MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Paris Picks | Sergei Pavlovich | Spence-Crawford Rematch | Live Chat | Ep 484

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

On Episode 484 of Morning Kombat Brian Campbell is joined by Jed Meshew to preview UFC Paris. Serghei Pavlovich will be the backup for Jones-Stipe, Will Jon Jones take that late notice fight? Errol Spence Jr. Activated the rematch clause, is this the right decision? BC closes out the show with a live chat. (9:00) - UFC Paris Preview (42:00) - Pavlovich to Serve as Backup for Jones-Miocic (55:00) - Errol Spence Jr. Activates Rematch Clause (65:00) - Fan Questions Morning Kombat is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts.     For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Reveley, reveley, dogs. Look at us now, tip to tip. yeah we're back at it in the studio as promised. Friday, September 1st, 2023. Well, this is as good as it gets. You're looking at it, the multi-time award-winning combat sports showcase that we call Morning Combat. I'm Brian Campbell. Just one half of this incredible duo, the co-hostess with the mostest, the BBC with that BDE, that incredibly attractive beige guy whose looks have fallen on hard times. But still here, still standing, ready to bring it to you. This was supposed to be your OK Bet UFC Paris Friday regular MK show.

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You've seen him here before. Always a controversial figure. Also a doctor of law. Didn't see that coming either. MMA fighting's own Jed Meshew II is back at it. And Jed, they put this split screen up of us earlier, and I was just warning you that, you know, it's going to be a knock on your door in about 10 years,

and it's going to be old balls, and you're going to have to answer it, okay? So this is what your future is going to look like here. But welcome back, brother. Hey, you know, sorry I left my cape at home, but happy to step in, save the day. Before we get into it, BC, I have a question, an important ask of you. And it's can I take over for Luke on OK Bet this week? Because I know you're behind by a little bit.

I think we can close that gap. Wow, wow. Unfortunately, we can't officially continue the competition without Luke here just for safety and practice measures here. But I'm going to get him to that jam band concert nonetheless. And I do believe, you know, if this was pro wrestling and I brought on the evil manager, you could be my Bobby Heenan here to turn this thing around. Because at the end of the day, Jed, it does come down to your ears, your ear holes, what you're allowing in your body. Do I see my life going in that direction of, you know an abortion rock

festival no it's like you know they're like renaissance fairs i just i really try to just keep my distance you know what i mean yeah look you know cannibal corpse is for everybody i'm trying to save you i thank you thank you we can turn the franchise around right now uh jed we've uh we co-partnered by the way uh shout out to your work you do on MMA Fighting. Always a big fan of when I slide in on the BTL, the Reach Around the Links show, which is fantastic with Mike Heck. But I did join you on this, what do you call this series you got going on? Damn, They Were Hot. And you're like, you want a champion, brother. Let's do it. And I'm like, you know, I don't know if that's appropriate, but if somebody's got to fill that role, I'd do it.

So they can listen. Where do people find that? Where do you find that? I don't know. You can find it on the MMA Fighting Podcast Network. It dropped Monday this week. And you can also just go check my socials because all of my stuff is linked there. So, yeah, it was a good one.

Very good. Very good. Maybe. Maybe the greatest fighter of all time okay probably not but at least my favorite fighter let's keep it going here it's paris time one of my other favorite fighters is in the co-main in this one and was probably the biggest fight of the week but let's not overlook this main event in the homecoming and the return of conquering hero cyril gone no a guy who's coming in with a lot of questions off of this current streak of having lost two of three but also not looking amazing in that one win against Taito Iwasa where he took a

ton of damage this is a referendum this is a big moment for gone but he will be home the dangerous the rising the sort of on fire at the moment Sergei Spivak across from him Jed we're asking a lot and I think rightfully so gone Gon laid an egg against Jon Jones, similar to Aldana, similar to, you know, unfortunately the times it happens where it's just one-way traffic on the title level. Are you satisfied this week from the interviews with Ferdinand Lopez's coach and Gon speaking to the media that they got the message from what that Jones fight was, which was a scary wake-up call that there are levels to this game and for whatever reason you're leveling out.

I don't know, man. I haven't loved what I've heard from the camp this week. It's been a lot of don't worry, we got this. You know, like, yeah, we learned the lessons, but not very explicitly like what's the lesson the lesson is it just don't get taken down there has to be a substantive path to not allow that to happen because yes if you get taken down by john jones you're gonna get submitted that's the same thing that's gonna happen if sergey spivak gets you down so i i was big on

cyril gone i think he still has all the tools to kind of be one of those dudes, you know, be a guy at the table in this division moving forward. But it is going to come almost exclusively down to his ability to defensively grapple. And he's offensively grappled a lot in his UFC career. He's got a bunch of takedowns, got a couple subs. It is just going to be a, hey, what if somebody wants to put you there? And they at least know that coming into this fight very clearly, and maybe that helps them. I'm not sure, but I didn't hear a, yeah, we did nothing but drill like various takedown defenses and working off it. And that's really what I wanted to see coming into this fight with Sergey Spivak. Yeah, I didn't love the Ferdinand Lopez reaction. And I'm pulling quotes from stories on MMAfighting.com,

you know, a good website. And I'm seeing, though, where it's kind of coming across to me as Lopez saying, like, oh, yes, it turns out there was something wrong with our game plan in that fight, but don't worry. We've got to figure it out. We've got to switch. You know, like, you're right, no expressive detail. Gon has been a little bit more closer to some levels of truth.

I don't know if you're, you're pairing through Cyril Ghosn's words this week, but he's kind of, he's kind of alluding to some idea that there were things going on in his personal life that maybe hindered him from being at his best in this loss, which it should have was a big wake up call to that. And now it's 100% all in moving forward. And for a guy in his spot,

it's unfortunate if that's the case, but you got to learn that lesson sometime and sometimes the hard way. Is there a potential here for monster leveling up for gone? If that's the case, if it was really not so much about remedial takedown defense and, and, and, you know, activity on the ground and how he just kind of, I mean, he just melted under John. He just melted and the fight was over. And a lot of that's John. John's great. John's the best of all

time. Just a reminder to people. But he did, he did well in that regard. If he, if, if it's that simple to just go all in on diet, fitness, personal life, everything, he might look like a, like a million bucks on Saturdayurday here yeah and that's the thing like he he has the baseline ability to be that right and i just have no idea and honestly a lot of what i heard him say this week was like yeah john's really good that's objectively true it's very he's one of if not the greatest fighter ever but i don't think That's the lesson to take is just oh this Guy's really good it's oh I have some Things to work on because like you said right off the top

BC John Jones is not An aberration he lost to Francis Ngannou by just getting tackled a bunch And he tried Really hard to lose to Before pulling that out like this Is three fights in a row and so I don't know that we see a leveling up on Saturday,

but we need to see improvement. I don't know if he's going to make those leaps and bounds. On the other side of it, nobody really talking about Sergey Spivak, and I get why not, but here's a dude who has looked like a million dollars his last three fights, about as different as possible.

Granted, not the same level of competition, but I think Cyril Ghosn has a hard fight ahead of him, and I am hopeful that he, you know, came in prepared, but we're going to find out really quickly on Saturday. Absolutely, and that's what makes this a very good main event. And is this going to be a soft landing for Ghosn back in Paris there with the home crowd buzzing? You know, I don't know.

I don't know how that's going to affect him here but he's 33 but heavyweight's age old i mean spivak's 28 and we're almost like damn you know he can fall on his face he's a child a bunch more times if that if need to just to you know to keep getting better to sort of make whatever is going to be his run gone's in the spot where it's like it's too early to panic because it's heavyweight but it's not that early though for gone so i'm hoping for his case that there is a big bounce back here that at the very least we're seeing the best of him that whatever was getting in his way is gone he also did say this week you know we're from the from the moment they lost last time they've been doing drilling wrestling drilling ground attacks drilling drowning i don't think it's too late not to become a master, but it's never too late to level up and close out some of your, you know,

glaring deficiencies in this game. Like you mentioned, Cyril Gantz just too absurdly physical and athletic and the footwork and all of that. Like there's going to be a run. There's going to be a bigger run in him. This is not going to be an easy test, though, to get that. To update on the odds here, Jed, our friends at caesar's at the moment minus 175 for cyril gone plus 150 for spivak so back to spivak he had sort of been looking of late as

the best of this average group of parity heavyweights in the middle of the top 10 that are always there and they get hot and they get cold and they trade wins against each other. But to your point, the last three all finishes, including the submission of Derek Lewis to cap it off, seems to suggest that he could be more. From what we know, Jed, you always give it hot and honest. Is Spivak coming or going in terms of is he better than the average fair? Is he markedly better than the Tybura level, the Sakai level?

Or is this the leveling out in the end for him to find out exactly where he sits? Oh, he's coming. BC, you know, he's coming. Like you said, he's 28, man. He's 28 years old. He is a child in this weight class. You're talking about Stipe Miocic is 41 and about to fight for a belt. Jon Jones is in his mid-30s, late-30s, 35, and just won the title.

Like he has so much ahead of him, and he's already had a pretty long career. But I would say he's definitively better than the Marcin Tebura, Augusto Sakai level of fighters. And considering that he's young and has a clear skill set, look, I'm not here to tell you that Sergei Spivak is going to be a UFC champion. That does not seem likely given the top echelon guys. I mean I think Tom Aspinall is going to be a UFC champion, and I think Sergey Pavlovich certainly could be. And I think Spivak is certainly the tier below them. But we're talking about a dude like a Mark Hunt-level guy, a guy who is going to perennially be top ten for the next six, seven years,

who maybe if things break right, he gets a couple of timely wins. Or Curtis Blades, similarly. He will get to fight for a belt. years who maybe if things break right he gets a couple of timely wins or curtis blades similarly uh he he will get to fight for a belt so i i think that's why i'm really interested in this main event that's why i think zero god needs to be very cautious because he can find himself like in a pretty deep hole and given how the year has gone bc wouldn't it just be so fitting for everyone to be like john Jon Jones is amazing. Look at him dust up this dude who gave France his problems. And then in the very next fight, Cyril Kahn gets insta-tapped by Sergey Spivak, who no one cares about. It is possible.

Number two ranked is Kahn coming into this one. Spivak down to number seven. But there's a lot at stake here. Kahn is being set up to rebound big to be back is dangerous the odds are telling you there's questions he's dangerous but this is the homecoming setup main event comeback deliver there are no excuses for gone and i believe he has to know this like this is the moment where he has to repair it put it on track level up let's move forward then i guess you're right, your original equation,

it comes down to if he can keep his back off the canvas. You can't get any worse than the defensive wrestling he showed against Ngannou and Jones. Unless he's hiding some crippling injury like Dillashaw and shoulder or something, if he's back, he's going to win this. He's got to stay off the mat, but I'm going to back him. I believe in his story. I believe in his comeback.

Does he need a different trainer? Does he need to reset certain things? There's maybe a deeper long-term issue. But for this challenge right here, I'm feeling good about Gon. I don't need an okay bet to back it up. Do you echo the same confidence I have that Gon, his back will touch the canvas, but more often than not, he's going to be able to keep this fight on the feet.

And that's what he does incredibly well is control from distance and control the tenor of the fight that did. And I'm going gone in a big way. I'm going gone. I'm not going to go gone in a big way. Uh, he may get a finish because that's it. But I think, i think the thing that

people don't talk about enough as gone's biggest weakness in this weight class yes the wrestling the defensive wrestling that stands forefront from what we've seen but he is a heavyweight who is athletic and and special in so many ways he is not a heavyweight who one hit quits you and that is a really necessary part of being a successful long-term heavyweight because otherwise you are trying to be perfect for 25 minutes against every other dude who can just hit you once and you fall over and die like he needs to have a little more killer instinct in this regard i think we saw some of that with tai tui vasa and and maybe that's something he's working on,

but you mentioned it in passing. I'm not here to put this in the MK universe. Y'all don't have to stand by this. I don't think Fernan Lopez is that good a coach. I would strongly encourage Steele Gahn to move on. We saw the wonders that Francis Ngannou has become since exiting that particular organization to work with what I would consider good coaches. I think that that's really necessary. I do – I can't buy into Spivak all the way yet. Everything I look at when I say Gahn should be able to keep this upright and if he can, he's going to win because he's clearly advantaged on the feet.

His movement should be able to but statistically, BC, Gahn defends like 40 percent of takedowns and Spivak needs one or two. So I got that same feeling. I'm not picking it in a big way. I got that same feeling. I feel a lot of trepidation. I don't disregard how good Spivak is, the danger he brings, but he has hot chick in a small town vibes, you know,

big fish in a small pond where he might be the best of that second group, but I don't know. I'm not sure he's really coming for that top tier yet. I got more confidence in a guy like Alexander Volkov who's coming back in a couple weeks, putting it together and making a run despite some of the deficiencies against him. I'm not convinced yet for Spivak, so let's see if Gant can have his moment at home.

If he doesn't, we're going to have a much different conversation on the tail end of there. A very sad Parisian crowd. Yeah, that is true. Oui, oui to that. The co-main event is the fight I'm focused on. I don't know how you could follow the Rose Namajuna story. Of course you are, BC. And not be compelled.

Of course. This is not a flyweight story, right? She's moving up to 125 making – or sorry, this is not a strawweight story. This is a flyweight story. Spiritually. She's moving up and making that debut. This is an incredible fight on paper. Rose is asking a lot of herself.

