MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Vegas 111 Results: Bonfim Calls Out Covington | UFC 322 Storylines | Eubank vs Benn 2
Episode Date: November 10, 2025LT & BC are back to discuss all things combat sports! We start with Gabriel Bonfim's TKO win over Randy Brown at UFC Vegas 111, before recapping the rest of the card. The guys then look ahead to t...he stacked UFC 322 card this weekend, as well as Eubank vs. Benn 2. Lastly they'll recap Virgil Ortiz Jr.'s dismantling of Erickson Lubin this past weekend.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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LT, again, what can the people expect here?
Wholesome version? Oh, wholesome version. Oh, I have to edit it then.
Well, Oscar Willis is going to be there. I don't know how wholesome it's going to be.
But listen, you've sat through two weeks of betting scandals,
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322, an A-level card, if ever there was one.
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Regrettably, but probably.
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member of our team. A bong enthusiast, producer, director, son of a horned up fellow from
down under. Hey, it's Luke Nocita of main card minute fame. LIL, how are you, buddy? I'm hyped,
guys. I'm hyped for UFC 32 fight week. You know, we just came off a great apex card. And dare I say
great, it was kind of fun, dude. Last few fights were kind of fun. Five for five finishes in the main
card, by the way. The way it looked on paper, it was like, eh. And I feel like it played out like,
oh, that was actually a fun time.
That's what Dana told Nina drama.
Don't explain until the card happens, right, Luke?
That's right.
It's the worst logic imaginable, which would make it defend.
You could defend literally any card ever at that point, you know.
Luke, I saw your buddy 45 slash 47 at the Redskins game yesterday.
Rousing a reaction from the crowd.
Will he be able to change the name of your beloved football team?
I mean, it seems unlikely, but I would never count it out.
the problem you have is number one, just on a basic level,
the naming rights are typically sold for like tens of millions of dollars.
Well, to the stadium, not to the team.
You mean change the name of the team back to the Redskins?
No, you had, you had alerted me that the head of this nation
would like that team to rename its team in his honor.
No, they want to name, he wants the stadium named after it.
Oh, I thought it was going to be like the Washington Trumpeteers or something.
No, no, no, no, he wants the stadium named after him.
But I'm like, just on a practical level.
A, that's at least five years away, potentially more.
And he might not, I mean, I'm just saying he's old.
I don't know what his health situation is going to be like then.
And more to the point, do you have to sell that stuff for like tens of millions of dollars?
Like, yeah, seems, now, might they name the street around it for him or like Trump Field at, you know, whatever park or whatever?
All of that seems possible, but I don't know.
I'd like to see like the Maga Ball.
It'd be like a dome stadium for the commanders.
No.
You could, everyone could take turns.
There's like a, there's a fake Nancy.
Pelosi desk where everyone could go and just take dumps on it.
Just smear stuff across it. Yeah, that's great. That's fantastic.
Luke, any quick update on your life or any, you know, mental revelations you've come upon
lately?
I finished a couple of books over the weekend that I was really trying to sit down and read
my wife left for a business trip.
And so, but, you know, obviously we got, I got some help here with our boy,
so I took some time to just read over the weekend.
Oh, my God. You know, how great that felt just to, like, quietly spend a night being
able to like pour over my books it's like the happiest it made me in a quite quite some time i was really
i think i lost the attention span to read luca that's an unfortunate situation you know what let me say
something very quick about that that's a real thing absolutely that's a real thing it's called reading
stamina but like anything else you can actually just train that just set a clock read five minutes at
a time then 10 then 15 then 20 to 30 you don't need to read more than an hour if you don't want to
that's like really i would say a good goal to get to but you could absolutely get all of that back
You just have to focus.
All right.
I'll learn how to retrain my dragon here.
Luke and get back into reading.
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Topic number one, though, takes us back to the apex, the warehouse.
It was UFC fight night on Saturday, a welterweight main event pairing first-time
headliners as Gabriel Bonfim of Brazil sent a statement of sorts to the rest of the division
with a brutal second round TKO of Rude Boy Randy Brown and the number 14 ranked
Bone Feme fulfilled his pre-fight prediction of a second round.
stoppage by systematically breaking brown down with calf kicks before finishing it via knee strike.
Now riding a four-fight win streak, six-in-one overall in the UFC.
Here's my question to you, LT.
What was the major difference that you saw between the version of Bonefim on Saturday night
and the one who had struggled enough, whether it be the disputed win over Stephen Thompson
or the loss to Nicholas Dalby, where we had legitimate questions coming into this fight?
I, I, I'm not, well, it's a great question because I'm not sure if we learned something, I mean, you always learn something new in a new fight. So I don't, I don't mean it in that sense. But I mean, this is kind of the issue, right? Randy Brown was just kind of always in range the whole time. And he got his leg chewed to pieces as a consequence. Right. And, and so the point I'm trying to make is through his pressure or Bonfine being able to pull him, it's stylistic.
worked out in a way that was pretty advantageous for him.
And I realize he made an adjustment in the second part of the fight or whatever, the second round.
But the point I'm trying to make BC is how much of what we saw from Bonfem's very good performance here,
because that's what we should say.
It's clearly a strong return you got there.
How much of that was from some kind of leveling up process that happened either before or during the bout itself
or how much of it was due to some stylistic influence.
is kind of creating the circumstances that you've got, I tend to lean more towards the latter
in that case, more than the former, in part because I would need to see someone that wasn't
necessarily stylistically giving him things to work with more easily and then seeing how he
overcome some of that. And we didn't really get an opportunity for that. But like, you know,
BC to the point that you asked, like, what did you get from Bonfim? The leg kicks, I thought, were
I mean, he just kept going back to it over and over and over and over again. But more than that,
You saw eventually Randy Brown trying to throw a lot in combination in these exchanges.
And, you know, at times Bonfim took the bait, but not really.
He got the better of those, the vast majority of the times, or to bear minimum, you know,
certainly avoided the worst.
And it made Brown resort to worse and worse and worse, either habits or choices to the point
where he was bending over at the end.
Then he got fed that knee and got polished off.
Bonfim had fed him that knee earlier in that fight and it landed, but not to the same degree.
So to me, it was a very, very great example of what you can get in the UFC when someone has, I would say, a diverse array of targets who tends to take offense by the scruff of the neck and then apply it.
I'm just not sure I saw anything there that told me, oh, the guys who he lost to, oh, he'd beat them now.
Maybe, but I'd need to see it, actually.
I saw stuff.
I got to be honest with you.
All right, let's hear it.
With my white bell eyes.
Look, there had been some
inconsistencies in Gabriel
Bonefine's game, sometimes too aggressive,
different things that have maybe led to
the one defeat and, of course, the questionable
win over Wonderboy. And it's one thing
to say ahead of a fight. I mean, by the
way, we'll talk about Myra Buono Silva
briefly. She said she almost guaranteed
she was going to get a stoppage win on Saturday.
I'm not even think she's going to be employed anymore after
that loss. So it's one thing to say
I've made these changes. I've learned
these lessons from these tough fights.
It's another thing to apply
apply it. I thought Bonfeme applied it. He wasn't overly aggressive. He came out in more of a
counter stance, obviously focusing on that calf. But if you think about it under the terms of
the way Dominic Crusoe eloquently presented it, and by the way, a fight night without
a biz ping was, wow, thank you. Lord, on that one, the biggest advantage for Randy Brown
was going to be striking head to head specifically behind that nearly six inch reach advantage.
So how did Bonfim take that away by constantly going after the calves and slowing him down
and keeping him out of rhythm.
I think Brown thought Bonfim was going to come after him aggressively.
Instead, he came at him very calculated, very poised, never really overly rushed it,
didn't put himself in a position to gas out, although obviously the fight only went
around and a half so we didn't see where it was going to go from there.
But it was like really damn calculated and precise, in my opinion,
using those advantage to hurt and slow down Brown, even if Brown was taking an unconsciousable
amount of those kicks without checking all of them.
And what did that do?
That set him up for the finishing strike in the second round.
I saw somebody who was confident, but mixed with that confidence was the poise and knowing
that I have to execute when I climb to the higher levels.
And I don't think Randy Brown's a world beater.
He's a good fighter.
He's a tough out.
So you can only take so much from this.
But if this is the direction Bonefam is going to go moving forward, that in my opinion,
he's moving forward directly into the direction of title contention.
Or maybe not true title contention in the top three or four.
but top 10 contention, which is not nothing here,
coming in ranked 14th, coming out of it,
looking for a big fight.
And we'll get into that big fight in a second.
But when we say things like this lower third below of sending a statement,
do you believe in that?
Do you agree with that?
Was there a statement sent at the very least to the rest of the division
that I'm closing up the holes in my game
and figuring out how to make my strengths more efficient, more effective?
I'm less convinced by this analysis.
It was passionate and well delivered with a lot of...
Yeah, I mean, I think there's something to be said for.
Like, he wasn't reckless.
I mean, this is what I'll give you, right?
Like, he was absolutely methodical.
And I think that's really the important part.
He had a clear idea of what he wanted to do in this fight and executed it on it really well.
Like, that to me is like what I saw.
Is a guy who, okay, here's my...
plan and I'm going to apply it steadily consistently and in this case very successfully
throughout the duration of the bout took a little bit of time but once he got going it was
never looking back that to me is actually quite important but dude we're talking about 170 like
just realistically bc looking at the top 10 who do you favor him over in that space long out long
island you got the rankings up we always i can get him up coby's number 10 i know that much because he
called out Kobe i think gilbert's 11 uh protest is nine morales is eight buckley is seven
gary is six no no you didn't feel like this was the beginning of him going into the direction
of being a more complete fighter i would say that i could not rule that out i think that's on the
table but i what you're asking me is did i feel like i saw enough proof everyone's going to be
different me personally no i didn't see it it sounds like i'm
backing on the guy he had a great performance in fact this was like i mean you could do he he put his
stamp on the fight early and let's be honest brown was never in it there was really never a moment brown
was like really pushing back on him brown kind of survived and neutralized at times for sure but he didn't
really ever put it on bonfine bonfine put it on him but given the way that brown was fighting and given
some of the other limitations that we know about bonfine and and this is the important part given how
effing stacked
170 is, I think we need
to be a little bit more cautious
in what we're saying this means for the future.
It's a tough road ahead
of him, even if I grant,
he certainly performed very well on Saturday night.
Yeah, I thought it was a very impressive step forward
in the direction we need.
We'll see where he goes from there.
We'll talk about the chaos that could be next for him.
But first, quickly, I do want to talk about
the stoppage from Mark Smith, which I do agree
in real time had me going, whoa, whoa,
what's going on here,
because bumping fell at the exact same time as Brown when their feet tangled,
I thought it took just one look at a replay to realize that Mark Smith made the right call.
I mean, look, when you look at this still picture of the idea that Brown was concussed on the way down with the knee
and that maybe it took hitting his head on the canvas to wake back up.
