MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Fight Night Sandhagen-Dillashaw Storylines | Canelo-Plant | McGregor | | Ep 182

Episode Date: July 21, 2021

On Episode 182 of MK, Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell look ahead to TJ Dillashaw's return from a two year suspension. What should we expect in his matchup vs. Cory Sandhagen? That isn't the only important fight on Saturday's UFC card, the guys also go through the biggest storylines of the rest of the card. Canelo Alvarez vs. Caleb Plant are closing in on finalizing a unification bout. Logan Paul may be fighting Anderson Silva!? What are the guys thoughts? The UFC came out and said that there is no way they would let Conor McGregor compete with pre existing injuries. Who is lying in this situation? Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit: store.sho.com   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat  To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oh, guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? That's right. It's Wednesday. It's the 21st of July in the year of our Lord 2021. And it is time, everybody, for morning combat. Hello, everyone. I am merely one half of your hosting duo.

My name is Luke Thomas, and my daughter is having a conniption fit about five feet outside of my door at this moment. You're going to hear her banging on it like someone trying to serve a summons to somebody who else is in debt. On the other side of the screen is the King of Connecticut, whose kids I don't think are banging down the door like someone trying to serve a summons. It's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian. Can you hear the melee outside my door? I can.

I can, Luke. And I'm strumming your pain with my fingers one time because I'm, you know, Mr. Mom, chauffeur, entertainment machine, cook, cleaner. I mean, what the hell do our wives do when we're traveling, Luke? It's seemingly everything, okay? So shout out to what you're juggling this week, as am I. But you know, Luke, I still was ready to come big time. You know, you're going to come on. I'm going to bring it on hump day here, okay? No J Wednesday, wheel of death, great stuff, fired up. Let's do this thing, Luke, okay? No J Wednesday. Wheel of Death. Great stuff.

Fired up. Let's do this thing, Luke, okay? Put on your game face. Let's bang. I'm actually ready. I'm ready to do this. I'm actually excited about the show today for a lot of reasons, not least of which is we're previewing the weekend's card for the UFC,

which is just a fight night card, not a pay-per-view, not a numbered event in the sense of UFC 260, whatever, just a fight night card. And, BC, you know as well as I do this card is awesome it's really really really good uh top to bottom so we'll talk about that we'll talk about maybe Logan Paul's next move Conor McGregor still out there making news we have some news in terms of a big pay-per-view on the boxing side of things and BC true or false there's a wheel of death today there's a last minute wheel of death because your boy was too busy dadding out to remember to put it together

so uh do i do my best work under pressure luke we're gonna find out as you get put in the vice grip of all things wod so i'm fired up for that look we have i normally don't peep the fan submissions every wednesday but our producer mikey uh revealed we have maybe an all-time great fan submission to reveal today from one brethren in Stockton, California. So I cannot believe the events that have happened, Luke. Hey, Web Scream, somebody's coming for your throne, brother. Okay? That's all I have to say about that.

All right, all right, all right. So standard disclaimers you can see by contacting the show, morningcombat.gmail.com. Not just for Wednesday's fan submissions, but Friday's Dead Wrong. What did we get wrong? You can tell us.

Just make sure you have documented proof. Email us, morningcombat.gmail.com. Make sure you're not an asshole and you can back it up. Yeah. I have so many people

who write me and be like, oh, you got this wrong. It'll be like something quite obviously correct that they just don't know or didn't realize or something. I've had a couple of people double down and they ended up being correct. But in general, people who

directly email me my dead wrongs, they get them wrong. So email the show. Probably a better chance of being right. Also, if you want to try Showtime, you certainly can. Showtime.com. You get a 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can go bounce. By the way, the ratings for the Charlo Castaño fight, very, very good for Showtime.

The best in, I think, 19 months for one of their boxing events. And we are, what, less than a week plus out from Pitbull-McKee. I'm sorry, you're going to need Showtime. So, Luke, are they still able to pound sand after 30 days if they didn't like it? You don't really say that much. They are. I don't think they're going to need to, but if that's an option that they want they can certainly have that but you're right bellator 263 easily one of the best fights on paper in bellator history folks

i've been covering bellator for a long before the people currently running it ever got there and i'm telling you this is one of the best fights that they've ever made why don't you just say it's the best fight ever i know you're quick to head to say it's not the biggest. No one's saying it's the biggest. There were commercially bigger fights. Why can't you just go on the record and say Pitbull-McKee is the best fight Bellator has ever put out there? It's got to happen. It's got to happen first.

I mean, what if the fight ends up sucking or it's an eye poke or something terrible happens? I'm not obviously wishing that. But I think what you're pointing out is it's got all the ingredients to be that and i certainly would agree that it does but you gotta let it play out just a little bit so we'll see how also uh be on the lookout as you know look we're live every monday wednesday friday but youtube.com slash morning combat you find out quickly that it's basically mk all day nearly every day not just luke's live chat tomorrow but i'm expected luke in the next 48 hours to have interviews with Aspen Ladd, TJ Dillashaw, Rachel Ostovich.

So a little bit of MK side business going here for your boy, BC. Happy to get these out to the world. Very good. I'll look forward to that. Dillashaw should be a fun interview. I'm looking forward to yours with that one. So be on the lookout for that as well. And we got merch. Morning Combat, for example, this is on store.

I don't even know if you can get this on store 2.0, which is a bit of a problem that we have two different stores, BC. here let me put this in this way so you can see it two stores and none of them sell this mug but it's a great mug but for now you can go to morningcombat.store you can get merch out there we appreciate everyone who's patience um hopefully now if you're the morningcombat.store one is where you can go if you're from norway or you know i've looked up data on like hey how many people in columbia watch this show you know what the answer is bc not even my in-laws the answer is nobody they had no support for the show from the place that i you know what we should do we should put my countries against your countries and find out who's who's repping

mk better all right i'll put Lithuania and the province of Quebec up there against India, Qatar, Armenia, Luke. Okay, I'll take all your nations down, bro. See, that's tough because some of those, yeah, you're right. Like, Colombia just kind of bailed on me, but Armenia might show up big in some of those numbers. We'll have to take a look, but in any event, so that's that. All right, I think we got all of the disclaimers out of the way. So BC,

why don't we kick things off here with topic number one. Let's start as we always do on Wednesday. Not so much with the X's and O's. We'll wait for Friday to do some of that, but let's talk some storylines. As I mentioned, UFC Fight Night Vegas, whatever number it is at this point, but the headlining card is going to be TJ Dillashaw returning after more than two years away against the rising sensation maybe your future number one contender if he wins this bout in Corey Sandhagen BC we'll start with you when you think about the relevant storylines I'm going to guess it's hard to not talk about why TJ Dillashaw was away for two years and what that means for this bout TJ Dillashaw was away for two years and what that means for this bout. TJ Dillashaw, without question, is the dominant storyline. Obviously tied in there hugely is the fact that it's basically a number one contender bout

and that this is like a pay-per-view quality level fight that's going to be a main event here on a seemingly random fight night, which, as you mentioned, Luke has a lot of good storylines and fights to itself. I mean, I looked at this card on Wikipedia and was like, your body is banging, baby. I love it when you flaunt it. Time to give it to daddy. Tell me, how do you want it, right? Well, you know how I want it. I want to find out if TJ Dillashaw still has it. And I do, you know, we tend to promote our brethren in this game, whether it's all the smoke or the great professional comedian, Brendan Schaub. What a very good food truck diaries with TJ Dillashaw

that's fresh and out there addressing, you know, the stigma of the USADA stain, the comeback and all that. And Luke, you know, one thing that TJ was really interested in making sure the public realizes is that they went back and tested all the samples for all of his previous fights. And it came up clean. Now, you know, that doesn't mean he was clean. You can take that for what it is in the history of drug testing. But here's a guy who has a lot to prove. And what I love about it, Luke, was he admitted to Brendan that, you know, he turned down potential softer combat fights.

He wanted the smoke. He wanted to make up for lost time. And, Luke, he's not young at all. Do you know his age offhand? What is he like, 35-ish? 35. He was 33 when he lost his title. 35.

I mean, he's not only 35 at a weight class where you don't age well, I mean, you know, at all, and a guy reliant upon speed and reaction time. So he's got a lot to prove. And, Luke, there's really, I mean, that's without question the dominant storyline here. Can TJ still be the same? Has he used those two years to improve? Is it possible to improve from that high level he was in knocking out Cody Garbrandt twice? And,

you know, I thought he got screwed on the cards against Dom Cruz in a close, great, you know, tactical, great fight. He was at a level where we were basically saying, is he the greatest Bantamweight of all time? I mean, he was really at that level. Can he return to that? It's not going to be easy. Coreyorry Sanhagen has every possible category to show you that this could be a tough night at the office. But Luke, I want to spin the storyline back on you and say

something that I really hadn't thought about that was a big talk on the shop sit-down, which was Sanhagen and Dillashaw are former sparring mates back in the day. How much do you think that potentially plays anything into the build to this one in terms of how confident they are in facing each other? Yeah, I've spoken to Corey about that a couple of times,

what he made about it, because initially, they were at different places in their career. TJ was a champion, obviously, a few years ago. And a few years ago, a guy like Corey, I think even as late as 2017, he was fighting in LFA or RFA, whichever version it was back then. So it took him some time to get up here. He's just, you know, obviously made a lot of the work in TJ's absence. So he has some pretty strong familiarity with him.

And I was asking him, like, you know, do you have any sort of hard feelings towards the guy? He didn't. I think the reason why Sandhagen likes the bout is because obviously TJ never lost his belt, man. Folks forget about that. No one took it from him except the UFC, but no fighter took it from him. No one beat the guy to become the man at this weight class. 125 but not 135 and so I think he feels like it's a little bit uncertain and out in the open there and plus like Dillashaw was kind of the gold standard a little bit not just because he was the champion but you could just look at the way in which he competed the intensity the preparation and frankly the advanced skill set that he had and I think Sandhagen has kind of always thought if everyone's going to crown this guy being sort of not unbeatable but you know this is the guy to beat at bantamweight maybe that's not the case now although we'll see

but it was certainly the case a little while ago and I feel like Sanhagen he didn't tell me this exactly BC but the feeling I got was like I want to prove that that is not the case that I that whatever you thought about him I'm already past that not that he's like falling off he actually thinks that Dillashaw is going to come back and look pretty good, just that he's going up against him. So it won't really matter that that's the feeling I've gotten from talking to him. Luke, given the age of Dillashaw and those questions that we need answered, you know, is he still elite? Is he potentially the same guy not on the stuff? How long has he been on the stuff? All that, all those questions that are in our mind entering this. entering this. How much do you think Dillashaw's game will have changed

given the two-year break and given the fact that he's got to be aware that he's 35, not that he's going to show up old overnight, but do you think he'll be more wrestling-dependent? Do you think he'll look to be more of a counter-slugger than quick Nat who's in and out jumping in there? It's a question of... So my storyline for this, bc i can answer your question this way my storyline for this fight is i think something that people don't really think about too

much which is we know i mean this show is living proof but we know bc that like mma and boxing are more intertwined now than ever in some ways promotionally you know clarissa shield's doing big things in pfl you got these weird crossover exhibition fights, and everything's kind of coming and going. But you're seeing a lot more cross-training. You're seeing a lot more boxing trainers in MMA, and you're seeing a lot more guys training with boxers. And there's also a lot more acceptance in boxing of MMA's place than there used to be. I'm telling you folks, if BC can back this up, 15 years ago, boxing was A, way more popular than MMA, and B, there still is going to be a rivalry BC for as long as these two sports are around, but it was a lot more hostile. There's a lot more distance between the sports. There was no community, so to speak, between them. That's not

the case anymore. Why do I bring that up? Because one of the reasons now that you're seeing a lot more positive attitudes about MMA on the boxing side, again, not that they're like, oh, we love MMA so much, but there's something a lot less negative than they used to be. It is because frankly, the game got a lot better. Dude, the striking used to be bad in MMA, or at least not very good. It's pretty good. Now it it's very different from, obviously, boxing stance and gloves and target areas and whatnot. But it's gotten way, way, way better. Dude, part of the reason why this fight to me is so interesting is that, man, this is like the— I mean, TJ's 35.

But in terms of the game that we think he's carrying and the game that we know Corey Sandhagen is carrying is this modern game of moving and feints and camouflage and just pinpoint accuracy and all the things that you know it to be. This was a match that was not even possible at 135, I don't know, six or seven years ago. You couldn't get two guys who were not title holders who could do the things that these two could do. And it's a testament to how far MMA has come.

