MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC on ABC 3 | State of Light Heavyweight Division | Quick Hitters | Ep 322
Episode Date: July 13, 2022On Episode 322 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian look ahead to UFC on ABC 3. What fights should we be looking forward to? Will the winner of Ortega-Rodriguez get a title shot? Next up the guys discuss ...some chatter in the light heavyweight division. Kamaru Usman saying that after Leon Edwards he wants to go up to 205. Jiri Prochazka named who he wants to fight next and Jan Blachowicz isn't happy. Is this the right move? The boys close out the show with Quick Hitters, HYSTS and Fan Submissions. (17:20) - UFC on ABC 3 (52:40) - State of Light Heavyweight Division (62:20) - Quick Hitters Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat  Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat   For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store  Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm Luke Thomas.
I'm Brian Campbell.
This is Morning Combat.
Lucky number 13.
It's the 13th of July, 2022 and it is time for morning combat hello everyone i am
merely one half of your hosting duo i join you from the capital of the status unitos right here
in washington dc joined by boy look at that sullen face zero to my left jesus christ he's back he was
missing on monday but he's back for wednesday's show he's my buddy he's your buddy
he's the world's buddy he's also the king of connecticut it's brian campbell what's up dude
yeah luke i'm back i'm also back with a bang and while i certainly certainly like to extend a high
five to chuck mittenhall you know let him guys like him abron they can fill in luke they can do their best to make mk
with no bc feel like feel like a house but it surely didn't feel like a home on monday luke
you know what i mean home sweet home and i'm talking about holly of course but uh uh i'm back
baby and uh trust me yeah i'm back all right now have to say, even though I'm the one who just got over COVID,
you sound like you have also contracted or contacted, I should say,
or whatever the fucking word is.
I don't even know anymore.
All of the communicable diseases known to man.
How are you feeling, dude?
You sound a little bit off.
I feel bad.
I'm on day 10 of this post-Vegas hangover.
I continue to test negative
for um for your thing there but uh but i do feel like shit i certainly look like it luke but i
think i'm coming out of the dark right now you know what i'm saying well glad to have you happy
that you're here we do have a lot to get to today by the way because bc is here we do the bc special
so at the end of the show we'll do have you seen this shit i look forward to that i'm sure he's got
a ton of stuff for us but i got great shit it's one thing i got luke i got so
much shit right i know i know you do let's see we have to get to the big fights this weekend ufc on
abc3 is back this weekend we'll talk about that we'll react to nate diaz doing a long interview
with ariel hawani we'll talk about some of that jake paul presser we'll talk about yuri prohachka
saying he wants glover and not Jan next.
A lot of stuff to get to.
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Now, BC, I heard your conversation with RJ Dunkle Donut just before the show.
Wait, did you catch that shot he took at me?
I mean, that motherfucker, he like,
I think he's still sore over that Larry Nassar joke.
I think he is, but keep going.
Yeah, because what he said was,
I can either make merch that sells
or make merch that pleases BC, but not both.
With that in mind, BC,
we do have merch that pleases you.
Why don't you tell the crowd what it is?
Yeah, I rock hard with emotion over this, Luke.
I do have a phone or indeed.
You know what we do
on MK, right? We do great stuff. One of
those is pregame preview. You know the
catchphrase, and it really applies to our brand in
general, Luke. You know what MK's all about?
Real talk.
Like men do. Exactly.
Now we got that on a shirt. Finally.
Go to morningcombat.store right now.
Here's where RJ did well,
by the way, okay? The design, yes, but the colors.
We got orange.
I think there's a pink in there.
You know BC likes different slices of the rainbow, Luke, when it comes to colors, right?
You know what I mean?
I drive an orange car.
I got an orange wall.
This is almost the color of your car.
It's a little bit duller.
Your car has more of an orange pop to it, but it's pretty similar.
So there's a good shit color on the
screen there too probably apropos but uh it's our new merch it's here you want to walk around
and have people look at you and go oh shit that guy's masculine as fuck you see what he listens
to you see what he's identifying with you see what he's all about i'm sure his t-levels plummeting
fast but that guy's pretty cool that can be be yours, by the way, for just probably, you know,
probably overpriced as shit, Luke.
But when you win awards on this level, you could do whatever the fuck you want.
Luke, side conversation, still about clothes, though.
We launched one of our best pieces of content ever, Room Service Diaries 2.0.
Michael Chiesa, you can listen to it, watch it right now on youtube.com slash morningcombat.
You know I wore the very aggressive, all the smoke, full body sweatsuit with the Bob Marley high tee dad hat.
Is that more offensive to you, that or Ariel's double breastasted suit at the showtime press conference yesterday i mean
this is a funny question so this is a funny question so yesterday ariel did the presser for
the paul rockman junior fight which will be the msg uh august 6th and he had a double-breasted
like what would you call it like a carolina blue blazer something like that north carolina blue
and then he had like a blue tie with it i didn't
mind it and i'll also say this but this is why i have a bit of a different take the staff basically
hates bc's bob marley ad that he got in the most dad way possible and when i first saw it i hated
it but i gotta tell you i don't mind that either so i'm in this camp where i swear to god i don't
love or hate either of them but they don't really offend me.
I got to say, though, the staff wants to cut your head off
and then throw that hat in the garbage.
Both fashion plays are aggressive.
They're meant to probably stir up conversations and emotions.
But don't forget that Bob Marley hat, Luke,
it's very Randy Couture-esque, too.
So I think you can sense the manliness coming through there.
You know, nice double breaths from, you know,
nice moves from Ariel there.
I appreciate the effort there, but hey,
do you think Ariel would have the ball bag to sit on our RSD couch like
Chiesa did and get grilled?
Okay.
Well, I don't think he would drink the IPAs that Chiesa was drinking or,
you know, many of the gummies that we all shared prior to that occasion.
But he might sit down with us, yes.
What do you think about Chiesa calling your vape stick a douche flute?
Top comment right there.
Yeah, I mean, he called that on Twitter, and I got, you know,
remember that Adrian Broner thing that goes around?
I was like, I'm getting cooked.
Yeah, I mean, I got absolutely destroyed.
It's a very funny joke.
I mean, when you get roasted like that and the joke's that good all you all you can do is just let the waves
of l crash over you and absolutely i have been i have been doing that but it's good to have you
back i'm glad to see you thank you and to close you can get all this merch and more at morning
combat.store thank you and ariel by the way if that's if you think that's an invite it is why
don't you come on down why don don't you step to this camera?
To this side of the stage, alright?
Are you doing like a new metal lyrics kind of thing?
No, no, no.
Step to this, bro!
Yeah.
Yo, we should...
You and I should become Armenian as fuck
and go to like a System of a Down concert
with like Vanis Martirosian.
Dude, I'd be into that.
Why would we have to go with Vanis martirosian i would rather really just
double down on the uh on the armenia luke okay just really just you know i mean we could get
manuk akapar as well from uh the la times and espn there you know that guy right yeah we certainly
could uh by the way copian sorry a copianopian. Yeah, do you know my mother's maiden name? Have I ever told you that?
Oh, please let it be Head Movement.
Head Movemienton?
Or however it would be?
Yes, yes, there you go.
It's Jirjian.
J-I-E-R-J-I-A-N.
That was my mother's maiden name.
So, very Armenian.
All those Armenian names, Y-A-N's or I-A-N's is how they all kind of end.
Not in totality, but the vast majority. By the way, Armenians are badass, man.
They go after it.
In terms of their fighter personality, they go after it, Luke.
Yeah, and I've always told you this.
You should appreciate it.
I think it was the first Christian nation.
So keep that in mind as well.
I'm not Christian, but you are.
You know I'm a big fan of that as well, Luke.
So wow, what a great time to be back on this show right now.
I feel the love right now.
It certainly is.
All right.
Also want to remind folks, if you want to get Showtime,
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If you like it, keep it. If not, you can go
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bang your neighbor or something else. Whatever
makes you happy.
By the way, did you... Somebody commented
on your video with, I think with Jake Paul.
Another great interview they can check out, more Jake Paul to come,
but I think somebody was like, Mike Bone has venereal disease.
It's like, come on, can you let that guy's libido take a rest for a day?
We don't have to, you know.
He called me out to my face.
He's like, BC, keep that same energy when you talk shit about me.
But, you know, I did.
And you certainly did, yes.
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Yeah, I mean, you weren't putting your health first in an easy step.
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This magical green powder, putting it in water, putting it in whatever you want.
Luke, I put it in a seltzer the other day.
I wouldn't recommend that.
Put it in water, stir it up, and here's the deal.
It doesn't taste medicinal.
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It tastes clean luke at the end of the day i gotta start doing anything to cut corners and feel clean because the opposite
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I'm AG1, brother.
I might even piss green right now, Luke, just to show you that.
Well, that would be a different thing that would be going on inside that wretched body of yours.
But you can take it on livestream, Dave.
I do have my packets in BC.
It's lifestyle-friendly.
Whether you eat keto, paleo, vegan, dairy-free, gluten-free,
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and it's a better deal better better setup than that investment in that cold brew habit you got Luke.
I mean, I can't stress that enough.
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Yeah. Don't just ask me, by the way, ask leading health experts like Tim Ferris,
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Hey, BC, define verbatim for me.
Define art, really, is where I'm going to counter that to AG1, right?
Okay, you know what I mean?
Let's make this beautiful.
Let's start the show.
Glad you're here.
Let's kick things off with the big fights this weekend.
Man, I got to tell you, I am so excited about UFC Long Island,
aka UFC on ABC3.
A lot to get to on this card.
Let's start with the main event, and let's start in one different direction.
Now, of course, if you've been living under a rock,
the main event will be Brian Ortega taking on Yair Rodriguez. This, of course, will be a featherweight contest. BC, Yair told
Ariel Helwani this week that with a win, the UFC has told him he's in line for a title shot. Now,
we all know that they could change their mind last minute, but you mentioned RSD at the beginning of
the show. We actually had Josh Emmett on the show and he thought he
should have been next in line for a title shot with the winner of UFC 276 is co-main event.
What do you make of the UFC telling Yair he would be slotted in next if he got it?
I say that they love excitement, action, and they love Luke, that they can see somebody,
a potential, you know, Mexican background, but such a fan
friendly style, who has really taken leaps and
seemingly put it all together, which was evidenced
by that loss against Max Holloway over five action-packed
rounds, which kind of comes out as almost a win because
of how Yair showed up that night. Is it unfair to Emmett
at this point? You can certainly make that argument, and it's certainly
already crowded as it is atop the division right now
in the title picture,
but it would be hard to argue with Yair short of a win in which he,
you know, didn't deserve it or look bad.
But if he goes out there and beats Brian Ortega,
given his reputation,
given how I think Yair's record is better than people even realize,
and always had, like, ups and downs throughout that initial rise,
and it took maybe longer than we thought
for him to like fully be in this position
to see his game come full bloom
and us to find out how great he can be
on the title level.
But at the same time, he's here.
And Luke, if he comes out of here
with a win over Ortega,
which is not easy and still looks great
on a resume.
Yeah, I mean, I love Emmitt.
I love his story.
I can certainly make an emotional and sort of legitimate case for him. Still looks great on a resume. Yeah, I mean, I love Emmitt. I love his story.
I can certainly make an emotional and sort of legitimate case for him.
But this just adds to the stakes for Saturday of what is already going to be a great fight.
You've got the ABC element.
You've got the afternoon element. The main event is probably going to come on around dinnertime on the East Coast.
And you've got the opportunity that this fight is without question going to be dramatic for as long as it lasts, without question.
And now we can see the next title challenger come out of here.
Yeah.
My question to you is, did I unknowingly curse Josh Emmett on Room Service Diaries?
You ready for this, Luke?
Do you remember what I said to him?
Do you remember what I said to him at the end of the episode?
I said, here's how you're going to know whether you're going to get the next title shot and whether the UFC is on the Josh Emmett
train. Now this is, you know, this is the eighth row of Delta BC, you know, stumbled off the plane
saying this to Josh Emmett. But I said, if you get those front row seats tomorrow at the fight
at UFC 276, and they put that camera on you and it showed, you know, it, you know, I mean, even
Kayla Harrison got that treatment where it looked like she was going to sign the free agent offer before the Amanda loss.
Same night, but you get what I'm saying.
And then, Luke, did you hear what happened?
Not only did he not get that front row seating, he got a ticket like way back.
And, you know, him and his manager were sort of saying like, what the heck's going on in terms of our treatment?
And now we find out they told you, Ayer, you're getting the next title shot.
It proved true, Luke,
and I don't want to be that kind of Nostradamus.
I just, I feel terrible for Josh Emmett
because I do think his argument for the case is better.
I know folks are like, oh, Yair's fought better guys.
I don't think Yair's wins in totality
are better than Josh's.
I don't, I really don't.
And I don't think you can really make that argument that his five bestality are better than Josh's. I don't. I really don't. And I don't think you can really make that argument
that his five best wins are better
than Josh Emmett's five best wins.
I know folks have tried to do that.
I saw some folks arguing with Aaron Bronstetter.
He was shutting them down left and right.
It's not like Yair's resume is garbage
or something like that.
It's very, very good.
And it's not like Josh's case is way better.
I don't think it's that either.
But I do think he is much more deserving.
But we keep circling back to this. And I hate it for the fighters. It drives me nuts. I've seen it
from generation after generation of all these guys coming through. It is simply a reality.
