MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Long Island: Rodriguez def. Ortega, Murphy def. Tate | Garcia vs. Tank? | Ep 324

Episode Date: July 18, 2022

On Episode 324 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian recap a great weekend of combat sports. First, they breakdown an important UFC Long Island event. Yair Rodriguez earned the win over Brian Ortega, but only after a TKO due to injury. What did we learn from their abbreviated bout? Where does Matt Schnell's comeback against Sumudaerji rank among all-time UFC comebacks? Lauren Murphy scored a unanimous decision win over Miesha Tate at UFC Long Island. Where do both fighters go from here? Ryan Garcia stopped Javier Fortuna in the sixth round of their DAZN main event. Is Garcia vs. Tank next? (10:30) - Rodriguez wins after Ortega injury (24:00) - Rodriguez vs. Emmett? (35:00) - Matt Schnell’s comeback submission (47:45) - Murphy vs. Tate (57:00) - Ryan Garcia stops Fortuna (75:00) - Dm's from Donks Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is our life. This is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. It is Monday, July 18th, 2022, and MK is back in studio. Hello, everyone. How are you doing on this Monday, which I already kind of said it was Monday. Hi, my name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of your hosting duo. I join you in the same place as my brethren right here to my left, the King of Connecticut. It's Brian Campbell. What's up, BC?

Back in person, Luke. I'm doing great, thank you. Back where we belong, and I think people will find out today, back with a bang. Back with a bang, like bang energy drink. We have a lot to get to today. Let's see. Which the staff was very – I mean, shout out to Carly.

The staff prepared your way. You know what I mean? But if they were really sharp, they would have gotten me the rain energy drink. Bang is my backup. You know what I'm saying? Bang is your road, bitch. Bang is my groupie. Not really the thing I go to first. In any event, we have a lot to get to today. Of course, UFC on ABC3 will be the focus, plus Ryan Garcia. Oh, he's back, dude.

Dude, he looked good. He looked really, really sharp on Saturday on DAZN. So we'll plus Ryan Garcia. Oh, he's back, dude. Dude, he looked good. He looked really, really sharp on Saturday on DAZN. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we have your DMs. I am told we have an epic collection of BC's feces today. With that 1978 Billiards Hall smoker's laugh that you had. I think I got the whooping cough is what I got. Did you have a good weekend?

You know, I did. My wife's away on business, but, you know, it was the dads. It was the sons. You know, we just bro-ed out, okay? I know I saw your very disparaging movie review. I cannot believe you liked that, dude. I'm shocked. I went in there being like, okay, this is going to be.

In reference to, what is it called? Thor for Love and. Love and Thunder, yeah. I have no reference point. I do not like superhero movies. I don't watch them. But taking your son, going to the IMAX. Okay.

I didn't go to IMAX. I went to the regular. Getting, you know, just a lot of candy and then getting the icy on top of it. And then when you order the icy, telling the lady, look, I need it Savage style. I need all of it. I need the Bukkake Bowl. Like, just, you know what I mean? Just whatever.

It was a great time out. I'm not saying the movie was overly award-winning, but it had big names. It did have big names. So for me, taking a test drive of that type of movie, I was like, all right. It's by far the worst Thor movie. Is it the same thing, though, as people who didn't grow up watching episodes 4, 5, and 6 of Star Wars, and then they were around in the late 90s and they stumbled into the freaking Phantom Menace and the damn second one that sucked and they're like,

oh, these are pretty damn good. A little bit. Anybody who liked the new Thor movie is probably someone who told you that Matrix 3 was the best of the three Matrixes. Matrixes, I should say. It's a terrible movie. In part because, okay, the Guns N' Roses stuff was pretty great.

I'll give them that. The cameos were good, right? Russell Crowe was... They made the orgy joke 50,000 times. And it wasn't even that good the first time. Melissa McCarthy. I mean, that was... It was all right. Dude, it was like a bad SNL sketch that wouldn't end. And I think that's why I liked it.

I gotta say, Thor Ragnarok is a million times better. Cameraman's nodding his head, rightarok is a million times better. Cameraman's nodding his head, right? It's a million times better. I did ask my son yesterday, what's the best movie you've ever seen in a theater? Okay. Right?

He said Thor Love and Thunder. He said, Dad, he goes the combination of the IMAX and hanging out with you. It was a moment. So don't Mr. He-Boss this movie right now. I almost walked out of the theater. I was like, I didn't know. I will say this. I'll say two things.

Why? Because they empowered the woman? Is that why? No, no. Because she didn't make you a sandwich? Although, did you buy that romance at all? It was the most forceful non-sensual. It was better than her and Hayden Christensen in episode two.

That ain't saying much. Okay. That ain't saying much. I'll say two things in defense of that movie. One, Christian Bale is awesome. Dude, he hammered out that Satan role. Christian Bale is awesome. He's awesome.

He's good in everything, but he's good in this, too. The other one I'll say is the worst movie I saw over the weekend was not Thor 11. There you go. Although it fucking sucked. No, it did not suck. Okay, but seriously. It's really bad, dude. That dialogue was shit.

The action was not that great. Again, I have nothing to compare it to. The plot was all over the place. All right, what do I watch next? If I'm just tiptoeing into this arena, what do I watch next? Tell me. Tell me the movie. Did you see Infinity War and Endgame? I don't watch that bullshit. No, no, no. Like the place. What do I watch next? If I'm just tiptoeing into this arena, what do I watch next? Tell me. Tell me the movie. Did you see Infinity War?

I don't watch that bullshit. No, no, no. Like the Avengers. Infinity War. I haven't seen any of the Guardians. I don't watch Spider-Man. So here's my biggest thing. You want me to start with Tobey Maguire?

I actually re-watched Infinity War after this new Thor movie because I was like, I don't remember him and the Guardians interacting this way. The humor in Infinity War is much... They turned Thor into some like bumbling fucking nerd. They did. It was a little bit like, that's not who he is. Remember they turned

Luke Skywalker into a bitch in episode three? It kind of reminds you of that. Yeah, I know. But here's what I'll say. The worst movie I saw over the weekend, as bad as Thor is,

and don't let anyone tell you it's good, it's bad. It's pretty good. It's pretty terrible. The new Jurassic Park. Yeah, I'm not saying that's bullshit.

every time, they should have that theater in one, they should have that movie in one theater, and when everyone walks out, the director should just take turns spitting in every audience member's face. You should have to watch that while you get a drive-through prostate check. Honestly, I'm dead serious. I cannot believe that didn't go straight to DVD. It is indescribable. Thor is just a really bad movie.

The New Jurassic Park is unbearably awful. Like, I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, dude, but like in the worst way. Oh, boy. In the worst way. See, I've never seen the first one. I've never seen any of them, Luke. You didn't read the book either? Books. I read all of my friends' books. You know what books are

when you run out of toilet paper, Luke? That's what books are, right? Phone books in Turkey. Books try to hold up the bottom of my friends. You know what books are when you run out of toilet paper, Luke? That's what books are, right? Phone books in Turkey. Books are to hold up the bottom of my bed, yes. We have a lot to get to today, including this coffee here, so you can give us a follow on all the socials down there. Happy to be back in studio. Thank you guys so much for joining us.

Give us a thumbs up and subscribe on YouTube and all that shit. We did do two post-fight shows for you guys this weekend on non-pay-per-view events. He did you for Ryan Garcia. I got you for UFC on ABC3. So thanks for folks who watched that. We're going to sort of put it all together here on today's show. And BC, what else? Extra credit. We got a big extra credit coming out.

We got extra credit coming out today as well. We're also getting Chuck Mendenhall in this building a little bit later. You won't see it for a little bit, but it's coming, okay? Indeed. So we have a lot to get to today. You can stream Showtime.com, 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can bounce.

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Dude, that is. You know, this is great. Did they engrave the glass? They didn't go that far. Okay. Well, they kind of half-stepped it. I mean look this is that is you know this is today give today great They didn't go that far, but okay well they can we can keep our out Well we can keep our you can keep your whole array of Delta 8 and babes back there I know it's the best part is people send me drinking paraphernalia But now that I really only drink during live shows is really the only time and now on the road But not only drink that much anymore so as you can tell I suppose, but I appreciate them

Just but you know it's great to be back, but noake today what what what what yeah jake is you know well he's no one ever accused him of being the hardest worker in the room oh come on you know what i'm saying all right have a thing we'll see if you're ready to get going i am as well good so are you ready to kick things off i love this show i love doing this show in person dude it's the best show on earth i really do it's great all right with that in mind let's start with topic number one can't wait to get his take on things because obviously i did the post-fight show, but let's start with the main event of UFC on ABC3. Jair Rodriguez earns the win over Brian Ortega via TKO injury, sort of an unfortunate circumstance in the way that it happened. BC, here's the question

for you. Yeah. Okay. It's a fair win because this is the way things go. Unfortunate but fair. Yeah, a lot of people saying if you're going to counter grapple and yank and you force that injury. It's real. It's fair. But the question is not that. The question is what did you learn from this bout? I learned something first and foremost that will not be your number one of what you learned, but maybe it injected the fuels inside of me. We said coming in this could be, you know, fight of the night, fight of the year, fight of my lifetime. I learned that for the very small dose that we ended up getting between these two, they're freaking made for each other. Luke, I felt like, and you could tell me I was, you know, uh, you know, high on the romanticism of

the moment. I felt like we were on our way to an action classic. I felt like we were on our way to something special. I know Yair got the better over all of the exchanges until the fight stopped, but I felt like it was going to be another one of those type of fights. And you know what? I'm finally coming around on who Brian Ortega is.

Always one of my favorite fighters. Maybe at times I get a little too extra critical of him because I see the flashes of greatness. You want to see greatness across the board. But I think I realized in this fight, which ended in an unfortunate setback, and of course, even though they both wanted to do a rematch, who knows how long Ortega will be out and have to recover from this. He may not be the fighter that sometimes we think he should be

in terms of climbing the rankings and going after the belt. He's more of an artist, Luke. And do you know what he makes? Fucking dramatic, amazing, emotionally moving fights. going after the belt. He's more of an artist, Luke. And do you know what he makes? Fucking dramatic, amazing, emotionally moving fights. And that there are just some of those superstars who scrawl across our timeline every once in a while who can do that. And maybe they don't always max out or maybe this is them maxing out. Like is Brian Ortega underrated or overrated? I can't figure it out which one it is actually. I can't figure it out whether he's an underachiever or

an overachiever is really what I'm trying to say. But either way, he authors and this one, of course, got taken from us, but he authors just amazing theater. So in the end, what did I learn? You want me to tell you I learned that Yair was the better of the two for what we did see and that he should advance to a title shot, whether

that's Let's Wait, I'll Volkanovsky or Let's Get Creative and go somewhere else. But I ended up coming out of here going, maybe I don't need to be as hard on Brian Ortega because I love him. Because this is who he is, Luke. I mean, some people say, hey, BC, this show is pretty damn great. Here we go, self-referential. But what if you bring in the boxing version of BC to these MMA talks that we have in here? This show could be next level.

I can't, Luke. I got to R. Yeah, you do have to R. I'm in mostly agreement with you. The thing that sort of stood out to me was, you were right. For what we saw, Yair got the better. There was the takedown at the end, which then

the arm bar from Yair was attempted and it caused the shoulder injury, but he finally got a takedown after a big second attempt. But the thing was, what did we say on Friday was going to happen? We said, and this didn't take a genius to predict, you knew that the dynamic striking of Yair was probably going to be better than the sort of relatively, compared to Yair, a little more conventional striking of Brian Ortega. That played out true. You knew he was going to struggle with the takedowns. You

knew that was true. And you knew Brian Ortega had a hell of a chin, and he got tagged with some huge shots and just kind of like, you know, rolled his head back like a cyborg and then kept going. All those things played out. The conclusion that, well, Yair showed us better stuff for the amount of time that we have, I think is true. Doesn't mean he was going to win the fight. 100%. That is the takeaway.

Because Brian Ortega often gets hit, stolen, beaten up, and then just from the jaws of defeat finds a way to absolutely masquerade guys. Plus, the fact that the first takedown he couldn't quite get, but the second sort of overall attempt he did. Now, I think that shoulder played a part because he was moving on that same side. So I wonder if that at all played a role. Obviously, yeah, you're pulling on it. It made the biggest difference.

But, you know, you have to wonder what that might have done. But he did get the takedown. So you're wondering, wow, if Ortega clearly learned from the Max Holloway fight that this was something that he was going to have to pursue, and he did. Dude, to me, they said they want to rematch each other again under title circumstances. I hope we can find a way to get there, because I will say this. I absolutely want to see that fight again whenever it's appropriate. It was brewing.

It was going to be something special. I completely agree, and it is so unfortunate that it's appropriate. It was brewing. It was going to be something special. I completely agree. And it is so unfortunate that it changed the way that it did. However, I said this on my post-fight show, and I'd love to get your reaction. Again, making it self-referential. I had a shoulder injury. I had to get this one surgically repaired in 2009. And one of the ways that they do that is they actually put the camera on him.

Look at his stupid face. I can't look at it. There are times when I'm like, my family and kid were burned in a house fire, and I'll look over at him and put the camera on me. He'll be doing this number. Like that Thierry Henry fucking meme. It means I'm actively listening, Luke. The point I'm trying to make is,

if you've ever had shoulder surgery, what they often end up doing is they often restrict mobility on purpose so that you don't have subsequent dislocations. I don't know if he had one surgery and one surgery or two surgeries on one shoulder. Either way, let me just say this, BC. If your shoulder is still falling out of the socket that easily post-surgery, you might have some serious long-term problems.

What do you make of – do you worry about that at all? I do. And it's part of my coping mechanism to get to the point where I know Brian Ortega is one of my favorite fighters. I want him to be great. He can compete with anybody on any given night. He has one of those games where you can just hit that button and flash into full elite mode.

But to get, I'm finally realizing, to get that out of himself, he's got to be who he is, which means someone who gets himself into wars sometimes when it's not always the best case, because I think in the back of his mind, he's always there looking to create that error when somebody makes one mistake in a position where they think they have the advantage, but that leads to endings like this. It leads to injuries. When you are an artist at the end of the day, rather than somebody whose sole focus is climbing the ladder and winning. And I'm not saying that's not part of what makes him up. He's in here to win. But he's an artist, Luke, so sometimes you get incomplete

arcs. And this is another step in a sort of incomplete arc. A guy who swung big in his two big title opportunities, missed two years to multiple injuries, kind of, you know, this could set up a stretch where he's kind of floating for a while. I do think he'll be back. I do think he'll be back in big fights.

I don't know if he'll ever win a huge fight again that he's done in the past. But every time he's there, you've got to see him. And what we saw up here, it was Bruin to be special. But I think when you fight in that style with that mindset, you could lose fights out of nowhere. Fights can also fall apart because of injuries. He's aggressive. He's aggressive as shit, Luke.

He came right out in the opening bell and kind of did what you didn't want him to do, which is not really move his head and just stand in there and trade. And that's what he does. I disagree a little bit, right? Because didn't he go for two prolonged takedown attempts? And again, one of them failed. But to me, one of the lessons there was he knew if I stand with him for a long amount of time,

I'm going to get chewed up. Might as well clinch and see what I can do from there. He finally made some of the smarter sort of adjustments. Not an overall commitment to defense like you would sort of want if you're saying, can this guy be an elite guy who constantly beats somebody better than him, step up the ladder, step up the ladder. I don't think he can be that. I just don't think it's in him.