It's a testament to the growth of Bantamweight. And it's a testament to these two individuals for being vanguards of this vast improvement in the striking arts of the mixed martial arts that we commonly know and understand. And I think we should not lose sight of how good we have it. Oh, yeah, and how great we have it that this got postponed and that this is you know the same weekend that was supposed to be fury wilder three now you don't get that but it's not much of a hiccup because this fight is i'm glad this fight gets the central attention luke because it deserves it so let me ask you this bc if sandhagen loses and i say that in a way

where let's say dillashaw wins convincingly, whatever that means. Does he deserve a title shot? I know it's crowded at the top, but what do you make of where he should go based on a victory? My personal stance is the winner of this fight should get the next title shot after they sort out the Jan-Aljo rematch. It was obviously a disappointing way that the title changed hands. We all kind of wish that the sport had some kind of alternate rules for that situation that wouldn't involve

or at least I do. I don't want to speak for everybody. At least I do, Luke. But we need that clarity. We need that closure of that series. But I think without question the winner here should get it. Because Sanhagen's already been deserving on the outside looking in. Yes, he lost to Aljo and that, you know, took a step back. But man, did he repair that

in such a powerful way. And Dillashaw's got the name, man. And to your point, no one, took a step back. But, man, did he repair that in such a powerful way. And Dillashaw's got the name, man. And to your point, no one took the belt from him. So I never thought Dillashaw should have parachuted back in coming off the suspension and get rewarded with a title shot. I hate that shit. I hate it when Lesnar walked in the cage and pushed DC that time and was going to get rewarded from his, you know, colossal steroid miss and get that.

But you go out there and beat Corey Sanhagen, dude, what else are you going to ask of TJ? miss and and get that but you go out there and be cory sandhagen dude what else you're gonna ask of tj yeah give him give him that title shot no question about it so i'm with you i thought a fight that made a little bit more sense would have been the fight against aldo but they didn't make it they made this one instead maybe this one's even better and i agree with you the winner of this one absolutely should get the winner of yon versus aldo especially if it's san hagen too you You know, if Sanhagen goes, I mean, Sanhagen just ran through Frankie Edgar in, what, 30 seconds in his last fight? Something insane.

I think if he does that again, then, or not, you know, obviously it doesn't have to beat him in 30 seconds, but if he does something kind of similarly impressive, I don't know how you can deny the guy. Any other storylines? This is a big boon. We don't talk enough about this is a big boon for this division, which was already

loaded, was already kind of, we considered it after lightweight, maybe the best division in the sport. Obviously, look, there's some featherweights great right now. Women's strawweight's always going to bang me, Luke. At least I hope it would. But this division now just gets a star and former champion in one of the all-time greats just dropped right back in the middle of the picture. So even if Dillashaw loses but looks good you're going to be able to make so many great fights off of this Luke what a what a embarrassment of riches the UFC has in in most of their divisions right now I mean you know look this look would you say these are the best of times I know we didn't plan this as some kind of alternate angle here but are these the best of times in MMA history

to be a fan right now it's a pretty fucking good time man it's a pretty good time I mean you have to understand there was a long time where the UFC was doing really well and hot and had exploded certainly after the ultimate fighter but it was still something of a try hard league where they didn't have good sponsors they had you know Mickey's get stung and you know the the celebs that would show up you know even back then you know credit to Shaq Shaq's been ahead of the curve Shabs that would show up you know even back then you know credit to Shaq Shaq's been ahead of the curve Shaq I think showed up to like one of the UFC 40s or something something a long time ago um but you know a lot of times it's like hey Antonio Sabato Jr. is tweeting about it and now it's like you know if you're a fan you became a fan the last

couple of years you have no idea what it used to be and so uh yes i agree that like between how much more commercially viable it is bc and to my previous point how the game is just continuing to get better and better there's content every week dude it's like it feels like it's a phenomenal time it feels like there's more dynamic potential champion fighters than ever before right if you like yeah it just feels like there are just people coming out of the woodwork that are ready to compete and you're like holy shit like every single week then you mix that with you know we all know we could live and die alone on UFC and MMA and more or less be filled but you know then you got the PFL playoffs coming up then

you got Belter with the biggest fight ever I don't even know what's going on in one but every once in while they get us to pay attention Luke it's just a great time to be alive. For all the struggles of being a top-level boxing fan. And by the way, calendar-wise, if you look at the last decade, it's actually a good time right now to be a boxing fan. Yet you

still gotta deal with some of the ish that's just naturally there. It's a frickin' great time to be an MMA fan. So what a time to be alive. What a time to host the best show in combat sports today Luke okay so count your blessings brother all right because ever since I showed up in your life it's just been I mean it's just been a you know walk in the clouds you know what I'm saying yeah I'd say it's actually the other way around but I want to point something out here BC if you look at these odds you've got I think however many bouts are on the card only one of them literally only one of them has any fighter in the minus 300 range.

That being Sajara Eubanks. All the rest of them are either fighters in the 100 range or the 100-200. And that's it. All the way up and down. I mean, it goes back to the point about what kind of MMA do you want? Certainly, when UFC is hot and rocking, our lives are a lot better. Obviously, we want the fighters to are a lot better. Obviously, you want the fighters to make a lot more than they make. I really hope that they do. But I do worry about changes to the industry to make it like boxing because it would make cards like this,

not impossible, but a lot harder to come by, or at least certainly a lot rarer, I would say. And you know, if you're a consumer right now, you have it good. You have it very, very, very good. Now, that takes us to the second topic, BC. We stay on the card itself, but there are other gems around it, particularly that co-main event. Let's start there for just a second, BC. Aspen Ladd taking on Macy. I always mispronounce her last name, I think.

Chiasin? Chiasin? Chiasin? Chiasin, maybe? Chiasin? Yeah, I'm not sure. I think she's out of four to seven she's a great fighter Aspen Ladd has been kind of this this this um well you thought maybe the next big thing and then she had the hiccup against Jermaine Duran-Damee but we know Duran-Damee got a lot she was always pretty good but got a lot better since then Ladd has I think redeemed herself this fight it seems to me BC winner of it probably gets a title shot, would you say?

Or maybe winner of this gets Tate? How do you assess what's on the line here? To be honest, it's very tough to say. Even though we cry a lot that this division is so top-heavy, but even worse than that, just barren outside. After Amanda, the reality is it's actually in a fun spot. Not just Tate's comeback. You got Holm and GDR both wanting big fights. Irene Aldana just had a big win. So

look, a great opportunity for Aspinland to remind us who she is. I think it's a winnable fight, although Macy's won two in a row and is starting to turn herself around. But Aspin at 26 does have a lot to answer, Luke. She had that, you know, 10 second hiccup, whatever it was against GDR. But the way she came on against Yana Kunitskaya in a close fight, in the fight that followed that, when we kind of needed to see who Aspen was. Do you remember her trainer challenging her to get out there and get the finish? And she came out in round three and absolutely put it on the Hammer's girl and hammered her, Luke, impressively.

Then she tears the ACL, MCL, and all the CLs in her knee. So, Luke, there's a lot to answer physically, but, you know, she's got that strong ground game. She's aggressive. She's young. I don't know. There's a lot to build off of here where this is a very big comeback fight, but you can say at the very least she's going to get a big name next

if she wins this. So plenty at stake. I'm looking forward to talking to her to see how she's recovering physically and mentally but she's a player in this division I mean maybe in the in the past we were like you know she's just somebody next to feed to Nunes because we don't have anybody else now Luke we got some fun matchups to make at 135 would you say this is the most viable the division has been since Amanda initially cleaned everybody out I mean this is this fun times here yeah you're just seeing a bit of a reordering of the division. Now, as it stands, Chiasan, again, if I'm pronouncing that wrong,

please forgive me, is sitting at 10, Aspen Ladd sitting at 3. Ladd is a lot further along. So of the two, Chiasan has way, way more ground. She could make up with a big win here. That would be huge for her. But with Aspen Ladd, dude, we've said it before. We have to be fair about it. When you come the UFC very very early in your career at least early in your age you got to give these people a little bit of time to become frankly different people different

fighters much not just better but more developed and and and some of the things you'll know them for their weaknesses will go away and some of their strengths will build you know she's still so young that I I agree that any kind of injury comeback you always got to be a little bit managed in your expectations but at the same time man i do she's not hyped for by accident she is very very very good and i think she's grown up a lot in the octagon that that fight you're talking about the kunitskaya fight where you know they had to kind of slap her not quite literally but they had to kind of metaphorically slap her around to like dial into this and then once she did she obviously had a tremendous performance that shows you internally what is there but the the the competitive

ability to draw upon that more easily more readily you know those are the kinds of things that someone who's a little bit more experienced is going to be able to do and so I'm really curious about this fight I think Shiasin is a hammer. She has good wrestling, good ground and pound. I think she's going to be the bigger of the frame of the two. Lad's a little small-ish for the weight class. But this is a hell of a fight, man, and big, big stakes for women's bantamweight. Title shot, I don't know. I think you're right.

No, I don't think so. Definitely a big fight afterwards. You mentioned great odds on this card. You know, minus 195, according to William Hill, as the Sanhagen has the favorite in the main event. Plus 165 for Dillashaw. Then you look at this co-main. Plus 160 for Macy as the underdog.

Minus 190 for Aspen Ladd. So it shows you how much is expected to be a good one, Luke. I think that third round for Ladd against Kunitskaya showed us that there's another gear. There's a more aggressive, ground-and-pounding warrior in there that hopefully she used the last year and a half through her injury recovery to activate because there's some big fights to make. But, Luke, I don't want to go any further in this show without you really making room for this giant erection coming to talk all things Macy Barber, Miranda Maverick, because this is your sloppy Super Bowl. Not sloppy. This is your Super Bowl look.

You've been waiting for this type of fight. Yes, okay. We don't have to sexualize the preview, BC. In fact, I don't want to because you've got to be fair to women's MMA. Like, it's still not quite on par with the men's game for a lot of different reasons in general, in general. But obviously, you're going to get pockets of that where they're going to be better, or at least, at a bare minimum, the same. Dude, Miranda Maverick at Women's Flyweight taking on Macy Barber.

I can't overstate how awesome I think this fight is on paper. And of course, it has to deliver. But I tweeted about it last night. It's not exactly, I mean, in many ways, they're very different fights. But it's a similar kind of fight, a similar type of fight to GSP Trigg and Jones-Vera. Someone else told me it was Jones-Bader. It's a little like Jones-Bader, but the difference is that Jones-Bader were both on a hot streak when they fought, which is not the case between Maverick and Barber.

But at the same time, GSP Trigg had title implications in a way this one does not. But why do I say this? Because you had Macy Barber who came out of the contender series shot out of a cannon. She looked to be in a, just, you know, a future title contender at a bare minimum. And she has stumbled along the way and she's had injuries along the way. And she's had some setbacks along the way. And, and so you've had to kind of recalibrate what you thought about her, but she's still obviously a very good and be really young. Again, you gotta be fair to these young fighters. They do get better very quickly,

but you've got to let them make some mistakes along the way. And then you have Miranda Maverick, who is somebody who I've had, from a scouting perspective, my eye on because she comes from a smaller team out of Norfolk, Virginia, but when you watch her on tape, her movement is excellent. This is what I'm talking about when I mean the modern game just being so much better. tape her movement is excellent this is what i'm talking about when i mean the modern game just being so much better she has great understanding of her own um uh what combinations work for her she gets her distance pretty quickly she makes great in-fight reads she's well-rounded she's

competitively tested it's got that feeling where you have these two top prospects and you can't quite tell which one's coming or going you think you know but there's only one real way to find out and that's to put them in there together you don't see a lot of these fights um frankly not even boxing in mma either they don't come around that often the ufc tends to not try to make these fights if they can at all avoid it but these two are on a collision course i love love this fight. Outside of the main event, BC, this is the one I have my eye on the most. It is historically significant for this division, and to get a fight of this caliber

with fighters this young on the women's side of things tells you that side of the game has made light years improvement in how good the offerings can be. This is a 24-year-old against a 23-year-old, both who have been tabbed either now or in the past for Macy as a future potential star. So Luke,

odds-making again. Let me give you the William Hill line. It's so close. Plus 115 Macy Barber, minus 135 Miranda Maverick. Because of their age and the fact that both have such bright potential, to echo your earlier point, it does have that feel of, like, remember when Jon Jones and Ryan Bader were both unbeaten and fought?