If you have any designs on fighting for a UFC title, yes, you can do it the lunch pail way and
you can eventually make it. I've seen that John Fitch took a long time to get up to a fight with
GSP, but he got it. He got wrecked in that fight, but you know, that path,
that, that style of doing things, it will work. On the other hand, it's going to be significantly
slower to get up there. It's going to be significantly harder to get up there. And if
you don't make the most of it in that opportunity, you'll never see that up that, that situation
again, by contrast, you can be a
much less accomplished fighter, but if the fans like you, if you are important for a particular
market, in this case, Yair is both certainly, you know, he has American fans to be very clear,
but obviously he'd be important for any kind of burgeoning Mexican market as well. You're just
going to be favored and you can like these facts or you can hate these facts. And I hate asking
fighters to do the whole rigmarole of, you know,
say crazy things to get attention.
I don't like it.
I don't even like being a part of that machine.
But the reality is what the reality is.
Yair Rodriguez does have a very good resume.
Let's be 100% clear about that.
But the real difference about why he's getting it,
and I guarantee you the matchmakers would say it,
is one, not that Josh Emmett doesn't have an exciting style but Yair has
a crazy exciting style. I think that's
pretty fair to say.
And more to the point, the fans
like him a lot more and he's much more important
in a very
burgeoning and relevant market
outside the US. You're going to lose that marketing battle
at the end of the day. Just what it is. You're not going to win.
He can't win and that's a
hard pill to swallow
because if you suffered,
I mean, go back and listen to what he told us
in that room service diaries.
I know you remember about all of his injuries
with his face and his knees.
And I'm, who knows?
Some gave all on that one.
All gave some, Luke,
but he poured it all out a couple times, man.
And 37.
So like, he's not a spring chicken
by any stretch of the imagination.
That's a tough
tough pill to swallow but the but the currents of what drive this business they're not going to be
changed by one fighter's journey to do it the right way so to speak it's just it's not reality
and so while i do believe that josh emmett is the more rightful deserving guy when i heard that the
ufc told you here he was going to get it could not have
been less surprised could not have been less surprised at all I'm sure you're not surprised
either no no and even if you're the UFC while you're leaning heavily on the marketing potential
for sure and the style although obviously Emmett fights in just as tough you know not as spectacular
but just as hard nose where he makes great fights um it's also going to be that you're not ever
really sure how long Yair can hold this together.
So if you're the UFC and you have a chance to give him his chance,
you're going to take that because Yair with injuries or, you know,
a couple of losses along the way, he always seems to be kind of teetering.
But that performance against Max showed us that when he's dialed in on this level,
good Lord, this is what he can do.
So you understand that.
Luke, while this doesn't
play into the UFC's decision on who gets next, I do see a lot of negative criticism against Emmitt's
chances online, even though I tend, like you, end of the day, even if I'm leaning for emotional
reasons at times, God, Emmitt's earned it. You know, he gave all to get here, like I mentioned.
So I'm going to back him getting the next shot if asked you know for whatever that's worth but fans don't believe or not all of them believe that he beat Cater in
fact some people still think you know the Burgos fight was close enough to argue do you think that
factors in a lot to like not everybody coming on board and embracing Josh Emmett in his case and
his cause up to this point the Cater fight certainly the result is debatable I wouldn't
challenge that the burgos
fight is not challengeable that's an emmett win pretty cleanly in my book i don't know why anyone
would go to the mat for that i don't i don't think that makes a lot of sense right well close fight
close competitive fight you know what i mean oh no no i mean don't get me wrong but wasn't like
burgos got completely smashed or something like that but it's not the cater fight you can definitely
look i thought cater won that one to be to be candid but i understand why emmet wanted as well and so you
know you disagree with the judges and that's just kind of how it goes close fight could have gone
either way something like that but like you know this whole argument about like who would do better
against volkanovsky dude if you think listen who the hell knows none of us can predict the future
and certainly emmet is a heavy heavy puncher and Yair is a dynamic striker but if you're gonna predict or bet that either of those guys would
beat Volkanovski I'm like what is it gonna take for some of y'all to realize there probably isn't
a featherweight on earth who's gonna give Volkanovski a hard time right I mean Brian Ortega
got kind of close with some of those submission attempts or whatever but you know Volkanovski
went right back into them to prove a point on On his best day, there isn't a featherweight on earth
who's going to hold a candle to him. It's not really about that at all. It's about which guy
is more deserving. And here's the other part too, BC. And media too. It's not just fans. Media too.
There's a lot of times a guy could be well-lik liked and and very popular and that will tend to buoy
people's perceptions of how well they could do against x or y challenge right emmett doesn't
get the benefit of having a ton of fans buoy his status as somebody capable of doing something
great and it's very i say this all the time like go back to patty pimbley patty pimbley it's not a
bad fighter by any stretch of the imagination but but he is, despite having a lot of experience,
I still think somewhat green
and is developing on a different timeline than a lot of other guys.
People are letting the popularity of what he is
drive to an extent where they think the matchmaking should be,
which does not match up with where he actually is.
It's a clear case of the fan fervor booing somebody to a place that he
wouldn't necessarily go.
I think you're getting a different,
similar version of that with your Rodriguez.
Yeah.
Strong,
aggressive use of buoy there,
but I do think your points match up quick devil's advocate,
sort of fire back at you.
I don't want to continue to pave the path of bad luck here for Josh Emmett,
but is there a path for Brian Ortega to spectacularly submit Yair,
where you're just like, oh shit, Ortega leveled back up.
Do you run back the rematch of Ortega and Volkanovski
because the first fight, even though in the end more one-sided
than sometimes the emotions let us remember,
had spectacular dramatic moments
in it can Emmett lose out twice here Luke I mean okay so my thought is if Ortega win I mean either
of these guys should really not like should not be fighting for a title I don't in my view but
okay well you're asking what was likely to happen independent of whatever the hell I think
I think if Ortega goes in there and ekes out a win,
for sure they're probably going to make the Emmett fight.
They'll do Ortega versus Emmett.
But if Ortega goes in there and then just blows the doors off of Yair,
which I don't see likely, but certainly he is capable of greatness as well.
Let's be very clear about that.
If he goes in there and just blows the doors of him,
like bangs him around on the feet,
and then submits him with some incredible thing
without hardly taking a punch,
I think he does.
I think he probably does get a title shot.
The fans love Brian Ortega too.
He is also very talented.
He's 31.
He should be coming into his physical prime at this point.
You know, he's got a lot of reasons
why he could be favored over Emmitt.
Now, again, you might argue might argue BC and I'd be
curious to get your perspective on this I tend to think that if Ortega wins a title shot is possible
but my real thought is if Ortega wins it's a showdown with Emmett in either case what do you
make okay I was I was gonna bring that up because I didn't know if you had said that in error or you
meant that that's interesting I don't agree with it so you think if Ortega should beat Yair but not kick your tv screen
over to do it they'll make so here's the deal though then then that's sort of forcing Volkanovski
are you saying because of Volkanovski's injury that's essentially what you're saying then right
yeah I mean I guess what I'm saying is if Ortega doesn't take a big beating right where it's he's
you know relatively unscathed,
we know Volkanovsky's going to be out for probably three months or more.
Yeah, okay.
That's what I'm saying.
Kind of line up a little bit.
Factoring in the champ's injury, that does swing it back,
where that is a smart call.
And you know what?
It would answer, like, I wouldn't want Josh Emmett
to have to go through another frickin' test
where he potentially has to pour it out.
And Luke, Ortega makes you pour it out and luke ortega
makes you pour it out because he's he meets you right in the middle of that deep end of the pool
for better or worse and a lot of times i'm arguing uh which i think is part of how you how you're
going to handicap this saturday's main event is or is ortega too in love with the drama where he
can't be in a fight anymore against an elite guy without it getting ugly and him having to sort of find a path to rally back.
Like, can he be as, as in control of the fight as, as Ortega was against the Korean
zombie?
Is that more of a product of the difference in speed and footwork?
Kind of like some people say, don't get too high on Volkanovski's knockout of, of Chan
Sung Jung, because look at the difference. And I always said, no, look at the intention. And you saw that, by the way,
in the third Max fight. Now you saw, yes, this is a new Alexander Volkanovski. Do we need to
see a new Brian Ortega, Luke? Do we need to see a guy that goes back to trying to control the
terms of the fight more? Well, I still somewhat disagree with that analysis, but putting that
to the side. No, why don't you dig into that? why don't you tell me what's wrong with that Luke I do think you
saw a different game plan from Volkanovski and I do think he is getting faster and quicker with
some intention it's not like there's nothing to it but to me the big difference of what explains
the Chan Sung Jung fight is just the discrepancy in ability. Like, that was a much easier fight for Volkanovski to win
than it is to win against anyone else, including Max.
So let me interrupt you right there then and say,
okay, if that's true, then does that mean,
and this is harsh, but does that mean
that Brian Ortega looked that great against Korean Zombie
because it's a step down,
and he can't fight or win fights like that on the elite level so his only chance in the end is to do something dramatic is that a harsh but fair
take in the end i see i don't know how fair it is i think it's halfway fair it is fair to me to say
that korean zombie the result that ortega got is partly a function of the fact that yes he is a
step down from max and and and volkanovsky by a pretty significant degree so that, yes, he is a step down from Max and Volkanovski by a pretty significant degree.
So that part, yes, I would agree.
However, and this is the part to me that's really kind of interesting.
Everyone's kind of focusing on it, and we started the show with it,
with Yair getting promised a potential title shot.
But the reality is this.
Listen to this.
Ortega fought, let's see.
Let's go back all the way to the beginning of his UFC run.
He fought in the UFC twice in 2014,
but only, or twice in 2014 total,
but once in 2014 in the UFC.
Once in 2015, twice in 2016, twice in 2017,
twice in 2018.
Didn't fight at all in 2019.
Fought one time in 2020.
Didn't fight at all, or excuse me,
then fought again one time in 2021.
And this will be his first fight
in 2022 this guy has not had much experience which is why I think yes he was in tough fights in
Holloway and Volkanovski but showed I think flashes of brilliance there came back and beat the breaks
off of Chan Sung Jung I guess the point I'm trying to make is in the last four years he's only had
excuse me in the last yeah four years he's only had, excuse me, in the last, yeah, four years, he's only had four fights.
This will be his fifth fight in four years.
That's hardly any activity.
Age 31, he has talked about changing his methods
and doing things more professionally and blah, blah, blah.
And you could say, well, he got his ass kicked by Volkanovski
despite some of the brief moments of peril, which is true.
But again, Volkanovski is very, very good.
I mean, one of the best fighters on, if not the best fighter on earth.
And number two,
I'm expecting like a bit of a level up moment here
for Brian Ortega.
31 years old, coming into his prime.
He has fought the very best
that featherweight has to offer.
Gave him both a little bit of trouble here and there,
for sure.
I think you could argue.
Against Yair,
who is a very difficult dynamic striker,
but certainly open to other kinds of offense
from his opponents given
that sort of wide open style that he has dude this there's a real possibility that you mentioned
Ortega needs to level up more than just need to it might be inevitable and it might be in this
contest where you see something like that his maturation was kind of all at once and then
slowed down I think this version that we might get on Saturday
would be a real nice update to everything he's been building quietly.
I like the intention of what you're saying,
that not could he benefit from it.
He's going to have to get this win here, and it's probably right, Luke.
And yeah, let's not forget there was a two-year injury gap in there
off the first Max fight, but I still think the way he fought against both Max and Volkanovski, it was a little
bit reckless.
And he had to take on huge damage to kind of activate that craziness, that fighting
spirit in him to make some close moments there.
But it's like, so I still do ask myself luke um
is it defense does he you know does he have to make major defensive changes on this level
to to truly compete on even terms or is it just he likes to fight too much which one is it um yeah
i definitely feel like there needs to be okay Okay, obviously his jiu-jitsu is lights out, right?
Lights out.
So he doesn't need a lot of help there.
But blending it better would be one.
In terms of the wrestling.
His wrestling has been good,
but I think there's definitely a lot of improvement
that could be made.
And the other one is, I think,
and you saw this in the Korean zombie fight
because he drilled Korean zombie
and kind of forced it on him.
Slowing the fight down a
little bit he likes to mix it up he's got a he's got a real like brawling instinct in him which at
times has served i love it it's it's it's working against him now but you have to admit luke it's
fun as shit to watch like this guy's a savage man brian ortega is is appointment viewing i mean for
everybody brian ortega's appointment viewing this This fight on Saturday fucking rocks. I mean, there's nothing
wrong with it. But I think for Brian Ortega
to maximize everything
he's built, I think the wrestling needs
to be tightened up in terms of the blending, and I really
think slowing the fight down in terms of the striking,
taking his time with it, really getting
behind a jab, he does have a long reach.
He can do a lot with that. And then let the creativity
flow. Remember, what was the shot that
turned the fight with the Korean zombie?
It was the spinning back elbow.
That was the one that got him.
So you've got to stick with what you are good at,
with where your heart lies.
But it was all the other pieces about the in-and-out movement
and foot placement and where he was going.
That's what built everything.
That's why that performance was as strong as it was,
including the fact that Korean zombie is not on the level of Holloway
or Volkanovski.
But Yair might not be either.
