MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC: Santos vs. Teixeira Recap | Izzy vs. Blachowicz | Haney vs. Gamboa | Ep. 80

Episode Date: November 9, 2020

On Episode 80 of MK, Luke and Brian recap this weekends combat sports events including Glover Teixeira's impressive win over Thiago Santos. Should Teixeira get a title shot and if he does what happens... to Adesanya vs. Blachoowicz. Plus Devin Haney earns a decision win over Yuriorkis Gamboa. Where does Haney go next? --------------------------------- 'Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit: store.sho.com   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat  To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Reveille, Reveille, Donks! Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. We'll be right back. as I do every single week, Luke, from this chair. But I don't want to talk about myself anymore.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I'm almost ready to get ready. Look, this may be the best weekend for over 40 males since the launch of Viagra. What a time to be old and alive in an MMA cage, right? It certainly is. The old dudes are finding ways, maybe through the help of pharmaceuticals, to get things done. First things first on the video, give it a thumbs up if you're there. Hit that subscribe button.
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Starting point is 00:02:50 It's a nice place, but not for Showtime merch. I'll just leave it at that. Okay. Well, we have a lot to get to, BC, so let's get to the first of five topics. We start, as Brian indicated, with the old man. They're running the world these days. Beyonce said girls run the world. I'm not so sure, BC, because 41-year-old Glover Teixeira, I mean, I'm 41, BC, and I turned
Starting point is 00:03:14 my ankle walking my dogs at Rock Creek Park yesterday, and I had to hobble back to my SUV, my family SUV with the baby seat in it, on my knees like a leper, you know, trying to atone for some kind of sins, you know, that has caused God to curse me. It was an unbelievably awful sight. Well, it wasn't for Glover Teixeira. Now, he had some rough seas with Tiago Santos, but he gets the win. Third round rear naked choke. I think five, six fight win streak at this point unbelievable okay let's start here bc should glover to share uh almost skip the line ahead of israel out of sonja and get the 205 pound title shot well luke here's the deal it wouldn't actually be skipping the line yes he deserves a damn title shot right now i understand uh dana white in the moment wanting
Starting point is 00:04:06 to take advantage of all things israel out of sonja he does look like a future all-time great he does look like your next truly crossover star but hey dana you can get to the john jones fight directly without passing go you may not need to go the yon blow it's 205 pound title route right now uh you know the the stars may have aligned here to go the Jan Blahowicz 205-pound title route right now. You know, the stars may have aligned here to open the door back up for Glover Teixeira, who has no business, Luke, at 41, remaining this good, winning five in a row, beating a, you know, coming off a serious injury, certainly in Tiago Santos. But Maheta came there to bang Luke and I'm certainly not referencing the uh whatever happened in the hotel afterwards with his with his lovely UFC girlfriend but uh you know you
Starting point is 00:04:50 literally just referenced it by not referencing it but okay shouts to the hammer on his chest just the same look Maheta coming off of those the serious leg injuries he came to win that fight he came to do it by knockout he had two major moments especially right off the opening minute where you're like he's gonna you know good run for Glover but but you know that's it no Glover Teixeira is just a tough ass two dollars stake or whatever Stone Cold Steve Austin would use for a comparison right there Luke I think he's certainly benefiting from what we're starting to hear those younger active names that is Jim and Danbury Connecticut having Alex Pereira right the glory champ champ the guy who solved Adesanya back in the day having guys like that pushing him here's an older fella who's just found a way to stay relevant stay young and
Starting point is 00:05:36 Luke he's doing it with technique and wisdom certainly right and adding things to his plate and rounding out his game but Glover Teixeira above it all is tough as balls and Luke this was a fun-ass fight with a lot at stake and I think they both I mean they both left it in the cage they both came there to win that both look like they could be stopped at any point and for Glover to withstand two serious storms in round one and three and sort of dominate the middle portion on the ground in round two, and be able to go from looking like he's going to be out to flipping the tables and get that finish.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Dana said it himself afterwards. Dana said it's going to be hard to stop him from getting that title shot. I really believe, Luke, that it was a good idea to maybe move Adesanya up right now. But everyone wants the Jon Jones fight. Do not pass go. I mean, go right to it, brother, okay? Glover deserves this.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And Luke, Glover, to share Jan Blahowicz would be a badass fight. Yeah, it's a good problem to have if you're Dana because no matter what you pick, you're going to please somebody and something's going to make you happy. You either go with Adesanya versus Blahowicz, and you get your champ-champ fight, or at least someone who could become a champ-champ if he wins, and set up a Jon Jones fight, and blah, blah, blah. We've already been over that a million times.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Or you can give Glevitashera something that he's kind of earned. Not kind of earned. Earned. Outright earned. And then you'd be doing the right thing by the number one contender. He is, at a bare minimum, your clear, unequivocal number one contender. And this will be a theme in this topic and even the next one, or the one we get to Andrei Orlovsky.
Starting point is 00:07:11 You know, we talk a lot about Alistair Overeem. How did he manage to have such career longevity? And what he figured out was, if you want to stay in the game, you can't keep fighting the way you did when you were in your 20s and early 30s. You've got to really make some adaptations. And Glover Teixeira has always been really well-rounded, but I don't know that he was using it. In fact, if you look at his other UFC win streak, where he put three or more wins together, it was over OSP, Patrick Cummings, and Rashad Evans. He won two of those with punches. Now, he did have the win over St. Peru with the submission, but you look at his last five fights,
Starting point is 00:07:44 which is the win streak he's on here. Karl Roberson, arm triangle, Ayankute Laba, rear naked choke, Krilov was a split decision win, and he had a ground and pound over Anthony Smith, but that was on the ground, and he was hunting that submission, Smith just has very good defense, and then here again, another submission, it's the most submission friendly win streak of his entire career, including on the regional scene. And what he figured out was he can strike with these guys. It's not that he can't, but at 41, you probably can't take punishment the same way, but you are still pretty strong. You're in a small cage in certain circumstances. You have a fantastic ground game. I mean, Glover Teixeira isn't just good at
Starting point is 00:08:20 wrestling. He is, but he has great passing, he has phenomenal balance on top, he has dedicated ground and pound, he's got good energy output. I mean, it just makes all the sense in the world. And we've seen in MMA recently, it's going heavily towards striking and people are getting very good on the defensive end of things, but they don't really have a well-rounded game. And if they get tired at all, they're just not the same kind of competitor anymore, either off their back or whatever the case may be. And Teixeira has figured that out. You credit to Glover Teixeira at 41 years of age,
Starting point is 00:08:52 actually a little bit before this because the win streak goes back to 2019, so let's just say 40-ish, realizing I've got to do things differently, changing it up, and look at the results right here. Getting phenomenal wins over clear top competitors, earning a title shot. You can't take it from them.
Starting point is 00:09:09 They still might, but they shouldn't. I just have so many nice things to say about a guy. I mean, how many people get title shots in their mid-30s and then five, six years later? He fought Jon Jones in what, 2013? 2013 when was that i'm trying to figure that out yeah 2014 six years later bc six years later he's back to getting to number one contender status almost unheard of and you know i used to think of him as really just a slugger a headhunter a tough guy with good takedown defense but a guy guy who, if, you know, if he didn't catch John Jones with the big one at the super elite level, he wasn't going to get over the top. So
Starting point is 00:09:49 Luke to really round out that skillset. And I, you know, I don't want to just say it as simply as I did earlier, it's tough as balls, but think about this, Luke, he had a, a still looking prime Mahetta. It's Iago Santos who came in there to knock him the hell out and really put some punches together in such a fluid fashion. It's really Glover's ability, not just to endure that at this age, which says a lot for his chin, this toughness, but Luke, to be calm in that storm. So many guys, right? They either try to counter big in those moments to try to get back in the fight and get themselves
Starting point is 00:10:24 stopped or whatever. try to counter big in those moments uh to try to get back in the fight and get themselves stopped or whatever i mean he stayed so calm to be able to defend defend defend and then wait and in both times when he flipped the tables on majeta he got into full mount i mean this was really a masterful performance top to bottom luke it's not like again you know he caught him with one punch you're like well the power's still there i'm I don't really believe what I'm seeing right now. I cannot believe he is not only still this good, Luke, but the key part is I think he's a better fighter now than he was when he was much more reliant on his power
Starting point is 00:10:55 some six years ago when he made that first run of the title. Well, one small note here, if you actually look at his losses in the UFC, none of those folks are there anymore. So these are the only losses he has in a long and decorated campaign at 205 pounds John Jones go to heavyweight Phil Davis Bellator Anthony Johnson is back but not really relevant at the moment right uh Gustafson at heavyweight you know not not really competing a lot heavyweight anymore Corey Anderson Bellator so like all of the roadblocks that were there before,
Starting point is 00:11:25 and I'm not saying he couldn't beat Gustafson with a rematch, or who knows, Corey Anderson's his last loss, so it's hard to know exactly about that one, but he could maybe get a couple of these back, but they're not there anymore. And so now you have the people who beat you aren't really there anymore, we'll see about Rumble, and you've decided to like leverage your strengths
Starting point is 00:11:41 when a sport's going this way, bringing back that old black belt. Bringing back that wrestling and that heavy ground and pound. You know, and for folks who may not realize, there's a lot of times he was like passing on Tiago Santos to side or to mount. And Tiago Santos did a pretty good job of recapturing half guard. But when you're as big as Tiago Santos and you have to leverage your hips and like roll over that way. And if gravity feels like it's pulling on the back of you you can't even raise your arms up it's so heavy it's just an exhausting process so yeah
Starting point is 00:12:10 like did he finish him off in the second round got pretty close but not enough time but by the third round even though he got hit once it hit the ground bc i mean it was over fast you just can't deal with it i mean it's a rear naked choke It's not like it's some novel, you know, Vaughn flute player, Jethro Tull choke. But the fact that he had his elbows on Mojete's back of his shoulder so that when he did deliver the rear naked, that was sort of the least amount of leverage
Starting point is 00:12:35 I've ever seen somebody have to try to get out of it, right? I mean, Mojete was toast the second that thing was in. He was completely pinned down in his chest. Just the using the weight balance and the technique there. I mean, the old guy, the old guy's got it, man. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And both, and both times, I believe he fired it with the right hand on the blind side. He had the hand working this way in front of my head to his face. And then this one would snake past it when he didn't have a chance to look so he could snatch it up and lock it in pretty quickly. He just, dude, Glover's like a legit black belt. I mean, how many guys at 205 pounds, some have good ground games. I mean, what was Jon Jones, a white or a blue belt when he submitted Vitor Belfort? The belt itself doesn't necessarily signify how good you are,
Starting point is 00:13:15 but like Glover has like real deal ground skills, especially for MMA when he's got that heavy ground and pound, because he's a good striker too. Man, he's a force to be reckoned with. So BC, let's figure this out. If they give the title shot to Adesanya, what does Glover do here? I mean, it's like, what do you reward him with?
