MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC Vegas 69: Blanchfield submits Andrade | BKFC: Knuckle mania 3 | Ep. 409

Episode Date: February 20, 2023

On Episode 409 of MK, Luke and Brian recap a noteworthy weekend of MMA. Erin Blanchfield submitted Jessica Andrade in the second round on Saturday in the main event of UFC Vegas 69. Just how big of a ...victory was this? Was coach/cornerman Ben Davison right to throw the towel for Leigh Wood after being badly dropped by Mauricio Lara? Plus, a look at the results of BKFC: Knucklemania 3. Morning Kombat is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.     For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Reveley, reveveille, donks! Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life. This is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. Hey, it's the 20th of February.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Look at these two jabronis. It's time for Morning Combat. Hi, everyone. I'mth of February. Look at these two jabronis. It's time for morning combat. Hi, everyone. I'm merely one half, 50% of your hosting duo. I joined you from the capital of the status of needles right here in Washington, D.C. My name is Luke Thomas, joined by the king of CTE and ED. It's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian Campbell.
Starting point is 00:01:26 That was a really unfair intro. How are you doing? Yeah, if you were looking to hurt me, you got me, brother. Congratulations. But, you know, the king of CT. Don't ever forget it. I'm back, baby. I'm back with a bang-to-ee.
Starting point is 00:01:40 And a weird weekend of fights, but a fun one, Luke, okay? I flew home from Topeka, had a chill couple days. I'm ready to come out swinging right now. Okay. When you left Topeka and you got back to Connecticut, how happy were you to have indoor plumbing again? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Topeka was, Luke, who we thought they were at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Okay. Let's leave it at that. All right. Dude, Bill Hicks in the 80s was like, or in the 90s, I guess, was kind of like, let's leave it at that all right dude bill bill hicks bill hicks in the 80s was like bro or in the 90s i guess was kind of like let's be real like there's serious pockets of humanity in the united states it's really quite true but yeah so shouts to all the mk listeners in topeka you've got nothing else to do uh but you're right favorite my favorite bill hicks comedy special is luke the one that dennis leary stole? Yeah, No Cure for Cancer by Dennis Leary, 1991.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Absolutely. I mean, he really did. If you go watch old Bill, have a bunch of Bill Hicks books, too. If you actually go watch Bill Hicks and he put the microphone in his throat, it's like, oh, my God, buddy. You really just took that, didn't you? All right. It's a great bit.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I mean, if you're going to steal a bit, that's a good one. But, okay, neither here nor there. You're right, BC. Is it B for Sutherland? Yeah. I mean, come on. Come on, Dennis Leary. That was my favorite guy. That was my guy, Luke. one but okay neither here nor there i mean you're right for sutherland yeah i mean come on come on dennis leary that was my favorite guy that was my guy luke and now you tell me
Starting point is 00:02:49 it's like fifth grade santa claus all over again you know dennis leary was your guy it was my guy with a bullet dude that was my comedian okay you're a baseball glove get on that truck i mean that's just a great line that's just a great line next stop vietnam surprise the fuck out of them yeah i don't know if that's culturally sensitive yeah i mean you probably could have skipped that one but you know you're there you're the guy who karate chops the air so what can we expect hey nice grogu uh coffee mug there anyway we got a lot to get to today to your point there wasn't anything there wasn't one standout enormous event but there was a lot of little pieces that together actually made a pretty interesting combat sports weekend. So thumbs up if you're watching on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Obviously, hit subscribe if you're new here. And if you're listening on the podcasts, leave us a nice review on whatever platform that may be. We're going to get to, let's see. I'm sure you're going to have some show boxing highlights and have you seen this shit. But obviously, we're going to get to Aaron Blanchfield's big win over Jessica Andrade, some BKFC, some boxing news, and a final, what I hope is anyway, a final, final bow on UFC 284. I mean, how many more bows can we tie for that bullshit, Luke? Okay. Well, they just keep going, but I think this is probably at least for now the final one. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:03:58 But BC, I want to remind folks, Showtime is the label that pays, Showtime.com. You can get a 30 day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can bounce. And I'm told, BC, and you were told as well, if I'm not mistaken, there is a sale on the merch site today. What is the story? Yeah, so not only can you be wearing this fine T-shirt, this great hat right here at morningcombat.store, but remember that UK merch that our boy Big Ray, RJ Dunj dunkel favor made for us in advance of our
Starting point is 00:04:26 mk in the uk live show yes all that stuff must go we're talking about mk gta we're talking about the union jack flag brother all that stuff is discounted and priced to sell right now morning combat dot store so if you wished you were at the live show if you were but you didn't catch any of oprah's flying gifts to the crowd get on our merch site right now okay tell them bc sent you uh no codes necessary i don't believe luke this stuff must go right now okay so there you have it go get it go get it everyone please do yeah uh bc are you are you doing all right otherwise you're ready to get this going yeah i met a bunch of mk fans randomly in the wild luke um i got there was a guy in san antonio who
Starting point is 00:05:10 was selling soap at the bottom of the elevator check out this cool fight club soap i got that he made himself big mk fan he hooked me up big big shout out to that guy right there i i legit think we forgot to include it in the rundown it's something we've talked about doing but i believe we may have missed it mikey if you're and i know he is watching can you send us the updated results for okay bet because i believe bc i don't know how you did i know for a fact i went four for five you went four and one i went one and four and i know you know oh should we panic am i gonna have to buy tickets to the Culture Corps right now? Nope, Luke, nope.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's early. This is a game of runs, okay? It's early, all right? It's very early here. BC, I think you might be bad at this. I mean, here's the sad truth of it. I'm not good at it. You must be horrendous at this.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Well, you know, I'm emotional, Luke, when it comes to betting, you know, and i take chances and i tried to play it safe this week and you saw what happened one and four out the door so i'm gonna come back with a new strategy this friday for okay bet what do we have this weekend we got what like uh we got jake paul's back i think krillov is fighting ryan span this weekend yeah yeah um so there's a Showtime Championship boxing card, so I'm going to be doing my due diligence. Also, the rematch between Euroslob Amaslob
Starting point is 00:06:30 and, in your famous description, as well as Logan Storliefer, they're going to unify the welterweight titles in Bellator. That's actually a really good one. Yeah, that's a great fight. So I'm going to make it back this weekend. You're going to see, okay? But BC is 5-14, according to Mikey Mormal,
Starting point is 00:06:44 our intrepid producer, and I'm sure Luke is much better than that. weekend you're gonna see okay but bc is 5 and 14 according to mikey more mile our jesus our intrepid producer and i'm sure luke is much better than that you know yeah i mean i'm not again i'm not great at this i'm 13 13 and 6 is luke 13 and 6 okay i'm what four and oh boy okay i got some ground to make up luke okay so you're the washington commanders and i'm the kansas city well not even i'm really more like the Jacksonville Jaguars all right BC let's get this party started if we can here we'll start with UFC where we customarily do number one BC it I mean this was I I thought she was going to get it done I did not know she was going to look this great doing it Aaron Blanchfield defeats Jessica Andrade via second
Starting point is 00:07:22 round submission lots of things we got to get to on this one, BC. So first things first, how big of a victory is this? It's massive. It really is. 23 years old, a division that used to be, hey, you're two good wins away from getting a title shot. Now that division's filling up. I mean, let's not sleep on that point.
Starting point is 00:07:42 This is starting to become a competitive, well-rounded division. And what Erin Blanchfield did against one of the most dangerous customers in any weight class on the women's side was walk directly into the storm, take what Andrade had to offer, wear it, right? Shake it off and stand in and deliver her striking to frustrate the more raw and limited opponent. But one, Luke, I felt like, which fueled my prediction, that if this fight had gone three, four, five rounds. Look, Andrade never gets tired, never stops trying to win, is always dangerous. The fact that Blanchfield, at 23, had the skills, mindset, the confidence, all that stuff that goes with that. To essentially say, I've got someone dangerous in front of me.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So I'm going to take her out before she does the same to me. And you add in the speed of that trip, take down to going into side mount to, to taking the back, you know, and getting that choking before the, before her legs had even, you know, formed the body triangle around her waist before the hooks were in Luke, if you were an educated MMA observer, you would use that statement. This is as mature as it gets. And what's crazy is when we had Erin Blanchfield on the Room Service Diaries couch, we were openly, to her face, basically saying, you are so confident, so nonchalant, that it's almost as if, you know, there's a level of naivety here that you,
Starting point is 00:09:05 that you're going to get, you're going to find out the hardest way possible. No, Luke, it was us who found out. And, you know, this isn't, this isn't an apples to oranges comparison, but one of my favorite calls in boxing history was when Manny Pacquiao moved up and weighed in and knocked out Miguel Cotto in the 12th round. And, you know, the four, first four rounds of that fight were hellacious, but Pacquiao put it on him. And Larry Merchant afterwards said, you know, we knew Pacquiao was great.
Starting point is 00:09:32 He's better than we thought, it turns out. And, you know, we knew Erin Blanchett was very good. But, Luke, it turns out she's even better than we imagined coming in. And I think even with you having predicted her to win, is it possible you could have predicted it going exactly the way it did? Her absorbing hellacious bombs early, but staying the course, picking apart Andrade, frustrating her, and then taking her down and finishing her.
Starting point is 00:09:59 We have a star on our hands, and she's 23 years old from Elmwood Park, New Jersey. Welcome, Erin Blanchfield. Dude, I got to tell you, I texted this to you. You can tell the audience if I'm lying or not. I texted it to you or dude, I loved this win from Aaron Blanchfield, not merely because of its significance, right? Beating someone who was a former champion, frankly, rather thoroughly. I mean, it was back and forth on the feet, certainly at points in the first round, but in general, this was, I won't call it one way traffic traffic but this was decisive
Starting point is 00:10:25 right this was decisive but here's what I love about this fight dude she went right to center and put a jab right in Andrade's face from the word go no glove touch and then when she took her down took her down with authority and what did she do she didn't wait for the position to settle she didn't catch her breath she moved right into side control and then from there obviously she took the back like no hesitation i'm gonna get right in your face i'm gonna put a finger in your chest at least metaphorically speaking and i'm gonna let you know exactly what time it is she let andrage know from the word go what kind of fight this was going to be and Andrade is certainly not there to lay down nor did she right she put it back on her a little bit as I mentioned in that
Starting point is 00:11:10 first round there were some things I think that Aaron Blanche was going to want to do differently next time against any kind of puncher this was not a flawless performance in that sense but the spirit of the attack that she brought to say nothing of the tools that she used and how fairly refined they look to be see she looked like an experienced fighter in there but one talk about that the the footwork and the the accuracy in the boxing i didn't see that before in her previous fights on that level i did not she didn't have to show it she told us on that rsd couch it was like that and then we were, you know, it's I'm sure that she believes that. But we just have to see proof before that's true.
Starting point is 00:11:48 There you go. There you go. Now, of course, she did get into trouble in a little bit of spots. She got caught with like the double right hands, certainly end points moving into them. But in general, the jab was great. The lateral movement was great. She was turning, Jessica. That was great.
Starting point is 00:12:04 All of that was great. And it wasn't anything super flashy, just good timing, good distance, good setups. Um, and obviously some pretty decent pop herself. She was put, she was stinging Jessica with some of those shots, but then, you know, to mix it up and to show, we already knew she was a ground threat. My Lord, she is a very lethal, quick and decisive ground threat when she wants to be. but i just want to make everyone let i want i want i want everyone to know she faced a former champion who is probably the most physical fighter maybe in all of women's mma i mean that's that's not the craziest thing to say and got right in her face from the word go no hesitation she might have had fear but she didn't
Starting point is 00:12:43 act like it people talk about what athletic courage looks like. It looks like that. Well, Luke, I think the most important part about that, because she got tagged a bit. I mean, you mentioned it, but particularly after she landed that first jab to open round one, she got hit with a right cross that was the kind of punch that Andrade changes the tenor of the fights with, and it didn't change a thing.
Starting point is 00:13:04 So, Blanchfield, you heard the comment afterwards about how hard Andrade hits the tenor of the fights with, and it didn't change a thing. So Blanchfield, you heard the comment afterwards about how hard Andrade hits in the future. She doesn't want to get hit like that. But her ability to not sell the pain or anything that goes with Jessica Andrade standing in front of you and loading up was the key part, because I think the second biggest punch she got hit with
Starting point is 00:13:21 was the one in the second round right before she got the trip takedown. So maybe that was sort of the onus she felt in that sequence that like, I can't let her get any more of these because, you know, it's going to put me in a bad spot. But look, to not even sell an ounce of what those punches were doing, what they could do, what the buildup of fear is like when you finally face a big time puncher and you go oh okay this is what can happen dude like how many fighters would have altered their game plan would have had a tell would have shown some type of weakness that andrage could jump on dude blanchfield shut those doors down in her demeanor and how she followed up with strikes that did you see that one sequence at the end of the first round where she frustrated Andrade so much by darting in and out, using footwork and angles?
Starting point is 00:14:08 Then Andrade started going into full-on berserker mode, which is the mode she entered in when Zhang Weili knocked her out to win the title in China a few years ago. She completely bamboozled one of the greatest fighters in women's history, who is a knockout threat across three divisions, a former champion, a former title challenger at multiple weight classes. And, you know, end of the day, like you said, not completely one-sided,
Starting point is 00:14:32 but the ease, the fricking ease that she went from zero to finish. Like when we, even, even after the dominations of Miranda Maverick, of, of Molly Meatball, you know, the win against Aldrich in between.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Dude, there are levels to this. So when we got Erin on the couch and she's like, yeah, Valentina, bring her on. You know, I'm not sitting, I wasn't sitting here saying, you know, does Erin not have the skills? But how does a 23-year-old girl who like took, you know, who grew up taking like recreational taekwondo, how do you just come into this level, this stage,
Starting point is 00:15:06 and just walk in like it doesn't bother you? Luke, intangible-wise, toughness, the way she's wired, Erin Blanchfield is different. And I can't believe just a couple months later, after we sat down with her, if she's going to fight Valentina Shevchenko next, which is a nice spinoff debate we can have in terms of who's next in this division and what this win actually means, I think a lot of us are going to be giving her a chance.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And even after the Meatball Molly domination, would you have said that, Luke? Would you have said that she has a chance at upsetting Valentina Shevchenko and being the champion? I know I needed this performance, but even with this performance, I can't believe that we're here. Yeah, I would have said she had a chance, just not a great one. And now I put up a poll. These are unscientific, to be very clear. But I put up a poll on Twitter yesterday. It's been up for about 12 hours, maybe even more than that, maybe closer to 13 or 14.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I don't know the math, but a while at this point. And it's split at, I mean, just, here's what I wrote. Aaron Blanchfield will be the one to take the UFC flyweight title from Valentina Shevchenko. That's the statement, right? Do you think that's a true statement or a false statement? It's roughly 50-50, but with a slight, ever so slight lead for 50.7 to 49.3 for that being a false statement for the people who uh who took my poll but still the fan base is pretty evenly split bc so let me just ask you let's say that they obviously the grasso fight is next for shevchenko what chance do you give grasso do you give blanchfield a better one and ultimately like how real of a threat is Blanchfield to Shevchenko?