So this is a very, very, very winnable fight,
if, you know, obviously quite difficult.
Luke, you almost did a dance with who brung you type of comparison there,
and I agree with it.
So in that regard, if Ortega takes another loss here,
given the domestication that's happened to him,
you know, they bought a house luke well
we look back almost like manny pacquiao we're like damn gambling womanizing manny pacquiao used to go
after it in fights will that be part of the uh post fight analysis for you and a potential loss
here i don't think so i think if he does have a loss to me it would be i know he took the two
years off after the max fight which by the way i wasn't two years was a bit long i think but he needed to take that was a brutal beating like he needed to take a lot of
time so so half of that was not such a big deal i think it would be a i just feel like listen some
guys get married and it you know and they slow down and it kind of wrecks their career or it
doesn't maximize things but for others it can actually provide a lot of focus it can provide
a lot of direction it can provide a lot of um frankly utility i i tend to think he might benefit
you know i know he's not married or anything but you know in in having a more centered home life
and a much more dedicated training protocol he was on jimmy smith's show yesterday
on sirius xm talking about how he would barely hit mitts for striking and you know working out
in his garage and just getting wins and he thought well, well, I can just do this and win.
And then he got a wake-up call.
He's had chaos.
Luke, he's had waves of chaos in his life,
and he's overcome a lot to get here.
But maybe you're right.
Maybe a happy at home.
It's interesting.
You know, I didn't think libido would be part of this breakdown
that we would do here, but he has a Scott Baio world record level one.
And if he wants to keep that in check now for happiness,
that's a good tradeoff, Luke.
We've all been there.
Luke, if you had to take
one quality from him,
you can have it for the rest
of your life.
Are you taking his hair,
his libido,
or his jujute skills?
You know,
I've accepted that I've turned
into a Dodge Omni,
so I'm going to let him
have his hair.
I take his jujutes.
It's pretty nice. It's pretty nice.
It's a pretty good ski guy.
Okay.
Now, what would you do with it?
Because I always said,
imagine if you could wake up tomorrow, Luke,
and you could dunk.
What would you do?
Would you pull up to a park in an inner city
and try to have your moment?
What would you do with those skills tomorrow?
Would you inquire to the ADCC, Luke?
Would I inquire to the Abu Dhabi Combat Club?
Why would I do that?
I thought that was where they do those big world-famous
jiu-jitsu tournaments, Luke, that people pull out like a sword.
You know what I mean?
True-time Abu Dhabi champion.
You know what I mean?
It's the most prestigious no-gi title you can get.
I don't know.
So that's where you're going, no-gi gi bro uh i probably would not go back to training because i think for most people it's
actually quite bad for them long term but that's just me all right okay bc then libido would have
been the better choice sorry luke just really trying to get you know i've kind of punted on
that too uh all right bc in your co-main event you've got michelle watterson back in action
against amanda lamos i'm looking at the rankings right now this matchup makes a little bit of All right, BC, in your co-main event, you've got Michelle Watterson back in action against Amanda Lamos.
I'm looking at the rankings right now.
This matchup makes a little bit of sense
because you've got Watterson sitting at 10,
Lamos sitting at 11.
So right next to each other, the rankings,
Lamos probably would hop into the top 10.
Michelle Watterson's been an interesting one
because remember, she was signed by WME years ago.
And I think that there was always this expectation
on when she, she was always too
small for the ufc she's much more of a natural atom weight right obviously fighting at straw
weight now so she's been fighting bigger people for just to get into the ufc but i think there
was an expectation they could turn her into a bigger star and it never quite panned out by
virtue of the fact again i want to be very clear about this that she is not a natural straw weight
she's a much smaller person although now that's not quite so true that hasn't
been true for some time but certainly started her career out that way let's put it that way
uh no and some of those and just real quick some of the times when she has lost against the elites
like joanna even you're like oh wow the strength difference between the two you know i mean or the
size difference it's always i want to be clear years ago she said like actually yeah and i'm
making it with the cut now 115 is probably a better fit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But I'll just say this.
I think historically her best work has been at 105.
Okay, neither here nor there.
Is this the last stand for Michelle Watterson as a sort of top 10 main card relevant fighter?
I thought the last loss.
I mean, look, she's lost three or four.
But as we mentioned, all against elite competition, the only win was a split decision against Angela Hill. So she needs
to win badly, Luke. But I thought the chances were over to see her back in another one here.
You say, okay, so what am I going to get from her at age 36? Well, look, if the training
pictures are any indication, like even you have to say, admit, like she got in alarmingly
next level shape for this
fight. So if this is her saying, all right, you know, lost three or four, always good competition.
I'm close. I can't get over that hump. I'm not going to go away unless I find out, you know,
make sure I'm using everything left in me. I respect that spirit, Luke. And I know people
think I get very heavily romanticized into that. People think BC is a casual who can't pick fights,
and when he tries to, he loves punchers,
and he loves old people making comebacks, right?
Yeah, you got Jesus Christ, you do.
That is so true.
I mean, you know, first of all, you can't pick what you love, Luke, okay?
It just picks you.
But second of all, fuck off, all right?
You know what I'm saying, Luke?
But yeah, in this case, it's an old person making a comeback.
And Luke, tell me if I'm crazy.
You can't win a fight with abs, but she's in sick shape right now.
Maybe we have to be careful in predicting her doom here.
Maybe there's something left here, Luke.
Yeah, I think predicting her...
I'm not predicting her doom.
I'm not suggesting a loss is inevitable.
What I am asking is, let's say a loss happens.
Now, where are we? That would mean
her last win would be over Angela Hill, which
was a controversial one. I thought Hill won that one as
well. I think that's right. She was a split
decision. Now, Amanda Lemos
coming into this contest sitting at 11.
She is coming with a loss to Jessica
Andrade, which was the standing arm triangle.
But prior to that, she beat Angela Hill,
Montserrat ruiz
livia hanato suza mizuki in a way miranda granger and it goes on and on and on from there not the
same level of opponents that michelle watterson has faced because michelle watterson in addition
to beating angela hill had faced carla esparza you want to enjoy chick and marina rodriguez now
those are tough ass fights but here's the key bc it's one thing to be, I was against the very, very top of the division and I couldn't win.
Okay, fair enough.
But now you're not.
Now you're fighting someone who is outside the top 10.
What happens then?
If you win, it tells us, hey, there's definitely still some life and some gas left in the tank.
But if you lose, it's like, well, now you're losing to a different kind of opponent.
Now you're losing to a good, certainly a respectable, but lower level quality of opponent.
That would signal something new in my mind.
Absolutely, it would.
And that brings, you know, a certain level of interesting theater to this fight.
You know, obviously with Lamos' run coming off a loss,
but had a nice run before that.
She got submitted by Jessica Andrade.
But she was looking to be potentially something.
I mean, look, she can make a leap here with a name like Michelle Watterson on there for sure.
But when somebody goes all into the level, I'm sort of, you know, saying that it looks like Watterson's doing.
You find out one of two things.
Look, no, like you leave no doubt if you go out there and get a great performance, you say, OK, if I if I really get 100 percent out of myself, man, I still got it, and you'd love to see anybody
find that in themselves in any craft
or art. But the other one is, if you still
don't got it, Luke, then a loss
tells you it is time to go, because then there's no
more excuses. You know what I mean? No stone
unturned. You put it all in.
So that adds a lot to the stakes
here, yet when you look at
where they're at in their careers and you apply that
to a betting standpoint, right now our friends at caesar sportsbook minus 340 lamos plus 270 watterson
that does seem kind of perfect luke i'm in on that line that's about right yeah i think that's
right dude it's a winnable fight in either direction and i think you know we had seen
obviously jessica andrage is like hercules she's so goddamn strong. Amanda Lamos had shown some decent physicality herself,
so Michelle Watterson is going to have to really, you know,
this is a bit of a put-up-or-shut-up kind of fight situation for her.
For Lamos, the expectations are not that high.
I mean, she's very good, but what I mean is, again,
we go back to the conversation about Yair versus Josh Hinn
and who the fans like.
The fans have long kind of favored Michelle Watterson,
and, you know, the promotion itself, obviously, too.
WME freaking signed her to to represent her uh but you would need a win like this to preserve any of that stock
any of that goodwill without it it's not going to be all that valuable long term right so yeah
there's even a long term at this point anyway uh if WME if WME reached out to you and I and said
we want to collectively represent you guys as well.
And then we were like, okay, that's cool.
But we were kind of got this only pipes idea here.
Do you think that becomes a deal breaker for them?
So in a world where WME wants to sign us and BC comes into the meeting,
like Ben Affleck in Good Will Hunting is like,
keep your ear to the grindstone.
Would that impact us?
Yeah, I'm going to bet it would.
I'm going to bet it would.
Okay, all right.
We don't need them, then.
Fuck them.
We don't need them.
BC, there's a bunch of good fights on this card.
We don't have time to get to all of them here right now.
The Leech is going to take on Muslim Salikov.
Matt Schnell is back against Sumidergi,
which should be a fun one.
Your boy, Shane Burgos, taking on Charles Jourdan.
Charlie, you have this one circled.
Dude, that's going to be the fight of the night, man.
I mean, except for the main event,
which could end up being the fight of the year or our lifetime, for all we know.
I mean, let's give those two the respect
and know that they can craft up something crazy special coming on.
But look, Burgos, Air Jourdan,
they both obviously can use a big win here
to stay in the larger conversation.
I love the action potential.
I look at the line here, Luke,
and it's as close as I thought it would be.
Plus 145, Jordan, minus 170, Shane Burgos.
Whose stock right now is more pointing upwards
entering this fight, in your opinion?
Jordan. now is more pointing upwards entering this fight, in your opinion? Jordan?
Jordan? Yeah. He has
really come all... I mean, Burgos...
This is a tough one.
Because I like Shane Burgos a lot. I think all the fans
do.
But Jordan has really,
I think, turned a corner of late more recently however however
burgos can steal all of that thunder with a big knockout or you know the dominant or you know
good looking win one way or the other on saturday and of course let's be very clear about this he
will have something of a hometown advantage as well being a new york uh tiger should i ask you
a quick can i ask you a quick question about Burgos?
He had those two losses in a row at the highest freaking level,
and they were wars.
Then he comes back against Billy Q and gets a hard-ass fault win.
Did he take too much punishment in that for your liking?
Did he still look like he's ready to have an outside shot at entering the title picture?
Where do you sort of look at what – I mean, he's only 31, but, but dude,
he's put it out there, man.
Yeah.
Didn't he have that crazy fight with Kyle Bokniak too, if memory serves,
I could be wrong about that, but he's had, he just,
he has a real in the pocket.
I'm going to hit you.
You're going to hit me.
And then the last guy standing is just going to be the last guy standing.
And he, that makes it sound like he's got no skills.
He's a weird combo. He can actually box his ass off, but he's just willing to
accommodate damage to have the kind of fight that he wants to fight at times. So it's not like he's
not a skilled guy. He's actually, that's the very surprising part. He's actually very skilled,
but we've all seen it, dude. He will absolutely bite down on the mouthpiece and just let it go.
And Charles Jordan, I don't think can win that. And Charles Jourdan, I don't think,
can win that kind of fight with him.
I don't think, there's not many guys who can.
But I think if Charles Jourdan uses
a more well-rounded sort of scientific approach,
he could get the win there.
Lastly, BC, two more fights on this card
that are interesting.
Bill Algeo taking on Herbert Burns, I really like.
Ricky Simone taking on Jack Shore.
Jack Shore, this guy out of Wales,
is a fucking hammer. But Ricky Simone is on Jack Shore. Jack Shore, this guy out of Wales, is a fucking hammer.
But Ricky Simone is also a hammer.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you're right.
But sure, dude, he's coming on.
And now that I've been apparently adopted into the Welsh society, Luke,
or at least one YouTube commenter said that.
So that's pretty much gospel to me.
But, yeah, my Welsh brethren here, Luke,
I was going to ask you how good you think he is he's
on one of those runs we haven't seen him solved yet he's beaten that you know one at a time that
competition level where you go okay okay if you're doing that let's get to the next level this is now
that next level how good is jack shore he's very very good he's very good uh his striking is scientific he's i think a black belt in jujitsu he's he's got it
all the one thing that has been lacking him is he is so i won't say careful but he is so thoughtful
that i don't think he sometimes has that um killer i'm gonna finish this guy off kind of
instinct he has a he's always thinking through problems you can tell that the wheels are turning and so that makes him not less dangerous in the sense of
getting a win but less dangerous in the sense of you know he's not going to throw crazy hyper or
low percentage shit for the fuck of it right he's not going to do the shane burgos kind of thing
and so that has reduced his capacity for finishes but But in terms of his overall skills and how skilled he is,
he is a force to be reckoned with.
Make no mistake about it.
But Ricky Simone has...
I'm fired.
Ricky Simone had...
Him and Murab Davalashvili had the two best...
Maybe the two best engines in all of the UFC.
Like, you're not going up against some fucking scrub
and Ricky Simone, not by a long shot. So
that is a hell of a fight.
And we gotta move along, but last but not least...
Well, hold on. I know Ricky Simone had some debate
over whether he should get rid of the fucking...
What does he wear, Luke? The mullet? The part in the back?
Yeah, I mean, it kind of is who he is.
Would you advise him to get serious?
I never thought mullets,
even ironically, were funny or cool.
