Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - AMC’s Drama and the Future of Restaurants
Episode Date: June 4, 2021AMC Entertainment takes investors on a wild ride. DocuSign, Five Below, Lululemon, and Zoom Video report strong earnings. Twitter launches a subscription service. Etsy makes a big buy. And enterprise ...search company Elastic gets a nice bounce on earnings. Motley Fool analysts Emily Flippen and Jason Moser discuss those stories and share two stocks on their radar: Brazilian payment processor StoneCo and hardware and software maker Trimble. Plus, restaurant industry expert David Henkes talks winners and losers, the importance of chicken sandwiches, and why investors should expect more restaurants to go public. Looking for more stocks for your radar? Get 50% off our Stock Advisor service just by going to http://RadarStocks.fool.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Chris Hill. Everybody needs money. That's why they call it money.
From Fool Global Headquarters, this is Motley Fool Money.
It's the Motley Fool Money radio show. I'm Chris Hill. Joining me this week,
senior analysts Emily Flippen and Jason Moser. Good to see you both.
Good to be here.
We get the latest headlines from Wall Street, we'll get the latest on the restaurant
industry from our guest, David Henkes, and as always, we've got a couple of stocks on
our radar. But we begin with the stock of the week, AMC Entertainment. Shares of the
movie theater chain doubled this week, despite the fact that on Thursday, the company filed
to sell more than 11 million shares, which sent the stock falling more than 30% that
Emily, management is pretty clear about the fact that the stock price is divorced from the reality
of the business of AMC Entertainment. What goes through your mind when you're watching all of
this madness play out? Well, the first thing that goes through my mind is that
management is smart how they've played this. They've raised over $500 million thanks to
the surge in traders and over 80% of AMC shares are now owned by retail investors. So they're
certainly catering to that target demographic here, but that's actually not what's causing
this crazy pop. It's actually a little bit more confusing than what media makes it out to be,
which is just that all these people are flooding into AMC, that's why the stock is up in the
hundreds of percents in only a few days. It's really more about options and how options are
applying on AMC. It's a complicated process and to keep it short, essentially, the hedging
process for options are causing huge increases in the share price that are definitely going
to be temporary. What's really sad about this whole situation is that oftentimes the people
who end up suffering the burden the most are those 80% of retail shareholders in a business
like AMC. Let's move on to some earnings then.
to start with DocuSign up more than 15% on Friday after first quarter profits and revenue were higher
than expected. The electronic signature company also provided upbeat guidance. Jason, I know this
company did well during the pandemic when everyone was doing business remotely, but DocuSign really
seems like it is set to thrive during the great reopening as well. Oh, yeah. It feels like
this has gone from just a helpful way to get through a difficult time to absolutely just the
way people want to do business now. It's very hard to find anything wrong with what's going on here
with DocuSign. It's not just the e-signature company anymore. I think that's been the gateway
drug, if you will, that really gets customers in and it hooks them for all of the other capabilities
that they're building out with the agreement cloud. The numbers all show that the strategy
is working. Top-line growth of 58% for the quarter. They raised guidance again. This is
going to be a $2 billion revenue company by year's end with 80% gross margins, a massive suite of
offerings, and still a lot of share to capture. I understand the profitability concerns, but let's
give them a little leeway here because they're making the right investments. Total customers
now just under $1 million. It was up from 661,000 a year ago. Enterprise customers now at 136,000.
That's up from 89,000 just a year ago. International now becoming a bigger part
of the business here, just crossed over the $100 million mark for the quarter.
Again, dollar net retention rate, 125%. So, they're keeping their customers and they're
growing those relationships, operating leverage becoming very apparent in the business. In this
little acquisition that they made recently, a little startup called Claws, I think just shows
the position that they're in now. This is one of the market leaders and they're going to be able
to consolidate and bring those neat little startups into their family and build out their capabilities.
A lot of things to really be optimistic about with DocuSign. First quarter revenue for Lululemon
Atletico rose 88%. The apparel retailer also raised guidance for the full fiscal year.
The stock was treading water this week, Emily, but these seem like the kind of results and
guidance you would want to see if you were a Lululemon shareholder.
