MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC on ESPN 37 | Rousey vs. Carano? | Usman vs. Edwards | Aldo-Dvalishvili | Ep 312

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

On Episode 312 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian break down the biggest storylines heading into UFC on ESPN 37. What fights should we be looking our for? Ronda Rousey named the one fighter she would co...me out of retirement to fight. Is there any possibility this happens? Kamaru Usman vs. Leon Edwards got an official date but that didn't stop Leon from discussing his future plans. Is Leon vs. Jorge next if Leon wins? The boys close out the main topics by discussing Khamzat Chimaev's preferred schedule and with some quick hitters. (11:00) - UFC Fight Night: Kattar vs. Emmett (41:50) - Ronda Rousey wants to fight Gina Carano in MMA (51:50) - Kamaru Usman vs. Leon Edwards (58:10) - Jose Aldo vs. Merab Dvalishvili in the works (64:30) - Quick Hitters (78:50) - Fan Submissions Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Reveille, Reveille, dogs. Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life. This is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Oh, the sounds of summer are in full swing, which if you're from my neck of the woods means mosquitoes. Hi, everybody. It's the 15th of June, 2022, and it is time for Morning Combat. I'm merely one half of your hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I'm here in the capital of Estados status of Nitos in Washington, DC, joined by the recently reclaimed King of Connecticut himself. It's Brian Campbell, Brian, fresh haircut. I see. How are you doing, bud? Yeah. Uh, fresh from the barbershop and fly from the beauty salon. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:01:39 Luke, because everybody knows that basketball courts in the summer got girls there, although I won't put your wife's name in my mouth anymore. Thank you, Will Smith. I will say, Luke, that I begrudgingly put that crown back on. I didn't earn it, right? Glover lost it, and we'll pour one out for that guy, RIP on that regard. But happy to be back. Hump Day, Luke, and we're just days away from bc and dc so you and i can you know full frontal hug each other families included and really spread the magic luke so i'm excited
Starting point is 00:02:13 should be kind of fun i'm actually pretty excited for it as well i'm excited to see what you think and what you see is it what's the plan is the plan like just museums and stuff are you guys going to do what exactly a lot A lot of walking, Luke. A lot of museums. Yeah, I mean, that's what you do in D.C., right? A lot of trendy eating. There's a lot of outdoor space, too. In fact, I'm going to say, you know what, I'll save it for off the air because I don't want to blow up your spot. But I would actually say that there's a lot of stuff you can do that's really fun outdoors.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Not just the museum, but we'll talk about that a little bit later. Dude, I want to see Ford's Theater. I want to see where JWB broke his leg jumping off that ledge. I want to see where history happened. Ford's Theater, it's just downtown.
Starting point is 00:02:57 It's not in a super historic area. It's just a historic building in a modern area. Is the tour worth it? Because I want to see if I can find Lincoln's DNAna around do you think they've cleaned it well i mean what do we got here is it still i did it years ago so i couldn't tell you what it's like i mean yeah i mean listen everything in dc is at least worth one time a go around yeah the one thing i would say is if you're going to spend some time outside you need to do some of the monuments and stuff at night at night like lincoln memorial um and the and the Jefferson Memorial right there at night is just, I mean, spectacular.
Starting point is 00:03:31 So fun for pictures, fun to see, a lot of good stuff. I told my kids, I said, Luke Thomas loves DC so much that he's tattooed the flag on his body. You're going to have to ask him to see that. And then one of them was like, is there any chance he has a weird, regrettable navel tattoo that we can ask him about? I was like, son, that's on you. If you want to play that game, you'll find out what happens. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yes, BC just loves to make things uncomfortable for others. But boy, when you return the favor, he shrivels up like you know what, in a cold pool. Like a cold dick coming out of a pool. Yeah, that's about it, Luke. All right, we actually have a fun show today. No bullshit. This UFC card this weekend is great.
Starting point is 00:04:12 We've talked about this before. When the UFC takes the fight night cards back on the road, so they're not the apex, they got to do a little bit more with it to sell the audience, and boy, did they ever. This one is fantastic, so we'll talk about that. Plus, we have a lot of sort of smaller news and notes gina carano back kind of in the news cycle some fights
Starting point is 00:04:29 falling through some fights being made we'll get to all of it so thumbs up if you're watching on youtube hit subscribe if you're watching on youtube and you haven't yet and of course if you're listening on your favorite podcast platform just give us a nice review there if you'd be so inclined and of course you can see here if you're watching on youtube the social channels on the lower third on top of that bc showtime.com or showtime is the label that pays you want to be able to watch them go to showtime.com 30-day free trial if you like it you can keep it if not you can pound sand and of course we got some merch i'm wearing some merch today you can go to morningcombat.store bc i think yours is whatots of Fight shirt? Yeah, I'm rocking this badass Boss Rootin' shirt.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You may remember him. Memorable role in Here Comes the Boom, Luke. But, you know, I'm also rocking... You've done a lot more than Here Comes the Boom. He's done a few things. But I'm also rocking this great dad hat here. Always here for you, Morty Combat merch. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:22 And I got my little MK mug, too, which is available if you would be so interested in getting one as well. You know, that's a handsome mug. I wish they made it in a little bit bigger of a size, though. They put it in, like, the shot glass coffee mug, you know? Yes, I agree. I don't, like, most people associate coffee mugs with this particular dimension, but I'm with you. I like mine a little. I like mine with some girth.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yeah, yeah. Luke likes his coffee like he likes his women, right? Mm-hmm. That's right. Dark colored and thick. That's what I like. I was going to go with light and sweet, Luke, but you can take that anywhere you want, all right?
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. All right, so there's a lot to get to there. BC, though, we have to remind folks, one of the great sponsors of this show, it's AG1. That's right, Athletic Greens. It keeps BC on the straight and narrow, does it not? It does. It does because here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It doesn't taste super healthy like in a bad way, but, boy, does it make you feel healthy. It's got that mild tropical taste. But I'm not going to lie. I look forward to starting my day each morning, one scoop, glass of water, mix it up nice. Luke, that's it. And, you know, sometimes it's not, you know, if you want to work on how you finish the day,
Starting point is 00:06:29 you better start the day the right way. And this is how I start my day each way. And look at me, Luke. Just a model of health and wellness. Unbelievable. Of course, as you know, it is just one delicious scoop. 75 vitamins and minerals. That's all you have to do.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It's not a bunch of pills. And, of course, there are probiotics in it, adaptogens, all kinds of super foods that your body needs. Yeah. And you're like, okay, this special blend of ingredients, what does it do for me? Right? No, it supports your gut health, your nervous system, your immune system, your energy recovery focus, and look, even aging, which damn, that sounds like a bold claim.
Starting point is 00:07:02 But the whole point is a lot of us, we get to this point in our life, we're not always making the best decisions. How about one little scoop with all this good ingredients? You know, it's like, is this the only green you're going to put in your diet? At least do something right. Start your day with AG1. Fair enough. And also, BC, you could take it on the road, can you not?
Starting point is 00:07:19 You take travel packs with you when we travel, right? I do. I'll be bringing those same travel packs to DC. You better believe that, brother, because I'm on the monthly plan with AG1, all right? I'll get the same package in the month, same date, every year. Oh, it's the first of the month. It's athletic greens time, right? I know that used to mean something different in your day, Luke, but it's changed,
Starting point is 00:07:37 just like I've changed my outlook and my health because of this company. Bone thugs and athletic greens. All right, BC, it's lifestyle- friendly whether you eat keto, paleo, vegan, dairy-free, or gluten-free. It contains less than one gram of sugar. No GMOs, no nasty chemicals, or artificial anything while still tasting good. Yeah, you know what I like best about it, Luke?
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Starting point is 00:09:05 You ready to go? Let's drive this shit. Let's do it. 18-wheeler. All we need is some trucker speed and a willingness to do gross things in the back cab, and we're ready, Luke, all right? All right, here we go. This weekend, the UFC is on the road, but not with a pay-per-view.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yes, of course, they're back in Texas. They're going to be in Austin. It's UFC Fight Night, Cater versus Emmett. Calvin Cater is going to be taking on Josh Emmett. First thing I want to say is, overall, I'm going to repeat it one more time. This card is phenomenal. Now, of course, what's going to happen by the time the card gets to the final conclusion? Will there be weight misses or whatever? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:37 But as it stands on paper now, it's just great. Really, really, really strong. Let's start with that main event bc calvin cater taking on josh emmett now there was a big breakdown that richard man had i want to dig into some of the details as we go on here a little bit but first things first did richard refer to himself in this story that you're referencing as dick man is that did that happen luke he did refer to himself as dick man which i can only only ascertain means he heard Morning Combat and your stupid jokes. Let me ascertain your nickname.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's Dickman. I like how he took the nickname you gave him and then turned it into, this is what dumbasses on Twitter say to me. I like that. It was a nice little switch there. But the point being is Cater and Emmett. BC, realistically, not so much because they've done great work but there's also like a little bit of a gap in terms of what's happening
Starting point is 00:10:31 at featherweight as we know ufc 276 is going to be the the trilogy between max and volkanovski we have a whole thing coming out about that but i wonder in your mind does cater versus emmet scream title contender to you? And the reason why I'm a little bit hedging it is because they both had some pretty significant losses that were not too, too long ago, including the Cater one with Max, which was a historic beating. And also, what if Max wins? Are they going to do Max Cater too? How do you assess the stakes in this one? The stakes are high. How you want to individually assess them depends on how you're looking at the top five to seven of the rankings. And let's's remind you in terms of who's fighting in this matchup
Starting point is 00:11:08 you do have number four calvin cater against number seven josh emmett luke i don't want to discount what a win could do for cater because he could have done nothing better than what he did bounce back from that max holloway loss and score an absolutely great comeback win and show you know how hungry he is and how much he's still right here despite that damaging loss. So yes, a win for Cater is huge. But correct me if I'm wrong here, Luke, but I'm looking at this even as a bigger opportunity for Emmitt,
Starting point is 00:11:35 who we know the window being, what, 35 is getting smaller, yet he's won four in a row. He bounced back from that nearly two-year layoff coming off of the damage he took in outlasting Shane Burgos, and he put together a very nice victory over Dan Ige to continue that momentum. If he beats number four, Calvin Cater,
Starting point is 00:11:54 I do think we're talking about this man with arguably the best overall tattoo game in this sport filled with awful tattoos, but obviously the chin, the punching, the wrestling, the stamina. I'm wondering if he has an opportunity here to really make a leap. Would you agree with me, Luke, that one has a slightly more higher potential upside
Starting point is 00:12:15 of what they can spin this entering this fight? Or am I just a little bit off based on maybe potentially the chemicals dumped in the water in the river that I grew up in and possibly some other factors that play. Well, you tell me because here I'm going to read you their last five fights and you tell me which one has more to gain here based on where they've been. So if you look at Josh Emmett, he has a loss to Jeremy Stevens, which was a really bad one because of the damage that it did. But then he rebounded against Johnson, then Amir Saad Bektich, then Shane Burgos, and
Starting point is 00:12:44 then more recently, Dan Ige. Conversely, if you look at the five for Calvin Cater, there's the loss to Magomed Sharapov, which I think we would both agree is somewhat controversial, but it was a fair win, but it was an interesting change of affairs there in the third. No, I mean, dude, hold on. He came on in the third. Anyone that wants to say, hey, if that was five rounds, okay, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:13:02 You know, hey, if your uncle didn't have that piece on him, he'd be your aunt. Okay, cool. But it was a three-round fight, and Zabit won it. And Zabit's also the best featherweight in the world. What else do you want from me, Luke? Is he? Is that what he is?
Starting point is 00:13:13 All right, then he beats Jeremy Stevens. Then he beats Dan Ige. Then he had that historic, that's really what it was, the loss to Holloway. But he rebounded against Giga Chikadze. And I really wonder, is that Chikadze win the best of the two wins, frankly, that either of them might have? It actually might be. I think he's gotten a little bit higher.
Starting point is 00:13:31 The rankings speak to that. I do think Emmitt has certainly less of a timetable to make this work. And also, I would agree. I think this would be a huge, huge win for him. Now, to answer the original question about the stakes, you still have Ortega and Rodriguez coming down the pike. So that seems to me like the much more likely of the two to get the title shot, especially if it's the IE. But I think Emmett could cause a lot of disruptions here.
