MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Schedule Announcement | Ronda Rousey UFC Comments | Francis Ngannou Legacy

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

Luke Thomas welcomes in Danny Segura on a Friday edition of Morning Kombat to go over all the recent news in combat sports. First, the UFC made some big scheduling announcements Thursday, including Kh...amzat Chimaev defending the Middleweight title against Sean Strickland at UFC 328. There were a string of several more fights announced like Aljamain Sterling vs. Youssef Zalal at UFC Vegas 116 and a co-main event between Beneil Dariush and Quillan Salkilld at UFC Perth. Plus, Ronda Rousey had some harsh words for the UFC at her kickoff event with Gina Carano. LT and Danny discuss all of this and more as the MK crew gets you ready for the weekend!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Revely, revelry. Look at this now. It's what 11 a. Combat. Oh, very good. You fit in seamlessly in this weird MK environment.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Do you want a margarita? Do it. Two, three, two, three. That's it. On your marks get set and go on. Like a horny French waiter. Oh, what's up, everyone? How are you doing here on this, uh, Friday the 13th? That's ominous here on morning combat. Welcome, everyone into today's show. We have a lot to get to. My name is Luke Thomas.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I join you from the capital of Estabas Finneed right here in Washington, D.C., joined by my friend. He is, uh, well, a bit a while since he's been on the show, actually, as a matter of fact. I think we had you on in studio last time, if I recall, from MMA junkie, from Miami, Florida. it's my friend and yours. It's Danny. Welcome back. Good sir. Thank you. Pleasure being here. Always a pleasure to talk to M.A. with you. I promise I'll do my best to sneak in as many dick jokes as possible in honor of Brian Campbell. But, you know, just keep the expectations fairly low. Take it easy on. How is South Florida treating you, Danny? Give us an update. How are things? It's good. Everything's good. Weather's great. It hasn't been too hot, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Apart from being on the verge of World War III, life is good down here, man. Life is always good in sunny Miami. Yes, it certainly is. And we have a busy show to get to today, not about the war in the Middle East. And instead, some funner topics, I hope. A gigantic slate of fights were announced last night. We're going to go piece through peace through all of them. We're also going to react to some of the news that we missed following Monday's MK,
Starting point is 00:02:07 related to that Ronda Rousey Gina Carrano Presser, which would include Francis Inganu. Hello, we got fights tomorrow as well. UFC Fight Night Josh Emmett taking on Kevin Vajajos. We'll talk about that as well and some other smaller stories kind of circulating around the sport. Thumbs up if you're watching here on YouTube. Please hit subscribe and of course you can see down here all of our social channels.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Danny, do you prefer a Twitter follow or I guess an X follow or an IG follow? What's your preference? Probably an IG follow at this point like Twitter. I use it just because I kind of have to, but both would do or either. I don't care. Dude, if I got permanently banned from Twitter, it might be the happiest day of my life. Twitter sucks. And by way, I'm thankful that you're still calling a Twitter because I still do.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Even my Slack channel or I'm always like, oh, I posted this on Twitter, this and that. Fuck X. Yeah, man. Elon destroyed Twitter. It used to be a fun little platform now, not so much. I got like so many tabs for you, most. popular most recent. Bro, I just want, give me a timeline of who I follow and that's it. I don't want anything else.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Yeah, I mean, if you want to see Nazi rhetoric or people getting shot at gas stations, boy, Twitter's got you covered. It's quite the site. All right, so you can go there. If you want to reach the show, Morningcombat at Gmail.com, that'll be for dead wrongs. That'll be for fan subs. That'll be for, you want to talk to Long Island Luke or whoever's checking the email account because it sure is hell ain't me.
Starting point is 00:03:35 You can do that. Morningcombat at Gmail.com. but let's not forget morning combat dot shop for your merch this month we have the trasher I'm putting up air quotes for that here on this t-shirt and hoodie march exclusive this is the only one we're doing by the way a t-shirt and hoodie combo for certainly this month and of course all these designs come to us from our friend average joe art here's the delta eight one we'll keep or actually we'll light it up for you you can see there and then certainly who can forget about the many times we've had the mcdonald's Wi-Fi that one that one that
Starting point is 00:04:08 made me laugh when I first saw this one. All of these are available only until March 30. 1st until 11.59 p.m. in the east or while supplies last. Danny, we'll plug it a little bit later on the show as well. But off the top, when you promote your, if I had to ask you where to get your content, just on junkie, or like, what do you tell people when they ask that question? Yeah, mainly all my English language content is on M.A. Junkie. I did start making some content on. my personal YouTube channel in English-wise. And then I do obviously Spanish language content or out, Ableemos M.A. So, you know, just follow me on social media.
Starting point is 00:04:48 You'll get all of it. But yeah, kind of that's how I split. All right. Very good. I think that's all of our basis cover to open the show. We have a lot to get to today, even for a Friday show. So without further ado, let's get to it. Now, as we intro this topic, as we get these things started, you know that we have to thank our friends over at Cuervo.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Coro is taking good care of us here on MK for a long time. We love their stuff. We use it for all, for example, we enjoy it responsibly. And enjoy, you should always enjoy it responsibly. We enjoy it responsibly during our pregame previews. And I want to talk about this gigantic slate of fights, but I want to talk about the crown jewel of what got announced. And so what we're going to do is we're going to talk about that May 9th, UFC 328 main event.
Starting point is 00:05:36 we're going to do it with our friends from Cuervo. We're calling it what we're mixing up. And of course, for every round, keep it fun, keep it Cuervo. This is, of course, what we will have for the pregame preview coming up, by the way, next month. Again, enjoy responsibly, but we'll have this a little bit later in the month, one of our favorites here that we use on the show. Okay, with that in mind, as we get this segment going here, Danny Seguera, let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Now, I'm going to go slightly out of chronological. order, but I wanted to go with what I thought was the biggest announcement that came from UFC President Dana White last night, as well as you had Michael Bisping on the panel, as well as Brendan Fitzgerald. Actually, real quick on that, if I may, I actually liked that they had a much better presentation for a big announcement around the amount of fights that they had. I still thought it was kind of interesting. They'd be like, Brendan would be like, hey, Dana, what's the big fight?
Starting point is 00:06:32 And he would announce it. and then Bisping would immediately get tagged in to do all of the analysis. So like it was definitely, definitely, definitely to me, a better effort, Danny. But it was still pretty clear that Dana doesn't know what's happening in the UFC. Like you see, I'm being a good co-host here, you know, as you say things, I'm smiling, I'm nodding, I'm looking at the camera. Dude, Dana White was like dosing off and just had a face that he just wanted to get out of their ASAP.
Starting point is 00:07:01 like Michael Bispin would be all hyped and this fight's awesome and this guy's fighting and Dana White would be sitting like that. I don't know if we have a shot like a screenshot of him, but the dude looked so disinterest. He looked way more happy in anina drama stream than announcing his own fights and his own main events for the upcoming cards that the USC will be hosting. But yeah, that was very notable. But to your point, it was better than an Instagram live. I guess we'll get into this, obviously deeper into the show, but the UFC and specifically Dana White, They've been having a rough week, man. A lot of people taking shots at them.
Starting point is 00:07:35 They're getting attacked from all fronts. And I think if they would have rolled out another lifeless Instagram live with Dana White just reading off a piece of paper and stumbling his words, dude, that would have been such a terrible week. They had to do something big. They did announce good fights. And they did it in a studio, which looked a lot better. But yeah, this was a must, the least they could do. Room for improvement, let's say.
Starting point is 00:08:00 All right, let's talk about the fight. The big one, May 9th in Newark, New Jersey. This, of course, will be on Paramount Plus at the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey, where I nearly got stabbed one time, shouts to Newark. All right, Hamzot Chimayev taking on Sean Strickland. Now, we know the setup on this one, Danny. Chimayev's kind of been waiting for a fight. He was out the first and not quite, I guess not quite the second quarter of the year,
Starting point is 00:08:25 but certainly wasn't available right at the beginning of it. They weren't going to put a guy like this in all likelihood on the White House card certainly against an opponent like this. The big question on everyone's mind is, A, do you love the fight? Like, where, what's your enthusiasm level for it? Cards on the table? I'm not going to sit here and pretend I don't like the fight. I like the fight.
Starting point is 00:08:42 The only big question is, what are they going to do with Nassardine Imov? And we'll talk about the breakdown on the main event itself in just a second, but the big question was, hey, didn't hemov have like a five-fight win streak? Wasn't this the guy that had put together a big, long, nice win streak? Where, on the other hand, certainly will all agree
Starting point is 00:09:00 at UFC Houston, Sean Strickland performed very ably, but it does feel like he's jumping the queue. Where do you come down on the UFC's decision to slot in Strickland in this main event role? Oof, this is such a tough topic, and I was kind of discussing this last night in a live reaction on my Spanish channel. But, you know, for the most part, like I, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:24 I'll give the UFC, you know, some criticism when they skip over a rightful contender and they just make a fight because it's either, you know, more appealing to the fan base or because they have a better relationship with the fighters, etc. But this is one of those odd cases where merit-wise, I mean, there's no arguing that Nasra-Dembao deserves the opportunity, but the better fight is Strickland. And if, you know, as a customer, as a fan, just putting my journalist's role aside, looking at the fight, like if I had to pay, and again, we're not in Paperview era anymore, but if I had to pay 50 bucks to watch Strickland versus Hamzot or Strickland versus,
Starting point is 00:10:08 sorry, or Hamzaa versus Imov, I'm paying for the Strickland Homestep fight. I do think the buildup is going to be a lot more interesting, even though it might get a little weird in some territories. But the fight is interesting. I do think Strickland poses the more interesting threats. And this is all around the bigger fight. And in an era where the UFC has been pretty shitty and the product has been very boring and bland over the last couple of years, this is nice. There is some hype. I'm hyped about this.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I'm excited about this. So sorry, Nasir Demi Mowov. He definitely deserves the opportunity. But over Strickland, this is the better fight. I basically agree. I mean, I don't know what the right answer is in this particular equation because somebody's going to get done wrong. And what I mean by that is, if they had gone, Danny, with the Imovov fight, okay, did you give it to the guy who'd done the most work to get the fight?
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yes, you did. On the other hand, I think a lot of folks would be saying, well, now what are we going to do with Sean Strickland? And also, are we really going to give up? I mean, there are not that many organic kind of real feuds in modern MMA or modern UFC. This is an example of one. This is a real feud. The guys used to train together. They have real bad blood.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I agree with you. I think that the, dude, that media week is just going to be ignorant. I mean, it's, and out of all places in New York, New Jersey, I think it's just perfect. It's, it's going to be ignorant and, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:38 whatever, but the point being is, is there more heat on this? Is there more interest in this? And not for nothing, but like the other problem that he mavavov faces here is, I'm not saying that Sean Strickland Danny is the guy to beat Hamzot. Maybe he will. I don't know. I think
Starting point is 00:11:58 Hamzot's going to come. Long Island, Luke, I didn't even introduce you at the top of the show. I apologize for that. Please forgive me. I was trying to get right to the program. Thanks a lot, bro. Rocking the new merch and everything. Sorry about that. My bad, brother. You are the third member of the show here. Sincerest apology. So thank you for being here. MVP, if ever there was one. All right. With that in mind, oh, go, come back, come back. I have a question for you. Do we have early odds on this particular matchup? I could look right now. Let me check.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah, please do, because I'd be curious to know. would imagine, Danny, that that a guy like Chimai of is going to be the favorite, no matter if it's Imovov or if it's Strickland. But the other problem here is that like, dude, Strickland's take down defense, not for nothing, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. And again, is that enough to beat Chameh. Let's see what of the odds say?
Starting point is 00:12:41 From our friends at Draf Kings, Chimaya minus 410, Strickland plus 320. Okay. They don't have to be competitive, but this is the problem. This is the problem. I don't think Imovov is more competitive relative to Strickland against Chimayev. Do you agree? 100%. 100%.
Starting point is 00:13:02 So, yeah, this on top of like, you know, from media, from media perspective and bus perspective, like the buildup is going to be way more entertaining and way more interesting than Imau. But the fight itself, like the mechanics of the fight, because usually when you skip a rightful number one contender, as we've seen the case of Imav, you're true. trading hype for a better fight. And that's where I have my issue. Like, F the, the hype, that always comes secondary. F the press conference. I rather get a proper quality fight than a shitty fight, but a really good press conference, which was my issue with the interim lightweight title. But in this case, not only are you trading more hype, but you're also trading for
Starting point is 00:13:43 the more competitive fight, at least on paper. I agree 100% with you. Strickland poses the better threats and the more interesting challenge for Shemite. Are you at all, and I'm being serious, about here. Are you a little bit worried about the fight week? A little bit, but I don't know if I've become desensitized to just bigotry and just like, you know, messed up stuff. But because of MMA, I'm constantly exposed to people just saying horrible shit to each other 24-7. But it is the fight game. So, you know, again, I don't, I'm not going to agree with probably like 100% of the stuff that's going to be being said, but it is a fist fight. And I don't know about you, Luke, but the UFC has been so uniform in all these events and everyone has been like so professional.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I kind of miss like a John Jones Daniel Cormi. I kind of want to go into a fight week with the feeling that there might be a fight before the actual fight. That's exciting to me as a fight fan. So I share your concerns about the stuff being said. Certainly not a good look on the sport, but man, this sport has taken so many else in terms of. of, you know, how it looks to the wider audience. We're having, you know, an event at the White House in the middle of a war and in the middle of, you know, one of the most controversial administration. So am I super worried about this?
