Morning Wire - Trump’s Go-To Military Adviser On The State Of Biden’s Military | 5.26.24
Episode Date: May 26, 2024We speak to Congressman Michael Waltz on the current state of the U.S. military, and whether it's capable of meeting the challenges posed by an increasingly hostile world. Get the facts first on Morni...ng Wire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Former President Trump was heard saying recently to a room of his biggest supporters that whenever he has a question about the military, he calls the same guy, Florida Congressman Mike Waltz.
Waltz currently sits on the foreign affairs and intelligence committees, but before that, he was a member of one of the U.S. Army's most specialized forces, the Green Berets.
In this episode, Waltz joins us in our Nashville studios to discuss everything military from the state of the forces under President Biden and how they could be deployed to help you.
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The following is an interview
between Daily Wire Investigations editor, Brent Scher,
and Congressman Michael Waltz.
We're here with Florida Congressman Mike Walts,
who is nice enough to join us in our Nashville studios.
Congressman Walts, thanks for coming in.
Yeah, good to be with you.
guys. Pretty cool headquarters here. Thank you. So it was reported last week, and I've confirmed it,
that Donald Trump told a crowd at Mar-a-Lago that when he wants to know about the military, he calls you.
I don't blame him. You're the first Green Beret to be in Congress. I want to know what advice
Trump is getting when he calls. Well, I'll just say up front. It's not as though he needs a ton of
advice. However, you know, some of it is kind of, you know, what I'm hearing out of the Pentagon,
what's this nonsense or that nonsense going on.
I've talked to him one time I recall about testimony from the Secretary of the Army.
This is Biden's Secretary of the Army, who one of her main goals is to make a carbon-neutral
army, not the most lethal, the most deadly, most feared, but the least carbon-emitting
army by 2030.
And I was walking him through this and then how she's put money in the budget for electric
tanks as part of that, which he just thought was both hilarious and terrifying.
So we talked about the, you know, Biden's electric tanks. We've talked about what's going on in Iran and going back to maximum pressure. If you just drive down the price of oil around the world below $55 a barrel, not only is Iran's economy and their war machine on life support, so is Putin's, for that matter. You want to solve both Ukraine and what's going on in Gaza, unleash American oil and gas, drive down the price of oil below $55 a barrel. And both of them.
are done, you know, some of the stuff that's going on in the politicized military and how we've got
to get them back to being lethal, back to being feared, back to a meritocracy. And I don't know,
man, you know, the last time we talked actually was about shipbuilding. He loves building things,
loves construction. We were talking about the fact that, for example, just like manufacturing
got gutted out of middle America, shipbuilding has all gone overseas as well. And even if he comes in
in November and he said, we need a 500 ship navy and we need to be back to being a great
maritime power. We don't have the steel, the aluminum, the wrench turners, the shipyards
anymore. Just by point of comparison, so people understand how bad it is, China last year received
orders for 1,500 ships. We received orders for 5. And these are like tankers, cargo ships.
I mean, things you need to make the economy go. So I released a national maritime strategy on how we
get back there, take his leadership to do it. But those are the kind of things. Okay. Yeah, well, I want
to ask about China. So if China were to make an aggressive move towards Taiwan, with our current
state of the military under Biden, could the United States successfully stop China? And if not,
what would Trump need to do? What would need to build to make it so? So I think today, yes,
What I worry about is two, three, four years from now with where the trend lines are going.
I don't know.
For example, China is cranking out ships at a rate of six of theirs to one of ours, and
ours are getting old and dilapidated.
They're on track to have a 400-ship Navy.
We're retiring more ships than we're building and heading towards 250.
They can concentrate all of theirs in the Western Pacific.
ours are spread all over the world, right? So those just by sheer mass and force of numbers,
we're getting into a really bad spot. They're tripling their nuclear arsenal. They're launching more
into space than us and the rest of the world combined. Everybody joked about Trump's Space Force,
you know, with all the space cadet jokes and what have you. It was actually very serious.
It was, thank God he did it. I'm convinced that any other president, the Pentagon would still be
dragging their feet. Wasn't until Trump fired the Air Force Secretary, who was.
is resistant and then suddenly overtweet, by the way, and the general's got religion, and we now
have a space force that is actually helping us regain that edge. So I think if we get him back in,
then, you know, what do we need to do? Well, one, we just need a culture of lethality. Two,
our dollars have to go a lot further. Treat the defense budget more like venture capital and
private equity where you get results quickly. And if you don't, you move on. And you
have a lot of companies like, you know, Palmer Lucky with Anderol and others that are trying to
innovate, they just can't break through the Pentagon bureaucracy. But we have to move quickly. The dollar
has to go further, and we need to have a culture focused on winning. Okay. I just want to ask
about a few other places where the military is needed. So moving on to Iran, increasingly hostile
in the Middle East, through its proxies and directly with Israel, is there a military solution
to Iran's nuclear program? I think it's a largely economic.
solution, dry up the cash. They're selling 90% of their oil right now to China. So it's quite ironic.
China's getting cheap, illegal Iranian oil and gas. Then Chinese money is going through Tehran,
buying Russian advanced equipment that the Iranians will then use to defend their nuclear sites.
And then the rest of the money is going out to the various terrorist groups, the Houthis,
Hamas, and Hezbollah. So at the end of the day, go back to maximum pressure.