Starting point is 00:13:52 If Volkanovski wins, Cater would be a fresh matchup. They would be, you know, in the on-deck circle or something like that. They wouldn't be next up to bat. I do like when there's a scenario, and you're right, that matchup, Ortega, it's got, are they closer to getting that when there's a scenario, and you're right, that matchup, Ortega, it's got, are they closer to getting that title shot with a win, especially looking great? More likely than not, yes. But, Luke,
Starting point is 00:14:12 they are both coming off a loss, Yair and Ortega, and I do like when the UFC sort of says, look, we have multiple fights coming up involving guys in the top five to seven or eight or whatever. Really, whoever comes through and puts forth the dominant performance could open the door and the path for them to get a shot. And I kind of like sometimes
Starting point is 00:14:29 when it's a little bit more ambiguous and open, almost like who wants it, right? Who's coming after it? So I think that's got to be in the back of the mind for both of these gentlemen that a big win here. And yes, I don't want to discount how big that Giga, Giga, Giga, How big that win over Chikadze. Giga Chikadze. Let me recover from that stroke I just had on there, Luke. I don't want to discount how great that win was. It was fantastic, so you're right.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I do think, though, you could crash the party with a big performance. The stakes are high. This is a great main event. The attention will be here. We love this frickin' division. Damn, Luke. I think that we're going to see a very manly five round main event on Saturday and I think it's going to get hairy in there bro also to be clear Josh Emmett is 37 now he turned 37 in March so he's not like you know I said 35 is he really 37 remember he missed a bunch of time after losing to Jeremy Stevens so that fight was in. He didn't come back until over a year later.
Starting point is 00:15:27 He fought twice in 2019, won both of those, fought again in 2020, won that, and then fought again against Dan Ige. By the way, the fights against Burgos and Bektich were both either fight of the night or performance of the night bonuses. So he's had a big rebound. In fact, if he wins this weekend, that's five featherweight wins in a row. And I think not all five. He KO'd Michael
Starting point is 00:15:45 Johnson and he TKO'd Bektich. But the last three would be overranked opponents. And then this one would be inside the top five. There'd be a clear escalation. I believe that's right. There'd be a clear escalation, yes, of his development. So yes, I think Josh Emmett certainly has no room for error. I mean, think about it realistically. If you're 37 and you lose here to Cater, and let's say you lose fairly, right? Like the other guy was just better on that night. That would probably dash any title hopes short of like a short notice.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Oh, we need you on a moment's notice. Could you help? Yes, he'd be relevant in that sense, but it's a bit of do or die for Josh Emmett this weekend. Fair? Very fair. Very fair. And the age update certainly does that, as does Luke, as you mentioned. Look, I mean, this guy's had two legitimately long and arduous
Starting point is 00:16:30 recoveries. One from that brutal knockout loss to Stevens that you mentioned, but Luke, that thriller against Shane Burgos can't be forgotten because of what it did to both of them. Both were willing on that night to come out and say, look, I think I'm the next title contender. I'll do whatever it takes to get past this step.
Starting point is 00:16:47 We may need to see some of that same spirit and that chutzpah coming out of Josh Emmett once more because this division, as you know, is full of hammers. And this guy, you could argue, Luke, on this four-fight win streak and the recovery from that Stevens knockout has taken the longest possible road to get there. No disrespect, obviously, to how well Cater recovered from the damage in that Max Holloway loss. Both are battle-tested, but both had to crawl through some shit to get to this point.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You know, for both of these guys, I'd love to see them come through with a spectacular performance and be in that discussion because these are two blue-collar members of this division, and I think both have really, you know, through highs and lows and lows have shown you that i don't know who has the edge i love the style contrast i love the toughness of both luke this is appointment viewing this is this is why we go you know this is why we do this shit i can't wait for this main event give me any reason not to like it you can't also one thing that sort of shows up on tape and then if you look at the the you know the win-losses,
Starting point is 00:17:46 you can kind of see it there a little bit, but Richard Mann had something that was just really, really smart about this. If you look at how many knockdowns Josh Emmett scores, he ranks ninth among active UFC fighters, right? But six of those and the eight ahead of him are all heavyweights. So the only two non-heavyweights ahead of him are Conor McGregor and Sean O'Malley.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Dude, fucking Josh Emmett can thump. He is a very, very heavy-handed guy. The stats speak to that. And in fact, listen to this little thing. I just thought this was, I mean, I didn't even realize this until you sort of pointed out. Listen to this. He has scored, talk about Josh Emmett, has scored knockdowns in seven straight fights and has landed four knockdowns against Felipe Aranches, which is tied for the second most ever landed in a UFC fight. The only two
Starting point is 00:18:36 times it was more was when Jeremy Stevens was kicking Gilbert Melendez and he kept falling. And then Forrest Pets when he beat Sam Morgan, which I watched that fight. He was hitting Sam Morgan so hard his ears were wiggling in slow motion Joe Rogan made a comment about it I thought he was going to make Sam Morgan mow his lawn it was such a beating other than that dude Josh Emmett is the guy out there putting fucking hands on people so it's not just you have two good fighters you've got a guy in Josh Emmett who is a fight ending threat and then you take a look at what Cater did to Stevens he's hardly some slouch in that department himself pretty interesting fight pretty action-oriented fight if I'm looking at it yeah and they're both gritty and there's both so
Starting point is 00:19:13 there's so much reason with the stakes to have to fight another another absolute war I mean I don't see this being dominant on one side Luke you know as much as there is that potential if someone could break through with a kind of stoppage-type win that you're like, damn, I feel like we're headed through five crazy, arduous, intense, damage-heavy rounds. These are two men that are up to the task. Luke, you did
Starting point is 00:19:38 kind of gloss over. Look, I know you like different styles of tattoos. Whose tattoos were you talking about? If a man's going to tat his ass, you're here for it. That's fine. That's your preference. But Emmett's tats are fantastic. The coloring on the light skin, Luke, they pop.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Okay. Would you give the man the respect, please? I haven't seen his tattoos in a while. I'd have to take a look. You know who had interesting tattoos by virtue of a skin condition was Scott Jorgensen. He had vitiligo, so he went from sort of a normal skin pigmentation to a very light one. Obviously, he has his skin changed color,
Starting point is 00:20:08 which is his own little, I'm sure, difficult situation. But it certainly made his tattoos pop. It certainly looked really, really interesting for that, and I think he kind of appreciated it in the end. So, yeah, tattooing skin across different hues can be difficult. All right. Kind of crazy, too, how Richard Mann shares a nickname with a star NFL quarterback, too, right, Luke?
Starting point is 00:20:26 Deshaun Watson? You're really going there? Sorry, Luke. I mean, really? Sorry. I mean, look, it's the unpredictability that really makes the joke pop. You know what I mean? It's like, wow, who brought a firework into the small room?
Starting point is 00:20:42 This is crazy. Did you bring a firework or did you bring a flatulence? Which one did you bring? I can't quite tell. There was an explosion. I'll give you that. I just don't know if it's feces or fireworks. It's feces, feces.
Starting point is 00:20:54 There you go. BC, co-main event on this card. Tremendous as well. Now, it's tremendous for different reasons. And it was supposed to happen already and there was a late fallout. But Donald Cerrone is kind of back. Boy, it's a quiet fight week for Donald Cerrone, is it not? The dude's fighting in like three days.
Starting point is 00:21:08 There's hardly any talk about it. Plus, it's the return of the long layoff of Joe LaZon. Where are you on these like, you know, old guy fights or, you know, at the end of their run-ish kind of fights? Well, you know, is there a lot of talk? Is there a lot of anticipation? I think that's the follow-up question. While we love when two old, respected, battle-tested veterans who are still kind of hanging on fight each other
Starting point is 00:21:29 because to be fair that's the best matchmaking for guys like this at this point you know you don't want to see cowboy seroney fighting a hammer climbing the ladder but because this one got delayed luke probably because seroney is what oh five and one in his last six i don't think there's a ton of anticipation, unless I'm completely misreading the room here. I'm wondering, Luke, if this is the end of days. If Cowboy Cerrone loses this, can they keep employing him? I know he's right there in so many longevity-based UFC records
Starting point is 00:22:00 alongside the likes of Jim Miller, Andrei Orlovsky, and others, but do you have high anticipation as sort of a, hey, two warriors will send you off here? Because, Luke, whoever loses is probably getting sent off. You okay with that? Well, Joe has kind of been doing his own thing for a while and was only going to come back for the right kind of fight. He has his own school in Massachusetts,
Starting point is 00:22:21 which I think takes up the majority of his time. I'm told it's doing quite well. So that's really where he's at. Remember, for folks who may not realize this, when he knocked out Jens Pulver in his UFC debut, Joe LaZon still had a full-time job as a computer programmer. And it wasn't until a few fights into his UFC career where he was able to quit and then go full-time fighting. So he's always kind of had, not one one foot out the game but irons in the fire
Starting point is 00:22:45 let's say he always had a plan for this he always had a plan for getting out of this so a loss probably would send him packing but not in some kind of you know horribly negative way here's the other part about this though bc pop quiz pop quiz how old is donald cerrone without looking i'm Without looking, I'm going to say 38. Close. 39. 39. 39 years of age at 155 pounds, man. That's old. That's really old. The record speaks for that, too.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Four of those five recent losses were by knockout, and even though he won a couple in a row before that to kind of start this, remember he had that one final stand? It was Cowboy Dad, right? You're like, oh, my God. Could this aging, battle-tested guy become a legitimate title changer? And shout out to him for having that run, Luke.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Before that run, he was getting knocked out a ton, and we were like, how much more does this guy have? So, he's one of those guys that if he's... Sam Alvey has incredible job security for a guy that loses a lot, Luke. I don't know why. Maybe he's just the perfect tester in that regard. Sometimes it happens in WWE,, Luke. I don't know why. Maybe he's just the perfect tester in that regard.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Sometimes it happens in WWE as much as you don't want to hear it. There's guys that linger because they're just good at taking on the young guys, helping them along. Do you think Cowboy could survive a loss here, Luke? Because they tend to love him in these parts. I mean, he is an ambassador in a lot of ways, but Luke, he has not been an elite fighter for a while. I think you can understand that and agree with that the last push he had was around 2018 he had lost
Starting point is 00:24:11 three in a row to Masvidal Lawler and Till and that was like peak Till so you're like okay nothing no big there rebounds against Yancy Medeiros now he did lose to Leon Edwards but it was a five round fight and Leon Edwards didn't like you know super beat him up but he clearly controlled him and beat him but then he arm bars Mike Perry he head kick KOs Alexander Hernandez that was the first fight on ESPN plus back in Brooklyn and then he beat Al Iaquinta in Canada and did so like marvelously like just completely outstruck him it was after that where things took a turn for the worst losing to Tony losing to Gaethje losing to McGgregor then pettis had the sort of draw against nico price or whatever the no contest and then he lost to alex moreno in his last contest i mean the you know if you're saying you're losing to justin and tony and connor it's like well okay that's one thing and alex moreno is a good fighter
Starting point is 00:24:57 but he's not on par with the tony's and the justins of the world and so that was a pretty clear sense that things have gone apart i think if you i think if I'll say this, BC, if he loses and gets stopped, and not like some freak like Joe LaZon flying armbar, but gets his ass whooped or something, I think UFC's going to sit him down and say it's probably time. Dude, to be fair, he's gotten his ass whooped a lot. I mean, the damage resistance is as low as it's ever been, Luke. He's always been a guy who starts slow, he can jump on.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Alex Morineau is a younger guy in his career he's just 31 he's right in the middle of his prime joe lazzan is very much towards the end so if you're losing two guys towards the end of their career as well and getting finished i think the ufc would be like we don't really know how else to make fights for you at this point if he wins this cowboy that you know you know the fight i want i want to get to a point where jim miller and cowboy serrani are tied for most ufc appearances and victories and the winner would it would essentially walk away for that however long that period lasts as you know the winningest fighter in ufc history or the most that you know i'm saying like dude if we're gonna if we're gonna
Starting point is 00:26:02 let these doves fly lu Luke, go, you know, let them go like that, right? You okay with that type of fantasy matchmaking to end the cowboy run if he wins this on Saturday? Honestly, if he gets stopped here, I would be happy to, like, and again, not in some kind of like, go get that guy, but like out of genuine concern for his later in life. I mean, dude, forget about all the injuries he's had in MMA.
Starting point is 00:26:22 How about just all the injuries he's had just living life? I mean, his quality of life at the end of there is going to be severely compromised. If he gets finished here, I would be happy to say the guy's career is, you know, he's done his best work. He's done his best work. And if you're really acknowledging that and now there's a question of like how much quality of life
Starting point is 00:26:42 you're sacrificing later in life, There's really no point to it. Dude, Cowboys, remember Cowboy fought a debuting Eddie Alvarez and he fought his heart out and won a great fight, Luke. I mean, that was a strong, technical, hard-ass performance. To me, that's the best Cowboy I've seen. I know he's got some other big names that wins. He's had a great career, but to me, I always think of that Eddie Alvarez win as when Cowboy puts it together and it's not just all about bud cans and yachts and fist fights,
Starting point is 00:27:10 the guy could fight at a near, near elite level. And he sniffed that area a few times throughout this memorable run, Luke. He certainly did. Elsewhere on this card, BC, again, it is just, I mean, top to bottom excellent. I'm going to tell you the fight that i've got my eye on uh demir ismogulov taking on guram kutateladze dude i know you're probably like gonna laugh at me for all the names here because that's what you do yeah but dude this fight might be the best one on the card how familiar are you are you with these two guys i'm gonna go with
Starting point is 00:27:40 unfamiliar as as probably the best way to sum it up, Luke. I think a lot of people are probably just like you. I think they're going to have a wake-up call after this one. So in his UFC debut, in his UFC debut, Guram Tutadaladze defeated Mateus Gamrot, even knocked him down, as a matter of fact. Gamrot had to wrestle for his life in this one, and it still wasn't enough. Here are the wins thus far for one Demir Ustmagulov.
