MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Vegas 110: Garcia vs. Onama Recap | Cortes-Acosta KOs Delija & Dulgarian-Del Valle Odds Shift

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

LT and BC are back in the studio on a Morning Kombat Monday, going through all the latest headlines from the weekend in combat sports! In Saturday's UFC Fight Night main event, featherweight Steve Gar...cia bulldozed David Onama in minutes to claim his seventh win in a row. What, if anything, did we learn about Garcia? What happened in the co-main event between Ante Delija and Waldo Cortes-Acosta? The guys break down the fight. Also, there was strangeness surrounding the Isaac Dulgarian vs. Yadier del Valle bout. The odds on Dulgarian changed dramatically in the hours before the fight and Dulgarian ultimately lost a first-round bout via submission without much resistance. What does any of this mean? All this and more to discuss on this edition of MK!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. Oh, my God. It's us doing what we love. It's time to bang. Oh, yeah, I'll get fired up. It's Monday, November 3rd, 20205. And this is Morning Combat, the Combat Sports Show to end all other shows. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Hey, I'm Brian Campbell, live and director in Manhattan's Metal Arc Studios. And next to me is my co-op. host with the most. He is a D.C. resident with the least amount of sleep. A native of India. Not the old deli, the new one. It's Luke Thomas. Yeah. You ever heard that cattle decapitation song finish them? Yes. They do when they close the show with that. Wow. Well, the opening words, fire. Fire. I, yeah. It warms the cockles of my heart. Yes, yes. Keyword cock. Thank you. Thank you very much. Hey, we got a weird show for you today, as always, right?
Starting point is 00:01:32 It was UFC warehouse. What is it not weird? To be honest. Well, it was a weird UFC warehouse card over the Saturday at the apex, which turned into eye poaks, failed parlays. The FBI might be getting involved. I don't know what. And also, I don't want to, like, bury the part of the story here, too, which is poor Steve
Starting point is 00:01:49 Garcia. Yeah. He had a night. He had a night. Steve Garcia, the odds were relatively close, if I recall, for the main event. He walked Onama down. He took him to the woodshed. Battered him, and not a soul is taught.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I mean, we're going to talk about it today, but basically nobody's talking about it. Well, it's the only thing we have to talk about outside of anyone associated with James Krause. Can I tell you a Halloween was a big success? Oh, the Tukes. In the Thomas household. Yes. The in-laws from Columbia flew up.
Starting point is 00:02:17 We had a bunch of them there. How is there Ablo Anglese? So the ones who flew up all speak. That's not always the case, but in this particular case it was. Okay. One was a little shaky, but not a big. If you get angry, you can't, like, drop an MF or and they wouldn't know what you're talking about. Oh, I can curse in Spanish.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Oh, yeah. No, no, it was cursing English to their face where they think you're being able. Oh, no, they'll know. I mean, I mean, unless I had some kind of like brain rot, six, seven or some bullshit like that, they wouldn't know. But anyway, dude, we, it worked. My daughter was, it was, maybe you told me. My daughter was Mira from K-pop Demon Hunters. Of course.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Who doesn't know that? The stat, dude. If you had a little kid, you would know, trust me. It was funny because there was a bunch of mirrors who walked by on. the street and my daughter was ice grilling them being like yo who the fuck gave this bitch permission oh shit to be another mirror i was she didn't say that but that was a look she had anyway it was a huge success and uh thanks to all my friends who showed up and thanks to all the people who were nice to my daughter for many i didn't get a single single trick or treater and i loved
Starting point is 00:03:19 it it was great are you hanging fucking you know i don't know dead animals in your no no but unfortunately it led to my family ingesting just a disgusting disgusting A amount of candy that was left over. Can I tell you the biggest fat guy move? I've not pulled the trigger on it yet, but I'm so tempted. Is it involve an energy drink? It could. Did you guys know on Uber Eats, you can Uber Eats movie theater refreshments from the movie theater?
Starting point is 00:03:47 So you can get a big-ass popcorn. What's your go-to-the-popcorn and the slushy? I'm a slushy guy. I don't do the popcorn. Unless I have the option of the hole in the bottom and you're like you're on a hot day. that, I mean, it's a little bit. Hold on, what's your go-to for food? Raisin'uts, and I love getting the icy,
Starting point is 00:04:05 even though it's like 15,000 calories. Whatever it is, you can get that shit delivered now. And I was like, oh, do I dare? But I didn't. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, see, when I was growing up, we weren't allowed to get movie theater food because it was so overpriced, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:17 So you had to go to, like, Cumberland Farms and, like, get four candies eat and sticklingling that in. Like a drug mule? That's what I'm talking about. That prepared me for my future life right there. We're going to have a show for you today That may be interesting I did have to prep Luke
Starting point is 00:04:30 That my batch of shit this week I don't think it's up to par I hope it passes the test Why is your shit so mediocre today Well everyone sends me the same clips That we've already played for years And you know I do my own research But there just there wasn't a lot of great clips
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Starting point is 00:05:10 in agony someone autotunes them so they sound like T-Pain Yes yes I watched about an hour of those yesterday That was fun Do you enjoy this cornucopia of What do you call these gourds?
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Starting point is 00:08:52 until the end of time if it's up to me, because now is a good time, ever to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila thank you very much yeah all right luke anything else you want to tell the public about you any latest medical diagnosis or anything um i had to take a bunch of allergy medicine because my nose sealed shut last night but other than that no one gives a fuck okay okay amtrak no delays today no delay 15 minute delay getting out of the gate this morning from dc yeah yeah but my favorite umtrak employee was there to cheer me up with is this the lady that once stated that you had body for days? This is the
Starting point is 00:09:28 same one. They moved her out and they moved her back so she's back to ogling. Do you think she just likes your size or you're Armenian? I don't know. That's a good question. I don't think the viewers listeners care, but it's real. It is real. It's an attraction.
Starting point is 00:09:46 All right, hey, you know what? I'm attracted to cage fighting. So let's hit it off here with topic number one. Hey, everybody in Saturday's UFC Fight Night Warehouse main event. It was a battle of top 15 ranked featherweights to, at least in theory, produce another contender eventually for this title in a division that is turning over. While you need the contender, we might have one here in 33-year-old New Mexican Steve Garcia
Starting point is 00:10:11 who bulldozed right through David O'Nama within minutes to claim not just his seventh win in a row, but his sixth knockout on that stretch, giving him 14 knockouts and 19 career wins, but more importantly, knocking on the door now of the top 10 and legitimate title contention here at the 1-4-5. Luke, the South Paul came out throwing heavy combos when he had Onama hurt, stepped up the uppercuts and he got him out of there. So what, if anything, did we learn about Garcia on Saturday? Can we, long on look, we put up on the screen some of the stats from our friend.
Starting point is 00:10:47 This is, by the way, you guys don't know the guy at the top of the screen, Michael Carroll, that's MJC flipped the script. he is a what they used to call fight metric now they call 3027 the guys behind the stats at UFC this is one of the top guys if you don't follow him you should you get a lot of cool information look at this most featherweight knockouts where does Steve Garcia rank just behind Chad Mendez and ahead of doho Choi I'm not saying that the run is exactly equivalent but the amount of just we've talked about this before just the ability to string that many wins together give you that stat where he's number one all time in differential in
Starting point is 00:11:20 power and then longest action active UFC win streaks at featherweight, where is Steve Garcia at six? Seven fight with UFC win streak overall, because I think the other one was a contender series, if I'm not mistaken. In any event, look what he's doing. He's doing some of the most impressive work of literally anyone in this division at the present moment. That doesn't put him at the top of the division, but his streak is simply undeniable.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I do think that, you know, we were trying to hedge on Friday because we wanted to give respect to Onama. Sure. But I think what we talked about on Friday ended up being true. Is it not the case? Do you not feel like watching Garcia? Do he just knocks on the door so many times? Eventually, you're going to answer and get caught with something.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Onama, to me, if you don't get him off your porch, someone's getting pregnant. That's right. You've got to tell him no passing out flyers on property. Because once he steps on there, you're buying whatever he's selling. No solicitation. That's right. No solicitation. It honestly is true.
Starting point is 00:12:16 He'll throw hand and foot combinations. He'll add a little extra. He finishes with a hook. You know, he inside cut kicks and then adds. He's always stacking things on top of the original offense that he throws because if the first or the second or even the third thing doesn't work, the fourth just might. You marry that with the pressure that you talked about BC. Dude, he just buzz sought him.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Pop quiz, how many strikes total, significant or otherwise, did David Onama land in this fight? I'd guess four. Two. Wow. Two. He landed two. 43 total for Steve Garcia, 33 of which were significant, meaning there was a approximate a distance there. Dude, that is, I mean, this is a shalacking by any measurement, statistical or
Starting point is 00:12:56 observational. Let me ask you this. As great of a night if it was as it was for Garcia, it was equally as bad for Onama who'd never got out of first gear. Was that because he chose to counter and start late? Or did he just get straight up overwhelmed by what Garcia brought to the table? So I think this was a problem I'd seen in previous fights. Because this was a five-round fight for two guys that had never headlined before. That's right. This is something that I had seen in previous fights, but I thought that he was outgrowing it, where he takes, I'm not, you can call him a slow starter, but I think a better way to describe it, BC is he's just a little bit more judicious with his offense. He can throw a lot in volume sometimes,
Starting point is 00:13:33 but he sometimes takes a little bit longer to set it up and really commit, whereas Garcia doesn't do that. He has a, he, one of the things that's very impressive about Steve Garcia to me is he's able to find offensive rhythm very quickly, right? it doesn't take him a while to kind of settle into it. He seems to, like, land in the groove without much friction, about a minute, minute 30, and he's already in play. Plus, he's a devastating finisher. His finishing instincts are phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:14:01 All uppercuts were on point. And he can cover distance with them, too. He's kind of arranging with that, which can get you into trouble, but it certainly didn't in this fight. So I just mean, he seems to understand the moment, which I really appreciate it about him. He understands that this is an offense-first sport. He acts like it. And for David Onama, you can play that game plan that he does if you're someone like Izzy
Starting point is 00:14:20 where you're really deterring them either with strikes or feints or movement or you can just command range a little bit better. Onama doesn't do that as well. And you saw what happened as a consequence. Wow. Long Island Luke reminding us that it's a six-fight win should get featherweight because the Melky Coasta fight was a one-off at lightweight. So overall, we are seeing such a breakthrough for Garcia going from the cater decision win to now
Starting point is 00:14:45 a, look, this is what you want to, this is what you ask of guys who are in the headlining spot for the first time. And while this was a little bit of who's that guy, if you weren't a hardcore fan, or maybe even if you were, it's great that Steve Garcia told you exactly who he is in less than one round, as you would say after the fight, you know, what do you say? My daddy told me to go bring violence in there. So I had to listen to him, ultimately at the end of the day. A New Mexico guy, an Albuquerque guy, Johnson Wink, right? Jackson Wink, excuse me, in the corner with him. That's right. Along with his father as well. So at 33, as we talked about on Friday, it took him a little while to get in gear.
Starting point is 00:15:20 He lost two of his first three UFC fights. But the escalation has been perfect. Did he show you with a win on Saturday that will likely propel him into the top 10, that he's a future title contender, Luke? I think that's getting a little bit ahead of ourselves right now. You don't know what you don't know until you see it. Yeah. I mean, listen, he's currently sitting at 12. They haven't updated the rankings, right? So they will. But, you know, ahead of him would be Patricio, at least as it stands presently, Patricio, Jayon Silva, Josh Emmett, Brian Ortega, Yusuf Salal.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Dude, there are a lot of names in front of him. I mean, he's got, he's got work to do. This was a great win to get inside the top 10, which he and Onama had kind of prefaced, or I should say, expected on during fight week. They had said as much. This was about getting into the top 10. Mission accomplished.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Here's what I can say, BC. He's earned a fight with someone where you're not, not going to have the same reaction you did in this fight. We're like, okay, Steve Garcia, I'm kind of excited about him. Yeah, I respect Onama, but I don't know what this fight is. His next opponent's going to have a name. It's going to have extra juice.