Starting point is 00:16:47 I give her a better chance than Alexa Grasso. And that comes down to styles. You know, Grasso, you know, she's competent on the ground, but I think her boxing is her calling card and her ability to stand in there. The problem with somebody like Shevchenko, she's just too perfect as a counter striker in terms of positioning, in terms of accuracy. I mean, everything that comes into that, she's just too perfect as a counter striker in terms of positioning, in terms of accuracy. I mean, everything that comes into that, she's scientific. But obviously, the Tyler Santos fight opened up our eyes and doubled down on what we learned
Starting point is 00:17:14 in the Jennifer Maya fight, which is that Valentina can be human against the right style. Well, against Tyler Santos, we straight up had a scoring debate over whether Valentina should have still been the champion and whether they should have ran back an immediate rematch. So, Luke, yeah, I give Erin Blanchfield because if there's any hole in Valentina's game, or hole would be the wrong word. I guess it would be more of, you know, where are there areas where she's a little bit more human than she's not. I wouldn't say outright her wrestling because look at what she did against Jessica Andrade. I mean, that was eye-opening, the level of domination where she purposely took Jessica down at will.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And then just, I mean, crucifixed her. It was dominant. But you're not going to do that to Erin Blanchfield. And what kind of success can Blanchfield have in the grappling department against the great champion? The fact that we now know that Aaron is not likely to break mentally, and there are levels to breaking mentally, by the way, Luke, there are, you know, Oh crap, I'm getting dominated. Let me go into a fight or flight.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Either I'm going to just try to survive or I'm going to force myself into getting knocked out. You know, there there's different levels to that, but you know, Aaron Blanchard can carry out a game plan. She's confident. She doesn't waver in the face of adversity. So is she a legitimate threat for this world title no matter who has it next? 100%. She is kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:30 and there's still time for Macy Barber, by the way, so I don't mean to say this, but she's kind of fulfilling the promise that Macy Barber tried to show when she arrived in this division and said, I'm going to be the youngest UFC champion. I'm going to beat Jon Jones's record. And look, she's had a couple setbacks to her credit.
Starting point is 00:18:44 She's worked it back around, which she's not at the level that Erin Blanchfield is at right now, Luke. So this is, you know, a prospect that talked a big game that's walking right
Starting point is 00:18:52 into the title picture. Now, my question on the rollback to you is will she get what she told Paul Felder afterwards that she wants, the winner of Shevchenko
Starting point is 00:19:01 versus Grasso? When you consider two things, Luke, one, Tyler Santos probably deserved that title rematch if we're really being fair, and two, Manon Farrow is coming on and is, what, number one ranked here. So what are we doing moving forward here?
Starting point is 00:19:17 How does the future of this play out? I think they'd be foolish to give Fioro a title shot over her, even if we can grant that Fiora has. Actually, I'm not even sure that's true. I'm not sure how they compare in terms of the number of ranked wins or even total fights in the division at this point. She might have more. I'd have to double check.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I don't know. And certainly, fostering the French market is not an idle consideration, something you would really want to do, which they've done to an extent, obviously, in many ways, not limited to bringing gone back to a show or their debut in paris all i'm saying is you you can do there's just not really a doubt about who is the best person in this division right now other than valentina shevchenko for furo is further along i suppose in the rankings or whatever it is right now but she doesn't pose nearly the threat to Shevchenko that what we saw out of Aaron Blanchfield on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Not even in the same ballpark. Grasso's already got her shot. It'll happen here actually relatively quickly, so we'll get some kind of answer there. I think Grasso will make it competitive, but ultimately I just don't know what she has that's better than the champ. And that's really what you have to ask yourself. What does this other person have that is better than the champ, that they can lord that over the champ? And I don't know if Blanchfield is exactly a better striker than Shevchenko.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I don't think that she is. But I think she will make it at least at times competitive. And I do think, and this is the key, she's going to be able to find her way into the takedown. And I think she's probably far better on the ground, or at least certainly better in general on the ground. and that to me makes it just a much more exciting and intriguing fight I think for those reasons and what she was able to do against Andrade she's going to skip the line probably relatively probably easily I think she's going to be next here and I
Starting point is 00:20:58 I think her chance to beat Shevchenko is as live as as it's ever been yeah for anyone in her title reign look if they go Tyler Santos versus Fierro, that's a great fight as well. Obviously, we're all excited that Tatiana Suarez is coming on. There's some younger fighters who are still one or two wins away, like a King Casey O'Neal, Macy Barber that I mentioned. Tracy Cortez is on a run. I mean, look, suddenly this division is kind of fun, kind of fun right now. And I'm into that. So I'm curious
Starting point is 00:21:27 because Blanchfield making this leap now gets us excited about a title fight. You know, if Valentina keeps the belt against Alexa Grasso, do you think Valentina is slipping or do you think that was just, look, you know, you're going to, you're going to try to defend the belt every three, four months, like Valentina is trying to do every five, six, you're going to, you're going to try to defend the belt every three, four months like Valentina's trying to do, or every five, six. You're going to catch some style matches, some tough outings. How do you reconcile the performance Valentina had against Tyler Santos in light of the domination she had before that and try to figure out exactly where the champion is right now? I just think she's coming to the end of her prime. Let me give you the exact age of Valentina Shevchenko, so I don't say anything super crazy here.
Starting point is 00:22:08 So Valentina Shevchenko, according to the internet, is 34. She takes great care of herself. I think she'll actually have a fairly long end of her prime, relatively speaking, and then even post-prime, whenever that happens. I think she'll still be pretty good if she decides to compete. But I think she's probably competing for a long time. I think she's kind of getting to be somewhere initiating the last stage of her prime, which means, listen to what I'm saying, she's still in it. She is still in that portion of it. But I think she's coming down off the peak,
Starting point is 00:22:37 and obviously someone like Blanchfield is just rocketing up there. Life is all about timing, right? Maybe Shevchenko had her absolute very best and Blanchfield had her very best. Who knows what a fight like that would look like? But you fight them at the time in which you fight them and at the stage in which they are at and their career and their physical health
Starting point is 00:22:58 and their mental wherewithal and everything else. These are the real ingredients about what makes a fight. And I just feel like, again, am I boldly predicting Blanchfield beats her? It's hard to pick very confidently against Shevchenko. She's just too well-rounded and too defensively sound, especially in a five-round contest too, right? You see like a three-round contest, Shevchenko actually can be beaten because you can take a round or two from her in various places, right? A fight can be up and down with her, but over the course of a five-rounder, that's less true. So it's just hard for me to predict that she can do that.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But when you just look at the contenders and you say, what are the things that they have right now that gives you a reason to believe they can lord that over Shevchenko for enough time to either get their hand raised or put her away. You just don't see that with most of these contenders. Tatiana Suarez is sitting at the back end of the dark horse contendership queue. We have to see what happens with her. But right now, Blanchfield already shows you something that makes you believe, there's good reason to believe she can actually implement that in a successful way
Starting point is 00:24:03 over the champion. for that reason alone push her to the front and by the way she wants all the smoke anyway if you give her somebody who's like number five in the division bc she's gonna run over them like who do you think she's gonna not just she's gonna beat the other contenders at this stage give her the champion well said luke well said i do have if i was on team blanchfield getting the title next i would fear the marketing potential of firo fighting for a belt in paris if that was something they wanted to work out in terms of timing but i agree with you overall and you know how old does it make you feel luke that uh when aaron blancho was born i was a 21 year old college junior who had just decided to drop out and major in bedpan technology
Starting point is 00:24:48 yeah so uh yeah dude remember she didn't even not only could she not name a member of the Wu-Tang clan she didn't know who they were yeah the new generation is now okay all right it's now it's the new generation is now Luke you're old deal with it okay yep no I accept it's now it's her the new generation is now luke you're old deal with it okay yep no i accept it i accept it right uh let's talk about the rest of that card point number two here or topic number two so ufc vegas 69 was this is my favorite bc i just want to point something out everyone always talks about oh it's the cards everyone says are not going to be good those are the best nope turns out that the car that we thought was going to suck sucked all the Ds. I just want to point that out.
Starting point is 00:25:28 We were exactly right. We told you it was going to happen, and it did happen. So please let's put to bed this promoter bullshit that they get you to repeat because they think you're a parent. Oh, it's the one you ever bought your dreams on. Nope. Nope. We slept on it for a good reason, and we were right.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Okay. That being said, BC, by by the way i just want to point out we're now about to ask a question about an alt like is the is william knight's performance the worst in ufc history now dude if you get knocked out in seven seconds i suppose that is worse because you did like truly less than nothing but in terms of anything that went to a decision, I'm not doing a bit, and I'm not trying to beat up on the guy. It's just a reality. That performance by William Knight, B.C., for one that went the distance,
Starting point is 00:26:13 is one of the worst in UFC history. It just is. Well, dude, our guy's jacked, first of all. I know this is not his first UFC fight, but I see Manchester, Connecticut. I'm like, yeah, let's go. Let's get fitted for another member of the CT see Manchester, Connecticut. I'm like, yeah, let's go. Let's get fitted for another member of the CT Royal family, Luke. Okay, me as the king, Glover as the whatever he wants
Starting point is 00:26:33 to be. Then, of course, Luke, there's apathy, and Dana was born in Manchester, Connecticut too, but William Knight had a bizarre one, a bizarre night. His lead leg was effed up early, but he committed to a very comical style to protect it the rest of the way. This is three straight losses, Luke. Do you think he's got a one-way ticket out of the UFC now?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Because I don't know how you justify any part of that except for dude knows where the gym is and congratulations. He's looking good, Luke gym is and you know congratulations he's looking good luke looking good listen he looks like he's strong as balls from everything we know he's strong as balls i'm not wishing on him unemployment but like you know listen we beat up on the ufc a lot and we criticize them a lot they're you know the 800 pound gorilla in the room and so for that reason they're going to catch a lot of strays but we should also just be honest
Starting point is 00:27:24 when like they get messed with. If you're the promoter, you are well within your right to release someone when they turn in a performance like this to say nothing of the fact that there's, this is the, is it the third consecutive loss? Is that what you said? Yeah, third stray. Yeah, I mean, they're well within their rights to let him go. Again, I don't wish that upon him.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I don't think that's something that doesn't bring me joy to say. But you just, this is the highest level of prize fighting this is that performance and i'm not saying anything he doesn't know a performance is unacceptable it's unacceptable um so that was really weird it almost made me feel like he was like i mean i don't think it was intentional but like how do you do that for that long without it being intentional? Something has to be like really off with you. And if that's the case, BC, you shouldn't be fighting. You should figure out what's going on internally to get right. So something bad doesn't really happen.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I mean, we had the Beverly Hills Ninja and the co-main event, despite having lost three of four all by stoppage coming in. So Luke, I would say that outside of the main event and outside of the spirited brawl that alexander hernandez and the great veteran jim miller put on um this entire card gets the william knight treatment from me i just don't i didn't understand it and it wasn't entertaining so there you go uh very quickly any thoughts on alexander hernandez beating jim miller it was fun to watch uh hernandez still gets hit a lot. I get criticized often by my friends on the CBS Sports Combat editorial team for once making the statement that Hernandez has some legitimate
Starting point is 00:28:53 upper-bound potential here in this division, Luke. Okay. You know, I've made bad picks before. Follow me on OKBet, all right? But, you know, he got the job done. I picked him to win. That was all good. But, yeah, I mean, what do you want me to say about this UFC fight night card, Luke?
Starting point is 00:29:09 It sucked. Well, I'll say this. This was one of the better wins of Hernandez's career. Now, obviously, if you go back to his two-fight debut against OAM and then Benil Darius, yeah, that's a lot better. He just one-punched Benil Darius. That's amazing. But since then, it's been, to put it lightly up and down this was the and he took this one on short notice for
Starting point is 00:29:31 him to take it on short notice go back to 155 which I do think is the better weight class form no matter what he says and to jab Jim Miller's face for three rounds beat him up put decent footwork actually good footwork together not make a ton of mistakes, and even when mistakes were made, not compounding them with other mistakes, like just limiting the damage to what it was, getting out of bad spots like that rear naked choke attempt in the third. I thought this was a really nice performance
Starting point is 00:29:56 from Alexander Hernandez. I think he deserves some credit for... Dude, I tell you what, man, I lost a lot of confidence in him after that Billy Q performance. This was majorly restorative to me. Well, I mean, what, man, I lost a lot of confidence in him after that Billy Q performance. This was majorly restorative to me. Well, I mean, in that Billy Q fight, he was having big moments. I mean, it was a shootout, Luke.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I know, but he faded so bad. He didn't fade here. No, and for him to get out of this choke at the end showed the fighting spirit in him. I thought he deserved the win. It's a good win for Alexander Hernandez. But, you know, it was also closer maybe than it should have been even with respect for for you know what jim miller has accomplished and he's a tough out for anybody in the middle of the pack here um yeah i mean look the card sucked okay
Starting point is 00:30:34 okay last thing i'm gonna say one of the ones i did pick despite doing like i usually don't do any i try not to do a pick without some measure of tape study, but sometimes it does happen. The one pick I got the most right on a okay bet was I picked, I think, Felipe Lins to stop OSP, or at least that one to end in a stoppage pretty quickly, and it did. But even then, dude, it ended much quicker than even I thought it was going to. It didn't even go a minute. Felipe Lins just punches.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I think he punched out OSP's lights, and he couldn't last very long at all it was a disaster bc you look at his record of late it's just been a lot of not great uh yeah i was 39 years of age time to retire i i think it is and i was playing fuckball games in terms of the betting you know i've i've bet i've bet against osp so many times only to see him knock people out and surprise you this wasn't one of those moments. We can see the finish coming up on Have You Seen This Shit? But yeah, Luke, it's the end of the line.
