to get into you know, boxy matches that quickly turn into life and death brawls. Like, Luke, he's got to get off that shit. And while he was able to rescue his name against Volkanovski to a certain degree by the drama of his, like, out of nowhere submission threats, we haven't seen a, like, balanced, strong performance from him since the Korean zombie comeback fight where it was just dominant. But, like, he seemed to go away from that. And I know
Starting point is 00:29:05 that you can't fight like that against everybody. He had the distinct speed advantage against the Korean Zombie and that's a big part of why that looked like the masterpiece it was. But dude, when the... He's just... Dude, he's ready to get... He's ready to go all the way on the first date, Luke. Every moment of every fight. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:21 It probably is in reality as well because he's got a Derek Jeter-like run going. But my point is, Luke, that nobody loves Ortega more than me. Nobody loves to talk people into the idea that in any given matchup
Starting point is 00:29:34 this guy can beat anybody on any night. I mean, we've seen it. We've seen the flashes of brilliance. I think Ortega's a little smarter than you're giving him credit. No, he's very smart.
Starting point is 00:29:42 But he's too content to lean on his intangibles. He's too content to like, oh, I'm just going to go in there and have fun, but I'm not going to panic if I fall down because I know I can rescue myself. He leans on the ability to rescue, I think, far too easily.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Gives you a real appreciation for what Charles Oliveira has done with something of a similar game. Very true. So would you bang the hammer of love against Ortega? We're getting a little ahead of ourselves. I mean, he did look great, but Dan Ige is also, I mean, let's not bury this.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Bury this hammer up your ass. Dan Ige, as much as I love him, Luke, is showing a trend of his upper bound limits as well. Maybe, maybe. So is this a little bit of a fool's gold, or is this 16-0 Evloev ready to join that list that also has Islam Mahachev? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:25 The last two, of course, would be Holloway and Volkanovski. I would favor those two over him, but you get the idea. Like, you can at least imagine a world. All right, Zabit. And then there's Zabit, who's not even remotely relevant. By the way, Ilya Tseporio wanted him, by the way. Who wins? Zabit versus Evlov.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Oh, Evlov. Have you not been watching? Have you not been watching? Except for that one round against Cater, have you not been watching? Have you not been watching? Except for that one round against Cater, have you not been watching? Have you not been watching? Okay, well, with that out of the way, BC, let's move on now to topic number three. We'll talk about a little bit of boxing. We'll come back to the UFC card in a minute, but let's talk a little bit of boxing.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Topic number three, here we go. How about it, BC? Devin Haney outclassed George Kambosis. Yeah, I hate to say it. I told you so. Like, to the rest of the world. Not to you, Luke Thompson. BC is very upset at all the angry DMs he got,
Starting point is 00:31:09 so I'm going to let him have first word here, obviously. He becomes now the undisputed lightweight champion. I want to come back to the fact that there's, like, three fighters in the last year that have, like, gone undisputed. I don't think I've seen that in a while. But point being is this. Beyond capturing the belts, BC, what did Devin Haney prove with this performance? What do you show you?
Starting point is 00:31:28 He showed me that that the flashes of brilliance we've seen in this most recent run of really, you know pretty good names that he's beaten from Gamboa to to You know where he got rocked late against Linares and on and on through the the most recent victory against Diaz It showed me that all this stuff I talked on Friday's show about who I think Devin Haney really is at the end of the day. Did he have a little hiccup against Linares? Yes. Did they have things to question?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yes. But that skill is different, and it's potentially great. And I mean really great, which is why when we had that sort of debate Friday, I said, when you look at him, do you see a future Spencer Crawford? And I'm not saying this performance answered that question. I don't see that. It did not solidify it for a few reasons. But does it take you in that direction? It starts to take you in that direction because this is who he's supposed to be. And when the stage was the brightest flying to, I mean, he's 23 years old. And when you know a little bit more about his backstory, like he had the chance to go the Olympic route
Starting point is 00:32:25 and the amateur route, and instead his dad and him made the decision at age 17 to turn pro, only you can't get a license in the States at 17. So he went to Mexico and was fighting in Mexican bars basically and put together like a run of fights and got experience against all different styles
Starting point is 00:32:40 as a 17-year-old, look. Then they went shopping for a promoter and had everybody coming after them. So they've been very calculated to get to this point. And Luke, I know that I always say, let's not compare anyone to the real greats. Let's never compare someone to Floyd because Floyd is so different, so special.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yet, what am I doing? I'm going, Shakur Stevenson, if anyone looks like a pretty boy Floyd, it's him. There are some elements of Haney that are almost Floyd-like. And I think this, for me, who's been a big boaster of him despite some of his growing pains,
Starting point is 00:33:09 and no, he's not a big commercial asset, I get that. He is who he is, though. You know who he is? He's a great boxer. And at its core, I said coming in, and let's not forget, 23 years old, went to enemy territory,
Starting point is 00:33:19 40 plus thousand, booing the national anthem of his home country. The whole scenario with his dad flying down there last minute. Yet he went in there and he just seized those titles. And I do have a lot to say about Cambosis, but to just stay on the Haney side first, what did he show me? He's the undisputed lightweight champion of the world at 23.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And he's beaten good names to get to this point. And if none of that, all that pregame stuff was going to mess with him, and this was just a matchup of skill versus skill, not only did I like him, Luke, I liked him big. Now, I ended up predicting he would win eight rounds to four. It's funny that two of the three scorecards were that, even though none of us think it actually should have been eight rounds to four. I scored it 10 rounds to two watching it. You could have scored it 12-0 if you wanted to. He absolutely dominated this fight. And there were a lot of our hungry, aggressive Australian boxing fans that DM slid me hard with the cleats up,
Starting point is 00:34:10 saying, you know, I'm going to screenshot this. I'm going to remember this. You're all over, Haney. No, if all is even, and it turned out to be Saturday night when they touched gloves, and none of that stuff was an excuse or anything, dude, Haney is special. And it's going to be boring at times, because there's some Floyd
Starting point is 00:34:26 in him. His ability to move his head, to set up his offense, to work from distance, to have an educated but hard jab, and to not waste his right hand. I mean, is he as exciting as you would want to be? No. Did he dial in and go for the finish? Not really in this fight. It was about controlling the terms.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But Luke, that may be more who he is down the stretch, but that's not going to stop him from winning big fights. Will it stop him from certain commercial gain? Maybe. But that ability, whether he needs to if he's under pressure or whether he just wants to, to basically say, I'm going to outbox you from this distance and there's nothing you can do about it. Show me guys that can beat that. There's not a ton that can beat that, Luke. It was incredibly special. I mean, you're right. Like, there is I think a fair criticism of Devin Haney that he is going to be, how would you put it maybe,
Starting point is 00:35:12 opponent dependent given how exciting he will be. So, in this case, Haney was so far past Kambosis that Kambosis had Dude, Kambosis' offense barely fits into the picture of this fight. I got a lot to say about Kambosis that Kambosis had. Dude, Kambosis' offense barely fits into the picture of this fight. I got a lot to say about Kambosis. There's almost nothing to say about his offense because
Starting point is 00:35:32 it barely ever materialized. I think you picked up on something that we should just really harp on one more time. A 23-year-old kid flew all the way to Australia to fight the hometown guy who was coming off the most celebrated win maybe of the year in boxing, certainly his career, went into a stadium with 40,000 of his countrymen. There was all those Greek slash Aussie guys chanting in the corner like soccer hooligans. And he silenced all of them through 36 fucking minutes of boxing by being vastly better than George Kambosis. I was saying this like heading into the 12th.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I'm like, look man, after the 11th round, I was like, look, is it possible that Kambosis could pull a rabbit out of his hat in the 12th? Yes, it's possible. But skill for skill, these were not peers. Devin Haney was far superior. And to have that composure, because I was thinking about this,
Starting point is 00:36:22 is Kambosis the toughest fight that Devin Haney has had? No, it's not. It's not the toughest fight, but the circumstances tell you everything you need to know about his upside, the distance he's put himself
Starting point is 00:36:35 between himself and Kambosis. His craft. Yes, his craft. I want to say this, but the guts it took as a competitor. By the way, credit to Kambosis
Starting point is 00:36:43 for doing what he did, too. The guts of a 17-year-old going into Tijuana Bar as a boxing professional. Dude, major, major fucking cojones on that guy. And his composure when he's getting booed in the whole nine. Dude, he shut up. They were quiet as a fucking church mouse in that stadium. What do you, because I see a lot, but I may be overdoing it. We're going to find out.
Starting point is 00:37:01 What do you like about his game up to this point? Haney? Yeah. His jab was phenomenal. His jab was phenomenal. He buildsdoing it. We're going to find out. What do you like about his game up to this point? His jab was phenomenal. His jab was phenomenal. He builds behind it. Doesn't quite have the same might or gumption that Spence does. I do think that there's a big difference between
Starting point is 00:37:13 them. Not as offensively inclined as a Bud or a Spence to finish a guy when he has them. But he's got extremely high fight IQ. Again, the jab is phenomenal. He can build stuff behind it. And, dude, he was boxing literal circles
Starting point is 00:37:30 around him. Dude, his head movement is so, and he isn't wasted either. Some guys are just constantly moving, and that's their style. Think Dom Cruise in MMA or what have you. Although there's calculation between what Dom does. You get that. But, dude, his, I mean, he sees everything, and he's out of the way of it. So, again, this is a great, he sees everything and he's out of the way of it. So, again,
Starting point is 00:37:46 this is a great, it's an elite win given the stakes. But at the end of the day, I had questions and concerns. Of course, is Kambosis potentially an elite opponent or somebody who just, in the best case scenario, in his favor against Lopez, pulled the perfect upset and had to get off the canvas in round 10 to do that?
Starting point is 00:38:02 I think, Luke, this for Kambosis was, he was who I thought he was coming in. And I know that we overlooked him. Which is what? A good lightweight, but not much better? Which is a good lightweight who on given nights could give great lightweights some issue or beat them.
Starting point is 00:38:17 But he's not great. And it's not a knock against him. He's kind of overachieving to some degree. But I have a lot of issue with how he fought this fight. You know what he fought like, Luke? He fought like a guy with a guaranteed rematch in his back pocket, and that's essentially what he has. Look, let's not lie.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Like, he dominated the free agent market after the win over Lopez, meaning Cambosis. He had suitors everywhere. Him and Lou DiBella, they ended up going with ESPN and Bob Arum in top rank as their co-promoter. Then they used that to lure Haney to come over. But Cambosis had an automatic rematch that you normally only see for the champion
Starting point is 00:38:52 in situations where the champion's marketing size is so much larger compared to the opponent. Is the rematch clause automatic because he was a mandatory? What's the rule there in boxing where you have the A side automatically gets the rematch, sorry, the rule there in boxing where you have the A side automatically gets the rematch, sorry, the belt holder automatically has the rematch clause.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I don't know specifically what you're referencing. This was a situation, as far as my knowledge, where it was negotiated in, which is obviously smart to do. The problem with this is, there's a major problem. One, Kambosis fought like a guy who basically said, and he said this afterwards, when they asked about him losing, he's like, look, I had a game plan and I carried it out. And everything he talked about was, well, don't worry, though. I'm going to make the adjustments for the rematch.
Starting point is 00:39:29 He fought like a guy who came out there thinking and knowing I'm going to get two fights. So in fight one, let me try my best to beat him this way, which turned out to be boxing from a counterpuncher position. And if it doesn't work, don't worry about it. As long as I don't get knocked out, we'll just do the rematch. The problem, obviously, is that nobody wants to see the rematch, and nor should they after that type of performance.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I never saw Kambosis, although he did land single punches, had a few okay moments, but not only did he never put stuff with it to combine because he couldn't catch up to Haney, he never went for broke. And the reason why that, in the end, you can argue from a strategic standpoint.
Starting point is 00:40:05 If he realized he's going to lose it with plan A, is it better to not get knocked out if you're getting the rematch anyway, strategically? Is it better for him? I don't know. You could argue that. But it's not better for the commercial side of this or anyone's care level. And I think he screwed himself. What do I mean by this?
