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Episode Date: March 25, 2025MK returns to break down all the latest from the combat sports world. At UFC London, Sean Brady made a statement by dominating Leon Edwards and securing a submission victory. He won the first three ro...unds on all judges' scorecards before stuffing Edwards' desperation takedown and finishing the fight. Was this a sign of Brady’s evolution into an elite contender, or is Edwards continuing his decline from the title picture? They also take a closer look at the state of the welterweight division and what this result means for the future of 170 pounds. Over in ONE Championship, Rodtang delivered a brutal KO against Takeru in their flyweight kickboxing superfight. Plus, the guys pay tribute to the legendary George Foreman following his passing over the weekend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Update on your future at all this this weekend?
Can we talk about that?
Not yet. Not yet.
All right. All right.
Well, you're going to have to wait and see what's going on here in the life of Luke.
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And have you seen this ish to close today's broadcast?
I have a funny story.
So I took Tukey bike riding through the neighborhood
the other day, or yesterday as a matter of fact.
And
You walking while she's riding with training wheels.
I'm riding in the street, she's riding on the sidewalk.
With training wheels.
With training wheels.
And then we get on the bike path
and then we're pretty much fine after there after.
And we stopped along the way to get a smoothie.
Yes. Okay, we sat down said she got a great dad moment.
All right.
It was amazing.
Like my dad bringing me to 7-eleven on the motorcycle and
we got hot dogs and slurpees.
Yeah.
So we so she loves this smoothie place.
So we stop and she gets a smoothie and I get a smoothie and
they're about this tall.
It's thin at the bottom, but they're about this tall and I
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I go.
This is the one you ordered.
This one is mine.
She goes to grab the one that she orders and spills it and it spills all of the smoothie immediately
all over the table so your challenge do I flip out like I want to I didn't flip
out I didn't flip out but I was like we were go we got to be careful okay yes
and then when I sat down she goes can I have a taste of yours I said yeah sure
please tell me she spilled it she spilled it all over the fucking table and
there's there's people being like looking around like trying to get, dude, when I say it spilled,
I mean it was like a tidal wave
of just fucking smoothie everywhere.
So I had to go buy two smoothies
and I drank neither of them.
There it is, that's parenting.
That's parenting 101.
Made a good time on the bikes though.
That's what Sean Kemp and Antonio Cromartie go through
with their 14 kids. I mean, that's what it is. A lot of smoothies just getting dumped on
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Let me, let me do one thing.
So we'll use this to steer us in.
Well, Luke, did you hate UFC London?
Cause I want to raise my hand here and say, I didn't hate it.
And in fact, I don't quite necessarily get the pushback that the event got.
I mean, I get some of it.
Well, I think it's related to overpriced tickets and not putting your best British stars out
there.
Fine.
No problem.
But in general, as an event to watch, I found myself not necessarily in tune with some of
the criticism. What did you make of it?
I agree people were saying that during my watch along they were like this card sucks
And I was like maybe just cuz I'm live right now enjoying watching the fight. I thought it was a great card
Not great maybe but I but THC goes pairs well with bad and I was sober so there I mean there
But I didn't hate it. I really didn't I rewatched most of it
I did not hate it
But I do understand the direction that the sport,
the quality levels going, the ticket. All that matters.
Ticket prices were insane and all the British, well not all, but most of the British donks got worked.
There were a lot of empty seats. There were people leaving early.
It was kind of weird. You don't see that normally.
Well blame Leon Edwards for that, buddy.
Well, we're about to do that.
Hey, let's get into topic number one from the weekend.
That was UFC London was a loaded on paper,
a plus fight night card, if you will, and it was really built upon the shoulders of that beautiful
welterweight main event for title positioning as former champion Leon Edwards in his first bout.
Since dropping the belt to Bilal Muhammad last year, welcomed a rebirth, aggressive, tattooed,
and absolutely jacked up in hungry Philadelphia's own Sean Brady and what we saw at the end was
Domination as the former champ Edwards
Tapped out via fourth round submission
So Luke not only did Brady win the first three rounds on all three scorecards
Not only did he stuff that desperation takedown attempt from Leon in round three that I'm sure we'll talk about
He goes on to a dominant one-sided victory
But we got to ask this question here.
What percentage of this was due to Brady evolving
into an elite, legitimate title contender?
And how much of this result was Edward's
self-imposed continued freefall in the minds of most MMA fans
where everyone's talking more about,
it seems, what Edwards didn't do
than maybe what Brady did.
How do you juggle that comparison
and the percentages there?
If we assume that the two main contributors
to the result are just that,
some degree of Brady really crystallizing his game
and some degree of Edwards simply not doing that,
we have to assign like a pie chart proportion.
Sure.
I'm gonna say it's around 70-30 in favor of Brady. That's what I'm gonna say. I like pie charts, proportion. Sure. I'm gonna say it's around 70 30 in favor of
Brady. That's what I'm gonna say. I like pie charts by the way. Hair pie. Hair pie. Yeah.
So I think I'm gonna give about 70% that's debatable. That's just an
estimate but I think that understand something. I went back and I reached
while I watched this fight like I'm sure many people did or at least have some
impressions about it and I went back and I'll have a breakdown later on my sub stack, but
dude, Sean Brady is, can we just say this? Sean Brady had a unequivocal breakout performance, a home run, on-set home run, maybe not a grand slam, but a clear home run. He has gotten so much
better where I give credit to Leon, some of the, was some
of the best things that he did. Really the only good thing that he did, I thought was
counter striking as, as the blitzing was happening from Sean Brady. But short of that, he didn't
really do anything. However, what I would say is on the ground, obviously we already
know what the story is on the feet. Sean Brady looked pretty good there too. Landing good
crosses and swivel jabs through combination. But again, assigning proportion of like what explains the result.
There is simply no denying Sean Brady's ground game.
And I'm going to say this, his top half game, it's either the best in MMA or
certainly at a bare minimum on the short list for some of the best in MMA.
You could put Islam Makachev potentially number one in that role. certainly he's doing unbelievable stuff. But this fight to me was such
a clear demonstration BC of how thorough and complete not just his grappling game is, but the
center of it, the nucleus, that top half and he could play top half top reverse half, you can call
reverse Kesik Atami, there's a bunch of of different names or similar set of positions. He is absolutely
dominant. And once he begins to pull you into that rinse cycle, buddy, you're getting rinsed.
Make no mistake about it. It's one of the, I honestly think it's if not the best top half game in MMA,
it is certainly on the short list. And BC, you saw that come to life. Dude, and I want to say this,
everyone's like, oh, he's big and he's strong. Yes, he is. And for Leon, we'll talk about Leon
in a second BC. For Leon to say he was going to have a strength advantage now just looks so fucking
comically out of touch. You can barely even know what to say about it.
But the reality to me, beyond Leon overestimating himself is that people are
wrong when they say Sean Brady is, well, he's this big gorilla.
Yeah, he is.
He is highly technical, highly technical.
When you watch these sequences BC where underneath Leon's going for half guard
and he's trying to avoid mount and then he's trying to scramble and Sean is there every step
of the way either to ride it or to stop it. Total mastery doesn't make any positional mistakes. Not
one, not one positional mistake through four or three plus rounds of the whole thing.
Yeah, did Leon Edwards fuck up real badly in this fight and potentially, I think this
stage of his career?
Yeah, I think he did and we'll talk about it.
But that was an unenviable task to go up against this version of Sean Brady, a gorilla with
high grappling IQ.
That's a tough bastard.
I mean, this was a full bloom moment because what did I say coming in where I was
leaning Leon?
I said, if this becomes a fight with striking on the feet, I'm going to have to see a
growth from Sean.
That first round was close, but I scored it for Sean, not just because of that trip
take down at the end, but I think he did level up his striking.
I loved how tight his combinations were.
He came off off the opening bell throwing overhand rights and there was
poise, there was movement to him. It wasn't the same guy obviously that got
picked apart strike after strike by Bilal leading to the stoppage loss.
And who has he been since then? Determined, motivated, explosive, so many
adjectives but the motivation part matters too. Did you see him after the
win going right up to the cage thanking Dana and Hunter for giving him this
opportunity? He left his newborn daughter behind, flew out on short notice and look at the condition he came in.
Look at the dominance. This fight changed in round two when three seconds in he took Edwards down and never let him back up.
The body language on Leon Edwards walking back to the corner after round two said it all.
That was the beginning of the end for him.
So I know that we're going to kind of dunk on Leon and boy,
is MMA Twitter dunking on Leon.
Oh my God.
And you can argue if it's rightfully so.
We're going to do all that.
But dude, Shawn Brady put him in that spot in round two and
seemed to just pull out of him the will, the stamina, the
everything.
Leon was a completely different fighter after that.
If you get, if you're on your back for four minutes and 57 seconds, that can certainly change a fight to your point about top position. Sean Brady was dominant. He looked like a title contender on this afternoon.
Dude, he he washed the former champion washed him. I mean, that fight was close in the first round. Fine. It was close. I mean, you could score whatever way you want. It was close. And then not at all for any point thereafter.
From thereafter, it was one-way traffic. It was a steamrolling.
I just feel like, you know, Sean Brady got a little bit, a little bit,
he got a lot criticized after the loss to Bilal Mohammed,
in part because what we now realize, people were sleeping on Bilal Mohammed.
We didn't realize how good his hands had gotten.
Again, I'm not comparing him to Canelo, but I'm saying certainly massively improved. And
obviously what we saw in the grappling and the wrestling department, he was shutting
down Sean Brady thereafter. We were like, oh, Sean Brady kind of fell apart on the big
stage. There was a lot of that going around. And it turns out, well, listen, he didn't
have his best night that night. Of course. He picked up the pieces, dude. He picked him
up and then some Dean Thomas and all the guys and that team have really we has really
Turned a corner and dude, you know, there's there's actually an interesting question in my mind
Can this like after this fight people were like how would Sean Brady's ground game match up with Shavkat and then Shavkat and Bilal?
And then what about a rematch with Sean and all and I don't know the
Answers to any of those questions because I don't know how he matches up
Exactly with Bilal at this point. I've said we saw the first fight, but you'll see what goes going forward
It would be competitive and we'll get to that topic too. Fair enough
But if you're not on that level, oh buddy
You're gonna get found the fuck out against a guy like this. And Leon Edwards got absolutely or least metaphorically speaking, undressed by that.
Look, as we shift the conversation slowly from Sean to Leon,
I'm not sure I've ever seen a situation where an entire sport turned on a fighter as quickly as they have on Leon over the past two fights.
And this coming from a guy who didn't believe him on the way up and was sort of like,
can we just get him his title defense or his title opportunity so we can get him out of here, and he won me over and he did that
But as quickly as he won over the sport it's turned on him
Let's show some of these pieces first is this Sean Bradley Sean Brady. Sorry show our IP Sean Bradley go birds go birds
Here's Sean Brady on Instagram with his full team here
so
You see Sean Brady in the middle with his extended handout.
They're making fun in the comments of headshot dead and Sean saying
y'all don't even got guns in London.
I mean, this is just full on donk hang on the rim teabag in the
face.
Now, let's go to Brady at the post fight presser going a little
bit deeper about where Bilal went wrong.
You mentioned in the build-up that probably wasn't wise for
Leon to be talking about Bilal so much. I know the media were asking Leon about Bilal
What did you make of it now? Do you feel that Leon may have been overlooking you more thinking about getting revenge himself?
Yeah, I think he was too worried about Bilal. He was too worried about how tall I am
He was too worried about a bunch of other things that didn't matter.
And yeah, as showed tonight, he got smoked.
So he should have been more focused on this fight.
He hit me with a nice elbow.
I blocked his kicks.
Yeah, he didn't.
Leon likes to be like a pretty, he's like a pretty striker.
You can't, he likes to have his range and have things go on his terms
and once they start going off his terms, he does dumb shit like shoot on me
and then it goes downhill from there.
That's kind of the key to the win.
He never let Leon operate in a comfortable middle range position to get his kicks off.
He was just in his face the whole time.
So he did in some ways kind of take the ball blueprint, adapt it to his own skills. And it was beautiful.
It was a great thing to watch. In fact, we've got a section of tweets here from ball all
who had a field day. He had a lot on Twitter, buddy. You can see there. It says a headshot
dead. It says Sean copied my homework. Yeah. Leon's gonna need a big motivational speech this round
Just how good is Balal Mohammed?
Leon's still on 5 a.m. Time zone. Don't let him bully you son. And what time is it in London asking for Lee?
So let me ask you based on what we just saw here the critical question
Is this the beginning of the end for Leon? Is this just who Leon is or is Leon as an elite fighter already over? How do you read from?
Yes, he got dominated, but there seems to be some self-implosive
Tendencies in terms of his confidence level which needed that famous fifth round speech to wake him up against Usman
He'll never wear a title again. He'll never wear a title again. I can say that with totally not even the the the
PFL's pay-per-view super fight title?
Sorry, sorry.
A UFC title.
I apologize.
Yes, a UFC title.
I have seen people go so far as to say Leon was never good, which I really don't agree
with.
That's not true.
He is good.
No, watch the Usman rematch.
Watch the Covington Fire.
He's good.
I mean, that to me is going too far.
But the reason people are dunking, I think, is a couple of them. There's a couple of
people, there's a couple of, let's back up, why are people dunking so hard? One explanation could be
a lot of people were like, he salvaged himself in that rematch with Kamara Usman in the fifth.
Short of that, where is he? This kind of question, like he kind of luck boxed his way into that.
Oh yeah, can we show that meme to accompany your statement right there? Please. Show the fast food meme?
People are saying this is who Leon, and there's a lot of these, they're saying this is who
Leon would have been without the head kick.
Right.
Which is so far past what we should be talking about, but it's feeding into what you're saying
right now.
I'm not here to declare that's a valid perspective, as much as I'm to say it's a fairly commonish
one, but the other one to me is much stronger, which is,
okay, again, one more time fighting Balal Muhammad. You already had to face a bunch of wrestlers in
close succession, you had to face another one. Granted, it was at 5am. He might have had some
other issues with camp. Lord knows he had many of excuses after that fight BC. He fails to perform.