And even though he did wake back up, his eyes did not seem to be in the, you know, as clear as possible.
What were your thoughts in totality on the stoppage?
I definitely wanted to see it a second time, but actually, I even tweeted as much.
I thought in real time it looked okay to me, but I actually thought I had more doubt about it when they showed the replay, because as you indicate, by the time,
referee Mark Smith is there separating the two, Brown begins to roll to his base, right?
But at the same time, I think it's a good stoppage.
We kill referees when they make bad ones.
I'm not saying this is like the most excellent stoppage I've ever seen, but I think in general he definitely got it right.
It's a tough situation.
the issue is whenever you have falling what you always want to look for I think it's like it's one thing but it's one and a half things which is uncontrolled falling body weight is going to be the kind of thing that a referee is going to notice because that indicates you're not really in control of your faculties you know even if you get flash knocked down but like you just sit to your butt and you're right back up there's still some method of control on the dissent and the and the reconstituting of the position very quickly brown like
went all the way backwards and then his head snapped back and that's the second part bc is when
they have uncontrolled head head like collapsing backwards like that these are terrible signs and a
referee sees that they're gonna intervene especially if he's right there close and he probably heard
how loud it was or was able to see randy brown's eyes as you indicated but that falling body weight
with the uncontrolled head going back man you got to give referees a break if that kind of thing
happens, you know, even if you didn't like the call, again, I have no problem with it.
Even if you didn't like the call, just that demarcation line is going to make it real difficult
for me. I thought the replay confirmed that it was the right call. You're telling me that you
thought the replay brought more questions? Again, there's no point where I thought it was a bad
stoppage. I think it's a good stoppage. What I'm saying is what I was looking for was at the moment
of intervention by the referee, what was Brown showing in terms of his faculties? And the answer is
not enough like the stoppage was good but it was better than it was on the descent right like if you
watch the replay his eyes go like like you know one way and the other and then when he turtles and then
looks up eventually he's a little bit more with it but obviously the stoppage already happened to the
point again i'm saying did mark smith make uh did he act on a reasonable basis to call a halt to that
contest i absolutely think that he did yeah brutal brutal strike it really was flush seemed to not
came out on the way down as we mentioned after the fight you got it not only the in cage
call out of the somehow still ranked colby covington but you got a little uh force put behind
that a little spice sprinkled on top yeah you know what i'm going to do i'm going to make
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shots fired brought you by quervo now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that in
invented tequila. Here is Gabriel Bonfim at the post-fight press conference explaining
why. He not only wants Colby Covington next, he wants to put him out of the business for good.
Saw the Colby Covington call. It's a great call, man. So what about that call really? What about
Colby? Sorry, made you really want to call him out and obviously you want to, wanting to fight him.
We've heard him. Why do you want to talk with him? What do you want to call him?
Ah, it's the only guy that's practically available, uh, in true rank. And it's a guy
He's the guy that's travaing the category.
I think he's the one that's holding up the weight class.
He's the one not fighting, holding up, he's ranked,
is holding up the weight class,
and I need to be the one to retire him.
And would you say there's a little bit of added motivation
from what he said about Brazil a couple years ago?
I think he was a lot of money
that he said some years ago.
Exactly, he merits a corrective.
Absolutely, he needs to be corrected
and I'll do that.
Coventon, of course, is 37 years old,
hasn't fought in what is a lot.
approaching a year and has lost five of his last seven, although he continues to be ranked
to number 10 right now in this division. Not everyone loved this callout, however. Let's bring
in friend of the program, Abron, Aaron Bronstetter, who hits a Twitter afterwards and said,
calling out Kobe Covington in 2025. Five is like calling out Terrence Crawford for a boxing match
wasted mic time. Luke, do you agree with A.B's take right here?
I don't understand the comparison.
But,
but, oh, okay, okay, okay.
So what he's saying is
calling out Crawford is a waste of time.
Not because Colby and Crawford are situated
in similar ways within their respective sports,
but that it's not,
it's going to elicit the same kind of non,
non-committal response, or no response at all.
Yeah, there's probably some truth of that.
Although I actually feel like, I mean,
what is my level of interest in Bonfeme versus Colby?
I wouldn't say it's particularly high, but B.C., if you're Bonfeme and you see that,
we have to back up a second here.
Why is Colby Covington still ranked?
This is insane to me.
This is like the most outrageous, ridiculous, what is happening here kind of moment.
So if you're a Bonfeme and you see that there's this kind of weirdness in the rankings market
and you just had a nice win, which we could all say no matter what, it was a very nice win,
why wouldn't you call him out it may yield nothing i understand that like a colby might have to look
at that and say bonfeme who cares but if i'm bonfeme i'm at like what is the easiest fight he can get
in that division in the top ten i realize that well you can just say the tenth ranked guy in this
case but even if the rankings were shuffled a little bit more i would still point to colby
in that position brilliant call actually i disagree with ab and the most the biggest reason why
for me is first of all he explained it get a guy out of the rankings that a nobody likes be that shouldn't
be in there and why is he in there? You could always argue because he's the perfect villain B-side
for somebody on the way up. He's a gatekeeper at this point. Also, some people argue that when you
get paid a lot of money, and Colby certainly does, they'll keep you in the top 10 to justify
paying you that much to put you in fights where you can do what I said, put over the younger
fighters. But the biggest reason I agree with this callout at this exact moment is because this
Saturday at UFC 322, we have three welterweight fights on the main card, all of which affect the
top 10 of the rankings, including a must-see title fight.
So the point of that being, there's not going to be a bunch of immediately available
ranked fighters.
Why don't you pick out the type of name that will draw some crossover interests that'll
put your name over by getting the rub against them?
What casual M.M.A fan has heard is Gabriel Baumfim right now.
Yet he's riding a four-fight win striker and has now some consecutive victories over some
decent names.
To me, that's the perfect way.
You beat an old guy.
You get the rub.
then you catapult in there to the type of, you know, mid top 10 opponent that can take you literally into the title picture.
So I had no problem with it.
Some of that for me, too, is that I also just want Colby out of these rankings.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Long Island, look, you've been speaking in our private chat.
Why don't you just say it to these people's faces?
Well, everyone's wondering why Kobe's still number 10.
I mean, he lost a title fight to Leon Edwards, who's still ranked number four.
And he lost to Joaquin Buckley last December, who's ranked number seven.
And like, I'm not saying he deserves that spot,
but he has fought within a year and he lost the two top 10 guys.
It's not like he's losing the scrubs.
Yeah, but he hasn't been a top 15 guy.
Sure, Los Vidal was his last win.
You're right.
But yeah, I mean, dude, he's not doing, compare his record of activity and achievement
to literally anyone around him.
It doesn't make any sense.
I'm not justifying it.
I'm just saying, well, I guess I am.
But I'm not saying, a little bit.
I'm not personally justifying it.
I'm just saying I see why he's still ranks, if that makes any sense.
Yeah, dude, I would love to be ranked off.
of just fucking losing.
That'd be sick, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Brian Ortega gets that a lot, unfortunately, as well.
They love leaving these veterans in there,
although I guess I can kind of understand the strategy
connected to that right there.
We do have some words here post-fight from Gabriel Bonfim
about his performance and how he is progressing and evolving.
I'm very pleased with all this.
I feel great.
The main event, a great performance, a great finish.
Let's go to the next one.
I'm a guy of a trocaation.
My strength is my game.
My essence is from striking, my background is from striking, and I believe in a game plan.
I follow my strategy, and it happened.
I knocked him out.
Ah, I was very tranquil.
Nothing different to me.
I prepared for this.
I trained for the main event.
I was visualizing the main event, so I trained for it.
I was prepared for it.
There was really no difference.
I felt great.
I don't know what he thinks, guys.
I said, I believe.
I'm a guy from the, I like trading.
I'm a striker.
I approved with Josh Thompson.
Now I approved with Randy Brown.
And I'm here to keep getting better.
and bring the next guy.
Every fight is a learning to for me.
I believe every fight is learning to for me.
Even the wins and the loss, the loss of Dalby put me on different level.
I knew that I had to level up.
And that's what I think.
I level up every time.
Every fight I get better.
And every fight I evolve and I grow, so I can get better the next fight.
I think there's a top 10.
Well, I believe I deserve a top 10.
I really have been fighting around to deserve top 10,
but we'll see what they do.
I'll keep doing what I'm doing and get it.
what i'm doing and getting better and waiting for name love that he called wonder boy josh thompson
there by the way a little little slip of the tongue uh for the only man to uh finish nate d as via
head kick uh luke to close on the bone theme discussion if he doesn't get colby but does get
an additional top 10 opponent wouldn't wakkeem buckley be the perfect fight coming off a loss to
usman which snapped a six fight win streak that would kind of be the perfect next step let's see
what you got about against that style do you disagree i mean honestly
honestly, I don't know what the promotion wants for Bonfeme, which really is maybe the most important
consideration here. But dude, do you pick him over number 11 Gilbert Burns?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
Long Island, would you pick him over Burns?
I'd have to see the odds, but I will say Gilbert has kind of let me down a lot in his last
I mean, he's definitely, he's almost 40 for crying out loud. Like it's, you know, he's long.
I don't know. I would need to see it. Jeff Neal's also sitting at 12. Like, I don't know, man.
I would want to see, I mean, Buckley is sitting at seven.
Yeah, Jeff Neal's a tough fight for him.
I'd fully agree.
Yeah, maybe Jeff Neal and then we'll go from there.
Our boy, Gilberto, has lost four in a row and has been stopped in two of those, Luke.
So it's like, you know, I love Gilbert Burns.
The dude's 39 and.
Yeah, he's old.
I mean, he's on, I mean, literally he's on his second professional career.
The first one was in jujitsu.
Just don't, just don't judge Gabriel by what his bro's been doing, which is.
Well, clearly of the Bonfeme brothers,
Gabrielle is the one that's got some upside.
We can at least a real map for sure.
It's good old Ismail turning into Lance Evans over there.
Shout out to that guy.
All right.
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It is the UFC Apex Undercard.
Highlighted here by the co-main event,
how about Flyweight Joseph Bopo Morales,
making quick work of veteran Matt Schnell
in a first round submission win,
improving to 2-0 in his second stint with the UFC
and the tough season 33 winner.
Pretty much made it look.
easy from start to finish for as long as it lasted and it didn't last that long.
Bopo went on to say, quote, that he matches up great with current flyweight champion
Alexandre Pantosia.
How much of a threat do you believe the 31-year-old Morales is appearing to be Luke now that he's
riding a five-fight win streak and seems to be very comfortable here in his second stint in the
octagon?
Yeah, I got to say, this is, this was a nice win, the way he was able to capture the crucifix,
the way he was able to finish BC
like on the finish, he knew
which way, I mean, you understand
like when you work crucifix positions like
that, you begin to troubleshoot
what the escapes tend to look like or the resistance
to it. And what you can tell from
that is he is so well versed from
that position that he knows what
majority what their opponents
are going to do and which way they're
going to roll. So he allows him to come
to his base so that he can lock up
the guillotine choke, dude, that was real slick.
