Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - “Alexa, Let’s Go to Outer Space”
Episode Date: April 2, 2026On the heels of the Artemis II launch and SpaceX’s confidential filing to go public, Amazon is reportedly looking to acquire Globalstar as it works on its own satellite internet ambitions. Our analy...st team also takes a look at the economy through the lens of luxury furniture retailer RH before closing the show out by answering a question from our mailbag about good investing books for beginners. Tyler Crowe, Matt Frankel, and Jon Quast discuss: - Amazon’s reported interest in Globalstar - RH and housing trends - Best investing books for beginners Companies discussed: Amazon (AMZN), Globalstar (GSAT), Nike (NKE), RH (RH), Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A)(BRK.B) Host: Tyler Crowe Guests: Matt Frankel, Jon Quast Engineer: Dan Boyd Disclosure: Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. The Motley Fool and its affiliates (collectively, “TMF”) do not endorse, recommend, or verify the accuracy or completeness of the statements made within advertisements. TMF is not involved in the offer, sale, or solicitation of any securities advertised herein and makes no representations regarding the suitability, or risks associated with any investment opportunity presented. Investors should conduct their own due diligence and consult with legal, tax, and financial advisors before making any investment decisions. TMF assumes no responsibility for any losses or damages arising from this advertisement. We’re committed to transparency: All personal opinions in advertisements from Fools are their own. The product advertised in this episode was loaned to TMF and was returned after a test period or the product advertised in this episode was purchased by TMF. Advertiser has paid for the sponsorship of this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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the space industry is moving at light speed this is Motley Fool Money
welcome to Motley Fool Money I'm Tyler Crowe and today I'm joined by longtime
contributors, Matt Frankel and John Klost. Got a pretty full schedule here. We're going to talk
about RH, what used to be Restoration Hardware and its struggles, kind of following up from
yesterday's discussion about Nike. We're going to get some listener questions, but we wanted to get
started first with space and space investing in particular. It has been one heck of a week when
we talk about space in general. Just yesterday, the Artemis II launch, which, look, it happened.
I don't care how many times we see rocket launches. Those things are wicked cool to watch.
Yeah. And not to brag, but as a Floridian, I got to see the Artemis launch from my front yard
yesterday. Me and my nine-year-old ran outside right after we watched the countdown on YouTube.
Man, I'm pumped about space right now. And talk about seeing smoke. There is a lot of
smoke happening in the industry of space as well. I mean, we've talked about the SpaceX IPO. We've
mentioned it before in our IPO show. And this week, that chatter is getting louder and louder
by the day. So it seems like the SpaceX IPO is coming pretty soon. And also in space news today,
satellite company Global Star is up about 8% as we tape on rumors that Amazon is looking to acquire
it. Now, one of the deals that we saw recently, I want to say in the past year or so, or maybe
even further back, was SpaceX acquiring Spectrum from EchoStar. It's basically the ability to use
broadband spectrum for communications. In doing so, it established the ability for SpaceX to
use cellular data transmission via satellite. Now, I'm not saying this is precisely why SpaceX
made that happen, and I'm not saying that's precisely why Amazon is making this acquisition
of GlobalStar. But GlobalStar does have a very large spectrum license for the next 15 years.
So, Matt, I have to imagine that was part of the deal.
Simply put, Amazon needs to scale its satellite, build out faster. They have grand plans. I think
the latest number I saw was 3,200 satellites of its own it wants to get into orbit to rival
Starlink, but it's not there yet. Starlink, just to put it in perspective, has over 10,000 active
satellites. Amazon has about 200. Acquiring GlobalStar and its Spectrum licenses would
speed up the timeframe because that's something, no matter how much money you have, you just can't
speed that up. John is going to dive into GlobalStar's business a little more in a bit,
but it does own valuable Spectrum licenses, as Tyler said. It's almost certainly a big reason
that Amazon's interested here. Like I mentioned, these are highly regulated. They require years of
navigating regulation, not only in the U.S., but all over the world. Global Star holds licenses
for valuable spectrum in more than 120 countries around the world. It does help accelerate the
timeline of what Amazon's trying to do. It certainly seems like there's some
sort of trail here as to spectrum and making this a much more prominent part of the business.