And then we come back around this time and he's saying things like I'm
stronger than Sean Brady.
If I fought Bilal 10 times, I'm going to win nine of them.
It looked to me like he learned absolutely nothing from the
Bilal Muhammad loss other than a series of bad circumstances affected him.
Rather than yes, those were difficult circumstances.
Fighting at five in the morning has to suck, right?
That has to suck.
At the same time, to me, the bigger lesson was Bilal was simply better than him.
And there were real problems with his grappling, the kind of grappling that
he had gotten used to for Komaru and Colby was totally insufficient against
the guy who's got more updated modern game.
And I think the kind of guy who can do a little bit more mat wrestling.
Well, Sean Brady is that times 10, not the same kind of wrestler, but on the mat domination.
Once you are dragged down there, dude, look what he can do.
And to have such an arrogant, fighters are confident, but I'll tell you what BC,
everybody knows like when George
St. Pierre was around, I remember there'd be time after time after time where he would
like big up the guy who he was fighting.
And yeah, of course that was partly promotional, but partly Bushido, partly Bushido also that,
but also what I, and you know this to be true at the time, but the older you get, the more
you really realize how important it is. These champions who it feels like sometimes are forcing humility into their perspective,
and maybe it is forced, but it's forced out of necessity for success at longevity.
Right.
In order to be good over the expanse of your career, you have to over prepare for your opponent,
not be like, I'll get by.
That's the thing.
And you had these concerns pre-fight and I'm like, dude, this guy's only 33.
He was pound for pound last year saying bullshit after his loss to below
your fears of his excuses actually turned out to be right.
I got to give you that.
I mean, and again, I'm going to say it was fighting Sean Brady and easy task.
Of course it was not right, but all the more reason to take it seriously, all the
more reason to look at the Bilal fight and be like, there might be some lessons I need
to learn here. And of course, I know he accepted on short notice was supposed to be Jack Dale
and Madelena and that turn of events probably didn't do him any favors. But Sean Brady took
it a day after his daughter was born at a bare minimum the day after he left the hospital
on short notice. And BC, can we spend a moment in time?
Talking about him shooting in that third round. I mean, please stop
I had to stop acquiring sound of people dunking on him because I had too many pieces for this show
But Brady went on a rant against it being like that's the most like that's a stupidest decision. I've ever seen in there. Okay
Go to UFCStats.com. Okay? UFCStats.com. And they'll tell you all the stats that they measure
over the fighter's career and individually in a round and in a fight. These include things like
knockdowns, takedowns, strikes that landed, strikes that were attempted, reversals, subs, control time,
you name it. BC. I could make one argument that shooting on him
is just dumb as shit no matter what, right?
Because I know people are like,
oh, he did it against Kimura,
he did it against all these guys.
Usually to quite poor effect,
he had that one trip where he landed in Mount,
but he didn't do anything with it, with Kimura.
Like it looks nice, but what was the functional value?
Oh, so you're a wrestler now.
Right, but the point being is,
those guys don't have the same kind of submission or mat
wrestling and mat control that Sean Brady has, and you might say, well, how
would he's, you know, how could you be so sure guys go to UFC stats.com in the
second round of this fight in every single category that the stats providers use to measure what happens in a round, Leon
Edwards had zero in literally every single one.
BC, it's not that he didn't land a strike, he didn't even throw one.
Because he was on the ground for four minutes and 57 seconds.
Right.
So my point being is you get fucking
Blanked like that in round two and then in round three you have the audacity to shoot on this guy
So is this what I mean his arrogance about a totally disconnected from his actual ability relative to his opponent
Bit him in the ass big time, But was this more? All time bad judgment.
Sorry, BC.
Well, comparing all time bad judgment, was this more or less desperate than Conor shooting
on Nate in round two at UFC 197?
Much more desperate.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
No, no.
That was desperate because in Conor's case, he was exhausted.
He needed a break.
Yeah, he needed a break.
He was exhausted.
He kind of fell into it.
And that's the other part too.
It wasn't even a good shot. It wasn't even a good shot. Dude, that is one of the worst decisions I
have ever seen an elite prize fighter make. I don't know why he did it. People can speculate.
You can decide what his motivation is. I can't mind read. What I can say is, if you're trying to
win, that's the worst thing you could have possibly done.
And another reason why folks may not appreciate this, he had all of round two to get a feel for
what a guy like Leon's going to do. What escape is he going to try when I go for this pass,
when I lean this way, you get a feel for someone's defense. And when there's that much difference between someone's grappling ability and they begin to get a feel for your
defense, rounds over, new round starts, dude, they're going to carve through you much quicker
the next time. And you gave it to him. And you gave it to him.
It wasn't like as bad in my opinion as the Weidman mistake that led to him losing the
title to Rockhold or some of these others. That's a bad one.
Steve Erseg late in that fight.
That's a bad one too.
Gastelum after he hurt Adesanya in round four shooting for that takedown.
You remember that?
That's a bad one as well.
There's been a few of those moments.
It was a bad moment and it's playing into what we're saying the whole MMA world right
or wrong, maybe wrong.
Like it's aggressive.
Man, people are like, let's get this guy out of the sport now.
So I do feel for Rocky because
we a lot of us overlooked him on
the way up. Then he got here.
And now it's like he was never
there to begin with.
That's the sport.
He was the guy to take out the
previous generation of elite
welterweight. Yes, he took out
Camaro. He took out Colby.
But guys like Bilal and Sean,
they have a different kind of
grappling game for which he is
quite clearly woefully
unprepared.
So he was a transitional champion ultimately in a lot of ways.
Which is important and again, it's not a question of is he a good fighter?
He is a good fighter, which makes this decision, frankly in my mind, all the more indefensible.
But if you're good and you know, he should have confidence in his abilities.
The confidence comes from doing the work necessary to handle the
respective challenges, not from just these guys are scrubs because
I don't take them seriously and that inability to to differentiate
between those two things cost him dearly in this fight unquestionably
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Dads of you know people like you the late Kobe Bryant. It's really changed their life
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It's genuine right there, okay, it's like a real-life moment shut up I get to buy my daughter some stuff when I get home. Let's go. Back to UFC.
That's genuine right there.
Okay. It's like a real life moment.
Shout out to the, you know, like Tukey's going to get new shoes, right?
That's what it's all about.
I exchanged very briefly some DMs with him this weekend.
I love that man.
He's a very, very, very quality individual, happy for him.
Let's go into topic number two.
And it really is surrounding maybe what could be next for Sean Brady.
Let's hit it.
The state of welterweight in the UFC.
I don't know. I'm starting to feel like this is the deepest division in the sport.
There's a lot going on. A lot of potential contenders.
So Luke, Sean Brady's performance does have the potential to wreak havoc at the top
in this title picture of what right now, like I said, might be among the deepest.
Two-part question here. Let's go with number one first.
A lot of people talking about it. Sean Brady based on this performance be allowed to
leapfrog an injured slash inactive Shavkat Rachmanov to
get the first shot at the winner of Bala Muhammad and
Jack Delamandelina.
If it is such the case that by the time that that fight, when I say that fight, I mean
the welterweight title fight rotation, you know, three to four months, five months or
so, somewhere around that, maybe even six.
If Shavkat is not ready and cannot be available on that timeline, yes, he should.
Now, if Shavkat is ready, I'm less inclined. That win over Leon, I mean, if you think about it...
I mean, you have a bone air for Shavkat. Let's just put it out there.
Well, here's the deal. He was supposed to get the title shot.
Yes.
It got taken from him by no fault of his own.
And he still fought Ian Gary on like an hour's notice.
And he still fought Ian Gary. And again, that is, that fight was not,
I mean, that win is not even remotely as impressive.
I mean, let's just be clear.
Sean Brady's win over Leon is better than any win Shavkat has. That's just a fact. But guys,
the reality is the sport moves very quickly. It's not necessarily all that surprising that
another surging contender put together something impressive while another guy is sitting on the
sidelines. That's simply the nature of what happens during injury timeouts. And I don't
mean in the middle of a fight. I mean like a timeout in your career.
Other guys just keep the train moving
and then all of a sudden you're like,
whoa, I'm kind of behind here.
I get it.
My point being is he was already in that position.
I feel like we have to do right by him, but BC.
Yeah, say it.
BC.
Say it.
Are you rapping right now?
I'm so animated because we got so many guys who I either like their style of fighting,
I like them as people, a combination of both.
What about Shavkat if it comes to it?
If it comes to it, Shavkat versus Sean Brady, a boner from here to motherfucking Hanover.
And what's crazy is a year ago, we thought we'd be sending Sean Brady to the butcher shop in that fight, right?
A year ago.
Dude, Sean Brady, if he gets on top of anybody in that division, can submit him.
There's nobody in that division once it gets to the ground.
Now, of course, taking below down, not going to be easy,
but if it gets to the mat, he can submit any welterweight on the planet.
About that, I am sure.
Guys, he had a match.
They had handicapped some of the rules, BC, around leg locks.
Sure.
But he went up against Craig Jones and beat him.
Sean Brady?
Yes.
Now again, they handicapped the rules about leg locks.
It's not a claim that he's actually better than Craig Jones,
but it is to say he's pretty fucking competitive.
Yeah.
He's pretty competitive.
Dude, he doesn't make positional mistakes.
That's the kind of grappler you're dealing with so we're in the middle of March Madness BC
You could do JDM and Bilal on one side of the bracket
Shavkat and Sean Brady on the other now again. It's a function Gary mad. It's a
How was he in Gary lost I get it he was in this car
He's already upset that Jack that Jack Oh got the title shot over him
You mean the guy who came off of a win over Gilbert Burns showed in a loss to
Shavkat that he deserved.
No, yeah, yeah, it's his right.
But you're allowed to take moral victories, right?
Moral victories don't propel you in the rankings.
I had your belonging.
Is that what you're talking about?
Because I got him on my channel today.
Don't miss the next time I take a gigantic L.
I also am going to go to Puerto Rico and do a gigantic media tour.
OK, but I'm just being serious.
There's a lot of different plays here.
But to me, the relevant question I want to hear where you have to say,
BC is the relevant question is what is the timeline for Shavkat's return?
That decides it because I think Shavkat meritocratically and what he did
for the company fighting Gary, not even for the interim title, just fighting
Gary late notice because he's a man and he'll and he's 40 and he'll take
on anyone who's in front of him.
Let's hear though from friend of the program Josh Thompson of the Weighing In podcast who
believes much stronger than me. He believes automatically here it should be Brady next.
Unpopular opinion but I gotta be honest tonight. Sean Brady's performance was spectacular but the
question has to be asked does he jump Shavkat now for the title shot? Great finish over Leon Edwards. Great performance before that fight as well.
Like he's on a terror right now.
Shavkat coming off, obviously the win over Jeff Neal
and the win over Ian Gary, which is very lackluster,
but that's to be expected from two stand up fighters.
I think Sean Brady jumps Shavkat from Shavkat's inactivity,
but Sean Brady having such a great performance.
What do you think?
So if you would listen closely, his point is that he believes the Neil fight
which was the first time we thought Shavkat might be human because he was
getting kind of lit up at times in those exchanges mixed with the Gary fight in
which both were largely ineffective in trying to overtake the other one so it
became more of a point fight that if you mix that with the injury that right now
even if Shavkat was healthy Sean Brady's the more active guy taking out big names and look what he just did
to the former champ. After hearing that argument I mean it's it's it's I kind of
understand it I still I would lean Shavkat obviously it'll depend on the
injury but what do you think about Josh's take? Here's the it's it's it's
not crazy logic and just Josh Thompson we like him over here at MK it's not crazy logic. And Josh Thompson, we like him over here at MK.
It's not crazy. It's not crazy logic.
I don't agree, but it's definitely not something that,
I don't know what kind of reaction he got.
He was saying it's unpopular.
I don't know how unpopular that would be actually.
I've definitely seen some whispers of that
in conjunction with this one.
I'll say it again.
There's no question who has the single best win between Sean Brady and Shavkat Rachmanov Sean Brady does
Submitting Leon Edwards and dude like he didn't just submit Leon Edwards. He fucking big brother to him
He big brother hand in like it was it was it was that was do that was light work for Sean
I mean the first round was obviously, you know fine
But after that that was fucking light work for him.
And that is crazy.
When did he get the redness in the eye?
Was that on that elbow or was that?
I mean, again, in the first round,
like a little bit in the second actually,
or maybe the third, he came out and popped them a little bit.
But he was catching them with some of those elbows.
We talked about the elbows and the clinch, did we not?
Absolutely.
The clinch was gonna be an interesting position.
And at first, it looked like Leon was doing pretty great in the first round, but then
that all went to shit.
Again, I just feel like if you promise a guy a title shot, the only way you really rescind
that is when they can't meet any kind of normal return to activity on a reasonable timeline.
Also we'll say this, Sean Brady did already fight Balal Muhammad.
If Balal ends up beating JDM, and I did, I think Balal very clearly deserves to be the
favorite in that fight.
Now again, JDM is dangerous, but whatever.
If he wins, you're just going to put Brady right back in front of him.
You could do that, but Shavkat, if he's not far behind, is a fresh matchup.
And then you can see what kind of happens thereafter.
By the way, it also depends on what Sean Brady wants to do.
Does he want to wait?
Does he want to get back out there?
Does he want to be, you know, reasonably consistent in terms of his frequency?
Well, he personally believes and we got sound to throw to that, although
what's going against him, of course, is that he already fought Bilal and got
knocked out, he believes he did Leon way worse than Bilal did.
And that plays into this argument.
Let's listen to Sean Brady about the future.
Bilal tweeted, Sean copied my homework.
Was that a plan going into this fight to put on pressure on Leon?
Because we have noticed when you give him space, throw the leg kicks and
you come into his game.
Yeah.
Was that a plan of it?
Yeah, I mean, I think I did a lot better than Bilal did.
I think Bilal lost a couple of rounds.
He had his back taken for an entire round.
I think it was what?
Three, two when they fought, I dominated Leon every round.
No one's ever did it like me.
Um, and then I submitted him and made him quit in front of his hometown.
You weren't going to, if we were in Philly, you ain't making me
quit in front of my hometown.
I'll tell you that I'm going to sleep, son.