Starting point is 00:40:19 We had fears that Haney might secretly have a bad chin, right? It was that hook against Linares in rounds nine and ten that put Haney running around, you know, covering up, doing everything he could to avoid contact. But we never saw that again from Haney. The times that Devin Haney puts himself into trouble or near trouble is usually when he's up big in a fight and he gets very comfortable. Think when he put it on Linares for eight straight rounds. And, you know, Luke, when he's in control,
Starting point is 00:40:45 then sometimes the safety comes off and Devin Haney starts to let his hands go. And those are the moments when you can catch him with something. Kambosis never allowed himself to get to those moments, meaning he was almost too responsible defensively. He never went for broke and tried to lure Haney enough into a fight
Starting point is 00:41:01 when Luke, tell me if I'm wrong, in a skirmish is going to end up being Cambosis' best chance to take advantage or steal the fight, right? By wobbling Haney, by doing that. He's trying to counter with a guy who is light years ahead of him in terms of actual boxing craft,
Starting point is 00:41:16 speed, timing, you know, and to be a counter puncher against somebody that good. The angles he was using are ridiculous. And Haney was so great because once he realized that, oh, this guy's only going to counter me, that's part of why Haney didn't go,
Starting point is 00:41:28 Haney wasn't more offensive and more exciting. And again, I think that's just going to be who he is. If you come after him, he'll be exciting because he has to. But if you're not going to make him do that, he's just sort of like, yeah, man, I'll win here all day. And I'm fine with it. Kambosis never tried to make him do that, Luke. And I hope it wasn't just from the idea of,
Starting point is 00:41:44 okay, this one didn't go our way, but we'll do it again. Because seriously, nobody wants this fight. So even if they have to make it, you know, because it's a contractual thing, you know, then go ahead and make it. But there's not going to be, what do you tune it in for? How do you sell the rematch other than Kambosis can pull the cord, the rip cord on the contract?
Starting point is 00:42:04 Short of that, what on earth would be the sales? Real quickly, how did you score it in your mind? Ten rounds to two. That's how I had it. Dude, the four rounds for Cambosis, let's be very clear about that, that is fucking generous. That is very generous of scoring.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So when you lose ten rounds, and the two he scored, frankly, one of them to me was a bit of a pity round, but like, okay, either way, he got two rounds at least cleanly maybe let's say dude how the fuck do you sell that like he barely did anything in the two rounds and you know what i hate about it the most like how did he make his name he made his name by taking the fight to lopez yes going after lopez and learn him into a fight and taking
Starting point is 00:42:39 don't forget the whole drop lopez in the first fucking round yeah but i was gonna say before that drop he got his ass kicked by l Lopez in the first round until that drop. That's why that round was one of the best, one of the most wild rounds we've seen in years. Dude, he didn't go after it and try to seize it. Again, he played like somebody knowing he had a mulligan, knowing he had a second chance. He had an immunity idol, whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Only nobody's going to care now. I mean, if you're Bob Arum, and I did see there was a quote from Arum, I don't know the context of it, but he said, look, I'd love to match Haney in the future against Lomachenko. Of course, of course he would. We would love that. Luke, wouldn't it be great? We don't really know Lomachenko's current standing as it relates to the Ukraine conflict
Starting point is 00:43:18 and whether or not he's willing to go training and all that, although it seems like Usyk is going to enter camp for Joshua this summer. But if you can find a way as ESPN and top rank to say, okay, okay, if we still owe, we still owe Kambosis this rematch. But hey, Kambosis, will you take a little step aside money? Lomo, you ready? Because we can make Devin Haney potentially into the star that his ability screams he might have the potential to be.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Imagine him against Lomo on pay-per-view for all four belts. Like, that's what I want to see next. I don't think we need this. And I'm not saying the second fight couldn't be better and it couldn't be closer. Dude, if Kambosis goes for broke, he's got a shot to try to bring in the terms of the fight closer. What would have to be different the second time? For me, one of the big differences was there was a couple of very fleeting moments where you saw a little inkling of this, he has got to get Haney up on the ropes. If Haney has room to move, he can't win. He cannot win.
Starting point is 00:44:10 He has to corral this guy either into the corner or on the rope line and then press him there. Short of that, what would be the adjustment? I honestly don't even know at this point. And dude, I'm not mad at Campbell. It's like, he's fun, he's an opportunist, he worked hard to get to this point. I'm just, he didn't show who he was in this not mad at Campbell. He's fun. He's an opportunist. He worked hard to get to this point. He didn't show who he was in this first fight at all.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Don't you want to go out swinging? Don't you want to? You know what I'm saying? Well, it's easy for a consumer to say, but the thing that got me was when he missed weight initially on Friday. So then he makes it, and it wasn't that he was huge over. It was just.36 pounds, but rules are rules, so he had to make it. And then he made it.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And he claimed that the scale was off at the hotel. And then he says it's part of mind games. Well, what fucking game? Like, I saw all 12 rounds. I didn't see any fruit from that tree being planted. Like, he was too clever by half with this bullshit. Like, we were talking about, well, I'm going to play mind games with this guy. Dude, you missed weight.
Starting point is 00:45:01 There's no game here. You can lie to the crowd. You can say to whatever media will just repeat what you say. That's fine. But like the reality was not that he wasn't up to the task. Again, he beat Lopez fairly and he earned this opportunity. And by the way, should be credited with him as well. All that razzle dazzle stuff he talks, it is good for selling the fight. Yes. But at some point you have to be self-aware. Like that's not enough to beat Devin Haney. Even when he's flying all the way across the other side of the earth to come fight you,
Starting point is 00:45:30 at the end of the day, it's about skills. And dude, Devin Haney is better by a lot. So in the rematch, I think he would perform better because I think he's, you know, nothing else to lose. So he's got to be himself. I also think that could speed up his exit. If there's any hook about the second fight for me, it's going to be if Kambosis comes out and really tries to win it like he should, can Haney then stop him? Can Haney stay out of trouble and finish him? That'll be the hook and what to look for in the rematch. But man, it's tough because now I'm wondering,
Starting point is 00:45:58 were they going to screw Haney? I mean, you look at those scores, two judges, eight rounds to four. 116, 112. And here's the thing, It wasn't like the crowd was in that fight. So let's say, let's say Cambosis, you add on two rounds where he actually, where you legitimately could have said, oh yeah, those are his rounds. Like two more rounds. Only two more. You're telling me that would have been a draw? Like, are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, fuck off.
Starting point is 00:46:18 So that, so what? So we could have gone to that rematch like, oh, Dainey needs to get justice for his life. Like, this, these are some of those moments boxing, right? These are some of those moments where you're just like, I, Dainey needs to get justice for his life. Like, these are some of those moments, boxing, right? These are some of those moments where you're just like, I see you, I see you. Is the rematch, I know he has a rematch clause. Does the rematch call for the fight to also be in Australia?
Starting point is 00:46:35 I don't know the terms of the rematch clause. And again, I'm hoping that if you're Bob Arum and company and ESPN, you can try to find a way to say, okay, well, can we do it a little bit later? You know, can we push it off? Because you can't run that thing right back. In the end, they may have to. We saw Deontay Wilder go to court
Starting point is 00:46:50 to make sure he got that third Fury fight, right? He won the arbitration, yes. He got the fight. I mean, a deal is a deal. I have no issue with that. I have an issue with not putting your best foot forward the first time around and seemingly just going,
Starting point is 00:47:00 no, don't worry, mate. We'll see you at the rematch, you know? I think the Lopez fight, the Haney fights are really what you said. Now we have a much better sense of him, which is, do I put him on par with, I don't know how high Ryan Garcia is, to be candid with you, but he's certainly got a big name. You mean in terms of THC? No, in terms of, like, who are the better guys at 135.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I wouldn't put him at the very, very top of the list, I don't think, but I think you're right. If they don't take him seriously, he can absolutely beat them. Dude. But if they do take him seriously and Haney looked to be fucking dialed in, I'm not going to say it's hopeless, but it's an uphill climb. Haney and Ryan Garcia, by the way, fought four times the amateurs. They went two and two.
Starting point is 00:47:38 So they have like a legit history, and they both fight, or Haney used to fight for DAZN, so it seemed like it was a no-brainer matchup. They were never able to make it happen. I have a question for you, though. Yeah. We have witnessed in the last year, because I think Canelo fought Plant in what, like November, right?
Starting point is 00:47:51 So not 2022, but 2021. He unified 168. Then we had this one unifying lightweight. Then we had Jermell Charlo a week or two ago unifying. Dude, is it my imagination, or are guys going for it in boxing in ways they haven't gone for it in quite some time? I've been saying this. Have I been saying this on the air?
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yes, but now you have this proof. People are literally unifying titles in ways that you just don't see very often. The guys want the smoke in this new era. I don't know if it's a reaction, things are cyclical. Again, Floyd handled his business in a way that no one can ever equal. He was amazing at it in terms of matchmaking, making money, always having the advantage. And I think too many guys tried to like model that and do that. But like, you know, to be a legend and to be really great, you got to beat the best. The guys seem to want to beat the best now. So it was always hard in the four belt era, which people always
Starting point is 00:48:36 say, what does that mean, the four belt era? People will argue. Some people think the four belt era starts in like 1989 when the fourth belt was launched. but the fourth belt wasn't recognized for like a long ass time. Some people argue it wasn't really recognized until right around like 2004, 2005 or even later. So like a lot of boxing, it's all kind of how you look at it and a little bit bullshit. But to see this trend run right now where these fighters not only want to become undisputed, where they basically, they're not just like, oh, I want this money fight and this money fight.
Starting point is 00:49:04 They're like, I want the belts and what comes with that, the legitimacy, the critical respect. So to do that, I gotta fight everybody who is a champion. And it's obviously in this era of networks being so aligned with promotions, it's harder to do than ever before. Yet we're doing it. So some of that also, we have to shout out the alphabets,
Starting point is 00:49:22 the four sanctioning bodies who are hard to shout out because of some of their own sins or suspected sins. But yet at the same time, we didn't used to have four battle on the speed of champions because it's hard to do that. And the sanctioning bodies don't like to work together or wait. What if you're WBC and you're mandatories do? And why does that matter? Because every time you fight with that title, every time you fight with that title, you have to pay the WBC or the WBA to fight for it and represent it. It's a little ridiculous. But the whole point is that
Starting point is 00:49:49 now it seems like they're doing less of like, well, I'm going to strip you because you're taking that fight. We want you to fight this fight, you know? They're working together. So, dude, I think it kind of started with Usyk, right, in 2018. And then Crawford did it at 140. Eventually Taylor did it at 140. But in between you had a couple times on the women's side,
Starting point is 00:50:06 but more specifically, as you mentioned, you know, Jermell just did it, Canelo. Haney. Haney. I mean, it's, now Stephen Fulton Jr., who we're going to talk about in a second, wants the four belt. He wants the slow too, yep.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I love it because there's way too many titles in boxing. We've already established this. But the rare times that you don't have doubt, the rare times that it's one name, one face, one division, as Deontay Wilder used to say, like, yeah, that's when you can, it's easier to follow. You start to take it more seriously because there's not a lot of people claiming they're champions.
Starting point is 00:50:34 No, we got an undisputed champion. Yeah, this is what, dude, good things are happening in boxing right now. It's fucking awesome. I mean, damn. It really is quite exciting. All the MMA fans hating on it. It's like, dude, if you're an MMA fan and you don't like boxing, I'm not going to hear to tell you.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Like what you like, dislike what you dislike. But if you're going to say bad things about boxing, they better be truthful. They better be truthful. And the idea that right now things are shitty, either promotionally or from an athletic competition standpoint, is just so far removed from reality, I barely know what to say. All right, we move on. Topic number four, BC. You were there on Saturday night in Minneapolis. Stephen Fulton Jr., how about this guy? What a fucking marvel he is. Just, let's just say it out loud, he outclassed
Starting point is 00:51:15 Danny Ramon, and it wasn't especially close ever. Wide scores the whole way through. BC, I would love to get your take on this, but here's one thing I just want to say. I'm not going to say that Stephen Fulton Jr. did everything he wanted, but he basically did everything he wanted. Danny Roman, different than Kambosis. I actually thought he did try to go for it at times, but Fulton was just way too good. He made a very good, sometimes great fighter in Danny Roman,
Starting point is 00:51:43 a former unified champion just two years ago. He made him look average. I mean, I... Hopeless is what I felt. Fulton was the betting favorite. You were a little bit higher than I was on the idea that this could be one-sided. Like, look, we looked at this saying
Starting point is 00:51:56 this could be the fight of the year. Why? Because we saw Fulton and Angelo Leo early last year in a great war for the title. Then we saw him against Figueroa, which was my fight of the year. This was not a fight of the year. This was one-sided, and he made it look easy,
Starting point is 00:52:11 which means he's even better than we thought he was, Luke. Yes, he is. And, you know, we were starting to say, man, a couple too many wars in a row. Is he the affiliate fighter? Is he his own worst enemy? No, he's better than we thought he was, and he explained it to me in the post-fight interview.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Luke, do you remember how much Brandon Figueroa went to the body, and that was a big part of why that fight was so close? Yes. Danny Roman could not sniff his body. Nope. And Fulton did that obviously. I sniffed your body before. It smells like ax deodorant spray.