Starting point is 00:15:07 No, I think this is one of the least of my worries. But yeah, but yeah. My basic view is if they have the requisite amount of security, it should be fine, you know. I just hope that they're ready for that kind of a challenge. Logan Island Luke, where are you on this question? Imovov and Strickland, did you have seen make the right call? Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it. Like, Danny's right.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Like this will be fun. It'll be a fun buildup, whatever. Imavov, it was, no one was going to care about it. On fight night, great. It's a good fight. It's number one contender, but like, part of me does feel like Imavavov might have a better chance to beat Hamzaa, but that doesn't mean it's a more interesting fight.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Does that make any sense? Like, I feel like he has a chance. but I still don't want to see it. I don't really care. I think this is the right move. Yeah. The other thing I'll say, too, is, you know, Strickland's ability to get a hothead like Chameh
Starting point is 00:16:01 off of his game should not be discounted either, right? He's a guy who'll just say insane shit. And Chimai of not for nothing is not especially restrained or disciplined. I wonder if that might play a role come fight night as well. Let's put up, Danny, let's put up the big graphic here if we can for the entire card for this UFC 328. And we've been talking about this main event, Hamza Tchamaya versus Sean Strickland.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Let's get to some of the other portions of this car, because you actually have a lot of fights to get to here. So I'll read them out. Alexander Volkov is going to take on Waldo Cortez-A-Costa in the co-main. Sean Brady versus Joaquin Buckley got moved out of the apex into this card, which I think adds a ton of value to it. I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I did not, I don't need to see the rematch between Belhovic and Goosekov. They're going to do it anyway. I like it. Okay, we'll come to you in just a second. And then King Green versus Jeremy Stevens, another fight I definitely do not hate. However, it made me go, wait, what year is this? So rate this card for me and walk me through
Starting point is 00:17:02 what you think some of the highlights and low lights are. I'm high for this card. I like it. Given the standard has dropped a little bit, I'll give it a, I'll give it a nine out of ten, man. Wow. I think it's very good. I love the main event.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I love the common event. Then the rest of the fights on the card are relevant. which is the main thing I ask for the UFC. Like how many fights do we sit through week in, week out, where we're just wondering what the hell does this mean, right? Like all these fights are relevant. All these fights have in some sort of way, title implications. Obviously, the main event being a championship fight.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Co-man event definitely has title implications. And the rest of the card involves ranked fighters. So this is a very relevant car and very well match-made. Let's talk about that co-made event. In the case of Volkov, I feel like he's a guy who got cheated by gone. or at least by the authorities in the chart, not so much gone himself, but you get the idea.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And then I really want that to be rectified. On the other hand, how do you not get behind the momentum of Waldo Cortez-A-Costa, who's just been dealing for, even with some setbacks in the last year, actually, nevertheless, managed to overcome them and then some two guys in my judgment
Starting point is 00:18:11 who would be fine to get title shots. I just feel like for Volkov, Danny, the speed and the athleticism of Cortez-A-Costa might be a little, much, no? Yeah, 100%. I don't know what the odds are, but I would assume Waldo is the favorite. And, yeah, Waldo's awesome. Waldo is sneaky good. People don't really give them that much credit, but he's one of the more technical strikers in the heavyweight division. He's got a really, really nice jab. And, you know, I've interviewed him a lot. I've interviewed his coach as well a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And, you know, his coach is enamored with Waldo's reflexes as well. And that's something that I feel like people don't talk about often. Yeah, he's got power yet. He's got nice striking, but his reflexes are amazing. And I think that comes from, you know, his time playing baseball. The dude, you know, has great head movement. He rarely gets like hit clean. He's a very, very good fighter, man. And I think that he can post, you know, he's a serious threat to the title. Right now he's kind of not exactly in a Derek Lewis territory, but I think he's kind of seen a little bit in that light where it's just a fun knockout artist. But what you're trying to do. out for him. I wouldn't be surprised if he gives
Starting point is 00:19:20 the champion, whoever that ends up being in the future, some trouble. Are you watching the World Baseball Classic at all? No, just everybody tripping out on social media. I do like that. I can see why he did not excel through the ranks of the Dominican team. It's one Terminator
Starting point is 00:19:36 after another on that squad. It's insane how good they are. Okay. The fight that I think is just the non, or the main event obviously is your crown drill, whatever. But the fight that I care beyond that the most. That's Sean Brady-Wakene Buckley fight. I love this fight. This to me reminds me a little bit of what we were talking about with the case of RDR versus Kyle Bajlio, two guys
Starting point is 00:19:57 who were kind of looking to get right and needed it. Here's a perfect example of that. Buckley showing tremendous weakness in the grappling relative to Camaro Oussman. Sean Brady just couldn't get anything going against Morales, not necessarily some kind of horrible loss in either case, Danny, in the sense of you're not losing to scrubs, but the losses were very authoritative in both cases. is this is a get right fight. Who do you lean towards early in this one? I'm going to go Sean Brady. But this is a tricky fight.
Starting point is 00:20:30 This is a tricky fight. I didn't really like the way Sean Brady reacted to some of the shots that before he actually got caught against Morales. And, you know, I'm not saying that Buckley has the same power, but I think he could do some similar things, throw some wild shots, throw some heat. And, you know, I am. concerned about sort of that response. But I do think the better fighter overall is Sean Brady, and he should take this one. Now, you like this Blahovich-Guskov fight. To me, this is the one-
Starting point is 00:20:58 by the way. Buscoff is awesome. The light heavyweight division sucks, man. But this is a fighter that goes out there. First of all, he has a cool look to him. Like, he looks bad ass. He goes out there. He fights. He's technical, but he also likes to brawl. And that fight against Blahowich was a fun fight. And it ended in a majority draw, I believe. F it, running. it back. How many fun fights can you make at 205? Not many. So if I have to rewatch it just to get a fun fight out of 205, I'm down.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Not for me. I will say, though, King Green versus Jeremy Stevens, it's just very hard to see how that sucks. It's very, very difficult. It's King Green. This is not a paper view fight, though. Come on. Which one? King Green versus Jeremy Stevens. I agree. I agree. I don't want to fight. I like
Starting point is 00:21:42 but but this, but like I don't I don't have some visceral negative reaction to it. It's a, it's a fun. I kind of do, man. People were coming at me for defending the White House card. I think this card is kind of shit. This is like a six out of time. Really? Really? That's crazy. The top three fights are good. I'm with you, Luke. I have like, Danny, you made a good point that light heavy weight does suck. So like sure, run that fight back. But I'm still not like, whoa, I'm hyped to see the Blahovychov two. And then King Green Jeremy Stevens should be like maybe the featured prelim at best. You know, like definitely on the
Starting point is 00:22:15 prelims, maybe the featured prelim. You need one more like, solid top 15 fight. I agree with that. I agree with that again. When I saw that they put King Green versus Jeremy Stevens, I was like, bro, is this 2007? What year is this? It's just kind of weird. Also like, King Green just beat Daniel Zellhuber. Why are you now like downgrading him to Jeremy Stevens? I get it's a name, but it's like he should kind of be working his way up in the rankings, not against nah. You're, I don't know, man. King Green is not going to be champion. Just put him in some fun fights for whatever remains of his career. I'm with you on that. He's almost 40 years old. I'm with you on that, but why, why Jeremy? Jeremy's,
Starting point is 00:22:50 Jerry bangs, bro. He's the hardest hitting 45 or not fighting. I tell that he's almost 40 years old. Yeah. Tell that to Mason Jones who wrestled fucked him for 15 minutes. I mean, he's not the same. He's not the same Jeremy. He's also under 500 in the UFC, if I'm not mistaken. He's like 15 and 16.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Sneaky record, though. Sneaky record, I always say. Like, it doesn't do justice to what he brings in terms of MMA quality and violence. I'm a Jeremy Stevens fan, man. And I like Bobby Green as well. So I think that fight bangs. and it's a good fight to open up the card. Here I am defending the UFC.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yeah, yeah, it'll happen. You'll catch me doing it time and time and again. All right. Also, in that car, very... And I didn't get to my wedding. Yeah, that's right. Also, adding to the card, not main card, but I think it'll obviously be added to the overall fight card.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Ateba Gautier, who won his last fight, but looked a little green taking on Ozzie Diaz. I'm going to guess that's going to be the featured prelim. I just want to say one more time. Big thanks to our friends at Cuervo. It's what we're mixing up, presented by Cuervo for every round. Keep it fun. Keep it Cuervo. We'll see you guys back in studio for the pregame preview the week of, I think, April 11th. So we'll be back there. That'll be a good time.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Let's talk about some of the other announcements. Put up the Bronze Steder tweets if we can, Long Island Luke. Let's check those out here. Now, this is what they, there's a bunch of stuff they added that we talked about the Crown Jewel part. Here are some of the other ones. So that co-made event that's going to be in Winnipeg. That's the Mike Malat on the Gilbert Burns main event. Charles Jordan taken on Kyler Phillips. That's a fun fight. Al Jermaine Sterling versus Yusuf Zalalal is going to headline at the apex the following week. That is a hell of a fight. We'll talk about that in just a second here. And then Benile Darius taking on Quill and Saul killed. Also, by the way, a really, really, really good co-main event. That's going to be on that JDS Carlos Prochess main event.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Let's talk about very quick. Oh, here's, we'll come back to that. We'll come back to that. So let's talk now about the Al Jemaine Sterling, Yusuf Zalaa. Not much to dislike here. You can argue, Danny, hey, should a fight like this have maybe been on a bigger card or whatever? Like, you can, I think, argue about where they put it and what that means. But just as a fight itself, Yusuf Zalaal is one of the most, I won't say surprising, but resurgent cases of fighter growth I've ever seen, certainly in the featherweight division.
Starting point is 00:25:12 they've had a lot of good guys, but more recently to do that kind of a thing, versus Al Jemaine Sterling's sort of known quality still hunting for a title. Do you share my enthusiasm for this contest? Yeah, I love this fight. Yusuf Salah is the Dark Horse in that division. He's great. As you mentioned, he's had an incredible comeback. And I do disagree a little bit with you in terms of this fight being on a bigger event.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I do think a main event spot for a fight night. I think it's proper. I don't think it's improper for that. What I'm saying is I'd rather this be on the May pay-per-view card than Jeremy Stevens versus King Green. You know what I mean? Right. That's kind of more than that.
Starting point is 00:25:52 King Green and Jeremy Stevens on the main event of a UFC apex card. I'm just saying we should have less events. You know what I mean? That's fair. That's fair. I don't disagree that like it serves that role. Like there's no way to look at it and be like, oh, this doesn't serve what they're trying to do.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I get that for it. What is your sense of how these two match up, Sterling and Zal? I do think Salaal is way better striker than Sterling. I think in the grappling, it's going to be very even. I do think Sterling has a superior backtake. So I wonder if he's able to get to that position. I think it's going to be a rap and he's going to be there for the entirety of the round. I don't know if he subs Salal, but I think he can steal around or two that way.
Starting point is 00:26:43 You know, if I'm Salal's team, I'm looking to keep this fight standing and minimize the 50-50s in the grappling department. And if I'm Aljim and Sterling, I'm looking to drag this fight to the ground because I think there's a clear speed advantage and a technical advantage on the feet. So in favor for Salal, obviously. So, yeah, it's more or less how I see it. And I also feel like, honestly, UFC is kind of looking at this and being like, Aljo, if you're going to move up to title contention in this division,
Starting point is 00:27:09 we got to see what you got right now. You know what I mean? Like this is, if Zalalal wins this, it basically closes the door for Sterling. I would argue potentially even permanently at 145. By contrast, if he goes up there and gets the job done and looks particularly good against Solal,
Starting point is 00:27:25 I think that completely changes his fortune. So a huge bout of consequence, for Zalalal, definitely, but really what's left of the UFC career of Sterling. Is it going to be fun fights or are you actually going to make a move to the title? This is going to be one of those kind of very decisive moments in the course of his career. Let's go back to some of these announcements if we can here on the screen, Long Island. So this is another one. Arnold, we'll talk about it. Arnold Allen taken on Milky Costa,
Starting point is 00:27:54 May 16th main event at the apex, that's a phenomenal fight. Then in Macau, China, I think this is, you know, it's whatever. Song-a-dong taken on Devison-Figuero is your main event. It makes sense for Macau. I get it. Jean Mingyang, I think the snow leopard, taken on Alonzo Menefield, fine, whatever. Sergei Pavlovich versus Talasin Tashara,
Starting point is 00:28:13 I don't quite get as other than just like a banger for as long as it lasts. And then Belal Mohammed versus Gabriel Bonfim, your June 6th main event, Mountain Tiger, not snow leopard, excuse me. I knew it was one of the, I knew it was one of the big cats in nature. Okay, so let's talk about that Arnold Allen versus Milky Costa fight. Love it. Costa on a tear, been on a tear for a while. started this year. First guy to stop Dan Ege. Arnold Allen, always good against everyone,
Starting point is 00:28:41 except the very, very best, right? So this is another one of those fights, Danny, where it's like, Arnold, what do you really have left? And for Melke, he could easily just break through with a win like this. 100%. Dude, Melky Costa's awesome. He's got a bit of everything. He's dangerous everywhere. I'm a big fan of this guy. And Arnold Allen has, you know, he's never, You know, whenever he's had the chance to, you know, become sort of the man in the division and really cement himself as, as the threat to the title, he hasn't been able to sort of turn that corner, right? He's always kind of lingered around being between, you know, seven and five in the division. And he's never been able to, like, really get in there and step through into the top five rankings. So I think much like we were discussing in the use of Solol-Fite in Algeman Sterling, this is a similar scenario where it's like Arnold,
Starting point is 00:29:35 like he's still young enough where he can do something. But he's also old enough where, you know, time's running out and, and he doesn't have much left. So I think this is it. This is a do or die for him. If he's going to make a run for the title and really turn that corner, he's got to beat Costa here. And Costa, again, a big fight for him, but not as consequential, very similar to the stakes that Solal has where, you know, if he loses, is not the end of the world. Certainly not good, but not the end of the world for his career. But if he wins, man, I mean, all of a sudden he's a protagonist and he's a main figure in that division.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Your reaction to the UFC Macau card, I want to be clear, I'm not going to sit up here and be like, oh, it's the worst thing I've ever seen. It's a fight night card. It's in Macal. I'm not really sure what to make of it. The issue for me is Songa Dong and Deveson Figuerado's two guys who we both would probably agree are very capable fighters. But it feels like their stock has been deflated. And so you're getting two guys with deflated stock at the same time, which sometimes can be interesting. but in a main event role,
Starting point is 00:30:35 I don't have a strong reaction to it one way or the other, I suppose. Yeah, with these regional cards, I cut them some slack because for me, for example, and I'd like to get Long Island, Long Island Luke's opinion as well, but like, for example,
Starting point is 00:30:47 every year when the UFC goes to Mexico, since I, you know, follow closely all these Latin American fighters, for me, it's always a good card. But I always hear the criticism that this card sucks, this card sucks. So I think internationally, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:01 it doesn't have a bit of, a big appeal, but because we don't have that local experience, right? But I'm sure people in China, you know, follow all these guys closely and, or from the area. And, and they think this is a good card. So I always want to, want to respect the regional aspect of it. And I think, you know, we used to criticize, or at least me personally, we used to criticize the UFC on like not, you know, putting fighters in their markets. Like, why is this guy fighting, you know, in Canada, when his hometown fight is in two weeks or whatever. But lately they've been doing a good job.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Like look at the Canada fight, look at this card, look at this card as well, look at the Mexican card. They do a good job at catering to the audience that's present. And only one thing that I want to point out, which is kind of weird, I don't know how you feel about it. I believe all four fighters in the main and Komen event, they're all coming off losses. Hell yeah, brother.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Hell yeah. Why wrong? So, by the way, on that UFC, Mexico, Mexico. card you're talking about that was the first card all year where there wasn't a single pair that were coming both guys were coming off of wins or ladies there was at least one person in that equation that was coming off of a loss yeah god i love monopolies huh yeah i'm like i've been warning people but okay put in that aside and then last but not least the bala mohamma versus gabriel bonfim but of a disparity in the rankings there bahama kind of giving bonfim a little bit of
Starting point is 00:32:27 a boost here in terms of what's possible for him. I don't know how I'm supposed to feel about this main event. It's like Muhammad should probably win, and I don't know where that leaves us. Bonfim has some skills that I do think are better than Belal, but Belal is also kind of criminally underrated. Maybe Belal's not the best guy at 170 pounds, but he's better than a lot of the guys. I suspect that Gabriel is that one. My feeling on this fight, Danny, is that they probably tried to make a different fight and they
Starting point is 00:32:55 couldn't, and this was the replacement one. That's what this one looks like to me. Yeah. Out of all the fights, I do agree with you. I have an issue with this fight. How the fuck did they not make Kamaro Usman versus Bilal Mohammed? Like how is that not possible? That is a whole...