So. So Luke, those are some interesting points as well. You ain't making me quit in front of my hometown. I'll tell you that I'm going to sleep son, so
So Luke those are some interesting points as well I want to get long Island Luke's take from a degenerate level
If Sean Brady was fighting Bilal next or if Bilal beats Jack Della, and then we do that fight anyway
What would the odds be based on all of these facts? We're talking about right here
I think just based on the first fight Bilal has to be the favorite. Sure Sean definitely his stock went up
He probably closed the odds a little bit after this performance
But I still think the law is gonna be like minus 175 Sean plus 150
But that's be showing Sean a lot of respect based on the three fights since that ball fight. Listen, I
This is this this should be an episode where we talk great about Sean Brady
And I certainly we've been doing that we probably will continue to do it for quite a long time. If you rewatch the
first fight, well the only fight between Brady and Balal, did Balal look really good?
He shut down those takedowns very quickly and then popped him with that
right hand as he moved over like this is what I mean we're just gonna put like
why would you do a rematch when the first fight to Bilal's credit?
I'm not trying to bash Brady in any way. It's a great weekend for him.
But Bilal won that one pretty cleanly. Sure. That'll go against him in this larger conversation.
What I mean is give it a little bit of time.
Let's wait a little bit so we get a different, or at least in theory, a potentially different version of that fight the second time around.
So anyway. There you go. We also have a stat here on Twitter showing some Sean Brady stuff here.
Fun fact says Meredith Gagey at nerd underscore Gagey.
Sean Brady is the only fighter to have a winning record
after fighting Balaam Mohammed since that loss.
Of course, Brady now I thought he was three and other saying no, he's three.
You know, since then, this most maybe this came out before the fight.
Oh, he's now three, you know, because he'd be Gastelum
and then he'd be the last.
He's smashed Gilbert Gilbert Burns in the last one.
And as you can see, all the other fighters there,
no one has scored a victory after that.
That is a very interesting stat.
Now. Now it still means that if Shafkat's healthy, he deserve it.
But the second half of this state of Walter weight question is interesting, Luke.
And I want to get your personal take here.
Can you share for me your top five pound for pound ranking right now in the UFC at 170
pounds, including champion and including contenders and not necessarily in terms of accomplishments,
just the other half of the pound for pound current stock pure ability right now, you
can add in momentum because that matters.
Who's your working five right now at 170 pounds?
I just want to say I can see your list here and I cannot believe it.
Alright, you want me to reveal it?
I cannot, yeah. Why don't you go first because I want to be clear,
I think your list is insane.
Alright, this is great. This is going to be wonderful.
I mean these are all good fighters, your list is nuts.
Okay, number five, I really toyed with this, but I'm going Joaquin Buckley.
That part I'm okay with.
The finishes of late, the win streak, the maturity that he's showing, the confidence, all of that, momentum matters, he's got that.
Number four, Sean Brady.
I think this is weird positioning, but...
Number three, Balaam Mohammed.
That is, you are, you are so fucking... Wait till you see who's number two.
Number two? Ian Machado-Garrick. Okay, I quit. I quit. I fucking quit! You are you are so fucking you wait wait till you see who's number two number two
Ian Machado, I quit I quit I fucking quit
How do you have him above fucking Sean Brady?
Muhammad because I think he has this ability to stuff take downs take away your strength and put you into a point fight match He's got he's got super limited offense. I get that, but he puts you into the terms of him
from distance point fighting.
Sean Brady just submitted the former champion.
I got that, but he went in there against that killer
Shavkat and made him look human.
And I know he didn't win the fight.
I'm not trying to do the Burlango victory tour.
I'm not saying give Ian the next title shot.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not even saying that I'm this big closet
Ian Gary super fan. I'm not, I'm just saying he has this ability to swim
at this very high level and I think there's a reason even though it's
sometimes he looks overwhelming there's a reason why people don't dominate him
and body him and get him. I have him too and then of course number one I have
Shavkat although I'm I see the doubt of late. Maybe it's been fueled by injury
and all that. Maybe a prime full camp healthy
Shavkat is a different story for everybody.
But that's my five at the moment.
Look, this long out Luke.
So that's me basically saying,
I think Ian Gary could stuff Sean Brady's advancement
and make it a different fight.
Am I crazy?
I don't think you're crazy, but I don't agree.
He's huge for this weight class.
Also, I think I'm lanky.
He's not huge.
I'm swapping out Buckley for JDM in your top five
So I I get that but I looked at JDM's recent run. It's not just the inactivity the injury
He was getting pieced up by Gilbert until he until he won that fight in the end. Very good, dude
Dude, I don't think I haven't seen a dominant JDM performance against an elite guy lately the wrong like yes
He really is that guy? Yeah. Yeah, but what have you seen from Buckley?
You haven't beating explosive wins against like legitimate names
He beat four people in a year, and he looked really good doing it. I can understand that I don't have no
Like you know I mean okay fair enough, but he had to start somewhere, but like where?
Where would you put Buckley?
Outside outside. I'm going JDM. You know I'm going okay. I think you guys are high Ian Gary for I'm going below three shop cut to and below one
Okay, let me go. Let me do mine. I like his better, but I still don't read. Yeah, what number?
To get three three shop cut to blow one, okay
I'm gonna go number one and I can't believe this is even debatable dude put some fucking respect on below
I have respect on him.
He's so solid. Number one, Balal Mohammed with a bullet.
Dude, he has surprised me. I didn't see it. Listen.
I didn't see his ascension coming either.
I'm not some fucking grand sage, but
it happened. It happened. And he did that
win over Sean Brady. Go back and watch it.
It ages well.
Super well. Okay, he's
number one. Number two, because he submitted
a former champion, Sean Brady. Above Shavkat. one number two because he submitted a former champion Sean Brady
Is that number two? Above Shavkat. Above Shavkat. Count for count at the moment. Shavkat is gonna be at three now. That's a close one
Wow, you're leaning into the doubt around Shavkat. I'm not leaning into the doubt
I have to respect what these other guys are showing but I'm telling you we're not ranking today's thing on accomplishments
I understand. Okay. Well, but you wrote you wrote not in terms of accomplishments just in terms of current stock and pure ability
Okay, slash momentum pure ability what Sean Brady showed is
Comprehensively good crazy massive momentum as well right now, even though he was hurt lately
But you do he has improved like to such a degree. I know it's controversial. I'm just telling you
I think we're missing the rise of being Gary. I think we're missing part of it. We're missing the full package
I'm gonna go for Joaquin Buckley and then five Ian Gary
I think it's comical to put Ian Gary in front of any of the other four guys
So wait Buck vs. Cuck who you taking?
That's an average Joe art original piece, okay, I'm just shouting out I take Buckley I take Buckley I'm taking you this
So you think Buckley what stops? I think Buckley is I think Buckley is further along in his development. Now, that being said, Ian Gary is quite young. I think how much younger is Ian Gary than Joaquin Buckley? Can you look that up? I gotta look it up. Yeah. Yeah. Buckley's like mid thirties. Ian Gary, I think is like twenty nine. late twenties. So I think the thing is Ian Gary's got more time to get good.
Whereas some of these other guys are a little bit further along because they
are older, not all of them, obviously, but certainly in the case of
balal and stuff like that.
So it's not a question of ultimate upside, but right now looking at the
stock ticker who's impressing me with their ability, momentum and stock.
Yeah.
It's Joaquin Buckley over Ian.
Okay.
Ian Gary is 27 years old.
Joaquin Buckley will be 30 in about a month.
Oh, so Buckley's only 29.
I take that back.
I thought he was older.
I thought he was like 35.
Okay, still, he's in the middle of his athletic,
this is what I mean.
He's in the middle of his athletic prime.
Ian Gary hasn't even started.
Okay, what if I had swapped it out?
What if I left Shavkat at one,
but I put Bilal at two, and I put Ian Gary at three? Would this have been a controversy or crazy at all? I don't even started. Okay, what if I had swapped it out? What if I left Shavkat at one, but I put Bilal at two and I put Ian Gary at three?
Would this have been a controversy or crazy at all?
I don't think so. I mean, I think I...
It's just swapping Bilal and Gary on two and three.
I think we're going to be wrong about Ian Gary.
I think we are.
I think he's building something here.
And it's the lack of spectacularity that makes us go, I'm not sure,
but who's body in this guy?
What is Ian Gary's best win?
I mean, MVP did tournament to a wrestler, but he figured out a way to win that fight.
What is Ian Gary's best win?
The loss against Javakot is Ian Gary's best win.
But that's the truth. That's the truth.
Okay, but that's...
I get what you're saying.
That's not a thing to me.
I get what you're saying.
You got to go in there.
Dude, this is why what Sean Brady did is so impressive.
He went in there again.
These people have been like, oh, Leon was never good. is so impressive. He went in there again. These people been like, oh Leon was never good
Yes, he was. Yes. He was you can say he fucked up in this fight and he's got other issues because that's true
But he's real good
Sean Brady went in there against a known credible achiever and
Demolished him Ian Gary simply hasn't done that. Okay, so let's say Shavkat is healthy and this whole segment and debate is unnecessary
It really might be in Gary versus Sean Brady is the next fight the next number one contender fight
The next Sean Brady to me into other outlets has called out Ian Gary. I believe they have the same manager
It's something that I know he wants because dude
I think Sean Brady looks at the grappling is like I'm gonna feast on this guy
Okay, so long Island Luke is where we need your best degeneracy
Give us if this is a number one contender fight next,
give us the odds for Sean Brady versus Ian Machado Gary.
Personally, I'm favoring Sean, but it'd be close.
I'm going to go like minus 130 Sean plus 115 Ian Gary.
I'm just saying I get what we just saw from Brady, which was incredible,
is literally us changing the conversation and asking if he should be in the title shot next.
So I'm giving him his respect, but I'm saying don't sleep on who Ian and Gary really is.
Don't miss this.
I believe in what Ian and Gary can become.
His wife's ex does not live with him. It was a false rumor. Don't miss this, okay?
I can't believe the most under-sexed males completely don understand his life, but that you need to hear nor there I
Believe fully BC your because I got you know what I'll be kind of be honest with you
Your promotion of Ian Gary to me feels a little bit like not Kevin Lee future world champion
Which by the way, I was totally on board with I was totally on board with no
It feels to me like Francis is gonna wrestle serial kind of thing to me. It hasn't. I did get that right.
You got it right.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
I think that will age well.
It's not a question of what Ian and Gary will become.
I got you.
Just where he is right now.
And Sean Brady is doing really impressive shit.
Hey, it's a fun division because I could have put Carlos protest right on the
outside of that top five that we don't know.
This guy could be a fucking hot knife coming through.
And I gotta say, we kind of treat welterweight sometimes a little bit like, you know, it's not as bad as middleweight,
but it's a far cry from...
Because you got a lot of Wonder Boys,
a lot of Colby's lingering, guys like that.
But unlike lightweight, you're looking at the young guys
starting to push them all out.
Now, Balazs a little bit older,
but how much time does he have left on top?
It's hard to say.
Yep.
I freaking love what's happening at welterweight.
This is what's supposed to happen.
Healthy divisional turnover with the new guys coming in and pushing out some of the older ones.
Great, great stuff. Michael Morales also on that list, right?
A hundred percent. He's on that list. He built like a fucking tank.
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Luke, I'm getting jazzed up for our UFC 314 pregame preview
that's coming up on Wednesday, April 9th.
We're gonna get some Cuervo.
We're gonna get after a loaded Miami card.
That Miami card.
And again, I'm glad you brought this up.
It's not gonna be on a Friday.
It's gonna be on a Wednesday. It's gonna be on a Wednesday, folks. So that way we can get maximum time in front of your eyeballs.
Yes, and provide for my vacation a couple days later.
I have one thing to show you breaking news from the Joe.
It happened Saturday night on the Joe Rogan.
What do they call that?
The Fight Companion?
The Fight Companion podcast.
Joe said, and I want to get Luke's live reaction.
Joe said, quote, I won't be at UFC 315. I don't go Joe said and I want to get Luke's live reaction Joe said quote
I won't be at UFC 315. I don't go to Canada anymore
I'd rather go to Russia and quote this has been quote tweeted by
MMA fighting even made a post in a picture about Canada is a great place with great things to see and
Great people like his loss, honestly, you know what I mean?
I love their broad stutter.
Is this a personal attack?
This fucking bullshit about going after Canada
is so fucking lame.
Canada rocks.
Like, I got nothing bad to say about Canada.
It's cold as fuck. How about that, though?
Even Shaquille Mazzuti's texts?
Okay, you know what? Now I hate Canada again.
Okay, yeah, you know what?
Rogan's right. Rogan's right.
Alright. Hey, let's go to topic number three
and it is of course the rest of UFC London
beginning. Oh, time out real quickly if I may. I'm sorry.
Oh please, bring it. We are supposed to get
Cain Velasquez's sentencing
in about ten minutes. Long Island Luke, can you
check out Nolan King
on Twitter? He's there
I think. Okay? Thank you.
Sorry about that. UFC London's co-main event was a big storyline there in the light heavyweight division and
in the larger title picture because Carlos Olberg claimed what would turn out to be a
pretty disputed three round decision or was it? That's why we're here to debate against
former champion Jan Blachowicz. So Luke, plain and simple, we both watched this fight.
Is there justification for all three judges scoring at 29-28,
two rounds to one for Carlos Olberg against his 42 year old
opponent who was coming back after nearly a two-year layoff?
I...
There are two ways to get title shots.
Two ways.
One is you can go through and simply conquer a division as a contender, or you're just marching down big names, you're winning all the important fights and you look like a million bucks, fans are interested, you might be marketable. You can all think of a million scenarios in which that has happened. Chris Weidman, Conor McGregor, you name it. There's just a million. That's one way to get a title shot.
There's another way to get a title shot,
which is not so much conquering, it's qualifying.
Did you get enough wins?
Is there someone else a little bit ahead?
Does the UFC need you for some particular reason?
As you're a fresh contender,
do you speak to a certain market?
Do you, you know, whatever the case may be.
To me, in this case?
