Morning Wire - “Bigger Scandal Than Watergate:” Inside the Senate's Biden Investigation
Episode Date: June 21, 2025We speak with Missouri Senator Eric Schmitt about what he calls a scandal “bigger than Watergate.” He joins us to unpack the Senate’s explosive investigation into President Biden’s cognitive s...tate and the media’s alleged role in concealing it. Get the facts first on Morning Wire. Helix: Go to https://helixsleep.com/wire to get an exclusive discount. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing this week as part of its investigation into
what was really going on behind the scenes during Joe Biden's presidency, among the questions
they're asking, who was really running the country amid the president's cognitive decline,
and were legacy media outlets colluding to cover it up?
In this episode, we sit down with one of the Republican senators heading up the inquiry,
Missouri's Eric Schmidt, to discuss why he and his colleagues believe this isn't just about
holding people accountable for past actions, but insurance.
more transparency in the future.
I'm Daily Wire Executive Editor
John Bickley with Georgia Howl.
It's Saturday, June 21st, and this is a
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Portion of this interview aired earlier this week.
Senator, thank you so much for coming on.
Sure, it could be with you.
So you and Senator Cornyn will be holding judiciary hearings today
and looking into the Biden presidency.
Can you preview today's hearing?
Yeah, I think it's important for the country to understand what was actually going on.
Everybody could see the clear decline of Joe Biden.
The media tried to dismiss it as cheap fakes.
I mean, there was sort of one excuse after another.
Democrats were saying he's sharper than he's ever been.
You had, you know, the left-wing media parroting those talking points, too.
This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever.
It just is really dangerous kind of road to go down, to have the one person,
that's elected by the entire country be mentally incompetent,
it begs the question, who was running the country?
And so our hearing is going to try to tease this out a little bit of, you know,
who knew what, when, what should have been seen,
and then what should have been done about it.
And it's not just looking backwards.
It really is an effort to look forward.
I mean, I chair the Senate, the Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution.
Having a functioning president is actually kind of an important thing in our constitutional order.
And I, for me personally, I mean, I think this scandal's bigger than Watergate, but everybody's very eager to sweep it under the rug.
And I just don't think the American people should accept that.
Yeah, we described it on this show as potentially the biggest presidential scandal in American history.
What specific evidence do you have that President Biden was not the one making decisions during his time in office?
Well, I think, you know, sort of they tell everybody, don't believe your lying eyes.
Everyone could see it.
There's whistleblowers who come forward that he would get confused.
and get lost in the bathroom.
Then, of course, you have a very important point that we're going to touch on as the use of the auto pen.
It used to be, right, kings would have fixed their seal on a document, and that's how you knew it was
official.
In this country, we believe that the people are the sovereign, and when we vote for elected
officials, their actions like voting matter.
And when a president signs a letter or issues a pardon, they're speaking on behalf of the
American people.
So we're going to have a few witnesses to kind of talk about that at the hearing today.
What does that mean?
what are the consequences of that and how we should view this kind of authority moving forward
with somebody who wasn't able to exercise it competently.
And I think it's bolstered by a few other facts.
I mean, special prosecutor Robert Herk specifically did not bring charges on the documents
case because he didn't think Biden could stand trial.
He wasn't competent to stand trial.
I mean, that's kind of a big thing that people were, again, sort of eager to brush away.
And you got to remember, too, the Democrats were more than willing to lie to the American people
and say not just that he was competent and could remain president,
but that he should get four more years.
It really wasn't until that debate when it was on full display
that they could not deny it themselves,
even though they tried to keep the truth hidden.
Now, we learned in the book,
Original Sin, that there was a group of unelected advisors
who were shielding Biden from the press
and even his own cabinet secretaries.
Likely, they were making the decisions for him.
That's the implications.
Who do you believe was really in charge
and should there actually be consequences
for those involved in this?
I mean, Jill Biden obviously played a significant role.
But I think this issue is particularly important for us as a constitutional republic, right?
