Morning Wire - DEI Fraud Exposed & Mamdani’s Radical Moves | 12.11.25

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

Daily Wire Investigative Reporter Luke Rosiak details his reporting on governmental waste and fraud before Congress, controversy swirls around Zohran Mamdani’s administration-to-be, and House Majori...ty Whip Tom Emmer gives us an inside look at Minnesota’s fraud scandal. Get the facts first with Morning Wire. - - - Ep. 2530 - - - Wake up with new Morning Wire merch: https://bit.ly/4lIubt3 - - - Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers - Visit https://goodranchers.com and subscribe to any box using code WIRE to claim $40 off + free meat for life! UATX - To apply to the University of Austin, visit https://UAustin.org Balance of Nature - Go to https://balanceofnature.com/pages/lock-in-for-life for 50% off the Whole Health System FOR LIFE with this limited-time offer! - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy morning wire,morning wire podcast,the morning wire podcast,Georgia Howe,John Bickley,daily wire podcast,podcast,news podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Fraud and the economy take center stage on Capitol Hill as the Fed cuts rates and the Senate holds a key hearing on corruption. The most openly abused and shockingly corrupt program in the federal government is so-called set-aside contracting. I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire Executive Editor John Bickley. It's Thursday, December 11th, and this is Morning Wire. New York mayor-elect Zoran Mamdani has yet to take office, but critics say the storm clouds are already forming over the city. We put together a team of more than 400 New Yorkers who bring with them both a fluency of the policies and politics of the city, the places that they've succeeded, the places that they've failed. And as new estimates put Minnesota's massive fraud scandal even higher than previously believed, lawmakers call for tougher federal oversight on relief programs. We're going to have to look into this in a lot more detail because, you know, there's a lot of allegations out there and they've been out there for years.
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Starting point is 00:02:36 Can you give a little context about what brought him there and what he discussed? Sure. So this all centers on the Small Business Administration's 8A program, which was initially intended to offer support for those businesses that were deemed socially and economically disadvantaged. Now, under the Biden administration, federal agencies were instructed to make sure that 15% of all government contracts were awarded to businesses operated by minorities or women, meaning billions of taxpayer dollars were given based on race and gender. So basically this was one of the largest DEI programs in the country.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Now, not only was the program intentionally excluding certain people based on race, it was also ripe with fraud. Daily Wire investigative reporter Luke Roziak has documented countless cases in which minority-owned businesses would win a contract and then outsource nearly all of the work to non-minority-owned businesses, pocketing most of the money in the process. In many other cases, large government contractors like Deloitte or Bruce Allen-Hamilton, would seek out minority-owned businesses to secure contracts on their behalf through the 8-A program,
Starting point is 00:03:37 and then those smaller businesses would keep a huge chunk of the money, while the larger contractor would do all of the work. On Wednesday, the Senate Committee on Small Business held a hearing to address that fraud, and here's what Rosiac had to say about his findings. 8-A creates a random group of influence peddlers who, like lobbyists, get rich by selling their access to government insiders for the benefit of big business while driving up the costs for all of us. This is the kind of thing people hate about Washington.
