MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Vegas 105 Recap, Volk’s Return, Riyadh Season Dominance Ending?
Episode Date: April 7, 2025Top of the week MK is here, and we’ve got a loaded show. The fellas discuss this past weekend’s UFC Vegas 105 results, including Lerone Murphy’s uninspiring decision and Torrez Finne...y’s split-decision win. They also look ahead to the biggest storylines with UFC 314. On the boxing end, Teofimo Lopez and Shakur Stevenson’s comments against Turki Alalshikh have us wondering whether we’re seeing an end to boxing’s reliance upon Riyadh Season. We’ll also discuss Tim Tszyu’s big return and a Boots-Stanionis unification.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Super fired up. Yesterday was a great day. O, Vetchkin broke the record, which was amazing.
He did it in Long Island, which, you know, sorry, Long Island.
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like a comic con, like not rip off, but you know, they can't
call it comic con. It's like, it's called awesome con. And saw
a lot of nerds in their costumes yesterday. But BC if I may say
something, these were amazing costumes. Also, I gotta tell you,
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Did you know this? No, I'm 46 years old. Okay, there were lightsabers on sale yesterday. I'm not kidding. Well, in excess of a thousand dollars. Well in excess. Anyway, it was a great time.
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They did. There were people doing, they had Iron Man masks, there were people selling web shooters. And also, BC, last thing, if I may, last thing. I get asked all the time. Hey, Luke, I'm visiting the nation's capital. What's a good place to eat brother?
I've said this before.
I will say it again.
Cause I went back yesterday.
Cause it's actually right close to the convention center
where the, where awesome con was.
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So much material.
You know, it's great. It's actually right by the convention center. It's called uncon a real thing that they're talking about. I got so much material. You know what I mean?
It's great.
No, it's actually right by the convention center.
It's called unconventional diner.
And I brought it up before because they've got an amazing burger.
I went back yesterday, BC.
They had a tres leches strawberry shortcake.
Might have been the best piece of cake I've ever had in my entire fucking life.
Unconventional diner.
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And now is the time where we hear from the man who came to us directly from an Aussie's ball bag.
It's the main card minutes. Luke, no seat.
Hey, hey, what's up, guys?
UFC Vegas 105. Not my favorite card.
Did you did you do the whole card again?
Now, I just did the main card, but even the main card was bad.
I mean, we started off with the Terez Fini fight.
It only went, you know, oh, we'll be talking about it.
That Terez Fini fight is one of the legit worst UFC fights I've seen in.
I don't know how long. I agree. It was bad.
All right. There you go. So buckle up, get ready.
You're going to get a lot of great analysis from these guys right here.
And I think the show starts right about now.
Let's go topic number one.
UFC Apex was back,
Lerone Murphy played it safe in the main event,
improving to 16-0-1 overall
as the featherweight contender scored what the internet
called a very uninspiring five round unanimous decision win
over Josh Emmett, three rounds to two on two scorecards,
four rounds to one on the third.
So Luke, let's put it out there.
Considering Murphy was legitimately booed
during his post fight interview,
while exiting the cage and roundly accosted on Twitter slash X,
does Murphy actually deserve
the vitriol he had received here?
Or should you in your opinion, there be more room in elite mixed martial arts
for efficient point fighting, regardless of entertainment value,
maybe even under the old mindset of Floyd Mayweather hit and not get hit.
Does the MMA community have a right to drop a doogie all over
Laron's efficient and
winning performance on Saturday?
Um,
okay.
This is, this is a tough one.
Let me, I don't want to get up here and I'm not going to, I'm not going to get
up here today and be like, Oh, if you didn't like that fight, you know, you've
got terrible taste in MMA. I'm not, I'm not going to get up here today and be like, oh, if you didn't like that fight, you know, you've got terrible taste in MMA. I'm not I'm not going to make that argument. Or if you didn't
like this fight, you know, something's wrong with you. That's really not at all my point. I don't
think that's quite true even a little bit. Now, that is not me saying that I hated this fight. In
fact, I did not. I thought it was fine. I thought it was fine. What I would say too, on top of that, in addition to the fight being fine,
was that Lerone Murphy is obviously incredibly skilled.
He has outrageously good footwork.
He is defensively quite sound.
It certainly wasn't this fight.
It was a very defensively sound performance
and undefeated, good athlete, fantastic cardio.
He's kind of on the back foot for basically the majority of
the fight and was able to move as well in the fifth as he
did in the first.
Something I'd like to point out too.
You'll note that Lerone Murphy went the distance with Josh
Emmett.
So did Ilya Toporia.
Now Ilya Toporia landed 152 significant strikes and recorded
three takedowns and one knockdown.
Lerone Murphy didn't do that. However, Emmett landed 87 significant strikes and recorded three takedowns and one knockdown. Lerone Murphy didn't do that.
However, Emmett landed 87 significant strikes against
Ilya Toporya.
He landed just 41 against Lerone Murphy.
I'm not telling you he did better against Lerone Murphy.
Excuse me that Lerone Murphy did better against him than
Ilya.
He got hit a little bit less, but of course he did a lot
less on the offensive end.
And I think to me, BC,
that's actually where the conversation is.
There's nothing by itself really wrong
with what Lerone Murphy did.
It's not like you can look at this fight and be like,
man, he didn't step on the gas in a way that he could have,
or he didn't live up to his potential.
I mean, or some other kind of way where you can describe
that Lerone Murphy in a
way in which we understand him better, didn't perform up to his capabilities. But what we can
say, and I think what the fans are feeling is one, and I know we'll talk about it, the Torres-Finney
fight on this card was an absolute disaster, just a disaster of the highest order. The Koeman was,
again, not a disaster, but not thrilling. The Pat the Pat Sabatini retool fight was not super thrilling and and so that's part of it
but the bigger issue to me is two problems are happening. One you're
getting some talent that is just not really all that capable of doing certain
things that's not necessarily the case here in the main event but there's this
accumulative feeling that we're not getting the case here in the main event, but there's this accumulative feeling
that we're not getting the same kind of action
that we have been accustomed to over time.
And I think the bigger problem, BC,
is that MMA appears to be as filled
as I've ever seen it at the elite level,
which to be clear,
Lerone Murphy is at, he's an elite fighter,
of guys who are round managers who
don't appear to have very good finishing ability or instincts. And when you kind of add up
all of this together, Lerone Murphy was, you know, I'm not going to say the straw that
broke the camel's back because Finney got booed several fights before that. But BC,
there is a bigger story involved and I know sometimes
like we don't want to start the show on a negative note. Again, I thought Murphy fought
well. I think he is a talented guy. But the broader set of circumstances to which he is
partly a contributor, I think is wearing a little bit thin on people.
I agree. It's more than one thing because all I heard about, I fell asleep right before
the main event,
to be fully honest with you,
and ended up finally watching it this morning.
But I had read so much vitriol that I assumed he avoided contact altogether,
you know, just had fought one of the purposely worst fights you'd ever seen.
I'm not going to come back and say it wasn't fully that case,
but you know what I took away from the performance?
I'm really impressed.
Murphy has elite skills, his cardio, his takedown defense,
his defense in the pocket as Emmett is throwing bombs.
Like I said off the top, his ability to hit
and not get hit is truly elite,
but it's sports and entertainment at the same time.
So I understand people not wanting him in a main event.
I understand people rightfully saying he's probably going to have to win
a ridiculous like the the John Fitch story.
He's probably going to have to just win and win and win and win no matter what
and hope for the seas to part at the right time for a title shot to come.
But I do think there is room in all sports for different styles.
Even if those styles are not TV friendly, I think that there's some
element of misdirected hostility here from the Torres Finney fight.
From the fact that after Mexico city was rocking, we're back in the
apex, you put this guy in the main event.
It wasn't a deep card.
Not only are we complaining
about the overall watered down effective UFC at the highest level, but it feels like the
fans are finally bubbling up and joining us in that because they're the ones that are
actually paying. They're not getting to expense the pay reviews, although they're probably
stealing them most of the time anyway, but that's neither here nor there as one DC native
likes to say. So will this hurt Murphy's long-term progress? Yes, but not everybody has to fight
Dana White Contender Series Factory style and drop their guard and bleed for everybody. So it was
kind of like wrong place, wrong time for Murphy, yet I exited that being like, damn, he's going to
be hard to beat at the elite level.
I kind of want to see that style against some of the better fighters in this division.
But I fully understand if the UFC watches that, if the matchmakers go,
oh crap, we probably shouldn't give a guy this platform again.
That's the game we're in right now.
It is entertainment at the end of the day.
And Luke, I never expected him to get booed mercifully
during that post fight interview.
I didn't even expect this piece of content
that John Morgan shot cage side, excuse me,
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five rounds, you ran away.
And I don't think he ran away.
He was in the pocket.
He was just slipping shots and did the whole hit and not get hit thing.
So you know, both, both sides of the argument are correct in this case.
He was boring as F in the larger scheme. It will affect him in the long run.
But he also apparently climbed another notch in the rankings. And Luke, I mean, true or false?
It's going to be hard for the elites to overcome this guy.
Dude, John Fitch used to be a guy who you were like, not that there's one of him, but
there's just not many of him. He was kind of like, I'll just say
this, there's just a bunch of john fitches. Now, there's just
a bunch. There's a bunch of guys who are very, very skilled.
By the way, I like John, he's a good fighter. But what I mean by
that is, or he was a good fighter anyway. But what I mean
by that is this like, you know,
very, very labor intensive kind of singular way of fighting
that is hard to pull off and you have to beat good guys
all the way around.
But A, to the point you raise very difficult
to get a title shot off of that.
I mean, Lerone Murphy just beat a very good fighter,
but he did it in a way that is just simply not going
to move the needle, I think for his interest.
And this is at a time when featherweight is very, very hot,
meaning there's gonna be a lot of other pieces moving.
And I think a lot of other people are gonna get
title fights ahead of him,
even if maybe they're not necessarily as deserving.
Well, I guess we'll have to see how that all goes.
But it's just a really weird time.
And I was talking with somebody on social media about this,
and they also added this point too.
It's like this other part to Lerone Murphy where now maybe BC were feeling this because
we're across the pond. But there's just a lot of guys who like don't do interviews
who don't do a lot of media. You see them show up on the apex or some kind of main
card. And again, dude, the role Murphy is very, very good. I just think it's silly
to try and argue anything other than that. If you didn't like his fight, fine.
If it's not interesting to you, fine.
But I don't want to hear anything about he's not good.
He's very good, but he's good quietly in a non finishing kind of way.
And then doesn't do a lot of media.
It's like, dude, I don't know what like, that's not really
serving their interest very much.
It's certainly not serving UFC's interest.
And that sort of question, if it's serving the fans interest more broadly,
I don't know what the answer is. I don't want guys to get out there and just say things for the for the effect of it. But
I, it, something's missing. Something's missing a little bit here. And I again,
dude, I know, I know what the fan all here, these guys complaining again,
what the fans really feel differently after Saturday?
I mean, it's one card. It's not the entire roster, but I don't know. I felt like a few things that
have been in the pipeline, some kind of problems that have been things that we've identified or
otherwise are noticeable kind of came to a head on this, on this card. Right. And I always say
in all sports, there's many different ways to do it.
I've I cover high school basketball for years.
I remember this one team that had no player above six feet tall was playing
another state powerhouse with a six, seven center in the tournament.
And they held the ball in a pre-shot clock era.
They held the ball and they won the game by one point.
And it was a brilliant strategy to do that.
But you don't want that in the main event during a time when
the apathy is growing right there.
And we have a meme to show in three parts.
This is basically what the fans really believe, Luke.
It seems a little bit blurry.
Is that Lerone Murphy?
Let me check my glasses here and find out.
Next one.
Oh yeah, it was.
It looked a lot like Leon Edwards though, Luke, right?
I mean, that's that's unfortunately the lot that
that Murphy's being thrown into because the apathy for
Edwards at this point is not as high as well.
But we the fans had their opinion.
We had our opinion.
But it may be time for shots fired brought to you by
Cuervo, to
hear Lerone Murphy's opinion.
Now, look, if we can begin with the tweet from Murphy.
He says, clinic, real MMA fans will appreciate the technicality of that fight.
That's fight IQ, punishing elbows in close,
body kicks, neat footwork, had him hurt a few times.
Why would I stay in the pocket with a power puncher,
float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, baby?
And we also have sound from Murphy to add onto this.
Let's listen in.
Yes, people feeling great after the fight,
took no damage, master class, broken down, stuck to the game plan.
Didn't get involved in any scrappy, scrappy stuff and he couldn't hit me.
Luke, it was technical.
It was no thriller.
Can't put those two words together.
But in your opinion, does Murphy have a point here?
He does have a point.
Yes.
I mean, it's not a question of excitement.
I think that one folks are more than I mean, let me not a question of excitement. I think that one folks are more than,
I mean, let me just ask the question here
because I do think it's important to listen,
upcoming next week or this coming weekend,
we have UFC 314, right?
I mean, just an excellent card,
no matter which way you wanna look at it,
not just on the main card,
but in particular that main card.