Starting point is 00:52:37 It smells like. I mean, Luke, his ability to hold that distance by being sharp with the right hand, by having an active jab, and most importantly, with the footwork. I mean, again, he made Danny Roman look slow. And, you know, this was a Danny Roman who, all year layoff, which was the longest of his career, like he knew about the reputation against him that he's a late starter. He came out hot and aggressive. But man, if Fulton can do that to elite level talent and do that, I mean, I'm not
Starting point is 00:53:03 saying it was easy. He worked his ass off. But to make it look that easy and to not take big damage in return, then he's someone really special. And we talked, you know, could he crack the pound for pound? This is funny. I asked him afterwards. He's about to. And he's like, oh, I already been in that. I don't care whose list you're talking about. And, you know, it's going to be hard to argue with performances like this.
Starting point is 00:53:20 He was in the fighter of the year discussion last year. Now we added this performance on top of it. You know that, of course, we want to talk about, you know, could next or how soon could we do this four belt against Murajan Akhmadali of the guy who beat Danny Roman by split decision two years ago. But do you know that Fulton not only wants that fight next, he wants a new way to move up and he wants to fight him after that. Like this guy, Stephen Fulton Jr., cool boy, Steph Scooter, he's got a million names
Starting point is 00:53:45 you can call him. Dude, he wants the smoke, but he actually looks to be good enough that don't sleep on this guy. My only criticism of him is that rat tail. I just don't quite understand,
Starting point is 00:53:56 but short of that, his boxing abilities. I was going to ask him about it during the interview. I didn't want to get in trouble or think I'm going in a weird direction, but it's a badass move.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Who can pull off a rat tail? Lucas Matisse pulled it off. Matisse, but when we were kids in the 1980s, kids had that all the time. There were lots of kids with rat tails. It's kind of a Hector Camacho type thing to have that, to get the curly rest. Yeah, but let me say this. Granted, different sport, but we started today's conversation talking about whether Rosenstruik has, and the UFC, has different ways to win.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Obviously, boxing is different, but this is the point I wanted to make. The reason why I was a little bit higher on Fulton Jr. than you were heading into this fight, although we both had the same pick, was that I did not think Roman could do what Figueroa did in terms of making the fight just as fucking brawl. And if Figueroa can't beat Fulton
Starting point is 00:54:40 at Figueroa's style of fighting, I didn't think Roman had much of a chance, and that's exactly how it played out. Yes, dude Fulton can fight you anywhere any style any stance Boots gets all the credit from Philly for being this like genius, but I'll say this I don't know if Fulton is the genius that that boots is maybe he might be by the way I'm just saying I don't know but I'll I know this for sure. He is either on par
Starting point is 00:55:06 or pretty close to it and battle-tested against guys who are proven champions. Fulton Jr. can win any number of different ways against any number of different fighters. That is scary for a guy this good.
Starting point is 00:55:20 This was a statement performance. So it wasn't just the ability to limit what Roman's doing. And Roman tried everything. Like, he tried to go to the body. He tried to be a one-punch counterpuncher just the ability to limit what Roman's doing. And Roman tried everything. Like, he tried to go to the body. He tried to be a one-punch counterpuncher. He tried to get off with his jab. None of it would work.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Did you notice, though, in the seventh round, Roman finally got inside for a little bit. So for like a minute and a half, you're like, okay, I'm going to give this round to Roman. He's, oh, wow, we're finally going to see this action fight we were promised. Dude, Fulton switches to southpaw and cracks him with a left hand. Just absolutely. Look at these guys up here, Luke. Look at this. Dude, you look so red on national television.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Yeah, that's because my skin is the color of red lobster. But that's great. But, you know, dude, I did pull off that tweed there. No, no, no. You looked good and the questions were great. You pulled it off quite smooth. I just thought, I was like, is he going to burst into a strawberry here in a minute? Like, wow, the Kool-Aid man lost weight and put on a suit, and now he's interviewing
Starting point is 00:56:06 fighters in the ring. I texted my wife a picture. I'm like, you know, your husband looks good. She's like, you look like you're gonna be a busboy at the local country club or something. I was like, you know. So I'm like, like Luke Thomas, even I can't win at it. Yes, no, you can't win. Well, who can win is full and home or away.
Starting point is 00:56:18 But you know, his ability to do that, and then he tried to get the finish. In round 11, he started coming on and walking him down. I don't know what else you could have asked for. It's going to be tough. No one finishes Danny Roman, but nobody beats up Danny Roman like that either. So the only question
Starting point is 00:56:30 I have about this is not how good he is. He is insanely good. How literally doable is the Akhmadaliyev fight? For folks who don't know, Marjan Akhmadaliyev is a fucking hammer as well.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I saw his fight. You can catch it on YouTube against Danny Roman over on DAZN. That was another fight of the year contender. That was a legit great fight. Akhmadaliyev can catch it on YouTube against Danny Roman over on DAZN. That was another fight of the year contender. That was a legit great fight. Akhmadaliyev can fight
Starting point is 00:56:48 his ass off. What do you think? I think Fulton will be favored. I think Fulton is more doable. How doable? That's the key question is can you make this fight?
Starting point is 00:56:55 Currently, Akhmadaliyev fights on DAZN. He's got a fight coming up against Ronnie Rios, which is a decent defense of his titles. But, Luke, if you're going to have
Starting point is 00:57:04 a chance at Undisputed, this fight's not going to be big enough for a pay-per-view or a two-network. It's not possible. Can they work out a deal for him to fight on this network, given the four belt? I think it's possible. And talking to Steven Espinosa like you and I have on camera or whatever, he has never backed away when it's brought up of the idea of making this happen.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Showtime, as we know, has made a giant commitment to this division, and it's worked out, and we've got players, but to have an undisputed champion, you're going to need MJ, as they call him, Akhmad Aliyev. So I have confidence that they can make it. Now, would that be next? I'm not sure. I don't know how quickly. I don't know how that's going to work.
Starting point is 00:57:40 But conversations are going to have to be made, and to have this run and this chance at history, I think it would be worth it. I think just a year ago, I thought Ahmad Ali was unbeatable in this division and now I'm like, no, he's beatable. I don't know if he'll lose. I mean, he's a machine.
Starting point is 00:57:53 He can box, but he's just forward pressure. He's coming after you. Yeah, he's from what, Uzbekistan? Yeah. Yeah, well, that area, they produce the hammers. They produce the hammers. All right, BC, topic number five. We'll end with this. In the entirety of the combat sports weekend,
Starting point is 00:58:08 so that could be boxing, it could be UFC, it could be whatever you saw, who impressed you other than the names we've talked about today? It's not going to be a surprise, given my love for the 115-pound division in the UFC. Even on Instagram or just in general? In the women's side of things.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Seriously, Karolina Kovalevich, it was not only a job-saving win against a now-retiring Felice Harrigan, their rematch from their 2018 split decision,
Starting point is 00:58:32 but Luke, did you talk about a feel-good moment? That was feel-great to see the emotion on her because basically, here's where Karolina was at. She was losing
Starting point is 00:58:40 against good names, but then they were starting to add up, and then suddenly, you're on a five-fight losing streak. You're a name. Her performances before this one were just lifeless.
Starting point is 00:58:48 And all five were. It started with that brutal knockout loss she had against Andrade with the left hook, where you were just like, oh, wow. But what she started to realize was she believed there was more stuff left in her at 36. She believed that she was better than she was showing, but she knew she was going to have to shake things up. So she was the one who made the call to Joanna Young-Jacecheck, her former foe, and was like, how do I get into ATT? I need to get into this. Because previously, she'd been training with her husband and her sort of, you know, more of a local team and set up, not at super gym. But she left
Starting point is 00:59:19 her animals, her husband, and went to Florida, got into AT&T, sparring with Ioana regularly. She basically went all in on what's left of her. And I'm not going to act like sending Harrigan to retirement means she's ready for a title shot tomorrow, but there's a difference between being ready for a title shot and where we go, you know, sorry, you got to go. And if she had lost six in a row, you got to go. For her to do that and show you, Luke, that like there's something still there. I mean, there was the mean streak that they were talking about and the broadcast team, they were hammering that home. But, like, I also liked heavy, straight strikes on the ground.
Starting point is 00:59:52 She was so aggressive. You saw her twice go after the submission and eventually getting it. To see somebody kind of lose it all before your eyes but then not end up in BKFC and actually put it all back together to kind of see what's left. Like, it's inspiring at the end of the day.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I think we lose sight often in the sport. We talk about skills, how good is their jab and footwork and cardio and all this kind of stuff. But really what binds it all together is confidence. What kind of competitive confidence does this person, do they really believe? And when you get knocked out and stopped and choked and beaten, do you really believe you can beat other people anymore, other elite fighters. Do you really believe you can beat other people anymore? Other elite fighters?
Starting point is 01:00:28 Do you really believe you can do that? Like it's a very important question. If you don't believe it, it doesn't matter what skills you can produce in the training room, it all goes away on those nights. And for a while, it really did. For her to salvage this in the way that she did and get the finish on top, it wasn't like she eked out
Starting point is 01:00:41 some like, eh, you can kind of give her the nod. No, no, no, she finished her opponent. That was big. And I have to say, you know, certainly I've, you know, I don't think in one of you, J.J. and I are best friends, but I will really tip my hat. What a nod that is. What a teammate you have to be. Selfless in the way that she was to bring over Kovalkevic. And, you know, look, sometimes in life, sometimes there's no other way to get where you want to go except for someone giving you a hand. You need someone to pull you up off the floor. You cannot get off the canvas by yourself.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Dude, Ioana Jacek did that. She gave her a hand to pull her out of this, I don't know what you want to call it, this terrible place she was in. Similar to me pulling you out of Vox. I don't think that's the right analogy. I would actually look at it the other way. But the point I'm trying to make here is, BC, in all sincerity, don't you really, I kind of appreciate that. I appreciate it a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:31 I really appreciate it. That's a genuine, that's not a competitor thing. That's a human thing to do that. And I don't know Ioana as much as we play up this whole thing. But to see her being called a bully in the first Rose fight, to get the humility of losing her title by knockout, then losing the rematch. And then she's come around, and her and Rose are like this now. They've trained together a few times. So now to see you want to give the same edge to a former foe.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And they had a very good title fight that Carolina fought well in. But they are countrywomen at the same time. So to see that, you'd like to see somebody figure it out. And that was a good moment for Carolina. I don't know where she can go with this, how far she can take it, but you did get the feeling, Luke, that this wasn't just a feel-good story,
Starting point is 01:02:12 but that there's something in the tank, right? Yeah, title shot, I don't know. I don't know what that means. But yes, like, do I think that Felice Herrig is the only 115er that she can beat? Based on the way she looked, no. I think she could probably get some other good wins. Now, it's a tough division.