Starting point is 00:04:05 You owe it to voters to end this program. So the process of the government insisting that certain contracts be awarded to these minority or women-owned businesses is referred to as set-asides. And here's Rosiak testifying about the danger that he says is inherent in these set-aside programs. Wherever there's the prospect of millions of dollars going to somebody without the usual competitive process, the free market is going to find creative ways to get that money to, where it would otherwise have gone, which unfortunately often means big companies. Now across town also in Washington, there were some developments on the economy, something that
Starting point is 00:04:42 will affect a lot of our listeners. What's the latest with the interest rate? So on Wednesday, the Federal Reserve Board voted again to cut interest rates by a quarter point to the 3.5 to 3.75% range. That means the rates have now come down by almost 2% over the last year and a half. They're now with their lowest point in more than three years. So typically, rates are raised when inflation is high and then lowered when the labor market is cool. But ultimately, the Fed Board led by Chair Jerome Powell, viewed the labor market as a more pressing matter. And they said that these cuts would help get hiring going again and lower unemployment. Here's Powell explaining their decision and talking about those conflicting issues between the labor
Starting point is 00:05:21 market and inflation. In the near term, risks to inflation are tilted to the upside and risks risks to employment to the downside, a challenging situation. There is no risk-free path for policy as we navigate this tension between our employment and inflation goals. Now, speaking of Jerome Powell, President Trump has not been secretive at all about his displeasure with him. Powell's term is coming up this spring. President Trump is going to be replacing him. How does that, how's that search going? Yeah, kids across America right now are counting down the days until Christmas. Donald Trump is counting down the days until May 15th, 2026. That is when Jerome Powell's four-year term expires, and he'll get to pick his successor. The shortlist right now includes two current Fed governors,
Starting point is 00:06:05 a Black Rock executive, and his current National Economic Council Director, Kevin Hassett, who is presumed to be the frontrunner. Trump has hinted that he already knows who he's going to pick. He should make that announcement shortly, and we'll see who Trump has under the Christmas tree this spring. Sorry, that was bad. I'm a dad. I'm a dad. It's a dad joke. Come on. Gavin, thanks for reporting. Absolutely. This episode is sponsored by the University of Austin, Texas. You know college is broken.
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Starting point is 00:07:17 not another generation of credentialed activists. To apply to the University of Austin, visit U-Austin.org. That's U-A-U-S-T-I-N.org. As New York City braces for a seismic shift in leadership with Democratic Socialist Zoran Mamdani taking the helm as mayor next
Starting point is 00:07:35 month, a wave of controversy is erupting over his early moves. Joining us now with the latest is Daily Wire Culture reporter, Megan Basham. So, Megan, a lot of political pundits, particularly those on the right, warned that Mamdani would endanger public safety with
Starting point is 00:07:51 his undermining of law enforcement and now they say there's some strong evidence that those claims are vindicated. What's the latest? Yeah, so one of his most controversial moves, Georgia, is that he just put out this video addressed to immigrants in which he told them that they have a right to resist ICE. So this is what he said. We can all stand up to ICE if you know your rights.
Starting point is 00:08:14 If you encounter ICE, these are the things that every New Yorker should know. First, ICE cannot enter into private spaces like your home, school, or private area of your workplace. without a judicial warrant signed by a judge. That looks like this. If ICE does not have a judicial warrant signed by a judge, you have the right to say, I do not consent to entry. And the right to keep your door closed.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So critics argue that this goes beyond merely explaining constitutional rights. And some say that it could embolden illegal aliens, even those with criminal records to resist or evade ICE efforts to, you know, start to deport illegal aliens. I think we need to remember that pre-election, Mom Dani did call ICE reckless, and he vowed to, quote, unquote, fight back against them. Well, and of course the backdrop to that is Trump is continuing with this deportation push. Now, pivoting specifically to Mom Dani's transition team, a lot of people are reading the tea leaves there, what are we hearing about that? Yeah, so this has been an explosive topic because Mom Dani has tapped a man name, and I'm possibly going to get the pronunciation wrong, but it's Mice and Linen.
Starting point is 00:09:21 to be a key voice on justice reform, on his committee on the criminal legal system. Now, Linen was once a rising hip-hop star. He had a contract with Def Jam. But in 1999, he was convicted of two armed robberies, specifically for holding up taxi drivers with a gun. And he served seven years and was finally paroled in 2006. He then rebranded as something of a Black Lives Matter activist. And he founded this group until freedom with a woman named Linda Sarsaw. And she's a controversial pro-Palestinian activist. And she's also served as a mom-dani advisor. So law enforcement, as you can imagine, is pretty apoplectic about this. The corrections officers union head, Benny Bosco, called it, quote, disheartening and deeply disturbing.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And retired NYPD brass like John Chell say that it's a pattern of mom-dani. filling his team with these anti-cop fire brands. People like Black Nationalist, Lambo Mandelae, and Defund the Police Guru, Alex Vitelli, and others. And that includes a left-wing social justice activist who once named a convicted cop killer as one of the people that she would like to spend an afternoon with. So Mamdani says that he just wants people on this committee,
Starting point is 00:10:41 on advising him, who have a broad array of experiences and analysis to draw from. Now, what about the homeless policy? We've seen reports that he's going to be changing course there. Yes. So, Mamdani has pledged to end this longstanding practice of clearing out homeless encampments across the city under outgoing mayor Eric Adams. These kinds of sweeps and cleanups were very common, a central part of maintaining what Adams called quality of life and public safety enforcement. But Mamdani said that unless the city can deliver stable, permanent housing, forcing people off the street will not accomplish anything. Instead, he plans to shift to what he called a housing-first approach. That includes things like providing housing through rental units, possibly housing vouchers to the homeless.