But like I wrote this week on CBS Sports and it's really part of the Rose experience, if it was any other fighter who was so regularly talking about contemplating retirement or or who's so regularly on the pattern that Rose is currently on where she can look like a million bucks for three fights and then have that that moment and she's had a few of those moments she's also rebounded from those moments in the most triumphant and sort of inspirational way so when she says honestly and openly yeah the Esparza rematch was weird. I can't explain it. And, yeah, I didn't know if I wanted to continue afterwards. I'm actually not red flag at all, Jed, as a close follower of Rose's career. I'm not going full Pat Berry that there's a cycle of every four fights and that's just where we're at.

I don't know if I'll fully go there. There's no tarot cards at play in how I'm looking at this fight. But I believe she can do this, which is move up in weight, refocus after the disaster that was that rematch some, what, 16 months ago, a long time ago now, and move up against a red-hot Manon Farrow who's fighting in her home country, 5-0 in the UFC, and looks like right now to be title ready. I actually don't think it's asking too much of her.

The odds are close here. Jed, take me off of my superfan ledge. Bring me some reality. Bring me back down to earth. I'm feeling good about Rose's chances heading into this one. I'm not here to bring you down, BC. Maybe you shouldn't feel like great about it, but Rose Namuunis is a much better fighter than Manon Firo

here's the thing Manon's not very good she's not bad I'm not saying that she's bad at fighting her dimension if you fight in her style you're gonna lose right I get like she

knows how to throw volume and she is a I wrote earlier this week and I stand by the statement she's a hoss like she is a physical presence in there and that's pretty much it she throws a one two and she throws it a lot and she is just a physically imposing figure in this weight class and get you real far hell we just talked about you on and jay chick and she had more depth to her game, but a lot of her game was focused on being gigantic and physically imposing and having a solid one-two.

And like, that's kind of who Manon is, only without the natural power that Ioanni had. Which is like, that's a pretty important piece to Ioanni and Jacek working out. And so I think Groznami Yunus is a vastly superior technical fighter here. But my questions are all around what she looks like moving up to flyweight, right? Because when we saw her struggle at strawweight outside of the Esparza oddity,

like if you just write that whole fight off as something really weird, the other time she struggled was when someone could hoss her. When Wiley Zhang just would be like, all right, I'm going to get inside and roughhouse with you. Jessica Andrade throwing her on her head. Like maybe not that level of physically imposing, but she has a 10 pound natural weight advantage. And I, you know, I did the work, BC. I dove into the Instagram. I can't see any, any giant change in Rose Namu's

physique that she packed on a bunch of muscle. Yeah, she bulked up. I did not notice. I missed weigh-ins this morning, so I can't say. They both made it. I'll go with that. I think this is where

the normal red flags that might apply to fighters just don't apply to Rose. Because there's a 16-month layoff here, but I actually think this is something that helps her because it gave her a longer time to move up. She did make this decision earlier, I think, that it went public, and she started that process and really made a move. And to the UFC's credit, this is already a bottleneck, fun, suddenly deep division atop at 125. And we got this title rematch in just a couple weeks. And, I mean, Blanchfield just broke through again.

It's awesome. Yet Rose actually, the rich get richer. She fits in here perfectly. They gave her a perfect matchup where it either completely puts Faroe over on her way to a title fight, probably next if she wins in any form. And just the flip side if rose wins this especially if shevchenko wins back the belt suddenly you've got this you know champ versus former champ matchup there's a lot at stake here but the time the fact that rose is just that unique someone who's so

honest but also like i said somebody who can recoil rebound if it's not her night it's not her night jet and that seems to be the history i history. I mean, she either laid an egg or was flat in some really key step-up opportunities. People forget that loss in Atlanta at 201 against Carolina that she probably would have gotten a title shot but came up just short in a split decision. She does rise to the occasion, though, better than anybody, and I do agree with you.

If this is kind of the right opponent that still plays potentially to Rose's strengths, and I caught up with her this week on Morning Combat you can watch the the interview at full at youtube.com slash morning combat and she did tell me she feels healthier at this weight she feels stronger and she even believes she's faster and you know we've seen it before especially somebody who was big for a weight class before like a Kiesa they move up and suddenly it's just they're free and they're they're suddenly look like the biggest fighter in that weight class that could be the case here um but i caught up with rose and asked her about that decision how far in the making was it and uh how pumped she is about making this let's listen in

i guess originally i got the idea when i you know wrote like this is early on in my career when I wrote down, you know, goals for myself, like become the champion, do this, buy a house, you know, blah, blah, blah. And then like on the last of my goal list was to become two division champion. And so, yeah, I didn't really know how in my mind, even though I made that as a goal, I wrote it down. I was kind of like, question mark, you know what I mean? as a goal I wrote it down I was kind of like question mark you know what I mean like because I'm like I don't know you know I mean that's so that was that was so long ago and I didn't know what you know this whole journey was going to look like getting to this point but um here we are and um yeah and then I think during my second title reign as I started to get a little heavier and, um, and as I started

to like, uh, really like accomplish some things in my life and stuff. And with the career that it was like, kind of, all right, this, this could potentially be, you know, on the horizon, but, um, there's also a lot of different factors, you know, there was, there's also times where it was like, you know, there's times where it's like, ah, do I still want to do this? You know? where it was like, you know, there's times where it's like, do I still want to do this? You know, it's like, of course I do. You know what I mean? Back and forth. Right.

So but yeah, after that last fight, it was like, I think that's the move because it was just like kind of a perfect storm of like, you know, me getting bigger. And then kind of like this is sort of the last thing that I kind of want to do. Jed, always very open and honest. And I think I connect with her story so much because she's so willing to sort of always show the fact that we all deal with real human emotions and question ourselves and all that. Yet she's able to, in front of our eyes, pick it up and put it back together and figure out again how to be great, how to be the mother effing best. Can she still find another lane in a new division? And will her skills carry up with her against Faroe or against anybody? Is this a run at 125 that you think could be very big and quickly to the title level here for Rose? Yeah, absolutely. The question with Rose is not ability.

She has as much of that as just about anybody competing in the women's divisions today it it's entirely between the years like the the only she even admits like that this was a fight was awful doesn't know what happened and she's just prone to that she is very mercurial in in that sort of way and so that's why i say like i wouldn't be confident she's going to beat manolfiro because I don't know if she's going to show up and just might be like, yo, I'm not feeling it today. And that will be a tough night at the office for her. But if she is actually dialed in, if that 16 months off was like, hey, I spent my time on the farm. I'm ready to get back after this and pursue greatness and get a second belt, et cetera. I think she has a really good chance to do it.

I don't think she's going to hold the belt. I believe Erin Blanchfield is the best flyweight on earth and it is just a matter of time until she holds that belt forever. But I think Rose stacks up well to win this fight if she's dialed in and similarly well to beat alexa grosso she's dialed in valentina shevchenko i think she's 50 50 proposition against shevchenko great fight if that's like the people she's looking at yeah yeah it's terrific fight so i think she's got a really good chance to to do that it is entirely if she is focused on on the mission ahead and not distracted or just has an off night it's it's crazy it's like i've never seen an athlete at the highest level like here's here's a comparison if you watch

old documentaries and they're talking about the john wooden ucla dynasty that you know one of the the wooden quirks was always they never actually prepared for the opponent they never scouted the opponent and it was always always only about preparing themselves to be the very best and that's sort of this ideal zen philosophy that nothing else matters but myself. But like yet we all can relate to Rose because we all get in our own way constantly. I don't think I've ever seen an athlete at this level in a singular sport where it is so dependent upon the personal battle with herself. And if everything's good, she's one of the greatest that's ever done this.

So on any given night and yes especially against ferro you got to like her chances but there are there are questions so that fuels the odds caesar's currently minus 190 ferro rose at plus 160 so uh big fight either winner is gonna love that underdog bc love that love that rose dog Love that Rose dog pick, by the way, right there. I don't know. She's going to have to be busy in that first round, though. With just three rounds to play here, I don't think you can let Farrell get off and establish yourself.

You've got to – that Rose jab into that left hook has got to be big here. You know what I'm saying? Then we'll see what she can do on the ground. But I want to give – I think she's got to hit her. Just punch her in the face. I don't know. We haven't really seen Manon get punched hard, and she can do on the ground. But I want to give – I think she's got to hit her. Just punch her in the face. I don't know. We haven't really seen Manon get like punched hard and Rose can do that.

And I would very much just like to see how Manon reacts when she is not dictating the fight entirely, which I think Rose can do. So yeah. And I can't – look, you're the master of the clean, hard, hot take where I have to go, you know, I may not agree with that, but I sure respect it. It's hard for me to push against anything you said about, hey, this division is so fun and it's great, but it's Blanchfield's division. You know, as soon as they give her that chance. She's going to roll these women. I mean, I did question, you know, how good Blanchfield really was because I know how good Tyler Santos was. Well, Blanchell passed that test. She passed it, you know, very,

and I actually, I prefer that she passed it facing adversity because we got to see more of her character. But it will be interesting because this could be Grasso's era for all we know. Shevchenko's favored to win back the belt. We have no idea at this moment, is Rose a monster threat

or is this just more of a fun ceremonial run? Faroe may do Faroe things. I mean, it's fun. Faroe could beat Grasso. I don't think she can beat Shevchenko. I think she could beat Grasso. I think so too if she fought her fight in that regard. Elsewhere on this card, I mean, what do you say about this month in general?

We have this card, which is like really good but not great. Then you got UFC 293, which is just not great at all. And then you got Noche, which is pretty damn good for an in-between free fight night card that's probably better than the pay-per-view before it. Are you satisfied with what we're getting here in France? It does feel like a big deal, but it's also not deep. No, this is – look, it's greedy to ask for a lot more.

August and July were pretty strong, right? Like the summer run for the UFC, there were duds in there. I'm not here to say that everything was a winner, but they were pretty good. This Paris card is very, very mediocre to bad. It's a three-fight card. The top three fights are really good and there's maybe some interest in the rest of it. But outside of that, there's nothing much going on. 293 is garbage. It is a half a fight card depending on how much you care about the main event.

That's it. And so September is – it's a down month. Like Noche, the main event is fun. There are a couple other fights or potential fights. Like I don't know if Shavkat's still going to fight on that card. That card looked great on paper a month ago, and we've had some fallout, so we'll see how that ends up shaking down. But look, not every month's going to be great,

and we're coming off a very strong summer, so I'm open to giving the UFC a pass on this just being a largely spin-your-wheels kind of month. All right. As Luke Thomas once said, a smash pass. I think he was talking about wrestling, but I was talking more about open marriages. And did you see that Sean O'Malley revealed that Vitor Belfort took issue with his King of the Castle comments and said he'll kick his ass. I don't know, to defend the sanctity of marriage? I don't know. That's interesting.

That's interesting. I didn't see that. Good. Everyone with a functioning cerebral cortex should take issue with Sean O'Malley's comments. Good to know that Vitor doesn't have that much CTE. Okay, all right. You're going to turn some listeners off with that type of direct abject honesty. When it comes to the rest of this card, though, I mean, look,

Benoit Saint-Denis, that delivery. That's a 3-5 card, baby. Isn't that silk? That was like silk right there, that delivery. He's taking on Thiago Moises. Are you getting like Tom Ducanois vibes as like the next French hot thing that's coming on? I mean, Tom was unable to, you know, put it all together in the end. But he was my boy for a short season.

So was Doohu Choi. I really thought Korean Superboy was going to take over the world. You know, I also got caught thinking that my guy at Featherweight, too, Zabit, was going to be the greatest fighter ever. Sometimes, you know, you can't pick who you love. They pick you in the end. You know what I'm saying? So how good is BSD? In your defense, two of the people you listed retired for really no reason while still being very good.

Duke and Wah was like 11-1 or something. It was great. And it was just like, no, no i'm gonna go do something that's better monetarily for me and sabit's a doctor now i mean troy was in some wars troy troy brought i mean he some gave some i mean he gave all i mean let's be honest you know yeah korean superboy is awesome so i think it's fine to have been those are three very explicable bandwagons to have joined uh well just unlucky that two of them retired. I just follow my heart and sometimes it misleads me.

Is BSD coming on right now? What do you got? Yeah, I really like him. I mean he's just one of those dudes who can kind of do everything and do it pretty well. His last fight against Ishmael Bonfim i'd say the the lesser of the bonfim brothers but i don't remember if he's a betting underdog i feel like he was i mean he looked awesome just whipping kicks to the body and then he has a very predatory ground game he's great in scrambles great with transitions i think that that's what i love this fight i on the merits

of the fight itself i think benoit sandiniagamoises is the most fun in cage product because the main event is a yes-no question. Can Cyril Gondifin take down is going to win? OK. The co-main event feels – it has like maybe two questions. But it's, hey, is Rose focused and is this weight change going to adversely affect her? And if not, I think she should win. That's not a two-question fight. That fight's the fight of the weekend, so why don't you

just bite your own tongue there, alright? Please. It's the fight of the weekend as like, this is the one that matters the most and is a good competitive matchup. But the fight that's going to be the most fun is Benoit-Santi-Tagamoises. If these two get to scrambling, it is

going to be wild. You're a boxing guy, so you don't care. And that's probably why you're not appreciating this. But Luke, if he was here, he would be like, yeah, the scrambles in this are going to be sick. And if not, they're both like competent kickboxers. Both kick a lot, throw a lot of heat. Like, this fight's going to be incredibly fun. I think Benoit Sandinis is on the ascension, and so I'm picking him to win, but

Tiago Moises has been really good for a really long time, like a top 20-ish lightweight, and it's impossible to be a top 20 lightweight in the world, so you've got to give that man his due. You're still on this vibe that lightweight's still the best division in the sport. It is. Either way, you just

popped the back room with the last rank. Congratulations. BSD, minus 160, plus 135. Moises, you just popped the back room with the last rank. Congratulations. BSD minus 160 plus 135. Moises. Look, I still kind of care about – I still have time for no time, Vulcan. Ozdemir. I still kind of care if there's something there. Here's the deal. He's only 33.