It's very, very easy to understand how a promotion could be like like hey it's going to be worth taking time out of your schedule to make
this a night for us. To you know to to dedicatedly say like on that Saturday night we're watching UFC
and I'm pushing anything else I might want to do to the side because look at what it's offering me.
How on earth do you make that argument for a card like that? Now again, it's not nearly the same argument
in terms of like the prestige or the value or the importance, but time away from doing other things
to watch it. What is the argument there? And I simply don't even know what that could possibly
be. I don't quite get it. So when Lerone Murphy says what he did was impressive, he's right.
When he says float like a butterfly, hit and not get hit. All of these things, these core tenants of what fight sports are kind of about to be
honest with you.
I agree.
But here's the part that he's missing BC.
Here's the part that he's missing.
There was an interview sometime in the 2010s.
I'd have to go find it.
I remember it because it was a big deal at the time that the Atlantic magazine had spoken
to both Dana White and then also Lorenzo Fertitta. And we've talked about the way Lorenzo describes something, but when he was trying to explain
why UFC was so exciting to people, his argument was it's full of oh shit moments. These moments
where something happens and you're like, oh my God, did you see that? You're looking around.
This is like crazy kind of an event. And it it's like you just went 25 minutes and you
didn't even get close to one of those. Now again you don't have to every time but if
there's bigger issues and then in particular the one I'm kind of identifying which is you
got a lot of good fighters now who don't have big media profiles and are not aggressive
finishers are we getting enough of the oh shit moments as an entertainment quotient?
I leave that question to the fans, but it's certainly something I'm wondering.
That's a very, very fair point.
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I think you make a lot of great points there, Luke, preview. I think you make there Luke regarding that
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into a first and interim title shot and then the full championship opportunity.
He wants to follow that same path.
Is Ortega the right call out in this spot and how high do you believe before we get
Zuck in the AI rankers in here, will Murphy move up or should deserve to move up in these
featherweight rankings?
All right, so he beat a number eight guy. I could see him taking that spot, but I mean,
you know, Al Jemaine Sterling is sitting at nine and I understand that, you know, he's coming off of that Mozart loss and so, you know, your position is going to be somewhat affected by it, but I would
still rate him a little bit more highly in terms of upside,
believe it or not.
Uh, at 145, at least in terms of who I think he could be at the best end.
Yeah.
I mean, I think, I think taking Emmett's spot is probably fine, but you know,
you mentioned Ortega at six.
I don't know if Ortega is going to want that.
You also have Arnold Allen sitting at seven and then all real quick Ortega
is threatening to move up and wait constantly.
Yeah. There's also that obviously as well. I mean, there's, there's a bunch of factors kind of involved here. Arnold Allen sitting at seven and then all real quick or take us threatening to move up and wait constantly.
Yeah. There's also that obviously as well.
I mean, there's, there's a bunch of factors kind of involved here.
Now again, pit bull is going to get added to the mix.
He's not in the rankings currently.
We'll see what happens after this next weekend and the like.
So it's not like enemy.
I mean, this is going to sound like we're just beating up on the
Rome Murphy for the fuck of it.
And we're not, he turned in a very commendable performance not just because he beat
a good guy but because he beat a good guy who barely touched him in over the course of 25
minutes that's extremely difficult and very very impressive to do but it's the kind of question you
always have to ask yourself it's like a politician winning an election do they win it by a little
bit or do they win it by a landslide and And the bigger that you win, it gives you a mandate to do more with it.
This one is valuable, but I don't think it's kind of like rocket charging him up
the rankings or to the like rocket charging him into some kind of future
big fight.
It could but I wouldn't bet on it right away.
Yeah, I wouldn't hate if he fought Arnold Allen in the UK to actually give
the fans what they want. But Luke, did you want to address there's there's heavy rumors overnight on Twitter,
not necessarily from a huge, reputable account, but that Aaron Pico could be entering this
featherweight division, the former Bellator, huge prospect. And then, you know, after a couple
collapses did bring it back around. And there's rumors he could be in a fight night main event against Movstar Evo which is interesting politics unto itself but uh Lerone Murphy versus Pico or
is that promotional malpractice? I mean Pico is fighting another guy one of these guys we just
talked about very good highly okayly okay, so the rumor is
that he's fighting Mozart, which by the way, I didn't see bigger
reputable accounts back up yet, which doesn't mean it's not
true. But we kind of have a wait and see approach with it. But
here he is, they've got to match up against Mozart, who is you
know, another one of these john Fitch types that, you know,
they don't have great finishing instincts or ability, but they're
very, very tough. And they're hard outs for everyone and they're very, very skilled.
I think Lerone, I'm not sure what the right answer is, to be honest with you, because
his whole game is predicated on neutralizing.
You asked me on Friday, like what stands out about his game.
And I think you saw a lot of it there.
It's just a lot of blendedness where, you know,
he didn't go for takedowns a whole lot,
or I don't think hardly at all in this fight.
It was more about sticking and moving,
working behind the jab and footwork.
But you know, when he needs to,
everything kind of gets mixed in together.
But the real common denominator is the sort of
neutralization.
And I don't know who the right matchup is
to get him out of that instinct. I don't know who the right matchup is to get him out of that instinct.
I don't know exactly what that would be.
So I think an incremental improvement or an incremental adjustment to his next dance partner
is probably the right idea.
But BC, this is the problem.
You bring in Pitbull and you can start thinking of like, oh, I got all these matchups in my
head that'd be great.
Or conversely, you just mentioned they might bring in pitbull and you can start thinking of like, Oh, I got all these matchups on my head. That'd be great.
Or conversely, you just mentioned they might bring in Pico, right?
All these matchups in my head.
I mean, I could think of a thousand matchups that'll be like, that one's good.
That one's good.
And not just a 45, 55 potentially as well.
But with Murphy, it's like, does he deserve a quality guy?
Yeah, he deserves a quality opponent.
He's a quality opponent who just scored a very quality guy. Yeah, he deserves a quality opponent. He's a quality opponent
who just scored a very quality win. But can I think of a thousand different matchups that
I would want to see him in? No, I think I'd be, I think I'd be lying if I said that.
Yeah. He doesn't deserve another main event. I mean, that's a big part of this. He got
his closeup opportunity. He survived in advance, but that will cost him in the end. I just
wonder, you know, you made a, you made a broader statement off the top of this segment
that there are a lot of fighters these days
who are fighting a quote unquote boring style
to the fans who are tuning in, putting their bets down,
and they just bleed, baby, right?
Just bleed, honey.
Do you think there will ever be a correction
or adjustment to the rules?
I guess I want to say similar to the NBA,
where in the early 2000s,
the lockdown of defense was bringing scoring down so much
that the NBA responded by opening up the lane,
further removing the hand check,
putting defensive three seconds into it
and look at the wide open offensive game we have now.
Do you ever see any type of a correction attempt
by the UFC to counteract this
or is it cyclical in terms of who's on top and what styles of fighting are most
preferred?
I don't, I, I am a little bit more pessimistic about this. Now, when I,
when I say that BC, what I mean is I agree with the broader way in which you
framed it, which is there, some of this just will be cyclical.
I think that is true at the same time. I don't think it's like the NBA.
Dude, I mean, you know, basketball to a degree,
to a degree BC has been solved, right?
Where, you know, the teams just kind of know that,
you know, shooting as many threes as possible
is kind of the idea and there's various ways to set that up.
And if you have to go to the post, there's various ways to set that up. And if you have to go to the post,
there's various ways to set that up.
But, you know, they kind of all play a similar way
of basketball, like there's not a lot of team identity
a whole lot anymore.
There's some of that, but you know,
you get the idea relative to, you know,
the triangle offense and how like unique that was
to the players who implemented that under Phil Jackson.
So that's kind of, I don't think we're there,
but I guess the point I was trying to make is you're getting
just a lot of these athletes who are very good at extending
the life of a fight and not getting close to the finish,
but never letting their opponent really get all that close
to them in terms of their chances of victory. But the bigger
issue is not that BC the bigger issue to me is I mean consider
right. I might I might have this wrong long. I don't look.
Are you an American football Island Luke, are you
an American football fan? Are you a Jets or a Giants guy?
I side with the Jets, but I truly don't really care about football. I'm just going to be
honest.
He's like hockey, gambling and bongs.
Yeah, I mean, he's an MMA fan. Like, do you like other sports? Like, not really. You know,
that's an MMA fan's answer. But my understanding is they moved kickoff to the 35 yard line for
next season BC they've been playing with that for years they moved it I think 25
to 30 and then out 30 to 35 and you know they've changed how are you where you
can start and everything but point I'm trying to make is the NFL the way in
which it is organized allows them to more nimbly make adjustments to rules or tweaks that they feel
like are important to preserve the integrity of the product, particularly as they get new
information about player safety, team tactics, you know, will there be a tush push going
forward, all kinds of stuff, but they have the ability to kind of address this. Well,
dude, you're talking 50 different state athletic commissions and yeah, you could fix New Jersey, California, Nevada, Texas and Florida and that would be a lot of it,
but that still would take you when you go back to Arizona, you're fucked.
International organizations or territories, you're messed up. This ability to define what the rules
are, they've vested that power to these vast balkanized world of government agencies.
That's a lot of work to get that fixed even if you can do it at all.
And no, I guess I don't have a lot of faith in that. I agree with you and I think it also could really
if you go too far in trying to do that,
I mean you could you could do soft changes of having referees stand them up even faster than before,
but I think you're you're gonna mess with it in a lot of ways.
And I didn't know if you said tush push in light of that viral Terrence Howard
clip going around Luke, no?
Are you not aware of what the tush push is?
I am, I'm just also aware of comedy.
Sorry, sir, I'll continue.
Hey, look, to close on this topic, what did this performance say about 40 year old
Josh Emmett?
He had the five round stamina.
He tried hard.
He got dropped to a knee around five when he was doing the point down.
He seemed frustrated at Murphy's elusiveness.
Is he, could he have one more run?
Like, or is this sort of gatekeeper role moving forward?
He didn't look physically shot to me.
I don't know how you felt about it.
He looked like physically fine, but it's like BC you brought it up on Friday.
He doesn't game plan.
That was one problem that looks like, or just, you know,
I mean, how are you gonna beat the best guys in the world
without a game plan?
I honestly don't know.
I really don't know the answer to that.
And the second part is BC, he doesn't faint.
He doesn't faint hardly at all.
He was just trying to like intercept Murphy
or catch him with like timing or something,
which you know, fine, some of that is okay. You know, you can
you can get away with it. But like, look at the results. Look
at the results. It's like, dude, like, I don't know how many
times, you know, what makes the best fighter? What like it's a
big question. Right? Luke steroids, steroids. You know, if
you ask Craig Jones, autism would probably play a role as
well. Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. No, no, I'm just doing a Craig Jones bit, but I'm just, wow, someone just like lost side of comedy there.
All right.
Well, you led me there with your no-diddy block, all right.
I never even heard of the thing you're mentioning, so I don't even know what that is.
But in all seriousness, it can be a combination of athleticism, the right mindset,
a certain degree of hunger and tolerance and chin and like all these factors
that that that that go into it. And I don't know, I think in the
case of Josh Emmett, he still got a lot of the physical tools.
And I don't think he's a dumb guy by any stretch of the
imagination. And we know from talking to him, he's certainly
quite driven. But if you're not accepting of the reality that that pre fight planning strategy and best practices
around striking implementation all show you, you're just handicapping yourself. You're
handicapped. Yeah, I'm going to play I'm going to play baseball with one hand behind my back.
All right, well, you might you might still be a good player,
but you're not probably going to be winning the home run derby doing that.
You know what I mean? So this is just where we are.
I mean, but credit to Murphy for the takedown defense,
the well-timed kicks that constantly caught Emmett when he was stepping forward.
His footwork is good too.
Look, some of those outward intangibles Murphy's brilliant at,
it's just not overly exciting to everybody.
But speaking of not overly exciting, Luke, let's transition into topic number two. And
this was your UFC Apex undercard where yes, there were a few bright spots that I do hope
we mentioned, but it's hard to avoid this one thing. Did you guys smell what Torres
Finney was cooking? Luke, after being forced to earn a spot on the UFC roster with an unprecedented
three appearances on the Dana White Contender Series, Torres Finney's split decision win
over Robert Valentin was incessantly booed and mocked as Finney would go on to land just
four significant strikes over 15 minutes of largely dominant grappling control. Was world famous boxing referee Tony Weeks, who was a judge and scored it
an outlier card of 30 to 27 for Valentine justified in your eyes, a massive troll job.
What do you stand on that after Finney produced,
let's say at one of the worst UFC debuts in modern history?
Dude, that scorecard from Tony weeks is the greatest.
It's the greatest thing that's happened at the apex.
Maybe ever, maybe ever look at that car.
Tony weeks showed up and was like, I'm not playing ball with this
bullshit even a little bit.
Go fuck yourself.
That was a waste of everybody's time. You don't belong
here. I didn't need to be here. Eat shit to the world is what he basically said. I fucking
love this from Tony weeks. By the way, they called him a boxing judge. He's been referred
or well, I don't know if he's reffed any MMA, but certainly reffed a lot of boxing too.