Or maybe Jones had the DQ loss by that point. But you get the point. It was like, oh, crap, two sort of bright guys that may have next in this division are going to fight this early. But the storyline is different here with Barber coming off of two defeats. So I want to ask you, like, is this smart matchmaking for her? Because after that humbling loss to Roxy Mataferi, which was an upset loss, we thought Macy was going to go right from that to a title shot

and try to become the youngest champion. We know she got hurt in that. We know it exposed some parts in her game. But, Luke, she came right back against Alexa Grasso with really difficult matchmaking and lost that. If you're managing her, if you're still on the idea that this 23-year-old could maximize into something great and again let's not overvalue losses early in mma not even in boxing either

but especially in mma where it's just part of the game dude you got to learn would you go back would you would you have matched her against random maverick coming off a two-fight losing streak right now i mean they are doubling down on nope we figured it out she's the goods i would say probably not but i would also caution i see this listen macy barbara came out and made a lot of claims about what she was going to do and she was going to be i think even younger than john jones when she became champion she told everyone she had this like i don't know it was a not an alarm or some kind of setting in her phone to remind her and all this kind of stuff and up up through the Jillian Robertson fight where she like, you know, snuffed her out inside of a round, you know,

I think she was eight and oh at the time you were like, wow, man, this is, she's on a collision course, Jesus Christ. But then of course she had the setbacks against Moda Ferry and then the injury and then Alexa Grasso just completely no soldier. And you're like, wow, you know, to your point, maybe this is not the right fight. Here's the thing though. It's like, you don't want to play MMA math. Styles make fights. And you know, for example example in the case of Miranda Maverick she lost to Deanna Bennett in February of 2019 then by September she came back and rematched her and

only won the Invicta FC Phoenix Series 2 tournament she then submitted and finished off Deanna Bennett so like you know understand that these guys these ladies get better pretty quickly. But here's my point. You know, Macy Barber ran through Jillian Robertson and Miranda Maverick had, you know, a really tough time with her. And that was in her last fight. So this idea that like, am I high on Miranda Maverick? Yeah, I'm extremely high on Miranda Maverick. I do think that in the future, she'll be in very significant bouts for the UFC's flyweight division.

I don't know if she's there yet at Macy Barber. We all know the questions, but again, those eight wins, they weren't flukes, folks. She went through and just was hammering people along the way. I don't think that that all of a sudden has gone away either. So that's why this fight is absolutely critical for this division. And I love that the UFC has taken a risk on these two at 23 and 24, to your point, and putting them in there. It is a phenomenal fight. My only regret is that it's only three as opposed to five rounds

because it should be five. Luke, are you feeling what I'm feeling, that this prelim main event on the plus Puna Soriano against Brendan Allen could be a banger? I'm into this. Oh, Brendan Allen, another one of these dudes who's just an absolute hammer. I think he was out of Milwaukee or something,

but now he's at Sanford. And then Punahele Soriano, I think that's the guy they call coconut bombs, right? I mean, this dude just comes to throw. Oh, he brings it. Yeah, he throws it. He bangs. But dude, all the way down,

Randy Costa versus Adrian Yanez. Julio Arce, shouts to Columbia, taking on Andre Yule. Sajar Eubanks is on the card. And even Ian Hynash against Nasruddin Imavov. Dude, that's a good fight, too. People don't know who Imavov is, and I pronounce his name poorly,

but seeing the tape on him, he's fucking good. They're all up and down this fight, this card. There's great fights. Hey, Hannah Goldie's back in the opener, Luke. All right? I know you follow her. All right? You're a follow her. All right. You're a gross person who denies what you do.

All right. Anything else from this card stand out to you besides what we've already gone over? Kyler Phillips taking on Howley and Pipe is another good one. Apparently, I can't say anything on this show that isn't received sexually, Luke. Okay. I'm a professional MMA analyst. All right, bro. Yeah, I know. But every time you're like, hey, let's talk about titties.

Anyway, this next fight features two women's straw weights. And I'm like, well, maybe don't do that at first. But you get the idea. Tons and tons of fights on this card. Also, Mickey Gall in the opener. And what feels like BC, we don't talk about Mickey Gall hardly at all anymore. Six and three, he's up and down. He loses to Randy Brown.

He beats George Sullivan. He loses to Sanchez. He beats Tuari. He loses to Mike Perry and lost like pretty handily and now he's going up against I would actually say a pretty good fighter in Jordan Williams this is what are the odds on this one so our friends at William Hill they've got Mickey Gall as the underdog at plus 155 Jordan Williams at minus 180 frankly I don't even disagree with BC. Mickey Gall has his back up against the wall here, for sure. Remember when we used to think Mickey Gall was like a potential player?

I know he had gotten sort of the set-up matchmaking fighting both Mike Jackson and CM Punk, but he had shown some bright things in a cocky, almost Colby Covington-like confidence in himself without the extra shtick on that, although he is pretty corny in his own right in his uh commentary but uh yeah this is this is a referendum fight luke so let's see what

the kid has here all right i mean i think you know dude how many of the fighters who came off of dana white looking for a fight have had lasting lasting success mickey golf still here he could win this one so let's not write him off but But who else was it? Sage Northcutt? Bounced? Who else came from that? I would have to rack my brain, Luke, and I can't produce. I can't produce. Was there another significant name? There was a heavyweight who they found out had a criminal past.

Oh, Randy Brown, according to Maneage. Randy Brown. Maybe. Yeah, maybe that's true. All right, well, we'll see. Oh, that was Gaff. Maybe. Yeah, maybe that's true. All right. All right. Well, we'll see. Oh, that was Gaff. Sorry. Let me put some respect on Gaffney Pierre's name.

That was Gaff on that one. All right. Fair enough. All right, BC, we get to the boxing side of things. A report has come out from Mike Coppinger of ESPN. Nothing is official, but they are, quote, closing in on a deal between dot, dot, dot, Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant. Why is this significant?

Well, over the weekend at 154, we tried to get a unification for that weight class where Charlo had three belts, Castaño had one. There was the draw, but the idea is the winner would have had all four belts. If Canelo wins and defeats Caleb Plant or vice versa, the winner of this bout will have collected four different bouts. It'll be a pay-per-view, PBC on Fox, September 18th, BC. What do you make of this news? How to interpret it? I'm so happy because there was some talk that the negotiations were kind of falling apart

and Canelo was, I don't know if they put that out there publicly to try to sway the negotiations, but Canelo was suddenly looking forward, looking at possibly going back up to 175 and going after B-Vol or the other champion, our boy Better Beef. But look, when you have a chance to make an undisputed championship fight in this era, I mean, break glass and go for it. Here's why this is awesome, Luke,

because Canelo has, in leaving Golden Boy and his own, even though he's been fighting their last few fights, and basically becoming a promotional and network-free agent as the pound-for-pound king and biggest pay-per-view star in the game. We've seen fighters in the past use that power, right, to match themselves easy and to control all aspects. The fact that Canelo's going out of his way. Now, look, he'll be a favorite against Plant. We all know that.

And Plant's coming off a performance against Caleb Truex that was not scintillating. So you're going to expect Canelo to win this. But the fact that he's going out of his way to make it to leave No Doubt at 168 and leave as the Undisputed Champion and is willing to go to the opponent's, you know, promoter, manager, and network, which is PBC, Al Heyman, and Fox in this case,

this isn't a DAZN co-promotion here. Canelo has retained the services of Eddie Hearn as his promoter, but, you know, right now, Eddie gets it. Devin Haney, a guy who's fought on DAZN of late, but now is a network free agent, also retained Eddie Hearn, who's willing to match Devin on other networks. This is a good sign. Eddie Hearn is a promoter right now that gets how to manage stars. And the fact that Canelo's willing to use his power for good here, this is great for boxing.

I do like the style matchup, even though, yes, Caleb Plant did not look great in the last one. I mean, he won handily, but he did not look spectacular. He is a pure boxer, Caleb Plant. Sweet hands, unbeaten, great hand speed, very tough, not incredible power.

But I'm going to be interested to see this style matchup against Canelo and just interested in Luke. When you have somebody in Canelo's spot, he has made it his business now to achieve things, to figure out at this turning point in his career where he's still in his physical prime, he's number one in every category commercially and critically, he wants to round out his legacy, and you've got to respect that. And the fact that he's openly saying after this, I'm going up to 175, I'm taking on those guys as well to try to do the same.

I mean, how else could you be anything but excited, Luke? Are there better opponents for him than Caleb? Yeah, sure, but this is a means to an end, and this is not one of those mandatory walkovers. This ain't, what's that dude's name that he fought earlier this year? Oh, Yildirim? This ain't Avni Yildirim, okay? This is an unbeaten champion.

Let's put some respect on Caleb Plant's name. So I am just happy that all parties look close to having gotten this finalized. Let's do it, Luke. Yeah, could I tell you that the most exciting fight I could imagine in my mind for Canelo Alvarez would be against Caleb Plant uh no I would not say that now again to your point it would hardly be some terrible fight in fact I think it'll be a very good fight but um the real selling point is what you described which is that Canelo can call his own shots quite literally at this point he can do almost whatever he wants and he is choosing to take uh in the sense of trying to

unify the weight class a difficult path and then he has a site set on 175 his trainers have been unequivocal about that about going up and taking on bival and then buterbiev which is like hard to even fathom for a guy who fought mayweather and like what i think he had he couldn't be any more than 150 or something 152 yeah 152. Yeah, 152. He was drained for that, I understand. But the point being is just to see his maturation as a skill set and size to some degree has been phenomenal to just watch. You want to see these guys go out there

and do the things that champions are supposed to do. And he is following that path directly. He does deserve to be on pay-per-view. He does deserve to call his own shots about where and when he wants to compete. And for folks who may not know, this is close to Mexican Independence Day. It will be in Las Vegas. He is obviously going to have the hometown crowd, so to speak, in his favor. I would imagine the Canelo fans and the Mexican-American boxing fans are going to follow him pretty

closely to that contest. contest it's just great it's great that we have the leading figure in boxing leading by example not taking the road less traveled uh in the easy sense taking the road less traveled in the much harder sense finding ways to make his life difficult for our entertainment but but for his glory as well and if he goes out there and he earns it, man, what would you say about this guy? Already a big deal. I do spend a lot of time on this show lathering him in praise because I think it's deserving. Luke, how important is it right now that Canelo is staying active

on his own schedule? When he was with Golden Boy, he still had to stay on Oscar De La Hoya's schedule in terms of scheduling big fights and trying to make it a big event. Now Canelo can call his own shots. He's realizing that in his absolute prime, staying busy is keeping him sharper. Is he fighting guys he's favored against? Well, yeah, he's the pound for pound king. He's going to be favored against almost anybody, unless he takes on a challenge, you know, way outside of his weight, which he's kind of already teasing he wants to do. But he's going to have fought, or his aim, Luke, is to fight four times

this calendar year. And when you mix in that he fought in December of last year, I mean, he could fight five times in a 13-month calendar, or 13th-month stretch. Remember when Conor McGregor at featherweight fought that many times in a short window and was absolutely, you know, great from fight to fight? There's something to that. I think the fact that these guys today just only fight twice a year, sometimes not even that, I mean, it's just not enough, Luke. So all things considered,

it's not that Canelo historically is without any sin. There was Clumb Buterol. He waited out Triple G a couple of years and he didn't believe that he could move up to middleweight and fight a prime Triple G and he stayed at 155, his preferred weight. But Luke, when you consider that was four or five years ago when we were sort of questioning,

could Canelo move up to 160 and be the same? Good God, he's cleaned out 160, not 168, and he's threatening to go back up to 175. I can't stress this enough. After the Mayweather loss and the way Canelo bounced back, I knew he was going to be a special fighter because he would have been a multi-division champion and he's a stud star leading man in the sport.

I never would have guessed if you had told me back then that he would be this good, this high in weight, and having gotten to this level, Luke. I mean, it is rather remarkable. This is the Canelo era. Normally I'd say for better or worse, but I'm really only saying for better in this case, Luke. I remember the first time I saw him compete.

I think, correct me if I'm wrong, did he not fight Miguel Cotto's brother on the undercard of Mayweather Mosley? Does that sound right to you? It was the co-main of, yeah. It was a high up there on that, yeah. And Cotto's brother early took it to him a little bit, and Canelo had to kind of stick it back on him.