I think the scoring we need to talk about the scoring round by round because you look at the judge's scorecards
They're all over the house them. Oh, okay. So let's look at them here for a second
I want my point being is from a broad perspective leave them up if you can well now look from a broad perspective
Carlos Alberg has qualified for a title shot was a straight wins. Yes
He is qualified, but he hardly has a mandate.
Now, to the point about the scoring individually.
He does prefer women, I think.
Say again?
In terms of his mandate, he prefers women, I think.
The point I'm trying to make is, if you look at this,
there isn't, I don't think, a single round on all,
oh no, the third round, sorry, the second round.
That's the only one they all agree on.
All three gave it to Ulberg.
That's the only one they agree on, which three given to all agree on which I gotta say that probably was to me
Ulberg's better round I had it kind of like I'm gonna say I had it like Ben
Cartlidge had it I gave it see round two is the only one I gave to blow up you
gave around to double I did there look there this was a very close fight they
both kind of canceled each other out.
There was a lot of focus on the calf kicks.
There wasn't takedowns.
There wasn't dominant.
I mean, I thought Jan landed that two-punch combination that was the swing sequence in
that close second round for me.
I'll tell you what, I scored it for Blachowicz.
I know I thought Olberg was going to win on Friday's MK, and I guess, you know, obviously
he did, but I thought after the fight was over, I was like, I think Blohovich took it.
And for me, BC, I want to get long out of Luke's score here in just a minute.
For me, BC, the difference was, and I would love to see what you think about this, I thought Blohovich, even if he wasn't landing numerically as much as Olberg, Olberg did do more labor.
Sure.
I thought Blohovich was visibly landing with more impact.
Well, that's why I scored the second round for him and you just clowned it.
Like that's that's the hope.
Are you calling that? It's the only round I scored for you that it's the only round.
OK, which is which I think is the central part of this debate.
I think because I was remember I wasn't watching live.
I was sort of told by the Internet coming in that this is the nicest guy in the world.
The on Blachowicz and he is a great interview.
We love him. He's on this run of not getting the benefit of the doubt when you consider the title draw he
had against Ankalaya, you consider when he welcomed Poetan to the division via split decision defeat.
There's a lot of people that say the wrestling should have been scored more in the way he
controlled Pereira and he could have won that. Oh poor Jan, this is the third time in a row they
don't give him the respect. And then I go watch it. Yes, there's times he's chewing them up to the calves and I did like that.
The couple the two sequences actually around two where he threw combinations in close and landed big shots.
But overall I felt because it was so close in terms of the impact of the strikes that
Ulberg was the busier guy and in some ways
had longer controls, minor controls of the terms.
But like there was I just liked his offense better in a fight
where I don't think either guy rose. I thought it was kind of a stalemate ultimately. So I didn't see the big
screw job or debate. I thought it was a,
it was a lot like when Jan Blachowicz was climbing the light heavyweight ladder and he had that main event against Jacare
and I was thinking, dude if he knocks him out this could be the breakthrough shot for a title and what did Jan do?
He played wrestle defense the whole time and won a boring five round decision,
but he moved the chains, got in there against Corey Anderson in his next fight,
knocked him out and then got his title shot and that's what happened.
I get that sometimes it's just about winning and this is what it turned out for Olberg.
And if we're gonna have the, you know, we can have the discussion of has he shown you ability wise
that he's ready for the title compared with how much that eight win streak actually shows?
But I think this fight was a flip of the coin ultimately and who won that I don't see the screw job on my crazy
Well, I don't look how'd you score it
So I had a bet on Blachowicz. I was obviously rooting for him, but I scored it first round
Yeah, on two three for Olberg. I don't think there's any scorecard here that would surprise me
I was saying this to BC. You could have gone 30-27, Jan, 30-27, Olberg, or 29-28, either way. Every round was really close.
I do think round one was a Jan round, two-three, Olberg.
I mean, I was surprised Olberg won. I thought Jan won it, but I don't think it's close.
I don't think it's a screw job.
Okay, so if you are surprised, then what was it from the Blohovic attack? Just the fact that he did seem to land the harder?
Yeah. The harder shots?
Yeah, yeah, and again you got good judges like Ben Cartlidge is a really good judge.
I met him through Bronstedter in Vegas, very nice guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like dude, he's hardcore, like he's trying to be the best judge in the world and he might be.
But the point I'm trying to make is it's not like I don't think, it's not like I can't comprehend what the Ulberg,
how you get to 29-28 with Ulberg. I totally understand that.
I would just like to hear a vision articulated.
Is it because he outvolumed him?
Are we granting, are you admitting
that it looked in all three rounds
that Yon landed the harder shots?
No, I'm saying in round two it definitely did.
I gave him that round and I felt one and three
were just inconclusive.
You didn't get that vibe?
Yeah. Man, I don't know.
I thought there were so many times he was taking him off of his foundation.
Maybe this is the reason why Carlos Olberg won.
Can we show the three judges' faces?
See, I saw this meme about CKB and I'm thinking, okay, okay, this was a, man, they screwed
my guy.
And I'm not saying I'm overly impressed by Carlos Olberg.
Why does Kai Kara have the belt in this picture?
Yeah, that is a little weird. That is weird. I don't know
You never won the interim title right now. I lost a marine award for yeah, but he never had it
So that's all a joke and stuff. I just here's the thing it's like MMA and any sport
but in particular MMA and obviously what's when we're talking about, the fans have their favorites and Blachowicz has been something of a
favorite. Polish power. They love the memes. They love his attitude. And again,
they like the way he fights like dude, John Blachowicz, by the way,
I gotta say he looked his age, but he didn't look,
I didn't know how he was going to look from a fluidity standpoint. He looked
pretty fluid. He shook the rust off pretty quick. Yes. It just looked to me
like he kind of faded down the stretch.
I don't think he had the stamina to go for takedown. That's what I think too. And that maybe could have been the difference in this fight. Totally.
I think he didn't have that extra gear to really put it on him.
Whereas Alberg kind of did and so that kind of made a difference in the end.
But the point I want to make is they love Blachowicz. And so was it close? Yes.
So their favorite guy ended up losing a, you know, not controversial,
but difficult to accept close fight.
And I think that explains some of the stuff.
Well, now, we're going to hear from Carlos, not Carlos Protest, Carlos
Olberg, sorry, in a second.
But were you. I don't know if impressed is the word,
but do you feel like Olberg is showing us that he's ready for the title?
No, yeah, I didn't get that by.
Let's hear his take on that. the game. I think Olberg is showing us that he's ready for the title. No. Yeah, I didn't
get that by at all. Alright,
let's let's hear his take on
that. Do you feel that win
really announces you at the
very top of the division and
top of the sport now? For sure.
Yes. And if you look at guys
like uh the the current
champion and the former
champion, their last fight
with with um Jan Bruchovic was
a very close fight as well and I uh beat him um unanimous decision, UD, so it's a very good
feat for me. Final on Pereira and Kalei of rematch if that's next, who do you see coming out on top of that?
I'm not too sure, I haven't even seen the fight yet but I'll go back and I'll watch the fight
too and then we'll see what that places me to. Jerry Pratschko mentioned he was interested
in the winner of your fight next
if you weren't gonna get a title shot.
Do you and how do you feel you'd match up with him?
Yeah, for sure, I'll get anyone.
But I mean, where is he placed at the moment?
I'm looking to go forward for sure.
And I'm definitely looking at a title shot
in the near future.
I get Olberg's stance there, but the other two guys who fought
Jan weren't fighting a guy coming off 18 months off with double shoulder surgery.
So that you know, some of that does matter, right?
To some degree.
And in that.
But what do you make?
I think we all would like him against Yuri Pryhatsky
if he can't get the winner of that rematch.
For sure.
But shouldn't he get the winner of that rematch between Ankaleyev and Poton?
Or would you be more than fine with making Olberg go in there against a killer and have to really earn it?
I think I'd be okay with it. It's fucking light heavyweight.
I think we just need to kind of accept where we are with this.
Okay.
And here's the thing. It's like, dude, Yuri looked really good against Jamal Hill.
We talked about some of the differences, taking defense seriously, and it only made him better.
It only made him more or it only made him deadlier.
And so for that reason, like, I kind of want to see how he does with this new perspective,
you know, in a lot of different scenarios, but we just can't feed.
We don't have any interesting contenders.
Honestly, I think all the only one right the only one all bird fights Yuri. I think Yuri
Shoves him into the woodchip or if I can be honest find out yeah
But then if he does you're just gonna have Yuri potentially against poet on again cuz poor time could win the rematch
You know you never know yeah, I think they would do that. Oh man. I don't want to see that shit again
Let's see a wholesome moment. We can talk over this no volume at the hotel afterwards. Oh, there's volume
Now there's no volume so that is old bird going up to blow hovich and ultimately look the the the message was he urged
Yawn not to retire told him he doesn't want him to told him he still has it obviously yawns a great dude
So they they raised a pint together
You know I'm gonna go I'm gonna go nuts on Bushido because we got enough toxic trash in the sport
So it feels good on that. Yeah, but do you think he on at 42 should carry on?
Yeah, yeah, I think I don't I wouldn't say that very normally but I think he does have to be careful with his matchmaking
Yes, because he looks to me that he still wants to get back and that one more push for the title
I don't know if that's in the cards to be perfectly honest with you
Although I guess at light heavyweight, you're never that far away.
But the thing that I say,
the thing that I would have concern about
is he tries to keep going for this
and then ends up fighting somebody he probably shouldn't
and then for the first time ever really gets hurt.
Yeah.
And that would give me some concern.
Didn't it get blanked by Maheta
back in Middle Way back in the day?
Okay, but at 205 where he's- It was like devastating. Yeah, but that would give me some concern get blanked by my head to back and middle way back in the day Okay, but at 205 where he's devastating. Yeah. Yeah, but it's oh
I'm not I see I think he's has he ever been stopped. I thought long on
I got to pull this up now. You got the internet right in front of you
We talking about right now. I'm talking of it's a hovich didn't he get KO'd by my head to viciously although
It was like back at middle way back in the day
So I might have been at 205. Yeah, exactly. So he lost to Jimmy Manawa via decision.
He lost to Gustafson and Patrick Cummins via decision.
He lost to Tiago via KO in the third round,
but I think that's a 205,
because I think he had moved up.
Tiago, that is.
Then he lost to Glover.
He got subbed out by Glover.
He lost to Magomed, or it was the draw anyway.
Well, the Glover was the title shot.
Yeah. It was the title defense. So he's got the draw to Magomed, or it was the draw anyway. Well, the Glover was the title shot, was the title defense.
So he's got the draw to Magomed, and then he has the back to back losses to Poetan and
Ulberg, but here's my point.
He's lost four of his last five.
That is a problem.
It does matter.
I got clowned for my Gooner Nelson pronunciation the other day.
Don't people remember like five years ago, there was a point where the UFC was trying
to tell us that that's the way you pronounce it, and then everybody just gave it up after that. That is correct. There was a moment, there was a brief moment where they were trying to tell us that that's the way you pronounce it and then everybody just gave it Up after that. That is correct. There was a moment
There was a brief moment where they were trying to tell us it was Gunnar
But I think Gunnar's got a different meaning now Gunnar Nelson went in there against
Kevin Holland in a welterweight bout there's a lot of crazy grappling sequences some good moments of ground and pop from Holland
Ultimately Holland takes a three round unanimous decision Luke
We talked so much about Holland like always willing to be taking tough fights last minute. He only cares
about fighting four or five times a year. He's the new cowboy. Like this kind of is a good thing that
he came out there with that performance, but are you, I'm still wary as well. I'm trying to say for
the future. I do. I gotta tell you, I thought this was a very good performance from Kevin Holland. We said it on Friday, man.
Kevin Holland is a skilled fighter.
When he wants to, yes.
When he wants to, he's good.
I mean, there is simply no argument.
He doesn't need to be fighting at 85.
And I saw what he had to say.
I think you have the clip.
I have it.
Let's throw it away.
Let's play this clip because this one just bummed me the fuck out, man.
It says if it's 170 pounds, then let's be smart.
I got that same computer.
Let's be smart, and I'll possibly do a couple months
down the road, then another one a couple months down the
road.
If it's 170 pounds, probably only get two more in this
year, three at the most.
If it's 185 pounds, I can fight there every fucking weekend.
One question for me.
What are you going to do when you're done with fighting for today?
Now that I'm done fighting today, I haven't smoked weed in a little bit.
So I'm pretty sure somebody at the hotel will have some.
And I'll burn that back like it's just a tree trunk.
The amount of money I make these days, I could slow down.
The amount of money I make these days, I could slow down. The amount of money I make these days, I could definitely slow down.
But the amount of money I spend these days, I stay active.
That's exactly what Cowboy Serrano used to say.
He'd be like, I wanna fight four times, five times a year cuz I wanna buy this boat.
That's what, you know.
I mean, it's like the Chris Lytle approach where you might win, you might lose, but
you rack up enough bonuses. You can put your kids through college and get some retail property. I mean, it's like the Chris Lytle approach where you you know, you might win you might lose
But you rack up enough bonuses you can put your kids through college and get you know get some retail property
So I'm asking you is this a strategy from Holland or does it just play into his personality?
I'll say this if he can reasonably keep himself safe where you know doing this doesn't put him at I
Mean fighting more frequently is going to be more is gonna be worse for your health than not fighting at all, obviously.
But I guess what I'm trying to say is,
if you're completely and totally punting on the idea
that you need to maximize your ability
to climb a ladder to fight for a title,
and that there's another business model
that you can take advantage of.
And still be famous.
And still be famous.
You don't get the highest high end of the purses,
but you might get a pretty good one.
And you might upset a big name along the way.
Yeah, and just fuck it. So it's frustrating for me to hear that. Also,
like I'm worried about his spending habits. Remember he was like showing out
ice and stuff and I'm like UFC fighters showing off their ice is like red flag
city. But the point, either way, I'm glad that he is in a place where he
doesn't have to have the title to get some financial stability and even
comfort.
But it is frustrating to watch a guy this good do that. I know especially on welterweight he's got wins where you're like man if he cared and I think if he focused on grappling a lot too like
there's a he moved down and weight and the motor was somehow even stronger you know but you know
what blew me away was in that first round,
dude, Kevin Hollins guard was good. Yeah, it was defensively good.
