MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Singapore Picks | PFL Results | Usyk vs. Dubois | Fury vs. Ngannou | Ep 481

Episode Date: August 25, 2023

On Episode 481 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian give their picks for UFC Singapore. The boys also recap the PFL playoffs and preview the weekend of boxing fights. What should we expect in Usyk vs. Dubois? We close out this friday with Dead Wrong and a Gringo's guide to Colombia. (8:20) - Ok, Bet (37:20) - PFL Playoffs Recap (56:00) - Weekend Boxing Preview (64:30) - Mike Tyson on Fury-Ngannou (77:00) - Michael Venom Page (90:00) - Dead Wrong Morning Kombat is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts.     For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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we got a great show to set the stage ahead of UFC Singapore with some okay bet. Look back on an incredible PFL playoff night back on Wednesday evening and touch on the odds and ends. Maybe do a little gringos in Columbia breakdown from you. Interested in getting into that fun segment, but it's Friday. We roll out the balls like every gym teacher slash football coach who would

rather go into the office and sip hooch than teach to the kids of America. We're going to have some fun just the same today. I know it was the great, amazing Tukesters' first day of school today, if I can share that publicly. And I got a lot of love across the way to my favorite Thomas. Big day. Big day. Violeta's first day of school.

Very excited about that. That was a lot of fun and a lot of terror this morning. But we got it done. What would you say about the combat sports slate of fights? I would call it not premium, but definitely not garbage. I don't think that's fair. Heavyweight championship of the world will be at stake unboxing on Saturday. Not garbage.

Not garbage. I mean, you know, okay. But also Mike Tyson saying some wild ass shit. We'll talk about that. Speaking of wild ass shit, I'm on like day nine of diarrhea. This is great. Man, this show has turned to shit indeed luke i wear this uh t-shirt with purpose i do want to shout out the uh the untimely passing at age 36 of uh wyndham rotunda aka bray wyatt a a legend when it comes to character development and storytelling in this WWE run.

And, you know, a third-generation superstar, the son of IRS Mike Rotunda, the grandson of Hall of Famer Black Jack Mulligan, the nephew of Barry and Kendall Windham. This one hurt, Luke. I don't tend to follow the wrestling space day to day, but I don't know if you've had any exposure to the great Bray Wyatt, who it's looking like the reports say had basically a heart attack that was fueled by a COVID heart issue. But man, this one was tough to take.

Wrestlers die young, Luke. That's what they do. This one was tough, though. Did it hit you at all? No. I mean, I didn't. I don't know who he is. But I have the it's hard to explain this like i all the people that i know that really like pro wrestling

really liked that guy if that makes sense because he's the only name that kept kind of circulating bray wyatt bray wyatt bray wyatt in either in conversation or on social media but you know what are you gonna say 30 was he 36 years old 37 years old whatever it was dude that's just insanely insanely uh untimely really quite tragic and um i did see this also didn't terry funk who was sort of like a legend of the of the game great pull he died this week too yeah i mean like a bad week for pro wrestling unfortunately i mean a i mean you can do a whole show on the legend of terry funk in so many ways a great actor too people have never brought that up a lot but uh hate to see that but how about a good call out Luke today The 16th wedding anniversary

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So, like, there's a big reveal coming. Everyone kind of knows what it is at this point. We're just really waiting for the date. It is eminent and super. I'm really excited to get the merch. I mean, we had a while there where the merch was just on a roll and, you know, kind of fell by the wayside for a lot of different reasons but we're back and cooking yeah cannot wait for you guys to see this cannot wait

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To some people, I guess. To some donks. But not us. We won't give a shit. We have zero shame. Go vote for us. And if you like Friend of the Program, Aaron Broadstetter, he's up for MMA Journalist of the Year. Ariel as well, who has had that on lockdown.

Shout out to Ariel. It's been an incredible streak. I mean, let's be honest. He's probably going to win again, right? He might beat us in Best Show. It's up to the fans, Luke. It's up to the fans, okay? That's what it is at the end of the day. You know what's up to the fans, Luke. It's up to the fans, okay? That's what it is at the end of the day. Very good. All right. You know what's up to us?

Making typically pretty bad picks across the board, but we're here for the long haul. You know it's called OK Bet. Luke and I go head-to-head every week that we can, five picks apiece, and in the end, one of us will go to a concert that, damn, did we not want to go to. Luke, I'm going to be optimistic. I'll bet you we get the MK doc cams theres there we get jake von amsterdam up in the bullpen so we

really we really are going to experience this at the end your updated standings because three weeks ago luke how about this for success you and i combined for nine out of ten picks correct you going five and oh which i think we've only each done once in the past i went four and one on that ass pretty good before i show you the updated standings here's the intro this one's called okay bet and luke thomas i'm getting closer but you're holding you're holding serve here 61 55 and three is the plus 500 record of luke thomas at the moment i'm at 58 and 61 so luke almost 500 almost i refuse to go away bro i'm like clay collard right now right i refuse and and and there we go uh you are the champion the reigning week-to-week champion. You can go first or second, Luke.

You've got champion's advantage. UFC Singapore, which will take place, a reminder to folks, 8 a.m. Saturday morning Eastern time, the start of the main portion of this card, which we broke down in detail on Wednesday. Pretty damn good card for an in-between fight night. Definitely four, five, six fights worth focusing on. Luke Thomas, you going first or second here?

I'll go second. I'll go second. All right. First, look, for the main event, we try to pick the biggest fight of the weekend. There's two big ones. So because they're both lopsided and potentially one-sided in terms of the odds, we allowed ourselves to go either way. So, Luke, I'm going to go with the boxing.

We're going to preview in a second what this may or may not mean. But unified heavyweight champion Alexander Usyk is in Poland on Saturday. And he's going to welcome one loss rising heavyweight Daniel Dubois. As the odds from our friends at Caesars stand at the moment, it is minus 1,000 for Usyk plus 600 for Dubois. Luke, I don't Think that like necessarily Explains this Matchup and we have talked a lot Both together and when you were gone about

Boxing odds in general you remember Luke you Were there at the MGM Oxon Hill Maryland card in which Gabriel Maestre of Venezuela Shocked and knocked out Trayvon Marshall When he was like a nearly 1,000 underdog. I'm going to go Alexander Usyk here. For all the reasons you expect,

he's an A-plus heavyweight. Dubois is not. I mean, that pretty much sums it up, but this is not a shot in the dark. We're going main events here. I'm going to pick Usyk to win. Okay, fair enough. So I'll go to mma side of things again you know there's not much of a breakdown that's really necessary we kind of went over ufc singapore on wednesday the odds by the way bc when we did wednesday show max holloway according to our friends at caesars was a minus 750 he's now moved to even minus 800 so like it's only from the odds perspective getting worse so listen could korean zombie win he? He has a big punch, and it's always possible but highly unlikely. Give me Max Holloway in my main event pick.

Luke, this is the last time we'll be able to really focus on this fight. One thing we missed in the buildup that a lot of people DM'd us and said, how did you guys not talk about this? Apparently this is the final fight of TKZ's career, or is expected to be, and that's why the UFC was so willing to sort of make a potentially on paper lopsided matchup. Yet it is two featherweight legends who circled kind of each other in this division for a long time, but just never crossed paths. Remember TKZ did have the big gap of military service in the middle there. So if this

is it for TKZ, Lukeke do you think he will have a better chance than the odds and the you know sort of fan and media reaction is telling you against a max who against arnold allen still looked like he was super elite yeah no i mean listen if it is in fact i saw some of the headlines too that if this is his final fight let's assume that it is right like this is going to call it a close when When do you ever get a great MMA exit? Like, dude, if anything, it's going to be. Robbie Lawler and Amanda Nunes. Yeah, that's it.

That's about it. Okay, but she went out as champion, not like, you know, sort of a faded version of herself. She went out on top, and that's different. You know, I'm talking about the people who are not Habib, the people who are not Amanda Nunes, or, you know, even George St. Pierre against the Hendricks fight went on his hands and knees a little bit, even though he won controversially.

But you know what I'm saying, dude? It's going to be more like Frankie Edgar at the Garden than probably anything else. So, you know, between how good Max has looked and everything else, it's probably going to be sad and, you know, kind of a bummer. I don't know. I have a feeling with it, if we're really going to play the last fight element to this that TKZ is going to be willing to dial a bit back more into the original persona we came to know him as as the blood and guts warrior who will walk in with his hands down and not care Luke do you think there's an element there where because Max is not a decorated finisher although

let's let's give him the respect of having knocked out Jose Aldo in consecutive title fights, that TKZ may be able to linger and turn this into the violent entertainment we expect. Sure. Yeah. I mean, listen, everyone's kind of been like, oh, Max is going to beat the shit out of him. I actually think it could be more competitive than that, even what the odds might say i mean yes tkz looked real bad against volkanovski but most people look kind of bad against volkanovski at least in the this version of him anyway the more recent version of him so you know what does that mean really it's i don't know exactly what that's yeah he's not on that level and look kind of bad but before that he gave dan ige some real trouble and dan ige is a talented guy the problem is that was 2021 we're now in 2023 so

you know his best win or his best most recent win was um two years ago so like look do I think uh and Max is kind of hittable we've seen that before as well so listen if Max's chin is degraded in some kind of way at age 31 with a lot of miles it could definitely be a lot more competitive it's just like again dude like when max is moving downhill on you in a five round fight with that pace he puts on you over seven strikes landed per minute which is exceedingly high yeah could it be competitive and fun absolutely does tkz have a big punch no doubt about it always good for theatrics it's just like again hand raised or not hand raised who you pick in max, right?

Yeah, absolutely. I think that's, that's a safe and good call. Let's go over to our favorite of the week. Luke, I love this matchup. We've talked about what's at stake here and how much we love it. It could be the third best fight on the card or, or second, if it plays out really competitively, it's a featherweight matchup. Giga Chikadze, Alex, Bruce Leroy, Caceres, both have won seven of eight in the octagon. The questions about them are a little bit different, as are the expectations. Look, for Chikadze, he had won seven straight since entering.

Remember, he lost his Dana White Contender Series fight, won two fights on the regional scene, came in seven straight wins and looked to be in this same category of, like, who's next at featherweight, who the hell is coming the hell on a position that Toporia has taken over. But Chikadze losing that pretty damn wide and surprisingly wide decision to Calvin Cater has reset our expectations. On the flip side,

you got Bruce, Bruce Leroy, who very quietly at age 35 is, is kind of starting to figure it out. Minus 250 for Chikadze, though. I like it, Luke. He's the better fighter of the two. He's the more dangerous one.

Can we try to frame that loss to Cater and how wide it was as an aberration and then notice that it has been a long time since he's been in there? While that certainly can fuel the questions about it, meaning that he's been gone for, what is it, 18 months, I got to believe, Luke, he comes back strong with a bang. And although I've liked the work of Caceres somewhat quietly to sort of reestablish his name as a contender, there are levels to this fight.

If Giga can reset here with the time off and the frustrating loss, he's still a major player in this division at age 34 and a hammer that is knocking on that door I think this is a smart and safe bet give me Giga at minus 250 yeah I like that one too I think he's just also like who's got the more known brutality quotient it's Giga Chikadze right like he's just a bit of a hammer in that way um for my favorite pick it pick, you'll be proud of me. I didn't pick someone who was like minus 8 billion or something. I know we're not supposed to, but you get the idea.

But I did pick someone who is a Room Service Diaries alumnus. In this particular case, give me Erin Blanchfield. She's sitting at minus 160 over Tyler Santos at plus 135. Again, we kind of went over this one to a degree on Wednesday, BC, but I'm going to

pick her because Santos, as we said before, really does have the better overall positional jujitsu, and I really want to highlight how important that could be in stifling someone, especially in a three-round contest. It could be a real big deal, but she goes to decision a lot, and I still think, though, that on the defensive end Blanchfield will be able to um not get overwhelmed if something goes poorly and then the other moments really kind of put it on her particularly in the standing department so we're going to see it's a big test of Erin Blanchfield but so far man she just looks better and better every single time it's a tough fight it's a close fight but give me Erin Blanchfield as your favorite at minus 160 to get

her hand raised in Singapore so I'm glad that it played out that we're making the picks on this fight in consecutive order as we slide into the underdog category. Luke, I've talked ad nauseum how much I love this fight. I do think that based on the information we do have, you're a little bit more confident at the totality of Blanchfield's striking game, because I do wonder if there's some levels, even though a reminder, I'm ultra high on what Blanchfield is doing and the momentum and the confidence and just the, I mean, she's 24 years old and she acts like this is like playing, you know, pickleball with your buddies or something. Yeah. I'm going to go in there and I'm going to win the title at 120. Okay. She's destroyed people. Has it been fool's gold though? Was, was Andrade Matt, you know, cashing herself out and there to

be stopped was the Molly McCann win, which we understand the levels and the difference there that really helped Blanchfield announce herself as someone? Was that a little bit of a fool's errand? Here's what I think at the end of the day. They're going to go the distance, and it's going to be competitive. But if I can get Tyler Santos at plus 135 or wherever the odds landed at, and she's fresh off, I get it with a gap in at. And she's fresh off. I get it with a gap in time, but she's fresh off that performance against Valentina Shevchenko,

where she nearly did what Alexa Grasso ended up doing, which was shock the world. Tyler is big for the division. And I I'm wondering here, Luke, if she can neutralize the wrestling success, the Blanchfield has had the overwhelming dominant wrestling success and make this a striking fight over 15 minutes could Tyler Santos just be tough enough difficult enough to leave it close where look you know it may come down to who landed more or or who

was demonstratively pushing the fight forward I think this is the first time we're going to see some pushback against Aaron Blanchfield and I think if I can get Tyler Santos at plus money giving that size experience and probably what is a chip on her shoulder to the idea of how quickly she's been forgotten. She was not granted the immediate rematch that she might've deserved for such a disputed outcome. I know she had some issues with her team, not being able to get a visa, which, which canceled this fight originally in February. And then of course the whole drama about her may or may not have been paying her team enough and all of that.

