MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Vancouver: Brendan Allen Stops RDR | Ref Outrage | Fiorot KO, Chito Robbed? | UFC 321 Storylines

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Brian Campbell and Luke Thomas are back on a Morning Kombat Monday, going through all the latest in the world of combat sports. Brendan Allen spoiled RDR's middleweight title hopes with 4th-round TKO at UFC Vancouver — BC and LT break it down. Also, more referee controversy coming out of UFC Vancouver and the fans call for an overhaul. Plus more from Vancouver and the biggest storylines to follow for the upcoming UFC 321 event. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off sitewide + free shipping with promo code KOMBAT at https://shopmando.com! #mandopodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's time to bang. Oh, yeah, get fired up. It's Monday morning. It's time to talk cage fighting. This is morning combat, October 20th of the 25s. I'm screaming in my own basement, and they call me Brian Campbell. Welcome. Hey, how are you?

Great to see you. You may have come here for my co-host. He's from Washington, D.C. by way of the old deli, not the new one. It's Luke Thomas. Yeah. What's up, dude? You're in a good mood for a guy who, uh, I'm surprised your, oh, no, I'm not surprised your home.

When did you get home? I got home yesterday. Okay. I mean, I'm, did I try to take the last train out of Brooklyn late Saturday and just, you know, missed my mark maybe, but I'm back. Danny Garcia's retired. There was a K.O. that fight happened.

But plenty of good seats still available. If a KO falls in the forest and no one's around to see it, did it actually happen? That's the question. It did happen. We're going to get fired up today because we are going to recap UFC Vancouver from the weekend and hopefully get Randy Cooter's take on Dan Marigliata's job future after a rough weekend for the referees. Also, we will set the stage for this Saturday's UFC 321 pay-per-view with some storylines and a reminder two days from now. Wednesday, October 22nd of this week here, live and direct from the Metal Arc Studios.

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what up boys I think winning an award is a lot like being a Marine you're never you know an ex award winner you're just a former award winner so you know we'll still take that take that home uh very former in this case you know what I'm saying you guys have a good weekend BC I know you were in the empty uh Barclays center there but uh you enjoy the Plenty to some. No, no. Shout out to Danny Garcia. Hey, hey, we'll see it and have you seen the ship. But I got to work with some great people like Long Island's Chris Algerry. Hell yeah, Huntington. Shout out. Yeah, indeed. Luke, I believe this weekend was the 250th birthday of the U.S. Marine Corps, which included a... No, 10 November. 10 November. They might have done... They did some, yes, various places will do some ceremony for that, which you saw in California. But the official birthday of the Marine Corps is 10 November. 7th. All right. We got some Hegg Seth action, some Vance. I was like, This is Luke's cup of tea right here. Let's go go, you know, Semperfy, never die, baby, all right? 10 November.

Luke, outside of the cage fighting mishaps, did you have a nice weekend in the nation's capital? It was beautiful. I had to get my bike repaired a little bit, so I had to, it's far away from where I live. So I picked it up and went biking all over town on a beautiful Saturday. Oh, it was so nice. It was wonderful. Took the totoaster with me, put a basket on the front of my bike. Nobody cares about this stuff, nor should you, but that's what I did.

Very manly of you, very masculine. but look like the lake Kobe Bryant hashtag girl tad hashtag girl dad it's a lifestyle okay who am I trying to impress you trying to impress you a father to your child that's what I'm saying right that's right yeah good good stuff that's it that's all I did tukes good she's good yo I had to go to kids parties I went to anybody knows the area I had to go to glen echo this weekend which is uh not close anyway but it was cool I had a good time saw some friends chill kept a chill does glen echo know Glenn Bernie uh Glenn Gary Glenn Ross. How about that? That's where we're at. Yeah, I don't know where we're going with this, but we went there. All right. Hey, you came here to listen to us to talk about fights. So you want to do it? I think the time is right now. Topic. Number one, surprise, surprise. UFC Vancouver. It may have been Renair de Ritter's tryout for a middleweight title, or at least that's what we thought coming in. But shout out to late replacement Brendan Allen to fight, despite the fact that RDR had won four fights in his first eight months as a UFC fighter.

RDR's bid for that middleweight title ended in absolute disaster as Alan swept rounds two through four on all three scorecards while completely gassing de Ritter out leading to his corner throwing in the towel before the start of round five after some back and forth exchange in a language that the UFC did not have a translator so we're not officially sure what was being said right there but as for Alan himself he said before the fight that RDR ain't that guy just not that guy at all turned out in this case he was right so luke when you look back at this

weird kind of awkward main event what's the biggest explanation not just for the the resurgence hair of brendan allen with a two-fight win streak but really the complete breakdown of the dutch night i don't quite know how to explain this performance um on the one hand let's credit allan you see whatever else you want to say about where he's at the value of the win, exactly how it came to him. It seemed to me that at a bare minimum, what you can credit Alan with is fighting a very patient and disciplined approach. I think at times he's been a little bit overzealous offensively, gotten himself into a bit of trouble. That's, for example, how he got kind of knocked out by Chris Curtis. Right. So here he was getting overwhelmed in

round one and nevertheless was able to at least slow the fight down, neutralize it, And then by the sort of second half-ish of round two, that's when you really begin to see the tide turning. And he doesn't make any mistakes along the way. He just kind of, you know, consistently chips at it. And I don't think that's a small thing. Staying calm under duress and kind of knowing your moment's going to be there. These are important skills to have and to learn. And they clearly served him well here. But at the same time, BC, I just, you know, it's very difficult when you do one of these shows where you're asked to give an opinion and it sounds like you want to undermine the winner, but I really don't. At the same time, it is just weird to me that we saw

De Ritter go five rounds with Robert Whitaker, a former champion in this weight class, and it was a difficult bout, and it did kind of slowly peter out as the fight went on. But in this particular case, B.C, RDR doesn't take a tremendous amount of damage early anyway and just seemed to fall off a cliff in ways that the hastiness of his fall off didn't seem to match, excuse me, didn't seem to match the pace of the fall off that you saw in the Whitaker fight, which was also, you know, very difficult, although, you know, contested under somewhat different terms. So I guess what I'm saying is I'm happy to note the progress. And frankly, the fact that he had three and a half weeks to get even what he got out of

Brendan Allen speaks very highly of him and his team. Yeah, shout to Balal. Shows to Bilal. Who, by the way, gave fantastic. corner advice right on time exactly as he needed to just to wrap up i guess i'm just saying didn't something seem off to you about rdr not just from a general observation standpoint but based on just recent history that we'd seen from him i agree with you on that and i know that some people got sent held and i almost did too with that rdr tweet that said norovirus broken

right hand which seems to be the poet on description of the first ankylaia fight that same Twitter account, by the way, dropping the N word a lot. I don't believe that's him. I think RDR has that verified IG account, which he has not, at least to my knowledge, spoken from yet. But this was an epic collapse for a guy that was on his way. And I guess it's as simple to say, well, you can't grapple at full speed for two rounds. I mean, even, you know, even Habib found that out against Al-I. Quinto in the final rounds of his title win there all the way back in Brooklyn. For some reason, RDR just didn't realize that. And he got himself into the red on the gas tank. And then as you saw, I mean, this fight was stopped after round four, but after round three,

Derritter could barely get up. So that's 15 minutes into a fight in which he was the one that initiated all of these ground sequences. And while you certainly have to shout out Brendan Allen, especially when you hear the post-fight breakdown from him about how much he turned his team around and his mindset, his motivation, and how much that led into this fight, I give him a lot of credit. But let's be really honest, we thought coming in if someone was going to be first team all dunk dunk a live style unfortunately we thought it would be brendan allen who's had a history at times of questionable in cage IQ moments but it was r d r who just looked like

i mean this is just a complete mismanagement of one's own gas tank yes brandon allen made those reverses on the ground yes he put himself in top position but rdr had full mount early in round one here and just seemed to waste everything he had so i don't know if he was physically compromised coming in. I mean, look, if you're going to accept a fifth fight in your first 11 months on the job, like at age 34, 35, I guess, you know, you could see a breakdown of any kind coming, whether that's illness, injury, what have you. But a real tough break for somebody who after that Robert Whitaker fight, you could have argued, could have cut the line for a title shot, had full momentum, was doing things we didn't think he could do. But yet this is why

on Friday's preview show, I wanted this slow roll and say, I love this RDR run more than anyone, I'm just not sure if some of what we were seeing was not smoke and mirrors as much as just full on momentum, right place, right performance, right time. Boy, was this a disaster. We do have a quote tweet here from RDR's coach Harun Ozkin, who explains throwing in the towel here aggregated by M.A. Junkie, they say, he said, I made the call to stop the fight after round four. I take full responsibility for that decision. It was the right call to make for me in the moment. If I didn't do anything, RDR would have continued the fight rather than, risk unnecessary damage. I decided to call it a day. Go home as healthy as possible.

You live to fight another day. I absolutely do not care about pleasing others if it comes at the cost of someone's health. Zero excuses for this loss. And quote, while I certainly like the accountability of the coach, the fact that people believe that RDR asked out of this fight, and whether he did or the corner saved him ultimately to me, it's the same thing, right? Here is the response from his contemporaries in the division on social media, Hamzad saying, can you read that? Look, that's pretty small. This bullshit guy give up. Naserdini Mavov says, knew it. Dylan Danis, imagine being a quitter, never me. I mean, okay, all right.

Okay. Marvin Vittori says Derr is a pussy. Kyle Bajalio. Did RDR get injured in the fight or he just gave up? Real question, guys. Paul O'Costa finally says, if I knew it would only last four rounds, I would go for it, LOL. Even Brendan Allen jumped in with a, with a comment here at the Post-Fi press conference saying 25 minutes is a very, very long time to take punishment. I don't think he, I didn't think he'd be able to do it if he took a round longer than I thought to break. So Luke, let's let's get real here on RDR. Like, how damaging is this outcome, this, this exit and a

fight that mattered so much when you're literally on the verge of busting through? I mean, It's not like they went toe to toe on the feet. This was almost exclusively a grappling match. He did take heavy damage with elbows, but he ended up in those spots a lot of times because of his own doing. Yeah, I mean, I think the look here is quite bad. There were people saying he quit. And again, there's this moment where he's speaking,

I believe Dutch between he and his coach. And I don't know what was said. But the coach later on took responsibility and said, I was the one that threw the towel. And I did believe that even actually in the ring itself with the cage, excuse me, that they had surrendered, so it wasn't necessarily RDR. But the point is, I mean, that definitely is a distinction that matters, but not to the total picture. Because here's the thing, BC. I saw George St. Pierre tap to strikes live when Matt Serra put it on him. And that was not a

great look at that time. You can well imagine people were a little bit surprised at that. But at the same time, he never really did it again. It was a thing that he did to preserve himself. And it made sense, sense. Like when he fought Matt Serra again, look what he was able to do. Now, you might note, well, this is not the first time it's necessarily happened for Derritter. It happened against Anatoly Malikin, who if you didn't watch that fight, first of all, who's the guy's a heavyweight, but if you didn't watch that fight before he eventually quit, Malikin was abusing him in really bad ways. Frankly, in fact, in ways I thought much worse than what Allen was doing. But ultimately, here's the problem, B.C. And this is where I think he really is in a tough spot. He

might get another good fight. He is entertaining. I do think he'll be back relatively quickly. He'll get a decent name and an important fight, I suspect. However, it was a title eliminator and you're 35 years old. And I'm, for health and safety's sake, I am glad he didn't see a fifth round, but for appearances sake and what it means that you would surrender in what MMA's terms would be so willingly an about of this consequence, I cannot imagine UFC Brass would view that especially favorably, right? Because they might even say, we don't even mind that you try to preserve yourself. What we look at that and say to ourselves is the fact that you have to preserve yourself because you have allowed this to get to such a bad place, whether because you

were burnt out, whether because you didn't train properly, whether because you got beat up by Brendan Allen, whatever the case may be, you got pushed to the brink so much that you ended up having to make this decision ultimately. And that's just not somebody that we can rely upon. That's not somebody that we can look to and build a plan around. You are not reliable as a way, I think some could say anyway, as a way to be the kind of this marker for achievement and something that can be a brand that they can, they can promote. So the optics of it are quite severe, even if I think the ultimate reality of it is, to me, at least in part

understandable. Yeah, we're going to get to Brendan Allen in a second as we should because it's a big, a huge breakthrough win for him. It might have completely turned his future and situation around, but Luke, hindsight is a thing, right? But in hindsight here,

RDR took fights on short, on quick turnarounds, was willing to step up and fight whoever the UFC get offered. And while we, or I love the romanticism of this sort of unofficial final four, which saw Nassadine Imavov, who's probably going to get the next shot here against Shemayev, deservedly so, took that decision from Bahalio, dominated him.