Starting point is 00:11:32 But Adams, who we need to remember is a Democrat himself, has warned that this is, quote, idealism colliding with realism. He and other critics are warning that Momdani's policies could very well lead to sprawling. encampments, deteriorating public spaces, and overall a loss of public safety and quality of life. Well, he's going to learn, just like Los Angeles learned about what happens when you don't clean up your homeless. Megan, thanks for reporting. Yep, my pleasure. 60% of the vans on Amazon, proven to vendors independent, like sack magic.
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Starting point is 00:12:58 So we have this massive fraud scandal continuing to unravel this week. What do you believe were the most critical oversight failures within the Walls administration? And how should Minnesota restructure its safeguards to prevent this from happening again? Well, the first thing you do is you've got to get rid of Tim Walls and Keith Ellison and Ilhan Omar. I mean, there's your biggest structural problem right there. Let me put some context around this for your viewers, your listeners. The facts are this. Today, there are roughly, by some estimates, about 80,000 Somali immigrants that are living in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:13:35 The vast majority of them live in Minneapolis or Hanopin County, an area called Cedar Riverside. Tim Walls and Keith Ellison cannot get votes in greater, Minnesota. Think about this. In the last re-election, Tim Walls outspent the Republican candidates 15 million to 1.7 million, and he won with 52 percent, just over 52 percent of the vote. If you look a little deeper, we have 87 counties. Tim Walls only won the 13 metro counties. So what is this about? This is about the fact that when he and Keith Ellison took office, Keith Ellison instantly set up a policy in his attorney general's office that required his approval before any further investigations into fraud could go forward. Guess what? He's never approved one of them.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Incredible. And it's not that all Somali immigrants are bad. It just so happens that 90% of the crimes we're talking about have been committed by people that are in the Somali community. And by the way, they have been sending millions back to Somalia into the hands of al-Shabaab, so a known terrorist group. So if you look at Keith Ellison, he won by a little less than one point in his last election. What is this all about? This is all about them getting re-elected. They need that 60 to 80,000 Somali population to be voting for them.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Look, you had the $250 million fraud that people have heard the largest pandemic fraud case in the country. This was a nutritional supplement, I'll call it, program during COVID, where the states were administering money out of the Department of Agriculture through their Department of Education to schools to try and feed children during COVID. $250 million. Who in the Minnesota Department of Education has been held accountable for this? Then there was the Medicaid housing fraud. They started in 2020. Program was estimated to be a little more than $2 million. in a year. By 2024 and four years, they'd sucked 100 million out of it. And guess what? They shut her down just last October after they sucked another 61 million out of it and they
Starting point is 00:15:55 realized the fraud. Is there any action being taken to hold people accountable if they did look the other way knowingly? What investigations are going on with that? And what do you hope to see pursued? Look, I think our U.S. Justice Department is starting to pick up where Minnesota should have been involved investigating not only the fraud, but who might have been. not just incompetent, but actively engaged in the fraud because they should be held criminally responsible. You've got Dr. Oz, who's investigating a fraud in the Medicaid program. You've got Kelly Loeffler, who's investigating fraud in the SBA program. You got Cash Patel, who's busy with his team investigating Somali gangs that have frankly been running rampant in the Twin Cities
Starting point is 00:16:38 committing crimes, and no one will hold them accountable for it. Let's hope we do see some action on this, because we don't want to see billions more wasted on fraud. Congressman Emmer, thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, thank you again for Covenant. Really appreciate it. Thanks for waking up with us. And if you're listening to the show, now you can watch for free on Daily Wire Plus. We'll be back later this evening with more news you need to know.
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