MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Perth: Ulberg Brutally Stops Reyes | PFL Nurmagomedov-Hughes 2 | Wanderlei Silva post-fight KO??

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Welcome to another edition of Morning Kombat on Monday morning. Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell and the MK crew are with you for the next couple hours to discuss all the latest in combat sports. Off the top, the guys dive into the main event in Perth, where Carlos Ulberg quickly dispatched Dominick Reyes. The guys go through the rest of the card, including the referee fiasco in the fight between Neil Magny and Jake Matthews. On Friday, Usman Nurmagomedov and Paul Hughes will meet for the second time this year. LT and BC dive into all the questions surrounding the PFL bout, plus other standouts on the card. Also, the guys discuss the ramifications from the postfight brawl involving Wanderlei Silva.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And, of course, the man next to me today, Luke Thomas, of Washington, D.C. We've got a show for you. We're going to recap UFC Perth. We're going to react to the big announcement between TKO, Zupa Boxing, and my company, Paramount CBS. And also, look ahead to the big storylines

of this weekend's fights, maybe even bring up Vondri Le Silva getting sent to the basement room of Hades. Hey, Luke Thomas, how are you, bro? You're still there? What's going on? Bro, everything's coming up. Campbell, huh?

Look at this. Nice turn of the screwing. for you. You got the first interview with Dana, right? Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, uh, you know, there's going to be Zufa boxing at your place and UFC at your place. Now, as I understand it, I don't know we'll talk about this in a minute. The Zupa boxing deal is five years? Uh, that was not in the press release or came out of Dana's enough to me, but I'm told, but it was in one of the, I think, front office sports or one of those reports had that. Okay. All right, because I was going to say, I didn't see anything in the press release. And then I saw some people sharing

that. And I'm like, well, which is either way, buddy, it's incoming traffic over there for you. Yeah. It's it. What a, what a, you know, I'm used to getting screwed, Luke lately. I mean, you know, not in the traditional sense. Of course, I'm a married man. But, uh, I mean, and now, yes, now we've tamed the screw. I think that's a literary reference. Yeah. Um, there we go right there. Uh, yeah, what a time to be alive here at Paramount CBS. I am expecting some fun and, uh, big things ahead. Uh, just don't kill me, folks. Okay. All right. It's a new time in journalism, all right? Thank you very much.

There we go. Fantastic to be here. L.T., are there riots in the streets of D.C.? Everything going okay? No, streets are pretty empty, actually. Oh, okay, good. Yeah, maybe the national... Also, it was a little hot this weekend.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, dude, this weather's been fantastic. I mean, how boring is this show? Talk about the weather. Yeah, yeah. I know. Two douchebags in their 40s. Oh, what?

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not only did I stream the entire card look went perfect betting on the card by the way main card absolutely Neil Magny thank God the ref fix that shit because if that fight ended in the first round would have lost that bet but hit the over one and a half so thank you to that ref good weekend boys good week

wow oh hey wait long island well it was a good weekend for your betting I don't know if it was a good weekend for your girlfriend I mean yeah it also wasn't a good weekend for the Geelong cats my dad's team they did lose in the final oh on that day on Sunday that was like competing with the UFC in Australia. It was technically our Friday night, so it was a day

before the UFC, but we watched it, I watched it like pre-gaming for the Perth card, so. You know, I wonder if we're giving Luke Nocita's dad's libido too much, too much praise, right? You know what I mean? I mean, he may have been horned up years ago, but now he could be an old POS.

Luke Nosea, do you take your, do you like your coffee like you, like your women, or what? Uh, no comment. I like my coffee black, though. I'll say that. Wow. all right yeah get after that wow all right uh we do have a decent show ahead of you uh anything else luke thomas you want to tell the people uh you got anything to pump right now i mean you know besides your own your own so that's cranking my own genitals uh yeah i mean i'll have some stuff out this

weekend today as a matter of fact so stay too on lgptu dot okay okay dad jokes we're going back to the well on this one we're going back to the well no i don't know i don't know we'll see all right Hey, we might as well get into this fantastic program that is right in your face hole. So let's do it with topic number one. Hey, the tour of Tafo was canceled this weekend. But UFC Perth still went off over there at the Western, Western Rim of Australia. And we did get a main event that mattered. And we did get a decisive finish as Carlos Olberg quickly dispatched a streaking 35-year-old Dominic

Reyes stopping him in the first round with a two-punch combo and a little GnP to finish the job. There's no question that this sets black jag up to face the winner of the UFC 320 Malgomed Ekelaia versus Alex Pereira fight, or is there? You could also ask Yeri versus

Khalil that same night, that same question, but Luke Thomas, I kind of echo here the idea that he may have passed the line here. So the question is based on this performance, really being the most decisive to date against either a lead or sub-elite

opponent here. Do you like Oldberg's chances, regardless of what happens in that Yerry versus Khalil fight, to get that next shot? Because nine wins in a row is hard to come by. And when you go out there and decisively finish Dom Reyes, the way he did, yeah, you got our attention. I had someone asked me this last week, B.C., which was, oh, don't you think at light, heavyweight, we have a similar situation to what we at least previously had at middleweight, where Hamzot's the champion. And then on one side of the bracket was Fluffy RDR. We know that Fluffy is out, but for a moment in time, that was one side of the bracket. Then the other side of the bracket was Imovov and Bahalio, and the question was,

don't we have something similar at 205, namely on the one side, Oldberg and Reyes, and then the other side of Yuri and Khalil. And I don't think that analogy works exactly the same. I mean, I suppose on some level it is true, right? Where Roundtree, if he goes and beats Yuri Prohachka, this would obviously extend the wind streak. Maybe it would be the best win of his career. I mean, there's a lot you could do from that. that. Um, so that's, that's important. If you're Yuri, he obviously got back against

Jamal Hill. If he wins, then, you know, especially if Uncleyev ends up emerging champion, fresh matchup. If he gets a spectacular knockout, you couldn't rule that out. But it just seems to me like Olberg's the guy. The win streak is the, I think the third longest among, uh, light, heavyweight streaks ever. I think nine wins or something like that. Like John, for second. Tide for second. Yeah. Sorry for second. Excuse me. So, I mean, it's not the same as John Jones's win streak, but it's, Any, any win, fight metric one time told me, like, it's very rare, actually, for, and this was a few years ago, so I might have changed now. But, like, a lot of fighters never, in the UFC, never ever develop even three fight win streaks.

It's actually, like, you know, not unheard of, of course, but, you know, statistically anyway, not the most common thing. We're on a guy here with the second longest one in this division ever. That has to be respected. More to the point, B.C., you know, listen, I wanted to take a flyer on the Dominic Reyes story. I really did. I wanted to see him turn that corner and because. become, you know, to prove why skepticism is, can be real, but not to always be obeyed. But of course, dude, we don't get endings like that in M.MA.

It's fucking brutal. And the reality is Oberg's speed, the game plan by Reyes, which I do want to dig into when we have time here in a minute. Dude, Oberg dispatched him. Elberg did exactly what he was supposed to do. I don't really like the idea of him flying overseas and becoming the backup for this coming Saturday's main event, although, you know, not the worst thing in the world. But you get my point.

Like, I thought that the scales were tilted in his favor anyway, and then he delivered exactly what he needed to do. B.C., do I think he can beat either of those guys? I wouldn't favor him to do it, but you got to respect what he's put together. It's very impressive. His time is due. Yeah, I mean, he may be 34 years old, and the whole thing about him only being 11 months younger than Ray has surprised a lot of people, although the experience gap obviously was

wider, but it didn't matter. He looks like he's in his 27-year-old prime there, the elusiveness, the power, the speed, the accuracy on his punches. It was extremely impressive, the manner in which he went in there, how he carried himself the poise, and then the way he delivered the finish right there. I've doubted people's credentials or ability in the past, but then you get sometimes the performance. I thought Lorone Murphy did the same thing. I didn't take him oh so seriously as a contender, then he did what he did to Aaron Pico there, and it really opens your eyes. I don't know, by the way, if he's going to get the Volk shot next or if he's going to get passed over by Mowalsar.

But I really feel like when you add in the fact that there's been a lot of parity in this division that both Yeri and Khalil, who will be facing off, have tried and failed for the title in recent years. Yeri twice, of course, after having been champion, this is the fresh matchup we need. This is a, you know, fresh face guy. I mean, you know, Luke, I don't need to tell. you how handsome he is either, but when you have the performances he had in recent fights against big names where he didn't steal your heart, or he didn't show you that he's got something

for whoever will be champion by the time he gets there. I think this performance changed that. I agree with you that would be too premature to favor him against either guy due to their skill set, due to the devastating power that Pereira brings, et cetera. But talk about putting yourself in position. That's exactly what this gentleman did. And by this gentleman, I don't need i don't necessarily mean mr october but his month is starting very soon uh let's hear from one carlos olberg about where he believes he stands after such a dominant performance speaking to hunter earlier in the cage or just after the fight i told him that you know i asked him to fly me to vegas he said sweet all good so we're good now we're going to fly to vegas

and then i also said then and there but it didn't confirm and i said i will be the backup for that fight I'm here to break records man and this is what I want to do I don't think anyone has I don't think from my from the top of my head is I don't think anyone has

fought a fight and then also the very next weekend fight for the title that's what I envision that's what I feel like can happen so I put it in the air I said to but I just want to be there

I want to be there anyway at first But then if they can make me the backup, that would be awesome. If anyone falls out, then I'm there. I'll get the job done. Both guys would be massive for sure. Fighting Pereira would be historical, massive. He's got a big following. Everyone loves the guy.

And finishing someone like him would be awesome because, or fighting someone like him would be great on its own. But then when you look at Uncle Live, who's been dominant. And he's also beaten beta. You beat someone like him, it just means you're at the top. It means no one can touch you. And that's what I want.

I want to make sure I beat the best. So if you want to be the best, if you want to be the man, you got to beat the man. And right now I'm the man. Last one for me. I don't even have a title. I'm the man. So, look, I fully agree that he's the man. And I certainly don't want to turn this into negative after his performance.

But I agree with the sentiments you sort of tease towards. earlier. The only thing I don't like is being that willing to throw yourself into a backup opportunity so soon. It's not like this is an overly congested title picture. Nobody seems to ever get nine fight win streaks before getting a title shot, although Fluffy's getting close himself in middleweight. It feels like, yeah, be there, show up, be prepared to get into the cage if the promotion lets you afterwards to do a face off. But don't be that desperate where you're cut in weight and you're, you know, kind of hoping on an injury. Why would you want to fight the biggest fight of your life on a short turnaround with no preparation like that yeah i mean i get

what he so i here's what he might be thinking he might be thinking strike while the ironers hot you know these guys they believe in having their own visions quite literally like seeing their future play out acting upon it believing that like now is your time keep the momentum rolling and you could imagine why he would feel that way he had a spectacular win main event we thought he might get the title shot after the Blahovich fight, but it certainly was not a very convincing win. Dude, this was, I mean, yes, you can say in the end, and we need to talk about it here at a minute, that Reyes has, the chin is, it's just always going to be a liability at this point, right?

I mean, there's just no way around that. But again, Olberg did exactly what you would have expected from him and then some. And so you can understand where he would feel that way, but to your point, B.C., it almost feels a little bit desperate, where if he doesn't hold on to it, it's going to slip like sand between his fingers, you know, like he doesn't, does he really believe that he's got it locked up? And it seems like he doesn't even believe that, not fully. And so he wants to just race across the ocean to, you know, kind of plant a flag. And I think that nervousness would would not serve him well long term. Again, I think it's likely he gets the title shot, not not ironclad,

but likely. And whenever you think of his chances, it's certainly meritorious and give yourself, especially, especially against guys who I think are better than him, especially. in Ankleas case, give yourself a chance to win this fight and doing that by racing across the Pacific Ocean is probably not the best idea. Yeah, I think a flight from Perth to anywhere will take off at least, you know, two weeks at the end of your life. I mean, probably worse than a Cumberland Farms diet of hot dogs, although I've been there. Luke, when we spin it back to Reyes here, look, I was, you know, I wasn't disappointed. I ultimately felt Oldberg was going to get the job done. And we told you about the odds being plus 550 coming in on draft kings that Oldberg

would finish him, but I guess it was a little disappointing from the standpoint of expecting or hoping for a, you know, extended competitive main event to see how quickly Reyes ultimately succumbed and to see how clean those punches landed. Taking nothing away from Reyes, was there, was this more about what Reyes, I'm sorry, take nothing away from Oldberg, is there an argument to be made that this was a little bit more about Reyes not moving his head in that key moment or do you think the setup on those shots were just perfect timing perfect moment there for all my hope in this fight and you'll recall that i said it on friday which was i wanted reyes to be mixing it up and that to have some kind of solution you saw that long guard we talked about it right that long

guard that he uses and i thought he would be better about implementing at least some kind of challenge to that but he it just there just wasn't one i mean here's my response to what the fight was bc like it was exactly what the odds makers thought it was going to be You know what I mean? It fulfilled it from either end, on the one end, like that particular style matchup with the durability issues that Reyes has. And then to your point, that's just the defensive issues. Like, even if you had a good chin, you're still going to get plastered by some of those

punches that Reyes, excuse me, that Oldberg was throwing. Like, it was just a bad style matchup. And, you know, again, wishcasting for Reyes because you thought he had a sympathetic story, which is what I tried, just not realistic. and the fight game it's dude this is why GSP and you know Habib had very carefully planned exits

because the fight game will begin to chew you the pieces if you let it so yeah Reyes would put a statement out on Instagram after the fight saying congratulations to Carlos just wasn't my night God is good always

do you think Olberg look this division is known for sluggers for finishers at the elite level level, you know, Yeri, Jamal, Khalil. I mean, these guys all can deliver and get you out of there. And that's just a small handful of them. When you go up and down the rankings, you know, you're going to add in Ozedemere.

