MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - UFC White House Plans & Dream Card | Fiziev Out of UFC Rio | Adesanya’s Future Fights

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Join Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell live in studio on a Morning Kombat Monday to go over all the latest news in combat sports. First up, the UFC White House plans continue to take shape. LT and BC dis...cuss the latest headlines surrounding the event and have some fun drafting their dream matchups for the White House card. Also, Rafael Fiziev's injury changes things up for the Oct. 11 UFC Fight Night main event in Rio. Who would be the right opponent against Charles Oliveirato save this main event? And what's left in Israel Adesanya's career before he's ready to hang it up? What future fights does he have left?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:28 studios in the old Manhattan, BC, the Connecticut Suburbian Giant, right, full alpha all the time. Next to me, fresh off the bird from Vegas and boy are his arms tired. It's Washington, D.C.'s bearded assassin Luke Thomas. What's up, man? Yeah. We ain't got shit to talk about today. Nope. But we're going to make it work.
Starting point is 00:01:48 We make lemonade out of lemons apparently. Out of piss. So we are going to have, there was some developments to this White House. So we're going to talk about your sit-day. That's right. We're going to talk about the UFC. We're going to draft White House cards And we have a new segment today to fill time
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Starting point is 00:02:29 I haven't slept well in days, but I am ready to go for today's show. You were, I'm assuming fantastic. I did not get a chance to see it, though. XFC 53, Juan Archeletta and the main event Las Vegas on Saturday. Is there anything you can tell us about how it went? First of all, let's say big thanks to the folks
Starting point is 00:02:45 at XFC as well as XFC partnered with another promotion for this called Baroka. They're native to Las Vegas, the matchmakers from Las Vegas, the guys who run the promotion from Las Vegas. They were all super pros very nice people so shouts to all the people at barroca they did a great job this week and a lot of challenges that they had to deal with but they certainly made it work and thrived i thought and of course all to my xfc fam as well johnny lecoasto and jessica do you ever call
Starting point is 00:03:09 johnny habibi like i do i don't i don't that's what his lady calls that's one way i guess his lady is saudi is that right i think from that region of the world i'm not sure which country's arab i'm not sure exactly we're from but anyway um dude juan rchaleta 38 years old he's been a champion in every organization he's been in he lost He lost his last three in Risen, took not quite, but almost a year off, and came back and had a highlight real K.O. and Baroka. And then last night, or I should say Saturday, fought Jose Johnson, a four-time UFC vet. And, dude, I mean, smoked him. Smoked him. Listen, I don't know what Archeletta can do for the rest of his career, but he's been explicit.
Starting point is 00:03:46 He wants a signing with the UFC. I really hope he gets it. I think he's earned it. And, yeah, there was some other. Dude, Ray Cooper was on this card against this. I'm dude. Ray Cooper, the third? that guy bings. Dude, Ray Cooper the third. How old is Ray Cooper?
Starting point is 00:03:59 I'm going to guess 38. 32. I couldn't believe. How the hell is he 32? That's what I said. Dude, and he's beaten names like Brett Cooper, Macabed,
Starting point is 00:04:08 MacGamette Caramoff, Rory McDonald. Brett Cooper. He knocked out Chris Curtis. He was on this card and he lost to a guy from Kyrgyzstan. Dude, these guys from that part of the world, man, they are...
Starting point is 00:04:20 Valentinas from Kyrgyzstan, too. Yeah, they're not fucking around. They're different over there. Anyway, it was cool. man it was cool it was uh you know flying southwest not my favorite i don't i don't enjoy that boarding process if i can be honest with you yeah southwest is the worst but would you would you be willing to roll the dice on a budget airline like and i know southwest kind of is but like i'm actually doing that
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Starting point is 00:05:01 Do you think you can get high just from talking to Ken? Like just from like looking at his eyes, you think? Okay, let me finish this real quickly. I have to cop to one error that I'm sure like almost nobody saw
Starting point is 00:05:11 but now that I'm saying this, people will see it. There was an error getting the prelims going. There was supposed to be two and we had to put, we had to do one post limb. So we did a post limb. And I told you about this,
Starting point is 00:05:20 dude, this card got reshuffled in innumerable ways. There are a lot of gas stillems on there. Well, not just that. Like, there was just insane, I cannot tell you how many. I completely could not keep track with all the changes. So finally, we get to the post-lame, and I had called one of the guys' fights, the guy who won. So I knew who he was, but I thought he'd been on the card all this time.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And I forgot how he got plugged in because there was another pair of this guy who was in the card before him who dropped out. I just lost my train of thought. So I put a microphone in his face. He has a phenomenal knockout over a D-1 wrestler. And I go, did you plan to wrestle in the camp? he's like the camp motherfucker I got the call four days ago Oh yeah you're doing
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Starting point is 00:06:12 He had some WWE event going on It was Russell Paloza The first paper view in the ESPN era That's right so he had to be there He couldn't make it He sent his regards but no he was not there I did meet some MK fans He works at the desk with Peter Rosenberg afterwards, like the post show.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Is that right? Our pre-show. Who did you, you met M.K. donks? A bunch of M.K. donks out there. And, dude, Vegas has some real fight fans that are local fight fans. They like local M.MA. And they came up and they all were like, oh, we love MK, B.C., blah, blah. They have nice things to say about you as well.
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Starting point is 00:08:10 And he's from Long Island. Not yet. Finally happened. He's from Long Island. It's Luke Nocita. Sir, it's great to see you. How are you? It's great to see you guys, too. You guys have a good weekend? Yes, I know. Great family weekend. What did you do this weekend with no UFC? I had to spend it all with my girlfriend.
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Starting point is 00:09:33 We're going to have some fun today. So let's hit it with topic number one. I know we hit it with topic five on Friday, but a lot of developments came over the weekend about this late June, 250th anniversary of the U.S. White House UFC card on the South Lawn. We had a bunch of players, including Connor McGreg. Michael Chandler and Dana White make different appearances on Fox News.
Starting point is 00:09:55 We've got releases of drawings. We've got a few things going on. But let me start with a general question here, Luke. From the release of these artist renderings that we'll get to in a second, from McGregor telling Fox News that he's going to fight Michael Chandler, of all people, to Dana White's saying this will be the greatest white card in UFC history. Everyone's talking about this UFC White House card. Maybe because it's a slow news cycle, but that's not really the question.
Starting point is 00:10:19 How much have these latest developments, though? Increased or decreased your excitement separate from your political lean, just about the idea of what Dana's saying. UFC is coming to the nation's capital. They're taking over the city. They're aligning it with the country's 250th birthday. And they're putting on one of the most unique events we have ever heard of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I mean, people keep saying to make this separate from political leanings, but that's really not possible. Not that this is a discussion I'm about to have. I'm asking you as D.C. resident and a MA fan. Yeah, but like, dude, you have an administration who is in D.C. that are hostile to the people of D.C. like me, and I, listen to me, we don't have to, I'm not going to spend a bunch of time on. I'm going to make it in and out. But they're aligning themselves with the administration at a time in which they are engaging in a series of extraordinarily polarizing acts. And I don't know how you can divorce those considerations given the tie-ins. It's not easy, but- More to the point. There's a broader consideration. about, dude, the rumble in the jungle, the thrill in manila, there are, those were kind of sports washing.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Well, that's, I mean, let's be honest, that's what this is, this is too. And the last thing I'm going to say on this is, for just the present moment, I was looking this up the other day, did you know, so one thing that Dana White said was, by the way, they might do the way ends up the Lincoln Memorial, and that we've talked about the geography, the ellipsies just on the other side of East Street, yeah, yeah, there is this, I mean, the National Mall can hold hundreds of thousands of people. So 85 is actually given the territory relatively small. I mean, it's still huge, obviously.
Starting point is 00:11:53 But the point I'm trying to make is they also said that. But I didn't realize this. Did you know in 74 for the Rumble in the Jungle, Ali and Foreman, that Mobutu Sesei Seiko also had a music festival for that, which is something that's kind of interesting because Danny White was like, we're going to have concerts there as well going to take over the whole city. Anyway. So all that aside, you as a D.C. guy, you've dedicated most of your adult life to covering this sport,
Starting point is 00:12:18 It's coming to your town. Whether you align politically or not, it's a celebration of our country. All these new things, is it making you a little more excited about this? I, let me try and answer that question as genuinely as I can. If you ask the average D.C. resident what they expected or what their view is of this, I don't think you'd get a super high positivity rate. You'd get mostly, we don't really care one way or the other. So I don't know what I don't care if they live or die
Starting point is 00:12:49 No not that It's just it's not it's not on There's just all kinds of activities on the federal side of D.C. every single day Like it's hard to care about one big thing or the other And these can be significant I'm going to tell you as a fan Who cares about MMA On the card side
Starting point is 00:13:06 That I do think that Depending on how it goes you could get something Yes historic no matter what But I'm talking about card quality you could get some pretty interesting things. Jones Whitaker is still possibility. Jones Whitaker is still on the board. Less likely, but possible.
Starting point is 00:13:28 But the part I'm trying to make is I actually think that the card could be really interesting. I don't know if it can be a slam dunk no matter what, which is something we'll get into. But the last thing I just say on this is overall, I understand that MMA fans, the dominant lens, is going to be, hey, look at the spectacle. this event, look at the quality of the card. These are the things that we care about. It's all we ever care about absent these other considerations. I'm just saying you cannot align with an administration and have these questions be considered irrelevant. Right. And I'll say from the beginning what I said when this got announced is it's still weird to me, even as an MMA fan and a fan of this country, that this is how we're going to choose to celebrate, you know, this
Starting point is 00:14:12 anniversary, but at the same time, the new developments are getting me a little bit more excited that we could see something truly unique and historic here. It'll be live and free to the public, according to Dana, on CBS. Long Island, look, if you don't mind starting to show these images that were played on Fox News. So this is the archway. Yeah, the renderings. Yeah, the renderings. This is the archway.
Starting point is 00:14:32 If you can go back to that one, that would be fantastic. This is the archway of lights that Dana was talking about that would be over the fighting service. So this would be the South Lawn, and then there is essentially a, and East Street there, Northwest, and then Constitution Avenue. And over in that territory is the ellipses. And then you're in the National Mall, basically. So one side of the cameras point to the White House, the other side of the camera point to the Washington Monument.
Starting point is 00:14:54 This is the Lincoln Memorial here. Where you were married on those steps, right? No, I was married at the Jefferson Memorial. Oh. Yeah, the Jefferson Memorial. Okay. So, again, what you're looking at there is the South Lawn. If imagine you could look further to the right, you would then see the, I guess that's it.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Yeah, that's sort of. it. No, that's them coming in. So that would be that would be sort of the angle. Go back to the last one. This would be the fighters coming out of whatever they're going to come out of. And they'll, oh yes, you can't. Look over the guy with the white shirt, the fighter walking out. Look over his left eye. You can see the Washington
Starting point is 00:15:28 monument just on the other side. You can fill that up. I'm not even kidding. Hundreds of thousands of people. You can easily do that. Can we skip ahead to the Dana video talking about a lot of these details, please? This is interesting Dana White on Fox News. Yeah. So we want to reveal these schematics, these pictures for UFC with the octagon in the middle. How many seats there? What is the
Starting point is 00:15:50 plan? Well, we're still playing with that. It's going to be under 5,000 people. You know, it depends on how much the lawn can hold. Are you able to pause it? You know, as far as wait, the octagon. Very quickly. My official prediction for how many people are going to be there, closer to the 3,000 range. Put me down for that. Go ahead. itself weighs 15,000 pounds.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So we don't know. We're still working it out. And my vision for this thing is we have this big arch, as you can see, with the lighting grid, because what I want is the White House on the back. And then when the fight goes around to the other side, you'll see the Washington Monument. Yeah, well, keep going scrolling through. There's another shot from the side, and you can kind of see the grand scope of this, the next one. There you see the fighters kind of walking in, and there's the backwards look. I mean, it's a massive operation right there.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Yeah, it really is. In addition to that on the South Lawn, there's also a viewing party on the ellipse. I think we have a shot of that with all the screens, and that's a lot more people in that area. That could be a huge area. Yeah, we get 55,000 people over there. We're going to have a stage where music, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:59 we'll have bands playing all day, and then people will be able to bring blankets and lay around and watch the fights. We'll have screens up everywhere for everybody. we're literally going to take over Washington, D.C. that week. We're going to do the way-ins there. We're going to have a fan events. At the Lincoln Memorial.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And we'll have fan events all week. We're going to do our expo there and just a total Washington, D.C. take-off. All right, look, I'm kind of getting excited about this. This is interesting. That idea of it almost being like a concert festival, we don't do this for MMA. We barely do stadiums or outdoor shows. So this unique way of looking at it, look, I mean, I'm kind of fired up for it.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Here they are doing one of their biggest shows ever in my backyard. I should be a lot more excited for it. And I will say... You can enjoy things. You know that. Well, yes, you can. But, you see, we also have to be consistent in the way in which we view the world and not just throw things out because you have a fleeting moment of frivolity you want to entertain.