Emily Flippen This was a really incredible quarter for Lululemon,
but I'm not sure how much of it was truly a surprise. I think anybody with eyes or any
shareholder of Lululemon knew that there were clear tailwinds for this business as stores
began to reopen, especially as we head into the spring and the summer months. The fact that they
had earnings and revenue that beat expectations alongside raising full-year guidance and second
quarter guidance really didn't take the market by surprise. What did take me by surprise though,
was just looking at the two-year strength and numbers for their men's and international
businesses. That's going to be critical for driving growth and justifying today's valuation
of Lululemon. And men's is still growing faster on a two-year basis than their women's business
right now. Admittedly, it's coming off of a smaller base there, but that does go to show
that a lot of the growth is going to be convincing more people that, hey, we aren't just a leggings
company, despite the fact that that's how media likes to present Lululemon. They're a business
that caters to athleisure across all demographics, all across the world. If management's able to
make good on their claim that they aim to have a 50-50 international North America split in terms
of revenue for their business over the long term, this could be a great stock to own.
Was there any talk on the call about Mirror, which is the company they acquired last year
to compete with Peloton? Over the holidays, we saw a lot of marketing push from Lululemon
about Mirror. I'm seeing a lot more from NordicTrack these days in terms of trying to
compete with Peloton, less so with Mirror. Mirror has always not intended to take away
from the ownership of the market for the Pelotons and the NordicTrack, but rather add to it. It's
a completely differentiated product. What's interesting about the way that Lululemon and
their management team talks about Mirror is that it actually operates as a funnel into a kind of
culture, a lifestyle brand that is Lululemon. Somebody can own both a Mirror and a Nordic
Trek or a Peloton. So it's additive the way that I see it, but also importantly, it's going to be
additive to their business structure. It won't move the needle this year, but they're adding
$200 million to $300 million on their top line from the acquisition of Mirror expected. So
we'll continue to watch that hopefully grow over the next few quarters.
Shares of Zoom Video are still down from their high for the year, but up a bit this week
after first quarter revenue grew 191%. The growth is slowing, Jason, but a year ago,
one of the big questions about Zoom Video was, how many of these customers can they
keep? It looks like they're doing a pretty good job answering that question.
Yeah, I like that this follows our DocuSign coverage because this feels very DocuSign-esque
and how they're iterating and ultimately writing their second act.
I mean, the video chat for Zoom has been the gateway, much like e-signature has been for DocuSign.
But now it's about building out a platform and allowing companies and customers to do more,
to be more productive with these tools that Zoom has built, to be able to work in what ultimately is becoming a hybrid world, right?
A hybrid workforce world.
And so, examples, I mean, they've launched a video SDK.
They launched that in February. They announced a $100 million apps fund in order to help
build out their app presence, ultimately letting users bring their favorite apps directly into
the Zoom experience in a way that inspires more collaboration and boosts efficiency.
They just closed out their largest deal ever in terms of annualized recurring revenue with
a leading global financial services firm. That actually resulted in Zoom getting over 90,000
hosts, which obviously is a large number, and also called out some big customers in Kimberley
Target and a company called Denso, which is probably unfamiliar to most of us,
but that's the world's second largest auto parts company. When you look at the numbers,
sure, growth is slowing down, but 191% revenue growth is nothing to sneer at. They are still
calling for ultimately about 50% growth overall for the year. To your point, they are keeping
a lot of those customers that they're bringing in. They ended the quarter with just under
2,000 customers, generating more than $100,000 in trailing 12 months revenue. Again, that
dollar expansion rate for customers with more than 10 employees, that was over 130% for the
12th consecutive quarter. So again, bringing customers in, keeping them, growing those
relationships. I suspect that this is really still just the beginning for what is becoming
a very, very fun story to watch play out. Etsy has a new acquisition and Twitter has a new way
to make money. And one of them is definitely more impressive than the other. Details after
the break, so stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here with Emily Flippen and Jason Moser.
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and starting this weekend on News Radio 93.9 in Springfield, Illinois. Shout out to the capital
city. Let's get back to the news of the week. Twitter introduced its first ever subscription
offering Twitter Blue. For a few bucks a month, Twitter Blue offers dedicated customer support,
easier ways to read long threads, among other features. Twitter's going to be rolling this
out in Australia and Canada. Jason, no word yet on when it will be available in the U.S.