Starting point is 00:33:09 Camaro must have turned it down. That is a fight to make. Well, he's not... He's already... I understand Bilal not... Sorry, Kamar Usman not wanting to take the fight because he was kind of in the running for that World Trade title fight against Islamakashiv. But since, even him...
Starting point is 00:33:24 Like, he himself, I'm not talking about other sources or whatever. he's kind of throwing it out there that or making it seem like they've already passed them over that and he's not getting that opportunity and it's between Michael Morales and Ian Machao Gary. So, dude, if you know you're not going to get the Islamakash fight, fight a former champion. That's the next best thing. And you got beef with Bilal Mohammed. You can get wins over, you know, walking Buckley and Bilal, you know, pair of those. Then maybe you can go for a title fight.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I don't know. For me, that was a home run. and I guess, yeah, maybe the UFC tried to make it and they couldn't, as you said. But, yeah, I have an issue with this fight. It's not the fight that excites me almost. One thing that we should also add, PFL made an announcement. By the way, there's some other ones that we didn't even get to. Rat Garbage is back.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I'm taking on Jai Herbert. That's kind of fun. Landovanada versus Darius Flowers. That'll be on April 4th. If you give a fuck and I don't, Marching Taibora, taking on Tyrell Fortune. That's to be on the UFC Seattle card. However, we also did get one announcement from PFL of all places.
Starting point is 00:34:29 We can put the graphic up here on the screen. Dovlitz Dan Yajshamuradov, who was in the initial folks, might remember the Bellator Light Heavyweight tourney taking on UFC veteran Tyson Pedro. I got to say, this will be in that Belfast card. Long Island. Not a bad fight. That's my boy, Tyson Pedro. Let's fucking go.
Starting point is 00:34:51 He's probably going to lose. but yeah it'll be a fun fight i'll watch it yeah moradoff he's nothing special but he ain't bad either it's a weird time that card it says thursday i don't know if that's local in belfast or our time like either way but i i think it's going to be catered to them so it'll probably be like thursday morning or time bro and pfl pfl will be like oh here's how you watch you know fold your hands and then look inside and you might just see the magic of the pfl it's like it's like dude how do you watch pfel i don't know, find your kids diorama project, you know, at school or whatever the fuck. Like, you never know which next PFL event is going to be on your phone.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I mean, it's just, it's just fucking insane. But okay, putting that aside. The matchmaking and this fight speaks of it has been okay lately, right? We've gotten some interesting fights. I'm excited about, we weren't even talking about it, but like they've got two events this month. I think one next week and then the one, like the last week. bro, these are good-ass fights they've got lined up. I'm excited about it.
Starting point is 00:35:52 It's just the inconsistency with them is really, really annoying. I'll put it that way. All right. Let's go to topic number two if we can. So this happened after Monday's MK. I know a lot of other shows have kind of already had the chance to wait on it, but it's Friday. So we're going to do this here on MK today.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Namely, there was the kind of an official kickoff presser for Netflix's Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carano event. And those two were there. Jake Paul was there. Sid Badarian was there. Francis Inganu was there. Felipe Linz was there, although he very much looked like the odd man out. But let's talk about what we saw from Rousey. She unloaded on the UFC where she, I mean, listen, let me ask the question in just a second. We actually have a clip. Watch this clip. It's a bit of a collection of all the things she said, Danny. Let's watch it. And then I want you to react.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Let's let's go. It's just not about putting on the best fights possible. anymore. Dana isn't the owner and he isn't calling the shots and he isn't running things that the way that he wants because he's he's an employee of the company man. It was a big mistake of theirs to not let him just run things the way that he always has. Oh he knows the the White House card sucks. He knows that they were they were pushing this for over a year and it it fell extremely short of expectations. I I mean, he was so upset about it. He was talking about a fight falling out the day before.
Starting point is 00:37:21 You know, it's a, I can guarantee you he's not, he's not happy with it either. It used to be that UFC was the best place that you could come in combat sports to make a living and be paid fairly. And now it's no longer, it's one of the worst places to go. It's one of the, it's why so many of their top athletes are leaving to go and, and find it.
Starting point is 00:37:46 pay elsewhere. It's why they're champions like Valentina are selling pictures of their tities on Onlyfans. You know, like these people are, a lot of them at the ground level, they can't even, they can't support their families. They're living poverty level fighting full time. This company just got $7.7 billion. There's no reason that they can't afford to pay their athletes, at least a living wage. I'm happy I'm out of that. That's all what I can say. Thank you. I just wanted. Okay, Danny, I mean, you heard what she had to say there. So the question is as follows.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Like, what exactly is going on here? Why is Rousey so aggressively criticizing the UFC when she was once the standard flag bearer for it? Give me your read on this situation. Yeah, this one's a weird one. I think there are many reasons why she would speak out the way she's been speaking out. I think there is, yeah, there's many, many reasons. But it is surprising that she's sort of lashing out in this way. And also, like, she doesn't really have her facts straight.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Like, as in like, oh, you know, the UFC used to be great and used to pay fighters a ton of money. And now they're not doing that. No, it's always been the case. Fighter pay has not gone up. It's always been kept the same at more or less the same percentage of revenue. But I think what's happening here is I'm assuming. the Netflix deal is pretty sweet. Like I'm assuming she's getting paid a good amount of money.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And Luke, I'm sure you've heard of this, but, you know, over the years, you hear, you know, rumblings within the industry, you know, journalists and reporters talking to each other and stuff behind the scenes. And you always heard that Ronda Rousey was one of the worst paid athletes. And I'm not talking about just money-wise. Obviously, she made more money than 90% of the entire roster, right? But percentage-wise, she was highly underpaid. She was headlining, pay-per-views, bringing a shit ton of revenue.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And yet she was seeing just a tiny little percentage of that. And I think she sort of realized that. Again, she's well off. She's got a big property or a big farm or something. I'm sure she's got plenty of money. She's made a lot of money through WWE and other ways, I'm sure. But she's got to realize, look back and kind of see that in a way she got taken advantage of. in a way, you know, she was vastly underpaid.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And that still has to kind of be there. And we know that she's a crazy competitor for better or worse. And I do feel like she's still kind of bitter about that. And at the same time, you know, she has a personal relationship with Dana White. And she used to be broke. And Dana White kind of opened the doors at the perfect time for her to become a superstar and now live this lifestyle. So I think she's very grateful for him. So it doesn't want to throw them under the bus.
Starting point is 00:40:40 But at the same time, recognizes that even though she did gain a lot from, you know, being the leader of women's MMA at that time, which was very crucial, she did get screw over, man. I think I generally agree with that. But I'm going to add a little something to it. And this is, I want to be clear, this is speculative. So take her for what it is worth, which is probably not much. However, my read on this is. that this fight was introduced to, you know, I'm going to guess Hunter Campbell or whoever else was in
Starting point is 00:41:14 executive or TKO leadership. And they either told her to piss off because it's a washed fight and they don't want it or they just lowballed her to an insane degree. And she's literally insulted by it. And that is, this is part of her lashing out. I mean, if they had made her a really competitive offer, I don't know what that would be. I'm just going to imagine 10 million, let's say, and that Netflix came back with 12 or 15. I don't think she'd be talking like this about them. I don't think she'd be making the argument,
Starting point is 00:41:46 oh, they don't want to pay to make the big fights. Moreover, she's kind of absolving Dana all the time. Yeah. Right? She's constantly putting a distance between Dana and the actions of the UFC and Dana and what the UFC product is. To me, man, I think she went to that office,
Starting point is 00:42:02 tried to get them to buy into the fight as a thing that they wanted that could potentially have. And they told her to pound sand. And Netflix probably was like, we're happy to make use of this opportunity. And so let's do it. This is her lashing out against something
Starting point is 00:42:17 this late stage that, you know, I think she feels scorned by. The interesting part that I think we need to kind of consider here is that second consideration where she's absolving Dana all the time. Dan, Dana, let me ask you a question. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:42:32 How much of what Rhonda says about what Dana actually feels is what she's repeating because Dana told her that. Like on the White House thing. She's like, oh, you know, I can tell you that he hates the White House card. That sounds like that sounds to me like they had a conversation about it. Yeah. No, I think you're right. And that's a good way of looking at it. I guess I didn't see it that way.
Starting point is 00:42:55 But yeah, wouldn't be surprised if, you know, being the fact that they have a close relationship that Dana was sort of. of the person talking to Rousey about this fight. And he maybe kind of washed his hands and was kind of like, hey, look, I'm down for it. They just don't want it. It's different times. You know, I can't do anything about it now. Sorry, you know, wish you all the best, make money elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Go get that money from Netflix, et cetera, et cetera. And yeah, it kind of does seem that way. Let me ask the question then this way. It's one thing for you or I to say, hey, we think UFC pay is low. It's another thing for, let's say, somebody else like Colby Covington to say, hey, UFC pay is low. I don't know exactly where Rhonda is in terms of her popularity. I'm not at the peak, but it's hard to say exactly where she's at.
Starting point is 00:43:49 What do you think it means that she's turning this entire event into a referendum on the UFC? Like, is that going to serve her interests? What's the upshot of that? Do you think it's a good idea as like a marketing tactic to do that? do you make of not so much the substance of what she is saying but the decision to lean into that kind of thing to promote this fight i think it's going to have very very positive effects um in terms of making the fight bigger i mentioned how there is probably several reasons why she's doing this one of them being personal and i think i i agree with you with your assessment as in they told her
Starting point is 00:44:31 to go elsewhere and she probably felt offended by that. But there's also a promotional aspect to it. We do know that Rhonda left the UFC in really bad terms or left MMA in really bad terms. Like the fan base really didn't want anything to do with her. She kind of just turned her back on the fans and the entire sport and spoke badly about MMA and its fans. And people that didn't sit right with people, right? So what's the best way today to kind of clean your image and get on the side of the fence is go against the UFC. Talk about fighter pay.
Starting point is 00:45:10 So in a way, she's cleaning her image and to use a pro wrestling term, kind of becoming the baby face and not only the not the villain. And as you've seen all this week, bro, the headlines have been crazy. I think fighter pay, UFC fighter pay hasn't been talked about this. much in a long time. Like, sure, you know, we hear comments here and there, but then you get Ronda plus John Jones, plus Francis Inganu, Eddie Hearn, Oscar Delahoya. You get all these people and all the sudden, like, it's really at the forefront. And all of the articles that you write, because you're supposed to, right, it's Ronda Rossi, blast fighter pay. And she also has an upcoming fight against Girona Karano and Netflix on May 16th. So it's just going to make this
Starting point is 00:45:54 a lot bigger, right? If she were to go out there and be super respectful and, you know, nothing but good things and there wouldn't be such a brash and impactful comments, you know, it wouldn't promote this fight nearly as much. So I think there's also that aspect. I think it's going to be great for the promotion. And look, MVP has built an entire career offgoing against Dana White with obviously Nikisa and Jake Paw. So that just feeds onto that narrative. Yeah, there's no, there's no question again. It was an interesting week, as you indicated, with just how many forces were coming out of the woodwork to say negative things about you, see fighter pay beyond just you know donks like me it was well like an extension of that i think something
Starting point is 00:46:34 that folks should wrap their head around here is it's one thing i like the way which i presented it danny was that you know i think she was scorned and this is her way of kind of lashing out but i actually think it's more to it than that too namely ronda has surmised and i think correctly but what we shall see she has surmised that one way to drum up attention for this bout that she has is not merely to promote against Gina. Gina was, by the way, quite quiet during this whole thing. A few folks asked her about Sean Strickland, and she kind of, you know, was like, I'll pray for him, you know, as a response.