Starting point is 00:17:55 What if Jimmy Kimmel has loved to announce the fighters come out? Hold on. Let me finish my point very quickly. Sorry. God damn. Here I am swallowing. Once a man swallows. It's not, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:05 The point I'm trying to make is, in many ways this is following consistently with what we've asked of UFC which is hey once in a while go big do something special and like for example you may like it you may dislike it but they tried that at the sphere and I've been in favor of that I like what they're trying from a very technical level here it's ambitious it's different it's big MMA needs that it's just for me I lastly I won't mention it for the rest of the show the tie-in politically is undeniable and to me is very questionable,
Starting point is 00:18:37 but whether this is good for the long-term health of the brand and certainly puts a bad taste in my mouth. I'll leave it at that. I mean, you know, maybe if it's like Kedaroff Putin, Turkey, all the world leaders are there, then maybe your opinion could change on that.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Let's go to Connor McGregor on Fox and Friends is a short clip, but talking about what I teased earlier, the idea that it's not going to be Nate, it's going to be Chandler. Yeah. With Dana White and UFC, there'll be a fight at the White House.
Starting point is 00:19:03 They're making up the cards now. Does Connor McGregor want to be? you part of that? I'm on it. I'm on it. I am. This is me. Michael Chandler. Michael Chandler and myself, I've done the show, the ultimate fight that we've had a good back and forth. He's a good tough guy. And, you know, the Mac is excited to get back for sure. So is he saving the Diaz fight? I just think because Chandler's all American because he kind of, not kind of, he got screwed. Diaz is also American. True. And I'm not trying to make a say. I'm saying when you add in that he's a company man
Starting point is 00:19:37 who got screwed by Connor when Connor pulled out of two IFWs ago. He's intensely patriotic. Intensely patriotic. He was also on Fox News during this media roundup. It makes sense. It would not make sense to me as a main event. If it ended up being Connor McGregor versus Chandler,
Starting point is 00:19:52 it's not lost to me the star power. They're just having McGregor in general. McGregor's pulled out of the Irish presidential race sort of aligned in line with this. I'm not sure if it's related or not. But would you tolerate if that was the main event, though? I feel like they can do so much better. If that's the main event, I think that's a disappointment.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But on the card, yeah. On the card, to me, a different consideration. As a main event, that's a letdown. Yeah, yeah, that's a fun-ass action fight. Here's a little bit of a shock. Can you believe that? We're at a place where we're saying a Connor McGregor fight. Not that they're saying it doesn't do well for the card,
Starting point is 00:20:24 but they were literally saying him fighting someone else. He did a reality TV show with this is unsuitable for us in 2026. I mean, that's crazy. Is some of that because Chandler's piled up losses? I'm just saying 10 years after 2016, it's unfathomable. It is unfathomable. Just having him on the card, though, to bring back casual fans. It's going to be live on CBS.
Starting point is 00:20:43 It makes so much sense, even with Conner's missteps outside the cage. But speaking of missteps outside the cage, we played the footage on Friday of Dana White sort of voicing the opinion that the company has that can they trust John Jones to be on there? According to John Jones' biggest rival, Daniel Cormier. I can't believe he did this. This is interesting. Let's go right to D.C. here. John Jones has stated publicly he wants to fight at the White House.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Even last week he was at the Grammys or some shit like that, and he was on the red carpet speaking about how he's back testing and he's ready to fight at the White House. But Dana seems more stern in not letting him today than I have ever seen him in regards to John Jones. I remember when he canceled that fight against Chale, Dana said he'll never headline again. This time he seems like he is not going to back down
Starting point is 00:21:31 and allow for him to be on his White House call. And if I'm being completely honest, I don't know that I agree. I think I would let him fight. I think if he wants to fight, I would let him fight because for as much as mixed martial arts is a global sport. And it's a sport that everybody loves and we support people from all around the world. At the end of the day, when we're fighting at the White House, you want American people that can win. At the end of the night, imagine if we're on the White House lawn and the American aren't winning fights, and that could happen because when the opening line, McGregor versus Chandler comes out,
Starting point is 00:22:11 Chandler's going to be a pretty substantial underdog, as he should be, even though Connor hasn't fought in forever, he will still be the favorite to beat Michael Chandler. I believe that you've got to let him fight, man. I think that you put some things in his contract that makes it very costly to not follow through. interesting take from the fact that it's his biggest rival in that none of us are apologizing for the john's missteps but i also agree and i said it last week i think with the lack of american stars in the fact that he's the closest outside of kela harrison who's the only american champion will probably be on this card as well and deserves to be he's the closest one who doesn't
Starting point is 00:22:52 have a belt who can be in a a superish fight that could main evented if they did the aspinall fight or even if they did a perera fight you know what i'm saying like in some form i was i was thinking about this, right? And I like Daniel. I mean, I'm not here to back on him. Like, it's his opinion. I just can't understand how he came to this position. It's got to be a pro-American position. That's got to be the foundation of it. Okay. Because if you did Ilya
Starting point is 00:23:13 Islam in the main event, we'd all love it from an MMA standpoint, but for the 250th birthday of this country, it might not make sense. Well, first of all, it's not for the 250th birthday of this country. They moved it to a different fucking month. They moved it like a week before. It's the same thing. Think about it. IFW used to be a July 4th weekend card. Now they've moved it to late June. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Okay. I mean, they can say it's for the birth of the country to like to to valorize it it's not just matter of factly it's not okay don't die in that hill come on it just it's not bc it's not it's not they can stood if they they can valorize it with rhetoric whatever they want it doesn't have any relationship to that they can party and then throw fights at a party that's true but this has nothing to do with treating the history of our country reverentially all right putting that aside here uh cormier saying that dude i got off the in Vegas on a Wednesday night. And this is before, you know, you had turning on the phone
Starting point is 00:24:07 and then seeing all the texts from my producer at Sirius XM being like, Jones popped, fight is off. Yes. And I'm like, and who was the other guy who was supposed to fight at 200? Daniel Cormier. Cormier ended up fighting, of course, as we know, Anderson Silva. Now, BC, I was thinking about this. And I'm like, how would that not have left the most insane, awful taste in his mouth?
Starting point is 00:24:26 And I suspect, of course, that it did. Part of it is just moving on. He fought him again later, blah, blah, blah. but also remember that card had Brock Lesnar on it it had Anderson Silva on it who was his opponent it had some big names on it probably did pretty well on pay-per-view he probably
Starting point is 00:24:41 still did well enough on that card no matter what right sure but does that change his opinion because in the end he didn't suffer financially as a consequence I respect that he's taking him his personal feelings
Starting point is 00:24:57 out of the debate and saying look for the sport for the country for what this event It's supposed to be, if John wants to fight, if you can put in the contract elements that make it, you know, a huge penalty for him to F up, then let's do it. No, he's not saying it has to be the main event. He's not saying it has to be aspirin, although I'm saying that. Yeah. Could you do John Pereira? You could do a few different things.
Starting point is 00:25:19 But the main, the idea of John Jones as a main event for this card, when the premium is what? Star Power, of course, but reliability seems to me impossible. On the card, something of a separate argument, certainly. But let's also reckon with something else. Number one, Jones is unreliable, not just with anti-doping authorities, but with various criminal proceedings. Pregnant women in an intersection. You name it, right? He is unreliable and has been unreliable for long durations of his career.
Starting point is 00:25:51 More to the point, BC, I'm sorry to tell everyone this, if we stack this card in the most insane way possible, Again, it depends who you use. We'll get to that. What about the rest of the freaking calendar? The UFC needs... Seriously, if you're the UFC, think about how the UFC builds their vision. They build it year or five year at a time. So, yes, you've got to fill the July pay-per-view.
Starting point is 00:26:13 You've got to fill... I'm sure this will be International Fight Week. You've got to fill the August. You've got to fill the November back in MS. You've got to fill these dates. You could have issues if there's injuries. Why not save Jones for one of those? Because we have so few American stars, that's why.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But I want a heads-up by saying, don't you think people would be, we're seeing how aggressive people are and saying they want to fight on this card. I think people would be willing to do short camp, short turnarounds for this. Even Rhonda Rousey, I'm not saying she's coming back,
Starting point is 00:26:38 but she's posting videos of her training for the first time in years and there's quotes of her saying, you know, without the pressure on my shoulders, I feel so good doing this. I don't know if she can come back with all the CTE comments she's made, but like you're starting to see everyone come out of the woodwork
Starting point is 00:26:52 and want to be on this for the unique nature of it, that's why I want to sneakily ask you, Is there any part of D.C. that's thinking if I pushed for John 2bby on it, then I do a trilogy against him. He started training. Did you see that? I mean, I don't know if he started training, but he got up in the bullpen. Correct me if I'm wrong, Luke. Has D.C. recently been putting out more footage of him training? I haven't seen it. I'm not going to lie. I have. I definitely have. All right. Do you think D.C. could shed enough weight to do this? Oh, that's, um. Brother, I love D.C. He got a long way to go.
Starting point is 00:27:20 You got what? Eight, nine months? You know, that's enough time, right? Nine months? I think he could. I. Do you really think that? I really hadn't considered this. Dude, you know I'm the only American that's still pushing for this to be a trilogy at Heavyweight, Jones versus D.C. You know I'm the only one. You think that's the way they go?
Starting point is 00:27:36 You're not going to do Jones Steep A, too, are you? I mean, he is American, but no, come on, no, no. I mean, it could be Jones Derek Lewis. There's a lot of ways this can work. That's right. I would like Jones Aspenol, if I'm really being honest, rematch of 1776. Like, let's go, okay, all right? Let's go on that one.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Dude, this is the part about Jones that is so frustrating. aside from the questions about who he is as a person, but like the way in which he interacts with the world, can you imagine if he had, can you imagine if you had Michael Chandler's reliability and like, you know, pro company stuff, showing up for everything on time,
Starting point is 00:28:10 blah, blah, blah, boost, you know, being a booster for the company in media, but then Jones's talent and ability, like how easy this call would be, how delighted we would be to make it. Yeah. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And speaking to Diaz, I think you could do like, Yez, Mazvedal, too, Diaz, Diaz, Holloway. Like, there's some things you could do. with Diaz. There are a few options you have with Diaz, but where the appetite is and what that fight looks like at the, we didn't talk about this.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Are you a little bit concerned about who you book at the White House based on what happens in the fight? And I don't mean the violence and the gore, although, what can you do? Sure. You can book the two most pillow-fisted fighters and one might catch an elbow. Somebody could lose an air, some chick might shit her pants. A broken arm from an arm bar, you never know. but in terms of like
Starting point is 00:28:57 remember like late stage Bellator where it just looked almost certainly those old guy fights would look a little on the comical side I don't want them to go the So how youthful do you have to go to fulfill that mission? Look I'm not worried about what it does
Starting point is 00:29:10 to the rest of the calendar because I'm still a little bit upset that when we're talking about both the sphere and UFC 300 it didn't feel like they properly planned it it felt like they were sort of scrambling to fill out the cards but particularly 300 right
Starting point is 00:29:22 and I'm like for something this historic that was so far away on the horizon on the calendar, you have to make it big. I would almost rather them make this as good as it can be, but there are questions like you're saying, how many old guy fights will downgrade the feel of the product? How many non-Americans do you want when you still want to show the best of what UFC has?
Starting point is 00:29:41 There's a lot of things in play right here. I wonder if the concern about the schedule and the concern about a lack of Americans leads to it being, and the fact that it's going to be live on CBS, and it's a spectacle, leads to the fact that we have a lot of aging American names on there just from the standpoint of you're not going to kill your champions and contenders in the other divisions but like Chandler Max Holloway
Starting point is 00:30:03 could you get Porre up in the bullpen? You know what I mean? Like those type of names could we just, could the card be filled with those where it's more inconsequential all-star game fights? I don't know if I would hate that or not. I mean, as long as it's a perfect mix, would you be upset if, you know, the main card was filled with three fights of really no consequence but just fun.
Starting point is 00:30:23 American beloved names putting them in there. I'm not sure which way. I don't know what the right answers on these are. This is one of those unusual cards where you kind of got to balance some competing factors that maybe are always there, but not to this degree. They're much more pronounced this time, and that makes getting the balance right a little tougher. A little bit tougher.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Wow. All right. Well, get ready to draft in a second. We're going to be going a little bit deeper on UFC Whitehouse, but you want to talk with the time. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure? from this year? I wouldn't say anything as a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that, and that's the goal. We want to win a
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Starting point is 00:32:57 story began in real time, all right? So check that out. All right, let me get my laptop here. We're going to have a little bit of fun. You remember our draft for UFC 300 back in the day when we tried to make a fun card? Yep. Back then, though, we were picking fighters and we were sort of matching on the fly.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Well, this UFC White House draft, we're going to mix it up just a little bit. So let me get into the rules here because you know Luke Thomas, you know. Right? We know Luke Thomas, right? Yeah. He'll break a rule. I can't believe you brought your laptop to MK. That might be a first.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah, I just lost the damn rundown, though. What am I doing here? Sorry. I think I just deleted something there. So here's the plan. Luke Thomas and I are going to take turns drafting matchups to fill out our cards. Six fights each where each are going to come forth with our own White House supercard. Once a matchup is taken, neither fighter can be used by the other person.