You're going to add in a lot more rackage. Do you think Olberg is at the very least showing that, like that combination of speed power and the setup, the elusiveness, he's becoming one of the more dangerous offensive fighters in this, in this game, if not this division, other way around, this division, if not this game at the moment. Are you going to buy into that? I think he's got a pretty fun counter-striking game. You know, he can also go forward to, which he did what he did in this one,

but the way in which he is able to elicit, in this particular case, Reyes, the pressure. Like, so he was the one pressuring Reyes, but then Reyes was a little bit far away and then wanted to close the final distance, and that's where he, pop, pop, pop, you know, pieced him up. And he did it a couple times before the final sequence, too. Like, he had his number. You know what I mean? In the end, Carlos Holberg had his number. I don't know what else there is to say about it.

But it's like, how does that match up with Uncle Ive or Poetan? You know, could I imagine him catching Poetan? I could, but I think Ulberg, which you saw in that Blahovic fight, can be naturally very defensive. And he wasn't in this one, but, you know, Poetan's a different challenge. And in Ankolaev's case, do, Ancolaev is just going to be able to mix it up on him in ways that I think that's going to be, you know, there are good reasons to believe that Ulberg might fall short against either, and in particular against Ankelaev, who is not as strong striker as Poetan in pure terms, obviously, but that ability to mix that up down is going to be real, real difficult, I think, for him. He can be pressured back. BC, it's not like Oldberg's got, like,

oh, terrible takedown defense, and, you know, he's getting rocked in every fight. He did get laid out, obviously, previously in the UFC, but in general, that's not necessarily what the tape shows. And again, under the right circumstances, a real fun, long guard counter striking game. That's a real fun thing. And as you can see, he'll beat some pretty decent guys with it. Is it good enough to beat on Kaliv and Poetan? I wouldn't bet that way. Interesting. He's going to have to prove it a little bit more. To close on race here at 35, this does feel like the end of his comeback chapter to the idea of being a true title contender and a division that is kind of wide open with a lot of parity. But would you take it even further? I mean, would you do

the Joe Rogan Shah bid here and essentially advise him that there's really nowhere else to go at this age but to walk away or is that too harsh too soon brother eel you know what I mean brother uh um no it's not too soon it's not too soon it's not the end of his career in all in all likelihood it's not the end of his career and more importantly I don't I just think he's going to try and keep going but you know he's been flatlined K.O how many times now four times right yeah so yeah four times so this one the yury fight um um ryan spani got knocked out cold too got knocked out cold in that one and then i forget the other one but you know or maybe this is three times getting flatline caoed uh whatever it's plenty to say nothing of

what's happened in the gym to say we're forgetting about uh blahovich bovich that's the right one yep thank you i was i knew i was forgetting one bc we'll talk about this later with Vangelio Silva, who is a whole another level of this to the point where you're like, I don't, we'll talk about that. Yeah. But this is, and I'm not saying we're close to that either, because that's like uniquely special, but what I am saying is, dude, if you've been flattened three times to say nothing of the gym wars, to say nothing of, you know, all the other things that go from complications from

weight cutting or just a lifetime doing it, dude, you're talking about extraordinary damage to your brain. You have to protect it. you know once or twice going out in a fight career is quite understandable three or more and now you got a problem i do believe i you know i do believe that's a bit of a dividing line for me i agree and i'm a little bit if i if you're in his corner i'll wrap it up here if you're in his corner you have to at least have a conversation about what the game plan is going forward right like what are we trying to accomplish and what kind of fights are we going to take because just

what meandering through is probably going to end up having him back in a situation like this i fully agree there's different kinds of stoppages you know what i mean There's stoppages when you've taken too much punishment, but you're still standing. There's stoppages when you're just covering up on the ground because you don't want to continue. And then there's the ones where you're somewhat routinely at the highest level when you do lose. Knocked out cold. That's just what it is. And you can only take so many of those.

So we'll see what happens there. But big moment for Olberg, he stepped up and he looked even better than I thought he would. So it might be Black Jags hour here. Let's keep the show rolling here. Now is a good time, by the way, to remember where tequila. story truly began. Hey, all the way back in 1795, Cuervo, right? Quervo, right here, invented tequila. And since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. Same family, same land, same passion. 230 years later, Cuervo is still there. And every pour and every margarita, in every celebration.

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The Devils Reserve. Yeah, let that. I mean, I'd even encourage you not to chase it this time. I'd encourage you to lick my ass. It's so, I mean, even Long Island Luke knows it's so smooth. I didn't say it wasn't. I drink it. I like it, but I don't want to do shots. I like to sip. Okay, okay. Well, MK today, of course, brought to you by Cuervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila. That invented tequila. Check us out on Friday. It's Cuervo time. All right. Topic number two coming right back at you. Perth gave us a few things to talk about up and down the card despite the cancellations no taffa bros et cetera et cetera first and

foremost though luke thomas what the hell happened in that fight between neil magni and jake matthews an absolute wild fight in which magni respond after seemingly tapping out uh what if anything should have been done about the fact that it looked like magni was submitted to close the first round only to rally in the final round to get one of his own obviously big up to the veteran but this was a weird handling altogether of this fight dude i don't even understand what rule was obeyed right like if my understanding of the rules and i reviewed them over the weekend i don't know exactly which ones australia is implementing i want to be clear about that they might have some various and particularly that province because that's how it's regulated in

Australia. They might have a separate special set of bylaws that don't follow that. But once the referee waives it, you don't get to like, oh, oh, actually it's the end of the round. No, dude. Like, you can, you can wave it at the end of the round, like simultaneously and the tie will not go to the runner. Like you waived it. Now, if you wave it after the bell, it's a little bit different and then the rules get a little bit janky. B.C., straight up, what rule was he obeying that allowed him to do that? I don't even know what's, what rule it is. I don't even, I'm still kind of confused at what even happened there. It was a big shit show

to end it, but I thought for 100% that fights over, no CETA loses his parlays, you know? Yeah, no kidding. Now, let me say a couple things. Like, dude, you, you've sat, you know, ringside or whatever for fights. Dude, I had an issue at the last

XFC event where I thought a guy was out. I mean, I was certain he was out and that the referee missed it. And then sure enough, the guy loses it and he was totally fine. Like, I know that sometimes Joe Rogan gets a little bit of flack because he's always like, he's out, he's out, and then the person escapes.

I will tell you, if you're watching it in person, that's a much harder thing to detect. I know the referee was kind of on top of him, but I'm just going to say, let he who's without sin cast the first stone on this one. I have fucked this one up royally before. However, it just goes back to a very basic point. Like there's a set of protocol in place,

and once a referee waives it, there's no going back. What I will say is BC is that whether or not that rule, should be reviewed and to what extent instant replay could have extended the life of that fight or gone back and done something i was talking about this with long island luke normally bc i don't ever recommend fighters challenging you know something uh for example they don't like a judge's decision in a fight and it'll even be admittedly bad and then they'll want to challenge it with a commission this is a path to nowhere unless the unless the call was you know wrong from an

arithmetic level they're not going to review it or you can prove like collusion among the judge judges, which naturally is going to require a very high evidentiary bar, they're not even going to just entertain what you have to say. But, dude, they might on this one. They might on this one. Jake Matthews might have a call, especially since he ended up losing in the third, which, by the way, do you realize he's never had a three-fight win streak? I'll double check that in a second.

Wow. Consider how long he's been in the UFC. He's never had a three-fight win streak. That's what I'm talking about when we talk about Carlos Olberg a minute ago. These kinds of win-streaks you're seeing are pretty rare. Yeah, yeah, pretty rare indeed. He's had such an interesting career. Go ahead, Long Island.

Jake Matthews was on a three-fight win streak coming into this. Coming into this one. Excuse me, I apologize. How many does he have beyond that? He had another one from 2019 to 2020. Did I read the wrong effing record? Oh, no, no, no. He's probably never had longer than a three-fif.

Longer than a three-fight. Jesus, my Lord, have mercy. Okay. Yeah, you sound like the referee out here. I mean, that guy waived the fight off. I don't care what anybody says. He waved the fight off. And then he acted like he didn't, right?

I mean, and then the announcers were like, well good thing this fight wasn't waved off and i agree it turned into this crazy back and forth fight but it seemed a million times over obvious i mean no cita how much were you sweating during that sequence so literally he called the fight off and brendan fitzgerald on comms is like the fight is off jake matthews wins by submission then neil magnate gets right up his arm went limp that's why the ref stepped in there they played the replay probably three times on the broadcast it's as clear as day the refs says he's out steps in touches the them both a second goes by two seconds go by the horn goes off so it's very clearly before the round

ended i don't know how they let it slide i was saying to luke pre-show it just felt like the ref realized he fucked up neal wasn't actually out so in the moment he just decided oh we'll just pretend that was the end of the round and we'll keep it moving but it's so messed up to everyone should have been a no contest but uh did hit the over so i'll take it yeah but here's a reality either way the referee's fucking somebody because if you stop that fight magni's not out that's a bad stoppage if you keep it going in contravention to the rules well now you're fucking jake matthew so like either way a really bad call by that the ref even if they're hard to do especially now with guys with a very very very very good submission resistance submission defense i

admit it's a it's a difficult task but this is the highest level and you've got to get it right and he didn't that's just yeah i mean if that referee is an ex-marine where there's no such thing he's definitely effing somebody and he's probably paying for it, Luke. I don't even know what that joke is. That was a winding joke to know. Yeah, Osborne did. She knew exactly what that joke was, Luke. Okay.

Those were active duty. Yeah, that's true. There was no payment there. Just shame. All right, that's great right there. Let's hear from UFC's international head, Dave Shaw, who was forced to host the pre-fight press conference, host the post-fight, and here's his opinion on the weird nonstoppage. Is the referee able to continue on the fight after waving it off like that? Yeah, listen, the whole situation was strange.

And I think there was confusion where we were sitting. There are a number of us just talking through the particulars. I think in the end, and I think everyone's going to have a different position. But the fact pattern, as we saw it, was, you know, arm went a little bit, seemed to go a little bit limp, right? Like, you know, Maggie's arm kind of came out and sort of flopped a little bit as if he was about to go out. So my only assumption, and I don't want to speculate, my only assumption is that the the ref assumed that he was going out and seemed to have stopped the fight. I think objectively, and to most people, maybe people have different opinions here, but

it seemed like he stopped the fight, and he stopped the fight importantly before the bell. Now, there didn't seem to be much time before the bell, and so that's where the confusion, you know, started. Jake got off, because of the bell, very clearly, you know, the ref thought, you that Neil was sort of coming to or he was fine and then allowed the fight to to continue so where do we go from here I mean Matthews is he's able his camp's able to lodge some sort of appeal but this is all in the hands of the Western Australian Combat Commission and so it's up to them to determine what the

next step is and honestly I'm not really sure what the scope of the process would be and whether or not they would levy a no decision but there seemed to be a mistake. Now, I should say that over our time in Western Australia, the, you know, Antony Grover and his team have done a tremendous job. And they've been very instrumental in the ongoing progress and regulation of combat sports in this state. And they've been a pleasure to work with. So the only comment I think we should make as the promoter, and by the way, promoter of both athletes, is this is in the hands of the commission to figure out what to do next. look whether or not you liked his answer i'm starting to like david shaw he seems like a sensible person

on that side you know seems like a reasonable fellow right i mean like him does like him maybe he's right maybe he's wrong but it looked like he tried to think that one through and give an honest response well by and large and yeah i agree all right tough break there for jake matthews but you know he's ready to bang regardless that's what he does the old man magney though got the win and it's starting to really add up what neal magey has accomplished over the totality of his career. We can call him a compiler all we want, but he's still the guy you have to go through

at Welterweight to find out if you're legit. And how about this on the all-time wins list, breaking free from the pack, which includes Andre Arlowski, Donald Seroni, Max Holloway, and Dobranks Olivera to become second place all by himself for most wins in UFC history with 24, three away from the still active Jim Miller. And when you consider that Holloway,

olivera probably not close to done yet i mean closer but not close uh i'd have to believe that those standings will change but luke um what do we say here tip of the hat to magni for not giving up he's always in shape he seems to always be evolving his game we have seen his ceiling a bunch of times but that was a pretty gnarly win regardless of that bs nonstoppage dude magni is the ultimate test for like, okay, are you going to be something or not? You know, like that's this where, I mean, that's not always what he's been, but that's certainly what he is now. And if you're, you know, if you're not buttoned up in your game a little bit, he, there's a decent chance he might find it. He's, for the most part, given, you know, talking, he's got a lot of miles on him, but he's

a, I mean, he's like, dude, when everyone talks about like, oh, so-and-so has veteran savvy and, like, what that means. It's, you know, they kind of know what their game is. They kind of know what works and they can't always make it work but if you know they they know the little pockets to and fights to hide and how to advance their attack and you know they just have a clear sense about how to make the circumstances work in their favor he is that he's the apotheosis of that also bc not for nothing he's got some pretty good wins on his resume i mean you call him a compiler and that's that's not unfair but like dude he's got wins over kelvin gastolum he's got wins a stoppage winner of Hector Lombard, a winner of her. And then some of these, you know, are post-prime, but still