He didn't get past.
He was threatening with the submissions and you're not going to threaten.
You're not going to really submit Gunnar Nelson.
That's really not going to happen in all likelihood.
And he stays jacked by the way.
He does stay jacked.
But the thing I'm trying to point out is you're probably not going to sub him,
but he was definitely keeping him honest.
He was definitely keeping him honest the whole time, which by itself,
you're not getting past and you're threatening at least a little bit with the
guard, dude, that's hard to do.
And then he dropped them at the end of the first.
I was like, dude, Kevin Holland is freaking good when he wants to be.
When he wants to be.
That's the question.
Uh, meatball, Molly will no longer be around Molly McCann.
And what turned out to be her final bout here, uh, did give us a nice moment with the Liverpool crowd and you saw Patti
Pimlet crying, but it came after her first round submission loss to Alexia
Tainara. Luke, this is where I really regret the UFC YouTube police that
prevent us from showing any form of broadcast footage of any event anymore
because even though this topic and even though the fallout of this bout will be
about that
That meteor that was the meatball molly experience that came through and gave us some spinny shit and and got a barstool sponsorship and all that
but tie naras
Dance to the cage which was very
Michelle Pereira esque with the celebration dive
slash
Twerk twerk grind into like the monster logo in the center of the cage
was one of the most unhinged incredible moments in UFC history up there with big boy Chris Barnett
doing the flip and the split and all that. Can we talk about that dance first? Is this is Tynara
even good because I got some Fiona vibes, I've got some theatrical demopolis vibes. This could be must see TV every
time out.
She was full of life. Was she not? She was I mean, I'm being
serious. She was to see what she was full of lies a pack of
Mentos. Yes, dude, like my daughter will go around the
house yelling and you know, she she won't hear this. She's not
necessarily Aretha Franklin when it comes to singing. Come on,
let it go. Okay, well, let it go, let it go.
So my point is though, it doesn't matter, right?
Because she's joyful, she brings joy to the house,
she's happy to sing, you know, she's full of life too.
Just don't let Tukey twerk like that yet, please.
Oh, no, no, I mean she's five, BC.
Okay, because that's just...
Can we just not do this, please?
Can we not even mention this kind of thing around my daughter?
What I'm trying to make is I don't
know how good she is because frankly, I don't really know what it means to beat Molly McCann.
It's certainly not nothing. And by the way, to do it on like insanely short notice. That
is impressive.
In Liverpool, not in Liverpool, but in the UK there, it's a big win for you.
I think the thing I would come away with is, do you now have interest in seeing what's
next for Tynara in a way that perhaps you never imagined before? Yeah, I thing I would come away with is do you now have interest in seeing what's next for Tynara in a way that
Perhaps you never imagined before
Yeah, I guess I would imagine that I do long out look
What was the main card minute live reaction like to the celebration and submission from Tynara?
Well, dude, we were all saying she's gonna gas out in two minutes
But I will say I was calling all week Tynara was gonna arm bar Molly
Wow, I am happy she got the sub but I was was calling the armbar, so little bum there.
And Molly fought off that first deep choke attempt,
aggressively.
Well, remember, Tynara had to fend off the sub attempt
from Molly, then take the back, then go for the sub,
didn't quite work.
She had the one-handed bit,
and then she readjusted and got the,
I think it was a bicep grip, whatever it was.
You know, it was good work by her,
and then she did the diving twerk.
I'd never seen diving twerk.
Neither have I. I'd never seen diving twice
I've seen some twerking. I
you know, I I've seen some twerking in my days, but I'd never seen a diving twerk like that as a marine as an ex-marine
There's no such thing of you. You definitely have seen it Luke. Can I just tell you the absolute ashtrayed washed up?
Ash trade washed up. Fucking husks of former humans that I've seen doing stripping in strip clubs
in the smallest worst towns ever imaginable.
Yeah, we keep those stories to ourselves or I've seen OG room service.
I want to I want to strip club once and the girl who was like
it was like the afternoon because, you know, it was daylight
because I'm a fucking degenerate.
You're like, well, they got a buffet.
Do you think I'm not eating the tater tots at strip clubs?
Just don't eat the wings, please.
At Camelot in New York, I said on New York, in Camelot in DC, which is on.
Camelot.
First of all, I've been thrown out of there.
I've been thrown out of Camelot.
And I've eaten the buffet.
Here's what I want to point out, though.
I once I went to one in the middle of the afternoon and they don't
put like the full array of dancers in the middle of the day
Yes
the one that was there was taking shots with all the patrons and then fell off the pole because she was so drunk and
Had they had to come and like like take her backstage and there was like a like an hour-long
Intermission where they didn't have anybody on staff they play music during the intermission? And I waited the full intermission
because I was pathetic in my 20s.
I just want to point that out.
I don't know how we transitioned
from that story into this,
but Luke, how will you remember Molly McCann,
who, look, was an honest fighter
with a good backstory and a lot of charisma and spunk
and went all in on her fights, win or lose.
How do you remember Molly McCann?
I mean... You're like, I'm trying not to. No, it's not even, and went all in on her fights, win or lose. How do you remember Molly McCann?
I mean.
You're like, I'm trying not to.
No, it's not.
I'm not going to sit here and be disrespectful about it.
I mean, she had she was a reasonably important figure
as a newer generation of UK stars emerged on the MMA scene.
The Robin to Patty's Batman.
Yeah, I mean, I think it was important for big personalities
to get out there and carry the flag for the UK, which she did.
She absolutely did. She played a big role, you know, in terms of like best
wins and like what her career meant and all that stuff. You know, it never
really got out to any kind of degree where you have to assess that sort of
thing. But I think we can all agree she was a personality and a identifiable
figure for the fan base for that era of fighters and you know
She did well for herself removed by patties tears on the way out. No
No, all right, Luke Thomas said what he said. So Luke
Sean a bannon of Ireland had a quite a turn around from getting head kicked by her opponent and getting floored to turning that into a
arm bar of sorts and a spectacular win but this was very regional MMA like to be
fair. A win like that should never happen at the UFC level. She doesn't move her head one time or
or defend so it's kind of hard. Pujito Mar doing nothing to defend that armbar other than a little
bit of standing basically. Are those the type of fights Dana prefers ultimately like being straight up and honest. That is the type of fights he prefers
Those are tv fights people I guess to an extent. I mean, I do think he likes like the high level guys, too, but
that
Listen, i'm gonna say it again
Every part of mma has its place. Yes amateur mma MMA has its place, regional, international, and then full on
world level. But that is very far from world level MMA and it's on a world level card. And
I don't want that from the premier MMA organization. I want, you know, either world level MMA or
something very close to it. This is a far cry from that. So I'm like, I give Benin credit,
like she got drilled and then rallied.
That's not easy to do.
She's obviously got some significant heart credit to her.
That's tough to do.
But in terms of skill development,
there's a long way to go between those two
being anywhere approximating world level.
I know you don't speak Reddit,
but your delivery of I Don't want that was so in tune with
The O'Vaughn on his last episode of King and the sting when hot chip tried to put that hot chip between them to ease the awkwardness
I've not seen this. Oh, okay. There you go
Could you tell me something on this UFC London undercard that I probably didn't watch that you
Enjoyed or want to talk about with the people the prelim card was I don't think everyone's favorite if I can just be honest Right. I don't think everyone's favorite, if I can just be honest, right? I don't think everyone loved it per se. I will say this. Best fight on
the prelim card probably going to be the Kavanaugh Dos Santos fight or, or you could go another
direction. You could go. Yeah, no, you could buy. Yeah, you go that direction. I have to
say Jordan Vucenek, who I do think is a good
fighter, he also had an insanely bad decision in that fight with Chris
Duncan. He also shoots for a takedown 80 million miles away, right? 80 million
miles away. It gets stuffed. All right. But then they separate eventually and
he has another shot and then he runs him back into the fence
while he's doing well on the feet and
Clearly as much smoother on the feet than Duncan and then still elected to run him back into the fence. I
Found that absolutely baffling. He is much much much better than that
I think he's gonna want that one back big time. Long Island Luke, I know you love something
that happened on that undercard.
I know it.
It was on the main card,
but the main card opener,
Nathaniel Wood, Morgan Scherrier,
that was a great fight.
Nathaniel Wood looked damn good on the feet.
He dropped Scherrier one point.
Five and one at featherweight, right?
Yeah, that was a good fight.
Worth going back to watch.
All right.
No one delivers like Luke Nocita.
Let's go to topic number four,
and what a delivery from Rod Tang.
It was one championship 172 a Sunday pay-per-view.
Unfortunately, though, there was so much demand on the website
that it crashed and one had to give the pay-per-view away for
free, which it still is on their YouTube channel right now.
It was Rod Tang versus to Kiru and as oh, Timothy Weeden last
week shot out on MK by the way, a great performance
to set the stage.
Dude, he made that feel like we're gonna watch Hogan versus Andre at WrestleMania 3, right?
Like I was ready for that shit.
I don't think he was lying to us.
It just didn't know.
This is great.
So Luke, let's talk about it.
First round K.
Oh, wow.
Despite the website issues, as we mentioned, 1172 successfully captured a good like chunk
of the combat sports attention from the weekend,
and maybe rightfully so. How impressive in your eyes was the 80-second finish,
KO, round one, Rod Tang over to Karo?
I gotta say one thing, man. I went back and I watched this. I missed it live, so I had to go back and look,
and I rewatched it again. Man, is it me? Tell me if I'm wrong. By the way, Long Island Luke, did you watch one?
No, I was not up at 3 a.m. on Saturday.
Dude, they made it look big.
Yeah, they made it. We always talk about that here, like what the promotions can do.
You know, obviously, we know the UFC can do that, but like, can the other ones?
They did.
It's like Toma Super Arena. You know, you're getting a crowd.
I don't. Yeah, I don't think they sold out necessarily, but they had a pretty good
attendance and
The lighting and the stage and then the ramp like dude one did a really good job with that
I I have to give credit where credit is due. I thought that they made
They made it count when it was supposed to count. However, it just ended in 80 seconds
Basically off I'm not even joking. Two left hooks.
A brutal one, but yes.
So I have to say, I do think that Rod Tang, like this win will propel him in ways that,
you know, the Edgar Tabarres fight is not going to do much for him and it didn't mean
much, but this one will.
But if I can just be honest, and again, we are not kickboxing experts by any stretch
of the imagination, but the kickboxing experts warned us heading into this contest that
Takeru was kind of considering retirement at different stages, especially
after the super leg fighter, you know, with his leg all messed up.
And he, this is a guy who just is a head down brawler and it kind of caught up
with him.
It looks to me like his ability to resist a shot has been significantly diminished.
Now, Rod Tang landed two excellent shots on him.
Rod Tang said coming in that he didn't believe Takeru's leg had healed from the
super leg fight and that he did attack it early and went after it.
Yes, no doubt about it. He went after it too.
But it just seemed to me like if you've built a style on just hard gym wars,
hard sparring, brawling out, you can do that for a while.
But I think Takeru was 33, almost 34 years of age,
he looks to... Based on everything I'm trying to understand what the experts say, it looks to me like that Bill has come to.
Yeah. The Bill has come to and he simply doesn't have the resistance anymore to be in fights like that against Rod Tang, who by the way,
Rod Tang has been in what, like
300 plus some absurd number of fights. They call him the Iron Man. They're not all built like Rod Tang has been in what, like 300 plus, some absurd number of fights. They call him the Iron Man.
They're not all built like Rod Tang.
There is a difference though.
Rod Tang, who missed weight a bunch lately
and was kind of starting to be criticized
as he making too much money,
living high off that and not focused.
He would say afterwards that the recent weight miss
has turned out to be a huge wake up call.
He hired a full-time nutritionist for the first time.
And that's why you saw him come in so ripped.
Now we didn't get to see that gas tank on full display, but it shows you that this was a
refined version to some degree. And then maybe to your point to care, what one has been trying to
turn this guy into a big star. And I think they've done a pretty good job, but to the point you raised
the weight misses, he did lose to super like in September of 2023 did Rod Ting, right? Rod Ting.
Yes. Yes. And of course he lost to Demetrius Johnson in that weird fight all the way back in 2022.
You know, he's had some, they didn't exactly know what to do with him at times, and even when they did,
he didn't necessarily showed up.
This time he did do all of those things.
This time he crossed all the T's and dotted all the I's and then two left hooks just dispatched with Takeru.
Well, let's see the Bushido and the post-fight press conference afterwards
as Takeru and Rod Tang got together and embraced.
And you love to see that.
Unfortunately, Takeru, we don't have the video,
but he walked out of the arena after the loss with like head down in shame,
which you understand the honor and the pride that comes with
that area of the world and the sporting culture.
Let's now hear from Chotri Sid Yong Tong, the CEO of one of what could be next here for Rod Tang.
See next, man.
Actually, the next fight for Rod Tang is going to be Hagerty.
We're doing Hagerty versus Rod Tang, next one.
But of course, Rod Tang has many fights for him now, you know,
he can call the shots now, you know, he'll find anybody like what time
will find anybody?
It was to Karew afterward, who said who told Chattery
he wants an immediate rematch with Rod Tang.
I don't know if he's going to get that Jonathan Haggerty that you mentioned.
It would be a trilogy. Rod Tang has a knockout and a decision win.
But Rod Tang got stripped of his Muay Thai belt because he missed weight
So this would be an opportunity if they put the title on the line. Also Hagridi's had some difficulties more recently
So I don't know if I mean, I guess they're gonna do it but you know
Well, the crowd went nuts for Rod Tang and watch this bit afterwards
An autograph is this normal? I've never seen this in combat sports. So he just did the I'll sign it with my mouth bit.
You know, whatever works, whatever works, right?
Also, after the fight, Rod Tang was back in his hotel room playing FIFA.
Watch the celebration from a big victory.
Yeah, that's why I like that.
How can I incorporate that into, um, into
MK? You think I gotta stand up and do that more often, right?
I'm just gonna point out soccer, BC. You should learn to watch it.
Well, I mean, I have, you know, I mean, I danced on my couch when Landon Donovan scored
that goal in like 20 times.