Starting point is 00:33:47 We are going to put the poll out there from Long Island Luke on the live YouTube to get the fans to vote on which supercar at the White House that they're going to. So Long Island, Luke, how do we decide who gets to go first here? And I got a couple, one or two other rules, I've got to tell you.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I don't know. We didn't think this through. I'm thinking of a number one to ten. Okay. I'm going to go with number three. I'll go seven. The number was four. So we'll give BC to go first.
Starting point is 00:34:15 All right. So here are your rules for this. This is not, by the way, This is not the game we're playing later. This is not a Ron jatois. This is not a Ron jatois. All we are going to go back and forth picking matchups. All fighters chosen must currently be on the active UFC roster,
Starting point is 00:34:32 but each of us are allowed to pick one fighter who is either non-active as retired or a free agent, but they can't be under contract with PFL or one. Okay. So you get one fight with one bonus retired or a free agent fighter. Okay. Also, each fighter is only eligible to be drafted once. So here we go. I have one question.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Sure. As I draft, do I have to draft in a particular order? In other words, main card opener up or main event down? Probably main event down because of the premium being placed on. Like, once you use it, I can't use it. I mean, I'm sure at the end you can switch it around if your fourth fight is a perfect co-man. You can do that. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:09 With the first pick in the UFC White House draft for 2025, Team B.C. selects, let's do it. The heavyweight championship, UK versus USA Part 2, John Jones, fulfilling. his destiny here. Tom Aspinall versus John Jones for the UFC Heavyweight Championship. Let's go. That's my main event. All right. So your first one is Jones Aspinall. I can neither, I can't use either of them, right? Correct. You know, how many criminals do I want on my card? It's a, it's a fair concern. Here's the sad part about MMA. Your card gets better the more
Starting point is 00:35:45 criminals you have on it. That's... And the more non-Americans apparently this in these days, you know. You got a few, this is, this is going to be the hardest pick. Yeah, this is the pivotal one because I got to make a decision about who's going to be on this card. You know what, man? I'm going to go, I'm going to go with what I want to see. How about that?
Starting point is 00:36:05 I mean, I'm going to fulfill the obligations of what you're asking. Sure. And I'm going to use one of my bonus picks. Go for it. Give me Rhonda Holly Holme 2. Whoa. Give me Rhonda Holly Holie home 2. For the main, the eyeballs would be there for the,
Starting point is 00:36:20 that for Ronda Rousey's return against the time she got waxed by this live on CBS by the way waking up all them casuals two Americans two Americans in the main event two Americans what do you what do you think what do you think about our main events so far I mean BC's got you beat on the main event fuck off that's like a good card open you don't even know if John is good anymore I don't even know by the way I'm more shitting I'm more shitting on Holly and Rhonda than I am like do the size of that's fight I'm sorry is much bigger than Jones Aspinall to a casual audience, dude, putting the return to Rhonda Rousey in UFC, it would be massive. Putting it on a White House and making that
Starting point is 00:37:00 the main event would do motherfucking gangbusters. Especially if she was humble in the way she was talking about how her career ended, she went to deep detail about it. If it's a big redemption story, yes. Dude, what are we talking about here? We're like second chances in America. Yeah, exactly. All right. Go ahead. So I took Rhonda from you. That's a dagger, but I know what you're going to do I can't leave this on the board with my second pick and your co-main event. Even if the UFC isn't going in the direction right here, Matchmaker, BC will. This is a slam dunk. Give me Connor McGregor Nate Diaz 3.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Wow. Okay. All right. Connor Diaz 3. I like it. I like it. Now, why didn't you pick Chandler? Because you heard Connor just talking about it.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Look, both are, Nate Diaz is American, first of all. So we have that going for us. It is a, they have to finish this rivalry off. So is there a better place to do it than right here? I can't think of a better place. By the way, I like your choice better than Connor versus. Both are action fights. This one, okay, if you went Chandler McGregor, you have more questions, I think, in some ways.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But I was never all that, even though that fight is going to be good in any circumstance at any time talking about McGregor Chandler, I was never all that emotionally invested in it. I'm emotionally invested in the history of Diaz versus McGregor, even though it's been so long since they fought. They fought twice in back-to-back fights in 2016. I just think that you are, if the point is to fish for casual fans, how many people came into the sport before Diaz McGregor won? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Like this is the number outside of possibly rousy returning to try to avenge against Holly Holm, this is like the most nostalgically redemptive fight you can grab. And by the way, I know that I could have gone Rhonda Misha Tate for what, the third fight? But I don't think that has the same juice. I think Holly's got a little bit of a different. That thing sailed away with that ATV that Brian Carraway stole. All right. I mean, this is the benefit.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I can't have Jones or Connor, which we know. And DS2. I went Jones DC3 for the benefit. So all three of those are big-ass names. There's no question. But I'm going to go quality over name for my co-main event. I can't believe it's even the co-main event. But maybe it probably wouldn't be, but, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I'm going to call it the co-main. Give me Ilya Tuporia versus Islam Makach. That's the best fight you can make in this board. And, I mean, that's a fucking no-brainer, right? I mean, that's, I'm sorry to tell you, sir, that's your main event. Okay, that's the best way you can make in the whole dance sport. I went, I went, I went, you know. Do you know what's crazy about that is now you have eliminated my ability to take Islam Rockamanoff or Elia Paddy, for example, right?
Starting point is 00:39:31 This starts to make it a little bit crazy. Yep. All right. I'm going to go. No, one question. Yeah. Do we have any concerns about how many title fights can go on the broadcast, either, by the UFC has done it, which is three at the most, or in terms of how it might interfere with broadcast
Starting point is 00:39:48 time? It's a great question. You and I are picking six fight cards. Three active UFC title fights are the most. But you're also going to have to, some of these will have to be five rounds. So how many five round fights do you want? Yeah, it's a question. I think three is probably, do we agree, Long Island?
Starting point is 00:40:04 Three title fights on this card is the max we can pick. Yeah, definitely. Also, real quick, guys, we got to fix the lights. It's going to go dark in there for a second. It's been going dark in my life for years. years. Yeah, it's all right. It'll look funny. Oh, oh. All right, we back. There we go. Okay, with the third pick in my White House draft, let's go. Past against Future for the UFC Women's Bannamweight Championship,
Starting point is 00:40:30 Kayla Harrison versus Amanda Nunes. Let's freaking go. Okay, let's go. That's a big one. I mean, losing that hurts. I'm not going to lie and say that it doesn't. You already have women on your card, so, I mean, you know, you could go back. I mean, you can give me Rose Whaley three if you really want. Yeah. All right. I'm going to go with one. So, well, I'm sorry, say it one more time. You got... Harrison Nunes. You got, you got Nunes and you got Harrison. All right. I'm making a list so I can see. All right. All right. Now, that hurts. That hurts.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Your card, I think, is the more conventionally correct one. All right. Got it. Yeah, this fucks me a little bit. All right. I'm going to go with what I've got as a fight that I just think makes a lot of sense. I'm sorry. Layenda versus Crawford is not available. All right. Okay. I'm sorry. We're going to do Crawford Spence in MMA. There is. There is.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Jake Paul's MMA debut. No. I'm going to go with a fight that some people have been talking about that I think is not going to add really anything to the star power. But I do think would be, if we're talking about we're going to blow this card out. Give me Marab de Valishvili versus Alessandre Pantogia, 35 title. I like that. And understand something. You're going to say, oh, well, Marab is Georgian.
Starting point is 00:41:40 That's true. But he also became an American citizen. recently so he is an immigrant and i think telling that kind of an american story if if what we're ostensibly doing is trying to prioritize that is pretty important and also by the way as a fight can't say you don't want to see it no you want to see that you definitely definitely want to see that all right well done right there you see our cards are shaping up through three fights okay with my fourth pick here man this is now we're tough first three i feel like on either side i feel like i have better options for non-title fights
Starting point is 00:42:11 than I do title fights here. You know, there's definitely some fun matchups you can make. But I do need one more title fight. So for my final title fight, I'm going to make it look like this. Oh, I see, yes, yes. Okay. I'm going to go with Hamzat Tremayev. Oh, you fucking bitch.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Defending the middleweight championship against Fluffy Hernandez. Oh! Because I feel of this middleweight group, even though he just pulled out of a fight that could have got him into a title fight, That is the best option of can somebody stand up with the exact skills that Chimai of brings to the table. It's not as sexy star power-wise as the others.
Starting point is 00:42:48 You know what I'm saying? It's not Chimaya versus Pereira, which was on the board. I'm instead going to go against Fluffy to have an actual live divisional matchup right here. You son of a bitch, you took my Hamzot fight for me. But it's a good call. All right. If I would have left you Hamzot Pereira there, I would have, or maybe I should have taken that myself. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:05 If we're telling American stories, not the whole way through, but we're doing our best to prioritize it. I don't see how you can have a card, given who's on the roster, given who's available, given who he haven't picked yet. Yep. Give me Max Holloway defending the BMF title against Dan Hooker. Oh, wow. You know, that wouldn't have been on my list, but that one bangs. Max Hooker for the BMF title.
Starting point is 00:43:29 So though my three title fights would be Seporia Makachev at, I guess 55, Mara Pantoja at 35, and then BMF title, Max Hooker. Biggest placement for a hooker at the White House since Hunter Biden's Oh, yes, yes, there it is. Oh, that is awesome. That is awesome. All right. Two fights left.
Starting point is 00:43:50 All right. What are you going to do? Money that I want. So many that I want here. Don't say anything along on, Luke, other than to answer the question, yes or no. Is there a big fight or is the reasonably big fight that we haven't picked yet that you had in mind? No, but there's a big star on the table that I, that you guys. Yeah, that's a Poetan, but we kind of took away a lot of the greatest options available.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I mean, look, you can go Poetan-on-onc-3. That's on my list. Instead, I'm going to do this. Title fight. Can't do that. Instead, I'm going to do this. Doesn't involve an American, but it does work for me high up in contention. I do not know if he will be champion or not at this point. But either way, I'm going Jack Della Madelena against Ian Machado Gary. Wow, that's actually not a bad call. J.D.M. against Ian. You love Ian Gary. So I guess in this scenario, J.D.M. would have lost to Uncleayev in this scenario. Yes. Again, we're doing the best we have with the information that we've got. Okay. You mean Markachev. You said Uncle I.
Starting point is 00:44:47 J.D.M. You said if J.D.M lost to Uncle I have. Oh, yeah. Thank you for great. I have. I have. All right. I got to take this next fight because I just feel like if I don't, you're going to pick one of these two guys and it's going to fuck me. And I do think that this fight is both relevant, interesting, valuable for the card, and has an American on. And again, I'm trying to prioritize that to the extent possible. Give me Sean Brady versus Shafcott Rockmano. That's a good ass fight. Sean Brady, Shafcott Rock Mono. That is a good ass fight.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Now, you could, here's the thing. You know who would be a great candidate for this card if he hadn't fucked up against RDR? Boehickle. Boe Nickel would have been a great call. Also, we have- Table Stephson is available. That would have been interesting to put him out. And also, you know what kind of sucks about the state of Henry Sohudo.
Starting point is 00:45:34 He also would have been a good candidate for this. card, but I can't think of the right bantamweight matchup to make any of that work. Fair point. So give me Brady Shavkot. All right. Last one. Last one here. I like old guy fights. I got certainly one of those
Starting point is 00:45:50 with McGregor Diaz. I mean, Jones is old, Amanda's old too, but the whole point is, you know, I got one with McGregor Diaz, but I do feel like we need bangers. So I'm going to pull a free agent and I'm going to do this. Uh-oh. And I think I also picked this for our U.S. Did you already pull a free agent and Nate Diaz?
Starting point is 00:46:06 Can't do it twice. That's a fair question. Do we consider Nate D as a free agent or under contract right now? He's free. That's a fair point. Okay, you know what I was, oh, I can't do it. I was going to do, I was going to do. This is where it gets tough.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I was going to do Chandler Eddie 3. Oh, that would have been good. That would have been a banger, but I can do even better than that. All right, here we go. I'm looking over my list of remaining ones. I can't do a title fight because I've done three already. So that makes it hard for Pereira right here. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I'm going to do. Yeah, yeah, this is starting to make sense. I'm going to do Patty Pimbleau. Oh. All right. Versus Armand Sauru K. Oh, that's a good fight. No, I mean, you know, we're not getting U.S. pride there in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I mean, Saruiken is an American citizen now, right? But there we go. I don't know if he is. but either way you know he's an armenian in my heart you know oh that's a good one that's a good one all right let's read bc's card out so bc's got as your headliner mcgregor three co-main harrison nunes for the bansomweight title not 45 right correct bandway title uh and then you got hamzat trimia versus uh fluffy for the middleweight title jdm versus ian gary and patty pimbletch versus armin so you get a great card great card all right let's look at mine so i got rousey home too i got a women's fight on there
Starting point is 00:47:36 I've got Makachev-Tuporia, best fight you can make in the sport. I got Davalishvili versus Pantoja. It was kind of a super fight. Did Sugar-Shahn on the board? Oh, it's on the board, but I think you have enough title fights, although you can put them in a non-title fight. I almost did DDP RDR. That would have been a good one as well.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah. I had RDR. I was going to do Homs on RDR. But you took Homs out for me, so I couldn't do that. You got to close it out here. Let me ask your opinion. What do you think I'm missing? In terms of like the kind of thing an MMA fan would want
Starting point is 00:48:08 That's missing from this It's hard to say because for as nostalgia as your main event is Your co-main is the best damn fight you can make in the sport And your third fight is two top 10 pound for pound reigning champions against one another You got nostalgia with with Hook Holloway Yet it's not really nostalgic because it's an active BMF brawl And then you have a number one contenders fight there
Starting point is 00:48:28 And maybe the deepest division and all right I got it I think you may just need a banger This is Bryce Mitchell. I thought you were going to go Colby. I think you need a fun action fight. That's what I really think you need right now. You know what? Colby is.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Where are you going? You're not going Colby. He's still on the roster, right? Yes. Yeah, he's still on play. Honestly, you forget that shit. Yep. Do I want to do Colby, Sean Strickland 85?
