MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Recap: Hill KOs Walker | Bellator 274 Recap | Kell Brook KOs Khan | Ep. 267

Episode Date: February 21, 2022

On episode 267 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian recap a packed weekend of combat sports. The boys start off by breaking down Jamahal Hill'a first round KO of Johnny Walker in the UFC? How good is HIll... and where does Walker go from here? Plus, at Bellator 274, Logan Storley outworked Neiman Gracie. Does this win make him the top contender in Bellator's welterweight division? Also, in boxing Kell Brook scores a TKO win over Amir Khan. (12:00) - Jamahal Hill ices Johnny Walker (29:10) - Logan Storley outworks Neiman Gracie (42:00) - Andrey Koreshkov (50:30) - Kell Brook punishes Amir Khan (61:12) - Mike Perry & Chad Mendes (72:00) - Dm's from Donks Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I don't sleep because sleep is the cousin of death and also because my daughter won't let me. Hi, everyone. It's the 21st of February, 2022, and it is time for another edition of your favorite podcast, Morning Combat. Hi, everyone. My name is Luke Thomas. I am merely one half of your hosting duo based out here in Washington, D.C., the capital of Los Estados Unidos. I am joined by the boss of Connecticut, who's got the world's strongest back. He's my friend and yours. It's Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian Campbell. Luke, if people only knew of the melancholy and infinite sadness it took to get me into this chair this morning, because yes, at 43, I've broken my back spinal. I haven't seen the doctor yet,
Starting point is 00:01:08 but I'm sure he'll say I need a back. He out of me. Luke, is there anything more disarming in life than losing your mobility on the toilet? Is there, I mean, really, is there, I mean, you know, Elvis lost it all on the toilet. I respect that by the way, you know, at 42 though, but at 43, I mean, you know, you stand up, you know, and you're already standing, Luke. People already know your preference personally, right? It's more of a Southeast Asian-based preference, which, you know, lines up with your birth. But, Luke, yeah, well, I kind of, you know, can we get the, yeah, all right. So we'll do the, I'll hang in here as long as I can.
Starting point is 00:01:44 There's two kinds of people in this world, BC. When Daniel Cormier told people he nearly had to withdraw from a fight from an aggressive sneeze, there were people being like, wow, that's pathetic. And then there were people like us being like, yo, man, I totally get that. I understand how that could happen to your life. So best of luck to you. I've been there, bro.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I've had it so bad. I've had it so bad that one time I could not even sit up or stand and i couldn't this was before uber eats anyway and i had to crawl around on my floor and eat leftover halloween candy because i literally couldn't sit up or get on a couch that is the uh that is the rock of the bottom look wow shout out to you there i'm not that bad but uh yeah i couldn't i definitely could not have made it to the restroom last night it was uh you know it was just a you're gonna have to hold it you know you're gonna have to sleep through the night so uh uh wow luke this is a sobering reality but i i vow i vow to rebuild my core upon healing okay you're gonna have to
Starting point is 00:02:41 you're gonna be right back here if you don't um you had a big weekend a big weekend of combat sports there was UFC there was Bellator there was knuckle mania there was also very quickly BC you were in Orlando on Friday for Showbox ended up being actually a pretty great show your uh review of your experience thank you so much Luke and I appreciated your uh social support for me just the same look great great night at at the fights down there in Orlando for Showbox. Jermaine Ortiz getting the win in the main event. We saw a controversial decision, but yeah, Luke, I mean, look, I've said it before. I'll say it once more. Calling
Starting point is 00:03:14 fights, being a part of it, you know, the soundtrack, the experience. Dude, that's it, right? That's the end of the game. That's the, right? That's the end of the game. That's the best damn thing you can ever be employed to do. Like, look, I'm sure Kendra Lust really enjoyed her prime.
Starting point is 00:03:40 But, you know, at least in our field, this is, you know, this is black draw. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's, you know, it's fantastic. I don't even know what to say to that. I'm going to let that one sit a little bit. I'm going to let you stew in the juices of that one, so to speak. We have a lot to get to today. Yeah, in all seriousness, good times, great oldies. Shout out to everybody on Showbox.
Starting point is 00:04:02 What a great night at the fights. You did a great job. And again, good fights. It was really good fights. And seriously, in all seriousness, the MK audience, they came out for it. They DM'd me. They showed me love. Thank you, folks.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Any MK fans in attendance, that's the difference. Yes. Once again, this is the second card in a month and a half at that same venue in Orlando. And I got approached by another guy who said, look, huge MK fan, didn't even know this fight card was happening in my area until you talked about it, so I came out to support you. Those, Luke, are the P1s right there, okay? That's the P1 for sure.
Starting point is 00:04:36 All right, well, great stuff. So first things first, if you're watching on YouTube, like the video, hit subscribe. If you're listening on an audio podcast platform, please give us a nice review there. You can see all of our socials here on the screen. If you're watching on YouTube, you can give us a follow there. The Morning Combat name is consistent across all platforms.
Starting point is 00:04:51 BC, I know we have a merch deal. Today is President's Day. Shouts all of our former presidents, I guess. What's going on over at morningcombat.store? Yeah, look, our man RJ Dunkelkapper really wants to move some product, and we do too. So we have a special President's Day deal for you today. Go to morningcombat.store. And, Gaff, what's our – oh, there it is.
Starting point is 00:05:12 There's our code, LIVE10, for 10% off Morning Combat merch. Guys, I only travel in MK merch because it's so damn comfortable, okay? In fact, usually when I slip a disc in my back and become a cripple, it's, it's while wearing MK clothing. So, um, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:30 hopefully you can do the same. And also Luke, people know that later this week, you know, pending, pending my, uh, my sacro diliac reforming itself.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Um, we'll be back in Jersey city and, and our merch master says we have fresh new merch to unveil to the people. So, look, if you're a big MK merch fan, you're a collector, we got some new great stuff coming your way. Look, I didn't want to let President's Day go any longer without just asking you who is or was your favorite president. Because I've always tabbed you as like a james buchanan guy you know for a lot of reasons but like who is your president i thought you were gonna say taft because he got stuck in the bathtub um i don't know i don't know probably the one whose influence i think matters the most
Starting point is 00:06:21 in my lifetime um even though i wasn't i mean the programs that he put in place in my lifetime probably fdr but you know there's plenty of problems with his presidency too yeah uh you're a big new deal guy i knew that yeah yeah definitely that's the that's the kind it's the brand of politics i i suppose progressive uh under that guideline not the kind that wants to do all different kinds of stuff with society uh okay reaching out and saying he's a big bill clinton guy and i respect that to a certain degree gaff okay yeah well i wouldn't be mine i would i bet he did i bet he did inhale okay bro i mean who on this staff hasn't but look come on you know although there's also holes in his presidency look ronald reagan's the
Starting point is 00:07:00 guy luke the actor yeah i don't think i don't think that he is. I don't think his record would hold up to that. But in any case, let's see what else we got. We got, of course, the email, morningcombat at gmail.com for Wednesdays, fansubs, Fridays, Dead Wrong, and then, of course, Showtime. We told you. You had BC Fridays. You had Bellator Saturdays on the weekend.
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Starting point is 00:07:58 with my black liver. It has kind of a mild tropical taste that I actually look forward to each morning. Look, it's the first thing I take, first thing I jump into. It really is. I'm pretty close with me. It's usually right around breakfast.
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Starting point is 00:10:09 All right. With that in mind, BC, let's get the show started here. We go to topic number one. We will start with the UFC because really that was a pretty impressive showing that we had from Jamal Hill. Let's start with him. He ices Johnny Walker inside of a round. I think just a few minutes. I have to look at the time specifically.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It was, I think, honestly, BC, the first time he threw that punch, the first time it closed the show when he switched stances and then landed the counter there. So let me ask you this. What did you make of the performance? And then more especially, how good is Jamal Hill? You know, I like that you lead with that because I think rightfully so we led the preview about the questions Johnny Walker has to answer. And it could be just as easy to say, well, what the hell we learned from Walker.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But I liked what we learned from Jamal Hill. I liked his presence on the microphone or afterwards with his son at the press conference or at the desk. But most importantly, in the cage, I learned that there's some real poise and presence there to go with what is elite power. And the power is played out now each time he stepped up in class. And we knew this fight had the potential to be fireworks, only it wasn't going to be a lot of fireworks because once Jamal Hill gets a clean shot on you, you're going to be pretty
Starting point is 00:11:22 close to going out. So Luke, you know, how much more do I know about him than I knew coming in, in relation to the idea, does he have a complete game that can contend for a title? I still think we don't really know that, but you got to take his threat legitimately seriously. And once again, he proved that and rightfully so to grab the mic afterwards and be like, let's start talking about what I'm capable of rather than what limits me. It is that time for Jamal Hill. I think that's right. He was saying that we need to have a different conversation around him,
Starting point is 00:11:55 and I think he has more than earned that at this point. He was, to me, an interesting prospect, a good prospect. One was taken seriously, but I did not necessarily peg him for the bright lights. And to your point, did we see him fend off takedown attempts relentlessly? Did we see him get out of bad spots? Did we see him, you know, fight for long stretches in the clinch or even have this fight go very long? There's a ton of ways in which other elite talent are going to push him
Starting point is 00:12:22 that Johnny Walker did not push him that will be more illuminating about his upside. In that sense, I don't know what this could tell you. However, what it can tell you pretty clearly is that this guy, A, makes reads very fast, does not take him very long to start instituting some adjustments, which is what that final punch that closed it was. He was in southpaw. Johnny Walker sort of kept circling the same direction.
Starting point is 00:12:44 He switched, intercepted him, slipped off the center line with a parry, and then landed over the top. I mean, that was just great work. But the point I'm trying to make here is we knew he was accurate, BC. We knew he had good punching skills. We knew he was fast, powerful. Dude, he is a nemesis on the threat. The first time he threw that punch, it landed right on the temple. It was going to land either way, knock him off of his feet or just ring his bell one way or the other. And he did it so expertly, so effortlessly in making that adjustment. Didn't take him time to settle into that at all.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Dude, on the feet, he is a handful. You cannot make very many mistakes. And in fact, BC, I think this is going to be the kind of fight. It's good for us, bad for Jamal Hill, but it may be good for Jamal Hill. What I mean is the next guy that faces him probably is not going to do what Johnny Walker did. They're not going to be on the outside.
Starting point is 00:13:34 They're not going to be kind of pawing or whatever. They're going to probably be in his face, backing him up, trying to take him down. But he has arrived. He is worthy of a big fight. I think probably going to win some fights in that top 10, maybe more. He's a very good fighter. Yeah, this was big.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And we'll probably get into it more and have you seen the shit to see the way that Walker's body reacted. But, Luke, can we tease that now? I mean, is this just Jamal Hill hits a hell of a lot harder than we thought he did? How do you even explain? Because that knockout, it not only came out of nowhere, but the physical explosion of it was unique to say the least.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I would say this. Walker was kind of fighting off the back foot. He was kind of fighting, sort of leaning back a little bit. Not the whole time, but he really wanted to be long. He wanted to put Jamal Hill at the end of his range he did have a three inch reach advantage he is taller right so you would imagine if he could do like what Adesanya does great again right no one's on Adesanya but you know what I'm saying like lean get out of the way use your footwork get out of the way by the way his footwork was you know it's dude you got to be if you're somebody like me who's never fought you got to be
Starting point is 00:14:47 real careful when you're like these fighters did something wrong it's it's not for really me to say it's for his coach to say but you know dude he was crossing his feet up constantly in this fight it was a mess but to answer your question here's the difference he was kind of when you're fighting on the back foot like that and you're barely getting hit or whatever, you're usually getting hit under known circumstances. You can kind of see it coming. You can roll a little bit or you can block or whatever, or you're just far enough away. We actually watched this fight.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I think part of the reason why Hall switched, he's actually having a little bit of trouble getting through from that southpaw stance. Notice one thing Walker was doing well was constantly bringing his lead hand up to the same jab side as Hill, and I think Hill had a trouble getting that jab going so when he switched um a was an element of surprise but b I think he also was able to make better contact but the point I'm trying to make here is dude two things one
Starting point is 00:15:34 Walker never saw coming so the ones you don't see coming just land way way harder and he was moving into it as well right because he caught him jabbing into it so he was moving into it didn't see it and then the other part is dude he just got caught at the very end of that um you know with with all the power that hill had to provide here he was he was ready for it he had read it you can see him pull his head off he steps off with his lead foot he pulls the parry and then he just drives it home so you had a full high accurate shot from an accurate striker the guy walked into it he didn't see it dude you're just you're gonna have a hard time surviving in those circumstances yeah absolutely and in transitioning here to johnny walker and what we learned and really you know how much of it is panic now you mentioned some of the stylists or
Starting point is 00:16:21 you know technical uh mishaps you saw in there with the footwork and what have you. Despite that, until the knockout, you know, I kind of liked his attack, Luke. I liked that he was leading with hard kicks and the threat of that hard body kick. This isn't, you know, jabs. These are dangerous shots to keep that distance because him darting in for a big strike is where he's most dangerous. But whatever you want to, you know, link up to the fault of him getting knocked out in the first round. And let's also put a lot of that on Jamal Hill, just kind of ready to break through here.
Starting point is 00:16:54 It's not working. It's four losses in five fights, albeit against very good competition. But, you know, two knockout losses. I mean, Johnny Walker is young enough and talented enough where I'm not here panicking about his job future, Luke. But how panic, how big of an adjustment should he make? Because I think at the very least, I'm not here to say it is SBG's fault here. But this relationship, it just doesn't work. It didn't seem to work on paper to begin with.
Starting point is 00:17:24 It's not getting results. So I think at the very bare minimum, if you're Johnny Walker, you got to figure out what team coaching staff style discipline is going to work with you. And by the way, I hold firm on believing that this guy is at his most dangerous when he's wild. And when you, when you are that, and when you act like that, you're going to get losses like this. It's going to happen. Obviously, four and five fights is a bad omen, and we got to make major changes. But you're going to live by the sword. You're going to die by the sword.