Starting point is 00:31:29 He's already done the heavyweight experiment. Big win. You know, good stoppage for Felipe Lenz. It was early. He gets a big name on his resume. But, you know, I guess that was the bright spot of the preliminary cards. Unless you like, to be fair, the fight that got fight of the night honors was the preliminary featured bout between Nazim Sadikov and evan elder and i don't know if you saw evan
Starting point is 00:31:48 elders celebration afterwards when he got the bonus and he was crying in the hotel room and it was you know it was it was a nice moment there he got stopped on cuts in the third round but um you know the fact that you're continuously trying to get me to break down this card against my own will luke you know it's it's it's it's going to cause a divide between us i mean i did put these questions in the rundown which you did hand approve i just want to be very clear about that i did i did i did all right with that in mind bc let's actually uh move over to boxing if we can topic number three this was an interesting one so lee wood who had that amazing win where he knocked Mick Conlin out of the ring after Mick Conlin early put it on him. He was back in action this weekend.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Ben Davison, the former trainer for Tyson Fury, in his corner. And Lee Wood and Mauricio Lata were having a great fight, BC. Wouldn't you agree? In fact, Lee Wood was down at times early and I think battled back a lot and had a great run through the course of this fight. I believe he was up on the judges' scorecards when the towel was thrown, and that's just it. He gets dropped badly, BC, very badly.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I wonder if we have the highlights or at least pictures of it. I'd love to see if we can show it. It was a horrible, horrible punch that put him down, and he looked to be in dire straits. He did get up, kind of answered the bell, but then Ben Davison threw the towel, fight over Mauricio Lara wins. There was a lot of debate inside boxing
Starting point is 00:33:17 about whether or not Ben Davison, who, by the way, doesn't have an elite prize fighting background himself as a competitor, certainly as a trainer he does, but as a competitor he does not, throws towel and so the question was was it too early lee wood gets on twitter yesterday and says i agree with it even though in real time he was incensed at the idea of the fight being stopped having gone back and looked at it bc was ben davison right to throw the towel i mean, you always want to lean in this dangerous sport
Starting point is 00:33:47 on the side of caution, and if a trainer is knowing his fighter and pulling him early, would you rather have that than the opposite? Think Raquel Pennington against Amanda Nunes and the big debate that came out of that. Yeah, so if this is him knowing his fighter, then I get it. But the situation kind of does matter. This was a title fight. It was a back and forth war between two punchers. You mentioned it. Wood got rocked early,
Starting point is 00:34:11 got hit with bombs, but put together a nice three, four, five round run there where he was landing the more telling blows. He had a cut over his left eye from an accidental headbutt, but when he got dropped, it was a rocket left hook. There's no question about it. An absolute kind of finisher type of punch. Wood did get right back up, got on his feet, beat the 10 count. Did he look a little bit weary? Yes. But here's where, in some cases, the scenario does matter. This was round seven of a 12-round championship fight.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Wood was up on the scorecards, and there was 10 seconds to go in the round. So could Lara have jumped in and and you know badly finished wood off yes it's possible it's just as possible that wood could have held gotten to the end of the round got the one minute break in between got revived and came back out is that you know dangerous in the long run well yeah but that's prize fighting right here this is a world title bout you know wba featherweight title on the line here at featherweight. A spirited battle between the two. Did it feel premature in the moment? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:10 As his fighter was summoned to restart, Davison fired the towel, hit the referee right in the chest, and that was the end of it. A fight this good, a fight this big for Wood who had upset Conlon, and we know Josh Warrington's in this picture as
Starting point is 00:35:25 a former champion who got upset by by Lara and we know there's a lot of big options here and let's give credit to Eddie Hearn and his own you know they made this fight feel a lot bigger than it was in the promotion and also in terms of watching it it was a fun-ass fight I did feel like it was too early but if this was Ben Dav, who was a foot and a half away from his fighter when he got dropped, seeing something protecting him for the future, you can't overly criticize that. You really just can't. But yeah, Luke, it felt like he had more to give.
Starting point is 00:35:55 The fight was in the balance. It was a big fight, a fun one. Man, that was tough for me to see Lee Wood get that, even if it was more likely than not, percentage-wise, that he wasn't going to win that fight I think he was up 59 55 on all three judges scorecards at the time of the stoppage here's my only thing BC and I don't know if this is true I don't know if they'll ever this will ever be true I'm literally just inventing something but it makes me wonder if you just look at the circumstances of the seventh both in terms of where Wood was in the fight
Starting point is 00:36:26 and being ahead at that point, as well as, to your point, about 10 seconds left being in the round, then yeah, the stoppage does feel a little paternalistic. I do wonder about whether or not Wood had been hurt in training previously. In other words, he gets dropped with this huge punch and we can both agree it was a it was it honestly bc i don't know if you agree with this it looked
Starting point is 00:36:50 to me like the punch flat put him out and then him his head hitting the canvas may have just woken him up because that was a salacious punch i wonder if he'd been knocked out in sparring previously i wonder if he'd been hurt in training recently and then davison saw this and was like nope fuck that dude we're talking about real bad brain injury after this and even though there was 10 seconds through it like in other words what are the circumstances that have to be there for a guy to throw when he has 10 seconds left one either a bad decision or at least a hasty one at a bare minimum right hard to call anything preserving the brain bad but maybe hasty for the circumstances or he knows of something that
Starting point is 00:37:30 happened previously where this was then adding on to that and he just couldn't abide by it by virtue of what consequences could be ahead it was in the corner where he was standing so to the point you made if you watched this fighter get rocked and then kind of hit his head and bounce back into it, is that enough reason to save the guy? Yeah, if you want to play that angle, if you want to play the humanity side, the safe side, yes. It's just hard because look, the round before, he had rocked Lara. Wood had landed a huge shot. And, you know, this became a two-way standing war. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:02 It still had elements of a boxing match. It wasn't rock them, sock them, but they were going in there to close the distance and land bombs. Title fight, I don't know. You take that risk. That's what we've done in the history of boxing. You take that risk. But to your point, to the things we may not know,
Starting point is 00:38:17 I mean, Davidson is some, I like Ben Davidson a lot. I think he's a good personality. I love the breakdowns that he does when he's used on television as an analyst. But to your point, Luke, he didn't have this big fighting career himself. He kind of got picked out of the scrum by Tyson Fury to become the lead trainer when he was just 25 and part of the extended team. And I do really believe that he's a smart trainer, especially defensively. The work he did with Tyson in that first Deontay Wilder fight is a great example of that. But he's very young, doesn't have a long, detailed track record.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I think people love to criticize him quickly in that regard. If you're going old school, you can criticize him in this case. And, you know, good for Lee Wood to get the back of his trainer afterwards and realize he was trying to protect him. And, you know, he will fight again, Luke. You can sustain serious injury when you get back up and you're still out on your feet and you're still going to fight. Like, no one's going to sit here and say, you know, and debate the danger in that.
Starting point is 00:39:10 It's just that that's boxing and this was a title fight. So you can understand both sides of the argument for sure. Okay. Here's the part that does get me. So after the fight was over, there was, again, you've watched Lee Woods initial reaction.
Starting point is 00:39:28 He was not, he didn't understand it, which by the way, should also play a role in how much we assess, you know, the quality of the stoppage. But he afterwards took to social media and says he understands it and respects it and actually even appreciates it. BC, is it not impossible for you to imagine a scenario in MMA where not only does the fighter come out afterwards
Starting point is 00:39:51 and defend the stoppage via towel throwing, does it with a trainer who never basically fought, let's say at the UFC level at all whatsoever? Like, I can't even fathom that in MMA, and yet it just actually happened in boxing why why is that so impossible in this sport in mma that there's that there's not a quicker trigger is what you're saying that it's more no no no the point i'm trying to make here is like it's one thing that you get a guy to come out and be like wow this is really i respect my trainer even that alone is unusual in MMA.
Starting point is 00:40:25 We kind of had that debate, but to have it with a trainer who basically doesn't have any of the same commensurate prize fighting experience, like just a guy who's just a coach who never really competed in any kind of way similar to this, like all of those things never exist in MMA. And I'm trying to figure out why all of those factors are true. I mean, there have been elite coaches that weren't great fighters in MMA, though, to to figure out why all of those factors are true I mean there have been elite coaches that weren't great fighters in MMA though to be fair right like who Greg Jackson
Starting point is 00:40:50 I guess for us a hobby was he a great fighter Luke I didn't know but he has a black belt under John Danaher okay he did fight a little bit um I mean I I guess I get the spirit of the point I thought you were asking more on a danger level, maybe because boxing, we actually see deaths in the ring almost to an accepted level. I mean, obviously, it's a monster tragedy each time it happens, but I'm not going to lie when people criticize boxing media afterwards for kind of not following up on these stories and moving on to the next fight.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I think sometimes we do that to survive, Luke, as gnarly as that sounds, because it's so overwhelming when it happens. So from that side of it, again, if this was a trainer just knowing his fighter and not wanting to see him get badly hurt, none of us should have any issue with that. I understand that. Maybe that's why in MMA they're less as likely to throw in the towel and do that. But, I mean, I don't think we ever see the towel thrown in an MMA, do we? Ever.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Very rarely. It happens happens but very rarely you know stoppages in the corner between rounds for sure but not you know yeah bc let's get to um let's get to a little bkfc we don't do a lot of bkfc but they had a wild night they had a wild freaking night so topic number four let's talk about bkfc knuckle mania three took place i think in right around Albuquerque, New Mexico, uh, there's a lot to get to here. We'll go to the three biggest ones right away. BC Diego Sanchez loses yet again, this time to Austin trout. Now he didn't get stopped with punches. He got stopped with cuts, but the cuts of course were caused from punches. He accuses Austin trout of greasing.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Let's say UBC. is it time for diego sanchez to really just hang it up yeah it's been time it's been time some guys like you know what's that saying that you see sometimes luke printed on military things of you know all gave some but some gave all like diego sanchez gave all in basically every single fight he was a part of so while other fighters were more accepting of saying okay it's your it's your twilight's twilight there's a couple paydays out there for you if you want them so go do celebrity boxing go do bare knuckle go do whatever the hell you want i think in diego sanchez's case i mean look one thing that i don't think he gets
Starting point is 00:43:00 the credit for that he kind of should is is you know like Jim Miller Matt Brown right now he was able to linger and be relevant for a while and actually win some fights maybe he shouldn't have it to stay around but Luke comparatively to other guys I mean he's taken an extreme amount of punishment going back to his initial prime which was such the early days of the sport that it was more about two guys just running into each other. At some point, somebody's got to step in and say like, not just commission shouldn't approve this, but you know,
Starting point is 00:43:31 as a whole, the fight community shouldn't approve this. You know, how much is too much before you're just going to be like, yeah, he's probably going to, it's probably going to end badly for him, but just go out there and do what you want.
Starting point is 00:43:42 No, it's not about being competitive anymore. It's not about about that he lasted to the fourth round until the cuts happened and i mean he got beat up again luke you know how how far away is diego sanchez's situation right now from bigfoot silva how far away luke um there are some meaningful differences but i i see your point that there's not a huge gap okay so like the fight game has to end eventually whether you can spin it off into a career as a trainer gym owner broadcaster or not the fight game's got to end for everybody at some point it's not a what's what do they always say luke it's not a career it's an opportunity right it's like well that's what dana says that's not what everybody says that's okay his way of underpaying everyone i certainly get that but when you look at the
Starting point is 00:44:28 average for like careers you know and same thing in the nfl right what's the average nfl career i don't i don't know the stat off him but you used to hear that was it like two years luke three years something like that i mean it's sort of you can only take so much this guy's given so much to the game i mean he's a hall of fame personality he's in the Hall of Fame for having a great fight. He's kind of a borderline Hall of Famer to begin with just for how long he's there. I wish there was another way. I wish there was another career he could bounce back into
Starting point is 00:44:56 because it's not fun for us to watch this, Luke. No, it's not great. Yeah, the answer, of course course is he should have retired quite some time ago uh do you know i don't have much to say about austin trout or the greasing controversy i just at this point it's like that that i if it's true then then yeah of course there would be a problem but it's like i'm so uninterested in the idea of diego sanchez continuing to take punishment that i almost don't even care if that makes sense. Like just,
Starting point is 00:45:26 just end it. Uh, just, I mean, sadly, Luke, if, if no one ends it for him,
Starting point is 00:45:32 he's going to end up in power slap. He's going to end up in power slap people. Like this is the direction it goes. So, you know, I, I mean, I,
Starting point is 00:45:43 is there a, do you have one boxer who you feel like particularly fell off or hung on too long? You could pick any number of them, but is there one that really sticks with you? Many of our heroes. OK, James Toney, Roy Jones Jr. I mean, how many of them looked to different degrees of of the long term effects that they put their body through? Right. Everybody's body is different for so many different reasons in your brain as well but i mean those are just two that jumped off but a
Starting point is 00:46:09 million there's a million long drawn out bad stories in boxing there's so many stories where a guy was at once in their early peak prime a contender but then just settled in being a journeyman for the rest of their career and they fought until they're 50 despite 25 losses like that happens a lot too luke and i don't know i just it's it's like bkfc just had a great weekend i know we're leading off with this co-main event they just had a great weekend look that i mean you know i finished up friday show box card went back to the hotel room my entire timeline was viral bkfc highlights they had a fun ass weekend but should we be even be looking at dave feldman and company and saying like some guys we just shouldn't be employing anymore yes i think it's time for bkfc and and you know it's fine that they wanted to put two guys from albuquerque in different sports together you know sort of it's like a hometown thing like the the i get the promotional angle is actually
Starting point is 00:47:00 pretty smart but you just have to be you have to exercise more discretion about what what fighters you're employing and at what time in their career um bc quickly for austin trout what do you think about welterweight bkfc champion luis palomino calling him out saying he wants to give him a title shot are you into that i've said this dude okay so bkfc everyone wants to make it all about bad news but there's good news too luis palomino is a guy who, you know, if you watched MMA a long time ago, you would know who he is, but maybe these days you might not. Never was able to make it to the UFC because he was here as an illegal immigrant for a time, and now he is obviously all that's gone,
Starting point is 00:47:38 but he doesn't have to worry about it. But he couldn't get legal status he needed to fight in the UFC, even though he was really ready for it. For him to have this second wind in his career now that his life is settled and everything is above board and where it should be, I love it. He's an action fighter. He's a fan favorite for those who understand his game. And, yeah, bring on Austin Trout.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Again, we don't really exactly know how well boxers will do in bare knuckle. Austin Trout doesn't give us the best answer, but he gives us yet more information about which to make an answer. I'm all in favor knuckle. Austin Trout doesn't give us the best answer, but he gives us yet more information about which to make an answer. I'm all in favor of it. Luke, my have you seen this shit will include some of this, but the one video that got failed was the John Dodson win. He had yet another knockout win and then did the backflip to celebrate. He's 2-0 now.