Now it was up to RDR, whether it was fluffy or the last minute change to Alan. It was up to RDR to, you know, outperform what Nassadine did and show us that. So it's like, I like the setup there. But in hindsight, was RDR way too ambitious at this age to go through five camps? 11 months and by by extension was the UFC too ambitious

in allowing him to do that when you could have said Nasradine Imov looked great he's got probably the best case of anyone let him fight for the title next hey RDR you just fought for us four times in like eight months right his last fight was July before this

sit out you're going to get the next shot at the winner is that is that only something you'll think about in hindsight you know what I mean or or looking back was this handled incorrectly by all parties i mean how much were we saying that on friday i don't recall us saying it very much granted we're not the ufc we're not there right on top of these guys but i it wasn't top of mind to me you know which is to say it wasn't relevant i'm just saying how much can we beat the ufc up for something we also did not necessarily take it to full account to the point

you raised though now that he performed this way and again it's not like we didn't see him do five rounds. Granted, again, a different kind of five rounds. But, like, people keep thinking, like, Brendan went in there, like, you know, to the poster behind you, BC, to the Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin thing. That's not what this was. I mean, it was slow. It was steady. And at times it was pointed. But it wasn't like an avalanche of ground and pound where he was really kind of fighting for his life. It was just sort of this steady accumulation. You recall, he tried to set up that same big dash triangle in round three as well. I mean, there was a few signs of life along the way. But I do think your point is well taken, B.C.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm completely making this up. But it does, it seemed to me he had an unusual, unusually empty gas tank that just expired very quickly. And his game, I think, has suffered in part maybe from things like this in the past, but not to this extent, B.C. And this was, this was bad. All right.

Let's talk Brendan Allen, the 29-year-old who attempted to rep Canada for this due to his grandparents' heritage, although we know him, of course, as a Louisiana and he had the back-to-back decision losses to top-level contenders, Imovov and Fluffy Hernandez in their rematch, did bounce back nicely against Marvin Vittori, won the fight of the night, looked pretty damn good. However weird this fight was, and it was disappointing, it was a bit boring at times. This was all Brendan Allen almost all the time outside of that time for most of the first round that he was on the bottom.

So Luke Thomas, how much did this turnaround your opinion of Brendan Allen as a potential title challenger i definitely thought that this and the vittori fight were good fights to begin to build right so he was on a losing streak and then he beats vittori and he does it in a you know relatively consistent and i don't think especially controversial way and then this one he got handled in round one i don't think there's really any question about that it wasn't 10 8 or anything but he definitely got handled in round one. But as we indicated, really, the tide began to turn in the second half of the second round and he was off to the races from there.

I mean, I would just be lying if I said I didn't have more questions, B.C. We did say on Friday and things we can talk about, we did say on Friday, I think both you and I, they're like, you know, listen, you watch Brendan Allen's offense on tape. It looks pretty good. Like, there's a lot to really enjoy about it. It's pretty well-rounded. The grappling, particularly from the back, is active. He's got good positional control plus ground and pound at the same time.

You know, so these are not things that are. He can't do in concert with one another. And I think that advances his cause on the feet. He's gotten into trouble at times, but he's still pretty competent to even good there. So there's a lot to like, but I just don't know if I've seen a performance where, you know, he went up against someone and it was authoritative without any other questions. Vitori's tough to look good again. He looks good against RDR. No question about it.

but I still have questions about RDR's place. So are these two wins nothing? No, of course not. They're very, very good wins. But you're asking about like, do I see him as a future title contender? Well, because he's 29, yes. But to really ascend to that place, BC, I think some more development is still in order. Yeah, you wonder, look, I think we're at the point where we can say this out loud.

You wonder if him being an American potential title contender could help him along. We know people get bumped along when they're marketable. I wonder if this helps him during this era when we are so void of super elite American talent on the UFC level. But look, good to see Brandon Allen bounce back. The Chomai of call out. Is that considering that, you know, he lost twice in a row just recently to two guys who are in some cases in line next for title, Nasreddinemov without question, and then the win streak of Fluffy Hernandez, even though the injury pulled him out of an opportunity to gain that.

was it like lame of him to call it tamayev or was that the right move and then of course he did pivot on down after that to everyone from ddp to sean strickland potentially i mean i think he was just trying to shoot you know catch the biggest fish that's the time to do it yeah i don't feel it didn't land it didn't land very well but that's that's the moment yeah all right we do have sound here of brend and allen after the fight talking about what could be next to him in response to what he had said in the cage. So I know, I know you called out Hamza, but you also called out Sean and you called out Dreykis.

Is there one out of the two between Dreykis and Sean that you would prefer? Like, me personally, I would love to see you and Dreykis. I think that would be a fun fight, but who would you like? Man, I went to them both for different reasons. Like, I've always wanted to fight Drix. Obviously, we've had our Tiff back and forth or whatever. I always something to say. To be honest, for me, I just never thought he was like the hype that everyone gave him.

obviously he's been a champion though what can you say about him he's been a champion and he defended excuse me no matter what you say he's been at the highest level so hats off to him for that but um i want a former champion on my resume i've had title challengers on my resume now i want a former champion in this promotion uh derrador's one champion but i want this promotion so um one of those two i want Sean because we've had we had one a long time ago and i felt as winning and did something Stupin got caught, Dreykis, obviously, he's a former champion that was very sought, very talked about, obviously, and it would be great to see who's talking, who can back up their talk. So either one's fine, but I'm just, I'm ready to get home and see my family. It's been

a little minute, and I'm, I'm just excited to meet my new baby girl in January of February. So, Luke, to give you the lay of the land rankings wise for the UFC, Trickest Dup will see the former champion as the number one rate of fighter. Number two, Nassardine, I'movov, appears to be next. And number three is the former champion, Sean Strickland. Who should be next for Brendan Allen who would deserve an upgrade after this would? That's a great question. I don't hate the DDP idea. They got rivalry. I think it would prove a lot if Brendan Allen was able to get a win. Conversely, yes, DDP has beaten better guys than Brendan Allen, but DDP can be overwhelmed at positionally.

Brendan Allen's got good positional control and good takedowns, good jiu-jitsu. Like, there's reasons to think that they could make for an interesting matchup. If you're trying to think it's like someone else you could do, you could do Izzy Brendan Allen. I don't know if Izzy wants that fight. That's something you could do. The Sean Strickland one, I do think because he's got connectivity

to Chimayev with history, that they're going to try and maybe hold him for that or maybe they give him that one too, B.C., you know, something like that. What do you do with Fluffy? What do you do with Fluffy who pulled out of this exactly what has two wins. Fluffy beat him twice, once in LFA

and once in February of this year. So what do you think Fluffy gets DDP then? And then you give Strickland to Allen, or do you keep Strickland out, as you're saying, to plug him into a title fight that you know you can sell? Are they dying to give Brendan Allen a title shot? I don't. I'm talking about Strickland in a title shot,

like you mentioned against Chameh. Oh, yes. That to me seems, I just think it'd be foolish to not take that seriously, right? Okay, Long Island Luke reminds us that Robert Whitaker's out there too. So if you're going to match, make this group of names. Yes, you could do that as well. It'd be weird though for like RDR to beat Whitaker, then lose to Allen, but then Allen's got to fight. It's kind of a weird game, but yes, that's the thing you could do as well. All right, regarding what could be next for RDR, not specifically in terms of opponents, but where he goes from here,

Brendan Allen had a few thoughts on that as well. Where would you think RDR would go from here? Because you said all week, you said he's just not that guy. That was the big clip. You said he's not that guy. Where do you think he goes from here? I don't know, man. I've had to rebuild myself, so it's, I don't know, man. There's other options, you know, he can still keep fighting. He's only, what, 21 and 3, 4 and 2 or 4 and 1 in this promotion? I don't know, but he's got a future still. He's still going to come out here and make money. He can go up a weight class. He's big, but I think that's up to him and his team and whatever him and his family and team decide. all right fair enough right there uh breakthrough win for brendan allen we'll see how rdr bounces back

once we hear from him for the first time after this devastating loss let's slide into topic number two i know i know l t's going to have a lot to say about this not just another almost weekly referendum on the state of mma refereeing we got to talk about what went on on this vancouver card because referee either mistakes or or maybe we could say questionable judgment played a key role in at least three fights leading to fans calling for a major overhaul. Look, this was an absolute debacle where veteran referee Dan Maregliata had mishandled moments in both the Kyle Nelson map for a vola fight, including where he appeared to stop the fight rightfully in the closing seconds of round one before the buzzer, only to unnecessarily restarted,

leading to Kyle Nelson getting both a knockout and a decision win in the same night to what he did or didn't do in the Mike Mollock, Kevin Holland fight with multiple. low blows and how that played a role in the result. We also have to mention referee John Cooper, who I like that he took away the point from Kyle, excuse me, from Drew Dober against Kyle Preppelect, but you also have to question the when and how much that affected the end of the fight. Either way, it's every single week here. It's important to note this is not a UFC problem per se.

It's a commission and ABC Association of Boxing Commission's issue, but it's nonstop to the point that we are going to go to the extreme. and how we break this down. Jed Mishu number two, friend of the program, MMA Fighting Zone, had a tweet so aggressive that we did how to bring in Cuervo right now

for something we like to call shots fire. Shots fired is brought to you by Cuervo and now is a good time to enjoy that tequila that invented tequila. Here is Jed Mishu's immediate reaction Saturday to what we saw. Quote, I do not say this lightly.

Dan Marigliata should never be allowed to referee again. Hashtag UFC Vancouver, end quote. LT, let's be real here. Is the idea of a suspension or even firing Marigliata too extreme? Or is this necessary or something like this to fuel some type of immediate change that we seem to cry about every single week? I man I don't even know where to start with something like this

um Dan mergly had a terrible night he had a terrible night for starters in the frivola fight where he appears to wave the fight off because he can't hear the clapper uh this was the not hearing the

clapper fight or excuse me situation happened previously this year with big dan so this is now the second time this year that we've seen a situation like this happened that's sort of the one issue but i mean obviously that wasn't the only fight where he the kevin holland fight where he refuses to take a point among a series of other problems with how that was officiated there's just a lot going on where it seems like there's a couple of problems we see it seems like there's a lot of common figures that we've seen for a long time that we've kind of gotten used to that who maybe appear to be declining on

the job but that that's up for debate but certainly i think a bit of a feeling and then that is kind of going in conjunction with sometimes do like we're watching weeks where the referees just make it up the Australia card where it was a submission oh no he's awake no it's not like you know what I mean like you're intervening or you're not you're making a judgment call or you're not and either they're not taking points or they're intervening at the very wrong times or you know just they don't seem to have a command of the job in ways that you would expect top tier referees to do it to the point that now it's seemingly ad-libbing I don't even know where to begin with this.