Johnny Hendricks. He's got a winner of Carlos Condit, which is certainly post-prime. The Leach, Robbie Lawler, Jeff Neal, D-Rod. Dude, those are good names on his resume. He didn't beat like nothing but chumps on the prelims or something. He had a bite, you know, of the main course here for a little bit and was able to take some home with him. Pretty impressive what he's been able to do. Dude, I'm telling you, these guys who have longevity, they're maybe not the best fighters you've ever seen, but they also understand something about the fight game that most other fighters cannot even imagine. And I really believe that's its own special kind of trait that we should value. Magny kind of has old guy at the park vibes who like sleeps in his

car before the pickup game and then comes out and just like runs it wearing sweatpants with holes in it. He's kind of, he lives the life. So shout out to him. Is this something yet you literally did because that's an oddly specific thing to mention? No, I just from a town where we had, we had a lot of We had a fair amount of people who lived in their car, Luke, you know what I mean? Sometimes you, it was either there or you run a room at the YMCA for 70s. You ever try and sleep in your car overnight? I have done that, yes. Yeah, it's not comfortable.

No, it's one of the worst, especially when it's cold, you know, whatever. But really, that was our choice in our town, your car or the YMCA, you know, if you got thrown out or your parents kicked you out or whatever. You know what I'm saying? It was interesting. Luke, good old, what's his name there? Jake Matthews was the only Aussie to actually lose on this. card. In fact, we had some breakthrough Aussie performances up and down talking just of the down unders, which Ozzy was most impressive in your eyes on set. I would love to hear a long on

Luke has to say on this, especially since he did so well on the betting. I'm going to say Jack Jenkins for me. You know, you've kind of all, I don't know if he's going to be what we had maybe hoped that he would, but definitely he's technical. Definitely he's got a fun, well put together striking game. I love his shot selection. I love his accuracy. He performed really well. I don't have, I mean, Navajo Sterling is supposed to be a big lead heavily prospect. And his fight with Hidalpho Belito, I'm not going to say it was disappointing in the sense that it was a bad fight or it wasn't fun, B.C., it was. But I don't know if I see breakthrough prospect there in Sterling. It's still early. I'm not, I'm not declaring it off, but it's a little slow getting out of the gate for me.

What about you, Long Island, Luke? And by the way, the only other ranked fighter on this, card who was opening the main card lost Loma Luke Boomy. What do you think? Cam Raustin knocking out Andre Petroski. That's the guy for me, dude. Yeah, that was a great performance by him. Yeah. It was weird, though. The shot barely landed.

I know. Well, Petrosky, I don't know what happened to him, but I was saying going into this fight that, like, Cam Raustin, I was impressed by him on Contender Series, but he had lost to Therese Finney. He had lost to someone else who was a good wrestler, and Petrosky's obviously a good wrestler. So I was, like, worried about this matchup, but he looked damn good in there. You're not wrong about Navajo Sterling. kind of looking flat. Jamie Malarkey, I'm, you know, I haven't been. Whatever. Whatever. He's a good fighter,

but whatever. Dude, is Tom Nolan, Australian? Because that guy had a fantastic comeback in that. Yeah, he had a fantastic comeback, but I would never say he looked great because he got dropped in the first minute of that. And then he told everybody to suck his palitos if they don't like his submission games. That was the Aussie versus the Long Islander. So that was, I was torn on that fight. But, you know, Colby thickness looked damn good in round one,

then kind of gassed out a little as that fight went on. Also, also against very questionable. opposition true like a stripper's name right yeah a little bit and then michelle annes or something michelle monta you she's a kiwi she's uh all of her wins had come by submission coming into this so we knew she was going to grapple she took carolina down it was not a great fight there was point deductions all this stuff but uh cam rousin's the answer bc bc i once had a stripper at the spirament rhino tell me her name was aeon and i was like how do you spell that she goes a e o n and i'm like we don't have to pretend like we don't have to do this you can just you can have a normal

name you know doesn't have to be yours but you don't have to like invent things or like borrow from cartoons interesting right there uh anybody else turn your head luke i mean i was looking at luma luke boonmy's four fight win streak there at women's straw wait oh yes elect what is it alexia tinar she came in and turned that around 3027 on all three scorecard definitely definitely and again it's the only other ranked opponent or ranked fighter, I should say, on this card. So that's definitely worthwhile. But in general, dude, this was, this was overflow.

This was overflow. Let's just call, I mean, we don't have to say it's every part of the product, because it's not. But this was overflow. By the way, something to keep in mind, I know the, like, MMA on Point has been, like, doing these graphics where they're like, you know, how many ranked fighters are busy. And it's like 37% are booked. So, like, you know, a huge amount, the majority are not. people have said BC that the UFC must be hoarding some of their talent to go like hard out of the gate in January which to me sounds like a very reasonable

theory would you not agree that there's clearly some reservation of resources right yeah and I and I think they should and I think they will his history has shown that they do that ahead of a first TV deal and I feel like when you're dropping pay per view you already paid for the class action suit new era let's go for it let's let's let's let's load these up all right oh when the suits aren't done though they keep going there's there's other ones still on the docket also um god what was i going to say god damn i forgot what's going to say it doesn't matter fuck it i'll sit here until you remember it luke it'll be great now i'm on the clock and i can't remember what the hell

i was going to say all right whatever all right hey why don't we transition into topic number three you already know that friday will be previewing all things ufc 320 and our pregame preview that will take up the entirety of Friday show. But there's two other events going on here. The big one, though, for the PFL, a very big one that's going down in the UAE on Friday night, a rematch of arguably the best fight in the promotions history. One of the best fights in MMA this calendar year, when Usman or Manga made off, to kick off the year,

won a competitive decision over Paul Hughes, over five rounds for the PFL lightweight title. That's the belt now that is at stake. No more Bellator. This is the official PFL lightweight title. It's a rematch that tops a card featuring two title fights, including Corey Anderson, friend of the show, fighting for the inaugural PFL light heavyweight crown and a rematch with Doblet, Yag Shemuradov. But this is the big matchup. These are arguably, you know, two of the three biggest resources PFL has here in Nirmagamatov and Paul Hughes.

As we look at the odds at the moment, Usman Nirmat, Agamette off minus 166, the betting favorite, plus 130 for Paul Hughes. Luke, let's start here. When you look back at their first matchup, which I've watched a few times now, what is your biggest takeaways? Because if you recall, Usman spent the entire build to that fight saying Hughes wasn't on his level until he found out he was. My takeaway was, is that Hughes, it reminds me of that scene in The Matrix. where they put Neo in the training program and he spars with Morpheus,

but then they make him do the jump. Remember that? And everyone's like, oh, everyone falls the first time, you know? But eventually there comes a moment later in the movie where he begins to believe that he can do things and he can dodge bullets. And he almost has to slowly convince himself that it's real. But once he sees it, he can't unsee it. For Paul Hughes, how do you unsee the real effort that you put?

put in against a very, very, very credible opponent. I don't think that the person who wins this B.C. Because it's actually worth saying is the best lightweight in the world. Maybe they'll end up being it's a little hard to make that argument over someone like Ilya, but certainly a very good fighter is what you're getting out of this. And the elite one is what I would say. And Paul Hughes got to watch himself, yes, come up short, but not in a way where he came up short because, well, you've got a ton of work to do.

I mean, of course, there's a lot of work that has to be done in the camp, but I don't mean like DDP versus Hamzot, where it's like, I don't even know if you can make up that gap. This was tantalizingly close. Now, I know on some of the judges scorecards that, you know, it wasn't enough to claim three solid rounds of performance, but it was enough to be like, I can match up with this guy and neutralize his strengths while pressing mine in a way where if I got another crack at it, you have to believe that he's got a better shot this time, even And if also Nermika Madov can have a better, or at least in theory,

could have a better performance too. The point I'm trying to make is it wasn't awakening. It was this moment where he is like, okay, this actually is very doable. I can actually make this happen. Now, whether or not he prepared correctly and whether or not, you know, this is going to be that moment to get it done, we shall see. But the big takeaway from that one is Paul Hughes was not the better guy overall on that night, probably not, but is,

had a moment of recognition about what he can be. And it started with that disappointing loss. Yeah, and no doubt about it. Now, Usman is 27 years old, one of the best lightweights on the planet. And he did improve to 19 and 0 with one no contest and that majority decision win in January. One judge scoring it even,

the other two judges just scoring it 48, 46 for Nirmaga Madoff. I believe that Nirmaga Madoff really brought it down the stretch in round five to take that round clearly. and that was the difference on my scorecard three rounds to two. But in so many ways you can argue that Paul Hughes won that night because of the ascension of how he was getting better with each fight. He defeated A.J. McKee and then he went in there against probably the best fighter pound for pound that PFL has and rallied back in those middle rounds.

The body shots were a big part of it. I interviewed both fighters when this fight was announced and they are still very contentious when talking about each other. Here's Usma and Magamatov looking back on their fight in January and realizing the mistakes that he made that he feels led to this being a close fight. Well, I'm not surprised about this fight game. You know, like, I know what I did, which mistakes I did. I was watching this fight and I see a lot of my mistakes, you know.

And it was not my best shape too. And this time, I was in my time. very good camp now I'm in Dagestan next this this weekend next week I'm here and after that I'm going to move to Dubai for last night three or week and this time it's going to be different I'm I'm training so hard and now I'm here and I'm of course I'm with my family here and I see I see how they worry about me and I don't want to make them so nervous this time and we'll see around me have very good guys good teachers and uh all my team and this time it's definitely it's gonna be different can you share what those mistakes were

the first time that you just mentioned well you remember in second round like i beat in first round like clean just kick moving okay but not second round I just I tried to hold his neck but I'm not thrown knee and there is his landed couple punches on my body and after that it's it's it it wasn't my plan for this fight you know I did something wrong and and and uh with takedowns I I spent a lot of energy. But this time, we're going to, we change it everything. We changed everything.

Like, we changed it striking. We change it. Cringe. We're going to be like, like, very, very good shape this time. Luke, I think he's trying to say, because if you recall, he seemed to dominate Hughes in the striking in the first round of their first meeting. Then you saw slowly. Hughes work his way back in. I mentioned those body shots. It looked like Usman was gassed in the

middle of this fight. It felt like he wanted to say it without really fully saying it that he had an awful training camp the first time around. I'm not sure if there were injuries that led up to that. But it's almost the same dilemma we're in when looking at the second ankle eye of Poetan fight in regards to what Poetan's now saying about how he was compromised. Do you agree with Usman here that he realizes maybe he took Hughes for granted, maybe he undertrained, maybe he was hurt, whatever, but that he's not going to make the mistake the second time around, or are you sensing a bit of delusion in him? No, I think he took him lightly.

I think he took him lightly, not like so lightly that he didn't train enough. I mean, he trained enough to win, right? He did enough of the job to get his hand raised, but it wasn't enough to close the book, which is why we're right back here. You know, and again, that's also partly due to the brilliance that night of Paul Hughes, even in a losing effort. But, dude, he took him lightly. And you could tell after the fight, I'll never forget,

there was one time where, you know, Phil Barone, who's, I think, in Mexican jail for allegedly killing his girlfriend. But he famously, like, beat the hell out of Evan Tanner, but then gassed. And then the first thing that Evan Tanner said when they interviewed him was like, holy God, that guy hits hard. And you can listen to some of the stuff that U.S. said afterwards and Habib as well that that one was uncomfortably close for them and you could tell it was uncomfortably close because you know his ability to hit what they thought was his next

gear was not there and whether that was injury BC whether was it not enough road work whether it was whatever and also before this fight they were like why you know why is he a big deal then afterwards remember it's like well you know I don't really have to do anything for this guy which is common for champion talk, but there's just been this tenor of distance and to a degree dismissiveness except for right away post-fight when the tenor then all of a sudden shifted. That tells you the ball game. That gives it away. Yeah. This rematch is in Dubai where it was the first time. This will air Friday during actually our pregame preview of morning combat as the main card begins at 11.30 a.m. Eastern. The main card starts at 1130? That's what I'm finding on the internet.