Starting point is 00:48:59 I don't, right? Because Colby's a small 70 year. I don't want that I don't want you to do that fight okay okay okay okay okay give me a second I mean can you do Izzy Strickland 2 and just call it a day I mean you could you could do a non-title Izzy Strickland 2 do you want that at three rounds because you can't have five
Starting point is 00:49:15 so Pereira is going to be the one that's headlining the pay-per-view before this apparently so that we can at least have business to continue to move all right man all right hold on hold on I'm going to get this just give me a second give me a second here notice Volkinovsky not taken i know so i was thinking about that too he not taken the all-action guy so
Starting point is 00:49:37 so the big to me the big whiff in terms of quality if we're talking about pound for pound guys not being on this is volk big time big time he's missing also no schofcott from you right i did pick oh you did brady shop that's right okay my bad brady shopcott i didn't delete that off my um all right let's do this i think i think i might have made a pick here let's go Put that a And what's sorry Such a fucking good fight God damn it
Starting point is 00:50:09 See this is That's a real The reason why the Pemblet So You Can fight is so good Is because it's a real fight in the division Rather than moving a guy up And it's kind of like See if the pieces work
Starting point is 00:50:20 I mean that's exactly what you did You have in Brady Rock Monoff It's just like a number one contender potential fight But like I think Pimbleau versus Sauru Kins is going to be madness You know what I mean Um Izzy Whitaker 3. Let's go. Let's go. Come on, Luke. No, you know what? You know what? I'm going to listen to B.C. on this one. Give me. Give me Izzy Strickland 2, non-title. I'm going to put Izzy. I don't like this call. I wish I could make a different call, but.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Looks like I'm going to retire Izzy on the White House lawn. Yeah. I mean, you know, you got, you got, I mean, listen, you got to put names on there that people know. That's a true fact. Given, given that I can't overlap, this is, your card is definitely going to win. You don't know. Long Island, can you tell the people what they need to do? Yeah, there's a poll in the chat right now. I put it up probably five minutes ago once you guys were like three quarters of the way through. I definitely think yours is going to win. However, I do think parts of my card are definitely better.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I mean, anyone can say what they want negative about that rousy home to, but it's, it would bring in so much interest. It's ridiculous. Dude, for people who did not live through her peak, when I tell. you it's a phenomenon unlike any I've ever seen. I'm not kidding Connor obviously was bigger but not in terms of capturing wider audiences. But Long Island look
Starting point is 00:51:38 you would agree that the Rousey would have to be the Co-main. Yes. I think it's a good main card opener. I wouldn't even give it Coleman. You're out of your fucking you need a title fight in the corner. You guys each have three title fights and you think that's going to be top three you could put you could put
Starting point is 00:51:54 you could put Machachev to 4-01 obviously you could put Marab going up another one. you put Rousey home before a BMF fight sorry you would dude that's one of the biggest fights in the history of the fucking sport I hate the BMF title but it is technically a title so what I think you got to put it no you don't no you don't unless you're gonna do like for the vacant women's featherweight title or some shit uh yeah I guess you could do that but no I'm not I'm not yeah your card's gonna win because you got Connor and Jones on this fucking thing and you know there's no doubt about it plus you got dullards like long on Luke who
Starting point is 00:52:28 somehow don't understand the significance of it. We'll let the people decide it, all right? Thank you very much. We will let the people decide our way. But I do come at the end of the show. Look, I'll say this. My card is not as good, I think, in a lot of ways. However, I do have fewer criminals on it. That is true. And so I feel like I solve for that. I wouldn't down your grade your card as aggressively. When you can go Mahachev Toporia, which is the best fight in the sport, you can go Marab versus Pantosia, two top five pawns for people guys and champions in separate divisions. I mean, this is kind of what you want. Also, I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Here, Long Island Luke, in terms of pure action, that's it. That's all we care about. What's the best fight on either card? Pure action. Holloway hooker? Yeah. Holloway hooker. So I feel like he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Oh, McGregor Diaz will be sloppy action, right? Yeah, yeah, but it'd only be three rounds because you've got three title fights. True, true. So you got, and by the way, Marab versus Pantosia. would be two cats in a bag. I mean, it would be madness. But Holloway Hooker is, I mean, you know, you're going to go to GW Hospital when that's all.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Neither of us pulled Hobie by retirement, which I think was the right one. He's not coming. I thought about it yesterday when you sent the rundown, but I was like, he's not going to do it. Especially if Islam's on the card, you know. Well, hey, vote now on YouTube. We'll find out.
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Starting point is 00:53:57 If people want to say, send us stuff, and it's not poop or anthrax. Yes. Where can they send it? There's a P-O-Box. Yeah, you could give out the address if you want. I think it's written right there. P-O-B-E-O-B-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-O-R-E-R-E-O-H-E-O-M-E-O-M-E-O-M-E-E-O-M-E-E-O-E-M-E-E-E-E-E-A-E-E-E-E-E-A-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-R-E-E-E-E-E-R-E-E-E-E-R-E. Sorry, I'm going to look at it.
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Starting point is 00:55:37 Yeah. I would be the meeting of marriage sandwich. Dude, thank you. Thank you. So conscientious, so thoughtful. Very cool. This is definitely going to go on my bookshelf. Yes, yes, it will.
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Starting point is 00:58:37 Topic number three takes me to this, October 11th, the UFC Fight Night Heo card down in there in Brazil. Well, that main event took a hit after an injury to Raphael Fazeve pulled him from that. Calls were made to many other big stars. The problem, according to Charles Olivera, who wants to remain on the card, is that those Big Stars are not answering. They were offered to replace Fiziv on late notice. They have turned it down. So, Luke, we'll get into what was said here.
Starting point is 00:59:03 But right off the top, when you heard the news that Fiziv was out and Charles Oliver needs a new opponent to save this card, who would be the perfect opponent in your eyes to sub in against Doe Bronx? Man, well, we kind of knew what the answer was. And we kind of knew the answer was BSD. Got a war. Benoit Saint-Den. But it looks like either he denied it.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Let's see the tweet from the manager. here we have we have an update there yeah and I needed the other slide the other one though all right there we go no no that's not it here I'll just read the quote
Starting point is 00:59:34 if you can pull that down please the quote from BSD's manager was we respect olivera far too much to take it that way this kind of fight needs preparation so BSD says no if we can show that Gamrot tweet we do know that Mateus Gamrot says respect Charles
Starting point is 00:59:50 de Bronx but I told UFC straight I want to face you in your own house this will be a true masterclass on the ground and I'm ready to prove it. LT, when you look up and down, there are a few names that could make sense. This is a quick turnaround for Olivera after getting sent to hell by Toporia
Starting point is 01:00:06 in the vacant title bout. How do you save this? Well, this is tough. There's not a lot of good options in part. This is kind of a story of where we're at. I mean, we didn't really mention this. We're talking about the White House card, but if you exclude fighters like Jones,
Starting point is 01:00:19 who's basically done, Rousie, who has been done, Connor who is basically not quite done but certainly at the tail end of his fighting career are pretty close to it anyway Diaz, similar thing it like destroys the power of that card to be special
Starting point is 01:00:34 I mean you can still have a very good card but you can not have a special one Chandler Gaichi 2 that would not have been bad right? Chandler Gaichi 2 could have been and you could still do that if they go the Diaz direction so that's a big miss I'm just pointing out look at how central that is to make this work now we come back to the situation here in 2025
Starting point is 01:00:49 in the lightweight division you're asking who do we fill that with? Okay, Charles O'Levara sitting at 4 BC. Fzeb was sitting at 10. Let me go through these names to see which ones could work and couldn't inside the top 15. Five is Justin Gachie. You could do that. We've done it. That's a step backward because he's technically still in the title picture. We don't know which direction the U.S. is going to go for Toporia. And in any case, to the point you raise, he's unlikely to take it. And if he doesn't get Toporia, he's going to get whichever one out of Paddy or Sarukian doesn't get it.
Starting point is 01:01:18 That's right. That's what you think. And then you have Dan Hooker. could go that direction. I don't know if Dan would take that though. Dan, I believe is getting... What fight is Dan being talked about? Is he injured or does he have a fight locked up already, Long Island? I don't think he has anything with that. I thought he was being talked about for a fight. Am I wrong on that? Then you've got
Starting point is 01:01:33 Patty, who's just... They're going to save him for something else. They're not going to do that. You've got eight, Mateus. Yes. Mateus is a good candidate to fill in. And by the way, not for nothing, a fight. Forget the size of the fight. Forget the star power. How good is a fight between Gamrod and Oliva, given the wrestling and the
Starting point is 01:01:51 in Jiu-Jitsu and how they match up. I think pretty exciting, actually. I think one of the few times you could say a Gamrodot fight would be really fun. Sure. All right. Then you got Benile Daryush. By the way, he was cornering a guy over the weekend. I talked to Bineal.
Starting point is 01:02:02 One of the nicest guys in the sport, by the way. Salt and Pepper for Dave. Okay. I don't know if he's ready, but Bineal versus Olavera could be a lot of fun. Did they fight already? No. No, I don't think that they did. Did they?
Starting point is 01:02:14 Well, no. Luke knows more about M.M.A. than me. Top of my head, no. If they did it, it would have been like 10 years ago. I mean, you're not doing Max Charles Olivera, too. Exactly, no. So you got Fiziv at 10. That's out, obviously.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Moycano at 11. Moycano was also a candidate. We hear we got some footage here from Moikano. What is he say? It will be no volume, but I can read to you the translation from Brazilian to English. Okay, let's see it. If you would play that. What's up?
Starting point is 01:02:34 My people. Here's the deal, says Moikano. Bro, I'll cut to the chase. A little birdie told me Fiziv got injured during training. My man. So here's what I'm asking. First things first, UFC, Brazil. First, everyone here.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Wanted to see Hinato Money Moikano fighting in UFC Brazil. Now, Moikano versus Charles Olavera makes total sense. Man, with all due respect, it's not an easy fight. I would be in camp, but a main event against Charles in Brazil couldn't say no. So I'm not just hyping myself here. I want to ask you all my friends, let's hype this video together. We can comment, share, end of video. There you go.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I got a dead wrong us in real time here. Charles Oliver and Bineel fought like two years ago. I thought I remember. I can't even remember the shit. It was right after Charles lost to Islam. He bounced back by knocking out Bineal. Oh, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Luke, Moikano's ready off no camp. So take Baneal off. So now you got, so the two best candidates are Gamrod and Moikano. Chandler, they're not going to do. Then while we established, can't do it. Grant Dawson at four seems an unlikely candidate. And then Huffie just got his ass kick. So he's out of that.
Starting point is 01:03:44 So your best two choices are Moikano and Gamrod. Now, as a fight, I honestly would be a little bit more interested in Gamrot, but I think that the smart money is probably on Money Moikano. That would be a fun-ass last-minute fight to throw together. Moycano has done this before. He's not afraid to go in there and bang. Experience. The title fight on, you know, no notice that night when he already had a card.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Experience, Black Belt and Jiu-Jitsu, you know, I would still pick Charles to win. But remember, there's big questions about Charles and that devastating K.O. he just took. and what he's going to look like coming back like this. By the way, if you're worried about that, Gamrot makes a little bit more sense in my view because I don't think he's quite the striking threat that Moikano is. Well, Charles was upset that a lot of those options that could happen,
Starting point is 01:04:30 he's finding out probably are unlikely to happen. And look, we've got to go back to our friends at Cuervo here because Dobranks don't like it. It's time for a little shots fire. And of course, shots fired. brought to you by Cuervo. Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Here is Doe Bronx speaking exactly on this topic. Everyone has said my lot of the FC Rio came, but look, no, it's a popin of these carers that are there. Ah, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, because the FCC
Starting point is 01:05:05 is batting there, and all they say, ah, no, there's to bathe the peso, ah, no, it's not for me. So this thing to be posting on the internet to gain hype, and forgets because it's
Starting point is 01:05:17 because it's because it's it's like a little bit of the other saying the other saying but in the
Starting point is 01:05:22 time with the what you do you know I'm not the door of the body I'm I'm sure
Starting point is 01:05:26 I'm so I'm so I'm that this bagu that's that I want to I'm
Starting point is 01:05:32 I'm that I'm my adversary macho and then there more some there's
Starting point is 01:05:36 there saying I'm talking to after after always when the league oh
Starting point is 01:05:41 we'll not don't don't do then it's part of this bagu because it's feyo,
Starting point is 01:05:45 want to gain a fame, does another bagu. Don't get an idea putting it about what I'm saying that's
Starting point is 01:05:49 a minute so you're not going to the audio-only listeners. He's just calling out the fighters saying, look,
Starting point is 01:05:56 if the UFC calls you, sorry, in Portuguese, good Lord. Portuguese, yes, that's the language in Brazil. If the UFC calls you,
Starting point is 01:06:03 he's basically saying, look, you know, it's almost, is he kind of saying it's your duty as a man as a fighter to
Starting point is 01:06:07 say yes, look, we heard from BSD's which is bullshit. It's not. They respect him too much.