That was real, real slick.
You know, the guy wins the ultimate fighter on a split decision,
but then to the point you raise comes out here and he's got back-to-back submissions
and two fights, but both from this year, I thought this was very impressive.
Again, these apex cards with guys who are, you know,
outside traditional rankings placement makes it a little hard to know
what it means for the future and what it does for their placement.
But I can just say that was, Matt Schnell's is a experienced opponent
who's beaten some good guys for sure.
you know, the only issue for me is he's kind of floated with retirement than unflirted with it.
So that, you know, always creates a question of my mind about, you know,
if you're going to get the best version of themselves.
But nevertheless, he is still a good opponent, a credentialed one.
And Morales kind of ran the table on him.
That was very, very impressive for me.
Yeah, Long Island, Luke and I want to correct you quickly and just saying,
Morales from the semi-final of tough by split.
Ah, excuse me.
I apologize.
The final, which counted as an official UFC fight was the stop.
That was the I here. Fair enough.
Fair enough. Yeah, very good performance out of there.
But I do have to ask you this, Luke.
He was very confident.
By the way, challenged the UFC in the post-fight interview to bring the promotion back to Sacramento,
which had me question like, oh, yeah, he's right.
We don't see them there in that in that MMA hotbed often.
Is that because Strike Force had put their flag down there so aggressively, Luke, or not?
I mean, I feel like Strike Force is more of a Bay Area promotion.
Scott Coker was a season ticket holder for the Warriors.
No way, dude.
He was Sacramento.
They lived and died in Sacramento for a while.
They lived and died in San Jose.
Oh, you're right.
I'm confusing San Clemento and San Jose.
Like I often do.
He was right or die for San Jose.
I went to the Tito Ortiz.
Fair.
Who was the,
who was the Bellator Light Heavyweight,
the tall, lanky one that he beat?
Liam McGarry, I think it was his name?
Yes, that's right.
I went to that one in San Jose and there was posters,
or not posters, I should say,
advertisements all over town for it.
Yeah, my fall on the Sacramento was screw up.
there. The UFC was last in Sacramento, according to Long Island Luke in July of 2019,
Jermaine Duran to me, that quick finish of Aspen Ladd in the main event right there.
All right. Luke, real quick to close on Morales here, he appealed to the kids with this
six, seven celebration. Did that turn you off at all? And what do you think of his inventive
chest here? Just having the Vigene in the middle of his pecks there covered, but nothing else.
It's kind of like Kimbo, who, you know, really revolutionized different.
chest hair designs. People, this is Brian Ebersol erasure. You guys don't remember Brian Ebersol,
but he actually was the first one to do arrows, I think. Maybe he did it after Kimbo. I can't
quite recall, but he was doing a lot of different inventive stuff. The six, seven thing is what my
daughter does. So, you know, just for clarification, it would have popped with that audience.
All right. Let's keep it going down here. Let's go to the Walterway division.
Eurostmedich admitted post-fight that he was, quote, super scared of Muslim Salikov yet delivered
a 63 second,
K.O. Has the doctor become
a 170 year worth
watching, or do you believe he's still
in Feaster Famine mode where he
wins by K.O. and then gets K.O. in the next
fight. I
thought this was a nice win. He just marched
him down, dude. He marched him down
and had him backed up against the fenceer pretty close
to it, and then landed a big overhand,
sat him down, then finished him off. Dude, this was
real good from Euros Medich.
I love this performance from him.
And I love the callout, too. It didn't work
because he didn't get the bonus, but he was like,
how am I not getting bonuses? You just look at my
fights and one way or the other, these bammas are not going to
decisions. You know what I mean? Like I'm a deliverer of action.
And in this particular case, I thought he had a great argument for it.
Again, hard to know what it means exactly about, you know,
where the returning corners, but he put two wins together. He's got his three out of
his last four. Let's see if he can keep winning as he escalates.
That's always the most important thing, yeah.
Speaking of bonuses that never came, Chris Taco Padilla used the entirety of his
post-fight interview to literally beg the UFC for the 50K bonus saying it would allow him to
move his mom out of a trailer park.
What was ultimately more sad in your eyes?
The fact that he put on that performance literally begged for it and did not get the 50K
or the fact that his opponent, Ismail Bonefim, missed weight by five rounds and then
completely gassed out in round two.
Five pounds.
Five pounds.
You said five rounds.
I thought Chris Padilla, Taco looked.
really, really good here. As you indicated, his record is starting to look a lot more
impressive. So he's never lost in UFC as the LX5. Yeah, he has no losses in UFC. He made his
debut back in April of 2024. As we indicated on Friday, you know, the Jai Herbert win was nice,
but I didn't see necessarily, you know, he beat Rong Zhu and James Yontop. These are fine wins as a
starter pack kind of operation, but you didn't really know what it means. But as you
indicated short notice opponent misses comes in here and just forcefully puts it on him i mean i don't
know what's not to love i i think it's been pretty instruct oh by the way long island lucas saying
chris bedia has been a dog in all four of his ufc fights and is four and oh let's go let's go man
this is exactly the kind of underdog story you want this this thing is apparently there's belief
again i don't think i don't know if there's a official ufc policy but there's some
some kind of belief that if the fighters beg for bonuses in post-fight, they won't get,
they won't get money. And obviously, that there appears to be, if not a written rule,
some kind of informal adherence to that. I would say a couple of things. I mean, first,
I think it's kind of instructive that the UFC's response to fighters begging for money
is penalization and not better pay. I think people should take a little moment to sit with that.
and the other one I would say here is BC like whatever your view on fighter pay is I hope everyone
understands it at nothing and I do mean nothing will change unless they are forced to change
unless there is a court order and like for example with the anti or not antitrust but the
class action lawsuit like unless there's that kind of mechanism or a law is passed or something
unless the force of law is brought to the table
as a way to remedy pay disputes
or, you know, pay shortages,
whatever you would like to describe it,
it's going to be what it's going to be.
And I hope everyone is at least understanding
of that basic fact.
I mean, if you can't get it from the organization,
you might as well get it from the guy
with the trench coat in the alley outside the apex
who's offering your 70K to throw the fight.
All along out, look, let me read to you the four people
who received 50K bonuses on Saturday.
and you tell me if they deserved it more than taco are you ready sir i'm ready yes gabriel bonfim
yes yes c ld yes yes josh hoakett no no because his opponent sucked and he's like beats everyone
by finish but it was a nice knockout he folded he looked fine but but but padilla really looked good
okay and how about the curtain jerker zach rice who in a catchweight fight absolutely not
submitted jackson mcvay so it seems like they maybe they did hold it against him
for calling them out.
What are they factoring in here?
Because Zach Reese got his ass beat in the first round.
He was an underdog going into round two, came back and won.
He was a huge favorite to start that fight, by the way.
So, like, are they like, oh, he showed resilience.
He came back and won.
Like, Chris Badea accepted his opponent missing weight by five pounds, still took the fight
and finished the dude.
And still, that's bullshit, man.
I thought it was pretty sad.
He didn't get it.
I also didn't like that he had to beg that aggressively for it.
He had a post-fight press conference talk where he was crying, talking about his mom,
And I mean, I get it from the organization.
You can't bully them into a corner,
but it continues to show the disparity in the sport
and the fact that guys like Taco de Padilla
who are trying to become legitimate contenders
sometimes can't even afford the training camps necessary
to be in a position to do that.
Yeah, can we just sort of back up here?
I mean, there was obviously no betting discrepancies this week,
which was great to see.
I'm very good.
No weird refereeing.
Again, you can debate about the Mark Smith stoppage in the main event,
but it didn't appear weird.
to me, no matter what position you come to, it seemed to me like one of those sort of standard
MMA cases. But there was a suggestion last week. Again, there's just people in the sport who are
absolutely immune to evidence. And there's nothing you can say to them about fighter pay that
will really get them to budge. But A, I'm going to say one, I think the worm is turning a little bit
on this. I'm beginning to see more fans who have recognized there are these limits that exist for
a company that is flush with cash probably shouldn't be as egregious as they are. But more to the
point BC, we were talking about this last week, which is people make this argument about folks
who throw fights as like, oh, this is one of integrity. And yet, obviously, integrity is, if not
the most important component, certainly chief among them, right? I mean, yes, if you're willing to
engage in criminal behavior, then this speaks to something about your character. However, the point
to be made here is people who are in financial distress or people who can be financially leveraged
are clearly much more likely to engage in that kind of behavior.
And you can see that this class of fighter good enough to make it and win at the UFC,
but not good enough to make a lot of money,
you can see why they would be vulnerable as prey to the betting predators,
so to speak, wherever they may be,
and why this particular subgroup of fighter is being targeted.
It's really not very difficult to see that.
They're open, they're ripe for the picking, given the financial,
limitations that they face day in, day out.
I would agree with you on that one.
Speaking of CLD, the middleweight Christian Leroy Duncan, when his third straight
fight, including his second consecutive spinny shit, K.O.
By brutally ending Marco Tullio, first we do have a cage side fan footage of the stoppage,
if you want to talk about.
Some people thought it came too late, thinking that Tullio took too much of a beating.
But Luke, will you say this as you watch it?
Is it time at the very least for CLD to get a way?
Wikipedia page. Is he coming on? Yeah, CLD look real good. This was a real nice win. I like this one
from him. He really put it on him. He was clever. He was physical. You know, he had Tullio kind of on his
heels or at a bare minimum thinking a lot about what he wanted to do. And the guy was, you know,
he was laying heavy lumber to him. So I really liked this fight. I, in this performance in particular.
Again, some of these guys on these cards, man, they're quietly putting together,
if not the most impressive runs you've ever seen, maybe not that,
but real redemptive, real important, you know,
in the trenches kind of work in their career and it deserves to be more broadly recognized.
Hey, speaking of trenches and speaking of redemption,
how about 38-year-old Hione Barcellos?
I couldn't believe this one.
Yes, who co-delivered with Ricky Simone an absolute Bannamweight banger
over three rounds, which featured high technical and defensive skills
and just a ton of accurate output.
But in the end, Barcellos winning a close decision to extend that current win streak to four.
So much so that he's going to get some sound on this show right now talking about it.
I'm very happy.
I feel great.
I literally closed the year with the Golden Key.
I have three wins in this year.
So showing everybody that now I'm ready for our top contender, a ranked fighter, and I'm ready for that.
I think my maturity.
I think what differentiates is experience.
Have a lot of experience.
And these guys come in and I'm ready to.
to fight them. Here's the deal. I have, I'm like wine. I think the older I get, the better
I get, the more experience I get. So I feel like my experience is making a big difference
in these wins versus these guys. And I'm just getting more experience. So I'm just going to keep
getting better. Ricky has a style very similar to mine. So I know he's going to come high
pace with the rest, with the boxing. But we studied it a lot. So I focus on my boxing. I use my
boxing more. My takedown defense. I did get some takedowns. And he got back.
like up on the feet, but that was my strategy to use my boxing better.