Starting point is 00:47:08 What I mean is Ronda sees it as a lucrative way to get attention to blast UFC. That blasting UFC is a, on these issues, is a great way to garner fan sympathy, fan interest and casual, you know, buy-in as well. And I think we should wrap our heads around, like, what does it mean that that's true? What does it mean that you can actually, excuse me, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:47:41 depending on your situation, this will be true for everybody, but depending on your situation, that you can harvest this kind of material outside of the UFC as a way to like legitimately make your event bigger and more interesting to people. I think it kind of says something about the state of MMA that that's even a viable option for her.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yeah, it does. I mean, you know, I threw a joke about the monopoly, right? Like, this is a little bit of David versus Goliath. Like this is them kind of making a stand and being like, hey, like we can put on big fights outside of the UFC and fighters should get paid more. And again, as you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:48:19 that those garners sympathy from the fan base and from the fighters as well. Like it's, you know, and we'll get into some of the comments from Francis and Gano, but it's hard not to, you know, listen to that and not to sympathize with some of the things that he says. So, yeah, this is a great way to promote this event. And look, it's pretty clear that Ronda is not going back to the UFC, not fighting under the TKO banner. So, you know, burn the ships, you know, this is the way I see it. She's burning the ships and making a big fire out of it. Let's go to topic number three, but we'll stay with this presser.
Starting point is 00:48:57 So then that leads us now to the Francis and Ghanu side of the equation. And his situation is a little bit different. Sure, he made some comments about fighter pay. I'm not really interested in those for today's conversation, although it's kind of related, but different. Let me get to it. Basically, he was asked about legacy. We're going to do the same thing here, Danny.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Let's hear from Francis, because what I want to do is hear what Francis had to say on this question of legacy and then contrast it with the week that John Jones had from a very different from a very I would say opposite position that Francis finds himself in but there's tradeoffs in either direction first let's hear from Francis there's a vocal part of the fan base that that has been disappointed since you left the UFC ruined your legacy because we haven't seen me by what was what give me a definition of legacy your lasting memory in this sport I guess maybe what they Like who? Muhammad Ali?
Starting point is 00:49:52 Ah, like Muhammad Ali. Okay, let me tell you what's the legacy. My legacy right now is my kids back home, is my family back home, getting health care, getting security, being able to put food on the table, being able to put roof on your head. That's a better legacy. You can't have the Muhammad Ali legacy or whatever you want. If your kids cannot attempt to school, he has no place in the society. If your kid doesn't have food in the stomach, he has, that legacy doesn't help you for anything.
Starting point is 00:50:19 anything you cannot go to the store or in a car station at school and pay the scholarship with a legacy you have to understand that this is a bullshit that promotion fit fighters should fire with and they're all out there fighting for legacy good for you keep the legacy give me my pay what i deserve thank you guys thank you guys thank you guys thank you guys thank you so myself but here's why i want to bring this up he is facing questions of sure you have your freedom but look who you're fighting not adding anything to the way in which history. And I thought the definition that the guy used for legacy was not very helpful. The real answer is how you're remembered based on your achievements in the sport. And your achievements in the sport are a function of who you fought and how
Starting point is 00:51:03 you beat them to the extent that you did. But it does contrast with John Jones's situation. Let's put up his statement that he put up this week, Danny, where I'm not going to read the whole thing. I think most folks are pretty familiar with it. He basically asks for his release. and he kind of calls BS on Dana's claims about why he ultimately was ineligible to compete on the White House car. So, Danny, here is the framing I'm asking you to consider. On the one hand, Francis has his freedom, but there's questions about how he'll be remembered because he's not really fighting anyone of significance anymore. By contrast, there are questions about John Jones. He had not about who, I mean, at heavyweight, yes, but certainly not his overall record of
Starting point is 00:51:41 achievement. That is not the case. However, he doesn't have his freedom to go and do some other things. When you see these contrasting realities, how do you understand this moment, either between them or in MMA generally? Yeah, man, it's decisions, right? Like, we, we see the type of decisions that both these guys have made, one, by not resigning a contract with the UFC and kind of, you know, eating dirt for a little bit until, you know, getting his freedom. And then the other guy that continued to resign better deals and making more money and building on his legacy. But he doesn't have that freedom, which I think it's very valuable. I've always said this about, you know, careers, like what makes a successful career in MMA, right? And I think there's three,
Starting point is 00:52:25 there's three components. If you're able to leave, and in this order, with health, money, and legacy, you've had a successful career. Now, if you can leave with two out of the three, you've had a successful career, right? Certainly in Ghanu is leaving with, uh, he looks all there, right? He looks good. Obviously, I'm sure there's little injuries here and there that he's picked up from fighting, but overall he seems he seems good and he's got money. Whereas Jones, like, you know, he doesn't really have maybe the money that Ingano has made, but he does have the legacy, right?
Starting point is 00:53:02 And I said it in that order. So I think legacy is important, but it is the last of those three. Health being the first one, money being the second one. And we see it right now. Like who looks happier in their lives? And obviously there's different components, but just looking at what's being put out there in social media in regards to the fight game,
Starting point is 00:53:22 who looks happier with their life decisions? Francis Inganu or John Jones? I'd like to say Francis in Ganu. And they both have a amount of money. I'm probably, I would say that in Ghana, has more given the two boxing bouts, but they both have enough money where like, you know, money's not an issue for them, right?
Starting point is 00:53:41 And at that point, like, Do you put a price on happiness, right? Like, would you rather have a few million more or be regarded as the greatest of all time over happiness? I certainly wouldn't. I would like to, I would take being, you know, perceived less highly among the public and have a little bit less money, but have freedom. Be happy. That's just me personally. And I think a lot of people would agree here.
Starting point is 00:54:05 So, yeah, it's life decisions. Again, both guys have had successful careers. but in terms of the three things that I mentioned, I do think that Francis and Ganu has had the overall better career in terms of satisfaction and the way he feels about, you know, himself and in his career and his industry. I do think it's important to acknowledge that no matter what situation you find yourself in, whether Johns or Francis is,
Starting point is 00:54:35 there's tradeoffs in either direction. I'm not saying the tradeoffs are equivalent, but that they do exist. I mean, so for example, on the legacy argument, people being like, oh, legacy doesn't matter only the money. And don't get me wrong, I definitely agree that the money is more important than the legacy. But you get a case like Jake Paul where it's like he's got all the money in the world and he'll have no legacy whatsoever in terms of like accomplishment in the sport. It just won't exist. Now, again, you might say, well, he doesn't care and neither do his fans and neither do the people that watch.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Fair enough. But there is a trade he's making. It's not like he's getting both. He has to give up one to get the other in order to do what he is doing. and there's something to be said for that, especially for people who are actually quite good at the sport. So I think that there is something to acknowledge there, but the reality is, dude, like I thought you nailed it,
Starting point is 00:55:19 which is like, look who appears to be happier with their situation. Just use that. Like, don't listen to me. Don't listen to Danny. Don't listen to anybody on the show. Don't listen to anybody else except those two guys. What message do you get from both of them? And it just looks to me like one guy is very comfortable with the choices that he made,
Starting point is 00:55:37 and another guy is living with an enormous amount of regret to that end Danny. John Jones signed an eight fight deal, eight fight deal in January of 2023. What a gigantic mistake that was. What a huge, huge error. I realized in January of 2023, it was maybe not as clear, although even then I would challenge this, but maybe at that point it wasn't exactly clear what kind of opportunities would be available to like very senior fighters at the end of their run, you know, like these fun-ass fights or these Netflix things, it's very difficult to like foresee any of that materializing. But just the ability to have the freedom means should that they materialize, you'll be prepared to take advantage of them.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And now he's got six fights remaining on his freaking deal. All the only ones he used were the gone fight and then the Miocchich fight. And that's it. He's got, he's going to do it. He'll die of old age before he gets out of that contract. You know what I mean? Like the, like the the pain of that has to be substantial, but I just want to say, one of the most important things you can do in your life is not let others have control of your labor. And I realize, I realize that all of us have done that on some level. I've done that. I still do that. You know, you have to make some kinds of trades, but you want to have the situations where you have to give your labor to others, you want to have those on as most, as much an equitable set of terms as possible because
Starting point is 00:57:10 choice and freedom, I think over time, Danny, not always, not in every case, not in every instance, but over the course of time, there's simply no substitute for that. There really isn't much of a price for that, especially within an organization, as you mentioned with Rousey, he's like, oh, well, they used to pay a bunch. No, they didn't. You know, she fought twice in 2014. She made 1.9 million dollars it's really not that much i'm just pointing out you can't really put a price on freedom it's both the other options that you have to go do things as well as the security that comes with having choices at all and i just feel like people really really tend to overlook giving their labor to others for um um you know inequitable terms yeah i i think um i couldn't have said it
Starting point is 00:57:58 better. I think you nailed it. Peace, man. Peace is so valuable, right? And you look at John Jones Twitter and the way he's putting things out there and deleting them and constantly, you know, fighting UFC brass and Dana White and defending himself against certain comments. That to me looks like a disturbed man. That to me looks like a troubled man, someone that's not at peace. And sure, he has his legacy, but look who's smiling and doing whatever the fuck he wants on the other side. Francis and Ganu. So again, there was a trade-off there. But something I've learned in life, man, is like being bitter over things or having resentment, that'll kill you, man. And you can have all the money in the world. You can have, you know, the best situation. But if you linger
Starting point is 00:58:46 with that, you know, it's just not good, man. It's just not good for your soul, for your mental health, for everything. And at the end of the day, that's all you have, right? So yeah, again, Friends in Ghana who looks at peace, John Jones doesn't. And, you know, fans will make an argument. But the legacy, I don't know. I rather be in France and Ghana's shoes than John Jones at this moment. Yeah, I largely agree. Plus, the other part, too, is, I mean, I don't know who Francis is going to fight after Felipe
Starting point is 00:59:15 Lins. You know, there's a lot of different ways that could go. But if you have a good relationship with Netflix, you know, my understanding is you're going to get paid no matter what you know what i mean like it's not like oh well it's this one opportunity and then it's back to the doldrums for him i don't think that's quite right you know we'll see also i'm gonna put this out here and again i don't i don't have any proof of this is just a theory and this is not to me pernicious in as much as it is just competition but i have a feeling because they were saying that they were trying to get that riko verhoeven fight with francis i have a feeling that the reason usik is
Starting point is 00:59:53 fighting Verhoeven is because Turkey didn't want to give it to Jake. I have a feeling. I have a feeling about that because I, you know, behind the scenes, there are actually much more cutthroat competitors against one another than I think folks realize. You know, listen, who got paid in the end? Rico got paid. I'm not mad at it.
Starting point is 01:00:10 You know what I mean? And I think Francis would have been beaten Rico and I think Ussick was going to beat Rico. So it's not like it's like the end of the world either way. But I just feel like that's how that fight materialized. Yeah, no, I didn't think about that. That's a great point. Also, who would you rather take a punch from, with 12 ounce gloves for music or four ounce gloves for manual?
Starting point is 01:00:32 For like probably three, four times the purse. Yeah, yeah, I'll take the Usoc one. I mean, you're going to lose, but at least you lose with some dignity. Yeah. All right. We've got the way in results below for UFC fight night, Emmett versus Vajajos, which is perfect because let's get into it now. UFC Fight Night, Josh Emmett, topic number four,
Starting point is 01:00:52 is taking on Kevin Vajos. Look at this stat that we have about this fight if we can here, Long Island, in terms of the age difference. Put this up here. This is the largest age gap for a UFC main event ever. Josh Emmett, 41 years of age, still a threat.
Starting point is 01:01:13 We'll get to that in a moment against the Argentine at just 24 years of age. This is crazy, Danny. So let's get to it. Can I call fake news, though? Why? On Paramount. Wasn't the largest age gap?
Starting point is 01:01:29 Didn't we just see it? Raoul Rosas versus Rob Fun. Main event. This is main event. Oh, main event. Okay, okay, okay. I take that back. You know, it's a good question.
Starting point is 01:01:37 What would be the largest age gap of any UFC fight ever? I'm not sure the answer to that one. It's like, who did Couture fight? You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know how to answer that one. But in any case, I want to talk about the overall card in just a second, but I want to get to this main event right away.
Starting point is 01:01:54 So the UFC has obviously kind of set this up, young versus old, you know, old school, new school. We kind of get that. But let me just ask you, how real do you think the momentum, the belief, like what's happening behind Kevin Vajajos really is? Is the UFC right, you think, to start pushing this guy up the queue at just 24 years of age? Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:19 But there's all your. hedging. You're hedging. There's also a no there. And I say this with respect towards Bajejos. And this is actually something that Bajejo's agrees with and actually told me this week, Bajejos didn't really want this. Bajejo is happy with the fight. It's happy that he's getting this opportunity. But he told me he actually wants a slower rise to the top. Like things are happening way, way too fast. And one of the reasons that he said, he's like, I just don't want be somebody that, you know, goes to the top, wins a belt, and then loses it in his next fight. I want to be like Wolkenovsky. I want to get to the title already with experience, win the
Starting point is 01:03:00 title and hold on to it. And we know that Wokinovsky won the UFC featherway belt at 30 years of age. That's six years away for Kevin Bajejos, who is just a few days, I believe, on completing his first year in the UFC. And he's already a ranked fighter and in a common event. And he's on the verge of fighting another rank fighter and in the main event. I think that he, unlike most 24-year-olds, and I told him this in our interview, I'm like, it's crazy that you're telling me this because most fighters that I interview in the early 20s, they're calling out ranked fighters, they can't wait to get their main events, they want the champion right now, and they're kind of over-biting here.