The performance against Korean Zombie notwithstanding, probably due to the speed difference and the footwork and all that. But it's just like now it's like, OK, for as long as we have him left, and it should be a while, right? He's, what, 31? I mean, you know, as long as he recovers from this, although he's now had multiple issues with the same, I just want to see who else could he fight. Look, we've seen him in the past talk about, oh, I'll move up and fight Colby to settle a grudge. I can fight much bigger than people realize. From here on out, Luke, he's in that category of the Chandlers, of the Poiriers, of the guys who you love anyway,

you're going to watch them anyway because they're in big fights, but no matter where they are in their career, no matter who they're fighting, you got to see it. I mean, and that is, does that mean anything? Does that matter? For some guys, that's the only thing that matters, and I think for Ortega, it's just the way he's wired, man. He's just going to end up in these. And I'm done trying to pull back on the reins. I'm now saying, go for it. Be Brian Ortega. So let me circle back and ask you the question I asked myself and still don't know the answer. Is Brian Ortega, from what we've seen at the highest level, which have been aborted or have been brawls in which he had big moments but ultimately lost one-sided fights, is he overachieving or underachieving in terms of what we actually get out of each fight? Well, that's a great question. I think the,

maybe this will answer it. My sense of, and again, it was four minutes or whatever it was, it was not even around. So who the hell is to say, but the idea I was, I was waiting to see is like, is because the Korean zombie fight, he didn't get hit a whole lot, right? There was a little bit of it, but he did a really good job of hitting and not getting hit, relatively speaking. And then he fights Volkanovski, and Volkanovski chews him up. But that's Volkanovski. That's the very best guy maybe in the sport. But he didn't move his head once in that fight, though, to be fair.

The Volkanovski fight? Yeah. Right. I mean, okay, but you get what I'm trying to say. I was wondering, is he going to mature in a direction where he kind of leaves with the kind of thing you're excited about and accepting, is he going to leave in a direction where he kind of leaves with the kind of thing you're excited about and accepting, is he going to leave some of that behind? Now, again, Yair is a very dynamic striker, but he's not a champion as it stands today. And so my thought was, after it was all over, I was like, he's just going to be the guy that gets hit a lot.

He's just going to be that guy. He's just going to be the guy that gets hit a lot. Now, he'll make some improvements. And, again, I want to be very clear about this. The idea that because he was getting hit a lot, for most most of the time that means shit's going downhill for brian ortega it doesn't necessarily mean that by virtue of all the other heroics that we all the rabbits he's pulled out of hats we know that's not necessarily true but i guess the only point i was trying to make was i thought we'd see a little bit more of a matured developed strikingly aware defensive

skill set and going for the takedowns is part of that. But on the striking itself, my man, he's just kind of going to be there. And he's going to outlast people that don't have the same backbone. But against the very elite, I'm still in that conundrum. Is he able to compete with them on this level because he overachieves and is so all in with his balls, right? Or is he still sacrificing a certain level of restraint that could get him farther because these moments are just too fun to not get into or because that's just who he is?

Either way, you got to see him. And whether you think it matters or not, if he's not in your now group of like stop traffic, I got to see who he's fighting next. I mean, you know, he is Luke and he showed that again, but he also lost the fight, so let me flip it back to you on Yair. Okay. Did we learn enough about Yair in this win, now one fight winning streak, because remember he lost to Max despite everything he gained critically from that, to say, yeah, whatever form it is, interim or full,

he's fighting for the title next? So the answer is no, but I want to talk about that in just a second. Before we do that, because that's point number two, so I just want to. I didn't really read the rundown, you know, that's fighting for the title next. So the answer is no, but I want to talk about that in just a second before we do that, because that's point number two. So I just want to... I didn't really read the rundown. That's fine. It's okay. We will get to this very question. Last thing on the part one. Danny Segura had noted this, and I think it's a fair point.

You coming from boxing almost take it for granted. They each come out to these like really deeply culturally rich songs of Mexican heritage. Oh, the love between them was great. And I think the song that Ortega came out to

was Caliente Sangre. I think that was the name of it. In any event... What does that mean? Hot? Hot blood. Hot blood. Yeah, yeah.

Wait, is Sangre in the same as sangria? Is that the same? That's exactly right. So that means what? Blood drink? I don't know if it means blood drink, but I think there's the root derivation of the word there. Well, I come from sangrias for bitches. Pass another mark down this way, guy.

The point I wanted to make was, dude, obviously the crowd in Long Island was great. They sold the place out. But I got to say, here's another case where if they put that in, let's say, South Texas or something like that. Why is that not in Anaheim? Dude, was that not an opportunity missed? Both of these guys fully embraced it, and there weren't Mexican people in the crowd. That was a great crowd. You see the John Anik post afterwards?

Yeah, yeah. Long after the broadcast is over, just lines of people giving a love. But it wasn't a fully Mexican crowd or Mexican-American crowd. Opportunity missed? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean, I think so. I saw in our own internal Slack boards and CBS people were like, why isn't this in LA again yet? It made a lot

of sense, but the UFC is operating on a pretty high level of wins right now where these type of small L's are very small. I know, but I just feel like you could do a lot more for the kind of audiences you want, and you can build the fighters more within their own communities

by putting those things together. But they don't, as much as they want that, as much as they get fired up for Brandon Moreno to be the first Mexican-born champion, as much as they've always wanted Jair to be something, and now he's on the verge of that. That's why you plug him into a title shot next in Topic 2, no matter what the circumstance,

they still aren't, like, live and die by it, right? Back when they wanted Kane to be something that he couldn't be, it was more like, man, we could really use that. The brand is the UFC. They're selling Dana White in the UFC more than any fighter, Luke, and you can consistently see that. Even though, shout out to Dana, probably put on by a lot of this pressure that's come off of the Nelk Boy video, everybody got a bonus, it seemed like.

It was Oprah level. And it was great to see, like, fuck yeah. I mean, we're going to talk about the Sumadarji fight against Schnell in the Epic Classic. But, like, dude, I was like, yo, I almost wanted to tweet out at the Nelk Boys and be like, you know what you have to do. Give that money back. And give it to Matt Schnell, please. And give it to the other guy. Like, what are you doing right now?

All right, let's move to point number two. We stay with the main event, but it was the question that BC raised. Namely, now that Yair has won, and you've got Josh Emmett sitting on a five-fight win streak, but the win by Yair was hardly very consequential. Well, it's consequential, but it was hardly very without question.

There's a lot of uncertainty about, okay, did he really beat Ortega? Is this the kind of definitive win that someone needs for a title shot? So BC, the question for you is this. kind of definitive win that someone needs for a title shot? So, BC, the question for you is this. Is Rodriguez versus Emmitt for the interim featherweight title the right next fight to make? Yeah, given the injury to Volkanovski,

things have just had a way of working out for Josh Emmitt right when it looked like they weren't, right when it looked like he didn't get the prime seating that I talked about last episode for the UFC 276 card with the zoom in and the name on the bottom. He got bumped up to the upper deck. But that doesn't matter as long as you get that prize. And Volkanovski's injury has opened up a door here for Josh Emmett

to get what we've all argued he kind of deserved from the beginning. Five-fight win streak, blood and guts performances. You hear him on room service diaries, and if you haven't heard it, check it out at youtube.com slash morningcombat. It's a great listen. But, Luke, what did we learn about that? Nothing given to this guy. Everything earned and paid for in blood.

And how many of those close fights, which I know his critics will argue, I don't think he beat Cater. I don't think he beat Dan Ige. You know, that close fight with Burgos, whatever. Dude, he's here, okay? Enough of that talk. He's here. But he's had to crawl and scratch. I mean, you know, we asked him specifically in the room service diaries,

when you're going to the cards against Cater, how confident can you actually be? Because if he loses that fight, if he loses a split decision to Calvin Cater, we don't ever hear from him at this level again. It's just math, Luke. That's it. Okay? It's just math at 37, considering how much he's poured out to get here.

You're probably not going to see him again. Yet he stayed the course. I mean, what else could he do, right? He's done everything he could. He's been on every podcast. All he could do was stay the course and wait. And it seems to potentially have come back around again, unless, you know, Henry Cejudo or somebody that we're not even considering

is going to fly in and steal his spot. Yair, for as much as the win streak, which is one fight, and it was an aborted fight, for as much as that doesn't tell us a lot, he still looks to be the best he's ever been, Luke. That's true. And although you can argue this doesn't matter, how much do you think his post-fight interview did for, I mean, look, they're on ABC.

It almost felt like a planted question. Would you say that when Daniel Cormier goes, what do you want to say to your Latin fans out there? Yeah, of course. Yet he freaking delivered it. And I don't know if you saw the video of him walking down the aisle giving high fives. I thought he came across hugely humble and just, like, really likable. Like, it's Yair's time, and you'd like for him to have a three- or four-fight win streak.

To get to this point, he doesn't. But as long as he's fighting the guy who deserves even more to be there in Josh Emmett, this is the perfect use of an interim title. It's still a number one contenders fight, but it's the perfect use of an interim title for two people that deserve it, and then let's see who can come out of that and fight Volkanovski when he comes back around the other end. Because Volkanovski

ain't getting the lightweight title shot anytime soon, and I don't think he should right now. It's too crowded up there, Luke. Here's what I would say. You can't argue that Emmett doesn't deserve the title shot because the Cater fight was close and then claim that Yair does deserve the title shot off of a one-fight win streak that came, yes, that he produced by virtue of what he was doing, but produced it via injury from what probably was a medically, not dubious situation ahead of time, but a medically affected one, right? He probably had some kind of preexisting condition there that made that injury possible.

I don't think that Yair has that kind of pulling strength to do that kind of thing. You can't claim that that's the authoritative one win you need to punch your ticket to a title shot against maybe the very best fighter on earth. What you can argue is, hey, it's not Yair's fault that Ortega's shoulder fell out the way that it did. Fair enough. And you can say, well, you know, Cater made a strong account of himself,

but the judges gave it to him, but it was a little bit dicey. It's close. We have an unresolved top contender situation. And Emmett, to me, has obviously a longer winning streak and I think has fought better guys personally and done better against them. But Yair did well enough for the time that we saw him. He gave Max Holloway hell. He is well-liked.

He is popular. And it'd be a fresh fight in either case for Volkanovski. Interim title or not, I don't know. But the next fight to make for sure is Josh Emmett versus Jair Rodriguez. That is the fight that you have to make. Winner take all in that case. I agree with you, but time for a hard question. We're going to turn the camera.

There we go. By the way, should we be alarmed? Normally we come in here and we're like, are there too many Malka employees running around here for what's actually needed? Now this time it's a ghost town. I've got to get the camera guy to refill my coffee cup. It's great. Where's Filthy Phil when you need him? You know what I mean?

You know this new guy's name? Gojira? Gojira? Yeah, brother. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Appreciate that. Alright, can't even give him some FaceTime there in the back. Luke, what I was gonna say was you might not want to answer this question right now because it looks

like Josh Emmett probably deserves and will get his chance, but on paper, is Jair Rodriguez the only remaining featherweight who could potentially take the title from Volkanovski right now I mean look Ortega came close so you can't remove Ortega from this conversation but he's injured he's not you know he's out right now is Jair the last guy standing who in your mind you could say all right I could imagine him doing it I could imagine it. Because this is a new Volkanovski. The guy that beat Max's ass in the third fight, that's a new... I would say that

you couldn't fully dismiss two names. One, Arnold Allen. I would pick Volkanovski over him. I like Arnold Allen a lot, but don't do that. How about this one? Mozar Evloev. Now you're getting into my collection of hammers. Now you're like ABC. Deep in the tool bag.

So I would say in the top five, it's Cater, Emmett, Rodriguez, Ortega, Holloway. Yeah, in that sense, it's just Emmett and Yair left. That's all. And both of them don't deserve to get the fight. Only one of them does. And I'll say, I'm not one of these guys who's like,

oh, I love interim titles, but I've made this argument before. If you have an interim title for this one, whoever the winner is heading into the eventual fight with Volkanovski, both will get paper vans. Alright, I've come around. I hate abusing interim titles, but if it gets them the points they need, now let's go back to what this fight they should

make next. Emmett versus Rodriguez. Was Team Emmett at their house in Sacramento? On the same night, by the way, did you hear that hilarious take that Dean Thomas gave in the pre-show of UFC? No. They were like, you know, if Yair comes out and wins this fight against Ortega, it's going to be hard marketing-wise to keep him away from the title.

We said the same thing. Dean's like, I'm not even sure. You know, Yair's got Mexico behind him. I'm not even sure Josh Emmitt has Sacramento behind him. Harsh, but fair. Jesus Christ. But when he's sitting home in Sacramento, and we love us some Josh Emmett right here, is he celebrating when that fight ends abruptly and the door is now kicked back open?

He's got to be, right? That's got to be like, oh, shit, that is going to open. I bet he would have preferred Ortega to win, because if Ortega wins, who's already had the two title shots, that would have given Emmett free and clear. But what I'll say is this. We're not even talking about how awesome a fight Emmitt versus Yair Rodriguez is. That's what I want you to talk about.

Two action fighters to the nth degree. But different kinds of action fighters. One more of a... How does a fight between Emmitt and Yair look in your mind? That's what I'm saying, because Emmitt's more of a... Emmitt almost purposely dumbed himself down a bit when we were talking to him room service-style. There was a point where you and I looked and caught eyes.

You're like, so what's your mindset, your game plan? He's like, I don't have a game plan. I'm like, sorry, what? I just go in there and throw right hands and fight like a caveman, and if my face doesn't fall off, I win. I mean, that's kind of what he said. You even were like, yo, I want to give you a second chance here. No, he didn't really mean that, but in his mind, he looks at himself as an adaptable

guy who no matter what the competition is bringing, he's going to adjust and inflict what he does, which is big right hands, put the pressure on you like that. Obviously, Yair is a crafty, creative artiste of a striker, but no less dangerous. I mean, could this end in a brutal fight in which Yair stops him and carves him up late? It's possible. But could Emmett also take this guy down, Luke? Could Emmett be fighting downhill the whole time and eventually just in a war just outman him also possible um buckle up dude featherweight kind of on fire right now and it may not be as high in my mind as bantamweight the best division in the

sport right now women's strawweight always among the best divisions in the sport right now and you got a shot at lightweight. It's still there. Still not going anywhere. It's still fucking rules, right, brother? Yes. Featherweight. You thought I got off the exit and had no idea where I was. No, not true. Featherweight is coming to

hell on. Right now, this core of guys at the top and Shane Bergo's not done yet, which I'm sure we can talk about at some point, but dude, they're all going to be bangers of fights. It's fantastic. Do you like Emmitt's chances here? What will the lines say? I'll say this.

I would favor Emmitt to win on the argument that Emmitt's wrestling would be the difference maker. If Max Holloway is getting you down, that's one thing. Max is extremely good. Not known as a wrestler, but certainly quite talented. But then Brian Ortega, who has historically a 24% takedown success rate, which is very low, for him to get the takedown. Granted, it may have injured his shoulder, but who knows what the medical condition was ahead of time. Still, he did get him down. Let me just tell you something.