Starting point is 00:13:37 A returning Anthony Rubble Johnson and do a legit number one contender fight? I mean, that's a hell of a reward right there. I don't know, Luke. And I wanted to get your take on if you are Dana White and company, and you're sitting down in that war room with the chalkboards and all the rankings all around and, and, you know, and you're next door to his office, which has that weird machine gun. Is it art? Are we are, is our art with the drugs in it and the condoms and all the weirds.
Starting point is 00:14:03 What the hell is Dana doing? And like that naked photo there and robbie barstool in the corner and some like red hot chili peppers uh bases fly signed by flea it's like can we make fights here bro uh let's say it's time to make fights what is the advantage right now in keeping out of sanya and bloho it's together tell me luke because like if it, because if it's to make Izzy, to give Izzy the chance to have his star not double, but go huge by becoming a champ champ, that's one thing. But tell me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Even a non-title fight against Jon Jones could double and triple and quadruple the star power. It could, but it's just like, I just, you know, are they going to put it on there with just Izzy's belt as like some kind of background noise at 205 pounds? Maybe. I mean, the fight against Jones makes more sense from a, how do you make every piece of the puzzle work? What's best for the division? What's best for these two, blah, blah, blah. It makes much more sense.
Starting point is 00:15:01 But when you think about stakes and you think about history, it's you beat john for what just to beat john i mean we both know that actually is the only thing that really matters the title is not the thing that does but i don't know i just don't see ufc going the way of no accoutrement to this belt we're just gonna or this this fight we're just gonna do it beltless well i think it gives them an out from this standpoint if john jones beats izzy in a 205 fight for no title it's a super fight you just go okay he tried to dare to be great he lost hey go back down to middleweight and fight whitaker right whereas if you do it for the belt and he loses maybe there's a little bit more can izzy be a legit 205 or in there you know i don't know maybe maybe it's all you know here's what i think they're gonna do they might-er in there? I don't know. Maybe it's all...
Starting point is 00:15:45 Here's what I think they're going to do. They might make... I don't think it's official. They were talking about Prochocka, I think, versus Rakic, which is a hell of a fight. But they may switch things up, and what they may do is give Glover a fight against somebody next.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I'm not sure who. Maybe Rakic. And make it for an interim belt. I think that's what they may do, and then just keep Izzy up there. That way, Glover gets a chance to fight for some hardware, whatever the value in that, but there's something to be said for it, I suppose. Okay, topic number two. Here's another old dude out here getting it done. He had nearly 20 losses, but he's got 30 wins just the same. Andrei Arlovsky wins in the
Starting point is 00:16:21 co-main event over Tanner Bosser. And the funny part about him is you can look at a bunch of his recent losses and be like, you know what? If the judges saw that just a little bit differently, he could have won all of those BCs. So what can we say about the career of Andre Arlovsky, Brian Campbell, given that he keeps winning and does so over rising prospects and contenders? In this particular case, Tanner Bosser on Saturday. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I want to do this in a matter that still praises Arlovsky because that's my goal here luke okay this was very impressive at his age considering how many times we've written him off where again i wrote him off i said man andre alovsky's in the damn co-main event 2020 what are we doing here i've said that so many times luke okay so so i'll take the L on that but there is a big difference comparing old guys to what uh to what Glover did on Saturday night you know beating a legit title contender number one guy and maybe you know getting a title shot and Arlovsky staying relevant as a tough gatekeeping out I don't want to take anything away from his longevity here. He's had like 34 UFC fights. He's four away, four wins away from breaking the UFC wins record. Luke, when he was
Starting point is 00:17:30 world champion, it was like four generations ago in terms of the evolution of UFC. So I want to give him that credit. But I think this win was a little bit more of a referendum that Tanner Bozer is a fun fighter with potential for the future, but doesn't have it yet from a technical level. Because what Arlovsky was able to do was just slow down this fight, make Tanner have to think, not give him too many clean targets, and then land effective hard strikes to dissuade him. Again, I'm not saying that's easy for a guy that we've written off who we think have chin issues, who's old, but Arlovsky is successfully plateauing at a level that he's been at for a long time I think the key part of this is that he's just staying at that
Starting point is 00:18:12 level meaning if you're elite you're gonna knock Arlovsky out if you're pretty damn good you're gonna be in a close fight that's gonna go the scorecards and you're gonna have to beat him to win but if you are not he can surprise you like this and I'm gonna to have to beat him to win. But if you are not, he can surprise you like this. And I'm going to give respect to that. But for me, this fight was more about who Tanner Bozer isn't than who Orlovsky still is. It is impressive. He never stopped trying to get better. He believes in himself. There's a lot of good stuff going here for Orlovsky to be able to bounce back from some pretty damn, you know damn demonstrative knockout losses and, like you said, almost upset other people and be in it. He's always in it, Luke, but I don't think he's got a ceiling to go over.
Starting point is 00:18:52 So I want to give him that love and respect, but this was us realizing that Tanner Bozer, you can do that against a certain level of guy, but when you step up to where guys have the technique and the wisdom and the game plan, he wasn't on that level in this one. I mean, I don't disagree with too much of that. I just feel like for me, there's one guy I've been wrong about more than anyone, and it's Andre.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I thought he was donezo when he was fighting a World Series of Fighting and Anthony Rumble Johnson was dislodging his teeth, and I was like, oh, he's totally done. I even said so publicly. Really dislodging his teeth? That was a gross fight between two guys who didn't have full-round stamina. Be honest, Luke. That was a gross fight between two guys who didn't have full round stamina. Be honest, Luke. That was gross.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yeah, I mean, I'm not, listen, I'm not, how, you know, representative that was of them or the organization or the time. I mean, there's lots of things you could look at. I'm just pointing out this. You're right. I'm not suggesting to you that Arlovsky is the next heavyweight title contender. I don't think that that is really accurate. In fact, while he does have three wins in his last four fights,
Starting point is 00:19:45 the one loss he had was a very quick one to Jairzinho Rosenstreich. I mean, when he steps up against those guys or the Francis's or whoever, the show closes pretty quickly. However, it would not be fair to Arlovsky to not argue something that we kind of just argued for Glover Teixeira, which is Glover has been able to reinvent himself or at least retool his skill set and maintain number one contender status, maybe even, who knows, become champion. I don't think that's in the cards for Andre.
Starting point is 00:20:13 But to be this senior in his career and to realize if I slow the fight down and I take my time with everything, I can compete against most of these guys. That is true. He used to have a bit more, I mean, not that he was reckless, but he had a bit more of a sort of an open exchanging style. He has dialed that back and it makes him a little bit, actually a lot less exciting, but it makes him a lot harder to beat. You can see these young guys who are still in that stage of their career. They encounter this old wily vet like Arlovsky, and they don't really know how to handle it, and he often ends up beating them. The Felipe Lins fight was like that. The
Starting point is 00:20:49 Tanner Balser fight, just like that. I mean, it was a close fight too. You could have called it maybe for Tanner, but I'm just pointing out, like, when a guy has this kind of longevity and that many setbacks and finds just the right nook and cranny to sort of settle into to make him competitive and deserve a spot on the roster and maybe even main card placements and you know even more than that depending on how things go you should acknowledge it and for somebody like me who's been wrong and thought he was done year literally years ago it is kind of amazing to see I mean the lesson for me and Arlovsky is you got to be very careful when you say somebody is
Starting point is 00:21:26 done or should be done because you bury them too quickly and it will come back to bite you and no one has come back to show me how more wrong i was than this particular fighter so i find a lot of importance in how uh careful he fights it's not it's not appointment viewing per se but it is very very crafty when he's pulling off and And I don't see it ending, frankly, BC anytime soon. But against the B-level and down heavyweights, I mean, his defense, comparative to what they have, his technique, his game planning, he's been able to up those. The problem is, Luke, that he was elite at a certain point at such an early time, and then he fell off. And I don't believe he ever got close to that.
Starting point is 00:22:18 He lived off the name for a long time. We were ready for him to fade away. And the credit to him was that he never faded away. The credit to him was that he never faded away the credit to him was that he plateaued and found a way to to linger and and and work hard and stay there it's just that um it's been a long time since he had the the frosted tips and he was on bully beatdown and he was considered a world elite i mean look his original ufc run since coming back from world series he had a nice little string there
Starting point is 00:22:45 where he was a surprise potential contender and then he leveled out. But what do you think happened when you look back, Luke? Was it injuries? Was it that the game evolved and it took him a long time to evolve with it and now he's still standing when other people have fallen away and credit to him?