It worked for me.
So I feel great.
So I would like to keep it going.
I don't want to stop.
So I'll be ready to fight, probably March, January next year.
I'm proving to everybody that I'm going to stay in shape.
I'm ready to go.
Like why, you know, just keep getting better with age.
And I'm ready for 2026.
Do the same thing I did this year.
Look, in theory, this shouldn't have happened.
Yet he had a beautiful body punch attack.
That right upper cut was on the money.
How impressed were you overall with the fact that he seems to be getting better with age?
I couldn't believe it.
I thought this was where the buck was going to stop.
And, you know, I'm not saying there's a scorecard for, for Simone, but what did you have?
It is the third round being the swing round?
That's how I kind of saw it.
It was 29, 28 on all three scorecards.
And I agree with that.
Give him one and three.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, Barstulles, I gave him two and three.
Two and three.
That's right.
I'm sorry.
Yes.
Yeah.
I think that's right.
So to me, I was so impressed, as you indicated, like, dude, he just seems a lot more
buttoned up.
They're just the pieces of the game connect more easily.
He's not as frustrated by a failed attack.
He can reconstitute attack much easier than he did before.
Again, he seems much more defensively aware.
I'm amazed by his cardio, but I can't believe this guy is peaking near 40,
but by God, that's exactly what he's doing.
He's earned a big fight here, and BC, I would argue, on a much bigger card,
and certainly a much better placement on a much bigger card.
You don't see old guys out there, you know,
providing a ton of value like this good for him and again how far can he take it i thought it was
going to stop on saturday but he's off to the races let's see how far he can push it i love it i'm all
in on this story this is fun and he's getting better like we say every time look the next topic
probably should be a talk about jacqueline cavalcanti improving to 10 in one and five and oh in the
ufc as maybe a legitimate women's ban on wake contender but it's hard not to lead with the myraub
O Silva part of it.
She fought for a vacant UFC title last year, January of 2024.
And since then, she's winless in five with four consecutive defeats.
Don't forget, by the way, she gassed out in that Rocky Pennington title fight in round
two, which was super disappointing.
And on Saturday against Cavalcanti, she was lifeless.
She refused to cut down the distance.
She got beat up from the outside.
She didn't seem to have a strong gas tank for the three rounds.
and this was after all but guaranteeing a stoppage win
and saying the very best of her was about to come.
Luke at age 34, forget about the very vest of her.
Is this the last of her?
In probably a fall off that I can really only compare to Hennon Barow,
although he had achieved much more.
He was an interim and then full champion
and pound for pound ranked.
But I cannot remember somebody falling off this aggressively
from legitimate title contention to full on lifelessness.
Yeah, and again, it's not like she's getting, she had the one stoppage, as you indicated, via cut to Macy Chiasin, Chaison.
Shazahn, yeah, Shazahn. I'm teasing.
But in other words, it's still kind of hanging on, but B.C., I don't know how you felt. I thought she looked lifeless.
I thought she looked kind of out of ideas. I thought she kind of looked, like, I'm not saying she was ever a physical bruiser.
That's not quite true, but she didn't have much of that either.
I don't know if she's had problems with weight cuts, BC, and it's really messed her up.
You know, maybe she's made the weight, but it messed her up.
I don't know, but to your point.
Well, there was a situation in Saudi where she, women weren't allowed in the sauna,
so they had to dress her up like a man to be able to have a chance at cutting weight for that one.
Yeah, that's a little different.
That's a little different.
But the point I'm trying to make is she might be done.
She might be done.
I, you know, I've seen redemption stories.
I've seen people turn it around 34.
She shouldn't be that far out of her prime.
but the way she's looking it's not just that she's losing to good opponents which would
be one thing she's losing to good opponents in what are otherwise deteriorating and lifeless performances
and that's the part that i'm like you know it's not like dude imagine she would lost the first
two rounds because she got battered but then would surge in the third or something like that that's
really not what you're seeing you're not seeing someone who can rally you're not seeing someone
who can sustain an attack for crying out loud you're seeing someone who's got to
got some ability, but it's just powered by an engine and I think a fire more broadly that
appears to be missing. Yeah. I mean, Shodzakovalcante in a dead division. She's on a nice
little run. We'll see if she continue it. But I don't even feel like she looked great. And
Dominic Cruz was kind of ripping both fighters for not stepping on the gas and closing the distance.
And I think he was right. Luke, former NFL player who had a brief run there. And former regional
maga post fight screamer josh hoit had a very successful heavyweight debut here in the ufc making
quick work of a fellow debut ton in uh what was the guy's name he menace jimenez you got to say
look fast hands power athleticism i didn't love the post fight you know copy and paste chel sun
in rap but what do you think about josh hokit's upside in this division again he
wrestled at the collegiate level he appears to be a good athlete he has a good athlete who's relatively
young in a division where youth and good athleticism is in short supply um i don't know what the
win means i didn't think he deserved to get the bonus relative to the other folks on this card
who i thought performed in better and in more difficult circumstances but whatever you get the
idea i you know it was a nice win he should go far
but I don't know what it means.
Like Greg Hardy looked good on the Contender Series, you know,
and then before everything really fell apart,
you were like, oh, wow, this guy could be a great thing.
But we need to see.
So nice win.
Doesn't mean much.
Well, he called out the explosive Walter Walker after the fight,
and even though Walker would go on to delete this post,
here was his initial reaction,
and now I can't read it without my glasses.
Luke, I'm old. Can you read that?
Josh Hokit, I want you next.
I'm going to kick your head like a soccer ball
and force you to respect Brazil.
and our culture, U POS.
All right, there you go.
You down for that fight or not?
It's an interesting fight because Walter Walker is a little bit unknown as a kind of, like,
I mean, I realize that we've seen him a bunch, but he just keeps doing the same bit
that shouldn't work against an athlete like Hokit, and if it doesn't, what else is there?
So there's some intriguing, intriguing elements to that fight, sure.
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LT, we've got a loaded card,
at least for 2025 standards.
So from Islam Mahachev's pursuit of immortality
as a potential two division champion
and UFC co-record holder for consecutive wins,
to the biggest and most important women's bout,
at least one of them in MMA history,
Saturday's loaded card is filled with many things to talk about.
What is the one element of this card that either intrigues or excites you the most as we head into Saturday?
I think that it's both a showcase of this and depending on the results, it could make the argument ironclad,
which is that there's a great argument to be made, BC, that Welterweight is the best division in the sport right now.
And there were times in the past where that was the case, certainly, but there were times where it wasn't.
it kind of fluctuated and it was lost for a while,
particularly as bantam weight surged, as lightweight surged.
I think most people have been historically, at least in the last few years,
you know, kind of considering 135 or 155 the best,
at times some of the top stuff going on at 145 with Volk and Max
and Ilya Taboria maybe undid some of that.
But BC, just look at 170 right now.
You've got three fights just on the main card about 170,
the main event itself.
And then, of course, Sean Brady versus Michael Morales,
which could be a number one contender fight.
Then you've also got Leon Edwards,
former champ taken on Carlos Prochus.
Leon needs a win real badly.
We're moving maybe the most important division
and maybe the best division forward
in a huge way to get some answers.
But what it really shows you is all the names
that are not on this list that are still actually quite relevant as well.
Perhaps a chief among them, Ian Garrier,
who I know has a fight coming up against Bilal.
There's also Shafkat Rockmonov sitting out there.
you know what is it going to mean if Islam wins and now he add him as like a permanent fixture or at least a semi-permanent fixture in this division to me there's this big argument all the time what's the best division in the sport you can make it now already but i think after saturday it's going to be very very clear 170 is the division of kings and we're in for a great 2026 if these guys can stay healthy and stay active i'm glad you said that that was going to be my number one answer about the you know sorting out the the deepest
division top 1 through 15 with three fight cards with three fights we need to see here on the main
card obviously including that championship out in the main event where jack della madalina
will be a plus 220 underdog according to draft kings against the minus 270 islam mahachev
but just the fact that in this era where maybe cards aren't as strong historically they didn't
water down msg it still feels like a major and from the recent weeks i got to bring up this
this graphic that are friends at MMA on point put out there, Luke.
If you take RDR versus Allen, which was a replacement main event that had a kind of weird and lame
turnout, which was the ass of this horse, then we had UFC 321, which had some meat on it.
But then you had the ribs showing for the last two fight night cards.
How about that golden stallion that is 322 on Saturday?
So many fights worth talking about and fighters.
and Luke when we talk about that main event
we all want to see what Islam will look at
look like at 170 inside the cage
well here's what he will physically look like
yo this mother effort is Jack LT
yeah I mean he's not cutting a bunch of weight this time
huh you can see a more you know normal
so to speak looking Islam
telling you man
I can't I just can't wait for Saturday
I just can't wait it's such a good fight it's such a good fight
I love the storyline two division champion
be in. I mean, look, is it, I'll say, I'll save a lot of these, these talks for pregame.
I want to ask you also about the impact of JDM having Volk and Craig Jones in his corner.
I've got a little bit of sound here of JDM talking to the New York Post exactly about this.
Your opponent coming up in Islamahadha, he does his best when he's able to get the fight down.
You've worked with Craig Jones, of course, famously in terms of improving in that area and that kind
of thing. Where does, where does his impact kind of help you the most when you're preferring
for an opponent like both of these guys?
I mean, yeah, he just instills confidence.
He doesn't try and change too much.
He sort of looks at my style and then sees what will work
and then we sort of just, yeah,
he doesn't try to change too much.
Just sort of a little small changes,
small ideas that will work.
But we feel like we've got another good game plan.
I feel like I've got some good tricks.
Obviously, Islam's very good on the floor,
a good finisher.
Definitely probably a better finisher than below, no doubt.
So, but I feel like I can, again, shock the world in the grappling department, keep it on the feet and get the win.
Look, is it a bigger, is it a bigger unknown whether J.D.M can handle the grappling of Islam or whether Islam can get the better of him on the feet in this magic?
The first. Could Islam get the better of him on the feet? Of course. I mean, they're wearing small gloves. There's a lot of things moving.
moving different directions. It's MMA. It's wild. It's chaotic. Absolutely. But really,
really, it comes down to Islam being able to mix the game up. Can he or can't he? And if he can't
to what extent and where and what does it yield? That's where this fight is won and lost. That is
where everything happens. Because if it's, I mean, just straight up, if I told you Islam can't
get him down and can't hold him for any meaningful time against the fence, that would make the pick
relatively easy. You would just pick JDM. But we don't know if that's the case. And we don't know
to what extent it will be the case even if it's at least somewhat true that's the that that is
the main focus of this fight yeah i can't wait to see that uh let's go to some fun sound here
from craig jones talking about this relationship just on my trains with della would have been
doing some seminars in perth so we had a relationship for a bit of time but really i was just a fan
and i like i keep saying this like i've stolen a lot of moves from him but i think he
smoked so many bongs that he forgets that those are his moves and i get to reteach them back to him and
take full credit for it.