Starting point is 00:28:06 This will be his fifth UFC fight. His four previous are as follows. He made his debut against Alex Gorgiz. I don't know who that is. He beats him. Then Joel Alvarez, the guy out of Spain who's very good. Then he beat Tiago Moises. Then he beat Rafael Alves.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And now he takes on Guram Kutateladze. Dude, these guys are absolute fucking hammers. And that dude from Georgia, Kutateladze. Dude, these guys are absolute fucking hammers. And that dude from Georgia, Kutateladze, is a beast. Indefatigable cardio. He can punch his lights out. His wrestling could be improved in certain areas, but you want to talk about two guys
Starting point is 00:28:36 who you need to pencil in for potential title contenders? Granted, it's still early. It's these two guys, for sure. Doesn't that man's last name sound like a computer generated ufc ea sports fighter it kind of sounds like a mixture of giga and uh iwan kutelaba's last name right a little bit i mean he is georgian he is georgian like the previous fighter you mentioned not kutelaba who's i think what moldovan but um but yes it's a great fight i won't belabor the
Starting point is 00:29:03 point here because if you haven't if you're not overly familiar, I won't make you pay attention. But I will ask you about Tim Means versus Kevin Holland. Now, this is an interesting one as well. Tim Means, you talk about Sam Alvey being a guy who kind of loses a lot but is still valuable. Tim Means is a guy who's actually gotten some pretty good wins, but he's a real measuring stick.
Starting point is 00:29:21 If you can't beat Tim Means, you have no hope in this division. But he's not easy to beat. So if you can beat him, you actually might go pretty far. Dude, I like this matchmaking a lot. While Kevin Holland did bounce back from that losing skid that sort of, you know, he found his ceiling. He leveled out after that hot 2020 pandemic, you know, sort of kicked the door
Starting point is 00:29:38 open. So, nice comeback win against Cowboy Oliveira, but Kevin Holland still has to show us something. Means on a three-fight win streak, is that the Dirty Bird, is that difficult out? You know, long arms, clean counter-striker, tough as nails, can handle himself on the ground. I like the
Starting point is 00:29:53 style contrast and sort of what's at stake in this one. Just like as I like, you know, anytime Joaquin Buckley's going to show up on the card, Luke, and New Manza may have been unable to secure that. Who did he go after? Darren Till and Chimaev, and they acted like they didn't know who he was, Luke?
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, they were like, we don't know who the fuck that is, yeah. Yeah, he's taking on Albert Duraev here, Luke, but Buckley, look, he has won four of five, Luke, okay? And he does spectacularly knock people out. I'm saying, even though he's got that loss to Kevin Holland
Starting point is 00:30:27 immediately after the famous knockout he had against Kasongane, I'm still thinking there's something here on Buckley Luke he hasn't done enough to show us really either direction whether he's just a flashy guy or whether there's long term potential he's shown a little bit of both but he's won more than he's lost so anytime he shows up on the card I'm interested in seeing the development because there is a lot you know explosiveness athleticism to work with i think he's just working on ironing it out a bit i don't think you're real high on new manza but you may have to start being luke because he's coming on okay i am high on him
Starting point is 00:30:57 you just kind of change the subject from the hall into a means fight but yes i am high on him i would also say i would also say the guy he's fighting, Albert Duraev, I've heard nothing but good things about. And he's got back-to-back wins over Bittencourt and then Kobylov, which again is not on the same level I think as what Buckley has done. But it's a real question of can Buckley stop the takedown or not? And if he does get taken down, to what extent does Duraev have tremendous ground and pound?
Starting point is 00:31:21 I guess we're going to have to see. But he's been extremely impressive himself. So that's a great... Dude, that's another great fight on this card. You're right. This prelim card has so many I kind of have to tune in early moments on it. You know? Yeah. So Adrian Yanez, friend of the show, I suppose, taking on Tony Kelly. He's a very good fighter, Tony Kelly, but he was
Starting point is 00:31:38 the one that called the other person a dirty Brazilian and caused the whole controversy. Yeah, it's tough when that becomes your calling card. Like, oh, that's the risen guy. I'm still trying to erase that, Luke, okay? I see that. I'm still the guy that Jon Jones said he didn't like, so believe me, I have to live that one down all the time, too.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Eddie Wineland taking on Cody Stammen is another one that's actually pretty good. I thought Eddie Wineland might be done. Cody Stammen's a really good bantamweight, but someone could get interesting. Stammen has been at a higher level and has gotten sunned a bit here. He needs to bounce back so this seems like the right matchmaking to see
Starting point is 00:32:09 exactly where he's at. But Luke, I got it circled. It's in the women's flyweight division and you know Jasmine Jazdavicious who not only has a Lithuanian sounding name but works with Faras Zahabi in the old team GSP camp and Luke, she's got a little bit of something.
Starting point is 00:32:27 You know, God is better than nothing, right? And in the color portrait world, I'm sure she believes that she's got it all. But, you know, from that victory on the Dana White Series into transitioning into full-time competition, there seems to be a long-term something there, Luke. Size, accuracy, intention. She's a good fighter. This will be another test on that
Starting point is 00:32:45 journey taking on natalia silva do you have anything to say about this matchup luke i can't believe how much you like matchbox 20 really is where i come down on this i cannot believe how much you like matchbox you know here's the thing match we haven't talked about this the amount of times you give like a counting crows or even like like a Sublime reference, I sort of get. Okay, I'm going to stand by the first three Counting Crows albums, but in particularly the first one, and be like, look, they're the 90s answer to Van Morrison. They're absolutely legit. I will not stand by Maxbox 20 the same way, Luke, because they're sort of like, you know, McDonald's drive through pop country
Starting point is 00:33:27 mixed together. But, but under the house of nostalgia, under the, let me put on a song to make it feel like it used to feel in the nineties. You can't tell me along with third eye blind, the matchbox 20 doesn't hold a piece of your heart. I'm not saying the music stands the test of time, but Luke, you put on 3AM, you put on Push, Long Day, you put on any of those jams off that Yourself or Someone Like Me album, I'm sorry, Luke, they're taking your right the fuck back to 1997.
Starting point is 00:33:59 There's nothing you can do about it. It holds up, okay? It's not great music. I went to a brand new high school in 1997 when i was 16 or 17 i don't want to go back to 1997 it's funny you would say that because i got dm'd by two different people this week saying why doesn't luke love georgia enough meaning not not the not the nation in in euro asia i'm talking about the state of georgia to put that flag on his body. Huh? And I'm like, Georgia sucks. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:34:26 yo, get in line behind India under the homelands. Lucas has been, you know, been avoiding. I mean, listen, if you,
Starting point is 00:34:32 if there's every, listen, Savannah, for example. So if you've ever been to Savannah, Georgia, you've been there. No,
Starting point is 00:34:38 it's a tremendous place. I mean, I couldn't say more good things about it. It is beautiful. Is it better than Charleston, South Carolina? Cause I hear that's a tremendous. So I would put those two neck and neck. things about it. It is beautiful. Is it better than Charleston, South Carolina? Because I hear that's tremendous.
Starting point is 00:34:48 So I would put those two neck and neck. Charleston might be a little bit better at this point, but they're very, very close. They're almost equivalent in that sense. So if you have like Charleston in your mind and how awesome that is, Savannah is right there and vice versa. So that part is true. But like, dude, most people-
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah, I love slavery history. Let's do it. No, Luke, that's- It's not even that. It's not even that, dude. It's like old French history and stuff but the the bigger part is like for me i found everything there suffocating and awful it was full of like hardcore evangelicals in my high school um you know i i just i just everything was strip malls everywhere you could go i didn't like
Starting point is 00:35:21 the life there i didn't like the people yeah I was happy to get the fuck out of Georgia. I can tell you that. It worked for Douglas Lima. It worked for TMAC. It works for a lot of people. It just didn't work for me. And I lived in Nashville, Georgia, Valdosta, Georgia, and then Marietta, Georgia. So I had a nice taste of both upper and lower Georgia.
Starting point is 00:35:39 It didn't get better no matter where you go for me. So many nice people there. If you're watching this from Georgia, you might have a great life. Good for you. It wasn't for me. Do you like, because you are a respecter of well-run, clean cities that offer a lot. Do you like Atlanta? Because I've known to enjoy Atlanta, Luke.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Like every other big city, Atlanta's got some charm. It's got some charm. But, you know, their metro system sucks. It's called Marta. It's no good. It's heavily segregated. Yeah, no, it's called marta it's no good it's heavily segregated um yeah no it's not it's not on my list of like top 10 cities i don't know if i'd put atlanta there in the united states i'll put it that way but again they've got the varsity which is a great burger chain if you
Starting point is 00:36:16 ever been there so they got that going for him shout out to russell and his wife who got married with elvis while wearing an mk sweatshirt love those love those i've said this before dude i had a teacher in high school who's we were. He looked me dead in the face and he goes, the devil created monkeys to trick man into believing into evolution. And I was like, I think I need to get the fuck out of here. I think that's what I need to do. So I did.
Starting point is 00:36:40 All right. With that out of the way. Can I tell you a true story? I don't want to break. Real quickly. Phil Haas also takes on Duran Wynn on this card. Another great fight. There was a gentleman, he's an MK fan, okay?
Starting point is 00:36:51 He's from Doha, and he goes, you know, I hear, BC, you harping all the time, Luke won't give love to India, his home nation. He won't even mention them. He's like, no, I was born in American sovereign territory. Bitch, you were inside the city limits, country limits there of India, okay? But he's like no i was born in american sovereign territory bitch you were inside the city limits of country limits there of india okay but he's from doha he's like forget forget luke ever you know representing what what what our culture brought to his life you know he said and he never did it luke he was he was like can you give me the address to the mk studios i want to send you bc traditional cutter men's headwear and i responded that's an hr
Starting point is 00:37:30 problem i responded i said look is it racist if i wear this as a tribute to doha because luke is unwilling to recognize his past if i do that on the air he said i am from this part i am this is my culture it is an honor for you to do that. Luke, you heard me. I checked the mail room when I got to the building on Monday. No headdress. What would your reaction have been, Luke? If I'm willing to honor your land.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Something between sadness and horror. Luke, it would have been done out of respect, just so you know, okay? I don't think you know how to do that for people who aren't actually American. But I don't rep that because I was like six months old when I lived there. Like, what is that? I don't know shit about that. You turned your back on them once they paid all that money to get the World Cup there, Luke?
Starting point is 00:38:18 You're like, forget this. Yeah, I'm not watching the World Cup this year either for many, many reasons. You're like, I refuse to buy stereos that weren't built in the U.S. Well, I mean, listen, the supply chains of the world make everyone somewhat morally culpable, but the World Cup this year is a unique evil. I just can't.