Now, maybe that's because I don't have, you know, I'm not going to say that,
but I've always found them to be stupid, personally.
Now, you might be looking at my hair right now and be like,
Luke, what is it that is about your hair that is so great?
And the answer is nothing, of course.
I look like I've been hit in the head with a 2x4 this morning several times,
but you're just asking me my opinion.
I don't like mullets.
I don't do it for you.
You were about to make a dub T comment until you're like,
oh, shit, I am an on-screen vaping piece of shit.
So, yeah, yeah, I saw that happen there.
Real quickly, last but not least, Lauren Murphy and Misha Tate.
We talked about this in our UFC 276 preview game preview, preview which should have been edited out but wasn't but either way they moved it to
this contest because murphy had covid she's long over it all that's in the past i gotta tell you
this is a you know misha tate's like i'll get a title shot if she wins which i believe oh yeah
i don't know is she gonna win though is she gonna win i don't know i don't know because they do
dude they're this is even i don't even know what the odds are but in my mind this is not only an evenly
matched fight i have fears that this this you know twilight uh misha tate who has proven that
she still got it she still got something i mean she came back from that kind of layoff she's in
incredible shape she proved a lot but but she's going to have to prove
here that she can make this cut and fight
a fighter of this elite status.
And Luke, although she's been solid
in the comeback, I haven't seen
any roads to be spectacular,
to be that next level.
And, you know, certainly to win the title,
she's going to have to be next level, but to win
the fight that gets you into the title fight,
she may have to be.
And the reason I say that is because you and I both respect Lauren Murphy.
Game plan against Shevchenko aside, she's as solid as shit across the board.
I mean, she's good everywhere.
It's hard to look great against her.
This could be a fight, you know, kind of trap matchup for Tate where because it's hard to look great against her,
and if Tate is, youate is solid and consistent but not spectacular
you can lose a majority decision that
way. So, you know, a split decision
whatever. Yeah, Luke, I think there's
certainly a lot of stakes in this fight
but a lot of questions as well. It is good
matchmaking. It's very good matchmaking.
And then actually to open the card
Jessica Petty taking on Emily Ducati.
Emily Ducati is highly
underrated. She had that brilliant knockout in Invicta
against, was it Daniel Steele?
I forget her name.
But Jessica Petty used to be a huge force.
Also at 105.
If you've never seen Penny versus Watterson from Invicta,
you should check that out.
That'll open that card.
That whole card is a banger.
That whole card is a banger.
All right.
Are you surprised quickly that Misha Tate
is a minus 225 favorite?
Does that surprise you at all?
Are you good with that? A little high, if you 225 favorite? Does that surprise you at all, or are you good with that?
A little high, if you ask me.
A little high.
Okay.
A little high.
All right, topic number two.
We won't have a ton to say about this,
but basically the idea is this.
Yuri Prochocka was on MMA Hour.
He also put out a video about it.
Basically saying the next challenger for me is Glover.
I have to keep respect for Glover.
So one other option is to offer Glover the rematch,
and the second thing is to fight Jan.
I have to make a decision in that, but still, yeah,
I have to talk with my UFC and my manager.
But then he put out a video basically saying he's going to fight Glover next.
Jan tweeted, quote, Jan is for me the biggest challenge.
Your words.
Respect you, champ, but the samurai code was not upheld.
Very basic question, BC. who should Yuri fight next?
Well, his reasoning in that video he put out was because he feels he fought bad against Glover. And
I think, you know, we were surprised Luke, that it turned out to be the crazy bat shit action fight
where it seemed like anybody was one big strike away from winning, you know, for about four straight rounds.
I mean, it was awesome.
It was throw out the game plan and find out who's more of a man.
So from that standpoint of how, you know, he's not known as an overly skilled fighter,
but there's obviously a lot of clever craft to what he does to set himself up to do
those insanely explosive strike attempts.
He's probably right, Luke.
He probably can't fight a whole hell of a lot better without giving Glover so many chances.
And by the way, Glover also fought his freaking ass off in that fight.
Age, you know, mileage notwithstanding, dude, he fought like a man in that fight.
Obviously, when the implosion happened, it was quick, but he had poured it all out and then some.
I would love
Prochazka's chances in a rematch. If he feels like
he needs to do this to
prove that he's certainly legit
and that he didn't just outlast
an old guy, then I support
that because I support Glover getting another
chance. Do I fear that
it could be a damaging one?
Of course, at this level, with the way they fight yeah of course but dude get glover one more big payday
that performance last fight might deserve it luke it just might you know what i'm saying
i gotta say i don't i don't really have a strong preference either way and i don't know why i mean
like there's a good case in either direction and um i don't see that the argument for one side or the
other is all that strong yon did rebound right so he would be next but it's not like he had he
went on like a four fight win streak to get back here that would that would change the equation a
little bit and then glover you know that was his first title defense so he couldn't make the
argument that way,
except that it was very competitive
and it was one of the most insane fights you're ever going to see.
So the argument in either direction,
it's like whatever makes sense for you, that's fine.
Whatever makes sense for UFC, that's fine.
But what is the argument that clearly puts one over the other?
You're right.
Nothing that I can see.
That's my issue.
No, no, you're right.
You're right.
That's a good, strong point there. And that would
mean, though, right? Would you make
Blachowicz against the winner of Ankulayev
and Anthony Smith, then? That's not bad
at all. If they do the Glover rematch?
Yes. Yeah. Then yes.
Then yes, I would. Yes. Because that
fight is a big fight. Huge fight.
So something to think about.
As I mentioned, we're talking about 205 here.
Kamaru Usman has set his sights on light heavyweight,
apparently, after talking about Leon Edwards.
Use Usman to TMZ.
Quote, we're going to go in there,
we're going to completely focus on Leon Edwards.
But after Edwards, we have our sights set on 205,
whether it's Jan or whether it's Yuri, whoever it is.
That's what we want.
I want to prove to the world that there is a reason
why they say pound for pound.
That means pound for pound at any given time,
any given moment, at any given weight,
I can go in there and not only hold my own,
I can be victorious.
I want to be able to prove that.
Well, I got to tell you, I love the gusto on Usman.
I don't know how wise it is.
Mobbles, Luke.
Mobbles, bro.
He's got balls the size of hippity hops.
It's just a shame he can't go to 185 because of Izzy.
But that would be a much more,
I'm not saying I don't want this movie,
see, that's not what I'm saying,
but I would prefer it at 185.
I do think that's a little bit more interesting for me.
Once in a while, I love when bizarre rumors
become potentially true.
And I know this is not the first time
he's talked about this,
but every other time he talked about it, Luke,
I didn't really believe him.
But now when you look at his circumstance,
like if he gets by Edwards in the rematch,
man, he's already been there and done that in this division.
Obviously, dude, we're all going fight fucking Shumayev,
but he might be in a spot where he may look and go,
okay, I've done it.
There's a new generation coming on.
I'm not going to take a chance of sacrificing myself to you guys. If I'm going to sacrifice myself, if I'm going to go, okay, I've done it. There's a new generation coming on. I'm not going to take a chance of sacrificing myself to you
guys. If I'm going to sacrifice
myself, if I'm going to go all in, I might as well
fucking, you know, you're coming on. Dude,
he's coming on with this shit.
Obviously, to your point, it seems like a
dramatic leap because of, you know,
friend and
the respect he has for Israel Adesanya
as much as, damn, we would love that matchup. Dude,
we would freaking love that matchup.
But the idea of doing something seemingly this crazy
where you're like, right away, you're like,
man, is that a really, really, really, really bad idea?
But yet, if he bulks up,
if he still feels like he retains the quickness,
his striking is getting better, Luke.
If he feels like he can dominate wrestling on that level,
it's interesting.
It's interesting, Luke. I don't know. You still
don't love the idea of those
strikers, the hammers
at that weight class, and they are fucking hammers.
You know, landing on
his 170-pound chin.
But, you know, things
like this are only crazy until somebody does
them in some ways, too, Luke.
You know, I mean, this was a sport that started open weight, right?
You know, and started you having to win four fights in a night.
You know, I mean, different circumstances, yes, but no time limits.
I mean, you know, that's where we come from in this game, Luke.
So when someone wants to go caveman on that shit in an attempt to like if it's if this is him luke looking at
what he's accomplished and the money he's made and going okay outside of selling my soul to canelo
and i tried but they don't seem to want it and i don't think that i don't think anyone should want
that by the way you know this is my way to double everything my name my money my hit my legacy all
that you you could not criticize that that is that is that is some barbaric shit that
that we all you know if we were playing a video if this was UFC 4 that's how we would make our
fighter act and behave Luke right yes yes it is I hope you felt what I was putting out there Luke
no I was thinking about like I hated the whole canelo push and i would
you know i just it just drove me nuts and then there was that one media guy whoever the fuck
they do the ufc is just handing out credentials to anyone these days apparently but they uh
they're one guy being like would you be the betting favorite at the presser with uh leon
and even kamara was like what like laughed. He couldn't believe someone was even
asking him that. I am glad to be moving on to this. Again, I do think it'd be much cooler if
he was trying it at 185, because not that I don't appreciate the gusto to go to 205. That is fucking
crazy. It's amazing that he would try that. It's just, you know, how doable is that in all reality that's 35 pounds above where he normally competes
that is a shit ton of weight so uh i i just don't have super high hopes for it but it's like you
know what what else can this guy do if the connect to your point if the canelo door has been closed
and he's trying to do something big in the fight game i don't know what else I don't know what else, I don't know what his other options would be, to be honest.
Short of getting hurt,
short of getting hurt, and that's
potential when you take big chances like
this, of course, is this a no-lose
idea for him, Luke? Can he, like, you know
what I mean? If he goes up there and he gives
all and it's just not enough, we're not, we're gonna
be like, damn, that guy had balls. You know, it doesn't
hurt his legacy. I wonder
if he feels losing to, like, the unknown alien, Chimaev, you know it doesn't hurt his legacy i wonder if he feels
losing to like the unknown alien jamaev you know what i mean would that would would that change his
legacy if he lost on the way out of welterweight as opposed to exiting welterweight unbeaten on
his own terms yes and i also think let's say he goes up to 205 and fights you know i don't know
somebody who is you know really big for that weight class, a natural 205-er,
and then he can't quite get the takedown.
And, you know, he makes a strong account of himself.
But just, you know, a little bit of a step behind, you'd be like,
damn, dude, that guy came up two big ass, and not just two weight classes,
two of the biggest jumps in weight classes, right?
So 15 pounds in the first one, then a 20-pound jump in the other one.
This is not going
like triple c was going 125 135 and then i want to 145 that would still you know proportionally
that's still a lot obviously given that you know the natural weight class is 135 or 125 depending
on perspective but it's only 10 pound jumps these are 15 and 20 pound jumps respect that's a huge
huge jump and so if you didn't do all that well you'd be like well, he tried, we already know what he can do at welterweight or something.
And you're right.
I often say this,
like the hardest thing to do in MMA is to stand at the top of a weight class
and then invite contender after contender.
They all find tape on you.
They all find ways to,
you know,
to get whatever kind of weakness you get older.
The contenders get younger.
It's like Doug Stanhope talking about the bar.
It doesn't matter how old you get.
The bar stays 23.
That's how old the bar is.
That's the reality, right?
It doesn't matter how old you get as the champion.
The contenders, they just stay younger and younger and younger,
relatively speaking.
That's why we like high school girls, Luke,
because we get older, but they stay the same age.
Careful. Careful. All right. Come on. Luke because you know we get older but they stay the same age careful careful all right come on it's you know it's it's a famous man once said that okay all right uh topic number three we'll
do some quick hitters BC uh they put in the notes here that Ryan Garcia is going to fight Javier
Fortune or Fortune which is actually not his. It's Javier Fortuna.
BC, I got to tell you, I'm actually halfway interested in this.
I know that Fortuna is not considered the biggest threat to Ryan Garcia.
He's a top 10 guy, but that's about it.
But dude, it wasn't like against Togo, Garcia looked all that awesome.
This is the second fight with Goosen getting a new style under his belt.
Fortuna, decent southpaw, will throw extended combinations along the rope line.
I like this fight okay.
What's wrong with this fight?
Yeah, unlike the fight with Togo, meaning we could talk ourselves into a variable of storylines that could entertain us, right?
Like him coming back and blowing Togo away, which didn't happen, right?
I mean, it was one-sided, but it was kind of long and slow at times
in terms of coming back with a bang from all the questions he had to answer here.
This has one of those things where people kind of groaned when they heard it
because you're like, all right, they already tried to make this fight,
but they couldn't.
And it's like Javier Fortuna has shown these flashes at times in his career
of potentially being very good or great.
You know, and he's won world title before,
but it's not like he has a lot of losses,
but we've kind of seen him be inconsistent.
He is a southpaw counterpuncher.
I mean, he can do some bad things to Garcia
if Garcia holds that sometimes his flash are, you know,
permanent and still there and not going away.
And, you know, to Garcia's credit, Luke,
it wasn't overly exciting,
but he didn't show a ton of gaping negativity in the fight against Togo.
But at the same time, Ryguy didn't look like he's ironed them all out either.
He's still kind of an unknown.
So in that regard, it may be a fight that you groaned at at first
because it's not Tank Davis or, you know, Devin Haney,
but it still could be theater.
We're still going to learn a lot.