Shares of Twitter basically flat on this news. Well, I'm going to make a prognostication here,
Chris. I think that Twitter Blue is going to finish up in the red. I must say here,
I'm not very impressed. I'm going to try to be diplomatic about this because I do like Twitter.
For a time, clearly, I was very bullish on the company, its potential. I think the real risk
here, though, and I certainly feel this way as a user, that this Twitter Blue, it's very
underwhelming. Frankly, these are features that I would have expected to see them rolling out
over the course of the past few years as just part of the free user experience.
For a long time, the criticism was that they just didn't move quickly. I think that was a
valid criticism. Now, they're starting to move, but hey, you know what? They want to charge you
for it. Well, at least give me something that's worth paying for, because this stuff that they're
rolling out here, the ability to roll back tweets or organize tweets, it just doesn't seem like it's
worth paying for. If you look at how this ends up impacting the business, I feel like I'm giving
them a lot of credit for maybe getting 5 million paying users from all of this. You're talking
about $200 million in incremental revenue, not very meaningful at the top line, certainly should
be high margin dollars. There could be some lessons they glean from this, but I'm just having
a hard time seeing the Twitter subscription as being ultimately very successful.
What malarkey? What malarkey is that, Jason? Goodness gracious.
What do you mean? It's not valuable.
Have you already signed up? The ability to undo tweets alone
is the most valuable thing Twitter has rolled out over the past five years.
I'm sensing sarcasm. It's not sarcastic at all.
I actually think that there is a world in which Twitter Blue is very successful. Now,
I will be the first to admit, you tweet way more than I do, Jason. But if I was a tweeter
more than I am today, I would value a lot of these things.
Etsy is making its biggest acquisition ever. The company announced this week it is buying
Depop, a secondhand fashion marketplace, for $1.6 billion. Emily, you like the deal for Etsy?
I love this deal for Etsy. I am so excited, Chris, because it has been forever since I've
seen a great business make an acquisition of this size mainly in cash. And as a shareholder,
I love to see businesses making acquisitions in cash because they're essentially taking on
all the risk of the synergies that would arise from this acquisition, as opposed to acquiring
with shares, in which case that buck is kind of passed on to me as a shareholder. So I love this
acquisition, not just because it's all in cash and that makes me excited, but also because Depop
is aimed at an entirely different generation of users than Etsy has currently. The vast majority
of Etsy users right now are older than the age of 26, whereas 90% of Depop users are younger
than 26. They're focused on things like streetwear, sportswear, vintagewear, TikTok followers,
these sorts of things that really diversify Etsy's business and just show a level of underrated
optionality that I think Etsy is going to create as a platform of platforms.
Yeah, the fact that I have shopped on Etsy and had never heard of Depop before this week,
I automatically knew it was aimed at a younger audience.
Well, I tried to get on there today and just check out the platform before we taped,
and I went to their website, then realized they don't have a website, you can only use the app.
And I realized I was also too old for their target audience.
Elastic is a SaaS company that focuses on data search for businesses. Elastic's
loss in the fourth quarter was smaller than expected this week and shares up more than 13%.
Jason, this was your radar stock on last week's show. What did you think of the latest results?
Well, it's even more of a radar stock now, Chris. This is really piquing my interest.
It does feel like if you're looking for a company that's going to benefit from the
growing amounts of data that continue to be exchanged on the enterprise side, Elastic should
certainly be on your shortlist. Like you noted, they develop software and services that let their
users search through data, structured and unstructured data, to figure out all sorts
of solutions in consumer enterprise applications. With the market opportunity in the neighborhood
of $78 billion to $80 billion today, clearly still a lot of room for this business to run.
The numbers for the quarter, certainly very encouraging. Total revenue up 39%, excluding
currency effects. Revenue for the year was up 40%. Billings up 33%. So, it's continuing
to grow and it does have that subscription-style offering that we love so much that generates
that recurring revenue. As far as the key performance indicators with
a business like this, very much like DocuSign, you're looking at customers, DocuSign and
Zoom. You're looking at customers, the customer account now over 15,000, that's versus 11,300
just a year ago. A customer account with annual contract value greater than $100,000, that's
now over 730, that's up from 610 just a year ago. Ultimately, subscription revenue is where
it's at for these guys, 93% of total revenue. The net expansion rate slightly below 130%
they maintain those customers, bring new ones in, and grow that relationship. Ultimately,
they're calling for $785 million in revenue for the coming year. That's 30% growth, but they see
crossing the $1 billion figure the following year. I certainly see a pathway for this company. It's
one that I continue to dig in more. It's a $12 billion company,
they're not profitable yet. Do you have, for a company like this, your own timeline in terms
of when you want to see them getting closer to profitability?
