Morning Wire - Democrats Battle the Enthusiasm Gap | 4.11.22

Episode Date: April 11, 2022

Democrats Battle the Enthusiasm Gap | 4.11.22 Democrats scramble to head off a “Red Wave,” four men accused of plotting to kidnap Michagan Governor Gretchen Whitmer are not convicted, and violence... against police spikes. Get the facts first on Morning Wire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Record inflation, skyrocketing gas prices and the immigration crisis are further shaking Americans' confidence in President Biden. Now, new data shows the impact it could have on the midterms. Are Democrats facing a looming red wave in November? And what is the party doing to prevent it? I'm John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's Monday, April 11th. This is Morning Wire. None of the four men accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer were found guilty.
Starting point is 00:00:34 We hear from a reporter who is on the ground. for the trial. And as violent crime becomes more common on America's streets, even police are not exempt. The number of law enforcement officers shot in the line of duty so far this year has surged compared to the last two years. Thanks for waking up with Morning Wire. Stay tuned. We have the news you need to know. This show is sponsored by Indeed. News travels fast, but hiring can take forever. Find quality candidates fast with Indeed. Instead of spending hours on multiple job sites, you need one powerful hiring partner that can do it all. And with Indeed's instant match,
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Starting point is 00:01:31 With midterm elections fast approaching, new nationwide data spells trouble for Democrats on a variety of important voter metrics. Now, party leadership is scrambling to regain their footing in key battleground states. Here are the latest numbers and how President Biden's job approval is impacting the midterms is Daily Wire senior editor Cabot Phillips. So Cabot, tell us about this new batch of polling and why it's so important for November. So typically pollsters track two key metrics when it comes to midterms, voter enthusiasm
Starting point is 00:02:02 and presidential approval ratings. Because midterm elections have lower turnout than presidential cycles, remember, only about four in ten registered voters actually show up to the polls. Pollsters keep a close eye on enthusiasm levels within each party because it's typically the more enthusiastic voters who actually are motivated enough to get to the polls when there isn't a nationally known figure on the ballot. And on that front, Republicans have been dominating all year. If you look at tracking polls in October, they held an 11-point lead in the number of voters saying they're, quote, very interested in the midterms. Then it rose to a 14-point lead in January,
Starting point is 00:02:36 and now Republicans this week hold a 17 point lead on voter enthusiasm. 17, it's risen that much. Yeah, and that type of lead, it's worth noting, is showing up in polls across the board. It's not just one single poll. For context, the last time we saw an enthusiasm gap this wide was back in 2010, which happened to be the year Democrats lost more than 60 seats in the House during Obama's first term. Democrats had been hopeful recently that the state of the union address and loosened COVID measures and the nomination of Katanji Brown Jackson would improve the standing of Democrats,
Starting point is 00:03:09 but really the opposite has actually happened. Now, you brought up the state of the union. Tell us about the role President Biden is playing in all of this. Yeah, we've said on the show multiple times how midterms are typically a referendum on the president, and that's becoming even more noticeable this month. For example, one poll from Pew Research found that 71% of Republican voters say their midterm vote this year will be, quote, against Joe Biden. And more broadly, as the president's approval ratings have continued to sink,
Starting point is 00:03:37 the gap between voter preference for the midterms has grown, with Republicans now leading by anywhere from two to ten points in most polls. The president's approval has hovered in the high 30s and low 40s, which has Democrat leaders, especially members of Congress' upper re-election, very nervous. Right, you think so? What sort of impact are those low approval ratings having at the state level? Well, we don't have a ton of polling data to go on right now at the state. level. So it's helpful to look at recent history for some indicators on trends for this November.