Starting point is 00:23:01 I mean, but he did go from elite to just a name in in a fairly quick time period where that's why we were ready to write him off yeah i mean he took a bunch of bad losses in a row right so there's this one period where he was getting viciously ko'd basically over and over and over again uh he has a couple of those right so in strike force i remember he lost against fedor brett rogers silva and sergey karatanov all of those, right? So in Strikeforce, I remember he lost against Fedor, Brett Rogers, Silva, and Sergey Karatanov. All of those were losses via punch. And then he had the Miocic, Overeem, Barnett, Francis, and Marcin Tybura. And I thought, okay, you know, you had two losing streaks of four fights or more in your career. That's it. But then he won
Starting point is 00:23:42 two right after that, and then lost two, and then had the no contest against Walt Harris and then lost to Sakai so another three five losing streak and now he's won three of his last four since then beating Ben Felipe Lins and Tanner Boster losing to Jairz in your Rosenstreich it is if you don't show up if you're not a super high quality uh heavyweight you're just a sort of a rising prospect whatever And you don't show up with the right game plan against this guy. You are very easy to lose one. You have to be kind of careful with him. And that's not saying the highest praise in the world, but it is to me, frankly, kind of interesting
Starting point is 00:24:16 that Orlovsky has figured this out. And I want to make sure we say it. That's pretty smart of him to do. And his winning is not an accident. Yeah, look, you don't come. It's so rare that people come back from four and five fight losing streaks in which there's heavy knockouts built in there i'll give him that oh what do you like what do you like this luke you ready him against greg hardy i like it i like it greg hardy has been moderately impressive against dudes who I don't mostly find impressive so how would he do
Starting point is 00:24:50 against a guy who's got very careful defense that's actually a pretty big test for Greg Hardy I know I like I might favor Alasky on paper to slow that fight down get through a first round and try to stretch him yeah it could be interesting so pay attention to the career of Andre Alovsky. You don't do your homework on the guy. He'll take a W from you. It's pretty, pretty, pretty remarkable.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Hey, big, big Brown found that out, bro. All right. You know what? You always find ways to dig in subtle shots against Brendan. And I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:25:17 No, he's a, he's a friend of the pro. He's part of the company, part of the team, Luke home team here. All right. I know that question is,
Starting point is 00:25:23 do you know that? All right. Last thing. You know, look at the career he's had on podcasts and comedy shows. I mean, that guy's turned this thing around, Luke. Shout out to him, all right? All right, so point number three here.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Let's end on the UFC card. There were other standout performers, BC. Lots of names you could pick from. Give me another name on this card from Saturday that stood out to you, and why? I want to actually kind of give you a couple here this main card look again this was one of those cards that you're like okay I like a few names and fights on here but it's a it's a stay busy love the main event we'll see what happens I was like thoroughly entertained watching this card especially the main card Luke the number one
Starting point is 00:25:59 name that deserves mention and please tell me how to pronounce it the the the amazing chinese women strawweight who defeated claudia can you just say the name so i cannot butcher it i don't know either just say yan yan yan jialin right yan jialin that's correct right something like luke she is mega impressive i mean are you kidding me 13 and one now unbeaten in the UFC 6 and 0 and look at the names now when you're talking about her last three Angela Hill Carolina Claudia like this is legit Luke she is tough as friggin nails in there has great technique is willing to stand and trade with you because she has the chin and she has the better technique in most cases so So she's not coming out here and looking to point fight you, even though most of her wins have gone the distance here.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Luke, I'm telling you, I don't know where her ceiling is. You know, maybe she doesn't have that plus plus offensive ability to stop the elites, but what she did in here against Claudia, especially considering that she was sort of overwhelmed early. Look,
Starting point is 00:27:04 look, here's the deal about Claudia, right? And I respect her trying to reinvent herself with Mark Henry and all that. But Luke, Claudia Goodale for her career is a first half fighter, right? So explosive early is so great when she's leading with wrestling first. But that wrestling first is taxing on her. And when it eventually turns into a striking match, even though she's tried her best to round that out if you're elite you can outstrike her and i think we found out here that that yan xialin yan is elite in that regard because look she's on her back in that
Starting point is 00:27:34 first round seemingly getting dominated but if you go back and re-watch it she had more moments off her back there than most people do when she's getting swallowed up there. And I think that set the tone for that really strong second round she had. I love after the fight when John Annex straight up asked her, you know, how long for you? You just beat a number three or four fighter in this division. How long before we could see you against somebody like a Weili Zhang? And she's like, call Dana right now. Ask Dana right now. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Luke, I'm ready for some all-China, strawweight women's division where it's all killer, no filler to see this woman as a legit title contender. Again, I do sort of question, does she have the next level plus striking to get over that mountain? But I am not willing to counter out
Starting point is 00:28:20 because she's tough as nails and her technique is strong. She's big for the division. She's in great shape. She has been a very pleasant surprise, and I will straight up admit the American bias. You see her a couple times, you go, oh, who is she? I don't really know her. She's another Chinese fighter.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I know her now, okay? There's been a couple wins in a row now. You can't avoid it now. That victory jumped off the page for me. Talk me down here because you know I get very excited about the one, one five Luke. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I'm like you too. I see these fighters from China and they've long had no profile in the sport. And you're like, ah, what does this mean? And you see like you, even the champion, Jane Wiley's record.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And you're like, there's a bunch of fights that she had in like Koon Loon fighting championship. And you're like, what is that? If you don't really know the details, then you actually look at the tape and you're like, huh,
Starting point is 00:29:04 there's something here. And then she goes to the UFC and just starts barreling down on everyone. I'm not saying that Jan, again, however you pronounce her name, Shao Nin, is exactly the same. But she looks to be the genuine article, a real prospect with real abilities, who has already proven she can fight some of the top members of this division. Now, how far can she go? I guess we'll have to see. But to your point, six-fight win streak in the best women's division, that is not a bullshit stat. That's a real deal achievement. And she looks to be poised for
Starting point is 00:29:34 something great here next. For me, I'm going to go with somebody who doesn't have a six-fight win streak, but has a five-fight win streak now in the UFC, quite quietly at that. Giga Chikadze. I'm sure I'm mispronouncing his last name. He is Georgian. By the way, have you noticed there's just a ton of Georgian fighters now in the UFC? I don't know how that happened. It seems to come out of nowhere. Yeah, shout out to the other ATL, Luke, right?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yeah, what's the capital of Georgia here? Tbilisi? Tbilisi? Sure. Brussels? I don't know. No, Brussels is Belgium. But, okay, the point is this.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I've been there. It's a nice city. Anyway, five-fight win streak, former competitor in glory. Now, he has fought a lot of people that you may not have heard of, unless you watch Contender Series or the Bottom of Cards or something. He has very much had to prove to UFC management that he's more than just a good kickboxer who has okay takedown defense. And in fact, he is. He has pretty, I would say even very good takedown defense, good scrambling,
Starting point is 00:30:35 good game underneath. He is hard-nosed, as you can well imagine, when it comes to striking. And he beat good top prospects like Brandon Davis and others. So now he gets a win over Jamie Simons in the first round of Simons, you know, or Simmons, whatever had come in with, this was his UFC debut. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:52 he was a bad hair night, Luke. He had a bad, bad hair night. It was overmatched. But my point being is this giga Chikazi is someone to pay attention to. I don't know how far he can go in, in,
Starting point is 00:31:02 you know, when he really starts to ascend to people beyond, you know, the Erwin Rivera's and Omar Morales's of the world. But I will say at 145 pounds BC, he has a lot of skills you like. He has a certain intensity to the way he fights that I really, really like watching. His standup skills are just tremendous. Everyone wants to take him down. But like Adesanya he's one
Starting point is 00:31:26 of these kickboxers who realize there's a certain level of takedown defense I just have to have otherwise this whole thing falls apart early in their career anyway and he's got it look out I do fear I fear this though even though he was he had a bend but not break takedown defense in this fight right he never was ending up for long periods getting taken, but he was in the standing clinch a lot against a fighter and Jamie Simons there who I don't know. I just wasn't impressed with. So I was sort of waiting for him to get that separation. It took him a long time. He finally did. And he showed you why he's a fun fighter.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I hope that takedown defense is for real because this winning streak feels like it's for real. He screamed for attention, put me back in the cage in December, like, let's do this thing. I love when these guys are hungry, want to show themselves. So I'm with you on that. But, Luke, this Brazilian fellow, the Bantamweight, he might have been as impressive as Shaolin and Iga. Oh, Haoni Barcelos? Haoni?
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah, look, I didn't know this guy. I didn't know this Haoni Barcelos, who's won, what, nine in a row in all five of his UFC bouts coming off that win over Saeed Nurmagomedov. I don't need to throw extra praise on what I think the announced team, you know, Dominic Cruz, John Anik, did such a great job of doing already, which is tell you that this fight was high theater. Trevor Whitman came in and was, you know, ready to shoot the whole thing at the screen, and I agreed with him.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Khalid Taha brought it, but Barcelos, Luke, was just better in every single category. A motor for days. He can work on the ground. His striking, the fluidity of his striking and the variety of it at that pace was insane, Luke. Wake me up here. I didn't know who he was.
Starting point is 00:33:05 You look at his resume, you're like, whoa, maybe I should have. Is this guy a legit player in the second deepest division in this game? Yeah, he certainly is. This was a guy that was making a bunch of noise in RFA, LFA, whatever it was at the time he was competing in it, and made his way to the UFC and hasn't lost since. Now he's had a bunch of canceled bouts and things have fallen out and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:33:24 But when you saw that, you were like, wow, this guy's really good. Yeah, he's had a bunch of canceled bouts and things have fallen out and blah blah blah but he is when you saw that you were like wow this guy's really good yeah he's been really good he just hasn't really quite broken through for a lot of different reasons but maybe with this one if he can stay healthy and stay active he can build on it because to your point this is his wins in the UFC Kurt Hollibaugh who's a very good fighter Chris Gutierrez who this year through the pandemic has shown himself to be somebody to take seriously Carlos Huachin who's a very good fighter. Chris Gutierrez, who this year, through the pandemic, has shown himself to be somebody to take seriously. Carlos Huachin, who's, you know, fine. Saeed Nurmagomedov, and then now Khalid Taha. You know, getting some...
Starting point is 00:33:54 The last two fights have gone a little bit longer than maybe they should have, given the skill differential. But still, he is clearly a force to be reckoned with. And look, so, you know, sexiness of your opponent matters, but so does placement on a card, Luke. If a lot of these fights are coming deep on the prelims, even, you know, even us, we can only watch so many fights, right? Like, you know, you may miss some of that.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Putting this on the main card, having an opponent like Taha, who is really willing to push him, you suddenly saw, I think, the best of who this Brazilian fella is. So, once again, here's another name on the Rolodex that's becoming must-see TV for me, Luke, okay? Wake my filthy, casual ass up here, Bracelos, okay, bro? And also that Bantamweight is clearly becoming the, if not the best division right now, the division of the future.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Okay, let's go to our next point here, BC. Well, BC's been telling me about this guy, and every time I've paid attention, I've been a little bit uninspired, especially with his fight on Saturday. Devin Haney gets a win over Yuri Yorkis Gamboa. Now here's the good news. If you're a Devin Haney fan, it wasn't close. In fact, you could give him every round. All right. That's how not close it was. Still Gamboa has been knocked down 14 times in his career but he didn't taste the canvas one time Haney was talking about how he wanted to beat Gamboa worse than others had like Gervonta Davis and he really didn't now he got the win he was the better guy BC but what did he prove with a
Starting point is 00:35:20 victory like this yeah we saw a very polarizing reaction to this. I think this was a bad time to do the safe, completely dominant style of victory. And look, in a lot of ways, Devin Haney is a Floyd Mayweather clone, right? Like Floyd actually was woke to Devin Haney early in his career and wanted to promote him. And Devin Haney studied the Floyd handbook. And this was a very welterweight pay-per-view Floyd performance. The problem is, in this this case is Floyd had already
Starting point is 00:35:48 built up a resume to get to that level of stardom and in the smaller weight classes Floyd was much more aggressive and got people out of there. He sort of had to fight this way at welterweight against bigger fighters when his hand problems were there and he got older. Haney picked
Starting point is 00:36:03 the wrong time to do this kind of performance when you're younger and by the way he's only 21 so like this guy is the goods are there they're there Luke the goods are there but when you're a young guy looking to get attention and when your fight is coming at a time where again I'm going to say it these five guys these five young names all around lightweight that look like they have next in this sport Teofimo just had the biggest win in all of boxing this calendar year. Teofimo Lopez against Lomachenko a couple weeks back. Then we see Gervonta Davis on pay-per-view deliver the boom.