If those two guys can get him down, Emmitt's going to get him down. The question you have to ask yourself is, is Emmitt even going to try to do that? Because Emmitt loves to fucking brawl on the beat. Yo, he likes to stand and bang. And fucking trade, dude. Everyone's like, oh, Yair should get it or whatever your position is. Because I get, granted, he's significantly more popular than Josh Emmitt. But I'm just trying to explain to people, an Emmitt versus Yair Rodriguez fight is absolutely bonkers.

That is a, and for interim title, probably would have been a main event no matter what, even if they put it on a fight night. That's a five-round fight. You've got to be shitting me. That could be a pay-per-view co-main coming up. That could be something. I mean, honestly, even if Emmett makes it through that one, Yair is going to take a pound of flesh from him. He is going to go into that Volkanovski fight assuming he even wins. Like Shylock and the Merchant of Venice, right?

I mean, I don't know if that's the best comparison I've ever heard. I was trying to get literary. I was trying to get on your team here with the books. Yeah. Well, in any event, it's worth thinking about that Yair certainly is capable of winning that one on the feet. He could knock Emmitt out if Emmitt's not careful. I think he probably is the better striker of the two. But I would say Emmitt's a little bit more physical, a little bit more well-rounded in terms of all of his offensive weapons.

Either way, those two have to fight. Because the argument for either guy, given what has happened in the division, given how the sport works, no one's argument is iron clad. Emmitt's resume is a little bit stronger, but it's hardly that case that Yair's resume is weak, and he has this significant

popular backing, plus he would also have an action fight with Yair. And you're asking yourself, who else could it be? Outside of that great doctor deciding to change his ways, you know what I'm talking about? What? Not Kevorkian, not Nasser. I'm talking about Zabit. Outside of him deciding to change his ways,

Luke, okay? And come on down, who else are you going to give it to? Nobody. It's time. Let's do it. Appointment viewing. So I'm fired up. And Yair, look, again, we'll put the bow on it like we started. From what he could have shown, he showed out, man. He showed out. Let's do it. Appointment viewing. So I'm fired up. And Yair, look, again, we'll put the bow on it like we started. From what he could have shown, he showed out, man. He looked great. He showed out.

So there it is. He looked great. He absolutely looked great. End of the show. We had a great run. Thank you. All right, let's go to point number three. Let's talk about this one.

Matt Schnell defeats Sumidharji in one of the most epic contests you'll ever see, basically, in all of professional MMA. He wins in the second round via triangle choke. That's his third triangle choke in the UFC. I think he's got second most all-time at either featherweight or something like that. He's got some kind of record related to triangle choke finishes. Either way, BC, he got stung a million times before that, and then found a way to then rock Sumidarji with a right hand, then gets the takedown, moves to mount, rolls

to triangle. In the midst of the moving to mount and rolling to triangle, he also was taking shots, and it looked like Sumidarji was making a little run in the midst of that. So it was like never quite sure which direction that thing was going, even down to the end. Even with the heavy momentum swings in either direction. So the question for you is this. Where does this rank all time on MMA comebacks? Because some folks are saying it's the best.

I don't agree, but it's up there. I don't agree, no. And nothing to hate on. I mean, look, it was this. Where does this rank all time on MMA comebacks? Because some folks are saying it's the best. I don't agree, but it's up there. I don't agree, no. And nothing to hate on. I mean, look, it was epic. I think it was helped by the soundtrack of DC. Daniel Cormier just losing his shit with Paul Felder and John Anik, rightfully so. I mean, they were kind of all over each other, but sometimes the rules go out the window in terms of, you know,

whose role is what in those moments. But I loved it. It showed so much heart and resiliency. But was it better even than Davalish Wheely against Maraish? I don't think it was. Was it better than Anderson Silva against Chael? No. I mean, that was a title fight, a different scenario,

a different type of one-way traffic, which led to that. But, dude, in terms of taking damage, being rocked multiple times and looking like you're ready to go, I mean, he was eating left hands like nobody's business. Like, I came here to do one thing, and that's eat clean left hands. And, you know, he should have gone, but he bit down and kept going. And to turn it around like that, dude, I hope he gets paid. I hope he gets catapulted into big fights.

And there's so many fun fights you can make a flyweight and shout out to him in this one, Luke. But I don't think it's in the top, you know, pantheon, but it's knocking on the door. What was it missing then for both of us to go, loved it, but let's not go crazy? So it's to me not the greatest comeback for a lot of reasons, but the biggest one I would say is that it's very hard to compare.

They're very dissimilar kinds of fights. When you say comeback, what do you mean? I watched Chael Sonnen beat the shit out of Anderson Silva for 20 plus minutes. Broken rib too. Yeah, broken rib before he just put on the triangle choke. I cannot tell you if you watched that live how improbable it was. To me, that's the best.

This ain't Pete Silva versus Scott Smith either, to be fair. Okay, but that was a single shot and then a single shot. I mean, it was a little bit. I mean, there's different kinds of comes out. This was prolonged. There's a Pat Berry, Czech Congo type comeback. That's the best comparison. Where it's these wild, crazy swings.

In that sense, it's very similar. But to me, if you get your ass whipped for 20 plus minutes and then a Hail Mary works in a title fight, the stakes are more significant. The resiliency is more significant. It just is. But if you're comparing it to these ones where these momentum swings in either direction,

it's probably two or three in all-time best comebacks. In fact, Topology is a great site. They have their listed top comebacks. They don't really separate them out from the way we're doing it, but here's what they have listed as their top ten. You tell me if you think it fits inside of it. I think it fits somewhere neatly around the top three. You just said two or three, which is high. So you're basically

saying it's not the greatest I've ever seen, but it's just about second best. It's pretty good. I'm pushing it back. I mean, I got more emotional connection maybe to Scott Smith Kung Lee even part one. I mean, there's just that sort of like... That was improbable. Somebody getting tuned up and then that was a bigger figure. Grand slam on the final pitch to come

back. Okay, so number ten, they have Okami versus Boach. It's certainly better than that. Number 9, Edgar versus Maynard 3, when Edgar came back and won via KO TKO. That's big. That's epic. To your point, Smith versus Sell is number 8. Now, that was a crazy one, too. I watched that one live as well, Ultimate Fighter 4 finale.

Can't you put Edgar Maynard 2 on this list, too? We're going to get to it, yeah. 7 is Mir Noguera 2, which was a great comeback because Noguera was tagging him on the feet. And had never been, what, submitted? Submitted. And then basically let his arm get broken. Yeah, then Mir fucked him up and broke his arm. Number six, Emilio Nenko versus Randleman.

That was when Randleman spiked him on his head and he still got beat. But that one, he got spiked and then there was a lull in the action and then there was a reversal. And the fader's like, fuck CTE. Number five, this was great and historic and a title fight, but still the action-wise not as good. They have Hughes versus Trigg, too, which was good. To your point, number four, Edgar versus Maynard, too. That's a crazy one.

That's a high level. Was that a title? Two and three were title fights, right? I don't know if two was. I can't remember anymore. Okay, here's where you get to the meat and potatoes. Number three, Lesnar versus Carwin. Now, here's the thing.

Oh, shit, dude. That's one of my three favorite fights ever because it was... And Matt Schnell made a good point, which was he made an argument he won the first round. I didn't see the judges score cards, but you can make a pretty strong case that he, in fact, did win the first round. He had a takedown. He actually moved him out early enough, and he ended the round in top position.

Lesnar got the shit kicked out of him for almost a near full five minutes before, you know, obviously the round ended. Then the second round, he came out and did his thing. Number two, Barry versus Congo. I'm going to put it right on par with that. I think it's right on par with Barry versus Congo. You don't think Davala Shilleyilly, Marais should be in this? That was freaking epic.

Number one is Silva versus Sonnen, which I think is significantly better. No, you don't think Davalos. I thought the Davalos-Schilly comeback was better than this. What am I missing, dude? He got thrown around, knocked down like a rag doll for four minutes, it seemed like. I guess he did get hurt, but I guess it's the way that, partly it's the way the body reacts. And I think Schnell just kind of freezing in time over and over and over.

It just gave you the sense of like, oh, you're like, oh, just blow on him. And he'll just fall over and that will be it. Can somebody blow him, please? Kim, please. I put blow on him. No love for Kimbo Shamrock? That had some flows in it. I mean, nobody had a heart attack.

That was a sad fight. No, that was actually kind of fun. I'm trying to see, where do they put Maraich versus DiWallace? 11 is Bektish versus Elkins, which is another good one. Yes. They've got, at 12, they've got Lewis versus Volkov. Remember, Derek Lewis got his ass whooped and then had the Hail Mary at the end. That's the same fight as Wonderboy versus Pettis, by the way.

Right? Same exact fight. And another one they have that is closer to Silva-San, and they have it 14, which is Holm versus Tate. Holm basically won four and a half rounds. Oh, God. And then in the very last round, Misha took the back and choked her out. How about Holly as she's going out, throwing punches while getting choked? Oh, yeah.

That's the fighting spirit. Yeah, yeah. It sure is. It sure is. McGregor versus Diaz is number 16. That was a bit of a comeback fight. That was the roar. Okay, that, sure is. It sure is. Mugger versus Diaz is number 16. That was a bit of a comeback fight. That was a, that was, the roar, I was, okay, that fight, 196, I was in the media room,

because we had maxed out for ESPN the cage side seats, and I had a cousin who was there for his job at the moment. He goes, hey, you know how to get tickets? I don't know if you remember, UFC used to give out, if you couldn't, if you weren't seated around the cage, they give you tickets up in the arena. So I had gotten a ticket for the top row of the lower bowl, so your eye level with the octagon. And ESPN wanted me in the back to interview the fighters from the undercard as they come in, so I gave it to my cousin. I go, just don't get drunk and crazy and get me in trouble, but go enjoy. Had never been

to a fight before. Shows up before the co-main event, watches Tate versus Holm and McGregor Diaz won. And it's like I'm a fan for life. Like this is the craziest thing that's ever happened. The roar from the media room of McGregor tapping out. And it's not just the tap out. It was once that thing changed. I don't

think I've been around, you know, I've been around a few great explosions in sort of combat sports crowd history. That's up there. I mean, it may not have been like Sergio Martinez, Chavez Jr. in the final round, but that thing, like the crowd just went. It's one of those things you never forget, Luke, the feel. How about Joe Rogan screaming his face off?

Yeah. Go on that fight. You know what? That should be higher up. Probably. Because the invincibility McGregor had, you just thought he could do anything in that moment. In that first round. And Nate was effed up.

I mean, he was bloody. Yeah, he was getting bloody. By the way, 17, I saw this one live on TV, Lawler versus Manhoff. So Manhoff was just kicking his leg, kicking his leg, kicking his leg. Just straight force? Yep, and then Lawler hit him with that one clean punch and put his lights out. 18 was Jung versus Rodriguez, they have. Chansung Jung and the elbow.

Noguera versus Filipovic. Dude, that's got to be higher, the elbow. Dude, the last second of the fight. To your point, I don't have Marais on this list, but 20 they have Overeem versus Brown. That was another one. Okay, I said Arlovsky-Brown. Did I mean Overeem?

No, no, Brown had two crazy fights. Arlovsky hit him with not the spinning back elbow, but he punched over and then just came back. I was in Todd Grisham's basement for Arlovsky hit him with the not the spitting back elbow but like he punched over and then just came back I was in Todd Grisham's basement for Arlovsky vs. Brown I'll never forget how loud he screamed Luke I'll never forget that anyway they don't have that one on the list I don't know when this list was made anyway

and it's just whoever put it together but those are pretty decent comparisons but you can see when you compare them like in that way part of it is the stakes you just named it the number two or three of all time. There's no stakes on this fight. That's fine. If you wanted to knock it down because of that, I can understand it. But for me,

I can't put it up there with Silvason and I can't do that. No, and it was great in the moment and shout out to Schnell. But I do put it on par with Barry and Chaka. We're talking about title. You think it's bigger than Holmte? The problem was that fight was boring. That fight was boring until it wasn't. That was the difference.

This was all action. Was it boring? I mean, the first four rounds were each fighter controlling their own. It wasn't boring, but it wasn't very action-oriented. I mean, there wasn't a lot happening. This was fucking ba-da-da-da. It was firefight, dude. It was crazy.

Ba-da-da-da. Ba-da-ba-ba-da-ba. Ba-la-mosh. Yeah. Ba-la-mosh. You see that Ricky Martin headline? It looks trouble. By la mosh. You see that Ricky Martin headline? It looks trouble. We dance, huh?

You see that Ricky Martin headline? It looks trouble. I know, but does it make any sense? Like, yo, he's facing 50 years in prison. I'm like, has he even been charged with anything? What, for sleeping with his nephew? I don't get into that. He says it's false, so I'm going to let the justice system handle it.

I mostly don't care either way. I'm not tearing down anyone's statue. Can I make one point about Matt Schnell that I do think deserves to be made? When he came over to the UFC, he came through LFA, and he obviously was on the MTV show. And up to this point, he had done well, I think you could say, or done reasonably well. But I was wondering, I'm like, is he going to make it?

To me, this felt the first time he put his name in the history of the UFC. This was him finally standing out from whatever his background was that ever kind of lifted him to the danger show or cage, whatever it was called. This was him finally separating from the pack and having a moment that was his that will go down in UFC history. I mean, if they're putting fights in the Hall of Fame, honestly. This can't be in the Hall of Fame. Why not?

Why not? Do you think it was a better... Dude, your water looks fucking gross. Well, I poured it in an empty coffee cup. That's why. You are a sick fuck. You know, whatever it takes to get through these shows. Yeah, can we get a little... I don't want to...

It looks like ramen soup. There's just no ramen in it. I mean, it's, you know. All right, again, no disrespect to this fight. Was it a round and a half? You think this fight's better than Swanson Choi? You think this fight's better? The fight overall, no.

So in that sense, it all depends how you want to package it. But that round, that round is one of the most fun rounds I've ever seen. Okay, but just so for the record, you just said it's either the second or third greatest comeback ever, and it's a Hall of Fame fight. You said both. No, no, no, no. Let me be clear. You're saying it can't go in the Hall of Fame.

It can't. I'm simply saying, based on what's already... Okay, so Cub Swanson versus Duho Choi is in there. It's a great fight. This, to me, round two of that fight, not the overall fight, but round two of that fight is better than any of the rounds in that fight. Round two of this fight.

Okay, but it's not a better fight overall, and I think at the end of the day, you know that. When I say it can go in the Hall of Fame, that's not me necessarily endorsing it.

That's me saying, well, what else is in there? Dude, they have Diego Sanchez versus Clay Guida in there, and that's a fun fight. Round two of this one's better than any of those rounds. So why can't it?

Can we get Carl Parisian in there? Hey, listen, the heat. We'll put some heat on you. We'll get a couple classics. What's the one we both like? Diego was the big one for me. Diego versus Carl was the big one for me. And then Carl versus Nick, right? Carl versus... Yes, that was another good one. That was crazy. The fight against St. Pierre wasn't that great,

but it's because he got his ass kicked. He had some good ones. He had some good ones for sure. You're turning me on to Armenians, mostly the men, but you're turning me on to them, Luke. Yeah, dude, they're great people. They're very successful. I got nothing bad to say about it. Shout out to Manu.

They get made fun of a lot. They get made fun of a lot for, you know, I guess their ostentatious lifestyle. Yeah, they move their head a lot. It's fine. It's fine. I'm down with it. I was going to say they drive BMWs a lot, but, you know, whatever.

