Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - AMC’s Drama and the Future of Restaurants

Episode Date: June 4, 2021

AMC Entertainment takes investors on a wild ride. DocuSign, Five Below, Lululemon, and Zoom Video report strong earnings. Twitter launches a subscription service. Etsy makes a big buy. And enterprise ...search company Elastic gets a nice bounce on earnings. Motley Fool analysts Emily Flippen and Jason Moser discuss those stories and share two stocks on their radar: Brazilian payment processor StoneCo and hardware and software maker Trimble. Plus, restaurant industry expert David Henkes talks winners and losers, the importance of chicken sandwiches, and why investors should expect more restaurants to go public.   Looking for more stocks for your radar? Get 50% off our Stock Advisor service just by going to http://RadarStocks.fool.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Chris Hill. Everybody needs money. That's why they call it money. From Fool Global Headquarters, this is Motley Fool Money. It's the Motley Fool Money radio show. I'm Chris Hill. Joining me this week, senior analysts Emily Flippen and Jason Moser. Good to see you both. Good to be here. We get the latest headlines from Wall Street, we'll get the latest on the restaurant industry from our guest, David Henkes, and as always, we've got a couple of stocks on our radar. But we begin with the stock of the week, AMC Entertainment. Shares of the
Starting point is 00:00:42 movie theater chain doubled this week, despite the fact that on Thursday, the company filed to sell more than 11 million shares, which sent the stock falling more than 30% that Emily, management is pretty clear about the fact that the stock price is divorced from the reality of the business of AMC Entertainment. What goes through your mind when you're watching all of this madness play out? Well, the first thing that goes through my mind is that management is smart how they've played this. They've raised over $500 million thanks to the surge in traders and over 80% of AMC shares are now owned by retail investors. So they're certainly catering to that target demographic here, but that's actually not what's causing
Starting point is 00:01:29 this crazy pop. It's actually a little bit more confusing than what media makes it out to be, which is just that all these people are flooding into AMC, that's why the stock is up in the hundreds of percents in only a few days. It's really more about options and how options are applying on AMC. It's a complicated process and to keep it short, essentially, the hedging process for options are causing huge increases in the share price that are definitely going to be temporary. What's really sad about this whole situation is that oftentimes the people who end up suffering the burden the most are those 80% of retail shareholders in a business like AMC. Let's move on to some earnings then.
Starting point is 00:02:11 to start with DocuSign up more than 15% on Friday after first quarter profits and revenue were higher than expected. The electronic signature company also provided upbeat guidance. Jason, I know this company did well during the pandemic when everyone was doing business remotely, but DocuSign really seems like it is set to thrive during the great reopening as well. Oh, yeah. It feels like this has gone from just a helpful way to get through a difficult time to absolutely just the way people want to do business now. It's very hard to find anything wrong with what's going on here with DocuSign. It's not just the e-signature company anymore. I think that's been the gateway drug, if you will, that really gets customers in and it hooks them for all of the other capabilities
Starting point is 00:03:00 that they're building out with the agreement cloud. The numbers all show that the strategy is working. Top-line growth of 58% for the quarter. They raised guidance again. This is going to be a $2 billion revenue company by year's end with 80% gross margins, a massive suite of offerings, and still a lot of share to capture. I understand the profitability concerns, but let's give them a little leeway here because they're making the right investments. Total customers now just under $1 million. It was up from 661,000 a year ago. Enterprise customers now at 136,000. That's up from 89,000 just a year ago. International now becoming a bigger part of the business here, just crossed over the $100 million mark for the quarter.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Again, dollar net retention rate, 125%. So, they're keeping their customers and they're growing those relationships, operating leverage becoming very apparent in the business. In this little acquisition that they made recently, a little startup called Claws, I think just shows the position that they're in now. This is one of the market leaders and they're going to be able to consolidate and bring those neat little startups into their family and build out their capabilities. A lot of things to really be optimistic about with DocuSign. First quarter revenue for Lululemon Atletico rose 88%. The apparel retailer also raised guidance for the full fiscal year. The stock was treading water this week, Emily, but these seem like the kind of results and
Starting point is 00:04:30 guidance you would want to see if you were a Lululemon shareholder. Emily Flippen This was a really incredible quarter for Lululemon, but I'm not sure how much of it was truly a surprise. I think anybody with eyes or any shareholder of Lululemon knew that there were clear tailwinds for this business as stores began to reopen, especially as we head into the spring and the summer months. The fact that they had earnings and revenue that beat expectations alongside raising full-year guidance and second quarter guidance really didn't take the market by surprise. What did take me by surprise though, was just looking at the two-year strength and numbers for their men's and international