And Ryan Garcia still has a lot of questions to answer inside the ring
before, I think, the idea of him against Tank Davis,
which is going to be really hard to make.
Separate promotions, separate networks, and early indications are
that not everybody is all interested in getting along and doing something like that right now.
He's going to have to
silence the skeptics first. And it could happen in one night
potentially, but it's probably going to be more of a
chapter-by-chapter circumstance. So this could be a compelling chapter, Luke,
in his comeback here,
which is still part of his initial rise.
I just feel like it could be a decent action fight.
Garcia fought to go, I'm not going to say recklessly,
but he clearly didn't have a lot of respect for what to go could offer.
I mean, to go was handpicked.
So Fortuna is, as I mentioned, top 10 guy.
Should be beatable, but should be an action fight.
And, dude, Ryan Garcia had the hand injury.
He had the depression.
He collapsed training with Eddie Reynoso.
And everything, he switched up a lot of stuff.
He's kind of rebuilding a little bit to a new identity.
This, to me, seems like an appropriate next step. So between that and the fight being probably an action fight,
I don't love it or something like that, but I definitely don't hate it at all. to me, seems like an appropriate next step. So between that and the fight being probably an action fight,
I don't love it or something like that,
but I definitely don't hate it at all.
Dude, one thing to note,
Fortuna can be... I don't know what the right way to say it is,
because when you look at his record,
you're like, oh, crap, you know?
I mean, he's solid, man.
But he can be kind of flaky sometimes in his performances.
But he has that gene to go after it.
I mean, you know what I mean?
If he sees an opening, he's going to go after it. I mean, you know what I mean?
If he sees an opening, he's going to go after it.
So I think you're right.
I think it's going to be fun and dramatic, even if Ryguy might have to surf the waves for a while
and tiptoe before landing the boom.
Luke, I do feel like, you know,
I don't want to say bad things about another man's tattoos.
That's why, you know, Mr. Hibas deserves the respect, Luke.
I really don't love what Ryguy's done
with his tats, and I know there was that headline on TMZ
where he said, like, he's got a complex
over how much fans hate his tattoos,
but they might be right, Luke. I kind of
expect more for how cool he is
for what he actually has. Are they fixable?
Can we make some adjustments here?
He got a bunch of new ones
and I haven't seen them. I will say this, you know
who's actually got really good new tattoos?
Like, really good.
Jake Paul.
I hate to admit it, but his tattoos are fucking, like, the new ones.
The new ones are fucking awesome.
I haven't seen them.
I can't comment.
Yeah, they're very good.
I saw that.
I mean, we talked about the one where he had the wreath around his neck,
like he had a fucking Christmas wreath on his head or some shit for Ryan Garcia.
I don't love those, but I know he got some other ones and I've not seen them.
It just blows my mind.
It's like these guys have all the money in the world.
You can go to the very best artists that money can buy,
and then they go to some donk who, you know,
it's like Lazy Dragon tattoo in the middle of fucking Culver City, California.
Like, why the fuck are you going there?
Well, the whole point of me bringing up
this seemingly ridiculous side note
was that, you know,
I want to advertise you to the world.
I would love nothing more than to find out
that Team Garcia reached out to you privately
and were like, Luke,
we heard what BC said and he's right.
We'd like to take you on staff
as sort of our, you know, tattoo Q&A,
you know, advisor in that way.
And in theory, that's great.
You'd get a big-time job.
We wouldn't have to go public with it,
but you can help save a guy here from turning the wrong corner.
But I know in the end you wouldn't stop, though,
with just repairing the chest tats.
You'd go full ass tat on him.
You would get in his ear and cover that man's ass.
And, Luke, if I found out out that happened I'm betting against him every
single fight in that he's not going to get to the tank fight okay Luke so don't do that don't do
that Mr. Ass Tats himself Andy Ruiz did you see what kind of good shape my man is in those ass
yeah I saw his glutes I yeah I couldn't quite see his anus but yeah thanks for that piece of content
Andy thank you all. All right.
All right. Speaking of Jake Paul, whose new tattoos are excellent, he had a press conference yesterday
in New York City for his upcoming bout with Haseem Rahman Jr.
BC.
I had a quick conversation with Paul.
Nothing too serious.
About 12 minutes in length.
No, it was good.
Dude, I sell that shit.
It was good.
You asked the right questions, I thought.
I did not think he did not hate me or anything.
He was very friendly before and then after the interview was live.
Don't get me wrong.
It was professional.
It was normal.
But I got the feeling he wasn't going to give me a ton,
so I didn't want to ask for a lot.
But either way, what is your impression of what happened
at yesterday's press conference?
I have to tell you, this Rockman Jr. kid, he's all right by me.
Dude, I thought he performed well in that, again, for whatever that's worth.
But in this case, because of the unknowns as to really where each fighter is
in their career and how good they actually are,
I feel like we can really look at that press conference,
which was theater, by the way.
Shout out to Ariel hosting it.
And I wonder if we're on the same page here.
I came out of there way more excited about this fight
than I feel like a fight with Tommy Fury ever would have actually gotten me,
where I don't really know what's going to happen,
but if you really made me pick,
dude, here's what I think about Hasim Rahman Jr.
I think everything his dad bluntly said about him right to America
is actually right.
When you watch his implosion
in his lone career defeat against
Tommy Morrison's son, you know, it wasn't
that spectacular of a performance leading
up, but it was, you know, where he
was having success. I think
Luke, like we've seen for a lot of fighters,
second-generation fighters, you know,
maybe he hasn't given to this sport.
He's talking about, I haven't been at this weight.
You know, one of the big worries is, okay,
but this heavyweight's got to cut down to 200.
Even this heavyweight fought at 224 last fight.
And I had that worry too, you know, fought as high as 269.
And there's this rehydration rule, you know,
with the New York State Commission here to make sure everyone's safe.
But Luke, it really looks like here's a kid who, you know,
it's hard to follow in when your name
is literally junior of a former heavyweight champion I don't think he's ever really bitten
down to try to find out how good he can be and for his dad to say that publicly means you know
there really was or in or is an issue if he ends up having not only no issue making the weight
because maybe this is the first time he's really going after it because he has to now we may get the best version of him possible and you know them going back and forth about that
sparring session it does depend on who you believe based on the trash talking yeah just like paulie
versus conor mcgregor i'd love to see the video somebody out there's got the video put it out
let us judge for ourselves here but i wonder if this is like i'm not unlike buster
douglas against mike tyson different scenario altogether but douglas because of that 42 and
one book you know somewhere odd so and in one sports book it was deemed as if this bust you
know james buster douglas was never anything and he walked in off the streets like rocky balboa and
took on the champion oh my god my God, he beat him.
No, James, like, Buster Douglas' dad was an aggressive, solid pro boxer,
and Buster Douglas was always this underachieving guy
who had seemingly everything, the frame, the pedigree, all that,
just didn't have the work ethic or the want until he had to one night.
You know, his mom died weeks before the Tyson opportunity.
He finally had something to fight for,
and he put it together and showed what actually is under the tank.
This could be a trap for Jake Paul if this is what ends up happening,
if you activate this guy, a 6'3 southpaw.
That's what makes this fight way more compelling
than what the Fury family could have brought to it from a marketing side,
because Jake Paul may have to really make the leap August 6th that we are going to need him
to do before we're going to believe that he can fight, you know, real boxers and not just
crossover entertainers. He may have to end up proving everything in this fight. And not only
will that be exciting and fun to watch, I don't know if he's coming out of this, Luke. And I don't
think we've really felt that yet on this Jake Paul journey.
Yeah, I mean, if you just took away the identities of everyone
and just gave them letters, ABC or XYZ,
and you looked at X fighter and it was Jake Paul
and all he's accomplished and what his opponents had looked like in boxing,
what their records were, and then you looked at Rockman
and so he would be Y fighter, you didn't know the identities,
who would you pick in this contest?
You would pick Rockman 10 times out of 10.
You would never pick Jake Paul.
You'd pick the guy with 100 amateur bouts,
with a guy who's fought at heavyweight, the guy who's 12-1.
His record's hardly perfect, but it's miles better than Jake Paul.
Now, in the end, there are a ton of factors here.
How ready is Rockman Jrr and you know what kind of
shape is he in is he going to be able to make the weight and blah blah blah there's a lot of things
that are working against him here but the reality is dude this is by a country mile much more
interesting than the tommy fury fight as a real boxing question to be answered here and i gotta
tell you i don't listen if jake paul
i honestly i will be surprised if jake paul wins this fight i'm dead serious i will be very now
if there are total disasters with the weight well then i don't know there's anybody's ball game at
that point yeah i mean look jake well here's the deal jake's pretty damn good for a celebrity
fighter right we've always given him that credit i, he takes it so seriously, but he's, you know, the
ambition is to inevitably
fight an absolute real fighter, even if it's
some cash-in opportunity against
Canelo, which we would all say, please don't do that,
but you get my point. Like, it is
building toward the idea where he knows he's going to
have to prove it. Dude, there's so much
critical opportunity in here for Jake Paul
to prove that, so I think it is right for you and I
to both go, damn, if you know, again, if the weight thing is not a problem like what if the weight
thing is not only not a problem but actually gets Rockman into the best shape of his career like
that's also in play as well you know who knows just think about this he's never fought anyone
who's an athlete like I know he made his pro debut against another I think YouTuber or whoever
he made his pro debut against that guy and I'm sure he was in shape or whatever,
but he's never fought an athlete who was, at least from an age range, his physical prime.
Like, never. He's never done that.
This is the first one.
And, by the way, he's got significantly more boxing experience.
Again, if you didn't know the names, if they showed you X fighter has this and y fighter has this you would never pick jake paul to win so for me i gotta tell you
i find this one way more interesting yeah way more interesting than the tommy fury fight was
like for me like whatever this one is not whatever at all and if you're wondering from like an inside
boxing perspective like before rockman's name was thrown around for this Paul fight.
Like what did people think of him?
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Not all that much to be fair.
So, you know, he also has sort of that burden on him, Luke,
of like, I do have to kind of live up to the family name.
Maybe this is the opportunity that I needed
to sort of kick my ass into it.
Dude, that could be very real in this.
Could be very, very real.
Well, here's the thing.
He could also beat Jake Paul,
and you wouldn't even necessarily believe
he's going to go back to his boxing career and then beat very good guys.
It's not even about that.
Again, if you look at who Rockman has faced,
now he probably has faced guys of a similar level of Jake Paul.
What was the guy's name, the other Legends kid who he lost to recently?
Mackenzie Morrison, I think, or Kenzie Morrison?
Yeah, that's it.
Dude, Kenzie Morrison is significantly better than jake paul as a boxer
and of course you know rockman jr lost but i'm saying who on his record on rockman's record is
as good as jake paul rockman jr already beat him like you know what i mean like this is a very very
i think this is a way assuming that the weight is not a disaster which by the way it could be
assuming that the weight is not a disaster this is an by the way, it could be. Assuming that the weight is not a disaster, this is an uphill climb for Jake Paul.
That's sort of my view.
It obviously depends on, you know, not just, you know, the scenario in which we activate Rockman and say,
OK, now go be as great as you can be.
And maybe in the past he wasn't trying that hard.
There is also this potential.
Like, so the alert here is that he's not fighting a guy like Tyron Woodley,
who was, you know, fought professionally at 170 pounds and then fights Jake in the one nineties.
You know, he's fighting a guy that is bigger, taller than him, naturally stronger than him.
Um, but in that Luke, what if Rockman just, is it all that great of a fighter at the end of the day?
Could Jake potentially have a hand speed advantage? And here's where you're heavily leaning on the parts that Jake actually seems to do well,
at least on the level before, under this sort of imagining eye test of like,
will those skills translate on this level now?
If we get an underwhelming Rockman, you know, Jake may have to go through some stuff,
but he can also, this is potentially a fight he can win and outbox.
And, you know, that could say a lot critically about Jake as well I think here's one thing one thing in Jake's well two things in Jake's favor one he doesn't have nearly the
damage in the miles number one not that Rockman has a ton but you know Jake has hardly any and
Jake has fire underneath him like he has like Rockman Jr., his dad is trying to jolt his career back to life
or something, you know, saying the things that he was saying.
Jake doesn't have that problem.
Jake wakes up intensely motivated for this.
And, you know, this is a huge challenge he's accepting.
Here's the thing I just go back to.
You see, we were there for the second Woodley fight.
Now I'll give Paul his flowers.
That knockout of Woodley is spectacular.
I mean, it is what it is.
That was incredible.
And it wasn't just a big punch. He set it up by faking low and then came over the top. Woodley is spectacular. I mean, it is what it is. That was incredible. And it wasn't just a big punch.
He set it up by faking low and then came over the top.
Woodley transferred defense, and he hit him clean,
and he put his lights out.
Like, that was a tremendous shot.
But just prior to that, dude, that fight was not good.
It was not good in both directions.
Jake Paul did not look good up until that tremendous, tremendous knockout.
And that was a flat-footed, very post-prime Tyron Woodley.
If Rockman Jr. is at all in decent shape
and is at all taking it seriously,
tough fight, bro.
This is a tough fight.
No, but there is, I guess, enough questions about Rockman
to like, the perfect scenario, I said it again,
the perfect scenario for Jake is that he goes in there, it's aman to like, the perfect scenario, I said, I'll say it again, the perfect scenario
for Jake is that he goes in there, it's a really
hard fight, he gets dropped, but he gets up
and then he, you know, finishes the guy.