Okay, moving, you know, whatever. Okay. Moving along from that, number four is now we stay with the card, however. Lauren Murphy scores a unanimous decision win over Misha Tate. This was the opener to the main card of UFC on ABC3. BC, hell of a win by Lauren Murphy. I had her winning all three, although there was a couple of you could maybe. I think two of the judges gave Tate round two, and she had some decent moments in round three as well,

but Lauren Murphy was basically better everywhere. What do you take from this fight? Look, Lauren Murphy needed the win, and she was gritty, and she got it done, and you have to love the baby-faced promo she gave after about, look, Shevchenko fight, you know, one bad night at the office, but I'm not leaving this sport until I win that title. And given her age, Luke, you love to see that fire, that she's still coming back. And look, she was in great shape after that long laugh. That's fine.

But correct me if I'm wrong. The story of this fight is Misha Tate. And we had, yeah, we had questions and concerns coming in, you know, despite being a, what, minus 220 favorite that, you know, this is a potential uphill battle. And it was. Luke, I mean, she was a step slow in every category and just didn't seem like herself. But on top of that, I mean, not even a thought to head movement or defense. I mean, not even a morsel of thought in that direction. This was almost an exposure of her.

That's what she's been doing. I know that, but out of any fight recently in her comeback, I think this was the biggest exposure of, like, a 2014 mindset in a 2022 game. You know what I'm saying? Like, the lack of evolution. It wasn't as if she wasn't game. It wasn't as if she didn't have probably a strong camp to cut down to 125 for the first time. She actually looked pretty good.

That was not an issue at all. Agreed. And, you know, typical to her calling card of toughness when she got tagged and swollen and bloodied, she just kept coming. I mean, she was at the Yankee game yesterday. She's just going after it. That's who she is. But our concerns were not only validated, but they were full bloom. I mean, look, she wasn't in this fight for the most part.

Even if you want to give her that round where she came back and she showed heart, dude, she's just, it's not there anymore. Well, she's always had incredible toughness, including in the Katsingano fight, which she lost, but she took a whooping. A step behind even where she was in the original comeback fight. Right, so this is the thing. It's like, dude, if you watched Misha Tate in her prime, there was a gap between her and everyone else in the division, maybe not named Ronda, but you could see she was clueless.

In terms of grappling, aggression, right? Physicality. Physicality. And now it's the reverse. Now the division has a lead on her, and I don't know. Now, here's the thing. Lauren Murphy actually is one of the very best ones at flyweight, not named Valentina Shevchenko.

It wasn't like she lost to a scrub, but that old dynamic where she was clearly top of the pack or near it, that has been switched. And Lauren's very big for the weight class, so it's almost like you're fighting a Bantamweight, and it was just a doubt. I mean, nothing went right for her, but just seeing her that slow of step,

being a step behind in every exchange, and then really just getting hit clean with everything, you know, if she wants to still compete, her name can get her into big fights, and who knows, maybe she can win them. She's got guts personified. Tate's a Hall of Fame grit, no question, right? I don't know if she can still do this on this level, though, Luke. I've got legitimate concerns.

Well, I do think there is. She's 35. This was the first time at flyweight, and the person who she fought, their previous fight was against Shevchenko. So she just fought someone coming off of a title shot. I understand that there is at least some room to question, hey, let's see what else is possible here given the circumstances. But what I will say is I'm just not seeing what we used to see. And that sounds really harsh for me, but the proof was in what you saw.

And it could be one bad night at the office. The weight cut could have affected her in ways we didn't see coming in. And that fight, a lot of it could have happened there. And to your point, you're fighting basically a number one contender. But it wasn't easy watching her get lit up with straight punches over and over again. Also, I mean, just look at the stat line on this. One person got two takedowns. Who was it?

You would have thought Tate heading into the fight would be the one. She went 0 for 7. She couldn't take a Lauren Murphy down. As a fact, it was Lauren Murphy who got two takedowns out of an attempted six. How about the striking numbers? Total attempted roughly the same, 211 to 201, Murphy to Tate. However, in terms of what landed, pretty big difference. 102 for Lauren Murphy. Misha Tate just 85. In fact,

numerically, again, not qualitatively, but numerically, Murphy outstruck her in all three rounds. Dude, she was just better everywhere. There wasn't one part of the fight where... There were parts of the fight where Tate could kind of hang a little bit. Certainly some of the takedown defense was pretty good. Some of those elbows in short distance

from Misha Tate were pretty good. Some of those elbows and short distance from Mishita were pretty good. Short of that, that was Lauren Murphy's fight. Now the funny part about her is she didn't get her start until 26 and then UFC until 30, 31. She's 38 now. She might be the exception to the rule because while she is much older,

she is still quite physical for the weight class and she doesn't have a ton of damage on her from years of athletic. She's tough as shit, too. She's super fucking tough. So I will say that Lauren Murphy has earned everything that she's ever been given. I want to point out something about her career. She came into the UFC undefeated off of three wins in Invicta,

and then she lost three of her first four. She lost to Sarah McMahon, Liz Karmouche. She beat Kelly Fastholz, and then she lost to Kaitlyn Chukagian. She asked, of course, for, I think, the upcoming Chukagian or Chukagian's filling in for someone against Manon Fiorot. Jessica Andrade. Andrade's out. Then she loses to Chukagian, beats Barb Honchak, loses to

Sajara Eubanks, and then figures it out. She goes on a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 fight win streak before a fight in Valentina, including against Joanne, Andrea Lee, Roxana Mafferi. How about her saying that I'll be there in person when they fight? Yes. Is that in France? It's in France, yeah, UFC Paris. Do you like Fiora's chances in that, given how sturdy Chukagian is?

She's hard to look great against. She's just stingy, right? They both fight at distance a little bit. I would say the biggest difference is Fiora has better judo and better top control, potentially, so that could be kind of interesting. It's a competitive fight. Chukagian, her strikes add up, is what I'm saying. She can control rounds with that jab.

She beats a lot of people. All these women are very good, it's just when they get to Valentina, it's like, oh, right, okay. So for T, I wish there were more sort of old-name super fights available to her. There's really not. She's 35 now.

We did see, by the way, Ioana Young-Jacek, who just retired, suddenly has a headline out there saying, you know what? I would come back, but only for a women's BMF official fight with the belt. If you wanted to do that, UFC, I'll do that. What do you think about Tate versus Ioana

at 125 for a women's BMF? No, we don't need it, right? I wouldn't hate it. I wouldn't hate it. What do you think about Tate Rousey 3? How many pay-per-view buys does it do? Tell me right now, how many pay-per-view buys? Five or 600K.

Not a million. Okay. Winner gets Gina and gets a role on The Mandalorian. Gets a role on The Mandalorian, yeah. In any case, extremely impressive from Lauren Murphy. Better everywhere, strong physically, great game plan. She is, to the word she used, she's a force to be reckoned with. I absolutely agree with that.

If Team Tate calls you up and says, you know, off the record, what do we do? What do you say? Get a lock for the ATV? I think that to the things you mentioned is the defensive issues striking are a problem for her. But this is the big one. It's like, dude, the takedowns have always been there for her. To not be able to

get one across 15 minutes, that's a bad sign. That's a real bad sign. So, I'm not sure. This is not a thing I'm capable of doing. I'm not an MMA coach. Would you be upset if she showed up in BKFC? I would be. Yes. Yes, I'm not sure. This is not a thing I'm capable of doing. I'm not an MMA coach. Would you be upset if she showed up in BKFC? I would be. Yes. Yes, I would. She's a legend.

Yeah, yeah. I would not be thrilled with that. And by the way, that's why I'm being so harsh, because she is a legend. What if she went to Bellator? See, that's a little bit different for me. I think she can win fights. I mean, she can win fights in UFC, obviously. She won one in her comeback. So, you're saying just short of the title number one contender status level. Okay. She lost the number one contender.

It's hard to know exactly what that means. I mean, who did she lose to on the way out of featherweight? Or bantamweight? Amanda. Yeah, right, right. Okay. Amanda. Which is like, okay, you lost to Amanda.

Like, big fucking deal, you know? No, no, no. Most recently. Ketlyn Vieira. Ketlyn Vieira. I thought you were talking about Lemos. Which was a five-round fight that was close-ish. You were talking about Nunes.

Okay. Yeah, 47-48, 47-48, 46-49. So we've seen her kind of level out in number one contender fight-ish in two divisions, right? No, not that that Vieira fight's number one contender fight, but the division is narrow enough where it could have been. It could have been, definitely. Yeah, so on that sub-level, could she win? Sure. Imagine if she ended her career with a Bellator title

or a one championship, Luke. She used to work there, you know. Yeah, that's funny. Dude, it's funny. Even against Ronda Rousey, Misha Tate got a takedown in both of those. She got three against Kat Zingano. This fight and the Lauren Murphy fight

that I can see right now are the only two she never got a takedown in. That's when she became Cupcake. From takedown tape? Yeah. In any case, so 35, you lost the number one contender. Let's see what happens, but not great so far in the comeback. All right, with that, we go to the fifth point, BC.

Let's talk a little bit of boxing. I looked it up today on the train ride. I wanted to see what was trending on YouTube videos. This is a function of geographic location. You've got a nice tan working, by the way. I guess I do. I didn't realize I had one. Would you mow the lawn? I took my daughter to the pool yesterday. She loves those splash pads.

Because we finally tested negative. It took fucking forever. And then it went to the... You know what? I've been taking my dog on walks more recently that are longer. Okay. Keep it up, dude. So I guess I'm getting a bit of a tan. Anyway, point being is this.

Okay, Ryan Garcia, who I was going to point this out. People think that the trending videos are a function of what you look at. It's not. It's only a function of your geographic location. So for the United States, as of Monday morning, Ryan Garcia had the number one and number two top trending videos on YouTube. UFC had none of them. He stops Javier Fortuna in the sixth round. BC, I watched the fight on Sunday night.

I didn't watch it live. Too bad our reaction didn't get caught in that trending trap. You know, we kind of got done. It would have been nice. It would have been nice. But I think the folks who watched, I got to say, I'll pitch it to you, but here's my initial question. Well, I want to hear your take, so don't pitch anything to me.

Okay, I thought Ryan Garcia looked fucking great. He looked great. He had a great game plan. He had Fortuna on the back foot, which you knew he was going to have. Like, how much do you, like, my reaction video was like, I'm about to tell you how great Ryan Garcia looked, but let's also get past the point that it was a doughy Fortuna. It was. It was an aging one. It was.

It was a guy who didn't impress me by his body language, his mannerisms. Okay, but Ryan Garcia, I mean, from the opening bell, set a tone. He looked reborn. Set a tone, and Fortuna had not one answer for him the entire time. Dropped him in the fourth, dropped him in the fifth, finished him off in the sixth. Did it with body shot, then on the same side goes upstairs. That check left hook is quick. He's got one of the best left hooks to the liver in all of the sport.

The one thing I did notice, and I would love to talk to a boxing trainer because I only watched it once. I haven't gone back and seen it, but I did notice. Fortuna had better foot positioning the entire time. In other words, because it was Southpaw Orthodox, that lead foot positioning, you don't have to have it, especially if you're going to go for the jab. In fact, you want to give it away.

But Fortuna was constantly to the outside, so you saw Ryan chasing across. But because Ryan had better hand speed, was more active, and just had Fortuna shook about where the other thing was coming, he was landing that right hook around the gloves constantly. He kicked Fortuna's ass.

As much as you can be a hater of him because of his celebrity name, or a hater of him because of his celebrity name or a hater of him because you look at him and you still see vulnerabilities, and this fight was big on ironing out most of the vulnerabilities, but because you can look at him and go, you know what, dude, I'm not going to buy into this until I really see him fully tested, you can miss the subtle growth.

And this fight was not just subtle growth. It was in-your-face growth. Because even if you think at the end of the day he's, you know, nothing, he's still quick as shit. That speed equals power. And here's what I talked about in the post-fight show, Luke. If you are in a position, and shout out to Joe Goosen, his trainer, who I thought was going to make him maybe a little too offensively irresponsible

because he's such an aggressive coach, it was the opposite. For 23 years old and the tumult outside of his life constantly that seeps into the ring part of it, he was straight up. If he's allowed to keep you at distance, and even though he's fighting a southpaw, he established his jab, which was key, and he filled in with those lead right hands, Floyd style,

against a southpaw perfectly to keep Fortuna at bay. If you are allowing Ryan Garcia to fight on his terms, and you're not going to get inside on him, you're going to lose, because that quickness is going to catch up to you. The poise was incredible. He never got caught in any traps, never overextended or was in bad positions.

Some of those things in the Luke Campbell fight, even though he showed tremendous heart to get up off the canvas and finish and retire, you know, a solid guy in Campbell, was we saw a lot of Darren Headlights moments, a lot of backing up straight, a lot of just like, oh, shit, one of these days he's going to be splattered across the freeway. Now, when you fight this aggressively, one of these days you may end up splattered across the freeway.

But I'm starting to gain the confidence, Luke, that it may not be too early. Like Amir Khan, for as good as he was in offensively, Amir Khan was great. There was a lot of highs and lows because Luke, he could just walk into something. This type of poise from Garcia, tell me if I'm wrong here, he's not walking into shit. This was a mature performance for a 23-year-old.

Yeah, he had the height and reach advantage, but he used it, and that's the key, Luke. He didn't get caught inside having to fight his way out. He leaned into those advantages, and that's why I did have some people hit up and say, you know, you got us kind of hyped to watch this. The fight kind of sucked. Yeah, that's because Ryan Garcia showed up and kind of ironed out any of those potential pitfalls. Right. There was times where, by the way, Fortuna tried to trap him along the ropes, and you watched him hook and then roll his way under to go back to center. Yes. So you didn't

see any of those trouble spots because Garcia wouldn't let the fight get there. So, you know, if he's not going to be a victim of his own potential self-combustion through either having recuperative skills not on the level that we think he needs to fight the type of guys he wants to fight, or, you know, through bad game planning. I mean, look, we're not that far removed from Team Canelo saying this guy doesn't have the heart and work ethic to get to where he's supposed to be, right? So, obviously, something went wrong there. There was a lot of turmoil in his life. He took a mental health break. But whatever it is, that Joe Goosen

connection seems to be working now. Tell me if I'm crazy, Luke. But the idea of him fighting Tank, and he talked about it a lot afterwards. Tank even tweeted about it, right? Affirmatively, like, yeah, let's do it. There is a lot of potential problems in this fight getting made politically.

But I feel like Ryan turned off a lot of those things that were maybe key things of getting in the way. I feel like he may have made the kind of leap that makes it easier for this fight to get made because he kind of legitimized himself with his performance. He really did. He really did. The Chico fight was very underwhelming to me. Very. This was the exact opposite. And he was reckless in that fight, too, man.

He just came out just throwing shit left and right. No, this one was, I felt like he had such a good sense of when to press the gas. Command is the word. Yes, and when to press the brakes. And it wasn't the brakes for very long, but just the right moments to make sure he could always be in the driver's seat of this fight to take command in that way. Dude, it was good decision-making from Ryan Garcia. And Joe Goosen, what the fuck was up with his Canadian tuxedo?

My man just loves denim. I was a pro. He said he has upwards of 30 to 40 different Canadian tuxedos. So, Luke, here's the best part about Joe Goosen. Remember that shirt you wore in the Corrales-Castillo fight? Yes. It looks like the kind of shirt you put on when you were 21 and you went out to the club? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He buys these outfits specifically for the fight, wears them one time, puts them in an airtight sealed bag, and puts it in his closet. Wow. One of these days, we've got to get the MK cameras in there and just go fight by fight, shirt by shirt. That would be awesome, actually. Tell us the story. But, Luke, at the end of the day, would you favor Tank Davis against him?