Starting point is 00:48:18 He stopped Jared Kid Gotti Grant. Some guys have, it seems, figured it out and made a nice adjustment here. I mean, Dodson's kind of like a guy they can build around, and I could see him winning the title in this bracket. Dodson is very much a guy who I think is a great signing for BKFC. He's still fast. He's going to be faster than a lot of the guys he goes up against because he was a great athlete.
Starting point is 00:48:42 He always had power. I mean, from day one, I was actually i you may not know this bc so one of the first big flyweight fights that happened after the ultimate fighter was one that i called it was a fight between um john dodson and a guy by the name of pat runes pat runes was actually one of demetrius johnson's training partners for a long time out there in Washington State. And it's kind of funny. It went the way that I believe the first fight with DJ went where Runiez got hurt bad by some of the power punching from Dodson, but then was able to storm back and win a five-round decision.
Starting point is 00:49:18 So it's a fight that Dodson lost, but it was one of my first introductions to the kind of power he can offer. It was incredible. In any case, dude, he still has big power he's always had big power he's still pretty fast he's still pretty athletic especially for this level of competition he beat the guy in a minute and 41 seconds into the first round hard to know what not to like from john dotson by the way also had a pretty good chin for a long time, too. Before we continue on to Greg Hardy and the main event, did you see the fans asked Eric Nixick
Starting point is 00:49:49 to share the text exchange you had with him at the MK and the UK live show? Which he did, yes. What a team player old Eric Nixack is, right? Yeah, I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing. You're doing skits and bits. you don't
Starting point is 00:50:05 have to be bc let's talk about it very quickly uh greg hardy losing very badly in the second round 19 seconds of round two he gets absolutely flatlined by this gentleman who looks like i don't know what his life story is josh watson you've been through some shit yeah yeah when you say been through some shit do you mean the the walls of some penitentiaries or what? Maybe. Maybe. I mean, Luke, so Hardy got knocked down and then he got knocked flat the hell out. Let's just, I mean, you know, people are coming here to see this.
Starting point is 00:50:35 This was a big night for MMA Twitter. They seem to have loved this, Luke. There was lots of people with lots of F Greg Hardy tweets that I saw. I mean, is it over for him well can we have a conversation here like how much are we allowed to hold greg hardy's past against him i mean you could just not like him as a fighter or personality but there seemed to be a large celebration to him losing in this manner is it so the issue with greg hardy is i mean first of all for like people who've done horrible shit in mma Greg Hardy certainly is on the list, but he's got company.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Got plenty of company. Let's just be honest about that. But I think the reason that people really hold on to it is because he didn't really ever face a ton of consequences about it. Obviously, his life kind of spiraled in a very unfortunate direction for him. And whatever opportunities he had in the National Football League, he couldn't really hold on to. Although a lot of that was obviously self-imposed as well. But the point being is, in terms of the judicial system, he never really faced any consequences. And he's never really owned up to it.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He's always been like, you know, he's tried to like, I definitely don't think he's doing messed up stuff now. He seems to have at least gotten that part of his life. Like day to day i'm going to be better about it but in terms of atoning for the mistake he seems rather resistant to the idea and uh i think that's what's rubbed people the wrong way that's fair that's fair i mean i feel like in a lot of his interviews he said the right things i also feel like he's a i don't know he's a little cringe on the microphone and people add that into the mix of what they don't like about him he's you know he's doing a boxing thing on the side
Starting point is 00:52:07 this was his first bkfc fight is there still gas in the tank and something with the name value where he could go on to find some level of success in some form of combat sports probably luke but uh damn he ran into a uh tattooed bald- man, and he got sent to the dark depths. So deal with that result as you may based on your own moral compass. People are putting him on trial over this. It was one fight. He got hammered out, Luke. But can we talk about this main event?
Starting point is 00:52:37 Let's do it. Can we talk about this light heavyweight title unification? To be fair, let's talk BKFC for real. Outside of like Paige Van Zandt parachuting in or Paulie Malignaggi against the GOAT Artem Lobov or something weird like that. We cover this, but we tend to cover it as like more on like the have you seen the shit angle of it
Starting point is 00:52:57 because it is combat circus for a lot of it. But this is where I got to give Dave Feldman and BKFC credit and the fighters involved. The build to this light heavyweight unification main event between the champion Lorenzo Hunt, the interim title holder Mike Richman. I mean, look, it was straight out of pro wrestling. It grabbed my attention multiple times. There was like multiple public incidents where they got in each other's face and fought and did crazy shit. They had to go in there and then have the fight that they did for one round in which Hunt got massively dropped and then got directly back up
Starting point is 00:53:31 and within five seconds flatlined Mike Richman. Bravo to everyone involved. This main event, even separate from Diego Sanchez and that circus, this got people actually buying and tuning in because it was juicy, it was evenly matched. And we got, as far as BKFC is concerned, an instant classic here. And this was a major part of this fight card becoming so viral and must-see after the fact.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I got to give them a lot of credit. And Hunt went on the microphone afterwards. He said he wants the winner of Arnold Adams versus Alan Belcher next. We know he's got an ongoing beef with Hector Lombard still. Look, BKFC is doing something right here. They do something right with the women and the buildup around the cattiness, Luke. They do cattiness well in BKFC.
Starting point is 00:54:18 They did well here, too. So you've got to give them that credit. Dude, Dave Feldman is a talented promoter. It's not that I don't think he's got some skills or that there's not viability to the product there seems to be a lane for it there see it's it's it's meaningfully different right it's meaningfully different from boxing it's meaningfully different from mma and and there seems to be something that can hold uh people uh and their attention and he is good at using that space now he's also you know made some questionable calls and it's not
Starting point is 00:54:45 above criticism but in general i agree with you i thought i thought this event delivered i i did the uh what's the show i can't remember any name anymore the the jed mishu and mike heck between the links btl yeah yeah btl i did the show with them and they were asking what would you rather watch this was like on thursday or something they were like would you rather watch bkfc or would you rather watch this particular ufc card and they were like would you rather watch BKFC or would you rather watch this particular UFC card and I was like dude BKFC I think that that that was a justified call in the end I don't think that's ever happened before and it's and it happened right there and yeah by the way not lost on me you going on that show with two guys I like a lot but you returning to MMA fighting Luke I was happy to see that yeah it's
Starting point is 00:55:22 probably a one and done if I'm just being honest but uh but i do like those guys and um they do let me ask you this because i mentioned who hunt called out but i didn't add the proper uh context to that so lamar hunt is the he was the cruiserweight champion already then he won the bkfc light heavyweight championship he just unified it here against mike richmond in a one-round thriller and now he wants to move up and become the heavyweight champion against the winner of Adams and Belcher. Is Lamar Hunt having this twilight of a potential three-division championship run in BKFC? Is that anything, Luke?
Starting point is 00:55:55 It's something, right? It's pretty cool. It's something. I'm not sure what it is. I've given that less than zero thought. You're only introducing this to me for the first time. So I don't know what to say. I have to think about it
Starting point is 00:56:05 but to your point man like they've got interesting guys they've got interesting rivalries not all of it works some of it doesn't work and some of it is nauseating but a lot of it is kind of interesting it's a mixed bag it's not just all bad or you know in many cases all good for highlights it's a it's a weird mogulman they're trying to trying to figure it all out all right let's go to point number five here bc this is what i meant about can we please for the love of god put a bow on this please can we end it here the western australia combat commission i believe this is the relevant athletic commission in obviously western australia aka in this particular case, Perth, released a report,
Starting point is 00:56:49 I think just before the weekend or on Saturday itself, detailing that to their awareness, no one on the UFC 284 card broke any rules related to weight cutting or anything else. And Jeff Nowitzki got out there, he was asked about it by Brendan Fitzgerald, and he was like, yeah, I mean, I'm not sure what else you want us to say. So let's recap, BC.
Starting point is 00:57:04 There's been no formal complaint lodged that we're aware of the three regulatory agencies the promotional entity and the two regulatory agencies have all said that you know here's what the best information that we have no one's filed a formal complaint we're not aware of any wrongdoing there's been not a single shred of publicly presented evidence that an either forensic or otherwise that tells you what Islam Makachev did or did not do. Can we finally admit that as from what we know, there's nothing to this story? Well, the only thing we had to this story was accusations. It seemed from Dan Hooker, you know, of course, a teammate of Volkanovski on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:57:44 pictures of his arm zoomed in with a bulging vein okay it sounds it does sound a lot like the accusations Triple G made to Canelo after the first fight saying you can see the track marks on his arm and stomach yet nobody cares my question is a larger one because the fuel of the of the MK fans that we love in respect to who challenge us at times and come at us was like, hey, guys, like it's illegal in all of Australia. So how are you guys just being OK with this? So you just said the most relevant point of we actually don't have proof, although I've seen some people say that Eugene Berman says he does have proof. I don't I can't confirm that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Here's what I said. We don't have any publicly presented or publicly available truth in terms of what has been shown to us there's nothing okay i'm not naive to what an iv can do even beyond dehydration in fact it was novitsky in the past who's given quotes you know detailed quotes about how ivs can be used to flush out the peds in your system in a quick manner and all that. My larger question is this, though, in terms of how much should we care or potentially villainize Mahachev,
Starting point is 00:58:52 is if it's legal everywhere else with the UFC juristics, I'm not overly worried if it's illegal in this one country in which this champion Mahachev had to go on the road to fight the hometown guy. And in that regard, I'm also, you have changed me, Luke. I'm a changed man because of you.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I also fully believe that almost anybody with money can beat the system and probably is at the highest elite level anyway. So I'm to me until I see actual proof and that can lead to some punishment. Even if I did have actual proof, what do you, how do you respond to that statement i made like can we just have universal rules on ufc shit across the board do you remember that couple years where every broadcast anik would have to say well tonight we're in this state so we're using this state's rules based on you know downed fighter and all that shit like what from drug use and testing through actual fighting rules through
Starting point is 00:59:45 scoring can we just get unified across the board no matter where the fights are taking place that it's essentially the same i disagree okay why why so i do agree that when the differences are slight and then in certain cases like retrograde like two hands on the mat, one hand on the mat, one hand, one knee, where it becomes like hard for the fighters to follow. And it's like a minor difference, but it could have a major implication. Yeah, that I don't like. That I think is a waste of time. But I tend to think of MMA a little bit like tennis. You've got Wimbledon.
Starting point is 01:00:21 You've got the Australian Open. You've got the New York Open. You have a clay court. You have a clay court. You have a grass court. The New York Open? I like that. That's well done. Well, what I'm saying is I don't mind if there's a ring or a cage
Starting point is 01:00:33 or judge it as a whole or judge it round by round. My only point is once you've got the round by round system, that should be the round by round system. In other words, those minor differences where you go state to state those are highly annoying but having different ways of fighting mma based on scoring and on surface yeah i actually think that's pretty cool okay if it was a different surface you're talking about tennis that has actual different surfaces if like okay like states a ring is 90 degrees with it's like the ropes i mean that's i mean you're standing on something that has to have traction.
Starting point is 01:01:06 But the point I'm trying to make is that's a very different way in which to fight someone in an octagon shaped cage. Okay. If the point of your argument is you would like a world where one promotion can be a ring, the other promotion or one state or one country and the other areas could be a cage and in some slight rule changes i do think that's different than the actual spirit of what i'm saying here in regards to the medical slash testing rules i mean luke if 100 which it is this is banned in australia and if there ultimately is proof that vulcan that sorry that uh mahachev used an ivy do you believe this should be a no contest do you believe this should be a him being stripped of the title i don't i i don't i would rather have universal rules on all of that uh but i want to hear your your side of it because i i feel i feel this is a lot of angry volkanovski fans i'm being really honest with you luke i feel this is a lot of angry Volkanovski fans. I'm being really honest with you, Luke. I feel this is a lot of angry Volkanovski fans. A lot
Starting point is 01:02:06 of all of this. Did Volkanovski win round four or whatever? All of this, or I should say a great deal of it is simply someone's a Volkanovski fan or they feel like he was wronged. So let me invest energy into any kind of
Starting point is 01:02:22 way in which I can undermine the legitimacy of Makachev's victory. And of course it was close. That is a fair thing to say. It's fair to think that Volkanovsky won under the way in which you scored it. Like we've been over that, all that's fine. But to your point, there's just a ton of protesting going on, manifesting itself in ways where like being unhappy with a decision should not show up. My attitude is very, very fucking simple. If he broke the rules or there is reasonable evidence to conclude that he did or there's a reasonable evidence or need for an investigation, fine. Do it.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Punish him. But every time anyone in a position of authority is asked, what's the score? Not only are they telling you they don't have any evidence, they're not even telling you that they have any reason to believe that there's evidence they don't have shit they don't have a formal complaint they have nothing no one has given the commission or any of these other relevant authorities anything to go on what do you want us to do i'm not saying dan hooker has no evidence i don't know if he does i'm not even saying Dan Hooker has no evidence. I don't know if he does. I'm not even saying Dan Hooker doesn't have reason to believe whatever it is he believes. Maybe he does. But what I'm asking MMA fans and friendly MMA media to stop doing is validating unsubstantiated claims and dragging people's fucking names through the mud that don't need to be there.