Starting point is 00:38:34 That is true. I mean, would you say the same about the 08 Beijing Olympics or are we going in the wrong direction here, Luke? Okay. I don't know. I didn't pay enough attention at the time. So everyone is compromised.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Everyone has something going on where they can't maintain proper standards. I'm not telling anyone else what to do. If they want to watch the World Cup, watch it, and I won't judge you for it. I'm just telling you, I remember when they were building those stadiums there and the massive amount of deaths and injuries of just outright abuse of poor people, especially from Nepal and other places, Living in these horrible sweatshop conditions. I just couldn't do it. I can't do it. Luckily for us, the only one who died in building MK
Starting point is 00:39:09 was Jay Aaron, Luke. Or at least his career. But we had a good run. Yes, but his death wasn't even noble. It was just gone. Alright. Topic number two, BC. Probably a podcast you listen to. No talk about former Golden Boy MMA star
Starting point is 00:39:24 Deron Wynn coming back against Phil Haas. That's a good fight, Luke. It's about former Golden Boy MMA star Deron Wynn coming back against Phil Haas. That's a good fight, Luke. It's a very good fight. Phil Haas has had a lot of problems, but kind of rebounded, kind of not. He's definitely improved a lot since his loss to Julian Marquez
Starting point is 00:39:34 on Dana White's Contender Series. He definitely has gotten better. And how about the curtain jerker? First fight of the night on the prelims, Kyle Dawkus against Roman Delidze. Isn't that the guy who was hanging out with Cheyenne Vlismas over in Europe there, Luke? Literally, the only reason you know who Roman DeLidze is,
Starting point is 00:39:52 is not because he's fought in the UFC a couple times or more than that even. It's just because he has a connection to Cheyenne Vlismas. That's really the only reason you know who he is. I'm just going to point that out. All right, if you're done, we can move on to topic number two. Yes, let's do that. All right, BC, on a podcast. Alright, if you're done, we can move on to topic number two. Yes, let's do that. Alright, BC, on a podcast that I am certain you subscribe to
Starting point is 00:40:08 on the Kurt Angle show, Ronda Rousey was on, and I guess she was asked, excuse me, under what condition would you ever go back to MMA? And here's what she said, quote, there's only one person I would come back for. I've said it a million times. It's not like it's something new, but
Starting point is 00:40:23 for Gina, Gina Carano. She's the reason why I got into fighting. She's the reason why I knew it was a possibility. I've said it a million times. It's not like it's something new, but for Gina, Gina Carano, she's the reason why I got into fighting. She's the reason why I knew it was a possibility. I will always be forever grateful. If she was ever like, Rhonda, I want to fight you tomorrow, 205 pounds, like whatever the hell she wants. I'm not saying she's 205 pounds. I'm sure she's very svelte. If she wanted to come into my backyard and do the Rocky thing,
Starting point is 00:40:39 or, you know, ding, ding, we can just go in the backyard, I don't care. I will fight Gina wherever she wants, even if she doesn't want to forever. Leave that offer there. It's a respect thing, not an FU thing. Not like I'm coming to get you. It's just like, hey, if you ever want to pull that card, it's there. I love her.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Thank you, Gina, for everything you've done. Level of interest on a Gina Carano-Ronda Rousey fight. Look, it's easy to rip this, and everybody is. It's sort of going like, come on, Carano's 40. She fought last, like, you you know when this was barely a sport right you know and then sort of the first major major all eyeballs on and shout out to showtime and you know cbs for being a big part of that behind the scenes strike for scott coker and company but the whole point is luke yeah i'd be interested at the end of the day because i think
Starting point is 00:41:19 this is like we're luke james tony versus randy couture, CM Punk versus Mike Jackson, like, dude, we're going to get to a point where we're going to look back at those as sort of like the same dinosaurs we see of, you know, Keith Hackney punching Joe Son in the balls 50 times in a row. Like, sort of like, I think we're, you know, Wesley Snipes versus Joe Rogan in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Like, we're not going to do that shit anymore. This is a professional operation that has ESPN and Disney behind them. but i do think this is probably the last of the mohicans in that category this would be an absolute freak fight yet i believe the mainstream would full bore attach themselves to this even even just the rousey comeback story alone from the two knockouts in the i wouldn't say disgraced exit but you know the you know went through some hard times after that and maybe didn't handle it all perfectly dude um yeah it because luke it is a they're so far past it i don't even know if carano is
Starting point is 00:42:18 interest by the way and and but they're so far past this mentally and physically that i think it would be a, I kind of have to see what it looks like. So yeah, at the end of the day, Luke, we can all act like, oh, dismiss this shit. I don't need it. Dude, we'd all be there.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Do you think the UFC would do this? They don't really do this kind of shit anymore. Would they do this? Then again, they just had Nick Diaz fight last year. What am I talking about? Dude, they had CM Punk fight not too long ago either. Of course they would do this. Here's the thing about UFC. they won't do this regularly they won't do this every year they'll do something like this every once in a while so
Starting point is 00:42:55 i absolutely believe that they would do it um it'd be stupid i tell you what you know it's kind of funny i'd actually be more interested in this if it was BKFC and the reason why is because as long as it's MMA Ronda faded or not she's a better athlete than Gina and she's certainly a much better grappler she would just have her way with her I think even if she's a little bit smaller what weight would they do what would they do like open weight would this be the first
Starting point is 00:43:18 UFC women's heavyweight fight Luke like one well you know I'm not even sure 150 ish something like that, probably. Somewhere in that. I mean, if Ronda fought 130, how high would she be willing to go? Probably around that. But she would still mop the floor with her, I'm fairly confident.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And so it wouldn't be all that fun. However, however, if it's BKFC, one, you don't have to worry about the freak show element. Dude, you're not taking two beautiful women and putting them in bare-knuckle fighting. Come on. Why not? Because they got out of fighting for separate reasons and had separately, you're not taking two beautiful women and putting them in bare-knuckle fighting. Come on. Why not? Because they got out of fighting for separate reasons and had separately impressive careers outside of the world of taking punches to the face. And now they're just going to come back and, oh, on top of that, we're going to fight bare-knuckle.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Come on, dude. They're not doing that shit. What are you talking about? They're going to come back. They're going to fight. To your point, the fight's going to last. I'm not saying that's what they're going to do. You understand that, right?
Starting point is 00:44:04 I'm simply saying I would like it more i'm saying it's not even it's not even a conversation it's the same conversation of hey would you guys be an adult movie together about a theoretical preference i would have of course i do but i'm saying it's not even it's not even they wouldn't even remotely i'm not busy are you under the impression i am suggesting this is a real possibility or i'm trying to I'm trying to gauge your things. Once again, you're questioning my question and your integrity, Luke. Look, I'll challenge your integrity every single day of the week. Yeah, I know because you're a bad faith actor when it comes to that, dude. I'm just telling you what I would like more if it were possible. And if it were possible, it would be more interesting to me
Starting point is 00:44:41 if it was BKFC versus MMA. That's it it that's all i'm saying all right i do agree with you that it would be short look i i have a hard time not comparing this to to g to mad hughes versus hoist gracie in what 2008 2007 ish when it was like yeah it was it was you know and hughes had some more in the tank of course but it was it was like, what the hell is this going to look like? You know, I think it would be that type of freak show, and I think it would end just as sort of weird and gross. To back your opinion, Rousey takes her down, and, I mean, she could put on armbars on people
Starting point is 00:45:17 who haven't been fighting in her sleep. Correct, Luke? I mean, like, you know, yes. The difference in grappling ability is significant. Gina would obviously be a little bit bigger, so that does sort of cancel out a little bit but you know if you don't think ronda has thrown people a lot bigger than her i guarantee you she has by the way is ronda back i thought where is ronda with wwe i see her sometimes back she's not back what is what's going on there do
Starting point is 00:45:39 you know she took a long break to to uh give birth and she back, I think it was last year, to mixed results. I think she came back at—or no, maybe it was WrestleMania this year. Either way, she's back at it in a—I'm not watching week to week, so I can't speak with full clarity here, but I think it's more of a part-time-ish role. But, you know, she's cringe on the mic, but, you know, physically she can go, Luke. And, dude dude how big would it be because there are there are other audiences i mean you know like as much as you want to say about karana's politics if you don't agree or that topless photo a couple years ago on
Starting point is 00:46:16 instagram um people care about her people care about the mandalorian like you know she's in isn't she in some like cowboy horror movie with cowboy serrani coming up yeah but it's ben shapiro's daily wire studios like it's it's really sad okay it's i'm saying people would care they would care a lot so how much would they care so how much would they actually care bc yes or no true or false carano versus rousey or rousey versus carano however you want to stage it does a million pay-per-view buys if promoted correctly yes my question to flip that back to to the validity of this actually being a thing is not only do you need the willingness of both women to potentially take a hard l on the
Starting point is 00:46:57 bright stage again of course and i'm sure rousey like we're saying believes that this would be you know the easiest fight she could take so probably would make sense that this is the only fight she'd come back for. I get that, but you'd have to pay them not typical UFC main event money, Luke. They're not coming back for a million. You know what I'm saying? These are stars. Rousey has maintained a level of stardom through her post-UFC vehicles that she's been a part of and
Starting point is 00:47:25 carano obviously is you know as famous in a whole in a whole different audience than she ever was originally to be fair you know or more famous in a lot of ways so she's certainly controversial that's too you would have to pay them the money that you're not willing to pay to pay john jones to fight at heavyweight right Luke I think you might be on to something there also the other way part is just an actuality right so let's say that they did book this fight they came off their pockets for like a one-time thing they did the impossible we're talking about how it would have to be promoted correctly do would Rhonda ever do a press conference would she ever like would she ever seriously put herself in a position where she had to answer unscripted
Starting point is 00:48:04 questions about the Nunes loss or about the Holly Holm loss. I don't think she would, dude. Who's doing the interview? Ramona Shelburne or who? You know what I mean? Like who's allowed to talk to her, Luke? That's the first question. Yeah, that's a good point. Could be interesting. Honestly, they might do it if they get a little, not desperate because they're not desperate, but like, what do you put the chances of something like that happening? I'm going to put it less than, I'll say 10%-ish, something like that. I have legitimate, like, what would Carano gain here, Luke? Big paycheck.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I think, here's the thing. It's like, we live in this polarized world. She punted on a Star Wars future for her values. I would say her values are somewhat ridiculous but she did i wonder if the ufc machine through this athletic contest could revive her brand revive her brand not to the people who still like her because again it got kind of split maybe to the people that lost their way with her a little bit. Yeah, I think that's fair. If she has those type of intentions to, you know, because you have to know, what is she looking at?
Starting point is 00:49:10 She looked at it like you said. She made a decision based on beliefs, and she was willing to stick by that. But she also was getting pretty far as a sort of surprise Hollywood run. She was great on The Mandalorian. Right. I mean, she was in The Fast and the Furious. She's done a lot of things post-Strikeforce, you know? And she's gotten higher
Starting point is 00:49:28 with each one. I'm not saying this Cowboy Cerrone movie is going anywhere, but you get my point. I wonder, okay, that does bring me back. If she's willing
Starting point is 00:49:36 to take a potential loss and maybe she thinks to herself, okay, I get put in an arm bar. Big deal, right? I tap, right? Yeah. Basically. Yeah, it's not it's there's there's some possibility there it seems the problem is chris cyborg is going to be pissed
Starting point is 00:49:50 off if this happens luke okay yeah right that's true that's a good point chris cyborg what the fuck bro what else do i have to do to get this you know yeah come on all right topic number three bc we have officially but they announced it on saturday we never really got around to it but it's sort of worth pointing out kamaru us Usman, it's official, versus Leon Edwards. This will be set for August 20th, UFC 278. I believe this is going to be in Salt Lake City, which is kind of funny that they're going there. But, okay, neither here nor there. So Leon spoke to, well, first of all, your reaction to them putting this fight finally together late August.
Starting point is 00:50:22 They wanted to have an international fight week. Kamaru's hand wasn't ready. Do you have a... What's your sense of anticipation around this bout? Kamaru Usman, our pound-for-pound best. Leon Edwards, certainly a very deserving, worthy contender. You can't say he's not. But they fought once before.
Starting point is 00:50:37 It wasn't especially close. Do you have a lot of feeling that this one might be different in a lot of ways? I think it'll end up being a fight that'll surprise us because we all think the same thing you said. Like, oh, yeah, I guess they kind of had to do this. I don't love it. I saw the first one. But look, they're both much different fighters. That first fight was seven years ago, right? I mean, they are much
Starting point is 00:50:54 different fighters now. My whole point of this is, look, Leon Edwards deserved this. So if he didn't get it here, Luke, if they had pushed him aside for Chumaev or for whatever flavor of the moment there, you would have to ask yourself, like, what else would that man have to do? I mean, he was willing to fight Nate Diaz, right? And he fought through the hell of the final round, and he got to this point.
Starting point is 00:51:14 The win streak's been long. I think it's the right fight to make. Salt Lake City's an interesting backdrop for it, as you mentioned. But, you know, Usman's going to be 36 really soon. Right. How many more times is he going to make that walk and um this feels like he's doing it maybe because he has to maybe you know okay do this one then we'll try to explore the big fights that you're kind of interested in but
Starting point is 00:51:35 I don't think it's going to excite anyone until it happens and then you're going to go well you know Leon Edwards is a much better fighter from that point let's see what he can do I think it's going to look a little interesting, Luke. I do. Right? Also, to your point about Kamaru's wrestling, like, you know, he's obviously a phenomenal athlete. We know how good he is.
Starting point is 00:51:52 But to your point, also being 36, and I'm sure he does still have a great motor. I would favor him to win. I'm going to favor him to win. But I do wonder, you know, he's obviously been striking a lot more. Some of that is probably because he's a lot better at it but also there's a lot of energy preservation like the wrestling style that he was incorporating early in his UFC run that is taxing as shit and that's easy to do when you're 28 not
Starting point is 00:52:15 so much easy to do when you're 35 36 I'd be curious to see exactly how much the wrestling figures into the equation here and what that might say about the present state or what's left of his championship ability absolutely and look he's the type of competitor i believe luke who's he was at a point now where it's like why do i go back to that i've already proven what i can do in wrestling i'm trying to show you that i'm the pound for pound king and one of the all-time greats i'm gonna come out here and beat this guy at what he does and if that's the case this is going to be an interesting fight luke because you know that's the case, this is going to be an interesting fight, Luke, because I don't think Edwards is going to be a huge finishing threat against him, but Edwards can win rounds with activity and technique and speed, and he's not going to be easy to pick up.
Starting point is 00:52:55 There could be some fun moments here in terms of like we were like, wow, did Kamara do enough to win that round? Will he start shooting if he needs to? These are some of the things where I think the time has made this matchup different. And I think that's going to be intriguing, even though commercially, we can't act like anyone's excited about this. They're not. Luke, be fair.