Yes, live from Dubai there on Friday. We also have Usman getting back to his sassy trash talk ways in saying how this fight will end for Hughes. I think you remember this. Paul Hughes, yes, this is fight. Of course, he punched me. Of course, I will feel this. Of course he's going to hurt me.

But what's the reason? He'll lose this fight. He was crying. Well, I'm going to make him crying again. Well, there you go. He's going to make him cry again. Well, I was able to relay that information to Paul Hughes, who, of course, has a different feeling where he feels that Usman is breakable.

He felt he came close to the first fight. Here's Paul Hughes saying about what he's going to do on Friday. How will this fight ultimately be different? I mean, he's not going to take you lightly, but considering it was such a stale. me over five rounds the first time with the judges being, you know, ultimately split considering it was a majority decision.

How will this rematch be different in your eyes? How this rematch will be different is ultimately I will break him at some point in this fight. No question. Whether that is round three or whether that is round five, I truly, truly

believe that I'm going to put the pressure on that man early. I'm going to make him fight once again. I'm going to make him scramble for his life for every single position and I am not going to get off him until I have him broken. Damn. Okay. All right. I mean, let's go right there, right? Wow. Paul would continue to close here talking about what he felt when he was hurting Erma Agamette off to the body the first time around. Yeah, I think that he was, I think I almost had him broken. And I think that, you know,

you watch that fight back you look at rounds four and five just before that head clash happened at the very end of round four where he had a three minute recovery you've seen that you've seen the momentum change you've seen that i had started to get my groove that i was just simply walking him down he did not have the energy to take me down or to grapple with me anymore and that i was in my groove and i was landing the devastating shots the head clashed happened he got a little bit of energy conserved back up again the fifth round was close some judges gave it to me some judges gave it to him. I think that I almost

almost hadn't broken last time. But, you know, this time the odds may go in my favor with something like that. You know, these things happen, and this is why we love fighting, because these things just fucking happen. And ultimately, whether

odds go in my favor or not next time, I know that over five rounds, I can't get them out of there. So Luke, speaking to him saying these things just fucking happened, I did go back and rewatch the fight immediately after interviewing him. And he's right. The momentum was firmly in his favor when that errant headbutt paused the action for three minutes. In hindsight, do you believe that's what gave Usman the gas back to hold him off in round five with two judges scoring it for Usman,

one for Hughes? It's a good question. It's a good question. I'm not sure. Well, I'm not sure. This is a problem. Like, I'm not, I would love to hear what the judges thought were the meaningful differences between them in order to give you a better sense of that. I don't know. The question you have to ask yourself is this. Is this going to look like the first fight? I don't mean, you know, you might pick Usen, you might not, but like, is it going to have the similar kind of complexion of the first fight? Or this is one going to be, like, real different.

For example, of course, it's a very different example, but the first fight between Islam and Volk did not look like the second fight between them, right? they were very different, whereas you can think of certain rematches where the first one kind of closely followed the second one. If the first one, if the second one closely follows the first one, I would favor Usman to win this one. I really think that I'm just, and it's kind of like a circular way of getting to the answer BC, but the point I'm just trying to make is, in order to get to a meaningfully different place with the judges, this has to look like a meaningfully different fight overall, to start in the middle, and if it goes long at the end, it has to be under much better terms for Paul Hughes, which means much more pressure and, frankly, much more forcing

of boxing range through pressure. And then, of course, means resisting takedowns and everything else. Like, that's what that has to happen here. And I don't really know if it will, but I can't wait until see you on Friday to find out. Yeah, Long Island Luke, I'm sure you definitely saw that first fight. It was a classic. We talked about the odds with Usman being a minus 166 favorite to the plus 130 Hughes. I can be talked into the idea that that wasn't the best of Usman and now he'll have no excuse but to bring that does that sway you betting wise into sticking with the d'agastans here yeah i kind of feel like if you guys remember they were doing that stare down for the first fight and usman said some shit to him like i can't even remember what he said like

and he paul hughes then looks at the camera he's like he's overlooking me he's overlooking me like he clearly went into that first fight overlooking him i think he's going to have a way better game plan this time usman by decision it's probably plus money i don't think it's dropped yet But that's going to be my bet. LT, we could argue, of course, that, you know, Dakota Ditch of arguably the most important fighter to build on for PFL moving forward. PFL's John Martin told me, we played the clip there and talked about it that he doesn't know if Francis wants to fight MMA anymore.

What do you think is a better result here for the PFL? Usman and Margamatov staying unbeaten and you've got a strong member of that extended Abdulmanabtri that includes Islam Mahachev and the other Nirmagamadoffs or Paul Hughes getting the win considering the draw he is in Ireland and considering that you're probably going to get a trilogy pretty soon after if he does. Man, that's a great question. I mean, I think the probably default answer would be because of the Nirmagamadov name, you're likelyer to want to go in that direction.

That's interesting. On the other hand, you know, I do think that there might be some North American fatigue with how much, not with Usman per se, but with just how much the American fight game has declined. And, you know, actually, what am I saying? Paul Hughes is Irish. So that's, you know, he's a native English speaker. So kind of the point I'm trying to make versus not.

So there's less cultural distance. But, um, I honestly, probably the Nirmigamehamehadoff thing, right? I mean, dude, what's going to keep Habib coming back to PFL shows? Paul Hughes? You know what I mean? Like, no. In terms of building a fan base, you know, there probably is some real value to milk out of having a member of the first family of MMA on your roster.

That being said, BC, that being said, to your point, Paul Hughes already pretty damn popular in Ireland, you could really blow that out. And I think you could build on that in some other markets as well. I think Paul Hughes could kind of carry over. So I think, listen, this is not like boxing where it's Bob Aram's fighter versus Don King's fighter. They both compete for the same person. So in the end, they can milk it either way.

Probably the answer is Usman because of the last name. A little known fact that Paul Hughes was born to two Irish people in Australia. No, Cedar, does that bring your father or his libido into this conversation? No, but I did forget that. That's a good call. Maybe I'll dabble a little bit on Paul Hughes at plus one. There you go. There it is right there.

What is he again? How much plus is he? He's only a plus 130, Paul Hughes. Wow. Wow. I kind of feel like it's going to be another close competitive fight, but Usman is slightly the better fighter here. Yeah, that's interesting.

Oh, I can't wait. Fun. Tank is refilled and he can wrestle more. That could also be a difference maker here. Yeah, for sure. All right. As we continue on this card, Luke, there's a couple other fights worth mentioning.

Are you going to be moved at all about the Beast? Beast in Trump. What is him again, Luke? What is the old thing? Beast in 20, dude, he's not Beast in 24-7. that's beast in 24-7 is for lazy people he's beast in 25 8 he'll go oh yeah he'll go overtime if you needed it it's Corey Anderson we love Corey but that's a funny nickname sorry it's the best you remember of course

he fought for the Bellator light heavyweight title and came up empty there in that two-fight series with Nemcoff he wants the trilogy is willing to do it at light heavyweight I did talk to him on my channel you can check that chat out but Luke he's had a decorated career exited the U.S. UFC after a long win streak turned into a knockout and then he had that accident where he fell found the financial freedom he was looking

for. This would be a feather in his cap if he can go out there, beat Yag Shemuradov a second time and be the official PFL light heavyweight champion. This is a good opportunity for him. This is a great opportunity for him. I think being with the PFL, you know, hasn't necessarily blown up his profile, but I

think it's been good for his pocketbook. He is absolutely one of the best light heavyweights in the world. BC. That's not that's not hyperbole. He absolutely is one of the best heavy weights in the world. And, you know, I don't know if Yovlitz Dan Yag Shimuradov. I don't know if he's exactly the guy to take that from him. They already fought in Bellator. Corey kind of tooled him a little bit. So I

think this is, you know, a great opportunity for him. But dude, he's a fighter of this caliber who's this hungry deserves to be decorated. He's got a great shot at it on Friday. Well, that lost their first meeting back in 2021. That was Yag Shimuradav's Bellator debut. It was in the quarterfinal of that Grand Prix. He got stopped in the third round.

He would then lose his next fight to Carl Albrexan and then rip off a seven-fight win streak across Belator and PFL that takes him to where he is right now. He's coming off a first round knockout of Impa Kisanganae last year that won him the PFL light heavyweight tournament. He beat Rob Wilkinson, beat Raphael Carvalio, Julius and Glecas. So he's beating.

some names that we know. This should be an interesting test right here for both of them. And then how about this Bantamweight tilt? Magummed, Mogummedoff against Sergio Pettis. I don't hate that at all. No, I don't hate that one, although that is one that I think one of the matchups we didn't get, but could, in theory, could get with a bansom weight tourney. And of course, there was a bantamweight tour. So this is something of an interesting period that you could have got there. But the one I'm actually more interested in B.C. is not that one. It's actually Archie Colgan taking on J.J. Wilson, the one right above that. Dude, Archie Colgan, Division 1 wrestler, there's not many of those guys. Actually, I'm not sure

if University of Wyoming is Division 1 and Division 2. I think it's Division 1. I have to double check. But in any case, undefeated, looks the part. A phenomenal record. Taking on JJ Wilson, who is probably the best Kiwi fighting outside of the UFC. I don't know if that's fair or not. Maybe Long Island Luke disagrees. But J.J. Wilson is a very good fighter. Different style. So he's more like, you know, boxer, jiu-jitsu, kickboxer, jih Tzu type, whereas Colgan, a little more boxer wrestler. But this one has fun written all over it.

As I mentioned, Colgan, 12, and O, J.J. Wilson, just 11 and 1. So I love that fight. That's one of the better fights they can make. Dude, the matchmakers did a good job with this one, for sure. Yeah, that is Mike Kogan, right? The matchmaker? Yeah. I'm not sure if he's got, I think he's got a team now, but I do believe it's headed by

Colgan, yes. Well, they also have this preliminary fight that some people are getting into as the Go Artem Lobov returns for a 165-pound catchweight out against Zubaira Tuka-Gov. Luke, that's like a rematch of Connor Habib, is it not? Yeah, a little bit. Zubaira, I think, was with that team for a while. That's not, that's not false. I'm pretty sure Zubaira was the one who started that whole thing where they all surrounded Artem leading to Connor, then coming with the Dolly the next thing. They're milking the controversy. You know, they're milking the controversy.

However, Artem Lobov, God bless them, 14, 15, and 1. You know, not the best record I've ever seen. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. He did be Pauley and Bear Knuckle, although that was disputed, highly, highly disputed. Also this weekend, speaking of Bearknuckle, I got to be honest, LTI, I didn't know this was happening until Noseeta reminded me. And I like what BKFC does. This is a big one for them.

BKFC 82 is sad. Saturday going head to head with UFC 320, it takes place in Newark. They might as well put it in Newark, Penn, if you know what I mean. And it's Mike Perry versus Jeremy Stevens in the main event. Frankie Edgar comes out of retirement to bare-knuckle Jimmy Rivera and the Comain. Of course, there's that wild female fight that we played a lot of have you seen the shit sounds of Christine Farreya defending her women's Bannonway title against Jessica Borga. That's it for the most part for names on this card.

Luke, will you care in any form on Saturday? No, no, I will not care. I mean, I'll care in the sense that I hope Frankie doesn't get laid out. I'll say that. Other than that, well, I'm lying. I mean, I'm fucking lying, right? I mean, I'm going to catch a stream at some point, right? I won't pause the stream.