Against Algeria? Yeah.
It was a big moment in my life.
Did you watch the US men yesterday?
I don't mess with that shit.
Look at me. They're dog shit. Well. That's probably why
Let's hit anything else on that we had super like by the way missing weight
And then he would drop a three-round decision to Nabil Anane, and it's not normal that super like loses dude that guy's resume
It's ridiculous. He beat both to Kero and Rod tank. He also failed
The weigh-in protocol between hydration yes hydration and it was an issue for him.
Dude, again, I'm going to probably mispronounce the name. I did go back and watch to see how it
was pronounced. You hear it a few different ways on the broadcast, but Masaaki Noiri defeating
Taiwan Chi. Taiwan Chi, I looked this up. I have it here in front of me. According to some of the
betting odds of various places, I won't say exactly where, but you had Noiri closing at plus 600 in certain places
with Taiwen Chai at minus 900 in a bunch of different spots. This was a gigantic upset.
Hit him hard, left hook to the body, then came over the top, dropped him again. Left
hooks doing all of the work here between the main and the co-main, but just to see a guy
who got match made hard apparently early in his one run
Kind of began to turn things around had a rough start in this fight
I wish I looked real good in the first round, but he kind of slowly stuck with it
And then bodied him in that third round huge and you know obviously for the Japanese
It sucked that to Kare lost but to have no eerie win in the co-main was a huge deal for them
So at least the Japanese market got to get their back scratched a little bit.
Yeah. Is there anyone one does get creative?
They're not afraid to put their champions against each other multiple times.
They're not afraid to put Rod Tang in the DJ crossover match.
Is there an MMA.
Fighter personality that would work in another hybrid match with Rod
Tang that one would have access to and also would be the kind of thing
where we'd be like, oh, shit shit that's like mythical matchmaking like is there
like a close to retired small like somebody like Patricio Pipple somebody
like that you could have done something with him but obviously that's that door
is now closed cuz that would have been gnarly if they did a mixed rules match
with those guys yeah I don't know I don't know how that I don't know I don't
know all right well that's one 172 it seems like a win over off also our
Adriana Adriana Marais losing in the first round to Wakamatsu.
In the rematch, and this was for the vacant title, yeah.
I couldn't believe that. I was very surprised by that.
I'm sure I've seen it with anybody else.
And Ed Frolong of Terminator 2, didn't he take over Aoki in that one?
Ummm...
Wait.
No, Aoki fought Foley Yang.
Yeah, from GTN.
The Filipino guy.
Yes, and then went on a tweet spree shitting on Chachri in 1. Did you see that? No! Yeah, in Japanese, but he did it. Yes. And then went on a tweet spree shitting on Chotrian one.
Did you see that? No.
Yeah. In Japanese. But he did it.
They are. I don't know.
I don't quite know what that's all about. But yeah.
All right. Let's go to topic number five.
And it was a death in the combat sports world over the extended weekend.
And this one hit big because we're talking about big George Foreman,
who wasn't just an Olympic gold medalist, two time heavyweight champion
and maybe the author of the greatest comeback in sports history when he won the heavyweight
championship at the age of 45 in 1994 to set a new record. When you factor in the grill selling,
the fact that people forget he had a sitcom on ABC in 1993 called George, we're talking about a
household name over multiple generations, somebody that truly crossed over and at age 76 we said goodbye.
No cause of death from his family as far as what I can see, but I think he was ill for a bit of late.
His family did comment.
Oh what did they say? I didn't see that initially.
I'll pull it up. Give me a minute here to find it.
But Luke, so much you can say about this man's legacy, So much more than the typical death in combat sports.
So from winning the gold medal to earning reportedly upwards of 200 million over three
decades for putting his name on the George Foreman grill, which sold 100 million units,
by the way, to many things that go beyond the boxing ring.
How will you best remember Big George Foreman?
If I may, I would like to read the statement from his family announcing this.
Here's what they write.
This is from the family of George Forman.
Quote, our hearts are broken with profound sorrow.
We announced the passing of our beloved George Edward Forman Sr. who peacefully departed on
that day surrounded by loved ones, a devout preacher, a devoted husband, a loving father
and a proud grand and great grandfather.
He lived a life marked by unwavering faith, humility and purpose, a
humanitarian and Olympian two-time heavyweight champion of the world.
He was deeply respected, a force for good, a man of discipline, conviction,
and a protector of his legacy fighting tirelessly to preserve
his good name for his family.
We are grateful for the outpouring of love and prayers and kindly ask for
privacy as we honor the extraordinary life of a man we were blessed to call our own. Yeah, so no cause of death. I don't know, not that it would matter in the,
but necessarily, but a nice message from the family. For sure. They just hit a lot of people
really hard, rightfully so. What's your George Foreman experience? How will you remember him?
I mean, we grew up as children of the nineties and it was such a big deal that he...
Okay, so if you grew up at the age that me and BC did,
where you miss, of course, everything he did
in the 70s live, it takes time to go back
and watch all that stuff.
You grew up with that as legend.
But then, you know, I mean,
Chuck Bindenhall made a point,
like he beat Michael Moore in what, 94.
By 96, the Olympics were taking place in Atlanta,
and that's when Ali, I'm not trying
to make fun of him in any way, but he didn't have a steady hand from Parkinson's as he was trying to
light the Olympic torch. Just about a year plus before that, Foreman won the heavyweight title
of the world. And they were the same era. And they were the same era. There's a quote, it's often
misunderstood from acclaimed American author F F. Scott Fitzgerald,
that there are no second acts in American life, but it really is not in the way...
He meant it in a different way, but in the way that it's misunderstood, people seem to
think that like, oh, well, there's no way for to get reinvention.
But of course, we know that's not true.
People reinvent themselves all the time.
And there is nobody
almost in sports who has done something like that to the degree that George Foreman did,
where you are just one of these dominant figures beating Joe Frazier. That's the famous fight
where you hear the down goes Frazier, down goes Frazier.
Six knockdowns in two rounds.
Two rounds. And then this, he became a terrifying force. And then of course, Ali beats him in
one of the most important boxing matches ever. But then they
forge a relationship and it changes him over time. He walks
away from the sport comes back 10 years later in his late 30s.
And then at age 45, he won the heavyweight title of the world
guys, I would like to give you some sense of proportion. I am
45. My back hurts if I sleep on my side at night. And he won
a world title at this age.
And that was after taking off 10 years to be a preacher, retiring at 28.
In one of his fights, he had said he'd heard the voice of God that called him to do this.
He lost that contest.
So it was Jimmy Young, 1977 in Puerto Rico. He was hallucinating backstage. He was dehydrated
and he had this moment of clarity
of where he became a born-again Christian and just gave up the sport right there.
And then again, he was gone for such a long time, comes back and does the improbable. And by the
way, when he came back on his comeback tour in the late thirties, he didn't win all those bouts.
Late nineties or late eighties.
Late eighties and early eighties. What I'm trying to say is and then BC and then
when we were in college, everybody and their brother had the Foreman Grill.
Yes.
And he became insanely wealthy from this.
People don't forget, remember this, his children also gained a degree of popularity in part
because all of his kids, including the girls, are named George.
No, just the boys.
I don't think all the girls.
The girls have George or Georgina or some derivation of it.
It's Georgette or something.
Yeah.
They have it in the name.
And that's because his mom had lied to him his whole youth, tolling him a different guy
was his father that she had married after his birth, but never revealing the identity
of his real father who they knew and was a member of their community.
So he felt so betrayed that he never wanted his kids to not be known who they're linked
to.
I'm just saying BC, it's remarkable when BC it's, it's remarkable when someone can achieve.
It's remarkable when they can achieve it different stages, but when they can
achieve in so many different eras in so many different ways, and it's a different
thing that powered George to be a heavyweight champion in the seventies
versus why he became a champion in the nineties, he couldn't have done it.
Trying to be the old guy. No, he couldn't have done it trying to be the
old guy. No. Sorry, the older version of himself. I'm sorry. He had to be who he
was at that time. And then after that, to have pop culture cachet, it's a
remarkable life that won't soon be replicated. No, I mean, and the key part I
wrote a column, a lot of people read it on CBS Sports, where it's not just how
unique his career is that he has two Hall of Fame careers and one or the fact of just the comeback alone, right?
I mean, that was the 30th fight of his comeback. When Michael Moore had picked him, people had left.
He was coming off that kind of disputed loss to Tommy Morrison. Remember, he had lost to Vander Holyfield, although he fought well for the title.
And Moore had just beaten Holyfield.
And Moore beats Holyfield who we thought was done. And Moore is piecing up George for every second of 9 and a half rounds until he lands back to back one two combinations and by the way people forget the one before the knock out put more out on his feet.
We didn't realize it to the degree that like when this knockout happened at George at 45.
I swear Luke for two days.
We thought the fix was in we thought the fix was in and then we have this graphic here of this great George Foreman quote about that.
And this is obviously the crowning moment of his career in 1994, where George said, sure, the fight was fixed.
I fixed it with my right hand.
And if you, you know, you slow down the tape, you can see how short and perfect the big jab, which put more right in front of him.
And then that beautiful right hand.
And that's, you know, the biggest win, the biggest moment of his career.
But he was also in the rumble of the jungle arguably the most popular most famous fight of all time
and it was an epic self implosion and it led into even though he had the war with Ron Lyle he
knocked out Frazier in the rematch it led into that Jimmy Young fight in his life transformation
so I think the cool the real crux of George Foreman's impact on society beyond boxing was
that transformation.
He was a sparring partner for Sonny Liston when he turned pro in the 60s,
and he adopted that bully menacing mindset.
George Foreman dropped out of school in junior high in the segregated South,
like came from poverty, got in trouble as a kid, becomes this killer in the ring,
and he's got that mentality, and he's got a hard heart,
and going through that process of becoming he's got a hard heart and
going through that process of becoming a preacher or a born-again Christian and then only getting back into boxing because they couldn't afford a new youth center and he was praying and basically like I guess the only way we can do this if I go back and fight
They didn't take him seriously as in the comeback for a long time. There were a lot of fights
He had 30 fights right to get to the more fight. And he delivers that moment.
That alone is awesome.
But what do we consider the two greatest eras in heavyweight history
that don't compare with any other? 70s and 90s.
He's the only guy who was in both and was on top in both.
And the fact that he put on the same pair of trunks
that he imploded in Zaire against Ali, gassed out, frustrated,
gets stopped in the eighth round,
down, you know, just an incredible,
one of the biggest upsets in the history of the sport,
because people thought Ali was done at that point.
And he puts those trunks back on 20 years later
and beats Moore with those trunks
in a fight that he was losing every second of up
for nine and a half rounds.
I mean, it's just such a remarkable heart transfer transformation, life
transformation for him to have authored those two careers within one and
everything he went through.
And that's not even counting the grill and the fame.
I really think that he leaned into that message when he was in his 40s
fighting of age is not a number.
You can do anything you want.
He literally became this inspirational figure to like everyone.
He looked like your grandpa telling jokes, right?
Like he's coming in there with those trays of cheeseburgers
at the press conferences and his game was,
I mean, he always was not a,
even though he's an Olympic gold medalist,
he always was not a traditional boxer.
He always threw these crazy hard, almost arm punches.
But he took on Ken Norton style in his comeback where he had
that, you know, that shell guard that was awkward and he
became like it's unfortunate.
The Mike Tyson fight didn't happen in the 90s.
There was a HBO card where they put both in the co-main
and main and they both won and they were going to match
them together.
But he fought as many people as you can get in the ring
with him and who he reinvented himself within the 90's in that era of
killers and became the lineal heavy which it's mind blowing
it's it's insane. Yeah, it's your life has seasons as you
get all it's hard to appreciate this if you're in your 20's
but your life has seasons and a lot of times like seasons
happen in a way where it's a repudiation of the last one or
it's a withering of it.
And sometimes the most successful people are the ones who don't fight it. They kind of
ride it out on what it is and then decide it's going to, you know, let the seasons take
them where they're supposed to go almost like...
That's our careers, Luke.
To a degree, to a degree. But I just mean he did it to the highest level possible. Everything
about him was improbable.
Everything about his success seemed impossible, and yet all of it was real.
And he got that 2023 biography movie that that was a Hollywood script.
That was his life. It fit perfectly.
Also, if I may, if you've never seen it, when we were kings.
Yes, we were kings.
Excuse me. I forget the exact title.
I rewatched it maybe a few months ago.
It's the documentary that they made
in the lead up to Ali and Foreman fighting
in Rumble in the Jungle.
It is a spectacular work of art.
Won an Oscar, yeah.
Let's watch quickly.
This was George two years ago at the age of 74
when he hit the heavy bag.
I think we played this on Have You Seen This Shit
After It Happened, but-
Big George can't-
Man, my dad's still got it.
You still got that power, dad?
Power doesn't age.
Are you ready?
Let me see what you got, Jack.
Tell me what you got, George.
Yeah, I'm on it.
Come on, let's go.
Let's go, Jack.
Let's go.
74.
Yeah, let's go.
Woo!
Oh!
Dude.
What? Dude.
Dude. Big George was a terrifying puncher.
Rosita, can you show that graphic of everyone that he ultimately faced?
Look at this, like who's who over a 30 year period.
Ali, Joe Frazier twice, Evander Holyfield, Ken Norton, who he knocked out in two rounds.
Ron Lyle, one of the greatest action fights of all time.
And then in his comeback, he beats Burt Cooper, Dwight Muhammad,
Calvi, Jerry Cooney, Chevalo, Michael Moore, Tommy Morris and Shannon Briggs.
Yeah, Jerry Cooney told me about that fight.
He was unequivocal that he had never been hit by anybody.
Oh, and he hit him with that walking uppercut, that sneaky one.
The guy told me that four men hit him in a way where he
there like not there's not even a close second
we can even think of that hit him his heart. He fell face first on the finish and by the way
the people were clowning that fight wouldn't happen because they were like 40 and 39 it was
called two geezers at Caesar's that's what people were calling it back then. Dude Jerry Cooney is a
big dude. Oh he's like 6'7 yeah. Yeah like see he would always come in and when we were in serious
XM he would do the show after me by the the way, nicest guy in the world. Absolutely.
