Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - Big Retail, Apple, and the Fight for "Taco Tuesday"
Episode Date: May 19, 2023As reports of Apple's next device surfaced, major retailers highlighted the week's earnings. (0:21) Ron Gross and Jason Moser discuss: - Walmart's grocery division (once again) doing the heavy liftin...g in its latest results - Reports that Apple will unveil a $3,000 device at its developer conference in early June - Netflix impressing advertisers and Wall Street - The latest from Home Depot, Target, Foot Locker, and Deere (19:11) Scott Phillips, chief investment officer at Motley Fool Australia, shares the current state of play for investors Down Under, Australian stocks to watch, and predictions for this year's Rugby World Cup. (30:28) Ron and Jason discuss Taco Bell fighting to free the phrase "Taco Tuesday" from its current trademark holder and share two stocks on their radar: Owens Corning and Lowe's. Stocks discussed: WMT, HD, TGT, FL, AAPL, MSFT, DE, NFLX, DIS, TTD, ASX, AMZN, MDB, GOOG, GOOGL, TEAM, TNE, YUM, LOW, OC Host: Chris Hill Guests: Jason Moser, Ron Gross, Scott Phillips Engineer: Dan Boyd, Tim Sparks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm Chris Hill. Joining me in studio, Motley Fool's Senior Analyst Jason Moser and Ron Gross.
Good to see you as always, gentlemen. Hey, how are you doing, Chris?
We got the latest headlines from Wall Street. We'll get a check on global markets with our
guest Scott Phillips. And as always, we got a couple of stocks on our radar. But it was a big
week for retail earnings, so we're going to start with the biggest one reporting. Walmart raised its
full-year guidance after delivering a first-quarter report, highlighted by sales up more than 7%.
And Ron, we've seen this frequently over the past couple of years.
Walmart's grocery business kind of doing the heavy lifting here.
Yeah, exactly.
Shoppers continue to gravitate to smaller package sizes, to store brands, because they're
trying to manage their spending.
And they continue to favor grocery spending over non-essentials, such as apparel, home
goods, electronics.
Those tend to have higher margins.
But yes, they're focusing on grocery.
This was a strong report.
was actually better than expected. As you mentioned, revenue and comp sales up about 7%.
Those are pretty strong numbers. Slightly slower growth, I will mention, compared with the previous
quarter, but just slightly. And they did gain market share, or management said they gained
market share in groceries, so they continue to execute there. E-commerce was up 27%. That's
pretty strong. Lifted by higher advertising revenue as they focus on their marketplace
and also sells through their pickup and delivery services. So, strong numbers there. Gross margins
did narrow just a bit on a different mix in sales, but nothing to be concerned about.
Inflation and food, although kind of on its way down, still 20% higher than two years ago.
But operating up 17%, earnings up 13%. Management lifted its outlook, as you say.
And things look pretty good here at Walmart. Are you surprised that they raised their
guidance because CEO Doug McMillan, I mean, you mentioned the inflation. McMillan said on the call,
inflation is creating uncertainty for us in the second half of this year.
Well, I think they raised because this quarter was better than expected. So, just on that,
you can raise. But I do think they're being cautious, as are other retailers when they
give guidance. Home Depot's first quarter revenue was lower than expected. Same-store sales fell
more than 4%. And the company lowered sales guidance for the full fiscal year. And despite
all that, Jason, shares of Home Depot up a little bit this week. I'm not complaining. I'm a
shareholder, but I am a little pleasantly surprised. I, too, am a shareholder, and I, too,
am very, very not disappointed with the way this week turned out. I mean, I know the stock being
up surprised some. I think, you know, when you look at everything in total, right, yeah, sure,
they guided down, but they really set that tone for the year a quarter ago. I don't think really
there were any surprises as far as trepidation among the consumer, a shift from spending on
products to a shift on spending in services. That's all playing out here. There's nothing
fundamentally wrong with the business at all. It's just exposed to greater macro forces
that it has no control over. The numbers themselves, not terribly inspiring. Revenue
$237.3 billion. It was actually down 4.2% from a year ago. Comps down 4.5%. U.S. comps down 4.6%.
Ultimately, earnings per share of $3.82, down from $4.09 a year ago. A lot of the metrics that
matter, comp average ticket was up just 0.2%, but the transactions fell 5%. And big ticket item
comps were down 6.5%. Management did point out lumber deflation. I know we talk a lot about
inflation. But in this case, lumber deflation, which is impacting the company's sales.
That's my favorite kind of inflation. Exactly. And it did impact sales to the tune of about,
it impacted average ticket to the tune of about 335 basis points. Remember, lumber is close to 10%
of Home Depot's overall business. Put some numbers around this. They used framing lumber
as an example here. Framing lumber was approximately $422 per thousand board feet
this quarter. Last year, $1,170. So, that's that inflation. It plays out on their top line
in a bad way, but actually, it's kind of helpful to their margins. So, it's not all bad news.