Gets up and shows that, what you're saying,
he wants it more, and he gets the knockout.
It's like a Rocky movie. I mean, that's not perfect.
That's also potentially in play with this level
of matchmaking. So, yeah,
I'm into it. I'm pretty fired up, Luke.
I'm not going to lie, at the end of the day, they pulled me back in, and there's going to be some questions needing answered,
because I think we can both agree, Jake was out of options. He kind of had to do this. So,
now you have to ask yourself, is they sparred? You got to realize, they sparred, though,
very early in Jake's run, right before that first fight against the YouTuber,
and I think the one right after that.
So this was very early Jake Paul, who was, I mean, look, the guy fought and Easton Gibb,
Luke physically, that's a, you know, that's a mismatch there.
You can't even almost count that.
So at that point, did Jake do things, have certain rules in the sparring that Rockman
keeps bringing up that was meant to protect him?
Yeah.
I mean, at that point he didn't even know what he had or what, you know, what Anis and Gibb was going to be him,
you know, bring to him.
So maybe there is a potential for Jake to have made such a leap
from what Rockman remembers where that sparring not only means
nothing to this fight, but it could give Rockman false confidence.
Do you think there's a potential in that at all,
given how long ago it was?
Yes, here's the thing.
I know Jake Paul's going to take this seriously.
Whatever you want to say about his ability and this whole
YouTube boxing thing, fine. But I do
think he's going to take it seriously. I do think he's training
hard, and I do think he's going to be in shape.
We don't know about that, but we're with Rockman Jr.
We don't have any clue what we're going to get
with him in terms of what is
your desire to win? What is your
level of motivation? What is your level of
training? What is your level of fire that burns underneath you?
I guess what I'm saying is, if he is at all prepared,
if he's at all prepared, it's a tough night for Jake.
On the other hand, if he's just going to phone it in like he has been doing,
yeah, then Jake probably can get the better of him.
Because I think skills win fights,
but Jake is significantly
better than he was and he again i don't have any questions about jake's desire zero none but he is
green he is crazy crazy crazy green and rockman jr hasn't set the world on fire but in terms of
boxing he's done a shitload more that should matter on some level if he has trained properly.
But I guess we'll see.
I guess we'll see.
BC, speaking of Ariel Helwani, he spoke to Nate Diaz,
who had a long interview where he didn't say anything a whole lot new,
but that he's looking for a release from the UFC
and that they're holding him hostage.
What did you make of Diaz's comments?
Yeah, I mean mean it sort of
hammered home the the sort of ideas we had of you know why is UFC really freezing him out I still
don't know if we really know whether it's a because they know he's going to go fight Jake
Paul and kind of be a competitor to what UFC is trying to do in that same pay-per-view combat
sports market or if it's because they're waiting for connor
you know it seems like connor's come back here like there's times that we're all about talking
about it right could make phil's headlines easy to match making fun but like is he close i don't
feel like we even really know exactly where he's at and when it can be both of those but is it one
which one is it after hearing after hearing nate break down in detail
painstaking slow detail luke but in detail about where he's at and who they actually offered him
and the times he feels like they've kind of taken a step back in the negotiation and just let let
time kind of burn him i don't know to me it, you know, his whole situation is just underscores how imbalanced I would say that the world of MMA is relative to boxing.
Boxing, of course, has its tremendous problems, to be clear.
But a fighter like this should not be having these kinds of interviews at this stage of his career.
It should not be this painful for him to get a fight.
And, you know, I listen, I'm sure Nate Diaz is on his own account. The UFC would probably tell us, oh, you have no idea how
hard he is to deal with. And there might be some truth to that as well. Who the hell knows? I don't.
But what I guess what I would say is we should not be in a situation like this. This should be
resolvable. This should be moving along. The UFC is doing well enough where they, you know,
Nate Diaz is certainly a huge name, but they don't need him for continued success,
and handicapping him this way so that he can't get a Jake Paul fight on time
or whatever they're trying to do, it just seems gratuitous and unnecessary,
and I really hope they can figure this out.
He called their bluff on, according to him,
he called their bluff on the Chimaev offer,
and then he, according to him, Chimaev suddenly didn't want it.
Yeah, but who, I mean, he says things like, I beat Kabob.
You know what I mean?
Like...
Well, that's the thing.
So I was going to ask you...
It's hard to know.
I feel like whenever Nate says something specific about a, you know, a potential where UFC could
have wronged him, because we all love Nate.
And we're all like, how the hell could you take three years off after your pay-per-view
brand, you know, reached its apex with the two Conor fights?
And, you know, and now you're going through this where you're just wasting away,
not your fault, seemingly, in the moment.
But then like 10 seconds later, Luke, he'll be like,
yeah, Ariel, where was Masvidal?
He was about to retire before I came across him,
and then I made him a superstar.
It's like, yeah, kind of not true in that timeline, really.
It was after the, you know, yeah, no.
So he does that a lot, Luke, where you're like,
okay, maybe I have to apply the same, you know,
grain of salt when he's talking about negotiations, too.
Maybe, maybe, Luke.
Still, at this point, the guys on Twitter
are begging for a fight.
Let's see if we can get him one.
I really hope we can.
All right.
Oh, he deserves it.
I mean, what the F, Luke?
I mean, come on.
It can't be that hard. It just can't be. I'm sure that Diaz is hard to deal with. I mean, what the F, Luke? I mean, come on. It can't be that hard.
It just can't be.
I'm sure that Diaz is hard to deal with.
I'm sure that he is.
But it can't be the case that they can't get him a fight.
I just don't believe that at all.
So in the end, that's what it kind of comes down to for me.
BC, very quickly,
GSP says there would be three fighters he would face
at any kind of return,
which, by the way, I want to clarify.
But unfortunately for me and the fans and everybody,
it's not going to happen because I'm done and I don't miss it at all.
So I don't have a whole lot to say about this.
But the fighters he says he would name in a return would be Habib,
Usman, and Shamaya.
What do you make of that?
Anything interesting to you?
Not really.
I mean, it does sort of support his ideology and how he looks at it, Luke.
I mean, that's the reason why he's been so selective
on actually coming back.
You know, I know there's some wrangling with the UFC, of course,
and it took Nick Khan, right,
to be like the third man in the room to get UFC to...
Explain to the audience who Nick Khan is.
Now the president of WWE,
but, you know, became a super agent on the level
that, like, we almost hadn't seen in this game,
you know, from representing broadcasters to, to the hot companies like WWE or,
or, you know, anyone bringing him on to negotiate their deals,
which so he was a part of so many monster things that happened across pro
wrestling, all of combat sports. Then, you know,
he was a key factor in launching the top break on ESPN cable deal, which became
a huge move.
So all that.
He was the reason, it seems, that we ever got GSP to sit down with UFC brass and get
through whatever issues just to get him back against BizPing.
So the whole point here, Luke, the best thing I'll always ever say about George is he loves
the idea of fighting for a legacy so well, so much.
You know what I mean?
Not about the celebrity and money as much as he's about what have I accomplished and
how can I pick on that bonsai tree and make it look perfect, is he never would come back
unless it was for something that can elevate his career.
So in that regard, yes, these three opponents do sort of fit that model to some degree, although the Chemaev one is interesting to hear him even
say that. But, him against Habib right now,
as unlikely as it is,
it's one of those rare sort of like
break glass super fights that really the intention of fights like that is to bring
in the ridiculous casual audience and make an event, right? Sometimes
the fan in us respects
what an event could do for the sport
pay-per-view-wise and all, you know, attention
but we're all like, yeah, but who fucking
wants to see that? This is
the rare fight in that where it's like I'd get giddy like
a schoolgirl for GSP versus
Habib, given all the legacy involved
and all that. Unbeaten record against, you know,
GSP going for the third title. I mean, I know that Habib's not even the legacy involved and all that. Unbeaten record against GSP going for the third
title. I mean, I know that
Habib's not even the champion anymore, so
those stakes and terms wouldn't even
be applied, but are you
as fucking A as I
am on
our sport, unfortunately, having missed the
potential for that? That could have been something so
special. I don't know.
GSP retired, what what five years ago why
the fuck are we still doing this get romantic for once you old piece of i mean just get you know
what i mean like wine and dine me take me to the gun range his career dude i was there for virtually
every single one of his fights not in person but like you know certainly observing it in real time
i got i got the gsp experience like i got it i got to see it from nearly beginning
to end i don't i i got i'm fulfilled you know what i mean okay but a lot of people missed it
and have this nostalgia for it which was fine he had a tremendous career but you know he's he
doesn't want to fucking come back why are we doing this but lukito the part of you that unreachable
part reserved for my colombian in-law which you are not that part of you that
only comes out once in a you know blue moon no I'm not talking about two margarita Luke I'm talking
about Pauly way that guy that guy that just the moment the moment made you rock hard with a real
fight fan the end of the day you can say whatever else you want about me I'm a real fight fan but
at the same time dude like you know can we stop crashing into the cemetery here the guy
he's okay he's moved on he's moved on like let's move on luke all right let's move bc this one
will get you a phoner if you haven't already got one uh my level of interest is close to zero but pvz gets a uh bkfc opponent uh facing charissa carissa sagala yeah who's fought four times for
the promotion she's 38 uh was in a fight of the year contender against taylor starling at
that fight was that fight was insane like almost too much that fight was almost it was like there's
just you know what i mean like this this sport can go too far lu. That fight was almost... You know what I mean? This sport can go
too far, Luke. That fight was insane.
But she's won one and one
in BKFC. Your reaction?
It seems like a potential get well.
Although it also
could be a trap fight like the other ones have been.
So in that case, Luke, as much as I'm not here
to endorse the nutritional
value of the gas station hot dog,
I mean, look at my liver
it's the color of this shirt right but luke um yeah i'll watch and it's probably the right move
here all things considered okay i mean pvc can box in the bkfc on this level but i don't know
if she has the those other parts that you need to be good at this sport luke you know i mean
because it's different it's different yeah but i'm a question for you because i've not really kept
up with her career except i mean i guess she fought um rachel ostovich and loss and there
were some other ones there as well if you can't beat this opponent and again she's one one and
one she's not like oh and three or something but if you can't beat this opponent, what would BKFC do with her?
Maybe this is her playing out what, you know, the fights,
the things she owes in the contract maybe because we know, Luke,
that she's having success.
I don't know.
Is she a full-time AEW wrestler?
Even I don't know that.
I'm not watching any wrestling anymore, Luke.
Wow. Wow. know that i'm not watching any wrestling anymore luke wow wow you got got that uh got that ebola wow wow this is uh this yeah okay we don't need to have you seen this shit we're having faces of
death right right now in front of you uh luke whatever nobody can let's go to the next step
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Luke, I'm actually not against Two Margarita Lukito,
but not having the right sound where everybody's involved,
the crowd can hear us, we can hear each other,
I couldn't wrangle that beast.
But if you guarantee me working sound system,
I'll pour water on you after midnight
or whatever it is to turn your gizmo ass
into a spike-haired raging gremlin, Luke.
I'll dance with the devil here if it's necessary, okay?
Okay.
At a live show?
You don't have to retire just for me, Luke, okay?
And anything for you, BC.
All right, it's time for bc's feces on oh wow that's a harsh no sell there luke are you all right let's get out of
here uh here we do we do this on monday but today's wednesday but we're back at it we uh
scour the globe over a long weekend for the highest i'm excited for these good the bad the
ugly beyond combat sports all that bullshit here it Here it is. It's called Have You Seen This Shit?
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
All right, Luke.
Here we go.
I still haven't even watched the UFC card.
So, you know, this may be more people falling and dying than people falling and dying in the cage.
But I do have one highlight from UFC Fight Night in Las Vegas, Luke.
Did you see Chase Sherman getting into that heavyweight war with jared vanderaw luke i did showing showing that
killer instinct would you say right luke yeah yeah i mean he took a he took some heavy shots
on the way to doing this so let's be clear about that but he got the job done good for him i mean
he's an exciting guy well speaking of that killer instinct did you see the photo he posted later that night
kind of gross to be honest with you on the old ig with oj simpson and luke the caption said
killers is this cool cringe or like get this the fuck off my timeline yeah not that wasn't my
favorite to be honest with you uh you know here here's the thing. I mean, I don't know how old Chase Sherman is, but I was, I think, in ninth or 10th grade.
So I was in high school when the OJ verdict came down.
And I remember like the word spreading around that he was not guilty.
And it was like, oh, dude, we watched it in class live on the TV and in accounting class.
Yeah, it was a big deal.
And like, if you go back and just sort of like the trauma that was done to to the goldman family as a consequence of you know i know he was exonerated but you know we all kind of have a but
dude we celebrated did this happen for you guys the entire room broke out in celebration because
you're 17 and you're feel like you have some quasi-anarchy spirit inside you're like yeah he
got off yeah no it was much more like he's the leader of the nwo now or something like
looking back it's like oh my god what are we doing horrible it's a horrible thing that
happens to that family and you know shit like this where oj just gets to walk around free
you know is kind of a indictment on our society and uh and the justice system so i i didn't love
it didn't love it yeah which is the worst but you know there's
probably other people in this category that i would easily taken that picture with and i probably
will luke probably so probably so you are also a gross yes gross man oh luke we had mentioned the
whole phoner joke and maybe i swung and missed trying to get josh emmett you know to say look
the idea of fighting max let's talk about our dicks having erections. But, Luke, we keep hearing fighters talking about this.