And I remember asking him like, what was that like?
And he was just like, I don't even really remember much.
Like it just was, it's a black hole in my memory for the most.
Jerry Cooney is the sweetest man.
Yeah.
You would never know.
He was a, you know, nearly won the heavyweight championship.
He was terrifying too.
And then for big George, just sit him down like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Anyway, hey, let's hear from our first listener.
Let's do it.
This is from at Eric Bolden.
The difference between the 2022 and 2025 atmosphere at the O2 in London is huge.
Do you think it is because of a lack of exciting British superstars on the card?
They're talking of course about Saturday's UFC London Fight Night card,
or that the fight results, or has the bubble began to burst the market?
So look, we talk about this, it's everything at once,
but they're specifically jacked up those ticket prices.
The public seemed to say, we're not going to pay this if the biggest names aren't on there.
And although this fight had two very important fights for their particular divisions atop it, and I'm fine with that,
I was fine with the undercard, it wasn't bad like bad is in this era.
I also get why things went down the way they did in London.
Everybody was unhappy.
Even Adam Cattarall, the journalist who is always like pro UFC.
He even tweeted out that that was the most lifeless atmosphere
he's been a part of there.
That stuff does matter if you're going to jack the prices,
but you're not giving Patty, you're not giving, you know,
whomever right there.
And also they just didn't have, you know, Tom Aspinall wasn't fighting.
Patty, to your point, Patty wasn't fighting. Big names weren't fighting. I mean, you know Brady did really well
But I think he's just at the beginning of having big fights and so that takes time to become a really known attraction
You know people say is the bubble bursting. I don't think the bubbles bursting
Until people are just stopped buying tickets
Nothing's bursting. Okay, but there's some smoke.
People are expressing discontent.
Fine. But I keep making this point to people.
Like, nothing that you say in terms of like,
I don't like this means anything to any monopoly.
The only thing that means anything to them is your abandonment of the business.
You don't think they don't look in the crowd and see the gaps and that there were like before the main event?
I think if they pitch another tent in London and it makes a good gate,
I don't think they care.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
I like pitching a tent once in a while.
You know what I mean?
It's not what I mean.
You fucking gross piece of shit.
I also like that.
OK, let's go to our second question from at spot three sixteen.
Where do you write Sean Brady against the best grapplers?
Some people said he became dog Astana after this performance.
It's a little bit more like American jujitsu based.
You know, it's it's got a lot of it.
Do he hit a society in round one?
He hit two doubles.
He hit the one kind of it's not called a crackdown,
but it's where you get behind and you break the back of the knees
to the pole them and then use his own hook to I mean,'s got so many different entries. Again his top half is phenomenal.
Obviously I think Islam, his MMA grappling is probably the best in the overall. It's probably
best in MMA. But dude Brady's got to be top five for overall all grappling. Again I said his top
half to me is like either maybe the best or right at it but overall skill who would be who else would you
put in there you did Belal you put in there Marat no Marups got horse
got just the takedowns they have much else so sorry Armin Sarukin same you say Hamzah
I Hamzah for sure Hamzah for sure I, you can again has control problems
of top half in women's MMA Luke
Kayla what she can get it. Oh, you're talking about wrestling. Um, so
Suarez but but it was you know, not effective in that title fight
Suarez as well when she want well, you know, there was a time anyway, you should have Jango to a degree
Yes, you can use it to agree. But again, there is nobody and then again Dern has obviously phenomenal jujitsu, but like really terrible takedowns
Yes, so we're forgetting on the men's side. That's just an absolute wrestling machine. We've lost a bunch of really interesting ones over time
We lost Jacques Aray's like guys who were world champion grapplers
We lost a bristle for dooms and Frank Mears and Josh Barnett's and stuff like that
Islam Mahath is pretty Islam is up there.
Habib would have been, but, you know, obviously he's not there anymore.
Islam is probably again, your overall best grappler.
Your overall game is probably number one.
But Brady is fucking up there, man.
I thought Umar was up there, but then Marab was like, Yo, hold this.
Marab was like, hold that L. Yeah.
All right. Let's hear from the next fan at flannels and Jits.
You know, this guy walks around.
No, he's probably laying down in pajama pants all day long, like I do working from home.
But I don't think who do you think showers less?
This guy. All right.
Do you watch?
Did you watch the NCAA wrestling championship?
Where does Wyatt Hendrickson upsetting Gable
Stevenson for the heavyweight NCAA title there, rank among
the greatest upsets in NCAA history.
It's not quite Larry Owing versus Dan Gable, but it's not nothing.
Luke.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, that was, that's historically one of the biggest ones.
Dan Gable wasn't supposed to lose that ever.
And he did, um, you know, also Bubba Jenkins winning his senior year after
leaving Penn state and going Arizona State and then
Beating the guy who I forget who he beat for Penn State in them in the finals to win the national title
That was big. They're saying this one is the biggest
I don't know enough about NCAA wrestling to know like the history of matchups and like the odds and whatnot
What do you make of the conspiracy theories coming out that Gable lost on purpose just to push over Donald Trump in wrestling?
I don't say how that like what's the relationship.
I tried to understand it too.
I didn't fully get it but almost like to create a moment that the world would come look at
and sacrifice himself on the altar of yeah, I don't know if I'm in here but he is getting
ripped for because of the fact that Gable went to WWE and failed went to the NFL and
failed and then came back to college despite having been an Olympic medalist in a multi-time
year he had won three national titles and the the guy that upset him, he had beat Soundly.
I mean, it happens. It happened to Dan Gable. It happened. It was a big moment. Dude, the call was
amazing. Can I just say this? I know people get bitter at Daniel Cormier for his UFC commentary.
He's so good at wrestling. I'm just going to say it. I think he likes wrestling a lot more than he
likes MMA. And I don't think that's crazy to say. I think Dana likes boxing and sla wrestling a lot more than he likes MMA and I don't think it's crazy to say I think I think Dana
Likes boxing and slapping a lot more than mixed martial arts right now. That's true. Like you could see it in the I agree
I agree. I think it's crazy. Anyway, this one is if not number one
It's it's it's up there
Is it okay for the play-by-play announcer to scream like matter of fact that this is the biggest upset it?
reminded me of when Gus Johnson said that
Seth Petrozzelli jabbing Kimbo slice was the biggest upset in MMA history
It was a big one
Say things in the moment. They'll say I love you after one night of sex
That wasn't the thing that really could remember from that people remember about Gus Johnson's MMA calls
It was when he was watching the Nashville Brawl and goes these things happen
And it turned out right by the way gentlemen were on live television
Right. Um, also, what do television. Turned out he was right.
Also, what do you make of the controversy of the Gable match going last?
But then that meant that the first match of the entire show was that Penn State
kid trying to go on the five titles five times because of the covid year.
I mean, it's always a debate about which which ones you want to put in which place.
And they're trying to like this is not the first time they've done this.
Why can't they just put them in order of the best storylines and what matters?
I don't know.
I don't understand why they can't mix them match.
Why does it mean they can't have to kind of restart on the same line?
They did the same thing when Kyle Dake, so Kyle Dake won four national titles and he
did in four different weight classes.
He went up each year.
His senior year, they moved his match to the finals.
It might have been against David Taylor.
I'm not even sure, but they moved that one to the finals. So they've done it before and it clearly worked out.
There was some debate about that, about whether or not the kid from Penn State, Carter, I
forget how to pronounce his last name, whether him going for five should have mattered. But
I don't know. It seemed like it worked out to me. ESPN, by the way, the wrestling community,
not too pleased with the ESPN plus service. I mean, imagine that this would be somehow,
you know, something that they didn't love but anyway.
It was, but it seemed like it was a really big night for, where was it? Did you know where the venue was?
It's usually in the Midwest somewhere. I don't actually know where it was.
I mean Trump was Matt's side, like this was a big deal.
That wasn't that surprising to me. The fact that Elon was there, I was like, don't you have shit to do? Don't you have stuff to do?
Things are running efficiently right now, Luke.
So he had time on his hands. I've got people to fire.
Yeah, there we go.
Do we have more questions from these great people at J.D.
Anal Fo 420? Wow.
Yeah, I know that guy impressed by Sebastian Fondora's
KO of Cordell Booker on Saturday in the PBC card.
I got to tell you, BC, I'm sure you did a great job.
I did not see many highlights of this on my timeline.
It was an efficient show, though. Three fights in two hours and 15 minutes on and in and out on and off. And although they did, they did screw Terrell
Gautier of a decision went over Elijah Garcia. He did miss way by two tenths of a pound.
Okay. But the main event, Sebastian Fondor ultimately put it on a Cordell Booker who's
a small Southpaw tried to box him early. I'll give Fundora credit once he once he made some adjustments and landed some big
power shots, he got him out of there.
Top ranks Xander Zayas was there.
They did. They tried to do a face off, but
the powers that be wouldn't let them.
But Xander Zayas is the number one contender now, the mandatory contender for Fundora.
So his promoter, meaning Fundora's promoter,
Samson Lukowitz, did say after the fight
that they're they have a good relationship with top rank.
They think that could be the next fight.
Do that be a great. Yeah, I'd love to see that for them.
You know, that'd be a great one.
But you like we said in the preview, you could put Fundora
against in against anyone at one fifty four and it's going to be great.
I want to get him eventually into a Virgil Ortiz fight if he's still champion.
I want him to fight Zuh again, Thurman, Charlo on and on.
I mean, this division is great and fun.
But did you see the highlights?
Did you see the fight at all or fund or his performance?
I saw the finish. OK.
I didn't see much. Yeah, he put it together.
He put it on him. He put him on there.
He's just Ramos, one of the co-main.
That could be an interesting opponent.
I've never seen a praying mantis integrate this well into human society
and then perform ably.
But but Sebastian Fundora has done it. Yeah. Yeah.
Almost one year off.
Shout out to that on the PBC brought to you by by BC on the call.
Thank you. What we got any other questions from these fine people
from Kevin underscore Mitchell underscore 79
with the insurgency of new talent making its way into the through the UFC.
What are your top five camps right now in MMA
and what makes each of those camps special
and what they offer to the fighters?
Look, who's the current super team at the moment?
ATT ATT is probably up there fighting.
Fighting nerds is up there.
OK, what if we go ATT one fighting nerds to does that put CKB at three?
CKB is up there.
What do you got? Long Island, Luke.
Kill Cliff over CKB.
Kill Cliff probably is a fair call over CKB.
Are we disrespecting Ray Ray Longo go here? Yeah long go MMA. Yeah, or dis Fortis these are
Fortis is very good, but I think they've got more guys who are like sub top five
Aka needs to like re rejuvenate. They still are operating. I just don't think it you know, they don't like do we consider ankle live an aka fighter?
I'm not alive. Sorry, it's a lot much of to a degree a degree to a degree
Yeah, okay
I don't think it's as you know, it's not as primary place
But they wanted to know what these the question asked or wanted to know what these teams are specific
I'm kind of different like some guys like, you know, the fighting nerds have this incredible creativity
ATT just comprehensively good coaching and facility same with kill cliff shout out to King Mo by the Ray Longo
I think has a special eye for talent talent development
You know so it's like it's the in between where you can get a lot of good work in there
But it's not a crazy ass super team
You know it's all like what is the right fit for you kind of situation a boutique coach like Trevor Whitman
Who can take you to the top?
Both Vegas to Syndicate.
Oh, Syndicate and Extreme Couture.
Oh my God, dude, Extreme Couture.
That could be a top three.
Would they be in the top three?
Probably so, dude.
I mean, again, like I was actually
talking to Eric Nixon.
He's never going to forgive us.
I was texting him over the weekend
because I was researching a guy.
I was wondering if it was one of his
and it wasn't.
I won't say who it is, but the guy
was like he was at he was at
Extreme Couture for a year
and then went to another gym
and he was like, hey, he's a good guy, but I didn't even work with him.
Like there are just so many incredible fighters
coming and going, some work with this coach,
some work with that coach.
It really is just what you're looking for,
what teammates speak to you, what your needs are.
But I think fighting nerds to me just have this kind of
like striking creativity and savagery.
And joy, they bring a lot of joy.
It's very special and unique, yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Good shit from the people.
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I spaced out there.
Hey, we got one more segment for you and it's when your boy BC scours the globe
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lows, the in-between and combat sports.
Really just trying to get as ridiculous as we can to make Luke Thomas emote.
This one's called, have you seen this shit
did you just let out a wet fart during the have you seen this shit intro? I burped that's why
I think you burped with your a-hole listen let me explain something to you I
will claim the the bombs that I dropped. Okay. I burped I really did
Oh, there you go. I mean now that you mentioned it though
I might squeeze one out just a big you gag and cough on air this room just fills with this disgusting
Oh, let's go to the Tories about to find out what I ate for dinner last night
Can you smell what the Luke was cooking there big weekend for Tom Aspin all to kick it off
Not only was Aspinall shown on the screen here
during the UFC London card.
This was so fucking good.
Holding up a duck aimed at John Jones.
Look at the host, I just wanna point out,
just leave this picture up.
Is this the most British group of males
you've ever seen in your life?
Doesn't it look like Bobby the Brain Henan
on top left above him?
You know what, the guy, okay,
you would see where it says at Jedi Goodman
in the upper left hand corner.
The guy next to it looks like some version of Paulie Malanaji. Yes behind us, but every other guy looks like the most British man alive
I just want to point that out that kind of looks bronze stater young bronze center on the right right like
Yeah, but only after he's been in like someone's political science department as a TA for the last couple
He told us he was a high school athlete. You still don't believe him though
I believe that the question is like, did you go to high
school with the kind of people I went to high school with?
Because if you did, you weren't an athlete.
Also, Aspenall posted this pic with Hunter Campbell of UFC
and Mr. Aspenall with the quote, stay tuned.
I'm tired of these non-updates.
All right.
Well, let's get an update from the boss himself.
Here's Dana White before UFC London
In British mixed martial arts and I suppose world martial arts right now is what's going on in the heavyweight division because there's British interest
With Tom Aspinall come on man. Yeah, that's give it give us a little bit of something
Can the fans get excited about the super fight?