I still think you have to say yes. That's me talking. I still think you have to say yes. Tank Davis has beaten better fighters. It's not quite at the 50-50 level that the DAZN commentators were making it sound. But a performance like this, showing you that Ryan Garcia can carry out a game plan and carry it against a guy with a pulse. Didn't bring out his best, I thought, Fortuna, but still a dangerous pulse.

This closed the gap on the competitiveness in that fight because somebody with Ryan Garcia's sublime offensive abilities, and they are. He's fast as shit. He has intention to knock you the fuck out. He does. Tank could get caught in that web. I'm still favoring Tank to win. I think he's the better boxer of the two.

I think he's more experienced. He's fought more guys at different weight classes. But that fight just got closer in the public eye. And that may be the thing you need to get it over the hump, to get everyone involved, which would take two networks most likely and two promoters and two

of everything from both sides of the street. I feel like, you know, given Ryan's number one Google search, we know he's got, you know, nine million Instagram followers, whatever it is. We know Tank can pack any arena and is turning a steady uphill climb in pay-per-view buys and becoming something legitimate. I think we just got closer to this being a reality. Okay, but the one caveat is, and let's put it back to you,

is that after the fight, he's like, dude, I'm not going back to 135. That's interesting. I feel better at 140. I feel so much better at 140. It's 140 or bust. And he even said, if they can't make the Tank Davis fight, I'm happy to fight Teofimo Lopez at 140 pounds, which, by the way, not mad at that fight either.

I would love to see that contest. Or can we finally have the Haney fight? Teofimo has a fight coming up in August. We'll see how things go for him. What do you make of the 140 argument? I love that he was so stringent. I'm done with 135. I'm done. Look, here's the deal. All the young

names in the sport that are poised to take it over, they're all in or just below 135. But they're all slowly moving up, right? Tao just moved up. Dude, Tank's been saying he'll fight at 140. He already did. He fought Mario Barrios at pay-per-view at 140. Tank's willing to do it. A lot of these guys are ready to move up.

For him to—tell me how important you think this is. For Ryan Garcia to know ahead of time that this is the right move, rather than a poor performance in a big fight telling him that his body has outgrown the weight class. I think this is going to end up being strategically key for him. Maybe a big part of why he looks so different could be the comfortability with Joe Goosen. It could be matchup oriented. It could be a lot of things. But I think also not having to worry about that.

We saw him a full-fledged. I think the broadcast said he rehydrated up into the high 150s. I mean, he's a big, tall, long kid. If he's going to come in there even stronger and not have to worry about the taxing of himself, that's only going to make him more offensively potent. It's only going to allow him to take a punch better, in theory. Rashad Evans always talks about when you cut hard weight, you don't have that punch resistance because your brain, from one shot, can quickly take you to shaky ground.

Fair point. Totally true. But also, just think about something. This guy even admitted that he had suicidal ideation. Yes. It sounds silly, but I do believe it's true that if you're trying to actually, if you come from that kind of a place and you're trying to get better, dude, never underestimate how good feeling good is for you.

And if he feels good and he feels comfortable and he's got this new trainer and he's really working through the style and he's having these performances, all of it feeds together to reinforce that's the direction I should go. I don't want to make these difficult cuts. Probably he could do it and do well, but it's about feeling good. It's about getting centered. It's about everything being the way that it sort of feels like it's supposed to be. 140 feels like that for him.

I don't know what's best for him. Only he does. It's a shame because I think there's bigger fights at 135. But, dude, if they make that Lopez fight at 140, just throwing it out there, I would fucking love that. You know his biggest fights are going to be at welterweight and super welterweight. You know that, right? He has the

same type of body as Oscar De La Hoya, who started at 130 and then 35 and then moved up. So for him at 23 to do this, Luke, you're right about the mental side. It's got to be on point for him to be on point in the ring. And it's not just the scare with the mental health challenges he's had. We know he has haters. But, Luke, you know, he went through the divorce with Canelo, which was very public,

seeing his name called out and criticized by a guy that he probably looked up to as an older brother. Whether you think Canelo was doing that for the right purposes or not, that had to get to him. He's always got baby mama drama. I'm just saying it is what it is, Luke, outside the ring. There's always things to get to him. He's always got baby mama drama. I'm just saying, it is what it is. Look outside the ring. There's always things going on with him. This seemed like the most mature and complete, not just performance, but the way he carried himself. Do you put any stock in the post-fight interview?

You know who texted me? Phil McKagan. You know that motherfucker. Yeah, I know Phil McKagan. Associate head coach, Colorado football. He said, look, I had the fight on and my wife comes in the other room after that post-fight interview and goes, who's this kid? He's a star.

The way he carried himself, the humility he showed afterwards, whether you want to buy into his whole spiritual rebirth or not, Luke, he seems grounded. He seems ready. He seems ready. He just seemed comfortable. In the Luke Campbell fight, he didn't look all that – certainly early, he did not look comfortable.

Dude, he looked comfortable from the word go. Joe Goosen and everything else that's happened in his life has given him just a degree of, I don't know, breathability, it seems like. He can just sort of relax a little bit. And when he's relaxed and focused, not relaxed to the point of lazy, but not agitated or nervous. When he's even keeled, dude, he can do amazing, amazing things. I was actually, I was, I went into this fight because I'd missed it live.

I went into it being like, yo, I can't wait to hate on this motherfucker like it's a Thor movie. And then I saw it and I was like, you know what? That was actually, I actually walked away being like, okay, I am so much more excited for his future than I was after the to-go fight. The sport could use a star like him.

I've been equally critical of you. I'm the one telling you that if, you know, this gunslinger mentality, it's going to get him hurt. This is a new Ryan Garcia, though. I've come around, you know, let's make the big fights. And Luke, he seems like he really wants to. So it's going to come down to Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy being as willing to match him tough as he is.

The thing going in his favor, of course, to make these type of super fights and two network pay-per-views is no one's questioning his star value. We don't know if that equates fully into pay-per-view bias because he hasn't been on that level yet. Although this fight, I think, was a pay-per-view in Canada for DAZN or whatever. I think weird things going on there. You get what I'm saying. Now it's going to be, you know, will Steven Espinosa and Showtime, for example, if it comes down to that,

want to be part of this, want to make this fight. Him versus Tank, you think it could move pay-per-view buys? It's going to blow up the internet for sure. I think with a properly

promoted fight, let's assume that's in play, they do a media tour of the whole nine, I think that does north of 500K. Yeah. That fight...

Maybe as high as 750K. You want to talk about drama? Yeah. Even if nothing's happening, the heightened drama of knowing that both of those two are going to be going to cut the head off and they're going to be going big. You're going to have some moments. Those two guys represent like youth in boxing in ways that almost no two other guys do. Like Kambosis and Lopez don't. Right.

Haney does. Haney's part of that conversation. Shakur's coming on. Shakur Stevenson, obviously, as well. But, like, two big guys who can actually do pay-per-views. Stevenson's not there yet. These two guys, it feels to me like... Stars.

They are absolute stars. They are. Those are the two guys you would pick as, like, the youthful, vibrant, next-level stars of boxing. To put them together would be incredible. Final question on this. Would Tank and Ryan Garcia be a constant threat of both loading up one big power shot, or will it actually be a boxing match at times? Do you think Ryguy can box on the level of Tank in between the big dangerous moments in this fight?

Yes. Yes, I do. Because I think a guy—you go back to back to dude of Rolly Romero can put a guy like tank on his heels Ryan with physicality Ryan Garcia Rolly Romero is not the technician that that Garcia is but he he's got balls and he has decent to good power and and he was he had tank a little bit like until you of course he got a little bit sloppy. I think the difference in reach is going to be big there with Ragai and Tank.

Real quick on Roley, he was in the crowd. He didn't call Ryan Garcia afterwards. He called out Errol Spence Jr. at 147. Yeah, I mean, I don't give a fuck about that shit. I mean, dude, Errol Spence, even Errol was like. On Twitter, he's like, are we really talking about this? Yeah, no, like, I mean, Errol would completely fucking obliterate him. Do you think he should go to 140, Roley, and just take on big names?

What do you think? Sure. I mean, Ryguy versus Roley, you into that? Wouldn't hate it. Wouldn't pay for it on pay-per-view, but I wouldn't hate it. Okay. Wouldn't hate it. Just checking your pulse here.

Yeah. But I have to say, if you were waiting for Ryan Garcia to turn a corner, I think you'd have to be in denial to say he didn't turn one on Saturday. He really did. Give me the state of his tattoo game at the moment. The ones on his back, they are well done. They are really well done.

I just... I just... When you think about tattoos, you have to think about the contours of the human body and to what extent does it complement them or not. Just putting three – the sword kind of fits, but the three crowns or the two crowns, whatever it is, it just – They are well done, the crowns. They are extremely well done.

Whoever technically applied them did a really great job. The ones in the front look like they came out of an eight-mile trailer, though. Yeah, the ones over the chest like this, the two – What do you think if you just got, show me your butthole, and was just like, I'm not hiding it, you know what I mean? Jan 6th. I mean, it could work for him, you know? I will say this.

I feel like, as a lesson to all young dudes out there, because women I don't feel like are as prone to getting these, if you're going to get a black and gray portrait over your chest, make sure you're paying top dollar. Yeah. Because otherwise it looks like you did five years for car robbery in some kind of prison somewhere. I don't want to call you out, but I saw you lift your right wrist

just for a moment before, and there was a tip of a red thing sticking out, and it kind of looked, yeah, that thing right there. Can you set it up and show the audience? It's a rope. Yeah, but it looked like when you had your sleeve up just a little bit. Can you push your sleeve up just a little bit? Yeah. No, no, push it up toward your wrist, but show just the right tip right there.

That thing, it looked a little Brock Lesnar-ish right there, right there. Okay? I was like, what is that, a fox's dong? What do you got going on there? Yes, it's a fox's dong. That's right. You ever seen a dog get a boner? That's what that is, bro.

To remind you where you came from. The old pink rocket. Valdosta, bitch. That's what the V stands for. Actually, it stands for Violetta. Hey, wait, did you graduate from Valdosta? No, my brother did. What did you graduate from?

Marietta High School. Would you ever wear Marietta's swag on an NBA show? Fuck no. Fuck no, dude. I couldn't wait to get the fuck out there. Because I'd rep the Nauggy Greyhounds anytime. Naugty's like in the house. Was that your mascot, the Greyhounds?

Oh, yeah, baby. So Valdosta is the Wildcats. And then, unless they've changed it. Wildcats is solid. That's good. Yeah, it's okay. I mean, Greyhounds is not a great name. By any means, they just make it work, Naugty,

because they're tough as shit. And then Marietta was the Blue Devils, like Duke. Okay. Yeah, a bunch of white power supremacists. Probably, probably. All right. Although Valdosta is the majority black. Okay, that is it for our top five.

Yeah, we should just go. No, no, no. Now it's time for the donks to ask us questions. It's time for DMs from donks. No one has seen the TV, so I'm just going to read them off the screen. Hee-haw. Oh, wrong animation here, Long Island.

Have you seen this shit? Hey, you know who's back on the show today? Manit. She hasn't worked here in like two months. Yeah, no wonder everything is a little bit fucked up back there. Gaff on vacation. Now we're seeing what's happening right here. There we go.

All right, all right. Here we go. I just threw it on the screen. I'll read it off the screen. Don't worry. Don't have to email me. Viewers. Let's see.

All right. From Emilio Bruce. Who would you favor to win if the fight goes to the ground between Islam and Olivera? Okay, so this is where we hit it. They announced this on Saturday's broadcast. It is official October 22nd, Abu Dhabi pay-per-view. We're getting it. Shout out to the UFC doing the right thing here.

What do you mean? Mahachev. Yeah. I mean, come on. Well, I even said, like, if Olivera wants to take the Conor fight, if that was even in play, because he wants big money or whatever, I'm not mad at him. But then you lose that designation as, like, I'm the guy in the division. No, you're not. Once you choose not to fight Islam, you're not.

But he did. He's going to fight Islam. All right, let me ask that question to you in pieces. Here we go. I actually answered this a little bit on my live chat. I do have some thoughts on it. Will Islam be able to take Charlie Olives down at will? Yes.

How much of a threat? I mean, I will. I mean, okay, does Olive stuff in one or two count? The same resistance Connor showed early against Habib,

which was, he showed some resistance. Oh, no, I don't think he takes them down that easily. Okay, and how dangerous is Charles' jiu-jitsu against somebody as grappling smart as Islam.

Very good. It's extremely difficult. I don't give a fuck who you are. One time I was talking to a buddy of mine. I'll give him a shout out. Seth Smith of Upstream BJJ in Richmond, Virginia. And he was trying to explain to me, like, I won't go through the whole thing. But he was like, dude, we were talking about Verdum fighting Brandon Vera and that fight.

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Verdun moved to mount. And he was like, let me just explain to you, that's a world champion's mount. It doesn't matter even if you're another world champion. You are dealing with a mount that is extraordinary. So yeah, even for Islam, it would be, I think, not catastrophic to go into his guard, but highly inadvisable. It's kind of like when the 2001 version of Shaquille O'Neal backs you into the paint.

It don't matter who you are. It doesn't really matter who you are. You're going to get dunked on. That's just the way it goes. What I would say is my thought was what I think they're going to be looking for, and Charlie Olives is going to have to have some kind of strategy around this, I think they're going to be looking to create capture and takedowns from angles, which is to say what they are looking for is not a double straight on.

They're going to want to get a body lock. They're going to want to go from a single to a body lock and then trip or whatever in a certain direction and then make Charlie fight from turtle, make him fight from some kind of position. Just think about it rationally. What does Oliveira do that people love? He just walks you down, right?

He'll clinch and walk you down. So you would never want to fight him straight on this way standing. The same rule applies on the ground. You would not, his guard is irrelevant if he doesn't have it, right? So if he's fighting from turtle by making him wrestle to his hands, if he's fighting from an angle where you have captured the wrist and you're around the back, his guard becomes irrelevant in those circumstances.

That's what you're looking for. You're looking for something like that. Now, of course, he's going to resist it. Easier said than done. But my thought is they're going to be looking for single legs to body locks, body locks to angular capture. I cannot wait to see what this fight looks like because it could be anything. It could be Oliveira

vulnerable until he's not, and then he finishes it. It could be one-way Islam-Russian hammer traffic. It could be a lot of different things. I want to find out if Islam Mahachev is not just for real, but like Junior Habib level for real. Luke, he might be Junior Habib level for real. He might be.

Here's another part, too. Oliveira could get his ass kicked for a little while, but we know he's willing to go there. I just said it. Well, here's what I mean. We haven't seen Islam willing to go there. That's true. And if he drags him late, Islam could win the first three rounds, 10-9, even a 10-8 in there somewhere. And I could see Charlie Olive absolutely destroying him in the fourth.

I firmly believe any margin of error in this one is going to be super costly to the other person. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready for it. We should do something special for that fight. It's in Abu Dhabi, so we're not going to be there. I'm not going there. No. I can tell you that.