Starting point is 00:05:10 businesses. That's going to be critical for driving growth and justifying today's valuation of Lululemon. And men's is still growing faster on a two-year basis than their women's business right now. Admittedly, it's coming off of a smaller base there, but that does go to show that a lot of the growth is going to be convincing more people that, hey, we aren't just a leggings company, despite the fact that that's how media likes to present Lululemon. They're a business that caters to athleisure across all demographics, all across the world. If management's able to make good on their claim that they aim to have a 50-50 international North America split in terms of revenue for their business over the long term, this could be a great stock to own.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Was there any talk on the call about Mirror, which is the company they acquired last year to compete with Peloton? Over the holidays, we saw a lot of marketing push from Lululemon about Mirror. I'm seeing a lot more from NordicTrack these days in terms of trying to compete with Peloton, less so with Mirror. Mirror has always not intended to take away from the ownership of the market for the Pelotons and the NordicTrack, but rather add to it. It's a completely differentiated product. What's interesting about the way that Lululemon and their management team talks about Mirror is that it actually operates as a funnel into a kind of culture, a lifestyle brand that is Lululemon. Somebody can own both a Mirror and a Nordic
Starting point is 00:06:40 Trek or a Peloton. So it's additive the way that I see it, but also importantly, it's going to be additive to their business structure. It won't move the needle this year, but they're adding $200 million to $300 million on their top line from the acquisition of Mirror expected. So we'll continue to watch that hopefully grow over the next few quarters. Shares of Zoom Video are still down from their high for the year, but up a bit this week after first quarter revenue grew 191%. The growth is slowing, Jason, but a year ago, one of the big questions about Zoom Video was, how many of these customers can they keep? It looks like they're doing a pretty good job answering that question.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah, I like that this follows our DocuSign coverage because this feels very DocuSign-esque and how they're iterating and ultimately writing their second act. I mean, the video chat for Zoom has been the gateway, much like e-signature has been for DocuSign. But now it's about building out a platform and allowing companies and customers to do more, to be more productive with these tools that Zoom has built, to be able to work in what ultimately is becoming a hybrid world, right? A hybrid workforce world. And so, examples, I mean, they've launched a video SDK. They launched that in February. They announced a $100 million apps fund in order to help
Starting point is 00:07:57 build out their app presence, ultimately letting users bring their favorite apps directly into the Zoom experience in a way that inspires more collaboration and boosts efficiency. They just closed out their largest deal ever in terms of annualized recurring revenue with a leading global financial services firm. That actually resulted in Zoom getting over 90,000 hosts, which obviously is a large number, and also called out some big customers in Kimberley Target and a company called Denso, which is probably unfamiliar to most of us, but that's the world's second largest auto parts company. When you look at the numbers, sure, growth is slowing down, but 191% revenue growth is nothing to sneer at. They are still
Starting point is 00:08:48 calling for ultimately about 50% growth overall for the year. To your point, they are keeping a lot of those customers that they're bringing in. They ended the quarter with just under 2,000 customers, generating more than $100,000 in trailing 12 months revenue. Again, that dollar expansion rate for customers with more than 10 employees, that was over 130% for the 12th consecutive quarter. So again, bringing customers in, keeping them, growing those relationships. I suspect that this is really still just the beginning for what is becoming a very, very fun story to watch play out. Etsy has a new acquisition and Twitter has a new way to make money. And one of them is definitely more impressive than the other. Details after
Starting point is 00:09:34 the break, so stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here with Emily Flippen and Jason Moser. You can hear Motley Fool Money every week on radio stations across America and starting this weekend on News Radio 93.9 in Springfield, Illinois. Shout out to the capital city. Let's get back to the news of the week. Twitter introduced its first ever subscription offering Twitter Blue. For a few bucks a month, Twitter Blue offers dedicated customer support, easier ways to read long threads, among other features. Twitter's going to be rolling this out in Australia and Canada. Jason, no word yet on when it will be available in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Shares of Twitter basically flat on this news. Well, I'm going to make a prognostication here, Chris. I think that Twitter Blue is going to finish up in the red. I must say here, I'm not very impressed. I'm going to try to be diplomatic about this because I do like Twitter. For a time, clearly, I was very bullish on the company, its potential. I think the real risk here, though, and I certainly feel this way as a user, that this Twitter Blue, it's very underwhelming. Frankly, these are features that I would have expected to see them rolling out over the course of the past few years as just part of the free user experience. For a long time, the criticism was that they just didn't move quickly. I think that was a
Starting point is 00:11:06 valid criticism. Now, they're starting to move, but hey, you know what? They want to charge you for it. Well, at least give me something that's worth paying for, because this stuff that they're rolling out here, the ability to roll back tweets or organize tweets, it just doesn't seem like it's worth paying for. If you look at how this ends up impacting the business, I feel like I'm giving them a lot of credit for maybe getting 5 million paying users from all of this. You're talking about $200 million in incremental revenue, not very meaningful at the top line, certainly should be high margin dollars. There could be some lessons they glean from this, but I'm just having a hard time seeing the Twitter subscription as being ultimately very successful.