But, you know, he swings big. He's won big. He's lost disastrously. He's currently lost three of four. There's only one knockout in there, and that was to Prochaska, and it was absolute war, and it was one of the most brutal KOs of all time. But there is some element here of Volkan trying to hang on to his job and his placement in general.

He's undefeated in Fort Lauderdale bars, just for the record. I don't know why that joke. It's not working. It's not landing anymore, yet I'm still Sully Sullenberg in there trying to be a hero. Bogdan Guskov is not a household name, but if you look him up, if you go to the SureDog page, if you look at the recent results, this guy's an absolute terror globally in terms of K01. He's a hammer.

So is this get well, Vol-Ostomir or is this we're going to use you one more time to put over the new hammer that who has arrived? I'm really happy that I actually studied this week because I don't think Bogdan is good at fighting. You are correct. He has just been

blowing the doors off people and they're all bad. Everybody he's blowing the doors off is not very good and so that's that's important if you're gonna fight somebody bad you should impress and he's doing that but like if you just watch him uh i was talking about this with the podcast earlier this week he's like some some of i don't i don't have the words for some of fight breakdown stuff i'm just like you can just look at somebody and know if they have it or not. You can just watch the way they move and like,

okay, that guy is moving differently. That's, Bogdan's just, he's just a dude. He is just another guy. Volkan, Volkan's lost a lot. I'm not here to refute that. He's a former title challenger. Could you put some respect back on his name, okay? Yeah, former title challenger. He you put some respect back on his name, okay? Yeah, former title challenger.

He's lost to really good dudes. Nikita Krylov never is very underrated, like a really, really solid top-to-bottom fighter. Magruder Nikolaev is probably the actual best light heavyweight in the world, and Yuri Prohazhka is the best light heavyweight in the world by name. So, like, that's three pretty decent losses. I mean, Demkoff's pretty good, too. Just before that

what nemcoff the heavyweight he's pretty he's a pretty damn good light heavyweight oh yeah yeah yeah but you know but right before the prahashka lost too he beat alexander rakic who's like a top five dude like fulkin still has ability i don't think he's ever going to be a champion but he is only 33, so who the hell knows? Glover became champion at 45, whatever the hell he did. So it's possible. Is light heavyweight becoming the same reputation of heavyweight where age doesn't matter and it is possible to like completely – not only reinvent yourself, which Glover did, but Glover also – just it was really the consistency over the long log glover never really got awful yet he suffered like violent ko losses

really like okay maybe this is the beginning of the end but um does age matter anymore at 205 i mean dc was the champion at an advanced age a different story but you get it you get it yeah uh it probably still matters some but yeah it's like heavyweight and heavyweight for all intents and purposes are the same weight class. Like there are like six good fighters in each of them and the rest of it is a medley of mediocrity. So you can thrive if you are good, you can certainly thrive for a very long time. Uh, and look, if Vulcan, it, it wouldn't shock me if Vulcan kept fighting for another seven years. Like it seems entirely possible. Again, I don't think he's going to get the belt, but he's, he is, has proven himself to be a good fighter. And, uh, Bogdan Guskov has very much not proven that to me. So I still believe that there's no time like the present for no time. Wow.

HTK, the hot take kid, Jed Mishu, back on it and slinging it. One more piece of business to get to on the MMA side, interested to hear it out. It seems Sergey Pavlovich is going to serve as the backup for the Madison Square Garden November heavyweight, you know, history at stake showdown, the greatest heavyweight champion in UFC history, Stipe Miocic, against the greatest showdown, the greatest heavyweight champion in UFC history, Stipe Miocic against the greatest fighter in Jon Jones and the current champion.

So Jed, if this is true as it goes down and Pavlovich is, is the break glass in case of emergency, does this mean then if Stipe gets COVID the day of the fight, Jon Jones has to fight Pavlovich under these circumstances? I mean, this is a, there's, this is a pretty, you know, when, when, when Dan Quayle was the vice president, right? They were, they were a little bit nervous, you know, if something happened to, uh, to big Bush, right? You know what I mean? Uh, that, you know, would, would, would they be in good hands there? Um, you think Jones would accept this situation and fight Sergey Pavlovich under these terms?

No, that's not a hot, this isn't even a hot take. We've seen him say no. This man refused to fight Chael Sonnen on like a week's notice. He's Chael Sonnen, Chael Sonnen. There was the Dan Henderson situation too, right? Is that UFC 152? Yeah, it was supposed to be Dan Henderson. Dan pulled out and he was like, I'm not fighting Shale Sutton.

And he fought him a month later and beat the brakes off him and should have just fought him because it was a whole thing. We did a damn They Were Good episode on UFC 151 actually because it was an insane thing that happened and he caused all this drama and totally respect it. Like you're preparing for one dude as a professional athlete that makes sense but at the same time there's no risk to fighting chael sunning what's he gonna do bleed on you there's nothing that could happen so there's no chance he's gonna turn down chael peace on short notice up a weight class depends on the venue. If that was held at a hallway at the Luxor after hours, you know, all bets are off indeed on that point. It's interesting because like we want fighters to have more of a say and be more well-respected at like the negotiation table and fighter advocacy and rights and all that. And it's true.

I mean it's a big part of this era of the ufc and simultaneously mma's history on on year 30 so should we support more when people do the wonder boy thing just then of not wanting to fight michelle pade after missing way but also not getting his show money but maybe you know maybe he's in a spot where that's not gonna make or break him but he took a strategic decision you don't always see that because the ufc hates it and most guys don't have the leverage or the backbone to do what jones did and jones became a villain in the ufc's eyes after refusing to fight shale in the scenario that you're mentioning should we support decisions if that would like normally this would never be a conversation of if the you know if the fight

falls apart will the champion still face the replacement? And it's not as if this is Jon fully on record saying he wouldn't, but you're okay with that in this type of scenario where the champion should be able to protect the house and say, no, I didn't prepare for that guy. Book me again down the road. I mean we should support Jon fully if we care about fighters having a say in their own dangerous journey here. Yeah, 100%.

Like you're signed on to fight some dude under the, like, I want to fight this dude at this time under these circumstances, and you agree to it, and then shuffle in the deck a week, a month before. It's just not the same. I would fully support him. The UFC would not, and a good portion of the fan base would be furious. But I particularly support him because Sergey Pavlovich is in no way the same fighter as steep and miyajich like it's just a hugely different like i still thought it was totally fine for him to turn down chael sunnen there is at

least a part of my brain can wrap around the idea that well going from dan henderson to chael sunnen is like fighting a tiger but then you've removed the claws because you no longer even have to worry about the H-bomb. You're fighting bad Dan Henderson. So it's fine. Like this is – this would not be the same. Instead of fighting old Stipe, you're fighting a dude who as far as I can tell actually possesses a nuclear weapon in both of his fists. It's true. Because he touches people and they die

like i don't he's not even hitting them that hard like he's not swinging hard and they are melting so yeah i would for sure be like i don't know don't want to fight that dude he's got really good timing and if he touches me i'll fall over and die so i think it would totally make sense i also think on the other side of it, if John pulls out for whatever reason, it seems really unlikely that Stipe would take this, and I totally support it, which means the UFC needs to have a really strong co-main event because this, announcing Sergey as the backup, this is a ceremonial backup fighter role. He's just the dude they've anointed as next in line,

and that's totally fine, but we should all go into this with eyes wide open. Wow. Wow. All right. Let's have an eyes wide shut, no pants party there with Tom and Nicole. Camera back on me. There we go. Jed Meshi.

Got a great mask. We're trying to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Only the elites roll like that. I'm sure Dana's been to those parties. I'm sure he's had a few of them. Jed, we appreciate you for sliding in in Luke's absence.

Luke's going to recover, but we love the work you do over there at MMA. I mean, look, you're not for everybody, okay? You bring a different breed of truth and honesty, and sometimes it hurts. Sometimes you leave a mark, you know? Not everybody likes straight shooters, BC. That's true. That's on them. That's not a me problem.

You know, the thing about Kane, he was always a straight shooter, right? I mean, he would at least shoot first, right? Maybe the accuracy hadn't, luckily. I don't know. That's what I was going to say. You ever get off an exit and then you realize you're in the wrong part of town? Yeah, there you go. I don't want to get fired.

Excuse me. Can you give me directions to the interstate? Fuck your mama. Yeah, that was a great moment from vacation there. Luke, what a pop for that. Jed, we can find your work on mmafighting.com a great website um what else you do behind the bets below the bets something like that right no bets barred there it is and i'm usually on between the links every every week basically that's our you know what that show needs to get some respect put on it for the voters of uh the world mma awards okay that's one of the World MMA Awards, okay?

That's one of the better shows out there. It does. And it's not just because I've got an undefeated streak when appearing as a celebrity guest. That's Jed K. Michoud II, Atlanta's most eligible lawyer at the moment. There you go. Yeah. Go Dawgs. Back at it here.

Thank you so much to Jed. Like I said, this will be a little bit of a shit show so we're going to roll the dice a little bit we're going to have a recurring wheel and what i want you to also do if you've got questions at the end of the show this will probably devolve into a bc live chat so put the question you know take the normal massage and the other awful stuff that's going on in the live chat with the p1iest of the p1s the day one p1s uh the different breed you know they're the bananas that never actually turn yellow. And you're like, is it safe to eat this?

Send the questions right there. But now it's time before we get back into more news and nuggets to spin this wheel. So, you know, look, this was, you know what I always said about pro wrestling when I was really into it? The best times in pro wrestling is when something in real life happens that screws up whatever lame storyline they were building anyway like somebody in real life gets hurt or whatever we gotta we gotta change that pay-per-view in the last minute and then they just suddenly you get this dream matchup with this great storyline and everything works out so uh you know we had we had to go to the bullpen here not just for jed but our team and say you know you may have to help fill in for luke today we may have to get deep into your personal life and unveil you to the people okay

i've been wanting to do this for a while, all right? This will be really weird. There's also challenges on here. Let's go to the wheel here. Let's do it. All right, as you may or may not be able to see, there's, you know, shots of tiger thick whiskey. There's a lot of things on here that people don't want to do, okay? Drink beer or talk about themselves. Here we go. You get what you get and you don't get upset, all right? The suspense is killing me and our ratings. This is great. Yeah, all right. Yeah. All right, there it is. This is Gaff. Let's welcome him up, folks. A native of Long Island, one of the finest producers in the history of morning combat. And, you know, is it a victory that you beat J. Aaron? I don't know.

Let's bring him on. Gaffney Pierre, everybody. Yeah. Let's get to know our staff better here, all right? What's going on, Lisey? Gaff, slide in here. First of all, Gaff, could you show the people this tremendous T-shirt that you brought for us today? John Jones. John Bones Jones. And you don't when you don't wear that ironically.

Right. Like you rep the go. You rep the go. OK. John Jones from New York. He's from New York. Gaff, you've been called the the best MMA fan who works on this show. And that's including Luke and I. That's still the case, right? There's some good ones on here. Tristan's a pretty big fan. Jake's a pretty big fan. Also, Long Island Luke. Can't forget Long Island Luke.

Shout out to the team here. You were, correct me if I'm wrong on your origin story, you were a P1 of MK. Oh, yeah. In like the very early days, who then got a job opportunity that just happened to be working on MK. Exactly. So Corey was working on the show.

He started it. And I used to work with him at my old job. And I was always texting him about the show saying like, oh, this looks good. That looks good. I like the guys, what they're talking about. Maybe they should talk about this. And one day he actually just hit me up. He was like, hey, we're looking for a producer.

Would you be interested? That's awesome. Come on i'm gonna take the job so yeah um what what are you know we've seen it come out a little bit in the documentaries that you know this can be a demanding job and sometimes maybe some of our hosts on this show tell it like it is and how it could be how it was and of course how it should be but sometimes you know we go too far what are the biggest challenges in keeping mk on the road here um last minute ads i'd probably say so uh when we hey we need you to download 15 videos in 15 seconds yeah yeah those moments are like we want to switch the show completely 15 minutes before we go live those will be the issues that come up. But other than that, it's a pretty smooth ride.

You've been an integral part of the heart and soul of this show. Has there been a moment in this show's history that for you as the team player, as the lover of MMA and MK, that has been like, that was it. That was freaking awesome. A lot of the RSDs make me feel like that. We get a lot of good content and answers from those people. And you tend to be in the hotel room on the road, like actually producing and directing it when you do most of these.

Yeah, so I'll be on site talking to the talent, just making sure everybody's good, making sure whoever comes with them can find a place to hang out and that they're comfortable and they know what they're doing, what they're going to talk about. So, yeah, I'd probably say the RSDs. And then our live shows, when we actually get to be in front of our fans, those honestly do everything. Yeah. I mean, there's a few, there's a few odd ones. There's a few odd ducks in that pool, but they're really nice people.