And he did, man. He absolutely did do Canelo finds ways to you know again Mayweather fight notwithstanding to rise to the occasion and yeah to your point he's had a couple of bouts where you're like the scoring just went in his favor and you're like you could justify it but it seemed a little bit unfair but okay man he didn't rest on it let's put it that way he didn't coast on that he didn't use that as like oh okay I've achieved enough I don't need to take any more risks he doubled down on it and I think at this point Let's put it that way. He didn't coast on that. He didn't use that as like, oh, okay, I've achieved enough. I don't need to take any more risks.

He doubled down on it, and I think at this point, that's what you like to see. My question to you, BC, is it's going to be on Fox, BBC, Pay-Per-View. How much are they going to charge for this? They're not going to charge like 80 bucks for this, are they? Without having any knowledge, I would have guessed $74.95. That's what I would have guessed because you can put the undisputed label on it. It is Canelo. And going to Fox,

let's not forget, you know, sometimes you hear rumors of the PBC on Fox's eventual demise and whatever. You still get to promote that on, like, you know, the start of the football NFL season and stuff. I mean, you know, that's a big deal. I think that's why Canelo was so willing and wanted

to do that. That's a big deal in terms of creating a casual crossover fan base so i would guess they would go to that level but we'll see luke we'll have to see indeed all right we go from the most interesting side of boxing to the least interesting side bc or is it is logan paul is logan paul going to box anderson silva uhaked messages suggest maybe that we do. According to Bloody Elbow, Logan Paul's next boxing match could be against Anderson Silva. Bellator prospect Dylan Danish revealed in leaked Instagram messages on Tuesday. BC, did you see this? Quote, there will be a huge event in Dubai September 19th.

Main event is Anderson Silva-Logan Paul boxing match. Would you like to fight a grappling match? ADCC rules and referees on that actual card. So that was in Dylan Danis' thing. What do you think, BC? I mean, if it's true, it's obviously a dick move by Danis. But, you know, I wonder if there's some smoke here and if there's some fire behind it, Luke.

That kind of would be the next fight to make for both in a lot of ways. So would I be excited about it? If you can convince me that both will fight to win. And that's again, the thing that will separate whether this, this celebrity bubble bursts quickly or not. And, and, and the one thing that the reason why I'm retaining excitement and expectation for Tyron Woodley against Jake Paul, I think they're both going to go out there, try to win, and we'll throw hands until somebody gets knocked out. I believe that, Luke. Floyd Logan?

Yeah, it didn't happen that way. I tended to guess that we wouldn't see Logan again or that maybe I wouldn't be as excited. And look at that dapper, Luke. Dapper fellow there between those two superstars. Look at that guy right there. Did you shit your pants on this one? Luke, that guy Fs, alright? Usually, you know.

No, he doesn't. Exclusively with one person, but that guy just has the spirit, the BDE, Luke. I mean, that's just, that's incredible. Yes, you got the ED. I see that. Go ahead. Luke, I didn't think I'd be excited about a Logan Paul fight again. Would you have, now look, this matchup

would attract people. If there's Abu Dhabi involved or wherever, I mean, there's probably a lot of money, so that would lead you to believe there's a great chance this could happen. I don't know what network, I don't know what situation. Would you have confidence coming into this that this could be a fun fight, or would it be safe boxing on the outside? I think it depends on Andy, right? i think it depends on andy right i think it depends on andy i think that you know we saw in the julio cesar chavez fight that andy gave us a spirited

performance i think is a good way to put it and uh chavez did not and he paid for it as a consequence i i think i'll say this dude i think you know when you for me you know you can like her to hate dislike the Paul brothers. I'm not, I don't know, aside from boxing, I don't really know what they do. So I'm not a fan in that sense. But I've said this before, dude, Jake to me is just, Jake deserves a little bit more, maybe a lot more respect because he's actually taking a lot more risk.

A guy like Anderson at this point, he's like, oh, I've got nothing left to prove. He said it a million times, and I'm out here to have fun, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I really believe he would go in there and not treat Paul like Chris Lieben, when Anderson Silver fought him,

but do the kind of same thing Mayweather did, where kind of massage it to give the audience a bit of a show. I'm out on shit like that. That doesn't interest me at all. I don't want that show. Get that show away from me. You know what I'm saying?

Are we really going to pay for another show where Logan does admirable but just gets his ass beat again? To me, I don't understand what the point of that is. I guess there's an audience for it. It's fine. I'm old. No one cares what I think, but that to me is not all that interesting. What's interesting to me is Jake Paul

taking on Tyron Woodley, and Tyron Woodley's had his issues, but he's a real fighter still training devastating puncher still very much so that's that's a pro bout where you know you can take the fucking guy's head off that is to me a very much a totally different kind of fight i'll give that the respect it deserves i'm not going to hate on silva and logan making big money if that's what they're going to get god bless them but it ain't for me it would be interesting we don't have any inside info on this if it if it would go back to triller would it go to showtime because they're in the you know jake paul and logan paul business lately it'd be interesting to see but if you could guarantee me that andy would go for the win right he probably solicited

a few mma journalist wives ahead of time and an indecent proposal email but after that look if he was willing to go into that fight and go for the knockout, again, this is where this genre could be booming. If people are willing to sell their soul in these, well, they're already selling their soul for the payday, but if they're willing to actually put the soul out there and take a chance that it gets spectacularly finished, this could be a fun fight because Logan's a big boy. It's the one thing we can say about him.

He's a big boy, and he can handle himself from the standpoint of I don't think he'd be easily knocked out. I think Floyd thought he would easily sort of slap this kid around, and he didn't, and it became a really boring fight. What if Andy went after him, Luke? I don't know. I don't know if I have that confidence that it would, but we'll see, Luke. Maybe Showtime will pick it up, and then we'll have to have that confidence

that it would. Yes, in which case I'll have to change my tune and, you know, collect the check to do it. In all seriousness, again, listen, if Anderson Silva's going to get, let's just imagine something, $10 million for a payday by who, God knows who, over in the Middle East because they want to pay him

for it. It's like, you know, he was so underpaid throughout the totality of his career. I'm sure he made good money, but relative to what he should have been making, I'm sure he left a lot on the table. And the end of his career in the UFC was not a great one. You know, God bless him. I'm not going to hate on that. That's okay. But like, you're asking me, or the audience generally, is this something you're interested in? I'm not interested in either a case where Anderson has to kind of massage it to give us entertainment,

or it's just bad boxing. Like, I don't understand what the point is. Woodley versus Paul may or may not be bad boxing. We'll have to see. But the stakes are so real and so different that I'm willing to let's take a very wait-and-see approach on that. But they're just not the same to me. They're not the same. Look, if you had received the same email from Anderson's people that I did, along with the medium-sized dress shirts that they sent and the hair gel in the mail for doing a fun interview with him. And, you know, he asked you straight up like he asked me, you know,

hey, come to my gym, wear my fight gear, roll around with me, and bring your significant other, given that, you know, they're the two most important South Americans in your life, you know, or at least two of the three are your wife and Anderson Silva. Would you have, in good life, you know, or at least two of the three are your wife and Anderson Silva. Would you have in good faith considered that? What people don't know about B.C. is that he mistakenly believes that people are trying to fuck him or people around him when they're never at all trying to do that. He'll go up to like a water fountain at a grocery, not a grocery store, like a CVS or 7-Eleven, and he'll get his Big Gulp, and someone will just stand next to him waiting for their Big Gulp,

and he'll come out of the store and be like, that person next to the B in the Big Gulp machine, they were trying to fuck me there, and I saw it, and I lived it. I'm like, they were just trying to get soda, but BC thinks everyone's trying to fuck them, and I don't quite understand why. The thing about BDE, which only, you know,

the genius possessed and the insane lament, you know, Gianis and i after last night he certainly understands what it's like to carry that bde um you know it it is a magnet luke for all things good and bad so uh you know it comes with the territory all right all right well just so you know no one's trying to fuck you uh okay with that out of the way bc we are almost done here with the rundown we'll get to some of the fun parts of the show but last and certainly not least what do you want to say about this bc mcgregor continues yes you i i i was okay with not having this on the show bc wanted to keep it so i said okay you know let's do that so you got more mcgregor what do you want to call it let's milk

that utter luke can we this is utterly ridiculous Can we milk all what's left out of this, please? All right. So Dana White spoke to, I guess, Fox News, because Lord knows he definitely doesn't go on political outlets and do political things. But in this particular case, he was talking about Conor McGregor's ankles and his chronic injuries. Now, here's what Dana White had to say, quote, about McGregor. He's had ankle issues for the last couple of years,

and he had asked if he could tape his ankles coming into this fight, and he got clearance to do it from the Nevada Commission, White told Fox News. And then he opted not to tape them. I don't know why, but yeah, he has chronic arthritis in his ankles. However, BC, Dr. David Abasi, who was a ringside physician, told Fansite, Now, this is not a gentleman who evaluated McGregor. I think he's working with very incomplete information. But here's what he said, and I want to get your response.

Quote from the doctor. With a supposed kick to the elbow, you look closely, and again, you don't have to be an expert to have a great view. That was a glancing blow, and it didn't really hit the elbow. It's more of the inside of the arm, and it wasn't obvious energy or force. You can see there wasn't enough of an abrupt stoppage. It's just so obvious, if you look at those two two scenarios the other being the checked leg kick on video that's not what happened he does seem to roll his ankle because the fracture occurs and he loses his balance and of course basic physics takes over and he rolls it laterally and probably to jump the next question you might be asking me so what was it it's hard to tell but it could

have been cumulative these are fighters and there's a lot of contact with the tibia to multiple body parts that could have led to the weakening. So let me just ask you this, BC. Again, I'm sort of over this story. Anthony Smith came out yesterday and said everyone in the Glover fight, he had a broken hand, never revealed it. He had a fucked up leg, but he still beat Jimmy Crute in that fight anyway. So it takes and it goes. In this case, i don't even understand what chronic arthritis has to do with a broken tibia except if you want to say chronic inflammation reduces bone integrity over time but no one's even made that claim i guess i'm just trying to point out i don't understand why we're having this conversation no the loss is not as firm as the

second one but it's not as dismissible as as McGregor wants to make it either. What do you make of all of this? Yeah, I mean, look, the story's lingering because it's McGregor, obviously, and because he's been more willing than ever before to lean heavily into these excuses. It seems like he's a piñata now, and everyone in the game has taken their turn whacking at it and saying, you know, he wasn't injured or whatever. I think, Luke, the problem is all of this excuse-heavy stuff, even if you believe morsels of it but not the whole thing,

it's making Conor look pretty weak. That is the thing. It's kind of making him look like an old biatch, to be honest with you. Maybe, again, that's what he needs to do to psych himself back into the belief because every great fighter needs to be a con man to their own better decisions in a lot of ways to talk themselves into it. So if that's the case, I'm willing to forgive it. But it's interesting how many people with some sort of knowledge are coming out, whether they're fighters or physicians or whatever. It just kind of also makes him look potentially Luke given Dana's comments here,

not smart. Like if there was a significant injury, then again, you came out leading with kicks, which could expand it. And if there wasn't now we, then again, you came out leading with kicks, which could expand it. And if there wasn't, now we're talking about you practicing without pads and, you know, not necessarily dealing well with your chronic arthritis. I mean, it's all a bunch of bullshit in the end. There was a new theory somewhat pointed out there. I mentioned earlier I'd watched the TJ Dillashaw, Brendan Schaub food truck diaries. Luke, I'm not sure if you saw that but tj's take on it was that it was weight

cut related which stripped connor of the minerals in his i know we're really going deep here which stripped connor potentially of the minerals in his body which had led to some potential fragility in the bones which would have made a break or a stress fracture in camp a lot easier to have happen luke do you give any credence or clear water or even a revival to this are you just ready to keep going i'm done on this one man again it's not that again it's not that i don't believe that it played a role in the fight on some level or another that you know these fighters go in there with terrible injuries they have to find a way to navigate it and sometimes they find a way through and a lot of times they don't and that's not fair but it's not fair in ways fucking across the board like the i people have asked me like oh connor's just explaining what

happened that's i don't really buy that to me it seems a little bit naive to say that like he's bringing this up just as a means of explaining what happened. No, the obvious implication is that they're asking you to view these in such a way that you can dismiss the veracity or the value anyway of Poirier's win. That's what they want you to do. They want you to be like, oh, no, no, no, this doesn't count. Sorry, it does. Maybe not quite to the full extent, but there's a certain expectation that these details should tell us, like, oh, well, we can't really trust what we saw with any of that. And then, by the way, his coach, John Cavanaugh, was coming out and saying,

oh, everything was looking great for the second round. How? Mike Brown came out and was asked about those comments. He was like, I don't know how any person could look at that and say it was going well. There's just all these comments out there that they want people to dismiss all the negative things around them and just focus on what they think matters. And again, it does matter.