We believe, and this is a big experiment, like it's never been tried in the history of the world.
I think, you know, next year when we celebrate our 250th anniversary, we'll be able to reflect unless we don't teach civics as much quite as much as we should in schools.
But, you know, from the beginning of time, effectively, there was a strong man or there was a strong man or there.
was a king or a queen or God had bestowed this right on someone to rule over people,
mostly because of their, you know, being the son or daughter of someone.
And we decided in this country that everybody had it backwards, that our rights don't come
from a king or queen.
They come from God.
And the government's role is to protect those rights.
And the government gets its ability to move forward on whatever it is to protect those
rights and other things through the consent of the government, the people.
And so when you have that system set up where the people are, you know, I'm a set up.
senator from one state. There's, you know, representatives that are, there's, there's eight in
Missouri. They send people here to gather to make laws, but there's only one person in the Article 2
branch that sort of runs the show and speaks for the American people. It's the president of
the United States. And so when you have a situation like this that was very obvious and very
hidden and covered up, again, not just by the people around them, but their media allies because
they were so focused on making sure President Trump never got back into office that they were
willing to go along with this lie. That's why we're having the hearing.
You mentioned the media. Do you believe the members of the press should be compelled to testify?
Well, I think, you know, in many ways, if you believe in the First Amendment and you sort of combat
speech with more speech, the media was discredited before and the legacy media is even more
discredited now. In many ways, there's silence or their admissions after the fact, do nothing
to what, you know, an investigative journalist who actually believed in the ideals that they espoused so righteously would have been asking tough questions, would have been doing real reporting, it would have exposed it.
Again, this makes what Woodward and Bernstein did in Watergate seem like small potatoes, but nobody was willing to do it because so many of them suffer from Trump derangement syndrome and they were willing to continue, not just ignore it, but peddle these lies as, you know, Mrs. Jean-Pierre was there at the podium,
you know, essentially going after anybody who, you know, if a Fox News reporter asked a question
like that, trying to sort of discredit them. But all the while, I think they've lost all
credibility on this. And so any books that are written now in hindsight or I guess just sort of
cover your tracks kind of thing, but the American people saw it. They saw all the lawfare.
They saw all these lies and they weighed in and they wanted a big, bold change. And that's one
of the reasons I think they elected President Trump.
You said from the beginning that this is not just about looking to the past, but also looking to
the future in terms of building better transparency. What ways are the Republicans in the Senate and
in the House? What are you guys doing to improve that for the American people, to build trust
in the American people? Well, I would say there's two things happening at the same time.
If you're going to fix a problem, the first step is admitting that you have a problem.
And that's really part of the reason why we're holding this hearing and why you're seeing
activity around this, because we have to make sure that there's a full sort of expose of
what went down, right, and why and who and when and what should have happened differently.
I think that's a big part of it.
Also, I think with what, you know, nature is healing and what President Trump is doing,
the transparency, the ability or the willingness to have the press just come into the
Oval Office as he signing executive orders, asking questions, answering questions about
any topic, being on Air Force One, having that kind of accessibility.
that's what can restore trust.
And whether you love them or you hate them or you're somewhere in the middle,
that kind of accessibility and transparency is what's going to matter.
But I do think the committee, as it deals with, the Constitution,
can more closely look at the 25th Amendment.
Are there other things that we need to do?
Are there, you know, cognitive tests that should be required every year?
You know, sort of those kind of legislative remedies potentially that we can look at.
But I think the first order of business is understanding what happened and why.
As you've said, the administration has approached the press very differently.
Here at the Daily Wire, we've been very appreciative that we've been sort of given a room on the floor to ask questions.
Literally, I guess in the press briefing room, we've seen that with a lot of new media outlets.
It's very encouraging.
And again, encourages transparency.
Senator Schmidt, thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us.
Anytime. Take care.
That was Senator Eric Schmidt.
And this has been a weekend edition of Morning Wire.
Thank you.