Shout out Jake Paquette. Wow. The Paquette's getting some love all the way from Mount Unike back to here. I said you were a Long Island native. Actually, you're a New York City guy, right? Well, I was born in Brooklyn, but I've lived on Long Island since I was like six. So do you rep Long Island in your heart or is it Brooklyn? I mean, Brooklyn is Long Island. If we're going to get technical here, Brooklyn is Long Island. It's the beginning of it.

Yeah, yeah. The far left of it. All right. Gaff, you also, correct me if I'm wrong, in addition to being, you're into music, you're a, what would you call yourself? A songwriter, performer? I'd say an artist. Yeah. I make hip hop music, often spaced.

Talking about, I like that. We got a lot of talent on this team. You also told me that you were a decent football player. Is this true? Yeah, I played in high school. Okay. Yeah, I play both ways. Pause. football player is this true yeah i played in high school okay yeah i play both ways pause

well on that note time to get back at it gaff pierre it's been a pleasure um can we talk i mean somebody one time got an mk tattoo and then they disappeared from our lives and it was you know damien the donk and we don't know if he's, you know, if he's in San Quentin right now, but you once and still have, because it's for life in this part, an MKTat on that sleeve, which is, oh, yeah, that's what I'm talking about, the M to the K right there. See, Gaff, we need people on this show that'll bleed for us, that'll go to bat for us, and I appreciate you in that regard.

Gaff Peter, everybody, thank you, thank you. Meet the staff. That's part of what we do here on days that we have to scramble and ramble a little bit. But much love out to Luke Thomas. Hopefully he'll be back on Monday. There it is. And just remember, it's Columbia, not Columbia at the end of the day. Hey, one more news item here before it probably gets weirder. We speculated about this on Wednesday's show because the 30-day deadline had seemed to come and pass with no news, is that good news? On a lack of a rematch for Spence Crawford.

Now, under the rules of their July 29th super fight, which, of course, Crawford dominated, stopped Errol Spence to become the first four-belt undisputed welterweight champion, either fighter could kick in the rematch, but it's the winner of the fight, Crawford, who can set the weight. We hadn't heard officially, but it turns out it was a 11th hour moment in decision,

which was expected all along, apparently, from the Spence camp. And Brian McIntyre, Bo Mac, the trainer of Terrence Crawford, seemed to break the news publicly. And let's go to that videotape now. Spence. Spence. Spence activated his rematch. Is that Paulie Malinowski up there?

What the fuck? Yeah, he just activated his rematch. That's confirmed, is it? That's confirmed, but we don't have a date and stuff like that yet. So do you expect that fight to happen before the end of the year? I'm hoping. I'm hoping. Just lost.

Is that Paulie Malignaggi over there? That was a great bite there from Beaumac, who is in the UK last-minute trainer switch there for Chris Eubank Jr. against Liam Smith in their big rematch. You remember Liam Smith had the upset knockout in the fourth round. There was the whole idea with throwing in the towel, and Eubank now got rid of Roy Jones's trainer and has a no-towel rule, even if he's bleeding or sweating, a no-towel rule in

the corner ahead of Saturday's rematch, so Bomack, who usually uses a sweat towel everywhere he goes, one of the best trainers in the world, by the way, let's give Bomack his flowers, he'll see what he can do with Eubank, but speaking of the no-throw-the-towel, at the weigh-in this morning, Team Liam Smith was – we'll get back into Spence in a second, but let's close out on BOMAC. Team Liam Smith was saying, here's your towel right here. Let's check out what happened. Let's go.

It's time to go. It's time to go. It's time to go. It's time to go. It's time to go. BOMAC almost got a little on him there, but a little fun and games play there from Liam Smith and company. The news from BOMAC, though, is what we're talking about. Should Errol Spence activate the rematch clause?

Well, he did. What we don't officially know yet, although Team Spence and his trainer, Derek James, have confirmed to multiple outlets that it did happen, is when would the fight happen? There's some debate in the language of the contract that a rematch would have to be at the end of this calendar year, or by the end of this calendar year, which is why even fight night in Spence Crawford,

everybody was so easily talking about, let's see again, we'll do the rematch in December. Well, Spence is going to do it but I believe that the the weight and what Crawford ends up deciding will ultimately decide if not only if this happens but if it should happen and all that so let's talk about a few things should Errol Spence do it it depends on what you really took away from the Crawford fight and And this is not meant under any circumstances to take anything away. Crawford rose to the occasion and then rose higher and showed us his greatness on a level

that we're actually openly debating if he should move up three weight divisions and fight Canelo Alvarez for all four belts. The fact that we're even talking about this and getting people involved and saying, you in on it, you in on it, just speaks to exactly what Crawford did that night. And if you go back and rewatch the fight

for as one-sided as it was, Spence had moments, not a lot, but he had moments where he bit down on the mouth guard, went in with big shots and Crawford just bounced off of them, took them and kept going and he was brilliant. But that's not Errol Spence, right? That's not the Errol Spence we've come to known

as the previously unbeaten unified champion. It wasn't just that Crawford was even better than expected because the expectations were about a classic fight, a 50-50 fight. He was better than that, but that wasn't Spence. So the real question, question there's two of them is we should spent take it physically because there were a lot of people afterwards they're saying look due to how damaging the one-sided knockout loss was and we know spence is a dog

he kept coming and he would have kept coming um you package that with the accidents and the hard weight cuts and all that yeah there could be some questions here, but I also think Spence has deserves the respect and reserves the right for us to give them a chance at coming back, particularly at one 54. So if this fight is at one 54, there's another conversation about how do you sell it for sure. But should it happen?

I think that's the only way you're really going to decide something. It'd be nice if there was a title at stake, but you can't because Jermel Charlo has all four belts at 154 and he's fighting Canelo September 30th. And then once that fight starts, one of the organizations is going to strip Charlo of one of the belts and then Tim Zhu's going to fight it and probably defend against Brian Mendoza, although I don't know if that's official. So you can't put a title at stake. But Crawford had said after this fight that if they did do it a second time, if Spence had activated it, he would want it at 154. The 147 weight cuts weren't great for him either.

And I do think when it comes to Crawford further enhancing his greatness, look, will we all want him to fight boot tennis and defend all four titles? Of course we would. But he has big opportunities that are like dare to be great opportunities, fighting Charlo for all four belts, fighting Canelo, as I mentioned. Just moving up, it seems to make sense for him. If you do this at 154, I think we reserve the right to say, okay, Spence, show us that the first fight was about Crawford's dominance,

but there were also something to be said about that that wasn't Errol Spence that night. So was it the weight cut? I think in this case, Errol Spence has been almost too much of a gamer. And you can argue and debate this, meaning he will not eschew a whisper of an excuse. And ultimately, yes, that's how we want our athletes to behave. That's how champions behave. No, I'm not going to flaunt an excuse. Some guys do, but they use that excuse to sort of deceive themselves,

re-motivate themselves. You've got to constantly be a con man to yourself in some ways to get the best out of yourself. I think I almost want Errol to be fully honest here. I almost want him to go against that normal nature, not from a standpoint of, well, BC, don't you kind of work for Showtime and you're all under the Paramount banner, and this rematch would probably be a Showtime pay-per-view,

and you'd probably really want it to do well. Yeah, of course, all of that. Also for the state of boxing and all of that. But I think if you are going to sell this rematch, and you can get it at 154 if Crawford agrees to it, you've got to tell what would be the truthful story. How do you explain why that fight was so one-sided, why Spence really couldn't get anything going?

If it is the way cut cut i'd want to hear that i don't think you'd take anything away from him spence has been 147 his entire career i mean he fought in like the amateurs i think at 152 like he's he's always been huge it's you know unfortunate that it was the biggest fight of his life here where this happened but he also took off big gaps between fights yeah he looked incredible againstgas, but when you're cutting weight in such physically taxing way for being so big, and I don't assume it's an easy cut either for Crawford, who didn't complain about having a bad cut,

but also, like I said, was quick to say, hey, maybe we should do the rematch at 54. I do believe the weight cut could have played a factor. Could that make Spence better at the new weight? Could this fight look completely different and be more competitive yeah probably could now what does that do to the potential selling of it and the marketing of it there is potential hurdles there if you want it to be a blockbuster i think though

that there are angles and questions that we don't know the answers to i don't think spence is completely done i don't think that i think that was the perfect night for crawford simultaneously the worst night for spence and let's give him the respect to see if he can do a run at 54. Would I like instead if Spence was testing the waters first at 54, maybe fighting Zoo, maybe fighting another former title challenger on that level? I mean, yeah, but it's on him business-wise. He has the rematch clause. They negotiated it for a reason.

We got excited about the potential of a rematch for a reason. I get that the first fight didn't play out in a way that screamed the need for it. And is there a need? No. I would say in terms of the boxing fan in me would like to see right now, as much as I'm so freaking dialed in on Canelo Charlo, I want to see what Crawford would look like against the winner or loser of that fight. Those are huge fights. But there was a reason we got all excited about Spence Crawford to begin with. Maybe it does look different at 54. It's still going to sell a certain amount.

You've still got two of the best fighters of this era, right? And in some ways, in terms of their own divisional history, two of the best all time, no question about it. It would be interesting to see. I mean, I do think... Now, you can be too aggressive in telling a storyline or using an excuse. You can also just lie at times. I don't know.

Was Manny Pacquiao's shoulder superly affected in the Mayweather fight? Was that the reason that he couldn't use that power hand enough? He didn't say it after the fight in the interview in the ring. But then 20 minutes later at the press conference back, suddenly that's all he's talking about. So there has to be some idea at that point of like well we could use the shoulder as a story to sell that rematch that rematch that never ended up happening was there a need for it probably not but uh you know the competitor in spence if he truly isn't done he's gonna have something to say in a rematch at 154 if they go in that direction and i'd be interested in seeing

that because he has that right so if he's going to do it anyway let's see if it was the weight cut or one bad night and um we all want to see bud now see how great he can be but he's got three you know he's got two fights left on this pbc deal let's see let's see what they can do with that because there are some big super fight potentials like i said winner or loser of canelo versus charlo which is going to be a really fun fight september 30th on showtime pay-per-view uh that's the end of the news that was so we go back and roll the dice on this mysterious wheel okay i don't know are we going to be talking to members of this team are we going to be facetiming weirdos i don't know what's going to happen but let's see let's see you get what You get what you get, right? You know, I mean, I, I just host the show. You know what I mean? I can't decide the future. Uh, what we do though, is we try to take lemons and turn it into, um, turn it into

like lemonade and shit. Right. Um, what does that even say? Regular Jake, what does that even say regular jake what does that mean right oh oh sorry it's like dude love you it was mcfoley was also um you know mankind uh let's actually bring him in i'm excited about this um one of the most integral members in the history of morning combat you may have known him by some of the great roles he's played including mk documentarian and the incredible canadian-born englishman uh jake von amsterdam but you also may know him as a multi-time award-winning director i mean i don't know if he actually ever did win an award but he won an award from my heart and that's jake roseman let's bring him out right now yeah yeah yeah big part of this mk family uh uh jake von amsterdam was also an option on the wheel we didn't get him though but

jake from new jersey uh you were i mean you've been an andy king type of guy for this show for a long time jake thanks brian happy to be here yes yes i know you're used to my brother being on this show but um i guess you know it's time for me to get my shot you're split uh uh half brother that has been yeah yeah jake vaughn he's my step half brother from canada okay did you would you have to say mom or did you know yeah it's it's a whole it's a big because we used to have to stay very canadian jake vaughn's mom has got it going i don't want that to be awkward between us if you guys share moms you know no you know how it is a bunch of canadian stuff you know yeah yeah we have can Canadian friends on this show. The Paquettes.

Oh, lots of them. Have you met them? Oh, of course. In London, right? Great people, great people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fantastic. Jake, I do, I mean, look, what's the future of the Docs?

Is Doc 8 with the footage from London ever going to happen? We just don't know yet. We're hoping. We just don't know. Yeah, so last I was talking with my brother, Jake Vaughn. Well, he's right now, he's in Siberia working on another project. Oh, wow. He said there was some budget issues with the last doc and he's he's trying to work through.

But he wants to work on it ASAP. Well, Jake, I know you and Jake Vaughn play a play a big role in the creative mind of this of the of this doc franchise. You know, Matt Snyder, who doesn't go on camera much also, is just an irreplaceable part of the brain trust that has brought real life right the growth of men the ups and downs the you know and and brought it to the masses in the form of cheap comedy and you know and and brotherly roasting but there's also an art to how these films have been constructed the time put in the delicacy the music the uh the moments what is it like to edit up such a souffle of emotion and testosterone like the MK documentary series? Well, from what I've seen of my brother's work, it seems like he has a lot of good content

to work with. There's always ample of storylines and silly things that happen with the crew and the cast. One thing I know is he misses Jay a lot, the former Malka. Jason Aaron. Yes. Oh, sorry, Pennington James professionally. Pennington James, yes. That guy was a line machine and he was always.

Well, FaceTime Jay Aaron is one of the wheel stops today, so you never know what can happen here on Morning Combat. I don't know. Fingers are crossed. Yeah. I hope he's sitting by a piano if it does happen. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Oh, yes. That's true. Tickle those ivories, right? Yeah, yeah. How about you, Brian? What do you see with the documentary's futures? How do you – I see a closed future.