Starting point is 00:53:11 They're not. They're not. No, I don't think it has a whole lot of commercial buzz, but it's an important fight. And again, Leon Edwards has earned this twice over. You've got to give it to him. And so I understand why it's happening. Now, it is interesting, BC. Leon told Ariel Hawane on the MMA Hour, speaking about Jorge Masvidal, the whole three piece in the soda
Starting point is 00:53:28 or whatever it was, quote, when I win the belt, I'll give him the title shot. That would be a fantastic fight in the UK. Bring it back to the O2 where it happened for the title. That's what I want to do after this. I'll offer it to him. I'll offer it to him if it happens in the UK for sure. My dream scenario would be to bring it back to London and headline London. I've never gotten the opportunity to headline London. First, I was supposed to do it with Woodley. Remember, that fell out because of the pandemic. Then that got cancelled because of COVID, so I've always wanted to come back home
Starting point is 00:53:54 and do it. First of all, I would love to see a title. If he wins, he should get a title fight in London. I would very much agree with that, in part because London is just red hot for a combat sports market and also it would be a very fun, deserving for him but I gotta tell you my interest in seeing the Masvidal fight at this point is I'm not gonna say zero that's not quite right but I don't is it high on your list of priorities if if he wins the belt it's not high at all Luke it's really not it's
Starting point is 00:54:18 I feel like the window for that one kind of closed a little bit yeah I mean it did in in Masvidal's in a different spot in his career. Edwards is a better fighter by far and should be looking for more. But, you know, if he lost this fight against Usman and that money fight's available, they'd probably still make it. But, Luke, how many more UFC fights do you think Masvidal has? I know he re-signed
Starting point is 00:54:38 and maybe that was part of UFC putting him on paper for a long time, giving him job security so he doesn't go over and box Jake Paul. But, you know, how many more many more fights before i mean if he keeps matching himself huge he's going to take l's right you know does is it is sure jorge be fighting against other old guys and absolute bangers at this point i'm not sure how it struck his con the way his contract works will define the matchmaking right i mean because because if there's significantly greater financial rewards depending on how they match you, then you're going to just go for those,
Starting point is 00:55:08 especially if you're at the end of your career where you really want to maximize whatever's left. I'm going to say a handful or less, five or less, right? That sound reasonable to you? Okay, because, you know, he's a perfect candidate for BKFC. In fact, he'd be the biggest star they ever had. Oh, and, dude, their market presence in Florida, he would sell that bitch out quickly. He merge icon fighting networks with that luke you're on frozen on my
Starting point is 00:55:30 zoom screen here is this what the rest of the world's seeing i don't think i don't know uh take over i need to restart luke's live yeah there you go gonna get his restart here look at that disapproving look by luke it's like you know you could just come out with a banger of a great joke and Luke's just like, really? Really, BC? I've worked hard to retain my integrity and pronounce Israel's last name. Now, Rousey's last name, I don't give a fuck about that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:57 Right? Half the other guy's last names, but Izzy, I'm gonna nail that. No, so that's Luke. Yeah, yeah. So, there we go. There we go. Luke is back. Oh, there we go, I'm going to nail that. No, so that's Luke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there we go. There we go. Luke is back. I'm back.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I'm back. And I'm back straight up like Rakim. All right, BC, I know this one has your pants around your ankles. No, it's not two women fighting that BC has some kind of bizarre incel crush on. Instead, it's two absolute demons. Jose Aldo versus Merab dowalish wheelie i think that's how it's pronounced is in the works apparently for august 20th that would also be that ufc 278 card now there was a movement to kind of get him a title shot already based on
Starting point is 00:56:38 his winning but bc i gotta tell you go first here. I absolutely love this fight. Do you? Yes, I do. And what's awesome is that, you know, Davalos-Whealy at number six, Aldo at three. It's not that this fight was never, you know, in the universe of likely or talked about. I just don't feel like anybody was talking about it.
Starting point is 00:57:02 We were sort of linking allo's names and other avenues. Luke, this is the fight Murab needs, you know, the name he needs at this time on his resume to catapult himself into that direct title conversation. And for Aldo, it's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:57:19 you know, you want to be at this level. Could we have put you in against Dillashaw? Maybe. But I think, again, I think the fact that Aldo just fought for a title and lost badly does sort of slow down the need to speed him into one at the moment. The problem with that is you've got to beat Hammers. You know, you've got to earn your spot in the rankings. Like, they're making Jose work here. But, Luke, style contrast-wise, this is a hell of a fight dude, I mean can
Starting point is 00:57:46 Merab gas him, we saw Devalis Wheely get tuned up in the first round against, what's his name Luke? Remember that crazy fight, was that against Marlon Marash? Yeah, like you know Jose can have moments here, Jose can fit, I mean this is going to be wild and it's got so much
Starting point is 00:58:02 value to it in this title picture and I thought it was interesting that this is going to be wild, and it's got so much value to it in this title picture. And I thought it was interesting that this is the direction they went. But for a fight that I really hadn't thought about all that much, yeah, dude, appointment viewing. Like, you remember the thing I would always bring to the stag parties, right? The bag-o-porn? Yes. You know, it sounds ridiculous, right?
Starting point is 00:58:23 And you go to a good—I don't know if they do stag parties anywhere but Connecticut, but it's a fucking thing here. Like, you don't even need to know the person who has the stag party. Somebody's just like, hey, you buy a ticket for my buddy, and for 20 bucks, it's all the beer you can drink and a buffet of shady food. I mean, it's great. But, Luke, these gifts and the raffle,
Starting point is 00:58:42 there could be a PlayStation in there, there could be golf clubs, there could be, PlayStation in there. There could be golf clubs. There could be, like, box seats to the Red Sox game. But, dude, you go to the right industrial town, and you drop bag-o porn in there. It don't matter how much it costs to put that together. Those old guys will grab that shit first and then start passing it around. Then there'll be a convention in the corner of the stag hall of these guys.
Starting point is 00:59:02 You know, read. I mean, dude, this is bag-o awesome. Like, all the way. You can see the similarities. I like how some people show up to the stag hall of these guys. You know, read. I mean, dude, this is bago awesome. Like, all the way. You can see the similarities. I like how some people show up to the stag party. It's like, yo, I got box seats for the Sox game. It's like, oh, I got tickets to the floor of the Knicks. And then you show up.
Starting point is 00:59:16 You're like, I've got Captain Stabin. Who's interested? I mean, the key to making the bago porn idea work, to be honest, to be fair, is to get the most ridiculous, grossest magazines you can find, and then in obscene lettering write, in giant letters, bag-o-the-rest, Luke. Something about that, it just charms old men.
Starting point is 00:59:36 You know what I mean? Gross old men. The kind that don't know there is an internet, Luke. Those type of old men. Let me just say this. Getting back to Merab very quickly, folks may not remember this. He lost his first two UFC fights.
Starting point is 00:59:50 He lost to Frankie Saenz and Ricky Simone. Ricky Simone, obviously a very good fighter. But since then, he beat Terry Onwear, Brad Katona, Casey Kenney. This is where it starts to turn. Gustavo Lopez. And in his last three, John Dodson, Cody Stammen, who's on this card this weekend, and then Marlon Marais in the last fight.
Starting point is 01:00:06 And as you indicated, a bit of a tough first round. But, dude, he came back. Would you agree? People talk about who's got the best cardio in MMA. It's probably Merab. I've never seen someone who can have that high an amount of output that long, especially when he's using it in the way that he's scrambling and wrestling all the fucking time. He's amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:26 You like to use that term, weaponizing the cardio. This guy, he's got all the way. I mean, the way he's able to do that, I mean, look, there's certainly a few guys that are champions in the top 10 pound for pound. Usman included, who we can talk about. High motors, incredible output over five rounds, fight at a high level. But yeah, I'd like to see when this guy starts moving up to full-time five-rounders,
Starting point is 01:00:48 how much that raises him to another level. Because obviously he can wrestle. Where is his striking at? He took some damage against Marais, Luke. That's been the knock on him. His cardio is always out of this world. I really don't know if I've ever seen anything quite like it. On the other hand, you would have to agree, the rest of his game,
Starting point is 01:01:10 it's coming along in the striking department, but it's very much unpolished. Conversely, Jose is a sniper when he needs to be. So in many ways, it's a bad matchup. But if Murav can hang on and force Jose to work, could get interesting. Could get interesting. Oh, yeah. Give me that.
Starting point is 01:01:24 You know what I mean? Give me that. When is that? Where is that? August 20th. Could get interesting. Oh, yeah. Give me that. You know what I mean? Give me that. When is that? Where is that? August 20th. Salt Lake City. Same card as Leon. And again, it's in the works.
Starting point is 01:01:32 It's not signed. But it's in the works for that UFC 278 card. So it could be big. Hey, dude, by the way, just to get people excited about life, because I think you should all pause and smell the green grass once in a while. This summer into early fall for both combat sports it's from the standpoint of appointment viewing right i mean i could just name things like joshua usik to spence crawford right like i can name things like that in boxing we're like oh
Starting point is 01:01:57 okay bc's right but look the potential of all these other great matchups mixed with like is john jones going to debut fighting for the heavyweight title to close this year like there is so much damn this is i mean what what a year what a time luke we picked a great great time to launch this show and become the best thing that ever happened to combat sports fans we picked a great time right we really did i hope they appreciate that i mean when's mcgregor back name the month name name it luke please send me location when is he coming back tell me who connor mcgregor it's gonna matter oh yeah that part i'm not so sure i'm gonna guess fall to like winter to be honest with you if this year at all to be to be to be clear all right bc let's get do some quick hitters here
Starting point is 01:02:41 this is kind of interesting uh misha tate wants the Valentina Shevchenko fight. And, of course, she has to get through Lauren Murphy at UFC 276, which, as we know, is a big task. But believes she already has the blueprint to beat her. I'm going to read some of these quotes here in just a second. But as I pull it up, BC, your reaction to this news, do you agree Misha Tate, based on what you saw Tyler Santos do, would be more of a threat than perhaps you would ordinarily imagine
Starting point is 01:03:09 just sort of reading their names on paper? Yeah, like I take her saying this at face value with a little bit of a grain of salt because she said the same exact thing about wanting to come back and rematch Amanda Nunes. And even though it went very badly for her at UFC 200 to lose the title, it sounds like something to make herself confident and inflate her.
Starting point is 01:03:29 But obviously, the timing of this, after the Santos fight for Valentina, but also the Jennifer Amaya fight, to be fair, the only person at this weight class who's been able to do anything against her, it sells the potential of this fight better, Luke, for sure. I don't think it actually means all that much,
Starting point is 01:03:46 and maybe that's me discounting what I really feel this version of Tate's true value is, because part of that, Luke, is I've got to see what she looks like at 125. She was a brick coming back at 135. Can't she shed that weight or potential muscle easy without any issue? And on top of that, she's got a, a, an opponent that's hard to be great against. And Lauren Murphy, who's tough, big,
Starting point is 01:04:09 good. And just about every category at this level, not the Valentino level. I mean, that, that, that did not go well, but at this level is going to be a tough out.
Starting point is 01:04:17 So still a lot that, that Misha has got to do, but I don't know. I mean, look, could you see, do I see Misha wrestling got to do. But, I don't know. Do I see Misha wrestling so successfully
Starting point is 01:04:29 that she's in a spot to win a decision against Valentina? I still say no, Luke, and I know that there's some growing embers of people saying, hey, BC, we heard that bid. You're the third lost Sebchenko sibling. You're the older brother, right?
Starting point is 01:04:48 We're going to have to Sigmund Freud a lot of, you know, the archives of this show for sure. But, you know, the point is, you know, man, you went ham on defending Valentina in the scoring of the fight on Saturday, and you won't stop protecting this lady. Did I? I thought I was just being... I actually thought Santos had a case for it. I'm just... But also, I'm right.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Also, I'm right here, Luke. I mean, she's going to beat up Misha. But would I like that fight? Would it sell? Yes and yes, Luke, okay? This is what Misha said. Quote, the worst part is I already knew this, Tate said. Now the rest of the world knows it.
Starting point is 01:05:22 I already believe this. I didn't want Valentina to look any less indestructible. I wanted her to stay where everybody thought she was so unbeatable because I already knew I could do that. So for me, it's kind of like, ah, it's been shown. Now people are going to believe in me more to be able to do it. I didn't want that. I wanted to be the massive underdog. I wanted everybody to count me out. I wanted nobody to think Misha Tate, five years retired, two kids, coming back two and one in the UFC, would be able to take out Valentina Shevchenko. But now, I think people can see a little bit of what I've been saying
Starting point is 01:05:49 hold some water. I don't know if that benefits me, but either way, the game plan hasn't changed. Take that for what it's worth. Yeah, I mean, do you agree with me that this would, it would be a long night for Misha against Valentina? Or a short one. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's an uphill climb.