Even Jake Paul, who was on the MMA Hour with Ariel.
Let's have a listen.
I get a fucking fart on in the ring every time I get to spar.
Luke, this is becoming a thing, bro.
I mean, fucking fighting, it's all the same, right?
You know?
Yeah, and there you go.
We're talking about OJ in one breath
and then War Machine in the next.
I don't know.
You know, I've done a decent amount of combat sports training.
Never had a boner.
That wasn't a thing.
We had wrestling in sixth grade gym, Luke,
at City Hill Middle School
And this is my only experience in this
Me, I forgot the other kid's name
Dave Ferreira, that's it
We rolled around and Coach Harrison blew the whistle
And was like, stop trying to have sex with each other
Get up and next guy's in
And I never did another second of that
I think I forgot my clothes the next class.
I was like, dude, I'm done with this amateur wrestling bullshit.
Now, Luke, I know amateur wrestling is manly,
and there's a lot of great that comes with it.
Not that mansion owner.
Not that guy.
Remember the foxcatcher?
That guy was the worst.
But, you know, I had a bad experience.
Yeah, so if I have to be, you know, Brian DuPont, I'm sorry, Luke.
I'm sorry. Okay, let's keep it going. Luke, how if I have to be Brian DuPont, I'm sorry, Luke. I'm sorry.
Okay, let's keep it going.
Luke, how about we mix two of our favorite worlds, the UFC and basketball?
Did you see footage that broke out of this UFC cash game that the Schmo got invited to?
But watch Bilal Muhammad.
Remember the name.
Watch his post-defense on DC.
Get that shit out of here, DC.
Well, you'd never know thatc is a world-class athlete
you know um there's further highlights out there of jamal hill who apparently has like legit game
luke just raining down threes and that so yeah but he's like a he's like a trim 205 or right
like that makes sense he's probably you know like six foot plus and has some ups boy old dc you
i mean that dude was like one of the best athletes i've ever covered you would not know that watching
him play hoops at the y you know no i bet you he has good old guy like what yeah ymca game like
of just backing you down and getting rebounds and throwing elbows and stuff i bet you he's decent but
balal balal mutumboed him right there a little bit of boxing from the weekend. I don't know if you
and Chuck ended up, I didn't go this deep in that episode,
but Brandon Figueroa
at 126 without
that weight cut being as severe?
Good God, Luke. Is he the truth?
The way he spun around Carlos Castro
in a close fight and just
destroyed him. I mean, you can argue about the stoppage,
but, dude, he...
You know what? I'm going to be honest
about something. I was always a little bit
skeptical of him because he gives
away his height in fights in such a
style that's seemingly
the opposite of what he
should do with that body frame, where you're sometimes
like, okay, is he sacrificing how good he can
be to just get in these wars?
Then you watch him go to the body
and he knocked out Nary with that beautiful shot,
and he certainly gave Fulton all he can handle.
But he looked like he was stepping into power shots
in a way that I'd never seen from him before.
You never think of him as a big puncher
except for the ability to stop guys to the body,
which is no joke.
But he may end up being a finisher at this weight class, Luke,
if he can keep those type of punches going. I mean, those looping shots in the, in the, in the pocket,
he's dangerous. Dude, I had a whole conversation about this fight with Chuck in the sense that I
was watching this. It was, he was a six round stoppage. And this was something that kind of
occurred to me watching this and BC, you will be much better equipped to answer this question
because I do try to watch as much boxing as I can but I don't know how much I'm missing or how true
this is in this fight he used an absolute ton of stance switching which got me to thinking about
who uses stance switching and who doesn't have to be clear stance switching has happened a long
time in boxing in fact my favorite boxer of all time marvin haggler is kind of famous for it however today when i look around you do see stance switching across different weight classes and
different age groups but this is my little working hypothesis how good is it the vast majority of
stance switching is concentrated among boxers in their 20s true or false yeah I would say that that's a high what is your best explanation
for why that is true I mean you need a you need a high gas tank and output to be able to you know
pull off the kind of footwork that it takes to do that on a high level and to be able to make those
type of adjustments now Figueroa does it more in the pocket when he gets the guys back to the rope
so he's sort of taking his style which which, like I said, maybe I admitted,
maybe sometimes we looked at as sort of one-dimensional in some ways.
If you don't think of him as a knockout puncher,
then he's just kind of pressuring you and trying to overwhelm you.
Well, now he's adding in the stance switching and all these in the craft now.
So he's putting craft within his fight, which is he makes you fight on his terms.
Even Stephen Fulton had you fight on his terms.
Even Stephen Fulton had a fight on his terms in front of him.
And now he's able to kind of bring nuance to that and not have to cut himself down.
He could be something different than I thought he was now moving forward. But to your point on the stance, it's probably more of just the, I don't know.
I mean, you have to be really good to be able to pull it off.
There are guys that aren't that great that, you know, switch stances every once in a while. But seriously, you know, you got to be really good to be able to pull it off. There are guys that aren't that great that switch stances every once in a while.
But seriously, you've got to be Terrence Crawford.
You've got to be really good to make that a regular part of your offense.
Boots Ennis.
Boots Ennis.
So I wonder if it's going to be a thing, Luke, like the evolutions in MMA,
where it just becomes, you know, when we watched the NBA in the 90s,
centers, you know,
centers weren't shooting threes, Luke.
Now you have to shoot threes
just to be on the floor, right?
It may be a thing that
you're seeing it more in younger fighters
because they're just kind of training it now
rather than trying to add it into their game later.
They're growing up freestyling
and you certainly don't see that in boxing
as much as you see it in MMA.
So to see it now at an elite level in Figueroa and also, I mean, look, Carlos Castro is nobody's joke.
And, you know, he turned a close fight into being over just like that.
Dude, he's adding craft and power together.
Watch out.
Watch out for the heartbreaker, Luke.
I'm watching.
I think he's good.
I love that performance from him.
He looked awesome.
He would have stolen the shit out of your girl
at whatever frat you guys were at.
Kai, Papa, low testosterone and confidence, Luke.
That's what it was.
Well, yeah.
What were you doing partying in college,
Mr. Fucking King of the Prom?
I mean, I may have dropped out by that point.
I may have been working in the kitchen at a nursing home.
However stupid my partying was,
and to be clear, it was very stupid.
Guilty as charged. Yours was
as stupid, if not more stupid.
Just point that out.
Yeah, I mean, you know, he who
smokes out of glass pipes, Luke, should not throw
stones or vapes.
Yes, there you go. Alright, let's keep
it going here. Luke, this top-ranked
undercard over the weekend had a heavyweight banger.
You see this?
It was one-sided, though, but...
Boy, not a lot of linear punching going on here.
Yeah, I should have gotten the guy's name, Luke.
This is an early fight in his career, but, boy,
he put it on a random white guy from the Midwest there, Luke.
Damn.
I'll tell you what, though.
I swear to God, man, this rule, you know, you have to dial it back and be more scientific about it but i swear to god
people are like oh you know what's the i get these questions over emails all the time and you know i
i've been to a million amateur fights right what's the number one piece of advice i give someone
who's like making a pro debut or you're fighting someone who's like you know one and oh or oh and
one like right in that first sort of second fight territory dude it's it's blitz the other guy someone who's making their
pro debut is nervous as shit and is not really firing on all cylinders fucking overwhelm them
that's the answer and then work on your craft scientifically a little bit later yeah fight
like the tasmanian devil look like a spaz uh Not to be outdone, Luke, Dazon also had a nice one-sided heavyweight banger
on the Chisora-Pulev rematch undercard.
And yeah, I guess you can imagine who wins this, Luke.
That guy got the, yeah, all right.
Yeah, he got, he was on the,
this Portley fellow was on the,
correct me if I'm wrong,
he was on the Tyson Fury,
Dillian White undercard, right?
It's possible, although they do have a lot of guys that look like that over there, Luke.
But thanks for coming on out.
Luke, here's a heavyweight I have a lot of respect for because he's a badass, Deontay Wilder.
And while I believe this story of him getting a statue in Tuscaloosa, Alabama,
is one of the better underreported feel-good stories, I love it.
But if this video is real, Luke,
apparently Deontay really loves it.
Have you seen this?
I think it's him.
Oh, this is his statue in, yeah,
as you mentioned, Tuscaloosa, right?
Yeah, I mean, he's like making out with the guy, Luke.
I mean, I guess if I saw myself in bronze like that,
maybe I'd do the same, Luke.
But it's aggressive.
It's aggressive behavior.
Yeah, it's a lot.
That's a lot to do there.
I'm not sure what that really symbolizes.
But you know what?
My man's in love.
Don't try to get in the way.
Love is love, BC.
Yeah.
Do you see Derek Chisora call out Wilder after winning a split decision over Pulev?
No.
I didn't pay attention to that.
Would you be into that as a comeback fight?
Wilder versus Chisora? Yes, I would. Yes, I would. Would you be into that as a comeback fight? Yes, I would.
Yes, I would. Hell yeah. Do it in
England. That'd be an event. Luke, you know
tight end Travis Kelsey?
Yeah, he plays for the Chiefs, correct?
Yeah, he went all Happy Gilmore
over the weekend at a celebrity
pro-am golf tournament in between
shots, Luke, doing the old keg
stand.
Just want to point out, this guy is at a celebrity golf tournament,
like just fucking off and is infinitely cooler in this moment
than you or I have ever been.
Yeah, yeah.
I got to give him that.
Shout out to...
Is he still with the Chiefs, Luke?
I'm not as tied in as I should be.
Yeah, he's still...
It's a beer bong, by the way, not a keg stand.
Yeah.
He is...
Yeah, he's like one of the best
if not the best tight end in the league hell yeah all right uh look it's regional regional mma time
which you know anything can happen how about some spinny shit done right this is sean schubert
at lion fight 74 oh son bro that is such a brutal way to lose.
Hold that.
Oh, God.
Bloody.
God damn.
Yeah, it was a war apparently, Luke.
Let's go over to LFA.
We're 20 to 1 betting favorite on Ho.
He made you some money here, Luke, with an insane finish just 14 seconds in.
Yeah, this was great.
I think this guy trains with MMA Lab or I'm not entirely certain,
but, dude, this is great.
Watch him.
The guy who finishes it is going to jab and then step back at an angle,
and that's what he needs for all the space.
Dude, these guys are getting so good so good with
footwork footwork set all that up that was just brilliant brilliant brilliant stuff i mean that
was like his like it was like hell reached out and grabbed the body and put it right in the coffin
the way he fell luke it was that was wow okay uh let's go over also in the lfa luke alan bogoso
uh with a with a sick flying finish.
I haven't seen this one.
Oh, I thought he was coming with the right knee and gave him the left instead.
The old okie-dokie.
Will we be seeing these guys down the road, Luke?
The unho guy, I think for sure you're going to see.
This guy, I don't know a whole lot about, but damn, that was nice.
That was really nice. That very very good a little bonus here from kombache global
luke a uh you know vicom cbs brand there uh ricardo ramirez with this upkick finish
that's not the best angle are they going to give us another angle i saw this one too
bro you know what's amazing to me is how many things like
you know if you had a i don't know you don't have a brother but i had an older brother
it's like how many things that worked on your older brother actually work in mma when you guys
were like fucking off wrestling on the couch or whatever oh yeah upkick city dude upkick dude i
used to think upkicks were like a joke that just you know siblings did to wrestle over the television
remote now it turns out you can beat the fuck out of someone with them yeah yeah i'll retreat to go i'll pull guard in a school fight
and i'll kick the shit out of you luke all right in front of the debate team while they're watching
like there's our captain yeah all right luke uh it's time for some reefer madness whiz khalifa
inventing a new bong here luke i got sent sent this about 5,000 times in my DMs saying,
show to Luke.
Show to Luke now.
Yeah.
You know, what's that song by the Dixie Chicks?
Cowboy, take me away.
Oh, my God.
Look at this gun, Luke.
Yeah, just put that in my face and then tell my wife and kids I loved them.
That really is all I want you to do.
Luke, could this firearm end gun violence?
I certainly hope.
I mean, yes.
Instead of an AR-15, just go buy this thing,
and I think you'll have a happier, healthier world.
Thank you.
But, Luke, is it better than the five-gallon jug bong challenge
that this video offers you?
Could you survive, Luke, this apparatus?
No, not those those luke this one
shout out to cypress hill for constantly giving us this entertainment
be real indeed oh my lord look you would pass out instantly after that hit. Instantly. I hope.
I hope.
Just get a priest there to give me my last rite.
They'd be like, BC, are you heartbroken?
Well, he did go out doing what he loved.
If you died doing this, I can't think of a more noble death than that.
To be quite honest, you died in war, but that's's better right there that's amazing all right luke best street fight of the week takes us to this
outdoor new york city restaurant on someone's birthday luke bro they they scrap in new york
city i've seen so many street fights out there okay here comes the birthday dessert. Here comes the Sunday police. Oh, boy.
Oh, my God. This is like a WWE
false count anywhere match.
This is great.
Okay.
Luke, I got another one for you
from the outdoor bars.