I see a dead end sign, unfortunately. But my heart will go on near, far, wherever you are. But no, seriously, I would love – look, things are cyclical. There's always – you always deal with budgets or waiting on things. And MK fights and survives. The's always, you know, you always deal with budgets or, you know, waiting on things. And MK fights and survives. The docs will see you another day. We have important footage there from London. I mean, that was arguably, arguably earlier this year, the mountaintop moment.

I mean, you've been along for every step of the MK ride. Was that the mountaintop moment when we went to London? Yes, absolutely. It was the biggest live show you guys had done at the time. And the fan out, the support was tremendous. Yes, absolutely. It was the biggest live show you guys had done at the time, and the fan out, the support was tremendous. Yes, yes. You guys were rock stars, I heard, that night. Then is this the lowest moment today as

we scramble to create content together? I mean, this is pretty bad, right? This is the worst! Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great, though. No, I believe the Docs will have a future because our story is not over it hasn't been fully told and jake you know people always i'm sure they ask you on the street all the time or they you know you handle jake von's like social media and stuff right so you see the

response of the people they're always like yeah but is that actually real do luke and brian really not get along like is all that you know is are these is this reality, or is this just a hard-ass dose of reality about what life is like? This is real. It's real men, like, real talk, 24-7, 365. Love that shit, yes. Nothing is fake. It's all real.

Do you have any final message to the fans about Morning Combat? Because, Jake, you have bled. There's a lot of secretion. You have a lot of fluids have been spilled for this show. You've bled for us. Long live MK. Party on, dudes.

All right, Jake Roseman. Let's hear it for him here. Another valued staff member and, of course, the departed twin sick ex-brother of Jake Vaughn, Amsterdam. All right, we did. So here's the deal. We didn't do this properly,

but we did put a call out, a little bat signal out to the fans that we would like to get into more, not just the old school DMs from Donks, but put a little video element on there. We're asking today to fill some time here with some fan live questions. So continue in the live chat on here.

Mikey Moore from CBS Sports is monitoring that with the authorities close by, and we will get that. But we did get a few. So let this today be a teaser. Mikey Moore from CBS Sports is monitoring that with the authorities close by. And we will get that. But we did get a few. So let this today be a teaser. We're going to play a couple videos. We'd like to do a weekly video segment, which gives you guys the chance to ask us a question just as much as it gives you a chance.

It's almost fan-subby-ish to, you know, you got to balance your balls. It's not America's Got Talent, but it is, you know, it's going to be weird. Let's be fight camp, you get to pick three coaches out of all active UFC fighters. A striking coach, a wrestling coach, and a jiu-jitsu coach. Who do you pick and why? Since Luke is going to need as much time as possible to overcomplicate this question, I'm going to pass it to BC so that he can get all the easy layups just like the old, washed, out-of-shape dad that he is.

Love you guys. Appreciate you guys. Oh, by the way, Luke, you cannot pick any of BC's picks. And thank you for everything. Have a good one. Wow, Long Island Rob in the house. We have Long Island Luke here. He could come up on the wheel.

By the way, we had Matt Favola in here, so big week for Long Island hunting team, just the same. Shout out to Rob there for jumping in. And yeah, Luke would have overcomplicated this. Luke's not here today. We can't get his guesses. So you said, I would have overcomplicated this. Luke's not here today. We can't get his guesses. So you said I would take active fighters but make them my specific coach across those categories. That's an interesting way to look at it.

All right. All right. I'll tell you who I want. So I need as much, you know, if I get signed to the UFC, it's going to be an exaggerated CM Punk type of role. They better give me MMA journalist slash fighter Mike Jackson. Maybe I'll just fight journalists. Maybe I'll fight Helwani in the cage for the Battle of Quebec. The winner gets to put up the floor to Lee. Yeah, that's probably a little weird. I would need Sean Brady as my wrestling coach because Sean Brady has a fire and intensity to him. I had him on the RSD couch, Philadelphia's finest.

I think that could motivate the shit out of me. I don't need actual technical wrestling advice. I just need him to kind of yell at me and look real mean and disappointed in me, and I think I'd be just fine. Striking-wise, that's interesting. I mean, you know, I'd probably go kelvin gastelum because between rounds i would really need some inspiration and he did you know it was the only one who was able to kind of get inside on izzy and mix it up and throw you know successions of big bombs and combinations

if he could just keep regaling me between rounds with reminders of how great that 236 fight was and how inspirational it was that'll be the eye of the tiger that i need i just need somebody to coach my jiu-jitsu um all right i gotta be active so no not not coach joanna um how about glover how about glover? How about we go Connecticut corner there? I feel like if you put Sean Brady, Glover Teixeira, and Kelvin Gastelum behind me, maybe Coach Latorre there as a fourth for emotional well-being. Look what it's done for Mike.

I think we're on to something there. Good white belt answers there from your boy BC. Let's go to the next video. This is from 2Changs. Let's hear in from this. What do you got? Columbia. MK.

MK. Morning combat. Revelry, revelry. Shout out to the donks in the chat saying inappropriate things, all right? You know what I'm saying? Okay, BC and Luke, no mea culpa's allowed. Karate chops are coming straight to your head. You've had like three margaritas.

Who is going to be the first person to beat Terrence Crawford? Or now anyway? Whichever one you think you want to take a shot at. Thank you. Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell. This is what we call in case. In case. Wow.

Two Changs, use a grifter, sir. Soar again, bird, please. There's a lot of ambition put into that clip. That's an interesting question. If Terrence Crawford, I don't think Terrence Crawford has a lot of fights left on him, but I think he'll be here for a good time for what is left. So is it possible that he can, well, if he's daring to be great, right, especially, look, he might be favored against Charlo for all four belts,

and I'm sure the Canelo fight will influence us in some ways in regards to that but i still think that's a very difficult fight and a big fight um i'm more apt to believe that if he was going to lose based on though the projection of potential opponents to him that it would be canelo that doesn't mean i wouldn't potentially pick crawford i want to remind people that like right after that performance of what crawford did to get to spent and by the, Luke's not here today. He's under the weather. But yesterday he was really talking some good stuff about in between shoots about Chuck was asking him about Chuck Mendenhall was here. So there you go. About what it was actually like to be in the arena for Spence Crawford. We remember Luke on the, you know, live reaction show afterwards had like borderline tears in his eyes and he compared it to watching Pavarotti so we're we rightfully so we got very drunk on like wow Crawford's like might be way better than we thought and we already thought that he was you know one of the best ever so I could have been drunk on that you know telling the girl I love you the next morning after the first night but I did feel in the moment there, and I still do, that while Crawford moving up three weight classes to fight Canelo

is almost an absurd conversation, I do believe that he is competitive and could win that fight. I do believe that there are certain greats that they just have the combination of durability, daringness, speed, and just whatever, where you put them in situations manny pacquiao is the perfect example and they just rise to the occasion it's not that there's not limitations along the way as they rise and wait pacquiao's you know one punch power ability certainly didn't rise up but he had sort of the perfect storm of the the domination

of de la joya mixed with how much he just took ricky hatton the frick out of there and maybe that's the most dangerous version we've ever seen of him. But he would move up in weight, Roy Jones too, in ways that you're just like a new way too, in ways that you're just like, damn, it's as if weight doesn't matter. Crawford moving up three weight classes. Like I could, I was the one in the beginning who said no Crawford because it was Crawford after the fight. Remember who said, I don't even think I can go to 60.

Maybe 54 is the most I can go. And it's not that he shouldn't have that sort of cautious attitude. Going up in weight and facing killers is tough, but that is what the greats do that dare to be a next-level great. And I do, as much as Crawford has accomplished a ton already, three-division champion, two-time undisputed champion now, I don't think that he has fully maximized the potential of big names available to him because they were not available well yeah i guess that makes no sense but they

were not available to him for a while and it's not his fault he didn't always help himself marketing wise he wasn't always the best interviewer a lot of things there but he's coming out of his shell now after finally getting his flowers in this big moment and i think he is one of those that that could do that i may end up picking him if they actually made that fight because i do believe his frame it's not gonna be easy to take punches like that but he has the potential footwork wise and with that speed to be a real big problem with canelo but you still have to look at canelo as the answer to that question because that would that would be an enormous lift i mean we're getting into sugary leonard

territory we're getting beyond that we're getting into just like daring to be great shit that is on another level now a new way is kind of in the midst of already doing that um i can't believe he went up there to the new division at 122 and and i mean he kind of urinal cake steven full and jordan hate saying that because it's disrespectful and i love cool boy steph i mean i still he's he's one of the best in the world i just didn't expect it was going to be like that i picked full. I just didn't expect it was going to be like that. I picked Fulton to win. I didn't expect it was going to be like that in a fourth weight class where it just doesn't matter.

There are, it depends. Like, is Inoue about to do the type of craziness that this question is suggesting? Like Crawford going up three weight classes against Canelo is crazy. That's crazy, right? It's crazier than when like Usman was talking about going up to light heavyweight. I mean, it is crazy. That's crazy, right? It's crazier than when like Usman was talking about going up to light heavyweight. I mean, it's crazy. But is Inoue poised to do the same thing

because by beating the best guy at 22, granted, it's still a far leap to get up to lightweight, which is 35. That's three divisions up. But the closer he gets to 30 and 35, you are now suddenly talking about the opportunity at big-time money fights that bring big-time historical implications. And I do think Inoue, who is a star in Japan on a bigger level than I would believe than any American boxer certainly would know right now, he's still in smaller weight classes.

I'm sure he's very well paid, especially when he fights in Japan, as he's done a lot lately. But this is like the potential of next level money. Could you imagine him fighting Tank or an old Manny Pacquiao or something? You know, some kind of crazy matchup against, you know, Ryan Garcia, the type of people that are much higher up in weight. But it's just an attraction. You just have to see it. I mean, we were asking a lot of him to go to 122 in his fourth weight class and beat one of the best 10 guys in the world, which he did,

and beat the hell out of him. I don't know. I literally don't know if he could do that, you know, against Brandon Figueroa at 126, or would he have major problems because of that size difference? I don't know if that speed and power and boxing ability and moxie and backbone, remember the backbone he showed against Donair in the first fight? I don't know if that, he may just carry that.

He just may be that special force. I don't know who's the guy that's going to beat him because I don't know where the ceiling is. Like I really don't know with Inoue, and that's exciting. That's an exciting place to be, especially since he's in the midst right now of his physical and mental prime coming together. So the answer is Canelo to Crawford in this equation.

But man, not only is boxing great right now, like things can drive together to make this calendar year just Christmas morning for boxing fans, Kwanzaa morning, Hanukkah, wherever you're partying with me here, just it's been incredible. And I feel like right now there's these other things budding, the potential for these new storylines or possibilities.

You know, Crawford taking on Dare to Be Great fights here. What about in this division? Things are just budding, where suddenly we are talking about the potential realness of these insane fights actually happening. And yes, there's some element of what big a role does, how big of a role does Saudi Arabia play? It may play a big role, for better or worse,

depending on your stance in that regard. But that's where the money's coming from so we can get the weird attraction fight that is in Gano Fury, which will still draw a lot of attention. If we're going to get Fury versus Zusik eventually, it's going to be in that setup, in that format. But the thing is, as a beaten-down boxing fan

who's been through the wars and hung on for dear life as Leo perished in the cold water next to me you know draw why don't we draw your ass like some french girls now i mean just you know get on the get on the the barge with her what are you doing leo just hanging on there like this you know and you of course you're cold you know what i mean that water was cold as shit right i don't remember what we were talking about but you know hopefully my titanic joke didn't go down with the ship right there but um yeah boxing's great that's what i've been talking about because now we can uh we've survived the storms and now look at what's happening the the

things that used to get in the way that made these fights impossible i mean we just was the same calendar year that tank and ryan fought even though like under the old way of thinking it wasn't really possible. Maybe we do get Fury, Usyk later on, you know, January. Maybe we do get all these other ones. What? Wow. What a time. What a time. Savor the flavor. Enjoy it. All you new boxing fans that were MMA only before, enjoy it. And all you people that are like, I'm sick of the box on the show. I'm going to turn it off. If I don't get Luke and if I don't get MMA talk, I'm going to turn it off. How about you let me turn you on? Consensually, of course.

All right. I'm a married, very happily married man. I'm talking about turn on the box, right? Like step three, put it. No. All right. All right. Let's go back now.

Let's go back to the wheel. It's getting hot in here. Let's go back now. Let's go back to the wheel. It's getting hot in here, so hopefully no one will have to take off all their clothes, as you've seen the physiques on many of our staff members here. Here we go. You get what you get, guys. I can't promise you entertainment, but in a pinch, your boy BC can pull out some party favors. I would have been an incredible clown, a sad clown, a drinking sad clown, but I probably would have been really good at it. But like most entertainers, I probably would have had a incredible clown a sad clown and a drinking sad clown but i probably would have been really good at it but like most entertainers it would you know i probably

would have a sad private life but um you know it's like what are we running from that we're still willing to run in front of the camera our artists as us you know visual artists such as us um what do we got here wrong island luke all right a a an important artery in the veins that are morning combat he comes to us from Huntington, Long Island. Yes, his dad is from Australia, but he's a big-time director and producer in these parts, a bearded fella who loves 90s alternative rock and is not afraid every weekend to go to see another show.