By the way, we did ask every MMA journalist we come across, what's that flight and treatment like when you go there? Yeah, and everyone to a man fucking hates it. They were like, don't ever go there. Yeah, don't ever do it. No, it's not the treatment. It's the length of the flights, and you're kind of just stuck there. Also, it's a repressive government, so there's that too. Okay, next. What, the UFC's brass? Are you talking about the— No, no, no, not the treatment. It's the length of the flights, and you're kind of just stuck. Also, it's a repressive government, so there's that, too.

Okay, next. What, the UFC's brass? Are you talking about the— No, no, no, the UAE. Okay, from jdavis4— Imagine being like, what's your Instagram handle? Yeah, I'm jsdavis48076. It rings off the fucking—

Well, maybe that's his identification number there at Sing Sing. You know what I mean? Look, okay, maybe that's how they. At Rikers? Yeah. The PFL released their payouts from the last event in Georgia. Any thoughts on the amounts of the payouts? Yeah.

Fucking Kayla Harrison and Anthony Showtime Pettis making the killing. Now, those are not complete payments. Those are only what they have to declare. There can be other bonuses that are structured in that don't account for it. But they had Kayla at $500,000, although I'm told she probably makes about a million about. And then they had $750,000 for Showtime. And my thought is, good. Good for him. Showtime brings eyeballs.

He does. And everyone's like, Kayla's done more for the PFL. No question. No question. But I will always tell you this, and this was true. I remember one time we had Stefan Bonner in studio for MMA Uncensored Live, and he was, we were talking about.

At the time he was sober, at the time he was sober, and that's kind of a cruel joke there. It was not a joke, it was a question, but thank you. It's a fair one, in the cruel joke kind of way. But he, we were talking about, Hector Lombard had just been signed, and I can't remember if he had fought Tim Boach or not, but I remember that he had just been signed from Bellator. And he was making, I think at the time, the checks were like 400k plus, right? Which then was, even now, but even then was very, very big.

And the thing we sort of realized was like it's better to be this free agent that the UFC has to go and get because it ups your ability to get money. It's a similar situation. Showtime Pettis is a former UFC lightweight champion. Fans love him. He has an action style.

When you get recruited by another organization or they want your services, it can be better for your financial gain than to be the homegrown one, even if I can grant that the homegrown one is much more the pillar of that organization in ways that Showtime Pettis cannot be. That's fair. That's all good right there. Yeah. That's about all Pettis cannot be. That's fair. That's all good right there. Yeah, that's about all I got on that topic. That's fine.

All right, next. At TJ underscore Padro. Live show for UFC 281 at MSG. So we haven't officially talked to the channels that be to make this happen, and I know we've sort of tied it into Havel for us for this new podcast award. Who knows? But let's talk turkey right now, Luke, since it is right around Thanksgiving. This is very possible, isn't it?

It is very possible, and I really very much hope we do this. There is one Showtime producer showed up today, and he's here. And he was all like, you know, we can't do this doc on time, it's bankable hours, and I'm like, don't talk about the birth pains.

Show me the head. Yeah. Our producers in our ear just go, dude, what the fuck are you talking about? It's a great question, BC. What the fuck are you talking about? Sometimes it just flies right over a little bit. Oh, it's not confusing to me. I'm not confused. I just find it lame. It's a little bit of a different. Kind of like Thor. You Oh, it's not confusing to me. I'm not confused.

I just find it lame. It's a little bit of a different. Kind of like Thor. It's just fucking terrible. If I brought the intensity. Hey, let's have these goats just scream as a joke that keeps going on for fucking two hours. I like that bit. It was fine.

It was fine for the first five fucking minutes. Some people think if I bring my BC boxing intensity to the regular MK, we could go to a whole new level. Luke, I'm not convinced yet, though. Yeah, the point is we would very much like to do it. I don't know how doable it is, candidly, but we... I think we could do it. Well, here's the thing. I mean, can we bring Donks into the studio right here? Let me just say this to answer the question maybe halfway.

I used to, when SiriusXM wouldn't do live shows for us, I used to do literal tweet-ups and they would be full. They would be full. I don't want to do tweet-ups as much as I love our people. I want to perform. Okay, but they can get a mic in the house and shit like that. Like, you can do basic... Yeah, you can have that too. You can have margaritas. Either way, I'm just pointing out,

there are ways to, like, glad hand with the donks if you want to. I got an idea. Did you see Get Back, the Beatles documentary on whatever it is? I didn't finish it. It's fucking long. It is long. I didn't finish it either, but I did enjoy a lot of it. Why don't we do a Beatles rooftop concert on the roof?

You know where we film pregame preview up there? We fill it with as many donks as we can. We get that PA system and just blow it out into the streets, and then we do it until the police come up and shut us down with the dock cameras running. I would rather just go to the roof and then watch pornography with the neighbors. With the guy across the way? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'll keep

you informed. We really want to. We really want to. Oh, Corey's wondering how I soak this here. Yeah, it keeps spilling. I keep pouring water into this cup and then I pour too much and it runneth over, sort of like the humor and joy that I bring to this show. If anyone can help me out with a paper towel, they're just all going to stare at me. Just use your shirt

like a real man. Are we experiencing budget cuts, Luke? Are we in the midst of the end of our day right now? Apparently. Next one here, please. Alright, from BigDog BigNuts4Toy. Yo, what's your username? I'm guessing this guy did not get $1,s if you guys were to switch bodies Freaky Friday style

What is the first thing you would do? Do I should I dunk or or drink 50 beers which which one would I do first? Well, you have to go back in time for this What would I was the first thing I would do? Can I stay on camera? Oh, no. I don't want to mention significant others. That would be weird.

Don't cross lines. Yeah, I'm not going to cross any lines. But that would be in play, though, Freaky Friday style. What, to go? What are you, a swinger? Is this what's going on? No, no, I'd be mortified. I would call you. Thank you.

I would call you and be like, what do we do to get this situation fixed? Rectified? Yeah, rectified. Rectum? Damn near killed him. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

I mean, what am I? I don't know, Luke. It's not like you're. What can I gain from being you for an hour? Not much. If you gave me an hour of your body, Luke. Not much. Not much.

Not much. All right. I mean, could I go debate someone? Could I body, Luke, okay? Not much. Not much, all right? I mean, could I go debate someone? Could I go win a chess match? You could win a low-T contest. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, but the question was, what's the first thing you do? Check your navel tag.

Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Because the suspense has been built up so much, Luke. Yeah, it really has. What's the first thing I'd do for you? I'd probably wonder what that sharp pain in my gut is and go to the doctor. You wouldn't go and get like a really bad haircut? Oh, that's a good call. Yeah, I might do that.

Actually, I'd shave your beard because I want to see what it looks like. Does it look like that picture of you when you're young that says Donk on it? You know that one when you were like... No, I don't look quite that I want to see what it looks like. Does it look like that picture of you when you're young that says Donk on it? You know that one when you were... No, it don't look quite that bad. I was sick at that time. I would love to see you without facial hair. Look, anything good? Our producer Mikey says you would go live on my channel.

My YouTube channel? Oh, yeah. You probably would. The difference is people would hear me for the first ten minutes. That's the difference. That's a fair joke. Yeah, that is. What can I say?

I think we have one or two more. From Fahey.Liam. What's the best vape flavor? Watermelon, baby, right? I would say that of the ones I've tried, now my wife likes very different ones. She vapes as well, by the way. Oh, get out of here.

I got it from her. I got it from her. So here's the truth. You all right? I learned it by watching you it from her. So here's the truth. You alright? I learned it by watching you. No, no. Here's the truth. We were on vacation and I usually smoke weed most days, but I didn't want to take any with me

to Columbia because I'm not about to be a drug mule doing that shit. You're missing your... I know. It was because of my thing. So I was like, well, I would prefer some kind of smoke. Just something to put in my mouth. She's like, I've got this vape. And I'm like, all right, I'll try it. And at first it gives you a nicotine high and your head gets all woo. And then I was like, oh, that's kind of fun.

It's like doing whippets. Oh, yeah. We were doing whippets back in the day. Usually in a parking lot of a fast food establishment in the way back. Yeah, I did them in the woods in Georgia. So then I did that, but then I just kind of got addicted and then kept it up. So what I would say is for me, I like a little watermelon mint. That's my go-to you ever do whippers out of the full tank like when you knew somebody I we would do the cartridges

Oh, I'd like artridge that ship Did you ever end up knowing somebody who knew somebody who worked out like a medical facility? And then you go over someone's house you end up with like a tank this big and you're like I guess it turned into This type of party you know those are when you you must have fried you know Nor I mean look when you have stories like that, you know you lived, Luke, or maybe you died and came back a few times.

Sorry, I lost my mic here. Yeah, so the watermelon mint has been my go-to. All right, that's it for the dub-tee portion of the show, Luke. Oh, yeah, is this the part where you elevate the brand?

Yeah, thank you for that. Time for BC's Feces, everyone. Let me cue it up here. You know what this segment is all about. Apparently, in person, it's way better because we can react in real time. There's no tape delay to that. What I did is I scoured the globe this weekend for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, and combat sports and beyond just to bring joy to my co-host's face. This one's called Have You Seen This Shit?

All right, Luke. UFC, Fight Night, ABC, Long Island. Let's start here. Puna Lahey Soriano, Luke. Puna Haley? Puna Haley. Puna Lahey? I don't think it's Puna Haley.

Puna... Haley? Puna Haley? Puna Haley Soriano. He scores a big KO. The kid bangs. Apparently it goes even deeper. Did you see this dance against the cage, Luke? Yeah, Eric Nixick was mocking him for it. He was his coach. He then humps the cage. And then he does the jack-off

motion as well. Boy, he was pumped. That's B to E right there, right? A little bit, yeah. I suppose. I bet you he's a great hang. Would you get him on this couch? I'd get him on this couch. Oh, yeah. Those Hawaiians, man, you're missing out. If you're listening, Puna, let's get in touch, okay? I'd get him on this couch. Oh, yeah. Hey, Puna. Those Hawaiians, man, you're missing out. Puna, if you're listening, Puna, let's get in touch, okay? We want you right on this couch.

Also, I have to say, obviously, I don't know much about Hawaii, but from what I've known about Hawaii by meeting Hawaiian fighters, very friendly people. Oh, the best. Very friendly people. The best. The only thing I used to know about them was that they love ice because of Dog the Bounty Hunter, but that was very stereotypical.

It's a little on the, yeah. Speaking of Puna, Luke, we talked about we want to hang with him. He was ready to get all up in that sauce, Luke, the Hans Molenkamper variety, Luke. Did you see this? Yeah, this is the one. He was doing the facial bit. There it is.

There it is. I bet you that guy could put down 50 drinks like a prime Luke Thomas. He probably could. I bet you he could. He probably could, yeah. Luke, let's go over to middleweight Dustin Stolfus taking Dwight Grant on a Frank Trigg-type journey here, Luke. Yeah, and he crashes on top of him. See that?

Oh, God. He doesn't just dump him and then get on top. He drives his shoulder into him as they crash like that. That's like Davey Boy Smith of the running power slam, Luke. By the way, this guy Stoltzfus, apparently I just thought he had a German name and that was it. He has a master's degree in German language.

Wow. Master's degree in burying some fools, right? Damn. Alright, he won that fight, Luke. Let's go over to Sumadarji, I guess. Sumadarji is how we will correctly pronunciate it. Luke, he had his own slam. This is like the WWE sidewalk slam

variety. Yeah, the old Omoplata slam, which only made the Omoplata worse. Just part of a batshit crazy fight. Shout out to that. So this was round one of the fight. Luke, the audio, as we mentioned earlier in this fight from the

announcers, was off the charts. Here's DC losing his frickin' mind as Schnell was mid comeback. Someone, someone tweeted this video. This is like DC commentating this event. And it was just a big fat pug who was screaming. Yes. That's like when you're in a public restroom, Luke, and you don't courtesy flush. You just tear it up.

And the next guy that comes in, he's like, oh, my God. Have you ever had that happen to you? Yes. Yes, you have. I may have created a few. Yes, yes, you have. I've been able to react to it. Luke, is this the greatest and most gnarliest fight pic ever? I mean, seriously.

It's up there. That's one of the best MMA photos you'll ever see. Can you zoom in on this? I don't know who the author is. I'd love to shout him out. It's Moles96. Let me tell you who's... Oh, Ed Mulholland.

Yeah, Ed Mulholland. Big boxing guy. He's the one with the red Ruckers hat at every combat sports ringside. Yeah, he did it. He took this one. Holy, shout out to Ed Mulholland. Holy crap. He's the one with the red Ruckers hat at every combat sports ringside. He took this one. Shout out to Ed Mulholland. Holy crap, this is about as vicious as it gets.

You see the agony of defeat apropos with the Wild World of Sports jacket. Also, one more point about this that I thought was important is that the referee didn't intervene because Sumidarji tapped. He had to put this fucking guy's lights out to win this one, and I do think that that should matter. Wherever you rank it, wherever you put it, the fact that he had to put the other guy's lights out to win, to me, is kind of relevant. Luke, also, we may hear more of this on Extra Credit, I'm not sure,

but the damn leech, Lee Jianliang, with a hell of a victory, and to celebrate, look at him out here hip-tossing half of his team, Luke. Hip-tossing. Better work on your breakfalls, bitches. Ha-ya! Boom! I'm into this type of celebration. Yeah! Normally they do, normally it's the coach throwing the other guy like when they get promoted or something. They get a black belt?

Yeah, whatever they do. But this time he turned, Maya held the turntables, right? Yeah, Maya held the, yeah, there you go. Alright. Let's advance here, Luke.e, the turntables, right? Yeah, Maya Howe, the, yeah, there you go. All right. Let's advance here, Luke. Speaking, I did want to get your thoughts. It was big for the crew to get the ABC Wild World of sports jackets. I mean, John Ennick's reaction in this photo when they put out the video revealing it says it all.

He seemed to be a big champion for this behind the scenes. Luke, some people ripped this. I thought this was awesome. Are they gaudy? Yes. Who was ripping it? I saw some people going, okay, that was cool for a photo op, but do we have to spend the whole night in it?

I have to say, dude, growing up, why would all the sports like this? I'm old enough where this matters to me. Also, a lot of MMA fans, I've talked about it before, they're not sports fans. John Eddick is a sports fan. He worked in D.C. briefly for what they call George Michael's Sports Machine. Oh, I love that show. He gets it. He understands how D.C. briefly for what they call George Michael's Sports Machine.

Oh, I love that show. So he gets it. He understands how significant that is. That show was on Sunday night on NBC. The New York affiliate would have that. That guy was the best. It was one of the best shows in the country. Yeah, absolutely. So shout out to John Anik and company pulling off that yellow. It was compared by Brandon Wise, our colleague, to the gaudy yellow canvas that UFC 200. UFC 200, yeah, which they called piss the gaudy yellow canvas that UFC 200.

Which they called piss. I would love to see that come back one time, would you? Piss? No, the different color canvases for big events. Yeah, I like that kind of thing. Like a major. Maybe we only do it twice a year. What is it? Boise State that has the blue field?

It's gimmicky, but I fucking like that. I feel like when you see highlights of it, you'll always, oh, that's a playoff. That's a big one. So what are the majors right now in the UFC, the four majors, if we had to assign them? Is it Madison Square Garden in November? Yeah, obviously T-Mobile. International Fight Week.