Starting point is 00:16:24 He's earned it. You can't say anything other than this guy did everything he was supposed to and then some. He has earned the right to fight someone that fans can be invested in. Yeah, I mean, I'm in. I want to see more of it. Here's Garcia talking about. Now, he did call Max Holloway for the BMF title in the cage. Here's him further after the fight talking about, obviously,
Starting point is 00:16:45 with uh max being a lightweight but that's a bmf fight uh here's who he wants next within the division you call that max holloway if you don't get that fight is there someone else in the top 15 that that you like to throw hands with yeah man i think i think the i think one fight that makes a lot of sense is probably josh emett i mean he he has a he has a name on him he definitely is uh uh has a higher ranking than i do and i kind of felt like i think he's available so why not you know what i mean let's try to set something up you know beginning of an next year I think that'd be that'd be a fun fight shoot for the I'll fight is the law that's not that's not the issue the whole thing is is
Starting point is 00:17:21 name recognition you know I know I know Zala just beat Emmett did did a fantastic job of that but I still feel like Emmett may have a little bit more name value than maybe Zal you know what I mean let means means a probably cross past there's no doubt about it I just fought his teammate you know what I mean so he's probably already game planning to a fight fight me at some point if we if it happens it happens you know what I mean I'm not I'm not scared of anybody I'll go out there and I'll fight you know whoever I'll fight them I'll fight three people in a night
Starting point is 00:17:49 I don't care if that's what they want me to do that's what I'll do but the only reason why I say M is because like I said he has name recognition he's I like that call out okay veteran name power name value now there's a lot fight though could maybe take them to the top faster by the way both of those fights can you say they'd be anything other than bangers no because like we didn't fight on Friday you got two guys who are deserved right now of a title shot that's lorone Murphy and that's evil oev but you've got that next group of aljo of zalai of who my, who was the third that I'm forgetting. I've got the rankings here.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So you got Arnold Allen, Sterling, Ronald Allen was the third one at that point. Everyone else seems to be sort of a retread on the way back. Yeah, because then it goes Ortega, Emmett, Jay on Silva, Patricio. Yes, Jay and Silva's the other wild card in there, which we expect him to bounce back. But interesting stuff, that would be,
Starting point is 00:18:34 look, I hope he gets a quick turnaround too. I hope they put him like on a pay-per-view card in a key spot dealing with that power of Emmett with that style. That'd be fun to see. Yeah. No, I mean, again, there's a bunch of different. I like that call out.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I like the Zalalal fight. The Max Holloway won. So I didn't love it because I thought that would have to be a lightweight, but you're saying we're going to hear differently. I believe he called him out. He wants it at 45, but it doesn't mean. But Max don't fight at 45 anymore. What are you going to say there, Long Island?
Starting point is 00:18:59 You're going to say something? I was just throwing up the tweet for you. Oh, there it is. Steve Garcia calls out Max Holloway for a BMF title fight, calling it the Rocky Balboa story. Quote, I want the Rocky Balboa story. I want the one with Max Holloway in the BMF title. I want that BMF Max Holloway champion.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Did he clarify at 55? I mean, it doesn't really matter. He didn't, but why would Max cut back down for that? Yeah, it makes no sense. I think he mistakenly thought Max was still at 45. Oh, I see. Okay. That's where I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:19:24 There are a lot of fighters who don't seem to follow the fight game. You notice that? Like, like. They fight as an occupation, but they're not fight. They follow their own game. Yeah. But they're not fight fans. They don't follow the sport at all.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I mean, I kind of respect that actually. Yeah, maybe they're not missing much. I don't know right there. But, look, we have respect for your takes as well. impressed for you by Garcia. All right, I've been impressed with Garcia for a while now, so I don't want to say I wasn't impressed with him. I was, to me, it was more, oh, God, what is wrong with David Onama? I felt like he was just not himself out there. Don't you feel like, though, that in retrospect, we should have, we did see that we will, I think we all thought
Starting point is 00:20:02 Garcia was going to win, but I'm saying, in retrospect, shouldn't we have seen that Garcia's forward pressure, knock on the door style of offense would be a bad matchup actually for O'Nama in the end. Sure. I think the fact that it was five rounds, the fact that O'Nama had never been finished before were making me a little weary because I'm like, oh, if Steve Garcia can't get him out of there, how does this look after five rounds? But he very clearly showed
Starting point is 00:20:23 he could get him out of there. Well, I think O'Nama got hurt by that first left hand. And he got wobbled. And I think he was playing catch up the rest of that round until the stoppage. Unfortunately for him, he had a four-fight, windstreet coming in, had one six to seven. The only lost was that majority decision lost fight of the night to Nate the train.
Starting point is 00:20:39 so yeah he kind of just got buzz sod it was what it was Garcia is the living embodiment of Fortune favors the bold I mean that is who he is that's how he fights against a skilled operator who knows how to deal with pressure now that's going to be a different story right I think that's where we're going to have to really see what he's made of I mean what which man to Arnold Allen would be a tough fight for
Starting point is 00:21:02 that's a tough fight that's a very tough fight Arnold Allen knows how to absorb pressure dude what is going on with Arnold Allen in front of the program but like I'm not sure is he not healthy like, because I feel like he's tweeting up a storm. I feel like he should have already fought for a title. I know he had key losses to both Eve Lowe and Max Holloway, in which the Max Holloway one, he fought his heart out. Yeah, you know, really, if he only hadn't surged in the fifth round
Starting point is 00:21:23 and started in the fourth round, he may have won that fight. But it feels like it's not that he's the uncrown champion, but that he's the uncrown key contender that has yet to fully get that opportunity. Yeah, I'm not sure what to say about it, except, I mean, maybe get Pacer to put a little more of them Zingers in you. A little bit of fans of Facebook. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Thank you very much right there. So, like, exciting main event in which the bigger headlines were eye holes and A-holes. But, yeah, here we go here. Hey, it's not just MMA that's heating up right now. If you can put the camera back on me, thank you. The NBA season is rolling right now. In fact, picture it rolling. And it's 500 bends, right?
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Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah, I'm not a Kill'em All type guy. I'm an And Justice for All. Obviously, everyone knows the story. They turned the bass down because Cliff had died and they replaced them. Jason Neustead and they wanted to minimize it. And so to me that takes away something
Starting point is 00:24:09 from the album a little bit. However, however, top to bottom, that album has more bangers than it gets credit. Short of straw. Oh, absolutely. A harvester of sorrow. Yeah. Harvester of sorrow is one of the best fucking songs. Wow, that's one of the rare spots that we meet in the middle. Also, do you remember the music video for one? Yes, I do. Oh, my God. So good. And that riff, right?
Starting point is 00:24:31 Oh, yeah, come on. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Let's go to topic number two here. Annie up. Well, Annie down as well. What a wild heavyweight co-main event there on Saturday night in the warehouse. Antidealia. Hey, is he going to deliver a second straight knockout and put himself closer to making this heavyweight title picture more difficult with his teammate Tom Aspinall at the top?
Starting point is 00:24:55 No, he didn't. Even though it looked like he scored a TKO stoppage along the cage against Waldo Cortez Acosta. There was an eye poke in the midst of that. It's what happened next that was, let's say it, bizarre, maybe even against the rules. How bizarre. But referee Mark Smith looked like he was jumping in and waving off the fight near the end of round one. You had the corners, the cut men in the cage, the cage side doctor, only ultimately the fight was not ruled over. It was restarted.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And once it was restarted, Waldo Cortez Acosta uncorked just a beautiful looping counter right hand that dropped Delia. and quickly led to a knock-out finish. So is it not clear the commission didn't obey the rules here? Is this what probably should have happened, even if the way that we got there didn't really clear protocols? LT, how do you sort of weigh in here on one of the more bizarre things? Because I got some people saying, well, Smith never waved it off. Look like you freaking waved it off, okay?
Starting point is 00:25:56 And while I'm happy that they got it right, you got to give Waldo credit for being dramatic, but I'm not even sure how many rules they broke on the way to get in there. Dude, how weird is this situation that Ante Delea, or Delia, excuse me, I know we keep saying it wrong, who is the teammate of Tom Aspinall. Tom Aspinall has this terrible controversy where he gets pegged to somebody who quits in fights, right?
Starting point is 00:26:19 And don't forget what Delea said during Media Day this week. Oh, yeah, I was going to get right to it, which is he's like, I've had 33 fights. I've never poked someone in the eye. And the very next fight, just days later, he pokes someone in the eye and then gets finished as a consequence. Worse, the guy who got poked in the eye
Starting point is 00:26:35 decided to continue and then won via knockout, making Tom Aspinall, whether it's fair or not. I'm not saying it's fair. I'm just saying from a perception standpoint for those who wish to see it this way, a terrible look for Tom Aspinall. And they're dunking on him. Aljo's dunking on him.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Hard. Dude, Tom Aspinall has suffered, it's kind of funny, right? Like, he was maybe due for a correction because he was surfing off of the John Jones ducking thing for so long. but now he has to stand on his own two feet. And again, we've been over this a million times.
Starting point is 00:27:04 He's just kind of struggled with it, whether that was a fair perception or not. Okay, putting that aside, BC, that's just, let's just talk about that being weird as shit already, in terms of the coincidence of it all. Then we get to the point, how is that what Delea did, Delia, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:27:20 how is that intervention by the referee there anything other than a TKO? I don't understand it. And if it was a TKO, how the hell can you restart it? Hello, you cannot. I guess they're saying officially it wasn't one, even though they kind of treated it like one.
Starting point is 00:27:36 More to the point, as Aaron Bronseter pointed out on Twitter, even if it wasn't a TKO, Mark Smith, the referee, had brought in people into the cage. They acted like the fight or the round was over. Who was not allowed to be there. So to me, it's like, listen, having watched it, right? Because here's what you're up against. If you just watch it and you don't know the.
Starting point is 00:27:58 rules. And I said to you, oh yeah, it looks like this fight was over, but the guy got poked in the eye. They want to do right by him and let the fight continue. You might be tempted to say these terms are acceptable. I was in the moment. I'm like, yeah, let's go. The pure fairness of it, irrespective of the rules. Because weren't you mad? You felt bad for Waldo as it was happened, because you're like, he obviously got poked, he covered up and they still called the fight. So naturally what I'm saying is in terms of just like giving Cortez Acosta a shot, you're like, I have no problem with this. But in terms of following protocol, I don't understand how they did any of that.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Long Island, Luke, what did we miss with this situation? Are we not right that they called it basically are treated like a TKO? They brought in the wrong amount of people. I'm not even sure instant replay allows them to make that kind of call, to go from a TKO to a temporary stoppage due to I poke. How did you read that? The whole thing was a debacle, dude. First of all, Cortez Acosta, when he gets hit with the eye poke,
Starting point is 00:29:00 immediately is holding his eyes, like, trying to stop the fight, and he's just getting landed on. But guys do that all the time. That's not that big a deal. Right. He took the risk of losing by TKO by doing that. Yes, yes, that's true. On one hand, maybe there's an argument that Mark Smith is like,
Starting point is 00:29:15 notices the eye poke and jumps in to not wave it off, but pause it. But he waits for him to get hit like 20 more times before doing that, which is clearly a finishing secret. He screwed up and caught himself in the moment. Let's be fair. This is one of those fights where I feel like Delia probably has a legit chance to get it overturned. That's what I think, too. And he actually put out, I think we have a statement, right, from Delia, Delia?
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah, but it's part of our segment, you know. Oh, right, right, right. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, let's get to that right now because there were some comments made afterwards against Aspinall, against each other. I had a call on our friends from Cuervo for a little segment that we call shots fire. Shots fire. And this right here is shots fired.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Brought to you by Cuervo. Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Whether or not it was handled correctly, you got to give Waldo Cortez Acosta credit for two things. One, for regrouping himself after the eye poking, getting the unlikely CO, since he's not even looked at as a big CO puncher. Two, going right for the jugular,
Starting point is 00:30:17 not only calling a fight for a fight against Tom Asperol, but proceeding to then dunk on him afterwards. We'll get to the Delia comments. First here is Ocosta. Were you just calling them out as you felt like you wanted to get that shot? Or were you calling them out because you were able to continue from the eye poke? Yeah, it's like for the Heng to be a champion. And the hang quick because the puck in the eye, too.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And the third too, because Heng is a training partner. And I do it with Heng like a knocker mom in the first round. Why is it happening that me and Thomas will not fight? Because he said, don't even if you know, this is the one of those the best, 20 partner, Hank can have it. What happened, Thomas Pinau fighting with Waldo Cortez? By the way, Waldo Cortez would say the F word, at least 37 times on that postpart interview with D.C. was great.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Now we have a reaction here from Ante Delia who put this on Instagram. It's very small writing, but there's a bunch of points here. Let me get my glasses. Oh, now I can see. I'm not sure if I hit him in the eye. I think it's near the eye. And of course, I want a video where you can see the sting correctly. But then he writes, first of all, the referee did not show time out, but stopped the fight and therefore declared me the winner. That decision cannot be changed later. Two, the opponent sat and relaxed
Starting point is 00:31:41 while watching the footage for more than a few minutes. Three, replay used after the interruption, which rules do not allow. That one I need to verify. And then after all, he says, the fight continued irregularly. I ask for nothing, just honesty. I don't run from defeat. I respect every opponent and every outcome, but not when the rules are broken and I'm robbed. Not in this way.