Offspring is next at Jones Beach. Let's bring him in here. It's Long Island Luke Noseda. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. On the show, brother, all right? Look at that beard. That's aggressive. Oh, we... Is that a Long Island, Luke Noseda. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. On the show, brother. All right? What's up, man? Look at that beard. That's aggressive. Oh, we...

Nice beard. Is that a Long Island thing? You have a thick-ass Long Island accent. I do? Yeah. Make me say water or coffee. Water. Can you give me a fraggle with the frivolous?

When you... It's a flagel. When the frivolous came in yesterday, true or false, it was like me on vacation in Quebec. I felt at home. It was just like you with your Quebec croix. I was, I just, the accent came out. We started hitting it off. It was a great time.

Both live in Huntington, you know, same town. I feel, I feel, you know, I got respect for Long Island. I've done some time in Long Island, all right? You know, I've chased them off around unsuccessfully on that bitch-ass island. You know, I did some time at Fire Island, too. Fire Island's great. A lot of people think it has some weird innuendo there, but Fire Island is actually a great time.

Back when I was going to Fire Island, you couldn't say you were going to Fire Island without innuendo innuendoing. Exactly. But now I'm glad that people have evolved to that point. Are you automatically, automatically a Billy Joel guy based on where you're from? So that's funny. I actually saw Billy Joel like a month ago and I-

At the Garden. At the Garden. But I, you know, I hadn't heard Billy Joel like at all before that. My girlfriend's a big fan. Shout out Katie. So we went, we got tickets, went to see Billy Joel. Okay. I love this accent here.

Um, what's the worst part about working on this show? Is it dealing with the other Luke? What is it? No, honestly, it's just like, i'm tech difficulties and shit luke ain't so bad you know he's dealing with shit just like we all are uh but yeah just shit going wrong when you're not expecting it and we've had a tech difficulty or two in the history we've had a few man yeah a couple here and there you know nothing big all right um let's talk about your origin story not necessarily how you were birthed or you know know, the circumstances of the consummation, although your dad is Australian. Well, let's start there.

What is the most Australian thing about you and how thick is your dad's accent? Most Australian thing about me is probably just, like, I'm weird. Like, I like to just, like, dig in the dirt and do, like, grimy-ish. I feel like that's like an Australian thing are we talking about like you have no problem with manual labor or you're like a dude that's like no manual labor but I'm weird like I'll be bored and be like

oh yo I'm gonna go split firewood in my backyard like that's like that kind of shit well that's just manly shit dude you can embrace that I think it's Australian shit okay but how much of a man are you I don't know your backyard setup in terms of what the neighbors can view but i'll always risk it if i'm in my backyard doing yard work even if it's light out and there's an angle that no one's like i'll just i'll just you

know i'll just piss right in my backyard in my backyard all day every day especially freedom i'll be drinking in my backyard like come on i'm having a few beers i'm not gonna go into no piss yeah no you know and then you know but you wouldn't you wouldn't all right we'll stop it right there anyway we'll just stop right there oh when did you join morning combat what are the circumstances you weren't here since day one did when they when they pulled jay aaron out of here in a white uh coat where did you follow him back in what happened yeah so same pretty much story is gaff uh but it was said it was with gaff not cory i knew gaff used to listen to morning combat all the time

said gaff heard you working on the show you gotta let me know when you got an opening he let me know and uh here we are it's just so weird that gaff is in a job where he needs gaff tape right yeah it is weird every time someone calls for the gaff i'm like we got this bit in my house my wife gets so mad i do it every time where she's i'm like babe where's the band-aids or the scissors she's like oh it's in the bin and i'm like what bin she's like in the drawer and i'm like well what's the bin's name she's like we're talking i'm like we should give it a name right i'm like i don't know laden and then you know she gets like so upset like what about the families and i'm like yeah yeah i don't know but yeah uh to close here you're not dude you

saw third eye blind on the self-titled album anniversary tour, correct? Correct, yes. I gotta see that show. I mean, so let's be honest about something. What year were you born? I gotta do, Luke Thomas. It's not your fault you weren't alive in 1993, all right? I was, because I was born in 1992, thank you.

Okay, what I wanna ask you is this. That Third Eye Blind album, although firmly entrenched in the sort of – look, that bubble of alternative rock in the mid-'90s, which certainly was at its purest at the breakout of grunge, but like any musical genre will get – the waters will get muddy due to commercialism and suddenly you've got like a pop grunge. Look, that Third Eye Blind self-titled album is pop rock. Let's not run from that. Dude. But is that the best album from that era? I'm not talking about the best of the 90s list.

It may not appear in the top ten. It may. I'm not sure. But that just screams 90s, and it's brilliant, man. Front to back, that is a fantastic album. I could listen to every song on it. But best 90s album is Ten by Pearl Jam. He's right. You're damn's right you're damn right you're damn right maybe okay computer by radiohead and you know what i'm not a big radiohead guy not

gonna all right creep that's about it you're you're acting like one right now um i did i was talking on camera the other day you know um you can own an album but not really know it and then years later you kind of rediscover dude i i just picked up no code by Pearl Jam thought I knew it I was singing smile before dude that middle stretch of like smile off he goes in my tree Do that that record where people always? Dispatch it as sort of the weird drumming pattern record with Jack Irons that album is brilliant I feel like I've never heard it before and I'm just experiencing it for the first time. I feel that way about a lot of Pearl Jam albums.

I'm going to see Pearl Jam on Tuesday in Chicago, so. At Wrigley? Not at Wrigley, at United Center. Shit. Any MK donks out there, I'll be rocking some MK shit. Shout me out if you see me. Wow, Steve Pratt from PR Showtime fame gonna be there as well.

Dude, that's gonna be a, is that, does this have potential to be the concert of your lifetime? No no because i saw them last year at msg and i was in the pit i was like five rows back it was long island luke getting after it's been great to catch up with you on a closer manlier way here just so happened the cameras were on you know yeah yeah long island luke no seda right here no seat i know yeah his dad's an australian but you already knew that all right all right uh mikey let's uh i, let me get going here on a couple BC live chat questions. Now, this is from the actual MK live chat on YouTube. Good luck to me.

This one's from Cha. I think he has a pizza slice next to him. He says, Morning Combat, do you think Jon Jones is overrated post-drug suspension? Well, you know, the answer is no, because he's not only the greatest fighter of all time, he's now the two-division champion and your current heavyweight king. So you can't do that, and you certainly can't do that after a three-year self-imposed absence, which certainly brought up a lot of questions. Yes, gone laid a fat egg that allowed that, but that's a Jon Wynn, clean and great. So no, he's not overrated. But is he a different fighter? With the inclusion of age, has things caught up to him? Is he not

as dangerous? Yes, all of those things are true. He sort of wore out the end run of his light heavyweight reign by being just barely able to keep that perfection. I do think in some of those fights, you know, the Reyes, particularly the Mejeda one, because of the danger that Santos was bringing across, he was a little bit too careful. And I felt the combination of the Reyes and Santos fights, he was kind of lucky overall that he got the nod that maybe he played a little bit too safe. I had the same criticism for Adesanya against Yoel Romero in particular. But, you know, there's also, you've heard DC used to argue back when him and John were in the thick of their rivalry there

that it was obvious that USADA kicked in as John came back and fought OSP and he wasn't the same. Well, you know, he kind of looked the same in the Gustafson rematch and kind of dominated that. But I think overall this is true. Obviously there's regression with age, but with age and experience, the mind, especially if you are a GOAT and an all-time great. And, you know, while we always shout out John's chin,

rightfully so as being a major part of his ability to be the GOAT and retain and win all these close fights, dude, his mind, his willingness to be coached and the relationship with his coaches, I know it's been rocky in some cases there of late, but that long lineage that they've had together. I mean, John's brilliant. His ability and slim margin of error in dangerous close fights to make the right decisions

and do just enough to get ahead, even when he's self-compromised, like the first Gustafson fight with the drugs. And I'm sure there were a few of those fights during that run where there was some level of, I don't want to call it self-sabotage i mean it might technically technically be when people kind of act out in that way out of facing certain fear of of reality or whatever i mean there's deep levels to that but that experience is still there in fact it's in a more effective way so what may look like john not being the same and being overrated is also him figuring out

how to be as efficient as possible. And that's what really defines the great ones. And you know, remember that Luke always has that stat about welterweight and under 35 and over of how unlikely it is to win title fights. The exception is Tyron Woodley, who, by the way, I think, along with being an exceptional athlete and was able to carry the speed and timing late, he was also really, really smart at focusing on one aspect of the game and being as efficient as possible and beating you in that field, whatever he picked. Like, you know, he had different styles coming at him throughout his reign from Wonderboy to Maya, you know, through Till and all of that. But his ability to be as efficient as possible and, you know, it Till and all of that, but his ability to be as efficient as possible

and, you know, it was not easy to be hit either. That's what John's doing. I mean, that's what that gone win was. I mean, it was a lean on the old school fundamentals. I mean, look at what, how Glover Teixeira, one division down, was able to reinvent and stay at such a late age and then eventually win the title

and still be a factor as recently as that last fight. And got his ass kicked in big moments there, but would not go away. And if Jamal Hill didn't have the backbone that he showed that night, maybe Glover does regain the title there. But the whole key is that focus on the fundamentals mixed with that experience.

So it could look overrated, but John's also in a spot where he's going to find the shortest distance between two points. He's going to lean on his strength and try to exploit your difficulties and try not to get hit and not get into wars. Light heavyweight did catch up with him. And he took a long time off. But he slowly rebuilt his body. Hopefully he slowly, although he had some hurdles during that time off legally, of course, and some bad public situations hopefully was able to you know

repair some of those damaging moments in his life and aspects of the relationships and he seems to be at a point where no he's not as great now as he was in his late heavyweight peak but he's certainly smarter and certainly can make it look easier at times just by leaning so heavily on those fundamentals and and reactive, efficient movements there. I do have a lot of interest, though, with that Stipe fight in ways that Luke and other people who don't love the fight don't, where they just assume Stipe coming off such a long layoff is not going to be a factor and going to be such a diminished version of himself,

which could certainly be the case. But Stipe also has that history of sitting out for a year, year and a half at a time, waiting for the big fight, coming back and then delivering in the big moment because we don't know everything about John and who he actually is as a heavyweight. I keep repeating that, it's true. We don't know what John looks like as a heavyweight.

You got that much film on it, all right? You know, you got that much what's going on. So interesting in that regard. I'll take another one here from LazyBed3330. It says, BC, with France becoming a semi-regular destination for the UFC, might we expect an annual Paris event? I would think so. And I think if they do it right, it could be a major.

I mean, let's recap. Does it have to be four? What do we ascribe to be the four majors at the moment in how UFC operates? New York City in November, no doubt. The December one that used to be New Year's Eve and now is the second weekend for ESPN's purposes, always. International Fight Week, without a question. So what's that fourth?

Sometimes it feels like it's Brooklyn in April. Sometimes it feels like whatever is the hot spot at the moment. COVID certainly played a case where Yars Island became the jam. I'd like to see, whether it be London or Paris, that that becomes a stop and that's an anchor. I'd also like to see, and we've teased on this before, but remember when they changed the canvas for UFC 200? Unfortunately, it was too drastic, right?

It was yellow and everybody ripped it, but the whole point was to make that card feel special. We've got UFC 300 not too far away. I don't like that they ran away from that because the outcry wasn't great. I would love if the four majors can have a different color from the normal so that when you're looking back on fights and big moments and highlight packages, you're like, oh, I remember that. That was the trip to MSG in 2024.

That was a major. I remember that. It feels bigger. Those shows should feel bigger. You should load them up with title fights. They should have sort of a quarterly Scott Coker-like tentpole feel where you're going to, you know, okay, those other cards we do fill out the expectations of the TV deal and keep the lights on. But these are our big ones that we splash in. I'd like to see the focus on that. And if it's Paris, if the audience is that passionate after being held back for so long,

then maybe Paris holds the same role for UFC that New York does in the States because of how long they weren't able to have it. And now you've got MSG suddenly that you can use. It matters. It matters in Brooklyn. When they go to Brooklyn, it feels big, even though not every Brooklyn card has felt on paper like a monstrous event. And we're still trying to forget Hol home versus Jermaine Durand to me, but let's keep that going.

Let's go one more on the questions, then I'll get back to this weird wheel, and maybe somebody will turn the cameras off and pull the lights. You remember that scene in Airplane where that weird radio guy just pulled the plug, and then there was shit in the fan, and yeah, I don't know how much longer we can do this. Let's keep it going here. This is from Fabian Zajet. Who does BC have? Good question. In this weekend's seemingly only boxing fight of Big Note, which is the Liam's Beefy Smith Chris Eubank Jr. rematch. There's always like something going on with Chris Eubank. You know what I mean? It's like, do you still have some stuff

left in the tank? Sure, but there's always something going on with Chris Eubank. You know what I mean? It's like, do you still have some stuff left in the tank? Sure, but there's always something going on. Wait. Family relationships, trainer relationships, the whole, I get what he's saying about don't throw in the towel. I mean, I get the extreme level he seems to be going. He's almost going on a Deontay Wilder-like level when he fired Mark Breland and

poor Roy Jones, who didn't look like on Twitter that Roy Jones is doing work with Jamal Charlo ahead of his expected return. That's something to watch right there, certainly. I don't think Roy Jones is for everybody, poor Roy Jones, who didn't look like on Twitter that Roy Jones is doing work with Jamal Charlo ahead of his expected return. That's something to watch right there, certainly. I don't think Roy Jones is for everybody, by the way. But I think there is a certain type of fighter that Roy Jones can bring some different type of thought to that can take – that can really make a difference. So we'll see there. Like Eubank, if everything was equal in this matchup of these two, yeah, I would pick Eubank too.