Starting point is 00:17:57 So I wouldn't be that upset about this loss if it didn't come in this context of four and five fights. But what is your greatest recommendation, still on the good side of 30, for what the hell Johnny Walker should do next to get out of this funk? Because I got1 fans and my DMs going bro how about this guy at heavyweight can you just use his speed and explosiveness and just surprise these guys Luke what do you do here if you're Johnny Walker maybe maybe one thing I want to say I didn't say the last time out was you know um I made a tweet about this which got somewhat misconstrued but it's worth pointing out here one of the ways I'm able to detect what elite fighters are doing is just to pay attention to what they're doing. The trends will reveal themselves through their victories, typically, right?
Starting point is 00:18:33 You will see what the modern, very best practices are. And over and over again, dude, I'm seeing a lot of knockouts in MMA from guys slipping off of a jab and then countering. And I notice that there's not many guys who can do that in MMA. And I tweeted, it gives you a pronounced advantage. People were like, yeah, no shit. Of course slipping gives you an advantage. But I don't mean it just in the most obvious way.
Starting point is 00:18:53 What I'm trying to say is you see a lot of slipping in boxing, a lot of, to some extent, obviously in kickboxing, more than you would in MMA. And that's the point. There is such a dramatic asymmetry between the people who can do it and the people who can't. I don't know how Walker would have gotten around that. If you've got a guy who can attack and punch in the way that Jamal Hill can,
Starting point is 00:19:13 and you've got a guy that will walk into punches the way that Walker did there, I don't know how you solve for that anytime soon. It's such an asymmetry that it doesn't just give you an advantage like it would in any striking sport. It gives you a massive, massive advantage. And to the point you're raising, maybe heavyweight can go. This is beyond my purview about how to fix these things because this is the part I'm trying to raise, BC.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I'm with you. I was liking some of the stuff that Walker was doing. It seemed a little bit more, and he was efforting some blitzes as well. Those were a little bit, you know, they didn't anywhere either but he was it was definitely more offensive but you gotta have that threat if you're walker you gotta have the threat of the big offense and i thought he was mixing in the threat of the run in big offense with striking from the outside fairly effectively i mean look he's not going to be a jabber and a pure boxer who keeps you at the end of it maybe a coach can try to implement that into the game plan, but it's not who he is.
Starting point is 00:20:08 So who he was until he wasn't, I thought was pretty darn good. But Luke, do you have to panic when you've lost four or five? I think the answer is resoundingly yes. So is it just get a new coach, you know, figure it out? I mean, look, what is the true stock of who Johnny Walker is at this point? Well, seriously, where he is right now, is it still, is there still potential for it to be high with just some retooling and reshaping? You would imagine that when you're that athletic and you're that young and you're in a division
Starting point is 00:20:38 that's by no means easy, but you know, it's not the hardest division in the sport. Okay. I think that's pretty fair way to put it. You know, it would be wrong to just be like, oh, this guy can't do anything. But I go back to a dude. Again, what happened between him and SBG? I don't know, but it hasn't borne fruit. I can put it that way at a bare minimum.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Maybe it will the next one out. I don't know, but to this point, it really hasn't. Then I go back to the dude. The footwork was a mess. It just was a mess. He was constantly crossing and it's like dude there's a lot that is just not lined up where it needs to be for this level honestly another thing could be just going back to a sub UFC level and then retooling a little bit now I think he can get back here maybe he doesn't get cut and he stays here and he goes
Starting point is 00:21:19 to heavyweight like he is a guy who I think can and will win at this level to be sure but like when I go down the list of all the things that are just not in place that need to be to, A, to build further where he needs to go, but just to get right, it's all off for me. And so the solution, you can change camps, you can change weight classes, you can change organizations, but change is in order. Whatever he's doing, it's not getting the job done, not even close. Maybe stop hanging out with Michelle Padeta. Look look it's a it's a you know it's i'm an old old man parent here luke it's
Starting point is 00:21:49 a fair request right like guys do you by the way do you like the heavyweight idea for johnny walker i never know how to feel about stuff like that okay it's a panic move for sure and your knee jerk response is to go didn't we just see him get one punched at light heavyweight so how's that going to get better at heavyweight? But how it would potentially get better is that's still a big gap for most fighters, the 205 to taking on guys that are cutting down to 265. That
Starting point is 00:22:13 speed advantage, it's always what we said about John Jones moving up to heavyweight. You know, there is that chance that he just goes up there and he looks like freaking Mayweather and doesn't get touched. You know, there's that chance, right? That would allow Johnny Walker a little bit more room to set up some of these crazy offensive moves. Yeah, yeah, Luke, maybe I would. Maybe I would right now do that.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Unless you are going to, let's say, announce that I'm changing teams, I'm taking nine months off, and I'm, you know, I'm ripping this house down to the studs. And I got one more giant attempt to, to read, to, you know, unless he's, if he's not willing to do that, Luke, then stay in a gunslinger going to heavyweight and hiring an offensive only coach. It's kind of like in boxing, Ryan Garcia, you know, leaving Eddie Reynoso. Now he says, by the way, it's because Eddie didn't have, you know, a hundred percent of free time to give him, but going to an offensive coach and Joe Goose and we're like, oh my God, this guy's already got defensive, you know, major issues, but I guess you're just doubling down on what makes him dangerous.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I think there's two paths Johnny Walken can go. And if he's going to go the heavyweight, let's stay dangerous route. Then let's stay really dangerous and let's get somebody who can really bring out what makes you scream in some of your highlight reel performances that there's an alien in there, that there's something next level that needs to come out. Yeah, Luke, I'm going to heavyweight if I'm him. It's crazy to me. He's got 25 professional fights bc
Starting point is 00:23:45 and he's still making some errors that um he just shouldn't be making at this level at this point you know and he's got great wins Misha Serkanov Justin Ledeck clear clear round she went over them before Henrik Da Silva I need to go back and see what he was doing in some of those fights now granted they're not very long 36 seconds 15, 15 seconds, a minute and 57 seconds. It wasn't like these were a ton of tape and maybe that's part of the problem here, but I don't know, man. I really feel like he's just a little bit lost. It's a little bit lost. Like you're trying to redirect him and I get that. I go back to it. I just feel like what Trevor Whitman did, people were like, oh, it's impressive that he took Justin Gaethje and made him better. It's impressive that he made him better, of course.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's equally impressive that he didn't really change him. You know, he did, yes, of course, in certain ways he did. But, you know, Justin Gaethje still fights very Justin Gaethje-like, just more applied in a scientific, strategic, and tactical way. You get some of what Johnny Walker is doing as part of that, but it seems like it's not really him. He's cosplaying as somebody who's not himself. And I just don't think that's best for him. I mean, who the hell knows what is best for him? I can't say for sure, but do I, do I, am I seeing what is best for Johnny Walker? I don't believe that I am. I don't believe that I am. It's like Luke,
Starting point is 00:24:58 you know, a recovering addict, you know, do you want them to spend half the day outside smoking cigarettes all day? No, it's not good for him him but luke his body needs it in order to make this transition away from that stuff and look johnny walker's an addict to like danger and and and you know stress and anxiety like the he freaking loves that so let him play let him play in the puddle that's what that you know that seriously i said respectfully he is a dangerous knockout threat be the most freaking dangerous knockout threat you can be then moving forward because you're not going to be able to rewire this computer. So, Luke, let's not get out of this without saying who should be next for Jamal Hill
Starting point is 00:25:38 because this was an announcement of who he is and where he might be going. So what is the next test for him when you look at the top 10 of these rankings? So when I look at the top 10, they go as follows. Johnny Walker was sitting at 10, Jamal Hill at 12. I suspect he will leapfrog him there and go into the 10th. Now, Paul Craig is sitting at 11. He might have something to say about that, but in general, let's say, let's say Jamal Hill gets to the top 10.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Then you would have either Craig or Krilov, Uzdemir, Reyes, Ankhalaev above him. At that point, you get into the top five. Santos, Smith, Rakic, Prochocki, and Blachowicz. I think they're a little bit ahead. So in that space, who would I like to see? I like any of those fights. Dude, where's Dominic Reyes been?
Starting point is 00:26:17 That's a tough test for him. Volkan Uzdemir was on Twitter chirping about wanting some of the smoke. Nikita Krilov has vastly improved from when he had his first stint in the smoke. Nikita Krylov has vastly improved from when he had his first stint in the UFC. And even Paul Craig, didn't Paul Craig, if memory serves, didn't he beat Jamal Hill already? He did. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:26:32 He savagely submitted him. Yeah, exactly. That was just in June of 2021. Holy smokes. So it's barely not even been a year. There's a lot you could do with this guy. That's why I was going to counter you and say, I don't want the Craig rematch this quickly because they both look like
Starting point is 00:26:47 they're going somewhere so if they are going somewhere let's reunite them you know a little bit further down we have to be any of those names you mentioned uh look i think he's at the very least succeeded in all of us taking him very seriously now so that that's a that's a victory at the end of the day in a lot of ways and and, you know, if you didn't know him, now you do. So, yeah. Wow, Luke, if I make weird grunting faces, like I'm not, you know, I'm not pooping in my pants. It's just the, you know, I get those intermittent blasts of pain,
Starting point is 00:27:18 and then I get all curmudgeon-y and gross. Yeah, dude, I really want to make fun of you, but the problem is I've been there so many times that i actually do feel genuine heartfelt sorrow for you but i am hoping that the doctor tells you you're going to be paralyzed starting tomorrow okay uh point number two let's talk about a little we'll talk about uh all the other stuff from that card a little bit in the a little bit later and especially an extra credit point number two bc logan storley had i thought the biggest fight on paper. Certainly one of the more meaningful fights on paper anyway
Starting point is 00:27:48 heading into this past weekend. Main event, Bellator 274, a welterweight showdown. Didn't quite know if it was number one contender at a bare minimum pretty close. And it got a little dicey there in the third and fourth rounds for Logan Storley, but he gutted it out and he beat, basically in the end, I think a slightly overmatched Neiman Gracie.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Does this win in your mind, BC, turn Logan Storley into Bellator's number one welterweight contender? See that? So for all intents and purposes, it was, yes, that type of performance. It was gritty. It was gutsy. I mean, there was so much to like about it. But man, this is a crowded title picture atop that.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yaroslav Amoslav is going to fight MVP coming up and can't wait. One of the better matchups you can make in the promotion. But Jason Jackson, I think, has the resume at the moment that trumps everyone else with the five straight wins and with the only loss in nine fights being really kind of a disputed decision, he'll have to beat Douglas Lima coming off of that losing streak first. So it's almost as if we have three and the third being Andre Korshkov,
Starting point is 00:28:55 which I'm sure we'll get into, who also looked insanely great on, on Saturday night. We had sort of three fights where I think the winner in each could make a large statement to, to grab that attention and to cut that line. Yeah, I think this was a potentially a line cutting performance. You know, I'm not sure which direction Scott Coker is going to end up going, but Storley put his best
Starting point is 00:29:16 foot forward in trying to find out. And what was interesting, Luke, was for all the talk heading in about who's grappling, you know, who's, I'm sorry, who's ground game grappler versus wrestler would get the edge, would get the advantage. You know, this was almost Usman Covington one in terms of the reluctance of both to even really want to find that out. It was, you know, 89% on the feet and Logan Storlie can box man. And we saw that, that, that motor, that aggressiveness against Amasov which really put him on our maps in that three-round war they had but with the questions he had to answer coming in man it was great to see him pass that test and luke it was great to see him get legitimately tested
Starting point is 00:29:57 in what was a batshit crazy fourth round i'll give this fight credit. It heated up. It got better as it went on and they hurt each other. And it looked like Storlie who later said he thought his orbital bone was broken. He went numb. He couldn't feel it. Uh, they both were in the dark, deep end of the pool. And I got a lot of criticisms for some of Neiman Gracie strategic decisions, but no critique for his heart, his willingness to exchange by the end of this fight Luke these two went at it you got to learn a lot about them and obviously Logan Storley rightfully so is is the is the big headline here yeah I want to talk about Neiman Gracie in just a second but speaking with Storley and this fight more generally I thought this was
Starting point is 00:30:39 a this was the performance I think he needed quite candidly the Amosov one was super close maybe you could score it for him but you know I didn't I thought that Amosov I scored that fight in real time and I thought Amosov did it did more work in the end it was so close though and then of course he had that rematch or I should say the rebound fight in South Dakota which gets an unheralded opponent didn't do all that great and he's been this guy who's been on the radar for such a long time I remember when Douglas Lima I think first lost the title I was looking at the welterweight division saying that you know Beltor's got a lot of young guys who are on the come up here who are about to take some
Starting point is 00:31:12 so but people do take stock of them he was one of them if not chief among them and here he was in a five-round fight where he didn't go back to his normal strengths of wrestling basically at all I mean there was a little bit where he had to, but more or less at all. So he was fighting outside of his normal comfort zone, didn't rely on previous strengths, stuck to a game plan, showed a ton of heart after getting, could be his face broken, whatever happened to him, gutting it out, then re-rocking basically Neiman Gracie after he got rocked,
Starting point is 00:31:40 stepping on the gas in the fifth. You know, dude, this was, again, it wasn't complete in the sense that he did everything, he did a five round main event outside of his comfort zone stuck to a game plan fought out of resistance fought out of bad places when he had to and then really stuck it to him in the end there by making sure he left you know no stone unturned by the time it went to the judges that was a very developed performance. And we should say something, BC. You see a lot of these guys who are wrestlers who go to Sanford MMA and they come out looking great. Dude, Henry Hooft down there, and I'm sure it's not just him, but him and then all the coaches
Starting point is 00:32:15 who have a role. Whoever down there at Sanford MMA led by Henry Hooft, I'll put it that way, who's getting these wrestlers like Mike Chandler who can go low go high the reason why his his his wrestling was so successful BC is yes his hands have come such a long way and they gave him a great game plan but at least early he was threatening the level change constantly and it worked due to put him off to a good pace to take that first round set you know set the tone early dude those guys at Sanford MMA they know what they're doing generally, and they're doing a great job with these wrestlers transitioning over. You know, that's where Rashad's found
Starting point is 00:32:49 a little bit of a fountain of youth as well by putting in work against all those guys. But so Storlie, I really, you nailed it. I really liked that he put all of those other doubts or whispers or concerns or fears we had for him away. He is ready whether he gets a title shot next or who. Look, maybe he gets freaking Andrei Koreskov next, which would be a hellacious number one contender fight.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Whatever he gets next, he seems to be in a great spot. I do want to just, like, are we victim of falling for the fool's gold, though, of two nontraditional strikers engaging in a striking match and thinking that he's more advanced than he is? I mean, the Amoslav fight was a little bit different because it was on the ground a lot, and it was just constant back and forth momentum. But do you think he can have this type of striking performance
Starting point is 00:33:40 against a much more seasoned elite striker, or do you not worry about that? Because depending on the matchup, he's going to spend half of that fight on the ground anyway. Yeah, it'd be the latter. Gracie was the one that makes it dicey because if you go down there, you don't want to get subbed or reversed or something like that.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So he was really quite fearful of that. I think understanding it. But just look at the rest of the division. Let's say Logan Storley fought MVP. He's not going to wrestle. That's probably all he's going to do is wrestle if he fought douglas lima i suspect it'd be the same thing now of course it'll combine different things but you know wrestling will be a it will feature prominently or how about jason jackson it'll feature prominently how about your point koreshkov it'll feed every way it goes other than this
Starting point is 00:34:23 gracie fight it will have probably a very strong element of wrestling I think the better question would be hey what if Lima or less so MVP but what if Lima or Koreshkov can stop those takedowns and now he's forced to trade with them on the feet well then I don't know how well he does but assuming he can mix the threats up yeah BC he can beat a lot of guys he can be he can be champion in bellator in this welterweight division absolutely very fair uh now we gotta talk gracie so luke it's like what was your criticism of his tactical choices i'm curious way too willing to to take to to roll the dice on the feet when it was clearly becoming obvious that storley was getting the better of
Starting point is 00:35:02 the exchanges and his power was just having much more of an impact, obviously short of that fourth round where both had monster moments. I just thought, look, in the end, I scored this five rounds to zero for Storlie, which is what one of the three judges had. And I, and you know, it comes down to if, if you're Gracie, you know, he raised his hands at the end of the fifth, when the fight was over in, and I want to give him so much respect for just gutting it the hell out and like i mean took bombs and he just kept coming back and he was finding almost creative ways to land some looping shots in the fourth and fifth round
Starting point is 00:35:34 but luke i don't think he tried nearly enough to bring this fight into his strength right yeah there was that late stand-up by the referee but it it wasn't like Gracie was trying to go for trips or shooting for the legs or even trying those Damian Maia-type situations where you just fall back into guard and hope the guy comes with you. I didn't see that, and we know that he needs that. He needs to live in that spiderweb to have the greatest chance to win. I don't get just rolling the dice and going, all right, let's see if I can outstrike him the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I mean, it would have been brilliant in round four when he hurt Storlie if this turns into a quick finish we're like holy crap look at Neiman Gracie but that's a big gamble to take Luke it is a big gamble to take I mean here's the thing about Neiman Gracie that I just feel like we got to put in context I think when his first foray into Bellator began, people just did not take him seriously. I mean, they took his ground game seriously, but they didn't think he was going to be what he ultimately ended up becoming, which was a top welterweight contender who has much more well-rounded skills than people imagine. Even his jiu-jitsu has gotten better for MMA purposes by tightening up what works, picking the high percentage stuff, and really sticking to it. His wrestling has gotten a lot better as well.