Usually the December T-Mobile card is usually in there. What would be the fourth? Is there a consistent one? There tends to be a March-April one that's always really big. Sometimes Brooklyn, sometimes Houston. Yeah, but now it's like, what about London now that things are kind of kicking off there? What if you did one in Abu Dhabi, one in MSG, International Fight Week, and then, what, you just were like... This idea that we have to turn...

You want to tighten your throats? Listen, if the UFC wants to put fights in Abu Dhabi, that's their right. I'll watch them. It's fine. I actually like it because there's afternoon cards. It's great. But I'm not turning that into some hub that it's not. Like, it's just a place that they're holding fights. It's not special in that sense.

It's hot as shit there. Yeah. No. Like, it's not like, oh, this is an important place in the geography of the fight game. No, the fuck it is not. No, it is not. Sorry. No.

Okay. Okay. Very, you know, he's firm, but he's fair. Luke Thomas. Oh, let's go back to the UFC here, no. Okay, very, you know, he's firm, but he's fair, Luke Thomas. Let's go back to the UFC here, Luke. T-City and Yair, Mexican-Americans, but the love here, Luke, between them. Big, yeah. You know, Yair from Mexico, Ortega Mexican-American.

I love the kinship, the brotherhood. This is before Friday's ceremonial weigh-in. The fact that they can be this much in love with each other like you and me and then go out there and just tear each other up. Yes, the difference is when I hug you like this, you usually get the taser out and say, help, I need an adult. You tend to jab me from behind

with your peinus, as noted in the famous hug. I hope when Jake puts together this documentary, if they ever let him, that he does a lot of time on that hug because it was uncomfortable. It was very comfortable for me. I mean, the upper half was very loving, man-bro-ish, man-love. The bottom half was like...

It was Punaheli Soriano. What are you going to do? Listen, if you were better about regular handshakes, which you never do... You're like, if you let me put my hands on your thigh more... No, it's not even that. BC doesn't like any kind of physical touch, even like bro physical touch. He hates it. So I had my one moment to get a hug in there, and then I decided to ratchet things up a little bit.

But it's only because you hate, you can't stand another human. Watch. Well, maybe the human is you in this case. You ever try to put a cat into a thing of water? That's him right there. Maybe it's not me. Maybe it's you, Luke. All right.

Here's T-City getting loose before the main event, dancing with his teammate. Is that the Spaniard behind him? That's the Crip Walk, I think. No, no, the Juan Archuleta with him. Are they teammates, Luke? Yes, they trade together. Let's zoom in on here, please, Long Island Luke in the back.

Doing the old Serena Williams. Ah, yeah. A little heel-toe action. Dude, I love me some Juan Archuleta, Luke. I do. He's a fun dude. He really can't do the heel toe there a bit. Do you like him in the flannel

walking into the arena with Tracy Cortez? Like I said, dude, does it work for me? No. But I'm going to guess that Brian Ortega is considered by most cooler than me. Oh, yeah. I'm going to imagine that that's a true thing. He's climbing my favorite fighter ranking,

especially with Ioana's retirement, really quickly. So I'm going to say that whatever he wants to wear is probably fine. All right, Luke, let's go to the Burns Bros, Gilbert and Herbert. Yeah. This is beforehand, before the fight, Luke, the tortilla challenge the UFC was putting out. So what the fuck is this? I've seen this on social media.

I'm guessing their mouth is filled with water and you have to try to. Well, this is just how you spread COVID right here. You have to try to pop the other person's mouth, Luke, by slapping them. With a tortilla? Yeah. Don't you need like a bigger tortilla than that? That's like a little ass tortilla. I don't know much about tortillas, Luke, okay?

Dude, okay, so I learned this the hard way. There are obviously different sizes, but some can be a little bit subtle as you get bigger. When you make quesadillas, see, that's hard to make a quesadilla with that one. You could do it, obviously, but it's a little hard. You need, like, the big joints, like the 12-inch joints, so you can fold it in half. Yeah, the Philly Blunt joints. Yeah, exactly. All right.

That was before. Luke, here is after. This picture made the rounds after that war Herbert Burns had but came up empty against Bill Algeo. Yeah. He tore his knee. That was terrible. That was tough to watch there. But, you know, he is his brother's keeper at the end of the day, Luke.

My brother would just be like, call an Uber. I'm not going to help you. Can we do a dot cam where we somehow track down your family and we get Jake in there to sit down and do like a real serious sit down about like. He will not do that. Your brother and father will reject that. There's a 0.0. Even if they came to his house.

First of all, they'd call the cops. They're never going to do that. Wow. It's never going to happen. You could maybe, maybe get my sister to get involved, but you could never get my brother. All right. Let's go to Michelle Watterson. Karate Hate didn't go her way in the cage that night, but you could never get my brother involved. Let's go to Michelle Watterson.

Didn't go her way in the cage that night, but two days before, Luke, she got her Times Square close-up. Let's zoom in here. Yes, please. Let's definitely zoom in. They love New York, Luke, and they're willing to tell the world they do. Yep. I love that city. Wow. Because of this?

Well, not just because of this. I mean, this is kind of gross, Luke. Because of this? Well, not just because of this. I mean, this is kind of gross. Kind of gross? That one on the right, you know, if I was 20 years younger... You ever see the people that dress up like Spider-Man when they take their mask off to refill the water? Yeah, like when you see Mario

who takes his hat... Oh, wow, that guy's just a regular dude who rides the bus or whatever. But the one on the right is... Well, that's just my kind of mohair. Real's about to recognize Real, Luke. This was backstage at some UFC event. Francis Ngannou and New Orleans Pelican star Brandon Ingram, who, Luke, he's nasty.

Well, I mean, the Lakers did trade him. Dude, his numbers have just been skyrocketing. They've been better, yeah. He's a good-ass player, Luke, okay? I know that you don't give him the love. I like Brandon Ingram just fine. Okay. Very Luke warm right there, Luke. All right.

Speaking of real recognizing real, Luke, how about MK Donk? He goes by SNickDiaz on Twitter, which is supposed to be Strikeforce version of Nick Diaz. Luke, he somehow trained with Tony Ferguson this week and showed up in MK gear and got a picture. Yeah, he's a hero of mine, this kid. Nick Diaz, my man. Look at that. That is. I think Tony looked at that shirt and was like, what the fuck are you wearing?

No. Tony doesn't seem like the kind of guy to police what people wear. Okay. Do you think he remembers giving you that gift? I'm sure he does. Okay. It was a little weird, but I'm down with it. It wasn't that weird. We go back, Tony and wear. Okay. Do you think he remembers giving you that gift? I'm sure he does. Okay. It was a little weird, but I'm down with it.

It wasn't that weird. We go back, Tony and I. Okay. I'm into that. Maybe one day I'll give you a gift besides the gift I gave you by joining forces with you. COVID.

I've given him an each of that. I'll tell you that much. Okay, Luke, here's an incredible Fight Week shirt from Yaya Rodriguez. You've got to have serious BDE to pull this off.

Yeah, so if you or I wore this, they would just arrest us for being a fucking idiot. He can get away with it. Dude, Ortega typically wears great stuff like this. Can we zoom in on this, Long Island Luke? I mean, do you think I can pull this off? This is like Jeff Wagenheim if he was on all the asses. Oh, yeah, if he just stopped caring anymore. I mean, he doesn't care that much as it is, but if he just stopped caring, Luke.

Yeah, but here's the thing. It's like Yaya is however old he is, like what, 20 or something? 29, I thing. It's like, how old are you? It's like, what, 20 or something? 29, I think. It's like, dude, in five years, you can't do that anymore. It's just a little moment in time. Do you think RJ would get this on the site? A shirt like this? Yes.

If we badgered him enough. Thank you, RJ. Big fan of yours. All right. Luke, let's move on to some boxing. Golden Boy had the card in Los Angeles. Luke, look at the crazy eyes on Oscar. What do you think they're talking about? I don't even want to say. I don't want to get in trouble. All I know is I one day want to have a conversation with you that produces that look, Luke, okay?

What would I have to say? That the watermelon vape truck is outside? Dude, if you had a watermelon vape that just had Delta-8 juice in it, I might be the happiest man on earth. Filled with BVL liquids. Yes, that had been stored in that other lady's underwear. Yeah. Okay, that got really gross right there.

All right, let's keep it going. Luke. Look at the cameraman. He's like, Jesus. You know Grandma Habib, right? The UFC's biggest fan. She's now crossing over into the box, Luke. God bless her.

She showed up for the Fight Week events, and look at Ra-Guy giving her love. That tattoo on his forearm looks excellent, by the way. Who is it? She just materialized out of nowhere. The UFC has embraced her. She appeared in MK Doc No. 6 at the World MMA Awards. Did you notice that? I think I talked to her briefly.

Jake interviewed her. She's got a little moment. I think I talked to her briefly. Jake interviewed her. She's got a little moment. I think I talked to her very briefly. I didn't recognize her. I guess the fans did. She seems like a sweet lady. I don't know what her bit is, but she loves combat sports. Luke, Ryguy comes out at the... People hate when I

call him Ryguy, by the way. Do you hate that? King Ry came out at the old Staples, the crypto.com. To California love. Did you like this entrance? It had a little extra pizzazz, I thought. I skipped the entrance. I went right to the fight. Okay.

Thank you. Thank you. He showed his sorrow. So I love that song. I think everyone does. You know who hates that song? My wife can't stand that song. And she goes, it's a terrible song.

And I'm like, you're not the only person who thinks that. Like, everybody else loves that song. Watch when Daddy Yankee one day covers it. She'll be like, I love this song! She doesn't like Daddy Yankee either. I was surprised that she didn't like it. Have you ever met someone who didn't like California Love? Like, angrily didn't like it?

She's the only one. Yeah, I would say that's un-American, Luke. I've told her that. Sneaky body shot, as we mentioned here, from Ryan Garcia. Let's get a close-up look at it. This was in the fourth round that put Fortuna down. It could have ended the fight. It looked to be on the money.

But look how he just kind of snuck that in, Luke. Faked like he was going to go high and then went low. I love the little nuances that he's breaking out with Joe Goosen. Seriously, the craft is improving, Luke. By the way, how about Fortuna

spitting out the mouthpiece? Oh, yeah. Veteran move. Total. I mean, I was like, you are such a dirtbag. But it worked. It worked.

He got a little more time. Look at just how he sneaks it in. Oh, yeah. Looking at his eyes the whole time, too. That is amazing. Love it. Love it. Beautiful shot.

Luke, a friend of this program, rate the swag on Showtime's Sean Porter, who appeared on the DAZN broadcast over the weekend. I mean, we couldn't pull it off, Luke, but it's all good. He definitely looks like Elliot Ness at happy hour. Saw some Bagger Vance tweets. You know, he definitely, look, he can pull it off because he commits to it, and he has, they're all self-tailored. What do they call that hat?

Like the pork pie hat? Is that what they call it? Could be, could be. Could be an old Charlie Mingus. Again, dude, I don't, here's the thing. I don't know what's cool, so to me this looks absurd. Yeah. But I'm clueless, so I have no way of weighing in on this.

Well, speaking of absurdities, I'm clueless to whether any of these lifting videos are legit or not or if they're cool. This is the liver king, Luke, underwater. He's so fucking stupid. Now, you and our producer, Matt Snyder, were on a text chain. This is just the dumbest shit. Does he have ab implants? Is that proven? Yes, he admitted it on the Full Sent podcast.

Oh, you can't admit that shit. You can't admit that. Yes, which ancestral tenant is getting cosmetic surgery to make your abs look better? See, this is like seeing the guy behind the curtain. This is like finding out that my parents. Oh, you mean you just now figured out that the guy on anabolics who has ab implants may or may not be an actual Instagram character and not a real person? My parents were Santa Claus. What?

For my family, at least, My parents were actually Santa Claus. What do you mean? I found out after the fact, like in fifth grade, way too late. Yeah, you found out, like, comically late. Yeah. You know, they, yeah, that's, yeah. Come on. I mean, this dude is just, he's just so fucking stupid.

I don't have any respect for him. All right, let's go to legitimate stuff. Here's top-ranked boxing from Temecula. Meet me in Temecula. Here's Floyd Cashflow Diaz, Luke,cula. Meet me in Temecula. Here's Floyd Cashflow Diaz, Luke, walking out in LA Rams gear. Is this cool or lame as shit, Luke, for a boxing match? You know, it's a little bit, well, I mean, it's fucking stupid, but again, the youngs, they're going to do what they do, bro. They're just going to do. I've kind of just like, to me,

I can't tell the difference between an island boy and what's cool anymore. It all is just jumbled together. Here's Cashflow himself, Floyd Diaz, in the ring, putting on a show. Luke scoring a spectacular knockdown en route to a six-round TKO. Oh, look at that clean right there. He can fight, Luke. He can fight. He's young as shit, too.

Yeah, that dude, that is just nice. And if you call yourself Cashflow, you've got to be hip. Look at the timing on that. The hair, too. Yeah, that dude, that is just nice. And if you call yourself cash flow, you've got to be hip. Look at the timing on that. The hair, too. The hair's a little wacky, right? You see the fitting? Yeah, the hair, I don't mind. The hair, it's crazy, but I like the verve. Okay, okay. Luke, here's the

final round of the 140-pound main event between Arnold Barbosa and Danilito Zorizia. This fight stunk until the final round. It ended up being a decision win for Arnold Barbosa and Danilito Zorizia. This fight stunk until the final round. It ended up being a decision win for Arnold Barbosa, who called out Teofimo at 140, and they're thinking could be his next opponent. But finally, we got a little bit of action in that main event,

which took place, Luke, in Temecula. Yes, meet me there. There you go. So, all right, that's all I got. Oh, also on this undercard, you know Southpaw heavyweight Richard Torres Jr.? He won the silver medal in the 2020 Olympics, losing to that guy we saw on Showbox recently, right? Yes, yes, yes. Here's him giving it to this guy, getting a first-round stoppage. Yeah, he was beating the shit out of this kid.

Yeah, so he got the thrills in the ring on Friday, stopping this poor chubby guy en route to the Uber, Luke, that drove him to the arena. But on Sunday, Luke, he's going skydiving. Fucking A. I want to do this so But on Sunday, Luke, he's going skydiving. Fucking A. I want to do this so bad. Yeah, we should do this together. And just scream like bitches the whole time. Dude, so I don't want to have a large man behind me unless it's like Jake with the camera.

I think you have to tandem jump for your first one. What if we jump together? Have you guys ever skydoved? What if we just put our lives in each other's hands and your dream of hugging me from behind without any interruption? Maybe I'll allow that. I wish I was more trained because I could have been that guy, but I think you actually have to – I think there are rules about this.

I told you I've done, like, fast roping, but I've never done anything like this. All right, Lou, our L of the week goes to this pizza chef. Let's watch his story play out in real time. He's just jizzing his pizza or something. Oh, boy. Come on, get a handle on that. I mean, what the fuck are we doing? Oh, God, what a waste of some – Oh, boy. Come on, get a handle on that. I mean, what the fuck are we doing? Oh, God, what a waste of some...

Oh, boy. Look, oh, God. Okay, this is just... I hope the house burned down and then the mouse ate everything. What a stupid piece of shit. First of all, turn the oven off, you fucking dork.