I mean, I'm just going to say it out loud. The commission model, the way that we have designed, the way in which it has spread throughout the country, this is a failed model. As long as I have been around, we have been having conversations like this. And it is not to say that there have not been improvements over time, or it's not to say that there aren't individual commissioners, judges, refs, timekeepers, you name it, who aren't loyal servants to the states in which they work and to the athletes to whom they're charged to protect. There are. There are people who are trying to do this. But as a system-wide situation, it's a complete failure. There's total regulatory capture from the ABC to the CSAC to the Nevada Athletic Commission making, for example, pay private for whose sake, certainly not the athlete's sake. You know, there's that kind of thing that's happening. More to the point BC, like there was a bit of a discussion that's like which sport doesn't have referee scandals or controversies. And the answer is all of them do. But dude, like in order to be an NFL, The amount of training you have to go through and the amount of money that is spent training them to be able to do that and then to pay them their talents, these are vastly in excess of what you get on the combat sports side. If you see more to the point that, for example, in American football, they have better systems to review bad calls. Bad calls still get made, but they have more of them also more to the point in these other sports B.C.

where, for example, in baseball, you have to call literally balls and strikes and outs at home plate. You're making a large amount of public calls all the time. In MMA, you're asked to make maybe in a round a handful of calls. And even that minor amount still appears to be tripped up. But I've done this before. I've done this song and dance being like, we've got to demand accountability. We've got to demand change. There is none.

It cannot be done. The system is, short of Nick Diaz getting banned for five years for marijuana, which was so bad as a controversy that it bubbled its way up to the governor's office and then they intervened. Short of that kind of intervention, BC, the kind of standard, hey, we're at the UFC Apex or in this particular case, Vancouver, Canada, and the referees kind of bungled it. There's no way for this to push the news into a place that it can ever lead to any kind of accountability. This is just what it is. Dude, they turn in these scorecards and they won't let anybody talk to any of the referees or the judges. It's this over and over and over again. So I just want to say, I'm not saying that there's not a case to complain or certain guys couldn't be subbed into roles and they'd be better than other ones.

I'm just saying this is a lifetime of friction you have to get used to because this system can only be scrapped. It cannot be reformed. I think that's right. And while I say it's not the UFC's fault and it definitely isn't the way this system is set up, I would like to see them or Dana go scored Sturth again. I mean, in the past, if it was Steve Mazzagati

or who was the other guy, Luke? Mario Yamasaki? I mean, they damn near ran those two out of a job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but hold on. Like here's the thing with the UFC. It's like, dude, did Yamasaki have some bad calls, of course, or Steve Mazagati or, you know, whoever you want to name.

John Shirley had a bunch of bad calls. That's true. and I don't want to, like, dude, some people are going to be better at this than others, and we want to spotlight the high achievers. I don't know what the answer is, B.C., but there's never been an entity like the UFC in all of combat sports, both in terms of the scope of its business and the amount of money that they have. I don't know how to make this work from a act of legislature.

I don't know what the mechanism would be. But, dude, they should be taxed on this. They should be taxed into getting better referee training, better efficient training, better money for people who do this rather than just, hey, the states have to pay for this and we're just going to let it be a state thing because as long as the states are funding it, it's going to be underfunded.

If you want a higher level of funding, the one entity that essentially controls the whole joint, they should be on the hook for a little bit more of this. Right. I think the commissions need a backbone. It's the same thing we say when they make decisions that totally favor the power promoters. We'd like a backbone in those instances. I'd love a backbone to create a level of accountability.

I'm not saying Dan Berglata has to get fired. He's got a long career. He's done a lot of great things. But if you're slipping, whether you're a boxing judge, whether you're an MMA referee, whatever it is, I think there should be a public comment about it. We're going to look into it. We're going to suspend a guy. We're going to pull somebody off.

You know, it's like when Adelaide Byrd had that horrible scorecard in Golovkin, Canelo won. And that was the only time I remember, particularly the media at that Post-Five press conference, going after Bob Bennett of the Nevada Commission, being like, You just say, oh, it was one bad night, but these one bad nights cost these fighters. Sometimes, you know, a big turn, a direction in their career, life-changing money. We know how tight the margins are for UFC fighters. So to see three fights ultimately affected on here in aggressive ways, something, something's got to be done here for full accountability to, I don't want to reset and bring in an experience, guys.

We hate when UFC goes to a state that doesn't normally regulate, you know, high-level UFC. and we see inexperienced people in there. But something's got to be done because not only is there a reluctance, it seems, from the big name referees of inserting themselves into the fight by establishing early, not with aggressive hard warnings and then points.

And I think obviously you can take a point without a warning if it's something that is impacting the fight. They seem not only afraid to make those decisions, they seem like they don't know what the right decision is in some of these big key moments. so it looks like a clown show where the fighters are essentially their future when you're getting show and win money half of your salary is dependent on these people getting it right we do have some form of instant replay here but if you can't jump in and instantly instant replay something or situation where everyone around could be like i don't think that's the correct way to handle it then we don't have a good system so look let's talk quickly about these fights and what happened and what could have should have let's start with mike malott there versus kevin holland because it was higher up on the card. Mike Mollat landing a multiple groin strikes,

the first one being a full-on kick, the second one being a knee that grazed in the first round. Kevin Holland did not look fit to continue. He took the full five minutes. He wasn't responding well to being asked if he continued. Then at the end of the first round, he comes out still looking like he can't fight. He gets an extended time to rest and talk about it

as the ringside doctor is there. And then Marigliata is like, well, look, you don't continue, you're going to lose by DQ. So he continues and he loses anyway, despite, by the way, rallying and bloodying the nose of Mike Malott, how should that have been handled differently? Or can I just tell you how it should have been? Maybe an aggressive warning and a point on the second one. What the hell are we doing here?

Like you always say, the fighters have no reason not to do this, whether it's on purpose or you're just saying, if it happens, it happens. you have no reason not to do that i pokes at least we're trying to put it out there that that we give you reason not to do that what the what the frick dude how do you not take a point on that second crotch strike within a minute of each other i don't know i don't i don't this is what i mean i don't how i don't know i don't know why anything works the way that it does but this is the way that it does like you're asking like what mergliata should have done it's like well at what stage you know what I mean like there's a bunch of different decisions that could have been made in a few

different directions in a few different times but I basically agree with you there should have been a point taken like two times like that it clearly affected him the rest of the fight he was even tweeting today he has to go get I think uh I don't know if an MRI or a cat scan or you know some kind of ultrasound uh on his on his junk because it's all jacked up you know it's like we got tweet here let's show the one of the earlier tweets from holland after the fights if you can man And Fook, what y'all talking about, bro kicked a STD into my dick, my nuts hurt. So while that, Luke is maybe outside of the realm of proper human public speaking, we get the point, dude.

Like, I mean, what the hell is Kevin Holland supposed to do in this? He's faced with a, he's faced at the end of the first round, whether it's the legality of the law or not, he was put in a corner by Maraglia, Mariglada that said, you can either continue or you're going to lose by DQ, which one's it going to be? No, Dan, how about you enforce that shit, man? Yeah. Yeah. Why is there a point taking which, by the way, could change the equation, if not in this bout, certainly in others in terms of how the scoring works. And also, dude, like you're beating a very diminished opponent. You're beating a guy who can't shake groin pain that is both distracting and it could be even like, you know, it makes it hard to move nimbly. Like it's a tremendous handicap. And then he has to go and compete like this with, again, no recourse being taken at all. Why would you not? cheat if you had to in MMA? What would be the argument? It's like the like literally, and I'm saying this as honestly as I can, the only argument against fouling in MMA is if the fighter

fouling feels like they don't want to do that because they want to compete in an honorable way, but you know, for their own sense of, you know, virtue preservation. But in terms of like a practical matter, it is foolish to not foul. It is foolish. It is foolish. This was two fouls, and it was the same foul. They won't do anything. I know in the Preppelike fight, there was that foul, but then that one came only after the second offense, which, okay, at least you got something there.

But even then, it was kind of predicated on whether or not the thing was bad enough over time. Yeah, that was referee John Cooper, who could be heard telling the commission during the five-minute break that Preppelike had. And by the way, that was Drew Dover winding up for a full-on soccer kick to the nuts. He told the commission, if he makes it to the four-minute, minute mark being preplec and it's still hurt during this five minute period, then I'll take away a point. And it's like, what if, if, look, I get that there's grazing fouls. Those can get a

warning. But whether the second consecutive foul is grazing or not, if you got a warning, the second fall should be a point. And if the first foul is as aggressive as the kick that hit Holland or that wind up kick that hit preplex, if you establish that we are taking points for this, just like in football that you know you can't go helmet to helmet anymore you know what I mean just like a football that you know that you have that strike zone of where you can tackle somebody you could force the fighters to change the way they do it but you have to enforce it uh here's Mike Malott talking afterwards about the effect of these low blows on this fight against Holland but you know he's the one that got the win by the way no um I think we both

through kicks at the same time and and one of mine went low first and then that second one like my knee hit him in the hip my shin I think brushed his cup but like I got to watch it back maybe I'm maybe I'm crazy but I'm like dude I swear my knee hit him in the like in the in the hip like right above right above the belt line there but he's just so tall man it's hard to like dude's like all limbs right it's like his hips are so high it's hard to get that knee up so you know I'm sure my my shin did hit him in the groin and you know I bet it hurt I don't think he was you know being dramatic or anything I'm sure it was bugging but yeah a bit of an odd one but all right that happened you can't control it there's 10 straight

minutes let's just get back to it and reset it and refocus and my coach did a good job of just being like look don't worry about that you're probably down one let's adjust let's you know do this do this get out there and go win this fight you got 10 minutes to do it and yeah feel good with it what about like in the moments after that where he's like wintzing and stuff still and turning his back to you and like kind of all those moments is a tough to figure out how to navigate what you're going to do yeah like i again he's like a chaotic guy is he doing that because he wants me to like rush in and do something stupid and he's going to rip a right hand or something like that and try and knock me out like is he planned possum

can he just not continue i'm like yeah i don't know maybe i should have just gotten on him a little bit more um but uh whatever man hindsight's 2020 i mean i don't think mila had bad intentions But when he says, my shin grazed his cup, but the knee landed on the hip, you still hit him in the crotch for the second straight time. So, Luke, I know the rules are the rules, but shouldn't have this, this fight as Holland being forced to fight in the final minute, circling away, I know you could say, well, because they already restarted the fight, it should be a DQ, but shouldn't it just been a no contest at that point? It's obvious this guy can't continue, but doesn't want to quit. The other guy followed him twice. Can we just have that loophole in the rules that that should be a no contest and we remit? I mean, you get back to these other problems. Like, you know, yes, he was kind of

sort of coerced, but Holland did elect to continue. Like, what the fighter wants is not the ultimate arbiter of everything, but it's an important one. You have to, you have to count it. And then if there, if you know your pay is going to get halved as a consequence of this, you know, I mean, the incentive structure in place is, it's going to mess it up. Plus, a lot of these guys just, you know, as a matter of pride are going to say no. I think that would have been a what you're what you're prescribing bc i think would have been certainly a better solution than this weirdness that we've ended up getting um but you know i'm not asking for perfect solutions i'm just asking for better standards of application better uh understanding of the

importance of like dude you cannot have a system that doesn't penalize uh fouls you cannot do it it ruins everything down extreme from it. It is such a bad way in which to let it go forward. And they have married it and all of the things you'll notice BC, there's just now a series of other things that happened by virtue of them not doing it that then compound the problem even further as the bout proceeds. It's like getting some of these things, these core questions right early actually has a much more of a deterrent effect long term rather than, you know, waiting for disaster to strike and then still doing nothing about it. you know, I don't know exactly what all the right answers are, but I think the first and foremost one is enforce penalties,

and let's see where we can go from there. Long Island, look, can you play that Twitter recap of the Drew Dover situation here? I want to quickly close on John Cooper's decision. So this was a fight where Kyle Prepeleck, the underdog, who's riding a losing skid here trying to save his job, was largely putting it on Drew Dober for more than two rounds. Then Dober lands a full-on wind-up kick to the nuts. The ref doesn't deduct a point.

