Morning Wire - Will Trudeau Resign? Canada’s Leadership in Jeopardy | 12.22.24

Episode Date: December 22, 2024

Justin Trudeau’s Liberal Party teeters on collapse after Chrystia Freeland’s resignation which highlights growing discontent regarding a housing crisis and massive debt. Get the facts first on Morning Wire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Last week, Canada's finance minister and one of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's closest allies resigned, sending shockwaves throughout Parliament. Krista Freeland's resignation caused a chain reaction of parliament members demanding that the Prime Minister resign. In this episode, we speak with Heritage Foundation Vice President for National Security and Foreign Policy, Victoria Coates, about the uphill battle Trudeau faces and what comes next. I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire, editor-in-chief John Bickley. It's December 22nd, and this is a Sunday edition of Morning Wire. Hey guys, producer Brandon here.

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resigned this past week. How significant is that and what does her departure suggest about the internal fractures within the Liberal Party? It's a really chaotic situation, and your listeners will be forgiven. There are so many. We have South Korea, we have Japan, we have Germany, we have France. All of these governments are sort of falling into chaos largely because their populations feel the governments are not responding to the issues that are important to them, and particularly in Canada, you know, Prime Minister Trudeau, who has been the card-carrying poster child for a woke liberal agenda, very extreme policies on immigration, on gender issues. All of these things has become deeply unpopular to the point of 23% popularity, which is pretty bad. And as you said, Krista Freeland, their finance minister and deputy prime minister,

has resigned essentially based on the catastrophic economic situation. And I think you're seeing the liberal party really fall apart. What is the catastrophic financial situation in Canada? Well, I think this has all come from very liberal economic policies of Prime Minister Trudeau. where the currency is depreciating dramatically. He is prioritizing DEI issues, for example, going very heavily into an extreme green agenda, all of which is disastrous for Canada's economy. Bear in mind Canada is one of the world's great energy producers, quietly behind the scenes. Canadian conservatives have been saying, hey, why aren't we selling more oil to the United States?

You know, why aren't we refining together? Why aren't we developing our natural resources? and I think the Canadian people realize there's a much more productive relationship, particularly with the United States, if we have new leadership in both countries that aren't as committed to an extreme green agenda. Now, a lot of people are pointing to Trump's return to power as one of the factors that's causing some of this turmoil in Canada, particularly relating to his tariff threats. Is there any truth to that?

I think that's very real. And I'm calling it the Trump effect. It is something that seems to be sort of impacting almost the entire globe. But in this case, there has been an uneven playing field between Canada and the United States. And while USMCA is an improvement on the old NAFTA deal, it has not completely leveled the field. And I think that's what President Trump was saying. And, you know, the impact of that on Canada's economy would be devastating. I think that's why you saw Prime Minister Trudeau hightail it down to Marilago last week to try to talk President Trump out of that position.

and you had the president offer to make Canada the 51st state and started to refer to him as governor Trudeau, which was pretty hilarious, but very much, I think, an indicator that the United States is the big brother in this relationship. And, you know, under President Trump, we're not going to be taken advantage of anymore. Justin Trudeau's popularity you mentioned is at an all-time low. And you did mention that there's some economic factors there contributing. What other issues are leading to his unpopularity? Is it primarily just the depreciating dollar? or what else is going on? I think economic is king in these situations that when you have a suffering economy, you have inflation, you have increasing energy prices, you're going to just have overall unhappiness.

And then, you know, the threat of increasing economic woes because of Trudeau's policies, you know, personalize this. And I think from what I've seen from a lot of Canadians online is they feel like he is very allied with a kind of global elitist class

that consider themselves the better of Canada and aren't paying attention to the issues that matter to Canadians. And I think that's very much the sentiment we got from the recent U.S. election. And so I think this is an opportunity because the conservative party is led by a politician named Pierre Puellev. And who is a much more staunched, rock-ribbed conservative in the tradition of Stephen Harper and other great Canadian leaders who I think would be a super partner for President Trump. So the Canadian election isn't necessarily going to happen before next October, which is when they have to do it. But the situation is certainly very fluid. So, you know, the prime minister could resign at any time, call for a

snap election. So that could happen sooner rather than later. Now, what motivation would Trudeau have to actually resign? I think if he feels like the situation is untenable, that he is facing so much non-confidence, he can't get anything done. If he has additional resignations in his government and he can't find people to replace them, you know, he may realize that the right of is on the wall. He might also hope for a Hail Mary that maybe the people who have been voting for him for low these many years might come out again and give him another term. We've seen that attempted before. It rarely works, but doesn't stop people from trying. So all of those factors could contribute to a resignation. But as I said, I think it's more likely he kind of tries to limp along

as long as he can. Now, we recently saw Trudeau visit Mar-a-Lago and be somewhat deferential to Trump. Is that a good strategy for him with regards to his? relationship with the U.S.? Or is that just going to weaken him further? No, I think it's maybe his only strategy. You know, he realizes Trump is coming back. He realizes that, you know, Trump has a lot of problems with what they've been doing economically. And I think this was kind of his attempt to mend bridges.

I think, unfortunately, that's simply not going to work. I don't think he is capable of implementing the kind of sort of sweeping conservative reforms that would be required to evade those Trump tariffs and return, as I said, to a level playing field. So I unfortunately don't think that was much more than kind of an exercise and ritual self-humiliation. Now, opposition leader Pierre Pahliav is gaining momentum all while Trudeau craters. What do you think his chances are in the event of a vote? Oh, I think if a vote was called, the conservative party would win handling. He's about 20 points up on Trudeau, so that that points to a pretty sweeping victory. Poliavre is a very compelling politician, growing in popularity,

sort of seems like the next new thing. Trudeau is increasingly yesterday's news. So I'm pretty optimistic about their chances if a vote is called. Now, the housing shortage in Canada was voted the most consequential story of 2024 by Canadian press outlets. How big is the crisis there in Canada and how is it shaping the discontent? Well, I mean, I think it's for many of the same reasons. The policies that Trudeau has espoused are these, what you might call anti-human and anti-growth,

very extreme carbon pricing schemes, which is all based on what I think are illusory climate targets and it's driving up prices for commodities that go into housing very dramatically. And I think that is a fundamental economic problem that goes with the others that we've been discussing that just have tanked his popularity. And again, I think this is the same lesson we had from November 5th here in the United States that the insistence on climate change as the most existential threat to the United States or to Canada just simply isn't resonating with voters. They don't want to live this way. They want plentiful, affordable energy. They want readily available, affordable housing. I mean, these are pretty basic needs that this extreme agenda

related to climate issues is making untenable. All right. Well, Victoria, thank you so much for coming on. Absolutely a pleasure. Thank you, Georgia. That was Victoria Coates, vice president of national security and foreign policy at the Heritage Foundation. And this has been a Sunday edition of Morning Wire.