Starting point is 01:03:42 It is possible that Makachev broke a rule, in which case something should be done about it. But it is equally plausible he has done absolutely nothing wrong. There's no evidence for it. And the due process of the kinds of things that you should be protected from have just been totally run over by accusations that media ran with without ever trying to substantiate any of them first. Even if you don't think makachev is
Starting point is 01:04:05 the most sympathetic character somebody else will be it's about respecting the process bc it's about respecting like what has actually happened what do you have to go on to really like villainize and scrutinize someone and if you're in the public like us you have nothing you have nothing to go on stop doing it okay let me ask you this question again what if barriman and company can produce something that unequivocally shows proof do you think you just change that to a no contest and you do a rematch do you strip them of the title what's fair to you in that regard um i don't know if i'd strip them from the title i'd be happy to call it a no contest i mean i mean whatever penalty the commission thinks is relevant. Listen, you have to have rules.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I understand rules get broken because that's also the world that we live in. But you have to have rules. And the rules have to be met. If you don't have that, you don't have anything. You just have nothing. So you have to enforce a modicum of it. But it's like the commission is out there telling you, we don't even have a formal complaint. What is it you even have a formal complaint what is it you want us to do what is it you want us to do i just want i want
Starting point is 01:05:10 no one ever respects anyone's due process because they already decide that they're not sympathetic characters that's the part to me that gets me is it lazy to just say what i'm ultimately saying that usada has made decisions that have lost my credibility on them in the larger testing process in general so i'm just sort of like any debate in this area feels like all semantics to me a little i mean they changed these rules in 2019 making them far more lax all the reasons that they told us they couldn't do it apparently they now can but you know this is this is the thing i keep saying to people people think there's a bible of anti-doping right we know all of this these are the sanctified rules of it and i'm like dude they're just making it up as they go i mean connor is already on the ground these are sanctified
Starting point is 01:05:58 rules they're making it up as they go and they didn't even tell the public in 2019 well welcome to the welcome to the disaster that you created you don't even tell the media you don't tell the public it turns out you didn't tell the fighters at least not very well and now this all blows up into something because you didn't do shit about it at the beginning ever since they moved the jones fight from vegas to to to la for the gustafson rematch and just sort of like you know like i mean that that was an eye-opener to me and and how they dealt with the pulsing and then we're not going to release the results anymore and i yeah i mean in general luke i just yeah i'll leave it at that you said it's good that's good i mean you know listen who who takes checks from monopolists
Starting point is 01:06:42 usada does right so just understand where their bread is buttered what their business is Who takes checks from monopolists? USADA does, right? So just understand where their bread is buttered and what their business is. They decided to align themselves in an industry where the athletes have the least amount of protection possible. Just, you know. People think that they're like the good guys in the room who've got it all figured out they are zealots who are making it up as they go do you feel in general that the dagestan-based russian fighters are starting to get an evil empire feel from the rest of the world and how they're treated in this court of public opinion um they are certainly polarizing figures in ways
Starting point is 01:07:28 that surprise me i'm often surprised at the outsized reactions that they get uh for good or bad or you know maybe they deserve uh you know negative i'm not saying the negative response by itself is bad in certain cases but um they do seem to be lightning rods they do seem to be lightning rods for criticism. Because there's a lot of people that say, how come you guys aren't mentioning that they had only 24 hours to rehydrate for this fight, not 36? So that was even harder on Mahachev, who was cutting.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Right, right, right. So there was all those factors as well. They had the much narrower way of time. So again, if you he used i don't think that that it's a separate question of like did using the iv change the outcome in the fight i strongly would believe that's not the case i don't think it made a difference at all for him uh in terms of the the outcome of the contest but you know they might have to do it again by the way volkanovsky saying he'd be happy to go to abu dhabi so it's his turn to get booed which i appreciate from mbc
Starting point is 01:08:30 yeah it'd be good stuff look volk's a real guy he's not the one that's been pushing this as far as i know right i think he commented on it when he was asked by errol hawani in their interview and i you know i'm sure he doesn't love it to the extent that it is true which again we you and i have no reason to believe that it is but um i don't think it really made a difference in the outcome and again if somebody has proof turn this fucker in turn them in yeah it's not snitching you gotta you gotta obey the fucking rules here especially in a title fight but i'm waiting for someone to do that and they keep not doing it so are you following the helwani tony khan feud right now or is that out of your jurisdiction i did see one tweet come across i follow tony khan on uh twitter
Starting point is 01:09:10 from long ago well long before he ever did this i did see what he they're beefing huh they are they are yeah yeah ariel uh getting caught up in the storylines here on the pro wrestling side luke i see that i see he's a wwe superstar at the moment i guess so uh all right bc with that in mind our top five is done let's go to the part where they get to ask us the audience does uh questions it's time for dms and dogs that's right we've got male viewers male and viewers male viewers male he ha he friggin ha all right bc from at uh we put up our posts on social every sunday y'all fill it up and then we pull from there at dog dot stone real talk why do some fighters only start
Starting point is 01:09:52 trying to check kicks after they've already been hurt to the leg and body obviously night was a huge example but we also saw it to a lesser extent with emmet against yair bc what do you think well to stand in there in kicking range, you're usually trying to establish early in the fight something. Your jab, the fact that you're going to get inside and stay inside on somebody. So I think a lot of people like to no-sell the effects of that so they don't show any tell, so they can stand there
Starting point is 01:10:19 and then they get to a certain point of where it's starting to compromise them and then it's all about protection. I mean, that seems natural to me, Luke. Well, my answer was going to be a little bit different, which is that one, they probably feel like they can get people to stop it sooner or later with everything else that they're doing. And the other part too, is that like, I don't know, you know, have folks ever checked kicks?
Starting point is 01:10:41 It fucking hurts. It hurts to check. It doesn't feel good. I don't want anything to do with that. You ever slam your shin into the hitch on a trailer or something, Luke? You'll be down and out for a while from that shit. Yeah, it's extremely painful. I mean, you can't really do it very effectively unless you have deadened the nerves in the front of the shin for a long period of time.
Starting point is 01:11:01 And that comes from kicking the bag. That comes from actual shin work that comes from all kinds of stuff that just takes time to deaden the nerves and harden everything in there if you don't do that very commonly or you've not done that over the course of a career and you check a kick do it like understand like what is checking a kick do the best kinds of check kicks is they tell you not to just raise your leg straight up they want you to raise it at an angle and then up so that their shin catches your bone at the most painful point for them. It's a pain deterrent. It could also be other forms of deterrent, but it's in many cases, a pain deterrent by having bone on bone
Starting point is 01:11:35 connection to stop them from doing it. That's a two way street. Like unless you really worked on your shins, it's very, very painful to do that. You can, and you should, but it's not shins it's very very painful to do that you can and you should but it's not like it's like oh i'll just raise my like oh i raised my leg in the air therefore he has to stop no it's a physical pain deterrent and it's hard to do it's hard to do you think william knight just like hit his limit of like and he was just like f this i'm surviving yeah yeah i think something's probably wrong with him in this not not in a not in the greater sense, but from a competitive standpoint. I just don't think you can walk in the cage and turn in a performance like that and then not ask questions about what's going on at home. Do you think Volkanovsky should have kicked at Zuck right in the shin
Starting point is 01:12:20 in the beginning of their video game sparring sequence just to show him where he is right now in terms of being a real fighter? I think you should not deal with him at all. But, you know, that's just me. All right, at z.firm.esp. I said, like, is this a place in Spain? What is this?
Starting point is 01:12:40 All right, with Shavkat Rachmanov fighting in two weeks against a legit contender like Jeff Neal, do you find it inevitable that he will eventually match up against Hamzat in the future, possibly even for the belt? If so, who would you favor? BC, is it inevitable, and if so, who wins? I don't feel it's inevitable anymore, because doesn't it feel like Hamzat's going to be a middleweight fighter moving forward? It feels like that.
Starting point is 01:13:01 All the talk about him and Whitaker, it feels like they're not going the route of forcing him to take a welterweight fight to prove that he can still make the weight which would have probably been Colby on pay-per-view would have been fun and then waiting for the winner of the trilogy between Usman and Edwards we're not going in that direction it seems so will Shavkat Shavkat if he wins Luke he's gonna go he's gonna go right to the front and he's gonna be fighting for a title no at right now I don't see them fighting each other but if they did if they fought tomorrow at 170 Luke who's the favorite I don't know I feel like here's the thing Hamzat is like the guy who has the physical tools to win just about any 170 contest yeah but I feel like his aggressive style will make him make mistakes.
Starting point is 01:13:46 And over the course of a five-round fight against Rachmaninov, it seems like a real bad idea. Right now, when we talk about, I mean, this originated, you know, we used to do hashtag holy hammer, Luke. I used to have my cupboard behind me. You know, some of that was to play up these amazing fighters coming out of Eastern Europe, Russia, Dagestan, the surrounding areas, they're just taking over the sport. But part of that, too, was about, you know some of that was to play up these amazing fighters coming out of eastern europe russia dagestan these surrounding areas they're just taking over the sport but part of that too was about you know we're both super fans along with being journalists and sometimes fighters
Starting point is 01:14:11 come on our radar and they they grab us luke you're a shavkat rakmanov guy is he number one is he the number one horse in your stable at the moment of like favorite fighters that are coming on and you and you you're willing to you know invest money in their stock that that like is that your guy at the moment yeah that's my guys i have extremely high and i have for almost since his first fight i've been like oh okay this is a different level in every way um so yeah probably he's probably my number one yeah we met his manager that time at the world mma awards look real nice guy he said he's a big number one we met his manager that time at the World MMA Awards Luke real nice guy
Starting point is 01:14:46 he's a big MK fan very nice guy yes very nice guy alright from at mporter440 BC with power slap rating struggling I've not paid attention I guess but I'm not surprised to hear that what are the odds Luke could get a tweet to show up on that broadcast
Starting point is 01:15:04 that is BC they don't love my tweets over at the UFC I guess to show up on that broadcast. That is BC. They don't love my tweets over at the UFC, I guess. No, imagine if you and Anthony Smith just started having back and forth discourse about who you think is going to win the slap pay-per-view coming up. I think you can make it on the screen, Luke. I think you could. Yeah. Our old boss, who knows the UFC brass very well,
Starting point is 01:15:26 just looked at me one time during the first meeting I ever had with him he's like they don't like you very much i was like yeah what do you want me to do sorry yeah all right uh from at nick so loud can we get an episode where you both train bjj i'm 43. Will we fucking stop? Or any martial art together? Boxing is also an option. BC, I'm not boxing you. Look, here's the deal. As long as Showtime is consistently willing to fund our documentaries,
Starting point is 01:15:54 and I know when we did the last one, episode seven, it was 42 minutes long. We thought that might be the end of it, so let's go out with a bang. Somehow, Luke, we got approved again for Doc 8 of of our you know england trip and wherever else we acquire film for but sometimes what makes those docs great are the things that were on the road and we do imagine if you and i were on the road let's say
Starting point is 01:16:15 we went down to like we got a home office for cbs sports and ftl down there in south florida imagine if we did that and we went over to like kill cliff or someone like that and we had a a friend in the business there imagine like a rashad or somebody and you and we went over to Kill Cliff or someone like that and we had a friend in the business there. Imagine a Rashad or somebody, and you and I were able to put the stuff on like Zuck did and just kind of trade calf strikes. Probably nothing a double leg couldn't figure out if I got in there with you, Luke.
Starting point is 01:16:38 How's your takedown defense? My takedown defense is actually one of my better parts of my game. All right, I'd have to surprise you with some spinning shit then but i'd be willing to like fool around there with the doc cams look are you saying that's not something you're doing that's not something i'm doing no i'm not interested in that whatsoever now now is that rooted in the potential for embarrassment and mocking or is it more rooted in like look i'm 40 i'm old i'm 43 i'm old and you know i don't want bc effing around and hit me with some like jumping knee yeah i mean definitely it's definitely both right definitely i know that like physically i just cannot move at all like i once did there's
Starting point is 01:17:16 that's part of it the other part of it is just like i don't know man i've got it's weird i almost have like a get groceries delivered across the g GTA from Real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. I almost have like a resentful attitude, but that's not, it's weird. I don't have anything to resent, but like the problem was, man,
Starting point is 01:17:47 I didn't finish my training the right way and I didn't realize it at the time. Um, I left super banged up and just broken and it's taken like, I've had to do physical therapy for stuff like for years and it just left a really sour taste in my mouth at the end. Um, unfortunately it was, and I want to be clear,
Starting point is 01:18:06 I don't view that as the sum total of my experience. The sum total is actually quite positive. But at the end, dude, I was just frustrated and beat up and burned out. And I walked away, and I just haven't looked back. And I just don't have it. My wife started training again. Did I tell you that? No.
Starting point is 01:18:25 My wife actually started. Yeah, she actually resumed training jujitsu. She's back now. Good for her. Yeah, good for her. Do you think she would ever roll with Roxy Mataferi again? She probably would. She didn't leave nearly as bitter and angry as I left.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I'm glad you know your limits at least, because if we got into like a fun little documentary camera sparring match, there's without question, I'm going for the heart punch on you. And if I killed you, Luke, and took your audience in that way in my God, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:56 I'd be a lot of, a lot of guilt to deal with moving forward. You know what I mean? I mean, me and how long he would probably have a really successful show. If you took, if you took the the viewers by killing me i feel like by like you know feudal system japanese rules that's kind of fair kind of okay
Starting point is 01:19:11 yeah under pride scoring i would win luke there's no question about that you know the damage yeah but i don't want to be responsible for that luke because you know what i mean then i'd have to raise your family too and i got my own you know and i'm not into that i'm not into like and listen you're never home so i mean who's watching them really yeah yeah yeah that's true yeah but you know just know uh tuki that t.o gringo has your back no matter what even if i accidentally you know yeah yeah all right bc last but not least at jack underscore dg underscore which i mean just the worst fucking name ever all right luke i've been dying to know how many vapes you have consumed since getting back from london bc would it surprise you to know that the one i took back
Starting point is 01:19:48 from london i threw in the trash i no longer have it so vape sticks since the london trip my over under is five now each one holds like thousands of puffs so like what do you mean okay so how long does one last if you were going to regularly puff it for me yeah about a month oh shite i see i don't vape because i'm more of a well-adjusted citizen apparently than you but uh i will say though that uh okay so you you could have you could have still been on the same puffer from London. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I threw it away. No, I didn't mean throw it away like it was done.