But he's done a lot of judging in MMA for years.
Like this was not multiple decades.
They tried to act on the broadcast.
Like they even ripped him.
They're like, well, that's what you get when a boxing guy judges a wrestling match.
It's like, dude, that guy's been there forever.
And also if we're just having wrestling matches, they'll stop calling it MMA.
I mean, let's what the way, you know, I don't need a boxing judge at a, at a, at a wrestling
match.
You're right.
But I didn't sign up to watch a wrestling match.
I signed up to watch an wrestling match. I signed up to
watch an MMA fight. Tony Weeks had the right idea one more
time about these stats. Torres Finney landed zero of one
attempted significant strike in round one and landed zero of
one attempted significant strike in round three. You
could argue he there were seven strikes total that he landed
that none of them significant. He did get five takedowns in the
first BC. You could argue that some get five takedowns in the first BC.
You could argue that some of the takedowns were slams and that that counts
because they do count the, the takedown itself is like a hard takedown.
They'll count that as like not, not, not exactly a strike, but that, you know, it
contributes to the damage quotient that they're trying to evaluate, you know, but
I just want to say first Tony Weeks giving this a 30-27,
whether he scored it that way
or whether it was a protest vote to me
is absolutely immaterial.
It's the most brilliant response possible
to the way in which that fight went, number one.
Number two, look, Torres Finney seems to be a nice guy,
but I don't understand what the
case is for signing him and you're not signing guys like Saladin Parnas or Artem Bakhtov,
especially if you know, we know that those guys weren't asking necessarily for like the
world in terms of money, but something, you know, a little bit greater than what they
could offer at the contender series.
And listen,
my understanding is sometimes the matchmakers do want to sign a guy and management doesn't want, or the promotion that those guys come from play like games with their contracts. And UFC just says,
I don't want to play with those. We're just going to keep what we get. So it can be a lot of reasons
why guys don't get signed beyond just, hey, we don't want to pay them, blah, blah, blah. So I can understand it's a mixed, it's a mixed situation, but BC,
you're getting what you pay for. If you're, if you're not going to pay top dollar for top guys,
then you're going to get situations like this where guys who are clearly not ready for this
level and don't have even remotely approximating the kind of well-rounded skill set or even
like a threatening skill set that they need to have in order to compete.
This is what you're going to get.
We talked about it on Friday.
You know, when you when you're landing 10 takedowns per 15 minutes, it means you can't
hold somebody down.
Sure enough, five of eight takedowns in round one, one of three, he was able to hold him
down a little bit in that one, but then two of six in in in round eight, eight takedowns in round one, one of three, he was able to hold them down a little bit in that one. But then two of six in in in
round eight, eight takedowns totally eight takedowns in a
fight in a 15 minute fight, dude, what the fuck are we doing
here? That's really three around, there has to be
development on wrapping the legs and holding them there risk
rides. Nelson's Turks to look at Sean Brady. Sean Brady would get
Leon down bitch.
You're staying down for the rest of that round.
If you even survive the round, look at the difference in ability.
Look at the difference in skill.
One guy is elite and one guy just got this opportunity because I don't know the internet
kind of wanted to boost him to this position.
And I'm sorry to say this again, Taurus Vinny seems like a good guy and it seemed like afterwards.
He understood that this performance didn't exactly blow away the world. But if we're just observing
this from afar, what is the fucking argument for signing a guy who's at this level versus some of
these international prospects that we've seen except that one comes at a much more discounted
rate? Well, that part's what you pay for. But I do believe that, like, they gave him three chances on the DWCS, and he did get
more exciting with each opportunity for whatever that means.
I obviously would feel bad for someone like Brendan Loughnane watching this and going,
what the F, right?
Or even Mohammed Mukhaev, although I know that there's other factors that led to him
being released.
But, Luke, back to the scoring for a second.
I did chuckle at the Tony Weeks one.
I liked the statement that it potentially sent.
I did see though, way more like really angry MMA fans
that I thought basically being like,
this man should never judge again.
Now for the record, I think you have to give
Valentin round three because he came out angry,
talking trash, landing big strikes before he ended up
on his back like the rest of those rounds.
Is there an argument here for 2-1 Valentine on the first two rounds in your eyes or no? Because
I did score it 2-1 for Finney giving him rounds one and two even though it was a very frustrating
lack of entertaining style. If there's no striking on either side and he completely
controls a guy and frustrates him and put him on his back. Don't you under the law have to give it to him?
No. Why do you have to give it to him?
So how did you score it?
I don't know if either guy belongs in UFC. That's how I scored it. That's one of those
fights where I looked at it and I was like, you're getting fucked like weird ass situations
like this because you have two opponents who are probably not good enough for this level.
Now Valentine or Valentine's arguments a little stronger. Obviously.
I don't know if it's entirely fair to him, but certainly in the case of Finney,
I was like, what are we doing here? I mean, I did go back and rewatch.
It was hard to stomach 15 minutes of this,
but I rewatched the some of the takedowns and all of the rounds to see exactly
how many of them were slams. Round two I think is probably the strongest Finney round because of the ability
to keep him down off just the one takedown he did land some strikes in that one of note. There were
some slams in the first one but they didn't seem to have a very big material effect. The problem
that you have, and I want to make sure I'm saying this without, yeah, the problem, you have one reversal that they credited Valentin with
in round two, which was nice. He was able to do that, but you'll notice he doesn't have
any sub attempts. And I know he's landed some strikes throughout six in round one. Valentin
did three in round two and then 14 in round three. That was obviously the clearest of
them. But it wasn't like he was scoring a ton of damage either, you know?
So this is what I mean.
This is what I mean about Tony Weeks's scorecard. It's like to me,
I think 3027, uh, uh,
Fini would have been like absolutely bizarre.
I don't think you could have done that, but anything from 2928,
Fini all the way over to 3027 Valentine would have been okay by me to be
perfectly honest, because I can understand how you could arrive at those positions. Also,
I'd note Ben Cartolich, who I sort of considered to be the gold standard in judging, he had
it 2928 for Finney. I don't know why he scored it that way. We without a chance to speak
to him. It's hard to know. But that is a very, very, very good judge. But Tony weeks to me looking at this for what it
obviously is, which is a gigantic waste of everyone's time. And somebody who's got one,
one dimension of a skill set, just trying to ride that out for 15 minutes and then hoping he gets
blessed with the decision.
This was a gigantic waste of everyone's time,
including Valentine's.
Well, I get that the story here is that Finney
was not entertaining and might not belong in the UFC,
but, and not necessarily people caring about
one round the other way, was it judged right or wrong
outside of the outrage of what weeks did.
But I do go back to the ABC definition,
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when a fighter's actions using striking or grappling lead to a diminishing of their opponent's energy,
confidence, abilities, and spirit.
So didn't do it.
Didn't do any of that.
It didn't do a single bit of that.
So long out Luke, how did you score you?
You're into this on a betting side aggressively.
So was was two to one Finney, even if we hated it,
the right scorecard in your eyes or how do you weigh in on that?
Yeah. So I had to res Finney in a parlay. So I was like a root and form. I thought he clearly
won rounds one and two. Gaff was making me sweat. Cause Gaff's like Gaff was going to Tony Weeks
route. He was like, dude, I don't know, man, I think there's a world Valentine's winning these
rounds. Uh, I think two ones, the right scorecard you give Valentine round three,
you got to give any rounds.
What he had, what Luke five takedowns in round one. I mean, yeah, five in round one.
That's got to be enough to win the round in my book.
Yeah, if he's not getting lit up, Luke, it is it really is. I do.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to go to the mat over it. I get I, I consider Tony Weeks's card
not to be like the most glorious card because it had the best fealty to the rules, but just as a kind of card that
was like a fight, you know, like a fuck you to this whole thing, which is really
how everybody felt when it was over.
That's why I mostly admire it.
It there, there is an interesting debate over the scoring to a degree, but
it's more like the protest of it.
That's where I'm at.
No.
And I, and I liked that it was out there.
So it warns people that this will not be fully tolerated
and accepted.
It reminds me of the tail end of Guillermo Rigondau's,
the great Cuban boxer's career, Luke,
when he's dodging punches left and right,
but not making you pay.
There are a lot of judges that would score fights
against him in that case,
even though it kind of looked like he outclassed the guy.
I get it.
You gotta have offense with that.
Let's hear it from Torres Finney,
who definitely came out and agreed with everybody
that it was not his best performance,
and in his eyes, here is the reason why.
The biggest critique coming out of this fight
is you did not throw a ground and pound.
Was there a reason for that?
No, the plan was to throw a ground and pound.
Maybe I was in this fight, I was too much position
over obviously striking, you know,
usually you hear the position over submission,
but I was too much position and not looking for openings.
And there were sometimes openings that I had,
I didn't take advantage of, and I don't know what it was
that was holding me back, a mental block, confidence,
but man, that was so much left to be desired in there
for myself, I did not like.
I would say it's a weird performance.
That was a dud, in my honest opinion.
It happens.
I ain't gonna lie, I feel great.
This is the best I've felt going into a fight.
Like, just was a dud.
And heck, I felt way worse in this going into a fight
and I've had incredible performances.
So you know, it just, it just the night sometimes.
And tonight was that one of those types of nights, you know, like I said, came out with
the victory.
Yeah, that's the main thing, but just, just got to grow.
You know, I've only been looking, it would go on from there, but you get the point of
it. I like his reaction, but I got to ask you the hard question.
If we all kind of agree he's not fit for prime time, would it be awful to A, cut him or B,
set a precedent that fighters that aren't ready but you don't necessarily want them
to go away, could he go back down to the data?
Could he get demoted to the Data White Contenders Series for for a fourth time? Like, what do you do right now?
If you're the UFC, where he became a big headline out of this event.
I kind of just feel like if you have to go to the contender series three times,
it kind of tells you you're not ready. I mean, the economics of the regional scene is a lot
at what is at play here where, where you know whatever the complaints about UFC fighter
pay it's obviously going to be
significantly greater than what your
typical regional promotion can pay.
I mean, obviously there's some exceptions
in places like continental Europe or
whatever, but you know in general,
especially in the American side,
you're just going to make a lot more money
in UFC so these guys have a strong
incentive they think to get up there.
And I listen it's I don't have the
answers for them and I know it's not very
fair and I don't know what to say but what I do know after
watching this for you know, almost my entire adult life and
then some you have to have requisite skills to win and do
damage and make a name for yourself. Otherwise, all of this
is going to backfire. You're going to go there when you're not ready.
You're going to underperformed and then you're going to find yourself
in exile with not much of a path to return.
And even if you do, it could be a lot longer before you ever find yourself back there.
It doesn't make sense to rush this.
And it just feels to me like, you know, I don't know exactly his life circumstances
or exactly why he tried to push for contender series when he did.
You know, we know the story.
These guys get the call up and all of a sudden they just want to head.
Uh, they wanted, they want to dive right into it.
And my response is this is a mistake.
This is absolutely a gigantic mistake that can only backfire long term,
unless he's all of a sudden able to make vast leaps in his technical ability.
My, so you're asking what the UFC should do.
I mean at this point, I think you can give him another fight, you know, put down on the prelim somewhere
and if that goes poorly, you know that I think they have a different conversation to make. I wouldn't cut him off of this.
I think that's a little punitive, but you know, it's not about what you do about this fight.
It's what you do about a talent pipeline where guys who are
clearly green, clearly uncontestably green, getting fast-tracked to main cards, I know on the apex,
but UFC main cards, when they simply don't have enough ability to compete properly at this level.
It's a waste of their time, the opponent's time, and the consumer's time, and frankly the UFC's
time too. To me it's a bigger issue than just what do opponent's time, and then the consumer's time, and frankly, the UFC's time too.
To me, it's a bigger issue than just,
what do you do with Torres?
Finney, Torres, Finney spotlights a broader issue.
Agreed, completely.
Like some Fight Night cards, you know,
I thought they suck.
Some of the hardcore fans are the betters,
like Long Island Luke are like, no, it's good.
This one felt like it wasn't good top to bottom.
And I think it might be a reflection
of the Dana White
Contender Series Factory to what you're saying,
where people aren't ready.
They're coming in on low salaries purposely.
I mean, look, you know why I'm really,
one of the reasons why I'm so excited about 314 on Saturday,
because there's 23 fighters on the card
and 15 of them have Wikipedia pages.
I'm like, yes, this is a win.
Where, this is a loaded card.
This is what it should be.
But Luke, to speak to this card in totality,
I do want to show you a tweet
that the great Kaposa, Grabaka Hitman put out there.
According to his research,
Saturday's card was the fourth consecutive UFC event
where no fight of the night was given.
And that's the first time it happened since 2015.
And by the way, 2015 came during a great era.
So that was probably an anomalous like stretch is this current stretch
anomalous if that's even a word or is this also speaking to the larger issues
right now too small of a sample size to say it could be what we're spotlighting
is contributing.