Starting point is 00:11:44 What malarkey? What malarkey is that, Jason? Goodness gracious. What do you mean? It's not valuable. Have you already signed up? The ability to undo tweets alone is the most valuable thing Twitter has rolled out over the past five years. I'm sensing sarcasm. It's not sarcastic at all. I actually think that there is a world in which Twitter Blue is very successful. Now, I will be the first to admit, you tweet way more than I do, Jason. But if I was a tweeter more than I am today, I would value a lot of these things.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Etsy is making its biggest acquisition ever. The company announced this week it is buying Depop, a secondhand fashion marketplace, for $1.6 billion. Emily, you like the deal for Etsy? I love this deal for Etsy. I am so excited, Chris, because it has been forever since I've seen a great business make an acquisition of this size mainly in cash. And as a shareholder, I love to see businesses making acquisitions in cash because they're essentially taking on all the risk of the synergies that would arise from this acquisition, as opposed to acquiring with shares, in which case that buck is kind of passed on to me as a shareholder. So I love this acquisition, not just because it's all in cash and that makes me excited, but also because Depop
Starting point is 00:13:08 is aimed at an entirely different generation of users than Etsy has currently. The vast majority of Etsy users right now are older than the age of 26, whereas 90% of Depop users are younger than 26. They're focused on things like streetwear, sportswear, vintagewear, TikTok followers, these sorts of things that really diversify Etsy's business and just show a level of underrated optionality that I think Etsy is going to create as a platform of platforms. Yeah, the fact that I have shopped on Etsy and had never heard of Depop before this week, I automatically knew it was aimed at a younger audience. Well, I tried to get on there today and just check out the platform before we taped,
Starting point is 00:13:51 and I went to their website, then realized they don't have a website, you can only use the app. And I realized I was also too old for their target audience. Elastic is a SaaS company that focuses on data search for businesses. Elastic's loss in the fourth quarter was smaller than expected this week and shares up more than 13%. Jason, this was your radar stock on last week's show. What did you think of the latest results? Well, it's even more of a radar stock now, Chris. This is really piquing my interest. It does feel like if you're looking for a company that's going to benefit from the growing amounts of data that continue to be exchanged on the enterprise side, Elastic should
Starting point is 00:14:32 certainly be on your shortlist. Like you noted, they develop software and services that let their users search through data, structured and unstructured data, to figure out all sorts of solutions in consumer enterprise applications. With the market opportunity in the neighborhood of $78 billion to $80 billion today, clearly still a lot of room for this business to run. The numbers for the quarter, certainly very encouraging. Total revenue up 39%, excluding currency effects. Revenue for the year was up 40%. Billings up 33%. So, it's continuing to grow and it does have that subscription-style offering that we love so much that generates that recurring revenue. As far as the key performance indicators with
Starting point is 00:15:17 a business like this, very much like DocuSign, you're looking at customers, DocuSign and Zoom. You're looking at customers, the customer account now over 15,000, that's versus 11,300 just a year ago. A customer account with annual contract value greater than $100,000, that's now over 730, that's up from 610 just a year ago. Ultimately, subscription revenue is where it's at for these guys, 93% of total revenue. The net expansion rate slightly below 130% they maintain those customers, bring new ones in, and grow that relationship. Ultimately, they're calling for $785 million in revenue for the coming year. That's 30% growth, but they see crossing the $1 billion figure the following year. I certainly see a pathway for this company. It's
Starting point is 00:16:05 one that I continue to dig in more. It's a $12 billion company, they're not profitable yet. Do you have, for a company like this, your own timeline in terms of when you want to see them getting closer to profitability? I try not to hold their feet to the fire too much these days, just because so many of these businesses are just getting started. Listen, when you have a business that's crossing over $1 billion in revenue, I'd like to start seeing them extract some profitability from their particular with the operating leverage you can get from a model like this, but we'll give them a little wiggle room. After a mostly down week,
Starting point is 00:16:45 shares of Five Below rebounded on Friday after first quarter profits and revenue both came in higher than Wall Street was expecting. Same-store sales for the discount retailer rose 162%. Emily, let's face it, not every retailer survived the pandemic. Five Below appears to have made it through the storm. Emily Flippen. Chris, I wasn't going to pull out those yearly numbers with same-store sales up 162%, revenue up 167% because those numbers are so meaningless. But since you brought it into the conversation, let's talk about that. Coming off of what was a really challenging year for most retailers, Five Below being one of them, their stores,