Preppolec looks visibly hurt, waits until the four-minute mark, as we said earlier, and then suddenly the referee jumps in to deductive point. The ref restarts the fight. Propolek is a minus, what is that, 800 betting favorite live. And to Drew Dober's credit, he goes full kamikaze, rushes a wounded fighter, gets the finish. We had Hainato Moycano tweeting out, hey, referee, that KO is on you. You ultimately caused it by the way you handled it. Luke we like when people take away points yet I don't this this Cooper decision doesn't sit well with me

is that just what happens that if they restart the fight and one guy's going to go balls to the walls and he gets the finish that's what it is because I do feel bad for Propaak here as well I went back and I watched that one a couple more times BC it's not clear to me that wasn't just what you said which was okay he was getting beat up and then the ball kick didn't help but then they restart and he just gets swarmed. But again, I'm going to go back to the same thing I said about Holland. How compromised are these guys really? You know, how much does it really take out of you?

I think for some of them, they're able to adapt and overcome or ride the fight out. It's not so big. But then some of these other guys, dude, it seems to be like a real problem for them. It changes the momentum of a fight. It changes, I don't know, their defensive awareness. Maybe they feel like their sensibility about everything kind of changes. But it's not one of those fights where you can look at the replay, B.C., in my view, and be like, oh this is this is so clearly tied to the foul itself it seems like you know deterrence or

the problems that can emerge kind of cut a couple different ways and i think in the case of dober bc he just took that and was like well i don't have a choice here like what what other way can i fight and win at this point so he just went berserk and then it kind of worked it's not exactly clear what you can tie that to so again so many situations can be gray and we at least got a point deduction here, which may have resulted in what you got. I just feel like if there was stronger enforcement across the board, I'd be curious to see what that does to the amount of fouling that you see more broadly. And I don't mean to complain about a point being taken away without a warning, which is what we want. I'm just complaining about the fact that he

openly set out loud that I'm only taking this point if we get to the four minute mark. It seems so arbitrary. This was an egregious foul in that regard. All right, to close on Merigliata, as we mentioned, Kyle Nelson and Matt Fervola. put it on for vola late in round one seemed to have him dropped and out potentially with three seconds to go marigliata jumps in didn't hear the horn because the horn didn't blue thought he heard the horn whatever and then suddenly we're restarting it here's kyle nelson reacting to this chaos in which he got the win anyway and he did deserve it but boy i'm sorry for vola had to take two more rounds of punishment uh i'd say it was yeah it was pretty chaotic it was uh i mean my my

my adrenaline spiked um you know i start thinking about like what i'm going to do like the fight's over you know we've been building to this fight for however long month and a half two months um you know i'm looking forward to going home with my fiancee seeing my kids and then like no you got to turn right back around and keep fighting this man um so but i knew i mean i was tired i kind of emptied the gas tank at the end of the first but i knew i'm like i'm going to go into this second round i know i'm not going to give up. I'm not going to quit. He's not going to put me away, and that second win is going to come at some point, and I'll keep pushing through. They had Mark Ratner on the broadcast when this was all going on. He basically said, yeah, this was Dan Mergelado's mistake,

and I think most people would agree with that. Do you feel like he, you know, robbed you of a TKO win here or a different kind of victory? I mean, it is what it is. I won the fight. I don't hold anything against Dan. Dan's always been a great guy. I think he's a great ref. I would love to have the TKO win. But either way, at this point, I fought an extra two rounds. We're not going to be able to change that. I got the victory either way. So I'm just looking forward to moving forward. Again, spending time with the family and then looking at the next fight a lightweight. And we do have a tweet here from Favola, a friend of the program, unfortunately, a third straight defeat at age 35. And I can't read that. Luke, I've got bad eyes. You got a shot at that.

my fight last night. I had no idea there was a big controversy until I got back to the hotel. I never thought the fight was stopped at any point but was confused when the doctor came to look at me after the first ended. After rewatching, it looked like a clear mistake by the ref and thinking the round had ended, but not a mistake

to let me keep going. Maybe that's the fighter in me, but I'm glad I got to keep fighting and even take round two in some of the judge's eyes. Let's bring in resident Long Islander and you know other things other things gambling degenerate but we love yeah yeah we were texting in the middle of this

fight and we're like oh man because after the first round ended i'm like well that's what the fight was stopped i'm like i was hoping for bull that would pull it out and then uh they just kept fighting long island luke what happened i mean i had a fight does not go the distance bet if you really want to rub it in but uh i mean very clearly he got stopped in round one dan stepped in to stop the fight like you said there was no horn It's not like Dan. He waved, right? He waved it. He literally separate. Yeah, he got in there, waved them. It was over. It was done. Frivala gets on his feet and looks like he's out on his feet, you know, as he's being dragged back to his corner.

I literally were sitting here going, all right, yeah, great, fights over. Then they're like, round two's going to start. And we're like, what the fuck is going on? He needs to be overruled by the commission right there. They have the video. They can watch it instantly, can't they? It was so weird. And I feel so bad that Frivala then had to go in there. I think one judge. gave him round two but like dude to go in there for another 10 minutes and just take unnecessary damage for no reason not like he was getting pounded on the whole time but still like you're still in a fight for 10 minutes he got rocked again in round three right probably dude i don't know just the whole thing was a miss like total fucking blunder

yeah i mean the the victim here is you know i know matt for little doesn't feel that way but and you know good win by kyle nelson he did exactly what he was supposed to do uh and look pretty good doing it i might add um and but that fight shouldn't have gone long like the it's just oh my god bro yeah i don't get how they they don't have a someone they're watching the screen going sorry dan you missed that one let let's fix it let's not let this man take punishment because ultimately the commission's biggest concern should be the fighter's well-being not just for the obvious nature of that but for the potential lawsuits and issues and medical problems like that should be the first and foremost

without question thing that they're looking to protect they did not protect mat for vola there That's just what that is. But let's move on to topic number three. There was some big breakthrough wins, of course, on this UFC Vancouver card. How about Menon Farrow in a big way at age 35, putting her May flyweight title loss to Valentina Shvchenko, firmly in the rear view and snapping the five-fight win streak

of a number five-ranked Jasmine, Jazz DeVisius, in just over one minute. It took 74 seconds on a left cross to drop and eventually finish Jazz DeViscius. So, Luke, what type of? statement did the French kickboxer make in terms of where she still stands at the higher levels of this division as we await the Valentina Jean-Weili Superfight in November. Bro, that was about best-case scenario. That was about best-case scenario because, as we've said

before, Furo has some good wins. And by the way, going into enemy territory, appears to be something of a specialty for her. She can do that quite well, too. But coming off that Shevchenko loss, okay, you lose to Shevchenko, no big deal. And again, as I mentioned, she kind of made close as that fight wore on at least a little bit later but you know she got beat up pretty bad early and is otherwise you know typically not known for being an exciting fighter bc like even when she wins and she's dominant it's because you know they like the iron blanchefields can't control her she kind of just sticks and moves and I thought she'd be doing some sticking and moving here bro she pasted jazdivis with that one two and then viciously followed up it was

almost not just a great get back fight but like look what what else I can do fight. Oh, you thought you knew me from all of those. Let me allow me to reintroduce myself kind of a moment, right? I still think she's got a lot of work to do, but, you know, she, that was, again, I'm going to say it, Jazz DeVisius was coming in off a hot streak and had looked, honestly, I thought the best she'd ever look in her career, she had the hometown crowd behind her, and Fioro dispatched her with ease. That was a very strong, term performance from the French woman. Yeah, I wonder if Faroe can fight the winner. Does she need to beat somebody in the interim? We do have Natalia Silva ranked number one. I believe she's got a big

fight coming up. You got Grasso rank three, Blanchfield four, Jazz DeVicious was five coming in. We'll see how that changes in Macy Barber at six. Barber's got Carine Silva soon. I'm not sure. Long Island, do you know who Natalia Silva's facing next? I'm checking her tapology right now. She does not have a fight booked. All right. I wonder if that's a a perfect fight, her in Farrow, but breakthrough comeback performance here from Manon, here's a couple comments from the French woman in the aftermath.

Um, I have really, beaucoup, to be honest, I have a big, big pressure for this fight, but until I go inside the catch, it disappears.

Uh, yes, exactly what I wanted to show. Absolutely. This is Manon 2.0. It all we work for my training camp. Yeah, it's, it's super stressful.

Uh, before the combat. Super stressful. I changed. a lot of things, part of new cornermen and new things, and I asked myself a lot of questions until the fight. But when I go inside, when I step inside the cage, I forgot every question and everything goes straight.

It's true that we've worked a lot on my boxing skills during the camp, and all my coaches say, oh, you hit so hard. So perhaps to hear this, make it conscience for me. now I can play with it. I'm back. I don't care who I have to face in my next fight. I want to back early in this division. Manant 2.0, maybe that can carry over momentum-wise into Cyril gone this weekend.

I hate to have to do this to Dan Murgrileada because he already had a rough night, but we do have fan cam video of the stoppage, which was protested by Jazz DeVisius after. Luke, did Dan get this one right? So, I mean, Jazz DeVisius is in big trouble. She turns away. She shows, I mean, yeah, that's not a bad stoppage. I mean, she was buzzed. You could tell she was buzzed.

The question is when you're, see, an angle like that actually doesn't tell you what you need to know. Yeah. The question would be, what is she looking at and are her eyes with it? You know, in what ways can you evaluate her behavior that indicates intelligence defense? And you need to actually have a closer look at the right things. From there, it looked good enough to me. me to stop. You could maybe argue a little early, but that's not an egregious stoppage. Yeah, I think a little early, but overall

safe, because she's faced down, still getting hit flush. She wasn't blocking or throwing, even though it's right, or, or reaching. She was just kind of there. She was conscious, still conscious, but, but look, she got buzzed. She got dropped. That is the, the gray area where you know a stoppage is coming. So you've got to do something to regain the confidence of the referee. She didn't do that. So I ultimately will give Dan, that credit in that regard on an otherwise tough night. That is topic number three before we continue down to what Cheeto Vero was into on Saturday

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How about Marlon Chito Vera, the former Bannonweight title challenger, aggressively disputing his three rounds split decision loss in a very competitive fight with his streaking Amin Zahabi. And despite Cheeto taking a year off to reset himself following that recent three-fight losing Skid, which included four losses and five fights overall. He walked out of the cage angrily after this split decision defeat. Does

Cheeto have a case in saying what he did post-fight that he was robbed? And how much does this victory ultimately convince you that the 37-year-old Zahabi, the Ariel Hawani impersonator, might be on his way to real title contention. First, here's the tweet

from Cheeto. The IG post, he says, Today I won, and the judges robbed me. was through translation. Luke Thomas, does Cheeto have a case here in a pretty good fight? A case, yes, clearly one round two, dropped him with that jab and did some other good work. Zahabi had a bit of a rebound towards the end of that round, but not enough to take it in my view. So round two goes to Cheeto.