Starting point is 01:02:26 So, you know, could her next fight be a bad loss? Yes, and that wouldn't even be some kind of indictment. It could just be that's because you fight enough of these top 115ers, bad shit happens. But she's no longer just following her opponent around. That's right. And that's a big key right there. Quickly on Herrig, though, because she's not a—
Starting point is 01:02:41 Pop quiz, I called her pro debut. I saw you tweet that, and I was like, what? What was the situation? What's wrong? So she had done kickboxing, so she had had a decorated career in kickboxing prior to that, so this was her MMA debut, and I think it was like 2007 or 8 or 9.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I was calling fights for an organization called the UWC, basically in the campus of George Mason. It was the then Patriot Center, now Eagle Bank Arena. And she fought, I forget, oh, she fought a girl who was like, it was funny.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Herrig was brought in as like something of the B-side to the local angle. This woman who had been homeless and was living in a tent and blah, blah, blah. And by the way, they're just doing construction
Starting point is 01:03:22 here behind us. I don't know what the fuck is happening. Can we get a shot of these guys? And they're just like, hey, let's just get ladders out in the middle of these motherfuckers' points. Yeah, all right. Anyway, they're just doing construction here behind us. I don't know what the fuck is happening. Can we get a shot of these guys? And they're just like, hey, let's just get ladders out in the middle of these motherfuckers' points. Yeah, all right. Anyway, I was just trying to point out that I called her pro debut at MMA, which tells you I'm an old piece of shit. That was obvious before.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Did you say the promotion's name? It was called UWC, Ultimate Warrior Challenge. I think someone bought the rights to it because the guy who was running it passed away. Who, James Helwig, the Ultimate Warrior? Was he running it? That was his name, James Helwig? Yeah. The guy who stripped the ropes and shit? Yeah, running? That was his name, James Helwig? Yeah. The guy who stripped
Starting point is 01:03:45 the ropes and shit? Yeah, it was. So here's the thing. It's weird. Felice is not like... I mean, she's kind of a pioneer. I wouldn't call her a legend,
Starting point is 01:03:54 but she's been notable for a while. I mean, she's always been a tough out. And she was in phenomenal condition for this fight. And to hear her own sob story in a good way,
Starting point is 01:04:02 I say sob because, you know, it was emotional of coming back from two ACL surgeries and being like, no, I want to end my career on my own terms knowing I gave my best effort. She came in in the shape that showed you she was going to give the best of what's left and she fought scrappy and hard. I mean, she fought off that first submission.
Starting point is 01:04:15 It was like life or death. Yeah. I mean, listen, not everyone's going to be champion. Not everyone's going to be in title fights. Not everyone's going to be in pay-per-view. She fought everybody from that era. That's right. But I believe Felice Herrig fought very tough
Starting point is 01:04:26 competition, had a lot of success, and had a very commendable career, and she should be quite proud of herself. By the way, we forget sometimes that Carolina once beat Rose in a number one title fight. That's a great win. Yeah. I don't know if those days are coming back. I think that has probably passed. But that she could recapture some potential lost glory, for sure.
Starting point is 01:04:42 To answer the question about who else impressed you, Jeff Molina impressed me a little bit. Had a good win over the guy, Zuma Gulovic, I can never pronounce his last name. That was pretty important. But did you see he wore, the reason I shot him out was one, did you see the tattoo of Columbia on his back?
Starting point is 01:04:55 I didn't see the Colombian tattoo. It's a little hard to see because it's the shape of Columbia. Most people don't know what the shape looks like. We're seeing the tats on the big screen here. Yeah, it's on his back, on his left shoulder blade. If anyone can pull it out, it's G't know what the shape looks like. We're seeing the tats on the big screen here. Yeah, it's on his back on his left shoulder blade. If anyone can pull it out, it's Gaff. He pulls it out anywhere.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Wait, him or Phil? It's on his back left shoulder blade, but the point I'm trying to make is it was hard to see because if you look at the Colombian flag, it's got three colors, but they're not evenly distributed. Right there, right there. Yes, right there. But you can see he's got mostly blue there, but the reality is the Colombian flag is mostly yellow,
Starting point is 01:05:28 so it's a little hard to see. But in any case, he wore pride colors, which is like if they want to wear them or they don't want to wear them, it doesn't matter to me. Like, you know, live your life. But he was like, oh, I'm going to wear the pride colors. And then he had all of these fucking troglodytes in his mentions tearing him up. So then at the post-fight press conference,
Starting point is 01:05:44 shouts to Jeff Molina, took them all to task. Oh, yeah. He's something to help. Only thing I would say to Jeff is, Jeff, phenomenal win, you're a great guy, but welcome to MMA. This is kind of what it is, bro. And by the way, I saw a lot of people being like, oh, it's MMA fans, they're so terrible. Well, listen,
Starting point is 01:05:57 I've interacted with a lot of MMA fans in person and they've never been that way. So, a couple of caveats. One, it's certainly not all of them. Two, it's mostly just the online brand of them. And three, I'll say this, BC, it ain't just the fans. It ain't just the fans. It's the fighters, sometimes the media, sometimes the promoters. Now, not all to the same extent.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Everyone's got a different kind of responsibility there, and not everyone is that way. But to just say, oh, all the toxic ideas and MMA come from a certain subset Of the online culture from the fan side. It's accurate, but it's it's in a sense that they're guilty of that But they're not the only ones we should be very very clear about study where they check the supporting Backgrounds of all the Jan Sixers that ramped the steps and like 68% had done MMA training. I just made that up. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:06:47 I'd believe it. I knew you were going to believe it. I'd believe it. I'd believe it. But in any case. For some reason, they all stopped after getting their white belt. Yeah, well, that happens.
Starting point is 01:06:56 But Shouse to Jeff Malina, solid win, and it takes a lot of courage to go against the fervor sometimes of the online communities wherever they may be. What do you think these two are doing? These motherfuckers are just playing charades back here. They're playing Dungeons and Dragons. It's great. Just fucking off on the job,
Starting point is 01:07:13 leaving ladders around. Are these the Hardy Boys? They're about to have a tables, what is it called? Tables, ladders, and chairs? TLC. They're about to have one of these TLC matches out here, these motherfuckers. Jesus Christ. That's it for the top five. Okay. There you go.
Starting point is 01:07:28 For more on MMA, can they watch Extra Credit or are we going to do that? Yeah, I'm going to do it tomorrow morning. I don't have time to do it today. Because you know a lot of people are going to be like, Luke, how could you talk about this weekend and not talk about which fight night? No, no. I'm going to get to Bo Nickel on the Extra Credit, and I'm going to talk about Boucher and some other stuff as well. So Extra Credit is going to come. Okay. But that's it for our top five, BC.
Starting point is 01:07:46 It is time for us to no longer answer each other's questions, but we'll probably do that too. It's time for us to answer y'all's. It's DMs from the diggity dogs. Yes. We've got mail. Viewers. Viewers. All right. From PunchDrunkPete.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Oh, shout out to, you know the darling of the YouTube message board, Nicola? Oh, you mean the comments? Yeah. Yes. She was from the UK or Scotland or the Wales. Scotland's in the UK, but okay. Yeah, one of those.
Starting point is 01:08:16 She wasn't doing well, but then we shouted her out, and she had some health setbacks, and she's on the comeback, so well done, MK viewer. Yes, very good. We got your back, okay. And also, if anyone knows about health setbacks, it's these on the comeback. So well done, MK viewer. We got your back. And also, if anyone knows about health setbacks, it's these two washed pieces of shit talking to you right now. Much love to our very few female viewers. And here are some more producers just walking around with headsets.
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Starting point is 01:09:03 what are the top five biggest fights you could make in boxing right now and where would a Tank Davis versus Ryan Garcia fight rank on that list?
Starting point is 01:09:12 I think that is on that list. So we're talking about largely commercial but also like meaning at the same time. Yeah. When I think big,
Starting point is 01:09:18 I mean sales big, important fight. What I think the biggest fights you can make in the sport are, I still think if AJ beats Usyk, then AJ versus Fury in an English soccer stadium for all four heavyweight I think the biggest fights you can make in the sport are, I still think if AJ beats Usyk, then AJ versus Fury in an English soccer stadium for all four
Starting point is 01:09:28 heavyweight championship is the biggest you can make right now. Two, Spence versus Crawford for the welterweight title. Which, by the way, Mike Coppinger of ESPN reporting over the weekend that they're almost a done deal. Oh, that they're in discussions for October. That's right. No announcement of the network or anything like that. Fingers crossed. That'd be amazing.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And I don't, you know, could you create matchups that could potentially outsell that? Maybe, but that's huge. Canelo versus somebody, who should the somebody be? Is it Canelo versus Benavidez that would make this list in your eyes? No, that wouldn't be the biggest. Canelo versus Spencer, a catch weight?
Starting point is 01:09:58 I mean, Triple G is big. Oh, you're right, Canelo, Triple G3 is gonna get a lot of attention. Who knows, it could be a great fight. But after that, I think it's the light... Jig ball butter bean. After that, would you say it's potentially really these big name lightweights right now? I mean, Boots versus Keith Thurman, Boots versus the winner of Spence, all that, yes.
Starting point is 01:10:18 But right now, in terms of like, I mean, if you can make... Right now, I think Gervonta Davis versus Ryan Garcia probably would get the most eyeballs on it, given their social media backgrounds, given that it's pretty much a guarantee somebody's going to get knocked out. But look at this division. Haney with all four belts. Lomachenko, the former champion, who's still at very high form. Gervonta, the big moneymaker of the group. Teofimo is trying to go to 140, but still around and lingering.
Starting point is 01:10:44 There are some combinations within that as well that I think do just as good, if not better. I mean, if tomorrow, Gervonta was fighting Lomachenko, belts or not, that might outsell all those because you're fighting the former Pomp for Pomp King, right? Yes. So any combination of those, I think, are in this. What are we missing, though? What else? So let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:11:00 When we say biggest sales, I also count the gate. Yes. If you did it in Ireland, how big is Taylor Serrano 2? Yeah, I think that's in discussion for this. I don't know if it's top five, but it feels top five bubble. I mean, it would feel even bigger there, and that's saying a lot because it was just in Madison Square Garden. If they put that in Kroger Park, that would do, and also Viewer ship would probably be very high for that That's a big one
Starting point is 01:11:28 Yeah, um Who am I missing here Jake Paul serious question Jake Paul Anderson Silva? How big is that? I think it's like a little bit to admit how big that is. It's probably no I What's the ceiling for pay-per-view buys on that in? This era six hundred thousand. Yeah, four to five, I think. Five? Okay, so that's the level I think it is, too. I don't think it's...
Starting point is 01:11:49 That's not small. I'm not saying that that's not significant. It is. I think it would beat Jake's other recent ones, right? I don't know what the Woodley ones did. I couldn't tell you. All right. Even though it worked for Showtime sometimes.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I don't know. But the answer, that guy Punch Drunk Pete is a real MK fan. Is he, yeah? And he loves boxing, too. Yeah, yeah. All right. From he loves boxing too. Yeah, yeah. Alright, from TVGC MMA.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Does Bill Haney, this is the father of Devin, relax support of allowing and pushing Devin to train with different coaches his whole career? Show what Tao lacks mentally with his dad and coach relationship? First of all, we got two boxing questions off the top. Our MMA fans are losing
Starting point is 01:12:24 their fucking minds right now but what do you think to some degree yes now you know Tao in that initial rise when he became champion did have Joey Gamache who's a trainer trains Adel Valin in the corner but then he suddenly wasn't there when he lost
Starting point is 01:12:39 to Cambosis and it was explained away that Tao was running out of money so they had to keep it dead. But in general, has Bill Haney gone out of his way to expose Devin to so many different things from turning pro in bars in Tijuana? Yes, they have Yoel Judah, the father of Zeb Judah, a trainer as the chief second. There has been a lot of exposure throughout the years. I mean, dude, Bill Haney's a smart guy.
Starting point is 01:13:03 And it was obviously kind of feel good to see him arriving at the airport and son and father reunited. And I know sometimes he can turn people off because he's trainer and manager and sometimes the mouthpiece for Devin, but he knows what he's doing. I find that boxing dads are- There's not that stability with Tao.
Starting point is 01:13:19 No, I find that boxing dads are much better at the early stage, early to middle stages of the career. It's when they get into trouble late. Yeah. That's when the dad connection becomes questionable. I mean, look, there's been some talk. I don't know if it's true, but, like, you know, did Sean Porter and his dad in the corner have a very rough relationship down the stretch? And did that retirement have anything to do with it? I mean, we've asked Sean about it, and he says no.
Starting point is 01:13:41 And I'm not saying I don't believe him, but it's always iffy when the son becomes a star, and then at some point the dad feels like he's losing the control he once had, or what have you, or the credit at times, you know? I mean, I don't know if you remember for the third Tarver fight, when Roy Jones brought his dad back into the corner. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Not only did it go disastrously, but Roy would say in an honest moment afterwards that he didn't want to win, and he purposely an honest moment afterwards that he didn't want to win and he purposely stopped trying to win because he didn't want his dad to get the credit because he knew his dad would take it steal it from me that's some effed up um yeah like you know Hallmark movies I don't think my dad would even show time yeah all right that's like yeah you in Vegas on TV tonight I need you to run me an errand I need you to check that property for me they haven't paid that's literally true I told my dad I was in Vegas on TV tonight? Yes, can you run me an errand? I need you to check that property for me.