Starting point is 01:03:40 And you're the complete opposite. You want less, you want less activity. And you want to, and remember, he called out Cub Swanson for this opportunity, for his next fight, not Josh Shemit. And it's obviously, Cubs Watson being a lesser level opponent at this point in time, at least compared to Josh Shemitt. So I don't take that as in I'm scared. I'm not capable from Kevin Bajejo's,
Starting point is 01:04:02 but I do take that as a he's a very smart guy. He's aware that there's things that he doesn't know. And he's aware that once he beats a guy like Josh Shemit, there's no going back, right? Once you beat someone of that magnitude, you're fighting top tens. And once you fight top tens, you're staying. fighting top tens. And I think that he feels he's capable of doing that. He's obviously very, very skilled. I have him to win the fight. He's obviously a big favorite going into this contest. But I think he's aware that there's so much more for him to learn. He hasn't been fighting for
Starting point is 01:04:36 that much. I think he's had like something like 18 fights in like four years or something like that. He's been professional for like four years. And I don't know. That's kind of refreshing. And I do hope that the UFC pumps the brakes a little bit on him because I do think he's got a ton of potential. Why do you think they're pushing him this quickly? They need stars. They need stars bad. Do they need Latin American stars? They just need starts, period.
Starting point is 01:05:01 But I think the fact that they built the PI in Mexico City, there's been talks. I don't know about now anymore, but a year or two ago, there's been talks of building a PI in Guadalajara as well. We know that there's plans of them going to Guaalajara in, in September for Noche WoFSA. We don't know now with the whole, you know, cartel situation, also the World Cup. I actually heard that Nocho UFC might take place in the States this year in Phoenix. But yeah, they have big interest in the region and generating that.
Starting point is 01:05:36 And Ken Bajejo's is talented and he's exciting. He's a knocker artist. He's everything the UFC wants. He's young. He's professional. You know, he shows up, fights, always on weight. So yeah, they just need starts, period. And this is a guy that clearly paints that.
Starting point is 01:05:52 And sometimes they can push guys a little bit too fast. So I'd like to see them pump the brakes a little bit on Kevin by Jos. Danny, where would you, let me just pick your brain here for a minute, since you're going to know this much better than anyone on the show will. Who are the hot, like the hot rising? Who are Hispanic fans most excited about in terms of Latin American talent? Michael Morales, I'm guessing, some of the top Mexican guys, like, Yair, I'm going to guess, somewhere in there as well.
Starting point is 01:06:24 As far as, like, rising talents? Yeah, rising talents. Like, the guys coming up, who are the Latin American fans, like, buzzing about? Yeah. Morales, I would say, is number one. Okay. Bajejos is one of them, Etcher Sosa, who fights on this card. He's the fighter that found out of Dana White Contender Series, whose dad passed away prior to Wayans.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Spain loves that guy. I would say that after Ilya Toppuria, even though there's some guys that already have UFC fights, Etchard Sosa is probably the more popular one right now. Really? Yeah, people love that guy. Who else? Regina Tarin, and obviously probably for different reasons,
Starting point is 01:07:05 although I do think she's a great fighter. She does crazy numbers as well. People are super hyped on her. I'm kind of blanking on others right now, but there's a few more. But Kevin's probably on the short list, I mean, he was MMA junkies newcomer of the year. And I'm not talking about international newcomer of the year or Hispanic newcomer of the year.
Starting point is 01:07:25 No, newcomer of the year period for 2025. And I know he was, he took that trophy for other sites as well. I mean, this guy's got a ton of hype, dude. So what about Josh Emmett? Let me read you his last five fights. He's got one win in that. He lost to Yusuf Zalal. He lost to Lerone Murphy.
Starting point is 01:07:44 He lost to Ilya and he lost to Yaya Rodriguez. He does have a winner of a Bryce Mitchell, who he vaporized in a nuclear attack with one of the most devastating one-punch knockouts, maybe in all of UFC history. But you look at the names he's losing to, Zolal, Murphy, Tuporia, Rodriguez. These are people who either held titles or right near titles or are going to fight for titles. Like, they're not scrubs. So at 41 years of age, where's Josh Emmett? I feel bad for Josh Emmett because he's been calling out legislation.
Starting point is 01:08:18 for a while. He didn't want to fight Yusuf Salah again. It's not that he's scared, but he wanted the pit bull fight. He wanted, you know, other guys that are up there in age that have a little bit of legacy to kind of close out his career and be able to say, hey, I fought this guy, I fought the other guy, but the UFC's just feeding him straight killers, young killers. And props to Josh Emmett for ultimately taking those fights, but, you know, who knows how much also options he has, right? But Josh Schmidt at this point in time, he's a fighter that you can count on that's going to be in shape. Despite being 41, the dude's still an absolute. unit. He's strong as hell. He still has power. He has good striking, like decent striking,
Starting point is 01:08:55 decent wrestling. I would say skill level wise, and I don't want to sound insulting, but he's a solid C plus fighter, where if you're not on your A game, dude, he can give you a competitive fight and even beat you and even knock you out. But at this point in time, is he elite? No, I don't think so. And I just think he's a very tough test to prospects like Bagujarj. To that end, we have, some video from our friend of the show, Brian Campbell, he thinks he's going to finish Vajajos in the third of the fourth. Let's watch what he has to say. Then we'll react.
Starting point is 01:09:27 This will be his first five-round bout. You've gone the five-round distance three times in the last four years alone. We've seen in the past, even on the title level, Josh, making that change going from three to five rounds. Sometimes people need a lesson to learn how to do that effectively. How big of a jump is that for a fighter, considering 24 years old like Vajahos stepping up against you? Yeah, it's a big factor.
Starting point is 01:09:53 He's, you know, he's tough. He hasn't, like you said, he's, I think he's been to a few three-round fights, but you could see him start to slow down. He's young confidence, which makes, you know, it'll definitely help. But I'm going to press the pace like he's never seen before. I'm going to take him into deep wall. waters and yeah, I'm going to put him away in the third or fourth. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:10:24 I mean, with Josh Schmidt, the chance of getting knocked out is always there because the dude's got brutal, brutal power. And he's not afraid of swing, right? Like, he's 41, but he's definitely not shot. Like, the dude's, you know, striking and he's going for it, right? So I think he does have a chance. But keep in mind, like, King Bajejo's neck is like the size of a tree trunk. He went the distance with John Silva, who, you know, hits extremely hard.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And not only is he durable from a physical standpoint, but go watch some of his fight, specifically the Danny Silva one. At some point, he realized he couldn't knock out Danny Silva, and he just decided to, okay, I'm just going to win round by round and win by points. And he managed to fight quite well and was very good defensively. And I would argue at this point that Danny Silva is a little bit of a more sophisticated striker than Emmett, where he can set traps and really get you to commit a mistake. stake and, you know, make you pay for it.
Starting point is 01:11:17 I don't think Josh Emmett is, is that guy. I think he's going to swing hard, but it's going to be very basic striking in a good way. And Bajejo should be prepared for that. So, again, the chance always remains, but I really, really don't see him finishing by Jekos. The one area that gives me concern for Kevin is not so much take down defense at 83%. He's got pretty good takedown defense, even though, you know, Emmett's a respectable wrestler.
Starting point is 01:11:41 But I just don't think that's the way this fight's going to go. The one that's interesting to me, Danny, is strikes absorbed per minute. So, for example, if you look at Josh Emmett's numbers, he lands 3.72 per minute and then absorbs 4.43. So he has a negative differential, which is not great. If you look at Kevin, he lands 5.78 per minute and then has a 4.71 absorbed. So he has a positive differential, which is great. However, just objectively speaking, in terms of the math, 4.71 or even in Josh
Starting point is 01:12:14 his case 4.43, which is a little bit lower, doesn't matter. Those are both above average for getting hit. They both tend to get touched up a little bit more than they're supposed to. And we understand that, right? At least in Kevin's case, he likes to work behind the jab and he likes to work in the pocket and he likes to throw big punches from there. And so you're just, you're going to put yourself in the line of fire. I think the UFC, one reason why they may have booked this fight, Danny, is that for all the reasons you've already articulated, but then on top, of it, it's actually something of an interesting test case to see how Kevin can solve this problem. You've got a guy who you should be able to a beat. You're definitely more well-rounded than.
Starting point is 01:12:53 You're certainly younger than. Maybe you don't have quite as much power, but you know, you can also, you know, throw down some thunder too. But you put yourself in the line of fire a lot against the guy who's got nuclear power. How do you manage to get around that? I think that's kind of an interesting question like what other weapons might he use in this fight to not so not like replace what he normally does but to maybe complement it to give him an easier path to then use his sort of a skill set rather than something else i think to me there's a little bit of an interesting riddle that he has to solve based on some of the areas of need related to his defense in the pocket just my personal opinion on this no i 100% agree with you and to add to that i'll also say there's a different
Starting point is 01:13:40 aspect of it, which is, you know, fighting Giga Chitkasi, who at this point in his career, he's a bit, you know, frail and knockout prone or prone to getting hurt because I believe Bajejos was the first to knock him out ever. But, dude, Josh Shamed, say what you want about him, 41 years of age, but the dude's durable as hell. I mean, he went to distance with Ilya to Pura. That's insane, right? So Bajejos, I don't know if he's going to be able to knock him out. So it's like how, how, there's also the defensive aspects. aspect, as you mentioned, but also how do you manage your cardio? How do you manage your offensive output where it's not only to knock out, but to win on points, right? So I think there's, again,
Starting point is 01:14:21 I think there's an aspect to that. And I think all around, this is a very interesting test for Bajejo's as you mentioned. Now, let's look up the main card graphic if we can, Long Island, as I indicated. This card overall, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, for a card in the apex, I'm not going to say they don't come better, but this is not a bad apex. card such that they exist. For me, the main event has got a ton of value. We're going to talk about the co-made event in the second. I just don't see any way that Andre Fili versus Jose Delgado is anything other than exciting. And there's some other pieces up and down this card. Let's talk about that co-main event if we can. Put up this graphic that we have here for Jillian.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Most finishes in women's UFC history with 10. She's tied with Amanda Nunes. And there's another to this, namely seven submission wins, which is most by a female fighter, and she has 45.3% of top position time, which to me is not the most interesting, but it kind of gives a sense of some domination. There's another stat on this one. We don't have a graphic board. We don't really need it, Danny. But it goes like this. Jillian Robertson 30 years old, 30 years old. She was, she has quietly put together one of the sneakiest contender runs in any UFC division. And I got to tell you, Danny, she said if she wins this contest against Amanda Lamos, she should get a shot at McKenzie Dern. I kind of agree with her, do you? Yeah, 100%. And I love that Jillian Robertson is getting some shine here because, you know, I've got to tell you, man,
Starting point is 01:15:57 I fucking love Julian Robertson. I think overall women's M.A. has kind of gone downhill over the last few years. But Gillian Robertson is one of those fighters. When she's on the card, I'm going to tune into that fight because it's going to be a good one. Julian Robertson is awesome. I think she's very skilled.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I think she's been very underrated for a long time. I'm glad that she's getting a former title challenger. I'm glad that she's getting a common event slot. And it's about damn time because I've been watching her fight for a while. And I'm like, dude, this chick is special. This girl's special and she has championship potential. And I do believe she's going to be champion at some point. I'm all on board on the Gillian Robertson train.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I think you're muted. I just lost sound. No, it's mine. It's mine. I was muted my microphone. phone because I was taking a sip on the drink. What do you think her chances are to get a sub in this fight? It's a tough one.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Lamo, she's been subbed. She does have a lot of subs. And something about, I love about Gillian, and again, I know I'm glacing Jillian a ton here, but, dude, when she fights, it looks intentional, right? Like, and I don't know if you. That's a great call. I agree with me, but, like, something I hate about women's M.A. Is that there's so much wasted movement.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Like, there's so much busy work. There's so much just busy movements that don't really lead to anything that don't really serve a purpose. There's a few fighters. And I think Macy Barber is also one of them, which I'm also a fan of hers in terms of her fighting style. It's intentional. Like everything that she does is intentional. Everything that she does serves a purpose. Everything that she does, it's like, oh, snap, what is she setting up?
Starting point is 01:17:36 Oh, where is she going with this? Because it means something. It's consequential. And that's one of the reasons why I think she stands out. She stood out for me for a long time. So with that being said, I do think that she's not interested in going to a decision. I do think the entire fight, she's either going to try to get a sub or try to get a TKO win through grappling, obviously through a takedown in dominant positions.
Starting point is 01:18:00 And Amanda Lemous, I don't know if you saw her Media Day interviews. She looked lifeless. She looked like that way cut is absolutely killing her. she looked with no energy she was barely talking um i mean the translator had more energy than her but i mean fabiano does have pretty high energy so um but yeah man i again i'm not watching the way-ins right now maybe long island luke can uh weigh in on that i don't know if she's weighed in yet i don't know how she's look if she has already but i do wonder what her cardio is and at some point again jillian robertson's going to be non-stop third round submission
Starting point is 01:18:40 I think it's possible. I think it's in the cards. She did weigh in as Danny. I wouldn't say she looked lifeless, but she definitely, you know, she definitely cut weight to get there. And she weighed in a 116. So obviously, she made it. She made it. You know, she's a pro. She last fought in September of 2025, Danny. She lost Tatiana Suarez. Before that, she beat Yasmin Lucindo. Then before that, she lost a Virna Gengi Rova. And then before that she beat McKenzie Dern. Now we're back in February of 24. Dern or Jindaroa subber? No, Dern lost to her.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Lossed one, that's right. That's right. Janjarova subbed her in the subsequent fight, you know, on the second round arm bar. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, she's up, she's down. Yeah, yeah. She's up, she's down. You know what I mean? Like she can be a good fighter. She can lose to good fighters. It's kind of an interesting one. But I do love this particular contest. Also on the card, I don't have, I'll ask you, do you have great interest in Iwan Kutelaba taken on Umar C, Umar C, something of a sizable favorite, according to our friends at Draft Kings, at minus 258, Kute Labelabo plus 210.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Nope. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be a crazy fight, but, you know, not very consequential. No, this isn't a good fight. Let's talk about that Stephen Aspland fight, man. Everyone's high on him, but you, Luke. Okay. Oh, let's talk about Stephen Aspl.