I'll at least catch the highlights. At a bare minimum, I'll catch the highlights. I'll say that. But I won't, I'm not going to spend time away from my family to watch it. I mean, I'll tell you that, you know. Yeah, you're like, I'm going to spend time away from my family to watch UFC 320 at the same time. Let me say this. Let me say this. I look this up and I want to just, it's got nothing to do with this particular fight,

but you mentioned there's BKFC. Tomorrow, tomorrow is a contender series. It's episode, a week eight. And in the middle of the card is Elizer Kubanzah, taking on this dude I've been talking about Christopher Alvidras, Chris Alvedrez. Now, Chris Alvydras is raw. I don't know, I don't know much about his opponent. And I don't even know if he's favorite to win this long Island, on Luke. But I called his last

fight at XFC. That dude is good. That dude is good, explosive, hungry and really, really unorthodox game. He fought a UFC veteran in his last fight with us at XFC, with them, it's not my promotion, but with them, and smoked

the guy. He's a fat dog right now, plus 220. Yeah. Alvydra. He's a plus 220? Yes, sir. Wow. I got to learn more about his opponent because that's surprising to hear. fucking good. There you go. Long out, Luke, letting us know that Wyoming is D1, Luke, okay? Yeah, I thought so. I just, I couldn't remember, but I thought so. All right. Well, that is what's

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Limited time offers C-terms at pick-6.draft kings.com slash promos. All righty then, let's go to topic number four. This ain't a good topic to talk about, but it did happen, and it is getting a lot of attention. UFC and Pride legend von der Leis Silva took part in an exhibition boxing match in Brazil on Saturday against former boxing world champion Acelino Popo Fretas. And Vondolet got viciously knocked out in a post-fight brawl that took place because Vondolet was disqualified for multiple headbutts during the bout. Fabricio Verdume took part in it.

The elements to the story as they got spread around social media with the highlights, they were disgusting. And it was actually Freitas's son that ended up knocking out Vondelais Silva clean, During the melee, he would go on to post pictures with a broken eye socket and a bunch of other issues. And don't forget, this was the same fighter who wrote publicly in the class action lawsuit about the CTE that is compromising his lifestyle right now. So Silva's opponent was outweighed by roughly 40 pounds. This was originally supposed to be Silva against Vitor Belfort. And Luke, I mean, what do we even say?

It's an old guy exhibition. We see a lot of this. Julio Cesar Chavez Senior, Eric Morales. I mean, a lot of these guys are doing these. Roy Jones and Mike Tyson as well. Should athletic commissions at home and abroad consider the legislation that would more closely regulate these or maybe even outright ban them because the footage we have to show here is just gnarly and ridiculous.

Let's check out first the weigh-in photo before Luke weighs in. You see Vondri-Lay at 206, fraytas, a former 130-pound and, feather weight fighter came in at 162. Can I jump in real quick? Vitor Belfour was supposed to be the opponent and fell out. So Freitas filled in. You would imagine that Vitor, I just broke with me, would have been closer in weight, but they just had to scramble and this is what they got.

And here's the aftermath, of course. Vondelet posting just some awful pictures. Luke, this is what you get when you do shit like this that shouldn't happen. There was no headgear here. This was just straight up, old guys getting. after it. I know it happened in a melee, not the fight, but von der Leys no victim ultimately here. He headbutted enough to get disqualified. I don't even know why Fabricio Verduem was involved, but he was throwing haymakers too. How do you even react to this?

This should be illegal. This should be illegal. The state in Brazil as well regulates combat sports. Folks often ask, you know, why is combat sports regulated by the government or why should to be regulated. I mean, this is an example of the state failing, but this also gives you an example of why it's important that there should be, at least in theory, a regulatory power over this activity because these people cannot be trusted on their own to do this the right way. Guys, what the fuck is? I mean, this is why, honestly, BC, like, I know that the rule is that they're going to do it around as an exhibition, and they're both relatively young. But, like, if you've got guys over the age of 40 and there's a 40-pound weight difference,

That's like, and the guy who's in the main event has said in court documents that he suffers from CTE has already had it. And we know flatlined by Crow Cop, flatlined by a rampage and then TKO'd by Rampage at a later time, was badly rocked by Stan, was obviously, you know, finished off by Vitor, was flatlined by Hendo, was flatlined. I mean, I think he's been flatlined four different times. by the way, basically flatlined by Crazy Horse, to say nothing of all to shoot-to-box Jim Wars. That fight should have been fucking illegal. It should have been illegal. It should have been

against the law to allow something like that to happen. Because then, as you point out, B.C., van der Leigh, a sympathetic character in the sense that he's suffering from all this stuff, and then gets viciously laid out yet again, right, and has this terrible thing happen to him. But at the same point,

dude, those headbutts were not ambiguous. Sometimes headbutts in boxing, you know, little hard to tell sometimes in slow motion, this guy's career started in headbutting with valetudo and he's now here after all of this brain trauma and he's headbutting people. He should be banned from combat. He should not be allowed to fight again. And honestly, BC, not just for misconduct, really that's not even the most important part, for his own health, for his own health. The Brazilian government, to the extent that they have regulatory athletic power to regulate this kind of thing, they should prohibit him from ever competing again. A way.

Weight discrepancy like this with someone who has put in public record that they're suffering from this, who's been laid out that many times. How the fuck is that legal? Why should that be legal? It's it's it's it's it's deeply obvious in person not just a disaster because the the brawl happened or because there was a disqualification, but that the risk you ran with putting a guy like that in there just leads to unhealthy outcomes BC one way or the other. I mean, look, people forget that like this crossover bubble that Jake Paul's still the face of like it really started in terms of major prominence with Roy Jones and Mike Tyson in 2020 and we were even rightfully so a little nervous about that fight it turned out to kind of be a win for Tyson and they both look decent and it was whatever but you knew that bubble was going to burst eventually because not only are those largely shit fights but somebody could really get hurt I mean I guess in hindsight for all the shit we rightfully threw at Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul which let me again remind people was an officially official fight not an exhibition and for as much shit as we gave jake for carrying mike to the finish line what did i want in return mike to be knocked out cold no i mean what are we talking about with vondelet we're talking about a guy who had a 22 year mma career fought 51 times lost 14 of them was knocked out in seven of them was known for being an all or nothing brawler for a lot of his career went through a a gauntlet in his prime with pride before going to the UFC and just being matched up.

Even in his later years with, you know, with Bellator and the tail end of the UFC was just getting thrown in there against ferocious brawlers because that's what he did. If anybody should not have been sanctioned. And then you don't even, not even to mention the comments that he gave on the record about the class action lawsuit. It's criminal, criminal. I mean, there's one thing to do the chale in Anderson-Sovil when they recently did that charity boxing match whatever it was exhibition that was pro wrestling that was a hundred percent

pro wrestling if this turned out to be that whatever but enough enough of this shit i mean i love meleys i love ridiculousness in sports but vanderlea got clocked a couple times before he got laid out and now he's dealing with in numerous more issues that oh by the way were brought on completely by himself for how he acted during that fight let's let's have a uncomfortable conversation how does this end for Vanderlai Silva? That's probably as worse as possible. Like everyone out there should expect a worst case scenario. And if it's not, we're lucky.

Because they're taking these fights in a lot of instances because they need the money. There's no pensions in this game. There's no, you know, we already know all that. But there's also this addiction to get back in there and do the only thing they know how to do. And if no one's going to step in there and stop them, what are we doing here? No, but I don't even mean that. I mean, like, in terms of his brain health, like, how, like, look at what's happening with BJ Penn, you know, I think it all ties in, Luke.

I think it ties into that, what I'm saying, like, you keep letting people do this, they keep adding more trauma to their brain, you're going to have junior say all moments, you know what I mean, you're going to have BJ Penn moments, you know? We should say that out loud, like, again, I'm obviously in BC as well. We're not wishing for this. We dread it with every fiber of our being. We hope that it never, ever even gets close. But just even if this had not. happened bc just think realistically after all that trauma he took just in his professional mima career and again shoot a box was known for having legendary gym wars they were the gym war crew before you know more civilized relatively speaking forms of training began to emerge inside of top mima gyms they were known for hammering each other and then on top of that you have this that long story career and now this kind of stuff is happening how do folks think this is going to end. How do you think his life is going to look like at its last chapter? There is no way it's not

some form of a disaster. And that could be a disaster, not just for him, but the folks around him and God only knows who else. This is so fucking bad for him. This is so bad, frankly, for a society to allow these kinds of things to just have gone on as long as they have and now even here. Vanderley Silva's life is headed towards a direction that is darker than any of us have the ability to even grasp at this point and I am frankly terrified of watching that unfold BC. Yeah, and I'm glad you didn't grab the video in hindsight for this

because it was disturbing to watch. You had that like, oh shit moment at first and then you could take the totality of it and you're just like, this is grow. I mean, look, he was flatlined by that punch by this kid i mean like flatline dude people don't realize this vanderlay would never had great defense but up until he really got his chin cracked he had like a very resilient chin he was known for being able to just eat punishment and keep going and then once that finished off his career was up

and down at that point but um you know he got i think it was back to back if i'm not mistaken he got head kick coed by crow cop and then got laid the fuck out when the next fight when Dan Henderson was able to get two titles at the same time. He was actually the first champ champ, champ. It's when he laid out Vandrelay in another of just, you know, again, it wasn't just, B.C., he didn't walk across the ring and punch him. They had a war before that. You know what I mean? Like, it's all this fucking damage.

And then there are, this is, this guy is being allowed to compete. It is, it is so fucking unethical that this was allowed to happen. Thank you very much for saying that. I mean, he may be 49, which is old as shit for the fight game anyway, but I scared to find out what his brain ages. You know what his brain health moment? Like, I mean, it's just, ah, that's it for topic number four. Let's go to topic number five.

Big time breaking news this morning, of course. UFC CEO Dana White announcing that Zufa boxing is coming and starting in January. Of course, the partnership with Saudi Arabia, Turk Al-Shek and Sela was announced in March. But now they have an inaugural broadcast home, and that is on Paramount Plus with the idea of some cards potentially being simulcasted on CBS, very similar to the UFC deal recently signed there. The terms of the arrangement are not fully known. What some have reported is it's a five-year deal.

What we do know is year one, we'll have 12 cards in a monthly series that'll air on Paramount Plus with the idea of adding more cards in the future as they go on. I had a lengthy interview with Dana White. We're going to play some audio from that that you can check out on. YouTube on the CBS Sports HQ channel where I tried my best to get a lot of information out of him. But to be fair, they're still figuring out a lot of this on the fly. Him and Nick Khan with Turkey Alashik's backing are the brains behind this.

So first and foremost here, Luke, what do you believe this means for boxing? We've heard Dana's coming a mile away for years. Now we're pairing him together with Turkey Alishik, with TKO's muscle, with Nick Kahn's, you know, business intellect. what are we expecting to kick off next year for the world of boxing? I mean, that's an interesting one, right? So, like, it seems like, you know, Dana's laid this out, as you articulated, the idea is you have a, they're comparing it to contender series.

I guess it's something akin to that. And then once you graduate, you go into the pipeline to fight for Turkey L. Shake, right? So that's the planned path. I mean, I have a lot of questions about this. Like, to what extent, like, what are the contracts going to look like? what is pay going to look like? What does a contract with Zufa boxing do in terms of locking you into a contract with Turkey?

So like there's a quite like what's what's that continuity, right? Because could you fight twice for Zupa boxing and win both times? And then they offer you a fight with Turkey. And I'm just, I'm just imagining something. You could decline it to go to top rank. Like how does that, how does that even work? You know, but because it's a UBO, I'm going to guess they're going to create a UBO if the legislation passes, it remains to be seen.

So I don't really know what that looks like. Also, a bigger question for me is a couple of things. things. One, what does this do to Dana's bandwidth in MMA, which has already been stretched noticeably thin? Now, of course, BC, you know as well as I do. The kickoff in January and for the early part of that deal, he's going to be there. Obviously, UFC White House, he'll be front and center, all that stuff, right? But, you know, he's one man. There's 24 hours in a day. How was he going to split that? I mean, I did ask him that, Luke. We don't have the video to play it, but he did say ultimately that he's 56, his daughter went off to college this fall in Miami, his

boys are older and on their own. He said he's just going to throw himself into it and grind like he knows how and be everything all at once. Now, obviously, I think that means we're going to see him pull away a bit more from UFC, even though he didn't say that. You're seeing David Shaw more. You're seeing John Anna Coastmore press conferences. I think you'd have to believe Hunter Campbell's going to get a big push out of this scenario, right? Yeah, who knows? Max Kellerman as a TKO kind of voice could as well. The other part about that is BC is now, from what I saw on the press release, I read it this morning and I shared it on Twitter as well, that, you know, this is going to be on

Paramount Plus, obviously, and that some of these might go on CBS. So why would you put a contender series event on CBS? I guess I don't understand that. Like CBS is only taking for UFC numbered events. And, you know, maybe they'll put the prelims on there too, but what they're really interested in is of course the main event or I should say the main card rather like that makes a lot of sense are you really going to put contender series fights there so like the way in which this has been described doesn't I don't I guess I would just have I'm not saying it doesn't make sense I'm saying

we don't have enough information to fully get a grasp because what they're saying seems at least in part a little bit contradictory it is but I think Dana has somewhat clarified that in recent months with what you said the idea that this will be you know he wants to rip up boxing from the ground floor rebuild it yes this will be the the house of the creating the new stars for tomorrow to put them on reaad season and ring magazine cards but um yeah i don't know what that means i don't know if if there could be quarterly cards on cbs that involve turkey fighters as well or if this is just a zupa boxing thing because remember we're going to see two to four big events a year on netflix in which zufa fighters will make up the undercard so it's really a lot of that is

unknown like you're saying, when will that sort of full emergence between Zufa boxing and what Turkey's doing happen? I think obviously they're going to have to really establish themselves first. Dana keeps comparing it to UFC's Tuesday night fights, and I don't hate that comparison. If Zufo boxing becomes

sort of a monthly all-action prospect versus prospect thing like he wants to do, it potentially can be exciting. Luke, before we hear from Dana about a number of things, including the Aliak part of this, what do you think this means overnight, you know, essentially for for Paramount CBS. Like, unfortunately, we were a big part of what they were doing on Showtime and under the old ownership, they were forced to sunset Showtime to stay alive financially. And now less than two years later, they're almost in a premier position in combat. Yeah, I mean, what's the benefits of merger? I mean, you would be able to answer this question better than me. Like, what is the internal sense? That, that we're going huge on the coverage of this. Obviously, we know how much they paid for the UFC. We don't know the

financial details of this Zufa boxing package, although I think it's been a rumored to be around 152 million over five years, or 200 million, excuse me, over five years. But I've got to believe this is a major shift in the broadcasting landscape here, combat sports-wise, in terms of, you know, the Ellison's coming in here with Skydance and trying, you know, as you read sometimes trying to turn Paramount into something that's competing directly with Netflix and Prime, not necessarily just its other sporting counterpart points. Yeah, I mean, you know, Paramount Plus has a bigger reach than ESPN Plus, but is a lost leader, and for a while was hemorrhaging money, and they're trying to fix that. And I think bringing in a dedicated army of combat sports fans certainly gets you a long way.