Starting point is 00:36:34 There was a Ryan Garcia's got a fight coming up. There was a lot of expectations to go out there and make a statement. A statement was not made. And while I'm not going to damn him the fighter for that, Luke, I will damn him for missing an opportunity to really grab attention, missing a marketing opportunity, missing a lot of that, because what he should have done was go in there and knock Gamboa out. Gamboa is still dangerous to a degree because his hand speed is good
Starting point is 00:37:02 despite him being well over the hill and he's he'll take chances so even though Gervonta stopped him in the 12th round Luke you remember that Gamboa had moments and he's just going to go out there and empty the tank on you and it's one thing afterwards for Devin Haney to go on Twitter and brag about how much money he's making at 21 and brag about how Gervonta took clean shots in order to finally stop Gamboa but Gervonta made a statement in his first fight at lightweight there and he won a secondary title and he got the job done whether it was difficult or not I think Haney in some ways you hate to say that he took the easy way out he took the easy way out if your goal is to go out there and make
Starting point is 00:37:42 a splash yes he took the easy way out he leaned on is to go out there and make a splash. Yes, he took the easy way out. He leaned on his advantages, and he had a clinical, thorough, impressive victory from the standpoint of hit and not get hit. And again, that's something Haney was tweeting about afterwards. I think the whole Twitter storm from Haney, and he kind of went back and forth with Gervonta, didn't really make him look great. If you want to be all about what you can do as a pure boxer, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:38:06 You're going to win a lot. But you've got to build that foundation first of marketability and making people want to see you. Unfortunately, this is a couple fights in a row where, like you said, Luke, you can watch it and go, man, he's really good. But I'm not seeing charisma. I'm not seeing an it factor. I'm seeing a guy go in there to win and come out with the win, and that's it. And look, there's two games in boxing. There's the business, and there's what happens in the ring.
Starting point is 00:38:32 And again, Floyd could do and fight in the style he did for preservation purposes because he had already built that foundation. In that sense, Luke, yes, this was a disappointing performance from Devin Haney in that sense. And I think he doubled down on Twitter and didn't really hammer it home. Against weaker competition, he's going to blow him away and give you a spectacular knockout. But he's got to figure out, Luke, against when he starts stepping up, how to also step up the show with that.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Because if you're Ryan Garcia, if you're Gervonta, if you're Teofimo and somebody puts a microphone now in front of you, they're going to trash this guy. They're going to be like, you let this guy go. You let Gambola go the distance against you. You never knocked him down. You never hurt him. And you're not going to be able to get away with, he didn't hit me once.
Starting point is 00:39:14 It's not going to work right now. Yeah, I mean, I saw and I love the, what is it, the Latin snake? Sergio Mora. Yeah, I love Sergio Mora. He had a tweet, tweet though that i just found baffling listen i know he wants to defend devin haney and again dude devin haney is 25 and 0 at 21 years old the kid can obviously box his ass off that's not the issue the issue is you know what is the upside how far can he go does he understand the task at hand, given his ambition? And you saw Mora saying things like comparing him to Floyd. Floyd didn't have Floyd in all of his pay-per-view fights. He only had two stoppages. One was the Hatton one, and one was the Victor Ortiz ortiz one and blah blah blah but then it's like well okay but
Starting point is 00:40:05 sergio if you look at where floyd was at a similar age relative to haney i mean this is a guy who around that time in 2000 in back-to-back fights uh floyd stopped emmanuel augustus the drunken master and chico corrales and then later, Corrales down six times, right? Right. I mean, he beat the fuck out of Corrales, right?
Starting point is 00:40:27 And then he goes on. He had a three fight win streak where he beat, uh, Philip Endu, DeMarcus Corley and Henry, uh, excuse me. What am I saying?
Starting point is 00:40:35 Uh, Arturo Gotti, Arturo Gotti, Shamba Mitchell, Zab, the Zab dude went to a decision. I mean, look,
Starting point is 00:40:41 Floyd at that age, got you the hell out of there. If he could, he was offensive he was looking to get your attention and Luke here's before you finish here's why it's double damning right now all these young guys talk like they want to fight each other Luke all these these five names I mentioned right Shakur Stevenson again is rising up he'll be here soon all those guys are using each other's names but the reality is they're all with separate promoters
Starting point is 00:41:04 separate network for the most part although Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney are both with the zone so it's more likely but Luke if he wants to fight guys like Teofimo or Gervonta it's probably gonna have to be a two network special type fight which means oh by the way both will have to have a high level of crossover appeal and understanding that fight against bamboa is not how you build crossover appeal if this was gamboa from five years ago you know you'd go okay that that's a potential tough out look at look at what gamboa did against terence crawford he pushed him it ain't that gamboa anymore and i love gamboa i love that guy it was a little round in the waist luke it It's past due, okay?
Starting point is 00:41:45 The milk is spoiled now. You need to end that, man. You didn't do it. So don't go on Twitter and ran out at this point. Come back with a stronger performance next time, and then we'll reevaluate. Yeah, I don't think it's fair. I mean, Gamboa had the torn Achilles, and they say he's back now. He doesn't have nearly the same movement that he used to,
Starting point is 00:42:01 and he's up a weight class of 135. I don't think that's his natural weight class. I think it's a place that he can go to because it's kind of, I won't say easy to make, but it's not, you know, it's not as hard to make as some of the smaller weights where he's fought. And so again, like all these comparisons to Floyd, everybody wants to be Floyd. Teofimo Lopez is the only one who recognized there's one way to be Floyd. And that's in the early and middle stage of your career, you got to hammers and when you fight those hammers more often than not of course he didn't he didn't put the lights out of Lomachenko but you know just beating that guy is impressive enough and everyone
Starting point is 00:42:34 else he's basically stopped or pretty close to anyway uh you got to fight hammers and you got to have results that let people know that you are appointments of viewing nice win by Devin Haney dude's talented but that wasn't the resume-building performance that I think he hoped it would be. Yeah, if your only goal is to get on the pound-for-pound list, then that's a win in the right direction. But that's not people's goals anymore, and really nor should it be. Your goal is to make a lot of money and get out of this sport on your own terms,
Starting point is 00:43:00 and you've got to take a little bit more chances in that regard. All right, so with that in mind, we go to our fifth and final topic bc well things change because i wrote these uh questions for the show yesterday and then we got a bit of breaking news so i'll just do it this way we were supposed to get makachev islam makachev versus hafayal dos anjos this weekend but makachev is out the question was originally going to be between crawford bro Brook, BKFC, and then Makachev versus Dos Anjos, what fight would you say would be best? But we've lost one of the main events, so
Starting point is 00:43:31 I'm guessing, what, Crawford-Brook? Well, let's not forget the Bellator featherweight tournament continues Thursday night, so there's two good matchups, including Pitbull, by the way, and that ain't a bad fight right there against Pedro Carvalho. But Luke, I want to stay on the Islam RDA thing here. Look, RDA's on a bit of a skid here.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Three out of four lost. He's aging in the wrong direction. Luke, he's cutting back down to lightweight for this one. Remember that was the weight he couldn't make safely? And Eddie Alvarez surprised him and jumped all over him. Luke, give me a replacement fight that makes sense to keep your interest for this main event. If he's back
Starting point is 00:44:11 at lightweight, who are we going to put him in there with? Future champion Kevin Lee's tattoo artist, who are we going to put him in there with, Luke? Who's available? Gregor Gillespie, Drew Dober, Cowboy, I meanber, Cowboy. I mean, something like that.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I don't know. I hope they find somebody worthy. I want to learn something from this fight. Okay. Is RDA done, Luke? Tell me the truth. Is RDA done? No.
Starting point is 00:44:38 No, not quite yet. I think he still has the ability to get some elite wins. I don't think he has the ability to get a belt wrapped around his waist again, but he, I think, definitely still has the ability to get some elite wins. I don't think he has the ability to get a belt wrapped around his waist again, but he, I think, definitely still has the ability to beat some tough. Because he's relentlessly competitive, and even just that, against young up-and-coming contenders who haven't quite figured out how to really master the game. You go up against a guy like RDA, he'll still put it on you
Starting point is 00:45:00 if the moment is right. But I just don't know where they go. Yeah, I don't know what they're going to do because makachev is sitting at 12 i don't think contenders above him are going to want to face them on short notice or even be ready same for the ones below him so they might just figure out someone it's going to be a situation like it was for like the third iteration of them trying to make cowboy excuse me khabib and tony and they ended up on khabib versus daryl horcher it's going to be something like that and i don't know who that is going to be but this would be one of those times to to call the bmf ranch it would be right it would be one of
Starting point is 00:45:36 those times to call cowboy and say you in shape bro can you make welter right yeah yeah it is you got to call you got to throw up the bat signal a little bit don't you i mean they they have history didn't they fight twice luke uh rda and them they fought twice and rda won both of them okay i'm just trying to get creative here but rda is out so this would be makachev who's still in there no no makachev's out bro get your get your shirt together did i get that up? Let me verify that. You might be right. You might be right.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Listen, I'm old and washed. Do you understand? I don't even know why I have this job. I suck. All right. Well, we're tentatively going to be, tentatively going to be chatting or with, or I am with RDA this week on morning combat. So we'll see if that plays out, if he gets a new opponent and, uh, Luke, we got Kevin
Starting point is 00:46:23 Nash, big sexy, the wrestler this week on morning combat. We also, I got a way bigger name than that but i don't you know i want jinx it let's make sure that the connection works and that the uh yeah also so uh real quickly for folks who may not have let's imagine that there are fight fans watching who've never seen bud crawford what are they in for okay so he's legitimately in the conversation for pound for pound best in the world and has been for a while. He brought all four titles together at 140 pounds, undisputed champion. First time that happened in the four-belt era in that division. Has moved up to welterweight and has done nothing, Luke,
Starting point is 00:46:54 but remind you that he's insanely good. The problem, Luke, is that he's on the wrong side of the street, you know, in terms of promotion and network. So he's had to fight retreads. And, you know, he fought a Jeff Horn who was hot at the moment. He fought a Amir Khan who was washy. Now he's fighting a Kell Brook who has won three in a row. And you can check out my interview with him on Morning Combat that we did last week.
Starting point is 00:47:19 People think he's washy. He's 35-ish. He has had trouble making welterweight lately kel brook though for the money is is as well-rounded and toughen out so here's here's hoping that kel brook can can make a legitimate uh tough out here for crawford the one thing you'll say about crawford he's been unable to get you know the spence the porters all the big names that we want him to fight he comes to fight every fight like he's facing Floyd Mayweather he is so freaking good he's slick but he has a backbone and the probably the coolest part about him Luke is that he can switch to southpaw and do
Starting point is 00:47:56 the two stance thing really as good I'm serious as good as anyone at the elite level that I've ever seen he can switch stances and when he switches to southpaw, he typically takes his opponent out of the game. And while he could easily outbox folks from distance, he has that backbone and killer instinct to get you out of there. So sometimes it comes late in the fight as he's trying to figure out, but he'll deliver the blow. He's a badass. Problem is his resume.