Starting point is 01:06:05 I do recognize that she could definitely make it interesting, and I do think if she got the takedown, she might be able to do something really great with it. Shevchenko has not shown herself to be a pretty dynamic scrambler. That is one thing I do think is a weakness in her game. She does have good takedown defense, and she has very good takedowns scrambling is a little weak it's a little weak relatively speaking is it fair to say that although Misha was impressive in her comeback in terms of physically in terms of like still got a mode you know still wants it I don't think she's evolved you know with the sport on the level that she might need to yeah and there also appeared to be even at Bamweight, there appeared to be a speed issue,
Starting point is 01:06:47 which might be exacerbated at 125. I'd be curious to see how that looks too. So there's a lot of questions about her. But yes, listen, I'll say this, and it's worth noting. If you beat Lauren Murphy, who I have a tremendous amount of respect for, dude, you deserve to fight somebody really special at that point. So I think if she can get it done, which, by the way, is point so i think if she can get it done
Starting point is 01:07:05 which by the way is hardly automatic but if she can get it done that would be interesting to there would be no argument against her getting it because there's not that's not a deep pool there and she's a legitimate name and that'd be a big win like lauren murphy is a very good fighter and if you can beat her then that would say a lot so luke maybe you agree with me you block people instantly and if that's what you have to do for sanity i'm not i'm not here to say so luke maybe you agree with me you block people instantly and if that's what you have to do for sanity i'm not i'm not here to say anything luke you've got you've got you've got one fifth the amount of followers and then you're like well why don't you do use twitter like i do it's like because you don't get the same i like that luke's always got that sword ready to pull just in case
Starting point is 01:07:39 he well it's always weird when people have like obviously you've got a lot more than this but it's always weird when people lecture me who've got like a thousand followers like yeah i talk to everybody it's like dude your twitter is not like mine at all so this is like the common lowest common denominator like bc you fuck chigs like come on like at the end of the day you know like so but anyway luke when people come at me in a intelligent way you know i want to take the criticism seriously people say hey bc to prove that your love of valentina whatever the root of it is whatever the source of it is is wrong is is you got the blinders on how do you score that fight for Valentina over Tyler and also score Dillashaw over Sanhagen do you think they have a point was I exposed there Luke you know what
Starting point is 01:08:23 someone asked me a very similar question and I think it's a good one. I would need to re-watch Sandhagen and Dillashaw to be sure. But it is an interesting question. People were telling me, oh, ground and pound when you have a controlled position, you're already seeing it. The Russians do a lot of it, which is true. That's a very fair point. And that Aljamain Sterling did it against, what was his last fight?
Starting point is 01:08:43 Against Peter Jan. But the reality is he did it in round two very effectively in round three He didn't do it hardly at all and still won the round which I think is fair But if you're actually giving the round to Aljamain Sterling you're giving it to him based on control You're not really giving it to him on anything else That was the majority of what he did and that was the most effective thing in that round And so I think there it needs to be just a wrecking think I'm – I keep getting emails from folks being like, if I understand your argument correctly, it's X.
Starting point is 01:09:08 And I'm like, that's not my argument. But, okay, it's a separate issue. Well, you know, I want to look at myself in the mirror and ask that man to change his ways if needed. And to be fair, you do know TJ Dillashaw is one of my guys. Look, you've got your guys, right? He's a great fighter. We know your guys.
Starting point is 01:09:24 You know my guys, right? It's TJ Dillashaw. one of my guys. Look, you've got your guys, right? We know your guys. You know my guys, right? It's TJ Dillashaw, it's Rose, JJ, and maybe a lot of more women's flyweights and strawweights. But in terms of male fighters, Luke, it's TJ, man. It's my guy. So maybe I've got my
Starting point is 01:09:39 peaky blinders on, Luke. It's possible. Alright, not a big one here. out of his July 9th fight with Cody Garbrandt that would have been a fun fight actually but um it is off uh BC where are you on Mayweather booking another bout with an exhibition bout versus Mikuru Asakura I think uh I'll pull the details up here in just a minute, in a boxing bout for Ryzen in September. Do you have a great amount of interest in this? Under the flag of cool that Mayweather can make this money and command audiences, but we're at the point where we're not really interested anymore,
Starting point is 01:10:16 could I be more interested in something like this, similar to the one he did a few years ago in Japan, than I would be like the one in Dubai against that guy no one's ever heard of who shouldn't have been in the ring with him, or him against some YouTuber who's the son of a billionaire. If that first fight was on the up and up, and the reason why I say that, Luke, is who was the guy you fought the first time around? Was it also Asakura?
Starting point is 01:10:39 It was Tenshin Natsukawa. Natsukawa, excuse me for that. The thing about that was, you either look at that in hindsight as wow dude Natsukawa took that way too serious and and you know didn't understand the size difference between them and he came running that Floyd and Floyd sent that guy to hell or you're the other 50 percent who are certain Luke that that was pro wrestling either way that's still a more entertaining reason for me to queue up an international
Starting point is 01:11:08 stream than him boxing Don Moore on a helipad. In that regard, do you believe the first fight was real? Now, it's not necessarily fair. The first time when Floyd fought, Nasikawi fought a 22-year-old kickboxer who was
Starting point is 01:11:23 two to three weight classes smaller than him with so much less experience. Was that a legitimate boxing match in your eyes, looking back? It's a legitimate. What do you mean by legitimate? Did Nasakawa go for broke and think he, you know, because he was crying afterwards, but crying out of, like, upset that he lost and said, you know, he had the same demeanor. I know this sounds crazy do you remember when um what's that the hot dog guy ko ko uh
Starting point is 01:11:51 kobayashi kobayashi um took on that bear in a hot dog eating contest it was on fox on like national television remember like fox would have like the celebrity boxing with todd bridges and then they'd have this like ridiculous show and you get real high on a couch and watch it. Dude, Kobayashi legitimately came there to beat that bear, Luke. And I don't know if you remember what happened. Kobayashi got out to an early lead, and then the bear made this large groan, and his hand, which was the size of three catcher's mitts, scooped up the whole pile and then just dropped them all in his mouth,
Starting point is 01:12:22 and he swallowed, and he won instantly. I mean, he just demolished him. Yo, Kob in the in the interview afterwards was like i'm gonna come back i'm gonna beat this guy i'm gonna prove to you i just miscalculated you know like he was like damn do you think that's what that nasakawa fight was that that guy's like i'm gonna knock out floyd mayweather i'm going for it if that's if this is on the real up and up i actually kind of like this completely under the flag of absolute bullshit. Yes. I guess in that sense, yes. Because you're going to say to yourself,
Starting point is 01:12:49 one of these days, Floyd's going to bite off just too much, right? And then you're going to have something interesting. He's always been so careful not to do that, though. That's like his calling card. Part of what Floyd is, is he's got a real keen eye for timing.
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Starting point is 01:13:46 I don't know. I will say, though, that those man versus beast things on Fox, I forget who the gymnast was, but they had a gymnast go up against an orangutan. Have you ever seen these gymnasts? They're short, but they're fucking wildly muscular, right? Strong as an ox. And he's out there stretching and doing his bit.
Starting point is 01:14:02 This orangutan looks fat as fuck, digging his finger up his butt and smelling it, you know, just doing absolute nonsense. And they had to race across these monkey bars, and the gymnast is, like, hauling ass. The orangutan is just looking at him get halfway done, and then in, like, two fucking movements just blows past him and beats him. I was like, bro, orangutans are for real. You're like, you know, he's doing the MK.
Starting point is 01:14:24 He's picking his nose, scratching his asshole while talking on a microphone. Alright, last but not least, we see Ian Gary versus Gabe Green set for UFC 276. This will be July 2nd, of course, at the Team Mobile Arena. This is going to be on the
Starting point is 01:14:39 International Fight Week card. Yeah. Ian Gary, a very hyped prospect out of Irelandland obviously training now at sanford mma high expectations for this yeah i'm looking forward to this you and i saw ian gary when we were in the gym that day to interview gilbert burns he had a phoenix suns jersey on with his name on the back of it luke and uh he seems to be putting things together so this is a very interesting fight to see his next step up the ladder. I'm into it. And Luke, can I close with one quick hitter for you? Please.
Starting point is 01:15:07 In the sport of boxing, you do know unbeaten junior middleweight contender Sebastian Fundor, correct? Yes, of course. Six foot six, looks like a praying mantis, but takes a licking and keeps on ticking. He, over Hall of Fame weekend in upstate New York, said he revealed that he could make welterweight. And in fact, he could make it without a problem. And here's his quote. If Errol Spence is looking for a real fight with a towering chance to be dethroned, I'll be there ready to go.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Any welterweight world champion can get burned by the towering inferno. Just ask. End quote end quote now you do know he's like polite as shit so he's saying that with like a smile on his face but luke a six foot six welterweight with power and a chin and ridiculously long arms dude and pencil legs errol spence would punch a hole through his stomach right but we've been saying that about everybody we're like oh this guy will fold him in half, and then he wins, bro. He keeps winning.
Starting point is 01:16:08 You think he gets beaten up on the record. Brian Campbell on the record. You think he gives Errol Spence problems? No. In the end, Errol Spence knocks him out and wins it, but I don't think it's like first time they collide, the fight's over. I think there's something there.
Starting point is 01:16:24 That's going to be interesting. Just like jermell charlo one day fighting him and by the way dude jermell charlo and uh tim zoo i believe they've agreed behind the scenes to a potential deal to avoid a purse bid like that was made a mandatory so i think we're we're legitimately on the way to seeing that fight for all four belts at 150 god god that's gonna be fun i love that one i mean i know listen i appreciate fundora and i certainly have counted him out before i wasn't sure he was gonna get it done in his last contest but i think errol spence is a completely different i think errol spence would fucking demolish him wow make him make him suffer big time also uh in in boxing trash talk uh crawford says, Bud Crawford, after he beats Spence,
Starting point is 01:17:07 if Jermell doesn't want it at 154, now he's saying he'll fight Jermall, Luke. Damn. He says a lot of things. Let's just fight Spence and we'll figure it out from there. That's what I would say. Thank you, Dad.
Starting point is 01:17:19 All right. Luke, every Wednesday at this time, and what a friggin' run. Our fans, our viewers, we've got male viewers, have been on lately, Luke. Fan submissions, morningcombat at gmail.com. Luke, I was looking back. You know David Appleton? You know him, right? The French-British? Yeah, we might as well introduce him to W. Kamau Bell right now
Starting point is 01:17:45 because a follow-up to the We Need to Talk About Cosby documentary is We Need to Talk About David Appleton. But, Luke, do you know in this calendar year, what are you, getting the Apollo hookout? Do you know in this calendar year, Luke, he also gave us that music video where Appleton played guitar but filmed four different versions and ran them at once where he's holding up pictures of like Sandusky over his face. Luke, like this guy's gone all in on trying to be our viewer of
Starting point is 01:18:15 the year, our donk of the year. Also, can I just, you're right. Also, I just want to pitch this to the production crew. I would love for that intro. I know we won't be able to hear it, but I would love for the intro to get exactly what BCc is talking about someone from the production crew make this part of the fan subs intro get the old aol you've got mail like that old jingle and then have someone at the back end of it just in like a very deep sad incel voice go viewers i would love to put that together as the intro package for fan subs please do that They should have that ready by next year, Luke. Okay? Thank you very much. Shout out to our great team. The email
Starting point is 01:18:49 address, of course, was, as I mentioned, morningcombat at gmail.com. So, I don't know, Luke, we got Danger Mouse coming up, we got JP from Nova Scotia, we got, people are coming for it right now. You know, we're doing what Dana White's doing. We're underpaying these people and they just want to so badly to show us what they can do that they're like yo i'll fight through
Starting point is 01:19:08 anything right bro you got to make these guys hungry yeah you you better make a donkey union if you want to get you know recognition and paid all right this start we'll start with sam here he says what's up fellas this is a picture of my best friend schaefer and his niece i bought schaefer an mk shirt for his birthday this year. He introduced me to your show and is the Luke Thomas to my Brian Campbell, except Pantera is my favorite band and he's not a huge metal fan and he's got a better sense of humor than me. We're both big fans of the show and just wanted to send you guys some love.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Keep doing what you're doing. Thanks for making kick ass merch. Shout out to RJ Dunkel. This is Sam. Hey, Luke, this guy in the tie-dye looks like a real dad, right? Yo, bro, you got super dad vibes there. Got the little girl a skateboard. Love to see that.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yes. He had cool clothes on, too. And the MK merch fit with it. How about that, bitches? Like you and the late Kobe Bryant, Luke. Hashtag girl dad in the house, right? I mean mean we don't have to reference dead people uh to make those claims but yeah i can do that i see dead people luke all right all right yeah all right i see hr calling you when that's what i see okay dan is here he says hi guys following the remarkable success of
Starting point is 01:20:22 my last video i'm back with a more modest offering. Oh, this is David A., right? Luke, this is Appleton, right here. He says, when I'm not going tip to tip with former female students or getting my current students drunk in my garden, I like to humiliate them by proving my intellectual superiority. Here I am rocking MK Church merch and triple chin while winning the prestigious St. John's School Chess Tournament. This photo will be seen by over 1,000 people. Absolutely none of them will check out MK, but give me points for trying. Donkingly yours, it's David A.
Starting point is 01:20:58 And Luke, he says, P.S. Could he look more British in this photo? I mean, why don't you get more sunburned, guy? Yeah, this rock lobster looks sweaty and guilty, Luke, okay? There's no question about that. He just looks like he's punched a constable at a fucking Arsenal game, doesn't he? Yeah, he looks like he just punched the clown before taking this picture. All right, Luke, P.S., he says,
Starting point is 01:21:19 the greatest documentary scene ever could be filmed at my place before UFC Paris. Brian drinking strong Belgian beer on tap in a bar opposite a prison owned by an international sex pest. What could possibly go wrong? Get over to France and make this happen, MK. Wow. Yeah, Showtime, fly us to Paris. Imagine justifying that to the heads of Paramount. You're like, what's the justification for this trip?