Starting point is 01:06:14 devastating defeats is what Charles is saying in this point because it seems like he was so aggressively into the idea of fighting in front of home for however long he has left in his career to be in this main event. Is anything what he's saying right? No. No. I, I, I, you can rationalize why someone in his circumstance might say the things that they say, but that's not the same as thinking that what they're saying is true. And that's kind of where I come down on this. He's probably a little bit concerned that something that he is really important to him could fall through by no fault
Starting point is 01:06:48 of his own and I think he's either lashing out or sort of trying to encourage his peers to be pressured by his statements. I think it's strictly utility and to a degree in emotional response. An understandable one. An understandable one. But that's what it is. But no,
Starting point is 01:07:05 guys need to make decisions that are in the best interest of their careers. Maybe those align with Charles in October in Brazil. Maybe they don't. And if they don't, him saying you have an obligation is quite certainly a ridiculous thing to say. I mean, obviously, they could find a body, but it's like you want somebody of a certain name. Somebody you believe that can be. Should Moycano be allowed to go five rounds when he's not in camp? Is that the right move? That's up to him. Do you just do a three-round main event? Can you do that anymore?
Starting point is 01:07:32 You can do three-round main events. It's up to him. All right. Interesting stuff. Long-Ele-Look, do you have a thought on this on who should step in? I like Gamrop, but given that it's in Brazil, I feel like Moecono probably makes more sense. All right. I don't know. When they chant, Vaimouh, bye mohair, I mean, you're going to die. They love it.
Starting point is 01:07:48 They love... Yeah. The Brazilians are nothing, if not nationalists. You know what I mean? Like, they love that shit. All right. Let's go to our fourth and final topic here before we get into a little bit of fun.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Eugene Barman, the head coach of city kickboxing in New Zealand, caught up with our friend Dennis and submission radio and said last week that 36-year-old former two-time middleweight champion, and Israel Adesania has a couple fights left in him before he's ready to hang it up. So the quote exactly from Baraman was, as far as opponents, I don't know, is he's got a couple more in him.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Just give him a fun fight. Give him something exciting. Give him something fun. I haven't really thought about specific names. We should leave it to the fans, I guess. Luke Thomas, you're a fan. Considering Adasanias, 36, he's lost three of four. And I'm sorry, has lost his last three
Starting point is 01:08:36 and has lost four or five overall, all against elite competition. How much do you think Izzy has left? And who would be your choice for two fun fights on the way out? I think that Bearman is a very bright coach. I think Eugene Bearman understands Izzy in ways that we certainly do not, and maybe even in ways that Izzy doesn't. I think he's been a trusted advisor and friend and mentor and, obviously, coach to Izzy for as long as he.
Starting point is 01:09:06 they've had a professional relationship and is he has been fighting for a very long time when you look at the kickboxing record in the even the just not many but you know some of the the boxing fights as well and then a very long mma career you know i don't think he has necessarily taken abuse in the sense of pound for pound each fight does he take a lot of abuse but in the overall scope of his career he has taken an enormous amount of abuse so when eugene says he's got two left I think two or less is probably right. You know, you don't have to have your next one be your retirement, but you should be exiting the sport next year, I think is what I would say, all right?
Starting point is 01:09:44 Are we identifying Strickland as one of the two you wouldn't mind seeing? Strickland is one that you might want to get back because I think Izzy, you know, if you go look at his physique in that fight, he wasn't super dialed in and he's kind of admitted without making excuses that mentally he just, for whatever, I forgot, he gave reasons, but he wasn't in it that night. Right. So that's definitely one you could pull on the list. Now the question is, and I know I put it on the White House car,
Starting point is 01:10:05 is partly out of restrictions. If you don't have those restrictions and you're just thinking of fights you can make that would matter to you, especially if you're Izzy as well. Yes. Like what, what can a fourth fight against Poetan?
Starting point is 01:10:20 Settle the rivalry at 205. Just just imagine if Poetan loses Donkolaev in the rematch. And then you're like, okay, he's probably going to go to heavyweight. But before that, potentially even on the White House lawn, could you do? Would Izzy want it, considering, is he's coming off of one of the most amazing redemptive knockouts ever, regaining his title, coming off of in their rivalry.
Starting point is 01:10:41 I mean, regaining his title by knocking Pereira out. Even though we think Pereira is in better form, and this would be at a weight class that would favor him, is that a fight the UFC should want if Pereira loses to Angola. If Pereira loses to Ancalive, I think it takes on some new life. But if he recaptures the title, then it's, I don't think there's really much to it. Okay. What I will say is you're kind of sleeping on the other one that I think could work,
Starting point is 01:11:03 not because it's super big, but it's big enough. And again, what would Izzy want in that case? You could do the Blahovic rematch as well. Kind of get one of those. You say that. I actually, dude, sorry. Wouldn't you rather do Whitaker 3 than that? No.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I don't have any interest in seeing that. Here's the interesting part for me. If you look at the fight between Izzy and Strickland and then Izzy and Blahovic, the one with Blahovic is actually a little more interesting to me. Now, that's not true. in terms of the storyline for the Strickland fight and how Strickland had one of his best performances. It's not true in that case. Like that one had a much bigger impact, in part because it wasn't in the middle of the pandemic.
Starting point is 01:11:44 And also, you know, that was a huge win for Sean and very surprising to a lot of people, including you and me. So there's that. Yes, you could do another Whitaker fight, but honestly, like, he's kind of buried the hatchet with Robert. I don't know if he wants to get back in that mindset. You're right. You're right. The Poetan one, I could be, I think he could be talked into because it's, It's 205. All right, what about MVP?
Starting point is 01:12:05 I know they're friends, but Michael Venom Page. I think that's off the table. Camaro Usman and a fun meet in the middle. I think that's off the table, too. To your point, these are actually the more interesting ones, but they're off the table due to some of his, I think, allegiances, whereas I do believe the Blahovitch fight, and I certainly think the Strickland fight feels like a no-brainer,
Starting point is 01:12:22 but the Blahovic one could be kind of interesting too. And no DDP rematch. I mean, DDP is going to be in a not probably coming off of the title loss. He's going to be in a big fight that could get him back in. to the title. Yeah, I couldn't rule it out. I just don't find that to be the likeliest. They seem to be going in different directions. The Barman and Dennis did talk
Starting point is 01:12:41 about the Strickland fight and coach said, I think naturally as a fighter, Izzy wants to get that one back. I think that's just natural. Izzy knows Sean got the better of him. You can't take nothing away from Sean that night. But I think Izzy or us as a team feel that we can definitely put on a better performance against Strickland. But that was his fight. Sean got the
Starting point is 01:12:57 job done and we held the title for a little bit and that was his night. So there you go. Long Island, Luke, do you have anything you want to say about this topic? I want to see him fight Paulo Costa again. I feel like that'll be fun. You need a fun one. That's not horrible.
Starting point is 01:13:11 That is not bad at all. Kobe Covington in Middlewood? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I will say, dude, matchmaking is tough. It's tough generally, and I think it's really tough right now. Shout out to Sean Shelby, Mick Maynard, and then that guy that they hired for that one time when he got to make one fight, no one's ever heard his name again. You know, they'll also hire the, who's the WNBA, either exec or, you know, former player that they hired.
Starting point is 01:13:35 She made a couple of... Really? Yeah. I didn't know anything about that. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, she made a couple of calls, too. I forget her name.
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Starting point is 01:15:25 hey unbelievable unbelievable but yeah also true but unbelievable um there we go hey we got a new segment for you to kill some time. So here's the deal, okay? The premise is very simple. Your boy, B.C., presents Luke, with a number of categories and three options. Luke, when you hear the three options, your job will be to rank them in order
Starting point is 01:15:48 of your most favorite to your least favorite or from best to worst, whatever the category brings and then explain why you did so. Okay. This one's called Arange-a-tois. Oh, you got, you have, Oh, you don't have a specific animation.
Starting point is 01:16:03 I hoped we did, like something racy, but we didn't. No, I faked it. All right, here we go. Here we go. Topic number one, okay? Rate these from best to least in your eyes. Entertaining UFC action fighters. Nate Diaz, Robbie Lawler, and Justin Gachie.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Justin Gachie's one. Might be the number one all time. Yeah, he's one. I'll go, I'll go, Diaz has had some stinkers. I'll go Loller to DS3. D.S. has some that are better than Robbie's. That's true. But I think pound for pound, Justin's number one, among the three you mentioned, certainly. Lawler has some fucking bangers and over the course of many generations. And dude, people, have you ever seen his fight with
Starting point is 01:16:50 Frank Trigg and icon sport? No. Right. This is what I'm talking about. Or knocking out Melvin Manhoof on Strike Force. And then, again, by the way, he got knocked out by Nick Diaz. But, you know, and Triangle by Evan Tanner, but, like, he's not going to, like, Tiki Goshen and Aaron Riley, and then he goes to all these other organizations, then comes back to UFC and goes on another fucking, yeah, dude, it's Robbie. It's Robbie. Did you see Roy McDonald said he would be willing to do a trilogy with Robbie Lawyer at the White House? Please don't. Please don't. Yeah, please don't. I believe that Lawler and Gatchie, however you have them, are one and two in history. If not Nate Diaz, who's just one of many names you can consider, do you have a third in this guy?
Starting point is 01:17:26 Y'all are sleeping on Max a little bit here. Yeah, that's true. You know, I mean... And Gano has some really fun fights, too. Okay, as long as they last. I mean, he's, I think of him a little bit differently. But, you know, Chandler's had, obviously, Eddie Alvarez. These are other names.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Yeah, Porreier, yeah. He hasn't fought as big of names, but you've got to put Terrence McKinney on this list. Like, he's all action. It does. He's a lot of fun. Someone gets finished within a minute. Yeah, but I mean... It's kind of like my...
Starting point is 01:17:53 I don't get me wrong. I really enjoy Terrence in the way he fights. Like, who doesn't. But, like, if we're talking about all-time bangers, the significance of the bout has to weigh more. I think he's on his way though Yeah listen he's Believe me he comes on you're like Don't fucking move you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:18:09 Like this is all right Luke topic two We're six plus years into this morning combat experiment We've had a lot of people running our show behind the scenes All time morning combat producers Rank them from best to worst ability Long Island Luke Jay Aaron or Manich And Manich
Starting point is 01:18:27 I noticed you didn't put the son of Daniel Snyder on there I mean he's a facilitator or a coordinator. He doesn't actually like, you know, produce direct our actual show, does he? I mean, he's the court. A little bit. It should say directors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So one more time, it's say the, say the three again. Long Island Luke. Okay. Jay Aaron. Okay. Manich. Now. Because Minich doesn't like when I use his government name on the air. In two of those three cases, I have a great deal of respect for their abilities. And in one case, I mean, you couldn't tell a difference between that and a colobus monkey slamming his fingers on. to the keyboard. Out of respect for how much he's done for the brand. Because on one level, I kind of see them as having been equivalently useful in the sense
Starting point is 01:19:15 of running the board. Would you say if there's three eras in MK, even though we've had other people like Gaff, we've had Mikey, we've had other people that were in that role. But in terms of like the live studio shows, these three have almost had their own eras, right? That's why I chose them. I guess. I've never really thought of it.
Starting point is 01:19:31 those terms, but you might be right. I'll go Long Island, Luke, one. Ooh. Yeah, I got to go one. Got to go one. I mean, he's done a lot for us. Been here for through some interesting and transit transitory times. Mnich is, I think we would all agree, a symbol of excellence. Solid. I mean, you can't. If he's, let me explain something to you. If Mnich is the guy running your broadcast, you're going to have a good day. Yeah. You're going to have a good day. I can just say that without any hesitation. Now, by contrast, if Jay Aaron is on your broadcast, your microphones aren't going to work
Starting point is 01:20:03 YouTube is going to go in and out and then the number one thing he's going to do when the broadcast is over and you're like, yo, what the fuck happened? He's not going to accept responsibility ever, ever. Yeah, thank you very much. Meanwhile, if it doesn't happen often.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And he'll have a new single out at the same time. Meanwhile, he'll be like, can I plug my new single where I further embarrass myself? Meanwhile, if something happens bad on a him in each broadcast, which is rare, very rare, he will take responsibility for it. Jay Aaron will literally set shit on fire and be like,
Starting point is 01:20:39 it wasn't me. I don't even know what this is. We even caught you on camera. He's shaggy. It wasn't me. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We got you on video banging on the bathroom floor. It wasn't me. That's Jay Aaron. All right. Arangatois number three. Coolest Star Wars
Starting point is 01:20:55 characters. I'm interested in this one. All right. Why Gonjin? A fucking loser-ass bitch. No, he's not. Kylo Wren Another loser-ass bitch In General Grievous The motherfucker who's got like diabetes or whatever He's got like eight arms with lightsabers
Starting point is 01:21:09 Like that guy And he coughed and shit He's kind of a badass though But he did die of COVID I think I think he vaped too much Yeah he got COVID He croaked
Starting point is 01:21:21 Um Okay Okay I'll hold on here General Grievous Kylo Ren and Quygon gin. That better not be your order.