Starting point is 00:17:26 unlike a lot of other stores, were shut down for extended periods of time. They were not an essential retailer for a period of time before they started to reopen. So, Five Below is coming off the back of what was a rather dark year for the business coming into the light of post-pandemic life. But even if you look at it over the two-year basis, which is the better comparison, this is an outstanding business. Sales were up 64% on the two-year basis in comparison to 2019, earnings were up 91%, and same-store sales were up 23%. That was driven by double-digit ticket growth, even with stores having reduced hours. Extremely impressive business. Big question is, can they continue to grow store count like they
Starting point is 00:18:11 have over the past two years? Emily Flippen, Jason Moser, we will see you later in the show. Who are the winners and losers in the restaurant industry? Why should investors expect more restaurants to go public over the next few years? The to those questions and more from industry expert David Henkes right after the break. So stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill. Few businesses have been as challenged over the past 15 months, as much as restaurants. Here to give us an update on the current state of the industry and more is David Henkes. He is a senior principal at Technomic,
Starting point is 00:19:10 one of the top experts in the industry, and he joins me now from where else? His home in Chicago. David, good to talk to you. Good to talk to you, Chris. Thanks for having me. So the last time you and I talked, it was last July. At the time, the forecast for the year was restaurants being down in the neighborhood 20% to 30%. Here we are 11 months later. How's the forecast for 2021 looking? Well, the forecast for 2021 is actually looking really positive. And we're in the process of re-looking at our numbers because the first quarter of 2021 has just blown the roof off of all of our expectations, I think. You look at the public chain reports, you look at some of the distributor numbers, Cisco US Foods, PFG, that
Starting point is 00:19:54 report public numbers everyone seems to be having a really good year now to some degree it's pantry restocking it's getting ready for sort of a an influx of pent-up demand that that we're seeing but to some degree consumers are just coming out and they've got money to spend and they're ready to go and so we think this year is going to be a good year we're going to be revising our forecasts up slightly. I'm not sure exactly how much yet, uh, but we're looking at a, uh, a 2021, uh, of probably, I don't even want to put a number on it right now, but we're looking at probably double digit growth and, and significantly more in places like fast food and, and fast casual. And some of those that, that never really declined particularly to a large degree during the
Starting point is 00:20:44 pandemic are going to continue to do well, and we're going to see a big bounce back in full service restaurants. So it's going to be a good year. One of the big storylines for the industry over the past month has been about hiring difficulties. A lot of restaurants, whether it's local mom and pop shops or some of the national chains, really seem to be having trouble staffing up. What does it look like to you and your colleagues at Technomic? Is this something that is just sort of a natural speed bump coming out of this pandemic, and two months from now, everyone's going to be fine? Or is this a sustainable challenge for some of these? I think when you look at the big roadblocks to a potential full-blown recovery in 2021,
Starting point is 00:21:31 there's really two big things we're watching, and they're somewhat interrelated. The first is labor. Right now, there's a lot of different causes, and so you can't necessarily track it back. You talk to some restaurants, they'll tell you people, you know, they're, they're, uh, getting government benefits. It's hard to match that. You know, the effective rate of some of the people with unemployment benefits is something like 15 to $17 an hour, uh, that they're earning on unemployment. And so restaurants are, are unable in some cases to match that, but you also just run into a situation where there's people that don't want to come back to restaurants who, you know, I mean, working in restaurants in the best of times is a tough spot to be in at times.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And some people have moved on to other jobs, to Amazon, to gig work. And so, you know, there's a number of things at play. And I think, you know, the pandemic, there's still people that maybe aren't quite willing to come back to restaurants. So labor is a huge issue. And we're seeing, you know, supply and demand that the demand for labor is well outpacing the supply. And what that's doing is it's driving up wages, right? So a lot of talk in the industry about, you know, I mean, there's, there's this fight for 15 and there's a lot of government initiatives around, uh, raising minimum wages. It's, it's almost happening now, um, you know, because of market forces. And you could argue some of the government is involved in that with, with some of the