Starting point is 00:36:47 He has vastly exceeded expectations in terms of where he started to where he is now. To your point, there obviously still is a bit of a gap between him and the top of that division. Jason Jackson has beaten him, and now Logan Storley. So you're putting a couple of those names ahead of him in that list. Rory McDonald as well. He's got some work to do, but I just feel like while I can acknowledge BC that you know this this he rocked Storlie in the fourth right so it wasn't a total loss in that sense but I think your point is it just had too much of that Demian Maya versus Anderson Silva thing
Starting point is 00:37:21 where it's like Demian okay you're struck with him for four rounds already. You didn't get knocked out, but it's just not going anywhere. Go try something else. Fair point. And I think, you know, one thing we didn't talk about a lot was his last win coming into this fight against Mark Leminger where he walked Leminger down and kind of like brutally stopped him. And I think that may have given Gracie a non-realistic look at his own striking game.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Maybe. I'll just say this. For as fair as I think the argument is that he still has some development to go to really put a stamp on this division, I just want to make sure, I just want to make sure we don't lose sight of the fact that sometimes guys don't get a lot of uh acclaim or praise and they end up vastly exceeding what maybe we thought of them maybe even what they thought of themselves or even the promoter i think neiman gracie is that guy still i think relatively i'm not sure how old
Starting point is 00:38:16 he is i have to look it up but 33 33 still got a little bit of time to do some work hasn't taken a ton of damage in his career and i gotta say for him too you know you're right there probably could have been a couple things the hindsight's always 2020 but two guys who showed by the way a five round cardio for this you know yes they were tired but they were still pushing in the fifth you know I'm glad Bellator made the switch and while this was not the most in you know barn burning fight beginning to end it certainly took on life in the championship rounds oh dude here was amazing if that fight was just three rounds it was kind of a boring ho-hum fight five rounds you got a much more contested
Starting point is 00:38:51 affair a much more difficult affair when we're both guys had to rally out of bad spots and injuries it was suitable for us to sort which contenders deserve which placements and by the way bc i think that should be factored in depending on what happens with mvp excuse me uh douglas lima and uh now i can't remember who the hell he's fighting anymore i'm a solid i'm a no mvp is fighting amasav who's douglas lima fighting my brain doesn't work jason jackson jason jackson yes i do think the fact that this one was five i believe that one is only three depending on how that goes we should weight this one a little more heavily because it was a much more difficult affair would you live in a world where any number one contender fight whether it's a main event or not should be a
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Starting point is 00:40:32 they still have the cardio for it i mean it gets dangerous sometimes in those last two rounds but it also ends up being sort of that uh you know that own makeshift gatekeeper to tell us who is ready for this or not so you're right it changes the strategy a ton but it kind of shows us who's ready and who's not so I wouldn't I wouldn't hate it Luke I really wouldn't I wouldn't hate it either all right let's go to point number three here this was a special one I had not intended to like make this a point you know heading into when I was thinking about what will likely make the rundown on Monday I would not have put this there ordinarily at least on paper and then the fight turned out the way that it turned out. And I just
Starting point is 00:41:08 can't not talk about it. How about Andre Koreshkov and what he did to chance Ren counter? Now we'll talk about the injury a little bit later in the show. He broke a bunch of ribs and it was the worst thing you've ever seen in your life. Very rarely do you see a catastrophic injury like this. But here's a more important question, BC. Fucking Andrei Koreshkov is only 29 years old. Feels like he's been around forever, BC. Where does he rank after Saturday in your mind among welterweights in Bellator and among welterweights more generally? I think it's time to revisit this conversation.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I think you're right. So I thought his comeback here, which included a non-Bellator sort of regional fight in Russia, but then it was that absolute domination of Sabah Hamasi, and now this. Luke, if Scott Coker wanted to and just said, sorry, former champion, he just dominated two guys that were, you know, okay. Names here. I'm, I'm fast tracking this guy to the title. I wouldn't be against it. Right. I went, you wouldn't hate that even though this division so crowded, he's right back where he should be. And it's, it's really, I didn't think he could be this good given the layoff, the injuries,
Starting point is 00:42:20 you know, he's had some big losses in between, you know, he lost chapters two and three of the Douglas Lima rivalry, but this is fricking violent as shit. I mean, this is, this is prime Spartan Koreshkov, Luke. It is just heavy. Everything he throws is precise and heavy. It's hard to say, where does he rank now globally in the top 10 at this weight division? Because you would have to see him, you know, matched up against some guys outside of here to really prove where he's at, but he looks like he can contend with anybody right now. Luke.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I mean, you, when you make, when you were able to mix together and it took him a while to learn this game, we always referenced that Ben Askren title loss early on where he was just a novice in there. And he got,
Starting point is 00:43:04 you know, I mean, he got ridden really like a horse, the whole ride, you know, I mean, he got ridden really like a horse, the whole fight. It was one of those Ben, you know, Ben Askren trash talk, taunting moments, but he still has the explosiveness and then obviously the power and the timing, but he's mixing it now with lessons learned and IQ, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:22 all those years put in and he's got a good team there. Like Alexander Shlomenko has been in this corner, the former Bellator middleweight champion since day one. So, um, uh, yeah, Luke, I feel like he could, he could make a tough ass fight against anybody in the world right now. And that that's, you know, we, dude, be honest with me when he was gone for two years, you forgot he existed. Yes, totally.'ll i'll i will claim absolute uh mia culpa on this one i i have forgot i mean i've respected this guy at certain times when i thought everyone was disrespecting him but now this this is a different conversation this is bc now let me correct the record i said he was 29 he's 31 or i think he just turned 31, whatever the case. Yeah, he'll be 32 in August. So he's 31.
Starting point is 00:44:06 He made his debut in March, in Bellator debut in March of 2012. So he's coming up on 10 years in Bellator. 31 years old. You see, how many guys have we talked about who, you know, they're 27 years old or something and they haven't quite figured it out, but they've gotten a lot better than what they were
Starting point is 00:44:20 when they were 21, 22, 23. That's true. I think he's on his probably last major developmental cycle, but this is the part where a lot of the pieces of the game and the experience and the savvy and the athletic development all begin to merge right here. And everyone gets it a little bit differently in different times. But Koreshkov, to me, is coming into his own.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Lands a spinning back kick, and then as soon as chance, but he obviously let it go, grabs for the takedown. He was automatically breaking the wrist and turning into him. Of course, it wasn't a full-throated effort because he was in dire agony, but the point I'm trying to make is I just feel like he's a lot more ready for the kinds of challenges that previously have given him trouble. He'll never be as good on the mat as he is on the feet. That's probably pretty fair, and he does have a lost via choke to Douglas Lima. So to me, BC, what I would like to
Starting point is 00:45:11 see is if Logan Storley is not your number one contender, for whatever reason, it's either Lima or Jason Jackson at that Bellator London event. Fine. Let it be what it is. Logan Storley would be a hell of a test for Koreshkov because Koreshkov suffered greatly under Ben Askren. Obviously, a lot of other guys have had some issues or some successes, I should say, with him on the ground. That might be the fight to make, but I definitely believe that this guy on the right night, on the right night, can beat top five talent.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Abso-effing-lutely, he is that good. Any fight right now between Jason Jackson and these two, Storlie and Koreshkov is money. And like, let's give Bellator credit. They don't do everything right, but this is a division they have. They have a fun, young group. I mean, this is
Starting point is 00:45:55 great. And obviously, Bellator is going to launch the Bantamweight Tournament, the Grand Prix, and it's stacked. We can't wait for it. And there's certainly other divisions where they have sometimes more strength than others. But these guys, Luke, these can't wait for it. And there's certainly other divisions where they have sometimes, you know, more strength than others. But, you know, these guys, Luke, these aren't, you know, retreads. These are guys that are coming in here,
Starting point is 00:46:11 and they're going for it at the same exact time, and it's fun to watch. How weird is it, by the way, that Bellator has had two of the worst injuries I've ever seen in MMA? I've seen guys break ribs. I don't think I've seen five in one, or I should say, I don't think I've seen five from one strike. I don't think I've seen five in one or I should say I don't think I've seen five from one strike I don't think I've ever seen five from one strike and the other part and again we'll get to that a little bit later but the other part is like we said this on Friday BC he fights mean dude is there a greater example of him fighting mean than the immediate intensity
Starting point is 00:46:41 with which he throws every it's jarring to his opponents even when he doesn't break the ribs when he just lands like dude this guy fights with a certain intensity you just have to respect yeah it's funny we were at you know covering showbox this weekend in orlando getting to hang out with barry tompkins raul marquez and you're just you know you're talking fights fight history fights we've covered and you know you end up talking about that that some guys just have a different like fighting will like in spirit to them and you go to somebody up talking about that that some guys just have a different like fighting will like in spirit to them and you go to somebody like manny pacquiao and you're like okay you know he was selling donuts and cigarettes on the streets in his teens just to try to you know
Starting point is 00:47:15 keep his family you know out of like the worst level of poverty and when somebody like that makes it and i mean he fights like he's broke even in his you know early 40s manny pacquiao i mean it's a special gift but you look at him and you get it right and there's certain other guys who we've seen come from just ridiculous backgrounds in the u.s and they've got this next level fighting spirit but luke there is just something about the Russians right now and all of those countries, man. It's just like, I mean, it's just. It's exciting. It's exciting.
Starting point is 00:47:52 It's just, it's an intensity, Luke, that it's like, I need to see what you went through to have this as your default foundation demeanor. You know what I mean? Like, how the hell do you fight that devastating because you know you know there's some shit that went down unfortunately luke that formed you know the the basics of of who these individuals became and these guys are villains in an action movie luke sorry what i was gonna i did want to point out that i think koreshkov fights me and the other part is you had the MVP knee over Cyborg and you had this kick to the ribs.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Both injuries that happened in Bellator. And then, of course, Dada5000's heart attack. Some of the more devastating injuries I've ever seen have happened in Bellator. And by things that you have seen thrown, you've seen a million spinning back kicks, you've seen a million jump knees. But for some reason, they happened over there. Those've seen a million spinning back kicks. You've seen a million jump knees, but for some reason, they happened over there.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Those dudes got wrecked as a consequence. You ever notice there's like an inordinate amount of stick kicks in Bellator, Luke? It's a lot of kicking in the dick, man. I mean, every time it happens to you. It used to be worse at heavyweight. Who was the big guy
Starting point is 00:48:58 who it was like he was Brock. He would turn the color of Country Time pink lemonade. He was like a former army guy, big old dude. And he had like six fights in a row where either he did or someone he was fighting. The fight had to be stopped because of nutsack kicks that crippled people. And it went on for like years. We're like, dude, how does this motherfucker still keep kicking people in the balls and getting kicked in the balls?