Starting point is 01:14:25 They haven't paid rent in a while. That's literally true. I told my dad I was in Vegas for work when we were there for Canelo and he asked me to do errands for him for like real estate he wanted to do. Dude, you could really get his attention if you go fucking demand that money from those people, right?
Starting point is 01:14:36 Amazing. All right, from atdog.stone. That's a better question. All right, in the early days of MMA, were there any martial arts you guys were bummed to, I don't have my fucking glasses, bummed to discover weren't effective in combat and are there any martial arts you guys were bummed to I don't have my fucking glasses, bummed to discover weren't effective in combat, and are there any
Starting point is 01:14:47 martial arts you wish could somehow be effective just for the entertainment value they would bring to a fight? I will say this, the early UFCs would have guys, and they looked you know, if you didn't know their martial arts affiliation, we're talking like UFC single digits here, so like 2, 3, 4, 5, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:15:04 But there were guys who were like, oh, this is... Joe Son? Yeah, no, no, no. This is like Terry Smith and he's some fucking redneck from Manitoba. And he was like, his style was ninjutsu. And because, you know, the only thing you know is like a little kid. Let's see, in 1994, 1993, I was 13 or 14. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:20 No one knew shit about ninjutsu other than what you saw in the movies. That was the Joe Son situation. He wasn't ninjutsu, though. No, he was Joe Sando. He named it after himself. He was Joe Sando, that's right. He created his own. But I'm saying, like, I had watched, dude, I can't overstate this.
Starting point is 01:15:32 All the martial arts movies in the 80s all featured ninjas. Ninjas were, like, the thing, right? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the whole thing. So you're like, oh, wow, I guess ninjas look like rednecks down at the pool hall, but okay. You're talking about Harold Howard? No, he wasn't ninjitsu, he was something else. But he did fight in a wife beater. He did fight in a wife beater.
Starting point is 01:15:48 But I remember Pat Smith fought this guy who looked like some kind of, you know, January Sixer, and who claimed to be ninjitsu, and Pat Smith mounted him, but you know, like in the early days where you kind of found it accidentally, but then hammered him into unconsciousness with his elbows. I'm sure he got like an extra four shots before he was broken up too. And I was like, yeah, yeah. Big time McCarthy's just watching and being like, wow,
Starting point is 01:16:07 I guess I'm gonna witness the death because this was before the rules were what they were. Well, they tried to sell UFC's face as a death for a while. I remember thinking watching that, I was like, wow, dude, ninjas ain't shit. This is so disappointing.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Yeah. I was really hurt by that. I mean, it took karate a while to find its footing. Every kid took karate in the 80s. To find its footing as a legit lead art in mixed martial arts, correct? Yes. There actually was an early pioneer that no one ever talks about.
Starting point is 01:16:32 His name was Jeff Newton. He actually fought in the UFC a couple of times. He did a lot of karate. This was like in the UFC, like 40s and 50s, something like that. He actually brought in karate early and just never got really good with it. It wasn't until like the Machida guys came through. Wonder Boy. Wonder Boy, where you were like,
Starting point is 01:16:50 oh wow, these guys can actually do something with karate. And you know, judo's had up and down moments. Judo's had a mixed, you know. I mean, has anyone had better highlights than Carl Parisian's first three UFC fights in terms of just taking people by the Adam's apple and dragging them right the fuck down. Ronda had pretty.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yeah, I mean they were pretty incredible too. But there were other gold medalists who did like Hidehiko Yoshida was a gold medalist with 92 games and pride. He had some great moments but you know a lot of that was weird matchmaking. Makoto Takimoto was another gold medalist. Do you like that they're called players? Judo players? Judoka. They're not called judo players.
Starting point is 01:17:26 You can call them that as well, but they're called judoka. But that's weird, right? Well, no, that's what you call jujitsu guys. You can call them jujiteros, but they're really jujitsu players. There's something off about that. You don't play boxing. You can play jujitsu. All right, from NYSlyer91.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Does the UFC having a 42-year-old champion in Glover to share, I mean just assaulting him already, mean that they don't have the best 205ers in the world? Or, BC, is he actually that good even at his age? How would he do against the 205 champs in other MMA promotions? So the other ones would be, well, I guess that's a little bit disputed. That's off slash Corey Anderson. Corey Anderson.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Well, obviously he fought Corey and Corey beat him. Perhaps things would be different another go-round. Nemkov did not have a great showing against Anderson. Wait, you said he beat him? I thought it was a no contest. What are you talking about? No, no, no. Corey Anderson and Glover.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Oh, beating Glover. Okay, okay. What I'm saying is, would you favor Nemkov to beat Glover? I might. I might. Yeah, I mean, obviously you favor Nemkov to beat Glover? I might. I might. Yeah, I mean, obviously it comes down to style matchups and all of that. You know, Glover's in that fight and may end up winning it. You know what?
Starting point is 01:18:31 If Anderson takes him down, Glover's ground game is phenomenal. Glover could beat him. In some ways, this is a perfect Cinderella story, and it's getting that rightful attention, you know, second oldest champion ever. But in other ways, he never stopped being really good, Glover. He just had many peaks and valleys. In the area between post-John Jones and now, Luke, there hasn't been a disastrous standpoint.
Starting point is 01:18:55 There was that one specific run where you're like, is he on the way out? I mean, he got knocked out by Rumble. I mean, Rumble sent him to the bottom of the earth, Luke. Yeah, and then his teeth went flying. Yeah, so, but, you know, he... Damn, him to the bottom of the earth, Luke. Yeah, and then his teeth went flying. Yeah, so, but, you know, he, damn, I got a lot of respect
Starting point is 01:19:09 for Glover. Not just because he said, he christened that couch over here. He did christen that couch. Okay. Hey, by the way, people have suggested that moving forward
Starting point is 01:19:16 on Room Service Diaries to keep you off of that really tall chair. I like the chair more than that fucking couch. That couch is like the couch from Get, what's it called, Get Out?
Starting point is 01:19:25 Yeah. Where you just fall into the sunken place. What about the loose spring on that chair, though? That gives you a little how's your father if you sit on it wrong. Yeah, that is uncomfortable. I mean, the whole set's a disaster. It's basically a prostate exam, Luke, every third time you sit. It's like, we're going to host a podcast slash colonoscopy here today. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Any more of this bullshit? The point I'm saying about Glover is, you know, someone asked me this. Would 2015 DC, 2015 Jon Jones, would they beat 2022 Glover Teixeira? Yes, they would, wouldn't they? Yeah. Okay, here's a better one. Would 2015, I know they already fought back then. 2013 Vitor would beat him.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Maybe, maybe. But I'll say this, and I know they already fought and this guy won,itor would beat him. Maybe, maybe. But I'll say this, and I know they already fought and that this guy won, but I'm asking in a new way. Does 2015 Alexander Gustafson beat 2022 Glover Teixeira? So the Gustafson that...
Starting point is 01:20:18 Because he wasn't going back to his wrestling at that time. Like the Gustafson that fought Cormier to five beautiful rounds. Well, again, Gustafson already beat Glover over the course of four rounds. Right, but people don't talk about that fight enough. Here's what I'm trying to make. Glover has
Starting point is 01:20:29 gone back to his wrestling and his jiu-jitsu in a way that he didn't quite as much back then. Yeah. And I think it's elevated his performances. I think he's still favored 2015 Gustafson. But, dude, why don't you ever talk about how great that Gustafson-DC fight was? One of the best light heavyweight fights ever. I mean, I remember to find out how little DC was paid for it and, like, I mean, he put his life on the line for that. That shit was a great fight. One of the best light heavyweight fights ever. I mean, I remember, to find out how little DC was paid for it,
Starting point is 01:20:45 and like, I mean, he put his life on the line for that. That shit was a great fight. Dude, and that knee that Gustafson hit him with came that fucking close. Dude, DC's battle tested as shit. Super battle tested. I love that man.
Starting point is 01:20:56 No, seriously, like, and he's a great ambassador. Whether you like his announcing or not, like, he's a great ambassador. I like his commentary. I don't like the fact that he kind of stumps for UFC pay. He carries their water. Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 01:21:05 But, I mean, certainly as a competitor, it's impossible to have anything. Hey, at the end of the day, you have to carry some water for your bosses. I mean, I'm drinking water out of this CBS. Name the water. This CBS water bottle right here. Okay, that's what I'm drinking. I'll carry it for them, you know. All right, last question from Cha underscore Vita.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Worst name ever all right bc very simple your favorite movie soundtrack i know exactly the answer to this one all right i saw forrest gump first night first showing and then walked into the mall and bought the bought the soundtrack that's an incredible soundtrack just because of the the total volume you know set really aimed at at that late 60s rock. Do you know the Forrest Gump soundtrack? It's fantastic, Luke. Yep.
Starting point is 01:21:50 I've always had a favorite, two of them. On the rock side, one of my favorite movies, probably my second or first, is Beautiful Girls from 1996. You know that buddy movie, high school reunion movie? No, I don't watch bullshit. Timothy Hutton, you don't know that movie? Matt Dillon? It's an incredible movie. I can't believe you've never seen that. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:22:07 you've never seen any movie by Kurosawa, so you're much more specific. Okay, that's got a really good one. The other one, Luke, is in the hip-hop world. I know other people say Above the Rim, but Juice is the soundtrack, dude. Okay, both of those are the wrong answers. No, Juice is a phenomenal soundtrack, dude. That is really,
Starting point is 01:22:24 really good, okay? The answer is Judgment Night. The Judgment Night soundtrack, they took... Wait, what movie is Judgment Night? 1993. Dude, I saw that in the theater. That's Jeremy Pivens. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:33 And who was the bad guy in it? I think Ice-T was in the movie briefly. Dennis Larry was the bad guy. So this is 1993. You have to understand, at this time, this is extreme... Where's the 90s counterpoint? Can I fucking finish? This was extremely experimental.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Listen to these songs. Just Another Victim, who did it? House of Pain with Helmet. Track two, De La Soul and Teenage Fan Club. Run DMC with Living Color. Biohazard and Onyx. Ice Team did a song with Slayer called Disorder. Faith No More and Dinosaur Jr.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Sir Mix-a-Lot and Mudhoney, Cypress Hill and Sonic Youth. They took a big rock band and a big rap act, and they made them do songs together, and they put it all on the Judgment Night soundtrack. When this came out in 1993, this was completely unheard of, and it kind of heralded a little bit of nu metal, where they would sort of combine
Starting point is 01:23:18 the elements of rap and DJing with sort of heavy rock, but it showed, like, people always ask, like, why would you make this? But when I was a kid... Judgment Night has a soundtrack? Are you serious?
Starting point is 01:23:29 Judgment Night. You've never heard the Judgment Night soundtrack? It's one of the most innovative, interesting soundtracks of all time. I think that movie is one of those fun ones that slipped in the cracks
Starting point is 01:23:35 in the 90s that no one talks about anymore. No. But the point I wanted to make was, when you were a kid, if you grew up in the 80s and 90s like we did, roughly the same time,
Starting point is 01:23:42 the coolest motherfuckers you knew were either the hardcore, amazing rap guys, or like these awesome metal bands, or you know, hardcore rock bands. And they, before anyone ever did, the Judgment Night folks put them together to make a soundtrack, and some of the songs hit, some of them missed. But it was
Starting point is 01:23:56 so experimental, so out there, and a lot of it actually worked. That is your answer. Judgment Night, 1993. Suck a fucking dick. I don't think that's the right answer. Suck a fucking dick. Yeah, yeah. All right, BC, time for your bullshit. All right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Oh, how about this? Pearl Jam and Cypress Hill made a song called Real Thing. What else? Yeah, that's it. There's some other good ones. What I do, Luke, every Sunday is I scour the globe. Do you scour the globe? What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:24:24 The good, the bad, the ugly, the in-between from combat sports to beyond. By the way, the globe for the... Do you scour the globe? What does that mean? The good, the bad, the ugly, the in-between, from combat sports... By the way, the globe is actually just the physical representation of the Earth. When you say the globe, you don't actually mean the Earth. Actually, you're saying, I just took a map and I turned it.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Just want to point that out grammatically. Dude, you... Eat my balls. Eat my balls! Thank you to Gaff Pierre for corralling all this absolute bullshit. It's called Have You Seen This Shit? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Ow, ow. Luke, I want to do Hammer Home. How feel-great that Karolina Kovacevic victory was at UFC... Karolina? Karolina, yeah. Okay. UFC Fight Night in Vegas. Luke, let's listen to her response of getting the tap.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Carolina Kovalkevic submits Felice Herrig, first UFC finish for Poland's Kovalkevic. Wow. Holly, what a performance, right? Head drop, five straight coming in. I mean, I'm not here to clown her. I'm here to say, like, that's some, that's, well, let's just wait for that echo.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Thank you, Manish. Very well done. Luke, in all seriousness, like, that's like goosebumps right there. I mean, that's somebody who put everything they had into something. Yeah. Kind of like me, every show, every single show. I don't think that's you. But yeah, that's an incredible moment. That's real
Starting point is 01:25:48 human emotion and she couldn't contain it. Luke, let's watch how far the mouthpiece of Biggie Boy Jairzinho got sent flying by Volkov. Wow, dude. I think that's actually what made the ref stop it, Herb
Starting point is 01:26:03 stop it, because he's like, this dude's going to lose his teeth if I don't jump in. He also was just so wobbly. He was protesting the stoppage. Yeah. It was, in my judgment, I'll say this, a little, a little early, but not early in the sense of bad, early in the sense of, could he have maybe let him get sent to the land of wind and ghosts? He could have.