I think she's going to come in super motivated. Her side of the story is kind of falling a bit under the radar in terms of how excited we are about Blanchfield. I would not be surprised here if Tyler Santos kind of just equals Blanchfield out in most categories and then does enough to get her hand raised in a close competitive, hard decision where Blanchfield will kind of have to reset. What things do I need to just work a little bit more on look she's 24 she's incredible but we've largely outside of that Aldridge fight only seen her in first gear this will be the fight she's got to show more gears and this will be the fight I think

she gets what most people get is that early competitive loss that truly teaches them I think she gets what most people get is that early competitive loss that truly teaches them. I think you cannot overlook Santos at plus 135, and I'm taking it. All right. Yeah. I'm a little surprised by that, but, you know, what are you going to do? Mikey, can we show the face off here as we talk about this fight at the moment? Look, I got fired up watching this. Nothing too crazy, nothing too juicy.

Now, did you get fired up or horned up? Which one? I knew that was coming. Nothing too crazy here. Nothing did you get fired up or horned up which one i knew that was coming nothing too crazy here nothing too juicy good intensity from blanchfield but you see the size luke this is blanchfield's got a got an exam on saturday a very difficult one yeah i like that i like the way you put that because also mikey one more time roll it and just watch the very beginning as they as they face off here not a huge difference in size but the person and i'll double check this it looks to me like the person with the longer limbs is actually tyla santos which is going to aid in her particular

skill department right which is jujitsu like she's going to be able to do sort of body triangles and whatnot so if you look at the dimensions yeah she, she's got a two-inch reach advantage. And we don't have the leg reach or anything like that, but I'm going to guess that that's more substantial as well. That's only going to aid her. That can aid you on if you do inside tripping, if you do outside tripping, a double to an outside trip, body triangles, any kind of guard work, obviously, any kind of lengthy appendage like that from your arms and your legs, if you know how to use it and we have clear evidence that she does, it can really age you. So I like the way you put that. It's an exam. I just feel like it's one Aaron Blanchard's going to pass, but you are right to say that she's a real threat. Before I throw it over to your underdog pick, uh, Mikey put out a poll in our live chat. So hopefully everybody was able to swim aside from the misogyny, racism, and dead bodies from the Titanic that are still floating in there, Luke. And the poll was, who's a better lock to win on Saturday from our main event picks?

Is it Max Holloway against TKZ or Alexander Usyk against Daniel Dubois? 60% say Max is a better lock at the moment. Luke, will you trust those folks? Yeah, I think that's about right. Sure. Okay. I can't believe you passed on this as a Connecticut guy, but you also don't listen to apathy,

so your Connecticut credentials are certainly in question. But I will say for the underdog, give me Parker Porter over Justin Taffa. Now listen, I don't have a strong inclination about it. And to be clear, listen to the odds. Our friends at Caesars have this contest. Parker Porter at a plus 125, Justin Taffa minus 150. It's a close fight.

It's a close fight. It could go a million different ways. But I got to tell you, BC, Parker Porter, 14 and 8, has a lot more experience. Now, he's a lot older. He's 38 years of age. But his last contest against Braxton Smith, who, yes, was very much overmatched, and he did lose to Justin Taffa. I'm just sort of pointing out, you know, the guy has made some improvements. He has lost a bunch of weight. It has made him more mobile. It's a heavyweight contest. If Taffa gets way too

out in front of himself, a guy like Parker Porter does have enough skills to make him pay. And hey, fuck it. Why not? The guy's from Connecticut. Let's throw a couple of shekels his way in terms of the betting. Give me Parker Porter as an upset. upset i'll take it that's what scared me in picking him either way because he's a connecticut guy and i got to stop making emotional pics about women in the ufc i like and people i'm i'm down with luke so i avoided that completely but never forget that parker pro parker posey here fought uh john jones in his third pro fight in 2008 outside of the UFC. Like that's the most wild and ridiculous random early resume stat that I remember in a while, Luke, outside of maybe that what's his name?

That force Griffin fought, you know, Dan Severn, who fought like 300 consecutive fights in the state of Michigan, probably still fighting. Look, probably still fighting right now. As we speak just somewhere in a stuck East parking lot. Yeah. Him and Jeremy Horn just adding to their respective records every other hour.

But yeah, there you go right there. That'll be interesting to see. It comes down to whether Parker Porter's in shape. He was in shape last fight. He seemed to be a different fighter, even at this late age. But here we go to the tour of Taffa. Let's hope. I mean, I really, you know, I'm already regretting the pick.

I mean, I'm picking a, you, I mean, I really, you know, I'm already regretting the pick. I mean, I'm picking a, you know, Connecticut white guy over, you know, a Polynesian Pacific Islander. That's probably like a real bad bet, but fuck it. I'm locked in. So the difference between you and me is I want you to be at a jam band show. Luke, that's the difference between you and me. I think right now, uh, I'll go over to the category of over under. Will it go the distance? Yeah, Luke, I did take the easy way out here. I was waiting for you to use your championship advantage and stop me. But Aldrich versus Na on the preliminary card of the UFC, of course,

J.J. Aldrich against Liang Na, women's flyweight bout. It doesn't matter in this case who wins, Luke. Statistically, are they going to go the distance? Probably. Aldrich does not have a stoppage win in the UFC. She's been submitted a couple times, though. This is safe, and you let me have it. This is me standing on the other side of the court,

allowing my team to play four on five and pick up ball, hoping the team misses so they can throw me a full-court cherry picker, Luke. You talked a gang of shit about how I was, you know, just absolutely welfare cleaning the system. Just, I mean, just abusing and using it. And then all of a sudden you realized, wait, there's a meth. If you can't beat them, join them. The Brian Campbell story, huh?

If you can't beat them off Luke,, then just subscribe to their OnlyFans. That's how I live my life. You know what I mean? I told you, when I was in the fraternity, we did an event with a sorority, like some kind of, I don't know what the philanthropy was, and we made shirts that they didn't know about, but then when they had to wear it, this is awful. I was 20 years old.

What are you going to do? Actually, I wasn't even in charge of this, but I did wear the shirt. If you can't beat us on the field, beat us off was really the name of the game. Wow. That's great. It looks like the glory days of misogyny. Yes, that's great. I look back at my time from like anything I did up to the

age of 25 and I'm like, Jesus, I was really stupid and awful. I've learned a lot since then. I'll say that. Thank you for that growth and evolution. Does it go the distance or not? I am going to say This is, uh, I've learned a lot since then. I'll say that. Thank you. Thank you for that growth and evolution. Um, all right. From, for my, uh, does it go the distance or not? I am going to say, give me Smith versus span. The rematch will not go the distance on the first one.

Didn't even get out of the first round. Now, of course I might be jinxing myself and they could take a much more different approach and be calculated and it kind of sucks and whoever, I don't know. I just don't buy that. I don't, I don't really buy that sometimes, you know, Smith, I think is long in the tooth, I don't know. I just don't buy that. I don't, I don't really buy that sometimes, you know, Smith,

I think is long in the tooth and I don't know if his body's going to hold up. That's sort of one thing to pay attention to span. I do think is just his best chance of winning is, is trying to move downhill on a guy trying to corral him, which just creates for better action. I mean, yes,

I certainly see a case where a more considered approach would lead to a decision in this one, but you know, I had to pick one that you didn't. And so in that case, give me Smith versus span, not going the distance. All right. So I got a chair for a span to have the offensive wrestling success of a home invader. So this becomes a stalemate Luke that goes the distance here. I'm cheering outright for Anthony Smith, just so you know, okay. i'm cheering outright for a guy that i really mean you're saying that you're cheering out i don't know if you're actually cheering out right i am cheering for factory town mma's finest anthony smith thank you uh ko or sub luke i'm gonna go back to connecticut here i feel this is a safer way to play this parker porter

on the tour of Taffa against Justin Taffa I don't know who's gonna land the big one Luke uh the odds might favor Taffa in that regard let me see what are the odds of the official odds on this fight Taffa a minus 150 favorite plus 125 for Parker Porter somebody's gonna get KO'd in a heavyweight fight including one or two fat guys look yeah this is the odds right i'm gonna go under on this the ko um i i don't have a great pick on this one because of all the ways we had to kind of work around stuff because it's not a great card there's a lot of names on here that are you know barely hanging on to a ufc uh contract at this point so give me toshio me

excuse me toshio me kazama taking on Garrett Armfield. This is a bantamweight contest. Kazama sitting here at 26 years of age has a fair amount of finishes on his win. In fact, if you go through his days in Pancraze, he lost his opening bout via decision. After that, wins via stoppage, wins via stoppage, wins via stoppage, and a lot of these ground and pound, heel hook, arm lock, arm lock, and it goes on and on from there. BC Garrett Armfield joins us here at 26 years of age. He lost his opening UFC bout to David Onama via arm triangle, but he has some weird naked chokes up and down here as well.

So give me the fight in this particular case. Give me the Kazami versus Armfield bout ending via sub could be totally fucking off on this one you actually might take the lead with your picks here if i'm being candid with you but we are where we are thank you thank you for being candid uh so i'm three wins back but you do have two more uh three more ties than i do so i wonder i'm about three and a half games back right i i know i already showed you my SAT math skills. My point is, can I take over the lead this week if you have a disastrous outcome? Yes, I can, Luke. So I'm coming.

I think you hear me knocking, Luke. I think I'm coming in. I got hippies and weirdos, and I got hopefully a jam band show or something awesome there, okay? Can't wait. I'm going to take enough edibles to overdose. I want to be clear about that. And speaking of jam bands and edibles, a happy and amazing 59th birthday forever young to MK superfan, Oteel Burbridge,

Luke of dead and company fame, who is out with his Oteel and friends tour right now, getting rave reviews and has a new record coming out. Luke of Jerry Garcia, Robert Hunter, a dead era collection covers a hashtag. Let Oteel sing, by the way, does a beautiful China doll. Luke of Jerry Garcia, Robert Hunter, Dead Era Collection covers. Hashtag let Oteel sing, by the way. Does a beautiful China doll.

Just makes me want to tear up. But shout out to Oteel. We got nothing but good news today, Luke, okay? It's a good news program. I'm going to see Pantera in two weeks. How about that? All right. Where?

What location? D.C.? Well, they say Washington, D.C. Motherfucker, it ain't. It's way out in Virginia. It's a place called Jiffy Lube Pavilion. What location? D.C.? Well, they say Washington, D.C. Motherfucker, it ain't. It's way out in Virginia. It's a place called Jiffy Lube Pavilion. Oh, that sounds so redneck. Yeah, that's great.

Oh, it's super fucking redneck. It's the most redneck place on earth. Anyway, but, you know, I did the number where, like, it's one of these places where if you don't leave your concert early, you're going to be stuck in traffic trying to get out forever. Yeah. So I paid more for parking passes than I did for tickets and i bought good tickets all right that's a little late but i get it strategic i get why but that's a little bit old man like i'm going to scam the system i'm gonna i mean dude my wife my wife we obviously we just went on vacation

and she's like you know i don't understand people who stand up when the plane lands. And I'm like, right, you don't understand that I grew up in an insanely chaotic environment, and it has fucked up my brain to the point where I get anxiety if I don't stand up. I get anxiety if I don't crowd the gate before we board. I'm trying to solve for anxiety. That one time, one of my biggest pet peeves of you is when we were on that same flight that

time and they announced we will be boarding shortly, which to me means, oh, I got 25 minutes to go to the bathroom, get more food, like whatever. And you're like, BC,

they just called. We got to get up right now. We got to get in line. We got to go. And I'm just like, don't be that guy. Yeah. I'm that guy.