Now, look, the deal isn't finished yet. Like I said, this was a lot of rumors and the stock
is up on rumors and we don't have a price tag on it but at the same time global star is about an
eight billion dollar company and it's not like for a company the size of amazon that there are huge
valuation concerns here for acquiring this it's not certainly gonna not gonna break amazon's bank
to make an eight billion dollar acquisition so with that in mind like what opportunity do you
see here for amazon the stock is this something that's a real needle mover or is it more like a
hey this is nice to have but i'm not building my investment thesis around it like when i think of
amazon i i think of like prime video you can agree or disagree anyone you like but i don't think
anyone's building a investment thesis on amazon based on it has prime video and something like
global starts sort of feels like on that level i think that's fair tyler you're not building an
investment thesis around this necessarily but amazon does have space aspirations i think what
this does that has value for Amazon is that it gets it a revenue stream from space that's reliable
while it tries to build out that space business. Breaking down GlobalStar's business is actually
pretty fascinating here. A single customer accounted for 63% of revenue in 2025. We don't
know for sure, but that customer is likely Apple. Apple owns 20% of the business. It owns 85% of
GlobalStar's capacity, or at the very least, 85% of the capacity is dedicated to one customer.
That customer is likely Apple. What is interesting here is, when we think about the monetization
of space, everybody wants to do space, but the monetization aspect gets tricky on the edges.
This is something that GlobalStar does provide Apple with, the SOS emergency signal. That is
actually a pretty important thing. It's a valuable business. We have one of the most
important, valuable companies in the world in Apple locked in as this global star customer
and locked in for the long term. If you're Amazon, I get this space business, a reliable
income stream from space as I continue to push forward with my own aspirations. I think that
that's the valuable thing here for Amazon. First, to Tyler's point, Prime Video should
be a part of the thesis, more so than a lot of people think. It's a big part of Amazon's
advertising platform, which is one of the fastest-growing and most profitable parts of the
business. We'll leave that for another conversation. But to me, Amazon space investments are a nice to
have. I'm an Amazon shareholder, and 100% of my thesis is built around the e-commerce platform
and AWS. There's a solid argument to be made that Amazon building out its satellite account would be
a big competitive advantage for AWS. Microsoft and Alphabet, which are the two closest competitors,
they don't have that. These satellite capabilities, they can remove geographical constraints at the
edge. Right now, their reach is limited to where the internet goes. And it'll let Amazon's
customers move data without using the public internet at all, something its competitors can't
offer. So it can be a competitive advantage that helps AWS keep or even grow its already
leading market share. So it could be a very nice thesis driver, but right for now, it's a nice to
have. I would say at the most generous, I think this acquisition and Amazon's budding space
business is extremely early. I wouldn't even say early innings. It's like watching the pitcher
warm up before the game even starts in terms of early innings here. So it could be a fascinating
thing to watch because clearly Amazon or Jeff Bezos as the chairman has had very ambitious
plans for space with Blue Origin, which isn't necessarily tied to Amazon, but it's clearly
something that Jeff Bezos has wanted to do. And I have to imagine that somewhere that is embedded
in the DNA of Amazon.
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Shares of RH, which used to be called Restoration Hardware,
I think I like the older name better,
shares plunged about 19% yesterday
after the company reported earnings and offered guidance.
John, was it the guidance or the earnings
that really had the market saying no thank you
to whatever management had to say?
Well, the earnings were not fantastic, but definitely the guidance is a big part of what's
going on with RH and investors' adverse reaction to the report. Basically here, if you look ahead
to the first quarter, it just reported fourth quarter results. But if you look ahead to the
first quarter, it's looking at a sales decline. And this is after already a couple of years of
just kind of mediocre, lackluster results. But then guidance for the year is modestly positive.