Starting point is 00:04:08 For example, in 2018, there were 10 Senate races that took place in states where Trump's approval rating was below 48%. Democrats won all 10 of those races. Similarly, in 2014, Democrats lost 14 to the 15 states where Obama's approval rating was at 42% or less. So the clear moral the story is voters are much more concerned with the president's approval than they often are with the actual senator or congressmember on the ballot. Yeah. And what do we know about his approval in those key battleground states? So this year, there are going to be a lot of races where Democrat incumbents are threatened,
Starting point is 00:04:42 but the state's getting the most attention are Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. Now, President Biden is, you know, won all of those states in 2020, but the margins were already incredibly slim, and he's struggling in polling there. The most recent polling in Arizona shows him at just 40% approval. that's an all-time low so far. In Wisconsin, it's 43%, Pennsylvania, it's 40%, another all-time low. And in Georgia, it's just 34%. And those polling struggles are almost certain to drag down Democrat incumbents
Starting point is 00:05:12 and really lift the chances of Republican challengers. Yeah, it definitely seems like an uphill battle for Democrats over the next few months. Cabot, thanks for the reporting. Anytime. That's Daily Wire senior editor, Cabot Phillips. Coming up, the jury in the Gretchen Whitmer case reaches a verdict. You can get this show and all of the content you love wherever you are, all on the Daily Wire app. Even if you're not a Daily Wire member, you'll be first to know what's trending with mobile notifications for the latest news.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And you'll get content from all your favorite Daily Wire shows. Download the Daily Wire app and keep up with the facts no matter where your day takes you. In October 2020, the FBI arrested six men for an alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Two of the men pleaded guilty and four others pleaded not. guilty and went to trial. Defense attorneys claim that the plot originated with and was entirely driven by FBI informants. Daily Wire reporter Tim Pierce covered the trial from the courthouse, and it's here to break down the verdict for us. Tim, welcome. Thanks, Georgia. All right, this is a high-profile case here involving a Democratic governor and the FBI. So tell us about
Starting point is 00:06:24 this verdict. Sure. So prosecutors failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that any of the four men actually committed what was alleged. The jury acquitted two men, Brandon Caserta and Daniel Harris. The other two defendants, Barry Croft and Adam Fox, received a split verdict, and prosecutors have indicated they plan to try the case against them again. What everyone is talking about, though, is how this looks for the FBI. There were a total of 10 charges level against the four men, and the jury wasn't willing to convict on a single one. The case was particularly notable because it was used by Democratic politicians on the campaign trail to justify claims that right-wing voters were inciting violence.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Now, for those who haven't tracked it closely, tell us about the case. What exactly did the FBI allege? Sure. This goes back to October 2020. Federal agents arrested six men on charges of conspiracy to kidnap the governor. At the time, Whitmer had instituted
Starting point is 00:07:13 some of the strictest COVID restrictions in the country, and there was lots of backlash. Ty Garbin and Caleb Franks, who were members of the militia group Wolverine Watchmen, pleaded guilty to the conspiracy charge and testified for the prosecution at trial in exchange for a plea
Starting point is 00:07:27 The other force said the alleged conspiracy was a setup by the FBI. The defendant said they were illegally manipulated by federal agents, a defense known as entrapment. Cicerta's attorney, Mike Hills, had some strong words after the verdict calling FBI agent Jason Chambers and informant Dan Chappell, quote, predators. Defense attorneys presented their clients as keyboard warriors and social outcasts who were preyed upon by federal agents. They also admitted that their clients made horrible statements during the summer of 2020, but insisted that it was the FBI, and not their clients who created the alleged conspiracy. However, federal prosecutors had a different take. Prosecutors portrayed the defendants as a group willing to commit an act of extreme violence against Whitmer.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So this case also had some ties to national politics, especially when it broke right ahead of the 2020 election. Can you tell us a little about that? Well, if you'll remember, this quickly became about Donald Trump. Within a few days after the conspiracy went public, Governor Whitmer was accusing President Donald Trump of inciting domestic terror. groups heard the president's words not as a rebuke, but as a rallying cry, as a call to action. When our leaders meet with, encourage, or fraternize with domestic terrorists, they legitimize
Starting point is 00:08:43 their actions, and they are complicit. For his part, Trump took the wait and see approach, saying at a late October rally, quote, people are entitled to say maybe it was a problem, maybe it wasn't. On Friday, Whitmer appeared to challenge the jury's decision. A statement by our chief of staff called for accountability for extremists and a rejection of the, quote, normalization of political violence. So is this case over? Where do things stand with the two defendants with the split jury? That's a good question. Technically, the cases against Croft and Fox can be tried again. And prosecutors have suggested that that's exactly what they want. All right. Well, very interesting case. Tim, thanks for reporting.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Thanks for having me. That's Daily Wire reporter Tim Pierce. The number of police officers shot in the line of duty in 2022 is on pace to break the record set just last year. Police have been wounded and even killed both on and off duty. Here to fill us in on the details is Daily Wire reporter Ben Johnson. Thanks for joining us, Ben. Of course.