Among many other details for many other fighters many times, it's not special in any kind of way. Luke, you ever been on the business end of a devastating breakup? You ever been the nail? Oh, I think I lost hearing in this. Hold on. You got me. Go ahead. Luke, you ever been the nail in a devastating breakup you ever been the oh i think i lost hearing in this hold on you got ahead luke you ever been the nail and a devastating breakup you ever been absolutely hammered out i'm good i hear you now sorry about that my earpiece died a female ever just throw you down a flight of stairs at the end of a relationship and you're just completely

blindsided luke has a person ever thrown me down a flight of stairs and then blindsided me what are you talking about i'm talking relationally heartbreak luke you've been on the business end of one of these we don't have to oh yeah i've had i've had some i've had some breakups that broke me down during the recovery luke which is always sad hopeless and pathetic and in hindsight you know you finally get through the storm and then you're like oh shit i wish i could redo the last three months i wish i didn't call or text that person as much i wish i didn't say these things publicly i wish i did i wish i had basically gone into hiding like back into a training camp and re-emerged a year later as a completely reformed animal who's past this and doesn't

have to ever speak of it again and basically, you know, like that. But, Luke, we can't. We kind of want that for the fighters badly, though. We want them badly to just sort of like, okay, Conor suffered the L. Let's not hear from him until the next fight. But it's just not realistic, especially with somebody of this star level, Luke.

Would I have liked Conor to just put a pin, you know, let's end this now, come out and be like, yep, I lost. I also got hurt, but I lost. No, I'm not here to be a bitch. I'm coming you again you know like i kind of want that now just i kind of need connor to respond now to put an end to all this luke yeah listen he's got a lot of things going on he has that new uh pub that he opened that looks fucking phenomenal and you know he's got his his lamborghini yacht or something like dude he's killing it like enjoy those things he earned it but uh i'm done with this like oh i had a medical condition coming into a fight yeah dude join the club wow yeah that is not in any way any kind of an exonerating kind of claim all right

bc before we get to wheel of death i want to remind everyone that you and i somehow i don't know how are finalists for the sports category of the People's Choice Podcast Award. We appreciate, of course, all you guys do for us. We hope you enjoy the show enough to nominate us to advance to the final round. To nominate Morning Combat, go to podcastawards.com slash app slash sign up.

Could the link be worse? And then toggle down to, of course, sports category. We've included the link at the top of the episode description as well so if you go into the description box below there should be a link there hey mk fans do us a solid even if you don't think that award means anything or whatever you're just jaundiced and you don't care about anyone else except mk at this point in your life we understand that but it would be our bosses bc true or false our bosses would look at advancing in this award thing very favorably like I said last week like to be honest with you

Luke and I are not into like you know two time award like I couldn't give a shit but to be honest with you though along with getting to like the 100k subscriber threshold this shit does matter to the people that pay us and pull the strings that want to do big things for us it's a. It's a

justification. It's a means to an end in a lot of ways. So if you care, if you love us like we love you, do us a solid, alright? Make that walk of shame over to podcastawards.com and you don't have to put your credit card info. Alright, you know, come on. Just do it. Alright, so there you have it. BC,

the show is yours. Yes, every Wednesday, here's what we do. Sometimes Luke can be a difficult person to talk to. He doesn't want to include McGregor in the rundown, although I forced it in this time. So I have to create a segment in which I ask him uncomfortable questions. So what these are is 10 categories. Luke will spin the wheel five times.

Good faith responses to average faith intention questions. It's called The Wheel of Death. Bum-ba-da-bum-bum. Ten categories. Luke, your categories this week are Tattoo on Titi, Huge Hogs, MMA Media Edition, Chewbacca's Libido,

Consensual Mindfucks, Heard It Both Ways, You Ain't lying. You know who the fuck I am. Ignoring your Indian roots. And finally, death of Palooza, Luke. You get what you get.

Alright, let's spin this bitch. And, uh, oh, I think Armenian World Order. Did I mention that one too? Yeah, there's ten of them, Luke. Whatever you get. Alright, let's 10 of them, Luke. Whatever you get. All right. All right, let's see. Oh, it's the first one. Oh, hey, hey, head movement.

Let's get plenty of head movement here, Luke. Coach, this is sent in by Coach Edmund. Luke, let's face it. Despite my love for doing interviews for MK, it hasn't necessarily translated into huge clicks or downloads. Yes, you and I did a combined 490,000 on YouTube and views talking to Floyd Mayweather and Versace robes, but that was a unique situation. Your solo MK interviews, on the other hand, Luke,

have largely done well, even though you openly don't enjoy them. Your sit-down with Dustin Poirier ahead of the second Conor fight is still one of our most viewed MK clips at 296,000 and counting. So imagine an oddball scenario in which our management bosses at CBS Sports and Showtime say, BC, look, bro, we love your interview style. It's engaging, it's hypnotic, it's intoxicating. But no one else cares. At all. Okay? This 5K shit you're pulling in with these boxers, no one gives a damn.

The views just aren't there. So moving forward, you are actually in an ironic twist going to acquire Luke's producer credit. And your job moving forward on interviews is to transform Luke into the best and most dynamic interviewer in the MMA space today because the views will be there and the public wants it. So, Luke, after dealing with my own ego and swearing you out privately for weeks, let's say I decided to take the Pepsi challenge. I concoct on my own a new spinoff interview series called MK, Luke Thomas is Coming.

It might sound a lot like Luke Thomas is pissed, but you know, there's a fluid exchange just the same. The premise though, Luke, all guests must agree to a one-on-one zoom for at least 30 minutes and no questions are off limits. The express goal from upper management to BC as your producer is to try to book the most controversial and must see interviews to regularly try to break the most controversial and must-see interviews to regularly try to break that 296 poirier threshold why because a major soft drink sponsor has offered us a deal luke if we can get three straight interviews above 300k all right so what i'm going to do now is give you five potential interviews to kick off the series and your

job is to tell me, based on the questioning, what the final YouTube click number will be. And if we can get three in a row to get that sponsorship. Here we go, Luke. Interview number one. UFC President Dana White on the subjects of fighter pay, interim titles, and cliff diving. I'm not sure what you're asking me.

To predict the YouTube downloads based on that 296,000 threshold we established with Poirier and the 490 with Mayweather. Half a million. Wow, 500,000. Okay, interview number two. Luke chats with UFC heavyweight John Jones

reliving the infamous UFC 214 press conference and talking distinctly about pulsing USADA's handling of his infractions and much more 150k really you don't think that could do a million or or something stupid Luke no I don't I'm not of the belief that there's a strong demand for like John and I to make up and like, oh, wouldn't that be fun? I mean, I think you're right. Like if there were a chance for him, he and I to talk again and we were able to bury the hatchet or whatever. I do think it would do well. Don't get me wrong.

But I'm not convinced that that would be like the thing about Dana is Dana is like currently extremely popular. Obviously he's still active as the UFC president and you're talking about like really controversial issues you know is the John versus me thing like top of mind for fans I don't think I don't imagine that it is it's a niche thing your rivalry with him through press conferences but yeah if you got Dana on there pushing him about these topics you're right you're doing a half a million at least i like where this is going interview idea number three former mandalorian actress gina carano comes on to talk right-wing politics freedom of speech and instagram removing her famous topless photo luke yeah um she did an interview for the Federalist that I think did really poorly. I'm not convinced. I think she was on her way to being really popular with the show. Because if you looked at some of her other stuff, she was like, oh, she was in a Steven Soderbergh movie or whatever. And she was in Deadpool. You've never seen Deadpool. She was in Deadpool as well.

She was in one of the Fast and Furious too, I know, she was in, like, Deadpool. You've never seen Deadpool. She was in Deadpool as well. She was in one of the Fast and Furiouses, too, I think, right? Yeah, but, like, always in some kind of a way that wasn't really memorable. The thing about her character, Cara Dune, was Cara Dune was, like, a great character. She played it really well. She was really well-suited for that role. And she blew it up because she has stupid-ass worldviews that she can't keep to herself. I don't think that would do that well either. I really don't.

I think if we were in the middle of the Mandalorian controversy, it would kill. But we're past it now, and I think it would be okay, but not that great. All right, we wouldn't win the sponsorship with this. Okay, Luke, number four. Your father, Robert Thomas, agrees to sit down on Zoom to talk his parenting style and whether young men need proper validation from their male idols in order to be a success in life.

5K. That's one of your, hey, I'm going to interview Schlappity Schlapp Schlapp from the upcoming boxing card. Oh, thanks, BC. That really put us over the 100K hump. Maybe I could come on as the moderator. This could be a psychological experiment. I'll Martin Bashir your family, Luke, and this could be great, okay?

All right, Luke. So far, only one of the four has broken that threshold we're talking about. Here's the final chance. Number five, Luke, we bring on the most prominent Canadian MMA journalist in an open chat about topics including business ethics and your up and down professional relationship with him. I think that would do really well.

I think that probably do it probably clear your threshold. Yeah. I think we can do a million with that shit, Luke. I also feel like how did you not ask about Joe Rogan? If we interviewed Joe Rogan or whatever, you, me, or whatever, MK did it in MK's way, this imagined version or any other, dude, that would fucking kill. It would fucking kill. That's a great point, Luke.

Obviously, this question and this entire segment has only been created to put you in awkward situations, Luke, but you're right. That would have killed. All right. All right, Luke, spin number two coming your way. Are you crushing your bills? Defeating your monthly payments?

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Oh, I thought I was going to get tattooed on titty. Consensual mind fucks. All right. Luke, UFC middleweight Rodolfo Vieira told MMA Fighting this week that in order to help him get over that submission loss to Anthony Hernandez from February and to return confidently last week, which he did against Dustin Stolfus, his psychologist forced him to watch the Hernandez fight over and over

and over again against his will, basically. Hodoffel initially was against it. Ultimately, though, he credited that with forcing him to accept what happened in order to move past it. Tapping out as a black belt and former ADCC champion, Luke, has to have been as embarrassing a public L as you can possibly have. Conversely, Luke, you, your worst public L, we just talked about it. 2017 UFC 214, the Jon Jones press conference in which he sent you to the sub-basement of Hades, Luke. So my question to you, similarly to Hidalgo, is how many times would you have estimated

that you have watched that clip since it happened in 2017? And in hindsight what like Adolfo what did you ultimately learn from that moment that has helped you professionally moving forward Luke uh how many times have I watched it since probably a handful um we played it on the air a few times on my show and my producers will sometimes joke with me about it and play it you know like as like a sound drop um on air so i've definitely heard it a few times since then um what have i learned i had few things but the biggest one was probably that if you're gonna do the work that i'm gonna do which is you're gonna give your opinion things, you can do other things too.

You can do interviews. You can do breakdowns. You can do, you know, because I was working for, I was there for SiriusXM, but I was still at MMA fighting at the time, obviously. And you said 2014. I think it was 2017, if memory serves. It was UFC 214 in 2017. 214.

Yeah, sorry about that. But in any case, I remember the trip very well. And the lesson that i had learned was that i thought naively but i thought i knew that fighters were really sensitive to criticism i knew that i knew that they were because i'd felt it in a number of different ways previously to that but i'd always thought that if you had uh if they had your phone number and i had a direct line to his management and that you had done, you know,

work with them that was either neutral or in some kind of way that they had gotten some kind of benefit out of for whatever reason, that there would be much more open lines of communication. If they found something you said to be negative or that they didn't like, they would reach out to you about it. And that's actually not the way it works at all. I'm not sure why I thought that, but I,

it certainly is not the way that it works. What happens is that they just hold fucking grudges against you and they don't say shit. In fact, there was a guy who was a UFC champion for a while and I had a long, not Jon Jones, I had a long positive relationship with him for years, literally years. And then I noticed he would stop returning my texts when I tried to get him on one of my shows, and I couldn't figure out what it was. Because normally when they don't return the first couple of texts, you're like, oh, well, they're just busy. Because that happens all the time.

But then after the Jon Jones thing, I was like, you know what? There might be something more to this. So I reached out to an intermediary to be like, hey, man, can you see what's up? And if they want to yell at me and whatever, I'm happy to have a conversation, but I'd like to at least know what the fuck, I don't even know what the problem is. And the intermediary was like, I got you, fam, don't worry.