I try not to hold their feet to the fire too much these days, just because so many
of these businesses are just getting started. Listen, when you have a business that's crossing
over $1 billion in revenue, I'd like to start seeing them extract some profitability from
their particular with the operating leverage you can get from a model like this, but we'll give
them a little wiggle room. After a mostly down week,
shares of Five Below rebounded on Friday after first quarter profits and revenue both came in
higher than Wall Street was expecting. Same-store sales for the discount retailer rose 162%.
Emily, let's face it, not every retailer survived the pandemic.
Five Below appears to have made it through the storm.
Emily Flippen. Chris, I wasn't going to pull out those yearly numbers with
same-store sales up 162%, revenue up 167% because those numbers are so meaningless.
But since you brought it into the conversation, let's talk about that. Coming off of what was
a really challenging year for most retailers, Five Below being one of them, their stores,
unlike a lot of other stores, were shut down for extended periods of time. They were not
an essential retailer for a period of time before they started to reopen. So, Five Below is coming
off the back of what was a rather dark year for the business coming into the light of
post-pandemic life. But even if you look at it over the two-year basis, which is the better
comparison, this is an outstanding business. Sales were up 64% on the two-year basis in
comparison to 2019, earnings were up 91%, and same-store sales were up 23%. That was
driven by double-digit ticket growth, even with stores having reduced hours. Extremely
impressive business. Big question is, can they continue to grow store count like they
have over the past two years? Emily Flippen, Jason Moser, we
will see you later in the show. Who are the winners and losers in the restaurant industry?
Why should investors expect more restaurants to go public over the next few years? The
to those questions and more from industry expert David Henkes right after the break.
So stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill. Few businesses have been as challenged
over the past 15 months, as much as restaurants. Here to give us an update on the current state
of the industry and more is David Henkes. He is a senior principal at Technomic,
one of the top experts in the industry, and he joins me now from where else? His home in Chicago.
David, good to talk to you. Good to talk to you, Chris. Thanks for having me.
So the last time you and I talked, it was last July. At the time, the forecast for the year
was restaurants being down in the neighborhood 20% to 30%. Here we are 11 months later.
How's the forecast for 2021 looking? Well, the forecast for 2021 is actually
looking really positive. And we're in the process of re-looking at our numbers because the first
quarter of 2021 has just blown the roof off of all of our expectations, I think. You look at the
public chain reports, you look at some of the distributor numbers, Cisco US Foods, PFG, that
report public numbers everyone seems to be having a really good year now to some degree it's pantry
restocking it's getting ready for sort of a an influx of pent-up demand that that we're seeing
but to some degree consumers are just coming out and they've got money to spend and they're ready
to go and so we think this year is going to be a good year we're going to be revising our forecasts
up slightly. I'm not sure exactly how much yet, uh, but we're looking at a, uh, a 2021, uh, of
probably, I don't even want to put a number on it right now, but we're looking at probably
double digit growth and, and significantly more in places like fast food and, and fast casual.
And some of those that, that never really declined particularly to a large degree during the
pandemic are going to continue to do well, and we're going to see a big bounce back in full
service restaurants. So it's going to be a good year. One of the big storylines for the industry
over the past month has been about hiring difficulties. A lot of restaurants, whether
it's local mom and pop shops or some of the national chains, really seem to be having trouble
staffing up. What does it look like to you and your colleagues at Technomic? Is this something
that is just sort of a natural speed bump coming out of this pandemic, and two months from now,
everyone's going to be fine? Or is this a sustainable challenge for some of these?
I think when you look at the big roadblocks to a potential full-blown recovery in 2021,
there's really two big things we're watching, and they're somewhat interrelated. The first is labor.