I don't know if you feel differently. I'm a little bit. I'm always a little bit like when I say broader trends, I mean, like things that are like somewhat years in the making for fights being like this is certainly catches your eye and could be could be, but I'm a little bit hesitant to ascribe a significant amount of meaning to it at the moment. Well, Luke, if Dana White isn't showing up and caring about these cards, should fight
fans. Let's see where Dana was over the weekend.
What's up, everybody? So I played in the Baccarat tournament at the MGM mansions. I lost. I'm
out. I'm a loser, but you're not. So this is what they gave us in the invitations.
That's a thousand dollar bill from like 1934.
And this is an ounce and a half of gold.
So two of you will have the opportunity to win this.
I haven't figured out how I'm gonna do it yet,
but stay tuned.
So, you know, the two of you he's talking about
are not the fighters.
And look, I'm not sitting here saying, Dana White can't have a night off, but it is telling
about a lot of things when Dana White entered a $10 million Bacharot tourney on Saturday
and we can't get Jones Aspinall and we got 12 and 12 guys stinking it out in the cage.
I don't know if that's related, but it's a, it's part of the larger people will always say, Oh, like Dana white can spend his own money, which of course is
true. And also like, you know, if Dana white's going to take a night off, taking a night
off on this kind of a card is probably like, you know, you'd rather him be off this night
than let's say a UFC three 14, right? But, um, at the same time, it's like, well, where
do you think that money comes from? You know what I mean?
Like, oh, he can spend his money how he wants, right?
But how did he generate that?
You know what I mean?
Like, it's because again, I can't get, I mean, I'm not going to do this shit.
Like, I can't.
Give me the good.
Give me something good from Saturday's undercard.
Okay, yes.
Well, there was, to be clear.
There definitely was.
For me, first of all, Ode Osborne had a nice third round stoppage over Luis Gurule,
which I thought he had fast hands, his hands were looking sharp the whole fight. And the
way he kind of slowly found his opportunity there was I think it was with that uppercut,
the uppercut, it was a left hook that he landed. And then he polished them off. That was pretty
sick. Rees McKee going in there and just absolutely giving Daniel Froonza
the business beating his ass. Had him basically stopped. I thought to me, the guy that looked
the most interesting by the way, the the short notice opponent from Uran Satyabaldiev, you
know, giving up an enormous amount of weight, I thought still perform pretty ably, but that's not it. The guy who to me looked the most
skillful on this card, skillful, and in the broadest way in which
I can say it, and I don't know how you can even disagree with
this. Victor Henry, Victor Henry is a Josh Barnett trained
fighter. Obviously, that's going to give him some pedigree right
there. And he's had some tough breaks in the octagon, including
with being the victim of fouls and a
whole bunch of other stuff.
But dude, he is a very skilled fighter.
He is skilled on the ground in transition on the feet.
I thought he looked awesome.
He nearly put Pedro Falcao away a few times, came very close.
His right hand could not miss in that fight.
It was incredible. He to me stood out far
and away the best fighter on that car, at least the best performance, I think in addition, amazing.
Yeah. I also, I mean, look, the stakes are lower on the first fight of the night, but to lead Alan
Carr absolutely dominated Vanessa Demopoulos over three rounds and really just put her on her back,
which is, uh, you know, a place where Demopoulos normally shines with that
counter grappling and those, you know, she's rallied to a lot of submission wins in her
career. She got absolutely suffocated in that fight by that grappling and there was heavy
ground and pound mixed in. So shout out there. Long Island Luke, do you want to echo any
of the matchups we talked about or any big bets that you pulled off this weekend?
I just want to bring up what I think should have been the fight of the night.
Cortevius Ramias versus Chang Ho Lee. That fight was bonkers. It was only like
eight minutes long, but it was crazy, dude. In like a 30 second span, Lee had full mount on
Cortevius. Then 10 seconds later, Cortevius is on the back with both hooks in. Then 10 seconds later,
Lee is on the back with the fucking body triangle. It was just crazy scrambles,
all action. Cortevius's nickname is Are, are you not entertained? And I got to say, I was
really entertained that entire time. That was a great fight.
Yes. To me, that fight was a little sloppy, which is why I didn't put it in there,
but I can agree that there was plenty of action, plenty of momentum switching.
It's not a bad choice at all. Certainly.
Yeah. Cortavious did miss weight by a lot, but he did come in and lose
entertaining. By the way, and Joe, Joe Martinez announced it and he, when he was announcing the weights, he was like, and, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, since WEC days was amazing. Yeah, I've worked on the same boxing cards with him. He's a gentleman. He's a great guy.
All right, let's go to topic number three.
This should get you fired up.
Why?
Because UFC 314 hits Miami this Saturday.
It's loaded.
In fact, before I even tee up a question to Luke,
let's take another look at the main card
that we're going to see there.
Of course, headlined by an interim featherweight title
about the main event pairing Alexander Volkanovsky
and Diego Lopez,
but you can see up and down all bangers.
So Luke, we have a lot of potential storylines
to work with.
Obviously on Wednesday,
we're gonna take a few shots of Cuervo
and get into it big time.
But from the title return of the 36 year old Volk
to Patricio Pitbull's debut,
Patty Pimblitz step up,
which storyline of this very exciting card on Saturday
has you the most jacked up, focused and excited for?
Man, there's, I mean, obviously
that main event is tremendous
and I know you've got a different answer,
so I don't wanna step on it.
We kind of talked about this ahead of time,
but I think, you know, where my head is at in all of this
is two things I would say say BC. Let me say the
first one then I want to add the second very quickly. First thing I'm going to say is I
think the introduction to the UFC of Patricio Pitbull, there are ways in which this goes
where it's a big bust. We have to acknowledge that he can go in there against Jair Rodriguez
on this main card, get flatlined or beat up or just kind
of made to look lesser than and fans are going to go, oh, that's the best fighter in Bellator
history. He got his ass whooped by Jair Rodriguez, who's a good fighter, but you know, has already
lost to Volk and you know, lost to Max and you know, you name it like has proven to be
good but not the best in this division. Certainly not by a long shot. That is a real risk that they run,
which by the way to to me makes it exciting.
And as we've indicated,
this is not prime pitbull.
This is a 37 year old pitbull.
So even if he were to lose,
you're not beating the best version
of this guy's ever been.
And you have to kind of acknowledge that.
However, BC, however, you know,
you mentioned over the weekend
that there was at least some rumors
of Aaron Pico being added to this division.
Now we know for a fact, obviously, that Pitbull is here and if Pitbull can get a win at age 37 over a top five guy,
I mean, understand what's happening here. Who would be in front of him in the rankings, BC?
Movsar is sitting at four, but if you're the best fighter in Bellator history and you come over and you knuckle Yair Rodriguez into the canvas,
you're gonna leap him. After
that, it's Diego, Diego's already in the main event, Max
Max is up at 55. And then number one is Volk, who's also in the
main event. The point I'm trying to make is with the right kind
of performance, the best fighter in Bellator history is knocking
on the door of a title shot. And he's doing it again, if he gets to that place
against a known credible action fighter
of an unimpeachable degree.
I mean, that is just so freaking awesome
for all the people like me who watched the possibility
of Fador getting signed to the UFC and then it passing
and then it passing and then it passing
and then it just completely passed.
You know, it's kind of like a thing where you understand, but it's
lamentable.
I watched fador in pride and to see that guy never get an opportunity in the UFC.
And I know that the negotiations fell through whatever, but you know, never.
Yeah.
But dummy, but dummy messed it up, which by the way, it's kind of funny.
Scott Coker co-signed on that.
So like, so apparently Dana and Scott Coker don't like Vadim, whatever his last name was, but not me, but
Finkelstein Finkelstein. That's it. But what I want to make with
pitbull is to get a guy who's basically maybe fador is the
best fighter in MMA history who never fought in the UFC. But
Patricio was right on his heels. And now we get to see that in
action. And the stakes are such that it's kind of like a dark
horse candidate for a title shot and BC, let me add my second point, which is I don't know
if Pico was going to be added, but if he is, it only makes this point stronger, which is
I'm so mad at Ilja Toporia for leaving this division. I am so bitter about it because
if he was still here, not only would you be
getting some epic rematches, but look at all of the other potential amazing fights that
could could be available at this unique moment in time for all the belly aching that we do
about 205 or heavyweight or you know, you name it dude 145 with Ilya at the top, adding pit bull as a, you know,
and then as still as a viable contender and adding Aaron Pico, dude, you're
talking about an, a, a red hot division in that way.
And it's still pretty great.
It's still pretty hot, but I'm bitter about it.
I'm bitter about it.
I mean, look, Ilya against all those killers is fun, but do you realize what has lately been rumored on Twitter for the international fight week main
event come, come early July or end of June, whenever the date is it's Ilya versus Islam for
the lightweight title one versus two pound for pound in the world. So look, that fight trumps
all of these. Okay. And you know that at the end of the day, but Ilya is apparently waiting for
the results of three 15 and if JDM wins, he's just going to jump to go fight JDM. He's not going to fight. So now what
are you going to do for all that? They're going to tell him you have to fight Elia first
and they're going to pay him to make him do it. I'm, I'm, I'm starting to get confident.
We will see that. I don't know about Jones Aspinall, but if I get Elia Islam, I will
have a phoner from here to Hanover, Iowa and Ohio. And I think you know that Luke. Okay.
We do have some sound and I echo what you're saying about Pipple, I think he's got an opportunity,
especially since he said I'll fight at 45, 55.
He even said he'll fight at 70 for the right matchup.
He has an opportunity to do the Michael Chandler plan.
Is he past his peak?
Yes, but can he potentially lose big all action fights
or sneak a win in there?
He might be able to do the Chandler thing.
We'll find out, but here's Pipple speaking in English, giving us in there, he might be able to do the Chandler thing.
We'll find out, but here's Pippel speaking in English,
giving us a breakdown of what he expects
now that he's inside the Octagon.
It's a great time to me.
Like I'm all this year, waiting for this moment
and I feel very happy for that.
Pray to God and say thanks because he's a top five contender and it's put me in a
great place in that division.
The most complete and violent federate on the planet.
It's all good.
He's a very respectful guy.
He's a very laid back guy.
You know, we're only going to show violence when we get in the octagon.
It's a good moment to put my feet on the air, take that belt.
It depends on my performance.
I really don't know, but I fight against him.
Like Dana said, would be a great place in this division.
He's a top five and he will be a great victor to me.
And I believe that it will be good for, you know,
maybe can fight for the title.
Let me pause at a scenario for you here.
Let's say, even though Diego Lopez is an underdog,
I believe in the main event,
let's say he wins and becomes the outright champion there.
Could we see Lopez Pippel at UFC Noche
and Guada Lahara later this year?
Well, Guada Lahara, you might be able to see that.
Yes. And Guadalajara, that's, that's not like years at the
top of his game, right? He's lost two of his last three.
It'd be interesting. Yeah. No, no. I mean, again, I it's
it's one of those situations where the UFC's kind of, you
know, like we're kind of rolling the dice there and kind
of seeing what comes up and they're going to make a play
based on all these options, but that's the point I'm trying
to make like dude 45 is so freaking hot. It's so good. Even with like,
you know, you got Brian Otega still sitting at six, I don't
think he really deserves to be sitting at six. But you know,
he's gonna be fun for the right kind of matchup, depending on
how things go. So, you know, dude, you could get you could
get Yair versus Lopez, by the way, for that Noche card, you
could get Pitbull versus,
I don't know, Volk.
You know what I mean?
Like there's just a bunch of really fun possibilities.
I am concerned like everybody else at 37.
I have some managed expectations, but I'm telling you, MMA is funny and crazy and Pitbull
coming over here and making a name for himself at 314 is only good for the rest of us.
All right. Let's show this face off video from that kickoff press conference. They did size difference seems big, but I guess, you know, people's always the shorter guy against everybody.
What do you make of this? This face off? Yeah. I mean, he's a he's I don't make much of it.
I you know, you know, he's going to have the height and reach disadvantage.
That's just everything he always does.
You know, remember for folks who haven't seen it or don't remember, I remember when he moved to the moved up to 55 to have the height and reach disadvantage. That's just everything he always does. You
know, remember for folks who haven't seen it or don't remember, I remember when he moved
up to 55 and basically one punched Michael Chandler. I mean, it was a little more than
that, but not much more. Um, you know, his power carries, make no mistake. It's just
a question of BC. And we'll talk about this on Wednesday. Can he get close enough, quite
literally physically to Yair to make this work? And I guess we're going to find out.
Well, look, uh, you could, we could have each gone a few different ways. It's because this card is so
good in terms of what we're focused on. For me, it's 30 year old Patty Pumblet. It's now or never
time in a lot of ways, right? It's time for him to step up. He's, he could given the veterans in this
division and he's getting one that's after market, of course, and Chandler, although he's exciting and
maybe a little bit dirty, depending on your opinion.
But the whole point here is that this is Patty's closeup moment.
Let's see if he can make that leap.
It's one thing to beat an old ass Tony Ferguson and an old ass King Green.
Well, now you got to beat an old ass Michael Chandler, but we know the stakes.