Starting point is 00:48:23 You know, it's how tired are you going to get when he's consistently fighting B-level welterweights. We want to see him against the best. This division's overflowing with names. The problem is they are all under the PBC banner. Not a problem for Fox and Showtime. A problem for Bud Crawford at the moment. Luke, I'm hoping like hell, Kell Brook can dip into the oven
Starting point is 00:48:42 and as he would say, bring back a little bit of them little chocolate brownies and find the Kell Brook of old, because this could be some fun theater on ESPN this Saturday. Also competing on DAZN 2 p.m., Katie Taylor is back against someone named Miriam Gutierrez. I know a lot about Katie Taylor. I don't know shit about Miriam Gutierrez,
Starting point is 00:49:03 so I guess we'll see how that goes. For BKFC 14 of World Series of Fighting Fame, I believe, Luis Palomino is on the card, and then Datwin versus Reggie Barnett. I don't know much about either of them, BC, but it's there if you want to see it. Loser has to drive the Uber home? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:23 No, legitimately, that might be their career progression after that. You know what? BKFC, it's the last stop, right, Luke? Unless you're Paige Van Zandt, it's the last stop. Yeah, it certainly can be. And then, of course, you have the UFC card this weekend. Let me pull that up here very quickly, if I may. You may, Luke.
Starting point is 00:49:43 It's actually not a good card. And this is the one we were referencing because what's his face got in trouble with uh uh john cavanaugh for being like yo this card's not good but you know for real they were right the card is not good now again it could end up well for our friday preview episode luke when we look at the weekend to come this doesn't bode well for that maybe we we should find a new activity. Yeah, maybe. It's going to be, oh, let's see. Let's see this card here. It is going to be, let's see. You have Abdul Razak Alhassan is back against Chaos Williams.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Julian, the Cuban Missile Crisis. Marquez against Saperbeg Safarov. Dontel Mays versus Roque Martinez. Antonio Arroyo, who's good actually uh from versus eric anders k hansen is back against cory mckenna yeah alex moreno hey i love me some k hansen so f your politics luke i love me some k hansen great uh ashley yoder taking on miranda granger louis smoke is back against Jose Alberto Quinones, random Marcos, Kanako Murata. This is our new segment on morning combat where we just read you every fight.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Fight card. Yes. I'm just reading shit off topology. I apologize. Look, what are we doing right now? What are we having? I was,
Starting point is 00:50:55 I was hoping, I was hoping to find a gem in there and I didn't quite find one, but anyway, the shit's already leaking from the ceiling. Jay, come on in, bro. Here he is, guys.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I'm here. Hey, look. Look at that. You can see his face. Do you know Jay tried to argue that he checked out the stats from his appearance last Monday on this show, and he claims that when he left the show at the end, viewership dipped considerably. Luke, your thoughts? I'm going to tell Jay what my parents have always told me throughout my life, which is
Starting point is 00:51:26 you're a loser and nothing you do matters. While that may be true, it is not beneath me to post those statistics in actual form as evidence during this program. I will prove what I said.
Starting point is 00:51:41 You may have a producer credit, Luke, but this guy actually has the launch codes to this show. I guess so. Jay, I like when you go with the white rims on the glasses. That lets me know it's a big show. It's a big day. Monday's always a big day. You know, if you have the white rims on the glasses,
Starting point is 00:51:57 it means you saw Crazy Town in concert twice. Come, my lady. Come, come, my lady. Right? Come on right And not once You went back for seconds What do you think happens
Starting point is 00:52:09 At a crazy town concert When they sing Come my lady When they sing Butterfly Yeah Yeah A bunch of people
Starting point is 00:52:16 Would call out to the jobs They had the next day But they don't They live with their parents Hey you know what band In that era Was actually pretty good P.O.D.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Right Right Payable on Death. Southtown's a good song. I like Southtown. They had two hits, right? Yeah. You know, true story.
Starting point is 00:52:30 We were going to rent a tour bus to promote our documentary, and P.O.D. was getting off the bus the weekend before we got on. But then we didn't sell enough tickets. Now, what's Weejay, the morning combat documentary that's coming out this week? That one should get a tour bus. This was for the Back in Time film and music tour. Yes, yes. Thank you, Luke, for checking out of the show.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Luke's actually looking out the window of his office. This is the worst. This is awful. Can we do DMs for donks and not talk to the donk, please? Wow, wow. Sorry, Jay. Let it be known I'm on your side, all right? Let it be known.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Let it be known. Gold ring embedded with stone. When I punch you in the let it be known I'm on your side. All right? Let it be known. Let it be known. Gold ring embedded with stone. When I punch you in the head, this shit will dent up your dome. All right. Let's go to the DMs from dogs, please. I would love to. There we go. I mean, we're just sitting there talking to Jay as I read Facebook.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I mean, what are we doing here? All right. Yeah. First question. I bet you were looking up old high school girlfriends, Luke, to see if they got thick. Right, bro? Right? I actually don't do that, believe it or not. But high school girlfriends, Luke, to see if they got thick, right, bro, right? I actually don't do that, believe it or not.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yeah, right, dude. Come on. No, listen. I have many shortcomings, and I am the worst person in America some days. But that's actually not a thing. I don't think I've done that in 10 years. I'm too busy in the front yard lifting these rocks, Biatch. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:53:44 That's right. I'm in the front yard just lifting like an old pathetic piece of shit. All right. From CQuizzle93, where do you rank Brahimai's ear falling off amongst the worst injuries you've seen in MMA or combat sports? Let me set this up. He was fighting Max Griffin, and he got hit. I can't remember if it was a right hook or an elbow, BC,
Starting point is 00:54:10 but it was on the left ear. And this was obviously, like many ears are, a cauliflower ear. But I went back and I looked before the fight. It was not super swollen. Now, at least from what I could tell, it just looked like a hardened cauliflower ear. But it got hit kind of, not quite, but where the ear inside meets the rim of the ear. And when it got split, the outer ear was still mostly attached to the head. But everything else was just dangling off. Because I guess once you get cauliflower ear, if you cut it, it's not really connected to the rest of the ear like it used to be. And that was a bad injury, dude.
Starting point is 00:54:45 If you want to see more, stay tuned for Have You Seen This Shit, but I'd put it on the scale somewhere between Luke, James the Colossus Thompson versus Kimbo Slice and John Wayne versus Loretta Bobbitt. Yeah, but that's the thing. The John Wayne, Loretta Bobbitt joke is lame. I mean, the 90s are over, Kai. Oh, come on. Number two, James Thompson's ear was swollen when he went into that fight a little bit.
Starting point is 00:55:10 It got worse as the fight went on. Also, folks may not remember this. Seth Petruzzelli did something similar to, who was the guy? The hillbilly heartthrob who, on season two, Brad Imes. Brad Imes, he exploded his ear in the middle of a fight and that shit looked ridiculously awful or maybe it was the other way around ridiculous yeah uh this is worse than those this is up there with leslie smith's ear falling off remember that yeah it's up there with that time that uh uh felice herring choked that chick out and she shit her pants in the cage. No one talks about that, Luke.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Remember that? Yeah, Justine Kish. Oh, God. Like, if this was high school, she would never live it down, right? Justine Kish now has to marry Tim Sylvia, two fighters who shat themselves in the middle of a contest.
Starting point is 00:56:00 You owe it to yourselves to reproduce. I don't know this Tim Sylvia story. I don't know the story. What is this? Tim Sylvia was fighting some Brazilian. I forget his name. Something Silva. And he had the flu.
Starting point is 00:56:10 He had the flu game. And he shot himself visibly in the middle of the fight. You've never seen this? No, I've never seen that. I'll tell you who it was. I forget the guy's name. Yeah, dude. You've been watching MMA as long as I have.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You have seen quite literally some shit. Yeah, have you seen that? Have you? Yeah, have you smelled that shit? He fought a dude, but hold on. He fought, I'll tell you the guy's name. He fought. Some guy named Silva.
Starting point is 00:56:36 That was very racist of you, Luke, okay? Well, I mean, I know. I think it really was. It was, he fought Oswerio Silva. That's who it was. UFC Fight Night 3, January 2006. The day he took a dump. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:49 So gross, right? That's like, yeah. I know. I want you to think about Tim Sylvia's sweaty rear end and feces coming out of it. All right. From at combat.society. Would you lift weights with Glover in your front yard? Are you fucking kidding? Not only would I lift weights with Glover in your front yard? Are you fucking kidding?
Starting point is 00:57:06 Not only would I lift weights with Glover in my front yard, I would treat my front yard like the yard. I'd even be willing to be his prison bitch. Glover Teixeira is amazing, and I would love to lift weights with Glover. Can you imagine? By the way, I told this story before. This is true.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I one time asked Glover, I'm like, who are you at a party? Like, everyone's got a role at a party. Like, it's a thing that you do. Are you the guy who's like the one who makes everyone dance around you uncomfortably? Because you seem very festive. He's like, no, I hate dancing. I'm the guy in the back with a cigar, and I'm very good at telling stories.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Oh, buddy, can you imagine the stories this guy can tell while we're out here doing overhead presses AMRAP style? Amazing. It's always been my dream to not have this conversation anymore. One of our worst episodes of all time. Next question, please.
Starting point is 00:57:57 From at watch underscore beginner underscore Alan. Hey, Donks. How soon do we see the first all-Chinese strawweight title fight between Zhang Weili and Yan Xiaonan? Well, A, not soon enough after how great Yan looked. And shout out to her. We talked about that.
Starting point is 00:58:16 But, Luke, I want to ask you this. Like, you would think for UFC, this would be like, oh, crap, we have something here. Let's put it on Chinese soil once things calm down and let's make a lot of money off of it. Who is, you know, so the champion is Wei Li at the moment. You could do Rose and that would be a freaking amazing fight. But do you skip that to do this, Luke?
Starting point is 00:58:40 I mean, do you, I mean, look, one day Tatiana Suarez is going to walk again and we'll figure out how good she is. I don't think she's fought, you know, since, since Clinton was in office, but, uh, I don't think I'm missing anyone else. Who's like Uber deserving. I think you could almost cut the line and kind of do this as a fun sort of let's build business over there.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Fight. Couldn't you? I think you could, but until they get COVID under control, I would wait because let's imagine today we had this news, right? Pfizer's got this vaccine where it can prevent in 90% of cases infection. All right. Let's assume that we can deploy this in some kind of readily, you know, you know, good fashion.
Starting point is 00:59:18 You know, people don't do the whole, I'm not taking Bill Gates's vaccine because I read Facebook twice, that whole bullshit. And we can get to a place where people actually get vaccinated and you can have crowds again, BC. Wouldn't you rather wait to have an all-Chinese main event in China with a crowd where you can build that market versus just kind of turning and burning it
Starting point is 00:59:37 in the middle of a pandemic? Yes, you would. Yes, you would. But at the same time, I'm like, wouldn't you want to build up to Whaley and Rose? I mean, look, seriously, for my fandom, that's among the best five fights you can make in this sport. Rose and Whaley. Seriously. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Talk me off of that. Right? I'm sitting on it right now. By the way, with this vaccine news, BC, I mean, for a guy who was very invested in February-packed arenas, how confident are you with today's vaccine news? We get there. Fairly, fairly confident. I mean, I got to tell you, I got to tell you, that's a real,
Starting point is 01:00:12 that's a needle mover right there. I mean, look, if Canelo is coming back in December and wants to pack some stadium in Texas, right? I mean, we got Errol Spence, December 5th in Texas, Connor back in January. We could be seeing some big business. Luke, combat life, not regular life. Combat life could be normalized soon.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Something like that, maybe. We'll see. I mean, there's a reason. I'll say this, BC. It's good news today is what that was. Good news. Can't get enough good news in the year 2020. I'll say that.