Rounds one and three are close. They're close. Round three, I think, is clear for Zahabi, in my opinion. Okay, but I mean, I mean, um, It was competitive throughout. I agree that Zahby's best round was clearly three, certainly better than two. And one was, you know, it's obviously the swing round.

Let's see the scorecard here because round one seems to be the swing round. Even though Zahubi landed significantly more power shots, I thought Vera landed better power shots that moved him a bit. And as you see, the three judges, one giving it to Zahab, two of the three giving round one to Zahab. So that's ultimately the decider in the split decision. In real time, I did give Chito round one. So I think it's possible that he could win.

But I also think it's almost a little bit of a stretch. That first round was so close that to me it's how you like it. Not a robbery. Not a robbery. That's a tough break for Cheeto. When you take a year off and try to reset, did he still not do enough, which has been a problem with him at times in your eyes? I mean, here's the thing I kind of noticed. Everything was like, oh, he's starting sooner.

He's going to be busier, blah, blah, blah. He had numerically almost the exact same output as he did in the Devincent. figurato fight. He had more per round than he did in the fight before that, which was the Shona-Malley fight. Obviously, he had more aggregately because that was five rounds, but through three he had slightly more there. But not by a huge amount necessarily there either. My point being is it wasn't like, they kept talking about like the time off being restorative and then him changing his mindset. And I think all of that is real. And it did seem from an observational standpoint, BC that he got to work a little bit earlier than he did in other fights.

But the aggregate total and the way in which it overall kind of went, there wasn't substantive overhaul. It was still a lot of the same. And so does he have a case that he should have won rounds one and rounds two? And overall, it's still a competitive bout. Yes, that's not an unfair thing to say. But A, it's not a robbery. And B, the reason why it's not a robbery is not just because it was close.

It's close because I didn't see it. ton of change in the game. I just saw a little bit. And that's not enough to change your fortunes. Yeah, not a robbery, not a tumour, but a tough loss for a guy who is still quasi-a-le. I think you saw that in spark here. Very good. Yeah, it's not the question. But it's like, you do, I don't know how many times I got to say this to fighters. If your fight is at all close and it goes to the judges, you cannot in any way rely on your interpretation of how you saw it. You can't. You cannot do that you must let it just go and realize it is like you whatever you think it is it may or may not and that is just what it is anymore and they think they have a hard time with this like

you cannot leave it close well whether or not you thought aman's a hobby was a real contender coming in or not or whether you thought he had beaten josie aldo last time he has now won seven consecutive fights in this division he's 37 though we talked about that uh you know the the younger brother for rossahhabi's been around the game forever but it seems now in his late 30s that he's really starting to put it in gear. I have to say, I wasn't cheering for him. I've not been overly impressed by him, but this fight, he showed me some adjustments.

He showed me really understanding the necessity of putting on a surge late in rounds, particularly rounds two and three, even though I did think he lost round two getting dropped with that stiff jab. I'll have to say it, Luke, overall, he did kind of impress me. But there's a difference between impressing on this level and the levels that will come for him. How much are you a believer, given his age and the streak he's on, that there's still continued room for improvement?

I mean, is it crazy to think of this man in a title fight if this keeps going? Listen, I've been very surprised. I did not think Cheetah was going to lose that fight. Again, I haven't watched it, it's not surprising. But I'm 37 years old. you know i think the guys he was beating up until recently were you know respectable talents but not in any way a super impressive resume but as we indicated he kind of turned the corner a little bit that aldo fight up at 45 no less um here he is back down at 35 and again he got rocked pretty badly in

the second round but overall just turns in a you know he kind of hunts in pecks bc you know it's a little hard for him i think at times against these elite guys to get really sustained offense but he has clearly improved his game to the point where he's able to stay safe for long periods. He's able to make pretty, not heavy punches per se, but consistent contact. He's well-rounded. He's smart, very smart, clearly well-trained, veteran of this game. And it's foolish to discount him. Do I look at the tape and go, oh, future champion?

No, I don't do that. But the level of success he's achieved and the way which he kind of keeps notching these victories, it's not an accident he puts an excellent effort he's very prepared and however awkward he might look to you it's a winning formula well he had a call out ready and that was sugar shan o'malley the former champion who was watching here's his reaction and he was shown oh that would be an amazing fight congratulations can't give it up and look before i get your take on this fight here is a hobby afterwards and that he was shown this video at the post-fight press conference

here's his reaction to the reaction i can't hear anything i don't think he says i think he's reacting to you saying it and like is it like oh who me type of reaction i mean yeah that's good you know i mean uh it seems like we're setting it up boys it seems like we're setting it up if he didn't want it he wouldn't have made a video yeah what how do you feel you win that fight like are you very obviously confident that match up yeah i'm confident any matchup you know listen i'm in the top 10 now if i'm not willing to fight anybody in the top 10 what am i doing here you know so I want to fight them all. He's number one.

And I feel like the way things are going with Marab, he's clearing out the division. And, like, not to sound negative, you know, Sean Amali is a great fighter and all that, but he fought Marab twice. So I don't think he's up next for the belt. I feel like there's going to be maybe Umar, Batista, Jan.

You know, there's some guys who are going to get the title fight before maybe Sean O'Malley because he lost to Marab two times. And I don't mean that in a disrespectful way. So I feel like I have the opportunity to fight somebody like, So I want to take it. Do you have a perfect timeline for that fight when it could happen?

I got to get my nose checked and my face checked. I don't see what happened after this fight. But yeah, but I guess, you know, March, June. You know, because he's fighting in December 6th, I think, or December 14. I don't know what Sean is fighting. He's fighting Song-e-Dong, right? It hasn't been announced yet. Oh, okay.

I see it on Twitter. I don't know if it's a rumor or whatever. That's not official. Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought it was official. But yeah, let him take his fight. fighting if he's not fighting whatever i mean i'll wait and i know ramadan is going to be in

february so i'm not going to be fighting during ramadan but after that i'm ready uh the number one ranked omali is linked to rumors for song yodong and given that the ram Ramadan is coming up for zhabi that would make sense that omali would fight that in between and i think we all believe that saturday's umar versus bautista fight will produce the next title challenger whether it is uh jan in the rematch or marab that comes out with it i mean you could have a trilogy depending on what happens obviously but luke the good news that fursa hobby is rank number nine he seems to be in the mix uh i think he deserves a fight at this level for sure yes he's earned it i mean again yes he's earned it he is again he's hunting and pecking

he's he's scratching and clawing and he's collecting but the collection is substantial enough at this point to really warrant uh you know and this by the way this was one of those things we see he beats Josealdo and he gets rewarded back at Bantamweight with a fight against a guy who is still a relevant figure in that division and he, you know, he got by him, however controversial you might say, which I don't think is very controversial at all, but he gets by him. Yeah, dude, he, everything he's got at this point, he's earned. You can't say it's some kind of luck or that they're just favoring him or something. He's getting the job done. Yeah, he really is in a big way. As we look up and down the rest of this card, how about 21 seconds? That's all it took for the Bandomay

or Ritchie Long to send Cody Gibson down with a loud right cross. Maybe it was a quickish stoppage, but the brutality of that first punch was huge. Whether it was O'Reachey Long or anyone else you're picking off the menu here, Luke. What else did you like on Saturday? Yes, I'm pulling up my notes. Give me just one second here. Yes. So for this one, a few directions you could go, BC, and I want to get long on look on this one.

How about Yusri, I always mispronounce his name, Belgarwee, Belgarwe, how do you say? his last name, Long Island Luke. I don't know either. Bill Gowery, something like that. Against Osamot, Becolaev. Again, I don't watch these fights with the sound on, so that ends up fucking me up a little bit on the show. I think it's Bella Legosi.

I think that's how you brought up. Yes, Bella Legosi, the famous Hollywood figure. In all seriousness, Long Island Luke, he took it to him angrily. This was a huge upset, was it not? He was. He was like Osamaat was expected to kind of roll over him. Yeah, he was like a plus 250 underdog.

It upset a lot of people. It threw a lot of wrenches. A lot of dogs cashed on this card. Jordan Santos as well against Danny Barlow was like a plus 300 dog also how about Charles jordan against davy grand yeah he looks the fuck out of you know and i want to say very impressive stop i called that 30 seconds before it happened i said charles jordane is the vault or walker of featherweight he has back-to-back guillotine's going to get another guillotine club and sub guillotine let's go call yeah so those were good for me bcc how about canada's melissa carotin at bannam weight

and her debut, Luke, against Lisboa. Did you not tune in that early? It was a fairly strong performance. I saw the highlight. I will say this, BC. So you've got the women's bansomweight fight there. You got the women's strawweight fight between Luciano and Oliva. And then you had the next women's fight,

the women's flyweight contest at Fioro versus Jazz DeVisius, all stoppages. Not bad. We have been complaining that these, they couldn't put it on each other enough to really get the stoppage. And we got three of them on this card. Yeah, that's right. Rodin did get the stoppage in that late in that third round. I completely forgot about that. uh but you know uh hey long out look quickly you think a richey long should come out to a um full

asian uh inspired cover of aqualong by jeth rotell and just change the words a little bit or what that would be sick speaking i'm not speaking of jeth roteau but just speaking of music in general saw ever clear sponge and local h last night was local h bound for the floor of course they were also they're a duo i didn't realize that it's it's just two of them that's dude don't tell me ever clear was washed because bands from that era unfortunately are starting to be washed so i saw ever clear a year ago and they were washed as shit they were actually better this time around or maybe i just had low expectations how how washed can ever clear be they're playing three chords the whole time that's fair they're they're all former heroin addicts

who were 30 something in the 90s so they're that's right me something former heroin Eddie issues, yeah. Iggy Pop is still out there at 10,0006 fucking performing. So, you know, it can be done. We can live beside the ocean. No, no. Father of mine. Yeah, there you go.

Hey, topic number five, get ready. It's this Saturday in Abu Dhabi. Pay-per-view time. That's why we are getting back together in two days for a pre-game preview. It's UFC 321 and the heavyweight championship and the main event. the horizon and this UFC 321 storyline segment on the road to 321 is brought to you by total wireless official wireless provider of UFC get that unlimited data that won't slow you down yeah we're talking total wireless what I'm talking about storylines is this pressure we had the trainer

of course of cyril gone ferdinand lopez coming out this week and saying he believes tom Aspinall is under more pressure to defend his undisputed championship after John Jones gave up the belt against Cyril Gahn than any fighter he can remember in decades. I talked to Cyril Gond this morning for an interview that you can see coming up on the BCX and he said, look, Aspinall's got pressure for sure, but so do I after, of course, laying eggs and big title losses to John Jones and Francis and Gano. But Luke, specifically to Tom Aspinall, people expect. him to win this.