Hilarious.
Hilarious stuff right there.
I love that.
That was, by the way,
Craig Jones being interviewed by a friend of the program,
Al Wenling over there,
who's a part, of course,
the CGI broadcast does a lot of great work
in the BJJ world.
We can't forget about how great this
co-main event is that has been a pickum
for most of the week, a literal pickum.
Right now, the odds on this women's flyweight championship out,
Valentina of Shevchenko minus 125,
Zhang Wei Li plus.
plus 105 hey long island look play this picture speaking we're talking about islam getting jacked
in his new weight class how about way lee with this video she's ready for 125 not not having to
cut down to 115 uh l i l i look at this match up storyline wise i look mostly at the at the history
involved here the fact that it's two of the most accomplished fighters in in female you know
MMA history facing off against one another with so much at stake two division championship
opportunity for way lee and i go okay maybe it's not a fight that's as historically relevant
as cyborg versus newness and maybe it's not as you know pioneering as cyborg corano or as big
as some of the rousey matchups but it has so many other things going for and i wonder if you
agree with me on this i was talking to cbs as brent brookhouse as we were sort of framing this fight
And he came up with a great point, as great as Valentina and Wayley are, you could argue that both lack that one singular Hall of Fame win in their career.
Maybe you can say it's Wayley outbrawling, uh, uh, uh, Yawanna to defend the title there.
But Valentina for as great as she is, and by the way, if she wins on Saturday, she'll tie Amanda Nunes for the most title fight wins in women's UFC, uh, MMA history there.
I almost feel like this is sort of the defining fight in some ways of both of their careers.
Is that crazy or are you with me on that?
I never once thought of it like that,
but that is actually a great point because like,
what is Val's best win?
Like we're not talking performance.
You could say like Jessica I is her best performance,
but like it's obviously not her best win.
Is it also Yowana?
Is it, uh,
Holly home?
Juliana Pena?
I don't know.
No, it's a great point.
It's like she came into 125 Val when it was kind of empty.
It has reloaded.
I give her a lot of credit for the second and third.
third wins over Grasso. I said second because she got screwed on that draw. And then the
Faroe win, I thought was great. But where is that one definitive one? That would, this would
certainly be that in some ways for a Val, although Val did beat Yawanna as well as Waley, but I don't know.
It's, it's, it's, it's interesting. It's going to be a great fight. I'm fired up. Long Island,
do you have any storyline associated to Saturday that you're most juiced about? I'm looking at
this Leon Edwards Carlos Prattis fight, dude. I feel like Leon Edwards, the awesome.
are what's sticking out to me he's like plus 170 and i was on submission radio yesterday and i was
talking about how like even in carlos protest versus jeff neal i was big on jeff neil in that fight
and you already know i said ian gary was going to run through you know like i'm i'm not a
hater of carlos practice i actually really like the guy i just feel like i'm a doubter of his
skills and i feel like someone like leon edwards who's lost two in a row could probably use
a win here he's lost to the number one contender number two contender not bad losses at all uh this is
be a big fight for either guy whoever wins it's intriguing because it's like oh shit
protest is for real or it's like oh shit leon still in the top five still kind of has it so
agreed protest minus one 98 favorite over the one six plus 164 edwards and he can't sleep
on sean brady versus michael morales holy crap minus 142 brady the slight favorite over the plus
120 morales a lot more on ufc 32 coming to you from mk on thursday but this podcast right here right
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All right. Let's go back in here.
Topic number four.
It was in the box over the weekend.
We finally had a fight worth talking about.
It didn't last that long as unbeaten Virgil Ortiz Jr.
Ran through Erickson Lubin in route to a brutal second round TKO as the hype instantly turned
toward a fight against Duran Bootsanis, a fellow unbeaten junior middleweight that would, in some ways, be for the uncrown championship,
as neither are current title holders
but are sort of loosely considered
the best two in the division right there.
Luke Thomas, I know how pumped you would be
for Virgil Ortiz versus Boots Ennis.
I want to know how pumped.
When you look ahead to 2006 in boxing,
knowing we're going to get fights like
Taylor, People versus Chaucor,
where would a Virgil Ortiz Boots Ennis fight rank
among the most anticipated for you?
Can I ask one quick question of qualification?
is the fight for late January between Shakur and Teo signed and done?
The report is that it's like nine-tenths of the way there for January 31st at Madison Square Garden.
It has not been announced.
Just in fairness to that fight, that would be pretty big.
Now, I don't know how big it would be as a blockbuster event,
but in terms of a big fight taking place stateside for, what would that fight be at, 135, 140?
That fight would be at 140, yes, for Teo Femos belt.
Yeah, 140.
That would be tremendous.
That would be tremendous.
But BC, I just got to say, it feels to me, like reading the tea leaves, that this potential
fight between Geron, Boots, Ennis, and Virgil Ortiz, it's arguably the best fight you can make
in boxing within a single division.
It's arguably that.
And I would say that the buzz that I read on Saturday night and just seeing what people
were saying, it might also be.
the most anticipated now again there could be bigger fights you could cook up i suspect for example
that if we get tyson fury versus anthony joshua in twenty 26 at i'll make something up wembley in the
uk that would be a pretty significant boxing event you get me benavitas better be i might
i might turn down all other fights but this one's fair enough but this one yeah dude or t i'll just wrap it up
or t's versus boots is if not the most anticipated fight in twenty 26 on the very short list and for
great reasons. We want to see a breakout star in BC. I really, really hope. Can I just say as a small
note? I really hope they put this fight state side. I'll take it no matter what, like any other
boxing fan would. But I feel like the American market really needs something like this.
And I honestly feel like it could be a big spark if it's handled the right way and promoted the
right way. I fully agree with you here. Both promoters of the two fighters, Golden Boy
representing Virgil Ortiz, matchroom, representing Boots Ennis, are on the zone.
It seems like an easy one to make,
although there's some hurdles that have come out since Saturday.
We'll talk about that in a second.
First, I do want to talk about the finish.
Luke, I expected a lot more of Erickson Lubin in this fight,
even though his kryptonite could be his chin.
Here's a ringside view of the finish.
Lubin had been hurt by a left hand.
He was lingering far too long on the ropes.
There's a slupor, slow-mo version of this replay
where you could see he just brutally finishes Lubin with a left hook.
All in all, I kind of wanted to see more resistance.
in this one, but I can't take away with what Virgil Ortiz did.
I mean, I wrote this B.C., and I, I, maybe you might disagree with the characterization.
To me, Lubin was a flaw, we said this on Friday, I believe, a flawed opponent, but a quality
one. And the issue was, you know, he'd been obviously stopped by Charlo, right? That was one issue.
The other issue was, for example, in the Fondora fight, he just kind of swole up, like he got
stung by a B. I'm not so sure that he has chin issues, B.C.
as much as an A, I mean, he, I feel like there's a distinction between having chin issues
and then general durability problems. I actually feel like they're slightly, they're, they're,
they're very aligned, but somewhat different. And I thought to me,
Dustin Porier is a little chinny, but insanely durable. Yes, something like that. Or you can be,
you know, not really chinny at all, but have, you know, bad durability to the body, right?
That can be a thing too. So I feel like Lubin was a little bit more.
more of the latter. But the point I'm trying to make is
Ortiz, you know,
Lubin is not a joke. Whatever else
you want to say about him, he's not a joke. I didn't really like
that Moro was like, oh, he's a shot fighter, like
right after he gets beat. I thought that was
a little bit much. But I thought he was a quality
opponent, and he got mowed through.
It indicates both the potential
of Ortiz, who by the way,
you know, he didn't finish Israel Madramov, B.C.,
but he beat up Madramov real good. He had
him very disciplined
in that long fight card that they were on. And I thought
that was one of his better performances, even if it didn't
yield a stoppage. And clearly what it also indicates B.C. is if you don't put a good
top class opponent in front of him, in front of Ortiz, dude, he's just going to mow right
through him on just a basic level of getting the most out of him. He needs an opponent like
bud, to say nothing else of that it has to be next or that the sport wants it or any of the
other other considerations. So I really thought, did you learn a lot about Ortiz? Only in the sense
that it's time for the bullshit to stop. We got to put this guy in front of a real killer and see what
happens. Yeah, right after the fight, they brought in Eddie Hearn and Geron Boots on us for a face
off and it got my blood boil in there. The quote there from Virgil Ortiz is, we're ready for the
best. We want to fight the best. Boots come over here. He did. They took this pick. You want to hear
what Boots thought about it. Fight Hub TV caught up with him ringside.
I think I think Louva was kind of like out. I mean, it was a good stop it. It was a good
Did you expect that type of performance from what he's not going to dovin that early?
A lot of people are saying it's going to finish.
It was not to go past 10.
You think he was going to go by the second?
I got to say before, Louerick can't be a fighter.
You know, I thought it was going to go a little longer, but you know, he got the job done.
But I got something for it.
I'm a shirt.
This fight is going to be so awesome.
But here's the problem, Luke.
They're already doing a lot of business posturing after this fight.
You got Rick Marigi and the manager of Boutz, I'm sorry, of Virgil Ortiz, and Oscar De La Jolla, both sort of saying like, we need big time money to take this fight.
We need $10 million to take this fight.
I don't know if that's just posturing for the point of trying to get Turkey to come in and pay them stupid money for it, or if this really means we're going to have to build to this when the fight is right in front of us right now.
And why I say that is because you're starting to hear both camps saying,
we want to fight the other person, but we're willing to fight other people.
Here's a Jake Donovan tweet criticizing what Oscar said after the fight.
He says, Oscar de La Jolla has now twice claimed Golden Boy holds the upper hand and talks for
Ortiz, Ennis, first during the in-ring post-fight interview and now during a post-fight press
conference, not the nonsense we need, just make the fight, especially after tonight's buzz.
Hassan had a similar tweet after that in which he,
said, Oscar de La Jolla says that
Virgil Ortiz is not the A side
with boots, it will not happen.
And they will look at Errol Spence and Sebastian
Fondora. Now, the Errol Spence fight has long been
the dream fight for Virgil Ortiz.
They're both from Dallas. They wanted to do this
at Jerry World. They always talked about it.
Virgil even said after the fight,
I actually want the Spence fight more than
boots to be fair and honest with you, because it's his
dream fight. Then you hear reports on
Twitter that Golden Boys already talking to
PBC about that fight.
Luke, do you feel like if it doesn't happen next,
they're going to miss this?
Yeah.
Yeah, leave it to boxing in the middle of a takeover
from a monopoly in a sister sport
that they're out here just fucking, you know,
flicking their own nut sacks around
and imagining that this is some kind of enjoyable game
that we all like to watch.