Starting point is 00:22:58 benefits, but restaurants are having a hard time and they're having to increase pay as a result. So that's a, that's a huge watch out because what ends up happening with capacity a lot of times is that, you know, if, if you're going full guns on a Friday night, but you can't open a part of your restaurant because you don't have enough servers to, to do it, or you, you know, you're, you don't have the sous chef in the back or you don't have, you know, the you know, the, the bus boys. I mean, it's going to be an issue. The other thing that we're concerned about is the cost environment. Now, this relates as well to labor because costs are going through the roof with a lot of things and labor included. But there's been a huge supply chain challenge over the past 12 months.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Shortages, delays, you know, certainly the, you know, a lot of people talk about the Suez as if that was sort of the start of it, but it wasn't. I mean, this has been an issue really since the beginning of the pandemic as supply chains have been stretched and pulled in ways that nobody ever expected. And so the cost environment, the labor situation are both two big watchouts that could have a material impact on the recovery this year. Are there any chains that have been able to take advantage of the fact that a lot of smaller chains, a lot of mom and pop restaurants just had to shut their doors, in some cases permanently. Have some of the larger chains been able to capitalize on that and maybe expand their footprint at an accelerated rate?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Let's put it this way. We track the top 500 restaurant chains as part of our ongoing tracking of about 1,500 operators, but we publish the top 500 in a report called, oddly enough, our top 500 restaurant reports. And so you look at restaurant sales last year, uh, overall restaurants declined about 18 and a half percent. The overall food service industry was down about 25, but restaurants were down about 18 and a half percent. Uh, when you look at the chain part of the market, it was only down 8%. So right away and, you know, and you'd say, okay, wait, 8%, they're still declining, but fast food chains only declined 1%. Fast casual chains declined about 5%. And then, you know, the sit down chains were anywhere from probably 25 to 40%.
Starting point is 00:25:24 So when you talk about winners and losers, you look and you say fast food as an industry only declare as a chain part of the industry only declined 1%. And then you start to peel back the onion and say, who did well? Chick-fil-A up 13%. Domino's up 18%. Some of the other pizza chains, Papa John's, let me look at their number here. Papa John's was up 16%. And so a lot of the pizza delivery chicken players did extremely well, but even McDonald's, right? McDonald's is a 40 and a half billion dollar chain, they actually grew 0.3%. And so the big chains that were able to especially take advantage of their drive-thrus or that focused on delivery or to a smaller degree takeout absolutely grew their share. And in fact, if you look at our top 500, last year in 2019,
Starting point is 00:26:30 pre-pandemic full service chains were about 24% of the makeup of the chain market. That declined to 18%. So fast food or limited service restaurants more generally, really, you know, and again, you know, many of them declined, but a lot of them grew and grew at double digit pace. And so, you know, I think our sense more generally is that the big chains, those with financial a wherewithal to make it, to withstand some of the challenges, to invest in technology. Those are the ones that are really better positioned coming out. The other thing that I think it's important to note is that when you talk about unit closures, right, and we're still trying to get our arms around unit closures, but for the most part, restaurants and especially
Starting point is 00:27:17 restaurant chains didn't really close that many units. And so what we thought would be this blood subbath of, you know, really, you know, closing a ton of units, probably the biggest of the top 10 chains that closed the most units was Subway. They closed about seven and a half percent of their locations. But listen, Subway has been challenged for a long time. And so you can't attribute all of that to the pandemic. But, you know, Chick-fil-A grew seven percent in terms of locations. Dunkin' grew. I'm sorry, they declined. Domino's grew four percent in terms of their locations. And so, you know, even in a pandemic, you had some operators not only maintaining or growing their sales, but in some cases were investing in growing their location counts as
Starting point is 00:27:59 well. And so, you know, coming out of the pandemic, these chains that didn't have to close as many locations as we thought, and that with, you know, withstood and held up with their sales better, invested in technology, you know, they're going to be certainly well positioned and have been well-positioned, and a look at their recent same-store sales would prove that point out, that they've really done pretty well. A year ago, the hot item was chicken wings. Restaurants that didn't even specialize were adding wings to the menu because they worked for takeout and delivery. Are chicken sandwiches now the new chicken wings? Because it really seems like it's not just the fast food restaurants that are angling for this market.