People didn't even think Cyril Gahn deserved this title shot because of how close and disputed that rematch with Volkov was just a few months back. So how much pressure do you believe Tom Aspinall is under to live up to his own hype and not fall victim to the words of

John Jones that he's not worthy of a big super fight as he enters this fight against a anything but red hot gone? I think the pressure is enormous. enormous he's now the full weight class champion and this is a title defense uh that's the first thing like you've never actually been in this position you've kind of always been the guy who's

been the plucky upstart well not plucky but you know certainly the upstart and now you're not now those considerations are gone second of all you're another person's home territory okay it's not about that per se but you know there's no necessarily well i mean i guess we'll see if the brits travel for that one that could be interesting to see i guess i guess we'll point that later time but the point is this bc you know cyril gone for all his problems he is a good striker he is a good athlete certainly and i think has gone to much later distances in fights than tom aspinall has you know just the fact that he might be able to take him into the third round which has not happened yet for his ufc tenure could be proved massively consequential there there's still a lot we don't know about tom

And again, we've been consistent on this show, which was, you know, maybe people think that Tom Aspinall would have beaten John Jones. Maybe you think that. I tend to think that too, but I don't know that. And in fact, there's a lot about Tom we don't know and we never got tested. The whole point about John having to fight him was like, that's the guy. Not that we, because of his place that he earned, not that, oh, that's the guy that we think 100% can beat you. Again, I tend to think you probably would. But there is so little for a guy this accomplished BC. There is shockingly little known about him in terms of ways he can be pushed and what happens to him when he does get pushed. This is, we're still, you can't believe it, but we're still in a fact-finding operation. Poetan is talking about coming up to this weight class. He didn't necessarily spotlight, you know, Aspinall per se, but there's not a lot of interesting contenders for him. If he bottles this, this would be cataclysmic for UFC because who else would they even promote

in this weight class? yes, I guess Don at that point, who is popular in France, and that is an important market. We get a Volkov trilogy with Gone, all right? Oh, my God. Well, he has to get by Al-Meda this weekend. I mean, you know, or whatever they're fighting again. You know, so I'm just saying, everyone's kind of thinking like,

oh, gone and has showed us his cards, and he's not good in a lot of areas, and Tom will just walk over him and happily ever after. That's probably what happens. But there's still enough unknown about Aspinall that you should be very careful about just decrees. declaring this is the next step in his journey. I fully agree. And by the way,

Gond did tell me this morning that if he wins the championship on Saturday, he'd be more than happy to welcome Alex Pereira as a first title challenger. So that is interesting, even if we believe Pereira's headed toward a White House fight with John Jones. That would be, of course, non-title. The draft king's odds at this moment, Tom Aspernolly minus 380 betting favorite plus 300 for Cyril Gahn, which, again, everything you said was accurate, Luke,

the things we don't know about Aspinall and the fact that he is nearly a four to one favorite to get this done. Rightfully so when you consider the slide Gone has been on outside of that bounce back stoppage of Sergei Spivak immediately after the John Jones fight. I don't

know if we've seen Gone look like Pete gone more than just that fight in like his last four or five. It's just the way it is. Toivasa fight included in there where he did take damage. But here is Tom Aspinall directly talking about this topic. topic of pressure on him entering this fight.

Are you feeling pressure on this one? Nate, of course. Like, if you're getting a fist fight in front of millions of people with somebody else, you should be feeling pressure. You should be feeling pressure. The difference is, I think that I do really, really well against pressure. I think that Cyril is an extremely talented fighter. I think that sometimes the pressure gets a little bit too much for him.

It gets too much for everybody at some stage. But I think that I'm one of the people. who shine under pressure like i seen somebody told me recently that the elite fighters it means everything to them but they do it like it means nothing and i think that that's the approach that i have really well is like this fight means absolutely everything but i've got to go in there like i don't care about it and put on a great performance and this is cyril's third title shot and although there's a lot of pressure on me i think there's also a lot of pressure on him because if he doesn't win this one he's probably not going to get a fourth do you know what i mean

so it's uh there's pressure on both of us mate there's a lot of pressure on me there's a lot of pressure on him and uh i think it's an exciting fight all around i wonder how much pressure is on luke's bowels this deep into the show but that's a topic i've shipped three times today of course for another day uh speaking of gone though we do have this video a couple months old but it's interesting it's him sparring with teammate their nasser or countryman nasserine imovov and getting ragdolled by the middleweight luke gone told me today that he's more than ready if this fight goes to the ground he said people never got to see how hard he actually does work because of how disastrous the john jones fight was but man he doesn't look like he's

doing well in these moments here he's not getting ragdalled this is not ragdolled all right he's getting he's getting uh initially it looked like he was he was getting thrown around a little i know they're just show one more time let me talk this through show one more time i'm a i'm a white belt loop here comes their open stance he shoots to the double goes behind and he puts zero on his hands he stands back up, he returns him to the mat, he stands back up, he breaks the hands, he returns him to the mat, he holds him a little bit here off his pin, but he rolls through, stands back up, we've got a front headlock here, you've got to be careful, they got the other gloves. I mean, what I would say is Imavov is making him work for it, but this is not

in any way ragdalling. All right, that is good to hear, ultimately there for serial gain. For serial gain, as John Jones refused everyone. I did ask him about that today, not to give away all the good moments. Bon gamine is here. Luke, here is a pick of the rest of of Saturday's UFC 321 card. Of course, that co-main event, Jandaroba Dern 2 for the vacant UFC strawweight title. You can see some other names that we know far too well on this card, including Umar and Armaghamedoff in a very important fight against Mario Batista.

You got Volkov Almeida, Rackich Mirzikhanov. Luke, is there anything else storyline-wise or just matchup-wise? I mean, I know you've got Hamdi Abdel Wahb versus Chris Barnett, circled on your undercard. Well, the Chris Barnett one is great because he's representing Spain, even though he's American. That's fun. Honestly, it's definitely got to be Nirmiga Madov, just getting back to the winning column,

but also old Mursa Kahnov might have Rackich's number. I mean, Rackich is big, physical. He can do a lot that I think Mersa Kanoff can't. But Mersikonov's got a natural kind of quick flow to the way he moves. Fast feet, fast hands, you know, good combos. that might be real tough for rackage. That's a good fight. That's one of the sleeper fights for me

that I actually care about. Yeah, yeah, good stuff right there. Long Island, Luke, you are a, God, you are a... I mean, the guy was asking me on prop quiz to name, like, Odey Osborne's, like, first three fights, and I'm like, I don't know how you didn't know it. You're telling me, Rebetschki, Rubenski versus Klein is going to be something here.

That's going to be fun. Klein, those are two, like, unranked, all-action guys. that's going to be a ball at you say all right now whatever you want you see ball yeah i'll pick both thank you they're going to have sex brian campbell yes yes finally jim lampli will be proven right look you know what i mean right yeah they uh okay that's weird uh thank you very much they're falling in love yeah this saturday ufc 321 do not miss our pregame preview this wednesday 11 a m eastern on the youtube's live and direct from new york look i know what i wanted to close with here to paraphrase the great

Chuck Mindenhall, who will be joining us when he said the Poetan Izzy famous story content. We all think this story is about Tom Aspinall. Maybe it's about Cyril gone. You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, maybe this is Cyril's story. Maybe serial gain is the real gainer in the situation. Yeah, may all your serial be loyal. There you go.

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It's time for you guys to talk. This one's called DMs from the diggities. Right. That's gross. Show me your O face. This first one's from Lyston Ring J. 1775. That's our guy, Joe,

run dem cheeks. He's a marine for life, Luke. Favorite fall activity to do with your family. Luke, I'm a leaf peeper. I like long drives with the sunroof open, the tunes playing,

checking out them fall colors. Do you have that in D.C.? Do we have, the fall the season of fall in the mid-Atlantic you have like the changing of the leaves and like I know it's new England spectacular here yeah I mean summer is it's a swamp here

so it's terrible winter last winter it killed my dog it was so fucking cold you know what I mean like spring is okay but it's rainy it's rainy fall dude is the king of seasons yeah but you get them flowers those pink blossom things right like I give a fuck about those things I'm talking I like I like the fall fall is the king of seasons

all right what do the Thomases do when it's like K-Tooks, get your shoes on. We go and falling right now. We like to go picnicking in D.C. There's actually a ton of places to go. We go to Rock Creek Park where everybody knows the area. We go to gravel. Our favorite is Gravely Point.

That's the thing we love to do. Do the bike riding in D.C. When Fall is out with all the trails around all the monuments and stuff, it is absolutely beautiful and spectacular. And then also, you know, believe it or not, just outside the city, there's actually like Northern Virginia and then even in PG County. there's like a bunch of little farms to go do like take the you know the kids can go play with the goats you can go pumpkin picking all kinds of fun stuff so we're actually pretty lucky fall is well accommodated here you writing off cherry blossoms that quick

did remind me that time you pretended that you don't watch anime. That's the spring. I remember that time on this show. You're like, I never saw an anime movie except for all those other ones I've commented about before. I mean, it's one studio though. It's like I'm a fan of the studio. Less so that they the medium itself is interesting.

Would you allow yourself a pumpkin spice latte this season just to celebrate? Only as a way to buy it and then throw it in someone's face. Yes. That would be a good Is that what you were doing at the No Kings launch on Saturday, Lou? I was biking right by the No King's launch. I was not participating.

Not that I'd be having anything against it per se, but I got shit to do with my family. You're like, whether it's that or Jan 6, I'm busy. I don't care. Listen, I'm all for smearing shit on the walls of the lawmakers, but I just didn't have time this weekend. Take that Pelosi. All right, question two comes from. Oh, I know this guy.

That's Joe Murphy, a man and his cat. Do you believe corners and coaches should be celebrated more for saving their fighters by throwing in the towel? Yes, yes, absolutely. Hell yeah, please. It happens in boxing to such a degree that it's barely even noticed. Yes. Like, you know what I mean? It's just, oh, yeah, the corner chucked the towel, you know,

and that's just part of what it is. And MMA, it's like, oh, did you see that? They actually went ahead and did it. There's like this weird, you know, you can persevere culture. Yeah, they didn't let them die. Wow. Yeah, just bleed indeed. Number three comes from Fahey underscore Liam,

a boy named Liam in these day and age. Who was or is the greatest striker in UFC history with incredible take down defense is it how are we deciding poiton has incredible takedown defense oh i said u s i meant ufc history sorry so they want who is the greatest striker who also has incredible takedown defense the options they gave are poetan aldo izzie edson and sylva also none i hold put put those back up the only one of them that has incredible takedown defense is aldo yes that's the only no i mean poton stuffed all 12 against onk let's not let's not how many would he stuff against quix Formier. That's sort of a more interesting question. You got to throw Chuck Liddell in this

conversation, don't you? He was sort of the original sprawl and brawl type. You can put him on that list. Izzy has very, very, very good takedown defense up along the fence. It's out in open space where it's less good. What are the other names? We'll throw up one more time. One more time. Sorry. Edson Barbosa. He has okay takedown defense, but he can be overwhelmed with volume. And then are we talking about Anderson Silva? I think that's Anderson Silva because I did see von der Le recently go down to a big punch to take down. So Anderson's

takedown defense eventually got very good, but there were long stretches of his career where his takedown defense was not very good. So again, of that list, the only one with proven takedown defense against elite wrestler guys is Aldo. That's the only... Do we not have respect for

Max Holloway here? He's not on that list. He's not on that list, right? Poetan Aldo Izzy Edson Silva of those names yeah yeah yes what do I agree that Holloway has very like amazing takedown defense yes of course of course yeah and by the way an old Jose Aldo kept Marab over on takedowns which is wild which is insane to consider but he did it uh let's go over to flannels in Jits and I did want to make sure we had room for this in the show unfortunately there uh the fine coach of rufus sport uh kickboxing legend in his own right, Duke Rufus passed away. Do you have a favorite moment or memory?