Starting point is 01:21:32 No, no, no, I'm just going through. I'm expected to put Quigon Jin first, and I want everyone to know, Quigon Jin is one of the biggest morons in the entire Star Wars universe. He banged Shmi Skywalker, Anakin's mom. You know he, that's the only reason why they stayed that extra day there, okay? Schmast. He died, didn't he? No, he died
Starting point is 01:21:54 spectacularly against... Darth Mall. First of all, Darth, Darth, Darth Mall took his shit. Well, it was one on two, by the way, in that fight. because young Obi-Wan was there, too. Speaking of a moranjo, at a while. He wasn't afraid, because we would go on to learn, even though I support the Jedi's. We would go on to learn that Yoda's fastball wasn't always there.
Starting point is 01:22:12 There were blind spots, right? He was willing to defy Yoda because he believed in young Anakin. Or should we hate him for that because he became Darth Vader? Dude, the Jedi's are the biggest failures in the Star Wars universe. The stakes were made, but overall it keeps it all together. possible to overstate how stupid, blind, and what poor decision makers they are. I kind of like that Quigom wasn't always willing to go along with the pack there. Here's the problem.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Kylo Wren is the emo son of the greatest character, certainly the greatest villain anyway, in the Star Wars history. He's the third Menendez brother. He was willing to kill his own father. Dude, we're doing Menendez brothers jokes. Holy shit. We are old. So, you know what?
Starting point is 01:23:00 I don't even think highly of him, but I have no choice. No. General Grievous 1. Oh, wow. Kylo Ren 2. Wow. And bitch-ass, loser, moron, idiot, Quigon Gen 3. I disagree.
Starting point is 01:23:13 I think they're almost, maybe grievous too, but Quigon's got to be number one. Wygon is a fucking moron. He has a particular set of skills. Yeah, and they're called irrational decision-making. Oh, right, all right. Let's go to topic number four on Aran Chautois. Smashable, Femin. countries. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:23:32 Russia, Ireland, and Brazil. Dude, how is this even a question? Brazil is number one and the rest are irrelevant. That's a big L. You just L-Deled on yourself. How did I L picking Brazil? You pick Russia over Brazil?
Starting point is 01:23:47 Every day of the week. Brother. Just say you're gay. It's okay. Just come out and admit you fuck guys. This is a safe. This is a safe space. I didn't put Columbia on there. I didn't put all ones that would be guaranteed for you. First of all, I didn't know you had this.
Starting point is 01:24:01 First of all, let's just be clear. Ireland's an obvious three. All right. Listen. I don't know. See, I have a thing for, I married a woman of largely Irish descent.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Okay, I have a thing. There are exceptions to prove the rule. It's Brazil one, Russia, two, Ireland, three. I mean, Brazil number one with a fucking bullet. Okay, there are times, yes, but not always. Pound for pound?
Starting point is 01:24:21 Is that the argument that we're making? Long now, Luke, can you weigh in on this without losing your point? Brazil's number one. Yeah, I mean, this is the easiest call. All right. I guess we have. I guess different strokes, you know, and I have.
Starting point is 01:24:32 I like women. Okay. That's the difference. All right. Number five on Aranjotwa, probable conspiracy theories. Hamzatimayev's weight miss versus Neh Diaz that rearranged the card. 9-11 and the Apollo land moving. Now, when you're asking me, probable, so we're asking which of these are the most probable?
Starting point is 01:24:53 Most to least probable. Okay. Moon landing is last. So you think it happened? Yes, I do think of that. You really believe that they landed on the moon, and it was not a studio in Hollywood? I don't believe that the evidence that I've reviewed
Starting point is 01:25:08 about there being a studio... I thought that's going to be your number one, dude. As most probable? No, it's the least probable. We definitely landed on the moon. Okay. Well, not you and me, but... Yeah, okay. All right, so that's three.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Now, what is the conspiracy theory of 9-11? So I'm actually... So I know what the Apollo moon landing is. You know, I'm not sure Jetfield can bend those steel beams. So I know the moon landing is that it was faked. Hamsat Shimaevna-Diaz, they... Was that they decided to potentially save the third-coner fight. Let's not let him get smashed there.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Let's just flip it. Okay. But they would have had to tell Hamsat to miss weight. So you're saying I agree that that was a decision that they all made. And the 9-11 one is it's an inside job? Yes. Okay. I'll put that number one.
Starting point is 01:25:56 I mean, I'm not saying it's true. I'm just being forced to rank. Probability, yes, yes. Yeah, I'm forced to make a choice here. I'll put that one. I'll put Chimae of Diaz as two, although that could probably be number one. And definitely moon landing three.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Definitely moving. Wow. Long on, Luke, you going with that same order? Chimae of Diaz won. Yeah, I mean, I might regret that call. That might be the better one. It's the last episode anyway, so don't worry about it. Number six, preferred cannabis consumption.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Oh. bong, edibles, and spliffs. When you say spliff, you just mean like a joint, right? Yes, all right. I don't know if you meant something else, but. Okay. The answer is, now you got to talk about the downsides of each. Yeah, you're ready.
Starting point is 01:26:40 All right, the bong, again, where are you going to blow the smoke? Are you going to do it inside the house or outside the house? And you've got to get rid of that bong water because if it spills in the carpet, it fucking reeks. It's a whole thing, all right? You don't clean bong water if you spill it? I mean, you know, I haven't been an active bong user since 2003. so I'm not, you know. Edibles. Edibles to me are the, I had a doctor explained, obviously, sort of intuitively tracks, but that is by far the best way to administer for health wise. For health. For health, yes. The problem is dosing can be a little bit off. Sure. And get a weight on it. You got a weight on it. Sometimes it's hard to regulate the dosing and the timing. And then the spliffs are the easiest, but it's not great for you. You can smell like it. You can smell like it preferred is the way you put it. So this is for me.
Starting point is 01:27:27 This is just you. Bong one, edibles two, spliff three. If you had said, like, you know, what's the most convenient? I'm putting probably spliffs or edibles number one. You're going to get the highest off of the bong without question. But the bong, pound for pound. Yes. It's going to set you off right.
Starting point is 01:27:43 I mean, long out, look, the spliff option, there's a lot of wasted smoke. You got to be honest there. No, it's all right. I mean, bong is obviously number one. Edibles, I'm going to go number three, though, because I've never really felt edibles. I've taken a lot of mill of them. Oh, motherfucker. God, okay.
Starting point is 01:27:55 I will put you on your ass. I get impatient and I end up taking a bong hit or I fall asleep and I, you know, I just never get there. Dude, I have had some edibles that have sent me around the fucking universe. Long flights. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. All right, we got one more for your seventh and final orange au revoir. This is most to least embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Embarrassing MMA catastrophes, the New Year's Eve Power Slap, just the Incitious Daily Double or the Gringo Poppy Comedy Special. look at me most embarrassing is the least embarrassing it's no not the camera it's not my that's not my opinion it's yours you farted in the elevator and now you won't sit here and own it you can't make me do this i'm not going to do this if you think one is the least embarrassing then you just rank it that way okay what is the new year's power slap like that event Dana but that's wife oh Mexico oh gee okay that's a clear number one That was international fucking headlines.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Be serious. It did go away quick, though. It did go away quick. You got to say that. Okay, that's true. Okay, that's true. It did go away quick. When people say Justin Kish, what do you think of? Yeah, there's a little bit of, you know.
Starting point is 01:29:11 When people say shop, what do you think? The Vendai friend. Very true. Top 10 heavyweight. Fucking hater. Knocked on Mirko Krocob. What have you done with your life? See you fullback, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Beast of a dead. What have you done with your life? Gives away trucks. I would actually go in the order that you put it. I would put Power Slap One. Kish's Daily Double, I agree. That's a little bit of an inside thing. There's something relatable about number two, though.
Starting point is 01:29:37 I mean, who does number two work for? But the thing about it is, you're trying to shit on Brendan Scha, which is a little annoying that you do it so aggressively. I don't know. However, I let it go because it's a, you know, it's a show. But it's not even that. You've got MMA catastrophes. Well, I guess the first one doesn't qualify either because that wasn't that wasn't MMA-related
Starting point is 01:29:55 specifically, right? It was the biggest face in the in the May. Yeah, I'll go in the order that you have it. Okay. And also, fuck you for putting that on there. That was Orange d'Otois. Will it ever be seen again on the show? I think it's got some promise, actually.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Oh, wow. Yeah, I think he's got some promise. I don't mind that one, actually. Long Island, look, can we update where we're at on this vote right now? Yeah, let's see. I would suspect you're winning. 523 votes. We got an even 70% for BC, 30% for them.
Starting point is 01:30:22 That sounds about right. Yeah. All right. We'll see at the end of the show. conventional one, but I also, I want to say I had to handicap, which was I could not use as many criminals, and as a consequence, it's severely limited
Starting point is 01:30:33 what I could pick. Does it be clear about that? I mean, I could have picked some. My favorite criminals, Fiona Apple, by the way. My best friend has had a crush on her for 20 years, and I've never understood it. I don't think you like white women. I could. Not when they look
Starting point is 01:30:49 like they haven't eaten in a week. That's fair. This is the next segment where you, the fans, get your voice heard every Sunday at Morning Combat on X, on Instagram, you know the deal. We put out a opportunity for you to ask questions, but you better come original. This one's called the ams from the donks. All entertainers come original.
Starting point is 01:31:11 You're better come original. You're better come original. All right. Let's see what you got. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything as a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship.
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Starting point is 01:31:58 So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way. And we're hoping to, you know, make it run. So listen to, in case you missed it with Christina Williams and IHeart women sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on IHartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This first one's from at Von Beck, Cal. when are your both you dicks top three goat referees?
Starting point is 01:32:27 I'm assuming he's asking he or she who are our top three referees in MMA history in terms of goats or the goat refs. I mean, Big John's probably. Big John's got to be there. And he was a very good ref too, right? I mean, that's why you keep that job for that long. Everyone's going to point out mistakes that one or the other made, but I think in general pretty good. Both of us got to say Josh Rosenthal.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Not only did he let Carwin Lesner become what it became, he went to prison for, for moving Nate Newland levels of weed. Josh Rosenthal is one of the most underrated referees. He was very good. So I'm putting him on there. Are you going like Herb Dean? Are you going Mark Goddard? Herb Dean is certainly one of the biggest names.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Who's the guy, Jason Herzog? Here's the thing. People forget, like, Herb Dean, listen, he might make calls you like and might make calls you don't like. But early in his run, he had a series of calls that were extremely good. Namely, for example, when Frank Meir broke Tim Sylvia's arm, but he didn't break it at the joint. broke it in the middle of his arm and and Tim Sylvia didn't care and kept fighting and
Starting point is 01:33:26 it was her who stopped it but if we're talking about like skill Mark Goddard's pretty solid I think Goddard's on that list her dogs up there who are we forgetting Mario Yamazaki who's the guy you love who took the point from Juliana Pena New York oh that newest guy oh Vitor Sheldon Hebero but he's famous because of what he did as a fighter and a jujitsu athlete. Well, I was going to say, speaking of what they did as a fighter, Frank Trigg, we got to throw in here. And he's been a pretty decent referee. Yeah, he just got licensed, I think, in Nevada, right? Dude, in boxing,
Starting point is 01:33:59 I'm going, Steve Smoger, my favorite. RIP, Hall of Famer. Mills Lane, the judge, right? And I was always a huge Robert, what's his name? He's in the Hall of Fame. Robert, Robert Bird. Actually, he's, he's... She was judging XFC on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:34:17 It's Adelaide's husband, but she was? She was fucking judging. Did she have it 1-18-110 Canello? I saw her, I was like, holy shit, she's still fucking judging. I mean, I love, dude, first of all, Smogers is a character and he's the best action fight referee ever. I always thought that. Larry Weeks was there, too, by the way.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Tony Weeks was there, too, man. Tony Weeks could be my top three, too, man. I mean, he's had some stinkers, too, but he's had Corales because he always had a million great moments. He was the one that stopped that fight between Barroso and, um, what's his face? Roley? Roley. And it was one of the worst stoppages I've ever fucking seen. All right, let's see what we got.
Starting point is 01:34:50 next from the fans here at Tori O'Neill what is the best quote beat them at their own game moment in MMA oh I like this Gabriel Gonzaga head kicking Merco Cropop or Fluffy Hernandez subbing Odolfo Vieira
Starting point is 01:35:04 are the first ones to stick out to me so you're beating somebody at what they do best in this particular case he's asking for more than this beating them with what they do best yeah but in this particular case those two he put the they're both good choices the Gonzaga one is much bigger That's the go-to.