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Well, I would probably argue that chicken sandwiches have been it for the last several years. Right. I mean, and you're right. I mean, you know, every major quick service restaurant is now competing, you know, in this chicken sandwich war. You know, I mean, I think they've all looked at the growth and I just referenced a Chick-fil-A that continues to do well. Right. And so, you know, all of these chicken players, you know, KFCs come out with them and, you know, and all of these players that that are chicken, that makes sense. but then McDonald's and Burger King and now Chili's just came out with one, right? And so, you know, and what makes it interesting is because a lot of these chains are now competing on delivery to some degree, whether you're a fast food restaurant or a sit-down restaurant doesn't matter as much anymore because the consumers are just ordering them on their phone, right? So you can order a Chili's chicken sandwich just as easily as you can order a Chick-fil-A
Starting point is 00:29:40 sandwich and both of them are going to be brought to your door and both of them are delicious. and so chicken sandwiches have really become sort of ground zero in terms of the restaurant battle right now and and almost to the extent that it's comical that you know i mean it's like every week somebody else is rolling out a new chicken sandwich and and you know and listen by the way i think they're all pretty good right i mean you have them and you know personal tastes may vary but you know at some point you got to say that there's a sort of a you know a sort of declining utility in offering these chicken sandwiches. Now that said, chicken restaurants last year,
Starting point is 00:30:17 the KFCs and Chick-fil-A's grew 10%. And so in a pandemic, the chicken category, not chicken as a product, but the chicken style restaurants or chicken restaurants that we classify as chicken restaurants grew 10% last year, the fastest of anything. And so consumers love their chicken, they continue to vote with their wallets, and it doesn't seem like there's any end in sight in terms of consumers' insatiable demand for chicken. Over the past decade, investors have seen a lot of publicly traded restaurants being taken private, Panera Bread, Dunkin', among them. Later this month, Krispy Kreme is going to get its second act as a public company. Should we expect a more successful second act for Krispy Kreme? And should investors
Starting point is 00:31:12 expect more restaurants being spun out into the public markets over the next decade? You know, it's a really good question. And, you know, when you look at Krispy Kreme, you know, it's German ownership. I mean, they've really righted the ship. I mean, it was taken private because they had overextended themselves and overexpanded. uh and you know and when it was acquired it was you know it was it was struggling right and so they've turned it around um i think when you look at the investment you know there are a lot of what we call these facts these special purpose acquisition companies that are going after restaurants and a lot of them are publicly traded or they're publicly traded shell companies that
Starting point is 00:31:56 are acquiring restaurants and so i i do think you know perhaps it's not an ipo in the traditional sense, but there's going to be a lot more publicly traded entities that invest in restaurants and give investors more of an opportunity. Now, I think, you know, you know, and I don't offer investment advice unlike you guys. And so I, you know, I don't want to necessarily tell you to invest in anything, but listen, we're at a point right now where the next several years for restaurant growth is probably going to be pretty explosive coming off of, you know, the worst year probably ever in terms of the restaurant industry. Now, individual company performance is going to vary. But I think that a lot of people are looking at this as a buying opportunity because there's
Starting point is 00:32:39 distressed assets. There's a lot of, you know, chains or restaurant companies more generally carrying a lot of debt. And so, you know, the extent to which investors either, you know, in a lot of private equity, but again, these SPACs or, you know, other investors, there's going to be a lot more activity happening over the next couple of years and, you know, probably some IPOs as a result of that. Last thing, and then I'll let you go. We talked recently on the show about the partnership between Pringles and Wendy's for the limited edition chip made to taste like Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich. These things come across your radar all the time. Have you seen anything recently that you're particularly
Starting point is 00:33:20 either excited about or horrified by? Well, I think, Chris, part of the challenge me answering that is we work with a lot of these companies, right? And so, I've seen a lot of things that horrify me. I don't necessarily want to talk about it. But sometimes they work, right? That's the thing. There are absolutely these things that you or I or anyone else could look at and think, boy, that doesn't look like it would taste very good. And they're a hit for some of these chains. Yeah, we see these mashups happening. And so, I think a lot of it is around And, you know, there's two different ways, you know, restaurants are kind of investing in that, right? They're working with a CPG company to get something into their grocery shelves.