Unfortunately, Luke, I've never interviewed him. I never interacted, but what do you have to say about what the imprint, you know, bringing up so many great fighters, including the Pettus brothers, and you had Paul Feldar speaking about it emotionally on Saturday's broadcast. What do you remember most here about the great Duke Rufus? It's been a really terrible year for people I've known professionally in MMA, B.C. Jordan Breen died, Thomas Jervaisi died, now Duke Rufus. I'm sure others as well. Duke was a lovely man. I mean, maybe, you know, everyone has their own opinions about him,

but I can only speak to the Duke that I knew. I worked with him when I was the ringside reporter at Glory, and he was the commentator initially with Morrow Rinalo, and then eventually BC with Ron Kruk. And we used to go to dinner, and Duke, he was a talker, you know. He talked a lot, and, but dude, it's just so funny. man, one of the few guys who every time I hung out with them, first of all, I asked about your family, but more importantly, would not stop talking about his family and his dogs.

Like, that's just what he loved and lived for was them. And then he, as he told me, Summer in Milwaukee. Summer in Milwaukee was like heaven to him. And, you know, I brought this up. I made a video about it because I actually feel like it's important to say, which is about 10 or 11 years ago, there was a controversy that surrounded him, an amateur fighter at Rufus Now, Duke was not there, but an amateur fighter, Rufus Sport, under a show with that Rufus Sport name. You know, this was kickboxing was not regulated at the time there.

It was same-day weigh-ins, like just all the things that should not happen. And, you know, bad refereeing and a confluence of factors came together. And that amateur kickboxer, excuse me, ended up dying. State never pressed any charges again. Duke was not there. but what ended up happening was that a controversy then followed Duke because some fighters who had trained there previously

had kind of said that he had been running again in their estimation I think one person had called it even abusive but that you know a very hard nose environment that wasn't conducive to success that maybe he was a bit over the top and every fighter agreed with that characterization Danny Downs for example who trained there for a long time

didn't agree to that but I bring us all up to say not to besmirch him but quite the opposite opposite actually, which is number one, even prior to that time, I think his training had gotten better and more humane. But I think that that scandal actually, you know, really, really affected him. And I never heard another word about Duke's Gym to that end ever again from another person. And I'm, you know, maybe there are stories to tell in that way. But like, having taught, I talked to him about that scandal and everything. And it seemed to me that he just, like, he even kind of admitted, like they were, for example, he even said,

said, you know, they used to spar for strength and conditioning. They would, they would spar their way into getting ready for fights. And like, you can just imagine what kind of culture that's going to breed, especially with a hard-nosed coached, you know. But at the same time, the truth about it all was I think it really, really affected him. And he, to me, devoted the rest of his time training to being, you know, tough love, B.C., but the tough and the love. And trying to be a a patriarch in the gym, not in the overbearing way, but as a leadership kind of way. And I'm trying to get the best out of everyone and pushing them, but really understanding that there was a need for humanity even in this crazy sport.

There's a need for humanity even in, you know, the way which you train. And I think he really made some commitments to that towards the end of his life. And I think that's all you can really ever ask of someone. Yes, you don't want them to make mistakes. And you can hold them to account for that. but all of us are going to do something stupid and potentially regrettable or other things in life and what you would hope for is you don't make them but if you do make them that you get the opportunity to live life right afterwards and i absolutely think that he did that i think he was a guy

that at the end of the day really did care and um the last thing i'll say is bc jesus man you just never know how long you've got and we all stress over our work i know you do i know i do maybe we shouldn't you know maybe there's time is too short i know when you're waiting on a decision from someone or you're worried if you made someone upset i mean there's always these things in life that just derail us and and we we fail to look at the bigger picture very often i think that was very well said from a midwestern uh legend there in duke rufus who did a lot to the sport brought a lot of great fighters up hey he even gave us cm punk twice luke so shout out to him in that regard our final question of the dms this week comes from underscore g malick underscore how about that for a

name uh we've seen this before but let's update it luke what's your damn death row meal they also want to hear from no cita so let's find out luke thomas you know i'm gonna pick my my late me ma's thanksgiving meal with the meat pie and the cheap stuff in the in the in the cheap cranberry sauce with with no lumps in it no we don't want any lumps in this house all right you know i'm going yeah you just want straight processed gelatin yeah yeah Yep, I do. Look, where are you going? Probably to some high-priced D.C. restaurant with a drink with a flag coming out of it, maybe? Oh, yeah, the drink with the flag you got right, but the high price, no, not necessarily. I just want a nice steak. It doesn't be super special. I don't need like, oh, A5 Japanese wagyu. I don't give a fork. Just a nice cut of steak with some chibis and some fries, to be honest with you.

All right, I'll take that tortilla. I'll take that meat pie. I mean, throw in a hair pie if you got one, too, right? Dude, your last meal, if they told you it was Arby's steak nuggets, you would still be okay with it. No, give me two beef and chedd, curly fries and the Jamoka Shake, and that's heaven on earth. L.I.L. What does, uh, what do you got here? What is the answer? You can't eat marijuana. You have to eat. Okay. I wasn't going to say marijuana, but I was going to say whatever it is, I want it to be like, laced to shit and just get me so fucking high, like tripping balls. Because if I'm going to, I'm on death row anyway, like I might as well go out. Yeah, the ultimate high. Yeah, so as far as food, though, you guys went more like dinner.

I was thinking more like dessert, something a little indulgent, maybe like a brownie with like a scoop of vanilla ice cream on top of it or something. That's like, that's pretty basic. Yeah, but if it was infused and maybe. This motherfucker's like, yo, my last meal, I want marijuana infused cheesecake fact. Not cheesecake, but a brownie. Yeah, that's what I want. Can I be honest?

I don't like the brownie ice cream combo. I think that's an overrated combo. I also think that's. overrated. I mean, even even something simple and basic, like the apple pie vanilla ice cream combo is kind of basic, even though it's tremendous, but it's, yes, that one I'm a little more on board with, but I always feel like it kind of ruins the, it makes the, it makes the brownie a little cold to eat, which I don't want, you know, it's, I don't know. All right. Honorable mention to my mom's lasagna, beef lasagna, just tremendous too as well. Hopefully I'll die twice

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Say goodbye to sweat stains and hello to long-lasting freshness. Yeah, and maybe hello to getting back in the game, if you know what I'm talking about. Do you? Would you? I'm out of the game, brother. Yeah, yeah. Can you imagine having to date at this age of our lives? The only plus, the only plus I would guess, but maybe some people can tell me if it's wrong, is they got the apps now.

They took away all the areas of where, you know, and maybe that would benefit us even more if we were single dads with a convertible and a bald spot because we had to actually have game. And I'm not saying I had game, but I failed enough to develop the need for game. You don't need game anymore, right? You just need to swipe. I think you need a little bit. I mean, but I, well, I don't know what you need. frankly but I know that the idea at age 46

would be like, oh, told me about your hobbies. I'd rather die. I'd tell you about this hog, right? No, no, no, no. Hey, all right, do you know what I did on Sunday? I scoured the globe for the good, the bad, the high, the globe. Touch yourself inappropriately?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The good, the bad, the ugly, all that stuff going on. In combat sports and beyond, this is your viral video segment that makes people happy at the end of the day, except for 9-11 fans. we'll be none of that 9-11 fans are you talking about al-Qaeda none of that slander anymore

this one's called feces feces I like I like how you frame that as fans of 9-11 like they're really besmirching the good 9-11 name with their jokes about it like yeah not good but a hoo-a for everybody out there

who's shooting okay Shoot one down. Let's go. It's UFC Vancouver time. Look, this is a real thing. Vancouver police are legit investigating the fan who stuck his phone out in front of Brendan Allen during his walkout ahead of the main event, which people are saying that it's a hostage woman, put the lotion in the basket.

Do you believe this? This was weird, dude. This was weird. I don't know what it is. I know Reddit was kind of all over it, but I hope it's nothing. and if I get sent out, because I didn't see this live. Did it really happen? I don't remember.

I didn't watch the walkout, so I can't say. Long Island, look, you've held women against their will in the past. What do you make of this? What I make of it is I don't remember it happening live, but I did see a few people say they went back and it was there. I don't know if they're lying as well, but I don't know, dude. Is it nothing? Is it someone, and also are they holding that person hostage

and trying to draw attention to it, or are they trying to draw attention to the person that they know? that's being held? I have a lot of questions. This sport is so weird that we all just looked at it. We're like, yeah, I can believe it. Okay, what's next? What else you got? You want this or American gladiators? You know what? Okay, great. Speaking of weird refereeing this weekend, how about Jason Herzog got caught looking at the Octagon girls behind, got called out on Twitter, and then liked the tweet. Luke, what do you make of this development?

Sometimes you just got a, you know, officer, you got me. Yeah. Time to take me in. All right. Let's get more crazy here. This week in Oscar Willis. Oscar Willis was previewing all week his return to combat sports under the fight circus banner where he was going to do, among other things, be part of a beer boxing match. But first, he had to enter rehab to prepare.

I fucked up, huh? Yeah, it's pretty bad. You got some rotator cuff tears in here. This is all right? Oh, that one's just great. Yeah, that's good. Hey, what drunks do you have in here? And Luke, to promote it on site, he brought in Gabby Garcia.

Hey, guys, fight circus is officially free tickets, and if you get here before seven, Gabby Garcia will shit on your chest for free. Why weren't we there? If you're wondering for the payoff, here's a little bit of, of it uh we got to bend it not not the cleveland steamer we got to bend the bane davis run in and it got a little bit wild look i don't know how to describe what's happening so why don't you do it please um that's a circus yeah i mean this is well apt this is a part of the fight game they just lean into the circus part yeah yeah and uh mike fowler was the first one to put

the cheetah hair uh or the leopard hair whatever it is um yeah it's fun i mean i'm an old you know piece of shit, but those are fun things. All right. Speaking of Cleveland steamers, Luke, they got these new couples challenges. You into this, you see it on TikTok, then you and your wife try to perform it. Let's watch one. All right, you ready? Yeah, but be careful.

Come on, I might ask me, you know I can do it. But be careful. Don't let on my chest. Don't let in my chest. All right? Yeah. I mean, these people, I mean, these people, how do they live after this? This is not a thing I could do.

You said you have been part of a few Dutch ovens. You have said that you have been beyond the... Typically, you know, when everyone else is sleeping, you know what I mean? Where I'm just, you know? All right, what do you think about this couple's challenge instead? Let's get away from Flatulins. Challenge one. Ready?

Oh, my God. That's fucking bonn. Luke, tell me about your show. Well, I have this partner. He's from a small town in Connecticut full of dirt bags. And we watch videos where he shows us men farting in their faces of their significant others. And then jokes about 9-11. I know, that did not happen.

Please, sell ads on this show. We're waiting for it. RIP Dale, Sr. You ever wonder how to ruin a first date, Luke? I am so sorry. That is so gross. That is so embarrassing. I am so sorry about that.

Don't worry about it. I have a three-year-old son. I have seen. Ew, you have kids. You know, it was going great until she said that right yeah it seemed to be he seemed to be going well yeah there it is all right hey polly malanaji 44 years old now back into the ring on saturday in england and won a bare knuckle fight but look at the before and after so you want to

be a bare knuckle fighter luke good lord he won the fight bro it looks like he's wearing loki's helmet uh with the horns through the amount of injuries he took in winning this fight are so extreme that let's hear from him to tell you about them you know what's up everybody i just want to give everybody a big thanks for all your well wishes i'm fine i'm still in lee's general hospital this is crazy by the way i don't know how it works in the ukk i still have not been stitched up it's it's it's 4 30 in the morning i got here 10 o'clock still have not been stitched up guys they x-rayed me didn't give me the results of my hands I gave me a cat scan.