Again, they're already, John Nash believes that there's no possible way for Paramount to make their money back with the UFC deal, but that's their cross-to-air. They can figure that out. It remains to be seen what it's going to be costing for the Zupa boxing side of things. They didn't announce any monetary figure on this deal. Again, I guess we'll get some more of that going forward. It's certainly positioned CBS and Paramount, at least in North America. I mean, BC, we've talked about it. Like, take out Paramount for a second.

Imagine UFC still with ESPN and blah, blah, blah. Like the way in which corporate media has pulled back from both MMA and boxing is, I think you would agree, based on where it was at a high watermark, pretty alarming. It's a significant drawdown. However, it has now, in the American side of things, kind of all just landed in a single home. Now, we don't know what's going to happen with top rank at ESPN or any other place they might end up going to. We don't know what's going to happen with PFL at ESPNBC. But certainly, by the time January 1, 2026 rolls around, CBS and Paramount are the leaders in combat sports by a country mile in North America and arguably even the world, given the portfolio of what they're going to have access to.

who we'll see what happens from there. Indeed, big news here. Let's hear from Dana. What should boxing fans expect? Here's Dana White. When I was a massive boxing fan, I used to watch USA's Tuesday night fights. I talk about it all the time.

It was one of my favorite shows of all time. And all the big boxing stars of the 90s and pay-per-view came off of that show. I felt like back then there were very competitive fights with guys who should have been fighting each other at that time. And that's what I want to do. I mean, basically as a boxing fan, the way that the UFC was built was all the things that I loved about boxing and all the things that I hated about boxing is how I built, you know, the UFC and the sport. So I would expect a lot of what you saw

early on in the UFC to happen with boxing now. But it's different. You know, being aligned with with Saudi Arabia and shake turkey always wanting to put on these fights that that nobody sees coming or fights that people don't think can be made is part of the fun of it too indeed indeed uh that doesn't sound like i gotta say that doesn't sound like contender series to me no i i mean much bigger yeah that's what i'm saying it is something much bigger but it's still an idea to look he said that that him and nick con met and they've got a list of 450 the fighters that they're going to go after. He wasn't able to confirm.

We know they're going to lower the weight divisions. It's currently 17 or 18, if you count bridge weight in boxing. And they want to significantly lower that. We know that they don't want to use the four sanctioning bodies and the traditional title system, which is why the Ali Act changes and the amendments will need to happen for them to award their own championships, which is a controversial topic unto itself.

But I did specifically ask him, you know, will they be working with other promoters or is this going to be a league on its own fighter sign with just them and they only compete against each other. Here's what Dana had to say. Yeah, I don't really know yet. Listen, I live in my own little bubble. I'm going to do my thing.

I'm not worried about what any of those guys are doing. And to be honest with you, I think those guys are all, they don't think big enough. They don't think big enough. These guys have been in the business for however long. And I like Eddie Hearn. And I, listen, I see what Eddie Hearn. Eddie Hearn went like Oscar De La Jolla overnight, you know, but he's got a lot of attention.

So I get it. But I like Eddie. And but I think those guys all think small. They don't think the way that I think. You know, I had Bob Aram and, you know, a bunch of those guys in the past saying that this model was ridiculous and it's a joke. The sport's a joke. It's never going to make it. And, you know, all the things that they've said.

but when you look at what we've done, we've done things that have never been done ever and the combat sports industry. And I say it all the time, tell me a business or sport that has generated trillions of dollars in revenue. And at the end of the day, there's absolutely nothing there.

That is the sport of boxing in a nutshell. And I just, you know, all the guys that want to compete with me and all this stuff, I think way bigger than you guys do. So I'm not competing with the other promoters. I'm competing with whatever takes the attention of the fans on the night that we're on television. It could be a release of a big movie.

It could be the NFL. It could be your wife or your girlfriend that you got to take out that night. Your kids, that's my competition. Luke, are you feeling like when he says stuff like that, like they're not thinking big enough? And in some cases, I do wonder if he's right here. I just made that mention that at some point, it's all going to probably merge together.

I wonder if we start off as sort of a prospect builder, build fighters that will graduate to Turkey. But don't you get the feeling that long term if Turkey and Dana are going to partner together for this much money with this much at stake, that it's going to be Zufo Boxing, the UFC of boxing, and that's where Turkey, Dana, Nick Conn, and all the fighters will live. Like, I feel like that's the end game, right?

I just don't see how, I mean, I can see how there would be ways that some separation would exist in the business over time. It's not to say that they'll be exactly the same and they're going to merge and automatically. I mean, Turkey's already still part of Zupa boxing, even at this level anyway. So, I mean, there's really no firewall. But you know what I mean? Like, it just becomes one seamless operation. I can imagine there be some ways that would be departed.

But like, what is the natural conclusion of what, if he's thinking this big, right, and you're partnered with that entity, what other direction does it go unless it just fails right so if it fails okay fine but if it keeps going like just imagine what the inevitable conclusion is and sometimes that can be hard to do a year two three five 10 years out but that's just what it that's just where it's all headed they're not trying to and it's a related conversation and we don't have to delve into it express it right now but i just want to bring up they're not trying to change federal law so they can have a small footprint they're not trying to do these things where they're partnering with this enormous fund of wealth to have a small footprint.

All of this is designed. Again, what about what Dana White has built in UFC, even if you love every part of it, what about that has been small in scale and small in ambition? Nothing. Why would that change now? Yeah, that's why wouldn't we talk about the possibility of simulcasts on CBS? What if Turkey gives him a, you know, Shakur versus Teo type main event? You fill the undercard with Zufo fighters.

you put that live and free on CBS. I wonder if we're headed in that type of direction. That's right, yes. Big news right there. And, of course, the elephant in the room is the Ali Act and whether the changes that have been proposed to Congress that are supposed to be looked at later this year are going to be necessary for or not to happen

for Zufo boxing to happen. I asked Dana. Dana, boxing seems to be split over the proposed amendments to the Muhammad Ali Reform Act that it's expected to be presented. in front of Congress later this year. It already has bipartisan support. We've seen a lot of people split on this.

How important are these changes to be made to the idea of you having success launching this league in 2026? Well, let's be clear. There will be zero changes to the Muhammad Ali Act. Not one word will be changed in the Muhammad Ali Act. We're going to add on to it. So the guys who, you know, guys being fighters that one, want to fight under the Muhammad Ali Act, exactly the way it is, we'll have that opportunity to do that.

And then, or you can bet on me and fight with me under our version of the Muhammad Ali Act. So that thing's been blown a lot out of proportion, and I get it. And I knew people were going to freak out because that's what people do. But yeah, what was the question? I said, do you need those changes to happen to launch your league in 2026? no or or the amendments that you want to add on right right uh no but we're doing it listen the mob dali act was put in place with all good intentions and uh but i think that it's it's held the business back so look in some ways we already know knew what he said to be true but i guess

he's just spelling it out even more the old ali act will stay what it is you can stay with the four sanctioning bodies and whatever promoters are not going to be part of or whatever fighters and promotions are not going to be connected to Zufo Boxing. But if you're in Zufo boxing as he says, you're going to bet on him that those amendments in the long run will take care of. Yeah.

I mean, we don't have to honor this. I mean, right. Like, hey, this is, you know, this is going to be contender series, but it's going to be on CBS. Hey, we want to change federal law, but we don't need it for our product. And it's like, who is this intended to fool?

Like, you don't actually need any of these changes. Oh, and we're not changing the act. We're not altering one word. We're adding on to it. Yeah, but the add-on undoes the other stuff. Or a bare minimum grant's exemption to those who meet the criteria that was designed by lobbyist and written by lobbyists for your company. Like, what the fuck are we talking about here?

It's just, it's insane to me. It's like, oh, we're not changing the Ali Act. We're just adding on to it. And it's all this like, oh, no, no, no. It looks like, oh, yeah, we don't need any of those proposals for our business to work. well then why do you want those changes and why do you want it implemented like it doesn't none of this makes any sense in terms of the answer and what what material impact that we'll have within year one or year two or year five bc i guess i guess we'll see but um i just don't

understand rich people and very powerful people changing mother fucking federal law and being like yeah we don't really need this and we're not even changing anything it's like just just say what it is you want to do so we can have an honest conversation about it yeah fair enough on that we'll see how it all plays out here as Zufa Boxing set to launch in January on Paramount Plus. We got a bonus topic today. Topic number six. And we're going to look at a couple of the biggest storylines surrounding Friday's UFC 320 card in Las Vegas. One of the final paper views here of the ESPN era.

And this road to UFC 320 is brought to you by total wireless. The official wireless provider of UFC get unlimited data. That won't slow you down. L.T. We're going to go deep on the pregame preview on Friday, of course, but I am so damn fired up. And I don't feel like people are as excited as they should be for this main event on Saturday as Magamette Ancolaev looks to make the first defense of his light heavyweight title that he took via unanimous decision in March from Alex Pereira. It was a big upset. But now we've got this new storyline lingering here of what type of shape was

Poetan really in the first time around. I want to play one piece of sound for you because I feel like this is becoming a big narrative and then we can respond. I did have Alex Pereira on the Brian Campbell experience this week. And he revealed to me just how hurt or ill. He won't tell me what happened, but he's now coming clean that something held him back from his best performance. Let's hear him talk about that.

Deal with that is not cool. But honestly, man, like if I put together everything that I was going on with me and I'm not going to say right. now it makes me happy that i was able to fight to do the fact that i did on everything that was going on me i'm not trying to talk over there anything like that of course i'm not happy that with the loss but normal my potential and like you know what i mean the way that i fought you know what i'm actually even surprised that i was able to fight like that and everything that was going on with what had what was the most difficult part about dealing with ankylaev uh in your first fight in march

i think the conditions that i was coming to that fight that i had come into the fights so i mean Were you 50% of what you normally are in that fight? 40% are you willing to put a number on it? Honestly, also about 40% on that fight, on that night. And obviously, it's going to be much more this time. But if I'm only 50%, that 10% is going to make such a great difference. They're going to leave no doubt for your body. Luke, if you remember, it was Joe Rogan who kind of put it out there shortly after that fight in March,

that Poetan was battling norovirus, that he had a broken hand. Although that was never confirmed by Pereira, who doesn't like to make excuses. I like that he's at least becoming honest about this. Do you feel that news as excuses for a guy that just lost his title? Or are you of the belief that if he comes back 100%, this is an entirely different fight on Saturday? I'm open to the idea that it could be an entirely different fight.

I think if Poeton can move, he's got, he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to, you know, think about his energy output. but so carefully that his hand is obviously in a place where he can deliver punishment. It's a different fight. The one thing I will say, though, BC is, and I will talk about this on Friday, that, you know, when you look at his takedown defense in that fight, like, okay, I mean, it basically did the job of stopping takedowns, so that's great, but it looked, he just looked so frightened in those things.