Dude, I mean, listen,
I'll be honest, BC, I'll be honest.
Virgil Ortiz versus Errol Spence,
I'm not going to sit here and pretend I hate that fight
because I don't.
Spence was in attendance.
on Saturday watching it.
I don't hate that fight at all.
I absolutely don't hate that fight.
And you know, you have really, I mean, he sold himself to the public,
but you have also sold me on the fact that, you know, Fondora,
there's something special about him.
I don't hate a fight between Virgil Ortiz and Sebastian Fondora either.
I don't hate it.
I think if you got either of those, I wouldn't look at that and go,
oh, these fights suck.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
But it just seems to me that if you're a mover and a shaker in boxing
and you're looking around at the state of the sport
and you're thinking to yourself,
we can just play the same old fuck-fuck game.
of not delivering on what the fans actually want.
I mean, I'm not saying that you deserve to have a monopoly come take your business.
That's really not what I'm saying.
But it's not like you're doing a lot to actively resist it on the parts that you can control.
This is within your grasp to really reward the fans, to give them something,
especially BC after kind of a shit year in the sport of boxing,
to really give them something a lot to hope for and look forward to.
As I mentioned, of all the permutations you can make within a single division,
the best one is boots versus Ortiz.
I'll take Fondora versus Ortiz.
I'll take Spence versus Ortiz,
but it's just not the same
as what you're going to get with boots.
And so to that end, B.C.,
like they might just whiff on this,
but if they do, man,
like what can you say?
Y'all just deserve to lose your business.
You just didn't care to keep it.
Who cares?
Exactly. Both of these promoters are under Turkey.
Both of them are on the zone.
Make the damn fight.
I hear Oscar saying we have to be the A side and we need 10 million or, you know, also Ortiz's manager saying something similar, then that leads me to believe maybe they don't think they can beat boots and they want to sort of cash it out.
But I would hope that Turkey would step in.
I really hope like you, this would not be in Saudi.
I would love for this fight.
Heck, I love that they grabbed Teofimo and Shakur and they're like, let's put it in MSG.
Hell yeah, let's make it huge.
Let's take this fight, put it in a big city, in a big arena.
You don't have to put it in Philly or Dallas to favor either guy.
Put it in L.A. at the Staples Center.
I don't care.
But get Turkey involved.
Make it the main event of a Ring Magazine card.
And by the way, the Ring Magazine cards have been great.
You got to give Turkey that credit for what he's done recently.
This seems like a perfect fight for that, Luke.
I really hope it's not like the Co-Main and Saudi, but yet everybody gets paid more than they deserve.
I don't know.
Just make the damn fight.
This is great.
We got Buzz.
We got legitimate buzz right now.
Let's go to topic number five.
A great fight, which they did make.
Thank you very much.
It's Saturday.
It's a rematch of that April dramatic insane slugfest.
That is my current frontrunner for fight of the year in 2025.
And frankly, one of the most dramatic fights of this entire decade.
It's Chris Eubank Jr. versus Connor Ben, part two as the second generation British stars continue this legendary rivalry between families in which their fathers fought multiple times.
This one's going to be back at Tottenham Hotspur's Stadium like it was the first one.
And the storylines are getting even juicier with ambulance gate and all the things established with their dad-As and all that.
LT, there's, it's just remarkable how insane that April fight was when it could have been nothing, no title at stake,
two guys that never truly lived up to their potential or, you know, came close to exceeding what their dads did.
And Eubank, father and senior at that point, we're not talking, although it was a big pro wrestling ruse.
and then they deliver drama, action.
They're not even in the same weight class.
It was just the perfect matchup
in which the smaller Connor Ben acted like the bigger puncher,
yet ultimately got slightly outboxed in a war.
Is there any chance that Saturday's fight can live up to or exceed
what we saw just what, seven months ago?
There's always a room whenever you.
you get a fun fight, there's always room for reality that you might be in the first stage of
a Vasquez, Marquez, you know, you're the first, first chapter of a Gotti ward or something like that.
So essentially, what you're having to ask is, are we at one of those? Because BC, if you get another one,
I mean, let's think realistically, if you get a second fight that's like the first, particularly
if Connor Ben wins, you're going to get a third. You know, that's just what,
it's going to be. And you might get a third one anyway, even if Ben doesn't win. I guess I would
say this. I was, I've been reading what Beaumack has been saying in preparation for the show and for
the fight itself. And Beaumack has been of the belief. He's like, yeah, there were some things we just
didn't know what we were going to get with Connor Ben the first time. You'll recall BC. This was
when, uh, Bo Mac had to go to jail in England because he brought a revolver to the place, which is,
that's always fun. In any event, I, Beaumack is like, yeah, there were some things we
definitely didn't know what we're going to get with Ben, given a few factors the first time,
but now we got it, and I think he's going to make it look worse.
Craig me, if my memory is wrong, BFC, didn't, didn't, uh, um, Ben lose eight to four
on all three judges scorecards? Isn't that right? I don't have that in front of me, but that
sounds about right? I believe that's correct. Now, that doesn't mean that it wasn't close at times,
and there weren't these wild momentum swings that made it for a dramatic affair. But in the end,
it was kind of two to one in one direction.
Is that right?
Yeah, you're correct.
116, 112 across the board, yep.
Yep.
So this is what I'm saying.
I am hopeful that the rematch will be good,
and I'm pretty confident the rematch will be good,
no matter what.
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The thing
that I think is what is intention is
how much is it true
that Ben has been figured out
by UBank
versus you notice BC
that first cut to get
down there was brutal
and then there was the whole thing about his ambulance being
blocked to leave the event to go get medical care.
What's the rehydration clause?
The rehydration clause, the whole bit.
If he is really doing damage to himself to make the weight,
Ubank, in order to stay in these kind of this, this, this, this, this, um,
orbit of a big fight for himself, then I think you really have to upgrade Ben's
chances, but I just think boxer to boxer and especially like natural size to natural
size, Ubank is just better.
So I only have a question about.
about what the weight cut and the weight management does to his durability for a second time,
what is a very, very brutal affair to get down there.
Yeah, this fight will be contested at 160 pounds.
Eubank Jr. made that weight despite having, you know, fought at 168 for a stretch of his career.
But with that rehydration clause, it's a tough-ass weight cut.
And of course, Connor Ben, who was probably at his best on the rise up at 147, but had PED issues,
moved up to 154, didn't look like a killer anymore.
But in this first fight at middleweight, like I said, came out with insane heart,
acted like the bigger puncher, was walking Eubank down, forced Eubank to be the boxer.
As we look at the odds right now, Chris Eubank Jr., a minus 175 betting favorite plus 135
has been.
But if you're wondering about this hullaboo surrounding ambulance gate, basically Chris
Eubank Jr. is accusing Eddie Hearn, the promoter of Connor Ben,
of blocking the ambulance on the way out of the arena
to keep him there longer to make him.
I mean, and, you know, going to the level of showing videos
and behind the scenes footage of it.
You have Chris Eubank Sr. accusing Eddie Hearn of not putting
Eubank Jr.'s health first.
Here's the talk sport team coming after Chris Eubank Jr.
for playing up the sympathy card with the storyline.
We've got to stop allowing Eubank to milk the sympathy vote
because he's the one.
that is allowing a million pound clause to be in his contract that doesn't allow him to
rehydrate. So you can't have it both ways. You can't say you're dehydrated and then say
that I'm in jeopardy when you are the one of putting yourself a back decision.
What he's saying Spencer is in his second statement, your bank junior is saying,
I'm shining a light in the situation to make sure that if I end up looking like this again
on November the 15, that I'm simply taking to hospital as quickly as possible and that's all.
We've turned it into an argument about whether Chris Eubank could get an ambulance out of a stadium.
Where the question is, is did he have a delay and why did he have a delay?
Where Chris Eubank has gone with it is, I have a delay because of you, Eddie Hearn.
Where he'll get himself smacked is by accusing somebody of something that he cannot accuse them of.
The argument that is Eddie Hearn's fault, well, he's the promoter of notes,
so he has to take some responsibility for it.
The real issue, the real reason, let's get it right.
This is a story and it sells a fight.
It's a narrative.
It creates an outcome.
It's a fact.
It's also a fact, Simon.
I don't dispute it.
But what's the motivation behind it?
My belief, the motivation behind it with due respect to Chris Eubank is not to make a point about how near to death he was
because he chose to go down that pathway with respect by not taking the rehydration clause that penalized him by a million quid.
But the fact is, it's about selling a fight.
Look, do you feel like Chris Eubank, Jr. just needs, like, an emotional battle to fight to be at his best coming in?
He seems to love, I don't know, B.C., like when he was taking shots of Frank Warren, you know, at that press conference.
He just seems to revel in it a little bit.
it to be honest with you yeah i mean i don't think i don't know why these commentators are kind of
dismissing some of his concerns they're pretty valid he's taking yeah i mean yes ultimately he's
agreeing to these conditions and so therefore he's responsible for meeting them but at the same time
they're very very tough and you know honestly who is doing more physical deterioration to make
these two fights possible it's you bank like i don't know you know what you know why is that
unfair to say now whether hern was involved in letting the ambulance leave on time you know i don't know
what the evidence for that would be necessarily but to answer your question bc i mean this is
part of what the ubank ben magic is both the clash of their personalities and then the weirdness
or the the differences that they each bring and you bank just seems to love narrative and
rhetoric and circumstance around his his his orbit it works for him to be honest like i sort of get
it here's eddie herne's reaction talking to marcos vegas but what you can't do is accuse
me a matron of deliberately stopping or delay in an ambulance it's a dangerous
to say. He said, Eddie Hearn stopped and blocked my ambulance from leaving. In the meantime,
I'm with Connor Ben doing a press conference, didn't even know this is all going on. But unfortunately,
he's got it so wrong, but still refuses to just say, you know, I don't mind, you know, I don't
mind this. I don't like Eddie Hearn. I think he's a prick. And, you know, I want to be able to
leave as quickly as possible in an ambulance, which he absolutely should. But I shouldn't have said
that because that's not you know whatever you think of me you can't expect to say things like
that and for me just to go yeah all right because what you're saying is is i put your life at risk
now he walked to the ambulance he was actually asked that they'd take him to the ambulance he chose
to walk and all this kind of stuff and it was precautions but that doesn't matter you should always
you know we want the best route possible and that's a british boxing border control
obligation and responsibility and an emergency service responsibility but of course that's
what we want but what you can't do is accuse me a matron of deliberately stopping or delay in an
ambulance it's a dangerous thing to say unfortunately he's not sensible enough or he's too
stubborn he has a big chip on his shoulder to say I don't like you and yes the control
centre did have to open the gates but I shouldn't have said that
And I know you didn't block the ambulance, but I still think you're a prick.
There you go.
Luke, just to correct, and I wasn't really up on this either.
Beaumack was not with Eubank for the first fight,
although he had worked with Eubank Jr. in the past.