Starting point is 01:35:20 It has to be the good thing. Because Miracle was a huge star. He was a big acquisition for the promotion. And Gabriel, I got to tell you, he was not thought of as the guy that was going to give, maybe on the ground. He could give Crow-Cop some problems. And then he fucking head kicked him. The other one would be a little bit of Kevin Randleman knocking out Mirro Crocop.
Starting point is 01:35:37 It didn't happen with the kick. That's why Gonzaga is a little bit bigger. But him doing that in pride was a huge, huge upset at that time. Yeah. Let me think. What's a great example of, what do you think? two kind of recent title fights how about Yuri subbing Glover
Starting point is 01:35:54 no one thought Yuri was gonna fucking sub-gover I mean it was at the end of a fifth round of a wild ass fight and then you could argue I guess Strickland over Izzy like if you if I told you that fight was gonna stay standing for 25 minutes
Starting point is 01:36:06 you would think Izzy would win that uh yeah what about GSP I mean taking down John Fitch and beating him up I was taking out everyone beating him up like it was a big he did that to all kinds BJ Penn taking him to the ground it's a real question from a real fan right
Starting point is 01:36:19 That's a great, that's actually a really great, like, who beat him at their own game. I feel like Woodley for a stretch was purposely aiming in the direction of what's your skill. I'll beat you. I'll do it better than you and I'll beat you. Yeah, there's not many guys who can do that because now, to be really good, you've got to be kind of lopsided. I guess Woodley really would just try to take away that one thing. I don't know, you can argue. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, here's the thing. Like, there was definitely, you know, GSP would, yes, he was trying to position himself to his strengths.
Starting point is 01:36:44 But sometimes that meant going through theirs to do it. Yeah, it's a good question. It's a great question. I hope you give a better answer. What else we got here? From at lowercase three, if Luke had to take four to five current or retired MMA fighters and add them to the commanders.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Oh, who would he pick? I could see Aspinall being a monster off the edge on defense. Did you see your coach got trucked by the quarterback? Yeah, Marcus Marrietta just ran right into him. He stayed on the sidelines with a blood of Dan Quinn. I don't know. Former Falcons. He was the guy.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Remember when the Falcons went up 28 to 3? Oh, you're right. That was that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, definitely picking Big Tom, right? Definitely picking Big Tom. And that's about it. I mean, you're not going to put Brock Lesner at nose title, no, he's not available.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Also, he's in his 40s. He couldn't make an NFL team in his prime. Greg Hardy, linebacker. All right, which actual, I mean, you'd probably, I was going to say you'd favor heavyweights, but it doesn't have to be. It could be somebody super athletic that could play a skill position. Jose Aldo a kicker Yes
Starting point is 01:37:52 That's that's that's that's that's that's that's crazy Mohammed Usman at right guard probably I guess Who in the UFC at all has any NFL background currently Dominic Reyes Played cornerback for Stony Brook Division I And I think he was on a couple of practice squads Eric Uboy Anders also dude
Starting point is 01:38:11 Brendan Shob had a cup of coffee in the NFL I know but he's in his 40s now Okay I'm just speaking facts sorry I'm trying Turn back your anger at that segment we said, you know. I don't have any anger. I'm just teasing. Can I make jokes on here without people thinking I'm like enraged with fucking. Probably not.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Jesus Christ, settle down everybody. It's just for fun. I don't know how to answer this one because, dude, the NFL players are fucking enormous. Did you see the video? You've been not seen a long outlook. Do you see the video of Patty meeting? I think it was someone on the Vikings. Did you see this?
Starting point is 01:38:42 No? So this dude is like one of the biggest guys in the NFL. He's like six, eight and like three, seven. I mean, an absolute, and you get the video, the video is funny because Patty meets him and like the entire time in his Scouts or accent is like, I didn't know they made humans this size. Like, he can't fucking believe it. You just don't have enough athletes to send over like that, do you? No, no. They're spent, I mean, how tall is Joaquin Buckley?
Starting point is 01:39:08 Did he play a skill position? No, he's short. I mean, he's stout, but he's short. He's short. Interesting. I mean, Reyes has the background. I'm trying to think of who else says like a. a pretty high level football back.
Starting point is 01:39:19 I mean, dude, we're talking about the days, seriously, Brendan Schaub or Kane, Alaska? Eric Anders played linebacker for what, Alabama? Alabama. No, yeah, Alabama, yeah, Alabama, yeah. Because I was, I used to interview him. OSP played the end, right, for Tennessee, was it? OSP?
Starting point is 01:39:33 Yeah, but dude, again, where is he? He's like late 30s, early 40s. I don't even know where either. I'm trying to answer the question. I don't think you can. I don't think you can do it. Okay. Now, if I can draft around,
Starting point is 01:39:43 I might take me a little bit of Henan Fahara. I might take me a little Anatoly Malikin. little fucking, you know, he could play a little free safety, right? You know, go and just smashing people. But if I got to pick UFC, I'm kind of limited. That's true. That's true. All right, let's see what else we got here. From at v. Sanchez underscore 88.
Starting point is 01:39:59 What fights M.M.A. or boxing are you most looking forward to for the remainder of the year. Dennis from Submission Radio asked me this when I was on with Long Island Luke. And I said boxing wise, even though it's not like crazy marquee big, I cannot wait for that November Devin Haney, Brian Norman Jr. fight. Like, that's a real ass fight. I am ready for that fight. Like, let's go. Are there any super fights on the horizon,
Starting point is 01:40:22 and I'm not talking Jake Paul and Tank Davis? Around January, they're trying to make that Teo versus Shakur fight, which will be big. That's big. Okay, that is big. What else we got? Oh, yeah. So early next year, they want to make Inouay versus Nakatani.
Starting point is 01:40:39 That would be really big. That would be really big. Is there anything on the calendar that's le? I mean, I love this MSG card so much. I cannot wait for it. Islam JDM. That is a bad ass fight. Yeah, that's a huge one. With, with, uh, Whaley versus Valentina on the Colman. Also big. Yep. Um, probably, I mean, I, I don't think mine are going to be too dissimilar from yours. I guess I'm more just waiting to see like how they're going to make that white house card. And again,
Starting point is 01:41:03 not just how they make that, but how they make everything around it. Yes. Because it really will just tell you what is available. And I don't know. So that same November turkey card, uh, ring magazine card that, um, Haney's going to be in the co-made event. You're going to get. David Benavina is in the main event. Artur Better Beavre in the little bit further down on the card. And some are wondering, right? Either of them could fight Beval next for all we know. But I saw Max Kellerman on that new ring show that he has talking about,
Starting point is 01:41:28 like, if they did Better Beav versus Benavita's early next year, that it could be one of the most violent savage fights we have ever seen about it. That is true. Could you imagine how exciting that fight would be like tremendous? Yes. That would be, if they put that one on the calendar, that's my number one. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:44 But I feel like right now, I can see some things coming but as it stands we're answering the question today we don't really have a lot we've got some things on the calendar but not a ton yeah yeah that's fair
Starting point is 01:41:56 along on Luke what MMA fight is is tickling your fancy it's got to be JDM Islam yeah let's go let's get that thing let's get it do we have any more of these questions from the fanatics at MT Booble
Starting point is 01:42:06 you can book any three artists or band oh yeah any three artists or bands from any point in history for one singular concert who opens who's the feature who's the headline wow what a question that is great you go first all right I'm opening era I'm opening with 1982 Van Halen all right Panama I mean they're just they'll just they'll just kill they'll kill they'll
Starting point is 01:42:36 absolutely kill yeah they'll slay I will go radio head at number two and give it to me on the on the kid A tour it to me like radio head from 2000 and then i'm going the jimmy hendrish experience to close and i'll take it uh i'll take it i'll take it anyway i can get it okay that's about a four-year window so any point during that stretch man i'm gonna just gonna make my i'm gonna act like i'm the audience for this okay i'm not gonna make a concert that i'm trying to sell tickets to okay all right i'm gonna do the turkey thing making it for me yeah all right all right so he is h i am we know this.
Starting point is 01:43:17 My headliner, you're going to laugh at me. As soon as you said it, I knew exactly what I wanted to do for my headliner. Thank you. No. Stevie Ray Vaughn, I would go as my, like, my headliner. Yeah, dude, Steve Ray Vaughn is special. Dude, and he, I mean, obviously I've never seen him, but seeing videos, him live is just tears.
Starting point is 01:43:34 I know, I have a friend of mine, he's older than me. He's in his late or mid-50s. He saw SRV play before he died. And I was like, what was that like? And he was like, fucking insanity like religious experience yes okay so that I'm gonna go that one's my great pick for my for my for my co-main or whatever the fuck that we're calling it the not the headline feature or whatever I'm gonna go I was thinking like first tour guns and roses no no I've seen guns and roses a bunch I don't have any
Starting point is 01:44:09 desire about when they were young like when they had it honestly I'm gonna go prime you're gonna laugh at this because it doesn't match okay it doesn't match at all i'm gonna go prime tupac wow yeah i'm gonna go prime twopac right wow wow wow i mean come on now if we're dreaming let's dream okay okay i thought you can go apathy or no no and then my opener now that's the tough one that's the one i'm having a little bit of trouble with but you know what i think i know what i'm going to say it's again i'm not making a concert to sell tickets to i'm probably going to go prime so let's say what 95 95
Starting point is 01:44:46 Allison Chains That would not be bad at all That would be so badass I don't think that's the worst show I've ever seen You know Long Island Luke you want Pearl Jam on the Tentor or what So I was gonna leave Pearl Jam out Just because I've seen them
Starting point is 01:44:59 I was going more people I've never seen I was also gonna do Alice and Chains Like pre-lane Oh yeah I was going to do Not Sound Garden but Temple of the Dog Pre Chris Cornell Fuck Temple of the dog
Starting point is 01:45:10 No no fuck you I don't mind I was going to say, Rage, because I've never seen Rage. I've seen Rage twice. Yeah, I've seen Rage twice. To me, it's more about seeing a band like at their absolute apex or, you know, I mean, like, if you said, I saw Raged in 2000. If you're like Zeppelin in 72, your face would be peeled off. I mean, it'd be insane.
Starting point is 01:45:32 And what was the last one? I was going to say, when you said Tupac, I got thinking and I was like, you know what? I would see Biggie, probably. I would see Biggie, too. Hey, great questions today. Yeah, those are pretty good. M.T. Booble. That's it, right, Long Island?
Starting point is 01:45:43 Yeah, that's it. All right. We've got one more segment for you. It's where we pick through the kernels of my fecal material to find the best. I don't like it when you say that. Okay, I'm sorry. We scour the internet for the highs and lows. Because I actually like this segment, but I hate that.
Starting point is 01:45:56 The good, the bad, the ugly, the in-between, to try to make this rock of a man move emotionally. This one's called, have you seen this year? breaking news. Small bit. Diego Lopez has thrown his hat in the ring to fight Charles Levera in October. Oh, wow. Up at 55. That's a little ballsy right there. I saw him. He was at the event on Saturday. I saw him. Oh, God, I would love to see something kind of
Starting point is 01:46:28 weird and random like that. Yes, I'd be well into that. Let's go. That's cool, right? Okay. Here's shit time. Turn around. I know his fight only lasted two rounds, but he got kind of hit a lot in that fight. He did get hit a lot, yeah, by the Lord himself. Brock Lesnar returned to the WWE ring for the first time in a while. or Saturday at age 48 at Russell Paloosa. Luke, he was juice to the
Starting point is 01:46:50 damn gills. This is HGH and Filet Mignon over and over and over again. And you know what? You know how mad I am at this? Not at all. I mean, zero. And he squashed John Cena there in that first PLE and the ESPN era. Why is he still wearing the MMA gloves? I don't quite get that part. Why is he still wearing the penis sword? Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Yeah, it's part of the gimmick. But Luke, like, please put that back up. Yeah, first of all, you remember. Do you remember when he took the shirt off? Mount Rushmore Team Titties, Mount Rushmore. Oh, my God, first team all, yeah, yeah. When he took the shirt off at UFC 200, when we hadn't seen him fight in years. And he went, like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:47:26 This almost reminds me of that. It's a little bit different, but to see the abs that big. Yeah, I'm now, I don't know why he's got seven haircuts, but everything else looks, I mean, God bless him, right? That is, that's the, that's the, that's the American. Did I see on Twitter? He beat John Sina. He beat the shit out of him.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Is that significant? Well, yes. In some ways, it's like a repeat of their first 2014 SummerSlam when they famously had a match where Brock just beat the shit out of him in less than a couple of minutes. People were upset because this is part of John Cena's retirement tour. So a lot of people were happy to see him and then Brock just rolled over him. But it's to tell a longer story. I think a lot of people are actually upset about this pay-per-view because it felt very, I'm hearing secondhand. It felt very corporate. It felt very...
Starting point is 01:48:08 Well, that's where we are. We're at right now. Hey, let's check in on the subway system. so much for gun control, Luke Yeah, yeah, this is That's an everyday ride on the New York City subway, is it not? Well, people tend to smell on the subway, so there is a way to fix that. Bro.
Starting point is 01:48:31 This is how, oh, she hit him a little bit too. Dude, imagine just having the balls to be the arbiter of justice on the subway be like, no, you smell here. Bro, that is, that's some shit you see in like high school. Yeah, that was great. You're asking, how do fights start on the subway? Exactly. I want to see a new boxing combination?