And I don't, and I want to be clear. Like, I'm not saying it's the best approach. I'm just saying I can't quiet the people who are telling me the world's going to end if I don't do those things. So you see what I'm saying? Look, we are all in this together and we are here for you and we love you. Yeah.

Don't do the things my parents did because then you end up with me is really the answer here. I'm a big fan of Rob Thomas, Luke. I would never push him they did some good things but i've got so much anxiety bro that i have to pay a shitload of money for a parking pass so i can get out on time but really what it is what it is uh are you an instant change the channel if um that song uh that rob thomas did with santana comes on that cannot leave your brain once it once it infests it. Um, cause you're so smooth.

You know, that song, I don't love it or hate it. I don't love it or hate it. I, you know what I don't like is the other one he did. Um, the,

I liked the guitar riff, but I don't like the song. It's like, it reminds me of a West side story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Growing up in Spanish Harlem. Yeah.

Um, the riff is sick. That one. It's is sick. That one, it's cool, but I'm not a Santana guy. Dude, Santana rules. I went back and bought the entire 70s collection. Luke, there's not a dud. Even the bad ones are great. I mean, I'm loving this.

Anyway, Luke, you don't care about that. No, and also our audience doesn't know who Santana is. Let's be clear about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, bet in the books. But before we get into our five topics this week, Luke, And also our audience doesn't know who Santana is. Let's be clear about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Bet in the books. But before we get into our five topics this week, Luke, we got some trend.

Tremendous. Excuse me. Bonus content available at youtube.com slash morning combat. Not just my chat with junior Dos Santos talking Francis Aganu, USADA, old balls, a lot of stuff ahead of his bare knuckle September 8th rematch with Fabrizio Verdum. Look, you had a hell of a sit down with Chito Vera before we throw to the clip to tease it. How was it talking to Chito Vera? Wow. I mean, Uncle Gringo.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All that stuff. Look, how good was it how was it tell me please chito was great he had just shaved so he was like in a good mood you know and um we talked tattoos i don't know if folks have been paying attention we didn't talk a whole lot about it but there was a political assassination in ecuador and uh for folks who aren't like like uh attuned to it dude ecuador is experiencing violence like col like Colombia did in the 90s. It's really, really, really bad. We talked about that because he was making a point.

I'm here in the States, but my mom, my dad, my cousins, everyone, they're all still back in Ecuador. It's a really, really, really bad time in Ecuador. But beyond that, I love talking to Chito because he already fought Sean O'Malley and he fought other like really decorated punchers like John Lineker and we kind of know the differences between O'Malley and Lineker but I got him to explain like when you're up against a guy like O'Malley who does have good power but it's different kind of power than a guy like Lineker

how do you explain how you navigated that what are the differences and he went into all of that plus bc to set this all up we played a game of rate that tat hell yeah let's see this shit mikey we're gonna show you some tattoos and you just give us your honest opinion i'm like you i'm a bold will hold kind of guy you know what i mean like i like american traditional i like japanese tattooing but we're gonna show you some some UFC fighters tattoos. You just give me the Chito Vera opinion. How's that sound? Alright, here we go. Let me pull up my list here. We're going to get going. First one up, we've got

Alan Belcher. Let's throw this one up here. What do you think of this one, Chito? That wasn't really a shitty tattoo. That's a 0 over 10. Alright, very good. Next is Darren Elkins. The damage on the chest there. Yeah, he's joining my man

Belcher right there. He's fighting his style. He's teaching his face and he went with those medals. Yeah, that's bad. That's not good. It's not my favorite either. Okay, a few more of these.

Austin Vanderford, he fights in Bellator. What do you think about the throat tat there? The eyeball. Yeah, that's really Cody Garvin right there. I mean, Cody pulled it out first, so yeah, you don't want to be second in those types. It's well done. It's a better

looking traditional one. I agree. I think it's a well done tattoo. I just wouldn't want it, if that makes sense. Yeah, too much color maybe. I mean, it says the guy with a lot of color, but yeah. All right. Dude,

he didn't hesitate to urinal cake his peers, Luke. No, I try to be a little bit political political about it like well it's not for me Cheetos like oh that shit sucks bro but god bless him I gotta get him on a have you seen this shit one day Luke because he would be brilliant he was just like yeah that does a shitty tattoo zero of ten yes great thank you very much all right Luke uh people can check that out morning combat or youtube.com slash morning combat uh very interested in watching the full length available

now let's transition into our five topics and luke we let's let's let's be honest we were supposed to preview the pfl playoffs on wednesday and we kind of ran out of time and didn't get to it it was a card worthy of uh of mention and the way it played out in the theater in madison square garden for a few of the marquee fights. This was worth your time. This was a great story coming out of the main event, but maybe an even better fight. The lightweight semifinals match Shane Burgos against clay collared. And Luke,

there were a lot of storylines coming in because of the controversial slash questionable way that Burgos even made the playoffs from the Natan Schultz situation. Then they went after round and put on a three round classic first and foremost, straight up Luke, is this the best fight in smart cage history? I think that it is. And I think that it is by a considerable margin. This is to me, the best fight in PFL history.

Now I'm not seeing every fight in pfl history but for a lot of the folks who have they're they're also saying this as well and if you guys missed it near an espn plus subscriber you can just go get it um on the on the platform there and you can re-watch it it was absolutely fantastic it was a shame that it was only three rounds i wish it could have been five and bc i really want to say something about this. First of all, Collard, you can tell how much work he's done in boxing and how much it has changed his game. The body work, the rib roasting from him. You can see here on some of these highlights.

Truly exceptional. Really, really good stuff. It gave Burgos problems. And that left hook, I mean, sat him down. By the way, it was a calf kick right before that left hook that had actually knocked Collard off of his feet. So it was back and forth, tit for tat. Assaulted.

Assaulted the inside of the left leg there of Collard to like maybe you're going to be limping when you're 60 levels. Like he beat the shit out of it. He beat the shit out of him. But I really want to say something about this fight. Like it was, there's been some great finishes that obviously this fight didn't have when it went to a decision. you know you might have a different fight or a different fighter in pfl that as a fan you care about if you're watching out there fair enough but what i think really

stood out to me bc and i'm being serious about this a lot of times when the people puts on a show because they have not really sort of created i think a dynamic um fan base yet for themselves i think you know signing jake paul and Paul and signing a little bit of the female boxers that they've signed and signing Francis, I think, will potentially move the needle in the other direction, a conversation for a different time. But what they did really well this time was they had a crowd decidedly behind Shane Burgos, at least one of the fighters in the cage.

And when you watch this fight, it wasn't just that the guys were back and forth which where they were it was great super great but on top of it dude the crowd was really into it they were at the theater at Madison Square Garden I believe oh my god man I've never heard a PFL crowd make a fight better in the way that this crowd did. A lot of times we talk about the pandemic fights and how much you miss the crowd and the crowd roars when there's action, but it was more than that, dude. They were a part of this fight in a way that you just don't typically get from the PFL experience.

Both guys not even trying to go for takedowns. Everyone did their part. And, you know, the matchmaking here, this was the fight that Shane Burgos was not supposed to be in. It was supposed to be the Natan Schultz fight where he was able to go ahead, and the whole thing, we discussed that previously. So the right guy won in the sense that

the person who had meaningfully won the whole way through and correctly won ends up getting their hand raised. But nevertheless, the matchmaking here worked out well for them. I think we can say that. The crowd their part everything about this just worked more of this pfl please i want to stay on that so just for the record clay collard wins a gotta be surprising unanimous decision 29 28 and all three cards we'll get to him in a minute because his story has been incredible but luke i've kind of outright took a big doogie in the middle Of the smart cage like the last four

Episodes and I do think rightfully so With everything from the Schultz controversy To the fact that like everything positive About PFL this year has been about building Toward next year which is putting a target On them and a lot of pressure let's see if they can deliver But I thought this year suffered with All the USADA incidents and all that

Or the drug popping incidents that led to them seeking out USADA But not only did this fight deliver I really, I focused much longer on this broadcast than I normally do I really enjoyed the broadcast So Dan Hardy into there, friend of the program We loved him on our London live show earlier this year I thought he was tremendous Especially I like him as an interviewer there

But I think, you know, I've always loved Randy Couture and the packages that they showed, along with the use of both Brett Okamoto and Ian Parker, the betting expert. I thought there were very smart usages of them. It just it was a very strong broadcast. Maybe it helped that the fights turned out to be very good. But Luke, now this brings back in uh clay collard that feature that they showed before the main event so i didn't realize collard who like his story is just so incredible already of going from journeyman to like somebody who's not going to be fighting for a million dollars

and floating between two sports and being the really the top ranked star of the boxing you know covid bubble um they showed that he had already lost a brother, and then his hero, his best friend in the world, his older brother, just died in a drowning, and it was Clay who rescued him, but rescued him too late. I mean, that's gut-wrenching. But as Clay's wife talked about, all that did was lead Clay directly back to the gym

with a focus that she had never seen before and to see clay collard essentially kind of square up and just go into the phone booth against a decorated ufc action star and pull off another one and now he's on the verge of fighting for one million dollars that's an incredible story and i really thought the pfl told it perfectly where where it hasn't been the best year for them, but they're rallying here in the playoffs. This was a good ass card. Luke, this clay college story. I don't think we can overplay it. This is absolutely incredible what he's done over the past three years. It's one of the best stories in combat sports. He's

not, you know, in boxing, we talk about there's guys who are called professional opponents, right? Another name for them might be journeymen, but they're professional opponents. It's guys who get brought in who, dude, they're not terrible fighters, professional opponents, right? They're not completely awful, but what they are is designed to be just a test for somebody who is really good for someone who like promoters believe does have a bright future. And Clay Collard was brought in, I think many times as a professional opponent, but dude, he, he didn't get the message. He's a professional spoiler. That's what he is. He's the

guy that shows up and beats the hometown guy. He's the guy that shows up and beats the promoter's favored son. He's the guy that shows up and ruins all the plans and does it in two sports. You just can't believe it. His story, I completely agree. We take dumps on every promotion when they deserve it or when we think that it's merited, but we also need to give them praise when it's warranted. I thought the PFL knocked this one out the park. I completely agree.

They really told that story very well, and Clay Collard is such a perfect guy for the PFL, for these last-chance redemption stories, for these guys that were never going to be promotional darlings and they just turned themselves into one. That's what he's become. If I was the PFL, listen, OAM won on the other side of the bracket and he looks like he's the best version of himself.

Clay Collard's got a tough-ass fight. Shane Burgos was stylistically favorable because he wasn't going to go for a takedown and he was counter punching and wasn't as active, at least not until the third round of this contest. And that really set up Collard's chances for winning. But, but OAM is going to be a different story. So I don't really know if he's going to win that kind of a contest. I guess we'll see when they fight, by the way, here in Washington, DC for the championships in a few months. But the point I just wanted to make was this guy's story is one of the best ones,

not just at MMA, in all of combat sports. You've got to love what he's done for himself. Really, really commendable. And PFL featuring him in the way that they have, it just works. It just works. Well, he just keeps winning, too, and that helps. But I didn't even know about the whole tragedy on that side of it so look he beat legitimate prospects in that in that pandemic running top rank to where there were people that were wanting to vote him for like most improved

fighter of the year or comeback fighter of the year or whatever or newcomer there whatever prospect of the year like he was getting recognition in that area but since returning to mma full-time in 2021 with pfl he's six and two overall and he's beaten anthony pettis jeremy stevens stevie ray and now shane burgos like the two losses were both decisions won by split decision and one of them to to haushman fio who's established in pfl uh this is incredible it's really incredible and luke like he did square up and was there to be hit he made this a brawl and burgos was willing to be in there with him and like i said was violently chopping up the leg but there's something to be said not just about the character and toughness of collard his boxing experience is translating so well to the to the

to the pfl because yeah he needs people willing to stand in front of him but the accuracy and the power is making a major difference in this case not just that did you see him did you see him rolling under hooks as well to get out of the way now again by the time the third round came on burgos was putting it on him so if that fight had gone five rounds who knows but for the first 10 minutes make no mistake about it he outstruck sh Burgos cleanly cleanly I want to talk about OAM in a second but let's talk about Burgos here Luke there's a trend going on right now and Burgos by the way wasn't the late end of his career washed up let's stop a PFL on the way home this was considered a not in his prime but a strong pickup as a free agent signing and I don't know if you recall but Dana White sort of blamed his team for not signing Burgos when they had a chance.