Right now, there's a lot of different causes, and so you can't necessarily track it back. You talk
to some restaurants, they'll tell you people, you know, they're, they're, uh, getting government
benefits. It's hard to match that. You know, the effective rate of some of the people with
unemployment benefits is something like 15 to $17 an hour, uh, that they're earning on
unemployment. And so restaurants are, are unable in some cases to match that, but you also just
run into a situation where there's people that don't want to come back to restaurants who,
you know, I mean, working in restaurants in the best of times is a tough spot to be in at times.
And some people have moved on to other jobs, to Amazon, to gig work. And so, you know, there's a
number of things at play. And I think, you know, the pandemic, there's still people that maybe
aren't quite willing to come back to restaurants. So labor is a huge issue. And we're seeing,
you know, supply and demand that the demand for labor is well outpacing the supply. And what
that's doing is it's driving up wages, right? So a lot of talk in the industry about, you know,
I mean, there's, there's this fight for 15 and there's a lot of government initiatives around,
uh, raising minimum wages. It's, it's almost happening now, um, you know, because of market
forces. And you could argue some of the government is involved in that with, with some of the
benefits, but restaurants are having a hard time and they're having to increase pay as a result.
So that's a, that's a huge watch out because what ends up happening with capacity a lot of times is
that, you know, if, if you're going full guns on a Friday night, but you can't open a part of your
restaurant because you don't have enough servers to, to do it, or you, you know, you're, you don't
have the sous chef in the back or you don't have, you know, the you know, the, the bus boys. I mean,
it's going to be an issue. The other thing that we're concerned about is the cost environment.
Now, this relates as well to labor because costs are going through the roof with a lot of things
and labor included. But there's been a huge supply chain challenge over the past 12 months.
Shortages, delays, you know, certainly the, you know, a lot of people talk about the Suez as if
that was sort of the start of it, but it wasn't. I mean, this has been an issue really since the
beginning of the pandemic as supply chains have been stretched and pulled in ways that nobody
ever expected. And so the cost environment, the labor situation are both two big watchouts that
could have a material impact on the recovery this year. Are there any chains that have been able to
take advantage of the fact that a lot of smaller chains, a lot of mom and pop restaurants just had
to shut their doors, in some cases permanently. Have some of the larger chains been able to
capitalize on that and maybe expand their footprint at an accelerated rate?
Let's put it this way. We track the top 500 restaurant chains as part of our ongoing
tracking of about 1,500 operators, but we publish the top 500 in a report called, oddly enough,
our top 500 restaurant reports. And so you look at restaurant sales last year, uh, overall
restaurants declined about 18 and a half percent. The overall food service industry was down about
25, but restaurants were down about 18 and a half percent. Uh, when you look at the chain part of
the market, it was only down 8%. So right away and, you know, and you'd say, okay, wait, 8%,
they're still declining, but fast food chains only declined 1%. Fast casual chains declined
about 5%. And then, you know, the sit down chains were anywhere from probably 25 to 40%.
So when you talk about winners and losers, you look and you say fast food as an industry
only declare as a chain part of the industry only declined 1%. And then you start to peel
back the onion and say, who did well? Chick-fil-A up 13%. Domino's up 18%. Some of the other pizza
chains, Papa John's, let me look at their number here. Papa John's was up 16%. And so a lot of the
pizza delivery chicken players did extremely well, but even McDonald's, right? McDonald's is a
40 and a half billion dollar chain, they actually grew 0.3%. And so the big chains that were able
to especially take advantage of their drive-thrus or that focused on delivery or to a smaller degree
takeout absolutely grew their share. And in fact, if you look at our top 500, last year in 2019,
pre-pandemic full service chains were about 24% of the makeup of the chain market. That declined
to 18%. So fast food or limited service restaurants more generally, really, you know, and again,
you know, many of them declined, but a lot of them grew and grew at double digit pace. And so,
you know, I think our sense more generally is that the big chains, those with financial
a wherewithal to make it, to withstand some of the challenges, to invest in technology.