Starting point is 01:26:22 He could have, but he did him a favor. Yeah, please. let him get sent to the land of wind and ghosts? He could have. He could have, but he did him a favor. Please. Luke, light heavyweight Alonzo Mennefield had issues with Asghar Mazharov's record, so this one got a little violent. And look at the crucifix. Did you hear what he said about him? Yeah. Is this guy racist or something?
Starting point is 01:26:36 Because Mennefield was like, I just imagined that this guy thinks, and this was his words, that I'm a monkey. Yeah, he said he used that as motivation. I don't know if there's proof that this guy is a racist, but they clearly didn't like each other, and there was a lot of bad things going back and forth. But, dude, you've once told me it's white belt shit
Starting point is 01:26:51 to get crucifixed like this in the universe? No, no, no, no, no. No, it's a little more complex than that. Look at that man's chest. Look at this. Yeah, dude, he is fucking yoked. No, it's not quite as simple as that, because very good grapplers can get put there. It was a little bit more of a nuance about a particular situation.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Okay. Here's a bonus KO, Luke, from Combache Global, as Moses Diaz needed just six seconds to dispose of Carlos Cordoba Fonseca. Dude. Fonseca, by the way, great Colombian band. Like them a lot. Max Bretos on the call here, our good friend, Max Bretos. And, yeah, that was a nice KO.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Shout out Combate. Jab. Super wide jab. Boom! Good night. Wow. All right, let's do some Showtime Boxing from Minneapolis. Cool Boy Steph showing off the rat tail, as I mentioned.
Starting point is 01:27:40 A bold fashion choice. I mean, you bring the rat tail to the boxing ring, you bang. Dude, look at that fake. And he draws out the jab and then comes over with a left. He is a fucking genius. Yeah, yeah, he's pretty damn good. He's so clever. I like his swagger.
Starting point is 01:27:54 I like a big fan, big fan. Yes, he does give short answers to questions, though. Yeah, it catches me off guard, you know? I noticed that was the one. Not that you did poorly. You did great. But I noticed that there was like a, he'd be like, yeah, that was the one, not like he did poorly, he did great, but I noticed that there was like a, he'd be like,
Starting point is 01:28:06 yeah, that was the plan. And then there'd be like a two second pause as you like teed up the next one rather than a flow. But short of that, he's amazing. I like that he was like, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:14 I didn't know how I was going to fight. It was dependent upon how I woke up this morning. And as you can see, I woke up fucking great. I was like, whoo, whoo, whoo. I was like, yeah, yeah, you did. You did.
Starting point is 01:28:22 All right, Luke, in the co-main event, Cuba's David Morrell Jr., not living in Minneapolis, improved to 7-0 with six KOs. Luke, the crowd loves the shit out of this guy. Yeah. He's only 24 years old. He has the secondary WBA title at 168.
Starting point is 01:28:37 This was probably his best performance. I'm not saying the guy he beat, Hot Sauce Henderson, that you'll see a lot of him moving forward. But you know what? His manager and advisor is. Morel? Morel is. What about him?
Starting point is 01:28:50 Louis de Cubis Sr., who is a very decorated manager in boxing history. He told me after this fight in the ring, he goes, I've seen every Cuban boxer over the last 30 years. No one's as good as this guy. I'll say this for him. Now, that's a, dude, from that guy. Yeah. I know it's his guy. He's trying to hype him up. I understand. But to make that guy. I'll say this for him. Now, that's a, dude, from that guy, I know it's his guy. He's trying to hype him up. I understand. But to make that call.
Starting point is 01:29:09 I'll say this. Here's what I thought about him very quickly. Tell me what you thought. I thought his offense was super dynamic, and he was beating the shit out of this poor guy, this hot sauce. He did get touched up a little bit more than I would care for. I think he went for the KO in the first round. The question was, how much was he making himself vulnerable?
Starting point is 01:29:26 But still, he was impressive as shit. We talked about Haney versus Kambosis from Down Under. Luke, on this co-main event, 43-year-old Lucas Brown was a plus 1400 underdog. And he sent Junior Fogg down.
Starting point is 01:29:42 When they fall on their arm like that, you know what I mean? Like, that's such a bad—oh, he was— And by the way, a couple things. One, Eugene Behrman, the head of city kickboxing, was in Junior Fah's corner. You don't say. That could be coming up. Yeah, well, hold on. The reason I wanted to point this out was, dude, the ref didn't do him any favors here.
Starting point is 01:30:00 He gets knocked down the first time, and yes, he beat the count. But, for example, you go back to the rolly fight. Remember the ref made him walk, and it was only after he walked that he was still kind of stanky-legged, and he called it. Dude, junior fall was worse than that, and ref was like, fuck it, let's go back out. And sure enough, he gets fucking demolished. There you go.
Starting point is 01:30:17 I mean, his feet are hanging off the ring. I mean, this was not a great stoppage. Brown looks like he came straight from eating flesh before entering this fight. I was like, wow, they found orcs to fight now. Yeah, so as we mentioned, Luke, so much for the undefeated CKB aura. Oh, by the way, also. Because Coach Bearman in the corner of Junior Fah. Yeah, by the way, Junior Fah was a minus 1,500 favorite and gets dusted in the first round.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Plus 1,400 underdog was Brown. And there is Coach Eugene. Tough night for the Fahs, Luke. Also, Luke, real recognizing real in the ring. Oh, Volkanovski. Jason Maloney of the Maloney twins. He was in the co-main, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Yeah, he beat, what's his face? The Filipino guy. Aston Palikte, yes. And look, it looks good in that top. Yeah, he does, man. Shouts to Volkanovski. Speaking of Maloney, Luke, he delivered Aston Palikte on a one-way ticket to hell with this finish, Luke. Oh, yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:31:12 What a shot that was. And this dude beat the count, too, but well, sort of. Big win for Maloney, and he needed it. I don't know if we'll get to see it again here if you missed it the first time. By the way, can we talk about how ESPN, you were working, so you didn't get to appreciate it. And listen, some people like Joe Tessitore, some people don't. Some people like Timothy Bradley, some don't. I like Timothy Bradley,
Starting point is 01:31:31 I like Joe Tessitore. But you had that knockout with Junior Fah in the first round, and they just vamped for a motherfucking hour. Yeah, that happens. I was like, dude, stop! Did they show Kovalev sitting on the couch that time before the Canelo fight?
Starting point is 01:31:48 Remember when they were with the pillow and he's laying down? No, and they showed a bunch of hype packages so it wasn't just Bradley and Tessitore going on and on but I was like, I said this on Twitter and I believe it, if you have an hour of broadcast time to kill and I'm watching on ESPN+, give me the house feed. Because there were fights going
Starting point is 01:32:03 on in the background and they weren't even fucking showing them. We mentioned Bill Haney got that last-minute clearance on his visa to travel as the father, manager, trainer of Devin Haney. Here's footage of him arriving at the airport. That must have been a long-ass flight. I guess because they fought in Melbourne, so obviously it depends on where in Australia you go. But I'm told that there is a short enough flight where it can be 14 hours from California.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Okay. What's the longest flight you've ever been on? I haven't done that bad. I've done direct. Really, just direct from Hartford to L.A. would probably be the longest. The longest. My dad tells me as a kid I was on longer flights than this. But as an adult, the longest one I can remember is I flew from D.C. to Istanbul, and that was 12.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Dude, I was ready to hurt people by the time we fucking landed. Because then you have to get off, and then you have to go through customs, and then you have to get your bags, and then you have to go to the hotel. I drove to the airport with Jimmy Lennon Jr., the classy Hall of Famer, and he is, by the way. He's flying today to Japan for the Nonito Donair fight. And I was just talking to him. Wait, the fight's tomorrow morning?
Starting point is 01:33:12 Yeah. He's just going to go right to Japan like that? Yeah. He's a beast. He's a Hall of Famer. And, you know, I was like, look, you know what I mean? Does it wound you? Because I get off the plane in L.A. sometimes, and I'm wounded for a day and a half.
Starting point is 01:33:25 He's like, oh, yeah, it wounds you. Yeah. That's the price, okay? Bill Haney paid that price. Yeah, he did. And you saw what happened. Oh, by the way, did you hear in the corner when Mark Kriegel asked fucking Bill Haney?
Starting point is 01:33:38 No. Like, when he came here, I guess it was, like, second or third round, and I think Kambosis had just landed like maybe a decent punch or two. Like it was a little bit, like not the tide was turning
Starting point is 01:33:48 but it was looking a little bit better than it was because he was just getting his face jabbed off in the first and Mark Kriegel was like, all right,
Starting point is 01:33:53 let's go to the corner with Mark Kriegel who's there with Bill Haney and he was like, Bill, was it really worth the trip? It's like, motherfucker,
Starting point is 01:34:02 he just, like what? What kind of a question is that? Okay. Yeah. Luke, Ryan Garcia wanted to make sure that Gervonta was watching the fight. He tweeted at Gervonta, you watching this stuff? We fight.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Don't let it be like this. And as you can see, Gervonta with a very Luke Thomas-like response. I don't tell people to shut the fuck up. I only tell you to shut the fuck up. I don't tell, like, people on Twitter. Well, that's not true. Luke, bonus KO. Yes, you're right.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Some are saying the KO of the year. This was on DAZN from Cardiff, Wales. Joe Cordina captured his first world title. Dude, look at this shot. Sending Ogawa, I don't know the guy's first name, to weigh down under below Australia with that one. Luke. Do you rarely see high-level boxers get hit that clean?
Starting point is 01:34:45 Yes. After this fight, Shakur... I think it was Shakur said he would get on a plane tomorrow and fight this guy. Dude, look at Eddie Hearn. Eddie Hearn is not even
Starting point is 01:34:53 pretending to be like promoting both these boxers. I think we've got to watch out for Joe Cordino now. I think we do. Dude, that was an unbelievable shot. Let's see it one more time.
Starting point is 01:35:00 If you look at the odds ahead of time, it was actually pretty close. I think it was... Was this 130 pounds? I think it was, was this 130 pounds? I think it was Shakur Stevenson who was willing to fight this guy in England,
Starting point is 01:35:09 but I don't know if we're going to get to see it again. I'm hearing no communication from our team. Oh, here we go. Here we go, Luke. Just bombs on him.
Starting point is 01:35:16 You rarely see something like that at the high level. You know what that almost made me? Rock hard with emotion, which is a great transition here because we almost set a world record from the one championship card Friday morning, Luke. His name is Marcos Almeida.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Boshesha. And he got up off this. That's Boshesha? No, it's not Boshesha. It's Boshesha. Well, it's Budanga after this. Luke, this man has a phoner. Getting that stoppage
Starting point is 01:35:47 made this guy so excited, Luke. What the? I didn't even notice that. You are the most depraved. No, don't say you. Tell our audience. I mean,
Starting point is 01:35:55 I got this dropped to my DMs like 75 times. I don't think that's his dick and balls, first of all. I think it's just the shorts riding up. I don't know, Luke.
Starting point is 01:36:01 This guy is so happy. He has a cup on and look, he has like neoprene shorts. He threw that towel to cover it. They're like, cover that dick up. I mean, look at that. I don't know, Luke. He has a cup on, and look, he has neoprene shorts on. They threw that towel to cover it. They're like, cover that dick up. I don't think that's as... You can't camp out right here. You can't set a tent up like that right here.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Come on. I often wonder why my family just ignores me, and now I know, because look at me on a Monday morning. We're examining the dicks of athletes, and what could be worse? Wow. Speaking of who it does remind you of, right? of athletes and What could be what could be worse Wow? Speaking you know who doesn't remind you of right?