And he's the bigger puncher. He's more athletic. He seems to be closer to maybe the physical prime of what's left. But you never really know what that guy has left. And there are some bizarre endings. And now he's got the new trainer. But it's Bomak who's great. But, you know, the smart money might be on Beefy again.

I mean, sometimes it comes down to not who's the more skilled or who's the tougher it's who's can hold it together more and you bank can be a wild card even in the middle of a fight even in a fight in which he's winning and his some of that had played to his old style of just being a you know like dan henderson with the right hand cocked and just throwing haymakers all the time and not really caring about much of the details of the fundamentals um i'd back liam smith if i was a better here but i'd like to see you bank still still be something and use his name in his mouth to get a big fight that would you know he would have a chance to win a chance to make big money he's been too scattered for me to like

overly pay attention to his journey of late because it's been kind of disappointing to be honest with you i don't think that's fair, unfair. I mean, not comparing him to the legend that is his dad and saying you have to be that or you're nothing. I just want to see him be consistent is really where I'm going with there. All right, how about one more time we spin this? I mean, I don't know. I don't know what this is going to look like. I mean, do you have a tolerance to hear more backstories

about the people that I love that do this show that make me look good? You better. How much does this show cost? It's free still. All right, let's get this going. I like to do that once in a while. It sounds like an old grandfather. You ever be like talking to, you know, RIP your beloved grandfather and, you know, he'd be in the middle of telling you like some great story and then he'd be like, and then the Japanese came in and then suddenly he'd be gone for like 10 minutes. You'd be like, all right, Gramps, I'll come back in a little while. You know, that's great.

All right. Oh, wow. This is a beer chug moment. So they said I had to chug a beer against somebody on set and then I've got to kind of roll it. I got to kind of spin this and we got to get a victim here. Let's see what's going to happen. This could be messy.

This could be really messy. But I must protect this house, right? That is Brandon. Yeah. Oh, no, no. Oh, I can't beat Tristan. It's Tristan, everybody. Let's bring him on.

Let's bring him on. Tristan, I don't even know your last name, but I do know that you're a valued part of this show. You have rabid animals tattooed on your arm and now you've got to drink a me and a Modelo chug off. How great to see you, brother. All right. Where are you? Are you a New Jersey guy like the rest of this team? New Jersey. What town do you represent? North Bergen. North Bergen. Okay. Like Gaff, you also were a legitimate athlete, a football player, correct? That's false. Did I a legitimate athlete and a football player correct that's false

did I just stereotype you as a football player because you're probably one of the few people in this room who goes near a weight room pretty regularly what are you a musician an artist an MK cameraman what is your passions MK cameraman slash skateboarder

and you've got tremendous ink. The quality is there, and it says a lot of things about a man to have animals that will tear your face off at any point. All right. In honor of UFC Noche in a few weeks, you and I will do the – what should the rules be on this? Wow, they put your last name on it, your government name on it. Tristan G. in the house.

All right. Long Island Luke here. What's the rules? We just got to go for it? One, two, three, Chuck. All right. Long Island Luke here. What's the rules? We just got to go for it? One, two, three, Chuck. All right. I'm awful at this. You have youth

and a lot going on for you. But, you know, I'm a team player here, okay? So three, two, one. One, cheers. Anything for MK. Is he done? Anything for MK. he done anything for MK alright

do you think that's are you inspired or disappointed in my performance can you touch it can you pick it up I'd say I'm disappointed Brian I showed my age there Tristan thank you for crushing that and crushing that can.

No problem. You've been a great part of this team, a steady rock and cameraman. You go on the road with us a lot. Luke has painted this picture, though, that if somebody's going to kill him in his sleep, that, you know, what is he, just intimidated by your artwork? What's going on here? I'd say the only thing I'm killing over here are these these beer cans yeah these beer cans right there shout out central new jersey in the house this guy jersey strong um you know has there been a

moment where mk's gone too far has there been a moment where you've been working on this show and you're like this could be the last day of the show you know i'm gonna have to plead the fifth on that one okay okay okay um does it get you any street cred to say you work on MK? Like, has MK ever gotten you laid? You know what I mean? It's just, you know, it's a question. It's another plead the fifth. Okay, okay.

You can get more on Tristan's Patreon account there, onlypipes.com, over there for Tristan G. You said you were, what else you got, Pat? Are you into music? Did you answer that? else you got, Pat? Are you into music? Did you answer that? Are you into art? What are you into? I mean, I am into music,

but mostly in my free time, skating when I can. Yeah. You've played Fortnite? Definitely not. I've got street cred with the kids because I've got an addiction and it helps me with my mental health.

Tristan G., it's been a pleasure talking to you. Do you have a message at all to the fan base, the MK? You're a part of the family. You've been in the docks. You have been in the docks. I don't know if you get benefits with SAG for that, but you have been in the docks.

I have been. There's one very pinnacle moment in the Cleveland dock. Dock 5, yes. Where we were chugging beers and oddly enough chugging again. So you were the champion in that private box we had at the Cleveland Guardians game. Some say so, some say not. Because there was a lot of chants of like. Got a shout out, Tim Gilligan.

Yeah, there was like Tim, Tim, Tim. Yeah, yeah. You know, that documentary definitely documented a low point in this show's history you know if only we had doc cameras rolling today we could equal that tristan gutierrez uh this is to many more mk shows with working with you you crushed it thank you very much and uh you know i got a little bit more work to do on this modello all right let's keep the ball rolling here i don't know if how much more we you the people will take from me, but I got a couple more questions we asked for. Let's hit it hard, okay? This is from Angry Retweet.

BC, how does it feel to be in the presence of a goat, a.k.a. Jed Mishu? Well, you know, the greatest of their time. Yeah, I don't know. I like Jed. I'm really proud that he was able to slide in and help us out today. I love the different variety of guys that we can bring on when Luke or I are on vacation or ill or what have you or have other things going on. Because you want to be able to not only provide a different flavor and a different opinion. Sometimes even Luke and I, for being so different, can end up in the same lane opinion wise and you know and we try to do paint that devil's advocate and that

other side with the best we can but jed seems to have a motor on him he seems to have an ability to uh not be afraid to to uh to swing big and throw from the rafters you know like henry rowan gartner when he uh threw back that that home run you know, and you're like, okay. You know, he throws off-speed stuff. It's hot and heavy. It's the cheddar, and sometimes it lands, sometimes it gets all over him, you know what I mean? So a big fan, though, of Jed and the work he does over there at MMAF.

Love that we are able to, you know, bridge gaps with our competitors or brothers in the game and, you know, show up on each other's show. Here's one thing I learned in a really cool way about jazz music. When Bronstetter helped me and Joni Mitchell really was my gateway drug through Jocko into that. But look, you're either like a jazz purist, and I love some sort of the old school more pure elements of jazz that was you know predominant in the 50s and 60s but jazz fusion in the 70s in particular for my taste coming from rock it just took it to like a different level I mean it was just incredible and the coolest thing about the jazz fusion run in the 70s is that it was all like

super groups they you know from from Herbie hancock and the you know headhunters to weather report which is probably the best to um chick korea's um outfit there um what was that return to forever and you know and a few others maha vishnu included everybody played on each other's records and maybe it was miles who set that standard more and that had always been a part of jazz i'm not saying it's not, but Miles would create these super teams that are like 92 Dream Team level to put on Bitches Brew with him. It's like everybody that was ever great in the business at that moment. But there's this camaraderie to kind of just cross over

and play on each other's records, like Jaco Pistorius's self-titled solo debut there with his face on the cover. That's one of the most unique records in you know jazz rock jazz fusion history and yet it's got all killers backing him people that were just like what is talent i gotta see it i gotta be a part of it um i like that you you can you can bump up each other it doesn't have to be like this stupid cut i mean nothing's lamer to be fair i do get caught up in like the gossip of it although i really try hard not to be involved in it. But nothing really is lamer than MMA media or boxing media beefs and wars.

I mean, I can laugh when Frank Warren's sending Dan Rayfield to hell on Twitter. I can laugh. It's cruel. But there's moments I can get, and that's just so ridiculous I got to laugh. But I like the other side of it. Let's lift each other up in that regard. Let's go over to Jasper Jansen, BC. Could you explain how belts work in boxing?

They don't work well, I'll tell you that. Of course we embrace them because it adds definition. It adds meaning to events. You want to feel like each fight matters. So if it's not a title fight, it better be a fight that creates a leap in the rankings and creates contenders. The problem is the proliferation of belts, which is always going to be a hard word for me to say, especially after a couple of swigs of Modelo. Here's where we're at in boxing.

We got too many divisions. We got 17 on the men's side. There are, you know, we're in the four belt era, which began in 1988. But to be honest, like that fourth belt wasn't really fully accepted, you know, in a four belt way for almost in some ways, like 10 years later and at different points. Either way, there's too many belts.

So we stand now with four accepted, recognized sanctioning bodies. There's always going to be sort of those next tier down like the ibo and these people that are like fighting hard to make you act like their belt is also a big one and it matters and you know the biggest problem in boxing is that it seems like networks don't put their foot down to the idea of like let's only talk about a title if it's one of the major ones let's not you know play up this these other secondary ones and make it fool you and make it seem nobody does that unfortunately they all present it you know and if you didn't know better it sucks right 17 division is too much four recognized champions per division is

too much it's almost unfortunately like look my kids compete in high school athletics if they ever get a chance to do something they're a state champion i'd love it but just because you're like the class s or small conference state champion doesn't mean like you're the same level state champion as you know somebody who wins like the state open or the open tournament or whatever state and situation you're having boxing can have a lot of those where even the real titles sometimes feel like junior ones and on top of having 17 divisions and four belts each some of these recognized sanctioning bodies then put out even more bastardized titles they take regular champions and make them super champions and then there's an active and defending

champion but we're also going to create an interim title and you know sometimes that plays in again to the presentation sometimes even you know on networks we're associated with where it's like well this is an interim title in this division so it but a lot of times that title is really just almost like what the interim title in ufc has which is like a – it's a glorified number one contender match. Okay. Still, that's too many titles, too many people getting to claim their champion. To really understand day to day, look, the boxing bug can bite you, and it usually does when a great fight happens or just a breakthrough performance like Crawford. I mean the Tank Davis fight was a fight that got so many people for different reasons.

But anytime you see greatness, you're like, oh, wow, I want to see this again. like Crawford. I mean, the Tank Davis fight was a fight that got so many people for different reasons. But any time you see greatness, you're like, oh, wow, I want to see this again. And the things that stop you from hanging around, if you tend to be more of the fair weather boxing fan, and I understand why. They don't make the sport easy to follow. But you get that bite of how good it could be.

And then some of the things that slow you down is obviously the best and not fighting the best because of certain political political territorial lines but it's not really understanding who are the real champions and what does this belt mean the same as this it's not easy you got to be like a hardcore super fan to hang in there but is the juice worth the squeeze or is it only worth the squeeze in a year like this where it's big fight for me it is always worth the squeeze this is the best sport it is and i love covering mma and ufc and i've had incredible moments and we always have this debate and i still stand by it ufc does it more consistently but the best of boxing is not only better than the best of mma in terms it's to me it's it's the it's the biggest thing that you can do in sports the only thing that matters it's still the big one there's still that romanticized feeling with it. Too many belts. How do I explain the belts? It's hard to explain them because there's so many of them.

And you get sanctioning bodies that float ones that aren't even real titles, but as long as they're getting paid, right? Every time a fighter fights for that title, they have to pay the sanctioning body a sanctioning fee. That can get dark and shady. But do we need champions to have a ranking system to make sure mandatories do happen? Yeah. I mean there are ways that policy gets abused. Promoters sometimes do things like that to influence rankings, bodies, and sanctioning bodies to get – and suddenly somebody is fighting for a title you never heard of them. Yeah, that happens. We got to get out of that.

But as long as the momentum from this year and the big fights keep making and they i mean some of that stuff can change this could this could be a we could be we're either in the midst of yet another sort of really good year that popped up in boxing but we you know we hope it builds what if this is the beginning of of a really good decade you know i mean how did the you know how did the 1970s the 60s were good but it wasn't where you know it wasn't the same power that boxing had in the 40s and 50s. And then the 70s happened and the heavyweight run. And then that led into the 80s with the Four Kings. And sometimes, you know, you need the fighters.

You need the personalities. But sometimes it just can collaborate together and it can be, you know, an illness that keeps affecting people. And you keep getting bit by that bug and the momentum carries it. Maybe we're starting a new era with younger fighters that want the smoke now just as much as they want a payday. Maybe the best keep fighting the best and these lines, these political lines that hold us back get torn down

and maybe some of the BS with the belts gets cleaned up. A boy can dream. More news at 11. Let's keep going on to OK Computer. Brian, do you think Spence is bold enough to rematch TBC at 147? So that's an interesting point and an extension of the conversation from earlier because could Crawford, based on the contract, as the winner, say,

sorry, Spence, I know it's better for you at 54, but I'll only do this if it's 47. Hoping, in some ways, maybe hoping he would say no, right? Is that a move, is that a counter move in the playbook that Bud could do? He could do. Spence could also say, it i'm gonna load back up and i'm gonna make weight one more time and that could be i don't know it could be disastrous i hope they wouldn't go down that road i think if you're gonna do it do it at 54 i think it could still be sold but you get you do have to have an angle here you do have to have an angle i mean i would be very

interested in seeing it i also would be interested in seeing Crawford continue this ride of just taking on huge fights. This is wild. Lazy Bed 330, as a fellow gas station food connoisseur, I have to ask if BC ever ate at a Sheetz. Are you kidding me? 24-7, made-to-order goodness. If not, what's his favorite Cumberland Farms order?