Those are the ones that are really better positioned coming out. The other thing that
I think it's important to note is that when you talk about unit closures, right, and we're still
trying to get our arms around unit closures, but for the most part, restaurants and especially
restaurant chains didn't really close that many units. And so what we thought would be this blood
subbath of, you know, really, you know, closing a ton of units, probably the biggest of the top
10 chains that closed the most units was Subway. They closed about seven and a half percent of
their locations. But listen, Subway has been challenged for a long time. And so you can't
attribute all of that to the pandemic. But, you know, Chick-fil-A grew seven percent in terms of
locations. Dunkin' grew. I'm sorry, they declined. Domino's grew four percent in terms of their
locations. And so, you know, even in a pandemic, you had some operators not only maintaining or
growing their sales, but in some cases were investing in growing their location counts as
well. And so, you know, coming out of the pandemic, these chains that didn't have to close
as many locations as we thought, and that with, you know, withstood and held up with their sales
better, invested in technology, you know, they're going to be certainly well positioned and have
been well-positioned, and a look at their recent same-store sales would prove that point out,
that they've really done pretty well. A year ago, the hot item was chicken wings.
Restaurants that didn't even specialize were adding wings to the menu because they worked
for takeout and delivery. Are chicken sandwiches now the new chicken wings? Because it really
seems like it's not just the fast food restaurants that are angling for this market.
Well, I would probably argue that chicken sandwiches have been it for the last several years. Right. I mean, and you're right. I mean, you know, every major quick service restaurant is now competing, you know, in this chicken sandwich war.
You know, I mean, I think they've all looked at the growth and I just referenced a Chick-fil-A that continues to do well. Right. And so, you know, all of these chicken players, you know, KFCs come out with them and, you know, and all of these players that that are chicken, that makes sense.
but then McDonald's and Burger King and now Chili's just came out with one, right?
And so, you know, and what makes it interesting is because a lot of these chains are now competing
on delivery to some degree, whether you're a fast food restaurant or a sit-down restaurant
doesn't matter as much anymore because the consumers are just ordering them on their
phone, right?
So you can order a Chili's chicken sandwich just as easily as you can order a Chick-fil-A
sandwich and both of them are going to be brought to your door and both of them are
delicious.
and so chicken sandwiches have really become sort of ground zero in terms of the restaurant battle
right now and and almost to the extent that it's comical that you know i mean it's like every week
somebody else is rolling out a new chicken sandwich and and you know and listen by the way
i think they're all pretty good right i mean you have them and you know personal tastes may vary
but you know at some point you got to say that there's a sort of a you know a sort of declining
utility in offering these chicken sandwiches. Now that said, chicken restaurants last year,
the KFCs and Chick-fil-A's grew 10%. And so in a pandemic, the chicken category,
not chicken as a product, but the chicken style restaurants or chicken restaurants that we
classify as chicken restaurants grew 10% last year, the fastest of anything. And so consumers
love their chicken, they continue to vote with their wallets, and it doesn't seem like there's
any end in sight in terms of consumers' insatiable demand for chicken. Over the past decade,
investors have seen a lot of publicly traded restaurants being taken private, Panera Bread,
Dunkin', among them. Later this month, Krispy Kreme is going to get its second act as a public
company. Should we expect a more successful second act for Krispy Kreme? And should investors
expect more restaurants being spun out into the public markets over the next decade?
You know, it's a really good question. And, you know, when you look at Krispy Kreme,
you know, it's German ownership. I mean, they've really righted the ship. I mean,
it was taken private because they had overextended themselves and overexpanded.
uh and you know and when it was acquired it was you know it was it was struggling right and so
they've turned it around um i think when you look at the investment you know there are a lot of what
we call these facts these special purpose acquisition companies that are going after
restaurants and a lot of them are publicly traded or they're publicly traded shell companies that
are acquiring restaurants and so i i do think you know perhaps it's not an ipo in the traditional
sense, but there's going to be a lot more publicly traded entities that invest in restaurants
and give investors more of an opportunity. Now, I think, you know, you know, and I don't offer
investment advice unlike you guys. And so I, you know, I don't want to necessarily tell you to
invest in anything, but listen, we're at a point right now where the next several years for
restaurant growth is probably going to be pretty explosive coming off of, you know, the worst year
probably ever in terms of the restaurant industry. Now, individual company performance is going to
vary. But I think that a lot of people are looking at this as a buying opportunity because there's
distressed assets. There's a lot of, you know, chains or restaurant companies more generally
carrying a lot of debt. And so, you know, the extent to which investors either, you know,
in a lot of private equity, but again, these SPACs or, you know, other investors,
there's going to be a lot more activity happening over the next couple of years and, you know,
probably some IPOs as a result of that. Last thing, and then I'll let you go.