Starting point is 01:36:31 It's when it comes to combat sports Boners look it does remind you you know, okay. No this one was I was like I was like did Connor go to the the black draw tryout It's like why is it? why does he have a frozen steak in his dungarees? I mean, that thing was... That thing was... We laugh, but apparently phoners for fighters are a real thing. If you don't believe me, just ask heavyweight Chris Areola. Speaking of Areolas...
Starting point is 01:37:04 I honestly get a boner when I'm about to fight. It makes me feel... There's no better competition to me than boxing. He said he gets a... I like how he's talking about getting an erection next to a clearly prepubescent child to his left. Alright.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Speaking of... Chris, a la izquierda. If you want to hear more about Bo Wachinha's boner, you can check out Luke's extra credit, but I'll show you this boner from Bo Nickel with a beautiful finish in his MMA debut, although, Luke, it does look like he's fighting... Well, he fought the manager of Wawa.
Starting point is 01:37:37 I mean, let's be real about that. I'm not even sure. Like, what that guy's wearing, he might have been wearing that on the street corner, and they were like... We're going to talk about this on extra credit, but the reality of this is this. Dude, this is how...
Starting point is 01:37:49 I keep saying this to people. This is how regional MMA works. You had a guy... By the way, in the case of his opponent who had had some previous amateur experience, they were both 0-0 as pros. Was it clearly a mismatch? Dude, that looks like Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Starting point is 01:38:03 I mean, what are we doing here, bro? Hacksaw Jim nothing is more like it. I mean, the point I'm trying to make here is, but zero versus zero, guys, especially when there's a big imbalance in skills athletically, is super common. This is how the industry works. Everyone being like, that don't mean shit.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Yeah, it's his pro debut. What are you supposed to take from it? It's his pro debut. It doesn't mean a whole lot in the end. But was this matchmaking unethical? Only if the sport is. That's it. Which it? It's his pro debut. It doesn't mean a whole lot in the end. But was this matchmaking unethical? Only if the sport is. That's it. Which it might be, by the way.
Starting point is 01:38:28 You know what? CM Punk had to be tested a little bit better in his pro debut, right? Yeah, and what was that? That was a giant mistake. It was a giant mistake. Luke, all that hassle for the tassel, brother. All that hassle for the hoff? I'm going to drop out.
Starting point is 01:38:42 But these people enjoyed graduations, Luke. Check out this man. My boy fell off the stage at his graduation. You fucking dope. But he plays it off well. They should rescind your diploma if you do that. Watch how he plays it off, Luke. Oh, he twerked. Do you think it was planned? Do you think it was planned now that you
Starting point is 01:39:00 see that? Do I think it was planned? No, I think he's a dumbass. Alright, let's go on to the next graduate. He just seems stupid. Speaking of graduation dances, let's see this man celebrate himself. Now is that cool or is that lame, Luke? I mean, it's aggressive. I mean, if your degree is in like bedpan technology,
Starting point is 01:39:19 it's pretty lame. Oh, Luke, you know, we haven't had any elder abuse in a while, so let's check in on the... Yeah, dude, you've been sleeping on that. First, let's check out an old person win, because you say all I ever do is send old people to hell. How about this old guy win? Look at your dad at the reception, Luke. Wow.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Yo, my man can move. He's a better dancer than you and me combined. He kind of looks like your dad, doesn't he? No, my dad's not that mobile, although he's pretty mobile. Let's shout out this old lady on her 104th birthday? Second birthday? I don't know. Who's counting at this point?
Starting point is 01:39:48 102. Oh, the teeth. Oh, boy. She played it off well, though, Luke, right? Bro, 102? She's looking pretty good. I don't know how long. All right, let's see
Starting point is 01:39:56 old people getting hurt. Luke, you ever walk by a punch machine and think, you know, I'm an old guy, but I still got it, right? Power. Look at this fat. Power's the last thing to go, Luke,
Starting point is 01:40:04 I think is what they say. Dude, look at this fucking cow. We popped the boys in the room with that one, Luke. Wow. Dude, look at this fucking... Oh, God. Oh, bro. I don't know if this next one is legal, Luke,
Starting point is 01:40:22 or if this lady's old enough, but... And those, by the way, real quickly, before you show us, those are always the guys at, like, ballgames who talk the most shit to you. It's like, old man, I could end your life very quickly. Very. I could end your life just by dodging, like, whoop, and then you just fall and...
Starting point is 01:40:38 Yeah, I don't know what's going on here or if we can legally show this, but hopefully I can sneak it in. Luke, watch this white van closely and this lady. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, what the fuck? Yo, she walked it off, though. She did walk it off. Wow, right? I think that's why we can show it. Bro, that's the shittiest Uber I've ever seen. Yo, remember that time I tried to show that circus guy getting... Yeah, BC's like, I got this guy. He dies in this whole clip. Is that cool? I'm like, I don't think so. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:41:08 It's funny because it's true. Where in bumfuck North Florida is this, by the way? You know how you can tell it's somewhere in the shitty South? Because look, there's no sidewalks. Get them gains in Gainesville, right? There's just enough pavement for cars. The people who planned the city were like,
Starting point is 01:41:24 listen, we don't care if people walk anywhere. Alright, Luke, let's go get drunk. Let's do it. Let's check in on internet drinking legend Ronnie Deutsch, Luke. Here's his latest vid. Hero of men. Yes. What do they call these? Yards of beer?
Starting point is 01:41:39 Yes, that is a lot of beer. That's a shit ton of beer. He's a tall drink of water, this fella. Six foot five, Luke. Former D3 power forward, alright? So in other words, he's like okay at basketball? Dude, I don't know how he stays jacked. By YMCA standards? This guy's incredible. You gotta do the, you know, feel in the groove,
Starting point is 01:41:58 do the bull dance, you know? You know, this segment is not possible without white folks. Well, speaking of white folks, I was supposed to show the greatest video in the history of this segment, but apparently we don't have it. We'll get to that next week. But we do have this one, Luke. This brings new danger to shotgunning a beer.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Okay. You all piece of shit. I mean, get fucked. The commitment is admirable, right, Luke? It's not commitment. This guy's a stupid motherfucker. I mean, he's a UNC. Boy, go Duke. Fuck off.
Starting point is 01:42:28 You know where two things that don't go together well? St. Patrick's Day and Trust Falls. Dude. She's kind of thick, though. She's from South America? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. She just went south.
Starting point is 01:42:43 That is for sure. Wow. Look at them trying to set this up, Luke. The other end. Oh, boy. She just went south. That is for sure. Wow. Look at them trying to set this up, Luke. Oh, boy. Yo, that's... You know what? She's a little bit of a caboose. They weren't ready for that. They didn't know about that thickness. I knew about it. Luke, you know you've been called secretly the fun
Starting point is 01:42:59 police on this show, Luke. I don't care. Here's some great moments in fun police history. You would love this, Luke. This guy't care. Well, here's some great moments in fun police history. You would love this, Luke. This guy jumped the fence to propose to his girlfriend at Disney World. Yeah. But because it's on the stage
Starting point is 01:43:11 where the general public isn't allowed, this beefy fella was intercepted. Yeah, whose titties are bigger? I don't know. Now, Luke, since you hate public...
Starting point is 01:43:20 Yes. People who do this deserve to be beaten with batons. So you support this fun policeman? Oh, yeah, of course. Okay. Everyone going out there, people who, like, I've said this before,
Starting point is 01:43:30 if you go out and you, like, basically forcibly recruit other people to either participate in or admire your wedding proposal, you're the world's worst person and deserve to be sent to Guantanamo where you have forced rectal feedings. Fuck your life. Okay, wow, let's go back to this fun policeman. Apparently art is not recognized everywhere, even at the ball game, Luke, as they make this, it's just... Yes, sir, look at this, look at this old bastard.
Starting point is 01:43:59 A lot of people said this is Luke Thomas in 30 years when they sent this. 30 years? 30 minutes? I'll do that this weekend at the Nats game. Speaking of you and I, Luke, check out this reenactment of me every time I get you vaping on set. Get that shit off the camera. By the way, I haven't vaped on set in a while. Get that white trash shit off the camera. By the way, I haven't vaped on set in a while. Get that white trash shit off the camera. By the way, don't you love that our staff who set up our room service diary studios,
Starting point is 01:44:32 which is right there, they had the rolled up $100 bill in the ashtray on our first episode? I mean, with Glover. Was it a real $100 bill? It's there the whole time, yeah. No, it's a fake $100 bill, but rolled up like someone on the staff. Yeah, like they're trying to give... Like they're trying to do coke? Like they're giving MK that image, right? We're not that cool. Yeah, no, it's a fake $100 bill, but rolled up like someone on the staff. Yeah, like they're trying to do coke. Like they're giving MK that image, right?
Starting point is 01:44:47 We're not that cool. Yeah, not really. All right, Luke, you know that old saying, nobody puts BC in the corner. Let's see some dirty dancing done right from these drunk uncles. Look at this. Wow. What the fuck? This is a preview of Ashley from Malka's wedding.
Starting point is 01:45:03 That's coming up soon. That's vaguely racist of you. Oh, come on. Vaguely racist. It's not like, you know, White Hood, January 6th racist. Okay, well, that's a dirty dancing win, so all good things must be followed by a vicious fail. So let's go to this dance sequence, Luke.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Yo, yo, spike this bitch. Bah! Oh, God. What do they call that? The RKO or some shit? Yeah, she had the. Bah! Oh, God. What do they call that? The RKO or some shit? Yeah, she had the time of her life, Luke. That looks like Andras versus Nama Yunus. Wow, that's great.
Starting point is 01:45:31 That is so great. Woo! Hey, let's go for some food fun. Luke, would you shop at this grocery store if you and I both got divorced and moved in together? Okay, I'm not going to say if this is vaguely racist or not. I'm going to let the audience decide. I mean, look at the title. I have a if this is vaguely racist or not. I'm going to let the audience decide. I mean, look at the title.
Starting point is 01:45:47 I have a feeling it's vaguely racist. All right, I guess we could move on if that's the case. Luke, you tweeted this at me. I think you texted it at me, too. On the highway, after an accident, this 18-wheeler produced 15,000 pounds of the gross shit inside of hot dogs, which I can't tell if I'm, like,
Starting point is 01:46:04 if I'm,, if I'm like getting nervous that all that great waste just went to waste, Luke, or if my liver is folding back up invertedly. So yeah. I was like, there's a lot of sad beasties out there in the world today that are hot dog-less. What do you think that's made out of? I don't want to know.
Starting point is 01:46:17 That's one of those things I just don't want to know, you know? Just. Like we all like a good burger. Nobody wants to go to the, go to the, you know, slaughterhouse and watch it being made, right? You ever seen an animal slaughtered? No, and I don't want to. First time I had to butcher a deer, that was...
Starting point is 01:46:33 Oh, that's so gross. That was an interesting experience. Watching all their guts spill out. I think that's what made you so hard. And then we had to take the skin and peel the skin off piece by piece. For what? The army? No, just hunting. We killed a deer. We ate it. Dude, you are so much closer, identifiable with the MMA fan base than you realize.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Yeah, except I, you know, I read books and don't hate black people. Look, big week for gore violence. Let's bring that to have you seen this shit. This is in Yellowstone National Park. This boar going wild. Whoa! Wow. Yo, you know what? I've actually not been to Yellowstone, but my This boar going wild. Whoa! Wow.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Yo, you know what? I've actually not been to Yellowstone, but my dad's from Oklahoma, so I've driven by places where you can see bison in the wild. Yeah. Dude, in half of America, the thing that's separating you from the bison is merely a little fence which they can clear. So the real answer is, what separates you from the bison? It's supposed to be your discretion. You like you? Yeah. So the real answer is like what separates you from the bison. It's supposed to be your discretion And you know these yeah, yeah, yeah these
Starting point is 01:47:35 These special needs people here. No stop. It's a girl. She lived which is why we can show it I hope someone research that I will say that that Wow well don't fuck with the bison How does this don't fuck with the Bulls cuz you might not getred. You might get double gored like this mother effer, Luke. Check this shit out. Oh, no. Right up the... Oh! Good Lord. Looks like Lawrence Taylor on Joe Theismann.