Look at this white fella
going all Superman punch
in a street fight.
Did he hit it?
Wait.
I don't think he hit it.
I think he hit face first, Luke.
By the way, perfect that they're outside of Bar Loco.
That is...
Look at this.
Look at my man.
He's like some fucking gooner who cheers for Arsenal
and just missed like a motherfucker like Arsenal does
in the top six every season of the league.
That is fucking great.
Bar Loco.
Luke, finally on the street fights,
this is more one-sided of a street fight,
but are we fucking or fighting in this one, Luke?
Yo, my man gets real handsy here.
Oh, oh, oh.
They did the old Deontay Wilder.
These dudes are the best.
Oh, wow.
You know what?
See, this is what happens, BC.
This is what happens. You get into a fight, then you get a phoner, and then the game Wilder. Oh, wow. See, this is what happens, BC. This is what happens.
You get into a fight,
then you get a phoner,
and then the game just changes.
It just changes.
You know, Jake Paul was right about this.
You know, wow, okay, yeah.
Woo, all right.
I got one more public street fight here.
Here's inside of a club, Luke.
You know, that's a bad place to be.
Yes, let's stop fighting in clubs, everybody.
Oh, drink to the face. Oh, my God, another one. Oh. up luke you know that's a bad place to be yes let's stop fighting in clubs everybody what oh
drink to the face oh my god another one oh
you'll hold my chair motherfucker yo oh my god and i think it left a scar shaped like an l on
his face look that is awful uh luke i don't know what these people fighting in clubs and shit it's
like dude what like yeah does any let me show of hands who goes to a club to have a good time maybe instead of this well if
i'm gonna go i'll bring the holster with the sweatpants plexico burris you know what i mean
like come on bro you know what i mean also i've made this point a million times it's not like i
never had my fun as a dumbass 20 year old doing shit like this too but like here's the reality
in general in general it's not
hard to not get in a fight at a club it's not hard yeah you kind of have to want one uh you know
what does steven a say luke quit the forget the weed what does he say what's his lame catchphrase
oh please believe it or whatever the fuck dumb shit no no the one about weed he's trying to get
everybody off the weed i don't know whatever all right Luke. I don't know what this means, but you know AFL, Australian Rules Football?
We have so many MK Aussie fans from the down under, Luke.
They want us to celebrate Buddy Franklin getting a historical 1,000th goal in the AFL.
Do you care or know anything about this?
Because look at the fan reaction, Luke.
They care down i had a buddy of mine who was american who uh made one of these teams now he was not you know i think he was like
a total scrub and i you know he only played i think two or three seasons in the league
um it's a tough ass sport i don't know shit about it but i kind of want to learn because it looks like a great, great game.
Like, dude, the Aussies, dude, I got to go to Australia.
Everything the Aussies do, I kind of like.
I love Australians, man.
I got to get my ass down there.
You know that Long Island Luke, who's producing this show right now,
his dad is from down under.
He claims his dad is a big AFL fan, the Geelong Cats.
So shout out.
Not to be confused, of course, with Australia Luke, who works at Malka.
This is Long Island Luke, who's dad.
And then there's, yeah, there's...
People just talking in the show very comfortably.
Valdosta Luke is also here as well.
Okay, Luke, shout out to Buddy Franklin, whatever that means.
Luke, you know kids say the darndest things.
They also do some really dumb shit.
But check out my man here at the Easter concert.
I kind of support this, Luke.
Who's bad?
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Oh, that's great.
That's great.
That kid's going to coach high school sports one day.
Yeah, he will. Yeah, he will yeah he will that's great uh luke uh look at how happy this kid was for his own birthday and the cake you know what god that that my man is living life to the force he's got a
backyard party he's got some kool-aid and he was was like, you know what I'm going to do with this cake? I'm going to put that shit
in my face. Yeah, I mean,
it's kind of like having sex with the apple pie in the
center of the island there in your
kitchen, Luke, but he went for it.
He's coming on. His mom not happy.
Wow, Luke.
Let's go to the bike trail. I don't know if kids
this old should be allowed on their own bike,
Luke, without like training wheels or like a
rope or something.
This may be offensive to some girl dads Luke oh into the drink
yeah she unfortunately she never
came back Luke but
she did make this show so wow good
parenting skills right there
and finally Luke you know
you try to raise them
my kid has this bike they call it the balance bike you ever seen these yes so the
balance bike for folks who may not know it looks like a normal bike and instead of training wheels
the bike just doesn't have pedals you use your feet to go but a lot of these balance bikes and
some of them do but not all of them have brakes it's like most of them don't most don't
yeah i'm like yo maybe you take away the pedals that's cool but maybe put at least like one break
on this motherfucker like they don't put any airbag something yeah yeah it's something all
right wow uh luca here's the reality until maybe even the age of like 35, if I'm at a public sporting event and the camera comes upon
me and I don't have like my mom
or wife next to me, I'm gonna make
a lewd facial
expression. I'm just like, it's just ingrained
in me, Luke, to be that guy. You know
what I mean? I might do something
ridiculous. So I can't be
mad at this kid's parents here at the
hockey playoffs luke i mean i mean maybe that's a little too far look but uh yeah i mean i doubt he even really
understands what he's doing but you know shut up you see let him who's without sin in these moments
cast the first stone and i gotta tell you i'm so glad I grew up in an era where they didn't record all of the dumb shit I ever did.
Well, Luke, we actually have video of how that last kid was raised.
So let's go to that now.
All right.
Oh, that lady's a winner.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I hear it promotes good.
No, that's not healthy.
Look, that's not.
Yeah.
Now hear this. Yeah. No, that's not healthy. Look, that's not. Now hear this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay, let's round it out here, Luke.
Check out this retro shirt that somebody found that Hooters put out after 9-11.
Is this in good taste?
On the bottom, it says, let freedom wing.
Wow.
You know what?
Let's make sure we sell uh chicken wings of abused animals
and let's let's use the massacre of nearly 4 000 americans to now like i don't know when
if it's real i don't know when it came out and i also don't know if it's real
but that's some insensitive ignorant bullshit luke wow right i'm surprised the two towers
just weren't two different wings
that they put up there for the 11, you know?
Yeah.
Luke, do you remember the 92 Olympics in Barcelona
where our colleague Raul Marquez was supposed to come home with a medal
but then let Oscar win that medal?
I was 12 when that happened, so I remember a little bit.
Remember Dan and Dave, Luke?
That went well.
Oh, I remember these two jackasses.
Yeah. Well, Luke, everybody wants to be Dan and Dave until it's time to do Dan and Dave, Luke? That went well. Oh, I remember these two jackasses. Yeah. Well, Luke,
everybody wants to be Dan and Dave until it's time to do Dan and Dave shit.
I like how this dude's an athlete and we both
could have beat this jump. Yeah,
absolutely. Absolutely. If you don't remember
Dan and Dave... Eat that mat, bitch.
They were two decathletes
that were supposed to be gold medal
favorites and one of them ended up not even qualifying for the games
after the multi-million dollar commercial campaign was already out
and in full force, Luke.
That stunk, okay?
That did.
Although Hideo Kiyoshita, who ended up fighting in pride,
got a gold medal at the 92 Barcelona Olympics.
Oh, wow.
Shout out to that too luke all
right yeah uh it's time to play would you eat luke this is my favorite have you seen this shit game
uh let's start with this luke i don't know why we're not going to amano's restaurant in las vegas
because they end up on this portion of the show regularly this is called the gondola would you
take this down luke so let me see if I understand this.
Is that just bread or is that like a calzone?
I don't.
I wouldn't underestimate.
Let me see if I can get it.
You got rosemary on the side with spaghetti on top and then vodka sauce and then meatballs.
It looks like.
Yeah.
And it looks spectacularly good.
I mean, you look, I would probably shit my pants while eating it but it
looks really good well listen as long as someone kept the car running after my gallbladder explodes
and you can take me to the hospital yeah i'd eat it indeed indeed uh luke how about this one for
your daughter's next uh breakfast meal i'm on the fence whether i would accept this luke would you eat this oh jesus titty fucking christ oh wow that's a wow that's
a very aggressive response for some fucking pancake syrup luke damn wow all right i mean
you we've lost our sponsors after that one great sorry that was just the first thing that came to
mind i was like wow wow, that is...
They're just finding all new kinds of ways
to get sugar in kids' bloodstream.
Dude, I bet you it's amazing.
Yeah, of course I'd eat it.
What are you talking about?
Of course I'd try it.
Damn right.
Luke, how about this one?
I'm a hell no, but I know you like weird things.
They call this egg pizza with banana and fish.
Okay, just whoever made this throw that
motherfucker in the hag i mean just throw him in the same ravine and pop his head off like they did
saddam hussein this is a fucking crime the fuck the person who made this seriously wow wow wow
so that's a stoned charcuterie on Instagram for this gem. Wow, all right.
Luke, you know this video.
It's coming.
Here's Dana White out to dinner with one of the Nelk boys who are friends with his son.
And for the birthday of this Nelk boy, Luke, directly in a bag, Luke, with no potential IRS accompanying along with it.
That's up to you or John Nash.
The bag does have paperwork in it.
I mean, sure.
Okay.
Maybe this time they're going to put that one on the book so they can write it off.
But, Luke, you got to understand that not only did john s nash and i look at this and go oh my god did you see fighter lewis smolka quote tweeted like basically hey boys when are
we forming this union um wow luke i'll tell you what if you want to make money in the ufc start
a podcast that befriends i guess the no are the milk boys friends with dana's son is that what i
understand that's how i've heard it yeah dana what I understand? That's how I've heard it.
Yeah. Dana White III. Yeah, that's how I've heard it.
I don't know if that's accurate, but yeah, just get a
podcast that he likes and
you'll get a shitload of money. That must be nice.
Yeah.
Dude, do you think we could hang with Dana White III
on a weekend?
He has already lived a life
that we couldn't comprehend, I think.
He probably has had the best life ever.
I would probably like to see his DMs, Luke.
I'm not proud that I publicly said that, but it's true.
It's definitely true, Luke.
It's not saying much in the sense that you and I both grew up as complete fucking losers,
but fair to say that the son of a billionaire, however rich Dana is,
exceedingly wealthy, has probably had a charmed life.
A charmed life. Luke, the only one who could ever
please you was in fact the son of
a preacher man, Luke. Yes.
Let's go to this. We're almost done here.
My MVP of the week is this cat, Luke.
Oh, my man
getting busy. Oh, he knew
exactly where to go. He knew what he wanted.
That looks a lot like reggie
jackson right there reggie would do that shit a hundred percent and i can't believe you don't
have the video of the cat choking out the other cat did you see that i don't know if i've seen
that but i tend i don't like too much animal abuse in here luke i prefer more like senior
citizen the cat was not the one who was getting choked was not like in serious peril or anything
like that but yeah i gotta tell you boy cats are savage little motherfuckers, aren't they?
They are.
They are a little, they are sneaky little bastards.
Luke, future wife alert of the week goes to this woman.
I don't know her name.
I don't know her age, sex, or location, Luke, for the most part.
But I know what I see in this video.
Boy, that is not suggestive at all.
Yeah.
What do they call that pint?
The Bukkake pint?
Okay, okay.
There they go.
Wow.
I never thought it would be you that would bring us under.
There we go.
Finally, Luke, you know what I'm really about at the end of the day,
not Bbls
elder abuse let's go to the pinata field luke this is one of the best clips in the history of
this show grandma about to get the fucking wood shampoo boy oh my god luke wow he broke the stick
luke dude that's what that term by the way is what that term the wood shampoo is one of my favorite ones there was a time when we got activated after
9-11 and we're like oh we might have to go do crowd control and blah blah blah blah and i was
like what does that mean he goes that might mean some motherfuckers will have to get the wood
shampoo and i was like the wood shampoo what does that mean he's like that's when you wrap a night
stick around someone else's head and i was like oh my god oh right the wood shampoo so i when i saw my all-time favorite say
boy she got the wood shampoo times 10 that one is your buddy a uh boogaloo boy or a lost boy luke
okay this is true this is years ago this is during when ob was president, he would post artwork of the Crusades on Facebook.
Yeah, that kind of guy.
Yeah, was he that guy in the strip club story
where you just left the guy?
No, that's a different guy.
That's a great story.
A different guy, yeah.
Luke, do you think anyone will ever top
what Michael Chiesa gave us on Room Service Diaries
this past week?
You can watch it now, youtube.com slash morningcon's gonna the answer is records were made to be broken bc
but that one's gonna stand for a little while because that is that is that's sort of what the
concept of what we had planned was brought to life like guess it did the very best job of bringing
that which isn't to say that all the other conversations aren't good they're great but
uh in terms of what like the direct aim was of this particular thing you know and it's tough because sometimes
we get these fighters who are in camp or they they can't train you know they got to be careful
with their diet or whatever but we got cast at just the right time so it paid off well i like
that they're different you know what i want them all to be exactly like this well yeah i've given
a choice yes but we do get different field the josh emmet one of different tones luke i can't
wait for people to watch the uriah Faber one that's going to come out.
That's got a completely different tone, all right?
It certainly does.
Listen, we've got to get a move on because I'm going to turn back into a pumpkin here
because I've got to take care of my kid.
Well, thank you for giving me the floor for two hours, Luke.
I hope we gave the people something worth taking your time for.
It's really not worth living for.
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