I mean, he was able to get them, but, like, you could tell he was fighting it, and you want to fight him aggressively, but he was fighting it in such an almost like a safely, neurotically defensive kind of way. If that part is there because you're still just afraid of the takedown or what the takedown might mean, well, I don't know if you're going to get a different fight, B.C. Now, you might get a boring fight. You know what I mean? I'm not even saying it's going to be a good fight, but I'm saying to the extent that Poetan

looks in his defensive wrestling like he did in the first fight, yeah, the good news is by and large he's going to be on his feet. The bad news is what that signals is a certain kind of a hyper-defense. priorityization of something where it should be a little bit more free flowing in the rest of his game. And if he doesn't have that, then I think he's got problems. Yeah. And I do feel like he's not offering this. Like I had to ask him three separate times to sort of give me like some form of an answer. I get that he fought injured like most of that stretch when he made all those title defenses in a short period. He saved the card when McGregor broke his toe when he was

already battling a broken toe and then broke the on a toe on the other foot in the fight. So he's willing to take risks. I thought it was a really good UFC countdown episode that really put the focus on this matchup. It's interesting, Luke. He lost the first fight. He deserves to have lost the first fight talking about Pereira, yet he stuffed all 12 takedowns from Ancolaev.

So it was like there was a win in that. And it wasn't as if Ancolaev like left absolutely no doubt. I thought he was the clear winner, even though I scored it three rounds to two. He was the better fighter. He rocked Poetton that one time. but I feel like in some ways both fighters could do a lot better

than they did the first time. Yes, yes, absolutely. To the extent that Poton was compromised and he can get a better game plan, a lot is more possible. On top of that, I think Oncali have kind of heard a little bit of some of the feedback.

I'm sure he's happy to win the title and feels like, you know, there's a degree of happiness he has with a performance. But, you know, I think the fact that they're doing this again probably indicates to him that he needs to do it more forcefully. And B.C., he's at some wild, you know, subsequent fights with with previous opponents so but that's another one where you know some of the rematches did not look the same um so i'd be curious to see what this but but i mean he must know

he must know they put you right back in this one because there's a little bit of on unfinished business like it wasn't it was it just wasn't a very enjoyable handoff of the belt from one guy to the other you know they're going to make him do it again i think he won it with pressure but even he said it himself in the countdown episode, he now sees all these moments where there were openings to step in after he hurt Poton and land more or openings to secure a takedown when he had him backed up to the cage that he didn't necessarily take. I mean, I think we can say, is he first team all donk? In some ways he is, but he's also tentative to a fall, even though he was the guy putting on pressure. And I think that was the reason why he had so much success.

I think they both can do a lot better. I'm expecting a better rematch here entertainment wise. The draft king odds at the moment, by the way, minus 258 Ancolaev plus 210 Pereira. So that's pretty damn interesting here. Long out a little quickly on that, you got to be, you got to be loving Pereira plus odds to come back at age 38 and potentially write the wrong, right? Yeah. I did get Ancolaev at plus money in the first fight. So the odds are reversed this time around.

I think I those are two. Plus 210 for Pereira. Jesus. I got to take that. Dude, I'm a believer that he will be healthier, more vicious, and more active. Here's Poetan hitting the pads with Plano Cruz there at the PI. Watch the ferocity here. Don't dead wrong me. That was obviously Glover to share for most of those on the business end.

But Luke, any fighter can look dangerous on the pads. But if he's going to be coming forward rather than backing up in this rematch, it's going to be fun. He looked the body language look good, but I mean, that doesn't tell us much about take down the fence. I'll listen. I'll just say I'm excited for the fight. I think most people are, especially a plus two 10. I'm not a gambling guy, but just the notion of how people, dude, people have every 2024, how many of these gibronies were like, Poetons, the fighter of the year. And at 2025, they forgot about them. Yes. They forgot about them. They don't care about the Shama. They got him at plus 210 against Onkalive. Well, apparently 2024 was not all that impressive. Hmm, interesting.

Well, they have a little run in at the PI. that has been the big early topic in the narrative storylines. Here's just a quick little sprinkle of the two of them exchanging words. I'm going to be with you, I'll bathe in your face. Unfortunately, Luke, they have to talk trash through a translator app on the phone, so it loses that feeling. But Pereira accused Ancolaev of hiding at the PI when he walked in. Enkolaev called him a liar.

they did they met a few times they did some back and forths i'm just like you want to poke the bear poet on you want to make make him feel like people forgot him i mean i hear people in m ms circle saying you know one more loss in his career's over dude this guy's about to this guy might come back and you all must have forgot on saturday seriously this might be that type of thing it could or or dude you have a moment on top and when it's over it is over it is over you know it is over well here's one more clip of Pereira aura farming at a haunted house. How many of these clips are we watching?

What the fuck is this? Every single one. There you go, Luke. I'm really glad we added that to the show. Thanks. Well, that was from, have you seen the ship? But I pulled it for this to make it more about it. Okay, okay, okay.

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Won't lie to you. It is disturbing. Our first question comes from Nancassur. You go back in time to 2015. You can speak with any fighter for five minutes. Who do you choose? And what do you tell them? Interesting.

Luke Thomas. Maybe rousy. But at 2015, she, I guess that's the year she lost. She made the UFC debut in 2014, right? I think it was 13, and she lost in December of 2015 to Holly Holm. I believe, right? Yeah, yeah, that's correct.

What would I, what would I tell them? I don't guess, I guess I don't understand. What am I trying to tell them? I think you're trying to save them from themselves. I mean, you can't tell them about 9-11. You got to, you know, like, that's not going to work up timeline-wise. Do you tell her, don't take that home fight on such a short turnaround when you're filming a movie and don't trust Edmund to teach you boxing? Yeah, I probably do that.

Okay, okay. What about you? I'd probably warn Kane. That's not a bad call. That's not a, yeah, that's a good call. That's a much better call. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah.

Um, I don't know where else we're supposed to go with this. I mean, uh, kind of a weird question. Yeah. Get your, get your name on the class action lawsuit so you can collect in 2025. Maybe I don't know. I don't know. Okay, great. Let's go to the next question here.

Uh, from a man and his cat. If you could pick three combat sports athletes for a dinner party, who would you have? And the translators come for free if needed. LT, give me a in your damn dining room. which three MMA fighters and don't do the bit where you're not relax I mean I'm allowed to

to reject performative genuflection but we'll put that aside I performatively genuflect in hotel rooms all the time Luke I bet you do um okay let me the thing is I would have picked Chale

but I've interviewed him so many times and I still occasionally talk to him over text so I don't know if I'd put I mean, ordinarily, he'd be candidate one, right? Yes. Man, that's a good question. Go first.

So I can, like, get my, like, juices flown here. Like, who would you pick? I love D.C. Is he eligible? Can I pick Daniel Cormier? Sure. That's a great conversationalist as well. Yep.

He'll make you laugh. He'll make you feel good. Oh, I got one, Brian Stan. I do Brian Stan. Okay. Okay. Yawanna? I'd rather go hungry.

okay all right um i mean could i do wrong with dustin porre or max holloway i mean these are you know go too how could you go wrong with either how could you go pick one i'll pick the other all right i'm going to pick all right i got dc i got yawanna and i got leila no sorry i got um uh Sean Brady Sean Brady's pretty good I'd add I'd add I'd add Max

and then I'd add man we I feel like we got to get you know what I'm going to take it I'm going to take yeah exactly well hold on I'm actually going to have the pairing

of Holloway and Volk together because rather than just trying to just be like oh i want just three great names i want to pick people who had a rivalry and then dig down in the rivalry and i know it was one-sided in that sense but still you know will you watch the second fight with them for the 50th time in your life um that would be the only occasion where i would okay thank you very much the only occasion where i would a long island luke wants to cook with volk and then everyone else is Aussie i'm sure and then he says gasolum because he this is him writing it he writes gasolum because he eats good i'm just thinking of at a dinner party gaslam's gonna be like we need this we need this he's gonna bring like good sides

and stuff you know i think he might eat the sides i don't know if he's bringing he will but he's gonna bring the good what about carlos prottish if he was willing to smoke outside that's pretty good i was gonna say you need a drinker you need a wild card just heavy drinker you know like i was thinking tie to avasa so i was gonna go oh dude i mean but then he's gonna pee on your furniture yeah he might be a little too wild you know you gotta go a little tamer but who else is like like maybe like paul craig you know he might be okay how about paul craig michael kia like basically our best room service diaries right yes is a good call too yeah oh yeah there's a few different directions you could go yeah all right interesting stuff our third question comes from

cubby's fan 80 if there was a mount rushmore of one hit wonders flagpole sita by harvey danger has to be on it right yes for me yes what are your go-to favorite one-hit wonders of all one hit wonders let's think about that i mean definitely has to be and i said what about breakfast that that's i deep blue something yes yes breakfast that's got to be on the list right that's on yeah i'll put that on there flagpole cited by harvey danger um let me ask a question are the spin doctors one hit wonders no they are they're more of a one album wonder but they have multiple hits on that album okay fair enough fair enough how about you get what you give by the new radicals yeah that's like another good one uh what is that song by the knack oh uh uh uh my shirona my shirona i mean come on that's a banger

that's a banger um how about the freshman by the verb pipe come on come on that's another good one yeah yeah um what are some ones we're not thinking of there were so many in the night is blind melon a one hit wonder no rain no blind melon was a bit they had a bit of a following that's a little different but they were like yeah yeah yeah how about um uh uh Oh, Matt, our buddy, or Daniel Snyder's nephew once, uh, torn by Natalie and Brulia. Didn't she have a career in Australia? Wasn't she Australia? Maybe. What about come on, Eileen by Dexie's Midnight Runners? I did plenty of that in college. Hey, oh, goodness.

Four on blondes. Yep, four non-blond. Oh, dude, I know which one. Mazzie Star. What's that, what's that song they had? Fade into you. Yeah, fade into you. That's kind of a banger on the radio. I fucking hate that. that song. My wife hates that song too. Of course. You like it on your orange Subaru. What about Marcy Playground Sex and Candy? Yes. Yes. Hang around. How about what about Local H bound for the floor? I mean, that wasn't the biggest hit, but you know, that's a good one.

We did teenage time by semi-sonic. Oh, that's a good one. We're only naming 90s. Yeah, we are. Well, we're fucking in our 40s. We are anyway. So what do you want from us? Okay. Okay. Uh, there we go. Good stuff there. Let's hear it from Sergeant Molina. if you had to replace yourself with one active fighter, one active UFC fighter to co-host MK. I assume permanently co-host MK. So, Luke, let's say tomorrow, I say, Sayonaro, we had a good run.

But the key is they're like, we're only continuing with the show and paying you if you pick an active UFC fighter. Who are you going to call? you're not easily replaced i'll say that um fuck i don't even know who could do the job i'm dude i'm not even sure he could do the job in mama media much less among active ufc long island luke chime in here like what what direction

i'm supposed to be going uh i was going to say like anyone who's a commentator like paul felder dom is dom uh dom they're not active they're not active paul's retired too the rules you got to be you got to be throwing the hands all right um kiesa is active still kiesa kiesa could do it i have a good report with kiaz so yeah i mean that's probably the closest i'm going to get this is hard who's good at breaking down fights as a active fighter i mean they're all they all have some ability but the question is not just that it's boxing you know it's talking on camera it's humor humility maybe too you bitch bitch the entire show today was your catalog of interviews where is this humility coming from it was

It was a big special. Yeah, it was a big focus special. What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, I'm trying. Wait, let me look at the rankings. If I had to replace Luke right now. Hey, hey, how about Tom Aspinall? Not bad.

Not bad. Yeah, you know, because he's British, you might have a little sense of the boxing, too. Corey Sanhagen, he's got dry humor for days, right? Corey Sandhagen was the one that I popped in my mind first, but I wasn't sure if it was a good call or not. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, or I could just go like Montana. By the way, I found out something about Corey Sandhagen for the fights.

He is not working with Ryan Hall anymore. I don't know why, but I did find that out and keep that in mind because I think grappling is going to be a pretty important part of this fight. Indeed, indeed. Let's go over our final question from Mike Crenchen, 1999. Yeah, that's it. You nailed it. I'm stealing this one from another podcast, but what would 25-year-old BC and LT be most surprised about current day you? 25 was the last year that I was an absolute dirt hole, Luke, so I would be... Yeah, but I'm still the same piece of shit that I ever was. Wow, I would be entirely surprised about my life right now, but the most surprised would be easily my career, easily, yeah, not even, like, not even close.

No. Because I was just... I think mine would be how little my life has changed. Oh, get out of here. You don't really mean that. Kind of. Kind of. I've done some cool things, but...

Um... Wife and daughter? Come on. No. I didn't say I wasn't lucky. I'm talking about me personally. All right. I'm talking about me personally.

Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'd probably say that there's... I did not do the things I thought I would do. between 25 and 45. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

I think I, and actually I feel very comfortable saying that. Do you realize there's still time or no? Yes. Yes. That's true. Yes.

Life is full of, dude, life is full of, if there's one thing I've learned, B.C., it's that it is very hard to predict the future. Just when you think

you've got to figure it out, you don't. I didn't think I'd be part of the UFC machine right now. I'll tell you that much. I did not think that. Turn in that butter. There we go.