They reunited this fight.
Here's video.
Well, let me just say, I definitely did see Bomack saying that he learned something from the first fight
that Eubank was going to encounter the day that would have ironed out.
So at least was kind of plugged in on what was happening there.
We do have video of Bomack.
firing up Eubank in the gym.
And the reason Beaumack said he came back with Eubank
was because Eubank talking about
needing more of that, like, killer instinct
spirit inside of them.
So now you got to go in for a kill.
This is the way to kill his name.
This is the way to kill his name.
Pick it out, man.
Pick it up, pick it up.
Pick it up.
Pick it up.
Hey.
Lewer, do it.
You got a dig in his ass, man.
You're the fucking bull.
Look, I don't know what you're going to see me.
Look, I just love the image of a large man with a bag of family-sized Cheetos
screaming at a dude with jackdabs going, you got to get in his ass.
You got to dig in the ass.
You got a dig in his ass.
Good Lord.
All right.
To close, here's Connor Ben on what he underestimated about Eubank in the first fight that he hopes to fix in this rematch on Saturday.
When you got in there, did you know immediately that this fight was going to go the way it was going to go?
No.
I thought, I thought I would, I thought after the third round that it was, it was curtains.
I thought it was curtains.
There was a moment in that fight in that third round where your prediction nearly came true.
I thought he couldn't live with my ferocity, my spite, my tenacity, my aggression.
I thought he couldn't live with any of that.
Hunger, sharpness, but, you know, I underestimated the man.
I feel like Ben is going to come out guns blazing again, Luke,
and maybe even try a quicker pace to try to put Eubank in a spot where he has no gas.
How do you see this rematch going?
I got Ben by decision.
wow really no i'll take you bank i'll take you bank by decision yeah i won't say stoppage because
i think he's going to be too diminished but i think he'll get the job done for sure all right
can't wait that is this saturday uh check it out there from tottenham hot spurs stadium
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you want. This one's DMs from Dawks.
wrote me about your pronunciation there's my right or wrong halfway right she it's the it's not
pin toe it's definitely not that it's a little bit of a you but she said you exaggerate the degree
to which it's a ooh sound i had some vibes to it's a little light it's a got a light ooh to it all right all right
all right well thank you christina for reaching out might i say rickie simone versus hyoni barcellus
was a technical thriller i mean
There was some technical elements that made it super fun,
but this was also just straight up a Bannam White Banger, was it not?
Yeah, I don't know if technical thriller is the right answer to that,
but that old goat, I'm telling you, man,
that old goat is out there just doing something special.
But technical thriller, no, I think it actually,
the actual one would have to be a little slower than it was for that.
No, no, all right, here's a technical thriller.
Okay.
Dominic Cruz's split decision over T.J. Dillishaw.
That's a
Yeah, kind of edgy your seat
Never crazy
But edge of your seat the whole time, yes
At high speed, a lot of skills
But yeah, I did enjoy that on Saturday
I just love that people are finally getting up
On these TTs, Luke, you know what I'm saying?
These technical thrillers
I love TTs
All right, let's hear from
At Moishe Eisenman
Thank you, Moishe. Moishe. Moishe. Moisha?
Moisha.
Moisha.
I'm not sure.
If you could decide what the headliner will be for the first Paramount card,
which fight would you make, Elty?
Say it again, we'll put it up one more time.
If you could decide what the headliner.
And by the way, the latest report seemed to be the end of January.
I had heard L.A., now I'm here in Vegas.
I don't have an official announcement yet.
We'll see what happens with this.
I'm going to go to Poria.
I mean, just me personally, to pouria batty.
Yeah, yeah.
I wish Gaci was, well, no, I don't know if I wish Gaci was healthy,
because that's not the fight I want.
You know what?
I'll say it.
Toporius Sarukian.
I wish they just did that right now.
That's a banger.
I take that one too.
Yeah.
I'll take that.
That's my choice for this.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Let's hear from David underscore Kirsch 55.
The over under is two and a half of the Welter weights competing in the MSG
and cutter cards becoming future champions.
Let me see.
So you got Ian, Gary, Bilal Muhammad, Sean Brady, Michael Morales,
Leon Edwards, Carlos Pratis,
and then I guess Islam J.D.M.
I'll take the over.
So you think this belt's going to bounce around at 170?
That's really what you're saying.
I don't think Islam's going to be there that long.
That's what I think.
Well, where's he going?
I think he'll be here.
And then, okay, so let's say he wins Saturday.
I think he'll defend the title one, maybe two times.
And then I think he'll call it a day.
And then retire,
Before he fights Toporia, or including?
I think if he wins at 70, I don't know if we're ever going to get it.
Wow.
Okay.
Okay.
That's interesting.
That's very interesting.
How long do you think he's going to be around four?
Four fights at Welter, including Toporia.
Oh, I'd be surprised.
All right.
You think Ian Gary will ever hold it?
Yeah.
I think he could.
I think he could.
I think he could.
I do too.
I don't wonder if Schofcott's ever going to get back in the game.
Fucking hell, man.
I mean, dude, 2024, excuse me, 2025 was just a dead year for him.
Yeah, crazy.
Indeed.
Let's hear from M.T.
Bubel.
We like this guy.
City, you want to visit in the U.S.
that you have never been to.
That's an easy one for me.
I am so ashamed.
I've been all over the world.
I am so ashamed to say I've never been to Seattle.
I've never been to Seattle.
I want to go to Seattle.
I never have, and I want to very badly.
I would say Nashville's up there
for me you never been to nashville no i've been around it i've been to lebanon tennessee for a wedding i've
done some drinking in nashville but i but then again if you're like yo bc you want to go to seattle or
nashville i'm taking seattle but the part of that is like proximity to national park
dude a flight to nashville from like vw i or whatever is like it's like an hour 45 it's like
45 minutes and uh Nashville's changed a lot it's become a lot more corporate than it once was
but one thing i really like about nashville is if you're into live
music and I don't love country music by instruits imagination but if you're into just live performers
sure Nashville's got a lot of really good live performers it's actually kind of yeah we used to say
that about Austin until all those comedians invaded it look you know what I mean but uh I've never
been to San Fran that's still up there oh my god dude dude dude dude you've never seen like the
old redwood trees and stuff like that I've no no northern California is a high on my list very
dude you're missing out those things are crazy to see it's fun at all okay thank you very much
uh let's keep it going here this our final one is from john winkle fred rank your top three holidays in
okay um first i'd go christmas christmas is the king of holidays for sure yeah don't don't stop
putting that christ in christmas look please don't stop right well i mean you know my family won't
let me i'll put it that way i mean there's a reason for the season luke okay how many nativity
sets do you have in your house just one and i have to fight my family to bring it back
out, they want to retire it, and I keep bringing it back.
Well, I've got like three or four up in this piece.
Yes. Yeah, I got a bunch. So, um, Christmas is number one, I feel like. Got to go Christmas
number one. I'm going to say number two. You know, the temptation is to say Thanksgiving B.C., especially
because you do get two days off, areas you're supposed to anyway. If you disparage the best holiday in
the world, I'm not going to be happy. I think, I think Thanksgiving is a three for me, to be
honest with you. I'm going to put, it's not even really a holiday. I'm going to put Halloween as
number two. And I want to tell you why. I'll tell you why. Not only is it just a wonderful time
of the year, October, King of the Months, but it's really now turned into a whole month long kind
of dutiful celebration where you're watching scary movies all week. Now we put decorations all over
the house. It has this big crescendo moment with a bunch of happy children. Dude, I fucking
love Halloween, especially now that I'm a dad. Like, it's just the best. So I'm going to go Christmas
Halloween, Thanksgiving.
I'm going to go Thanksgiving,
and we already know it's the best holiday.
You're out of your mind.
Everyone comes home.
It's football, family, food.
I mean, it's everything you'd want, right?
Number two is Christmas.
There ain't nothing like it except for Turkey Day.
And the third I'll go is Father's Day.
Luke, I love Father's Day.
Okay.
Have you had a particularly good one recently?
I don't need anything crazy for Father's Day to be great.
I just need my wife,
my two kids and I to spend the whole day together,
go for walks, get ice cream,
you know, do basic stuff that's awesome
and just celebrate that.
I'm tempted also to put Fourth of July on there,
not, you know, I don't have a dislike
for our country, but it's not necessarily like,
yeah, USA, it's just great weather.
You typically go somewhere fun,
buy the water, fireworks, cook out.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's a nice, it's a nice break in the eye.
It kicks off summer in some ways.
Yeah, all right.
That's all I got here.
Luke says New Year's Eve is the number one.
And I'm like, that's only true if you don't have kids and you're not that old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not always true every year.
But like if you have a good New Year's Eve party and everyone's like going to stay up and all that, that there's nothing that beats that.
I'd say between the ages of 19 and 26, my real favorite holiday was Thanksgiving Eve, aka Valley New Year.
I mean, that's, you know, going back to the local bar and like everyone's back.
And you're, you know, and yeah.
So it was it, it was the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving?
Yes, yes.
We would come back home and we would all see each other.
Like everyone who was in high school together went to their colleges,
would come back home and you would see each other for the first time and see who had the
freshman 15, you know what I'm saying?
And then like the younger, the younger classes below you would become of age and come
into the par scene and, you know, you'd be a dirt hole and yeah, there you go.
All right, that's it for that.
You can reach our program at morning combat at gmail.com for your Friday dead
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was very solid super solid all right this one's called have you seen this year thank you
Whoah, indeed, that somebody's drinking right now.
Yeah, all right.
Hey, Luke, you didn't have to go to the New York City subway today.
So I thought I'd bring the New York City subway to you.
You ever hear of snakes on a plane?
How about snakes on a train, LT?
Yeah, brother.
This is New York.
I mean, remember when you and I got on that subway car and that dude had an open flesh wound on his head
and he was screaming satanic stuff at us and we didn't get off we probably should have
would that snake guy force you to get off i might stick around if i'm on the local i might
stick around for one more stop if i was on the express i'm getting off after the next one you
know what i'm saying i'm not going to ride 30 more blocks with him but i write that right
i'd ride 10 with him with the next subway creature force you to get on or off or get off in a
different way luke let's watch this gentleman this is why god you got to know how to ride the new
New York City Subway Boys and
Oh, he's riding it, Luke.
He's riding.
Believe me.
Let me explain some to you.
How do you hold on to things on the New York City subway?
I'm going to show you how to do it.
Number one, you press against the lower part of your palm.
Yeah.
Or, B.C., this is what you got to do.
You got to go elbow deep and use your clothes to hold it.
The carbonic acid and just pour it over your hand.
If you don't have hand sanitizer ready, it's the elbow.
Or it's the palm.
It's never this.
That is a disaster.
Don't ever do that.
And finally,
would you get on or off the train
if you saw this in the subway,
Luke?
This kind of performance are...
Are you not entertained?
This is the most normal thing
that happens on the end train.
So true.
So true.