But what has PFL become for UFC vets? A place where we think they're just going to arrive and be a threat for the million dollars and beat up on second tier guys. But whether it's Pettis, Stevens, you know, Rory McDonald, insert name, Luke, they are not having big success in the smart cage. Something has to be said, obviously, about the seasonal format and the mental and physical grind that these guys go on. Yet here we have Shane Burgos,

who's only one win, two defeats in three PFL fights. Now, Luke, are we not talking enough that he was a featherweight stud in the UFC and these are lightweight bouts? What would you say about the PFL free agent experience for Shane Burgos overall? Well, in this particular fight, again, I think if it had been five rounds, I would have served him better. It was the main event, but it wasn't five rounds. Like, it would have been UFC. I think that's part of it.

Certain guys are going to be tournament guys, right? Certain guys are going to be like, I can turn around quickly. My game doesn't change much when I'm only doing three rounds or I don't have elbows or whatever. Certain guys' games are going to adapt better through that process. I think Burgos, you know, he's fought a lot of three-round bouts before, obviously, but in a contest like this, he would have been better served in five. I think that's part of it.

You know, I go back to this one. It's like, did he miscalculate did he miscalculate well on some level yes right on some level he did otherwise he wouldn't be one and two but like when he announced that he was going to make the move to pfl did any of us think that that was a bad idea no like no we didn't so i mean hindsight's 2020 now um i would just say this the thing about tournaments where you know you like why is oam doing really well versus not oam's game has gotten really complete right he knocked this guy down with his hands the last opponent he fought i forget the guy's name the one on wednesday he knocked him down with his hands and then finished him off on the ground he was always kind of a ground operator and didn't necessarily have the the skills on the feet well now he does so he's in a much more completed well-rounded stage which means no matter the kind of opponent no matter the

kind of notice he's he can play the levels however he needs to that That's really not what Shane Burgos has. Shane Burgos might benefit more, it turns out, from a matchmaker model where they can be like, okay, who would he go well against? And it worked well here where they put him against Clay in terms of the action. And again, if it had been five rounds, I think you maybe would have won. But you see what I'm getting at. If you're an action fighter that the promoter likes, but you've never really been in that title contendership, you have to kind of ask yourself does the tournament model work best for me and i know what they say oh i can beat that guy i can beat that guy right can you beat that guy under those circumstances where you're fighting every two months where you're fighting

only in three rounds where you're fighting without elbows and i think that that deserves much more consideration than it used to. It's a similar debate to me, BC. You don't have it as much anymore because it's just not really as relevant. But it used to be really relevant in the 2000s how a guy's games would translate from the ring to the cage or vice versa because it would really make a huge difference for the guys from Team Quest who were all wrestlers

and how that would change the dynamic about whether or not they had the cage to really work their game against. It's a similar kind of thing. It's not so much the opponent, although yes, that is true. It's the circumstances under which you are fighting. Is your game situated for that? And I think it turns out that Burgos is obviously quite talented, but I don't know that this kind of style works out best for him and if you've been an established ufc fighter which burgos has been and you're on a specific schedule it can't be easy to go back into the fire of fighting in a microwave and short turnarounds this is not ufc one through ten or whatever where you're doing one night tournaments

but this is a much shorter turnaround same thing when Bellator used to have the tournament format. We used to hear the same thing. It's a different mental and physical preparation. And you have to believe Luke, you are at the mercy of the results. You may win a first round fight, but it may create a nagging injury that you're shit out of luck. If that becomes a problem in your preparation or how you compete here. But also do you like him as a lightweight in this in this promotion why why is

he not fighting at feather do they not have a featherweight tournament that would decide it right partly partly that i think partly also you know again what kind of weight can you make if you have to fight consistently versus peaking and then going down then you have a fight like six months later and then you peak and you go down like there's a question of how fast he can get his body ready for that weight class um i would say that you know i tend to think we get better results from him at 145 than we do at 155 um in general so yeah that's not to say he couldn't do it at 155 it's just you know yeah i just think 145 is gonna be better for him i just want to ask you quickly before I talk about OAM. Is this becoming a negative for PFL's free agent shopping if fighters might not love this short season format? I know they have a pay-per-view division and a lot of the big names are going there, but is this a turnoff to potential guys in the midst of their prime who might be looking to exercise the free agent window strategically.

I'll just say this. I don't think the tournament is really the PFL's future. Not like the way they've been doing it, where it's just everything that they do and everything is built around it. We talked about this before ad nauseum. I won't belabor the point, but it's the same problem in 2013, 2014 that Bjorn Rebney ran into when he was doing this exact same model. If you really want to be in the pay-per-view business, if you really want stars, the matchmaker model has plenty of problems, but it is better than the other ones,

even for how much it sucks and how much it can be unfavored. I think if you really want to recruit talent, you want to keep them there, and you want to build stars, you have to pare back to a bare minimum. You have to pare back the tournament model and go matchmaker model,

and I think they will. I think you're right. Quickly here on OAM, we got to give him his flowers here. It was a second round knockout of Bruno Miranda, TKO, excuse me. He dropped Miranda and he really took his time on the ground, ended up in full mount and was able to produce a stoppage. The defending PFL lightweight champion is now 9-0 since coming to PFL and joining the Smart Cage back in 2021.

And that was after taking two years off when his UFC career ended with three straight defeats. This has been an incredible turnaround for him. Luke, he should be rightfully, I believe, the betting favorite here against Clay Collard. The names on his win streak of going 9-0 here do include Burgos already, Stevie Ray, Haush Manfeo, Natan Scholl, Marcin Held, Daryl Horcher.

Shout out to Daryl Horcher for being one of the most savage victims in Habib's run. Luke, this is really, really good. He should be the favorite to defend his title here. And what another physical breakthrough performance for OAM. Yeah, I mean, he was a guy I think the UFC let go to earlier. I'm not sure how he ended up parting ways and then signing with PFL in terms of whether it was acrimony or whatever. But this is what I mean. This guy

has a complete game and very, very experienced now as well, right? That's the other part too. Knows how to manage around, knows how to manage risk, knows how to beat guys, no matter what they're kind of doing for him and is really quite gifted kind of everywhere. That's that guy is going to be tough to beat, you know how to train knows how to fight knows how to work around knows how to make everything count in the right way i just you know clay collard story is incredible but the oam story is really one that shows like what kind of guy works in this model it's the kind of guy who is not quite at his peak but then really rounded out to this more complete game has all the experience everything i just mentioned,

bringing all of that to bear in a tournament like this. And by the way, physically strong for the weight class as well. He's a tough, tough out. This has been nothing but a blessing for him, and he's earned every bit of it. All right, so in the lightweight final, it'll be Collard versus OAM. And in the welterweight division, defending champion Sadabusi got a split decision win over Carlos Leal, and he'll be taking on former 2018 PFL champion Magomed Karamov, who advanced by division.

So we got some more finality here ahead of the D.C. final. But Luke, do you have any type of update? Because it has been quiet to the rumor that continues to die and rebirth that Bellator could end up in the hands of PFL. What do you know I don't have a small I don't have a big one I have a really small one but I was talking to some folks about this yesterday um it's still in the my understanding is it's still the PFL as the clubhouse leader for this my understanding is and again no one from Paramount told me this but um Paramount is still wanting to make the sale of bellator happen as soon as

possible uh the only thing that's kind of interesting is apparently the idea of keeping the brand separate has picked up some steam that that's something that they're very seriously considering which i think would be just a monster mistake um and i don't think that that would last at all but the the the minor update is pfl still your clubhouse leader to buy paramount wants to make it happen and that the brand separation apparently has a lot more legs than it once did which i think is a mistake but i guess we'll see what happens in the end there you go there you go um i agree with you if you're gonna do it you gotta you gotta do it for the names do it for the depth of the roster and the names and it wouldn't be nothing if they did that that's a

big move that's a big ass move look quickly here on topic number two we got championship boxing this weekend when three bell unbeaten unified heavyweight king alexander usek who tyson fury is busy with nganu busy with his reality series and not going after the most important fight in boxing to be very honest with you in terms of what that would mean. Usyk's going to defend against mandatory Daniel Dubois, 6'5", not small. We've seen Dubois before. We can go to the face-off early this morning in Poland after both weighed in. And there you see. Look at Usyk looking like Donald Trump at 220.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, 13-pound weight advantage for Dubois, 2-inch height advantage. Luke, Usyk's manager in the middle, when he puts on the shades, that's my doppelganger, right? Look at that. He's got a fatter face, but yes. It's pretty close. Can we split-screen this at all,

Mikey? Can we do it? Do we have that technology? I don't think we have that technology at the ready. I think I just turned into a six manager, right? I would take some time. All right. You got the, you got the joke. Hey Luke. So here's the thing on Dubois. He's been considered, you know, a future problem for a while. He's been very good at times, but he really only has one name on his resume, and that's Joe Joyce, and he did get stopped late and got his orbital bone dangerously broken.

You have been skeptical of this, so am I going to ask you this question or are you going to ask me, Luke? Let me ask you. Let me ask you, if I may. Let me flip the script if I can because we were talking about this fight and previewing it, and so here's the challenge I want to give you BC right I know you're hosting today but I'll do this part which

is give me a reason to care about this fight Alexander Usyk versus Daniel Dubois that has nothing to do with what fight is set up for the winner yeah yeah and I get that I get that. I get that.

So here's what I got to say. Like, obviously this should be Fury versus Usyk without question or Usyk against, you know, Deontay Wilder or whatever, right? Like what's the biggest fight available. It's a mandatory. So it's sort of a must do for a mandatory. This is a great opponent in Dubois. Now I just shared legitimate questions and I think those questions are real.

He's destroyed third tier B minus, you know, B minus heavyweights in the third tier variety. I don't dog him for the Joe Joyce loss under any circumstance. Those were two unbeaten rising fighters, uh, in Joe Joyce since then, although he did get upset by, by, um, by John, John and they're going to have the big rematch coming up. He's looked great at certain times since the Joe Joyce is a puncher. They got into a big fight. Dubois lost it. It's fine. That happens, but it was not on his level. But with this said, Luke, Dubois, like the best mandatory you can have, like there is a lot there and will it be enough to challenge you sick? No, what I'm probably going to tell you is more of the idea of him staying busy and setting up that eventual Usyk fight.

But the answer to your question is this. Compared to the option of having Usyk sit idle, you've got a chance to watch one of the 10 best pound-for-pound fighters in the game today, Alexander Usyk, who is in the midst of authoring one of the best all-time resumes and legacies that we've ever seen in boxing history from gold medalist in the Olympics to a first four belt undisputed cruiserweight champion after cleaning out that division to now on the verge of upsetting his way to that same

feat at heavyweight. We're only going to get him, Luke. He's what, 36, 37. We're only going to get him a handful of more times, right? Seeing him operate against at least somebody with a pulse and the threat of more, it's not like it's not worth your time. But is it groundbreaking in boxing? Is it super hype behind it? No, it's in Poland. It's going to be on ESPN+. I think the main event start is expected around the 5 p.m. Eastern time.

It's going to be a one-fight card. There'll be a triple header at night with Jared big baby Anderson, the main event, but I echo your womp womp sounding statement, but I do think these odds are ridiculous. Minus 1000 for Usyk. Dubois is big. He's got a pulse. He can fight. Should he be a problem in the end? No. If Usyk ends up stopping him and ultimately outclassing him, then I'm going to tell you that Usyk still got it at the top level and we need to have this fury fight happen right freaking now i mean here's the thing for me right tell me what i'm missing the the one really good guy he fought in in joyce

broke his fucking face yeah like it's not that i disagree that he has he has potential or that there's still time for him to turn the corner it's just like and in his last fight too i mean i guess there were some knee issues but he got dropped like what three times or whatever it was he came back and won against lorena larina however you say his last name yeah and uh you know it's not like he doesn't have potential but like every time the potential is or i should say the one time the potential had like a real chance to be actualized he got worked so it's like what am i i mean here's, right? 2023 has been an amazing year for boxing, but it doesn't mean every boxing fight, even one with some consequences, because there's some titles on the line here. It doesn't mean that we have to say it's also great. Like, I don't think

this one is also great. I just think it's a fight. Well, the reality of being a four belt champion is you're going to have mandatories and there's going to be a lot of the opponents who suck and we've never heard of them and so i'm taking that as sort of a in a bad case scenario this is a decent case um i got questions about dubois we'll answer that on saturday um would if this was wilder or ruriz instead if was just looking for biggest name available you'd be excited right rightfully so if it was wilder i would definitely be excited and even with the ruiz i would be excited, right? Rightfully so. If it was Wilder, I would definitely be excited. And even with the Ruiz, I would be excited. I'm not necessarily as much, but yes, yes. Anything where, you know, I felt like they were a real,

well, it's not that I don't think Dubois is a danger to Usyk. I just don't think he's enough of a danger to matter in the end. The other two guys I do think would be. So yeah, I would care a lot more. And I do believe Prince Nassim hamed's son i think it's pronounced adam his name is aadam um he is making i believe yeah i think he's making his pro debut saturday on the zone so that is certainly something worth watching and i mentioned in tulsa they're going to have that triple header uh the undercard begins 6 50 p.m eastern on espn

espn plus so luke jared big baby anderson is back here pretty quickly and he had a big close-up That triple header, the undercard begins 6.50 p.m. Eastern on ESPN and ESPN+. So, Luke, Jared Big Baby Anderson is back here pretty quickly, and he had a big close-up fight last time, and there was certainly a lot to lighten. Now, there was a late opponent switch. It ended up being former champion Prince Charles Martin, and I think there was equal, a lot to love, and then still some unanswered questions. He'll be facing Andre Rudenko in this one, and I'm going to be honest, I don't know a ton about Rudenko, despite the fact that he's got a pretty clean record here luke this

is another step in that advancement at least big baby staying busy but after that fight and that performance against martin do you think big baby's close to to really testing himself and really going to the title level i i think he'll wear out his welcome if he doesn't right i mean there's a lot of hype for him we've talked about like is he in this for the long haul even he tells you he's not in this for the long haul so how many of these rudenko fights can you really get away with probably this one maybe one or two more total but the clock's ticking like people want to see this big athletic american dude fight someone of note whoever that ends up being you're not going to get that necessarily this weekend but if he wins i think the the the appetite for him taking fights like this will wane and the appetite for him to be in bigger fights will be uh enough that the one or two of

those will get made as well and that with that decision went over charles martin unanimous decision snapped his unbeaten start of knockouts he's now now 15 and 0 with 14 KOs, just 23, six foot four, athletic, aggressive, powerful, fun to watch. We'll see what happens. Rodenko is 35 and six, but not a household name there. A couple other names in that undercard, Shushu Carrington's back. You always got to see him. So check that out.