Starting point is 00:09:45 We've covered this issue a few times. It's obviously a very important issue. How does the number of police shot this year compare with previous years? There's been a double-digit increase in the number of police shot. shot for each of the last two years. In the first three months of this year, 101 police were shot in the line of duty, according to the Fraternal Order of Police. The number of officers wounded by gunfire as of April 1st is 46% higher than the same period last year and almost two-thirds higher than this time in 2020. A total of 16 law enforcement officers had been killed by hostile
Starting point is 00:10:18 gunfire. A particularly concerning statistics, the fact that almost a third of these victims were shot in ambush attacks where the gunman lies in wait for the police. Ambush attacks have claimed five officers' lives in 2022. That's certainly concerning. Is there any sense anti-police violence is leveling out? Unfortunately, no. At least five officers were shot on March 31st. A domestic violent suspect in Lebanon, Pennsylvania, shot three officers killing Lieutenant William Loeb, a 40-year veteran of the department. And what sounds like a twist from a movie, he was 30, days away from retirement. The danger doesn't even end when the police officers clock out. An off-duty police officer was shot the morning of March 31st in Englewood, California.
Starting point is 00:11:04 That evening, 51-year-old deputy Darren Almondares was coming out of a Houston grocery store when he saw suspects allegedly stealing a catalytic converter in a parking lot. The off-duty officer approached the three suspects when he was shot and killed. Police have charged two men and a 17-year-old boy with his murder. Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez remembered Almonderas, who served the department for 23 years during a press conference that evening. Today we've lost another hero here in our community, sadly. Our deputy was pronounced deceased a short while ago, and our hearts are broken. Two days later, another off-duty officer encountered three other men allegedly stealing catalytic converters in the parking lot of a Houston movie theater.
Starting point is 00:11:47 The suspect shot him. Thankfully, that officer survived. So do we know anything about what's to blame for this rise in anti-police shootings? Police generally blame two things. An anti-police narrative in the media and soft-on-crime policies that lower disincentives to crime. Patrick Yose, the National President of the Fraternal Order of Police, says it's no coincidence more police have been shot over the last two years. Well, look, two years of the anti-police rhetoric has certainly taken its toll on our profession.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And former Louisville Police Sergeant John Mattingly, the author of the book 12 Seconds in the dark told me a revolving door criminal policy can endanger the police who come into contact with violent offenders. We are dealing with the same people over and over, and as they become emboldened, as they get let out realizing, ah, they're not going to do anything to me, as they hear all this rhetoric from the left and from the progressives about, you know, the police are bad, the police are at fault, they know there's not going to be much done to them. There's one additional aspect of this anti-police crime wave that's worth mentioning. Sheriff Gonzalez reminded people that if criminals are increasingly willing to shoot police officers with all the extra penalties that that entails,
Starting point is 00:12:55 that means they have no fear of shooting any American. You know, we're tired of this crime in our community. We're tired that people aren't even safe to go out to the grocery store. This is a cop. This is a cop that's just out with his family. It could be any one of us. It's a pretty powerful statement there. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Thanks for the report, Ben. Thanks for covering it. That's Daily Wires, Ben Johnson. Other stories we're tracking this week. Prime Minister Boris Johnson made an unannounced visit to Ukraine's capital city, Kiev, on Sunday. In his meeting with Ukraine's president, Johnson walked the city's war-torn streets and pledged to provide more support for the embattled country. And Russia lost another military leader in its invasion of Ukraine. A funeral for Colonel
Starting point is 00:13:41 Alexander Bespelov was held in Russia on Friday. He was reportedly the ninth of Putin's colonels lost in the Russia-instigated war. Thanks for listening to Morningwire. We're created this show to bring more balance to the national conversation. If you love our show and you stand with our mission, please consider subscribing, leaving us a five-star rating, and most importantly, sharing our podcast with a friend. That's all the time we've got this morning. Thanks for waking up with us. We'll be back tomorrow with the news you need to know. If you like this podcast, subscribe to our Morning Wire newsletter available exclusively to Daily Wire members. Get the Morning Wire newsletter delivered
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