We talked recently on the show about the partnership between Pringles and Wendy's
for the limited edition chip made to taste like Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich. These things
come across your radar all the time. Have you seen anything recently that you're particularly
either excited about or horrified by? Well, I think, Chris, part of the challenge
me answering that is we work with a lot of these companies, right? And so, I've seen a lot of
things that horrify me. I don't necessarily want to talk about it. But sometimes they work, right?
That's the thing. There are absolutely these things that you or I or anyone else could look
at and think, boy, that doesn't look like it would taste very good. And they're a hit for
some of these chains. Yeah, we see these mashups happening. And so, I think a lot of it is around
And, you know, there's two different ways, you know, restaurants are kind of investing in that, right?
They're working with a CPG company to get something into their grocery shelves.
But then there's also a lot of menu innovation where they're just doing crazy flavors or doing things.
And, you know, Yum! Brands and, you know, some of these QSRs are notorious for that.
And, you know, and really what they're doing is trying to create buzz and trying to create something, especially for the younger consumer, right?
I mean, they're looking to break through social media, break through sort of the word
of mouth that a lot of younger consumers, you know, how they communicate now on, you
know, on the different social media channels and really create something that is, that
is buzz worthy.
And so it's almost to the point where the flavors are beside the point, right?
It's, it's having something that is crazy, unique and new that people are going to talk
about. And, you know, sort of if it works, great. But the primary benefit of all of that is just to
get people talking about you and your brand. And I think that's probably what's driving a lot of
that. You want to know more about the restaurant industry, there is no one better to be following
on Twitter or reading his stuff. David Hankes, thanks so much for your time.
Thanks, Chris. I appreciate it. Up next, Emily Flippen and Jason Moser return with a couple of
stocks on their radar. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about,
The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against, so don't buy or sell stocks
based solely on what you hear. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here once again
with Jason Moser and Emily Flippen. Just a couple of minutes to get the stocks on our radar. Our man
behind the glass, Dan Boyd, is going to hit you with a question. Jason Moser, you're up first.
What are you looking at this week? Yeah, keeping an eye on a really
good performer for us in the augmented reality beyond service. The company is called Trimble,
ticker is TRMB. They build hardware and software that's aimed at connecting the physical and
digital worlds. Focus on positioning, modeling, connectivity, data analytics. I'm keeping an eye
on the ongoing infrastructure bill negotiations here in Washington, D.C., because while the two
parties may be at odds right now on how much it's going to be, it sounds like there's going to be
something and it's going to be a big number regardless. When you look at the most recent
earnings call, CEO Robert Painter, he noted that. He said, and I quote,
we want to play offense and invest now for the mid to long-term opportunities that we see in the
market. We see a generational opportunity out of a North America infrastructure bill and a strong
commodity price backdrop in the agriculture market. So to me, listen, with the number of
end markets this company serves, I feel like this could be a sleepy reopening play, Chris.
Dan, question about Trimble? Absolutely, Jason. So it looks like this company has had a pretty
big surge in the stock price since last spring when the COVID-19 pandemic began. What can you
tell me that explains why it seems to have gone up so high in such a short time?
I just think recognizing the value proposition and the hardware and software they provide,
the switching costs involved. Once customers commit, they got to stay in there and they've
done a good job of expanding those relationships. Emily Flippen, what do you got?
I am looking at StoneCo, the ticker is S-T-N-E, their Brazilian payment processor.
They had a weaker than expected earnings report, but a lot of the pessimism is really just caught
up in COVID. You can imagine it as the square of Brazil. I think it has a lot of long-term
opportunity. Dan, question about StoneCo?
The square of Brazil? I'm surprised it's not Jason talking about this,
what with his war on cash basket. What I will say is it fits perfectly
into that war on cash basket, but it'll be critical to watch their take rates,
competition in Brazil is fierce. Dan, what do you want to add to your
watch list? I'm going to go with StoneCo
this time. I think Brazil, of course, is one of the largest emerging markets in Latin America,
and I hate cash just as much as Jason does. Is this real life?
Emily Flippen, Jason Moser, thanks so much for being here.
Thanks, Chris. That's going to do it for this
week's show. It's mixed by Dan Boyd. Our producer is Mac Greer. I'm Chris Hill. Thanks for listening.
We'll see you next week.