We know the drought and star power.
This is a big opportunity for Patty to make a massive statement or have
it all fall apart spectacularly. But Luke, check out the shape. We know Patty gets big
between fights. Check out those abs and the shape that he's coming in. It seems like no
stones are left unturned here. Dude, I am so fired up for this matchup. Are you as confident as I am? Not that Patty is
necessarily the real deal, but that what we saw in the last fight against King
Green, he's turning a corner, he's adding as he goes. He might end up in a title
fight Luke, it might happen. I have been down on Patty and I still have some
concerns about exactly how good he is but like he's not only
does he look chiseled BC he looks big at 55 now he was kind of a little bit scrawnier he's kind
of grown into his size a little bit and do I think that Chandler's overhand right could send
Patty's chin into orbit of course I do but at the same time Chandler fights recklessly and Patty has good control from the back.
And you've seen Chandler submitted that way and multiple guys have gotten his back before.
Like there's a lot of ways this goes real bad for Chandler who was waiting on that
McGregor fight, which just ain't never coming. I fucking love this dude. This card, this card rules.
It does. I know I hated starting, starting to show being all negative about that fucking
fight night card because I'm sorry, there's really no other
way to talk about it. But negatively for the most part
anyway, but this 314 card has so much going for it. I can't wait
for Wednesday's sit down with Jen, which I can't believe I'm
saying because he is terrible.
Long Island Luke reminded us of the Draft Kings odds for that
main event, by the way, minus 130 for Volkanovsky, plus 110 for the younger Lopez.
So that's gonna be fantastic.
We do have one last bit of sound.
I know everybody, when we say the name Michael Chandler,
follows it up with the word dirty.
But Luke, it is about time for his arrival.
And here's Mike Heck taking Chandler to task
about that dirtiness.
How do you rea
and also just this notion
Michael Chandler guy, he
fights. Yeah, I mean the
man. Um, people don't rea
me like unless you're in
don't know who I truly am
of the camera. People hav
that I'm some, you know, I play nice in front of the camera
and I'm a bad guy behind the camera.
You're always gonna have those accusations, right?
But I know who I am and I know who I am at my core.
I'm a guy who tries to do things right,
tries to treat people right,
do things with honor and respect.
So the cheating narrative is a little tough for me,
but also it's all part of
the court of public opinion, man. Did I grab Dustin Poirier's mouthpiece? Yes, I did. Cause I
thought it was his chin. I've already, I've already addressed that one. Things happen in a fight.
Are you going to reach over and grab the cage? Are you going to, you know, get your fingers in
the glove? Yeah. Those things are going to happen in a fight in the last fight. Charles Olivera
dug his chin so deep into my eye socket
that I thought I was going to go blind which is illegal it's an eye gap right he was grabbing
my gloves when he was trying to choke me like there were there was these things happen when
you're inside of the cage I would never say that Charles Olivera is a cheater his body is reacting
and doing things without his brain's permission all right you're in fight or flight things happen
things without his brain's permission. All right. You're in fight or flight. Things happen. Um, so it's, it's a tough narrative. Um, with that being said, I
also respect Patty for not making a big deal out of it. I mean, I think it's a
sign of weakness when you start talking about a guy cheating.
Well, look, there is unfortunately a long, uh, there's a long history. People
are playing old early bellator clips of him grabbing the
fence to get up. I mean, it, it's kind of part of his game. Maybe the large, I don't
want to hear shit. The referees don't enforce it. Why the fuck would you not do it? You're
an idiot if you don't do it. I texted you Jason Herzog when Lauren Murphy got, got a
put his fingers in Josh Emmett's eye during that fight on Saturday. He did say, look,
you do that again. I'm taking a point.
So that was a step forward.
But do you think the larger narrative should be that Chandler's 38 and
he's lost four of his last five with the only win being Tony Ferguson,
even though he obviously fights super elite competition and
goes for broke at all costs?
Should it be, you're asking what should the narrative be or
surrounding what about Chandler?
Instead of him being dirty is should the narrative
be?
Oh, have what it takes at this level.
I, I think I'll say this to the extent the fight is one or lost
is going to be decided by those broader factors, but I'm sorry
in a world where the referees absolutely refuse not not all of
them.
Not all the time obviously, but as a general proposition in a world and in a sport where the referees do
not penalize fouls, why would you ever get mad at a fighter for fouling?
Oh, that's dirty. No, it's not. They don't do shit about it. Play the,
play the rules to your advantage.
You get one shot at this every single time you're out there.
You don't get any do-overs, hardly likely anyway.
Make it count.
They're not gonna penalize you for it.
Fucking do it.
I don't care.
I don't care even a little bit.
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So we were all set up here for Wednesday.
We are going to have a great time.
But let's transition now to the sport of the box in topic number four.
Interesting question to kind of kick it off.
Has boxing's reliance upon Riyadh's season come to an end
or are we watching it come to an end?
You may ask what I'm talking about.
We've got a couple pieces of business here
to set this topic up.
First of all, being Shakur Stevenson,
the lightweight champions,
response to Williams Apeyta promoter, Oscar De La Hoya, who said, after Shakur Stevenson, the lightweight champion's response to William Zapata promoter Oscar De La Hoya,
who said, after all the shit talking,
Shakur pulls out of the Zapata fight.
Shakur comes back with it.
Is that what they told you?
Turkey promised me a number,
and now he's going back, way back on that number
that he promised, and sending his towel boys,
an unfortunate remark, to run me the info instead of telling me straight up
what he trying to do.
Bow down to nobody, Mr. De La Hoya.
Now let's negotiate.
And then also Shakur would say this about the fight itself,
that he's done negotiating,
because one thing, he's the champ.
So whether the fight gets done with these people,
meaning Turkey and Riyadh season or not, I'm stepping on dude, but the fight will be made next. So Luke Thomas,
I want to start right here. The March 5th announcement that Dana White and Turkey Al-Ashique
are going to form this upcoming TKO boxing lead has appeared to supercharge everyone else in the
business who's trying to figure out where their place is moving forward.
Not only are PBC and Top Rank rumoring or straight up planning to work together in the future,
you've got more fighters like Shakur, Teofimo Lopez, who we'll show in a second,
speaking out, it seems, against Turkey.
So has the mass exodus of boxing's reliance upon Riyadh season begun,
or does it appear possibly to you that Saudi Arabia has begun tightening up the purse strings
for everyone not named TKO ahead of what we expect
to be this September TKO launch on Netflix
of Bud and Canelo?
Well, I don't think we're ready to declare mass exodus yet.
I would have to see a lot of maneuvering
for that to be the case.
But I do think that there are some interesting things in place BC
with let's piece them all together here for a second.
First of all, we'll see what happens with this May 2 show
that's supposed to take place in Times Square. I don't know what
the status is of it. It could be a big hit for them. But we'll
have to see how that goes and how that's executed. That's the
first thing I'm going to say it's small note, but keep in
mind. The second thing I'm going say is BC, this remark from...
By the way, I know he said towel boys.
Isn't that just a reference to like country club people?
Like, you know, like an errand person, not a turban wearing...
I don't know. I assume the worst because it's Bach, it's combat sports, but I don't know.
I took it to be a statement of you're a servant, not a not a cultural, but I don't I don't I mean who the fuck that's actually a fair a fair possibility.
But I think like this Luke, it is what it receives. Right. Right.
Yeah, it is what the people it's not what you say is what they hear.
Okay, fair enough. The point I'm trying to make is that to me was shocking that he did this over the weekend. Very, very, very surprising that he was now creating
some distance between himself and listen, here's the here is what Shakur Stevenson is saying.
And I think it's what all these guys would basically say. But some are more likely to say it
than others. Namely, yeah, I'll do business with Saudi Arabia. I will do business with Turkey.
I'll put on a happy face. I'll show up. I'll fight hard. I'll train hard. I'll do business with Saudi Arabia. I will do business with Turkey. I'll put on a happy face.
I'll show up.
I'll fight hard.
I'll train hard.
I'll do everything you want me to do and I'll play ball.
And we can even fight in Riyadh.
We don't have to fight in Newark or pick your hometown.
In the case of Shuker Stevenson, it'd be Newark, New Jersey.
But if you're not going to pay top dollar for that,
then I don't really have any interest at all.
It's not like he has any great affinity for fighting in Riyadh. It's not like he's got any great affinity for
Turkey on a personal level. It's not like he's got any great affinity for the broader potentially
social or sporting project that the Saudis are trying with their investments in sports more
generally. Not just this, but of course there was the live golf tournament over the weekend in one of President Trump's properties.
So if you don't have any attachment to that at all, other than transactionally, if you
overpay for me, I'll go do this.
Well, what happens when you start winding down what that payment looks like?
All of a sudden, that entire business proposition becomes a lot
less attractive. I would add something else on top of that BC, which is what we already
know the 18 months or even now, I guess, 17 months left on Turkey's deal with these other
promoters like we know that's coming to a close. And I feel like the closer we get the
uglier it's going to get. That's just a personal feeling that, you know, kind of having seen
this movie before,
I mean, this is a particularly unique situation,
but when promoters stop working together,
it gets a little bit uglier at the end.
And the last thing I'm gonna say too is, you know,
I don't, I'm trying to be as honest as I possibly can be.
I'm not trying to make an argument for invoking
some kind of political discussion here.
What I am gonna say is BC,
should there be a market downturn,
and particularly on the price of oil,
that could have a pretty important cascading effect
on what the Saudis are able to spend
on any of their sporting ventures,
particularly one at boxing,
which is a little bit at the margins.
And I think the question you have to ask yourself
is even independent of that,
if you don't even want to get into that, BC.
It's why is Turkey turning the whatever the price was, why is he dialing it back?
To me, that's a step that to me is like, what is the impetus behind that at this moment?
Because that will probably tell you the foreshadowing.
That probably is, in fact, the foreshadowing, that probably is in fact the foreshadowing
that awaits a lot of these guys who've had deals with him.
I mean, we all knew the money wasn't gonna last.
Just like when PBC came out in 2015
and put boxing on every network
and everybody was getting these huge salaries,
we knew that that was not possibly sustainable
for the long run.
It was more about trying to attract a big TV deal.
We feel like we know the motives of Turkey and Saudi Arabia coming out as aggressively as they did.
So I think all the points you made could very well be it, just like all the points I'm trying to make of how many promoters thought they were in bed with Turkey,
maybe even for the long run, only to get that announcement on March 5th that basically said,
you're on the outside looking in, even though we oddly still have this contract
to work together for a while.
I do feel like Saudi Arabia is pulling back the purse strings.
Could it be situational because Shakur Stevenson
currently has such a poor reputation,
excuse me, from a marketing standpoint?
Remember, he fought on the greatest last crescendo card
of all time against that last minute
of electrician and you know didn't necessarily sizzle.
Is this just Turkey making a statement against that?
I don't think that's the case.
I think it's the larger picture of okay we've we've announced it we've we've called our
shot in the distance and I and look there are people on the inside by the way who believe
the timing of that announcement on March 5th was a retaliation to the rumors of the money
that Jake Paul was trying to put together
and the prospect of him getting on Netflix with a series
before TKO could launch.
So there's a lot of competing factors right here,
but it is interesting how many people are coming out now
that used to be in Turkey's back pocket
are coming out against him.
Also, it's interesting that that Times Square card
has been changed now to a pay-per-view on Dazon as has the fight card in two weeks I believe when Connor
Bett and Chris Eubank kick off the Ring Magazine series. That'll be a pay-per-view in the States
as well on Dazon. So let's show this final tweet from Shakur which feels to me like a grand statement
here. Real men stand up never bow down to nobody but the creator. I mean look which feels to me like a grand statement here. Real men stand up, never bow down to nobody but the creator.
I mean, look, that feels to me like he's saying
exactly what you said, like,
hey, if Turkey's gonna give me the money, that's fine.
I'm not begging, I'm not taking a knee,
I'm not gonna hold his hand on the video.
I think that's what the rest of American boxing is doing.
That's why PBC and Top Rank are willing to publicly show
now that they're gonna work together.
We have one other tweet here that was deleted,
or I think it was an Instagram response,
from Teo Fimo Lopez, the one on the left that's circled.
It says, this is in response to a Ring Magazine tweet
of one month away, the May 2nd card,
and Teo said, the promotion you guys been doing on your card
has been shit emoji. And then Luke that got deleted and he tagged he tagged turkey and
that got deleted and he came back and said May 2nd is going to be a super stardom night
of boxing great job to everyone and HEE meaning his excellency turkey as they like to call
him. Luke you could also put that as Tao be crazy.
He's saying all kinds of crazy shit.
But I think that people are starting to realize that you're going to be with take TKO slash
Turkey or you're going to be against them very shortly.
I don't know how you can draw any other conclusion.
This is the problem when like they're doing business with somebody.