I'll tell you what I've been telling you since day one, the fight's gonna happen.
The fight's gonna happen.
It's just a matter of when now,
and getting it signed and done,
and the fight will happen.
Do you have a cutoff point in your mind
of when to get that done by?
No, it's gonna happen.
It's...
It's done, but it's not done.
Not done enough to sit right here now
and announce it and give you a date, but the fight's not done. Not done enough to sit right here now and announce it and give you a date.
But the fight's going to happen.
With that then, if I could just poke it a little bit more, is it more on logistics rather than...
They would go on and just continue to walk around it without stepping on it.
What does that actually mean?
Nothing.
Does that mean we got the money and now we just need the location?
Or does that mean they both want it but we haven't hit the number yet?
Because that's a problem if you haven't hit the number yet.
It doesn't mean anything. I don't know what the holdup is but like all these things like stay tuned, big news coming, here we go.
So him saying it's done but it's not done, that doesn't give you optimistic hope like it did a lot of people on the internet. I know it doesn't it doesn't change anything. I've been kind of at a point emotionally. Yeah.
50 50. Did that change anything about 50 50? Not not really.
Don't talk to me about the birthing pain. Show me the head.
That's it. That's it. I mean, I again, I'm not saying in any way it won't happen. I absolutely
hope it's the most important fight they can make. But let me know when there's a real update. All
this other cryptic shit I don't care about. Well, Luke, UFC London proved to be a big week
for what I love the most. Real, recognizing real. Let's go backstage in
the locker room before the main event. Joanna Champion showing some Polish love
to her compatriot. This is national pride here for sure. I love that friendship, don't you?
I'm sure it's good for each of them and for that I'm happy'm happy for him. Okay, well, you know Mike Owen's media?
We love that guy.
He had a huge week.
In fact, he was in a hotel room with JJ.
Wow, look at this guy.
Sitting down for an interview, and it looked like he did well.
So shout out to our boy from Liverpool there, and...
I'd like to point out, he got an interview with her before I did.
How about that?
That's true, that's true,
because you don't want it, Luke, all right?
Also, Patti Pimblit gave us this fist bump moment
What do you make of this? Is this like should they keep kayfabe alive?
Here's the UFC weigh-in to to Ilya, right? Ilya Tupori is back there
I mean they could have been talking ish, but they would they show I mean, what do I want?
Do I want them to fist fight? Yeah, exactly. It's like they what are they supposed to do right there?
Like, you know, there was also a real recognizing real bonus at the airport when Diego Sanchez and Bryce
Mitchell put their heads together I
Hope they
Hope they find BJ and help I'm not gonna talk bad. I just whatever all right Luke
But who in the UFC was the realest this week you asked me off-camera, right? Yeah, Jillian Robertson was
Oh hell yeah.
So she's ripping a bong while in, what do you call that, the sauna?
Yeah, it's just a, it's like a portable sauna.
Mm-hmm.
Well, now Luke, is she your favorite fighter now?
Yeah.
I brought, I saw this on social last week.
I said, PC, you better have it in PC's feed.
You should fire Gaff and do the main card minute with her.
She can just join us both.
Shit. You know what? You could fire Gaff and do the main card minute with her. She can just join us both. You know what you could fire gaff and break up with your girl.
And then Jillian Robertson can be both the main card minute cohost and your
girl.
Wow. That's not, that's not right to say.
I know.
On call.
That's uncalled for.
You know, what's uncalled for to a female Scottish NHL fan.
I'm really sorry.
I came all the way from Scotland.
I thought the Leafs were going to win two games.
They lost.
It must have been the fact that the guys were so overwhelmed that the size of my massive
fucking check.
They lost concentration.
I am sorry.
They let me sit on the bench.
That's why they lost today.
They were overcome by Scottish pheromones.
They didn't know what they were doing.
That's a fat bastard from the.
I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what.
I bet she's fun to party with.
Okay. They were overcome by Scottish pheromones. They didn't know what they were doing. That fat bastard from the...
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I bet she's fun to party with.
Okay, yes.
I bet she's fun to party with.
Uh, Luke, have you ever seen race relations solve through dancing?
Not exactly.
Watch this young gentleman.
Is this crapper about to style?
This is a great moment right here, by the way. Okay, alright, alright, alright. Like, who put the honky in the middle? Is this crapper about to style? Hehehehe
This is a great moment right here, by the way.
Okay. All right. All right. All right.
All right. All right. Let's let the honky-
Oh, shit!
Oh, shit!
This is like the movie Front Loose All Over again.
This is great.
No!
Wow.
We also have video of him when he- By the way, though, I just want to point out, it is typically in these exchanges, Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I know you're on vacation. You're okay. Okay. Yeah, you know what? This is why I don't go on cruises
Throw him overboard just let it okay
Well, that's so good all right, I'll remember Alec Baldwin shot that person and killed him unfortunately on the movie set loose tragic
He's got a story to tell about seeing his ex, his wife's ex-boyfriend's dong.
I've seen one of the loves of her life naked.
Not the love of her life.
He was one of the loves of her life. He was a very important boyfriend of hers.
And we went to go see him on Broadway and he was naked.
And he had his bits out.
We went to go see Take Me Out, the musical that our dear friend Scott Ellis directed.
And all these baseball players were in the locker room, and they were all turned around
naked with their dogs hanging out.
And he's there, her boyfriend, and I recognize him.
I've met him before.
And when he turns around with his personality hanging, I'm like, oh, oh, oh, okay.
You hear like a clarinet hanging from his pants.
The guy literally turns around and we're all like, ah!
Whoa! I hope that you remember this more than I do.
It kept going Luke, but I think you got the point.
Does that not remind you of my Cliff Robinson story from 2006?
Why couldn't he have been the one that got shot?
I told you that story, right? Where I went to Annette's game during Cliff, the late Clifford Robinson from Yukon's last season.
He just had an absolute anaconda in his dungarees.
We went to the locker room before the game.
It was like a regular season game against the Bucks.
And it was me, my co-worker for we were working for ESPN at the time
and two female journalists came in, but they didn't look professional.
They look like college age girls, but they were they were doing the job.
And they went right up to Cliff in the corner and we're interviewing him.
And within 30 seconds, while having a conversation he dropped his pants and his underwear like in one motion and just stood there with um with an elephant trunk yeah yeah and in
the conversation just kept going and it kept going and it was so awkward. That's assault. It was so awkward.
Wow.
Okay.
There you go.
Let's keep it going here.
So this is Sky Sports Austria and this is a commercial break.
Watch what this makeup lady comes running in with.
She put a line on the guy's hand.
And he blew it Luke.
Maybe it's real and riddle in the legal to snort everyone before you go on to you legal schmigel
I don't know but I think that was that was weird, right?
People do drugs be fairly they do I tell you
Weird that the person was doing drugs it's weird that he had a woman run up to him put the
aforementioned drug on his head. I don't know I'm not any kind of television star, but I've been around some that were that's actually the least
Surprising you hit the weed pen before the broadcast not on the air, right? I'm dude
I'm just telling you these dogs who are big on TV. These are weird people
All right, were you in big into monster trucks as a kid?
Watch the end of this rally right here, it's wild
Trucks as a kid like I've been to a couple rallies watch the end of this rally right here. It's wild
I've never wanted to live my wife
They're so loud you have to bring
That's definitely not a cyber truck. Okay
All right Watch this mom wants this monster truck and then this ass
Remember last week that kid had a whole lot of those water cups in the back seat. Yeah, he escalated
Bro, you know what happened last time just drive careful, please
Did it for the gram, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's go to the punch machine.
We always have fun with that international style here.
Oh, look at this big guy.
Oh my.
That's so good.
That's so good.
Dude, he had the weirdest build ever.
He was built only on top.
Yes, kind of like Sean Brady, but he's a, you know, yeah, John Brady little more muscular.
Yeah, little more muscular.
Yeah, Luke.
I have long said that growing shots make the world go around.
There's nothing more funny, right?
Anything he will earn henceforth is going to be garnished by the Department of Justice.
This building is as an example, while he still holds this,
he's barred by that federal court judgment
from ever having an active role in the management
of any property at all.
If somebody moves into this building
by that federal judgment, he has to use it.
Let's head to the baseball field.
Or softball, excuse me.
He sounds like the grape lady.
Yes, I know exactly. I mean, like that's tough to happen to anybody, but can't like moan audibly, right? You gotta hold that in.
I definitely feel like the moaning is only acceptable if they have to call an ambulance.
Okay.
You know what I mean? Like I've seen people get so injured acceptable if they have to call an ambulance. Okay. You know what I mean?
Like I've seen people get so injured
that they actually have to call medical authorities.
Moaning is acceptable in that case.
All right, we got one more for you.
Yeah, so this is what I love.
Yeah, you know, that's natural selection.
That's natural selection.
This was, oh yeah, get his ass.
These are people that should not be procreating
There's this one. There's a bunch of awesome dudes that always send me crazy rugby hits. Oh my god, but this one isn't a hit Luke
It's a wedgie
You know what you got an atomic wedgie they got different rules in that Wow
Okay, that's something right there. Just you know, they don't fuck around a rugby man
Look, we all unfortunately have to go to wakes and funerals at times.
Do you typically go out for a drink after just to let off some steam?
I mean, this is I don't have a post funeral routine.
OK, let's see this, guys.
OK. OK.
We're going to lose our sponsors.
New gift ideas for Tukey for the holidays.
Luke, okay.
Oh, hell yeah.
Real Faygo accent to our scent.
Excuse me, scent.
That's hilarious.
Hell yeah.
My juggalo baby.
Remember, by the way, hold on, I want to say something.
Yeah.
I took a dump on kiss and kiss fans on my last appearance on Submission Radio.
My mentions for like two weeks have been angry kiss fans.
Wow. And I want them all to know, I think you're pathetic fucking losers.
And I'm glad I hurt your feelings. Eat my shit.
Eat a mile of my shit to smell my ass up close.
You fucking loser.
I mean, I agree with the sentiment, but the delivery was heavy.
That was that was what I want. I want all of your tears sustain me.
Like Scott Tenderman.
The karate demonstration.
This will end well.
Get a little fire involved.
A lot of fat guys trying to do like, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Oh God.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
We're watching a kid fucking scream here.
I mean, we didn't start the fire
It was always burning. Never forget right? Let's never forget how to brush your teeth the correct way
Actually, you're brushing your teeth wrong
And that's why you see most people think the correct movement is from the bottom to the top
No in reality the best way
To get all the gunk out of there.
You gotta really get those hard to read choices, you know what I mean?
Let's get this fashion update.
Now I do not endorse this message.
Is he gonna do some fucking hate message?
Okay.
Okay, that is, I can't, I mean who's even making this stuff?
This is not funny anymore.
This is too far.
We're gonna get fired.
Too far.
Big weekend to close here for MK favorite Mike Perry
Who's in our intro when he says shout out to morning combat? That's right
He did have no no footage here of the knockouts because I don't even know if we can show it
We get hit by copyright by everybody
But he did have dirty boxing card over the weekend and he debuted let's listen to this his new co-owner is John Bones Jones
And they started a fuck-ton
co-owner is John Bones Jones.
And they started a fuck town. Aspen.
All right.
Man, I gotta tell you, I didn't know.
We talked about this before.
I'm so surprised to see him back with the college.
I guess I didn't know what the story is there.
Yep. And finally, Mike Perry and coach Latorre
were approached on the sidewalk, Luke,
with an armed forces like offer.
Me. What's up, bro?
How you doing, man?
Hey, what's up, man?
How you doing?
Can I ask you a favor?
What's up?
I got a chick that want to come to the hotel with me tonight.
She want to run a train on her?
You want to go with me?
What?
Absolutely not.
No.
No, my wife right here, man.
Why would you ask me that right there?
I just want you to just come, you know, come get you.
See, she right here.
You see how she got a big booty in here? Absolutely not. I can't do that to my wife. I'm his wife. You sure, come get you see she right here. Please. Yeah, she got a big booty
You sure y'all you don't you don't want to get
Okay, all right, thank you look very similar the time that you were asked if you
Reminds me of my military service
That's all the shit we got this week. What are we getting here? And a minus come on. That's a C plus. Oh, come on. That was
a great cake lady. There was, you know, no, no elder abuse.
There was a fat punch machine guy. Hey, that's the show we
got for the fat punch machine guy was great. Yeah, fantastic.
We will be back by the way, Friday from home 11 a.m. Eastern.
We're going to what is this weekend?
Of Mexico City
or second pan and or second house I put it or second Moreno yes will you have
some content worth watching on the Luke Thomas sub stack slash YouTube network
yes I interviewed Corey Sandhagen that interview will be out I'll have my
breakdown just for the Sean Brady people out there and yeah so cool news later
this week.
Can't wait to see that. If you check out the Brian Campbell experience this week,
we got Edgar Berlanga, Boots, Anis, oh, nice.
Brandon Moreno. Oh, nice.
It should be a good week of content right there.
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That's what I'm talking about.
What does your girlfriend think about your hobbies?
She loves it, Luke. She loves it.
You know what? I want to ask.
Do you think we could get her on the show?
Yeah, can we talk to her?
She would 100% come on.
The other thing is we hung out Saturday night, man.
We had that early London card. We still had it. You're not a great boyfriend
You're good, you're an amazing producer and you're great on this show you're a you're the Osama bin Laden boyfriend
So be just the worst. Okay, that'll be enough. That's our great show today
Thanks for Kent to Ken and Nadir for jacking up the AC for us
Do you know they they were on their phones the whole hands in like a like a winter park?
They were on their phones the whole time by the way
I showed on my shirt that would do that shirt is bad and they go
I don't know who that is and I said to myself
Holy fucking Jesus
We got to fix this sorry about
Never watched combat sports and you're talking about a fight that was like 10 years before they were born.
Hagler-Herns, like they haven't even heard of it?
They don't watch combat sports.
Luke, it's not, to quote a great American, Armenian,
it's not their fault they were born in 19.
It's your fault that you're here.
It's your fault that the show is still going.
Let's end it, okay?
Thank you for your service.
Thank you for watching.
Take care of yourself and we'll see you on Friday.
We're outta here.