And so if you take that in combination, what management is saying is, hey, our business
trends are actually about to get worse, but don't worry, they'll be better before the end of the
year. And I think just as an outsider perspective, I think the management has cried wolf one too
many times here in recent years. What I mean by that is, it seems like that is routinely now the
guidance. Things are about to be bad, but don't worry, it'll pick up in a couple of quarters.
Investors just aren't buying it right now. Everything that drives RH's business, housing
prices, interest rates, even the stock market, all of these things are trending in the wrong
direction. That's the point here. It's doing okay under the circumstances, but it's not great
being under the circumstances, and investors don't know when the circumstances will get better.
I don't think that it was buying what management was selling, and that's why the stock is down
after the report. Well, you can certainly say that the report is a continuing trend that we've
seen with RH, because this is not anything new. Over the past five years, shares of RH are down
81%. And I don't care how you slice it, that is not good. Now, there's clearly some internal
problems, as you said, John. And there's some broader macro problems as well. And because this
is furniture mostly and home goods and things like that, people buy furniture when they buy a
new home or move. That tends to be the most frequent time that these purchases happen.
The challenges existing homes in the United States from 2022 to today are at about the same rate that
we saw from 2008 to 2012, when we had that thing called the Great Recession going on and housing
was not in a great place. Now, at the same time, retail struggling and businesses struggling with
their turnarounds is not a new story. I mean, yesterday, Travis, Lou, and Raystral were talking
about Nike and their seemingly multi-year turnaround strategy that hasn't quite gained
traction yet it seems to be like where rh is in a similar position so look we know it's some sort
of combination and like if i were to just ask which one is it we would all say it's a combination of
both so i'm going to make you guys be a little more specific here i want you to put percentages
to when you look at this situation how much of a percentage is it's the company and its problems
versus it's just a really bad market and how would you break that kind of share into what to blame
for RH's woes. Before I give my percentages, as you mentioned, the housing market is pretty
terrible right now, and that's weighing on the business for sure. It isn't just that people
aren't moving into new homes and buying furniture for their new home, but people are largely not
tapping into their home equity to complete big home purchases. That's generally talked about
with projects like building a new deck and renovating a kitchen. But it also is a very
common source of funding if people want to replace a few rooms worth of furniture. Because
of interest rates, that's generally not happening right now. Plus, with the inflationary pressures
over the past few years, economic concerns, consumers are generally feeling squeezed,
especially when it comes to making nice-to-have purchases like updating furniture. Although
the company missed estimates, there's an argument to be made that 4% year-over-year revenue
growth in this environment isn't that terrible. But there are some things not to like about the
company. Its debt levels are high. I feel like management should be a little more conservative
right now when it comes to investing for growth and really trying to innovate in this type of
environment. In all, I would say 70-30 market versus company. Yeah. Maybe I'm being a little
bit too harsh here, but I'd put it closer to 50-50. But I agree with everything that Matt
just said, it is true. The housing market is a huge reason that RH's business isn't booming
like investors hoped. There's only so much that the company can do in that environment.
And management does point out, as Matt alluded to, that it is growing or producing results that
are better than many of its peers. So I guess give it a little bit of credit there. It's a
hard market to be in. But what is interesting is the numbers do look particularly weak right now
because of what Matt just said. Management isn't very conservative when it's building out to the
long-term vision of the company, and it's continuing to invest like business is booming.
And so, look, we are long-term investors. We do like it when our companies take a long-term view,
but I think that does contribute to the numbers perhaps looking worse than they need to be right
now because it is investing still so much in what it wants to do. Now, what does it want to do?