Starting point is 01:48:47 Watch this. Ah, uh-huh. Dude, you meet some dogs and their tails whack you. It's insane. It's insane how much it hurts, yes. It was homecoming time for Terrence, Bud, Crawford, and Nebraska, leading the cornhuskers out at Memorial Stadium against. him against Michigan, dude. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Remember, man, there's no fucking pro sports team here. Like, the Huskers are the dudes. Dude, they'm giving him one, six, eight is his number. I love that. They did? That's the way's weird in his jersey. Dude, I didn't even notice. I wasn't even paying attention.
Starting point is 01:49:24 Wow. Dude, that is so badass that they embraced him this much. Remember, they updated the Nebraska Cornhuskers Twitter account after the fight with his picture. Dude, that is good for him. Well, it continued. Here is Bud getting the crowd fired up by hitting that. That's me at the hotel room when I first get there after getting off the flame.
Starting point is 01:49:40 And that's me when I'm done. Memorial Stadium also used this image of bud from the fight to try to distract the Michigan kicker. And it would work because Nebraska would win the game. That's pretty awesome right there. Someone posted the video of the other day when he was like beating up Spence. I think it was like the second time he knocked him down. He looked over at Charlo and he's like, you're next. Dude, you realize he would have smoked Charlo, right?
Starting point is 01:50:03 He would have fucking smoked him. Bonus Bud footage. Here's his dancing skills at the Indiana Boxing Hall of him. What do you think about this? you know what did he smash she wanted god bless him
Starting point is 01:50:16 well done but are all the videos today without any sound or just the 99% of them let's go to Australian boxing from over the weekend this is from the way and check the attire on this fellow okay all right I mean and you're zooming in
Starting point is 01:50:30 did they pull this guy is that the unabomber did they pull him from they pull him from the maximum security prison is it? Thong, thong, thong, thong. Amazing stuff. Speaking of college football, Luke, watch these names on the sideline. I know this is an old clip, but that is fantastic, right? I met a few. Yes, you have. There you go. Let's go to Coach Lane Kiffin, throwing the alley-oop on the sideline. I love this stuff. After a big play, they get to do this.
Starting point is 01:50:59 Where does he, who does he coach, Old Miss? Yeah. Oh, that's sick. Is that Old Miss? Yeah, that is, right? I'm into that kind of stuff. Shout out to that. Let's go to Michael Irvin hitting the siren at the Miami game Once again, this is me off the burn at the hotel Look, he did this until he was dripping sweat Dude, he gets after it down there. That's BC behind me watching me do it.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Oh, Luke, you ever... Dude, Michael Irving, you know what was funny? I got my haircut the other day, right? Yeah. And I was in the barbershop and he had the, I think it's an NFL film's documentary playing. Do you remember when Michael Irving got caught in that hotel with the women and the drugs? It was probably the Netflix documentary about the Jerry Jones Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Maybe that's what it was. I don't remember. But I, dude, I was, I guess I don't know, was that like 95? It was, yeah, it was after they won the third Super Bowl in four years. It was like during that off season and it was kind of like the beginning of the end for that guys. I memory hold the whole thing. So I was sitting there watching that being like, dude, this fucking guy has been. He got so lucky he didn't go to jail when they put, dude, they gave him a sweetheart deal.
Starting point is 01:52:04 They did. He's had half of Columbia up his nose. Yes. For 20, 30 years. They had that White House where they just, like, did ridiculous drug. It's insane. Yeah, okay. Oh, look, you know that saying one man's trash is another man's treasure?
Starting point is 01:52:16 Yeah. I mean, this guy. This dude just absolutely annihilated his hog. My goodness. My goodness. We had to use all of these planks here to wedge himself on. This chair is done. Bro, can you imagine if you put that under, like, blacklight?
Starting point is 01:52:42 You know what they were? Standard. Good swivel. Wow. Speaking of the Cowboys, Luke, here's one of their super fans. Is this cool or lame? Your choice? I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 01:53:01 People are going to hate. I actually kind of dig it. I actually kind of dig it. You can buy those things. I see them advertised on tick. talk all the time. It's time for MMA fighters in the wild
Starting point is 01:53:10 and here is Marab de Valishvili watching the UFC card finding out in real time during the way in that Kelvin Gastileam did not meet the middle weight limit. Does he missed weight? I love Marab, I really do.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Dude, that got... Like, Marab is always happy, right? Or it seems that way, in the way. But... And I'm not saying he plays a character, but he loves to be, you know, involved in social. But it looked like to me, like he was kind of so caught off guard by that.
Starting point is 01:54:06 Yes. That the laugh just took him, you know what I mean? Do you see Ray Longo said on the Anakiflorian pod that he thinks Kelvin Gaston legit has like eating an eating disorder? I did see that. And I honestly, I'm not, I don't know what the truth is, but like, how could you even rule that out? I should have put Gastelamata on you two on my White House card.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Yeah. And that's not the worst call. Let's continue in the wild. This week in UFC race relations. Here's your middleweight champion Hamzot Chamaev. Now, in fairness, like the first like three of these guys were black. Oh, boy. Which is real bad.
Starting point is 01:54:39 However, it is worth pointing out, like, once you get past the black guys, it just becomes not black guys anymore. Well, I can tell you it's not racist because of his follow-up tweet here. Monkeys, men's not referring black men. I'm talking about these people who are in the video. Well, it just so happens a lot. What are we doing here? In fairness to him, there's a bunch of whites in there, too.
Starting point is 01:54:59 All right. Michael Bispings in there. I forget who else, but let's go to Diego Lopez backstage after his most recent victory. He just vomited. Yeah, he drank too much gatoria. Don't know. Okay, here we go. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:55:25 We got the point. Thank you. That looks like the New York City subway. Yeah, that was something right there. All right. He looked fine on Saturday. He was there. Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:32 By the way, a bunch of people mobbed him. He said yes to everybody. That's wonderful. people always watching the show like, man, BC's so gross, you blah, blah, blah. You know, I grew up in the 90s with 90s TV. They don't understand. They don't understand. Let's go to the Ricky Lake show.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Mike, and the lower third says, wants to tell his Valentine crush she has, quote, bodacious, bizongas. Dude, this is the most 90s thing I've ever seen in my life. From Springer, to the NWO to DGeneration X. Yes. Like that is, you want, what were the 90s like? Baywatch. That they watching this. Okay, that was the 90s. MTV Spring Break with like ridiculous things going on.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Just people dancing for hours on TV. You still watch as a family. That's why I was raised apparently. Wow, really? My mom went down to, this is a true story. My mom went down to the cable company's office and demanded they block MTV in our house. That is insane. Yeah, that's a true story. It's time for another round of Would You Eat? We've seen something similar to this before, but they call it the McDonald's Burrito. Would You Eat, Luke?
Starting point is 01:56:36 Look at that fucking loser Who's eating? Look at that fat Dave Grohl, right? This is diabetic Dave Grohl. Get this fucking mongrel off my face. Dude, you would eat that. Come on. I would not eat that. That's kind of gross.
Starting point is 01:56:57 I would try that in a second. Do you know who you are? Yeah, I have a black liver. Part of a society right here. Okay, thank you. Let's go to our next one. would you eat? Peanut butter or Oreos.
Starting point is 01:57:09 That's a yes. That's not controversial. That's a yes. Okay. I'm into that too. I'm into that too. I'll do that. And finally, combining two of my favorite foods, here's pizza with baked beans.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Oh, get this British bullshit ass. Okay. With the ketchup. You're a fucking. I'll say this is not ideal, but would I try this? One million percent. Is this what they're serving people in fucking prison? I would try it in prison.
Starting point is 01:57:31 I would go to prison to try it. That's what I'm saying. I mean, if your food is worse than what you can get in an MRI. your food is the word i mean dude they eat dog food in england i don't know have you ever put ketchup and baked beans on hot dog because that's my preferred method um okay the answer is yes but also having mustard and then some other stuff on there so yes yes all right let's watch this kick save and a beauty very relatable thing here watch this guy oh okay all right shouts of his life, by the way, and he got it on camera.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Why don't you keep touching that dirty-ass handle to the door to that fucking trash can? Did you see that catch at the Mets game yesterday? I don't even know who they were playing. It was the other team. The center field that went back. It tipped off his glove. Oh, he caught off his foot, yes. He kicked it up in the air and caught it.
Starting point is 01:58:20 I did see that, yes. Fantastic. That was pretty amazing. All right, this weekend, marriage affirmations. Marry a guy who says things like, I'm proud of you. I can't believe you're mine. You're right. I was wrong.
Starting point is 01:58:31 You can do it, baby. And two planes can't cause three buildings to collapse at free fall speed. What you're looking for in a man, apparently. All right, let's go to the bar. You never know what's going to happen sometimes at the bars. Things break out, all right? Oh, watch out. Coming through.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Hindstales are here. Where was this? I don't know. That's wild, though. Whatever that was, that's the most interesting thing that's ever happened in that place. in the history of that place. Luke, you ever hear
Starting point is 01:59:09 what happened to Meredith? Watch this. This shock it, Meredith? To my mom. This is... Fuck!
Starting point is 01:59:22 I'll never walk again, but that was an interesting clip, Luke, wow. Dude, her leg turned into fucking spaghetti. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:59:32 that was bad. That was really bad. How do you knee bar yourself with cement? I don't know. She figured it out. Luke, do you know that this superstar of the segment has a name
Starting point is 01:59:40 and her name is Celine? It's Cake Lady Time. Oh, my God. What's up with this bitch? We're hitting outside, Luke, look at that. Yeah, just eat that shit. Just eat just eat that fault. Yeah, well, yeah, I eat that chalk. Oh, look at that phallic chalk. Yeah, here we go. That's great. Are you ever not weird on camera? That's
Starting point is 01:59:56 my question. Oh, yeah, cut that cake into the fucking yell. Why don't you eat some chlorine, you disgusting witch? Well, that's coming next, Luke. Watch this. It's not water after all. Oh, dude. She's a witch. From another demand. Oh, yeah. Oh!
Starting point is 02:00:12 Stop! Keep it going, Celine. Here we go, Luke. Yeah, you fucking primate. Why don't you, yeah, why don't you eat that? You disgusting, absolute voodoo witch. Dude, when she ate the sun tan lotion bottle, I had enough. That was enough for me.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Luke, when you considered dressing today for the show, did it cross your mind, jack it on or jack it off? I know where you're going. No, what do you mean? Let's see. It sounds better. Jacket on. Or jack it off.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Or jack it off. I'm typically a jacket off kind of guy. It's a little chilly in here. Especially in a hotel room. That's all the shit we can handle this week. It ended strong. It was a little weekend first, but it ended strong. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:01:06 Thank you to Celine. Did that cake lady? Has she ever been normal on camera once in her fucking life? No. I'm going to talk to the microphone and then just eat that motherfucker. Long Island, look, do you think we could get her on the show? I don't know. Isn't she in like Europe?
Starting point is 02:01:19 She's in France. Does she do cameo? Please tell me she does cameo. Oh, that'd be great. We need to get one of her cakes on the show. Wow, listen to this. Fighters removed from the, uh, I didn't. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 02:01:31 No, never mind. Never mind. No, false alarm right here. Uh, that is the show that we, have for you today. Two hours of Fury brought to you by our great friends at Cuervo, Total Wireless, Draft Kings Pick Six, great stuff right there. You can like and subscribe to what we're doing right here. Follow us on our extended YouTube handles, including the main card minutes, Luke Nocita. Main card minute, sir, I believe this week is the championship round of prop quiz, right?
Starting point is 02:01:59 That's correct. You versus Shaq, airing Friday. We'll record it this week. Looking forward to it. 100 bucks on the line. hundred bucks let's go let me get that benjamin all right let's go uh also you can buy an exclusive merch this month for the rest of september go to morningcombat dot shop right now you want to join black liver society you can eat things like that macdonald's wrap or you can get dressed in a luke thomas cracker barrel t-shirt autographed t mn t posters they're available but they won't be here forever go to morning combat dot shop and we are constantly adding evergreen items mix and match your colors outfit your abuela before she passes.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Okay, that's a little strong. It'd be a nice gesture, though. I do agree with that. All right. Anything else I'm plugging here? Oh, yeah, contact the show. Morningcombat at gmail.com. This Friday will be back.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Oh, and big thanks to Saul. Look at this. One more time. Look at this. How cool is that? This is donk of the year activity right here. It really is. That is so freaking cool.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Shout out to the late dime bag, Daryl. Matt Brown at that show, by the way. ages 14 and up i qualify that is perfect right there don't share with tuki i won't uh luke thomas any message you want us give you know uplifting messages to the viewers thank you for watching the show today we really appreciate it we love you all and we'll be back on friday we do have some fights this weekend ufc perth is here that's right and we're got uh the comeback of reyes maybe we'll see let's see so that should be fun maybe you can get that jones rematch you know are there any big fights from boxing this weekend no it's kind of it's kind of kind of kind of kind of
Starting point is 02:03:31 low season again. All right, well, we'll see. All right, that's it. For L-T-L-I-L, oh, yeah, that's it. Ken, we love Ken, right? It's the best. Yeah, he's high. All right, we're out of here.
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