Starting point is 00:32:03 The sport hasn't seen this yet, end quote. Yeah, it didn't seem like all of his points were accurate, but his larger point of, hey, this is in protocol, don't you feel like with the pay-per-view the week before having so many referee points being taken away, which is what we want? Yeah. And with the news that we'll get to that,
Starting point is 00:32:20 Herb Dean said publicly there's going to be some form or meeting on eye poking that it feels like behind the scenes, even though UFC doesn't control the referees, right? The commissions do. Somebody, whether it's the UFC, TKO or the commissions, are saying, we've got an issue here. We've got to do things more judiciously or more. I don't know what you would say because, again, they got to the right result here, which is very good. But we didn't really follow it. Well, they got to a result that seems pleasing.
Starting point is 00:32:46 When you say right result, the right result sort of implies, a bad result would have been... Doctrinal, like, you know, adherence, which I'm not sure that they did. To me, a bad result would have been that a first-round T. Well, I don't know, wouldn't have been because Waldo, even if he got poked and even if the referee didn't see it,
Starting point is 00:33:00 you can't just cover up, which is what he did. Yes. Opening the door for that TKO knockout. So maybe it wasn't. Maybe it's not a right or wrong thing in that case. But do you feel overall like there's a larger pressure on the officials to not create moments which this inevitably created anyway? I don't think there's any question in my mind.
Starting point is 00:33:17 They don't want to make... I mean, this is the thing, right? I've said this before. Football, American football, creates mechanisms for people, for the officiating crew, to get some of these decisions right when they miss it initially, right? Upon further review, blah, blah, blah. They've got a series of mechanisms to fix that. But, of course, you're also, if you're a referee calling an NFL game,
Starting point is 00:33:38 you're making 100 calls that day, and the other referees are making another 50. It's just continuous. In MMA, you're making maybe two, three calls at most during a fight. I mean, sometimes none at all. So they just don't want to get it wrong. So I understand them being looking at this and being like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This was an eye poke. They used to do it the other way.
Starting point is 00:33:57 They were so passive they didn't want to become the story. Now there's like this overcorrection where now they're like so hands on. And this is the problem with the government regulating it, which is like, I think people can look at the result and be like, okay, I like the spirit of what they did. But you're not adhering to the policy. But changing the policy is actually a lot more difficult than people realize you'd have to go through all 50 states to change it. There wouldn't be just, the NFL can decide, hey, we're going to have kickoffs of the 40-yard line next year. And then that's it. But as if it wasn't confusing enough a couple years ago, remember where the state commissions had different rules
Starting point is 00:34:26 and they'd have to announce at the beginning of the telecast that we're in this state. So it means this is legal and this isn't, which is just bizarre. Yeah, hand down in this state, knee down in that state, right? But like, okay, but it also feels like they kind of got it right or did they? There feels like there's a case here. Look, you don't need Alanis Morris said to tell you how ironic it was that it would be Delia making that comment regarding the Aspinall fight than him being the offender. But he's saying, look, I need proof that I actually
Starting point is 00:34:52 penetrated. Did the, was it conclusive enough to you that this was obviously at high poke? Conclusive enough. Like, I don't know the deep damage. It wasn't knuckle deep like Aspinall. I wasn't two fingers. I mean, it looked bad. It did look bad. It looked. Can I be honest? I mean, I'm not a doctor. I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:35:08 it was better or worse. It certainly looked worse than Aspinol's. Did it not? Well, dude, no one's even Asperol got two of them, dude. And one of them was I'm saying, but Acosta, after the fight had, like, one eye, you know, kind of mangled. You could see it in that video clip that we showed. I don't know if you could put up a screenshot or not, or you can stop the video, like, pretty quickly there.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Were you just caught? Yeah, like, look at that fucking eye. I mean, that's clearly a messed up eye. Somehow that's not as bad as DC's eye in the apex in that steeper fight. He fucking, like, he crossed one of them. Yeah. That was a terrible eye vote. Like, he could have been fighting for the Strawway Championship soon with eyes like that.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I mean, nice, quite open under the... Okay, we're doing, we're just mocking people's appearances, all right. All right, let's continue this. We've got Cortezocosta doubling down on whatever one's doing. Somehow mocking Aspinall through all of this. Here's the new avatar on Instagram of Waldo Cortez-A-Costa with the eyepatch. Tom had played, you know, Tom had played into the joke for his Halloween thing, putting on the eye patch. We saw John Jones on a white horse with an eyepatch at the dirty,
Starting point is 00:36:17 boxing weigh-ins this week. Are we not, like, this isn't directly related to Tom and trying to say, well, look, Waldo finished the fight Tom could have or should have. That was a title fight. He got two fingers. One of them was knuckle deep. Dude, enough said. Enough fucking said, okay?
Starting point is 00:36:32 I'm just saying it's quite obvious at this point. It's not a small amount of people. It's not just one segment of fans. I'm not endorsing it, but I'm saying you've got fighters and fans in unison, whether the majority or just a vocal minority, clearly the knives are out for Tom Aspinall.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yeah. Clearly the knives are out. And it's up to him, ultimately. He's the only one who can stop this. You can lecture the fans are not going to listen. You can lecture the fighters are not going to listen. And you might be wrong anyway. So that's the point.
Starting point is 00:37:04 The only way for Tom Aspinall to beat this is in his next fight to go in there and just fucking dominate. And then everyone will be like, okay, okay, okay, okay. But until then, he's going to have to eat shit. That's just what's going to be. Yeah. I mean, ultimately, Delia ate shit in a fight that we thought was going to propel. him forward. I can't believe he got
Starting point is 00:37:19 Catoed on that shot, but it was just, I wonder about that. Cortez Ocosta, he looks chubby. Yes. He can cover distance. As we saw in his loss with Pavlovich, he'll get in there and trade. Like, he's not afraid of it at all. He's sneaky, a little bit quick for a big guy. He is. Nis. Salsa boy. So a bad turn of events there
Starting point is 00:37:35 for Delia in so many ways, but if he gets it overturned, it shouldn't hurt him in the long run. Also, the division is so shallow that he should be able to bounce back. But on the flip five for Waldo, six wins and seven fights. only that lost to Pavlovich over three rounds in his last fight. I like the spontaneity
Starting point is 00:37:51 of the call out for Aspinol. He's not going to get that next. They're going to do Gan Aspinol rematch. It felt like Volkov put himself in position to be next, next. You want to do, what's the reward here? Do you do Volkov-Waldo? Well, if you look at the heavyweight rankings, where are you going to say, Long Island? I'm going to say, I know
Starting point is 00:38:07 Delia is like a more exciting fighter, but like, this is arguably better for the division that Cortez-A cost to won. Delia and Aspinall both said they won't fight each other. We do need new contenders like I'll take salsa boy maybe not next in a title shop you know but like he lost the pavlovich so does pavlovich get to rematch volkov first I feel like volkov's in the catbird seat i think maybe you could do pavlovich cortez o costa again although that would be too
Starting point is 00:38:33 where's curtis blades right now he probably i was going to say blade seems like the one for me that makes the most sense again i don't know his availability or whatever but that'd be a fresh matchup that'd be a fun one too again old cortez o costa we'll put one on you you're not looking right so Does he get to a title? Does Waldo get to a freaking title shot? Because I've been cheering for him in the last few fights. He's fun to watch. Honestly, I think if he wins one more, yes.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Because again, if Aspinall keeps winning, which is a big if, but if he does, they're going to be running out of contenders fast. Well, they do have John and Pereira who will probably fight at the White House. You cannot count on either of them to be their long term. You just can't. It's just not going to happen. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I mean, you could try, I guess you could try right there. What a wild freaking turn of events in the apex. Not watching live, were you? I was checking in periodically, but I was with my family for once. That's very nice of you, you know? A real family, man. We went to Fogo de Chau on Saturday. What the hell is Fogu de Chau?
Starting point is 00:39:27 You never been to Fogo de Chau? Is that a Brazilian steakhouse? Yeah. No. You ever been? Yeah, in Vegas. No, I've heard you mention it, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:35 It's okay. I went to the one at the wharf. It was all right. Like, they're just bringing by strips of me and you're picking up. Yeah, it's like a really nice restaurant, but it's just food in bulk. And any time food is in bulk, it's going to blow up a commode. Well, that and also how good can it be if they've got a bunch of it, right? I mean, that's sort of the whole point.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Anyway, all right, there we go. Hey, let's move on to topic number three where the strangeness only continued on Saturday. And you wonder if this is going to turn into something much, much bigger surrounding Isaac Delgarion, who Ariel Hawani of Uncrowned reported overnight that he was released from the organization following what took place a first round submission loss to Yaddea del Valley. but the whole theme coming in here was Dolgarian, who, by the way, is a highly rated prospect. And some are reporting that he had re-signed with the UFC before the bout came in there as the favorite. The line changed within the last hour aggressively. We're seeing reports that certain casinos got five giant bets put in. That would be a first-round stoppage loss for him.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And then not only does that first-round stoppage loss play out, you had Daniel Cormier in real-time, and then Michael Kiesa after the fight just going ham on the idea that Dolgarian was using almost, you know, white belt techniques to try to fight off basic moves that led to this. And then you find out, oh, Delgarian used to work with, train with James Krauss,
Starting point is 00:40:57 and, oh, Dolgarian was on the MMA junkie podcast this past week, arguing that fighters should get 3% of every bet placed on them. Luke, there's a lot of smell on these fish right now. Can we connect all the dots, we're fresh off the Chauncey Billab's MBA betting scandal that Pablo Torre in the seat played a big role in. He was finding out about it.
Starting point is 00:41:18 This seems super serious as an extension of what we saw from Jeff Molina, James Kraus, now to this. Yes. Now, again, a lot of what has known in public as what is being alleged in terms of what we know we're still in a bit of a finding out phase. Let's bring in, we have to have him here. Come on on the microphone here, Long Island. Let's talk this through.
Starting point is 00:41:36 You heard BC setup. That's basically what happened, right? You had Dolgarian as a pretty decent favorite about a minus 250 or so, and then about an hour before the bout, the lines shifted. Would you describe how much they shifted as unusual? Yeah, so they went, he was
Starting point is 00:41:51 like minus 270, and right before the fight he was like minus 160. Everyone in my chat was calling it out. They were like, look at this Del Valle line, he's moving. People were like, I got Del Valle at plus 225, now he's plus 140 or whatever. How much movement before a fight is
Starting point is 00:42:07 common? Like 15. Fractional amounts? 15 points in either direction. Yeah, nothing crazy. Anything more than like 50 points is like, whoa, a lot of money's coming in on this guy. Okay, so when you saw that, what reaction did you have? I was torn because they took all the props off the fight. They only had the money line bets.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And I was like, I was doing a climb bet thing. I needed to pick the next fight. So I just chose Dolgarian, which was obviously stupid. But if the props were there, you're damn right. I would have probably taken a first round finish just because of all the buzz around it leading up to the fight. Oh, so you were trying to cash in on it. Yeah, but also it was like, like it was clear as day for anyone who gambles like everyone was noticing it i see everyone was
Starting point is 00:42:46 talking about it so like okay we kind of saw it come now when you stay on the mic now when you saw the fight did your spidey senses tingle only when there's uh he goes for i almost called him mike davis he looks a lot like mike davis he does look like mike davis goes for like a double leg and uh freaking delvae gets these underhooks on him and they're like so over he has his arms almost behind his back and like a full nelson but like forward it was I've never seen that in an MMA fight and I was like oh that looks weird like how good is this guy's take down defense that he's like pushing him like or how strong is he like but I didn't think anything of the rest of the fight per se up until all the backlash after it now if it's a fix he did put in the acting time of trying to fight it off it's just that DC was calling out a little bit but his hand fighting again if I didn't know anything and I just watched the fight I'd be like he's injured or he sucks but that this thing is interesting part about Delgarian. He's 29 years of age. Dude,
Starting point is 00:43:45 this was a hyped prospect for a while. Like, he's not a bum as a fighter anyway. And you just have like a split decision loss to Christian Rodriguez or something like that? Yeah, Seward was his only C-Rod beats all the undefeated guys. He was undefated C-Row. But okay, fine. You lost to a guy who was also pretty good, or at least in those
Starting point is 00:44:01 spots can be, you know, really, really challenging. And then this happens. I mean, here's what I'm going to say. There's a lot we simply don't know. We don't know if there's a paper trail. We don't know if there is an investigation being launched. I did see some people suggesting as much on social media. I'm not saying that those suggestions or reports are wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'm not in any way saying that. It's hard to know these days on X, what's real. My view is if you're going to make big claims, you have to have big evidence, but that doesn't mean what they're suggesting is wrong. That's not what I'm saying. Because they suggested that there's an FBI trail looking into this, and then Chale Sunnon jumped in and like push back. Yeah, he said no.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I hope that there is. Only for one reason, let's just make this very clear, for all of this to work where you're going to have, you know, these leagues and they're going to have best. betting and whatnot. And here, we're a part of this, too. And Yanni's teeth, too. And Yanni's teeth. This only works if it's above board.