Starting point is 01:19:57 By the way, by the way, he is not out of this fight as a dog. He is plus 185, Vitor Petrino at minus 225. Vitor Petrino shit the bed completely against Anthony Smith. So it's not like I think this fight is unwinnable for Stephen Aspland. Listen, I don't want to be a dick in any way at all. If he's here, it's not because he's bad at fighting. He's got some ability, and I want to be clear about that. Also, the fact that he rescued himself, quite literally,
Starting point is 01:20:24 like rescued himself from the weight gain that was almost certainly going to prematurely one way or the other prematurely end his life is the most commendable thing. It's not just giving himself more life. He's going to be there for his family. Look at what he's doing now. Like the guy's thriving. I recognize that, Danny. I see that.
Starting point is 01:20:43 I recognize that. And I respect that tremendously. But what I'm trying to explain to people is, dog, this is not like, this is not some situation where we're proud about someone's life journey and that's the only thing. This is high, or this ostensibly, high level competition prize fighting.
Starting point is 01:21:01 And if you've got guys who look like that, you know, you don't have the elite crop of guys that you would need to make this a more dynamic division. You just don't. Like it's just a reality. You guys like this have incredible stories that are worthy of respect. But if you've got them in your division, I'm going to also say that in general,
Starting point is 01:21:19 with some exception here or there, in general, something has gone kind of wrong with your ability to recruit more elite athletes. And I don't think that's unfair and I don't think that's being mean. Nope, I think that's fair. Look, that's one of the points that Ronda Raussi made at the presser, and I think it went unnoticed. Obviously, a lot was focused on Daniel White,
Starting point is 01:21:35 pay, but she also said that the UFC, because they don't pay all that well, it doesn't attract top athletes, right? If you are, you know, 6-5, 250 pounds, like, are you, at least from a financial perspective, like, does it make sense for you to become a UFC heavyweight, or do you want to go into football or do you want to go into basketball or other sports where your physicality is worth a lot more? So, yeah, I mean, again, not to be all anti-UFC and this and that because I know fans get tired of it, but that's what happens when you're in a monopoly, man. You don't get the best product out there.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Prior to the show, Long Island Luke, who is heterosexual was like, I would like to have sex with this man. And I was like, I'll suck. In a non-game. Remember, he's the guy who said he would suck Dana. Oh, that's right. People don't let him. People just moved right past that.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I'm still, like, cringed out by that. But, dude, he did have a great media day. We got to just play the. All right, let's see. Bro, he's a monster. Why is he fighting? He could be a model. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:22:41 This guy looks like the rock. You know what I mean? So it's like the battle, the worst physique, and the best physique in the heavyweight division. I'm excited to show the fat boys love this Saturday. There's a little bit of bad blood on this one, too. So as soon as I heard the name Vitor, I was like, fuck yeah, give me that. So I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Why is your bad blood? Not really bad blood, but, you know, there's history. He beat my brother in October, and I feel like Tommy was one in that fight. And I felt like watching Vitor get chin in that fight, I'd definitely be able to chin this motherfucker. So I'm excited to go out there and do what I do. The brother he's referring to was Thomas Peterson, who Vitor, you know, faceplant chaoed earlier this year. So he's trying to get it.
Starting point is 01:23:24 It's a straining partner, I guess. He's trying to get it back. But look at this man's weight transformation. I mean, look, he was 500 pounds. Bro, I'm saying it's nothing but respect for this part. of the story nothing nothing but respect that is crazy to do and um takes an enormous amount of discipline and belief and and faith in your journey and it's just i you know i'd rather have the guys who are chiseled out of stone from age six on up you know what i mean like that crop of athlete dude
Starting point is 01:23:52 dany have you ever stood next to an nfl player before uh i have yeah dog i stood next to a guy who who who was trying, he's trying to, he played a few seasons for the NFL and now he's trying to make his way, he fights at Kilcliffe. And I called one of his XFC fights, dude, it, when you stand next to an athlete like that, it's insane the difference in like they're, they're barely the same species as you and me. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's like, like, I, I just can't, I'm not saying that all guys who are great athletes are good fighters, because that's also not true. But what I'm saying is, in general, those kinds of athletic gifts are going to be better to infer advantages and fighting.
Starting point is 01:24:32 And, you know, I just don't think we should lose side of that. That's all. Yeah. You know, when I did get the sense of that, when I was covering the Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua fight, obviously, like, you look at him on camera and, like, you know the dude's like a specimen, right? He's massive. But standing next to him, you're like, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Like, yeah, this is a different species. And I told another reporter, I'm like, dude, if aliens were to, like, you know, pull up to earth, I mean, they probably have already. but kind of just, you know, abduct somebody to like study like the ideal specimen is probably Anthony Joshua. Like the dude's just massive and he just like shredded but also like 250 pounds, just an absolute unit. Stephen is not that. But hey, look, he owns up to it. Matter of respect to him and he fights, man.
Starting point is 01:25:20 He bangs, bro. He does. He's got a friendly. He's got a fan. I get why the fans like him. His story is likable. His style is likable. I'm not trying to hate on him in that way at all.
Starting point is 01:25:29 I get it. I think he can pull the opposite here. Oh, you do? Oh, you know what? I don't believe in Vitor Petrino. Yeah, yeah. I don't. Dude, he's aggressive enough.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Stephen Aspland is aggressive enough, and Vitor Petrino is just kind of average enough where absolutely he can win this one. I would not be surprised if he won. I totally agree on that level. All right, very quickly on the rest of this card, Andre Fili, as I mentioned, against Jose Delgado, it's going to be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Does the fight mean anything else? or that we're just keeping these guys busy and we should just be okay with that? I think just keeping them busy. I think certainly with Androfili, like we know what we're going to get and his career is what it is at this point and he's just in for some fun fights.
Starting point is 01:26:12 But Jose Elgao, you know, he is 27, trains out of the MMA lab, just crazy amount of power. I want to see how he bounces back from his first loss. How is he in his last outing, losing to Nathaniel Wood. I do think that he's something special. So, yeah, this is a banger of a fight, but I think it's a little bit more than that
Starting point is 01:26:30 on the Jose de Elgado side. I do think this guy can go on to do something special. He has the youth and he has the skill so far that promise that. Okay, here's the big question for me. I don't even know if it was on the graphic. Put the graphic up one more time. Yeah, it's not even on here, Danny. This is the main card.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Okay, guys, the best fight on this card might just be Chris Curtis taking on Mick Tebeck Oralby. Like this fight, I don't know who's going to win this fight, but it's going to be fucking insane for as long as it lasts. I know that for a fact. What is your theory about why this is on the prelims of all places? Who the fuck knows, man? And you see those like such a weird decision. This is an awesome fight.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I'm a huge fan of Warby. Few fighters and just how I was mentioning how Gillian Robertson fights with intention, which is something not often seen or not not seen. as much in women's MMA or by he transmit like this this feeling of like rawness when he fights it doesn't feel like it's a competition it doesn't feel like it's a
Starting point is 01:27:35 sport it feels like survival like he's out there fighting like to like he literally thinks he's going to die and he's fighting for survival dude this guy's awesome yeah I don't know why this fight this fight should be right below the common event with all due respect to Philly and Delgal I freaking love
Starting point is 01:27:51 this fight Long Island you're all over this one what is your read about how this one I weirdly I have two bets on this fight one I think was an oral by decision okay I feel like Chris Curtis yeah he's been finished before but I feel like he's tough to finish he he he did eat that like copy love head kick with like two seconds left in that fight and not finished but otherwise we've seen him go five rounds and shit I feel like this one goes long I'm high on oral by two and I think this is going to be a solid win I also like a Chris Curtis spread bet if you can get him plus seven and a half so just one judge has to give him one round he's like notoriously goes to split decisions I mean
Starting point is 01:28:25 you don't need it to be a split decision you can get 3027 30 27 29 28 unanimous and you could still cover but i don't know i think that one definitely goes along though as as fun as it probably will be definitely fight in the night that that fight to me danny is fun and but i you know i i've actually had this conversation with chris curtis i've actually talked with him about this specifically which is like the body punching i love chris curtis's body punching style but against a guy like oral by or even for the judges and mhm generally. It's a tough sell, dude, because he's just probably going to eat it unless you really hammer him, which is possible. But, you know, in all likelihood, he's going to eat it. The markings
Starting point is 01:29:04 don't show up like they do if you just tack someone on the face or like, you know, around the brow or something like that. And this is why I think he often ends up in these split decisions. You'll see him like outpoint a guy kind of on the feet and then lose a decision because they're headhunting and he's body snatching. But it should make for a fun fight. I do think that. Dude, Orrubai, I think he's going get the finish, man. Keep in mind this at the apex, so this is the smaller octagon. He's just going to walk forward and just land crazy shit until something connects and
Starting point is 01:29:33 puts out Chris Curtis. One thing I do want to say, Long Island Luke, proper degenerate. You know you're a proper degenerate when you're betting spreads and just banking on one fighter, not even winning the fight, just winning one round of the fight. Hey, man, I love those bets, by the way. Draft Kings, I think, is the
Starting point is 01:29:49 only book I know that offers those bets. So shout out to draft games, but I feel like it's a lot of times like, ooh, I could see this guy winning, but I actually don't think he wins, but you're like, don't the spread bad, fuck it. And then when they get the upset win, you're still happy because you still cover the spread. All right. Anything else on that card of note to you, Danny? Charles Johnson versus Bruno Silva. I think that's a proper flyaway bout. Charles Johnson has the opportunity to do something big here. Keep in mind, he knocked out Lonie Kavanaugh. He knocked
Starting point is 01:30:19 out Joshua Van. If he loses here, man, his stock drops a lot. But if he wins and gets a crazy, knockout. I think he's kind of back in the mix. So that's a fight I have my eye on. And being a mosquito against Moncey Rendon, seems like a fun one. Yeah. Bea Mosquita, obviously one of the better women's jihitsu athletes of our generation. Also, as you indicated, Etcher Sosa, that's the guy, he's 14 and 1 out of Spain. That's the guy you said everyone is high on. Yep. Against Luan Lacerda. I want to, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, no. I was saying to Danny pre-show that this Marwan Rahiki versus Harry Hardwick fight. It's on the main card. Marwan is born in Morocco, but he trains out of Australia. So naturally you'd think, oh, Luke, you're obviously
Starting point is 01:31:02 back in this guy, right? L.T. He got dropped twice and outstruck in his contender series fight. Harry Hardwick looked like shit in his UFC debut. He got first with fucking leg kicks, but at the same time, took it on five days notice, took it up a weight class. Are we not thinking there's some value on Harry Hardwick here? I'm riding with him as a dog. I'm hoping he doesn't I got to say he did look real bad in his UFC. I know. And me and Danny were saying maybe it's the type of, you know, type of bad that can't be fixed in this amount of time. But I'm just hoping it was like bad stylistic.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Hopefully he's, you know, buttoned up that part of his game. And I'm thinking Rihiki can get caught. That's what I'm hoping for. All right. He's awesome. Tons of value on this card, if I do say so myself. All right. And that takes us, oh, by the way, before we get to topic number five,
Starting point is 01:31:46 let me say this from Faceoff, talking about our friends over at Cuervo to final decision. Fight night delivers the adrenaline and Cuervo has the energy to match it. Whether you're hosting your crew at home or catching the action at a bar, Cuervo brings the good vibes that turn every round into a celebration. From margaritas to Palomas, every main event simply tastes better with the world's most iconic tequila. No matter who walks out with the belt with Cuervo in hand, you're already celebrating like an undisputed champion. for every round, keep it fun, keep it Cuervo.
Starting point is 01:32:23 And one more time, we'll be back in studio the week of April 11th for the next pregame preview. We'll be enjoying some Cuervo responsibly while we're there as well. Big thanks to our friends at Cuervo. All right. Topic number five, let's get to it right now. Just a series of kind of news items in the MMA world, Danny, that I'd like to touch on. So first things first, UFC 326 turning in some pretty good numbers for CBS. I think we have the graphic for that.
Starting point is 01:32:49 if you see, I can't quite read all of it, but there was basically an increased viewership versus the UFC's particular average on linear television previously, as well as up 30% versus CBS's season to date viewership in the same slot. Now, I looked up some of those slots where they have the increased viewership and like what games, for example, were going on during that time, like the different, you know, for example, college basketball games or whatever. And they were some real number games between like teams you wouldn't possibly care about. So, I don't know, none of these things are ever out. apples to apples, but certainly not bad numbers, certainly not turning in things with the ratings
Starting point is 01:33:24 were dropping off or people didn't care. It showed some pretty good numbers. And I got to say, they did it. The last two fights on that segment were really great, the Robocop and the Michael Johnson drew Dover fight. The first two were some of the worst I'd ever seen. So I got to say, all things being what they are, UFC's got to be pretty happy with these numbers. 100%. Yeah, solid the solid numbers. And I got to tell you, I think it's brilliant that they're not, you would think like the normal thing to do would be to put the top fights right on television. But I think it's absolutely brilliant that they're actually putting just a portion of the middle card and then, you know, getting people back to Paramount Plus to check out the rest. Great strategy. It's something
Starting point is 01:34:05 I didn't think about. So we'll see how that goes in the future. And by the way, they're going to do this again for UFC 327. I don't think we have the graphic. But if I look to, up on let me let me pull that up real quickly because I actually feel like this is important. I saw what was going to be on there for that one and I was like, oh, this is going to be even better. So for those ones, let's see, one, two, three, four, five. Johnny Walker, Dominic Reyes, right? Johnny Walker, Dominic Reyes is going to be your opener. Then Pitbull, Aaron Pico, then Kevin Holland, Randy Brown, and then Chris Curtis Blades versus
Starting point is 01:34:37 Josh Hokit. Oh, no, sorry, I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Dominic Reyes, Johnny Walker. Wait, no, that's right. No, I'm wrong. Here we go. here we go. As I'm at Merzacanov, Paul Ocosta, which I think Costa might get slept in that one.