Starting point is 01:00:40 All right. Which Ioana trilogy is more likely, Klaja or Rose? Klaja. I'd be in on that. Which Ioana trilogy is more likely? Claudia or Rose? Claudia. I would have said Rose if she had won her last fight, but Claudia. She did win her last fight. Well, I thought she won her last fight, but I'm saying if the judges had agreed. She beat Jessica Andrade. No, no, no, sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I'm talking about, no, not Rose. What am I saying? Ioana? Yeah, I am sorry I'm talking about, no, not Rose What am I saying? Dude, I am Yeah, I am out there I am barely listening to you Sorry It'd be a lot like room service diaries in a way, Luke Right, you know
Starting point is 01:01:16 Just through Zoom Alright, from At Extra Josh Milley Will Dana White make AOCs? That's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's revenge list. So if you didn't see this, it's not really a revenge list. I think this person is joking and or demented. It's just a list of folks who she considered to be enablers of the current president,
Starting point is 01:01:44 but usually it was like lawmakers or news organizations. Do you think Dana White stumped it? Here's what I'll say about this, BC. We made a video. We did a whole deep dive of like what happens to Colby Schtick if Trump loses. Now, you know, we're still in a part where there's a little bit of uncertainty about what's going to happen exactly next,
Starting point is 01:02:04 but it does appear whether you like it or you hate it, Biden's going to take office, okay? Which makes the question about what the hell Colby's going to do, you know, a real one. All the comments were basically torching me in that video. It's like, well, folks, it was a reasonable question then and it's a reasonable question now, what's going to happen to all these MMA folks, Dana White included, who got behind a guy who appears to be, appears to be on the losing end of things? BC, that's you. You know, I look at both sides as pretty awful.
Starting point is 01:02:38 You are. And you get on me for not wanting to make fight picks, you unbelievable coward. I mean, I just don't care, Luke. You know, you, hey, Don Henley's going to try to tell me i need to vote you know what i mean p did he vote or die i died bro you didn't give me a good option so i died okay that's funny all right find me a candidate lucas nader's still running come on you think seriously what do you think colby's gonna do uh he's gonna he there's three lanes he can go i talked about this the episode you weren't there
Starting point is 01:03:06 but uh he's either gonna double down that that i think he'll probably double down because of the the trump side saying that that they've been wronged and the supreme court figured out i think he doubles down on trump rather luke than going full-on biden no or just dropping that and being a troll of fighters maybe in the long run but I think for now he stays stays in his lane dude how amazing would it be if he became like a super hardcore Biden fan you know what I mean like doing the exact same thing he was doing just as an avatar for he should he should pivot a little and drape himself in the don't tread on me flag and go that route. Go the militia route.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Should he go the militia route? I don't think that's very wise. As his pro wrestling manager, I would tell him, you know, I'm sure his current pro wrestling manager, the ATT guy is telling him what to do. Yeah. Thank you. All right, BC, this is super up your alley from at Cubbies fan 80. What is your Mount Rushmore of rock vocalists? Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:11 That's a great question. Yes. Yes. Yes. Go. Yes. My favorite rock vocalist of all time is Rod Stewart. Now, before you go, you think of, Rod Stewart Now before you Think of you know
Starting point is 01:04:26 Before you get all weird on me And you think of all his sexy adult Contemporaries You know who also considers him their favorite is Abuela Literally Abuela's favorite Rock vocalist is Rod Stewart As Luke would say Take the Pepsi challenge of Rob the Mod's
Starting point is 01:04:43 Time with the Jeff Beck Group and his time with The Faces along with his first three solo albums. Rod Stewart has the best voice in rock history, Luke. I'm not even kidding. I'm not even a Rod super fan. I just understand. Listen to the album Truth, 1970, Jeff Beck Group. That is a tour de force of blues rock and early heavy metal.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Uh, it's actually considered to be the spawning album along with Led Zeppelin one of how we got to where we are with heavy metal today. That's Rod Stewart on vocals there, Luke. Okay, bro. So he's a name on my four.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Why don't you add one on yours right now? Of rock vocalists. Yes. Yes. All right. Eddie Ved vetter is is also there his voice is one of the rare ones where it's an instrument in the band he's not singing over the music he's a part of the music eddie vetter's voice is an instrument on on the i mean would you count rob halford yeah that's rock bro rock is Rock is heavy metal, hard rock. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Yes, yes, I would. The problem is I don't know a whole lot about rock, unfortunately. How do you not know a whole lot about rock? Who are you? Because you're sitting there stumping for Rod Stewart. I don't want to be like, see, Joe Acuerdo, abuela. Me encanta Rod Stewart. I know he got out of the rock business fairly early, but seriously, C, Joe Acuerdo, Abuela. May Encanto, Rod Stewart. I know he got out of the rock business fairly early,
Starting point is 01:06:11 but seriously, go back and try it out, all right? Seriously, thank you. Would you say... I mean, are you going to put Robert Plant in there? Who are you putting in your top four? Yeah, I was going to say Robert Plant. That would be the other one. Which Paul McCartney, I guess, or... Who's the old guy from the stones who's
Starting point is 01:06:26 somehow not dead mick jagger would be the would be the name of the old guy from the stones thank you luke this is great you know a man of such great taste who loves death rock and abortion metal like come on dude you really it's abortion i don't know know rock. Get it right. This is the worst. Axl Rose. Where are you on Axl Rose? Do you like him? Yeah. Prime Axl, when he had a voice, yes.
Starting point is 01:06:52 It's very distinct. It's great. Not the stuff that lasts like 10, 15 years. I would rank him as certainly an iconic rock figure, but we're just talking vocalists. Yeah, we're talking vocalists right now. I don't know. His sound, his range, his range in the in the metal of the. I mean, it was I was you know, I can't claim to be I can't claim to be a G&R aficionado.
Starting point is 01:07:14 So I'm well, number three on my Mount Rushmore is Michael McDonald. You may know him from the Doobie Brothers. You may know him from his R&B adult contemporary run. Michael McDonald's voice is insane, Luke. It's all time. It's insane. You don't know me, but I'm your father. I mean, it's so good.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Look, he gets so high. Luke, he's the Sir Smoke-a-Lot of male falsetto. What about where are you on Michael Stipe from R.E.M.? Oh, get the fuck. Luke, seriously, one more outburst like that, you're off the show. I'm not fooling around here, okay? What's wrong with REM?
Starting point is 01:07:49 Go lose your religion to your college bros. Night Swimming is a good song. Fuck you. I mean, what can I say? I like people from Athens, Georgia. Eat shit. God, who are I...
Starting point is 01:08:00 Jay Tatefield, honorable mention. I mean, but that's heavy metal. That's heavy metal. That's rock, though. Jay loves Nickelback. Jay, you like Nickelback a lot, right? I do like Nickelback. I'm not putting Chad Kroger on any Mount Rushmore.
Starting point is 01:08:12 You are, Mike. Who's the guy from Creed? Scott Stapp? Is that who it was? Who was banging people along with Kid Rock, drinking boons, farming shit? He was also homeless on the street collecting coins. But he he by the way scott stapp's vocal range is the same as eddie vetter's like could we point out that there's like
Starting point is 01:08:31 like all right stapp had pipes okay but he's lame come on well let's get off of that i'm not letting you turn this into the nickelback hour uh how about uh how i got one a serious one two two of them uh chris cornell i think that's one for sure freaking great dude okay and then amazing and then uh i can't my brain doesn't work anymore but the lead singer for stone temple pilots uh wild wild scott wyland both of those are pretty freaking great great and i and even though he's not traditional god david lee roth i mean has anyone ever owned yeah a front man and the microphone it's such a distinct way it's not traditional it's not a great voice he does like the menorah thank you thank you um i love this discussion i would have liked a little bit of prep time but uh but uh i mean look freddie mercury come on freddie mercury oh yeah freddie
Starting point is 01:09:19 mercury and kurt cobain another guy that couldn't sing, also killed himself. And very recognizable voice. Layne Staley. You know, I was a big Austin Chains guy. Basically, if you drug overdosed anywhere between like 1993 and 2002, you're on the list. Would you count Bob Dylan? In some albums, yes. Now, look, he's known for having a crappy voice in a lot of his career he had it but i'm a huge bob dylan head so there are certain i mean the blonde on blonde double album his voice
Starting point is 01:09:51 i you know i'll put that up against with anybody the blood on the tracks nashville skyline when he went country that version of his voice yeah there's times luke but he's mostly known for having a shitty voice and for playing three chords in a harmonica yet being the greatest songwriter of all time guys i have one more for you here i have one more oh that guy look at this fucking putz luke here's where you gotta give him credit he he leans into it he goes for it right i mean like i like how i like how whoever shot this realized you're not supposed to be in the shot and there's you mouth breathing with your fucking nostrils god you sicken me i'm gonna throw david crosby in there of you know the birds and birds and CSNY fame. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I feel like I'm having this conversation. What about Bruce? Bruce Springsteen. Bruce has got a great voice, especially 70s Bruce. Oh, God. The Wild and the Innocent, E Street Shop, that version of Bruce. Good Lord, yes. Oh, I got one more for you.
Starting point is 01:10:56 I don't know his name, but the lead singer. Oh, you know what? I'll say Morrissey. I love Morrissey, so fuck you. I'm not going to, you know you know he likes these guys like the touch of another man uh but uh the dude who was the lead singer of Talking Heads uh yeah um uh what's his jay what the hell is the guy's you know the guy the guy David no the guy what's the guy's name the guy I don't know but I was just thinking about Paul Simon yeah Paul Simon's a
Starting point is 01:11:22 bitch fuck Paul Simon all. How about not traditional? Old Jerry Garcia? Like, late 80s, early 90s? Jerry Garcia is absolute trash. No. Trash. Are you serious? Dude, go listen to So Many Roads, Summer of 95, The Last Tour.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Oh, man. There is one song in the world when i get instantaneous diarrhea just from hearing it is scarlet begonia fuck you luke i think you've you've proven that you're out of the music conversation all right luke uh where would you where would you rank corpse grinder among all of these vocalists yeah he's ahead of jerry garcia for sure. Dude, I could literally fart my way through a contest on, you know, the masked singer and beat the ghost of Jerry Garcia. Fuck Jerry Garcia. You don't know what you don't know, bro.
Starting point is 01:12:15 It's cool. Yeah, back at you, guy. Corpse grinder for life. All right, take it away, good sir. Time to have some fun. Oh, hey, let's laugh a little bit here. Here's what we do. We scour the globe.