Okay, just so you know, I'm totally eating that if it falls in that situation. I'm totally picking that up off the floor. Okay, if I was sober, no. But if I was drunk and that's all I had, you bet your ass

I'm eating that. If you were Hasselhoff working the audio on your own live chat, you would totally eat that. Yeah, indeed. All right. You have a lot of comments

about my channel, which to this day still has significantly more subscribers than this channel. Then just ignore the hate. You know what I mean? Okay, I just want to point out,

you get real salty about it. The day I make a Reddit page about your channel is the day we break up. Have I done that? Probably. Have I done that? You're probably doing it after the show. Let's head out to the old baseball field. Luke, here's Packers running back A.J. Dillon running right through the Kenosha Kingfist

mascot. Can we zoom in, please? Dude, he just blows his fucking helmet right off. Good lord. Bah! Yeah. That's a long-distance phone call, please? Dude, he just blows his fucking helmet right off. Good Lord. Bah! Oh, yeah. That's a long-distance phone call, Doug. Yeah, dial him for murder. Look at this. Remember Terry Tate, office linebacker?

Damn. Staying with the baseball theme, check out this MLB fan risking it all for the foul ball. Oh. I hope you got a good fucking orthodontist, bitch. Yeah. Oh, you may need new glasses

after that, too. Damn. Looked like Derek Jeter diving into the Fenway Park that time. Yeah, Jeter, except he would have caught it. Don't dead wrong me,

Yankee fans. I don't care. Let's go to this Cubs fan, Luke. Look at him with the large letter typing. He was caught in mid. Handsome and so good. You are precious. I want to spank. He was caught in mid. Handsome and so good. You are precious.

I want to spank. This guy caught shooting his shot in real time here at the game. Do you have respect for him? Wait, wait, wait. Go back. Oh, fuck. What was the name? Hold it.

The name was Amy something? Boy, Amy's about to get it. Yeah. Amy Lester's about to get that work. Yeah, but call this guy Moe, right? By the way, this guy's got grayer hair than me. It's like, Jesus, old man here is 70 with balls down to his knees. Hey, you know who has large texts like that?

They're fine. Raul Marquez. You want to call out our teammate right there? His, like, the whole phone is like one letter. Dude, you know, old men, here's what old men still do, and I know this because my dad comes over all the time now. They got the big-ass text. Oh, yeah.

They have a phone. Well, my dad just got an iPhone. My dad just dropped his flip phone, finally. Just got an iPhone. But the phone case is big enough where they can fucking put it on their belt in the front. And, dude, they don't. They have an audible ring on the phone. Full volume ring.

Full volume ring. And they will interrupt any situation. You could be at a funeral and they'd be like, oh, I gotta take this outside. Hello? No, I didn't pay my water bill yet. I'll pay it later. It's sad to retell the story because it was one of my best friends who died, but at his wake, there was a guy who showed up

and he took a call in line. He was second in line, second from the casket and he took a call and was like, yo, I'm out of wake. I gotta call you back. No, I can't hear you, I gotta call you back. And the whole crowd was just like, oh my god. He kind of looked like he may have been... Yeah, but the thing is, a person who

does that... No, he may have been a mafia member is what I'm saying. Yeah, well, also, a person who does that is probably also not long for this world. Yes. Like, they're so fucking stupid that they will win a Darwin Award in a year themselves. Errant practice swing time. Look at this kid trying to take a life, Luke. Let's see.

All right. Got a big old fat coach. Yep. He's got that mask on just in case of COVID, Luke. But you better watch out for that. Oh, God. Oh, boy. He popped right back up, though, Luke.

We're fine. Nothing to see here. He's probably bleeding underneath that COVID mask. I mean, just. I'm bleeding inside my chest. Wow. Damn. All right.

Luke, I know I said I would never show this guy again. Hold on. Hold on. Go back. Roll it one more time. Yo, watch the umpire who walks across the screen. Look at the tattoos on this fucking umpire. Yo.

My man is working the Little League because after getting out of prison, he ain't got shit else to do. Look at that. The dads that would be like the assistant coach and they'd be like the third base coach in my Little League because after getting out of prison, he ain't got shit else to do. Look at that. The dads that would be like the assistant coach and they'd be like the third base coach in my Little League, 100% of the time smoking cigarettes. The entire, like not even a thaw. So let me ask you a question as a non-tattoo guy. Who would you fear more? A guy who's got tats like this or a guy who's got like, let's say a Japanese full sleeve? In the 90s, anybody with a tattoo under your elbow

or above your neck, that means that they've done jail time and they've killed a man. Yeah. But nowadays, I'd probably go with a full Japanese guy.

See, I'd be the opposite. If you've got the full sleeve, that means you're actually, first of all, it's expensive. It's expensive, hard to get, you know,

takes time, real commitment. It's the ones that have like the Harley Davidson fucking pieces all the way up. I just don't mess with people. That's my motto. By the way, I know this one's all in pieces, too, but I'm going to fill it all in eventually,

and then this one's going to be a full sleeve. That's what you say. I know I wouldn't show it. I'm getting another one in September. I know I said I would never show this guy in the show again, but I'm only making an exception because he's got a message for you since we're just coming off of late June here, Luke. Let's watch this.

I hate this piece of shit. How has he not died yet? Zoom in. Please, you've got to see this. It's great, Luke. Let's watch this. I hate this piece of shit. How has he not died yet? Zoom in. Please, you gotta see this. It's great, Luke. This one's for you, LT. Dude, fuck this guy. I'm sure he lives alone, Luke. I mean, it's gotta be, right?

Hey, Luke, look at that! Happy Father's Day from Tookie and this guy, Luke. I genuinely hope that he gets hit by a bus after this. All right, wheel kick of the week, Luke. Let's go to the mosh pit. This could be your band here. Cannibal Crunch, let's watch this. Dude, look at this fat kid.

Oh, shit. Blow that up. Blow that up. Wow. Is that Terry Adam in the crowd? Look at this. Yo, my man's just shot putting in there. Bah.

Take that, bitch. Hold that. Is that a concert in a record store, Luke? Dude, this is why I can't stand mosh pit motherfuckers. Yeah, they're the worst. They're the worst. They're almost as bad as frat boys, Luke. I go to concerts where people mosh and shit. I've done a little bit of it in my time.

It's lame as shit. But it's lame as shit. But it's lame as shit. It's so lame. Luke, the USPS out here making demands. I think this is not just an instruction on how to tailor to your life, but really even deeper. Luke, let's zoom in on here. Please trim your bush so I can better service your body. There's a lot of life lessons in there, Luke, right?

Let me tell you something. If they put that in there, I'd laugh. First of all, I'd laugh. And then I'd call their fucking super house. You'd call their HR department. There you go. Alright. Hey, Luke, you know that old saying there's no such thing as a free lunch? I think that applies here, too. To this picnic.

My man, Josh. Can we get Uncle Jerry off the bike, please? Let's invite the asshole who just ruined everything. All right, Luke, check out the head this old guy gives to save a young fan. You gotta love it here. Can we zoom in? Oh!

Look at Lex Luthor out there saving lives, Luke! You ever have to give head to save a life? Could he be redder from all the beer he drank before getting in there? He's fired up with adrenaline. Look at this. This guy's a hero. So Europe is a little bit like South America in that they don't serve beer at the games. So what everyone does is before and after they get liquored up like motherfuckers.

Yeah. Look at this guy. Our new camera guy is like, yeah, I know that. How many vodka fucking tonics is this guy deep in? Oh, yeah. You ever give head to save a life, Luke? You know, I like this show, but if you got fired, I wouldn't cry. Okay, all right.

Luke, no elder abuse. Unfortunately, that video didn't materialize. We'll have to save that for next week. But, Luke, nature giveth and taketh away in equal measures. Check out the gorilla in this first one, Luke. Not that guy. That's not a gorilla. That's an orangutan.

Sorry, Luke. I'm not up on my priorities. Do you know what orangutan means? It means person of the forest. Okay. Yo, their grip strength. Don't mess with them. Do not mess with them.

Yeah, their motherfucking grip strength. They look like they're fat, lazy pieces of shit. Yep. Their grip strength is like nine or ten dudes. And like Mike Bone, they're a little handsy. Their feet are handsy. Look at that shit. They've got opposable thumbs like a motherfucker.

Yeah, you're going to need the zookeeper to help you out, maybe a tranquilizer. Let's move on to this guy going right past the sign from the coach and sliding directly into second base, Luke. Well, that's a little bit creepy. I don't know if we can show this legally. I figured it's better to ask for forgiveness. He is a primate at the end of the day. This is me and my wife, basically.

Okay, Luke, it's time to play Rate That Tat. Let's zoom in on Heat Guard Tyler Hero, Luke. Is this tat a hero or a zero? It's a zero. Oh, wow. It's no work, no check. Here's one thing to pay attention to from now on. Pay attention to how often aspirational

with clouds or some kind of eyes, in this particular case, you see it, or with lettering that way that athletes have. They'll often have clouds and then their friends' names or the clouds and then some kind of no pressure, no diamonds. This is some RG3 goofball

shit. Dude, I think it looks pretty cool with that red. It almost looks like blood. It's paid for. Well, it's... Because it's paid for. Yeah, it's like that part of it is sort of well applied, but that is really bad. But that works for us too, Luke. We don't work our asses off on here. We don't get paid.

That's true for every motherfucker on planet Earth, dude. That's true. So you're like, I don't need that on my chest. It's, you know, I don't need tattoo on titty. That's already a default in my life. See, here's the question you always have to ask yourself when you get a chess piece like this. And he's got 2000, which I'm sure is the year he was born because everyone's doing that now. Is do you color the nips?

See, some people color the nips. Imagine if you colored your nips bright white. That's a little Gore the God Butcher type nonsense. Okay, let's move on to the next tat that we can have Luke, the Simon Cowell of tattoos, right? Let's zoom in. Luke, this is Live Love Loco. Combining many of your favorite things in one, Luke. So he's got a heart around a taco

bell and four loco tattoos. And it's an ass tat. This is everything you love, Luke, in one. Alright? Boy, this guy. Can you imagine the hemorrhoids that a guy like this has had time over time? And he's got a Rambo tattoo on his hamstring or something? Not that well done.

Yeah, I mean, everything about this tattoo is terrible. First of all, look at the lettering on the four. See it? You're actually breaking down the technical part. It's a freaking four local can. I've seen ironic tattoos that were still really well done. My man here was just drunk one time and was like, you know what, let's go to the drive-thru and then just get a fucking tattoo about it. Behind the dumpster at Taco Bell, let's get a tattoo, do some whippets.

That's really what happened here. We've got one more tat to rate, Luke. Speaking of face irony, let's zoom in. This is the guy that goes by, I think, Codeine Face. Yeah. face yeah well I hope you have a job at all is really what I was that could be a prison wall this is what I'm getting I mean do look at the blow go back blow it up one more time just just just humor me for a second yeah the bottle cap all fucked up bottle shape all fucked up lettering or it says eight fluid ounces all fucked up lettering but we need was prominent as it was a promethazine promethazone

whatever it's called with codeine and cough syrup all fucked up like you didn't even get it well applied look at the labeling how it dips underneath right on top of the MEF I think this guy's got a lot of problems that are heavier than the technique of this tattoo all right but I'm just saying like if you're gonna get that shit on your face like at least pay someone who's good at it to do it. Yeah. Luke, another day, another ridiculous John Daly outfit showing up on Have You Seen This Shit.

I figured you'd enjoy this, Luke. I do love John Daly. Look at this fucking American hero. He's like a drunk Santa Claus full-time, right? Drunk. I mean, he's got every liver disease. What are those pants? Can you imagine how much he struggles to take a dump every day?

It's so dry. He hasn't had fiber since 1978. He's just nothing but tar and fucking. All right, because. And you know what I love about him? It's like, yo, hey, John, you want to hang out? No. It's like, I got vapes.

All right, I'll hang out. His commitment to abusing substances has to be on the level of Tiger's commitment to abusing women. Do you think they've brought out over this? I don't really want to comment at all. Okay. All right. Somebody had to be the adult in the room. Can we move on to the next slide?

Here we go. Let's watch people get gored. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. We're playing this stupid game right now. Have you seen this shit? And here's your prize, Luke. A lady getting gored. I mean, what do you want from this bull? These dumb motherfuckers. And this bull is like

how old? Like a year or two? Just fucking these honkies up. She did make it back to the safe zone, Luke. Bah! Take that L. Let's go over to a sport that you were world-ranked, I believe. That's a teenager. Squash? I wasn't world-ranked. You were good, though. I was okay. You were competitive. Itash? I wasn't world-ranked. You were good, though.

I was okay. You were competitive. It was racquetball. It wasn't squash. Oh, boy. We'll show you the door, sir. Apparently, you found it. Okay, there you go.

No, no. That's not squash. That's pickleball. I mean, it's all the same. No, it's definitely not. Squash is a tough-ass sport. What game were you ranked in? Racquetball.

And you were regionally good for your age? For my weight class, for about a two- or three-month period, I was number one in my weight class. It's by weight? Sorry, what am I saying? Weight class. Age, age, age. Youth sports. Pennington James apparently loves pickleball, according to Maniche. Yeah, great.

I don't give a fuck about his life. One more for you on the stupid game, stupid prize. This is our final clip of the week, Luke. Watch this play out. So there's a guy on the sidewalk. He figured, you know what, let me mess with some cars today. Okay, where is the 773 area code? Let's see. Okay, Luke, here you go.

He threw a rock. Connection. Connects with the white car. This is Chicago. Okay. Oh, shit. Oh, motherfucker, what? Oh, god. Tag, you, what? Oh, God. Tag, you're it. Now, he did get up and walk away, which means this will not be on Faces of Death 13 on VHS,

but it will be on Have You Seen This Shit. Bro, they're worried about guns in Chicago. Fuck that. They're handing out receipts here, you know what I mean? Jesus Christ, my man is just like, yo, not today. Dude, I hate thinking back when we were like 10. This is what we did. We'd try to throw rocks at a car and then run as fast as you can.

If the cars came at you, you ran. This motherfucker was just like, I dare you. He's like, okay, I'll meet you halfway. All right, Luke, that's the shit of the week. I don't get the feeling you enjoyed it. I love this. This is one of my favorite segments. And look it, exactly 1 o'clock, so we finished on time.

Perfect job. That is it for us today. I want to thank everyone for watching. We have many more things to record today, so we're going to get out of here pretty quickly. But I appreciate you guys tuning in. If you want to reach the show, morningcombat at gmail.com. Wednesday's fan subs, Friday's dead wrong, and if you just

want to reach the producers for whatever reason, that's the place to do it. Showtime.com, 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can go fuck yourself. And then morningcombat.store. Do you want it, you can keep it. If not, you can go fuck yourself. And then morningcombat.store. Do you want to shout out any of our fans, like Appy over in France? David Appleton? Do we call him Appy now? He calls himself that in that song that

he created. He calls himself Appy? Where he put a picture of... Appy is the person who shows up at Applebee's to get an appetizer. Do you remember that video where he put a picture of Ghislaine Maskell's guy, Epstein, over his face? Then he put a picture of Cosby over his face. We should move on. We should move on from that. That seems like a very

regrettable choice that we all made. Let's just end it. Let's just end it right now. But we appreciate you guys tuning in. We have a ton of stuff we're going to be recording for today that will be released in the next couple of weeks. So stay tuned for that. Anything else? No. I've got to whiz really bad. I've got to piss too. Alright, for Brian Campbell, for Mocha,

for CBS Sports, for Showtime, I'm Luke Thomas. We'll see you folks on Wednesday, and until then, may all your gains be loyal.