It doesn't make a lot of sense, but if they just overpaypay you just kind of look the other way. If you reduce the pay,
like there's nothing left. There's absolutely nothing left. This like comical again, everyone
was going to want the highest pay. But I'm saying if the only thing keeping you there is comically
overpriced, you know, totally beyond what the market calls for paydays. I mean, get them while
you can get them while you can. But if you're not going to maintain those, it's going to be hard to maintain the business
that was underwriting it. Right? Well, look, one more person who has been in Turkey's back
pocket is Oscar de la Hoya of Golden Boy Promotions. And he used part of his infamous clap back
Thursdays this past week to go hard in the pain against Dana TKO. And if you're going
to do that by extension,
I think it means Turkey too.
Let's hear part of it.
And speaking of scumbags,
you can't run a boxing organization
when you don't have any fighters.
And right now, TKO and Dana have zero fighters.
No fighter's going to fight for these pennies.
The majority of their prospects will fight
one or two times a year and be forced to
survive on minimum pay. And keep in mind they will be fighting tough fights. Dana said the best must
fight the best. So their careers will be short. No pay-per-view fighter will fight for $750,000.
You're telling me the Canelas and the Ryans of this world
are going to agree to this kind of pay cut? We might not like it. No! The UFC fighters will be
so pissed the TKO boxers will be getting paid so much more than they are. UFC fighters are already
disgusted with how little they get paid for putting their lives on the line.
Dana already tried several times to get into the boxing space in the past. Remember Zufa,
which never even got off the ground. The reason you've never seen me do anything is because
when Dana doesn't have the funding and the business brains already in place,
like the frititas or turkey, he always fails. How
about the ultimate surfer? Or the power snap? As for Dana's character, it speaks for itself.
I don't even have to say anything about a guy who publicly slapped his own wife and
whose own mother wrote a book about what a terrible person her son is
and it's available on Amazon if you want to read it yourself
will I work with Dana in the future if he's in the boxing space?
Sure! Because 80% of the folks I deal with in boxing are scumbags anyway!
Look it seems the little glass house on there from Oscar, but you know, I mean, I would
hardly take a, you know, an insult fest from Oscar as like some kind of brave truth telling.
I will say, however, those are getting smoother in terms of delivery. Like he's clearly hired
a writer or something, you know? Yeah. Joke writer from the beginning, I think too. Yeah.
But, uh, that is interesting. We'll see where the marriages and divorces within boxing promotion continue to play out as the
year progresses. Topic number five is a quick look back and a very quick look
ahead at what's actually going on in the sport of boxing and over the weekend
Tim Zuh, the son of the Hall of Famer, had his Australian return after an
absolutely disastrous 2024 stopping Joey Spencer in four rounds.
So after a close start, Zoo would go on to mop up Spencer using hard combinations and
building off the jab to end that two fight losing skid.
Luke, did the soul taker look like he was all the way back from what happened last year?
He looked good for as long as it lasted. I just don't know what to
make of Joey Spencer. I mean, it's kind of funny. Joey Spencer's from Minnesota, yeah?
I believe that's right because I don't know. I don't know. Well, Ilhan Omar, who is the
congressman or one of the congressmen from Minnesota, was tweeting about it early. And
then as the fight wore on, she was like, my God, is he even going to fight back? Like even,
I think even the local congressman was like goddamn dude do something about it
so here's the thing I think Joey Spencer is a fine fighter.
He's from Michigan by the way.
Say again?
Michigan.
Joey Spencer he's from Michigan.
Well maybe he's got residence in Minnesota of some kind I don't know.
I don't know I don't fucking know but she was tweeting about it like she was all disappointed
anyway neither here nor there. What I'm trying to point out BC is it
wasn't like a stern test. This was not another Murtazaliev. You
don't mean that's not who this was. And it's not another
certainly not Keith. I mean, even like a washed Keith Thurman.
I don't think that's what that's what this was. But you know, did
he a perform well? Yes. And B, this was the most important important part of BC and I think we have some sound to this effect
It was what he said afterwards. It's like yeah, it turns out if you don't fight like I mean he didn't say this exactly
But it was kind of like if you don't fight like a dumbass and you just don't rush into things you get better results
So this was a downgrade an opponent
It was a get-right fight by the way get-right fights are important tune-up fights are important
They can absolutely rebuild confidence and get you going again.
But it was to me the understanding that you know, he was the architect of his own
demise and that murder Zalia fight and hell, he's not going to do that anymore, dude,
a hundred percent.
So even even though Spencer is not a world killer, he's largely responsible defensively.
He's quick.
He can do some things and the whole point that I took from it,
which you kind of echoed, was he just
didn't come out with his hands down,
getting hit with the same punch.
When he builds behind his jab and his godhead movement
and the defensive sound, which it was, dude,
he's a completely different fighter.
He's a near super elite fighter.
That's the facts.
He didn't have that against Murtazali.
The same mistake he made against Gauchet in that first round
when he got dropped.
You can't just go to terminator mode. You
gotta build it up. I think he's now learned that lesson. I'm not saying that
this tells you he's gonna knock out Terrence Crawford in an undisputed
match, but I do believe he put it back on track. Let's hear from him in the
ring with Ben Damon after the fight. Learn from my mistakes. You don't go in
like a hothead from the first round and just abandon everything.
So I learnt my lesson and I had one hell of an opponent with me with Joey Spencer so I'm
blessed to share the ring with him and he's going to have plenty more opportunities in
the future.
Who will you share the ring with next because we had Keith Thurman out in the country a
little while ago. Do you have a message for him or someone else?
Yeah, you know, man, if the fans want to, and we can bring a mega show to Australia,
the boys are no limit. You know who to contact and we'll do a big show here.
Well look, Thurman put out a video in the middle of the night that said, send the contract, I'll sign it.
Zoo would outland Spencer in that fight according to CompuBox,
81 to 25 connecting on 54% of his power shots.
And again, the best news was he wasn't getting lit up in return.
So big win there.
Luke, there was a couple other boxing notes that we saw.
One of them, of course, was Joe Joyce,
who really looked washed here in his late 30s
as he would lose again, this time to Philip Bergovich.
It was a fight that was boring as heck.
It heated up a bit at the end.
And then we got this tweet from UK announcer Adam Cattarall
that's really just asking, he says,
Joe Joyce is absolutely entertaining,
but he's the Hugh Jackman kind of greatest showman.
Come see the bearded lady way.
The money is irrelevant when his later quality of life
won't allow him to enjoy that wealth.
I hope his loved ones encourage him to stop.
I think he put out that tweet in reaction to Joyce
coming out in the post-fight interview and saying,
I wanna keep fighting,
there's a lot of great matchups for me.
But let's look at his box truck page up close.
I mean, look at that fall from stopping Dubois and unbeaten Dubois knocking out Carlos
Takom knocking out Joseph Parker to what we've seen in the last five fights.
You can't make a guy stop.
I mean, there's journeymen that go on to their forties and fifties, but I don't need to see
any more of him at the elite level.
He just gets beat up.
That's just, that's just the facts.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe he's hoping for a big Saudi payday of some kind and I can understand that,
but I actually, I echo what Adam Ketterall says that this is it's time.
Yeah. And Luke, I forgot to hype this up on the, uh, on the setup last week, but on that Richard
Torres, Jr. Top rank card in Las Vegas, the co-main of, I'm sorry, not the co-main, one of the undercard fights saw Abdullah Mason on his 21st birthday go in there and get a nice stoppage win against
his opponent Ornelis.
And look, he's 18 and 0 with 16 KOs, but like Bruce Carrington a week before, dude, he's
talking about title shots at lightweight like soon, maybe next.
Let's hear a quick sound here from Mason.
But like I said, we got the job done.
You know, Cabrera, we would have did the same thing.
What were your takeaways from tonight, man?
That'll help you going forward, I guess, Ornelas.
You know, just go back to the drawing board.
You know, it's always room for improvement.
No matter how you do, it's always room for improvement.
So, you know, that's what they showed me as well.
You know, every fight.
And I did great, you know.
Durable opponent, I was touching him, and I got him out of there.
Do you feel your star breaking out?
I mean, you see how quickly everyone swarmed about
and you had the crowd saying happy birthday.
Do you feel your star is beginning to break out?
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
It's only a matter of time.
Bob told me right after the fight,
keep stay focused and you're gonna be the face of boxing.
So, you know, that's what I see myself as,
the face of boxing coming up.
What would you, would you rather,
do you have a preference if Keyshawn
can't keep making the weight
and you eventually have to fight for a vacant title?
But would you prefer to fight one of the champions
instead of winning a vacant title?
Does it not matter to you either way?
I mean, boxing will determine who, you know,
what would happen when I get there, you know?
If I get there and I fight somebody
who already has a title,
may end up taking that title,
or if I have to fight for a vacant title,
it doesn't matter.
As long as I keep stepping it up like I've been doing,
making these guys, keep stopping these guys,
I'm making them look how I'm supposed to make them look.
We get our job done when we get there,
so that's what we're looking forward to right now.
That's what's here.
Luke, you score four knockdowns in this fight,
just turned 21 on the night.
Dude, these young Americans want the smoke.
I cannot stop saying it.
Like, do you want to put the brakes on him
or do you want to send him right into something?
I was not overly impressed with the caliber of opponent.
So, you know, I'm not sure what to say about that.
Also, there was a video that would emerged
of Shakur Stevenson talking to him backstage,
which was amazing.
Shakur Stevenson gave him the best advice for a young fighter. That was from the fight where Mason was knocked down twice in the first round last year.
Okay. I thought it was recent, but either way, the advice is still great, which was,
it doesn't matter who it is. Every fighter is dangerous in the first round. Everyone,
every single one, you have to take your time and, you know, methodically apply your game.
And it might happen that you stop them in the first first but it might not. So you got to plan for that and
I'll get the same advice to Tim Zuh I'm sure understands it now but
you can see a lot of fighters kind of get that calibration wrong and anyway,
that being said, Abdullah Mason obviously is the goods but I didn't.
It was a good performance against an opponent that didn't tell me much.
Yeah, also Keyshawn Davis is rumored to be making that title defense against
Edwin De Los Santos in June in Norfolk.
So that'd be an interesting fight.
We had Jannebec score a big knockout in this Kazakhstan homecoming.
Didn't get a lot of pub, but it was a beautiful finish right there.
But look, this Saturday, we do have a card that I'm sure you're gonna be interested in.
It's gonna be on the zone and it be on the zone a title unification from In
are your odds according t
boots, Ennis will be a mi
the Lithuanian, the unbea
who is plus 4 50 the under
bring together the IBF and
at a time when this divis
some life here.
Luke, Boots got criticized a lot for that kind of lifeless performance last time out in that
unnecessary mandatory rematch with Chukotzin. Are you excited about what can happen here on Saturday,
which is without question the most dangerous fight of Boots' career? Yeah, I've been waiting for
Boots to get a dangerous tough opponent that forced him out of doing whatever he wants to know to get on in that last one. Or to case you
and however you want to say it, he did better than the first time where he just ran that
ran but you know, was on the outside the entire time. He kind of brought the fight to boots
a little bit more. But at the same time, you just you know, he's a good fighter, skilled
fighter, certainly, but wasn't likeots got really pushed. There were issues that emerged though from that PC, which was to what extent is Boots
somewhat lackadaisical about defense? I feel like Staniosus gives us another, not really another
chance to assess that, but to see to what extent that is a real liability against somebody who's
a better fighter and a championship level fighter at that.
So it's one of these fights where you're like, we've been kind of waiting for boots to round
the corner, round the corner, round the corner. This is not the name opponent. And there's other
levels beyond this, certainly. But this is definitely one of the more meaningful ones
in his career, maybe the most meaningful to date. Yeah. Staniosis is tough. He's strong.
He could take a punch. He gets inside and goes to the body. So it could be the type of style
that could corner and slow down Boots,
but we do know Boots is gonna have big advantages
in speed, athleticism, and just dynamic ability,
which is why the odds are where they are.
And just a reminder, the other two welterweight champions,
Brian Norman Jr. with top rank, Mario Barrios with PBC,
if we could see that relationship produce them
in a unification fight, and then have Boots, the winner of Boots, stand, Yose's fight the winner,
that could be interesting. Here is Boots talking to me on the BCX about that
criticism against him after a lackluster performance in kind of the
recent stretch leading up to this.
You know, nothing, nothing we never seen before, you know, come forward,
hands up high, try to jab, try to throw a lot of
punches. Like there's nothing we've never seen before. And like I said, I'm ready to
show the world why I'm the best in the world.
What do you plan on showing? Do you look at this fight and think you can out slick him
and almost not get touched or are you willing to go through him if you have to? Yeah, y'all gonna have to tune in on April 12th and see, you know, like I've been telling
everybody from before, don't get up to get no popcorn, don't go check the door, don't
nothing, just keep your eyes glued to the screen.
I love it.
I love it.
Well, look, I teed up the wrong clip there.
He would say about the controversy, that's my fault. He would say about the controversy in the criticism that
if you give me an elite opponent, you'll get an elite performance out of me. And you have to feel
for him not being able to get those tough challenges along the way. He's put some crowds
in Philly. He's done his job, but Saturday's the true close-up. I can't wait to see it.
Yeah, same. This is potentially the first step in a real important turn in his career.