Starting point is 01:12:24 We have a new person. I'm not do we scour this is we have a new person i'm not gonna out their name we have a new person working on production on this show she started literally on the worst fucking episode imaginable this is day one of her employment episode one of of the first show she's helping on yeah that's great and i'm like who are we talking about now what yeah uh so we scour theoured the globe, the highs and the lows, the good and the bad. On Combat Sports, Luke, and beyond, it is the greatest segment. Have you seen this shit? Let's go to UFC Fight Night in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:12:53 We start with your boy, Luke Featherweight, Giga Chikadze. Let's see that head kick one more time, Luke. The kickboxing. Wow. Look at that. Went to the body, then went to the head. Just classic. Luke, he didn't send him to hell.
Starting point is 01:13:06 He sent him to the barber, Luke. Okay? Right there. Yes. Don't hair shame people who are a little bit different than you and I. Is he a featherweight Gokan Saki, Luke? Is that who he is? Gokan Saki was like a heavyweight slash light heavyweight.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I know this is the featherweight Gokan Saki is what I'm saying. No, but Gokan Saki was a much better kickboxer and a much worse mma fighter yes that is true hey let's go to uh this deep on this undercard the heavyweight alex romanoff luke did you see how he celebrated his submission win but yeah with a lateral drop that's actually a real takedown it's called a lateral drop by putting his coach in a judo toss and then throwing the other guy. Oh, yeah. His coach there. What flag is that?
Starting point is 01:13:47 It looks like the Colombian flag. It's not, but. It looks Belarusian, right? Yeah, I think so. I had to look for a second there. Nice little lateral drop. He beat Marcos Rogerio de Lima, and now he's just slamming coaches. I'm in on this.
Starting point is 01:13:59 This is good. This is better than having people spit in a shoe and then, yeah. Wow, but you know what? I mean, UFC footage on the show, BC. Who would have thought would have thought you know well it's not pay-per-view and it's not a finish luke you're out here trying to build segments around finishes i mean we did just we did just watch a finish didn't we why don't you just yeah on a non-pay-per-view why don't you call up uh short time legal and start making pat tillman jokes all right luke all right here we go luke uh darren the damaged elkins did you pop for
Starting point is 01:14:25 his backpack submission here on luis eduardo garagori yeah i did actually it was nice push the hand down but body triangle switches up great grip to grip there does he have our lovsky potential luke where he's just going to be kind of a tough ass out and linger i'll say this he's not going to go away quietly yeah i don't know if it's exactly that way because he bleeds a lot more. Oh, God, yes. That's the thing about Arlovsky. He can't take a lot of damage anymore,
Starting point is 01:14:52 but here's the thing. He doesn't take a lot of damage. I mean, if he gets hit with one really good, hard, super hard, clean shot, it usually does the trick. Elkins is like shoe leather, man. He's great, except for the tattoo on his chest that says damage and and crooked uh yeah all right hey luke let's go over to uh featherweight ramiz
Starting point is 01:15:12 brahimi you mentioned his ear he almost lost it against max payne griffin that's disgusting luke yeah but you see how the ear itself the rim is still attached it's like cauliflower that came undone yeah that that looks like a horror movie it's very reminiscent luke did you ever see 2005 espn boxing antonio margarito against sebastian luhan the fight was stopped when luhan and the yellow uh had his ear sawed in half very similarly watch the turn we're gonna get here as referee david fields waves the fight off right about now the towel's thrown in yeah yeah that'll do it that is disgusting all right now hear this yep by the way i don't get i don't get disgusted by any of this i love it yeah that would that would uh that
Starting point is 01:16:00 would say a lot okay let's go let's roll on here uh let's go on to pbc on fox luke heavyweight luis ortiz very under the radar we didn't even talk about it he had a main event on fox luke he knocked out alexander flores in round one we thought it was a jab to the body if you watch the replay it's a clothesline he hit him in the face with his bicep and Flores was all on ice skates Luke this was shit dude yeah it sucked I mean I'm not you know look this is a shit main event to put on national television pbc on fox I love me some Luis Ortiz Alexander Flores ain't the opponent and this is a bicep to the face Luke this is just I don't know I don't know off the jab hand, no less. Yeah, that's bad. Um, luckily the women can do it better.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Let's go to a club boxing in South Carolina. Luke watch Carrie Holman. She's going to deliver a knockdown here to Rebecca laws. She fought the laws in, uh, the laws lost, but watch what happens when they restart Luke, uh, our girl Carly Holmanman gonna send this chick to oh my god ref let it stop let it go here we go luke just just wait oh buddy wow yep another one of these another one of these highlights we were like how flexible
Starting point is 01:17:25 is the human spine yep this is why we have ring ropes luke or she would have been into a dustbin dustbin on the on the floor all right let's move on hey boxing in malawi you know that african country malawi malawi malawi malawi vaguely. Here's Salimu Chizama. So he gets the knockout. I think these ropes are held together by Dental Floss, Luke. He gets the knockout, but then the manager comes running in. Oh, Luke, we got a melee. We got a melee.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Bro, these ropes are held together with a stick of gum and paper clips. Look at that ref. Look at the ref. He's like, I'm not getting paid for this shit. I'm out of here, bro. He's like, listen, I don't get paid enough in Malawi to be a referee. Fuck this. To get stabbed with an AIDS knife.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah, I'm not into that at all. Why does it have to be an AIDS knife? I tried to go to your playbook, and I felt bad as it was coming out. Yeah, it's a poor country. They've got some issues. This made it worse. Honestly, if you're going to be racist, be appropriately and accurately racist. It's like an Ebola knife or something, you know?
Starting point is 01:18:29 Oh, come on. All right. I will say this. The African nations are doing better with COVID than we are. They're kicking our ass on that. That is true. Shout out to Tim Boxeo right there on Instagram. He's watching every fight.
Starting point is 01:18:41 He's boxing's version of Kaposa. Luke, if you're not following him on Twitter and Instagram. Oh, I did not. So now I will follow him. Thank you. He's boxing's Grabatka Hitman. All right. Hey, Luke, let's go to Russia. Paris MMA. Sergey Karatov is back at 40, Luke. I saw this one. I saw this one.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Look at this. KO won against Oli Thompson, a former Bellator fighter. Oli Thompson, a competitive lifter as well yeah well somebody have to lift him up after this look wow yes looks like yeah actually bobbing for apples there look that was that dude honestly that is what i looked like twisting my ankle except less graceful yes look karatanov he just won a boxing match like two weeks ago this guy's uh he's eating well as you can see luke was he eating with you at those uh friday night pizza slices in jersey city you were after oh yeah oh yeah look i went to cumberland farms yesterday oh you know what the best thing is there
Starting point is 01:19:38 luke nothing seriously no the the you know on the roller right the cheeseburger stick it's a stick of beef that has cheese like injected inside of it oh god it's so good look it's so good you are an absolute disgrace to humanity all right hey speaking of disgraces look we're a few weeks old you and hitler well that's a pretty wide pretty wide gap there, okay? I mean, you know, me and... Listen, I'm not accusing you of the same crimes, but your crimes are also disgusting to me. Can we close that gap a little, like me and Paul Copenhaven? What's that guy's name?
Starting point is 01:20:18 War Machine? Copenhaver? I thought you were going to say Hulk Hogan for dropping multiple N-words, but that's a different thing. Oh, there you go. All right, Luke, sue me terry i don't know if you knew this but our old friend carol baskin showed up on dancing with the stars this season got voted off in the second episode check it out luke look at the look at the clothes who is who is this gentleman she is dancing with that is that is pasha i watch i don't normally watch my wife
Starting point is 01:20:45 and i are watching this season he's a pro dancer right yes he is she's in her you know 50s or 60s i mean she would i'll give her credit like jay in that music video she went for it luke she tried okay she looks like an extra in that movie the whiz you ever seen the whiz yes yes i have yes i have i just have to point out this was obviously a number of weeks ago And I do watch this program this season And she is probably one of the main reasons This costume is not One one hundredth as bad as the other one She came out
Starting point is 01:21:14 She came out in a full Tiger get up With her face painted like a tiger It was It was cringe Atrocious. Yeah, it was. What she's subjected herself to.
Starting point is 01:21:28 I defended her because the documentary makes a series of, like, not quite claims, but insinuations about her that when you actually try to verify them, there is no validity to them whatsoever. But I will say this. She's a fucking weirdo, bro. She's a homie. Kudos's a kudos to abc because abc through this show gave her a platform every package that she did like you know before they
Starting point is 01:21:52 come out and dance is like a little package of them getting ready they allowed her to sit there and cry on camera yeah about her kids being upset yeah to try to make her look like a like a hero yeah her range of motion was not there, so she's gone. But, Luke, you know, she's not our only friend that was ever on this show. Let's take a quick brief run through history. Remember Chuck Liddell in 2009, Luke? Oh, he was stiff as a board doing this shit, too. Look at this guy.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, I think he pulled something. Look, that is great. You know, he's moving a lot better here than in the third Tito fight, though. You got to give him that credit, Luke. Dude, why didn't they just have him break boards and shit? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:22:32 Yeah, yeah. This is... I mean, look, I'm going to give anybody credit for trying this. He should have just broken boards, and then the dancey part could have been like, he just moonwalked from one to the other, you know? Yeah, that's not good uh let's go over to floyd mayweather in 2008 i thought he actually had had you know a little bit
Starting point is 01:22:50 of game here i know his partner went on to rip him in a tmz video and say that he was awful but he's got he can move luke i mean it might be his history maybe his bad history of public headlines played into that but look he can move a little bit, Luke. He's not so bad. Yeah. All right. And then, you know, Evander Holyfield was there. We've seen other fighters. Most recently, Luke, 2016.
Starting point is 01:23:12 You remember this? You remember your girl Paige showed up? Well, wasn't she actually a dancer? At some point in life or some shit? Yeah, I think she actually had game. I wasn't watching back then, so whatever. Shout out to Paige. Hopefully no one cuts her face in the bare knuckle thing. This show has a bad history of putting actual dancers on the show
Starting point is 01:23:32 where you scratch your head and go, what is this competition? Yeah. Our show has a bad history of Jades popping in left and right here. All right. Hey, we have a bad history. Jay, get the fuck out of here. What are you doing? Oh, this is the worst episode.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Hey, Luke. I just want to point out, we just did half of Have You Seen This Shit with Jay just, comfortable Jay, just sauntering into the room. Hi, everybody.
Starting point is 01:23:57 I'm here. Hey, make myself at home. Hey, Flanders, you know, get lost. Here we go, Luke. Speaking of, speaking of dancing did you see Carlos Ulberg on the Dana White Contender Series on Tuesday I did look at how him and the folks from CKB celebrated Luke I did yeah yeah right the Bushwhackers there from City
Starting point is 01:24:20 Clip Boxing love those guys Luke love those those guys. You keep making these names up, they're going to have something for you. Probably a three-piece, a soda, Subway, Grindr, probably. Also on Dancing with Dana, the Contender Series, did you see this front kick from Ignacio Bahamondes, Luke?