And he came back two weeks later, he's like, yeah, I can't even, I can't do it. And I'm like, what did I say that got them so pissed? He didn't know. Funnily enough, same thing with Jon Jones. People all, even last week, even last week in Vegas, folks were like, what did you say that got him so mad? And I've asked his management about this probably a half a dozen, if not more times. They don't even fucking know.

Like, they'll just hear something you say, and then they will bury it deep inside. And then they'll just vote your ass off the island. And so what I realized was, if you're going to do this kind of a job where you're going to give your opinion you're going to give it candidly dude not only they're going to rub you the wrong you're going to rub people the wrong way these fighters they don't think long term about their media management very well at my judgment they don't think very well about how to how to keep relationships that honestly would get them better press over time, but neither here nor there. But from now on, if I've criticized someone between fights,

it might be worth to double-check with them to see where they are before trying to spark up a conversation with them because I have found, not always, in fact, I thought Dominic Cruz, I'll give Dominic Cruz credit one time, I went up to Dominic, a, he was calling some fight. And he, for folks who don't know this, this was before I guess they were doing fighter meetings. So Dominic would show up to media day with like a notepad. And then would answer, like he would go fighter by fighter asking them questions. Like to get his notes ready to call the fights.

Like a total pro. And I had noticed he had stopped answering some of my texts for a while and then i went up to him and i was like hey are we cool you know we talk about he actually really appreciated that i did that what he explained was that he doesn't answer any of his questions or his texts anymore about media uh he has a manager he gave me his manager's number and then it was fine it was completely fine it all worked out no problem but it was worth going through that exercise to see what's what. That was what I learned.

That was a good faith answer, Luke. I'm sure you also learned, like, you can't expect or want to be friends with fighters. There's some that are cool. They dab you in person. They even shout you out on Instagram or whatever. But, you know, it's not meant for media and fighters to, you know, they have separate roles in a lot of ways. No, but I was never, but that's the thing, though. meant for media and fighters to you know they have separate roles in a lot of ways so no but i i was never true but that's the thing though here was this is where i got tripped up you see because

i was never trying to be friends with john jones like i didn't have his direct i had his number for a while before he changed it back when he was still living with folks don't notice he started with a team in the upper new york called bomb squad that was where the same place that tam dan mccrory came from if i'm not mistaken the damn barn cat yeah that's where he started out and so when he was doing that we had his number i had him on i had him on the show when he was working out with kyle dake at cornell university i had him on my uh my 1067 the fan here in dc radio show and he came on then like i was never trying to be friends with him but i thought if you had a positive relationship

with someone on a professional level, that if something went wrong, the other person would take an opportunity to do something about it. Because by the way, other fighters who I've had positive relationships with, aside from Dominic Cruz, there's another one recently.

You know about it, BC. I don't want to say which one it was, but remember we were at UFC Media Day and I got a message and I showed it to you. They took the time to be like, hey, I really didn't agree with what you said, but I want to talk about it more. I will never, ever, ever take that for granted, because maybe that's the way that in some people's minds it should be,

but it's not. It's very rare. And again, I'm going to give a warning to folks out there. If you want to do what me and BC does, some folks are going to take it and run with it and they're going to love it and there's going to be a lot of folks including powerful ones that are going to fucking hate it so and they may come after you or they may come after you to kill you over the phone that's right you gotta be wary john was in a weird stretch during that time obviously uh the year before i was working at espn and he had told through his management that he's no longer talking to Okamoto in any form.

So I actually got to interview John in person when he came through Bristol, you know, in a spot that normally would have went for Brett. So, I mean, it's just a Brett. Brett told me after that whole thing, Brett called me and he told me he was like, dude, it's been years since I've been allowed to talk to John. I was like, what did you do? And he's like, I don't know. This happens way more frequently than you might imagine not just to me bc but like you know mma media member says x and then fighter y is like fuck that guy forever and that's just how it goes indeed luke all right spin number three coming your way

come on big booties you know, I'm always cheering for that. You ain't lying. Luke, following his disputed split draw last Saturday against Brian Castaño in their undisputed championship fight, Unified 154 title holder Jermell Charlo put out a statement on Instagram in the last 24 hours regarding a potential rematch. Here's his exact quote. Brian Castaño is one hell of a better fighter than anyone gave him credit for, on Instagram in the last 24 hours regarding a potential rematch. Here's his exact quote. Brian Castaño is one hell of a better fighter than anyone gave him credit for, and he came to fight for his life. If fights are scored as a whole, I landed the harder and better shots,

but boxing isn't scored that way. Boxing is scored round by round. I've always said to take a belt from a champion, you need to take that belt, and the judges felt neither of us did enough to take those other belts, and they ruled it a draw. I don't want to become the undisputed champ by a narrow, controversial decision. I want to make a statement. I didn't do my part to get the KO, and as always, I will continue to learn and improve. When we run it back, just as I adjusted in the second Harrison fight, there will be no doubt about the result. Hashtag Lions only for L Luke, which I can assume means full life brother. Okay.

So Luke, um, the only, I didn't like about that statement, by the way, I like the, that he was like, it's a 10,

nine must system here. It's, it's just, you know, that's what people always forget. Luke. So many people are like, well,

I felt Charlo landed the bigger shots overall. It doesn't matter. It's 12 rounds. If you don't knock somebody out, it's who had more know, that's what people always forget, Luke. So many people are like, well, I felt Charlo landed the bigger shots overall. It doesn't matter. It's 12 rounds. If you don't knock somebody out, it's who had more rounds that they won. I don't like that he said, I think neither judge, you know, judges thought neither of us deserved it. So they scored the draw. No one scores in a draw at the end, dude.

They add up the rounds. I mean, come on, let's get that through our skulls. Anyway, Luke, imagine the two fighters agreed to an immediate rematch this fall and charlo trainer derrick james during a late night youtube rabbit hole randomly stumbles upon a former series called mk dissected luke that used to do gangbusters and he decides to call you and ask your thoughts on how charlo should strategically adjust his style for the second fight what would you tell coach james well here's the problem with this question you want me to answer in good faith

in good faith what i would say is i would need to go through the bout with a fine-tooth comb to look at it more closely the only thing i could say outright and i think his trainer even said this i believe i saw this because it was i it being like, oh, he's absolutely right. There wasn't enough volume from Charlo. There just was not. And I said it on Friday. You cannot match Castaño's volume. Fine.

Don't try to do that. But you're going to have to do more than what I'm going to call the Charlo minimum, which is not laziness, but like that comfort zone where they like to be very, very selective. And dude, you know, 99% of the time that works out exactly as intended. But sometimes it doesn't. And it didn't in the first Harrison fight.

It almost didn't in the second Harrison fight. And it didn't really in this fight either. But beyond that, BC, again, I'm honestly trying to answer in good faith. I don't have any superpowers at all or any special wisdom or any special insight. To the extent I understand any bout is because I record it and I slow it down and I watch it in painstaking detail.

And through that examination, I'm able to get a clearer sense of what happened. I've not done that with this bout, and so I'd be just making shit up if I said something other than volume. I'll give you a chance to watch it 49 times and we'll revisit in the future. I appreciate that. Obviously, throwing more punches would be key. I'd love to see him live and die with that jab, Luke. You know what I mean? I think there's ways to...

Getting off the ropes, dude. You gotta get off the ropes with this guy. You really do. Although Castaño did show us a lot more than we thought he had, so good stuff there. Alright, Luke. Two spins to go. Let's close this out with a bang. Come on, titty tattoos. Ugh.

All right, Luke, you know the fook I am. Luke, following a 65-second submission loss to Matus Gamrot on Saturday at UFC Fight Night, 35-year-old Jeremy Stephens fell to 0-5 with one no contest in his last six bouts. The Lil Heathen then took to Twitter, Luke, yesterday after the defeat and said, quote, Just thinking, the true fight to make is me and Conor. He broke his ankle and someone dove for my ankle. We both like to fight and keep it standing.

Both have power. Both are different. Plus, I like to calf kick and have a wide range of KOs. End quote. Luke, Conor and Jeremy obviously have had history dating back to that infamous who the fook is he rant from the press conference ahead of UFC 196 in 2016. And Luke, we all know Conor is in a very unique position once he does return from surgery and recovery, that with the exception of Misha Tate in the

Reynaud fight, the UFC almost never does, quote, get well or stay busy comeback fights. In fact, the only real reference we have is Conor himself when he was given the soft landing treatment a couple years ago by UFC Brass against faded, heavily washed Cowboy Cerrone. So Luke, although you and I have been openly pondering about who Conor might return against, we had said, hey, Tony Ferguson, Max Holloway, RDA, these are all good fights. If anyone is going to get the preferred matchmaking upon the comeback, it is Conor. We know this. So I'm going to give you four perspective quote soft touch opponents for mcgregor to return against let's say in early 2022 and i need you to rank these potential non-title pay-per-view main events in terms of difficulty one to four in terms of how outraged the public might be to get them one to four. And finally, in terms of potential pay-per-view buys

on that same one to four standard, your four potential Conor comeback fights are Jeremy Stephens, Mike Perry, Clay Guida, and Frankie Edgar at lightweight. Give me the choices again. Jeremy Stephens at lightweight. Mike Perry at welterweight. And Clay Guida and Frankie Edgar at lightweight.

Okay, you can cross Clay Guida off the list. I don't like that one at all. You can cross off Edgar as well. Well, rank them from one to four in difficulty, Luke. Hold on, I'm trying to think of who I like the most. I like the Perry fight the most, quite candid is kind of you know he's got his own difficulties um the build would be insane look the build would be bad shit my orga versus fernando vargas level insane yeah i like i like perry one even though the fight is silly and i do not i you know you're

only asking me among these choices rank them okay i'll go perry one i'll go stevens two i'll go edgar um i'll go edgar two i'll go stevens three i'll go guida four all right what's the most difficult for connor here you got to rank these i think um you could make a case that like edgar's the most difficult i think because he's still relevant at least i mean it's a 135 i don't know how it'd be at 155 but you know he doesn't take damage the same way so that's that's tough but on the plus side he obviously has a motor for days and he can wrestle and he can mix it up and he's constantly moving that could be potentially perilous for connor i don't think that it would be but But, you know, you're thinking out loud. Perry's not what he once was, but he can hammer.

You know, he's got a big punch. And, you know, he's fucking durable. He can wrestle. He wrestled the shit out of Cody. I'm sorry. Yeah, he might wrestle Conor a little bit, too. There's something to be said for that as well. And Stevens, for all the reasons you mentioned, huge punch.

Decent stand-up. You know, he gets hit a lot, but, uh, you know, when he's dealing, he's dealing. And then Guida, I don't, you know, Guida has a lot of things, but I just think Connor would land a big shot eventually and, and light them on fire. But, um, but you know, Guida's motor, uh, relentlessness sort of that, that would be, you know be something to watch out for. Would there be public outrage with any or all of these four matchups? I don't think there'd be outrage with Stevens. I think there'd be outrage at 170 versus Perry, because you'd be like, what are you taking that fight for?

It makes no sense. Greta, I think there'd be outrage for. The other two, not so much. Edgar, there might be head scratching, but not exactly outrage. And do you think they could all clear one million, Luke, pay-per-view wise? Do you think that there's one that would bottom out badly?

Guido would be a tough sell. Edgar could do it. Perry, maybe. Maybe. Stevens, probably. Yeah, I think those would be fine. All right, we'll see which direction the UFC goes. Luke, one more spin to take us home.

Let's go. Dude, it went to titty tattoos every time and then right past it this is bullshit seems like it's a rigged wheel or something luke death of palooza no luke this isn't the name of the new abortion rock festival that cannibal corpse is headlining yet this question is pretty damn morbid just the same with the world opening up again in the aftermath of the pandemic and most of us trying to ignore the rise of the delta variant, Luke. It's concert season, my friend. Every major act is already back on the road or largely preparing for a much-publicized tour.

Luke, not every concert experience is ideal, though. Anything from the venue to crowd behavior to how good or bad your seats are can affect the overall experience as a fan. Sometimes, in fact, things can get outright deadly. Luke, you and I weren't alive for the Altamont Free Concert from 1969 when the Hells Angels stabbed and killed a fan during a Rolling Stones set. But we did live as fans from a distance to witness three other major concert disasters.