I hope, I hope it goes well.
All right.
Those are our five topics for the week.
Now we transition to your questions,
because as you know,
every Sunday night at morning combat on X on Instagram,
we put out the call.
It's called DMs from the diggity dogs.
Oh,
Oh wow. We've asked for that to be replaced. I don't know the status of that. I think you're trolling us at this point, Luke. Our first question comes from Kyle JC
Wagner. Does landing zero significant strikes in a round merit a point deduction on the
basis of timidity? I think he's talking about Torres Finney here.
Look, if you're only gonna grapple,
you're not grounded pounding, you're not connecting,
should you automatically lose the round
or should you go as far as losing a damn point?
No, the question was automatically.
No, not automatically.
I could imagine a world where you get picked up
and slammed hard.
That would not be a case where they're landing
significant strikes,
but there's still damage being done.
So it'd be a weird one to do that for five minutes.
But the question was automatically.
No, not automatically.
I didn't see the word automatically in there.
Did you throw it up one more time?
OK, so you didn't say automatically.
I invented that. All right.
Does landing zero significant strikes in around merit?
So I'll say the answer is it could, it could, but okay, let me answer it this way.
I wouldn't automatically make it that way.
I would, it would have to be a case by case basis because you can have damaging offense
without it.
It's just a little bit weird and rare to do it that way.
All right, there you go.
Let's go to question number two from C Cody Sanders S.
Do you think last week's PFL event was better
than this week's past UFC Apex event?
Yes.
Yes, that's not even a very difficult question to answer.
Yes.
I would agree.
I mean, on paper you can argue,
but it's how it played out ultimately.
And it-
I mean, Lerone Murphy might be the best fighter on either of
those two cards. That's somewhat debatable. But that that's that
could potentially be true. But event to event, I mean, but
here's the thing, like, the PFL event was very good, but had its
limits. And that that UFC event was like, you know, of all the
good that UFC can do that was much closer to the bad of it. So
to me, it's like, yeah, did the PFL event surpass it?
I mean, it's not impossible for other events
to surpass UFC events.
It's just, they can't surpass it at the high end.
For sure.
Number three comes to us from frankfurter67.
This man must love the wiener.
Ben Slack in on my UFC watching.
What's the best upcoming fight to get excited for it?
Luke, everybody
knows what's loaded on 314. Do you want to answer beyond that? Or do we just say check
the 314 main card and get fired up? I mean, it has to be the 314 main card. It's just
such a good card. Beyond that, I mean, I'm still waiting on Ilya. I'm still waiting on
Islam. I think there's a couple of interesting fights on 315. Obviously the Ian Gary, Carlos
Brodges fights a big one.
I would go with that.
That's April 26th.
And then also you have Sanhagen versus Figuereta, which is a pretty damn good main event in
Iowa.
Great main event.
Yep.
It's another great one.
Also on that card, RDR versus Bo Nicol and the Coalmane.
That's not not fantastic.
Yep.
Fantastic.
So there's that.
I mean, dude, UFC puts on good fights.
Absolutely.
Are you feeling at all what I'm feeling for May 10th in Quebec when, uh,
Shevchenko and Farrow put it together at 125?
Nah, I'm not super pumped for that. I'm not, I don't hate it. I don't hate it.
I don't hate it, but I'm not like crazy pumped for it.
I appreciate your honesty there. Also, we have a question from Noah underscore
gosh show UFC one style round robin tournament, I'm going to go to the Yeah. And then unlikely, unlikely. Really? Yeah. Tyson Fury is possible.
Possible.
Yeah, possible.
I mean, Tyson Fury gets dominated here.
The real, the real wild card is Rico, isn't it?
The real wild card is Gordon.
Uh, I don't think Rico or Tyson have a shot in hell.
The question is Gordon, um, does he have a shot for submission in again?
Let me just be clear about this.
This was like submission grappling.
I picked Gordon, you know, easily.
I mean, it was very easy, but with strikes, it becomes a very, very
different, different ball game.
You don't think Rico could stuff a takedown and hurt these guys.
He has fought MMA.
I think he could, you know what, to that point?
Yeah, he could.
He's fought MMA.
I don't know how recently he's trained his wrestling or what it looks like today,
but you know, to the point you raise, he's done, he does have some MMA experience.
So that's something to count on as well.
And while Gables athleticism, physicality and wrestling are obviously assumed, we assume
that they'd be very good.
Can he take a punch?
You got to figure that out too.
You know, I mean, would you say Brock Lesnar couldn't, I mean, he could, he could take
a punch, but it would, it would change him in a fight quickly.
He lost composure under fire yes. Yes all right there you
go I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Gordon Ryan in the end yeah I think he
just makes it gross on the ground and gets the tap. Possible absolutely
possible. I mean if it's UFC one style there's no time on there right? Yeah I
mean you could do like the pride 10
minute rule. I mean, it's heavy weights. They're not going to go that long anyway. Whatever
the rules are, you know? Yeah. As long as Gordon is healthy, right? I think he's healthy
right now or health healthy enough. Uh, we have one more from a MT boobal thoughts on
Ovechkin breaking Wayne Gretzky's all time scoring goal scoring record. By the way, I
don't think anyone's going to touch Gretzky's assist or points record for a long, long time, but this is so
impressive. And then they want to know what other record in sports would you want to see broken?
So Luke, you touched on it earlier. I know there's a DC connection, but if you separate DC,
the fact that Ovechkin did it, I think in the same amount, isn't it the exact same amount of
games that Gretzky did? Same amount of games to break it. That's crazy because like LeBron James
crushed all these records, but he's got so many more games due to his longevity than a lot of his
contemporaries. Right, so he's got the scoring title or whatever, but you know he's been competing
since I was in college, you know it's's fucking insane. Um, it's amazing.
I didn't think it was possible.
They people in DC had been talking about this for like three or four seasons.
And I was three or four seasons ago, I should say.
And you know, he was like 30, he's 39 now.
So he was like 35, 36.
And you're like, ah, I don't know, man.
It might be slowing down.
His hair's getting gray and whatever, but he's had amazing longevity to,
to get to this place.
And what's kind of interesting for me is, you know, I grew up on the days like Peter
Bondra and whatnot, like old kind of capitals heroes, but I moved back to the city permanently
in December of 2004.
They drafted him in 2005.
They got April, they got the bid for it and then they drafted them later.
And so my entire time back, like the second kind of big chapter, because I remember I would lived here before and then my drafted them later. And so my entire time back like the second kind of big chapter,
because I remember I would live here before and then my parents were divorced. So I would be
constantly coming back, but I didn't live permanently here for quite some time. And then
I came back and then my entire like last 20 years of this chapter of my life, Ovechkin's been for
the capitals anyway, at the center of that experience. And I as good as he's been dude I just never do
I had to live with like the capitals kind of like failing to make you know enough like
to win he's won one Stanley Cup and there's been a bunch of times they bottomed out and
like there was a long time where like the talk of the league was Sidney Crosby Sidney
Crosby Sidney Crosby who's very very good obviously right I'm not I'm not shitting on
Sidney Crosby he can play but for Ovechkin, right? I'm not I'm not shitting on Sidney Crosby, he can play. But for a veteran
to just kind of keep chipping away at this in the way that he
did, dude, it just even there's a video that came out yesterday
of him an old interview where they asked him years and years
ago, do you think you can break that scoring title? He was like,
it's impossible. It's it'll never be done. It's impossible.
And then he fucking did it, man. It's crazy. It's amazing to
watch really, really quite remarkable, especially because you know, Gretzky did some gaudy totals in the eighties when
goal scoring was on fire before the prevalence of the left wing lock.
Luke.
Wow.
Did I just pull something?
Wow.
Uh, so it obviously Gretzky had a long career, but that's why his points
and assist totals are crazy.
So to compare here, Gretzky is the all time points, which obviously combines
goals and assists leader with 2,857.
The second place person is Jaromir Jagr,
who played deep into his 40s with 1,900.
So Gretzky has almost 1,000 more points
than the second place person in NHL history.
If you want to know where Ovechkin comes in,
he's 11th overall with 1,600 points.
And then particularly with the assists, Gretzky has over 1900 assists.
The next is Ron Francis with 1200.
So yeah, Ovechkin is a more limited player certainly than Gretzky, but
as you can see as a goal scorer, he is fucking awesome.
They asked that question.
What are the record in sports?
Would you like to see broken?
I bring this up the 100 points from Chamberlain,
well, Chamberlain in 1962.
I never thought somebody would get as close
as even Kobe's 81, but you know,
that game where he scored a hundred,
like they kept following, they kept throwing lobs to him
to try to get the record.
I don't know if you can do that in NBA game
without changing the competitive nature negatively
by like gratuitously forcing it in, right?
Or maybe with a three pointer, if you hit 25 threes, maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess you could.
I don't have a, I mean, I kind of like it that will still holds that, you know,
cause he was just fucking everything that moved.
Um, I'll say this BCR like other records.
I would love to see, I mean, we haven't't seen it since what 86 dolphins. What was the last time
an NFL team went undefeated 72 dolphin say again the 1972
dolphin 72 excuse me 72 dolphins where they went undefeated.
I don't know why I said 86 but 72 dolphins that went undefeated
but that was a when they had a shorter season now they've got
longer season. So our however many games it would be at this
point 18 plus the
playoffs basically 17 plus the playoffs anyway that I would
love to see I'd love to see someone go soup to nuts all the
way undefeated just so we can shut those motherfuckers from
Miami up a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah, I hear you on that 56 game hitting streak somebody will
get that eventually in baseball, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean even bonds is 73 home runs.
Eventually somebody's going to somebody's going to touch that. I would, I mean, they
play 170 do with these, with these fucking, what are they called? Torpedo bats? Yeah.
Have you seen these things? Oh, yeah. They got to change that. They got to know. Fuck
that. Leave it. Oh yeah. Dude. Every time someone is like, Hey, let's make baseball
more exciting. You've got dullards who go, Hey, let's make baseball more exciting.
You've got dullards who go, no, no, no, we need to make it shitty and slow. I'm like,
guys, that's absolutely not what we need to do. They're going to blow away the records
with bats like that. Great. Awesome. Can't wait. Oh God. This guy, Luke Thomas is unbelievable.
Look, before we get into my feces, uh, do you have any comments about the Conor McGregor
shit coin, uh, failing failing so miserable? How bad
is this motherfucker? Like in terms of his timing could not be
worse, right? World markets are just obviously in freefall. And
more to the point, like his star power is absolutely collapsed.
Man, as the question you have to ask yourself is BC. Does this
make it more likely he returns for a fight?
You would have to imagine that it would,
but at the same time, dude,
Chelsun and I think is right where it's like,
Connor comes back and they put him up against anybody good.
He's gonna get his ass whooped.
Like, I don't really know what's next for this guy.
If Patty beats Chandler,
it's gotta be Connor Patty in the UK.
It's gotta be, it's gotta be.
Why not Chandler?
Because he'll get knocked out by Chandler.
Oh, you think Patty is like, oh, I see. I see. Oh, because you
want to make it a more competitive fight. Yes. And I
want to give Patty the chance to get that huge star rub. What's
Chandler going to benefit from the rub of of beat him? You
know, yeah, let's use the place is almost 40. Like, who cares?
Right. And I think even if you give him to Elia Connor, which
like it would give him the rub,
but I don't think that's a competitive matchup. I think Ilya would absolutely stretch him.
Yeah, I agree with you. All right. It's time to pick the kernels out of my feces.
I scoured the internet for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly,
and the in-between in the worlds of combat sports and beyond to try to see if Luke Thomas
can lose his shit. This is called HYSTS. I have you seen this before
I have you seen this before
I have you seen this before
Luke, BKFC had a double header in Dubai
over two days on this weekend
and it gave Conor McGregor speaking of
the chance to wild out.
Let's watch this chick weigh in that ended in violence
and check out the phoner
that Conor McGregor brought to those shorts.
For the inaugural BKFC Women's World Featherweight
Championship, Anna Rankin and Jessica Barga.
All right, let me get a word first, Jessica.
Look, imagine a promoter in another big combat sport
showing up in like tight running shorts,
just, you know, erected shit after two chicks brawled
and on the scale.
Speak KFC, dude.
I don't, you know.
All right.
Well, after the event-
I just gotta take it for what it is.
Connor tried to Mac these two ladies in the lobby
and it looked like he went 0 for 2.
Let's listen in.
Is there sound?
There was supposed to be, but just so you know,
Connor's yelling, I'm from an island in Ireland.
I'm from an island in Ireland.
And these chicks are like, yeah, whatever guy,
get away from me.
It was weird, Luke.
It was really weird.
Dublin is an island is an island.
Dude, you got, I can't explain this man. Okay.
But here's Connor also at the club after the first night of events.
What do you think about that?
Luke.
I mean, it's, is it sad or comical right now? Where are you at on this?
I don't have great sympathy for him, but it is kind of sad, you know?
Yeah, there we go, there we go.
It's like, here's the thing.
I don't mind the guy partying or whatever,
like it's his life, you know,
but to me it's like the amount of partying
seems overwhelming.