Starting point is 01:20:31 I meant throw it away like I was done. Oh, that's great. Okay, because I will say that your comment that, you know, vapers are closers, there's a lot of chutzpah in that. Chutzpah, Luke, I like that. I like that idea. And I do think you're you're you're you know more nice to be around when you're vaping but i i want to see you last long so if you know
Starting point is 01:20:50 uh i'm not saying i won't vape again i'm just not vaping right now you know okay all right what if what if somebody put a firearm to your head and said what city is the next mk live show in oh new york new york possibility vegas possibility vegas dublin possibility florida's possible but i just don't trust floridians to show up no they don't care about us in florida at all no we can't we can't do that we gotta go where our bosses there are some people that said hey if you bring that to like toronto or montreal you guys would be good yeah i've been have you ever have you been i know you've been to canada have you been to toronto i only went for a fish concert in 2000 not when i was on tour with them luke and it was they have that amphitheater right on the water there it was it was a great time i couldn't listen to five seconds of fish, much less an entire album,
Starting point is 01:21:45 much less going to another country to go watch them. That sounds like apps. And I'm doing a bit like that would be hell on earth for me. I saw like six shows in a week and a half. It was a great run back then. Luke, dude, how many brain cells did you fry on that week?
Starting point is 01:22:01 Wow. Whippets and Twinkies for everyone. I can't, I can't comment on on you know that was the year 2000 luke right you know aaron blanchfield was probably just an infant and i you know my moral compass was out the window back then so yeah yeah all right that's it for us on the top five time for bc's pieces let's do it yeah let's do that thing uh what i did at yesterday was i scoured the globe luke for the the good the bad the ugly the in between and all that combat sports and beyond this is a weekly segment in which i take a giant dump and ask if you've seen it luke let's do that yeah all right
Starting point is 01:22:33 yeah you see can you do a joke or a punch line without asking all right afterwards are you saying that that's that's a a bc trope on the level of... Yes, here's BC. I'm not doing a bit. Here's you, ready? Let me do an invitation. I'll be like, oh, BC, I studied abroad my junior year. I did not, but let's just say I did. I studied abroad my junior year.
Starting point is 01:22:53 He'll be like, oh, I bet you did study here. You know what I'm saying? What's the word? All right, I bet you did study here, all right. Let's get it together here, all right. I married her, yeah. Not doing a bit here. If I could be candid with you.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Yeah. Yeah. Are you doing, are you doing an LT bit now? I was, I just haven't worked on it. I got to start working. Hey,
Starting point is 01:23:14 true or false. You know, you yell at the staff and cry. Sorry. Go ahead. You know, Dean Thomas is amazing. Did you see his Herb Dean video?
Starting point is 01:23:22 Did you see his Kamaru Usman one? You know, he's amazing at Stephen A. Smith. Did you tell me that he was working on you? He told me he was workshopping a bit on me. Yeah. Love it. I don't know if that will ever see the light of day or when it will or what, but he did tell me that, yes. You know what I would like to see the light of day? People like Dean Thomas, Eric Nixick, guys that are great at what they do. Dan Hardy, great at what they do. We love them.
Starting point is 01:23:49 They seem to like us. I'd like to see them in the MK mix a little more often, alright? I agree with that. Alright, let's look at some shit. UFC fight night in Vegas. Luke, how about Aaron Blanchfield? We talked about how big this win was. Did you see the showing of emotion after that stoppage? I love it. It meant a i love a lot to her bro meant a lot to her you can tell this was not you know what
Starting point is 01:24:12 she didn't show it she didn't show it but she was feeling the pressure she was feeling the pressure big time i mean look a lot of people were picking against her i did too luke i'm sure she had to deal with all those inner demons of doubt. But you saw, I mean, she's crying afterwards. She threw the mouthpiece. This was not, I expected against Molly McCann, right? This was, I had to go in there and earn that shit. And boy, did she.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Shout out over there. Let's keep it going, Luke. Denver Nuggets guard Jamal Murray taking in the show there at the Apex and rocking a Izzy Adesanya t-shirt. Your thoughts? That's awesome. I didn't know he would. I didn't miss that part. I missed the show there at the Apex and rocking a Izzy Adesanya t-shirt. Your thoughts? That's awesome. I didn't know he would. I didn't miss that part.
Starting point is 01:24:48 I missed the show live, so I just caught the fights after. But that's cool, man. That's super cool. Yeah, I'm into when these athletes are cool dudes and they're showing up. I like that, Luke. You know that dude on the Raiders, Max Crosby with two X's? That guy's at like every UFC show. Also, BC, who's a big time boxing fan like a real deal
Starting point is 01:25:06 boxing fan Dame Lillard oh yeah Dame time yeah big time big time in that regard all right let's go to Felipe Lins he only needed 49 seconds to improve your standing in the okay bet race also sending former title challenger OSP to the dark depths look at this the problem wasn't that he lost or that felipe linds is a bad fighter he's a good fighter it's just he just looked like it didn't take much for him you know what i mean this ko looked like verdum versus uh stipe so a little bit but the problem was if you recall that fight and one of the reasons why like that's one of the all-time like what dude verdum is capable of like extraordinary brilliance and then at times like complete dumbassery and you're like dude what are you doing you're so much better than this yeah he actually it's one thing to like
Starting point is 01:25:53 cage cut right where i'm gonna follow you and not let you go but he didn't do that stipe was along the fence line right like this verdum just met him and then followed him along the fence line just chased into him so peep this up i almost called him pepe steve just popped him on the way in and he fell face first remember that uncle uncle pepe and shout out yeah hey submission of the night from the ufc did you see maria maria bueno silva knee barring lenaberg. Did you say Pepe's in Brazil? He's in Brazil, yeah. Oh, God. This guy just populating the earth one country at a time. Did I tell you he taught himself Portuguese?
Starting point is 01:26:33 He's a badass. Luke, can you comment on this Maria Bueno Silva knee-bar? Yeah, this was great. She went for it underneath, and you could tell that Landsberg either doesn't know much about leg locking, which is probably not true. She probably knows a fair amount, but simply wasn't in the right frame of mind. She didn't, you have to cross your legs at a certain point underneath before that turn
Starting point is 01:26:50 really happens. And she didn't. And then after that, she wasn't really hand fighting either. There was just a lot. You can see, she's just not really doing very effectively. And it's a nice knee bar from,
Starting point is 01:27:00 from Bueno Silva for sure. All right. Knuckle mania three took us to Albuquerque. Here's Greg Hardy, the early knockdown against Josh Watson. This is of course, from uh bueno silva for sure all right knucklemania 3 took us to albuquerque here's greg hardy the early knockdown against josh watson this is of course hardy's bkfc debut good nice left hook yeah this you know what this this white dude who's got tattoos in all the right places he uh he's got some good timing he's got some good timing this guy and here's the knockout finish luke shortly after that in round one damn Damn. I just don't understand what Greg Hardy was thinking in this one.
Starting point is 01:27:27 He just jumped in and paid for it. Yeah, there's the replay, of course, of the first knockdown, and then you can see the finish. What are your thoughts on Josh Watson's celebration with the double fist out, Luke? Is that a reference to something in – what is this? Oh, like he froze up like Yeah, yeah, maybe that's it.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Is he making fun of him? Look at this left hook. This is the ringside replay. Yeah, show that one again. Show that ringside replay again one more time. Look at how Greg Hardy just leaps into range without much of a setup. So the guy just rolls under it and then
Starting point is 01:28:03 actually the right hand was going to land if the left hand didn't anyway it's a nice punch this dude can box a little bit man it's all right josh watson getting a big win there hey let's go over to lorenzo hunt luke this was wild so this is the first round light heavyweight title unification you're gonna see hunt go down but watch what happens at the the Marine Richmond. Richmond. He looks hurt here, but he took his time. Took his time. He looks a little wobbled.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Look, he's a badass. He's on the ropes. That's a no-no, but he made it. Lorenzo Hunt's a bad dude, man. Oh. Good night. Yep. Man. We found a winner. No need to call. that's it that's it that is brilliant stuff there in the main event shout out to the bare knuckle folks one more from bkfc on the
Starting point is 01:28:54 undercard here's carissa sagala realigning her own injured ankle after getting knocked down by jamie hinshaw luke this is what we call gnarly AF. Okay. As a guy who has had multiple, multiple right ankle issues. Oh, dude, dude.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Oh my God, dude. Oh my God. I hadn't seen that. She would lose by first round stoppage because of the leg injury, but her willingness to put that back together and just keep fighting like that. Are you shitting me?
Starting point is 01:29:29 What the fuck? This lady is a what? I would give her a hashtag. Holy hammer. If we still put that thing out in the ethos, Luke, dude, this lady definitely did.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Well, we'll have, she hasn't already. We'll do childbirth without, uh, without pain meds. Yeah, probably, probably that is dude that is
Starting point is 01:29:47 fucking insane that she did that let's go to thursday's weigh-in here's diego sanchez and austin trout trash talking after the face-off here let's check this out And Diego Sanchez! Oh, yeah, he is. He ain't gonna save you, though. He ain't gonna save you, old boy. He ain't gonna save you, old boy. You got a hammer, homie. You getting the sledge, that's it.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Yeah, I'm swinging it at that. I'll do it right now, motherfucker. I'll do it right now, motherfucker. I'll do it right now, motherfucker. You ain't ready for the dog fight. You ain't never been in a dog fight. You ain't never been in a dog fight. You ain't never been in a dog fight. Bushy gonna kill you, bro. They gonna count.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Luke, I'm not sure if you heard that all. I mean, here's the thing. Austin Trout fought Canelo. I mean. Yeah, well, they served the same God from what I've researched, but he said, you know, your God's not going to save you. You'll get the sledge, meaning the sledgehammer. And, yeah, it turns out it didn't go that way luke here's the footage of the stoppage as austin trout bloodied e carnal
Starting point is 01:31:12 drop diego sanchez right there ref had finally seen enough in round four but nice knock down here bro they're throwing chocolates on the hot hot hodasos uh could you translate that for me luke i don't know i've been following up on like albuquerque slang it's the weirdest fucking slang on earth sometimes they go to savan elavan to go get to go get uh to go get drinks or whatever savan elavan it's fucking weird man and they all say e i mean new mexico is a weird state luke i've never been there have you yes dude dude my family my dad's family left oklahoma because why would you stay in oklahoma but they moved to new mexico they all live there i've got like ton dude they live in roswell my family lives in roswell new mexico all right hey if we have any
Starting point is 01:32:02 uh new mexican donks uh reach out to us let us know i mean i've heard we've got people in the falkland islands luke we've got people up there and none of it let's see if we got anybody you never had like a serious question you've never had like the new mexico green chilies i've never had them okay so they all talk about them they're like they're the the greatest thing since sliced bread they're right it's the greatest thing since sliced bread it's amazing and they put it on all their food and it's really really good they just talk like weirdos eee carnal okay okay all right hey john jones had a busy couple days luke here is him inside the building at bkf Albuquerque. Sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:48 He's back. I don't care. All right. I definitely don't care. Yeah. All right. Okay. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:32:57 We'll leave it at that, Luke. Okay. John also is on a bit of a redemption tour ahead of his March 4th return. He sent a series of tweets at Daniel Cormier, including this one, basically saying all of it is behind us. If you want to interview me after my win against Cyril Ghosn, you can, Luke. DC, you are more than welcome to commentate at my fight. I think you are really good at what you do.
Starting point is 01:33:21 I trust you would be non-biased. All the best, brother. That got 5 million views, that tweet. really good at what you do i trust you would be non-biased all the best brother that got five million views that that tweet what would happen if he sent the same tweet to you luke to put the 214 debacle finally behind you guys i don't have any interest in talking to him whatsoever like it doesn't mean it's sort of being weird it's like it's like a you know a person you don't care about in that way wants to talk you'd be like okay great like what is that supposed what is that supposed to mean it doesn't mean anything so my dream is that you and i go to jersey city and and we we interview
Starting point is 01:33:56 you wanna and and johnny bones back to back and we put all of our grievances behind us luke i don't have i don't live every day worrying about it like like some of y'all seem to be going about your days worrying about it yeah i just live my day normally um you know i'm not going to take anything from him he's a tremendous fighter he might become number one pound for pound in a couple of weeks to be quite honest with him like that's very much on the table but like as a person or as a figure of intrigue, it doesn't exist to me. Blood is on the table. Yeah, I'm with you, Luke. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Hey, remember we met with those fine blokes on MMA on point over there? Yes. There was Jay. There was... Who was that dude behind the scenes that runs the show? You remember that guy? You see, I don't even know the names of people who work on our show. All right. Well, the other guy was Alex, who they call Balian.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Big fan of that guy, Luke. Remember he told us that he trains with Brad Pickett over there at that MMA gym? I think that's right, yeah. Here's a video of good old Bhagavan Balian here working the pads. Your thoughts? Bhagavan. Bhagavan Gita. So that's Alex on the right with the black gloves, Luke.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Good old Balian. What do you think about his form? Can you rate that form? Looks like he trains. All right. Wouldn't call him, you know, not like Floyd Mayweather on the bag or anything. What do you think about an MMA media championship fight, him against Oscar Willis? Are they in the same weight class?