Starting point is 00:44:49 This only works if people can trust the integrity of it. This only works under very, very controlled tight circumstances. And to the extent, and again, there's still a lot we don't know, but it doesn't look great. And to the extent that there is something fishy about it, it has to be investigated. Well, the FBI must look into this. Especially in light of the NBA scandal. Even if that didn't happen, but to your point,
Starting point is 00:45:10 Especially in light of the James Krauss, Jeff Molina, and then there was another fight. So there was, I forget what year it was. You can check this out Long Island Look if you can find it. Tehung Bang did a short prison sentence in South Korea. He had a side deal, I think, with mafia elements there in South Korea. I think you served 10 months there for the Leo Kuntz fight. He threw that one.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Again, UFC not involved in that one. Leo Kuntz not involved in that one. Wasn't there one in the UFC that's related to Kraus in the past year? Wasn't there some weird hiccup or a moment? I have seen people point to. other events where people had injuries and it was or wasn't known. I have not.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah, that was the fight. I've not vetted those claims, so I'm a little hard to say. I'm just going to say one point, though, and we don't have to litigate this here, BC, but one thing that I've brought up is that in the past, it's my belief that the sport
Starting point is 00:45:57 is a right-wing sport. We don't have to delve into that, but one point I want to make related to that, if I may, is that the current people who run the Ultimate Fighting Championship have a very close relationship with the president. They have a close relationship
Starting point is 00:46:09 with the FBI director. and he is a UFC fan. He's been pictured with Dana White. They want a program where he's going to train, where the MMA players are going to train. He wanted to do business with the UFC. And I'm not saying, I'm not declaring he won't do a proper investigation.
Starting point is 00:46:26 But I have some concerns about what we're going to get as a consequence of what appear to be some potential conflicts. Well, you know it's super serious when after the fight, toward the end of the night, a bunch of major sports books were offering refunds, related to if you had bet on Delgarian and loss. That's a major sign. We have a statement here as well from Draft Kings related to this,
Starting point is 00:46:49 which says we are aware of the situation regarding the Isaac Delgarian versus Yadilly del Valle event, and we will be sure to let you know if our team has further updates. So my understanding is that I don't know if this is the case for D.K. or not, but some places can only do fuller refunds. I think if like the bout is overturned or something has to happen on the front end for that to be changed. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:11 This is a little bit, you have to ask Long Island Luke because he would, is that how it works? I'm just going to say any time a bet has been overturned for me in the past, it happens usually within 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:47:21 So I feel like if you haven't been refunded yet, it's probably not going to happen. All right, well, we'll see. I mean, I don't know. I don't know how that works. Well, look, the same thing we said after the Kraus situation, which I thought would be a much bigger situation,
Starting point is 00:47:30 but they were able to put that fire out quickly. Yep. It's all based on the integrity that you said. You have to fix this. You have to fix this powerfully swiftly. UFC has not commented public on it, publicly on it. I wish they would soon to sort of just put what they know, the investigations that they're doing themselves, all of that.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Because, you know, they obviously want nothing to do with this because of how much money with the sponsorships and the connection to gambling. And look, what percentage of the fan base is gambling related? A large percentage of the fans are the online fan base. One other note, one of the groups that partnered with many of the sports leagues that partnered, I think, with, I mean, every major sports league you can think of, including but not limited to UFC.
Starting point is 00:48:05 They used to be called U.S. Integrity, and now they're called IC360. I reached out to them for comment. Are they aware of the situation? Are they looking into it? Anything. I don't know if they'll get back to me, but if they do, I'll be sure to let everyone know what they say. Excellent. Wow, what a wild.
Starting point is 00:48:24 What a wild turn. Before we exit this topic, Luke, we did want to have an opportunity to shout out what else was on the card. And I do have to say this. Norma Dumont went out there against Ketland Vieira and a very close fight of split decision and handled her business for the sixth consecutive time. We are looking for names in these somewhat dormant female UFC divisions at the moment. And women's band-in-weight certainly is one of them outside of what's going on at the very top with Kayla Harrison and the expected return of Amanda Nunes.
Starting point is 00:48:53 But how about Norma DeMont kind of putting herself in position to fight next for the title once Kayla is free? Those are some big names she took out across the way in those six fights as well. It's not like she has been fighting nobody. Are you feeling her as a title contender? I think the answer is maybe. But she wanted us via split decision. She didn't beat a chump, but she wanted to be a split.
Starting point is 00:49:15 She got taken down twice. And controlled for stretches, yeah. For stretches. It's like, I mean, there's always two separate questions. One is, is someone close to a title shot? And two is, do they actually have a chance at winning? Did I see someone who can beat Kayla Harrison? And I don't know if Kayla's going to stick around long enough for the Stephen
Starting point is 00:49:33 matter. Probably not. am I seeing someone who's putting together the kind of streak that's going to have to be rewarded sooner or later? Yes, yes, I did see that. You'll go that far. All right. Long Island, Luke, were you impressed by Charles Rackie,
Starting point is 00:49:45 the Walter, he were talking about coming in, scored that third round sub there? He was Jack, too. Yeah, I'm not so much impressed with Radke as much as I knew Frenza isn't really on the UFC level yet. He doesn't look like he has a UFC body, right? He's a little soft. I don't mean to be a hashtag body guy here, Luke,
Starting point is 00:49:59 but in these middle divisions, you've got to be ripped, right? He did have some good rear naked choke defense. I will say, I thought Charles was going to get him out of there in like the first round, but it took a little longer. But he was dropped in his first two Zufa fights before that, or dropped four times, excuse me. So, yeah, I wasn't never big on that guy. Also, the Thimba Garimbo, that didn't go great.
Starting point is 00:50:19 No, he threatened the kids of an opponent and said, I'll kill that guy, and then he, yeah. He lost. He just kind of got outristened there and handled. Although, Jeremiah Wells, he's a decent athlete. Yeah, he's old, too. like 36, but he's been around. He's shot out of a cannon, so it ended up being
Starting point is 00:50:37 a bit of a tough one. Oh, Long Island, Luke, there's nothing else to talk about. Am I wrong? No, that's not true. Tolita Alancar got a sub, the opening area of the car. Are you a big Timmy Quamba guy? Who? Oh, I didn't see that one, actually. Get ready. Next week, there'll be a lot of who-who as well, Luke.
Starting point is 00:50:53 No, no, I didn't miss that one. I didn't watch it live. I went back and watched the ones that I missed. I mean, even Long Island Luke's got nothing for us. This is wild. I'm looking back at the car. Let me guess. The Seo-Quan co-fight against Phil Roe. Dude, Co. K.O. That guy? He's strong on the ground, man. He is pretty strong. Phil's actually pretty decent on the ground, and he was having a little bit of an issue. Is that guy going to be something, Co? That's a great last name.
Starting point is 00:51:15 I'll tell you what. Korean prospects to me, I've always kind of, they get real good, they get real good, and then they kind of top out around the top five. And then they leave for two years. Well, they have to. I know. Mandatory military service. Yeah. I don't know if that's his case in this particular situation, but he looks like he could, could, he's interesting. I'll say that. He's interesting. How about that? He's interesting. How about Dante Johnson submitting Cedricade Dumas? That's the other one we should have said. Yeah. That was very questionable defense there from Tumas.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And then he defended him in the post-fight presser. He was like, oh, he's a good guy. I'm like, I don't know that that's true. Well, he was trying to make the argument that we're all good and bad, and you don't know what this guy's been through. But then people were countering, I think MMA guru countered with the amount of mug shots Cedricas Dumas has, and it's a lot, unfortunately. There's been many times.
Starting point is 00:51:59 They keep giving that guy fights. But Dakota Johnson came in, what, 6 and 0 was 6 first round. knockouts, went to the second round for the first time, and got a good-looking sub-subs. So... Yes. I mean, he's still... If you got sub-10 fights, unless you're like a diamond prospect, you know, you've got to pump the brakes a little bit, but... He seems funny. He can talk a bit.
Starting point is 00:52:15 He did the job, for sure. All right, there we go. All right. Hey, folks, it's official. All right? All right. No, no, it's not that official. Sorry, wrong one. This podcast, by the way, also sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner of the UFC. And when you're streaming the fight or sharing those takedown highlights with your bros. And who doesn't love takedowns. You need a wireless provider that keeps you close to the action.
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Starting point is 00:53:54 is now seemingly over. Netflix was supposed to be giving us Jake Paul versus Jervante Tank Davis for better or worse, mostly worse. And the recent civil lawsuit filed against Giovante Tink Davis, which only, if true, extends the theme of domestic violence in his outside the ring life, has brought the fight certainly under question as now Jake Paul seems to be publicly fishing for a new opponent with names as large as Ryan Garcia, Nate Diaz, Francis Ngano, Anthony Joshua being considered for this.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yikes here. Not only is the card still scheduled for November 14th, but there's talks that depending on which opponent they end up choosing, it could be go on two separate December dates instead. So Luke, while we don't know exactly what's going to happen next, we do know this debacle was such a debacle that it even stopped the fight from happening, which is probably a good thing. But what does this entire episode say about Tank, Jake...
Starting point is 00:54:59 Celebrity crossover boxing. I mean, I'm actually happy it's not happening, but the reason it's not happening sucks. Tank continues to take another backstep. Yeah, I mean, again, like the other situation we discussed with the UFC's this crazy Dolgarian fight, here's another situation where things are alleged about Tank Davis. We can see what he's accused of here.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Yeah, when we put that up here. Fuck me. I can read it. Davis is accused by ex-girlfriend Courtney Russell of battery, aggravated battery, false imprisonment, kidnapping, an intentional infliction of emotional distress. The lawsuit comes two months after Davis's previous domestic violence case was dropped by a different ex-girlfriend and the mother of two of the boxers, three children.
Starting point is 00:55:43 So if you remember, coming off of the first fight against Lamont Roach, which I believe was in March, and they never got a second fight, there was a belief that Tank could do like somewhat legitimate time in jail, and then the case got dropped. So he kind of got. He's on probation too, Martin. He kind of got off, you know, luckily. I guess, you know, lucky. And while they weren't able to make the Roach rematch,
Starting point is 00:56:03 suddenly you have this fight, and now you've got another accusation against him in the civil lawsuit. With his track record, you know, you got people saying straight up, like maybe we'll never see Tank in a meaningful fight again, which I don't think is true, but at the very least...
Starting point is 00:56:17 I think that's true. Man, what a rough turn for a guy. Or even if you see him in a meaningful fight, will you see him meaningfully prepared? Yeah, I don't know where he's going to be at. You see what I mean? I don't know if he's going to be able to stay out of prison with this type of time.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Can I just say this man? I really, and I'm being dead serious, I really wanted to believe in the redemption story for him. Me too. Because again, I've made this point a million times. This would go back to the John Jones thing where he dunked on me when I asked him about his 30s and 20s. But the whole point was I had seen so many guys that I knew have really fucked up 20s, you know, DUIs and much worse than that and just kinds of all kinds of problems. But the vast majority of them by age 30 sort of ironed it out they sort of got it together um and you know listen tank has had anything but an easy upbringing and i do think that that you know who was supposed to show him civility when no one did yeah we're i think we're past that okay but this is my point
Starting point is 00:57:12 yeah now he has lived enough life yes where you have an obligation to graduate from your past and you have every resource imaginable to do so not least of which are your children And then beyond that, the fact that he had to spend time behind bars for a little while as like a prelude, like this can either be something you come back to or this can be the end of it. And I don't know what his future is. Again, this is a civil lawsuit. But the one I'm trying to make is he's a fuck up, man. Like, what else do you say about a guy like this? Get your shit together.