And the fact that he's getting in trouble
with the law on top of it kind of tells you it's probably part of a broader set of things he's doing to himself that are destructive, you know, and I think that's the part where you're just like, God damn man, like this, the dude who won the I'm telling you the dude who won at UFC 205 is gone. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Well, a fan apparently tried to attack Connor inside the arena after the first BKFC event in Dubai
Let's watch this. It's gonna be on the left of Connor as he's meeting the fans and signing autographs
Did you see this piece of business Luke?
See I did not see this
and
The security team gives it to the fan as we'll see in the end here
So it's the guy right there in the white shirt. I believe
No, that guy in the black shirt. Yeah, look. Oh, yeah. Oh dude. They fuck him up proper
Man, you know, you're gonna get stomped out trying some shit like that
Yeah
Oh, he got it looks like he got a drink poured on the back of his jacket too. But watch this guy's face coming up here
Which one is it? You won't be able
to miss it shortly. If we get there, we might get there. We'll get there. Hang on. He's
trying to play peacemaker here. You got some some gordita in the ring there. Oh yeah. Oh
yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, they got him good. They got him good. Uh, Luke, do you know,
speaking of future president, Conor McGregor of Ireland fame, there are people out there who
believe he can win the election. Do you know this? I don't know enough about the Irish system to
say confidently, but from what I've heard, it seems like a long shot. Well, let's hear.
There's somebody that believes to fight and it's running for president of Ireland.
I like everyone's like, you don't have a chance, you know what they're doing.
Like, buddy, did you not learn from the Trump shit?
You don't have to have a background in politics these days.
Politics are not what you grew up with as a kid.
It's not your dad's politics.
Usually the most famous guy wins.
Yeah, but he has this dark history.
Did you not learn from Trump?
He has some shit in his background too. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
People just want to change. You're not voting for him to marry your daughter.
You just vote on something different. That's all it is. No one gives a fuck.
And they're going to run on that and try and smear his name. None of that works.
Look, um, that's an interesting take. He went on to say that
we do skits and bits here.
No, he went on to say that he doesn't know a lot about
Ireland, but he believes Connor can minute can win it. Let's go
to the Ireland tabloids. They did a poll.
They Yeah, they don't think it.
And 90% felt that
there was a report from I think Sky News and there is actually a couple of ways that he could get
nominated and one of which is that enough members of Parliament have to essentially agree to nominate him and they there's
234 they asked all
234 now they didn't get a response at all one way or the other from a hundred of them
But of the 134 who did respond, every single one of them said they would
not support it every single one.
So that was an update from 2023 where 89% said they would not support it.
And now that's gone up to 90 following the civil rape trial.
So interesting stuff there.
I like the attribution wasn't actually his show, but it was the Reddit.
Hey, wherever we have some, uh, let's go to regional MMA. Luke, where, what? was actually his show but it
days, kick them in the balls, kick them in the face, each shit.
There you go.
There it is. Tell you, bro, you fight regional MMA or even regional kickboxing.
You're taking your life into your hands, brother.
Make no mistake about it.
The following clip is the wildest 60 seconds you'll see in regional MMA.
Check out this sequence.
Okay.
Overhand, right?
Let's see.
Okay.
Oh, he's just unloading guys covering up.
He's moving.
He's moving.
Oh, he's getting hit. Oh, okay. Let's see. Oh, he's just unloading guys covering up. He's moving. He's moving. Oh, he's getting hit. Oh
Okay, let's see. Oh, he's gonna he's gonna get knocked out. Isn't he the guy punching? It's wild it gets wilder
Look at that. He's doing he's doing those overhand like the standing hammer fists. That's always a bad sign
Yeah, but the tides about to turn McGregor of Diaz one style here Luke. Oh
the tide is about to turn McGregor DS1 style here Luke.
Oh man.
Did this guy's dirt all spinning back fist. Okay.
All right.
Our back elbow.
Excuse me.
Punch punch.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
It's good.
He's coming back.
Let's see.
I mean, it's not the best technique, but it's wild, you know,
this is regional MMA dude. This will have.
So now the guy who was getting dealt is dealing.
Oh, that is Luke would say.
Good Lord.
Dude.
Wow.
All right.
Hey, let's go to the regional karate scene.
Luke, have you seen a KO like this before?
Bop bop.? Oh he did he he turned him into
a heroin addict on the on the
on the Alphabet City. You're
damn right he did. Wow. Bob.
Do they send him face first to
the canvas? That's when you
know it's bad. Well, not all
regional craziness happens in a
cage. Luke, let's go to Latin
American baseball. Oh, oh, he's starting with the bat. Oh, good lord. Halfway swung
it. Where is this Dominican? I don't know. It looks like it's, uh, could be, could be
Mexico. I'm not really, you know, that, that well in on it, but wow, that's my BP versus
VCL. I don't know who that is. That's some violent ish right there.
All right, Luke. This is probably the worst day in this truck driver's life, right?
Oh shit. Oh, yo, yo, show that one again. Show that one again.
Yo, Optimus Prime was like, get the fuck out of my car, bitch.
All right, it's time for your falls of the week let's check in on this
rent a cop. You fucking. Oh let's keep it going they tell you not to play with fire
kids. Look you ever do stuff like this as a teenager? Yeah, of course. I've done all that stupid shit.
What does my guy here do?
Fall in it?
No?
All right.
All right.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Why don't you fall in that fat guy?
Why don't you stop, drop, and roll?
All right.
Let's check in on some drunk chicks.
They always fall for us.
The giant connect four bit.
I play this one at this local bar I go to.
Oh, you know, white girls falling over at the bar.
I've never seen that before.
No, no, no. Let's go to the airport.
You know, if you've seen this before.
Hey, you know what?
Why don't we fire more airline personnel?
Because I'm sure we got the best and brightest right there right now.
You got to be careful climbing trees, too.
Let's see this gentleman.
Is he going to jump from this?
Yeah, he wants you up, you fucking bitch ass Lord.
Oh, boy. Wow.
The these guys fall from these fucking heights,
and it looks like a fucking ECW match.
You know what I mean?
Look, like looks like New Jack and Vic Grimes jumping off the top of a scaffolding. Yeah. Wow. That's hard to believe. I'm not going to get that garbage. You know what I mean?
Like, looks like New Jack and
Vic Grimes jumping off the top
of a scaffolding. Yeah. Wow.
That's hard to believe.
Paralyzing. You're like, was it
worth it? I don't think that it
was, you know? No, not really.
Not really. Alright, Luke. Uh
this kid is going to have a
future. Check this out. Wow.
It's going to be a dark future
though, Luke. Is that sugar? It
is. You know, that kid's mom is going to have all what? That's I'm about to get high as fuck off the sugar. Luke, you love two things on this show,
scorpions and gym fails.
Let's put them together.
I believe I can fly.
Okay. He goes, you're gonna swing, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh shit. Here we go.
I'm gonna go with the I believe I can fly. Okay. He's going to swing, right? Yeah.
Yeah. Oh **** Here we go. Oh, wow. I don't know if he lived
Luke. We may have to add that to the circus performer with the
snake. Somebody hit the Lunk Alarm at Planet Fitness. He had
a boo boo. Luke, I've been planning ideas for Tukey's next birthday party.
Give me a thumbs up or thumbs down on this one.
All right.
Was a human shit.
What is this?
Dude, what the fuck?
What AI shit is this?
I think it was real Luke.
Wow.
Just try to traumatize these children.
What the fuck are we doing?
No, I think Luke. Wow. Just try to traumatize these children. What the **** are we doing? Oh, I think so. Wow.
Uh Luke, let's look back on greatest days in Magic Johnson
history. You think that was the day Luke?
Well, you know, could you say it was a bad day? You could say
it was a mixed bag, you know, it could have been that day
though, alright, let's get. Yeah, that seems like a possibility. Uh, speaking of
magic, it's time to head to the hard word for some March
madness. So, you know, these halftime, uh, spectacles where
they bring civilians in and you can make a couple of shots.
Okay. You know, win money.
Yeah. This is why he's not in the Marine Corps.
Just a bit outside. I mean, come on, like,
you're like, how good are the athletes in the arm services?
And I'm like, it depends entirely on their MOS. Yes. Yes. And whether they have a train ticket for,
for Osborne or not. Also, Luke, check out this youth hoops fight between, uh, just watch it.
So there's a hard fall right there. You see that in the corner. What the yo mom comes out but dad's going to come out in a second. Get ready
for this. Boom. Oh. Plowed him. Damn. He got jacked up there.
That is wild and Luke, you know, when you get hot in NBA
Jam, you are on fire. Check out these Darwin Award winners.
Oh, he made it. I mean, can we just arrest these guys? Can we the I mean, there's, I'd wear that.
There's better things you can be doing with your time than this, right?
No, I'd wear that.
Are you kidding?
All right.
Would you, the question is, would you, would you be, see, would you banger?
That's, that's, that's really the, I'll tell you on our Patreon after show.
Let's go to this next guy.
We can call him the golden boy.
I'm actually into this.
Luke, it's a little Cisco esque, right?
Yeah. You know what? My man is quite literally shining. Yes. Yes. this next guy. We can call him the golden boy. I'm actually into this. Luke, it's a little
Cisco-esque, right? Yeah, you
know what? My man is quite
literally shining. Yes. Yes.
Quite quite literally. Look at
that taper. That taper's sick
too. I like that. Uh finally,
Luke. Uh some people call this
art. Other people call it
offensive. What is your, what
are your thoughts? Oh my
**** god.
Enough of that. Hey, let an end to it right now.
Look, that's it. Okay. No more.
No more on there. I'll go over
to the the next clip. What do
we got here? Brazilian soccer
tunnel. Maybe we can rethink
the design, Luke. Yeah, they
didn't have to come out of a
vagina. That probably was the
bad idea. Luke, kids say and do
the darnedest things. Let's
check out the brazilian soccer
tunnel. Look, I'm going to put a I'm going to put an end to it out of a vagina that probably was the bad idea.
Luke kids say and do the darnedest things let's check out this clip. I don't really understand those stickers that say baby on board because what is this supposed to do
what's the point because like the only thing that I can think of when I see that is
the lady driving must have some milk bags on her.
You know what I mean? Look is that Jake Vaughan Amsterdam by the way? That looks like somebody
who would work on this show yes. Yes all right I meant to say this is the clip
where kids do the darndest things. Okay all right we're dancing we're dancing. We're dancing. Why
guys? Oh, is that New
Orleans? Where was it? Yeah,
that looked like it. Alright,
uh let's go over to the toy
horse.
I'm dead. I don't know why
this is my life.
Look, they have weight limits on those. I noticed as soon as Big Bertha got on that and the baby was sitting behind her where this was going.
And finally Luke you can find influencers for everything.
Look I'm not handy with my car.
I have no idea how to change my own oil but that's why I follow people like this.
Hi my name is Stacey and today I'm going to show you how to change an oil.
So first, I'm actually not Stacey, and I don't know how to fucking change an oil, but for
$7.99 a month you can see my...
That's the shit of the week, I hope you saw it.
Wow.
Do we happen to have her contact information? I'm going to do it. Wow.
Do we happen to have her
contact information? I have
follow up questions that can
only be answered one
particular way. Well, I spit
all over the microphone. Hey,
today's episode of morning
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worst part is like if she had a
kid, she off the money she's
making for OnlyFans, she'd be
able to put them through
college. No problem. Whereas you and I have to fucking sweat it out.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
We want to make it honest living out here.
We have to show her clips to make money.
It's unbelievable, right?
Basically.
Wow. Yeah, basically.
All right, Luke, that's the show for the week.
I think we gave them a great effort,
but it's time to go home now.
Yes, it is.
I mean, listen, we, you know,
we have to work with Emmett versus Murphy as our anchor.
I mean, what can you do with that?
But hey, Wednesday,
got a totally different ball game going on. Wednesday, live at 11 a.m. in the East. Your boy, BC LT.
Well, J.M. I guess we can call him an MK altogether going to get you ready for the
best card in quite some time. USC 314. Yeah, guess what? We're not going to do on Wednesday
complain. We're just going to drink Cuervo and have a great time. So
check us out at 11 a.m. Eastern. Thank you for supporting this show.
Long Island Luke, can you say goodbye to the people at all?
Goodbye people. Look out for my bet breakdown coming out this today,
actually. UFC 314. Looking forward to that. There it is. And Wednesday.
Oh, and I'm doing No Bets Bared with Jed this week for MMA Fighting.
So tune into that. Yeah.
Not bad.
We're launching his career. He's going to take over and surpass us, BC.
Probably. And also, look, I saw that you're on submission radio breaking down that card
as well. So shout out to Dennis there as well.
I am. I am.
All right. For Luke and Luke, it's your boy BC. Take care of yourselves. We will see you
on Wednesday. Don't miss it. 314 is coming and so will we. We're outta here.
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield
in Bone Valley Season One.
Every time I hear about my dad,
it's, oh, he's a killer.
He's just straight evil.
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott
and the son he'd never known.
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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