Starting point is 01:35:23 I don't think they are. I think he's bigger than Oscar. Okay. But, you know oscar willis is crazy that's the difference dude all of these questions are the wrong ones you have rj clifford is i think a black belt jujitsu and fought in strike force and is a serious xm radio host he would fuck up everybody okay like not even a contest so would ufc broadcastercaster Daniel Cormier, Luke, but maybe not after putting on that referee shirt. Are we fat-shaming DC again? I didn't go there.
Starting point is 01:35:50 I didn't go there. You opened the door again. You know, DC is actually my favorite interview. I love that guy. I don't want a BC-DC rivalry. I love Daniel Cormier, okay? But you also love making fun of his weight gain. I mean, it's your favorite thing to do.
Starting point is 01:36:02 I actually, last night on YouTube, Luke, I was sitting in the eighth row. I watched his NCAA championship bout against Kale. Kale, what's his name? Sanderson. Kale's tough to beat. Dude, Cormier was thin back then, man. Yeah, he was a smaller dude for sure. That was like 185, I think, right?
Starting point is 01:36:17 184? Or 197. I'd have to double check. But yes, he was certainly, obviously, much smaller. All right. Hey, regional MMA KO of the week time. Luke, let's go over to double check. But yes, he was certainly obviously much smaller. All right. Hey, regional MMA KO of the week time. Luke, let's go over to LFA.
Starting point is 01:36:30 What do you think about this? Jesus. Yep. I think he slept him. I think that's what happened. Dude, he knocked his mouthpiece into another dimension. Yikes. All right. That is just fantastic.
Starting point is 01:36:43 I'm told this is. Wait, what? We're told this is a wait. What? We're told something here, Luke. From Luke and Ryan battle in his first amateur fight from a few years ago, getting KO'd. Is that really him? Yeah, I guess. All right.
Starting point is 01:36:57 All right. I thought it was recent. Apparently, I'm way off. Shout out. Shout out to our team right there. Let's go over to muay thai grand prix you a big fan of that sure okay oh this is an old one too yeah we talked about this one already this is you you're you're oh you're recycling a little bit are you sure i'm recycling look they look a
Starting point is 01:37:17 lot of these dude we talked about how vicious this was one of the best ko's i've ever seen in kickboxing you know to right hand to right hand uppercut to left hand i mean just we got a lot of great people that send in these videos on the regular luke but the problem is a lot of them send duplicates and i'm like nope already used that on like episode eight all right you got to remember um but uh i'm sorry about that here i don't think we've shown this one before this is at wkg here's zia ling yang and this is what they call a late stoppage luke good lord so this is i guess the uh wherever this took is the equivalent of you ever seen phil barone dave minet yep i've also seen um ray
Starting point is 01:37:59 mercer versus tommy morrison and this looks a lot like that yeah yeah dude if you've never seen Phil Barone Dave Mane Mane is spelled M-E-N-N-E Phil Barone is literally punching him straight down the middle Mane is out the instant the referee intervenes Mane falls right so what it tells you is literally Barone was punching him so hard that he was levitating him. He was keeping him up by pressing him back into the fence with the punches. It was one of the scariest knockouts I've ever seen. Yeah, that's gnarly right there. Damn. All right, Lucas, time to examine future Hall of Famer Frankie Edgar's stand-up game. You ready?
Starting point is 01:38:41 Yeah. Seven years ago, this is arguably the best moment in edgar's stand-up history remember this win over chad mendes brilliant left hook that polished him off nice shot just time off this right quick powerful amazing yeah he got himself back in there to face aldo again right or am i wrong on that he's had a lot of time yeah he's a legend well how about this stand-up game luke let's get your You know, I have more time in the octagon than anybody in the history of the UFC. I've been punched, kicked, and beaten down more than Will Smith's been beaten by Jada. Listen, if punches were dicks, my face would look like Paige Van Zandt's inbox.
Starting point is 01:39:31 Alright, the first one was lame. The second one was alright. I can hear myself. That was... The second one got me. That was surprising. Isn't Frankie's grandma and Mikey's grandma like best friends or something? Some like that yeah yeah we love frankie but um i mean maybe he can get a podcast on the uh on the thick network look you never know but let's go to the creed three are we doing skits and bits today i'm noticing a lot of skits and bits from 1bc from
Starting point is 01:39:57 c because eric nixick sent a picture of his hog and said i thought that was funny luke okay all right it was it was a continuation of our uk. I don't really know where you're going. Hey, Creed 3 coming out in March. Can't wait. You know who else can't wait for it? Pro boxers Lawrence Okoli and Richard Reakpour, who threw down outside the theater at the premiere. Once again, young men of the world,
Starting point is 01:40:18 it is not hard to not get in a fistfight at a random establishment out in town. It's actually relatively easily yeah all you have to do is not fist fight sir this is a baskin robbins here at the movie theater can you please uh yeah also i think this is one of those high-end movie theaters if i'm not mistaken they just opened in tyson's corner virginia yeah it's an actual premiere i believe this is in the uk right yeah fellas not hard to not do this don't all right hey great moments in wedding history all right let's watch a few of these me seeing everyone's
Starting point is 01:40:54 valve i mean what would you do if the uh officiant just just just lost her breakfast right right on your shoes there. This is why BC, did you have like a big wedding? Did you have a big wedding? Uh, the, the venue only host a whole held two 50.
Starting point is 01:41:12 So it was really hard cutting that. Or maybe it was one. Did you have a huge wedding? That's a big wet dude. We had 50. No, I'm sorry. It was one 50.
Starting point is 01:41:19 It was one 50. So it was really hard keeping the dive. A big family. Look, it was really hard keeping that down. So, so we had, Oh dude, my wife doesn't have a huge family i mean my wife's one of the biggest families
Starting point is 01:41:27 in the fucking world but we uh what we did was we had to pay for it ourselves and dude you see as you well know is not cheap so we had to keep it limited dude have a limited wedding because what these people want to do is they want to have a fairy tale day right where it's the most extravagant i'm going to be a queen for a day and if anything goes wrong it ruins the day well don't have a day where you just have everything has to be perfect and you're asking your amateur friends or whatever to marry you yeah it's going to go south bro just keep it light keep it chill no you're not wrong on that by the way you you realize the day after your own wedding and the craziness that that that was actually not for you it It was for everyone else,
Starting point is 01:42:05 you know, and that's cool. You invited them to come enjoy your moment, but it's, it's more about everybody else than you. Yeah. Um, Luke,
Starting point is 01:42:12 let's go to the, you ever have a drunk uncle at a reception, like grab the microphone and start telling inappropriate stories about the grooms, like sex past. And you're like, dude, this is not the stage for it.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Right. Uh, I've seen it on beer commercials and movies nowhere yeah this happened at this wedding check it out check it out luke oh oh who's that the dj uh the guy on the right he just you know he just ran up start oh boy now slap fighting is great yep Yeah, there it is. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Picks him up by his dumb ass shirt too. Yeah, that's awesome. Well, the other guy struck first, man. And by the way, based on the language here, God knows where that was. You know, someplace with a Cyrillic alphabet, I guess. One more time. One more time. Play this bitch.
Starting point is 01:43:02 He wants it again. Yeah. See, he kind of delicately touches him. He's like, ah, see, I showed you a guy who can barely move and who probably has to have a. Oh, yeah. Well, he didn't get dressed up for the wedding either, Luke. So maybe this is part of it. Maybe this is part of the don't disrespect my family. You know, by the way, that kid in the background is going to grow up in the most toxic environment ever.
Starting point is 01:43:24 But OK, that's all right. Hey, that kid in the background is just going to grow up in the most toxic environment ever, but okay. All right. Hey, tell me if we've played this before. I don't know if we have, but it got me fired up. Watch how hyped up this ball coach is after this score. I think we have, but I like this. Yeah. Chubb Rock was like, yeah, let's celebrate here.
Starting point is 01:43:44 You may have hurt your player. I think he's he's out all right let's keep it going here now luke a lot of fighters like to cross over into the rap game we've seen deontay wilder have a music video recently remember people forget that floyd back in the day had his own had his own record company he was putting out tracks well have you ever been introduced to the quote claressa shields the multi-division undisputed champion? Oh, I saw this one. She's got a new single out. Let's hear a part of it.
Starting point is 01:44:09 I'm all over the world, whooping ass. You think I'm fighting a regular? You smoking crack. I got a family to feed. Get the bag. If you ain't talking about money, get the bug bag. Broke shit make my ass itch. Pootie tang.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Broke shit make my ass itch pootie tang yeah i could get into that that track luke you're into it no no i like clarissa shields but somebody should have warned her about that one broke shit make my ass itch is the idea there where like if you take a gross dump and it broke oh god come on. And then you don't clean, it makes your butt itch. You know how dogs never wipe their rear end, but it just stays clean? I don't really know what's happening here. Did she say gross shit or quote shit? I didn't hear it.
Starting point is 01:44:57 It went by quick. All I heard was broke shit make my ass itch. You see, there's lots of things that make my ass shit. People being poor is not one of them okay all right luke uh hey jalen rose you know that nba legend right broadcaster used to be married to molly karen yeah uh he's got a take on haircuts that you might agree with apparently the minimum you're supposed to be spending for a quality barber is 100 so many guys and people out there think y'all are going to show up
Starting point is 01:45:25 and get a fly haircut for $35. Finally, somebody gets you. You're speaking his language. First of all, you guys have just absolutely haircut shamed me, so I've had to go to a cheaper place now. I spent about $50. I spent about half um so look for 26 i get the the wash the massage the yeah your haircut looks like a barber student just experimented
Starting point is 01:45:54 on you i mean you're not a shiny example of a great haircut well maybe not right now but yeah yeah all right i think in general i will say i will say like obviously if you live in Topeka, Kansas, do they even have anyone there who cuts hair for $100? It probably doesn't even exist. It's not relevant. But I will say this, BC, I will say this. If you had Jalen Rose's money and you were on TV, you'd be getting $100 haircuts, bitch.
Starting point is 01:46:22 Dude, my dream, because haircuts are magical moments in the mundane life of an adult male. Meaning, Luke, I'm not a notorious or vain enough to be staring in the mirror, but if you're walking by a mirror and you've just gotten a haircut recently, you perk up, Luke. You start to feel young again. You know what I mean? It changes a man. I'm the type of guy that would be, I'd spare no expense if I made good money
Starting point is 01:46:49 and had a barber on part of my traveling team. Okay? Yeah. If I had Jalen Rose money, I'd have a barber as a traveling team. I'd have my tattoo guy as a traveling team as well. Wow. How about we'll get Maniche's guy, Neon Dion, from Jersey City. That would be my guy on the road. All right? live with me you know what i'm saying oh mikey mikey would hire a
Starting point is 01:47:10 joint roller he says on the travel team i bet you would yeah i bet you would mikey mikey's like could you get cte from thc i'm willing to find out you know he's like i'm trying i'm trying i'm really i'm putting in i'm putting in a yeoman's effort there. Luke, it's time to play everyone's favorite game. Rate that tat. Are you ready, Luke? Let's do it. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Thug Rose on the arm time. You know, this is arguably my favorite fighter, but is this your favorite tattoo, Luke? So the guy who does this, I forget his name. He does all tattoos in this style where he'll get a famous figure and then tattoo like graffiti on their face. Yeah. That's an excellent tattoo. That's a, I don't, I don't like it at all.
Starting point is 01:47:52 To be fair, Luke, it's kind of. Okay. Okay. So from the artistic perspective, you don't like it, correct? Well, I don't know if I get it. What is that black stuff coming out of her mouth? It looks like that Peewee's. Remember that Peewee's adventure movie when he made the fat guy chew the trick gum?
Starting point is 01:48:07 Yeah. I mean, part of it is it's going to dry up and lighten up a little bit later. The other thing I'd say is it just looks like it's partly like, you know, purple from bruising, from the actual bruising on this person's arm. Yeah. So, you know, you can't it always new tattoos always look a little pink and purpleish you have to wait a little bit all right can we go to the dan hooker one now this was a late ad thank you gaff can you insert
Starting point is 01:48:34 dan hooker's new tattoo i want to get your thoughts we got two pictures here we're going to zoom in this time here we go so that's also brand new and it's a little purple now would you would you shame him if you found out he was administered an iv in order to get this no because i wouldn't care uh it looks to me like it's unfinished it looks to me like this is the beginning of a piece i would say it's good uh i wouldn't call it great but it's good. I wouldn't call it great, but it's good. Okay. But it's unfinished. So let's see what it looks like when it's done.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Is it better or worse than Alexander Volkov? I don't have that front of mind. I think his is better, but I'm not sure. Okay. Hey, let's go to Neiman Gracie, the former Bellator Welterweight title challenger. Still a contender in that game, Luke. He got his left forearm done.
Starting point is 01:49:28 I want to get your thoughts. Okay. Oh, that's an intricate piece. Getting a lion, that's what every athlete does. You know, this is how the sausage gets made here with the tracing, right? Is that how it's always done Luke that purple some guys some guys will freehand it completely most
Starting point is 01:49:50 people use a stencil that's what you're talking about there yeah you know that kind of looks like our camera guy Tristan's arm to a certain degree although he's got more rabid animals on there like yeah I don't love it I don't love it it's a little it's artistically it's not my favorite and um from an application standpoint like so look at the lioness like there's no the edging is the white spacing between
Starting point is 01:50:22 her head and the rest of the lion which i'm not really a fan of um from an artistic style okay doesn't create enough separation between characters so so are you putting this in the he boss bin or what no it's better than that it's better than that um but it's not it's not my favorite also athletes stop getting clouds heavens lions or pocket watches on you because every other athlete is doing that that's true hey bikini sizzin is almost upon us so check out this back tat luke i want to get your thoughts here on this beautiful lady well first of all she's a 10 out of 10 let's just let's just start the conversation where it starts i mean you're a big fan of tatted ass cheeks so that's why we presented this
Starting point is 01:51:05 yeah this is this is this is up your boys alley right here yeah but that's just because of the of the canvas not the work you know I mean I wouldn't get that tattoo you're asking me is it a good tattoo it's well applied I don't know if artistically that's again though like people
Starting point is 01:51:21 get these for themselves they're not getting it for you what you're really asking is it applied well and is it artistically coherent i disagree if you're getting a tat this is my personal opinion you know my opinion on tattoos largely sucks because i'm not in the game but if i feel like if you're getting a tattoo any place you can't see it on your back on your ass cheeks whatever you're not getting it for you you're getting it for others to either be odd or to to be impressed with there can be there can be all kinds of reasons where you would want to get your back tattooed like um or i can't see i have um i have no that's not quite true for me
Starting point is 01:51:58 but um to get the piece done correctly there's all kinds of symbolism and meaning historically within the tattoo traditions themselves. That's especially true of Japanese, but not alone. Polynesian tattoos are like this as well, or Pacific Islanders, I should say. So that's not exactly true that it's strictly for you. This one, sorry, if you can't see it, it's for someone else. But I mean, it's a weird thing to argue. You see, I carry these wherever I go, whether I have short sleeve or long sleeve.