Starting point is 01:24:39 I did. The Chilean sensation, boy. They had John Hennick on that call. Yeah, yes. The Chilean sensation, boy. They had John Hennick on that call. Yeah, he did. This kid looked great. He has the worst haircut since Lloyd Christmas, but he can fight his ass off.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I'd put that a little bit after Silva, Belford, and Machida, Couture. And didn't Belford get it done again by Machida? Yeah. Maybe, yeah. Those are the history of your front face kick knockouts. All right. Hey, Luke, let's go over to the – I don't know if this is rugby or Aussie rules football, but either way, this kid's about to get sent down deep, Luke.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Oh, yeah. You wanted a souvenir, kid? Maybe you should have brought your glove. Maybe the dad should have brought his baseball glove. Wow, look at this yes so does this count as a try is that what this count says i think it counts as a concussion luke actually all right all right uh let's let's check in luke on future ufc champion kevin lee's skull here's the latest luke your thoughts yeah i he's got the the new folding phone too it looks like you know there are people in my
Starting point is 01:25:49 dm saying that we should add you to dead wrong this week for trying to say that this this tattoo artist had skills no you can't he's very talented and I'll go to the mat for that but uh I don't even understand what it is I see the word life at the base of his neck. Okay. It's aggressive. It's aggressive. That's what it is, Luke. It tells people that I might kill you. I'll probably win a title because I'm crazy and fulfill the long-held prophecy that you and I separately have put out into the world.
Starting point is 01:26:19 But this is aggressive. Dude, can you imagine him taking that gun? I mean, for folks who may not know, a tattoo needle works like a threading needle on your skin, and getting all that heavy black put on your scalp like that, I can't even, you're rattling your fucking brain. That is crazy. Hey, I got a theory that he may actually fulfill his destiny now. Look, this shows me something in him, right? It's a real Anakin Skywalker, you know yeah revenge of the sith moment here god reggie jackson trying to get in there oh all right uh
Starting point is 01:26:52 let's go over let's go over to the street corner here's r kelly's dream girl check this out luke i was waiting for some prepubescent awful... And it was somehow better and worse at the same time, BC. Hey, let's stay in the street, Luke. Street fight of the week. It takes place at your local Subway. Remember Masvidal's three-piece in a soda, Luke? I think you get a bag of chips for this version.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Check this out. Oh, I've seen this one. Oh, yeah. Just knocking.... I've seen this one. Just knocking. Eat those sun chips. Yeah. Oh, this is the asshole you want to eat the sun chips? Take that, you juggalo-looking-ass bitch.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Hey, Luke, you love animal on human abuse, so check this out. There's a constipated elephant. So one of the zookeepers offered to try to relieve that pressure. Luke. God bless this elephant. Oh, my God. God bless this. Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Yes. This is me. This is me and you when we argue. Dude, there's a person working on this show for the first time, BC. And the last. And probably your last episode as well. How many HR complaints are we going to try to live through this week? Holy fuck. That is something.
Starting point is 01:28:25 That's a lot of shit right there. Dude, I mean, I've seen some Rocco Soffretti, you know, movies that have gone a little bit out there, but this. Wow. I think even Justine Kish is uncomfortable. Look, that's not good right there. Yeah, that is.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Is that Tim Sylvia? Who is that? Oh, stop that. Let's go tip to tip here, Luke. Check out this somebody sent this in of two horses drinking out of the same trough but it looks like two dudes rubbing dongs right kind of two dudes with pointy units i don't know i don't know what yours looks like but i can't say mine has quite that shape i won't show you mine no matter if
Starting point is 01:29:02 you'll show me yours all right. All right, there's that. And hey, you know that Portuguese soccer club SL Beifica, Luke? You mean Benfica? Benfica. They got guys going dick on dick here after goals. How about that, Luke? You need help. You need help.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Sorry, sorry, Luke. I thought we could laugh a little on this show. Let's close with this, Luke. Let's go to the gym. Here. Sorry, Luke. I thought we could laugh a little on this show. Oh, let's close with this, Luke. Let's go to the gym. Here's Asian Abuela. I don't think that's how that machine works, Luke. No, that's a shoulder lateral raise, and she's just thrusting into it. Is she warming up for Tai Chi?
Starting point is 01:29:41 Like, what the fuck is she doing? Does the Abuela at your house do this in the front yard while you're lifting or no? No. My mother-in-law and my wife think I'm absolutely batshit for lifting in the front yard. Thank you. See, I knew that they were my favorite members of your family,
Starting point is 01:29:55 along with Bugar, your cat. Moko. Moko. Moko, yes. All right. Look, that's the shit. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:30:03 End it. That's it. End it, Jay. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. All right. Time now That's the shit. That's it. That's it. And it and it Jay. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. All right. Time now for odds and ends BC. What do you got for odds and ends? Yes. So here's the deal. I just want to follow up quickly what we talked about with
Starting point is 01:30:13 you know, Canelo the biggest news of last week that happened during Friday's show. He's a free agent. He's been released from his network deal and from his promotional deal and certainly for Golden Boy promotions although they have Ryan Garcia, although they have Luis Ortiz Jr. Luke, I think this makes the idea of Oscar De La Hoya's comeback at 47, I don't know, more important than before in terms of the health of the company and having a legit draw.
Starting point is 01:30:36 The latest news from, I believe, Boxing Scene had the story is that he's talking behind the scenes negotiating that Marcos Maidana might be his comeback opponent. Now, let me frame this. Oscar's 47, Maidana's 38. We have not seen him since 2014 when he had the two pay-per-view fights on Showtime with Floyd Mayweather. The first one, very competitive.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Excuse me, maybe the closest we've seen Floyd to losing besides the Castillo fight. And he took that money, went back to Argentina and lived like a fat king. Luke, he's been threatening a return. I don't know. I'm kind of in on this. I've seen videos of Oscar hitting the bag. It's ill-advised at best for Oscar to come back.
Starting point is 01:31:19 And maybe it's ill-advised to fight a guy 10 years younger who's known for being a savage. But I'd be in. I would. And maybe for being a savage. But I'd be in. I would. And maybe, I don't know. I'd be in. I'd watch this shit, Luke. I'd be in on it a lot. I'm just waiting.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Dude, I've never encountered any fight where you're like, I'm not in. When are you not in? John Fitch. Yeah. No, I'm in on this though okay i am it's it's it's it's the kind of it's the it's the cheese this cheeseburger stick on the roller yes with the cheese inside yes i'm in on this thank you all right well for my uh odds and ends i will just say rest in power to the one and only alex trebek not really a combat combat sports nod we're doing on this particular episode, but, man, an absolute titan of the television industry. Really a big part of everyone's life if you grew up any point from 1984 on
Starting point is 01:32:16 was in homes and on the host of Jeopardy for 36 years before finally succumbing to pancreatic cancer in his home. I think not last night, but the night before that. We knew he had had cancer and was still trying to shoot television shows through it, but eventually succumbed. I just want to say, I mean, this guy was, there's so many things you could say about what he meant to people, but from just the television side of things,
Starting point is 01:32:41 to be on one show that lasts 36 years and your name is synonymous with the brand i mean you're talking about something that like you know a handful of people in the television industry ever achieve and he did it i feel for the person bc who's going to get this gig next because it's a wonderful gig but But try filling Alex Trebek shoes, man. Impossible. Sorry, Reggie Jackson just opened the door. He's here again. Impossible.
Starting point is 01:33:11 I figure in your house, you guys were pretty nerdy. This must be the equivalent of like Mr. Belding died on Saved by the Bell for me. So I can certainly feel what you might be feeling right now. I love that he fought it till the end, wanted to do as many shows as he could. A true icon. Luke, who should replace him? Do you have any idea who you would want? Should he be replaced?
Starting point is 01:33:29 I don't know. Are they going to do a daily show thing where they're like, we've had a white guy hosted for 40 years. Let's go something of a slightly different direction based on just that. Or are they going to find someone who's just like him or something?
Starting point is 01:33:41 I mean, who the hell? I mean, it's not, dude, I honestly do not envy the person trying to get that as you Carol Baskin the fucking screen during a tribute to a dead man. You fucking ape. This show's off the rails today, Luke. I mean, you are a fucking primate
Starting point is 01:33:55 in the most literal sense imaginable. Anyway, Alex Trebek. You know what? Take a look at these eyes. Hold on, hold on. Last thing, last thing. Alex Trebek. Tell MoCo what's up, all right?
Starting point is 01:34:04 Phenomenal career. Rest in power. And I'm glad that we got to enjoy as much of this man's time as we could. And there you go. That's it. Yes. Yes. Yo, I'm going to drive to Connecticut just to euthanize your pets.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Luke, this is an episode we'll never forget, okay? Hey, Sean Connery and Alex Trebek dying in the same week? Yes. Yes. Yeah, that's true. Sean Connery who played Alex Trebek on Saturday Night Live? Yeah, there is that. Jay, can you get off the fucking screen?
Starting point is 01:34:35 Yep. Nice. Jay's just like no chill right now this week, like Reggie right now. This is great, yeah. Yeah, Reggie. Also, I see your cat like my cat doesn't have. Let me see. Hold him up there
Starting point is 01:34:47 like he's the lion king. Like, ah, Sadigwa. You know, that thing. Let's see. He's a handsome boy. He's the best. I love this guy. He's a handsome boy.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Also, you're Carol Baskin, Don't tell the other animals that he's my favorite, all right? All right, you're a fucking loser. All right, if you want more of Brian and I's inane ramblings about jobs that we shouldn't have because we're unprofessional douchebags, you can get some of that on social, at LThomasNews on Twitter, at Luke Thomas.
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Starting point is 01:35:56 And let's see, BC, we're going to talk to Teofimo Lopez today, right? Oh, hey, reveal that. Yeah, big interview to come later today. Teofimo Lopez, Jr., got WWE Hall of big interview to come later today teo fema lopez jr got wwe hall of famer kevin nash later today what a what a week what a week what a brand what a show this might be this might not be most representative luke of what we're capable of this this episode it'll go down in infamy uh like like pearl harbor luke but um i've enjoyed it and and should we tease that other thing Luke? It's real. There's a documentary being made
Starting point is 01:36:27 about our return to the studio. That is I hear it's moving. I hear it's moving. That's what I hear as well but I guess we'll see it when he gets here. I'm not skeptical but I'm a little bit cautiously optimistic. This week Luke.
Starting point is 01:36:41 This week I hear it. That's what they say. That's what they say. We'll see. We'll see. But that's it for us for brian i'm luke thanks everyone at showtime thanks everyone to mocha as well as cbs sports tons of content coming your way back live wednesday and until then may all of your gains be loyal Thank you. We'll be right back. We'll see you next time.

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