Let's go to topic number three here, Luke. Mike Tyson, he's going to train Francis Ngannou. It's a real thing. And they've made certain media rounds to make this public. And they've coincided with Riyadh season and how big this fight will be in Saudi Arabia, Luke. And yeah, there are sports washing elements and we don't dodge that. There's also a lot of money over there and that's why these big fights are happening. But Mike Tyson has said a few things here. Do you want to set this up, Luke?

So Mike Tyson was on the Jim Rome radio show previewing Fury versus Nganou, and he said something that really caught my attention in like the weirdest way. He said that Tyson Fury, who, mind you, fought Deontay Wilder three times, has never faced a power puncher like Ngannou. We have the audio. Let's hear it.

From what you've seen in your work with Francis, do you think that he can handle Fury's punching power? Absolutely. You know, Tyson Fury, he got dropped by a small guy. I forgot his name. Covington? I forgot his name that dropped for him. It was early in his career. And listen, this guy punches like, man, God knows who, man.

He's fast. He moves quicker. I worked with his speed. And listen, man, he only had to land one or two. Listen, if he— Tyson's never been in the ring with a guy that could punch this hard. You don't think? No, I think this guy punched harder

than anybody ever fought. Let me ask you this, you've got a profound appreciation for the tactical and the technical elements of the sport, going back to your time of watching film of the all-time greats with Customato when you were young. Strategically, other than Francis hitting him in the face, what does he need to do to win this fight?

Oh, he just needs to go all out aggression, punch into the body, bring it to the head, as we've been working with. He's moving his head, he's getting it together, and he's really determined to do this stuff. He really wants to do this for his country and people his uh whole patriotic pride this is really interesting i'm very ecstatic about doing this like we said before shout out to the cbs sports network there luca a channel that you and i you know we've been around right where we've been banging on that but not yeah we put our flag down on that so luke here's the i'll get into the punching debate in a second and it's a big one because as you mentioned fury's been there and been knocked down four times in three

fights against dionte wilder and took some john giant punch clean punches from him i want to ask you this first though i just want to get this straight about tyson because like you know for the record here like i'm happy for francis he's getting the bag it worked out like i'm cheering for team francis to try to live his dreams and go for it i don't like again that there's no title on the line here even though this is kind of a carnival fight but like it's not like tyson mike tyson has been you know a dedicated trainer of late i just want to make sure this isn't like all about the riad season part of it and the big bag Mike can be getting like is he saying all these things and this into it as the trainer of Francis Ngannou because he can really add value and he really

believes in Ngannou can win or does this feel like money grab slash yay Riyadh season I don't know if I believe the words coming out of Mike's mouth is what I'm saying and that's obviously said with full love and respect for Francis but we are talking about an uphill battle here well also like here's the part about mike that i just can't be certain about does mike remember that he fought wilder i mean mike was like uh his name was covington i can't remember it's like steve cunningham that's his name and you know mike is you know did you go to my local dispensary you can buy mike's products mike is usually high as a fucking kite these days you know and god bless him i'm not even mad at him for it i love it but it's true yeah i legitimately wonder when he did the radio show did he realize he's fought deontay wilder three times because i mean the question is this really this is what

it comes down to right of all the power punchers that tyson has faced, clearly Deontay Wilder is number one. Deontay Wilder, I've said this before, is not just powerful for this generation. He's historically powerful. He's probably top five of all heavyweights in terms of power punching. Now, the other guys might be ahead of him because I've said this before as well,

they had a different array of punches that when they landed, they all did devastation, where it just sort of seems like it's more linear punches, the straight right that does the damage for Wilder. But dude, when he lands it, it's just, it's curtains for you. It's Armageddon. You can't do anything really about it. And so the question is like, is Francis a harder hitter than that? I mean, BC, here's where I come down on this. You tell me what I'm missing. Is it possible that Francis is a harder hitter than Wilder? Yes, it is possible, right? But here's why I'm a little bit hesitant to just declare that I know he's more than that. We have seen guys go from MMA to boxing and the power just doesn't translate the same.

Now, there could be a lot of reasons for that. They're used to fighting at different ranges. They're used to different kind of cardiovascular output. They're used, their punching mechanics typically aren't as good, right? Guys who have a refined ability to punch in general are going to punch harder than guys who don't, even if they're naturally less powerful. Mechanics mean a lot. So I want to be clear that like, you know, I'm not in any way saying that Francis is only a hard hitter in MMA gloves. He could go out there, dude, and lay one on Tyson. And we actually discover, holy shit, Mike Tyson was right. He is the hardest puncher that Tyson Fury has ever faced.

But to date, I think you do need to have a little bit of hesitation. One, in respecting who Deontay Wilder is. Whatever you want to say about his boxing mechanics, they're better than than than uh francis and ganu's and again not just powerful for this generation powerful historically and i'm not going to say it's impossible but until i've seen francis in boxing gloves yes and what he can do i think you got a side with dante wilder in this case it's not an easy transition it's why anderson silva doing it and doing it cleanly like in the chavez fight where the footwork was just there and i know silva's trained boxing and has had pro fights

before but he had the rare style it was just perfect to change don't it's the footwork also the the gopher four ounces gloves to to the full one i know they train in full boxing gloves but that changes potentially the the the, the power impact. So here's the deal. I want to put respect back on Francis's name and say, like, is he on the short list of, of the people who we deem to arguably be the most powerful one shot strikers in the history of combat sports? Yeah, he might be. So yeah, this might be true.

It might actually be true in the end that if you stood both Deontay Wilder and Francis in front of the punching machine that Yvonne Drago was working on in Rocky IV with the Russian scientists right there, could he get to a higher number that equals decapitation? It's possible. I don't know, though. Like, I think Mike's got the right idea. And I think we talked about this with Eric Nixick in the past. Francis's chance of using that power and Francis's chances in general are early in a brawl. There's

no question about that. So this is the right thing to do. I just think it's, I thought it was interesting that Mike Tyson took this job though, because like Fury is his namesake. And that was always like a big part about, you know, when Tyson Fury was born premature and had health complications and his dad was like, no, my son will be the heavyweight champion of the world one day. And I'll name him after Mike Tyson. And you dad was like, no, my son will be the heavyweight champion of the world one day. And I'll name him after Mike Tyson. And you know, that was right around when Mike Tyson was on top in the late eighties.

And not that that would be a disqualifier and Tyson doing this, but I don't know. I just question if Mike's there to promote the fight and play up when Ghanu's chances, or if isn't like, is this a real partnership? Isn't Ghanu going to develop the custom model? Like this a real partnership is in ghanu gonna develop the custom motto like bob and we've come up with the bomb strategy i mean it's gonna all play into the entertainment factor but i'm just i'm i'm surprised by this pairing and relationship i really am with i don't understand it at all as well because mike's we talked about this previously mike's

boxing style is like it would mike's boxing style actually would be good to fight Tyson Fury, but you've got to be like Mike Tyson built to do it, which Francis is not. Yeah, he doesn't have that trunk lateral movement. Yeah, and that explosive footwork, too. Like, to be able to move into position

so quickly and expertly and with all the stability, it's very, very difficult to do that. He makes it look easy. It's not easy. It's really hard. So that part's weird. I'll say this, man. Again, I want to be clear for MMA fans who are watching this,

and according to the poll we have up, 54% of our fans think Wilder hits harder. I think that's right. I'm not saying Mike is wrong. We don't know if Mike's wrong. I just think we should be very careful about diminishing one of the biggest power punchers the heavyweight division has literally ever seen.

Dude, if Francis goes in there and flatlines Tyson, I can't tell you how big that would be. Not just because of the winning side of the equation, how improbable that is, but for Tyson, to your point, Tyson Fury fury to have fought one of the biggest power punchers been knocked down four times and survived and you couldn't do it against francis dude francis would then belong in the power punchering category even in boxing of the elite of the elite right yes but there is a scenario with hit with that power that it could be a one punch flash finish okay okay but hold on hold on hold on so let me throw this back at you imagine it looks something like in boxing what francis did to

overeem where it's just this demonstrable ko where like he just i mean thrashes him with the power well then we're having a different conversation aren't we yeah oh yeah yeah we are i just you know will here's the key question because we still debate some people still debate to this day for maymac whether floyd you know i have i have confirmed from members of floyd's camp that he did not take that camp cardiovascularly as serious as a real fight his strategy was to do what he did hide behind the high guard, wear Conor down, and pick him apart late when he's fatigued, and it worked perfectly. Now, Floyd also had abs. Who knows, right?

Is that just an urban legend? Who knows? But there are people that believe, Luke, whether he did it strategically or not, that Floyd carried Conor, and it led to the, that the cardiovascular here is much different. It's something Sean Porter talked a lot about ahead of the Nate Diaz, uh, Jake Paul fight in terms of it's easier to get gassed out in boxing when you're used to the physical demand of MMA, which is different cardiovascularly. Um, do you think Tyson Fury who loves to toy with danger in the ring and be a showman?

Does he try to stay away from Francis completely to make sure that the one-punch chance that he has, which is big, it's big if it's a clocking shot, but Fury's got great defense, great head movement. He's also 6'9 and taller. He's also got an incredibly long reach, and he's also way faster as we perceive it than Francis. Will he even be close enough for

that one punch to have a chance before like round six in your opinion that's a great question because after round six I do think the chances go up but again folks don't understand how hard it is you're only throwing punches right you're not doing anything else you have to constantly move your feet if you're going to do it well and if it's a 12 round fight that's 36 minutes of fighting you know the most you'd ever do in mma is 25 it's 10 luke it's a 10 round 10 round contest okay fine still 30 minutes it's still five that would be a six round mma bout i mean that's hard as shit to do for a heavyweight i mean it's a lot of fighting so i do think it is very very different again people don't even realize that carrying your hands with the wet gloves when you're not used to it with like it's harder and harder and harder to do yeah i mean listen all this is improbable it could just

be we're buying into something we have mike's attorney say to sell the fight um you know i i don't know i feel like uh in ghanu chance is going to be high guard, crowding and walking in, working the body, and then coming over the top. A little bit of Isak Cruz style BC. Yeah. It's like, can a guy who's never boxed before pull that off? Probably not, right? Probably not.