Starting point is 00:57:45 It is not hard to not get sued by women for the alleged heinous acts that are alleged in this fucking lawsuit. It is easy to do this. And, dude, boxing is so forgiving because there's part of it that, I don't know, people just expect boxers to be crazy outside the ring. But it's like, you know, Tyson coming out of jail. I know it's Mike Tyson, but still, it was like felt bigger than even when he was on top of original. I mean, you remember how big Tyson coming out of jail and getting back to fighting was just enormous. I think Tank, if he wants to, can come back. But like, at some point the public's not going to forgive or care.
Starting point is 00:58:19 That's what I'm saying. Like, you're at the point where it's just one thing after doing it. Now he's not technically pulled from the fight. do have a statement that MVP put on social media. Can I say one thing? It's like, I just want to say one thing about the allegations. Again, they're allegations. But they tend to match problems he's had with other things.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Consistent thread through that. Here's the statement from MVP. MVP immediately initiated an investigation upon learning of the civil lawsuit against Giovante. At this time, we are gathering info and reviewing the details to ensure any decision is thoroughly vetted. They unequivocally, of course, condemn any form of violence and are committed to handling this matter with.
Starting point is 00:58:53 diligence and respect for all involved and MVP will make a determination on next steps once we have completed our review and consulted with the appropriate parties and then some and then some. So, wow, wow, wow. So good news, it's not happening in my opinion
Starting point is 00:59:11 because I think this fight was bad for boxing in a lot of ways. I talked to somebody who's working the show by the way. Especially with Tank still being a superstar, legit fighter in the midst of his prime. It just never made sense. What do you got? They're furious with Of course. They're fiori. Because this isn't just like, we'll move the pay-per-view.
Starting point is 00:59:27 This is Netflix. Yes. This is like the top. This is the top show. They are livid about what he's done. Not just because what is alleged against him is quite bad, but that also he's just ruining everything around him for everybody else by virtue of his conduct at the 11th. We're not quite the 11th ever, but pretty close to it.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Yeah, my understanding is they are absolutely irate, which means BC, if he does get replaced, does the door close on him for Netflix for the future for good one wonders yeah so originally Sports Illustrator reported that Ryan Garcia was in discussions with Jake Paul then Oscar De La Jolla would put out a video that basically said look when he fights I'll announce it
Starting point is 01:00:06 he's under contract to me and his own it's impossible for him to go over there on Netflix and fight him I don't know if that's impossible if Turkey was involved in those money and everybody was making it be I suspect to be quite possible it'd be more than fine but so that took him out of the mix seemingly but Nate Diaz had posted something
Starting point is 01:00:21 the day before it seemed as if the fight was off which felt almost like maybe he had some inside info so he posted a video of him boxing Jake Paul with the quote here I was injured in this fight but they tripping I still won this fight it's all good though most people don't know shit about boxing I'll get it back on the both the Paul sisters see you fuckers soon at the time that he posted that I felt like oh man like it kind of looks lame that he's almost begging to get a fight that's not going to happen
Starting point is 01:00:50 I was like, why is he bringing this up now? But now it makes sense that there were probably phone calls being made. The problem is, like, how much, like, how much, I've got an honest question. How much does anybody care of at the highest level about Jake Paul anymore? And my highest level, I don't mean the highest level of boxing. I mean, like, using Netflix to cross over, it has to be a specific opponent. Like, if they rush out at Francis and Ganoo, I think a lot of people will care because it's sort of like, now that's a real challenge for Jake in the crossover, you know, professional sports bubble here. of boxing people that aren't boxers.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I think to some degree, if he fought anyone for a cruise rate title, people would care. But outside of that, I don't feel like a lot of people care anymore. We've been through this. They've done the Mike Tyson ride already. And a lot of people got off that ride feeling like, wow, what a waste of time. Then we did Chavez Jr., and now we were going to do a lightweight. If this turns into a rematch with Nate Diaz or Anthony Joshua, I mean, maybe people would care about Joshua because they'd want Jake to get a COD.
Starting point is 01:01:49 But Joshua doesn't want it. But, like, outside of selling your name to a giant guy that's probably going to beat you or fighting for a title, I don't know that people will care about any of the other potential names. I mean, what happens if Netflix rolls out Jake Nate 2 when the first fight sucked, there's no, like, hype at the moment or buzz behind it. They'd have to rush this out to try to save some date with Netflix. So I saw that they might move it to December or mid-December. But even if you move it a month, what's the build? What's the need for this? What did we not learn in that first fight?
Starting point is 01:02:18 You know what I mean? There's no need for it. You know, what's interesting is, man, it feels like all the things you say are true, but also, like, Jake really aired in the last two fights he picked. So the fight with Tyson obviously did huge numbers, but it really soured a lot of people. It killed his credibility of whatever he had in real box. So that he overcorrected and, like, oh, I got to get someone who's, like, relevant and it's got a big name. But then he went the other way and finding someone who was, you know, five, six weight classes, whatever it was below him.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And everyone was like, this is weird, and we don't like it. And Girvante had other business to attend to with Lamont Roach. And worst of all, they do these pressers, and Durvante can barely be bothered to give a fuck. He doesn't know the day of the fight. He doesn't know anything. He doesn't care. Like, the whole thing has been, since the Tyson fight, debacle, I mean, obviously there's been issues before that. But since then it feels like maybe the worm has turned a little bit on Jake Paul, where people, I'm not saying to your point, there is a universe of fights of people that the public would be interested in.
Starting point is 01:03:19 seeing him in. But he doesn't seem to select those. The Ngano one would blow me away if he did it, which is why I don't think he will. Like of all the ones, you're like, oh, that'd be cool. He picks all the uncool ones. Here's the thing. If he picks any of the really biggest names available to you, you have one month to build it. And that's if Netflix is willing to push it out to December and you get a new date. The best choice he could make for the, I believe, the combination of credibility and must-cTV is Inganu. Like, look, if he, if he fought either Canello or Anthony Joshua, which are two guys, and Kennell's not in the running now, but these were two guys that he had, he was pretty damn close to fighting at different points. We all assumed he's almost sort of cashing out his name, trying to make the biggest money on the biggest audience possible.
Starting point is 01:04:00 We're only going to give him a certain amount of respect for that. You're also taking active fighters out of the active fighting pool and sort of putting them in a meaningless exhibition. And Ganu means you're trying to challenge yourself, doesn't it? Yes. And Ganon means you're taking a risk. Jake doesn't take risks in fights. There's always that built-in advantage of size, youth, experience. It's the same theme.
Starting point is 01:04:21 It's why no one should have cared about Chavez Jr. And then Chavez Jr. didn't care for the first nine rounds. The Ingano thing could win back a lot of, in a short period, could win back a decent amount of goodwill. That's why he won't do it. That's why he won't do it. But with the lack of build, if you have one month to build this, can you get, I mean, they put out the, think of how bad Netflix is. There was money spent to do the pre-fight documentary series. My wife brought up Tank Davis's tattoos the other day, which was just,
Starting point is 01:04:46 mind. I'm like, what? Like, what? Long Island, Luke, which fighter that Jake Paul could fight would make you most excited to skip time with your girlfriend? Absolutely none of them. I don't give a fuck about anything that this guy does. Honestly, I was saying to BC, why are we covering his possible opponent?
Starting point is 01:05:02 It's one thing to be like he has a fight book, let's cover. Like, I don't, I just, I'm so over the Jake Paul experience, honest. Yeah, I got to say it's really worn thin very quickly. Well, I guess not very quickly. I mean, he's been around doing this for years now, but. Inganu's the fight.
Starting point is 01:05:17 In God, oh, dude, I'm with, listen, if he act, if he... Because if he wins that, you respect the shit out of him. If you outbox Inganu, yeah, I would respect that. Dude, Inganu went their distance with Tyson Fury. I think Tyson Fury, you know, bit off more than he could chew in terms of prep, but... Dude, AJ corrected that mistake. Holy shit. Dude, I talked to the judges that worked that fight, and they were...
Starting point is 01:05:37 I think I told you this, and they were like, I've never seen a more scary or vicious K.O. where I thought, like, that person might not make it. Is that right? And, like, just like, damn. Wow. Anyway, that's why he won't pick him. Probably true. He's like, you know who he's going to pick?
Starting point is 01:05:50 He's going to pick Hasbola. No, dude, he's going to pick Nate. But like... Who's Hasbola's his rival? Abdu Rosic. Abduz. Yeah. But like, dude, he's going to pick Nate
Starting point is 01:05:58 because it'll make the most sense to pull over combat sports fans, but... That's right. Who cares? Who cares? All right. As I hope he would say, who cares, brother.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Who cares? Yeah. Let's go to topic five, which is a combat sports roundup of lingering news. It's not necessarily a hot period right. now, even though UFC 322 is right around the corner. But reports coming out, I saw some reporting from Dan Rayfield and Mike Coppinger,
Starting point is 01:06:23 that early in 2006, a joint pay-per-view is being planned between PBC on Prime and DeZone involving Ryan Garcia challenging Mario Barrios for his 147-pound WBC title that he fought Maniopecchio to a draw to. In fact, Barrios is coming off two consecutive draws in title defenses and is seen in a lot of ways as a beatable sort of weak title holder. Ryan Garcia hasn't done a lot of great stuff since that fight against Evan Haney, including all the outside the ring stuff, the really bad performance and the decision loss at Welterweight to Roli Romero and more bad stuff
Starting point is 01:07:01 on social media. Yet, Luke, I have to say, because they're both flawed and because love them or hate him and I know you hate him, Brian Garcia, if he's active and if he's winning, he's a star and boxing needs him, actually smart matchmaking. I just thought it was kind of funny that Jake Paul loses Dervante because anus allegations are made against him, and his first choice was the guy who was nuclear reactor racist, right? Yeah, but unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:07:28 People are over that, though. I'm not saying that they should. No, no, no, no, no. People are not over that. Clowns are over that. I think people just looked at it as he was on drugs. He wasn't taking his meds, like he was acting out in the worst way possible. And I'm not forgiving for him with that.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I don't buy that he was doing that. I buy that he was doing that. I buy that that's also how he act pretty close. I think that closely approximated how he actually feels. Anyway, you ever notice that people, well, I'll never forget, moving along. I'll say this, who is Mario Barrios's manager? Because he gets him in all the big fights. He got him, Tank.
Starting point is 01:08:06 He fought Tank on pay-per-view. He fought Keith Thurman on pay-per-view. But, many Pacquiao, he fought on the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson, like, main card on Netflix. No, against Abel Ramos, the draw. That's right. And doesn't look great in all of those. He fought well against Tank. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:23 But you're right. Keeps getting that call. Keeps getting freaking called up to the majors. Well, think about it. Mexican-American audience behind him. He is a warrior. He fights hard. And they see him as beatable.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Yeah. He fights hard. We've been with Virgil Hunter, been with Bob Santos. Sure. Kind of goes around. You know, I'll say this. Garcia, just being serious and just trying to measure what we saw that Times Square card, it was terrible.
Starting point is 01:08:46 This seems, seems like a beatable opponent for him, but I don't know what Ryan's done. And look, if boxing's not dead and it actually starts to pick up again, the real big fight of this month is Turkey's Ring 4 card that has that co-man event of Devin Haney challenging Brian Norman Jr. for a Walterway title. And, you know, there's a lot of people picking Norman, by the way. the way who's the betting favorite some people a lot of people picking them by co uh the winner of that unifying down the road against the winner of this fight that's it's getting kind of interesting where wilts rate was just dead recently like dead dead dead dead yeah true that's true
Starting point is 01:09:19 that's true but still it's just a very surprising pairing i suppose all right more talk from yuri prohatska on the ufc side i hate this about the idea of not not taking my suggestion and go up and be a quick heavyweight cutting down to 185 i don't think you should cut anything because he's in the midst, in the title mix right now, even though Poetan has beaten him twice. A good or bad idea, Luke, I have a feeling you're going to say bad. I mean, what would be the good about this?
Starting point is 01:09:48 Okay. Closer to a title shot in his eyes? Yeah, I think, okay, let's, if you're a Yuri fan and you believe in his upside, you might think he'll be a huge middleweight, which I do think is true. He'd be a, he's a big fucking 205er. He's going to be gargantuan at 85.