Starting point is 01:47:54 You know, you want me to say I feel bad, but I actually feel good. You feel good, yeah. Well, that's some gore violence. How about some liquid violence, Luke? And this, children, is how I went blind at age 21. Oh, no. And this, children, is how I went blind at age 21. Oh no, this dumb fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Oh boy. That was the second time that happened to her that night, Luke. Was this your prom night? Only the first time she was drinking, though. That's not good. Okay. Let's go to some X-Games shit that'll kill you, Luke. Check out this half-pipe. I'm telling you, it's just all whites today. Let's go to some X-Games shit that'll kill you, Luke. Check out this half pipe. I'm telling you, it's just all whites today.
Starting point is 01:48:27 What's going on? We got the wrong order here. First let's check out- Ooh, shit. Attack of the soda bottle, man. Well, they put the Mentos in it and then it goes haywire. Wow. Soda will kill you. Wow, it's like a missile, dude.
Starting point is 01:48:41 All right, now it's time for some X-Games shit that'll kill you. This is my colon after I eat Taco Bell. If you buy the Groupon for the half pipe, you gotta make sure it's like a missile, dude. All right, now it's time for some X-game shit that'll kill you. This is my colon after I eat Taco Bell. If you buy the Groupon for the half pipe, you got to make sure it's not busy that day, Luke. You got to watch where you're going. Oh. Wow. Wait, wait, blow that up? Yo, Sports Broad just took that chick out.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Shit about glasses. What the fuck? Wait, that's a girl who hit her? Oh, wow. Dude, that looks like Terry Tate off his linebacker. Siobhan Kers, yeah, that's fantastic. Wow, that's unbelievable. Whoate off his linebacker. It's Javon Kirst. Yeah, that's fantastic. Wow, that's unbelievable. Who is that, Landon Collins?
Starting point is 01:49:07 What the fuck? Let's go to this other gnarly BMX accident that we've got here. Let's check this shit out. Oh, boy. This guy should not be on that bike. Yeah, you're about to eat it. Yeah, that's wild. No, watch out.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Nope, nope. And it keeps going. Oh, wow. Oh, that'll leave a, watch out, nope, nope. And it keeps going. Oh, wow. Oh, that'll leave a mark. Oh, my God, wow, that is, I'm still not sure we should have shown that. Let's keep it going, though. Dude, this is a very good edition of this.
Starting point is 01:49:35 I'm actually loving it. Let's go to the skateboard accident. All right, what do we got here? Oh, boy, sadly. Dude, all of these morons castrating themselves is just my favorite part of America. He went on to live alone the rest of his life in the coffin. All right, let's go to the bike ramp. Let's see if we can top that.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Let me guess, his balls? I'm sure we can. Here we go. By the way, this looks like South America. Yeah, probably is. Let's hit the slow-mo button. Look at this. Oh!
Starting point is 01:50:02 Now serving scorpion. Wow. Dude. Yo, so here's this trick. I'm going to hit this ramp, and then I'm going to break my fall with my face. And my sternum. For 25 yards.
Starting point is 01:50:15 I listen to the winds of change. Right? I like how his feet carry the bike forward as he lands. Watch his feet. Watch his feet. Watch his feet. They hold on, and they just keep the bike going. Wow. Let's go back to the skateboards.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Look, this is an aerial view of a fantastic accident. Oh, wrong one. Let's see what this brings us. Oh, wow. Are these the people that guard Emperor Palpatine? Yeah, pretty much. That is... What was the dude from Last Jedi?
Starting point is 01:50:48 What was his name? The one that they cut in half? I forgot. Who was the guy that... Snoke. Snoke. Yeah, this was like one of... New camera guy.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Yeah, new camera guy knows. He's like, he's a motherfucking Snoke bitch. All right, we haven't heard anything about a new camera guy, Rob. He was just doing construction in the middle of the... He definitely looks like a European midfielder. I was like, can we not do task rabbit fulfillment in the middle of our show, please?
Starting point is 01:51:12 Rob, are you Serbian by nature? No, I'm Italian. He's Italian? He looks like a Serbian midfielder, that's what I would say. That's not racist at all. I think it was... Yeah, that's a little racist.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Okay, sorry about that, Rob. All right, we got an aerial view of this next skateboarding action. This is a great look. You found some gems today. Yeah. Well, that's not an aerial. Goodbye, bitch. Oh, wow! Wow, yeah, that's a good one right there.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Tag, you're it! Tag, UFC TE. There it is, yep. No tagbacks. Wow, I already sprayed. Okay, I don't know what the next one is. Is it more crashing? Do we have the aerial view? No, we don't. We've seen this one. Okay, Luke, before they play this. I've seen this one. Probably because it was sent everywhere. I actually think this may be the greatest knockout in the history of Have You Seen This?
Starting point is 01:51:58 It's pretty good. Let's see it. Let's go to the videotape. It's pretty good. Bop, bop, bop. Oh. Oh, good lord. Right into the coffin, too. Perfect. So Emily Ducati had one like this. When you get them with a big shot and they don't fall, but then they kind of lean and stumble, and then they take one clean after that, those are usually, like, the worst knockouts.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Thank you to our very aggressive and, I wouldn't say talented, but really it's just a bunch of our P1 fans who have so much time on their hands that they fill my DMs with these great videos. Thank you, Jeremy Oakman and company. That's the show of the week, Luke. I'm going to say talented, but really it's just a bunch of our P1 fans who have so much time on their hands that they fill my DMs with these great videos. Thank you, Jeremy Oakman and company. That's the show of the week, Luke.
Starting point is 01:52:29 I hope you saw it. I hope you enjoyed it. But, Luke, we have, speaking of breakfast at Wimbledon, Tuesday morning, tomorrow morning, there's big-time championship boxing. Yes. 5 a.m. is the main card. It starts on ESPN+. So if you're a UFC fan, you should have it. It is between,
Starting point is 01:52:46 what's Inouye's first name? Niowa. Niowa, Inouye, and Nonito Donair. This is big. So in 2019, this was arguably the fight of the year. I think it won
Starting point is 01:52:54 the fight of the year for many of these folks. It was my fight of the year. And Donair broke Inouye's face early, but then Inouye scored a late stoppage in what was an absolutely
Starting point is 01:53:03 insane back and forth. Why does this fight matter, and why should folks pay attention? Okay, at its core, it matters because it's a unification bout at the 118-pound division. Bantamweight, two champions coming against each other. Why it matters even more, because they put on what Luke mentioned, was not only the fight of the year in 2019. I want to echo this, because people ask me all the time in my DMs, BC, give me 10 boxing fights to watch that'll make me a fan.
Starting point is 01:53:26 And I throw this fight into that list sometimes because it's that great the first time they met. And Luke, the reason why that first fight was such a great viewing experience is part of the storyline. Nonito Donair was kind of like... On the outs. We thought we'd seen the best of him. Future Hall of Famer, something like a three or four division champion.
Starting point is 01:53:43 But when he moved up to featherweight about six, seven years ago, and he fought all the best, he got knocked out a few times, Luke. And it was sort of like, okay, that's it. I never would have guessed he would move back down to weight classes. Did I spit in your eye?
Starting point is 01:53:55 No, I scratched it or something. It hurts. And that he would become relevant again. And now, what is he, 39? 39. He went in there against a guy who's in the top three. Some people, he's their problem for problem king,
Starting point is 01:54:05 and the monster Inoue, who blows people away, is just such a powerful and destructive force, broke that guy's face, then took everything Inoue had the rest of that fight. By the way, Inoue is known, known, excuse me, I'm sorry about my eye, but Inoue is known as an extremely dynamic puncher, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Heavy, heavy handed. He can do it all. Great boxer. I'm not saying that's all he is, but I'm saying his power is extraordinary. And so this rematch comes after Donair once again reinvented himself. Last year he was in the fighter of the year conversation because he had two big wins both by knockout to win a title and defend it. And this is must-see viewing.
Starting point is 01:54:41 So, I mean, if it's really good, I might as well just do like an MK instant analysis. You should. Listen, if it ends up being sucky, I mean, if it's really good, I might as well just do like an MK Instant Analysis. You should. Listen, if it ends up being sucky, I guess you could skip, but I honestly don't think it will be. I don't know how long
Starting point is 01:54:50 it will go. That's the part I can't quite figure out. When do you think the main event will be? About 7 a.m.? 7, 7.30, something like that.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Something like that. We're going to check that out. I have to get up early because of the movie. If you've got nothing to do tonight, and some of our P1s, they don't,
Starting point is 01:55:03 and I respect that. We're their people. Like Reggie the Cat, Reggie Jackson, he's weird, and everyone of our P1s, they don't. And I respect that. We're their people. Like, Reggie the Cat, Reggie Jackson, he's weird and everyone hates him in my house. But he picked me. I'm his person. Right? So, like, to some people out there, Luke, we're their person. We're their people.
Starting point is 01:55:16 Like, if they got close enough, they'd kill us. But for now, like, we're their people. So, I don't know why I was going in that direction. Yeah, I don't know either. But, yes, you should watch the fight. What I will tell you is You should watch the fight. Yeah Oh if you've got nothing to do tonight because we're your people watch the first fight go check it out search for it You're gonna love it. You can't be disappointed
Starting point is 01:55:33 You really can't just like us in the show Luke We're about to film right after these cameras turn off a lot of really good shit for the future Yeah, we have a lot of stuff going on and some special guests as well So yes should be a lot of fun maybe even a resume review people like that Thumbs up on the video if you're watching on YouTube, please subscribe if you haven't already listening on the podcast platform Of course give us a nice note. We're back on Wednesday. Shoot us an email for fan subs are dead wrong Morning combat at gmail.com as again as a reminder Showtime calm is the label that pays 30 days free trial if you want to try it
Starting point is 01:56:03 You can keep it if you like it If not, you can move on showtime calm is the place to do that dude days, free trial if you want to try it. You can keep it if you like it. If not, you can move on. Showtime.com is the place to do that. Oh, dude, in Top Gun, in the reboot, is there any mention of Val Kimler's character or is he in it
Starting point is 01:56:12 or what's the deal? I'll just say as a general answer to those three questions, yes. Did you watch the Val Kimler documentary? No. It is worth your time, dude. Basically, his entire life
Starting point is 01:56:24 as an actor... Dude, they literally took scenes from the original Top Gun and fed them into, like, not dream sequences, but, like, remembering sequences. Yeah, oh, so they did it right. So there's actually old footage in the new movie. Okay, Val Kilmer's documentary. Basically, he's been filming everywhere he's gone,
Starting point is 01:56:38 every movie set for his entire career. He's constantly filming all the time. And they put together a look at his career. And you forget how great of an actor he is, unless you're a super fan of him. It's like, oh shit, he was in that. When I think of him, I think of real genius, I think of Tombstone, those were the big ones, but obviously he's done a lot more and commercially had a huge run, but he's an artist, dude, he's a legit artist.
Starting point is 01:56:59 He's amazing. I'll just say this. And he's got a condition now that he doesn't make a lot of public appearances, because he had a stroke or something. Something like that. His role in this movie, I'll just put it as, you know, it's pretty limited. Because I don't think he can perform on the same level. There is ways that they explain that through the character.
Starting point is 01:57:16 I'll just leave it at that. But yes, top gun. Two thumbs up from this guy. What about the chick, Kelly McGillis? Is she still alive? You know, the romantic parts of the movie, they definitely go over them a million times. That to me was like the least interesting part of it. The first Top Gun, they had real chemistry.
Starting point is 01:57:32 They had that sexual tension. I didn't really feel it this time around. It felt like two old washed motherfuckers just trying to bump uglies, which is kind of like you and me, editorially speaking. But the movie itself, I just cannot say enough good things. It's such a fun movie. I'm gonna take my kids.
Starting point is 01:57:48 My kids, F-14 will love it? Yes, totally appropriate too. Okay. Especially if they've hit puberty and they're in their horn bowls. All right. I don't check their search history. All right, and as a reminder,
Starting point is 01:57:57 morningcombat.store for everything else. That is Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. Tons of stuff we're gonna be shooting today, that are gonna be coming out later. Be on the lookout for In A Way vs. Donair 2 tomorrow morning. We might have some coverage of it. Either way, we'll talk to you folks on Wednesday. Until then, that's Brian.
Starting point is 01:58:10 I'm Luke. May all of your gains be loyal.

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