Luke, let's transition to topic number four, and it's the fighting future of a big-name free agent and former Bellator welterweight title challenger michael venom page mvp now luke he um he said in this free agent period that he feels like he doesn't need to prove himself that his reputation holds firm and that he wants the michael chandler treatment can you explain what he means by that so basically what he had argued was maybe i'm getting part of this wrong, and if so, the audience can correct me, but the basic idea is that, like, you know,

he doesn't need to go fight a, I'll make up a name that, you know, some folks had suggested, like, Renat Fokretdinov, like, Renat Frenetikov, the guy who beat Kevin Lee, right? So some kind of Dagestani guy who's going to leg lace you and all this kind of nonsense. He doesn't really feel he needs to, he, he needs to do this. I have to prove himself. The question is, you know, what are some fun fights you can make? What are the sort of the appropriate matchmaker model fights that you could

make that would one showcase why folks are excited about him, but also be like, you know, a good enough of a, not a test of his skills per se. And like, you know, do you have enough well-rounded ability to compete in the UFC, but but rather you know are you good enough to go you know fast track to the title or something like that um so you know he believes that michael chandler didn't have to do that he didn't michael chandler didn't have to start at the bottom and then work his way up through tough guys who maybe weren't ranked blah blah blah he he got to start much more readily he got to start well was it was dan hooker his debut i believe i don't know if i got that right yeah yep and then he went you know a guy who's row

after that yeah who did hooker not a easy guy to beat that's not the point but a guy who stylistically uh is going to be an action fighter right a guy who is very experienced himself and a guy who's going to stand and kind of bang with you uh in as much as he needs to i guess obviously he took down nasra nasra hack per ass but we get the idea so what he wants is somebody similar to that give me another stylistic action fighter who the fans know and respect that would make a fun fight with a big enough name such that a winner that automatically propels him into much more interesting conversations rather than a tough Dagestani guy who no one wants to fight that doesn't mean much if you lose you know or even

if you win let's compare it to Eddie Alvarez who was in a similar territory as Michael Chandler based on age when he came in and I never expected Eddie Alvarez to make the run to the title that he did I thought he'd be in big fights and be fun but Eddie got Donald Cerrone as his first test and then after that close loss had to had to go through like not easy names to quickly work himself into the title shot and then he wins the championship so shout out to Eddie um are you asking me essentially for a Cerrone type but would that be the Michael Chandler treatment yeah you know what I think the Cerrone fight is fair I didn't think that was an unfair fight for Eddie Eddie underperformed in that fight I mean the

reality of Eddie Alvarez is folks always talk about how he got rocked and then would come back, which is true. Like he was famous for it. Right. And we all know and love Eddie for that reason. But Eddie also had times where he would just kind of underperform right against Conor McGregor. Do I think that that's the best that Eddie Alvarez could do? No, I don't, I don't, I still don't believe that. I mean, Conor got the best of him. Conor did take nothing from Conor. He just did an amazing, amazing job that night. But that's not the best Eddie Alvarez has to offer, and I think most people who are honest know that.

So the reality is he tends to, at times, underperform, but then we all know the story. He comes and storms back and does really great, either in the fight itself, in the round itself, or in his career. So I actually think that's a very appropriate fight. So a tough test that fans love. Donald Cerrone might take you down, but he didn't. He leg kicked the shit out of Eddie Alvarez.

We don't mean today Donald Cerrone. We mean the Donald Cerrone from 2015. Yeah, the one that Eddie got at that time. I think that would be very fair. They didn't do Eddie Alvarez dirty in that contest. They didn't do Mike Chandler dirty. And i think they should give something similar to mvp the question is like do you think mvp is right that he deserves it and i would argue what would be the point of signing him if you didn't like yeah the guy draws a crowd in london we know that so let's work or don't but

make it work on the terms that it's supposed to be there for. That's the thing. Cause if you're the UFC, you either believe that he could be a star and you might, might want to try to support that with the matchmaking to give him a chance to be, or you just might want somebody that you can help continue to make stars out of your risers. If you think MVP is more sizzle than,

than legit and you love getting one up over former Bellator fires, which I don't even think is part of dana's like mindset at the moment or or you know he's not fighting that battle that would dictate that i want to quickly read before i give my pick uh what mvp said to david adesanya the brother of the champion here on i believe youtube saying i want top five top 10 max i don't feel like i need to prove myself all over again I just want to go in there and we've seen it with Chandler he fought a top 10 Dan Hooker great first win that just sprung him to the contention that's the route I see myself in I don't see it any other way I don't need a warm-up fight and it's not like I've been out of the game for ages I'm ready to go now Luke I know

you want me to give something similar to what Alvaro has against Chandler. I mean, against Cowboy Cerrone back when he made the leap. But wouldn't this next name I'm about to say be the ultimate perfect feast or famine of what it could give you? The name I'm talking about is Conor McGregor at welterweight, Luke. I know you're like, that's crazy and stupid. Why would we do that? If MVP's not ready for primetime on this level he's not going to take connor down and it could be this bounce back win for connor that's massive and further pushes bellator down and ufc is the king or or you could fast track mvp off of that if he got a pay-per-view win like that um and he could suddenly become an attraction rising contender that you can

take big chances with in the matchmaking and it might just work out for you for a bit luke am i crazy here yeah you're crazy you're crazy i don't think that's an appropriate use of his time at all in either direction the ones that our fans apparently are suggesting would be ian gary which would be a good one but i don't know how you skip out on the wonder boy one two guys with a point karate background by all means at 40 years old this is what I mean. Wonderboy's still tough to beat. It's a favorable style. You don't have to worry about the guy

taking you down. And you're beating a guy with a name. I don't know where he's ranked currently, so I don't know if it fits that 5 or 10 model, but that one works well for me. We're also hearing Kevin Holland. Love that choice. Michelle Panetta, I don't really like. Gilbert Burns, I don't really like. I especially don't like

Gilbert. Gilbert is way too tough, I think. Gilbert would beat him, I think, rather handily, and I don't know if that makes a lot of sense. But the other ones, the guys that will knuckle up with him, the guys that will sort of meet him in the middle there that have names that can create excitement, and beating them means something, yeah.

Give them those. Give them those guys. How about this? Would Bilal take that if it was promised a title shot or has Bilal? Waste of time, dude. Bilal's going to take him down, dude. What the fuck is the point of that? What the fuck is the point? We've seen. I'm not saying he wouldn't do better than Logan Storlie, but it would be

something like the Logan Storlie fight all over again. It needs to be someone that MVP could look great again. So you're not going to put him in there with a wrestler. Then why don't you put him in there with an older name, especially when moving up? Do you like Poirier against him? I like that. I take that. Poirier is a fun one. Yes.

That's a good one. Poirier could go for a takedown, but you know, it wouldn't be his first choice by any stretch of the imagination. Yeah, I like that one. That's a great one. Gilbert Burns, which i think you mentioned and the fans mentioned is also i mean he's a black belt world champion like dude that's a real bad idea that is okay that is also a bad idea i don't know i kind of like the connor

one it's it's i don't have i think you can still put people over with connor i know mikey was questioning that did you see what the darren till said about connor no darren till i you know i don't we have said something like you and i have talked about this we have said similar things but not quite the same which is that he doesn't think connor ever fights again and is having a hard time letting go you know he doesn't train the same way he's living his life and like we all have said it too like i don't know about all the crimes he's alleged to have commit but like putting that to the side for just a moment just in terms of like the life he lives where he's on boats and, you know, he's showing up on red carpets and Miami Heat games.

And, you know, I know there was some issues there, but whatever. Like living a life like a rich celebrity is basically my point. Like if you live a life like that, that's not a fighter's life. It's not. You can fight like that, but you're not going to do all that well if you even fight at all. And he just thinks like he can't let go of this idea that he's still, you know,

this like decorated kind of guy and won't fight again. I still think Connor fights again, but to hear another fighter say that was kind of interesting. Well, we've been waking up to the idea and sometimes we've made references or jokes or been serious about it too. It seems like connor's like living the rock star life like living potentially the drug life and you know

he did sort of reveal ahead of the habib fight that it was all in on fitness but also all in on the other stuff and you know you're not going to get the best of yourself and certainly not against somebody like habib but that's a long time ago and he should learn these lessons but luke i'm just fresh off of watching that untold Johnny Manziel documentary on Netflix, which really focuses on rightfully so that beginning with once he got to the NFL with the Browns, now he'd always lived an aggressive party life and that's always been a part of who he was. And, you know, he wasn't the student who watched any tape and that helped lead to his bust run in one year with the Browns as an NFL quarterback.

But it really showed in him admitting it that basically beginning with when things got hard there in Cleveland, he just turned off, stopped caring and went full on into self-destruction party mode that lasted many years. Do you think Connor's really in the midst of that, that he's on a destructive dark path and maybe some of this idea of him crying about the USADA thing, but then not doing anything to change it is really his way of having an excuse not to fight. And he might be in the midst of one of these absolute free falls and why the hell are we not woken up to it? Yeah. I mean, that's absolutely on the table. I guess, you know, I'm so far removed to declare that that's what's happening is hard to say. But like, how could anyone look at what's happening and say that that hypothesis you just offered seems off? Like it could explain just about everything that we're looking at for better or for worse.

So, yeah, I mean, the Johnny Manziel thing is weird. Dude. I watched part of it too. Like the fucking guy didn't watch tape. I mean, I know in MMA, we're used to guys like, Oh, I don't watch tape. My coaches watch tape guys, a quarterback in the NFL does nothing but watch tape. Like you kids. I don't know. It's like, I don't know even how to explain how to do that job without watching tape. You have to watch hours of it daily. And he didn't watch any. It was the equivalent of what a lot of us have went through where up to a certain level in your schooling, for some people that's 12th grade, even you can dominate without putting in the work on just intellect and ability to take tests. And I can cram when I need to, I can, you know, but I'm faking it most of the way,

but I'm keeping up a high grade average. And then you get to whatever level, some college, some high school, and you get woken up abruptly at what is demanded of you. He's the equivalent of that in football. And it's like, even if he, I want it like he's small Luke and there was always going to be odds against him making it. But then again, the rules have changed so much to allow for an aggressive athletic quarterback in ways that they never would have tried to back in the day uh but yeah he completely self-destructed and once it got to the point that the work got

too hard just wanted out and you know and i understand that and i get it i mean you know i blew it but at least he's open and honest about it now and it feels like he's trying to make some positive change in his life but that's's what happened. And maybe that's what's happened to Connor. I mean, he's not, I just feel like Connor has built a life for himself that has nothing to do with the fight game. Yes. Right. So he hasn't left the fight game. You know, that's not what I'm saying, but building up this wealth, building up this portfolio of friends, building up this, I'm going to be at this event and I'm going to be involved in this business and whatever. None of that is got jack shit to do with being like, like what is, you know, I don't know.

What is, um, what is Volkanovski doing every day? Like, yeah, he's got meet and greets and stuff like that, but that dude is just hard nosed in the gym. That's just not Connor. That's just not Connor. Would you like to see Connor kind of go the De La Hoya route and like get into promotion and get at least have some dedicated job in the fight game that could use his talent? His names aren't even good anymore, right? Didn't he say about KSI like the guy couldn't box eggs even if he worked in an egg boxing facility or whatever the fuck his job was? You're right.

He's washed. His gimmick is washed. His game is washed and enough matchmaking with him on the fantasy side, Luke. Cause I don't know. He may not answer that bell. You might be right. You may not answer that bell again.

It might be where we're at here. Anyway, Luke, we could end up being dead wrong about it, but at least we have a segment dedicated every Friday in this show. We're unlike the rest of the people we're up against for podcast awards. We don't have an accountant. They don't have a combat compatibility on Budsman segment where they stand trial to find out if what they said was absolute

bullshit and they in fact if you have receipts and you have enough balls to bring it to our table maybe we really were okay get to the segment dead wrong i try to be the crypt keeper creeper and set that up it just keeps going it does yeah yeah you know i just i just yeah i just go all right number one here from edgar luke on wednesday's episode bc joke that everyone called him mcveigh in his 20s because he had a very unabomber haircut true fact if i got a haircut walked into stop and shop where i worked in college luke right away people like oh i have a timothy mc and shop where i worked in college luke right away people like oh i have a timothy mcveigh look is back way to go who are you gonna which building

are you gonna blow up that was a thing luke okay anyway this is strange because mcveigh was the oklahoma city bomber right unabomber kaczynski was big old ted kaczynski that joke really blew up in your face so is he saying that i called mVeigh the Unabomber? You can't be the Unabomber. I mean, like the Unabomber, if you saw him, he had like a beard and like long, scraggly hair. I know the difference. That was a slip in the moment. The Unabomber was big old Ted Kaczynski.

That joke really blew up in BC's face. You really bombed on that one. Good dad joke skills right there. By the way, Ted Kaczynski just died at Supermax. Not just, but relatively recently. Yeah, I think he hung himself. I think he killed himself. Well, that's interesting.

Okay, so he says, My life is so sad, so very sad. Regards, Edgar Lugo Vesquez. So thank you, Edgar, for the dad. Did you ever read his manifesto? Edgar's? No, I'm not really into him. No, no, no.

Kaczynski's? No, I have not. He was, in terms of like obviously he was an evil guy but in terms of just want to be alone well in terms of by the way uh it's not here anymore but there was a museum here in dc called the newsium they have since like demolished it but they had one section for like all the things the fbi had ever captured and they had uh they had his shack they had the f they had the unibombers like you could go and look at it like dude it was it was not money my man was living hand to mouth out did they recreate it or did they physically move it to this museum they moved it

that's the real one yeah it's the real one i guess that's a gross commitment to accuracy and detail. Like, do people go to like Dahmer's condo and like keep the rug to sell it on eBay one day? I mean, that's pretty gross. It's grim. Well, I mean, he didn't hack up people. There weren't like murders committed in the actual cabin. So it's a little bit different. But the other point is they had letters from like Saddam Hussein that he had written to George Bush and shit like that.