Number one, February 20, 2003, at a tiny nut club called the station in west warwick rhode island 100 people died and 230 were injured i remember that dude i remember faulty pyrotechnics caused a fire during the great white show lighting flammable acoustic foam on the walls and sealing up and cooking almost everyone inside i remember still seeing on the news they had video of people trapped in the door jam itself who couldn't get out who were like pleading to like pull me out that was a horrible horrible horrible event one year later luke december 8th 2004 at the alrosa villa nightclub in columbus pantera league guitarist dimebag daryl was shot and killed on stage during a show

with his band Damage Plan. A very horrible night in rock history. You know Matt Brown was at that show, right? I did ask him about that in an interview once, Luke. That is wild. Super crazy. And finally, Luke, from July 22nd to July 25th, 1999 in Rome, New York, Woodstock 99

turned out to be an insane disaster of fires, looting, sexual assault, violence, rape. And in a newly reported development, Luke, that's part of a hook to preview this oncoming HBO documentary about the concert. It was found out that due to a water shortage, which we all knew about, the fans had broke into the water pipes meant for the sinks and bathrooms in order to open up water. And what we all knew about, the fans had broke into the water pipes meant for the sinks and bathrooms in order to open up water. And what it did, Luke, is it led to a large leak of shit. So Luke, all those visions we've seen from Woodstock 99 of people rolling around in the mud and sliding down, it has been in hindsight revealed that that was a mixture of raw sewage, water, and mud.

They were rolling around in shit on top of everything else awful that happened in that big time money scam called Woodstock 99. So Luke, given the disastrous turnouts of all three shows, the threat of death for everyone involved and the potential PTSD of emotional fallout of having been there, which show if forced to go back in a time machine and attend in the front row, would you most have rathered to be forced to attend

knowing that your safety in advance was not guaranteed? I'll go Woodstock 99. I remember where I was for that. So I was on temporary active duty at that time. And that weekend I had gotten Liberty and a bunch of Marines I was with at the time. We went to Palm Springs, shots to Palm Springs. And we just partied out there and got a hotel room and blah, blah, blah, blah. And I remember like we had beers in the tub.

That was a fun time. That was a fucking fun time. I don't know if we showered, but we had beers in the tub, BC, fun time that was a fucking fun time i don't know if we showered but we had beers in the tub bc filled with ice it was fucking great and uh luke what now i could get choosing that because one if you're gonna have a death defying concert experience at least have a good lineup of acts that was a loaded show two you already know there's a chance to get shot or burned to death and the other two but luke you all have gone there had to sleep out in insanely hot summer weather have to pay like 10 bucks for a water bottle and find out after the fact that you moshed and rolled around in your actual shit luke this is uh and you could have got burned luke when they when they rioted

so this is interesting i mean to be clear there isn't a chance in hell I would have gone to any of those shows and I didn't but I remember watching on stage and even when he died recently you could see the video from it just to be able to see a prime DMX totally in command of his game at that time having a crowd that size in the palm of his hand um you know and the place was big enough where you you know if you were clever enough like me i think you could have avoided most of the feces i guess i don't know but i'll say this man that was like woodstock 99 was egregious and stupid and totally unnecessary it really had nothing to do with the first woodstock either in spirit or continuity of music or anything really it was just a cheap ploy but but if you just look at the fucking bands dude

that was like a 90s yeah you know we grew up in the 90s bc we went to high school in the 90s and whatnot man that was like jesus that was so perfect in terms of capturing the spirit of the time not just in rock but in rap as i mentioned i'll take a little bit of the risk that came with what woodstock 99 provided, given the payoff, although Limp Bizkit performed as well. At the peak of their fame, Luke. Yeah, but I'm not trying to get shot in Ohio or fucking burned to death in a great white show.

At a bare minimum, damage plan I like. I don't like damage plan all that much. And just to watch the great Dimebag Daryl just get fucking, you know, we're talking about one of the great metal guitarists of all time, just watch him get bucked to death in front of you, like,

ah, fuck that, I'm not into that. So I'll take my risks with the feces from the animals. You and Matt Brown could have been Eskimo bros for life, Luke. That would have been interesting. Again, here you're just making it weirdly sexual in a way

that has nothing to do with it. There's nothing sexual about that. That term could have multiple meanings. It doesn't, though. It doesn't. The word titty has a meaning. It doesn't mean the sandwich I'm going to eat later. Anyway, Luke, thank you for playing my stupid wheel game. That's it for the week. We do have one more segment, Luke. It's morningcombat at gmail.com

is our preferred email for all things pictures, artwork, whatever you got. this is your chance to be on our show and call the shots we call this thing fan submissions fan submissions we've got mail all right all right let's see let's see now hold on bc let me set this up for just a second because i've been shitting on the donks we love them but the few past few weeks bc we've been out here we've been grinding you and i've been traveling we've been doing playing mr mom while our wives are away and the submissions have not been there in the way that i've had hoped i'm hopeful that today is a bit of a rebound

yeah you're looking for gracie level submissions right here luke and i i know at least one person responded in an outrageously large way we'll find that out to close this segment but yeah let's go donks we challenge you let's see what you got we've got mail we've also got no more overwhelming amount of white male fans luke so here they are bruce and steve sliding in donks we have a problem what's up luke in bc hello from space center houston my brother steve steve is the one in the uh in the tank top luke his family came out to visit bruce in who's wearing the old school merch 1.0 green t-shirt and his family for the week wow shout out to these two um shout out to bruce in that luke he's gonna look at the guns look at the gun show i think he's been doing some curls

also bruce says for the first time ever after being apart for a long covet hall these two brothers will be enjoying m MK together thanks to vaccines because science! We don't miss an episode and love watching the show grow and evolve with the new content. Great stuff from 264 in Vegas. If you're ever in Houston, maybe we could meet up at the Space Center

and find Uranus together. Ha ha! P1 for life, Bruce and Steve. Luke, I'd look for Anuses with these two guys they're of our ilk okay this is why we need to take the mk desk on the road bro because we've got people like this all over north america that we could cater to yeah shout out to bruce they're getting his brother involved luke and little little uh little uh editorial there on on covet luke from from good old bruce it's really not though it. It's basic. It's just basic modern

medicine. There's nothing wrong with the vaccine. Go get it unless you're a fucking idiot. Well, most... Alright, we'll leave it there. We'll leave that there, Luke. Let's keep it going here. Doug says, I had to work on Friday and couldn't make it to the MK Live show, but here's a picture of my dad and I repping MK at the fight Saturday night.

How about next time you guys are in town having a live post show in Vegas? Thanks for all the content with all the BDE. You guys will be at 100K in no time. Luke, look at Doug's father. How about this, brother? Yes. Dude, that guy is an American hero.

How is the White House not putting the Presidential Medal of Freedom on this civilian? What a fucking winner he is. Doug's dad should have wore that shirt when he stormed the Capitol luke we would have been shouting him out this is great you know dude what would we do if there was like we joke about it can you imagine though like the dude who had his feet on like pelosi's desk you know and he had an mk shirt on i don't know why i don't know i'd be like i'd be sized for the promotion but kind of like worried about it too you know it would have been a thing luke your thoughts on doug repping this mk shirt to 264 i didn't see him in the building but that's fantastic no i didn't see him in the building either but i appreciate it both ways and uh glad father and son could have a good time together both at the fights and over the podcast itself. Good shit.

Hey, if we can get your dad on the show, Luke, we can break some subscription records. You'll never get my dad on the show. Luke, one of my favorite listeners, Antoine, who recently moved to Alaska. He sends me nature pics all the time. Luke in BC, sending more love from Alaska. Love the new merch. I got the bottle, the hippie hat, and the zip-up hoodie.

I didn't know we sold hippie hats. But knowing Alaska shipping, I only got my bottle in time hoodie i didn't know we sold hippie hats but knowing alaska shipping i only got my bottle in time i didn't get my bottle in time but i was able to take these when my mom came to visit love the content and can't wait to see you donks live someday much love antoine in alaska he says p.s my mom isn't that short i'm just 6 8 and 235 on my way to factory liver mma b, so watch out. Factory liver, that's a good one. They say for 680 stud.

Luke, your thoughts on Antoine? Remember he was that dude who took the picture on the beach in California with the MK shirt and then he moved up north? Yeah, I mean, he's on the run from the law up there in Alaska, but it looks beautiful, I have to say. Can you zoom in on that, Manish? Look at this husky fella. I like this.

This guy's great, Luke. He's always climbing mountains out there in beautiful Alaska. He sends me pictures of the local tail, Luke, that he's pulling, too. Yeah, he's got very nicely washed dungarees. Yeah, I think he works outside for a living. I don't know much about it.

No, he does. I'm being shitty, but he does. He clearly does. It looks like Prime Bill Walton there. Shout out to Antoine. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you for wearing our merch around the least populated state in the union besides Wyoming. All right. Luke William is sliding in here. For my fan submission, I rep the Donks merch 2.0 at a submission only

grappling competition and went to the podium twice wearing the shirt. I've been here since the first episode and I'm so excited to see what you all are doing. Congrats on the success. Keep up the good work. Also, if Luke gets back into BJJ, dibs on his first roll. Luke Williams coming for that ass, bro. Yeah, I mean the chance of me going

back is close to zero, but yes, I will reserve space for listeners. Hardcore listeners, no less. By the way, which one did you say it was sub only yeah sub only grappling tournament yeah um yeah that's that's the way it should be for some of these things so uh shouts to this gentleman great great fan shouts to him going up to the podium to win his medal with the mk uh fight club shirt on love that good for you

william you're good dude you fill that shirt out well by the way i can see you've been in the gym all right luke let's go over to lee he says greetings from taiwan just working out in my home gym listening to my favorite rap record 10 points to name the record i put the big weights on to impress luke sorry bc i love me some steely dan but it's not good workout music oh and my merch 2.0 hoodie arrived just in time for the tropical summer. Stay frosty, Lee. Luke, international shipping, it works, brother. Taiwan on. Taiwan is a great place.

He's got about, I'm going to guess, around 25 pounds total in his hands because he's got the Cambridge bar with the two and a halfers. I like those speakers, Luke. That's a decent setup stereo wise what rap album is that i can't make it out that's uh wu-tang end of the uh 36 chambers oh yeah of course of course okay he's got the turntable luke i like this guy all right he's got you know cable management needs some work but otherwise he's killing it do you think uh lee is uh turning around some high-quality poontang on that side of the world, Luke?

He might be. I don't know exactly how friendly the Taiwanese are to people who are not natively Taiwanese, but I dated a Taiwanese girl for a time, BC. How about that? Oh, hey. Oh, hey, Luke. Okay, look at this. Look at this.

I like it. All right, Luke, before I say something more inappropriate, let's keep it going. Look at this. Look at this. I like it. All right, Luke, before I say something more inappropriate, let's keep it going. Danny's here. He says, loving a bit of MK in the garden. Danny from the UK. Yes. Look at that dog, too, Luke.

That dog is killing the game right now. Black Lab or some kind of Black Lab-ish dog. By the way, the backyard setup looks pretty good. Yeah, the Brits love their backyard gardens, Luke. They love it. Do they? Is that a thing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time thing. looks pretty good yeah the brits love their backyard gardens luke they love it do they is that a thing yeah oh yeah big time big time thing you know they don't like most people with

backyards myself not included in that i mean brits usually have small backyards in these in these towns but they like jazz it up and grow shit there and put out planning they they tend to care i don't know maybe i'm just making shit up luke but i feel like i'm on to something here shout out to that dog there from danny uh luke i love that we got so much international flair you know me too i like that i agree i agree i agree we ever get fired and have to be on the run from our own country here luke we have we have a soft landing to go okay we'll come down there australia and uh take on the submission bros all right all right sounds good i love those guys okay yeah i like those guys all right luke timmy's here he says sorry it's a little late hope it makes the cut with love it's

timmy poo that is well done look is that the travis barker uh who's the kiss i know i wanted to hit them with a hockey stick when they were fucking doing this. I was like, will you two disgusting animals please not do this on a fucking broadcast? Look, you ever been on a Ferris wheel and you look over and two teenagers are going at it like this, Luke? And it's just like, it's a little gross. A little gross. If you're going to kiss in public, try not to look like you're trying to eat each other's faces, please, for the rest of us. It looks like he's trying to eat her soul, Luke. But the rest of us fucking trying to eat her soul luke but that's a well done meme just the same timmy uh jason's here with three submissions what's going on bc and luke jay from boston back for the second time this go around i'm paying my

respects to mk's love of hip-hop much respect to you bc for consistently adding in some timeless verses into your daily art number one first we have we have Bushwick Brian and the Ghetto Boys. Luke, I cannot tell you. Can we blow this up, Manege? I cannot tell you how much I love this because the Ghetto Boys' We Can't Be Stopped was one of the seminal albums of my largely commercial turn to hip-hop in the 90s.