Starting point is 01:10:05 and he wants to stay active and he wants to get another title and you've got to love that and plus year he's never in boring fights so that's really not an issue but I gotta tell you BC I got to tell you I gotta tell you Jim
Starting point is 01:10:17 Jim all right Jim okay Jim for a guy who has to live on his chin cutting another 20 pounds I don't tell you I don't love that bad idea jeans take them off please please I don't I just that gives me the hebie jibis
Starting point is 01:10:33 let's hear his reasoning we do have video company this. On a recent interview, you tease the potential move to middleweight if you can't get another fight with Alex Pereira. So what would that look like for you? You're a big guy. So would that be a tough cut in a middle way or would not be too big of the deal? Yeah, let's see. Let's see. But I'm in like I'm in for me to cut to 93 is for it's not problem. I think to 84 kilograms, like middleweight, will be really, really something. And I believe I can make it with my body because I know my body, so I believe I can make it. But it depends.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Like, I really want to first bring the title to the Czech Republic. It feels like he just wants a challenge. Yeah. Can I tell you what he wants to do it for? Because he sees it as one of those like spiritual retreats, like the quest to make 84 kilos in his mind or 185. That's what he's doing? Because going to heavyweight, what do you have to do? Just nothing, just chill. Be quick, laying bombs, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Just do whatever. But he wants the grind. He loves the depletion and the challenge that that brings. Did he do one of those Anthony Joshua, no light retreat things? The Aaron Rogers smooth poop thing in the dark? I think so. Yeah. maybe just like run a marathon or something
Starting point is 01:12:05 How do these people not know you can just hit a fucking bong and it'll take you there? Right? Thank you. How hard is this? Well said. How hard is this? Let's keep it going. Herb Dean, I believe he was interviewed by Helen Yee
Starting point is 01:12:17 and he seemed to put out some news that the iPoke pandemic of late could get a change. Herb Dean says a meeting will be held November 4th. That's tomorrow to address eyepokes and says there will definitely be something done about them. His quote to Helen Yee Sports, was enough people are fed up with the eye poke situation that something is going to be done.
Starting point is 01:12:36 There's going to be a meeting where we go over that. Definitely something's going to happen. Enough people are upset. Enough of the fight people. Some people have been talking. It's got enough momentum. Early next week, I think there's a conversation happening. Okay, so we know that.
Starting point is 01:12:49 How aggressive will this conversation be? Is this the commission getting together on an almost national level and saying take a point no matter what when they tell you. You touch the eye, you get a point. I don't know if they'll do that, but I think that they're going to find a way to have some forms of enforcement that go quicker in terms of taking points. And I also want to point out something here, I think, a little bit more broadly, B.C.,
Starting point is 01:13:10 which is there do appear to be a lot of things, including some really important ones, that are just beyond the scope of public pressure changing athletic commissions. However, this incident in my mind goes to show that enough fans have been, and media too, have been pissed off enough to get out on social media or make video content or written written content or you're talking about fighting the powers that be yes and now they're hearing it and now they're reacting and i this is but this is the difference they think they got bone nickel off the main card at 322 because of that same reason uh that's what people think i think there's something to that well i'm trying to point out here's the difference though
Starting point is 01:13:46 you can't brow beat the commission and be like you guys fucked up you got to fix it they don't really respond to that what they respond to is money well that too but also they think it's a good idea. They must be able to hear some of the people being like, take a point quicker, and I think it intuitively resonates with them. So they're like much more receptive to do it. But getting them to backtrack on something that's going to make them look bad, that's very, very difficult to do. So there is a role to public pressure. I'm just glad we're finally here. It took a heavyweight championship pay-per-view main event, but we're finally there. He had to Freddie Cougar them shits. I mean, take the point. Retrain people how to fight. I don't want to care. I don't want to
Starting point is 01:14:28 Well, that's moitai. You extend your fingers. They say moitai, it's MMA, okay? Yeah, it's not moitai. You know what I'm saying? Thank you. All right. Also, Moitai fans, they're going to kill me for saying this.
Starting point is 01:14:38 They tend to be the weirdest of all combat sports fans. Yes, so we're BJJ, grappling fans, too. They're not as weird. They're pretty weird, but they're not more than Muay. I think they're all weird, Luke. Jake from Amsterdam, big moitai guys, so that checks out. What did I tell you? What I tell you?
Starting point is 01:14:54 Well timed right there. All right. Luke, I have one more for you. Favorite coach of many boxing experts, Stephen Bredman Edwards, who, of course, writes a fantastic weekly Q&A column on boxing scene. He's kind of gone public in an interview saying he has parted ways his choice with one Caleb plan who lost in an upset to Armando Resendiz earlier this year in a BBC main event. Caleb has not fought since.
Starting point is 01:15:22 But the quote here from Edwards is, I'm not going to be training Caleb, so I don't really know what's next for him. I've been hearing about his future fights, but I really don't know. what's going on, but I'm not going to be training him. I don't really know what direction he wants to go in. I just let him know about three or four weeks after the fight that I would be stepping away. I never really talked, but I'm hearing the Charlo fight in different fights that people were asking me. But it's something I let him know back in June. I want to say I've got love for Caleb. So it's not a thing of like it's a confrontational relationship. He doesn't
Starting point is 01:15:51 owe me money or anything like that. Sometimes relationships just run their course. He would go on to double down about having respect for him. Luke, while I was shocked initially upon hearing the news, I'm not shocked because I remember all of the interviews, the very honest interviews that Breadman gave after, immediately after, like backstage. People thought he was throwing Caleb under the bus a little bit. Where he wasn't, but he was being a tough coach.
Starting point is 01:16:15 And what I remember from Breadman's biggest takeaways there was, Caleb wasn't, I don't want to say Caleb wasn't in the shape he wanted, but there were long stretches of Caleb's camp that didn't involve Red Man, where Caleb's dad, Richie was running. I think that was where Caleb was. staying in Las Vegas closer to home. His wife was pregnant at the time with their second child, his wife, Jordan. So I just wonder, because Bredman had said immediately after that loss, if I work with
Starting point is 01:16:37 him again, I wanted to be 100% me. Like, we're doing the whole training camp on my terms. And I don't think he's necessarily taking a shot at Caleb's dad. It just sounded like from listening to that interview at full that he understood Caleb to be distracted and or not where he should have been heading into that fight. and he's just trying to say like I'm not going to put in the time unless you are and obviously it feels like for him being the one to break it publicly like this it just means he doesn't have confidence that Caleb will change whatever the impasse is between them I can I ask a question see what you think have you detected of late not from you or me but from others a little bit more breadman slander on the timelines not really no no I haven't seen it no I feel like I've seen a lot maybe that's my I don't I don't know how to explain that I I see a lot of people being like oh he's been found out that
Starting point is 01:17:38 the limits of his coaching have been discovered you do you I have not seen that trend okay let's take for the let's just take for the sake of argument that I'm telling you the truth yeah I mean I'm sure it's out there there's what would you what would be the reason for that I mean look you know coaches aren't has he had a bunch of guys like fall short recently because that necessarily i mean he's most known for julian jrach williams but jrach is you know sort of has he's either done or has another fight left and he has caught on with different people but i thought caleb planted some of his best work with breadman in the corner which was not only the knockout of darrell it was the performance he had in a defeat against benavides
Starting point is 01:18:13 so you can say that about any coach who becomes the hot coach of the moment what happened to derrick james especially when suddenly everyone's reaching out to be with them and then they can't resurrect every single person because ultimately a coach is not a magician, but paired perfectly with the right student that fits with them, it can be a magic connection and an upgrade. I feel like Coach Redman found out
Starting point is 01:18:35 that him, Caleb ultimately, like after the totality of three, four fights weren't where you, where you need to be for Redman to be at his best. And maybe and I think it's like, you know, Freddie Roach the same thing happened, dude. Reddy Roach couldn't fix Ameri Khan, you know what I mean? Like Virgil Hunter, right, with Andre Ward, kind of mediocre with everybody else.
Starting point is 01:18:55 It's more, in my opinion, about the magic of the connection and what is the fighter missing that the trainer can fill in, whether it's a motivation or belief in themselves or work ethic or whatever, you know, or just what he did with Caleb Plan, just adding little extras to the corners of his game. In any event, I look forward to seeing Caleb Plant return. I think I still have great interest in the Caleb Plant, Edgar Belonga fight. Yeah, what about Jamal Charlo? Too late?
Starting point is 01:19:21 really so what to replay the slap yeah the whole thing i don't know the charlos are kind of fucked up yeah i mean brulanga so's boxing berlanga is just a dog you know what i mean the charlots are dude burlonga wants the charas rematch what he wants it aggressively yes are you kidding i'm not kidding he wants to get back in that kitchen got battered he did get he got bludgeoned yeah shiraz is like way better than him he made charas look like a killer he did yes whereas shiraz did not look like that at 160 against adama who's crafty and all that, yeah. Hey, Luke, it's official, all right?
Starting point is 01:19:55 In fact, put the kid. Your HIV positive? No, sorry, no, no, no, no. Tough way to transition here, but I'll try it again. Hey, it's official. The holidays are right around the corner. That means lights, gifts, and get-togethers. And that means an opportunity to make sure the people in your life
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Starting point is 01:22:27 go to Arby's, get you this holiday season, your family and friends. We'll thank you. Very well said right there. Our five topics are behind us, but we do give you an opportunity every Sunday night to burp into the microphone, excuse me, and have your say said and heard on this show.
Starting point is 01:22:43 On X, on IG, at Morning Combat is the account. You respond to our post? Maybe like flannels and jits, we'll pick one of your questions. This one's called DMs from the digity. What do you think that
Starting point is 01:23:00 that donkey was watching to get that exciting? I think you're right on there. LIL hit me with it. What are we got here? From Rentendo 64. That's my guy from California. Yeah. Why do featherweight fighters seem invisible until they are top five when they are so talented.
Starting point is 01:23:20 I'll push back. Lord G.N. Silva was not invisible over the last year. Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with the premise of the question. I mean, it's a stacked division, so it's a little hard to break out. Plus, it's one of those divisions where you've got lingering guys at the top, and then there's more reshuffling underneath. So you have to get to a level where you're facing someone a little bit more of a fixture. The whole division has been about Volk, Max, and Topteria for a long stretch.
Starting point is 01:23:44 and it kind of still is. Are we doing the top tourie a bit the whole time? I accidentally said that on HQ the other day because I do it so often and I wasn't able to correct myself so I just rolled with it. That's awesome. They're like maybe he's Irish.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Well, I am an eighth, yeah. So, I mean, is he saying because I've had no footprint and can barely get a title shot even though he's overly deserved it? No one really knows about Lorone Murphy, especially not until the spinning back fist. Yousef Zalal's on a run,
Starting point is 01:24:07 but is far under the radar. I mean, there were opportunities for others. If Pico stepped in and won that fight, he would have, Yeah, I was going to say, I mean, I can under, I'll say this. It is easy to get lost in a division like that. I'll buy that. But there is, there are enough ways, and we've seen it done to create momentum such that I
Starting point is 01:24:25 somewhat, somewhat challenge the premise of the question. I do. But I think in general, there's something to it. Yeah, but shout out to Brandtendo G. My guy. Let's go the second one here. From at Emery, Nick Six. Luke, do you have a favorite Eve Sixth, by the way?
Starting point is 01:24:39 Inside Outland. I will swallow my pride. I would choke on the runs. In your opinion, who was the most disappointing MMA prospect of all time? And he offers Aaron Pico and Sage Northcutt. That's a tough one. I mean, it's hard to say most disappointing because he had guys who were national champs at heavyweight. Well, Pico was called the greatest prospect of all time.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Okay, but people just say shit. That doesn't mean anything. Mark Ellis was a national champion, and he bottomed out after, I think, one or two fights. That was very disappointing. I had really high hopes. Cole Conrad won a title at Bellator. but then trained with Brock Lesner at, you know, what was there, what was the training environment in Minnesota
Starting point is 01:25:18 called? Called as ball. Death clutch. Death clutch. Yes. Yes. Seemed death clutch. And he was apparently, you know, boss hog down there. Oh, he had farm strength. He had. So him not ever getting to the UFC is a big loss. I do believe that. But, you know, Pico's struggles have been a problem. Tom Dukenwa broke my heart. Tom Dukenwa, Fireball Kid, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:40 I thought also, even though he's kind of made a comeback there, the Korean Superboy, I thought he was going to go. You thought a guy who lived on his chin was going to go? Yeah, I don't know what I was saying. It was so exciting and fun and just was like... What were we going to say, Long Island? I was going to say Thomas Almeida. He had like a bunch of hype around him.
Starting point is 01:25:55 He got that number one contender fight. Yeah, and then he got cracked and then he was never the same again. Also, both people who said they were going to be John Jones's record. We got to give them credit. Edmund Shabazian, he had a lot of hype. He's still out there kind of putting it together a little bit, though. We all know he's never going to be top 10. And the other's Macy Barber.