Starting point is 00:49:21 I have to look up his name. I forget. Yeah, I was there for a Mitch. We own care. Tonoff was a recent Bellator. Like first strike of the first strike of the fight. It's over. Yeah. It just tends to happen there a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'll find, I'll find his name here in a second. Let's talk about a little bit of boxing BC. Cause there was some good ones over the weekend. And how about Kel Brook? We were not so sure how this one was going to go. We knew a mirror was washed. We were concerned. Kel was washed one was going to go. We knew Amir was washed. We were concerned Kel was washed. Kel ain't washed. Not yet. Not on this night he wasn't
Starting point is 00:49:51 washed. Dude, he didn't just beat Amir Khan. He beat Amir Khan from the opening bell until the referee had mercy on him. One-way traffic basically the entire time dominant does this prove not only obviously brook was better than con of course but bc he still has something left in the tank the obituaries on kelbrook's career they came a little early didn't they they did and at the end of this okay look look for what this fight was, which was a sloppy Super Bowl, I mean, his performance was a 10 out of 10, and that starts with the shape
Starting point is 00:50:29 he got in. And, Luke, even though he got stopped by Terrence Crawford in his last fight, just like Amir Khan did two fights ago, Brooke came into that camp just, I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:38 best shape of his career. So he's taking his twilight seriously, and we knew there was potential for him to just be way more fresher than khan and it played out that way and it's like man this is the story of every american fight because like i like this game plan and i like the moments of of big success he was having but i don't want to overplay how good kel looked and what this win means for him you know in terms of
Starting point is 00:51:01 what could be next i mean he's gonna get a payday out of this, but I really fear that that payday is going to come against some young hungry dude, which is inevitable in the life cycle of fighting that you feed your old to your young. And, you know, somebody is going to hurt him. Cause I don't think we really know exactly how much Cal has in the tank. And when fights go into the second half and they're competitive and close, you know, his body, his face sometimes can fall apart. But yeah, for this level, for this matchup, his patience, by the way, you had to know coming in, no matter the version of the American you're facing, that you're going to get a hurricane of combinations and hand speed in the first round.
Starting point is 00:51:37 And that was that. But I love that Brooke commanded the center of the ring, didn't use too much energy and just waited, waited, right-hand counter. And every time he touched Khan, it was, you know, I mean, it turned out to be a mercy stoppage, Luke. And it was a great stoppage by Victor Laughlin, the referee, because Khan was one punch away for about two and a half rounds where you're like, he's going to be a flat line.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Like when it connects, he's, you know, there's going to be a catastrophe. So I'm glad that we saved that but it's like if you get really excited that oh kel's not as washed as we thought guess what luke they're just going to put him in there with a stud and that stud can could could could break him you know okay fair if what ends up happening is kel Brook, by virtue of this performance, ends up getting someone who is young, hungry, talented, and he's reaching too far by virtue of the promotional extra muscle that this one had, fine. I'm not anticipating that he would win. But even Steven, who's your guy there? Breadman was tweeting about this, and he was saying he thinks, too, that Brooke's washiness has been somewhat overstated.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Now, obviously, you've got the eye injuries from some devastating fights. I rewatched the fight with Brooke and Errol Spence, for example, and his whole shit was rocked from that one to say nothing of the triple G fight on top of that. Like, he has reached above and taken damage. He is not the same guy i understand that however bc in this one he was to your point he was patient he was calculating he was also just like to me he looked physically like this was a joke to him he could have done with a much tougher opponent and physically held his own i think that's the point i'm trying to say but isn't that the fear because yes okay okay but maybe he maybe you're right maybe he leapfrogs too far but the idea that like kelbrook is so beat up that short of someone being also extra washy he can't win i don't agree with that i think that's
Starting point is 00:53:36 going too far i do agree with that only because he's kind of a different version of amir khan right now meaning like that sharpness we saw there against Khan, who just has zero punch resistance left. Like that, that same sharpness would be there. Look, and there's talks of, you know, should they put him in there with the bright young prospect, Conor Benn? Or I've got even Chris Eubank is calling out, you know, Kel to move back up to middleweight like he did against Triple G and try to face him for the money. And you're like, I don't want to see him get hurt there. But is there other welterweight matchups where he could look great for four or five rounds? Yes, there are.
Starting point is 00:54:16 But I still it doesn't change that fear that he implodes eventually in a, you know, in a destructful way. But I don't want to harp on that too much because he looked great. And Luke, this turned out to be an event, man. And I always shout out UK boxing not just the energy of the fans in the arena because I mean that whole nation and the multiple uh you know parts of it and let's obviously lump Ireland in with this like it's just real to them out there I mean boxing is hot and that arena experience, I know it's two faded stars, but it's still two stars who had like what an 18 year beef against each other. I was like, if you could
Starting point is 00:54:52 feel that watching at home, how great the, the, uh, the pop was in there and the, the energy and the feeling. So it turned out to look like a pay-per-view, you know, championship main event in the end, Luke. And it was, it was good to see those guys get that moment. It was good to see Brooke get carried around by Dominic Engel afterwards. And no one had to, you know, share fluids this time, at least not a camera. And I kind of wish both can just retire because I love that they hugged in the center of the ring afterwards. I love that, you love that they buried the hatchet. Even Amir Khan's like, I don't even remember sparring you back in the day, bro.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I know we built this whole feud on this. I don't even remember the sparring session. I wish they'd just both walk away at 35. You know what I'm saying? Let me read you a tweet from Stephen Edwards. They got paid, Luke. Khan got $7 million. How much did they make for this? Khan got $7, and i think it was four
Starting point is 00:55:45 for brooke so they got paid dude all right it's a good it's a good payday for them actually uh this is a tweet from stephen edwards react to this tell me what you think because i know you respect him highly this is a great trainer in boxing quote a fighter gets stopped and he gets called chinny brooke is and he put it in all caps, not chinny. He's actually sturdy. Triple G would stop 99% of 147s ever. Brooke never went down. Spence broke his face and stopped him on attrition. Bud landed a perfect shot. A sturdy sharpshooter always beats Khan.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Brooke equals sturdy. What do you make of that? I think that's right because we're not talking about his chin. We are just talking about the fear of his face walling apart and maybe and look maybe that's too aggressive of a fear because two big punchers did it in big time title fights um do i think kelbrook could beat the the elite level no we saw his close-up against terence crawford i know bud is next level but i think if he wants to hang on to get another big payday and it's probably going to be against a riser you know is it out of the question that he has a nonito donair type late career moment or mini resurgence it's not out of the question because of the shape he's in and because you're
Starting point is 00:56:57 right he looked freaking sharp in there so yes he is sturdy Luke but there's an expiration date within the fight i believe on that sturdiness that's fair by the way um sort of thinking about this content well you know what no it's not really worth bringing up all that much uh but do you by the way khan afterwards said i think this might be it he didn't declare retirement for the love of god you have to hope hope this is Khan at his end because he even said it's not Bomax fault. Who was his trainer? He looked to be in great shape on the scales. Like he did the physical work.
Starting point is 00:57:34 He talked about trying to get his legs under him. And as soon as Kel started landing on him, everything just collapsed. It looks to me like his body is at the end of its run. I'm really hoping this is the end. Yeah. And this is the worst scenario for a fighter to hang on because khan still got it offensively luke i know that he was largely hurt during this fight but i thought he won the second
Starting point is 00:57:53 round and i thought he had moments really well you know every round played out khan would kind of control the first two minutes and then get rocked in the final minute i mean that's how it played out so if you're khan and that's the story of his whole career, if you're Khan, you're probably thinking, well, man, I still, still got it. Right. I mean, how many times do we see fighters hang on Luke when they got nothing left, but they're the last to know about it. How about when you still physically, you're still quick as crap. You know, you're still, I mean, when he was on the move against Brooke, he was, he was successful. And I thought, Luke, was on the move against Brooke, he was successful. And I thought, Luke, this was probably some of the best head movement from Khan we ever saw.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Does he still stay in the pocket too long with his chin up? Yes, it's sort of a problem that he's always going to have. But he was ducking out of the way of shots and then stepping to the side. I mean, the combination of Bud Crawford and Bomak seemed to help him. So, yes, I fear that he's going to remember only that and inevitably come back once more. I don't know. I don't know, man. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I mean, he's made a lot of money. He's been a star. He's acted like a star, even when we stopped believing in him. But he's been concussed multiple times in many fights. Flatlined. And not to mention being flatlined a couple times. I mean, that Canelo one, which I was ringside for in Las Vegas,
Starting point is 00:59:14 it's among the most sort of harrowing experiences where you're like, you know know nobody wants to talk about it afterwards at how loud that punch gets stretchered for that one i don't remember but the the sound was just insane that close and then obviously you know his his body just i mean the goat you could see the ghost leave him i mean dude to be, to be fair, most guys don't want, forget coming back from that. Most guys don't want to come back from that type of loss. And you know, this guy's always had the balls to stand in there and fight. I mean, if you want a great fight, talk about BC's top 10 great fights for MMA fans, go revisit his win over Marcos Maidana. He had to walk the tightrope a lot
Starting point is 01:00:00 in that one, but, but he did it. mean this guy always always but man dude you know i'm getting flashbacks to that canelo knockout being there that close you know that's terrible yeah that's terrible shit you know that's all right speaking of knockouts and we'll end our top five on this bc uh knuckle mania was over the weekend and no it was not on brazzers it was actually on fight tv mike perry and chad mendez bc among others scored some pretty significant wins um mike perry had to earn a little bit but he got it chad mendez looked phenomenal i won that one basically walking away multiple uh dropping his opponent multiple times do you have any major takeaways about either the mendez or the perry victory here
Starting point is 01:00:44 well i apologize you can dead wrong me that last friday show i was saying the card was friday it was saturday and you know there's some i mean dave feldman's telling the schmoe that it did like a ridiculously big gate and all this stuff i mean who knows we'll see what happens but they had names on it they gave us a reason to tune in and even though i'm not i'm not brent brookhouse level in love with the format of bare knuckle they do consistently produce um entertainment luke i mean it's it's quick moving too they don't waste a lot of time you know like like that next fight is starting and um uh my biggest takeaways is chad mendez belongs on this stage and And, you know, some of it I do, I'll admit when
Starting point is 01:01:27 Mike Perry and Julian Lane showing up, show up at BKFC, you go, yeah, I get it. I get it. Right. You know, I get it. Right. So, uh, but when Chad Mendes does, you're like, man, this guy's almost too talented and successful in his regular walk of life to want or need this. And it wouldn't be the first guy though, that's done that and tried this. And it wouldn't be the first guy though, that's done that and tried this and then maybe was ineffective. I mean, you know, even Paulie Malignaggi tried it once,
Starting point is 01:01:49 but Mendes looks perfectly suited for this style. It's in, it's different than boxing and MMA and there's, and it takes adjusting. And he talked afterwards, how effed up his hands and knuckles were, but his timing, his explosion,
Starting point is 01:02:04 his ability to navigate distance, he gets it. And if he wants to keep making big money in big fights, I mean, try to tell me right now, without even thinking about what weight class they would do at Luke, try to tell me right now you'd get fired up to see him and Mike Perry in a bare knuckle boxing match, right? It's just like, of course you would. It's just something like, he actually kind of knows what he's doing so look do you believe him when he says he made more for this debut than francis and gano did taking 600,000 in his last heavyweight title defense maybe if he did it probably isn't a lot more and again you
Starting point is 01:02:37 know that's just the base pay for um for uh francis he would get some pay-per-view points so in the end he might get a lot more but in terms terms of base pay, he probably got more. But this is the idea. This is what BKFC is up against. As long as they can rent the time, the career time of a Chad Mendes or a Mike Perry, guys who are not washed, but still have a little bit of what made them great in them to still compete, and they've clearly got some name value,
Starting point is 01:03:03 they can probably do pretty well i don't know how long they can survive on that because it does come at a very expensive cost to rent that portion of their career which is really what a promoter is doing they have to go above and beyond to get them because they are asking them to compete outside of their normal sort of career sport anyway what they need is i know you're asking about chad and mike we're just thinking about bkfc a little bit i do think it's worth saying they need someone you know this is very easy to say they need an aj mckee and by that i mean not a transcendental talent per se but what they need someone who at all points a promoter is just renting a portion of a fighter's career
Starting point is 01:03:40 but they need someone who can come up through those ranks and then beat the chad mendez's beat the mike perry's right because as long as you're just renting stars from other sports they're only ever going to tune in to watch them which is fine you will get them when they're there but when they're no longer there there's nothing really holding it some kind of anchoring um figure needs to be there inside bkfc to elevate beyond, hey, would you tune in for Chad? Yes. Would you tune in for Mike? Yes. That's expensive and short-term. Are you saying they need a male Paige Van Zandt,
Starting point is 01:04:11 or are you saying they need a grassroots, we didn't know this guy before, and now he's the BKFC champion, and he's beating MMA guys who still have more than a little bit left? I would say the way it currently goes, you're getting some pretty big MMA names, but not your biggest by any stretch. You're getting guys that Tiago Alves, I think,
Starting point is 01:04:31 contended for a UFC title, UFC 100 against St. Pierre, but he didn't win. Chad Mendes contested for a title, but didn't win. So these are championship-level fighters. And so you're getting, and Mike Perry didn't get that close, but obviously he's a good fit for BK, FC. But what I'm trying to point out, what I think is really missing from bare knuckle, again, they can do this, and I think it will be good for them.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But imagine someone coming through who all they've ever... Maybe they dabbled in boxing, maybe they dabbled in MMA, but somewhere along the lines, they just made BKFC their thing. They ran through it, and then they started beating other stars at it in a way where they became like this anchoring thing rather than i'm just trying to rent what's left of someone else's athletic time from a separate sport i think that shift to the extent they can make it would be better for their long-term chances but that's easier and look i kind of like like Chris Lytle on commentary too. Dude,
Starting point is 01:05:26 Chris Lytle, Chris Lytle, I can't, can I talk today? Chris Lytle knows a lot about the fight game. This is a guy who was Mr. Remember when he was competing, you didn't care if he won or lose you.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And it was, it came after the loss to Matt Sarah, the ultimate fighter finale season four. I think the, the, the rebirth or whatever they called it. He was just like you know what, fuck all this. I'm just going to fight to win motherfucking bonuses, win
Starting point is 01:05:51 or lose. And he would go out there and do exactly that. He was well-rounded so he could play the levels. He ended up saying he got enough money from UFC bonuses to buy a home, I think a boat, and then put all of his kids through college because he was so consistently not spending anything, getting these 50K, 100K checks on top,
Starting point is 01:06:12 putting it in the bank, and he used it wisely. Good for him, dude. That guy has seen a lot and done a lot. And there's something authentic to the way he commentates that I really like. And his voice seems to barely get out of him and it's, you know, it's gruffy, but he's,
Starting point is 01:06:26 he's a smart guy and he breaks it down. Well, now quickly on Mike Perry, Luke, which was sort of billed as the headliner, even though the, the Luis Palomino title win ended up being the last fight of the night. Um,
Starting point is 01:06:38 him and Julian lane built up the, you know, the shit storm nicely. You could say, you know what I mean? It might not be your flavor, but they went all in. I mean, they brought a damn bat to the press conference.