Like a bunch of weird stuff. It was odd. Yeah, it turns out that that mass killer was a weirdo. Who would have thought, Luke? Having lived alone in the woods on the run with a long beard. Who would have thought, right? Yeah. I do have an uncle that lives deep in the woods like that, Luke.

I think he just likes being alone, too. So shout out to Uncle Rick, you know? How's his Wi-Fi? Is it worse than your shitty Wi-Fi? It's probably a lot better, Luke. He was always ahead of the game in those areas. All right, let's keep it going. Over to Jaden.

He says, hello, long-time listener but first-time complainer. Oh, it's me again. BC must not have had time to watch the video because the one he mentioned that was posted following UFC 292 of the main event. Oh, he's talking about when I said O'Malley was the first full fight they showed after a pay-per-view on social media to promote O'Malley. He said this was not the whole fight. In fact, UFC only posted the second round and the post-fight remarks from the sugar show please do stay quirky bc also luke have you heard of the vape alternative fume or fum alternative fum fume i haven't vaped in a while good good to hear you dirt hole uh luke jayden was right and i was wrong apparently they posted just the second round but still that was a big a big move for the UFC committing to promoting the star of O'Malley. True or false? Yeah.

Funny that they took that from Showtime Boxing, who Dana was saying the Showtime Boxing production is not that great. I don't know. It looks like it was pretty good to me. Yeah. This Dana versus Showtime war is kind of comical, Luke. But, you know, I'll take arms in this side. Luke, all right. You know, I'll do it.

All right. Let's keep it going here from John. Dear John, he says, hey, Donks. On Friday's mailbag, Luke said that the Burger King in D.C. was the last burger to have 80s nostalgia decorated inside. That was false. My mom lives in Glen Cove, Long Island, and her Burger King is still decorated the same and infested with roaches.

Well, I tell you what, when the news said it was shutting down, which it did shut down, they said it was the last one in the country. So that's why I repeated it. But the fake news media got me again, I guess. Look, when I used to be addicted to debauchery and fast food and Wendy's was our like unique gourmet fast food. We didn't have it in my hometown. Still don't, but we'd go anywhere for it. I remember like adding up my debauchery over the years. I've like thrown up in Wendy's and then eat,

finish my meal. I've cracked my pants and when he's like, I've done everything possibly gross in there to echo off of the mystery of big John's asploits in Tokyo. Have you done damage in Big Chicken in that same regard in your area, wherever that is? You're going to laugh at this.

I actually never ate at the Big Chicken. Not once. What? It's a landmark. What town is it in? Marietta. Marietta, Georgia. Yeah.

So would you say, if somebody said, where'd you live in Georgia? Was it always Marietta? No. So I lived in three different towns. I lived in Nashville, Georgia for a time. Then I lived in valdosta georgia which was the big football capital and then i moved north to marietta which is just outside atlanta okay so they're all atlanta

suburbs yes no no no only marietta the other two valdosta is like the last city before you hit florida it's like it's in it's in lowndes county lowndes county is literally on the georgia florida it's like it's in it's in lounds county lounds county is literally on the georgia florida border you were some you were the redneck riviera you were some panhandle shit you were a dub oh yeah dude i mean i just want to say when like you're like oh the south has charm like go fuck yourself just just eat all the shit you don't know what you're talking about nope nope enjoy yourselves at proud boys pavilion luke for that great concert you're about to see all right there you go uh let's uh that's the three dead wrong oh no we got one for you we got one we got one special one that they sent in it's a dead wrong for bc and they want me to read it

bc you know because i'm a normal human i've never eaten at arby's and um know, that's one thing about you that makes you just an absolutely disgusting piece of white trash shit. I also did whippets in the Arby's parking lot. So, I mean, that just adds on to it, Luke. So, here we have a dead wrong for you from a man who goes by the name of Devin. Or it could be Devon. I'm going to say Devin. I don't really know. But let me read it as follows.

This is a dead wrong for Brian. The this past week, I don't know how old this is. So, but you recently went over like I'll get to it this past week. I was enjoying the mailbag episode. You guys put together. I think we,

as fans really appreciate the fact that you pre-record things for us when you're gone. However, there was one part of the episode that rubbed me the wrong way. Luke asked Brian for the best when, excuse me, the best Arby's order to which he obliged to beef and cheddars, curly fries, and a Jamocha shake was the order. Is that correct? Yeah, that's it. That's the, that's the winner. That's sex.

Okay. Devin says, this is the equivalent of the missionary position for a washed dude with a love of gas station food. You've got this one completely wrong. And here's his credentials. My tenure at Arby's lasted from ninth grade to 12th grade. And I've enclosed a picture from about 15 years ago to prove my experience. Do we have that Mikey? Uh,

no pick LOL. Okay. Arby's has so many better options on the menu and in my opinion brian's credibility is shot soon he's only going to be relegated to buy one get one cameos because nobody can trust the hoser so maybe he's a canadian arby's fan i don't know all right the correct arby's order is as follows chicken bacon ranch sandwich no lettuce loaded baked potato extra shredded cheese jamocha shake and he writes admittedly this is a banger and brian is uh for this is right and then he adds apple or blueberry turnover both are fantastic p.s brian says quebec like a man

who's never been there it's quebec not i don't know Quebec? I don't know how he says it. Luke, no disrespect to you or any of the thousands of fans listening, but I got a message for one man, Brian Campbell. Get your shit together. I'm waiting for your Arby's order. Well, first of all, if you're Canadian talking about Arby's, do they even have them up there, Luke? All I saw was Tim Hortons up in my motherland of

Quebecois up there, Luke, the people that I love and felt one with, not like this clown. but i will say this to that first of all you're substituting the order with with chicken at a place that's known for the sloppy gross beef and cheddar that looks like you know leaked soccer goalie nudes luke like just ridiculous right um but i'll also say this luke i'll also say this, Luke, I'll also say this. I did not. So I, I was Arby's was a, was a victory fast food meal for me. It was a like attraction. It was a once a year, twice a year thing. I never had Arby's in my town.

There was one at the gross Waterbury mall in Connecticut that I, that I did hit at times, but I wasn't like, that wasn't part of my routine. So yeah, missionary position, but that was like the order at the place that had this nostalgic feel. Cause I never had it in Connecticut for a while. And then my uncle used to bring to it to hang out and that was our stop. And it was, it Arby's was like royalty of fast food for me. And then, you know, I did a lot of whippets in the parking lot while chowing down beef and jitters and, you know, those memories are just so nostalgic and great so uh yeah i guess i'll take

that i never explored the menu because i always felt like well i gotta ask you what is rbq well beef and cheddar you got to go after what they do great you know what i'm saying i have to say asking to go to a fast food place that's not chick-fil-a and order chicken is always dubious to me you know indeed indeed okay but comment. Okay. But comment, chicken, bacon, ranch sandwich. How was it? No lettuce. I've never had it because I'm trying to tell you, I wasn't a regular Arby's guy. I was like an attraction, occasion Arby's guy.

And why am I going to order chicken at fricking Arby's where it's like, I'm with you on that one a little bit. I'm with you. This guy worked at Arby's, but still. All right. The loaded baked potato, extra shredded cheese. I got to tell you, I'm not going to fucking fast food to get a baked potato. Eat shit.

If you go to Wendy's and you get the chili, you're 65 years old. I'm sorry. I'm not going to the salad bar, all right? I'm not doing it. I'm at Wendy's for the beef for the classic single. Did you have the apple or blueberry turnover? I have never had that from Arby's. Wow.

Okay, so you've never had this guy's order well it's yeah i've never i i'll admit i have not gone deep down the menu but i did have it two or three times a year and each time felt special and i kept it that way luke okay believe it very good all right shout out to the beef and cheddar it's a it's a lifestyle hey luke let's close with this you are fresh off the bird from a i'm gonna assume a beautiful family vacation in colombia not colombia uh just so the people know and and shout out to the survivors of that earthquake that you texted me about luke uh not what the hell's going on it ended up being not that big a deal but they had two earthquakes while i was there well luke shout out to everyone fighting the good fight in hawaii i mean there's

just been craziness with the weather lately. And then my wife tried to get me to watch that movie on Netflix about that tsunami from 20 years ago. You know, I'm talking about that. I saw it. I saw that was I was unsettling at best. See, the only thing I really fear in life, Luke, outside of chicks with neck tattoos who smoke cigarettes is is natural disasters like like aggressive thunderstorms, hurricanes, tornadoes. I feel like any other situation in life when we don't have control, I've got peace. But we have no control in those circumstances, Luke. Mother Nature will kick your asshole.

All right, so how about a Gringo's Guide to Columbia? Luke, yeah, there you go. Here we go and by the way you know the people in english it's pronounced the same either way it's columbia columbia but in spanish c-o-l-o columbia c-o-l-u columbia so that's why that's where you would get the differences okay i got five things for everyone i've now i realized this i talked about it with my wife i've now been going to columbia for 10 years 10 years i've been vacationing there basically every single year i can't even remember how many times

I've been now. I've been a bunch of times. I've got a list of five. I'm going to make it six here on the, I'm going to call a bit of an audible on things. Real simple ways to have a good time, enjoy yourself, stay out of trouble, appreciate the culture, all the things you're supposed to do whenever you travel internationally, right? kind of could i survive a trip a vacation without you with like my family if i were telling you i'm flying to columbia for vacation would you allow me to do that would you have fears for my livelihood i think if you took my advice here you'd be just fine how about that i'm ready how about that all right number one motherfuckers don't drive don Don't fucking drive.

I cannot tell you how many people have told me they're going to rent a car when they go to Columbia. Dude, shut the fuck up. That's the worst idea you could ever have. Colombian. I have been in Egyptian traffic, right? I have sat through that. I have been in traffic in Istanbul, right? I've been in traffic in various parts of Europe, all over the United States. I have been in traffic in Istanbul, right? I've been in traffic in various parts of Europe, all over the United States. I have never in my life seen driving and traffic like you get in Columbia. And more importantly, not even the traffic, just the driving. Dude, there's painted lanes where you're supposed to stay in, none of that shit means anything. They are in and out. They'll go the wrong way down the road. They'll move into the opposite side of the road just to

get around. There's people on bicycles. You drive far enough outside the city, you got to drive around people on donkeys. That's a real thing that has happened to me. I'm not doing a bit on this whatsoever. The infrastructure can be better or worse depending on where you go. Do you remember the first time BC you ever went and sat in a New York city cab and you couldn't believe how much you were risking your life by all the fucking turns? My future health and hygiene. Yeah. A few times, Luke. Yeah. Dude, it's that on steroids. They will borderline hit each other. The rules don't mean anything. Red lights don't mean anything.

Green lights don't mean anything. Stop signs don't mean anything. Nothing means anything other than getting from point A to point B. Let an experienced driver do this for you. By the way, it's easy to hire drivers. If you want to go from not just cabs or whatever, but if you want to go from like city to city, like a nearby thing, or even the suburb,

it's super cheap to hire someone who will just be your driver for the day. It'll cost you like, how much did we pay that guy? We paid him 70,000 pesos. What was that? That's basically, I paid him less than 20 bucks for a full day of driving, full day of driving.

And this motherfucker is going, I mean, he's going around donkey. He's trying to upsell whores, Luke to you at all. No, no, no, no. You can get it. driving full day of driving and this motherfucker is going i mean he's going around donkeys try to upsell whores luke to you at all no no no you can get like the vegas cab drivers do yeah you some some guys like that exist but there are real dudes who do the real job the right way i'm just warning you dumb asses i cannot tell you how many americans like i'm gonna rent a car and go see the countryside this ain't tuscany don't do that so we had a family vacation book three years ago that we

ended up having to cancel uh because of changes in our schedule and it was to go to Costa Rica and stay in the mountains and the plan was to fly there drive two hours to the coastal city and then climb these massive mountains in a four-wheel drive and I remember thinking like that this is going to be the end of me but wouldn't have been fine look I don't know Costa Rica I can't say I'm sure all parts of Latin America are not the same in that way uh because for example like cartagena does not have the same kind of traffic that other places do but uh don't fucking drive is the answer don't drive don't drive hey we're gonna drive don't do that don't recommend that at all that's a real bad idea that's number one number two cash. Now that sounds counterintuitive. You're like,

oh, I might get scammed. No, dude, you'll get scammed not carrying cash. It works the other way around. So when you get in a cab, for example, BC, do you think they have meters? They don't have meters. And when you go to pay 20,000 pesos, they can't break your change. If you have a car, they can't take it. And B, if you a car they can't take it and b if you only have a 20 or let's say only have a 50 they can't break it they can't break it at all so then they drive you around to a place who can break it and now it costs even more it's still pretty cheap by the way because a dollar strong as fuck but the point being is here's my recommendation if you are going to travel to a place like this take out 300 000 pesos from the atm it's about 84 dollars

this will carry you so fucking far i cannot overstate it and also there's a bit of like a sad part to this story as well there are these guys who you know who will sell like you know the toys that light up when you turn them for like little kids or whatever yeah this guy sold me one it was it was uh 40 000 pesos and all i had was a 50 all he had to give me back was 10. he had no change he had no money to break so like the point i'm trying to make here is a lot of these people are living hand to mouth and like don't have the actual ability to give you change also the dudes and the dudes at stop lights who come and like pour on your windshield and then and then wash it.