Starting point is 01:21:46 So here's how this works. This guy's a sex offender, and he's a fan. All right. Luke, this is a fellow from Chennai, India. Is that correct? Chennai? I think that's right. All right.
Starting point is 01:21:59 His name is Cash. He says, I flew down to Singapore for my first UFC event, and look at the donks I chose to represent for this monumental occasion. My friend and I had better seats than we thought we did, and I cannot believe that I got to see these fights for my first ever UFC event. Keep up the great work. P.S., though, none of my friends understand why I watch the show. They don't get MMA.
Starting point is 01:22:23 I did show them the clips of you guys roasting my previous fan sub from a few months ago, and they loved it. It's Cash Yap. Look at this guy, Luke. Bro, these guys are having the time of their life. Great shirt. By the way, if your first ever UFC event to be that one, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:22:40 That's good luck. That's really good. Finally, India getting the love, Luke, from one of MMA's finest. You know what I'm saying? That's right. Indeed. All right. I love that, man. That gets me fired up to see these guys out here representing us in the wild like that.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Thank you, Cash. Let's go over to Moderate Weirdo. He says, here's some catnip, Luke. Catnip farmer? I mean, I don't necessarily get the reference here, Luke. What is he trying to say? That you're a fucking weirdo, I'm guessing. All right, be cool.
Starting point is 01:23:12 All right, please. Come on. Okay. He's saying that I feed the homeless cats, Luke, okay? I mean, yeah, that's great. That's great. What, are you going to dox me after this? I mean, come on.
Starting point is 01:23:22 All right. Luke, let's go over to Andrew. Made a couple memes for the MK crew. Hope all is well with you and keep up the great work. You guys are my drive home three days a week, and I look forward to it. What does this one say, Luke? God. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I mean, I couldn't say that without getting you very upset. So thank you, Andrew, for doing that. Wow. Yes, that is fair. Yesterday, so my my pc has just had unbelievable issues oh i think i'm finally rounding the corner on fixing them though they're not fixed yet so i've had to do like jerry rigging with my other computers to make the stream work and i tried one yesterday and sure enough it didn't work and i had to fix
Starting point is 01:23:59 it on the minute and the on the fly and it everyone had a very good laugh at my expense which they typically do so yeah they do luke they do that some guy texted me i forgot where's the guy's name um like oh david at david underscore real and he's like tell luke it's just uh switch the audio input to his external mic and i mean look these are people that are like blocked by you but that doesn't make any sense for the equipment that i'm using but i'm glad that the armchair tech people are giving me now. No, but these are people that are like, sorry, I'm blocked by Luke, but I want to help him.
Starting point is 01:24:28 So they come to me. It's like, you know, I don't. That's not help. That's not the cause of the problem. The problem is I have a Zoom L8 and a ATEM Mini Pro that has to fit into the Mac desktop, and I have to use both of them to get the proper thing to work. And people telling me I have to get into the external mic
Starting point is 01:24:44 doesn't make sense. Short peg in a round hole, Luke, which is a good way to describe your love life pre-marriage. I did all right. I did all right, fucker. I wasn't there. I wasn't king shit. There was definitely dudes who did better.
Starting point is 01:24:59 I did all right, fella. I had the potential to do all right, Luke. I just have laughably comical fails along the way you know no i oh i had some motherfucking fails please believe me it's like i'm like bill buckner in that in that category luke it's great but you know all right hey here's andrew's second meme luke can you understand this yeah this is you talking about joni mitchell when no one gives a flying fuck. By the way, look, I like how the grandma is dressed cooler than the woman with those jeans. I don't know where those jeans are from, but she can fucking throw them in the trash tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Dude, oh, the 70s are so good right now. And vinyl look, oh my God, dude. It's amazing. 70s movies are actually really good. Oh, the dark neo-noirs from that run? Oh my, dude, I went on that last year. How about Enter the Dragon? Maybe the best martial arts movie ever, or at least certainly in the canon. really good oh the dark neo-noirs from that run oh my dude i went on that last dragon when maybe
Starting point is 01:25:45 the best martial arts movie ever at least certainly in the you know the the canon that post godfather run from pacino oh it's amazing luke and we're like a lot of the best james bond movies maiden i could be wrong about that i think a lot of them were made in the 70s that were pretty good look if i could do it over again i I might be born in 1960. How about that? You think that's a good life? Or maybe earlier. When do you want to come of age? When do you want to graduate high school?
Starting point is 01:26:14 Like 1970? Is that perfect? I mean, you may be in Vietnam, so I guess it's not that perfect, Luke. I wish I would have graduated high school early to mid-90s. I graduated in 96. It was pretty awesome, Luke luke all right that's when my brother graduated that's even not a class of 90s the guy that blew up my dms trying to get inside info on you in fairness he blows off my dms as well that makes will you reference that to him that i tried uh i brought it up once and he doesn't even remember it he's like i couldn't i couldn't fucking care less luke like
Starting point is 01:26:45 please just stop talking to me thank you i was like do you remember when my co-host dm'd you he's like no i'm like okay thanks uh luke jp oh we got one more from andrew all right what do we got here yeah well okay that's uh there's something to Luke. All right. No lies were told that day. No lies were told. That's fair. All right. Let's go to Jay. You know Jay, right?
Starting point is 01:27:10 Mount Unike, Nova Scotia, my Canadian brethren, JP. He says, good day, Luke, BC, MK staff, and the fans. Surprise, surprise, motherfucker. The BC King is back. Keep up the award-winning show. Luke, I hate to see this because, dude, not only did we love Glover coming into this couch, damn, we love Glover coming out of that couch,
Starting point is 01:27:33 and damn, did Glover give you a performance of a lifetime in defeat there. But you know what, Luke? Fuck it, I don't make the rules. Sorry. Who's the guy that originally retired? Apathy? Sorry. Yes, Apathy. make the rules. Sorry. Who's the guy that originally retired? Apathy? Sorry. Yes, Apathy, yes.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Willie Pep? Sorry. Steve Young? You know, you're looking at him right here. You're looking at the king, and it's good to be king. And Luke, if you come at the king, well, I'm married, so please don't do that, right? You know what I'm saying? All right.
Starting point is 01:28:03 You know, I mean, when I was brewing it up here it sounded like it would slay i was just like i got one wait i got one guys but dude that's that's every one of your jokes sometimes you know the delivery just doesn't it doesn't get there all right jp has more shit luke he says good day um i'm back again to share with all of you something i still can't believe like rose Namajunas BC shocked the world during episode 309 at 47 minutes when he told us he very well could be the long lost
Starting point is 01:28:32 Shevchenko brother similar to have you seen this shit I've spent days scouring the globe the internet highs lows and inbetweens and have found visual proof that BC is in fact the long lost Shevchenko brother. Let's see this, Luke.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Let's see this. What has he got? They just had it up for like 30 seconds. Oh, here we go. So they basically, by the way, love the Adidas tearaway pants you're wearing in the second one there. Virtually identical, Luke. I think this works.
Starting point is 01:29:01 I think they found the proof here, right? Yeah, you know what? You're mouth-breathing in the proof here, right? Yeah, you know what? You're mouth breathing in the left one, so that's definitely you. And then you're wearing bizarre attire in the second one. That's also you. Like Back to the Future, as my life went on, I was disappearing
Starting point is 01:29:15 from these photos, Luke. But yes, that's where I started. That's where I started, and that's where I'll finish, unless we actually are related. Then we've got issues there. Can we move on to god yeah wow just uh i know there's like a whole album of these yeah it's great um finally luke this guy pulls up the rear a lot it's danger mouse he says uh hi bc it's your pal again you know by now that i love to pick moments from the show for memes,
Starting point is 01:29:46 and the conversation about the Volk Max fight was just perfect for this one. You haven't even seen the big one that we're going to release here soon. Yeah. So this is what, a draw 25 or believe me. Yeah, that's so good. Believe me, yes. 49 times. Danger Mouse says, lastly, a quick one from a while ago
Starting point is 01:30:04 when Luke was talking about entrance music i've included an old friend of the show just to give luke even more pleasure oh god okay people i need walkout song suggestions paint it black song two sweet caroline is that is that pennington james look that is the pennington james with of course a shit recommendation dude are you where are you on sweet caroline i know the brits love it and they play it and they all sing along they're very singy people is it played out fucking song yeah so it's extremely played out and they've been a big breeze into that but no dude in the right setting i mean the song fucking rules at the end of the day the song rules right i mean it is what it is honestly you want my
Starting point is 01:30:47 actual opinion on this i think everyone knows it's bad and they pretend to like it i really believe that dude there's a sing-song sing in uh in uh beautiful girls my favorite movie from 1996 luke where they're in the bar good movie and there's a good like sing-along scene in there to sweet caroline and um that's why i retain a lot of love for it. Also, dude, a Neil Diamond greatest hit is like, you're not going to be not entertained, right, Luke? He had some jams, right?
Starting point is 01:31:13 You couldn't give me a ticket to a Neil Diamond concert I would attend. It'll lower your T just walking in the door. There's no question, Luke. No question. It's not like because it's played out, it doesn't mean it's a good song. So, for example, you don't watch European soccer,
Starting point is 01:31:30 but they have grossly played out Seven Nation Army. Yes. You know, doom, doom, doom. Every boxer from the UK is trying to do the same thing, too, Luke. Yeah, and it's a great song, Seven Nation Army, but it's like, okay, had enough. Please, you can move on from this. But, dude, fucking Sweet Caroline.
Starting point is 01:31:44 I'm like, dude, you know what it is is it's just an excuse for drunk people to sing aloud together that's all it is it's not like no one is sober and goes wow what a great fucking song it's just it's a party song for i think it's a celebration of cheeky of cheeky britishness right it's just a celebration of like yeah mate you know. You know, like, yeah. Like, we're like, you know, fucking glad to be here. It's just a celebration of that, Luke. Which is fine. They're very single. One thing about Europeans, they just,
Starting point is 01:32:15 big difference between American bars and European bars, and obviously all of Europe's very different, but if there's one commonality is people over in Europe love to sing in groups together. Oh, my Lord. They love to to do it so if you go to like bars especially in england you'll just i mean it's you cannot believe how common it is but okay i'd love to break out in like a real like organic flash mob of someone singing a song in a british pub luke luke i think that i like not only do i think that i could fit in in the UK, and I'm currently narrowing it down to, I think Wales is where I'm going to be from.
Starting point is 01:32:49 I think I'm going to be like somebody like me and the Calzaghees growing up in Cardiff. Sean Connery. And I think I'm Welsh material here, Luke. But my point is this. I feel like when I go there for the first time, I'll be like, I'm home. This is where I would. So, you know, that could could if you believe in the third shevchenko sibling theory they had to pass through england on the way to the states after the birth
Starting point is 01:33:12 you know to deliver there's a chance you know i caught you know that you know what i'm saying luke like you know if you're in the if you're in the stomach and your and your mom smokes you may catch that gene luke okay i may have caught a little bit of that uk and um it's more to come what was the original name of wales you know what do you what am i no i don't know luke it's on there like for example the rugby team has a or at least they used to have it on the actual rugby jersey you didn't know no simru i'm considering the geordie coast as well as a potential uh landing point, starting point, Luke.
Starting point is 01:33:46 I'm definitely not like Eddie Hearn, like Ritzy Britt, that style. Who's worse? Who's worse? Like Geordie Shore people or Jersey Shore people? Jersey all the way. All the way. Oh, yeah, they're worse? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Yeah. They're just dirt holes. I mean, they probably all are. Anyone involved in a shore, Luke, is, yeah, Pauly Shore. I mean, Pauly Shore is a dirt hole, right? Pauly Shore. Dude, if you're like, you know, if you're 25, you don't even know who Pauly Shore is, you're good. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I'll be sure. Yeah, come on. He just said that at a celebrity boxing match Gaff was telling me. I mean, come on. Although, you know, Pauly Shore, dude, he used to slay. Oh, yes. Gee, I couldn't believe how. He was like, he was the original Pete Davidson, right?
Starting point is 01:34:24 I saw Son-in-law in the theater with him and kelly kapowski in it like i was like jammed for that luke i was fired up you know i couldn't believe his resume for a guy who basically was not funny and you know as homely as a motherfucker well you know his mom was mitzi shore from the comedy store luke there's a there's a good documentary on that yes still paul, Pauly was a no talent zero. I mean, that's not true either. Oh, dude. I mean, okay. Was I with him all the way through?
Starting point is 01:34:49 That's not true. I'm being a hater. I'm being a hater. Only because you slayed. Early MTV, you know, Pauly dude bro shit. Like, that was awesome, dude. Here's one thing Pauly had that I never. Two things.