RH aims for $5.8 billion in revenue in 2030. That would be up 70% in five years from what
it just turned in in 2025. In the past, it's had operating margins of around 20%. That's
what it's aiming for. Definitely not there now. But look, if things go swimmingly, according
to management's plan, there's a scenario where RH could be generating $1 billion in operating
income within five years. It only has a market cap of $2 billion right now. But the thing
is, as Matt pointed out, it is using debt. It is using a sale-leaseback strategy, which kind of
ups the ante a little bit. It's buying these opulent properties. These are financial moves
that are anything but conservative. So if RH does succeed, it's making great moves right now.
But the outcome is becoming increasingly binary. If it fails to hit its goals, it's really put
itself in a tough financial position. Coming up after the break, we're getting into the mailbag
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here. John's having some technical difficulties, but we're going to soldier on and we're going to
talk about our last mailbag question here. Just before we do that, though, we want to make you
part of the conversation. If you have a stock or an investing question for Matt, John, myself,
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mailbag segments whenever possible, like this one we're about to do. So send in your questions.
just remember to keep them foolish. That email again is podcasts at fool.com,
podcasts at fool.com. So our email question comes in today from Jack Quinn. And this is probably one
of the favorite ones that we always get because I think I've answered this one before in live
events and things like that. And it's always a fun one to do. And Jack asks, newer listener here
and newer investor as well, aside from listening to The Motley Fool, is there any books you
recommend for beginner or amateur investors to get a better understanding of the markets,
stocks, et cetera. Thanks. So before we get into that, we do have to mention that The Motley Fool,
our founders, Tom and David Gardner, have written several books. We have The Motley Fool Investing
Guide, Rule Breakers, Rule Makers, and David Gardner also wrote a book recently, Rule Breaker
Investing. So there's lots of options in The Motley Fool universe already, but we're going to
step away from that for a second and focus on some non Motley Fool books. And I'll do mine first.
And mine is one up on wall street by Peter Lynch. Uh, this, I think for beginner investors,
this is kind of that one that gets you inspired to want to invest. I remember the, the sensation
I had after reading that book was I wanted to run through a wall to invest in the market after
reading about this book. It kind of explains how using your expertise in whatever field you have
before you got into investing can be an extremely valuable tool and how you can use that as an
example of making better decisions and how to invest in the market and how he did it for
several years running a fund called the Magellan Fund at Fidelity. I've always been a big fan too
of the Intelligent Investor, but I would also say that is probably not the one that is a first-time
reader. It's a little bit of a dry read, so keep that in mind. Not to discount John's part,
because he wasn't able to join us, but the book that he recommended was The Psychology of Money
by Morgan Housel. Matt, what did you have? You already mentioned my favorite investing
book, one up on Wall Street. The Intelligent Investor is absolutely a great one. It's by
Warren Buffett's mentor, Benjamin Graham, but not great for first-timers, I agree.
But since you already mentioned my favorite, I'll add that one of the best ways to learn
as a newer investor is by reading all of Warren Buffett's annual letters to Berkshire Hathaway
shareholders. He's been writing them for decades, or he was writing them for decades. He wrote his
last one last year. There are certainly some company-specific business discussions specific
to Berkshire, but he generally spent about half of each letter talking about important investing
principles, lessons he's learned, like how index fund investing can be a great tool,
how to avoid excessive fees when you're investing, how to have the right mentality in stock market
crashes and corrections and recessions, and a whole lot more. Now, his letters have been compiled
into books that you can buy, but they are all available for free at berkshirehathaway.com,
right on their website. And because they're relatively short, you can read one here,
one there and just pick up some lessons as you go. Great thing for first-time investors to read.
Also, just a slight aside, I think Berkshire Hathaway's website is probably in a horse race
with craigslist.org as the put me in a time capsule and send me back to the internet in 2005
in terms of web pages and graphics and stuff like that. It is not the most updated site and
kind of almost a nostalgia, which I think is a fun little side. So we've got the Berkshire
Letters, we've got the psychology of money, and one up on Wall Street, three great options for
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