Starting point is 01:06:48 But this turned out to be a real fight. And you can have a Chad Mendes come in and kind of dominate the fight and leave without any touches to your face. Or you can go in there and get carved up. Mike Perry had to work a lot harder than I think any of us, and most importantly, he thought he would against somebody of Lane's perceived talent now let's talk about Lane here you know he'd been chinny at times in the past and they talked about a lot in this broadcast like you know inevitably his
Starting point is 01:07:14 chin's gonna probably give out no dude he actually I think utilized the fact that he's had nine bare knuckle fights before used that experience to his advantage he made this very hard for perry and luke perry took a beating in victory and let's also mention when perry won that that triad trailer fight against michael seals last time out he also took a beating in that split decision win i think we're right in saying that you know why perry is a perfect signing for bkfc is because he does appear to have something left in the tank legitimately on the MMA side if he wanted to. And he certainly got some fight in him. Dude, he's used up a lot of that fight in two consecutive ones.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Luke, there's no question about it. Well, he might have gotten paid for him. You know, I know he got a decent check, a couple hundred grand or more from the triad one. He probably got something similar. So at a bare minimum minimum I think you're right you know he is Mike Perry definitely still has a lot of fight left in him but he's also going through these blood and guts wars that will shorten that window for however long he can use it but I will say like the Mendez's and the Perry's these guys who are very valuable to be KFC and
Starting point is 01:08:21 would be valuable to other promoters but they're extremely valuable to BKFC because you can get guys who the fans know are not done but they're fresh off that UFC run there's no there's no well you got to try a thing which you want but there's not a lot of poisoning in between there's not a lot of long time where these are retreads they're not retreads these are guys still I would argue I don't know where Mendez is but for BKFC he seemed prime-ish and I would still say the same for Mike Perry but but you're right. I mean, the way in which these fights are going, it's weird, dude. Sometimes these guys come out of BKFC fights,
Starting point is 01:08:50 and we're going to talk about this chance of encounter injury later, so I don't want to say what's worse. But, dude, there does appear to be something. I think there is research that supports this. The facial lacerations that these bare-knuckle boxers get are horrific dude they're brutal brutal i mean i felt bad for paulie getting carved up that time by uh by the goat you know in in that one off he had as well um luke can we speaking of getting brutalized our girl britain beltran britain heart um loss yeah yeah it was a rematch with, I think her name was Ferea,
Starting point is 01:09:26 the fighter who had beaten her in the past. This was for the vacant title. And Luke, I don't know how close you watch sort of like the IG story of both Britton Beltran and Joey Beltran, her husband, but like Britt took this real serious, this fight, you know, putting in incredible camp. Shout out to Coach Haas, Joseph Janik,
Starting point is 01:09:43 her boxing trainer at Knuckleheads. But she got handled here this was a very strong performance from ferreta out boxer and you know old brit man she took a facial beat i mean look these are like car crash images afterwards yeah they look like they've been attacked by a bear or some kind of wild animal that was scratching them you know like i almost felt bad that like whether it's a britain heart who's like this grassroots story who you know come becoming legit or whether you're saying it's somebody you know who had success in mma but this is where they're at now dude the other side of it is like i question if it's worth it when you have to go through these type of fights consecutively you really got a question if it's worth it. When you have to go through these type of fights consecutively, you really got to question if it's worth it, Luke.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I mean, this is... It's a hard way to make a living. It's a hard way to make a living. I mean, it's not that it's easier with 8-ounce gloves and all the head trauma you'll take combined. That's not easier. But some of that, Luke, is sort of like hope and pray, right? You know, that it's not as bad as you think.
Starting point is 01:10:45 This sport, you wear it home, dude. You know? You get tattooed in this one. No doubt about it. That is it for our Top 5 BC. It's no longer time for you to ask me questions or vice versa. It's time for the viewers
Starting point is 01:10:59 to ask us questions. It's time for DMs from Donks. As everybody knows, we put up a social post on sundays we ask you to fill it up the producers pick them and then we answer them bc i'll go first here at high underscore on underscore tubs oh jesus fuck uh someone's asking me how bad is jamal hill's chest tattoo well i like jamal Jamal Hill. By the way, you spelled Jamal wrong. Both the, well, more so than you. The producers were trying to pick it, but they still spelled it wrong.
Starting point is 01:11:31 You know, this segment can do nothing but get me in trouble. I'll say my last tattoo did not come out the way I wanted, so I'm hardly in a position to critique. It's not great. I don't think I've heard you say that, Luke. Yeah, it didn't come out great it didn't come the problem was i picked the right guy he executed it exactly the way that he was supposed to but the aftercare ended up being somewhat unforeseen somewhat i should have planned better just a calamity just a complete is it a calamity because of different practices in columbia or what
Starting point is 01:12:06 um yes but not totally um part of it was because of the heat i out of nowhere the day after getting a tattoo it had nothing to do with the tattoo because i've gotten it other times in my life but i've been using medication to keep it off i got a huge skin rash on the arm that the tattoo was going on and it wasn't on the tattoo itself, but then it grew into it. Then the guy didn't use something called Saniderm, which is what they put on burn victims, but it allows you to cover a new tattoo for up to four or five days, sometimes a week, take it off and then clean it. He just gave me regular old saran wrap, which, you know, there are ways to do it that way, but I don't like it that way.
Starting point is 01:12:43 It creates some other challenges. So my clothes were rubbing up against it i i would be the first person you know i can't you got mr he boss bro you got let he who's within glass houses uh or not in glass houses no let he who is within glass houses throw the first stone but um you know it's not great it's not great but i've also got tattoos that suck and they're not great so but you know now it's not great. It's not great. But I've also got tattoos that suck and are not great. Now, if I joined Mr. HeBoss in getting a tattoo of Emily Whitmire on my left forearm, would you look at me any differently, Luke? You could get the Emily Whitmire tattoo, but you have to get the look on her face when I asked her,
Starting point is 01:13:21 are you surprised we won? Because she was almost waiting for someone to ask her, be like, how did those two fucks win? You know, you got to get, you got to get that face. Not the one of her getting choked out. Although equal discomfort in both. So Jamal Hill's got the double thumbs up tats. And you know what, Luke?
Starting point is 01:13:39 I'm going to give him two thumbs up for him. Okay. I know that artistically they aren't amazing. I mean, but you know. But here's the, here's the thing I would say about this. give him two thumbs up for him okay i know that artistically they aren't yeah amazing i mean but you know but here's the here's the thing i would say about this i i've said it before i'll say it again anyone who's got multiple tattoos almost certainly has at least some of them being bad or at least not great his are uh here which means if he gets a chest or an arm or a shoulder piece he can get them covered up if he wants.
Starting point is 01:14:05 So there are some options for him. There are some options for him. All right. For at Solarsh. That's a real name. BC, gun to your liver. How do you see Prince Nassim versus Pretty Boy Floyd's outcome? Now, listen to this question, BC.
Starting point is 01:14:23 He didn't say money Mayweather. He said the old pretty boy Floyd, him versus Prince Nassim. How's it go? Okay. So we're probably meeting what? 130. Nassim's still going to be a puncher. And, you know, obviously he just is his reaction times ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:14:41 His style is the most unorthodox at the elite level probably that we've ever seen. I mean, it's even more unorthodox than Roy Jones, to be fair. But Floyd is the ultimate technician. He is the ultimate master of timing. Prince Nassim takes so many risks. That's the thing. Floyd is going to, you know, there are times, and mind you, look, it's pretty boy Floyd who was way more offensively inclined than Money Mayweather
Starting point is 01:15:12 due to both the fact that he didn't have as many hand injuries at that point and, you know, the size differences. He could walk dudes down and punch, you know, and Gaff reaching out and mentioning, you know, Emmanuel Augustus, you know, the famed journeyman, the drunken master who gave Floyd what Floyd always says was his toughest fight of all time. You know, it was it was just a tough fight with constant weird movement. Nassim would would succeed in that.
Starting point is 01:15:39 But you're gonna have to ask yourself how long before Floyd makes the adjustment. And, you know, the welterweight version of Floyd, he's 100% focused on finding that hole and making the adjustment. The pretty boy Floyd is a little bit more offensively inclined, but I think the threat of Nassim's power and reaction timing and speed would force Floyd into an early version of that money Mayweather defensive, you know, just you can't solve it. And I think by the second half of that fight, Floyd's going to time him and he's going to discipline him with the right hand. And Luke, as much as people say, okay, Mayweather Pacquiao
Starting point is 01:16:16 came five years too late. I saw that fight. It sucked. It actually didn't suck it boxing wise, right? Just in terms of strategy and technique it was a very interesting fight and i think what so many people realized was floyd never known for a puncher but he could discipline you with his counter shots because they're so clean and they are hard and they're on the money and they're surprising and they're surprised they always catch the guys when they're not expecting it floyd disciplined manny pacquiao at two key moments of that fight to make sure that we didn't see the crazy exciting pacquiao that we saw for a hiccup in that fourth round when he backed floyd up and he hurt him it was it was in rounds one and two and it was in rounds 10 and 11 by standing out there right in
Starting point is 01:17:00 front of him and countering with hard right hands and basically saying dude pacquiao come with that shit with that shit. But like, you're, there's going to be a receipt. You know what I mean? You're going to, you're going to, you know, do you have flashbacks of Marquez all over again? Cause I'm going to make you that. And, and I think he can do that to, to Hamed Luke. I think, I think Floyd beats him. And you know, I'm a, I am like a day one ish Nassim Hamed fan. I mean, I remember like in the late nineties, as a couple years I was really not even watching boxing that closely and yet when Nassim fought on HBO you you made a party about it over it yeah I mean it was it was a it was an ordeal when he came to MSG to fight Kevin Kelly oh my god Luke big deal big deal all right uh at swanky tray he writes or she writes whoever it is is it safe to say that connor is the exception
Starting point is 01:17:46 and that spg and kavanaugh are overrated i got this question a bunch bc you want to tackle it first well uh you know i'm interested in your take on this look i don't know it as in depth i do i have seen this in both boxing mma where one camp is so successful because of you know sometimes one man or two or two men that you just assume they'll have the Midas touch on everyone. And then, you know, they go through that season where they take on all these clients and it, you know, doesn't always work out statistically from Freddie Roach to you name it. OK, but people seem to have an online vitriol for SBG. That's next level. And maybe that's just automatic because Connor is such a divisive figure
Starting point is 01:18:28 tied to that gym. But is it fair, Luke? It's somewhat fair. Now, I've never exactly seen eye to eye with John Cavanaugh. I remember years ago I reported this was when Dylan Danis was first being considered as joining that camp. And I had reported that he was being brought in as a coach, and Kavanaugh took great exception to that.
Starting point is 01:18:48 He's like, he's a training partner, he's not a coach. And I'm like, okay, well, I'm not in the camp. I don't know that. But, you know, when Manny Pacquiao brings in sparring partners, he doesn't bring in guys better than him. He brings in guys worse than him. And also, you know, for a training partner, why is he also cornering with a corners license?