Starting point is 01:35:00 One, genuine popularity. Never had that. And two, people liked him. Dude, he, genuine popularity. Never had that. And two, people liked him. Dude, he had genuine popularity. Mikey just slid in with Biodome was awesome. I always say Biodome was like the bridge too far. That's too much Pauly Shore for me. Yeah, that's a very Mikey call right there.
Starting point is 01:35:16 I know people do love Biodome. To me, that's too much Pauly Shore. I can't get it off me afterwards. But, you know, Prime, Pauly Shore? Dude, I went to those in the theater. I'm telling you. You're like, oh, you know paulie shore is going to be in a country western one with kelly kapowski it's like where do we tell me when do where do i sign up you know like you can't act like he didn't have a moment look brendan frazier your celebrity look like also had a moment
Starting point is 01:35:36 okay brendan frazier's my celebrity i wish i looked like brendan frazier in his prime i mean i look like current brendan fraser uh okay okay hold on i'm reading these i'm gonna read you these uh poly shore films see which one you think is the best one start in the beginning all right all right well i mean the 1988 ones i don't even recognize these but the big one that first stands out is encino man he was in dude encino man is awesome okay okay son-in-law that's the one i saw in the theater with kelly kapowski it's it's it's not bad dude it's not bad in the army now that was actually kind of a big one back in the day that was pretty big look he's like you know that dude ernest there's more he's a cooler he's a
Starting point is 01:36:15 cooler ernest right you know ernest goes to camp slam dunk ernest you know that rascal pico yeah ernest yeah i mean ernest is great by the way, but Pauly's better. What was that movie you just said from Pauly Shore? Jury Duty. Jury Duty. Dude, I saw Jury Duty in the theater. That was good. I stand by that one, dude. Dude, and he was also in 1996's Playboy, The Best of Jenny McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Did he really? Did he bump uglies with Jenny McCarthy? I was in that a lot, too, back then, Luke. Yeah, right? Fuck you. See, that's the kind of shit that just drives me nuts. Let's see. What else? A Futurama he was in for a lot too back then, Luke. Yeah, right. See, that's the kind of shit that just drives me nuts. Let's see. What else?
Starting point is 01:36:47 Futurama he was in for a little while. Pauly Shore is dead in 2003. Opposite Day. See, then it goes off the rails after that. I think Biodome was the beginning of the end. Apparently, he plays Pinocchio in the upcoming Pinocchio movie. I'm sure he made a lot of money, Luke. Oh, he better have,
Starting point is 01:37:08 dude. Yeah, he was all over the place. Listen, I'm mostly just jealous about Pauly Shore because he bumped uglies with just a fucking never endless stream of tens. Dude, so did Scott Baio. That guy was like, damn, right? Yeah, but Scott Baio in his prime was a handsome dude. Pauly Shore looked like the guy who,
Starting point is 01:37:23 you know, rents you surfboards at some middle-of-nowhere shit beach. but Scott Baio in his prime was a handsome dude. Pauly Shore looked like the guy who, you know, rents you surfboards at some, you know, middle of nowhere shit beach. Fair. That's very fair, Luke.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Damn, jury duty was good. I got to go watch that again. Yeah, you go watch jury duty, motherfucker. You haven't seen any Akira Kurosawa movies. You're going,
Starting point is 01:37:40 I'm going to go watch Pauly Shore. Do I watch Ron or Son-in-Law all over again? Yeah, that's great. I just saw a thing, Luke. Yesterday was the 26th anniversary that Cable Guy was released in the theaters with Jim Carrey and Ben Stiller. Super underrated movie. I saw that opening night. Super underrated. On a date, opening night. It was a one-and-done relationship, Luke.
Starting point is 01:38:00 But that was a thing when that came out, dude. That movie was great. See see here's my move i i never i wouldn't say i went on i did not go on dates at movie theaters that would not be true but i didn't do my first or even second date at a movie theater because you can't really talk you just kind of sit there so while so it can be a crutch though if you're nervous okay i mean you know did it you do have anxiety as a teenager trying to take out a chick. You know what I mean, Luke? It's not easy. Some people just turn and slang, Luke.
Starting point is 01:38:30 It is what it is. If I could go back now, Luke. Dude, I had, this is a true story. I was with three of my fraternity brothers. This is after college, but one of them was like Luke Rockwell. One of them was like a 10 out of 10. he just couldn't he had to beat off the he had to he had to push
Starting point is 01:38:51 the women off with a fucking stick okay were you like his roadie when you would go out you you would get the runoff if you could you'd like no no not even not even you i mean he was not like my best friend in the in the fraternity but he was we were we were we were close enough but anyway the point being is this i remember one time we went out and he was living in northern virginia at the time and he was like hey come out hang out with us here because he was cool you know and he was cooler than me and so we went out and uh we went to this bar in virginia i never heard of and we got there found a place like to kind of stand next to the bar so we could just hang out and you know whatever and i was like uh someone grabbed me a beer i'm gonna head to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:39:23 and i came back i just went one, there was no line. Like, I want you to understand how long this took. And we came back, and two of my fraternity brothers are like, yo, go check this out. And he was making out with some girl. We could not have been at the bar not even 10 minutes, dude. Not possible. He already was making out.
Starting point is 01:39:41 And I was like, does he know her? Or were they, like, did they date before? He's like, no, dude, she just rolled up. And I was like, does he know her? Or were they like, did they date before? He's like, no, dude, she just rolled up. And I was like, must be nice. I like to think that while he, you know, in his prime lived a life we can only dream about, now he's probably got like gross mushrooms growing on his dong, right, Luke? Just a gross like. No, although you would imagine a guy like that would marry like a 10 out of 10.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Not quite. Not quite. But, you know, he's doing fine. So what are you going to do? Okay, thank you. Luke, I also saw American Pie on a first date. Not advised. Just the same, Luke, okay?
Starting point is 01:40:13 Not advised. Did you also turn to your date and go, suck me, beautiful? Yeah, yeah. I saw 187 on a first date. Luke, this is a bad trend going here. What the fuck is wrong with you? You're like, I went to the National Holocaust Museum
Starting point is 01:40:24 on our first date. It was just, it really set the tone. Went to a shooting gallery on the first one. Yeah, wait, wait. Hey, no, no. Hey, did that one work, BC? Is that you? Did that one work?
Starting point is 01:40:35 Yeah, I guess it did, Luke. Oh, do you like apples? I got a number. Yeah, all right, Luke. There you go. What did you and your wife do on your first date? We went to Chili's. I ordered a salad.
Starting point is 01:40:49 That shows how... You're such a fraud. Now, was I a fraud? Yes, but I was running every day. I mean, I was in shape. Yeah, then went for like a walk on like a trail, and then, you know, I texted my roommate at the time, and I was like, yo yo i just met my wife
Starting point is 01:41:06 oh right all right good for you that's pretty good that's pretty good oh listen i think the viewers have checked out at this point yeah yeah that's good thank you uh luke i will be um leaving for vacation so i'll see you in person yes this weekend um but you know maybe you'll have a fill in for me or maybe you'll do it alone. I don't know what you plan to do without me here. No, we're going to have a fill-in. We're still working out some of the details, but there will be a Friday show, and we will get folks ready for the weekend.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Can we tell people what we've put in the can that they could see soon? I think you should tell them, yes. They know that Chuck Mendenhall did visit us. We have set the stage for UFC 276 with a yet-to-be-released pre-game preview ahead of International Fight Week. You and I also, for that same card,
Starting point is 01:41:56 picked one fighter and filmed a very fun resume review. That was good, Luke. That was some good shit. Very good. And did we or did we not also film a companion watch along going back in time to max volk one and two and yes folks here we go here we go number i was there for it you know it's awesome That was number 50 for him and number 2 for me. Look, yes! First time re-watching it, but
Starting point is 01:42:27 we re-score the fights, we argue with each other, we crack some bad jokes. It's going to be a fun time for you. You're not going to want to miss this. And also, look, we got another high court that we can throw at them anytime we want. Let's just throw it at their face. We've put a lot of things into the
Starting point is 01:42:43 upload file for this month it just hasn't been out yet but those are coming so the resume review the watch along and the pregame preview are all going to be heading your way ahead of now that 276 that free throw competition we filmed in jersey city last year that that's literally i popped up in my google photos it was a year ago that's going to be like the basement tapes for bob dylan or something you are the chinese democracy album from uh from guns and roses it's's going to be like the basement tapes for Bob Dylan or something. Or the Chinese Democracy album from Guns N' Roses. It's never going to happen, Luke. Also, dude, we have acquired a lot of footage for documentary number seven.
Starting point is 01:43:14 While I do not, I argue often with Jake Vaught Amsterdam about the mindset of doing one doc that encapsulates six months of different things. I don't like that, Luke. I like doing one weekend all in, brother. Okay? We got internal issues inside the family. We got to figure them out on air. That's how I like to get down, right?
Starting point is 01:43:33 But we got a lot of good footage acquired with that being said over the last few months. A lot of different areas. I have no idea what this doc is going to look like, Luke. I mean, they went to your house. They went to my house. They went to the factory town. They put my wife on camera, so you will see her. Yeah, my wife was like, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Not even a chance. No. Yeah, well, I don't think she... Jake talked to her for like maybe five minutes, if that. It was like a handful of questions. She loved Jake, though. She loved Jake. Big Lou, too. like a handful of questions and then she loved jake though she loved jake big lou too but like jake you know jake there's something so compellingly nice and weird about jake that like
Starting point is 01:44:11 he's there and now he's in and he's here and he's just one of us and sometimes you know that leads to him hanging in your hotel room for at least 62 minutes longer than you intended but yeah you know he's endearing luke he's definitely a stray dog that you kind of admire then you're like yo I don't want to have this stray dog anymore get the fuck out you know but who doesn't like a stray dog huh you're like okay sir I gave you money because I felt bad that doesn't mean you get to live the rest of your
Starting point is 01:44:36 life with me okay you know what I mean alright are we done with the fan subs that's yeah that's it morningcombat at gmail.com get your dead wrongs ready for Friday. And yeah, man. Hey, wow. Yeah, and dude, live show is like real soon.
Starting point is 01:44:51 So if you folks can be there ahead of the July 2nd International Fight Week UFC 276 that Friday. We need to start promoting that. Next week, we need to start promoting that. Here's the plan, guys. That Friday afternoon, you're going to go to T-Mobile Arena for the official, ceremonial, unofficial, official, whatever,
Starting point is 01:45:10 ceremonial weigh-in and stare-downs. As you're walking out of the arena back to the strip, you're going to stumble upon Morning Combat. And we're going to be live, local, late-breaking. And we're going to do live DM from Donks.breaking. And we're going to do a live DM from Donks. We're going to spin a wheel, have some special guests, maybe get liquored up. Maybe even get in a drunk fight, Luke. Right?
Starting point is 01:45:36 Yes. We don't have all the details to share. But following the ceremonial weigh-ins on Friday, I think it'll be July 1st, right after the weigh-ins are over at the T-Mobile. We're going to be right near there. We'll tell you more when we have some firmed up details, but we're almost through the finish line on that. And come join us after the weigh-ins right near there. So pencil
Starting point is 01:45:54 us in post UFC 276 weigh-ins. Come hang out with BC and your boy. Yeah, man. Come be a part of our lives, okay? I will be a part of your life on Friday, BCc i can't wait to see you and your fam uh safe travels enjoy your time you know how to reach me if you have any questions and don't get mugged wow wow luke thank you very much gonna be hot as a ball sack
Starting point is 01:46:16 the day that we're gonna meet up luke so we'll uh you know i i promise i won't creep your family out and you know just expect no one in my family to respect me. Luke, that's how life works. You see, I will tell you, you know, you hang around Connecticut and smaller towns. You may not feel this. There's a decent chance we might get recognized where we're going. I've been to this place a few times and two of the times I've been there, someone spotted me and asked me, are you Luke Thomas? So, dude, I got to tell you, you know, it's very possible. So it's like another autograph and feel awkward about it.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Yeah. Do I wear the MK tie dye shirt just to basically bring that attention on? No, Luke, no. No, you don't. All right, as a reminder, Showtime. Showtime.com is the label that pays. 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it.
Starting point is 01:46:55 If not, you can bounce. Morningcombat.store is the place for merch. And as a reminder, Friday, BC will be out, but the show continues. We'll get you ready for all the weekend's fights and react to all the news. So stick around for that. I probably will also, I but the show continues. We'll get you ready for all the weekend's fights and react to all the news, so stick around for that. I probably will also, I don't know yet, I've talked to my wife about it, but I'm probably going to do a post fight show on Saturday. That's a little bit
Starting point is 01:47:11 up in the air, but I'm going to certainly try and make that happen. Because the card is that good. Alright, for Brian Campbell, anything last you want to say? No, a very good boxing match. I won't be able to preview it for you guys, but Joe Smith Jr. on Saturday bringing his lightweight heavyweight title against the two owned by Artur Beterbeev.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Maybe the winner fights B-Vol for all four belts. That's going to be worth your time Saturday night. All right, so we'll preview that as well. For Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas, as well as Showtime, Malka, and CBS Sports. This has been Morning Combat. Until next time, may all of your gains be loyal.

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