Starting point is 01:26:13 And the other's Macy Barber. Yeah, who's close to making a comeback. And she had like, there's... She's that medical issue. She's saying it was like life threatening. Yeah, some sort of systemic issue. I don't know what that is. But yeah, those are some decent ones.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Good point, good point. Let's keep it going here. The fun continues from Antonio M. Alvarez, there a couple of periods in between. Which fight is the most disappointing to have lost out on? Tom Aspinall versus John Jones. Tank Shakur or Anthony Joshua Tyson Pure Fury in their prime
Starting point is 01:26:44 You could also add Joshua Deontay Wilder Because that was the biggest fight you can make for years And they never got it done Even though the Zone offered him 100 million Although the Fury one is bigger Yeah In their primes In their prime I mean it's still big but
Starting point is 01:26:56 Man that's a That's been all Jones dude We waited we there was like a two year window Where that was what we were building to And it didn't happen And it's John's fault Yeah I'd say that one or for me, I'm probably going to say
Starting point is 01:27:10 I'm probably going to say Joshua Fury but yeah, Tanks or Kerr would be nice but it's, I don't know. That one feels a little different to me. Don't you guys feel like there was more hype for John versus Ghanu than there was for Aspinall versus John? Yes, John, you're right.
Starting point is 01:27:27 We actually needed that more in the handover of power and the historical all that. Totally. Totally. Damn. Damn. He kind of ducked him too. Yeah. You know, he's going to get his way in the end.
Starting point is 01:27:40 He was begging Dana on the broadcast of dirty boxing, begging. He was like, bro, please, like, let me fight. Do you think they'll let him fight? I know I just adduct in the worst way imaginable. But do you think they'll let him fight Poetana on the White House lawn? I think they'll let him fight Poetan. I don't know about the White House law. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:27:56 Yeah. That kind of seems like the only area it would make sense, right? No. That fight is big enough to put it in a lot of places. Joe Rogan said it's going to be the biggest fight of all time, didn't you? Joe Rogan watches, do you know how much AI slop he falls for? Yes. It's uncanny.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Did you see Valentina got his back on social media for Rhonda on him? Rhonda was taking shots at him. I was like, dude, God, Rhonda. We got a little Rhonda and have you seen the show? What else we got from the fans here? From at Eric Bolden, has UFC or boxing had the better year over all? This is a disastrous year for boxing. Started off with some hits, and it looked like we're going somewhere.
Starting point is 01:28:34 They petered out fast. I've never seen a year. fall apart. What's the last time you had a year this down in boxing? 2014. It was, uh, Rave wrote a piece for Grant and then called the year of suck. And it was just like every fight fell apart, drug test injuries. Um, the best
Starting point is 01:28:48 didn't fight the best because Al Heyman was preparing PBC for the next year. So it was like the Garcia-Salka fight. Like a lot of that kind of lingering stuff. That was just a bad luck year. 2012 suck two. 2016 was bad. Um, nothing. 2013 was when Floyd went to showtime.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Yeah. 2013 was one of, the best year. That was a big year. For me, as a fan who was also kind of working in the industry at those times, 2007, 2013, and 2023 are the three years. Was Cotto Margarito, 08? Yes. That was a fucking good year, too, I recall. Oh, 7 was just insanely great, man. That was Oscar Floyd, Floyd, had.
Starting point is 01:29:29 That fight sucked. Calzagi Kessler. It was just like, Jermaine Taylor, Kelly Pavik. It was just like one banger after a number. after another Antonio Margarito Paul Williams I mean it was just
Starting point is 01:29:40 what 2007 Was it Calzaki who iced Paul Williams? No that was Sergio Martinez Was that 07 as well It's in that era I'm not sure about the exact date on there
Starting point is 01:29:52 But that isn't Can you look that up please The second Paul Williams Sergio Martinez fight Jamie can you please get that He ices him inside the first round Chin can you get that for us Yeah all right
Starting point is 01:30:02 All right no Do you have any more questions from these people? Yeah, real quick. That fight was in November 2010. 2010? That late? Wow.
Starting point is 01:30:13 This was the second and final fight between the two rounds. He knocked them out in the first round? Yeah, first, no, second round. Yeah, one punch, one punch. There we go. All right. Our final one comes from at Christina Pintu. Is it Pinto or Pinto?
Starting point is 01:30:26 I don't know. B.J.J. Would you rather eat an entire meal with Celine, aka the cake lady? That fucking whore. Or be, oh, God. Or be forced to live. in Newark... Oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Is eating a bullet a choice? Or before... So you have to live in Newark Penn Station for a week. Live. Not visit. Live. Let me explain something to you. The answer has to be eat with Celine, the cake lady,
Starting point is 01:30:49 because nothing lives in the New York City Penn Station. Oh, I'm sorry. The Newark Penn Station for a week. They had bulls. Bacteria doesn't even... Bulls were running down like the tracks. El Toro was running down the motherfucking train tracks. I have to say this.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Look, there's homeless issues in a lot of major cities, but the amount of... unhinged people inside the Newark Penn Station who are then going up to like the counter and like causing scenes are, it's a next level. I've never, there's a ton of police there. And it's honestly because obviously you get a lot of this kind of situation with the homeless people
Starting point is 01:31:22 at, you know, these transportation hubs and the urban centers. Everywhere you go. We stayed in Cleveland next to one. Dude, for the first, for the fucking Jake Paul, Tyrone Woodley fight, Showtime put us next to the fucking but, uh, uh, uh, stop.
Starting point is 01:31:36 I couldn't believe it. It's bus station, not bused up. Oh, yeah. And, I mean, it was, you know, I don't know. What do you want to say? It was walking out that place. If you want more on that, go check out documentary number five. But the point I'm trying to make is BC, there's also just like Newark is a poster child for urban decay.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Whereas you get some weirdos in the New York City Penn Station. Hello, I saw a guy shaving his fucking pubes in there in the sink. But, you know, the New York Penn Station. So the answer is, Cake Lady, we got a date. Dude, I don't know, like, I can't ask you. She can eat my balls. Long out, Luke. Like, cake lady, you're a little sneaky?
Starting point is 01:32:15 I don't know. I'm going to leave that alone. Like a little sneaky? My man is like, are you a lunch lady? Because I want to bang you. Like a little, like a little sneaky, right? No? All right, all right.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Can't believe that the guy who eats at Arby's thinks the cake lady is sneaky. Like a little, just a little. Speaking up, I got a lot of requests for you guys to eat steak nuggets on air. Are we into that? Oh, hell yeah. do that next. Why don't I just take a dump in my hand and do an infinite food loop? It needs to be R.Bs branded.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Wow. The answer is, yes, I do it. That's all the DMs from the donks that we can handle today, but you can reach out to our program at morning combat at gmail.com. See below to reach us for Friday's fan subs, dead wrongs, or to just complain about the show or to show my key your package, but please don't do that. Wow. He loves it when you do that. All right. I don't know how this batch is going to work. There have been times I talked a big game and it sucked. I'm talking a small game here.
Starting point is 01:33:10 This is, have you seen this shit? It's not great. We'll do our best with what we found this week. Pick the kernels for yourself. Although, Luke, the history of my life has always been to undersell so that I can surprise and overachieve. You know, maybe this will be one of those. We'll see what it happens. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:33 It was Halloween weekend for Tuki and. everyone around the world. Here, Luke, is the costume of the year. The mega powers take a mega dump. Look at this Savage in Hogan creation. I don't understand what I'm looking at. The best Halloween costume ever. This is, let me see if I understand this. This is macho man Randy Savage carrying a port of John. Yes, of which Hulk Hogan is dropping a deal. And Hogan is taking a dump in the port of John. Yes. So it's the guy, the real guy is both at the same time. Okay, that's pretty good. That's pretty darn amazing. Uh, Luke, Not everybody's offering candy.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Some like your father are offering coupons. What do you make of this 80s set up here? Only one glam cassette per child. I'm going poison, flesh and blood out of that group, right? Seriously question? Do you actually have a cassette player? Currently, no. I don't have one either.
Starting point is 01:34:22 I did somewhat recently. I don't now. I don't have a VHS player anymore. They all broke. Yeah. Big Vinyl guy, though. Big Vinal guy. Also, Luke, we stopped by your house to see what you were offering this year for Halloween.
Starting point is 01:34:34 maximum three puffs per trick or treater you think I would share my vape with these fucking kids you know how much I love the be a man Boston account right they've got a Halloween one today it's like die at the job be a man happy Halloween carve out a pumpkin and take a dump in it be a man that's good shit
Starting point is 01:34:58 carve out of pumpkin carve we'll also submit this East Wing costume for your thoughts, Luke. I got to say, I wouldn't have worn this, but that's pretty fucking good. That's pre-ball room, that costume, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's well done.
Starting point is 01:35:15 All right. Let's keep it going here. Here's your splash of the week. Watch this husky fella in the middle. The one with a gray shirt? Yeah, yeah. He'd run in like a... Oh!
Starting point is 01:35:26 What the fuck was that? Big country. That was great, right? He had too many Arby's steak nuggets. God damn. Luke, I know this is a little. AI. I'm telling you up front, but this is your AI commercial of the week.
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Starting point is 01:35:54 That's AI? Yeah. Oh, you fell for it? I might have. I might have. Come on down to fat, fart cars. Luke, I mentioned, we'll have some rousey. Here's a clip I didn't see until just the other day from the burnt Kreisler one.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Is he crying or is he talking in falsetto like a fucking dumb ass oaf? This is where they blaze the shit out of Dana. Is it fair to say that Dana is the biggest star at the UFC? I think without Dana
Starting point is 01:36:18 its soul is gone. Dana is the heart. Dana is Dana is such an I hope you and Dana are cool. Oh, I love him so much. He is such the, he's everything
Starting point is 01:36:32 you want that fucking guy to be. his intensity his i love you dana but he's still a little bit of a meathead you know who isn't though that like makes you to identify with him more that's why that's why i love the guy is like and he's his energy forever is what he drives him and his vision and the fact that he doesn't give a fuck and he's just talked wild shit and not giving a fuck i love dana white i think he is so but he is the star of ufc yeah but yeah with with when Dana's done, I think the dominant MMA organization
Starting point is 01:37:08 that title will be up for grabs. Yeah. Yeah, because I think Dana is it. Yeah, I don't think. That's the boldest statement she made on the RELMAN. It's a completely insane statement. She's saying that if Dana left the UFC today, and by the way, like people have reported for a long time,
Starting point is 01:37:23 it's like Hunter Campbell making the big decisions that people ascribe to Dana, although he's definitely the face of it, the mascot, the communicator, he's got a legacy. But she's saying if he left today, that within three years, years there would be a new number one
Starting point is 01:37:35 MMA organization. Yeah, I mean, you would have to not know anything about how the business works to think that. That's a wild statement right now. I'm not saying something wouldn't be lost without Dana being a presence in the organization. No doubt about that. I'm not saying of course I do think that. His connection to the audience, all of that. It's like, dude, their market
Starting point is 01:37:52 position is entrenched. That's not changing but for an enormous disruption, which Dana White's departure would be not that. Look, you ever go back and watch home movies from the 80s and just realize it was a different world. We say home movies, you mean like, what? Could be your, you could be your family's home VHS movies.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Could be just old footage. We didn't have a VHS. My whole, oh, wow. My whole point was the 80s feel like 75 years ago. People had different beliefs. Here's some life goals from the 80s. I'll be married. I'll be a doctor. And I'll have to kick. What kind of doctor? Oh, they're going to take us down for this one. You should stop this. Because you're playing, no, no, no, you're playing simple minds in the background. Yeah, but that was like four seconds. It doesn't matter. It could be two, one second. They're going to take us down for that. Even that already might
Starting point is 01:38:35 get us taken down. Well, you blew the joke at the end, Luke. At least we could have enjoyed it. They start. She said, I'm going to die of eight. She said that? She did, okay? And I don't, you know, I didn't think that was right. All right. Wow, this is our worst segment of all time. We'll keep it going here. Luke, you know, people will eat anything these days. Check out this Los Angeles area size. We'll eat stinky puss for $10. Well, you know what? It's a, it's a buyer's market. You know what I'm saying? Well, and the debate still lingers about ass, whether you're in or
Starting point is 01:39:03 out on it. So, Robert, you do not eat ass. I don't eat no ass. Why? You got the bucket. Uh, shit become that up. I'll eat it. Who is that human thumb? Who's excited to eat butthole?
Starting point is 01:39:28 This is the t-shirt of the week off of that topic. Spread cheeks, not hate. Yeah, that is. I'm down with that message. You can get behind that movement here. Speaking of all you can eat, Luke, check out this new Arby's commercial. Anyway, you know what that is?