Starting point is 01:19:06 I mean, maybe he's not quite coached, but calling him a training partner seems not accurate either. Anyway, it doesn't really matter at this point anyway. And here we are now. Now, here's part of what is going on, I think. There's a lot of backlash towards Connor. And so I think some of that is just bleeding over, to be honest with you. And it's not all that fair however there is probably a question to ask about is there a difference between the results they get
Starting point is 01:19:29 from Conor and everyone else um I've heard criticisms of that camp quietly from other people both inside and outside of Irish MMA even the most ardent critics tell me that you know Kavanaugh is a good coach and does know what he's talking about so i don't think you can say that this is some like connor's success for example is not accidental and to the extent that other members of that camp have had other forms of success i don't think any of that is accidental and also part of part of having a great camp bc and you know as well as i do is like dude it's one thing for henry hoof to take logan sterling and turn him to what he's into but also you got a logan store you got a four-time all-american who wants to walk in the room and train hard and learn every day
Starting point is 01:20:13 not everybody gets an opportunity to work with someone like that so so understand that but in saying that i have just not seen enough broad success at scale from that camp at levels commensurate not even to Connor but like you know top five guys in part there are recruiting challenges because he's in Ireland he's not over here there's a lot of other factors but there probably is something to be said for the fact that like early on when Connor was saying I have I see this game in all new ways there was a lot of questioning about like Kavanaugh what his ideas are and again he is a very talented coach i don't think you can say he's not but he was probably sharing there was a probably um both guys were probably ballooned up to the front of the or pushed to the front of the pack is like these guys have all the right ideas and now you're seeing that that comes back down
Starting point is 01:21:00 to a more ordinary earthly level the other thing thing is, 2BC, this is true. Some guys can have an advantage early in the game, a coach and fighter tandem, then the rest of the game can catch up and all of their perceived advantages go away. It doesn't mean that they were wrong. It just means they couldn't keep a lap on the competition. The long way of answering this is to say,
Starting point is 01:21:22 I think there's something to it, but be careful about how you apply the criticism. and athletic that, you know, the coach only knows how to train that style to success. And when you try to take that and implement to guys who are not as athletic, smart, you know, and all these other things, you're inevitably going to have, you know, mixed results. And I think we just saw this happen in some form or another. However, the root of it is to what Jackson Wink was, you know, on top for so long and now gets criticized, whether it's fair or not. And,
Starting point is 01:22:06 and for us, the hobby as well. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. Um, the difference I would say though, is for us also took Rory to championship level and granted GSP is, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:18 one in a million, but you, you've seen other evidences of foraz taking people to pretty far extents. Rat garbage before this past weekend. Poor rat garbage. He was fighting so well until he wasn't. Until he ended up on heavy shoes. But also here's the part.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Again, the jury is not out yet. You've got to be careful about some of these criticisms. I think there's something to be said for it, but let's not overstate it. All right. From Gus Nofa. Have any of you dabbled in playing any instruments if so which one we see you play any instruments so um i had i have i still have a great dad and you know looking back and he's and he's he made me the music fan that i am terror at least built that foundation just by, you know, being an obsessive, smart, you know, fan across of all styles and genres.
Starting point is 01:23:09 So I started playing the drums in third grade and my dad went like all out and signed me up for lessons and bought me a really awesome set. And, you know, it's obviously looking back, Luke, if I could have just told myself one piece of advice, right? Go back to like eight and nine year old me been like hey dude just stick with those drums bro okay because it's gonna be you know it's gonna open up a whole world of of fun life in your future in many different areas right but you know every week you go to your drum lesson and they add on another 10 minutes of practice you know what I'm saying Luke and before you know it you're practicing for two hours every day and you're like dude i want to there's like some pro wrestling and cartoons on that i'm i'm supposed to be watching right now you know just
Starting point is 01:23:51 just you look back you know what an asshole right and you know my dad was so great he was like you know if you if you're gonna quit that's fine but make the decision you know and i quit luke and i think we sold that drum set within a couple days and it was just sort of like there goes that chapter in my life and since then luke like a lot of people i have dabbled on the guitar and played you know three four five chords and had years that i was more into it than others and but you know it's not like i could pick it up and entertain you luke okay i can just make weird noises on it so how about about yourself? Look, I'm going to guess that you grew up playing the clarinet or something like that, but like intensely for years.
Starting point is 01:24:29 It's funny. You mentioned clarinet. No, not for me. Although my brother played clarinet and still does. Actually, he could play the clarinet and he could play guitar and play. Well,
Starting point is 01:24:37 well, well, hold on. If you're playing adult clarinet, you're probably playing something pretty cool, like jazz related and stuff. What kind of, what does he play?
Starting point is 01:24:44 Like, I don't know. Where is he playing? Just fun just practices yeah just plays he played in a band like for a little while um in high school slash college but you know just dabbling nothing nothing serious uh i don't play any instruments it's one of the major regrets that i have and can you imagine my dad the man who who handed out roy rogers coupons on halloween bc what would be if you wanted to get your kid interested in music but you wanted to pick the lamest shittiest instrument known to fucking man what would you select for him just the fucking worst like are we talking about like the flute is are all things in play here
Starting point is 01:25:26 the flute the flute would be a major upgrade gaff guessing the triangle i won't think it's that i'm trying it would be equally pathetic but no hopefully your dad understood the need for more cowbell luke but i don't even think he's that cool so uh no um all right you know what the violin is the cello no no do you know what the recorder is yeah yeah it's like a little plasticky flute yeah kind of thing it's like yeah it's like buying your dinner at 7-eleven which i've done many times yeah i get it it's like it's like my dad being like i want my kid to learn how to play music but I don't want to inspire confidence about any choices he ever makes in life. And I want him to look as uncool with a music instrument that plays
Starting point is 01:26:10 just the least appealing sound of any instrument known to man, including the butthole horn for 40. Admit, Luke, admit that that decision by your dad is 99% influenced by the idea that he doesn't want to pay the extra money to like rent a trumpet or something that he knows you're not going to be you're going to care about in a year and he's like you know no no give me the plastic flute okay let's go all right that is
Starting point is 01:26:33 almost certainly what he did and of course three lessons in i'm like dad this fucking sucks i'm nine what are you doing i literally refuse to keep going like, dad, I'm not going to fucking recorder lessons. I want to play a fun instrument. You'll play the fucking recorder. So that went nowhere. And then I don't play anything. There you go. That's my story.
Starting point is 01:26:54 We have one more. Hey, real quick. How much cooler would I be right now at 43 if I had been playing drums for the last 30 years, Luke? I mean, you'd still be a bitch-ass dork you know no way dude no way i'd be real cool dude i wouldn't be in this line of work though probably i think the fact that we're not cool is an inevitability not uh not a not a detour like i probably would have some shitty day job luke but at nights in like dimly lit bars dude i'd be getting at it you know that right maybe that maybe that uh all right from at
Starting point is 01:27:25 punch drunk pete what is bc's favorite part of calling fights and what's something he doesn't like bc what what do you like and not what's your favorite part and something you don't like about calling fight all right my favorite part of calling fights i'm not the play-by-play guy so i don't you know i i don't have the the opportunity and barry topkins is among the all-time greats to work with. It's so fun, so easy. But look, it's the play-by-play guy's job, whether Tim Moore or Ranallo, to react. Todd Grisham's great at it. To react in the moment, right?
Starting point is 01:27:53 The fight-ending moment. I love that energy that creates that sequence. And my job as the color commentator is to sort of add that one line, right? Knockout happens. Play-by-play guy delivers. Winner of the fight jumps up on the corner. The opening is there in the moment for you to just in one line,
Starting point is 01:28:12 passionately sum up what we just saw. Those are the moments, Luke, that I love the best. The ability, again, to add the soundtrack to something that I'm, you know, that I didn't choose. I didn't choose to put on the gloves and get in there. Man, I, you know, there's many days, Luke, I wish I could have been that bold and brave. You know what I mean? Uh, but, uh, that's what I love. What do I not? I don't think there's a part of the job that I don't love Luke. I mean, I even, I even love putting in the time and
Starting point is 01:28:39 watching the fights and, and, you know, and reading, reading every probably travel. Yeah. Let's say it, Luke. Let's say this right now. I'm going to announce something, Luke. Okay? My whole life, I loved flying. Well, you know, Luke. Probably because I didn't fly
Starting point is 01:28:54 for the first time until I was like, you know, an early teen. And it just, it felt, you know, special and magical for a while. But then when you travel a lot for work,
Starting point is 01:29:02 obviously that magic goes completely out of the way. But I was still maintaining a healthy attitude with traveling luke i'm at the point now where i am an old bitch about getting on planes and traveling on the level i am with dealing with my 43rd consecutive connecticut winter i'm just like i'm done dude all right i'm about madden cruiser level time luke just Just, you know, just drug me up. Let me lay back in the bed and tell me when we get there. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:28 The travel sucks. It's not fun. All right. That is it for me, sir. It's time for your shit. Yeah. Yeah. This is what we do every Monday.
Starting point is 01:29:39 B.C. Scourge the globe for the good and bad, ugly the highs and lows the in between of combat sports and beyond and and shout out again to our regulars the drunken swan all those guys on ig that just fill my dms uh jeremy all i mean those it's the same guys i love it thank you this is have you seen this shoot by the way the guy who got his balls kicked constantly in Bellator, our producer was right. It's Eric Prindle. Eric Prindle, yes. He was just handing out and then taking unbelievable ball kicks for like seven years.
Starting point is 01:30:14 It was something insane. Luke, real quick, you remember that couple that got married in Vegas by Elvis? They're from Georgia. And they had MK merch on, on i think while they were getting married you know which is like the ultimate tattoo on the left bicep by uh the other guy um put some respect on that guy's name damian the donk they they that was the guy on fan subs last time who who was in the airport with a dog and we kind of made fun of him for needing a uh a you know that's our guy luke he's you know all right shout out
Starting point is 01:30:45 i just wanted to shout those those fine folks out big time fans of them all right let's look at the shit luke we start in vegas ufc fight night i mentioned jamal hill won the fight and sort of won us over by by getting this close-up did you see the pic of him and his son dressing like prom night at that post-press conference that was great luke that was great his son with the shades on too that's about as cool as you're gonna get so and they ended up being on the espn desk after and uh and i forgot who was the the uh the host of that desk but they put the son on the spot and said with this 50k bonus what do you you know what do you want dad to buy you and it was it was it was you know it was wholesome look we don't get enough wholesome content on have you seen this shit no we don't this is where
Starting point is 01:31:29 drunk chicks go faced first and the elderly die all right well that was a bold fashion move by the hill family but did you see the bold fashion move on said espn desk by one dean thomas luke what are we doing here dude uh i mean it's aggressive there's parts of it that i like but luke rate that rate that jacket please i love dean did dean get hit in the head with a shovel what happened here i don't know i don't know but uh his uh stephen a smith impersonation that played during the world mma awards that was good stephen a is about as good as good as it gets. Yeah, Dean's the man, but he's dressing like... Did he lose a bet? They do a lot of bets on that set, huh?
Starting point is 01:32:10 Did he lose a bet? I'm not really sure. All right. Let's go to the action. Did you see David Onama? David Onama? Yeah, dude. Rallying to frickin' obliterate Gabriel Benitez.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Look, that's like some back alley finish right there. That is some violent shit. Didn't Benitez miss weight, too? like some back alley finish right there. That is some violent shit. Didn't Benitez miss weight too? I don't have that info in front of me. I believe he did. Dude, that's like a seven piece with the family bucket of chicken with the side of the, you get all the sides. That's the full meal right there.
Starting point is 01:32:40 That's not the three piece in the soda. That's the three piece in the soda with the dessert and the extra cookie that comes with it. it reminds me it's not quite as good or forceful but it's a little bit like what phil barone did to dave manet where you're just like levitating them against the fence because you're punching them so hard and so quickly a little bit of that's a nice finish yeah big time sprinkle a little cte on there too probably luke let's go over to some uh spitty shit done right did you see chris and helger um end the round here in his third round tko of jesse stratter by uh yeah it worked luke listen if it works do it dude got a dude just
Starting point is 01:33:21 caught he was just caught looking he was just staring at his opponents being like what the fuck luke's like that's why i vape on air because if it makes you happy it can't be that bad all right exactly if it makes you happy all right luke let's just do the full johnny walker experience that he and only he can deliver here's the prep point in which he's essentially offering lap dances this just it just drives me nuts can we not gyrate and cavort while these people are trying to do their job you imagine he does this at like chick-fil-a too he's like i'll have the number one and he just waits for it and while he's waiting he's like fucking doing this bit you know we don't have it on this specific clip but the the referee
Starting point is 01:34:00 came in afterwards to give a look and he was just like i am not i don't i do not want what you're selling he was not into that luke wow it's like it's can you imagine this guy in court it's like mr walker how do you plead i plead guilty of being sexy i plead horny as hell uh luke it started high it finished low let's take a look at at the replay of this i mean luke i thought he was faking because i've never seen this before. I think what happened was he obviously got hit really hard. I mean, that's sort of the basics, but it looked like he was coming forward
Starting point is 01:34:31 and then almost tried to catch his balance and then couldn't and then kind of like, like ballooned backwards as he tried to write his posture like this, like he tries to write it and then just falls backwards. And you know, he always does wacky shit. Remember when he injured himself falling on his face after that last knockout win?
Starting point is 01:34:52 So you never know if he's just playing games, Luke. Jamal Hill wasn't playing games, I'll tell you that much. Yeah, Jamal Hill's not playing. But I want to pay attention to something. Obviously, he had switched stances right before this. But I'm going to keep going back to it. You see all the time in boxing and kickboxing that this is not a claim that it's a good thing to do.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Everyone knows it's a good thing to do, but it's so rare in MMA. I want you to pay attention, not just to this stuff, because he stepped with this one and he parries. It's not quite a slip and then counter over the top in that direct way, but the ones who can let an opponent throw and then not change position, just get out of the way. I mean, you're changing a little bit,
Starting point is 01:35:23 but your one foot is staying in place like that. The ones who can do that in counter in MMA, you're going to see so many fights get finished by guys who can do that because it's an enormous, enormous advantage in MMA because of the asymmetry. There's so many guys who can not do that and don't know how to react.