Is that Willie G, the gangster of love on the left? Who's the other guy, Luke? Scarface on the right. Yes. Oh, love that shit. Look the right yes oh love that shit look at that i love that shit number two next we have the notorious l-u-k-e luke you gotta show some love to biggie's verses for the next dead wrong segment i always uh whenever we do the dead wrong i always rap the m&m uh part of the Eminem Biggie song. So I guess I have to step it up a little bit.

Yeah, yeah. Finally, Jason says, last but not least, I found out what y'all were really doing down in Miami during Mayweather. Paul, here is 2 Live Combat. Keep up all the great work. Me love you long time. Jason, that may have been racist, Luke, but I love you. As nasty as they want to be. God bless 2 Live Crew.

2 Live Crew was out there doing stuff like this before anyone really was. They're awesome. Luke, it was apropos that when you and I walked down to the ringside area, which we did not stay long at because of that torrential downpour, which then fried my laptop, the name tag on the table said Luke Campbell, Morning Combat. It did. It did say that.

Yes. What can I say? Uncle Luke in the house. All right. Roger says, no picture, just a question. Hey, guys. My wife and I are big fans of the show. We watch MK all day.

We had planned to be in Vegas for your live show and would have loved to come see it, but we had to cancel our trip. My wife came down with a medical condition, a.k.a condition aka being pregnant we are doing a gender reveal in a couple weeks as you can see by my email my last name is slice i am a longtime hardcore mma fan as is my wife if it is a boy i am pushing hard for the middle name to be kimbo so the middle and last name would be kimbo slice what do you guys think of that? I feel like it's almost too perfect. I currently have my wife at a level of serious consideration. Maybe you two can push her over the edge for me. Keep up the good work. Look forward to getting

your two cents. First, Luke, you should tell Roger why he should abandon the gender reveal idea, right? Yeah, it's a made up thing for no fucking reason. Your gender reveal idea right yeah it's a made-up thing for no fucking reason your gender reveal should happen with your doctor in a private office and not with exploding fucking fireworks or rube gold work domino experiments quit finding reasons to party you want to go party just have a fucking party but like you know oh we're gonna have a gender reveal what the fuck is that if gender what do you think about those greedy people who have engagement parties your gift is the your spouse bro okay congratulations you got engaged i'm gonna go to your wedding i'm gonna spend a lot of money at your wedding what do you mean no people have engagement parties in which they invite everyone they know over and those people

like laud them with money aren't they oh that's insane yeah that's insane that's insane yeah like that's that's double dipping listen you gotta if you're gonna do wedding gifts right you gotta come up off your pockets a little bit it's about 150 a person is the sort of standard way to do it in los estados bonitos okay fine well i guess i'm as cheap as i am as a tipper in a restaurant luke i was not following dude you're not a good tipper which is a shock to me you're terrible at it which i can't believe i'm trying to change my ways. It's not that I disrespect the service industry. I've just never had money, Luke.

Now it's like I just used to be in a dirt hole. So, yeah, let me put a little respect on those. But, yeah, like, dude, you're double dipping. I think bridal showers are okay. Or, you know, if someone's going to have a baby, a baby shower is fine. Obviously, a wedding is perfectly okay. But all that other shit is just people trying to get their friends and neighbors to, you know, float their life. No, save your money, fuckface.

And if you want to have a party, have a party. Quit doing fireworks and fucking exploding tricks because your kid either has a dick and balls or doesn't. All right, what do you say to Roger Slice, who's him and his wife are watching this right now. Shout out to them being great MK and great MMA fans. Should they consider the middle name Kimbo in this case, Luke? Are they setting their child up for disaster? Like when kids name their sons King or something like that, I'm like, oh, come on.

He's probably going to be a dirt hole now. He's probably going to be a panhandler. Listen, if you want to see your kid with his feet up onosi's desk and then bail him out under federal indictment or whatever yeah by all means give him a middle name kimbo if you'd like him to have a normal life give him a normal name how about data yes give him a normal name like data 5000 or whatever the fuck it was um what what should can you do you have another MMA-related name? I guess you can have another one because his last name's Slice. There's really no going back from this.

It's not like you can say, yeah. And don't do something stupid like, oh, my middle name's Orange. Like, oh, fuck. Quit this. We don't know Roger's makeup. I mean, we can guess he's a white male. But what if he's such an MMA fan that they decide to give their son, let's say it's a boy.

They're like, all right, we love MMA so much. Here's's our boy it may be spelled roger but we pronounce it hodger are they are they portuguese are they brazilian or something no they're just some white mma fans luke is that okay or i mean is that okay i mean i wouldn't do it. Don't pronounce it Sade. It's Sade, Luke, okay? All right? Don't. In fact, this is Roger. This guy's name is Roger, so maybe he names his kid Roger Jr., but never pronounce the ZR, Luke.

It's possible, all right? It's possible. It's possible. All right, finally, Luke, I hyped this up at the beginning. You tell me if I got this wrong. Do you remember a fellow from Stockton, California named Damien, who had, really, I'm going to have to get a psychologist involved, the scariest tattoos on his body I've ever seen

yet, is a three-needle brethren with myself, and is a P1 fan of this game. Here's his message. Revelry revelry donks. It's Damien from Stockton. And today I am fired up. Today I got the BDE. No, I didn't visit GetRoman.com. Even better, today I made history by getting the first ever morning combat tattoo.

My abuela was not happy with me getting another tat, but I told her I love MK like family, except in this family there are no divorces. I don't mesh with any other show the way I do MK. I love the energy from BC, my Three Needles brethren, and Professor Salt-N-Pepa. I look forward to MK almost as much as the fights. What can I say? I'm a proud donk. Keep up the great content, or I

may have to come to storm the Room Service Diaries episode and spice it up a bit. Stay frosty. Damien from Stockton. Luke, I don't even know what to say, and I'm not kidding here. This guy on a viable part of his body just put us on there. Luke.

Forever. Forever, Trevor. I mean, yo, Damien, shout out, bro. I mean, Luke, you're speechless. What are you going to say right now? What do you say? The thumb is a little jacked. Oh, come on.

Don't you... Look, I mean... You're like, I would have preferred if he went to Mr. He-Boss's tat. Now, look, you would say, despite the scary nature of his tats, his artwork's pretty good, right, Damien? Yes, in general. And in general, this is fine. The thumb is a little bit messedats, his artwork's pretty good, right, Damien? Yes, in general. And in general, this is fine. The thumb is a little bit messed up,

but it's fine. Oh, come on, Luke. Well, I don't think it's the end of the world or anything. I just think the tip of the thumb is a little bit off. But in general, what I would say is that doesn't matter at all. And what is a bigger takeaway, and in all seriousness here at BC,

is this is what I mean, man. It's like, dude, why does the 100,000 subscriber count matter? On some level, it's just an arbitrary number that they just picked that you get a prize for. But the thing that it says to me is it's like, dude, it's not even about the pieces of work that you did. It's about the audience. It's about that you have a relationship with the audience that obviously matters to enough of them to count in some kind of a significant number this is evidence of that dude we got literal fucking fans getting tattoos of our logo before even we did i

mean it just tells you this guy has lost his mind a little bit, but also that we have a pretty special connection with our fans. Dude, Damien, like, thank you, Luke. I feel like we got to get this guy on the show. Like, we got to get him on like a live Zoom right now. I mean, Luke, I don't even know what to say. I mean, that's forever, Luke, right there. And it looks great. And our logo is luckily cool.

You can talk about that thumb all you want. But, Luke, I'm almost, like, afraid and embarrassed. I don't want to tarnish the MK brand so that he doesn't have to explain this the rest of his life. Oh, you know, oh, hey, Damien, what's that on your bicep? Oh, yeah, there was that show. They molested kids in the end, but there was that show I used to watch. You know, I don't want anything bad to happen to us now, Luke, because, wait, what am I talking about? Damien's got tattoos that can make people turn around and run in the other direction maybe maybe we're fine on his body

luke it's uh it's a testament to what we're building bc it's a testament to who the fans are and their sacrifice for us but it's also a testament to the kind of community i think that we're fostering here crazy ones in all seriousness what's the scariest of his tattoos the fact that he put us on there or the fact that he has a baby with devil horns held by the pope or that he has a young girl hung to death on his chest. Luke, your thoughts. Yeah, a demonic pope, not even a normal pope. I would say that the young little girl being hung from a tree on his chest is disturbing. Can you imagine taking your shirt off, trying to get laid and like the girl sees that or

even to do it might help him luke you know some girls like like edge you know they like spice they like the guy from the other side of the tracks you know this guy damien's hardcore bro okay and by the way if you need to know who this was in that famous now they're now famous luke it's almost like a it should be a painting or something of you and i celebrating at the end of the live show he was the guy between us taking down the shotgun and that beer, Luke. Fantastic. Yes, he is a committed P1, BC. That's what they call him in radio, P1.

What do you think this says to guys like Dick Holtz, guys like the great, the freaking great Web Scream, who I have his art behind me. Shout out to the birth and growth of your son, Web Scream. We love you over there in Italy. What does this say to the defending champion fans of this show, Luke? Step your game up. The bar has been raised, ladies and gentlemen.

This is now the new standard this is the gold standard in mk donkery fandom i mean why don't you get luke until i see your name tattooed on some guy's dick no one's beating this you're looking at a lot of dicks for my tattoo i search all our viewers just to check see how hardcore they are, Luke. Okay? If you got a big meh, MK will search it. All right, bro? Okay? Wow. Seriously, Damien. Luke, how do we end this show? I mean, that guy's a brother for life.

We love this man. That's pretty incredible, I have to say. That's amazing. What do you think about you and me going to Stockton, we call up Damien, and then we hang out and we do MK After Hours, you know, no THC minimums with the Diaz brothers, and we just bro out.

Room service diaries with Damien and the Diazes, Luke. That'd be pretty special. Although he's, I don't know if I want to spend that much time with him. What can I say, dude? I'm a misanthrope. I mean, I am what I am, dude. You know this about me. You know this. I am what I am, bro.

I am. All right. Well, that's it for us today. Great show. Great Wheel of Death. Great fan subs. Appreciate all of them. Keep sending them in if you want to do that.

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If not, you can go do something else. And we got merch, BC. You go to MorningCombat.store. Worldwide shipping now available. Oh, and your interviews. Ostovich, Dillilla shaw who else you got coming out bc i got aspen lad today should be fun i've already got anti-vax emails bc people like bragging to me that i'll never get the vax yeah because you're a fucking idiot that's why okay luke well i i don't disagree with you but okay

that's that's a harsh response uh luke um and i forgot what i was gonna say it probably wasn't important at all oh you you did an interview with a poor with poirier's guy you're not promoting it at all uh yeah i know i didn't mean to not do that i i sent it around all my social outlets but uh yeah i had a talk with uh phil derue phil derue is the head trainer or performance coach whatever you want to say of uh dustin Poirier. Many people, including the famed producer Tim Baland. He's done incredible work with him.

And we talked about not just BC Poirier's performance and what they were expecting and what they might be expecting a little bit with Oliveira. But also I asked him about McGregor coming back from the injury and to what extent he's trained people with those kinds of fairly, I mean, that's a traumatic injury that he had and what that's been like and how he would approach it. And so tons of good stuff in there. Phil is very accomplished, very smart, very interesting guy. So I strongly recommend you guys check that out. Timbaland and Magoo guy from back in the 90s, Luke?

That's him, yes. That's him, Timbaland. Remember he did that, they did that song with that chick what was her name she's real hot Luke Maya Maya right oh by the way we got it wrong Puna Puna Hale Soriano is not coconut bombs that's Maki Patola we got that wrong all right sorry all Hawaiians do not they fight

alike though Luke they don't look like they fight alike I love their their tough bastards but no they do they deserve to have the names that have been given to them all right BC that's it for you and me so thanks to Malka CBS Sports and Showtime for the King of Connecticut Brian Campbell I'm Luke Thomas back tomorrow with the live chat and then Friday going to get you ready for all the weekend's fights don't go anywhere and until next time may all of your gains be loyal. We'll be right back. We'll see you next time.