All right. Thank you for those DMs. Remember, you can reach the show at MorningCombat at Gmail.com. Tell Mikey, we said hi. We're not going to play your fan subs or dead rungs this Friday, but we'll be back next week. So reach the show, show your privates.

It's MorningCombat at Gmail.com. Our final segment gives me an opportunity to search the internet, the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, the in-between. For the weirdest videos of the week to get Luke Thomas to emote, this one's called Have you seen this shit?

Luke, let's check in on the NFL. Reason number 5,000 not to bring your family to a game. Here's 49ers versus Cardinals. Why would you ever go to a football game? Why would you bring your children? Yeah, what on earth could possibly be the point? All right, watch that big guy in the red shirt. shirt closely, okay? The guy that looks like

Pinio Cruz right there. I'm look, I got my oh, oh, dude. These people are drunk, reckless zeros. They don't mind going to jail and then they want to sit around you. Why the fuck would you ever go around these people?

Wow. Wow. Yeah. Look at this still going on. Look at that guy in the wife beat her right. Oh, yeah. I mean, this thing's just going to keep playing world star style. This is, This is, yeah, this is why I have a big screen TV. Yes, thank you. Thank you.

Indeed. That's why this is why I'm a dedicated Samsung customer. Yes. Well, Luke, I got the footage of that moment I mentioned from your team, the commanders. Here's Marcus Marietta sending your coach to hell. Marietta, but yeah. Oh, you know, same thing upside down, right? Boom.

Take that, Dan Quinn. Wow. Oh, the head bounce. Do you see that? Yeah, it did. And it cut his nose, too. The NFL was in Dublin this weekend. CBS Sports was on the scene.

Our good friend, EG. I don't know to point out very quickly. NFL made it to Croke Park before Connor McGregor did. Amazing, amazing, right? Well, the NFL pregame show there with our good friend Amanda Gera, AG2. They had a little bit of a drink off with the analysts. Check out Kyle Long here. Here's.

Okay, here we go. Oh, we're doing now. Okay, Kyle's just going to check the whole thing, like a freaking champ. Ireland. Oh, okay. We love football. We love Ireland here at NFL today plus. Kyle totally chugged it.

You didn't quite get it. You didn't quite get it. Thanks for the beer, boy. Wow. Took that guy downtown, right? That is Howie Long's son? I think so, yes. Kyle won't correct?

Yeah. Yeah, that is. Or was that Chris Long? Wait, Long Island Luke, I always make football errors and get dead wronged here. Can you fill in here? I'm not the guy. I don't know. He's like, bro, if he doesn't play for the Jets, I don't know.

for the Jets, I don't know, shit. All right, all right. Let's head over to the food truck scene. You ever seen this truck before? Crazy for cops and ass. What the fuck? I'd eat there, Luke. I'd eat there despite the name, all right?

You know what? Now BC and I are intrigued. Yes, all right. Hey, it's UFC Perth time. Here's your question of the week from the presser. It's for race. Do you agree with everyone else that Carlos is the best looking guy in the UFC? Man, I got to fight this ugly-ass dude right here. Are you serious?

Yes, sir. Do you think they saw each other again, Luke? They should bring back. Corporal punishment in society. All right. Let's hear from Jimmy Krupp post-fight. Look, he's just one of us at the end of the day. And finally, any beers tonight?

Couple. Guys, look at beers and karaoke tonight. That's what I'm feeling. What's your art karaoke song? Anything by Creed, I reckon I'm going to rip the fuck into. Do you want to give it a crack now? Can you take me higher? Yeah, let's go.

home and now right come on come on look no we should do creed karaoke night with mk if we had a budget that'd be great creed karaoke night yeah i think we'd get thrown out of any bar we did that where our fans come and then we all just get sloppy and all right that that would be a little bit different that i might do but uh look with the holiday season is coming on fast i got some gift ideas for you. I mean, not, you know, not directly from you, to be fair. Yeah, maybe I'll give that gift certificate to my wife, you know what I'm saying. Yes, thank you very much.

Your Riz of the week, shout out to the Rizzler, goes to this guy, the Tia smasher. Look at this guy. Yeah. That is the weirdest build on a man I have ever seen. You know that guy, bangs. You know it. I mean, absolute. Whoers.

All right, let's go back to our famous segment. Would you eat? Now, Luke, this was proved to be fictional AI and not real, but Branson, Missouri once considered having the first McDonald's buffet at $12.99 selling cheeseburgers, nuggets, and fries. Would you eat for $12.99? Yes. I would take that thing down.

Yes. I mean, that food is all beige, but I would, listen, I ate at fucking Roy Rogers buffets. What on earth could be worse than that at McDonald's? Nothing, yeah, I'll take it. Well, maybe this next food item. Would you eat this, Luke? They call it a ravioli dog. No, because I'm not in prison.

This is for. Sorry, it's called a weenioly. This is the kind of food Long Island Luke makes for his girlfriend, which is why his relationship is wrong. I would totally eat that out of his house and then hit that giant natural. It's like, yeah, what's on top of that hot dog? Yeah, beefaroni. Yeah, I'm good.

Luke, our next final would you eat is mixing two of my favorite things, maybe just not together at the same time you know some british piece of shit came up with this these dog food eaten motherfuckers why would i eat this even on a dare yeah we make that joke on my boxing pod with raf where he's like you know my favorite two things in the world are women in boxing just not at the same time right no by the way i told you know who i talked to last week very briefly i didn't tell you about this i will after the show uh uh uh our what was his name the the fuck jake basically jake jake von amsterdam jake von amsterdam yeah spoke to jake von amsterdam all right nice i love that guy we'll see we'll see all right uh your your police check of the week

uh check this out in good old brandon mississippi i saw this watch this hit oh my fucking lord dude and if you hear the audio he lands on that thing like like like I don't know. Like, I mean, they, he actually gets up, he goes, you broke my back. You broke my back. I bet he did, sir. Don't run in cuffs. Doctor said, I need a back out of me.

Luke, lacrosse can be a dangerous game. Be careful before putting your kids in it. Check out this referee in this game. Oh, boy. Dude, that has to be. And it wasn't, no, it wasn't the bozac, but it was that inside soft putter of the thigh. Oh, man. Close enough.

That's terrible. gets worse for this lacrosse player let's watch this dude first it gets punched in the face and then hit in the face by the balls those balls those lacrosse balls those things are weapons that is an insane level of punishment to take look want to see my dream couch for my first apartment i wish i had this i would have probably gotten the same amount of sex though to be fair right you know anybody who gets laid in that apartment must be the world's best lover because no straight woman would ever want to fuck a guy there. All right.

Let's go to the assembly. Here's your three-pointer of the week. Watch the balls on this kid. You talk about you. We don't know how much going to do. Dude, I'm here for that. Dude, I'm here for that. You know, you know that kid ain't going to amount to nothing in life.

Probably not. Let's set up our crash outs of the week. First, we'll check out Scooter Karen here. Hey what? What is so? Ah! Saito! Yeah, man!

Ah! Ah! Shrediggo! Sacked in these men up here, for your thoughts. Was that German? I think it was Dragon, actually. Look, I don't know. That was pretty scary.

Let's go to the tennis court for the next rage out. You don't want with you, you, That's great! You, fuck you! Hey, hey, let's get it. F*** you! The f***'s wrong with you.

You are you fucking real? Fuck off! That's great. You know, I will say this. Cairns actually do have a... You know how buzzards you need them in the ecosystem to like eat dead things? Yes. You'd be like, I would never want to do that.

They're fucking gross. they're horrible, but you need them. You do need Karens. But when they get to that level where they're just completely unstable pieces of shit, then you don't need them anymore. You know what I'm saying? Well, Luke, to close on our rage outs, crashouts here, there's obviously those Instagram TikTok trends

where kids run into stores and cause mayhem and end up being assholes and I usually don't approve of it. But this one made me laugh. Yeah, I don't give two fuck this mother's damn go to the bar. I'm not giving you nothing. I'm not bringing a pie hole. Bro, get the fuck out of here, right? All the cops.

Get out of here. No, I'm not. Get out of. Get out from pandam. Get out of his day. It's all this day. Bring your fucking Forbes down here. Tell them my fucking scream at me like that in my fucking restaurant.

Mine died. Get the fuck out of here. That's your fucking problem. Calm down, Mr. Clean. Yeah. Hey, Lou DeBella, chill out for a second. All right? Come on.

Nah, I mean, these guys, I mean, these people just in, you got to, you got to fuck with people who deserve to be fucked with. Random restaurant owners are not those people. Well, somebody effed with somebody's abuela here, and it gave us our t-shirt of the week, Luke. Do you improve of this? Wow. Are you buying what she's selling, Luke? Not exactly my type, but I'm curious.

Okay, all right. We've got our tattoo of the week. Please rate it, Luke. Jesus Christ. Wow. That is a negative 9,823. That is really bad. Boy, this is a bad, bad batch of shit here. Nothing, nothing's really working. It's a little dark. Let's go to our KOs of the week. Let's hit the Taekwondo game here. Match. Boom!

That one, dude, I tell you what, in Taekwondo every once in a while, you get some, I mean, quite literally acrobatic knockouts, right? Damn, that was a good one. Watch this next one. Watch the guy on the left. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Maybe this is a karate. I'm not even sure. Let's roll a rolling thunder.

Bha. Oh, that is so good. The timing on there. So sick. All right. We got one more K-O the week. It comes from this foreign bar. Damn.

That, you got to get that guy in an action movie. Seriously? That was sick. Wow, that guy had it coming, too. You can tell. Wow, all right. Luke, it wouldn't be H-Y-S-T-S without a visit from Celine, the cake lady. Oh, my God.

Yeah, eat that dog food, you absolute demon. Yeah, yeah, I bet it tastes delicious. Oh, is it cake or not, Luke? turns out right here comes the cat why don't you cut the cat up too demonic force and so oh there's the coffee maker which of course is not real plastic eating wench

yeah and she looks so yeah yeah just but I do I want to have saw a homeless man oh eating the bag does she have to eat weird shit you can just oh I eat your fucking clothes oh my there's only one

One place for her to go next, Luke, and that's porn, obviously, all right? She's just going to start gobbling on genitalia. It's going to be unbelief. Dude, why can't she just eat normal shit? I, okay, all right, whatever. I don't know. Luke, we'll close with this. Would you drink this?

Want to have some juice? Here you go. Yeah, I'd rather get fucked to death by an eight-dicked walrus. All right, that may have been the worst shit we've ever seen. I hope you saw it. that was awful what a bad batch they can't all win luke sorry they can't all they can't all win that's how life goes uh we'll be back friday thank you for tuning in today it will be pregame preview ufc 320 brought to you by quervo with our good friend jed meshu number two uh check

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dot shop uh no seat up brother what do you got anything i got uh ufc 320 bet breakdown coming out tomorrow i'm doing jeds podcast this week no bets bards so check that out prop quiz dropping friday watch along saturday you you know the drill baby let's go hey l t i don't know if you saw but uh i took home the uh the one hondo from from winning the pot the prop quiz tournament you won the whole thing upset city against you and mike heck and then i took uh shakiel maljuti to the to the woodshed You smoked them. Wasn't even close?

It really wasn't. There was a conspiracy theory, Luke, that you spoiled it on last episode of MK, because you called BC the prop quiz champion and everyone. Even though I hadn't told you the results. Exactly. Yeah. Trust me when I tell you, there's no, I don't care enough to know in advance. I figured, I said, I was trying to tell everyone.

It doesn't be like, I'm happy for BC. And actually, I do think Long Island looks on to something, but like, I have things to do. I'm not in any way paying attention to that. That's funny. Oh, right. There you go. Good for you. That's great. Dude, everything's coming up, Campbell. Look at this, brother.

I'm on a run right. I'm on a heater right now, okay? So let's go. Let's go. LT, do you want to tell the people off to close the show? Yeah, I'll probably be putting a gun in my mouth after today's episode. It's been fun. Oh, no.

I'm teasing. I'm teasing. Friday, as you mentioned, we have pregame. I'm going to race back home as fast as again. I look this up. I think the prelim card for PFL is 11. I think the main is a little bit later. Are you sure?

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Well, now, Luke, you know, you tend to know things. So I think they have it listed as just one card. They don't have like prelims and the one card starts at noon. So I think Luke's right. Like the main will be a little later in the day. Okay.

So my point is I will probably do a post-fight show both for Nurembergab-Usmint-2 as well as, of course, a watch along on a post-fight show for Saturdays, UFC 320 should be a lot of fun good stuff check it out there what do we call your channel luke thomas dot com just just youtube.com slash luke thomas that's it there it is there it is check it out uh thank you so much for joining us this monday have a great week it is fight week ufc 320 let's get fired up should be a good one very good very good main card this weekend so check all that out uh check out our preview on friday and until then take care of yourselves we are this is an iHeart podcast