Just a few years ago under President Trump, ISIS was largely defeated. Iran was broke and you have the Abraham Accords breaking out. And the Iranian economy and regime was in survival mode. And the thing they care about the most is their money and the regime staying in power. And as more you have them looking inwards and trying to survive economically, literally the less money they have to sow mayhem around the Middle East, much less finance their nuclear program. So we got to cut off.
the cash and it worked. It was working. I think we should be doing a lot more of it, disrupting the
supply chain. They're buying things illegally and illicitly all over the world, all of the components
to make a nuclear program. Where are they getting that cash, right? And then even if they do,
say they test a bomb, then they have to miniaturize it, get it on top of a warhead, and then start
producing them at scale. So there's still a lot we could do to shut them down economically and make
sure they literally can't afford a program. Okay. Last year you proposed authorizing military force
against the Mexican cartels. What would be the goal and what would it actually look like? It's not
actually, you know, the troops marching across the board. Yeah, the media, you know, especially during the
primary debates when President Trump has been saying it for a while, but then Governor DeSantis
threw it out during the debates. It was actually a bill that Representative Crenshaw and I both
introduced. And look, we've done this before. We did this in Columbia. The media spun the whole thing
is Republicans want to send the Marines into Mexico. No. What we're talking about is military resources,
military support to law enforcement. Customs and Border Patrol, federal agents, they don't have
spy satellites, they don't have drones, they don't have offensive cyber. So what would it look like?
it would look largely like what we did down in Colombia when we took down the Medellin cartel
helping the Colombians. We can also do that with the Mexicans. We can start disrupting their
communications. We can start hacking into their systems. We can start disrupting their cash flow.
We can intercept precursors. We can put secondary sanctions on Chinese firms that are knowingly
providing the precursors to the cartels, knowing that they're going to kill 100,000 Americans.
and you know what?
If maybe a missile flies through a window in the middle of the night, I don't know.
But we want the cartels running scared.
And right now, just so people know, they are fighting the Mexican army.
This isn't like the mafia.
This is like ISIS.
They're a paramilitary force.
They are heavily armed.
They're shooting down aircraft.
They control about 30% of Mexico at this point.
And they're fighting the Mexican army to a standstill, shooting up their vehicle,
shooting up their helicopters.
This is a paramilitary organization with billions at their disposal.
And if you changed it from Halisco and Sinaloa to ISIS and al-Qaeda, it wouldn't even be a debate.
Just changed the names.
It wouldn't even be a debate that are killing hundreds of thousands of Americans a year.
We need all hands on deck.
Yeah.
In terms of cartels running scared, I want to ask you about DEI and military because we've talked before about how it's hurt morale and it's hurt recruiting.
do you think it's hurt our image globally?
Do you think, you know, when Daily Wire reports on some nonsensical DEI program at the Pentagon,
do you think our enemies are reading it and laughing at us and less scared of the United States?
Well, look, I think first and foremost, militaries still respect our military capability,
but they do not respect the current commander-in-chief.
And you can have the most technologically superior military in the world,
world. But if your enemies and adversaries do not respect and fear the person leading it and the
political will to use it in the right way, then you see what we see right now, which is deterrence
crumbling all over the world and our adversaries on the march all over the world. And then you
layer on top of that. I think that's not a nice to have, but a sad to have on top of when you
see the current leadership talking about a carbon neutral military, more focused on renaming bases
and putting Chinese-made solar panels on them
and then rolling out plans for electric tanks on top of it,
no charging stations in Ukraine or Africa last I checked.
I think that adds insult to injury, frankly.
And again, it's the trend lines of where is that taking us.
It's having very real effects.
We have the worst recruiting crisis right now
than we've had since Vietnam.
The army missed by 45,000 soldiers the last two years.
That's multiple divisions worth.
the Navy, if this continues, they're not going to be able to man ships. So, I mean, when they
miss by 6,000, as they will this year, an aircraft carrier's crew is 5,000. So just to put it kind of
in perspective, it's incredibly serious. I am more worried about those men and women who want to
jump out of planes and kick indoors. And yet they tend to come from military families. And when
polling shows 65% of military families would not recommend their son or daughter join under this
administration, that's going to have an effect. It's going to take many years to dig out of.
Do you think it's reversible, though? I do think it's reversible, but it's going to take a change in
leadership. Polling shows that a lot of military families point to Afghanistan and that disgraceful,
despicable withdrawal, point to real lack of focus and purpose. You know, young men and women don't
need inclusion. They need purpose and they need mission and they need to have confidence that they're
going to be ably led. And then also, you know, we just passed two measures. One, banning CRT,
critical race theory in our military. Now we've just got to enforce it. And then two, we're going
to expand junior ROTC in high schools. And when you have young kids that are learning leadership,
discipline, followership, teamwork, mission, purpose, right place, right time, right unit,
form, positive role models, they respond. But we have to have a leadership that reflects that.
And what we currently have is one that believes America is more a problem around the world. And is
that inherently racist and inherently misogynistic and colonialist reflecting the progressive left?
Then we have one that says, you know what, you want to kick ass and jump out of planes and kick
indoors for the greatest nation, not perfect, but the greatest nation that's ever existed on earth,
then come join this military. That's the message. I think when they hear it again, hopefully this
November, then we'll reverse the trend. All right. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming in,
Congressman Waltz. We hope to have you back. All right. Great. Thanks.
That was Daily Wire Investigation's editor Brent Scher speaking with Congressman Mike Waltz,
and this has been a Sunday edition of Morning Wire.