Are you new to this show, Lazy Bed? So, yeah, Sheetz is the Sheetz, is the Sheetz. Sheetz is the best. I get New Jersey's fascination with Wawa. I don't have it on Wawa. It gets it done. We don't have anything in Connecticut Wawa-like. Although let's put some respect on Cumberland Farms.

Yes, it's the culprit of largely damaging my liver over the past 15 years. But when I was a kid, Cumberland Farms was always everywhere, but it kind of sucked. It was just a regular run of the mill. The only thing good that Cumberland Farms had, and if you were a candy connoisseur as a kid in town you always knew if you were dragged along with your mom to a store like well at least i can if it's a store they

might have candy and if i put on a good sell i can get it i can get it maybe she'll buy it for me most stores had generic big brand candy but some of the cumberland farms had the off-brand dusty stuff that yeah it's been sitting there for three years but it's kind of like that weird you know cumberland farms had that but cumberland farms has tried to become over the past sort of five ten years successfully a super stop mart a one on the level of sheets wow and i guess now they've got those buckies super stores that are the biggest ever my parents have one near them in florida i haven't experienced that yet, but dude, I love a good, a great truck stop. I love a good TA. Well, we all have a little TNA, right? But I

love a good TA travel truck stop on the road. Those are the places that, you know, have both sustained me and slowly killed me. I think Sheetz is the best. It's more of a Pennsylvania institution. I have family there. I'm in a lot of trips in my life. You can fall into a Sheetz. Everything you eat there will give you the Sheetz, but you can just – I know you can do that at a Wawa and others, but when you go up to the computer screen, you have to talk to another human, and you can take your normal food but then just take other great things and throw it in there.

Oh, you want mac and cheese and pulled pork inside of that? Sure, we can do that here, yeah. Sheetz can get dangerous. It's a loaded weapon, and I love it. Cumberland Farms, though, has stepped up their game to a pretty high level. You know, you want to be able to have the option if you're going to deteriorate your liver for 99 cent pizza. Okay. A lot of yawns here from the cameraman must be time to put this thing together, but you know, I'm also trying to preserve my liver. So let's not glorify gas station life anymore or gas station cuisine. There's still time. It's never

too late to turn your health around. Do we have time for one more here? Christian Galen says, BC, can you do an RSD with Anitoni Malikin? Love to, but language barrier does seem to be a problem. But I do have a lot of love for Malikin over there at One Championship. And I think he is one of the most underrated fighters on this planet right now and is an absolute hammer. You saw that in the unification absolute hammer you saw that in the unification fight you saw that in the renear derrenner fight damn he's something super i just

don't think that chat would go great look matt frivola was awesome yesterday and i knew he had the potential to be that because he does have that bro every man kind of vibe big swinger in the cage and rsd which i hope comes out soon you get a chance to watch it was great and uh he was he's fun as shit. And to hear the backstory of him and Billy Q as amateur fighters in Tampa, just tearing it up, just tearing things up, I could get behind that. Let's close with LazyBed330 once more. BC, a member of the MK Discord recently purchased a cameo from you.

What are your favorite types of cameos to do for the donks? Let's close with that cheap plug that is cameo.com slash brian campbell uh 1-800 only pipes bc speaking is how i like to say no uh have not hit the bottom yet where i'm showing my butthole but you know gotta pay for these bracelets in this college you know eventually so we'll see what we get there but uh i do yeah i will i will i do have two in the hopper that is uh that i got to do over the next day and i love doing these and yeah you know it's it's a little bit of change in my pocket but it's just goofy fun i get to know you guys a little bit better i love when people

are like i want you to roast my boyfriend or my brother and here are specific you know intimate things i want you to share and work into your comedy to kind of spice it up that's great that's great um those are fun to do also there's times where people have reached out and just said look straight up hasn't been easy for me with life lately any advice you got i'll rip off 10 minutes i'll tell you the truth i'll 12 minutes i'll tell you what's going on if you want to hear it for okay it's a weird relationship yes but you know is it a more efficient weird relationship than luke super chat that's for you to decide you know what i mean but still populate that two keys gotta get shoes for school no question about that um but i love i love connecting with the fans right i don't want you to take my liver out or um you know or turn on me

and start a reddit page against me but uh who am I? Right? I'm you. Right? We're all weird in our own way. You met a lot of our people today here. They're great. They're weird just like you. You know what I mean? I love this place. I love morning combat. All right? Wish Luke could be here to experience it. But he's going to get better. He's going to get back. He did perform yesterday. We got good content. And they're telling me, hey, maybe we should spin the wheel again. Maybe we should. I don't know. You know you tell me like doc number three is a controversial doc in this series because the same thing happened right somebody got sick we got kicked out we were out of footage how do we close this doc they sent bc and a camera crew to puerto rico and we just made

magic happen in the parking lot that's either the best or worst mk improv doc you've ever seen but it was hard and it was sold just like today's episode all right here we go i guess i don't know what else what else we got on here you know we'll let fate decide right we'll let fate decide ah breathtaking television here. Yes. Yes. Oh, we've already had that one. We'll give it one more. We'll give it the college try one more time. Let's see what we get. You get what you get, all right? You get what you get. I mean, if it's FaceTime, Jay, do we have to do it? I mean, this could be something. Oh yeah, we already did all these.

Okay, one more time. They get one more spin, okay? If it's not it, it's not meant to be, okay? It's not meant to be here. We'll see, you know? I let fate decide a lot of things in my life. I've got trust. I trust the process, Joel Embiid, all right?

Trust the process here. Look at me. Call Luke. All right. Just so you know, we didn't prepare for this because I couldn't ask Luke if he'd do it, right? No, he wouldn't do it. We're going to FaceTime him. We're going to call him. We're going to see what happens here. So you know we didn't prepare for this, because I couldn't ask Luke if he'd do it, right? No, he wouldn't do it. We're going to FaceTime him.

We're going to call him. We're going to see what happens here. OK, let's call him. I'm like an old man trying to figure out how to pay at the pump with a credit card. This is great. I don't ever FaceTime. Where is this on the old phone?

Don't. I got it. Hold on. I got it. All right, Luke Thomasomas here we go just a wellness check a live wellness check on luke thomas we'll see how this works out he might be on it might be very unhappy that's possible unfortunately. Unfortunately, the backup plan is call Jay Aaron if Luke doesn't pick up. So we'll see. It's just, you know, like I just follow the rules here.

All right. I just do what they tell me. All right. Doesn't seem to be picking. I mean, knowing him, he may pick up on the stall. That's the scary part. All right. Unavailable.

Okay. So we'll try one once more. Let's see. This could be good. It could be good TV. How do you type in somebody's name on FaceTime? Let's try it. Let's try this.

FaceTime Jason Aaron. Wow, this is great, right? This is real life. You can connect with this, right? I mean, we got time to fill, right right they won't kick us out yet two hour show god I must be a magician to pull this off wow Jason Aaron in the flesh live and direct on morning combat Jay we had a situation today Luke Thomas the loving co-host is under the weather he He's ill. So we needed to fill time. And there's only so many times we can show Tristan's rabid arm tattoo

collection. We needed. His arm tattoo collection is very extensive. And honestly, it is worth some airtime. It is. We did see Gaff Pierre has an MK tat on him. So we did see that as well.

Jay, you haven't been around these parts in a while. And I wouldn't doubt if our live viewers just, they pick a new hobby for the next five minutes, but Jay, how haven't been around these parts in a while, and I wouldn't doubt if our live viewers just pick a new hobby for the next five minutes. But, Jay, how are you? You know, I'm hanging in there. It's been a good summer. By the way, you look like you're ready to do the weather. You have a nice branded two-button.

And the weather's great, by the way, out here in Long Island where I'm currently residing. I won't give out my address on air. I know there's a lot of fans and don't want to make this weekend any longer than it has to be. Or this answer, Jay. Or this answer, to be fair. Yeah, yeah. You said you need to fill time. I'm going to try to fill time.

Jay, Pennington James, speaking of the summer, he once wrote SOTS, Song of the Summer. Yes. I don't know if you can acapella that right now, or are you working? I don't mean to interrupt your workflow. No, no, no, I'm good here. I'm good here. I actually just had lunch, so your timing is impeccable. Yeah. Song of the Summer, I find, and if you're

on any streaming service, Spotify, Amazon Music, give it a listen, Pennington James' Song of the Summer. It's really one of those songs, it has lasting value. I wrote it last year thinking it would's really one of those songs, it has lasting value, you know? I wrote it last year thinking it would be the song of summer 22, but, you know, summer 23, it still slaps.

It still slaps. It still slaps. Yeah. You know, we moved over a little more of a country vibe this year. Ooh, Bon Jovi did that pivot about 25 years ago, and it's his life, right? You know, it's now or never.

You think that song is controversial? No, but the follow-ups were, okay? I hear that, I hear that. You know, I mean, Bon Jovi laid pipe all over New Jersey for probably about 40 years, but he's still kind of lame, let's be honest. A little bit, he's a little boring. You know, I was in Jersey last night, had the

opportunity to see Nickelback last night. Oh, wow. From the files of the greatest band of all time, his Shinedown, says Jason Aaron, he willingly went to a Nickelback last night. Oh, wow. From the files of the greatest band of all time is Shinedown, says Jason Aaron. He willingly went to a Nickelback show. Even Avril Lavigne is sick of Nickelback. Well, I think for different reasons.

But yeah, it was at PNC Bank. Ironically, Shinedown was the last band I saw there. But I saw Nickelback last night. They were great. Jay, from causing an accident at the weigh-in that time in Brooklyn and showing up in Doc No. 7 through many

controversial appearances. I mean, Jay, to be fair, we filmed a lot of footage of you for Doc 4 in Miami, including live performances that I'm told they lost the footage. They copied over the footage. So we have not only villainized you on this show, Jay. We have also tried to help you get those downloads, get those DMs and subscribers.

I want to see you hanging out with Guy Fieri. Which, by the way, so do I. Isn't that another story? I'll be clipping this for later because Hunter will be making an appearance in this house. Okay, okay, yes, yes. Hunter's on his appearance in this house. Okay, okay, yes, yes. Hunter's on his way over. Guy Fieri's son, yes, yes. Yes, yes.

I do see Jake over your left shoulder, if I'm not mistaken, the great documentarian of the Morning Combat franchise, and I was told that some of my live piano acoustic performances were going to make its way into that documentary, and they never did. So that's a longstanding gripe that I have with the director of photography and editor of the great...

All right, with that said, Jay, and final question here, because I'm sure I'm breaking a lot of... I mean, Luke must be rolling over in his grave right now to see what this show has become. But I did want to ask you, are you okay with... Some people, you know, they get on a reality show like The Real World in the 90s, and they don't even think about, you know, wow, I slept with seven guys this season. Maybe the directors will portray me as a little bit loose on turn four like Dale Senior, R.I.P. If I had the R.I.P., it softens the landing a bit. Seatbelts would have too. But I'm also going to tell you that – where were we?

Where were we? We were somewhere good. You're talking about reality stars. Oh, are you okay with the way you've been portrayed in MK history? Because Luke's always been a little heavy-handed. I may have thrown some bullying vibes your way. Are you okay being a career villain in MK lore? I will say that given the DMs that

have been split into in my direction, as you know, there have been a few. I'm very okay with it. I gravitate towards the pro wrestling vibe where being a villain is a win, as Logan Paul would say. Sure, sure. That didn't work for Chris Benoit, though, in the end.

Jay Aaron, everybody. Jay, can we follow your work anywhere moving forward? Are you doing any instructional videos about fish tanks? What do you got going on? There are a couple of those. There's a fish tank right over my shoulder there. But I'd say for today, just follow Pennington James or be subscribed to your music.

You know, that's the one plug that I'm looking for. Song of the Summer, more like Song of My Lifetime, right? S-O-T-S. A big testosterone summer for Jay Aaron. Thank you very much for saving our show. Thank you. Thank you. Jay Aaron, everybody, for better or worse,

one of the founding members of this show, one of the original stakes that they put in the ground. And, you know, fortunately, like Paterno's statue, they had to disgracefully removed that but you know hey all right uh that's been a great show i gotta give it up for my staff here uh luke will return luke is is in luke is going to be just fine um but they stepped up today jed meshu of mma fighting not part of our staff but part of our family did us a solid here i want to shout out tristan i want to shout out long island. I want to shout out Long Island Luke, Gaff,

Jake, the half-brother of the controversial figure, Jake von Amsterdam. Brandon was here on the cameras. He was ready to pitch in. How about our new supervisor, Alex, with the food this weekend? It's been great. We did two successful days shooting in here. Maybe we saved the show

with today's show. Maybe it was like that episode of Full House where they saved saved the kids telethon and Danny came out and Joey told some jokes, cut it out, you know, and then suddenly the Beach Boys showed up and they saved it. You know, I think we may have done that today. You know, they only gave us, you know, we MacGyvered this shit, right? We

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