This is the most normal thing.
I've ever seen happen on the New York City subway.
All right, well done there.
Check out their Broadway show later this week.
All right, Luke, let's go to your K.O. of the week.
It's a sidewalk fatality that you need to see, all right?
What?
Wow.
Did he turn into AI?
No.
Did he turn into Jello?
Dude, he got cranked by that right here.
Oh, he's just swinging hard.
A guy gets under it.
Oh, gets his head off the center line.
Golly.
Wow, dude, that is brutal.
That's going to hurt.
Don't get in street fights on concrete, you idiots.
I'm telling you.
Look, you ever playing the corporate softball game and someone took it too seriously?
That's usually me.
You think I had that kind of corporate camaraderie?
Let's check it on this company.
yo dude i actually support that i'm that guy at the esp and rec league and basketball who's
almost getting to a fist fight with the referee or score you're gonna tear both of janet's
acels from hr just for a point on this day she's out at home look that was a that was that was
that's fair play where i come by the way there was a four charity dodgeball tournament at my kids
high school a couple years ago and i came out like game seven style and turned off a lot of people
with a lot of people
a lot
I believe you
yeah I believe
it wasn't good
all right let's head on over
to the grid iron
forget pick six Luke
they're calling this thick six
did you see this guy
watch this interception here
oh it's like jumbo Elliott
yeah look at this guy
big country just go
dude what is this high school
yeah I think so
but rumbling bumble and stumbling
someone just make him trip
you idiots
look he could go all my god jumbo elliott that's amazing he did die of a lack of oxygen after that but what a return
he had a coronary after this and sadly he's no longer with us but great play let's go to the bethune cookman
grambling state game went to a football game luke and a brawl broke out between the two sides look at
this oh oh he's got no helmet on i feel like fighting with no helmet on or fighting with a helmet on
is either is both ways oh yeah they're
throwing they're throwing luke oh that was a pretty good punch that was a pretty good punch
not bad not bad uh let's go to youth football look you ever had to be the chain game at your
chain gang member at your daughter's football game no not yet right no look at the t-shirt that
this dad wore what does it say i guess you'll have to see it again
lift heavy eat ass that was my mom
over my 20s. Let me just say it. Indeed.
Luke, normally we don't praise the
Bills Mafia, but they
took it out on Patrick Mahomes this week. Look at
this, Luke. You know, Bill's Mafia
sucks, but I'm not going to lie, this is real funny.
Yeah.
And finally, check out this youth
football player whose dad just taught him the
stiff arm before the game. Watch this.
Dude. Look, were you one of
those like 12 year olds that was six feet tall?
Yeah, yeah. You could
have been doing this, okay? Fifth grade,
grew i think i grew nine inches in a year wow wow fifth grade dude yeah i didn't get tall till
summer before ninth grade wow but i've been this tall since i was 16 geez okay
christ dude who's he playing i don't know they are now uh luke i call this kid a young machine gun
Kelly.
Bro, it sounded like Optimus Prime
turning back into a truck.
I hope he made it in time.
Yeah, yeah.
I hope he made it in time.
All right.
Let's go to the New York City streets.
Anything can happen.
Dude, that's a perfect.
toss right there this is new york god i love new york
it's time for your tan line of the week
check out this racing fan here
coming up coming up
let's stand for the national anthem oh my god
bro can i tell you speaking of the marine corps
so this is how we would all look
like eight weeks so i went i went i went to paris island in june of
1998 and they would give us the don't call them hats they call them covers they give you a cover
to wear and of course you're outside all the time so then eight weeks i mean there was the
marine cover weekend was 13 weeks but by eight weeks in you take your hat off and they all
have that tan line where they've gotten it's just completely white here or whatever and then
dark as shit from the way way down and they all look that way it looked that way it looked
real stupid but i've definitely seen it before uh look it's time for mima fighters in the wild
and I popped for this real recognizing real
when Dimitri Bevall and Fador got together, yo.
Understand that the man on the left
competed with guys
well in excess of 250
even sometimes 300 pounds.
And the other guy fights at 175 pounds.
Yes.
It's in, dude,
Fador is so criminally underrated.
It's insane to me.
I love him.
We won't play the sound for copyright purposes,
but here's Alexander Volcanowski.
joining Jelly Roll on stage singing to his tunes while Jelly Roll holds the belt, Luke.
Your thoughts?
I found out randomly that Jelly Roll follows me on Twitter.
I don't know why.
Dude, that's not bad, right?
I guess he's an M.M.A. fan.
Volk's got the tightest jeans on Earth, but otherwise, this looks fun.
Yeah, yeah.
Shout out to Volk for this.
Also, footage has emerged from a 2008 Sambao match in which Habib defeated Alexander Volk.
off, Luke. Did you know about this?
No.
That's not real, is it?
It is. A.I. can't produce
this. I mean, it could.
Fires to the underhook,
inside trip, and then outside trip.
That's nice. Yeah, dude,
Habib's a beast, man.
Someone was asking me, like, oh, could he
beat, you know, middleweights in the UFC?
Because I guess Henry Suhudo and
Camaro Oussman were like, oh, he could.
And, you know, I'm not saying, I mean, I don't know what he is at this point,
But, like, I've definitely heard stories of Habib in the gym giving welterweights and middleweights to fight of their lives.
Luke Rocco was on that jackson pod.
And he was talking about Islam.
And he said Islam was throwing him around.
And he's like, I've never seen strength like that.
It's just ridiculous.
Yeah.
Those guys are different.
Luke, they sacrificed all to be that different.
You know what I'm saying?
It worked out.
They're fucking good.
Yeah, they were.
Luke, the UFC did a bit where they interviewed their fighters and asked them to look at pictures of Brock Lesner.
What do you think they said about him?
Brock Lesnar. He recently came back at 48 years old and he's absolutely jacked. He's in the best shape of his life.
That's him now. That's him right now. What? Is he just a genetic specimen?
I mean he might be a bit of a genetic specimen but there's some other stuff going on there.
I think he's not natural, it's anabolic. His age looks like this, he for sure used something.
Well that's when he won the title at 32 years old and now he's 48 years old.
I want to ask you what he eat, you know, what he do, but I'm not sure about his overall health.
Do you think we could ever see Brock Lesnar come back to the UFC?
pass a drug test. I don't think so. He will never
pass the doping test. He can, he can.
Look at this, yeah. Now, you didn't have a lot of contenders in the
heavyweight division. Would you like to say Brock Lesnar and return
to the UFC? If you can pass a drug test, I'll do it.
I don't think that's happening any time soon.
Yeah, I mean, you know,
yeah. He's on that ovarine.
Yeah, the Dodgers
made it two straight championships,
including one of their players is all over
Ariel. You see that? Look, just
dunk it all over him. Oh, Kike-Hernan.
I did see that, yeah.
Here's the best post-celebration interview that I found.
Obviously, when you got a guy like yours, you know,
but we have a model on your team.
It makes things a little easier, you know?
Especially for a guy like me that, you know,
all I did it was bring in, you know,
a piece of fucking pencil to the project to get an A,
but I got a name, and here we are.
That's about champ, Davi.
That's right, every day.
Three-time World Series champion, back-to-back.
You can have this.
that's awesome
oh look you know that bit
where they like kick a ball and the gender reveal happens
apparently they're doing that at weddings now watch the
i don't know if this was a shotgun marriage watch the
the flight of this ball oh okay
she ain't hooking up at the reception now look i'll tell you that much
these blue-haired libs are out of control that's what i know
Look, this gives new meaning
to the term elder abuse. Let's get some
life advice here. What is the secret
to living a long life?
First off, how old are you?
I'm 99.
Okay.
And how I
made it to 99, I smoked
a lot, I drank a lot, and I
had a lot of sex.
Hell yeah, brother.
Yeah, that's how you get to be...
Hell yeah. Yeah, that guy...
It's really not complicated, B.C.
It's not a complicated formula, you know?
Just be happy and live.
your life. Yeah, that's great. Uh, pickle ball is becoming a violent game. Watch this.
Oh, wow. Crowned them. Yeah. That's, uh, wow. That's, someone's got to call that ball there.
You know what I mean? Look, with the outfielders, you got to, you got to call the, you got to call the
flat ball. Indeed. Luke, do you play a lot of hacky sack at high school during like, uh,
I wouldn't say I played a lot. I mean, I've played it a couple times. All right. That was,
that was huge in my, in my community in the mid 90s, look huge. We didn't really play like soccer
hacky sack but watch this video anyway
could you could you volley here
could you keep this alive look but that's
a full soccer ball isn't it yeah yeah
they're just kind of booting it back and forth here
but could you play I could do a little
bit but not really I'm not like I'm good
at this all right watch this
watch the flight of this ball
this chick's keeping it going nice
work all right all right all right
hell
hell yeah
dude
and that was
Wow
Yeah
Yeah
Oh look
This next message
brings new meaning
To the term
No Shave November
Hairy pussy season
Throwing it back to the 80s
Luke
Yeah there we go
Okay
That's a thing
That's a thing, sure
That is a thing apparently
Luke how do you eat your ramen
Do you have you learned
The new way to do it
To eat it hard
The hardest way
I eat my ramen
I boil my water and then I eat the ramen raw.
I snort the seasoning packet.
Drink the boiling water and fuck bitches.
I've not tried that method, but that seems like a little laborious.
I gotta tell you.
Honey, I'm making dinner tonight.
Don't worry about it.
All right.
Yeah.
And finally, Luke, you know, six seven's taken over.
It's out of control.
Watch this.
Kind of on behind Mommy on this side until you can see all the sunflies on it.
Six seven.
9-11 no my daughter does this what the 9-11 part at the end look yeah she does 811 but i can't
tell if she's just messing it up because she's six you know yeah uh hopefully all our 9-11 fans
got their fix this week that's all the shit that i can handle uh you know what it was a sea
but it was a solid sea given the given the state of things you know it was an enjoyable ride
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I got to get ready for CBS Sports HQ,
but it was great doing the show today, okay?
Thank you for doing it with me, BC.
I enjoy it.
What are you going to talk about in HQ?
UFC 322 Super Preview coming here with me and Tommy.
Are you going to be an HQ like every day?
this week? Yes. Yes, I will. I suspect. I will. I'm going to be at the fight Saturday as well.
So hopefully I'll see some of our our donks out there. UFC 322 at MSD. If you can afford it.
You know, if anyone out there can afford it. All right. That's it. Long Island, Luke, what do you want to tell these people?
Bet breakdown coming out tomorrow. I'm going to be on No Bet's barred this week with Jed and Prop Kway is coming Friday.
But we'll talk about the championship. The season two championship for $100.
So there's a chance we got some scheduling conflicts. I might have to do like a one-off matchup this week.
and then the championship next week.
We'll see what happens, but, you know.
All right, that's it.
LT, that's all I got for you.
Okay.
That's all I got for you.
For LT, it's BC.
Thank you for playing.
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