Starting point is 01:35:42 And obviously, you get hit hard doing this too because of the little ass glove. So it's a very, very... More people are going to start doing it, so that means that the advantage and its benefits will be less pronounced over time. But right now, it's the haves and the have-nots. And that finishing punch on the ground by Hill
Starting point is 01:35:58 was short, direct, and nasty, turning his chin. So if you see the other angle, Walker's actually not fully knocked out here. Now he's knocked out. Good. Also, it should be noted something here. Walker gets countered off the jab,
Starting point is 01:36:12 but he knew that Jamal was going to lean to his own left. And he threw the right, the right actually lands for Walker. He throws that punch to intercept. So that was pretty nice. But the problem was, you know, a,
Starting point is 01:36:22 he got the worst of it and he, you know, he was in direct line for that vicious punch. They found that spot on the Death Star, and it exploded. Let's go to the next pick, Gaff, here. We can check this out quickly. We thought that was the worst of it, and then this pick made the rounds. These picks, so they must be taking these with an insane shutter speed
Starting point is 01:36:43 where they can just capture every little moment. i feel bad for these dudes when this gets posted because if you're a social media manager and you see this you have to post it but then you see it it's just like dude these guys man there's a tough way to make a living bro that's it well he was high he was low but luke good to see after the fight on instagram he posted he's high once more. It seems that this loss isn't anything that some proper 12 pizza and blonde chicks can't fix, Luke. So good to see he's back. At least he has a good attitude, and they're boozing and drinking pizza in the background,
Starting point is 01:37:19 so nothing wrong with that. Yep, something proper there, Luke. No holler head at that party, I'll tell you that much. That's right. When you have proper 12, that's what time it is right there. Luke, the 15 seconds of fame that is the Shoei, hopefully it's almost
Starting point is 01:37:35 over, but there's a couple stragglers left. Here's Dana White finally following through. We've got executives doing it now, really. It's from the official Shoei Vasa. See, this takes away the fun of it that you're selling a non-shoe. You're basically selling like a
Starting point is 01:37:51 water bottle, right? Yeah, I mean, this is not the same thing at all. Yeah, I mean, talk about over-commercialization of something reckless and raw. It's Shoei Vasa doing it to himself here, man. BC, I went to this bar when I was in Brussels once, and they had this boot, and it was all glass.
Starting point is 01:38:08 It was a glass boot, maybe size 9 or 10 or something. It was pretty big, actually. And the deal was if you plunked down 50 euros, they didn't charge you. They held on to it in case you ran out of the bar. But as long as you had the boot, they would just keep refilling it, and it would be like a... I mean, you and me could get drunk off of maybe one, at most, two boots. Would you drink out of the boot?
Starting point is 01:38:32 Yeah, heck, hell yeah. Heck yeah, that's the answer. At another country, yeah, I would go for it, Luke, all right? It was the official Delirium Tremens bar, actually. Oh, that'd be awesome, damn. Luke, we have one more shorty and it it comes from... Shorty? Shoei. And it comes from Jamal Hill. This was at the weigh-ins. This video didn't make too many
Starting point is 01:38:49 rounds, but this is Jamal pulling off his own shoe. And getting a taste of that. Is it Diet Coke? Or Body Armor? What is that? UFC-sponsored water? Yeah. Yeah. So, Luke, hopefully that's the last time we show shoeies on here or even do one, Luke.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Hey, listen, at least the rock shoe is good for something. Wow, yeah, probably drop a deuce in, Luke, eventually. You can wear them and then throw them away. You won't get any extra money, but you can do a shoeie out of them. I know what you're saying, Luke. That little wholesome content we had earlier with Jamal Hill and his son, we need more of that. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Let's go back into that window. Here's Robert Whitaker returning home from his questionable rematch loss to Israel Adesanya and having his three kids surprise him. I mean, what a moment here. I mean, that's just pretty great. That's just pretty great. I can only imagine
Starting point is 01:39:42 how great that must have made him feel. Especially after a long-ass flight like that, you know, and you got your kids waiting for you. It's pretty cool, man. I'd love to see it. It's good for him. And, you know, win or lose, he did himself proud, I thought. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Let's go to Bellator 274 from the Mohegan Sun. We mentioned Rat Garbage, Mandel Nalo. He was must-see TV again. He had some moments, nyquil nick brown just put him the hell out luke this is brutal man bro he was winning this fight i thought it was close to a 10-8 first round he was doing almost whatever he wanted to he was in control but brown just didn't let off the gas just kind of kept trying and sure enough gets through uh steps off the center line there throws the right hand goes down and he just finishes him off he didn't even wait it was man it was great
Starting point is 01:40:32 it was really great work by him can't even deny it i was going to show the uh vintage andre korshkov kick that we've now seen a million times gaff we could skip that if you want or just show it i mean people you know just show it dude it's so just show that it's so fucking brutal pow we'll talk more about this on odds and ends but you think dennis siever reached out to him i don't think so also i don't know how his german would be yes yes you i mean joe rogan's got a pretty pretty pretty fast spinning kick too yeah but even dude how many times have you seen someone shatter ribs like that? I just don't think I've ever seen that many in one go.
Starting point is 01:41:10 In one shot. Because all the punches follow up. They're all to the head. Wow, wow, wow. Are you saying the only ribs Joe Rogan slams is when he cooks them on an open fire out back, Luke, and then tweets about it? Does he cook the elk meat on the Traeger grills? That's usually what people do in this space.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Oh, Chad Mendes is a big uh doesn't he sell like his own jerky or something dude he has his own like hunting and fishing business like uh like he takes people on these expeditions and whatnot to go hunt i don't know if big game but a little bit more difficult to get game like turkey for example you're like hey chad how about we just go straight for the bbls bro all right let's go to miami we do some we can do some uh different kinds of hunting yes and tuki's here i don't know if you can hear her incessant screams of course of course uh what's the movie again the movie what's the movie uh what you're talking about the movie of her life in kanto thank you oh which we watched this morning by the way yes yes yes all right luke your guy hame munguia had a homecoming to tijuana it was on the zone it
Starting point is 01:42:11 was in a bull riding ring which the crowd atmosphere was i'm sorry did i say bull right bull fighting ring right on the edge of the ocean that the the crowd was insane and munguia got a i guess a stay busy knockout in the third round here of Demetrius Ballard. He looked great, though, Luke. It was good to see him get that type of love from the crowd. I mean, this was almost a Kell Brook, Amir Khan-type environment, Luke. I'm telling you. How good was his opponent?
Starting point is 01:42:36 Because Munguia, you know, first two rounds kind of was taking his time and then was just like, yeah, I've had enough of this shit. Doubled up on the left hook and sent this dude into the land of wind and ghosts i think it was a stay busy i don't know if it had some kind of mandatory thing if it gets him one step closer or whatever but uh yeah uh i want to see him in a monster fight it's time luke he's you know what i mean he's he's as ready as he's gonna be meaning he's still raw but dude he fights hard man let's wouldn't you love hard hard puncher good puncher wouldn't you just love to see him against triple g i mean wouldn't you just love that shit come on that's a good time to make it too because triple g is a little bit
Starting point is 01:43:14 yeah luke let's rock out with our cock out here uh check out this m nba fans simulating the air guitar at the phoenix game. Not this guy. This guy, Luke. Just blowing people, huh? I mean, you're into this hardcore metal. Is he just screaming into the Mike Cannibal Corpse style, Luke, or is he actually simulating fellatio? Your thoughts. Listen, I think this guy was like, when this is over,
Starting point is 01:43:42 I'm just going to play some air guitar and blow some dudes.'s gonna be rad and it probably was for him it was probably awesome all right all right uh speaking of uh headbanging luke let's go over to finland where they held a heavy metal knitting contest where you and your grandmother can finally have uh you know similar uh things to get excited about luke look at this'm a metal fan, but I have nothing in common with these dorks. Yeah, that's my look, too. It's more like, okay, this is sad. Yeah. Oh, look at that guy.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Look at that. Whoa, whoa. Watch bad sumo. Is that tip on tip right there? Yeah, I mean, that's just, what the fuck are we doing? I don't know. I'm kind of coming around on this lucas is uh all she made was like a ball hammock it's like listen i don't
Starting point is 01:44:31 need that i've got manscaped i don't have disgusting genitals anymore well they have trophies too this is girl look at their chair they're just jamming out at the end dude this is great yeah i can't believe that well you know? There's actually some racial diversity there, but I was going to say, I can't believe most of them are white. It seems so out of character. They won over the crowd, too, by the end of it, Luke. There's like Rocky IV. This is great.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Okay. Shout out to Finland. We never talk about them. It's BBL time, Luke. True or false? You've been to Columbia. This is how a real man handles a Latin woman. True or false? You've been to Columbia. This is how a real man handles a Latin woman. True or false
Starting point is 01:45:08 here, Luke? Damn, right? Bro, is this Rey Mysterio Jr.? You're like, I'm waiting for the concussive neck break. I kept waiting for one of them to fall and I was like, no, they're actually awesome.
Starting point is 01:45:26 No, the fan that sent this in said we can celebrate wins, too, on the show. Luke, there's a win. I don't know where this is from. Maybe Cali, which is the home of salsa. I don't know. But these fuckers can dance. Damn right. This is me trying to put my daughter to bed most nights.
Starting point is 01:45:44 It's about as successful in terms of uh inducing slumber yeah yeah indeed uh luke let's go to the subway speaking of bbls i don't know how this guy stole your mask but he's not wearing it out in public luke it says uh latin women are the best luke okay i don't know where he got this mic and he's obviously got his left hand in our you know kind of place right now but this is listen not all heroes wear capes bc sometimes they wear masks all right back to uh not honestly honestly if f, if Fauci and the CDC had come out with one of these things, I don't think masking would ever have been a controversy in this country.
Starting point is 01:46:30 They'd just be like, listen, we got these masks. They say, well, Latin women are the best. We need you to wear them. And we're like, okay, that sounds right. Let's go over to Prime MMA 1, a Polish promotion, Luke. Check out this late stoppage in this all-female battle. Your thoughts, Luke? promotion luke check out this late stoppage in this all-female battle your thoughts luke i mean once they turn their head shouldn't the fight be over
Starting point is 01:46:53 i mean there's a lot of things i want to say um oh now it looks more normal a man has joined is this where they get undressed on TV um I don't know you're like I've actually seen this adult film before it's very violent yeah it started out just like this but it went a very different direction all right Luke uh they usually say say Fridays on MK or for the art because BC's on the mic. But Mondays on MK, we show some art from time to time. Here's artist Boo Boo Design. He has paint on his boxing gloves here, Luke. This is, wow.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Your thoughts as this comes together. Oh, and he does Ali in the pool upside down. Indeed. As this comes together. Oh, and he does Ali in the pool upside down. Indeed. I like he went from like jabbing to now like. But look at the finished product, dude. That's insane. Yeah, he's ridiculously talented.
Starting point is 01:47:59 That's insane. Shout out to boo boo design. Yes, not boo boo wild thing. Luke, that's although MMA related. That's another story also not uh boo-boo andre that's a different guy as as well as well all right luke it's time for hot dogs to the face does this um should this video make my liver cower in fear or make me aroused with Luke, your thoughts. Man, how did this one clear the producer? Like, we did show a death that time in that circus incident, but maybe this is too far. This is...
Starting point is 01:48:34 Geez, now I'm the horny one. What is going on here? This is terrible for me. This is not professional. Okay. All right, back to real sports, Luke. Let's go to Russia from boxing over the weekend. Jorge Linares, the veteran, Luke, signed with a Russian promotion,
Starting point is 01:48:51 made his Russian debut, and Zaur Abdullaev in the 12th round sent Linares packing via KO12, Luke. Tough turn of events. Yeah, I was hoping for Linares to have a better run here, candidly, but it might be... He's got a lot of damage, dude. He's got a lot of damage. The thing is, he's had a few of these throughout his career.
Starting point is 01:49:14 These sort of surprising knockout losses where you're like, oh, he might be done, and then he just comes back, Luke. But yeah, this looked bad. This did not. Yeah, he just looked... He looked weary. He looked weary in this one that's the one that gives me a little bit of concern but you're right he has certainly shown a propensity for rebound and those are those are some hard-ass shots i think they're trying to put abdul-ayev against devin haney next although haney already beat him so you know it's typical
Starting point is 01:49:41 bro these boxing referees they can't stand wearing the latex gloves huh they hate that they want to get their hands all in that blood sweat mucus yeah yeah indeed indeed uh luke there's a promotion called a a c a y e in europe this was acai 24 um it brought a few different highlights including kasan dadalov celebrating by punching the camera, Luke. Yeah, a little, hey, let's Superman punch the cameraman whose camera probably costs more than your purse. I've heard of punching the clown in celebration when you're alone in the locker room afterwards, Luke, but this is a little different. A little old. This is not flogging the dolphin.
Starting point is 01:50:19 That's not what this is. Indeed. Luke, on the same card, it was good to see that the pile driver has made its way back into russian mma yeah it's actually expressly illegal oh that's more of a that's more of a tilt that's a scorpion pile driver i think luke it's more of a tilt uh than any they're like can we get a little bit a little bit wow that's what my back feels like, Luke. I'll tell you that much. But you didn't do it from this.
Starting point is 01:50:50 You just did it from trying to not be gross. Indeed, indeed. Luke, your PNMMA, I mean, it just hits different on this show. Did you check out this argument cage side somewhere in Europe that turned into some hands, dude? Did you see this? Yeah, dude, this is slick. So you notice he's got his left hand doing the talking and the one that's closest to his face,
Starting point is 01:51:08 but he lines up Southpaw right here and then just lets it go with the left first, the one he's hiding. See that? Kind of clever if you actually pay attention to this. Indeed. I don't know the men involved in this, Luke. I don't know if this is a Leon Edwards-Masvidal situation, but it's not the last one we have.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Let's go to some other MMA weigh-in talk show. I don't really know what's going on here, Luke, but there's violence, so we'll check it out. Definitely two guys who read a lot of books. There's probably a mom joke in there and oh boy he put he put uh run dmc on queer street there luke he's still got that look in his face like i'm sorry i'm still everyone thinks i'm still tough i'm still tough right i'm everyone thinks i'm still tough. I'm still tough, right? Everyone thinks I'm still tough. Let me see it one more time. Hang on. Let's see here.