Starting point is 01:52:26 It can't be true that when I walk into a Walmart, whether these are visible or not to anyone else, it's for these people around me. It's not for them. It's for me. You can like it or you can not like it. That's up to you. I like the way it looks on me, but I didn't get it for that, for you.
Starting point is 01:52:45 You like what it says about you. Yeah. I like what it says on me, not what it says about me. Tattooing has its traditions, but so does weightlifting, Luke. And true legends like Ronnie Coleman have consistently showed us that you can protect your hands and still be a weightlifting legend. Let's induct another person into that. You guys are going to die on this hill, but you're going to die.
Starting point is 01:53:04 It's okay. Well, I'm going to die one day, Luke. But I want to induct somebody else into the weightlifting hall of fame who will have uncalloused hands. His name? Quentin Rampage Jackson, Luke. Okay? I haven't seen this. He's got 25s on each side.
Starting point is 01:53:21 What the fuck is he doing? He's lifting. He's becoming a better person and a better man. And the gloves are helping him get there. So I salute him. Dude, this is not a lot of weight for him to be struggling that much. And these are partial reps, too. I mean, what are you going to try to DC shame him here, Luke?
Starting point is 01:53:36 Dude, this is 50. So that's 100 pounds a side, right? Or how many 25s on each side? I can't. One, two. One, two. One, two. What is he doing? Yeah, he's got three.
Starting point is 01:53:48 So this is 75 a side. Dude, that is nothing. Okay, you tell him that. All right, I'm fine with the gloves. I'm okay with this. All right, I didn't love the fatal fight. Based on the positioning, it looks like it's an incline press. Yeah, this is all kinds of.
Starting point is 01:54:04 All right, hey, let's go to the boxing recap from the weekend luke this was show box from topeka our opening bout junior welterweights this is kurt scooby on the right he would drop john manu of australia four times en route to a tko2 but the cool story here is that scooby was a star high school running back he walked down at fresno state he ended up being a star at d3 azusa pacific big time running back weighed 215 pounds now he's down to 140 and he's an unbeaten boxer this was a hell of a performance run showbox always gets the main card guys to always take a picture after the weigh-ins together or they usually do anyway and they did here.
Starting point is 01:54:46 And BC, I was going to say something. Of all the guys, because they're all just making a fist or whatever, he pops out on that screen because everyone is in good shape, but they're all slender. When you told me he was a high school running back or whatever or previous running back, you can tell. He looks like a million dollars, so to speak, getting off the bus, man. He is jacked. He had a very, bus man he is he is jacked he had a very very rough childhood that he's persevered through he's very impressive in terms of interviewing him
Starting point is 01:55:11 has you know believes that his career is going to influence and and inspire a lot of people but it's early he's still kind of raw but this was a hell of a strong performance here somebody to watch if you can get another opportunity here on showbox in the future let's go to the zone from not in them here's on the undercard dalton smith would only get a warning for this of what he did to billy allington look at this luke dude there's a thing called shoot boxing which is kickboxing with takedowns it's where uh obviously sanchao is pretty similar they do it's kind of the same kind of thing where it's just wrestling with or i should say takedowns. It's where, obviously, San Chow is pretty similar. It's kind of the same kind of thing where it's just wrestling with, or I should say takedowns with striking.
Starting point is 01:55:50 It's a great sport. I can't believe it's not more popular. It's fucking awesome. Yeah, we've seen this before. Remember when Chad Dawson dumped Bernard Hopkins on his shoulder and then they had to call off the fight? That was weird. But, yeah, this was weird too. Hey, let's go to Mauricio Olara on this main event.
Starting point is 01:56:03 We talked about it against Lee Wood down on the scorecards. Here's that left hook from hell. Just a beautiful shot that forced the knockdown at round seven. Come on. Look at this. And see, he gets up and he's kind of like, eh. He is wobbly. This does support the stoppage more when you're watching the video here.
Starting point is 01:56:24 But here comes the towel. Watch out. I mean, Laura was ready to go in there and murder him. Let's be honest, dude. Laura had that thing cocked back and ready to go. Although to your point with the BKFC thing with Mike Richman getting slept, you know, one never knows. One never knows.
Starting point is 01:56:38 One never knows. That's the reality. We just don't know what would have happened, but they definitely have a strong argument for saving him from a terrible terrible ko well laura's now the featherweight champion if you remember he he's from mexico but he made his name upsetting and stopping josh warrington they had an immediate rematch which was a uh i believe a no contest luke from an accidental foul so right after the victory here's what mauricio lara did went over to the ropes where Josh Warrington was and spit right on him.
Starting point is 01:57:07 Your thoughts? Oh, that is so low class. That is so low class. Oh, wow. Love it. Love it. Dude, that's some dirtbag shit. Well, who knows what was said between them.
Starting point is 01:57:22 They definitely have a rivalry. A lot of people would love to see, I guess, a a third fight but kind of technically a rematch in some ways uh also DAZN over the weekend luke we got to shout this out we'd be remiss if we didn't pomona california and in the main event former band and weight world champion luis nary trying to put his career back on track at 122 this was against armenian azad hovenason luke they put on what people are calling a fight of the year contender are we re-watched it dude it was mayhem yeah i saw parts of it too it was nuts i did not expect anything out of this and it over delivered dramatically well they they would just just really throw bombs at each other the whole fight exactly like this let's fast forward to round 11 neri would drop him once more but hovenation would be saved by the bell and they would actually go to
Starting point is 01:58:10 the 12th i'm sorry they'd go to the 11th where the final stoppage would happen here's the end of round 10 though it looked like he was done luke but your boy got up armenians are tough bro they are very very tough people he would survive that yeah yeah nary would get the stoppage in the 12th a big win for luis nary but uh what a war worth everybody's time if you want to check it out and here is promoter oscar de la joya ringside luke fake abs and all just losing his shit during the main event how often is he does he pull his shirt up to show his abs oh yeah i was waiting for it it didn't happen dude every post he puts on social these days is just his abs for no reason i mean just turned 50 luke he's got a beautiful wife he's
Starting point is 01:58:56 showing off a bit you know he's happy yeah i'm glad he's happy i'm glad he's happy do you know he was um 1992 olympic roommate of raul marquez in barcelona you know raul from showbox right barcelona yeah they were they were uh they were they were roommates there on that trip and you know raul said even though he's also 50 luke he'd fight oscar tomorrow if somebody put the money up okay let's get that let's get that fight made okay let's do it let's do it all right a couple more on the way out here. Luke, the Eagles did not win the Super Bowl, but before the game even started, their fans were going nuts.
Starting point is 01:59:31 You into flipping cars? Yeah. I mean, Philly fans are really just absolute degenerates. Let's just be honest about that. I mean, they're just the worst of the worst. Look at these fucking hooligans. All right. There you go.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Where are the parents really is what you got to ask about these about these white folks look at them they're almost high enough the truth is 20 years ago bc i'd be on top of that car i mean that's just the damn right you would what a hypocritical piece of shit i am yeah probably for like the capitals winning like a first round nhl stanley cup series you would have just not even you just wanted to rage against any exactly i wouldn't even need a good reason just fucking do it i remember one time dude we went drunk we went drunkenly rampaging through charlottesville virginia you ever been to charlottesville virginia is that uh what college is there there's a uva uva is there oh uva okay uh i've never been there it's it's just it's spectacular the campus is one of the best it's one of those beautiful campuses in all of higher
Starting point is 02:00:23 education charlottesville's a cool town. It's a good place to party, but it's just a lot of dudes with pop collars and polos. Would you rather live in Charlottesville or Blacksburg? Blacksburg, where Virginia Tech is? Yeah, I'll take Charlottesville 10 times out of 10 over Blacksburg. Is that because of that thing on the side of Frank Beamer's face or no? I don't know how much that takes up time and traffic, but you need to hear
Starting point is 02:00:47 more there. We went rampaging through the night and you know... Did you have lifting gloves on or is that a different kind of rampaging? Yeah, a different kind. Hold on, hold on. And the next morning we woke up in one of our friend's houses and a buddy
Starting point is 02:01:04 of mine had a stack of clothes that were covered in like those thin clear sheets that you would get from the dry cleaners i was like dude where did you get these fucking clothes and he was like yeah i just went through flipping car handles when you passed out up and down the block and i've gotten to this one person's car and i stole all their dry cleaning and so he just had his motherfuckers dry cleaning and so uh you know i don't support that kind of debauchery that you were into like you know knocking dudes out wearing wife beaters you know as a on the sidewalk in dc and you know like you were i wasn't playing the knockout game although i would there have been times i've been tempted uh luke two more to close here uh i've got a liver issue which means i should not be eating
Starting point is 02:01:42 hot dogs or hiding them but my kids know if you get into my car, there's a good chance to be cookies in the area in the middle. You know, that thing that lifts up? You know, I sometimes hide snacks in there. Yeah, yeah. Check out this idea, though, that this person had in the car. This is next level. I should get into this. Little hidden security case.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Why would you put a hot dog in there because i'm not supposed to have it luke okay you know sometimes you just need it right dude some of these places to eat it's the saddest shit i've ever seen all i know is i need one of those headrests now okay you can put deltas in there you can put wieners you don't need the headrest you just need the nitrates true true to that all right finally luke uh what's that saying uh it's like hold on run this ad one more time i'll say run this ad one more time it's like here we go ready are you a sad piece of shit that has to hide food throughout the course of your day because you're lonely and or trying to hide food from your significant other who's told you not to eat this are you a sad piece of shit who lonely eats in his car yeah no one else
Starting point is 02:02:50 is around while you blast the ac and podcasts yeah boy do we have the gear for you i you know i'd like to do work with keith lee you know kevin lee's brother from vegas yeah dude he's killing it dude he's killing it i'm really really like and he's got's got a great message. I'm really happy to see that. But I'd love to sit in the backseat with him and pull hot dogs out of the headrest and raid him, Luke. I'm into that stuff. Finally, Luke, they say you can F around and find out. You can also flip someone off and find out. Check out this American.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. He looks like DJ qualls in the movie the bad guy or the no the what was that guy what was that movie called you know the you know what i'm talking about right this guy this guy looks like he murdered a 14 year old guy kid took all of his clothes but he's secretly dying of cancer look the movie was the new guy with dj qualls you may have remember him in road trip with tom green and then he got his own movie who was like who was like the only role he ever could have played was outrageous nerd yes that guy that guy i think that's him today i think uh unfortunately but uh enjoyed that the
Starting point is 02:04:00 new guy with eliza dushku remember that's. Yeah, this was this was basically representative of my first few trips to the UK. Not the last one. Last one was great. Yeah. First few, though, was that was very representative of my experience with the Brits. Just not not, you know, not the most fun. Would you say would you say unequivocally that the UK gets me? No, they don't get you at all.
Starting point is 02:04:22 I think they do. But I'll say this. They definitely tolerate you i mean and it was all races creeds luke i think people just like me in britain you know no they just tolerate you all right well that's my shit for the week uh that's all i got i gotta pee really bad so just you know land the plane sully all right land it all right uh let's remind him oh the sale we have on london gear right morning combat dot store you can go yeah everything must go everything must go those gta shirts the grand theft auto ones are badass so are the uh union jack ones luke okay get on there get on there showtime.com is
Starting point is 02:04:55 the label that pays you can go to showtime.com get a 30-day free trial if you like it you can keep it if not you can bounce uh morning combat at gmail.com that's going to be the email to reach the show that's a fun thing to do i want to remind folks bc wednesday.com that's going to be the email to reach the show that's a fun thing to do I want to remind folks, BC Wednesday you and I are going to be in studio in studio on Wednesday and I've got an interview with the head of ADCC Mo Jassim
Starting point is 02:05:16 who has an interesting thing to say now that they are going to be with UFC Fight Pass 40 plus events coming your way with ADCC so huge huge implications for their future we talked to him for morning combat so that's going to be headed your way this week as well very interesting I'm into that as well Luke do you know one time I used to do a podcast with Rafe Bartholomew called the uh state of combat and he had to take a whiz so bad that
Starting point is 02:05:42 he peed into a bottle on the air to not disrupt the show if i did that would you kick me out because i thought that was really gross of rafe like that's just gross i mean it's dedication but it's gross you know yeah we don't have to tolerate i mean you know it's good i'm glad he's barely housebroken but that's not the kind of thing we want to be focusing on i mean if i did a whole podcast from the throne and you didn't know about it and you found out afterwards you'd be okay with her if i didn't if i couldn't tell yes like when you're on the road and your wife calls do you ever take the phone call and not let her know that you're sitting down no i always tell her okay also my wife only ever facetimes so i have to yeah you are a big public facetimer you know you are well i i try to keep it quick though because, because I know it's annoying.
Starting point is 02:06:25 That's the difference. I don't go, oh, no, I'm just going to have a conversation. Well, it's sweet, Luke, especially when Tukes gets on there, and she's like, Poppy, Poppy. And, you know, she's the best. She's the best. Yep, I have to go watch her now because she doesn't have school, and there's no daycare.
Starting point is 02:06:39 So I got to go watch her. Happy President's Day to Tukes, all right? Happy President's Day. All right, so be on the lookout for Wednesday's live show. Interviews coming your way and a whole lot more at youtube.com slash morning combat. That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas for Malka Showtime, CBS Sports and everyone else involved. Thank you so much for watching.
Starting point is 02:06:56 We'll see you in a couple of days. And until then, all of your gains be loyal.

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