Starting point is 00:34:10 But then there's also a lot of menu innovation where they're just doing crazy flavors or doing things. And, you know, Yum! Brands and, you know, some of these QSRs are notorious for that. And, you know, and really what they're doing is trying to create buzz and trying to create something, especially for the younger consumer, right? I mean, they're looking to break through social media, break through sort of the word of mouth that a lot of younger consumers, you know, how they communicate now on, you know, on the different social media channels and really create something that is, that is buzz worthy. And so it's almost to the point where the flavors are beside the point, right?
Starting point is 00:34:46 It's, it's having something that is crazy, unique and new that people are going to talk about. And, you know, sort of if it works, great. But the primary benefit of all of that is just to get people talking about you and your brand. And I think that's probably what's driving a lot of that. You want to know more about the restaurant industry, there is no one better to be following on Twitter or reading his stuff. David Hankes, thanks so much for your time. Thanks, Chris. I appreciate it. Up next, Emily Flippen and Jason Moser return with a couple of stocks on their radar. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about,
Starting point is 00:35:46 The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against, so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here once again with Jason Moser and Emily Flippen. Just a couple of minutes to get the stocks on our radar. Our man behind the glass, Dan Boyd, is going to hit you with a question. Jason Moser, you're up first. What are you looking at this week? Yeah, keeping an eye on a really good performer for us in the augmented reality beyond service. The company is called Trimble, ticker is TRMB. They build hardware and software that's aimed at connecting the physical and digital worlds. Focus on positioning, modeling, connectivity, data analytics. I'm keeping an eye
Starting point is 00:36:23 on the ongoing infrastructure bill negotiations here in Washington, D.C., because while the two parties may be at odds right now on how much it's going to be, it sounds like there's going to be something and it's going to be a big number regardless. When you look at the most recent earnings call, CEO Robert Painter, he noted that. He said, and I quote, we want to play offense and invest now for the mid to long-term opportunities that we see in the market. We see a generational opportunity out of a North America infrastructure bill and a strong commodity price backdrop in the agriculture market. So to me, listen, with the number of end markets this company serves, I feel like this could be a sleepy reopening play, Chris.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Dan, question about Trimble? Absolutely, Jason. So it looks like this company has had a pretty big surge in the stock price since last spring when the COVID-19 pandemic began. What can you tell me that explains why it seems to have gone up so high in such a short time? I just think recognizing the value proposition and the hardware and software they provide, the switching costs involved. Once customers commit, they got to stay in there and they've done a good job of expanding those relationships. Emily Flippen, what do you got? I am looking at StoneCo, the ticker is S-T-N-E, their Brazilian payment processor. They had a weaker than expected earnings report, but a lot of the pessimism is really just caught
Starting point is 00:37:41 up in COVID. You can imagine it as the square of Brazil. I think it has a lot of long-term opportunity. Dan, question about StoneCo? The square of Brazil? I'm surprised it's not Jason talking about this, what with his war on cash basket. What I will say is it fits perfectly into that war on cash basket, but it'll be critical to watch their take rates, competition in Brazil is fierce. Dan, what do you want to add to your watch list? I'm going to go with StoneCo this time. I think Brazil, of course, is one of the largest emerging markets in Latin America,
Starting point is 00:38:14 and I hate cash just as much as Jason does. Is this real life? Emily Flippen, Jason Moser, thanks so much for being here. Thanks, Chris. That's going to do it for this week's show. It's mixed by Dan Boyd. Our producer is Mac Greer. I'm Chris Hill. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week.

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