Starting point is 01:34:48 We'll see. Dominic Ray is Johnny Walker. I mean, that's just going to be donkery until there isn't. Oh, yeah. Pitbull versus Aaron Pico, PFL and Bellator's finest. And then Kevin Hall and Randy Brown. I think that's how that's going to go. I got to tell you, it's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:35:05 It's a pretty good run up there. Yeah. It's, I mean, nothing is guaranteed in life, but it should be a good portion of MMA right there. All right. We had talked about this on Monday's, MK. Danny, we're not here, obviously. But we were asking, like, what the hell does RDR do now that he had lost to Kyle Bohalio? Well, we got our answer.
Starting point is 01:35:21 He's going to go to 205 pounds. Here's what he said. And in a post, he kind of announced he was moving to light heavyweight on Instagram. He says, quote, I came up a little short. I think it could have gone either way, but I'm happy that I got my body back. Most importantly, I was able to go three hard rounds. I think I have a lot more to show. I brought you guys donuts.
Starting point is 01:35:41 He's talking to his teammates because I need you guys heavy. I need you guys strong because I'm coming at 205 pounds baby. Danny, simple question is moving to 205 the right call for Reneer to Ritter. 100%. I mean, that was the only call left after the loss of Cabarale, like, where is he going to go? And he had all this hype, right? But can you really get back on track to win the belt at 185? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:36:07 And look, beating Hamza Shemai, beating Strickland, beating him out of like, those are tough fights, man. at 205, that division is not nearly as skilled or nearly as difficult. So I think from a skills perspective, you'll have an easier time dealing with some of the fighters there. And also, I don't know about you, Luke, but like he looked frail, man. He looked frail in his time at 185, right? Like he just didn't command power. It was always like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:36 So I feel like if he can move to 205 and put on some muscle and get a little sturdier, I think that's going to help his game a lot. And also like, bro, in terms of submission ability, who's better at him 205? Nobody. No, just on pure subterms, you know? Yeah. Like I feel like that is a big opportunity for him. And does he win the belt there?
Starting point is 01:36:56 I don't know. But just the last, the, stop doing damage to your body with these weight cuts. You know what I mean? Just even if your record ends up being the same at middle weight as light heavy weight, your body's going to feel it less, you know? I think he's going to have more success. It's easier fights, dude. 205.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. All right. How about this one? This event in Brazil on, what was it, a couple of nights ago at this point, had Jayon Silva versus Bryce Mitchell in the main event. They had a bit of a draw, which was kind of a weird thing.
Starting point is 01:37:28 However, Armand Sarjukian ended up choking out former UFC flyweight, Mohamed Mokkaev, who, by the way, has also been kind of doing side quests here and there and having his own little renaissance outside of the UFC. here you can see the ending of it. He straight up puts Mokaiev to sleep. There he goes. He's all done. This event was so weird. Two guys in the crowd got picked out of the crowd to go fist fight,
Starting point is 01:37:50 quite literally fist fight in the middle of the ring. As I mentioned, it was, I think it was called like Free Brazil or something like that. I forget the exact name, but it don't happen to move my nose. Is that hype FC or something? Hype FC, yeah, hype FC, hype Brazil FC or whatever the fuck. Doesn't matter. What I'm trying to ask is, okay, listen, I think we all agree, Danny,
Starting point is 01:38:07 that the Armin side quests have in, general been a huge success. I'm no one here is saying otherwise he can't get fights for all the reasons that we already know we don't have to relitigate it so he's doing all the stuff at raf he's doing hype brazil you you name it but at this point I'm starting to get a little fatigued with them I get the value in them I think that there is value to them and there's been an enormous up to this point are you with me that you feel like it might be starting to wane a little bit the value no no not not no I mean that Georgia poll is thing was crazy. I think it's, and they're doing the rematch on March 28th in Tampa.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I'm actually going to tell my editor to see if they send me out there because it's a big, big match. And I think they should attract a lot of eyeballs. But I'm excited for that. And then maybe after that, we'll see if other opportunities come up that are exciting. But at least I have my eyes on that. And I do think that is exciting enough for me not to be bored yet with the side quest as you mentioned. See, for me, what happened in the first matchup with that dude kind of felt like, all right. right. This is the peak. You know what I mean? Like, I've had enough of this.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Let's book this fight. Let's put this guy in a fucking fight already. You know, and a big one. No, that's true. I mean, I do rather have them in MMA than any other form of fighting, whether there's grappling or wrestling or whatever. And last but not least, for our side stories, I don't know what the fuck this is, but this is from Damon Martin, our former co-worker. The UFC has officially announced a partnership with the FBI with a training seminar, planned for March 14th and 15th in Quantico, Virginia.
Starting point is 01:39:41 That is, of course, the FBI training headquarters. Justin Gachie, Michael Chandler, Chris Wyman, and Henzo Gracie, among those serving as instructors. Danny, simple question, what in the fuck is that? I have no fucking idea. Look, there's an event at the White House. So, you know, I'm not surprised by anything at this point. And, yeah, just weird shit.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Here's the thing. It's like, people need to understand what the FBI does, right? We'll make this quick. But are there people in the FBI who would benefit from this kind of training? Are there field agents or other kinds of agents in tactical units, for example, that this could be very valuable? Sure, sure. That is like 1% of 1% of 1% of what the vast majority of what FBI agents do and what their jobs entail. The vast majority of it is on a computer doing chasing money laundering.
Starting point is 01:40:35 It's not it's not this. is the most insane fucking say again and rigged fights yeah and rigged fights yeah it's like bro they what the fuck is this like what are we doing it it just it the amount of the amount of ways that the ufc has enmeshed itself with world governments and by the way we haven't even talked about this like with this war that's happening over the middle east bro the ufc not for nothing they went to katar last year UAE they go every october and then and then some more Saudi Arabia those shows are going to have to go somewhere else. I don't think that they're going to go back there this year, and at least not anytime soon, but like the ability for the UFC to get money from governments by
Starting point is 01:41:16 doing, you know, various different service contracts, quite remarkable the amount of money they're able to pull in, is it not? Yeah, yeah, Cash Patel probably has a huge phone right now, you know, watching that announcement. Yeah, weird one, but at least they're not like doing it with ice or something, you know, I would have been worse. So, hey, there's that. All right, it's a weird ass time in the sport. That's it for our top five. Now it's time for LIL to have us rank that card. Well, you just said it, Luke. It's everybody's favorite game. It is rank that car. Rank that card. It sucks. You're up first. Which undefeated UFC fighter, undefeated in the UFC has the biggest chance of losing tomorrow? Elijah Smith, Kevin Vigejos, or be a mosquito?
Starting point is 01:42:08 Is this for me or Danny? This is for you, LT. Okay. Just rank them. Elijah Smith. I haven't looked at the odds, but I don't think these other two are going to lose. All right. Well, who's second most quickly to lose?
Starting point is 01:42:23 Kevin and then Bia. I think Bia is going to run her over. Danny, you have the same ranking or you changed him? No, I would have put Kevin last. I'll put Elijah first, Bia and then came by you. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Beah, biggest favorite on the card. So, you know, odds. why she's most Danny, which debuting fighter is most likely to be ranked one day? I think I know
Starting point is 01:42:45 what you're going to say here. Your boy, Hatcher Soza, I can't say his name. Marwan Rahiki or Manuel Sosa. I'm going to go
Starting point is 01:42:52 Etchers Sosa, then Sosa, and then Rahiki. Oh, see, some doubt in the Rihiki there. I see you, Danny. Yeah, but the opponent
Starting point is 01:43:01 save your money, man. I already put it in, so it doesn't matter. LT, what, uh, you changing that at all? I'll stay with Sosa. Did he have Sousa or so, how are you say, the second Sosa?
Starting point is 01:43:13 Yeah. And then right. And then right. He lasts, yeah. All right. All right, L.T. Who's most likely to win by finish? Jose Delgado, Mick DeBek, Oralby, or Gillian Robertson?
Starting point is 01:43:22 Oh. Oh, fuck. That's a good one. Wow. Um, hmm. Man, I'll go. Man, they all got a good chance, you know? I'll go Oral by Robertson Delgado.
Starting point is 01:43:48 But that, I mean, you could play with that one. Danny, what are you going? I would go in the exact order that's being displayed. I would go Jose Elgado, Oralby, and Gillian Robertson. Wow. So I'm going the opposite of both of you. And I'm going Jillian first, then Jose, then Orleby. I think the Oralbite goes the distance.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Danny, whose stock will drop the most with a lot. loss on Saturday. Jose Delgado, Kevin Vigejos, or be a mesquita? I would go Delgado, Mesquita, and Vallejos. Really? I guess because he's still so young, Vigejos, you don't think he has that much. Not and Josh, I can put the lights on anyone.
Starting point is 01:44:31 So, you know, you can forgive that a little bit. L.T. See, I disagree. I think if you're in a main event, I mean, it really depends on how the fight goes, but if Vajajos gets stopped, for example, which I don't think is likely, right, obviously. But let's just say that it did. I think that I'm not going to say ruinous because he's 24, but like in terms of where that would put his stock for the next six months to a year, yeah, I think it would hurt it.
Starting point is 01:44:54 So I'll go him one. Mosquita, I'll go two because she's kind of got a little bit of hype starting to build. And Delgado, I just don't think it's quite there yet in terms of the hype. So part of this is hype, right? It's like what the bubble is around you. So I'll go Delgado last. See, I feel like B is got to be one. She's a, I don't know, top of my head, I think she's like 35, 34.
Starting point is 01:45:15 we're like she's already up there there's so much hype behind her right now she's not even ranked yet like you lose this it's like but uh all right l t who's most likely to avoid a second straight loss charles johnson brad tavariz or iwan kutalaba i mean it definitely ain't iwan he could put him the last of that list he don't give a fuck bro um hmm i i you know what i'm gonna go in the order you have it i okay charles johnson to me has been up and down i recognize but that's fucker's good like he's a good fighter and I believe in that so I'm gonna go Charles
Starting point is 01:45:51 1 Brad 2 E1 3rd Danny I agree See I'm going Brad first he's fighting Eric Anders I feel like they're like such Level playing field that like He's fighting your boy He is fighting your boy that'll come up later Anders could maybe tie him up
Starting point is 01:46:07 And you know Anders has been slipping recently He's not we're both coming off Knockout losses I believe I think Tavar's got knocked out by Robert Breachek and Anders got knocked out by CLD, Christian Leroyd.
Starting point is 01:46:24 Bro, Anders beat Chris Wybin in 2024, then lost a Christian Leroy Duncan who turns out to be a good fighter in 2025 and then this is his first fight back so he fought like one time last year and got wiped and now he's back and I don't know, I don't know. And he's old too, right?
Starting point is 01:46:39 He's up 38, yeah. Yeah, and so is Brad, but I think they're the same age. All right. uh l t or no this is danny sorry most entertaining fighter on the card kevin vizs mectebecke orleby or jose delgado okay is this in regards to their fight or just in general think personality you could factor in as well but you know fighting style mix of everything oh um i'll go orobai badejos delgado i think i agree with that that's exactly the way i will go all right that was a tough one because There's a lot of exciting fighters on this card.
Starting point is 01:47:15 I thought maybe put an Aspland in there for like the personality aspect. But, you know, knowing LT, he would have put in his last. You think I hate this guy. It's like, dude, you don't want people who make it to the UFC because they lost a bunch of weight. Like, that's what you don't want. Like, trust me. His nickname's concrete, but his stomach is flabby, like, you know, wet concrete. But anyways, LT, most likely to challenge for a UFC belt one day.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Jillian Robertson, your boy, Stephen S, but not. Anders or be a mosquito. I mean, I think long term Bia will do some pretty impressive things, but as it stands, I'm going to go Robertson, Bia, Stephen. Okay, not with even how, I mean, I guess Bia is in a weak division too, but with how a weak heavyweight is, you don't think Aspland could get there? No. Danny, you change into that at all? No, not at all. Robertson, Mosquita, uh, Asplen. I think I agree with both of you guys. Maybe Mosquita could get fast track you know like shrillick could get watching she's got the one you could see maybe but the thing is robertson's so close already it's like yeah but there's still like the way lee fight that's clearly
Starting point is 01:48:18 probably next so it's like you know things could get murky uh this one's for danny underdog with the best chance of winning bruno silver chris curtis or harry hardwick Curtis sylvo hardwick i'm telling you man you're losing that bet cash out bro no i can i gave it out and everything l t you changed exactly the way i would go all right all right fair enough l t uh who will have more ufc fights after tomorrow's card josh emitt brad tavarez eric anders all of which are at least 38 years old josh emmet obviously obviously 41 years old so i'm going to go brad tavarez won because that motherfucker is tough as shoe leather um and then i'll go emmett and anders last
Starting point is 01:49:04 Danny? I'm going to go a little different. I'm basing this off relevancy, meaning I see them having a little bit more life in the game skill-wise. Like they can hang in with the current talent. So I'm going to go Emmett, Tavares, Anders. Wow. I feel like just age alone, I got to put Emmett last.