I've got broken ribs in the back from all the rabbit punches, another rat punch of the kidney punches. I have my, the kid broke my ribs with the kidney punches, my lower rib on my left side. And I have some, my eyes are too foggy still. When they put the light, the really bright light, it's too foggy for them to tell the extent of the damage. They're hoping that it's just, you know, poke and that's it. It's too foggy, which means that there's bleeding back there. So they have to check for a retina tear. And until that clears up, they can't really make a judgment on whether I have a torn retina or not.

I pray to him, obviously, I pray to God that I don't have a torn retina. God, I mean, look, he would continue and there were even more injuries. His hands are ballooned. And he won kind of dominantly in that little trigon triangle ring. This is why, I have to say, I know BKFC can promote, they can promote. And they get people that we like what. watch fighting. But I really don't like bare knuckle. It's sort of like next level gnarly for the sake of it. You know what I mean? Dude, it's weird. I never thought that the cuts in MMA on people's

faces, even from elbows or punches, would look surgical compared to the cuts in in bare knuckle where it looks like someone just took their fingers and ripped it apart. You know what I mean? It's grody. You get you get you let you wear those scars for life, you know? Oh yeah. You're different after that. Mm-hmm. Good Lord. All right. Let's hit this week in sound bloopers. It's time for the weather report. Great time to go out the door right now and take a dump, or take a tip. Go, go, go, go, no.

And take a jump. All right. Take a dumps where, guys. Sure, this is a Joseph A. Banked. Yes. It's like, wait. Why are you going outside? Just go to the menswear store. They've got you covered. All right, let's go to the NFL broadcast. Clean up the field after this.

knock on him. That was what he did the best, but he can do it all. He's been coming all over the field. He's got to catch over 40 yards in all three games this season, and he's getting it done right now for this office. And with a new quarterback. So, Gino had some success. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not Peter North. I can't do that. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Danny Swift Garcia had that retirement party I referenced in Brooklyn on Saturday. Here is the call. Me, Chris Algeri, and Ock Reyes, as he took out the overmatch Daniel Gonzalez in round four. I mean look obviously oh hold that thought down goes Gonzales in round four he's done he is done he rolled his that he broke his ankle too his angle he rolled his

angle he rolled his ankle farewell to Brooklyn an explosive knockout finish for Danny Swift Garcia something tells me this is the last not the last time we're gonna see that he got to saw that coming well sir why are you yelling there's no one there okay that's great uh and here's the pick of the all-star it was nice of danny to hold a fight in the middle of barns and noble yeah yeah i have to say it was a fun time getting work with these great gentlemen that's ock on the left uh curran botia who did the ring announcing andre burdo teo femo lopez junior chris el jerry uh shout out to everybody there swift promotions it was a fun night at the office i did appreciate the opportunity there

and goodbye to our to dsg lucy you know those guys whether it's emma or boxing when you when their star rise aligns with you entering the business and then now they're the old guy and they're retiring, you feel like it's a part of you that's retiring, you know what I'm saying? You know, Rod Salka can breathe easy tonight, you know what I'm saying? That is true. That is very true. All right, speaking of the NFL, Luke, reason number 576,

why you shouldn't intend an NFL game or bring your family? This is a Washington commander's version of this reason. Yeah, I mean, why would you go? I mean, this is, you know, hey, do you want to, do you want to, Do you want a chili dog with those? Look at John Riggins here at 44. Look, that's why they call them the nosebleed seats, right? Yeah, well, I thought Riggins was retired, but no, no, he just moved to the nosebleeds.

He's out there just beating up on old dudes. Yeah, those are your people, Luke. Those are your citizens. No, these are Dundalk's finest. Are you kidding me? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. This is St. Mary's County's, you know, duly elected there.

Do you remember last week we showed. that picture of Lana's party and like it was backwards and it made it look like there was something else going on in that room Luke well Lana got married check out this proposal oh you know will you or won't you do angle sorry Luke I had a red you know Reggie Jackson moment right there uh thank you Lana we appreciate that so does your new husband all right Luke existential question of the week time if a man has no arms and he has a gun in his pocket is that man armed or unarmed look this seems like a

good debate topic at william and mary in the late 90s where do you go with that he would be armed all right all right i mean it's a hot dog a sandwich i don't know uh it's time for mhm fighters in the wild dude check out this the best relationship in all of combat sports Pereira, who gifted his great coach Glover Toshara with a motorcycle two years ago, now bought him a brand new pickup truck. Luke, I love these two. This is great. Yes, yes. But if I may, it's like, yo, I bought you something that depreciates and value the instant I drive it off the lot. Just like give him the money. Okay. Okay. No, thank you for the gift, but I'm selling it instantly.

Yeah, just give him the money. All right. I just, I mean, I mean, look, we don't talk about Glover as a coach enough. What, I mean, that what a ride those two have had together. It's not surprising. He was well-rounded. He was good. He's like a great, it seems like, not surprised by his coaching success. Yeah.

All right. Henry Sohudo was surprised when he found out that he was on a live stream while talking to Rampage Jackson. Look at that ass right in front of you. Huh? In front of you, like behind you? Yeah. And to decide that she's got a, let me see. I got to see it though

Oh yeah Oh my God, yeah Oh, that one I got to tell you, you didn't know I'm live streaming? No What the fuck, man? We lied. I thought you knew.

We've been live the whole time. Really? Yeah! I'm a streamer now. I'm not a fighter no more. Luke, while I don't necessarily Do you say fart box? That's what I was going to end up with.

don't agree with the Jackson family's live streaming of everything, but did that man just call that assafar box because I'm not sure, Luke? Um, yeah, not much about what just happened there is entirely surprising. All right. Well, let's see another MMA fighter in the wild. Here's Yeri Prohatska at his own birthday party. Oh, it was all first, sorry, first he's outside with his friends, blowing fire, Luke. You like that? I suppose. All right. And then it was his birthday party. He was hanging out with the Shmo and Helen Yee, they gave him a cupcake with a candle. Luke, he ate the candle.

Does he know you don't have to do that? I think he just likes fire in his mouth. I don't really understand it. But speaking of Yeri, let's get an update on Prague's incredible history and their golden statues. The dog on this statue is so loved. everyone's touching it and it's starting to turn gold how wholesome is that you can even see a similar wear pattern on this statue in budapest where people rub the knee for good luck i was wondering where that was going uh luke we grew up in a time where people didn't talk about

other people nicely we were allowed to just joker out things that today would get you canceled and now i'm happy that you know facebook wasn't a around in the late 90s and you know but some people though they're bold enough to say they'd never change one of those people is snooped off do you look back at some of your old lyrics given the climate of what's happening today with women's empowerment and be like damn that was kind of fucked up that I know no pale no that was me I love every motherfucker fucking man fuck them holes man stop man no say okay okay BC are we having problems at home here bud no I'm just giving you the videos that people are talking about okay that is something with these guys

guys abusing their spouses and it has gone on to now the verbal component in addition to the signage backwards that also kind of indicated dominion you having some problems at home there bud no no it's not dominion Luke but uh it is flatulent i'll tell you that much all right Halloween cizin is heating up Luke uh this might be the costume of the year for you to show up at a kid's party tame that snake right charm it come on right I don't know about a kids party but certainly the bus stop usually gets a few looks you know what i'm all right well your lawn is already scary enough because you refuse to mow it why don't you put this guy out or rake it i don't rake it or rake it why don't you put this guy out front oh boy okay okay uh we do have video of luke

would be like luke look why are you dressed like a clown yeah look i don't i hope you don't mind me showing this luke sent me a video of him and his family painting pumpkins this week for Halloween. Let's check in what they did. That was Mrs. That's Tewke's Pumpkin. That's wonderful. A little violent, but that's okay. That's, that's, that's, that's Abuelas and here's, here's Luke's. Yeah.

Okay. All right. That's, uh, it's a little much, but you know, with children around. All right. Hey, you know, you once asked me if I ever, if how long I knew Chuck Windenhall and if I'd ever seen him with hair. And the answer is no, because of that hat. But we did get an artist to render what Chuck would look like with hair.

Luke, let's see. He's got an Edgar. Wow, that does change the way I look at him, Luke, to be fair. You know what I mean? That is something right there. Okay. All right, let's time to play. Would you eat?

Luke, they call this. This is for Italians only. A canoli dog. Would you eat this? Yeah, I'd eat that. I'd go for that. You? I hope all these people get shot by a drive-by shooter.

You wouldn't try a canoly dog? No. Okay. All right. I hope all of them die. A favorite of dyslexic kids for lunchtime. They call this a dot hog. Would you try this?

Would you eat this? No. Once again, the person who prepared this, I would cut their hand off like it's the code of Hammel Robbie. All right. Well, Luke, I've discovered a new 7-Eleven hack. Also, mixing the ketchup and the mustard together is the work of an amateur. This does this be very clear about that. don't prefer it, but I like ketchup and mayo together.

Pink sauce. Yeah. Also, Luke, check out this 7-Eleven hack. We won't play the volume, but check out what this guy's doing. Would you do it? So you take the hot dog bun, you put the nacho cheese on it. All right. Is he going to fart on it or something?

No, no. You go over to the rollers, right? You get one of them like chicken, buffalo chicken covered things, right? You know? Okay. Is he going to fart on it now? then you get over and you get that chipotle sauce you got to know where it is though behind yeah there there there's got to reach around Luke you've done that okay okay and then and then

what part does he cry for help no he doesn't and then and then you put the chili on top of it Luke they call it the Joseph A okay because that's where it's going to send you would you eat this 7-11 heck dude I just got to be honest if you're eating like this at a 7-Eleven you're probably very sad inside i mean god yeah i mean i have i have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease happiness doesn't take you there look all right um hey we did find long island luke's last meal request it's called the pizza bong would you eat luke let's see what the fuck are these idiots fucking making well it's it's a pizza bong that's what they're making luke yes is the answer

grated cheese there and you and it works too it's functionalable oh my god and then you got a nice snack for the ride home preferably if you're not driving right let's watch i mean you know this ape is going to be driving let's just take a big bite of that there ron mexico there you go guys like the cake lady just eating remember pizza the hut from space balls you know yes that's what long outlook you're into that you're going to make one or what i'd hit it okay all right Hey. Also, Luke, what do you think about the great debate of pineapple pizza? To me, it's pineapple and meatball is the best two topics you can combine on pizza, but I'm weird. It's fine. I'll let it slide.

Okay, let's see if you let this version of it slide. Why do people get so unhappy with pineapple on their pizza? In my opinion, pineapple just tastes so much better. Where is a home invader when you need one? Has Anthony Smith that question, Luke? All right. Hey, never take a charge against another player who can dunk. You've got to learn that early in your basketball career because this happens.

I mean, you don't actually have to open your mouth. Our final warning to you to close this week. species is also never take a carriage horse ride in New York City during the holidays. You want to know why, Luke? This is why. Oh my God. Oh, what the

It's on my face. Oh my. Okay. You do realize that's AI, yes? Yeah. Yeah. I just thought it. I just thought it fit the theme of this program perfectly. Okay. I mean, I would like to defecate on those women as well in that particular way, but that is a. All right. Well, our

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Who's fighting this week in the trivia contest? I like to save that for Friday, you know, no spoilers. Okay. All right. All right. Well, it won't be Luke Thomas after Danny Segerha. Yeah, spoiler alert there. All right.

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