You can't just tell those guys to fuck off. Cause they won't like, they're not going to listen to you. So you got to have like a couple thousand to like chuck them, you know, to keep everything. You got to keep the system working. Did you ever try the opposite though? Did you ever try to tell them to F off?

And like, you know, I will third world. So I asked my wife why we don't. And basically the cab driver was like, not a good idea. That's exactly what he said. He's like,

not a good idea. Don't do that. So like if native people are like, we don't do that, I'm going to listen to them. Now, of course the flip side is if you go to a nice restaurant, if you go to a nice place,

of course, all of them take cards, all hotels, all travel agencies, you know, all those places all take cards. Like you don't have to worry about it, but I cannot overstate this do not rely on that you will end up in trouble or just getting scammed out of your shit like it's gonna happen now from the from the skits and bits

files of uh nothing a double leg couldn't figure out if shit turned the wrong way for you there as a gringo traveler would you rely on your background in jesuits to nullify the situation no it ain't worth it you can have it okay i'm not dying because some poor kid hasn't eaten in a day okay but if you're in it let's say you're in it because sometimes you're just in it luke okay you're in it well yeah i mean if you're being attacked then yes you should defend yourself but like if someone pulled a gun would you mckenziteen some guy just to just to prove that that time was well spent only if i absolutely had to only if i absolutely had to yeah and it sounds like i'm telling you that columbia

something like super dangerous hellhole that's not what i mean i just mean you gotta learn how to travel smartly you gotta learn how to travel safe i've literally in 10 years of going to columbia i've never one time had an issue but I also don't do dumb shit when I go, I keep it straight and orderly, right? So there you go. Number three, this is the good part and the bad part. Here's a story for you, BC music is everywhere. Now, 99% of this is a wonderful thing. If you get in your car, by the way, no one plays like reggaeton there like it it's in public you just don't ever hear you hear it in the clubs or whatever or in bars but in the cab they're playing something called like vaginato which is like how do i explain that it's like uh

style r&b or something it's it's like love songs for like country people or whatever in any in any case it's everywhere in every town square everywhere you go every restaurant every bar everything and music is everywhere it's a huge part of the culture and you should lean into that and enjoy it because it's such a wonderful part of going there it's new music you never heard live performances everywhere it's fantastic but bc there's a limit to that shit dog at pools and at beaches it will drive you fucking insane what they pull someone will show up to the pool with a big ass bluetooth and without any permission by the way there'll be signs that say like don't use your bluetooth they'll just do it anyway and they'll play music loud as fuck that you never asked for and everyone just seems to tolerate it

and i'll make a point people are like oh if you're going to another country you have to tolerate their ways well up to a point up to a point here's a perfect example my wife and i took tuki to the beach there was this dude going up and down the beach on his bike but there's always people trying to hustle you on the beach there, right? It's just always a thing. So you have to learn how to say no. All the time.

You're the worst chamber of commerce member in Columbia history right now. No, listen to me. There was a dude rolling around on his bike, had a Bluetooth speaker. I'm not kidding like this big. And he would rent it out to people who ever wanted it. The couple in the beach tent next to us.

And they're all right next to each other, turned it on, rented it from the guy. It's like 20,000 pesos for an hour, like nothing, like five bucks. And played, I mean, mariachi music that you could have heard from space, dog. That's how fucking loud it was. Even my wife, who's Colombian as shit, looked at me and was like, let's go. Even my wife did that. So warning to everybody, however you want to handle it, you can handle it. You can ask them to turn it down.

They're going to say de malas, like too bad. It's not going to work. The music is everywhere. And almost every time, it's not only great, it's charming, and it's fucking awesome. But there are going to be some limits to that as well. You should be forewarned about it. I'm a no-limit soldier, just so you know no limit soldiers i mean by the way this lady next to me at the pool had one phone

that was playing a religious service like oh dios te bendiga like this whole shit you know and then on another phone she was doing facetime calls yelling over the service on the other phone and then she laid down and obviously the facetime call finished she just let on speaker the religious service play while she laid down eventually fell asleep and turned it off but this is what i'm talking about you have to be ready for shit like that it's like it's it's in your face so far this this segment has been more offensive to latin people than than the gringo poppy no no no i can't like for example here's the best side of it right you go to the town square we saw this old gentleman playing guitar he was playing uh

buena vista social club which is like cuban music dude it was amazing it was amazing to see and like the street performances in cartagena where we had like they'll marry it with dancers so they'll have big bands out of nowhere dude i cannot overstate how awesome that part is, but there's always two sides to it, right? In any system, people are going to go too far, right? They're going to go too far. So just a heads up on that. And by the way, this is just for Americans to stay out of trouble, not to get into it. Okay. Four, here's the good news. Eat all the things. Can't, can't tell you enough how good the food is, including street food. It is the best. I put up, I sent Mikey, I don't know if he has it.

I sent him a picture. Look at this meal that I had. On the left, you have a shrimp and lobster stew that had been cooking for like 45 minutes with a top layer of cheese that they baked. There's the only kind of soup you can get in our stew in Cartagena. It's called a cazuela. On the right, you have coconut rice and you have fried plantains. Up top is a kind of like a sour cream they call suero.

On the right, there is this cocktail sauce they call aji. It's a special kind of aji. It's a Caribbean aji. And then a bunch of limes. Okay, BC, I'm not exaggerating. It's a top five meal I have ever had in my life. In my life. The seafood, if you you're on you got to eat regionally if you're in the mountains eat what they eat in the mountains if you're on the sea eat what they eat in the sea wherever you are eat relative to that region the food in columbia

is a 10 out of 10 that meal one of the very best meals i've ever had in my life don't be the gringo that goes to fucking burger king mikey don't be the guy who goes to all the american joints and just gets the shit that they're used to if you're gonna go to this place you gotta lean in the food will do you right he's not gonna take that quietly like he's not going to continue to take that slight quietly all right all right yeah yeah let me add let me add a uh a number five here we don't have it we have a different number five but let me add a five here here's another do if you especially if you're a guy but even if you're a girl as well do get a haircut do not be afraid at all of getting a haircut or trimming or getting your hair done.

First of all, it's dirt cheap. You can get your beard trimmed and a haircut for like 20,000 pesos, like five bucks, like nothing. And it is expert level good. You've never gone to one of these places and seen anyone that works there with a bad haircut. And by the way, you can just walk on in, show them a picture. You don't need any English. Dude, so many places you travel to, you're like, I don't know if I trust this person.

Trust these people. They know what they're doing when it comes to getting a great haircut. It's cheap. It's easy to get. They're everywhere. They're in every mall. They're in every place you could ever go to.

Get a haircut. The best thing you could possibly do. And also one addendum to that, BC, I don't know how you'll feel about this. Shopping malls in Columbia are still like a thing. Like it's still a place where people go to. It's still where all the best things you can buy are. It's still like, they're still happening there in ways

where I think in America they've somewhat declined. No, over there, like if someone's like, oh, let's go to the mall to eat. That's a good idea. The food court there will be very, very, very, very good. Some kind of thing. All right, last but not least, and this is just for my gringo folks, please don't wear cargo pants.

I mean, you're just asking. You're just asking for problems. I mean, nothing is more gringo than showing up and wearing cargo pants. The Europeans do this too, by the way. They show up in a backpack. Dude, I'm not saying you're going to get anything super bad happen to you, but people are going to know you're not from around there,

and that's going to make things a little bit harder to negotiate with price and blah, blah, blah. BC, do not wear cargo pants whenever you visit the great state or the great country, I should say. I'll bring a different color pair for every day.ke i was surprised you didn't have number six do not knock it in your own goal in the world cup or did i break off i mean what are we doing here we're just talking about national trauma okay but in all seriousness i'm telling you if you don't drive hire someone to do it if you got enough cash on you about thirty three hundred thousand pesos for the week

enjoy the music wherever it is but know there might be some limits for you as an american that Hire someone to do it. If you got enough cash on you, about 3,300,000 pesos for the week. Enjoy the music wherever it is, but know there might be some limits for you as an American that you're not used to. Eat all the good food. Get a haircut. And don't wear cargo pants like a fuckhead. You're going to have the time of your life. I've been going for 10 years. The people of Colombia are some of the nicest people in the world.

It's one of the best places to see. It's quicker to get here from the East Coast than it is to get to California. Go see it. Just do it smartly. Those are your tips see it's quicker to get here from the east coast than it is to get to california go see it just do it smartly those are your tips like eat everything every salad i mean just you know bbl heaven luke uh with 65 people they say they'd rather travel with bc yeah you're gonna go to lame-ass places and do lame-ass shit but they're gonna have the best possible time luke they won't be lectured the whole time all right that's true i will do a lot of educated sophisticated man so thank you for the gringo's guide to columbia and uh i will have a similar one about quebec no just kidding but i did love me some quebec luke but the food there will kill you it will slowly kill you this is why heart disease is in my family i blame the quebec. That's the show for you.

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after they went to Showtime.com and sampled everything, right? Eat everything. Eat that ass, Luke, okay, on Showtime.com right there. What should they do if they don't like it after 30 days? They can go pound sand, but either way, they should also vote for the World MMA Awards. World MMA Awards, that's plural,. best mma programming for watching on youtube go hit the uh qr code or if you're listening on the podcast platforms world mma awards dot com

oh luke i didn't want you to know and tell you to your face that i cheated on you yesterday and recorded with jed meshu because he's got this show uh damn they were hot and he's like you want to come on the you wanna episode and we'll look back at her career and i'm like my partner would never let me do that so luke i was there and i was loving it okay did you guys bang we kind of did mike heck was the referee it was great yeah we got you know it's like rule number one in an orgy no eye contact right that's always you know that's always it what happens so i saw some comedian on tiktok asked this he's like what happens if you finish first in an orgy you just gotta got to stand around and watch, you know? Yeah.

You know, that's getting pretty gross. Yeah. Yeah. I saw, did you see that Theo Vaughn clip on Instagram where he interviewed that guy who said that if you died in your house and the authorities didn't find you, that cat, your cats would eat you within 24 hours and the dogs would wait a few weeks because they love you more. I don't know how true that is.

He said that the cats will eat your brain within 24 hours. And I can't stop that image in my mind. I don't know how true that is. He said that the cats will eat your brain within 24 hours. And I can't stop that image in my mind. I can't stop right now. I might be, I'm a little defensive when I see Zoe, cause I know I'm going to get clawed and bit because she's an aggressive, like basic instinct level lover Luke. And I can't train it out of her cause I don't really speak cat, but, uh, yeah, that's what's's happening i hope your cat slashes your face that's what's going on luke nothing's right um uh i'm torn yeah um that was luke thomas this is your boy bc mikey more miles our great cbs producer i'm the ones and twos um i don't know live show this weekend but we'll be back with a bang come monday right luke yeah i mean i'm gonna try and do a post-fight

show tomorrow but i don't think it's going to work. You should. No, no, no. I don't want to get the fans' hopes up. I'm going to try, but it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough. I will say, Luke, I mean, this Tyler Santos-Aaron Blanchfield fight, I can't freaking wait.

That's the biggest fight of the weekend. I can't wait. Yeah, I would agree. That's the one I care the most about, too. I would agree. Yeah. For sure. The future is going to be at stake right in front of us. We're going to see it.

125 is wild. Next week, Rose versus Manon. Look, this can be great, right? That's next week? Yeah. Shit's happening. It's happening. Or is it the week after?

Mike, am I wrong? I think that's next week, bro. Isn't. Wait, so. And I think the week after that is a pay-per-view with his pay-per-view although that pay-per-view is a little that's my new error yeah that's that's uh that's that's she she i uh yeah there you go luke okay that's it um thank you everybody for watching the show i mean it's just so much fun to be your host your co-host here um luke with the jazz hands

that was interesting but uh you, tip your waitresses, take care of your brain, take it seriously. Next week for Rose. Wow. Wow. Things are happening quick. Gone Rose.

A lot of France happening next week. That's Luke Thomas. I'm your boy, BC. We love you. And we are out of here. You know, hose loyalty,

all that great stuff. Thank you. Jay Paquette. Happy anniversary. All right. That's it. That's it, Mike.