Starting point is 01:52:06 They exchange hands. Pulls off. You pull a guy in, Luke. You better be ready for that smoke. You're going to get a smack or a kiss, buddy. Better be ready. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Okay. Let's go to the Winter Olympics. I guess you could say worst pain of your life mr shab luke did you see this real headline from the new york post this is legit it's unlike many news outlets finland skier uh suffers frozen penis during uh yeah wow okay did you see this uh i know you don't watch the game but it did make some headlines for it did you see this u.s men's game against honduras in minnesota no soccer it was soccer i know you don't care about this but here's the deal these motherfuckers and it
Starting point is 01:52:57 could be retaliation for like games being in honduras when it's like hot as balls but even then it's not the same they had this game it was either like saint paul minnesota or someplace cold as fuck it was minus one when the game started two of the honduran players had to go to the hospital at halftime for hyperthermia hypothermia excuse me yeah so this finnish skier getting his dick frozen i'm like you dumb asses keep doing fuck dude when it starts to snow maybe call off the sports i realize football and some other ones you can make an exception for here or there if it's fucking below you know 12 degrees or what call it a day will you please call it a day yeah please thank you that's a good it's a good also fuck your dick finnish guy all right hey luke uh con brooke was a pretty good fight on saturday inside the arena there
Starting point is 01:53:50 in manchester england i'm not sure it was the best fight of the night though check out the crowd in this guy in the blue jacket currently on the ground watch this play out bro they get busy in sheffield huh manchester dude it was manchester I thought this was, I thought, oh, no, excuse me, excuse me. The fight with Brooke and Spence was in Sheffield. I apologize, yes. Yeah, dude, Manchester gets busy, too. Dude, this guy in the blue jacket just won't go down. He won't stay down, you know?
Starting point is 01:54:19 Yeah, he's handing out L's here. Southpaw changes stances. Look at that. He might have a future, yeah. We might have to sign yeah we gotta we might have to sign this guy up interesting crowd fights although jose you would agree crowd fights are the best when they take place at different heights so like one person is at one level another person is like two or three levels up and then they're having to fight in the middle that's the best
Starting point is 01:54:38 yeah yeah you get the high ground luke obi-wan style though you're gonna you're gonna get that w uh luke everybody sends me in you know they just want you to rate that tat luke dustin poirier edition your thoughts on this fans uh yeah he didn't get that did he no no this is a fan the fan this is a style called uh american traditional and um it's a bit of a mess to tell you candidly um good abs though the abs are you know dustin and the fact that they got poirier's body is like kind of his torso is kind of squarish a little bit you know um it's dude it's gonna be a hard tattoo to do because you have to do tattoos on a tattoo obviously you know or he's got him on his arms but the gloves are a mess they're not you know they both look different his face is kind of weird the shading in the back it's like super saturated i don't like the diamond in the crotch either look it's super saturated arm to elbow or i should say elbow to torso but then around the head there's actually light, which you would want to bring it out,
Starting point is 01:55:45 but it still looks kind of weird because it's uneven in that way. It's not great. It's not great. No, no, the diamond in the crotch is, it's just, I'm unsettled looking at it, Luke. Finally, Luke, let's, I'll be honest. This has been me at many, many a party from college, really, really through adulthood, Luke. Probably until a few months ago.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Look at this guy in the background of this party just going after it. This is me after I've told everyone I've lost a lot of weight. I went to this college graduation party one time, Luke. And like nobody showed up because the weather was really bad, so they had all this extra food. I ate a full tray of lasagna over a four-hour period. People think going to a nice restaurant is peak eating.
Starting point is 01:56:41 When have you ever felt better after eating than when you've you know launched chef boyardee into your mouth three sheets to the wind from being drunk that is peak fucking eating right there and like you're not you're making love to the food to be fair i mean it's a you know you there's a consummation going on i mean look at this guy look get that guy a cigarette also i should point out something like First of all, I noticed he was taking huge mouthfuls here. I mean, look at this fucking ape, right?
Starting point is 01:57:10 This guy is definitely a primate, number one. And half of it's falling back in. That means he definitely likes to share, which is nice. I don't know. This is relatable, Luke. I know you can I know he deserves your insults, but this is relatable. Oh, it's super relatable. I mean, I would eat worse than this, but watch when he opens up and he turns over here. at the size of this creep's mouth ah he's like a whale
Starting point is 01:57:30 shark where all of it just gets fucking sucked in when he opens his mouth you know yeah oh yeah luke remember back then when you were that age you could like fall asleep on a beanbag or something in some college apartment that you don't even know whose it is and how you got there and then you just pop right back up the next morning and go on with your life luke but you know no back pain at all right that was yeah and now you sneeze when you're on the shitter and you have to go get an mri yeah i mean look you slept on like a pull like a a chair before i mean you know like i'm talking like a metal chair sleep on actual um uh armory equipment like they would when i was on the gun line in the marine corps they would
Starting point is 01:58:11 like store it in the back of these uh five tons i would just hop on the back of the five ton and then just sleep on top of it and now it's like if i have a crick in my neck from a two-hour flight i wake up paralyzed from the neck down and i have to get, you know, is there a doctor on the flight? We've got a pussy in the front here. I mean, I'm going to be honest with you, Luke. I laid in bed for probably about 12 hours yesterday. Really just asking myself, like, I'm physically unable to get to the bath. You know, I'm better now. But yesterday was like, you know, I literally could not crawl there right now.
Starting point is 01:58:48 I'm telling you, I'm telling you. I just, i just i guarantee this what the doctor's gonna tell you your core is weak and you just got to get strong that's it that's all there is to and you shouldn't lay around too much you kind of kind of lean into the movement more movement warms it up and gives you what you need so don't rest too too much do you think i've aged from all of these uh injuries sorry do you think do you i think you have aids yes i think you have aids no aged age do you think i've aged from this experience yes dude going to travel traveling as much as you do if you're not fucking dead lifting in your garage in the in-between is gonna this is gonna this is what you're gonna get this is what you're gonna get all right all right hey, next showbox trip in March, Luke.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Deadwood, South Dakota. Yeah. Yeah, baby. BC's coming. Do you think we have any MK fans in South Dakota? Why is there a place in South Dakota named after your pathetic erections? I wish I could argue against that, Luke, but've had the you know the yeah yeah so yeah so much uh i'm just so much for the libido luke yeah that's great is that it is that all your shit
Starting point is 01:59:53 um yeah you know my idea though of of of you're buying that rest we cannot hear you i cannot okay now now you can hear me my idea of buying that that restaurant and employing down on their luck former mma fighters as as waitresses and then having a ring in there just in case they need to settle their you know because every restaurant you work at our bar there's backroom differences you know what i mean and having them potentially you, fight in the bar for extra cash and me being like the Patrick Swayze of this organization, is that morally questionable or is that providing a second act for these fighters? I would say having a fight club at your bar is probably going to get you sent to jail. Probably.
Starting point is 02:00:44 Well, like they'd sign waivers and stuff luke oh illegal documents that hold no binding yeah yeah yeah all right all right sorry luke uh odds and ends time yes odds and ends what do you got for me bc uh look on that bellator undercard and we didn't even mention brennan ward and i want to give him that shout out luke for that comeback from from really extreme drug use I mean he was he was living the life he hasn't fought since 2017 so on the Bellator card on Saturday Brennan Ward got bumped up to the main card congratulations on a successful comeback he got the victory Luke it wasn't against a world beater and you know afterwards he's saying look
Starting point is 02:01:19 you know it's the same thing as it was before I'm going to come in there for the knockout or get knocked out trying so put me in there against you, somebody big. I hope he gets his chance to end his career on his own terms. He's still still a wild man, Luke, and he's fun to watch. But on a personal note, great to see him back. But Aviv Gozali was a guy I was circling on the calendar to see him on the prelims. Six and oh, coming in with six first round submission wins usually in the spectacular fashion but Luke he ran into a 38 year old Bobby King from Hawaii who just wouldn't wouldn't give in wouldn't you know just would not would not stop and shockingly Gozali gassed himself out so hardcore in surviving a first round that was round of the year potential just
Starting point is 02:02:05 crazy that they stopped the fight at the start of round two out of just he was done look he was literally done that's a shocking way to go down because he had moments in this first round gozali he took some big strikes he got it to the ground he nearly got a submission but he he used up the whole tank luke in that five minutes and uh i guess that's why a fight like this was on the prelims because Gozali's going to have to learn from this and bounce back. But, man, as far as implosions go, that was shocking. Well, you're hardly telling the full story. So, first of all, King turned in a 10-8 round.
Starting point is 02:02:40 I mean, that was as clear a 10-8 as it gets. In fact, I thought he was going to stop him a couple of times. So it gets to the in-between with the was going to stop him a couple of times. So it gets to the in-between with the first and the second. You see what's happening here on the screen. This is what the – I wasn't in the ring, so I can only say what the broadcast booth was telling us. What they were telling us was that Aviv Gozali, who, of course, is from Israel,
Starting point is 02:03:01 was asking for a Hebrew translator, which if you don't speak English, you are entitled to get one. The problem is the broadcast booth also says he speaks English, and I had people DM me saying they've done interviews with him in English. So what the broadcast booth said was, you know, hey, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Basically, they said he was trying to get extra time, but I guess the doctor kind of figured out between then and that that, you know, this dude was just not ready to go back out there,
Starting point is 02:03:20 and they waived it, which was a good call. Here was my thing. Forget all the weird ending. The dude is 21 21 this was a bad loss and he imploded no doubt about it he's got a lot of work to do but at being 21 in bellator they can give him the kind of matchmaking where it'd be extremely foolish to just be like oh he's no good well he needs he has a lot of work to do but he can come back the thing that's weird was that he was like like, or however he said it to the referee, that he needed a Hebrew translator.
Starting point is 02:03:48 Boy, that's the old, that's the Chael Sonnen school they're fighting. You know what I'm saying? We've seen Yoel Romero get the edge in in certain spots. We saw Diego Corrales spitting out the mouthpiece against Castillo. He lost a point, but it bought him extra time. It's a,
Starting point is 02:04:07 it's a survival move, but you know, man, that was a wild fight. Luke shout to Bobby King, you know, who's been a, you know,
Starting point is 02:04:13 kind of a journeyman. And that's a big win for him. And, you know, Gozali, he did, he tried to fight his way out of it, man.
Starting point is 02:04:19 And that's what used up all the energy. I mean, he was, he was, he's doesn't have an evolved striking game, but, but, you know, he sat down and tried he doesn't have an evolved striking game but but you know he sat down and tried but uh man uh bellator i'll tell you what luke they tend to have two or
Starting point is 02:04:31 three of these on the prelim cards each time where you're like i just gotta i gotta see what happens you know they they develop characters pretty well okay it's the it's as close as you can get it's not the same but it's the as close as you can get to the wildness of the regional scene. Yeah. You know what I mean? Where you're just like, I can't believe that just fucking happened. You get a lot of that on there. For me, I will stick with the Bellator card.
Starting point is 02:04:57 We had kind of telegraphed it. Let's talk about it now very quickly. So Koreshkov wins against Chance Rencounter. Rencounter went 2-2 in UFC, by the way. So obviously a guy who's got some decent experience. He'd been off for, I think, some time, but here he is back. He takes this spinning back kick to the ribs, which he didn't take flush on. It kind of hit underneath the armpit there, almost to the back.
Starting point is 02:05:18 It ended up, and we have pictures of it. There's the picture of the strike landing. Then the manager for Chance Rencounter, brian butler gets on instagram and you can look here and you can see it broke five of his ribs that one strike and punctured his lung he had to go into surgery to get all of that repaired i've said it before i'll say it again that is you see you see injuries in combat sports you see bad injuries in combat sports you see see bad injuries in combat sports, you see injuries that look bad that maybe aren't, like ones that bleed, but maybe aren't necessarily all that bad.
Starting point is 02:05:50 And every once in a while, you see like, this is borderline, if not outright, catastrophic injury. It's not catastrophic in the sense of, you know, his health and safety I think will be fine, but in terms of what could happen if it went untreated, it would be extremely damaging. But you see, that's a bad bad bad injury yeah that is that damn so early in the fight too you know chance didn't really get a chance to uh
Starting point is 02:06:13 pun not intended there to uh you know show what he could do and you know yeah it's got like a 16 and 4 record or something coming in i mean you know the guy the guy's fought at a fairly high level but damn it's perfect shot luke it's the it's the damn perfect shot all right that's what it is i mean it's like it's like when cyborg took that knee to the face from michael page it's like you know we've seen guys take flush knees like that never seen a guy's forehead just cave in though okay you know what i mean sometimes it's it damn man you know it's crazy it's crazy all right so that is it for us the perfect show right there morning combat thumbs up if you're watching on youtube hit subscribe if you're watching on youtube leave us a nice review if you're listening on spotify uh youtube podcast or whatever the fuck it is these days uh you can email us wednesdays
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Starting point is 02:07:33 Uh, we're, we're ever evolving. In fact, some of the ideas we've got a little, little sneak peek at her, you know, this guy, this, this guy, this guy, RJ, right? I mean, again, you know, that's why we make ridiculous jokes on there because the guy's been pitching a perfect game. And maybe he's juicing. You know what I'm saying? Maybe he's doctoring the ball.
Starting point is 02:07:54 I don't know. I think he is on performance-enhancing drugs because otherwise I couldn't explain how good of a job he's doing. Yeah. Luke, it's President's Day, this me mentioning this would make sense. Do you remember the the full back brace from neck to stern to waist that JFK wore when he got shot by the CIA or the Cubans or I don't know, Oliver Stone, whoever, whoever pulled the trigger, Luke? And they say it prevented him from being able to fall after the first shot that maybe would have saved his life and kept him there in range to get you know zaprudered um do you think a back brace like that on me would allow me to go to jersey city this week you know and function you do not need a back brace you need a little bit of testicles baby please and what you have to realize is dude
Starting point is 02:08:43 i'm telling you it sounds counterintuitive talk to your doctor he'll give you the proper parameters but for what you have almost certainly you have to lean into active recovery if you sit around it will take longer to feel better you got to move into it and dude you gotta do some fucking deadlifts your core is weak your core how about yoga luke yoga's good too yoga's good too yoga's great yoga's great yoga's great um all right whatever works for you bc let me know how what the doctor says aside from being you being pathetic and old uh curious to hear that we are back in studio for the rest of the shows this week so big thanks to malcolm showtime cbs sports uh thanks to you watching and thanks to my partner in crime, BC,
Starting point is 02:09:26 who I will see in about 48 hours or so. All right? Until then, thumbs up. See you all next time. May all your gains be loyal. We're out.

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