Starting point is 01:49:21 But Tavares, I feel like it's just whoever wins on Saturday. We'll have a longer career. Danny, last but not least, best nickname on the card. Eric, your boy, Anders. Andre touchy-feely or Charles Energy Johnson. There's only one good nickname on there. I'm going to go touchy, yo boy, and energy.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Are you high? LT, what's yours? First of all, put some fucking respect, Danny Seguera, on Charles Energy Johnson. God damn, it's Energy, Your Boy. Touchy could be a number one choice too, I recognize. Touchy is supreme. Touchy only works because of the last name.
Starting point is 01:50:07 It's a play on the day. But like, well, I like nicknames like the ax murderer or things. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't have to be Silva. It just works, you know?
Starting point is 01:50:15 Yeah. We normally do most intimidating nickname on this. And I like to think like if you were fighting this guy, which would you be more scared of? And if we're doing most intimidating. I don't know. I think, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Yeah. Just give Epstein vibes. You know. Oh, I mean, we can all agree. Your boy is clearly. the worst choice in every possible scenario. I mean, I mean, dude, you got to fight your boy.
Starting point is 01:50:37 It's like, what, that's my boy. I got to fight him. Yeah, I don't talk like that though. That's the thing. I would never use that kind of a thing. All right. Well, that was ranked that card, guys. Hope you enjoyed it. Next up, we got, what's my age again? So you guys know the drill here. I'll show you a fighter. We're going to go back and forth. So LT, you're up first. You got to give me their exact age. If you do not get it correct, I'm going to show you a video or a picture you got to react to it. So first up LT Now hold on one more time Hold on one second
Starting point is 01:51:10 We got to get How close do we got to get You got to nail it Because last time I was giving you guys One year off And then you weren't getting any videos To react to And you know that's the fun part
Starting point is 01:51:20 So you got to nail it For Ross Ziam I'll go 29 Ooh so close LT He is 28 years old So obviously Luke You had a public beef I know you don't want to, you know, chime into it.
Starting point is 01:51:40 I know you don't want to talk about it. But I did see this interview resurfaced, and I thought it was funny. First, I want to say, we would by far the worst commentator and interviewer in the business. Actually, this is his third take. But, you know, see, people don't realize you guys were in the same room at the same time. But that was actually you there, you know. Yes. Not sure what was going on.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Luke Shakor, Stevenson, Thomas. That's right. Yeah, that's exactly it. All right, Danny. For you, we got Joe Pfeiffer. Ooh, 28? Ooh, again, Danny, you are one year off. He is 29 years old.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Danny, I've learned from Prop Quiz that you'll bet on pretty much anything. In fact, we've seen some of your betting clips. Here we go. Here's one of them. Sorry, wrong number. Come on, bring me my money. Oh, yeah, big time, big time. And you know I go all in.
Starting point is 01:52:49 go all in. I don't play these games all one unit here. Nah, I'm putting the fucking bank. I do lie. I will say this on Jeopardy. I like it when they're like, all right, I'll make it a true daily double, you know, and they just fucking risk the whole shit. I love that. That is, yeah. I don't watch much shepherd. I'm like the I young Kutze
Starting point is 01:53:05 of, uh, of prop quiz, basically. No, you're the fucking Max Hilo. He's the Max Hilo. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe, maybe the Justin Gachy, because sometimes you get caught doing it, but that is true. Yeah, but sometimes it pays off. Hey, live by the sword. die by the sword. Most entertaining player.
Starting point is 01:53:21 There you go. L.T. next up, we got Uros Medich. See, he's bald as a motherfucker, but that's not quite right. 32. Nailed it. Yes. Nailed it, LT. There you go. I can't even can't even give you a video after that. Very good.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Very good. All right, Danny. You got my boy, Al Jermaine Sterling. Oh, 34. He does look youthful. Dude, he does. He does great hair. Six years old. airline 36 he's 36 yeah i can't believe that oh my shit daddy how old are you uh 33 by the way quick pause here i was talking to came about jose earlier this week right and uh you know
Starting point is 01:54:02 i'm thinking like yeah we're the same age right like i'm in my 20s like you know we're cool whatever i'm hip but then i was thinking i'm like shit i'm almost 10 years older than the guy and i kind of dawned him bro bro denny this is true i was at my spanish class i'm not doing a fucking bit i was at my Spanish class and my teacher asked me how many grandchildren I have. Oh shit. How about that motherfucker? Yeah. Actually, I was like, I was like, I was like, I didn't know how to say I'm offended in Spanish, but I was, I was like, what? Quantos nietos Tienes. Yeah. Fuck you. Yeah. Serro. Oh, fuck. Danny, you ever wonder what your neighbors do when you're at work? Like, you know, you get a package delivered and you know you look at the ring
Starting point is 01:54:49 Cameron you see some weird shit like this. Also LT I want to point out someone sent this to me and said you used to live nearby. Did you is that true? My dad grew up in Lawton, Oklahoma. Okay. And if you've never been to Lawton, Oklahoma, yeah buddy. Hell yeah, son.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Bang those boxes. You sure that's not a clip of BC? It might be. I just don't know what he's doing in Oklahoma. Was there a showbox card there? Bro, Lawton, Oklahoma is where Fort Sill is, which I had to spend time the Marine Corps in because it's the home of like basically the the military's artillery facilities there's other ones but it's a big one and it's not I'm telling you you drive down
Starting point is 01:55:27 lot in Oklahoma it's nothing but um bail bondsman and pawn shops the entire hunter and uh pawn stars let's go uh Gillian Robertson by the way weighing in right now with the box oh waiting for the announcement fitsy where are you oh they wait to pull the box out. Here I'm talking shit about I think she got a con in suede.
Starting point is 01:55:54 I think she made it guys. I don't think we have to worry. All right. Next up, LT. We got for you. Fatima Klein.
Starting point is 01:56:05 She's young. I'll say 27. Oh, she is even younger than that, LT. She is 25 years old. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:56:20 You ever seen when those brands make like collaboration things like i don't know like an orio teamed up with you know fucking the pudding company to make like oreo flavored pudding like that this would be if me and bc teamed up to make something uh dong island iced tea l t would you would you eat slash drink this if i was with brian campbell and he egged me on yes independent of in person brian campbell peer pressure no but i've definitely seen bryan campbell Brian share the video of the guy at Yankee Stadium who used the glizzy as a straw in his beer.
Starting point is 01:56:59 You guys seen that one? Yep. Yep. Have you seen this shit? He loves that fucking video. So there is a circumstance where I would. Yeah. I got to say like on a dare like I'm not doing that in my spare time alone.
Starting point is 01:57:11 But like if someone's like, yeah, I'll give you 20 bucks to fucking eat the dog island. I would do it. I think I would. Danny, would you eat it or no? You're not into it. No, see, I like nice things in life. Speaking of nice things, Danny, how old is Montel Jackson? Oh, fuck, that's a hard one.
Starting point is 01:57:33 I will say this man is 31 years of age. Oh, he is a little older than that, Danny. He is 33, LT. Good job. Danny, I recently came across a Gringo's trip to Columbia, and I got to tell you how accurate this depiction is. I think I'm in the wrong part of Columbia, but they said I'm family here. So I got to drink some of this. First Day of Columbia. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Yeah, they robbed me and took everything I have. Cheers. First day in Columbia. What a warm welcoming. Is that pretty accurate? It can happen, especially if you go to Maine, Jean, man. You know, people try to, you know, meet a lady of the night. And next thing you know, all their shit's gone.
Starting point is 01:58:21 I mean, I'll say this, ask the gringo, because Danny is not a gringo, but I am. I've had nothing but very safe and fun times, but I've also been protected by my family. I was going to say, you're surrounded by non-day. Yeah, yeah. No, they've protected me,
Starting point is 01:58:32 obviously. But I'll just say, like, when I'm down there, Danny, and I'm sure you've seen it a million times too. You'll see the gringoes in the middle of the, like,
Starting point is 01:58:38 you'll be walking somewhere and you'll see them. And it's like, oh, you're a target. You know what I mean? You know what I'm talking about? Like, you'll be,
Starting point is 01:58:46 you can just tell us in New York City, too. Don't you? I feel the way in New York City, too. You look at certain people. right now you're going to get your shit taken real quick. Yeah. I mean, you may not be robbed like this asshole was robbed,
Starting point is 01:58:59 but they'll find a way to get your money if you're not careful in certain places. Yeah, yeah, be careful. All right, L.T. How old's Tim Elliott? Oh, fuck. He's older. 39. You nailed it again.
Starting point is 01:59:10 He was 39 years old. Can't do this on prop quiz. I know. You know, I was looking back at it, though, L.T. And you lost to Jed, who is now in the final of prop quiz. And you lost to BC. the first time who won that final so really you're just kind of losing that you're getting you're getting kind of screwed over with these matches i'm like i'm like that guy who just can't break
Starting point is 01:59:33 through right i can beat the good fighters but not the great ones you know we need to get you against another defeated fighter you got to get me against the fucking scrub that's what i need i need i want to do not that chuck's a scrub i want to do you versus chuck though just just just fitful but you know there we go all right uh danny next up for you we got calil roundtree junior i'm making dan you're making dandy do a lot of Blackfighters. I'm just pointing that out. I actually go this. I make sure I get one of each weight class in there. And they look mad youthful. It's hard to gauge these ones.
Starting point is 02:00:03 I feel like he's been around the game for quite some time. I feel like 35. Ooh, Danny. Can I try? How old? I'm going to say 38. No. Danny was closer. It was 36. Oh. Danny, while you were close, you know, you were still short.
Starting point is 02:00:23 kind of like this guy here trying to cross this lake. I mean, you could see things are a little hairy. You think he's going to make it? I mean, is there a motherfucking alligator that's about to jump out and eat this? No, no.
Starting point is 02:00:35 I think he makes it, dude. I think. Danny, how many times have you ever just been walking by a joint and seen like a big ass alligator somewhere in South Florida? Oh, you bitch. Oh,
Starting point is 02:00:44 oh, dude, those rocks got edges too, man. They're not smooth. It's like, it's like ass wipe. Let go of the tackle box on the way
Starting point is 02:00:53 down use it to brace your fall something uh l t you know heavyweight is stacked i got to give you a ranked heavyweight here so i'm sure you know how old mick parkin is holy fuck he's english keep that in mind oh god damn um so then what is he 16 uh i don't know let me think here i'll just go flat 30 damn dude you're too good at this you yeah he is 30 but i I feel like I got to show this anyway. Remember when BC was doing DoorDash? Hey, what the fuck? Now, remember when BC was doing DoorDash and you were like, guys, seriously, check in on Brian Campbell.
Starting point is 02:01:36 Yeah. Guys, seriously, checking on Brian Campbell. Well, at least he wasn't doing things like this, dude. I mean, God damn. Are we sure that's not Brian Campbell? Really not that bad. There was a video that went with this. It was a little too much.
Starting point is 02:01:47 But, you know, I had to show just the glory hold. Glory hot dogs or whatever it is. Anyways, Danny, last for you. We got. No, they are not dark-skinned. Norma Dumas. God. Have I gotten one right?
Starting point is 02:02:02 You've been close like three times. People usually never get them right. LT's just having a good day today. Yeah, that's true. I would say 34. Oh, Danny, you were close. She is 35 years old. See what I mean?
Starting point is 02:02:15 You've been like one year off like four times now. Danny, you made a reference earlier to ice. And obviously there's been a lot of ice videos going around. So I figure, you know, might as well show another one here. Here's a bunch of people. falling on ice oh these motherfuckers are what where in europe is this i don't fucking know man i was just hoping you guys would you show you a nice video because we don't have nice architecture yeah i mean just the small cars and like yeah like you know
Starting point is 02:02:49 i mean i guess it no hotel concordia i don't know where that is well that's it guys you know maybe some of those were not that great but anyways that was that last video was a done Well, I was trying to make you think it was ice, you know, like Trump, ice. And, you know, it went. It's all good. All right. Good job, Long Island in general.
Starting point is 02:03:07 Really appreciate your contribution today. Oh, by the way, Long Island, what do you've got to plug? You drop quiz, Aaron, right after this 24 minutes. We got Ben the Bain Davis taken on Mike Bond. Winner faces Jed in the final for $100 and hot sauce. Also doing a full card watch along tomorrow. I'll be live at 445 Eastern Time. Be there.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Bro. This Chris Curtis McDebac oral by. This motherfucker will do full card watchalongs, Danny, for these Apex car. Full card watch alone. I respect the awesome, man. That is. That is a grind. Tomorrow should be better, but that's a grind typically.
Starting point is 02:03:43 All right, Danny, what do you got going on for coverage? Are you covering any advice this weekend? What do you want to plug? Yeah, for my English work, check out MMA junkie. It will be all there. And for my Spanish language content in MMA, check out, Ablemus, M.A. And of course, you can find me on social media. at Danny Seguera. That's across
Starting point is 02:04:00 Danny Seguera, sorry, some asshole took at Danny Seguera across all platforms. There you have it. Danny, great job today. Really appreciate it. A reminder, of course, you can see all the socials here below. The shirts, morningcombat.shop. These are for all the, well, three designs, but then one of them, of course, is available both in the hoodie and the T-shirt. That's available until the end of this month. There's the Trasher one.
Starting point is 02:04:24 There, of course, is the Delta 8-1. and then there, of course, is the McDonald's Wi-Fi. These are all available until the end of the month. Last but not least, Morningcombat at g-mo.com to reach the show. Danny, I'm sure we'll have you on again soon. Thank you so much for taking part in this. We really appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:04:41 So for Long Island, Luke, for Danny, I'm Luke Thomas. We'll see you guys on Monday. We'll react to everything then. And until then, may all of your gains. Oh, wait, yes, that's right. I'm sorry. May all of your gains, be loyal. This is an I-Heart podcast.
Starting point is 02:04:54 Guaranteed Human.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.