Starting point is 01:39:42 That's all you can eat under a buck. Arbys, we have the... All right, we're turning this segment around here, slowly. Okay. Luke is time for... Dude, I'm going to hold on all the same. The way she... says, ready? The way she goes
Starting point is 01:40:05 like this. Tell me if I'm wrong. Under a bug. Like, she really laid into it, you know? It's time for M.A. fighters in the wild. We can see whether they are just like us. Here's Nate Diaz backstage at a WWE show. That's badass.
Starting point is 01:40:23 Yeah, that's cool. Who's a belt is that? I don't know. I don't watch it anymore, but that's the only belt he's ever won, unfortunately, for a guy that's a legend, right? A little like that. Yeah, wow. Also, here's not an MMA fighter,
Starting point is 01:40:38 but how about Bud Crawford's World Tour? It's gone all the way to Columbia. Great, his moves. He's got a simple two-step. Oh, someone with the lake. Here we go. Oh. Yeah, I saw him get his belt checked at the airport.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Where is he in? Ben is he? He was in Bolton. Well, the one I saw, he was in Bowman top. He can move. That's that Vaginato music. You don't know shit about that. Also, Poetan was out rolling with John DuPont this week, Luke.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Your thoughts on this? That's at Zuck. Can you believe this fucking... Look at this. Mark, you're never going to be cool. You can be rich. And you can get these guys to John DuPont you, but you're never, ever, ever going to be cool.
Starting point is 01:41:28 He almost went full mile on Pereira right there. Oh, yeah, did he? Is that what he did? No, dude, he's in prison. Did you see the pics? Dude, this looks like he, this looks like a fucking big brother at a, at a make-a-wish of that. It looks really bad.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Okay. Time to catch some fails. Let's go to the bike ramp. That's not a fail. Okay, all right. Now there's that one. Kind of shit. Oh!
Starting point is 01:41:54 K-O-1 right there. Call the dentist. Jesus. Let's go downhill for our next trick. Will it be a trick or a trick? retreat for us. My man's got no motherfucking helmet. Oh, he's going to have road rash. Let's see what tricks
Starting point is 01:42:08 he's got, though. Okay. Oh, holy fuck. He's, I mean, he's dying at the end of this, right? This is the last we see of him. This is going to extinguish the flame that is his life. He went out doing what he loved, though. Look, you got to get him that. Oh, oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:42:26 Did he fucking disintegrate? I don't know, but it wouldn't be the first death we've shown in this segment if so. Wow. He disintegrated. I think he did, yeah. They hit him with a hydrogen bomb. He just fucking... Look, you ever get drunk and do gymnastics in your yard?
Starting point is 01:42:40 My daughter does. Well, not getting the drunk part. I'll get drunk. She does the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:49 My wife will be like, hey, let's go, you know, do something with the tokster. And there'll be a thing that involves me, like, cartwheeling and shit. And I'm like, nope. Nope. No. I'm 40-something years old lady. I'm not doing that shit. Look, it's time to rate that tat.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Ten being a masterpiece, one being get it out of here. There's somebody who got a PFL tat of Alfie Davis with Don Davis in the background. So this is a negative 12,000. Wow. Even with the design and the craftsmanship? This is a negative $8 billion. So you got mad when Mr. Hebas had Emily Whitmire on his forearm. This person has Don Davis on their leg forever.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Yeah, I mean, it's a nice moment for Alfie Davis, who is the fighter pictured. but to have, I mean, dude, he looks like a peeping Tom in this fucking tattoo. Don looks excited. Yeah. Yeah. It's the worst tattoo I've ever seen. Oh, my God. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Let's go to this head tat, Luke, one to ten here. Let's rate it. Well, I don't know what kind of jobs you get with a tattoo like this. However, in terms of the MC Escher. Yes. Visual element of it, I'd give it a solid eight or nine. What do you make of the jaws one coming up his neck? that's closer to a four
Starting point is 01:44:00 Okay okay One final one Luke E.T. phone home time The extra testicle Yo It's nine and a half out of time Someone got a third ball Yeah
Starting point is 01:44:14 We had a guy in college Who had one ball Yeah we had one in high school We called him uni So we called this guy the Unabomber And this was before the Unabomber We'd be like Yo we found him, FBI
Starting point is 01:44:25 There he is The Unaballer? Was he the Unabomber? baller? No, we would call it the Unabomber, but he'd be talking to chicks, and I would literally drunk as fuck. I would go up to him and put my arm around him and be like, yo, you don't know anything about this guy. He's got one testicle and can't wait to show you. He'd be like, get the fuck up off me, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:44:41 But it was great. Dude, I had this roommate, my first apartment for five years is a big time ladies man. He was a lot older than us. He used to go up to you at a bar if you were talking to a chick and he'd step in front of you and go, he don't fuck! And then like try to Mac the girl. And it was like a... Yeah, you hung out with losers. It was a real C-Block. The guy I told you about, by the way, who was a Unabomber, ended up being
Starting point is 01:45:00 a lawyer at Facebook, or now Mena. So he did a right for himself. Luke, they called this Game 7 World Series the best of all time, or up there with it. Did you see any of this back and forth? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My man Yamamoto was fucking just throwing heaters from the mound. Never forget World Series hero, Theo Vaughn.
Starting point is 01:45:15 I don't know if you saw Theo Vaughan's home run last week. What was your reaction to that? Hey, have you noticed? Was that Caitlin Jenner? Who was that? who was that i don't know but it was incredible who was that that was an all-time reaction to that i mean that was i mean what do you wow what do you that's that bit will be like yo what'd you think about benjamin franklin's triple double and people were like i loved it yeah yeah nobody knows
Starting point is 01:45:41 nobody knows anything uh luke have you ever wanted to learn new languages like maybe estonian how'd you say 12 months in estonian cox taste gourd what cox dazed gourd I'm not learning Estonian What the whole thing Oh it's time to rate that commode But we're going to miss the first one And it was the best one of the group But let's go to the next one
Starting point is 01:46:08 This is a toilet at James Madison University Stadium in Virginia That's a 10 out of 10 That's not bad right Is that my you're on the 40 yard line there Yeah like basically the press box dropping a deuce right there How would you not just get a shitty seat and then literally get a shitty seat? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Let's rate this next commode, Luke. It's definitely a mouthful. I'd take a dump in that. Okay, that's a good one. I don't mean to toot anyone's horn, but check out this French horn-inspired one, Luke. A pee-in? That's not bad. You teabagged this one.
Starting point is 01:46:43 I mean, I don't know what you do with that. You can't miss. You just get it in there, and, you know, you... I feel like the splashback on this one with my... If you're not paying close attention. Can you press the buttons? We'll make, can you play notes while you're... You tell me.
Starting point is 01:46:55 All right. All right. Hey, Luke, if you're going to pass out anywhere, never pass out at the Johnny Rockets Diner, all right? I mean, look at this guy. Yo, my man is S.T. Roggelin. Oh, my God. Oh, nice back.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Dude, I've seen that before at, like, the bar. And someone just couldn't hold it together anymore. And they just go. Luke, it's smoke them if you got them. time here at have you seen this shit uh this is how you overdose on weed which is your dream right once again this next statement i'm about to give will serve as my power of attorney i would like to die this way please you could not survive that for more than what 30 seconds i i i hope not yeah i hope so long out look you can't live through this okay so
Starting point is 01:47:43 this i would be willing to do i saw one recently where you stand in a giant bong and they fill up the bong with smoke, but like you literally take it out of it. Yeah, that's what I want. I want to not get out of it. It's one thing if you want to die but like, sure, when I die, I want to die that way, but I don't want to die today. I want to just get high. So like... I feel like life's pretty hard. If I can die that way, I might just
Starting point is 01:48:04 pick it. You ever get your boys together in a pool and then somebody's like, let's do a jerk circle. You're like, instead of that, let's do this. That's good stuff, right? It's like a team effort. Holy shitballs. You'd get in a pool with a bunch of men for this, right? I'd make an exception.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Yeah. Looks like a Dagestani hot tub, right? I like the guy's shirt 24-7. He was almost Beast in 25-8. That's what I'm saying. I also have some Christmas gift ideas for Tukes when you feel she's appropriately ready here. Yeah, I mean, this is not quite the level she's at.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Okay, okay. She's still building princess castles, but this might be next. Oh, all the leaves have fallen, Luke, at least in my backyard. But watch out for these spiky, prickly berries that are on. Oh, first, first, sorry, sorry, first I missed that. Please don't rain. That's a hell of a cloud right there, that dawn cloud.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Sorry. That's that, that's that Rocco-Safreddy crown. Let's go to these sharp berries. This is wild. You do? You do, she don't know what that is, but it's crazy. You don't know what that is, but it's crazy. I've watched that video so often.
Starting point is 01:49:19 It's ridiculous. You love crazy Russians. Yes, I do. Thank you. Remember, this guy picked Russians over Brazilians for attractive women. I did, and I will. Luke, we close with, I once saw this band in 2001. Here's a little ditty.
Starting point is 01:49:34 I like to call Boulevard of melted beans. All right. And I know that that was insensitive, Luke. So I do want to close by saying enough with these conspiracies theories regarding 9-11. In fact, here's a video that should put the debate. to rest. 9-11 was not an inside job. It was an outside job.
Starting point is 01:49:53 It happened outside in New York City. That is true. Thank you, Pai-Yos. End of conversation. Thank you, Pai-Ras. And of segment, Luke. What did you think in the end? I mean, it was a challenging bunch.
Starting point is 01:50:11 You know what? I'll give that a B-minus. Wow. Oh, yeah. I'll give that a B-minus. All right. That's like when you bid and setback, on like a two, four, six, you know, seven, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, all right.
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Starting point is 01:51:14 on our YouTube channels. Long Island Luke, this week's Apex Warehouse card brings a bone theme to the main event. Will you be live streaming that? Hell yeah, we got two bone themes on that card, both of them fighting on this card. Live stream for that.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I'll also have a new prop quiz Friday. We got Danny Segarra versus Jose Youngs to see who goes into the card? What happened of the last one? Did you see that comeback? Heard around the world? And the Bain with a huge comeback win against our brother. What was the score that he was losing to Bronzetter?
Starting point is 01:51:40 It was like almost 2,000 to negative 200. Bronzsetter had like 1,750. Bain was in the negative, and then he went on a run and got like every question right to close the show and dominated. You know what? Ben's surprising.
Starting point is 01:51:53 He'll surprise you. And he was entertaining too. You know what I mean? If I have to meet that guy in the, in the championship for $10? Did you say $10? $20. So I got $100 for winning season one. But if I win the Champions League game,
Starting point is 01:52:05 like the PFL Road to Dubai champion series, it's only $20. That's fair. Yeah, yeah. Prop quiz is the PFL of, It is. We only do brackets. We have 10 champions. You'll never know who's actually the champion. It'll be very confusing. It'll be great. Well, a building with two
Starting point is 01:52:22 buildings, one of whom is balding, double bond theme this weekend. Can we experience live coverage on the Luke Thomas channel? I might. I don't know. My wife is going to be out of town for work. And so I'll be with Tewster and Abuela. So we'll have to see how a boyla can watch her. All right. Well, we will be back this Friday, 11 a.m. Eastern morning combat, live and direct, a remote episode getting you fired up for Bone Theme versus Brown
Starting point is 01:52:46 and I believe also we have Erickson Lubin versus Virgil Ortiz Jr. You know what? Not a bad fight. Very good fight on 154. Not for a title but the winner might get boots in a non-title. That's a title or no, so it's only 10 rounder? I don't know that. You can do 12 round non-tidal fights
Starting point is 01:53:02 but I think that we're building toward an Ortiz boots fight if it all plays out that way that you don't even need a title it's the biggest fight in the division. I hope that we get them because I agree that's the one to get. Maybe the winner fights Fondora? I don't know. I'm just trying to matchmaker, you know.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Boxing used to be a thing. I used to love that sport, you know? Well, it's dying. So, there you go. Like a fetus, fortunately. Hey, Ken's... I want to thank Ken and Nadir as well for their great work today.
Starting point is 01:53:28 You know, they do a great job, especially when you consider that they're not sober, how well they're able to press all the buttons correctly. Ken 6-7 on us here. He's hitting us with that right there. That's great shit. We are morning combat. We'll be here again Friday.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Thank you for joining. Thank you for playing. Luke Thomas, do you have a message to the people, like a word of hope, something? What should they cling on to this week? Their own fecal matter? The love I have for my child makes me so happy. That's great. It's so great to hear.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yes. I mean that sincerely. For Luke Thomas's fatherhood, I'm Brian Campbell. Thank you so much for playing. Take care of yourself.
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