They paid out $2.1 billion in dividends. Got to love that. Repurchased approximately $3 billion
in shares. That share's outstanding. It's come down 8.5% since 2019. So, that's all good.
I think in regard to guidance, yeah, they pulled back a little bit. The earnings per share,
they see declining now between 7% and 13% versus 5% just a quarter ago. But even with that guidance,
the stock is still valued at around 18 times full of your estimates, which, frankly,
is a pretty opportunistic look at this one. Well, and you think about all of the pent-up
demand in 2022, particularly over the summer, it makes sense that the guidance would not be
amazing. Yeah. Yep. Absolutely.
Target's first quarter results were better than expected, with inventory levels continuing to
improve. Shares down a little bit this week, Ron, but it seemed like a somewhat similar quarter to
what we saw out of Walmart. Except that Target focuses more on those bigger ticket non-essential
items. And that's where the two diverge. Walmart was strong because they focused on grocery and
essential. Target struggled because they focused on the bigger ticket. And you can see that showing
up in the numbers, which are better than expected in some circumstances, but pretty weak in general.
Sales only up 0.5%. Comparable sales came in flat. Digital sales were down 3.4%.
We're seeing not great numbers here for the quarter. Sales of food and beverage were up,
as we saw with Walmart, but things like apparel, home goods, electronics fell rather sharply.
Discretionary categories make up 54% of Target's annual sales. If those are weak,
The numbers are just going to come in weak as well. Inventory was down 16%. They're trying to
work through the success inventory that they've had since the pandemic when they were inventoried
in the wrong direction. Earnings down 6%. Second quarter guidance was weak, but management did
maintain its full year guidance. But as we talked about with Walmart and them being conservative,
executives used the word cautious 13 times during the earnings call. They're not feeling very
confident about their visibility into the future. So, only 20 times forward guidance. I like the
company in general, but they are working through the environment and the inventory problems they
had from the past. I feel like I'm rubbing off on Ron here a little bit. You're searching
terminology? How many times these things were used? You know, it's like the extra mile for
the listeners. I love that. Well, I was just going to say, if you just had the past 15 months that
CEO Brian Cornell had had, wouldn't you be using the word cautious over and over again?
Be very cautious about how many times you use the word cautious.
On a related note, Cornell, more so than really any other retail CEO this week,
was talking about organized retail theft, the challenge that they are facing.
I know that this is something that every retail business deals with.
Cornell was really talking about it as being a significant problem.
Is that something to watch if you're looking at Target over the next 6 to 12 months,
how they deal with this more so than others?
Absolutely, because they're calling out a big number, $500 million due to shrink or theft.
That's a very big number. I almost can't see how it's going to be that big. Let's keep an eye on
that. But they're not the only ones. Walmart mentioned it. Most major retailers are talking
about it. It is a major problem in retail right now. If you've got $3,000 burning a hole in your
pocket, good news. There's a brand new gadget coming to market with your name on it. Details
after the break, so stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser and Ron Gross.
Shares of Foot Locker fell 25% on Friday after first quarter profits were solidly lower than
Wall Street was expecting. The athletic apparel retailer also lowered guidance. Ron, CEO Mary
Dylan did great things when she was running Ulta Beauty. Boy, she's got her work cut out for her
at Foot Locker. This is not going to be easy for her. She joined last year, and they developed
what they're calling their lace-up strategy. Maybe too cute there. But their lace-up strategy
includes moving away from shopping malls, closing 400 underperforming stores, decreasing their
dependence on Nike, which was significant, and improving their digital operation. Not working
quite yet, Chris, because these numbers are very weak, and they were forced to lower guidance.
Total sales down 11%. Same-store sales down 9%. They blame macroeconomic headwinds,
including lower income tax refunds, changing vendor mix. They're repositioning their Champs
brand. And they had to take higher markdowns in order to move product. And they also did
talk about shrink and theft as well. Adjusted profits down 57%. These are really weak numbers.
They cut their guidance. They expect sales for the current year to fall between 6.5% and 8%.
They did name a new CFO this week. But they've got their work to do. Trading only 15 times
guidance, probably appropriate, maybe should be even cheaper in quotes. To bet on this company
would be to bet on a significant turnaround. I was just going to say, you look at the stock,
the valuation, it's obviously cheaper today than it was last week. But it seems like,
to use a phrase Jason Moser has used in the past, it seems like you need to pack a lunch on this one.
It's going to take a while. And they don't really seem to be very different to me than a lot of the
other apparel stores that you see in the average mall. So, they have their work cut out for them.
Apple is planning to hold its annual developers conference on June 5th, and details of the event are starting to leak out.
The Wall Street Journal reported this week that Apple is expected to unveil a mixed-reality headset resembling a pair of ski goggles that comes with an external battery pack and a price tag of $3,000.
Jason, I will not be among the first to buy this device, but if any company can pull this off, I have to believe it's Apple.
Maybe. I think a consumer device for this nascent market in mixed reality cannot stay
$3,000. I think that's just prohibitively expensive. And I don't think very many people
will be clamoring to get that device. But it is Apple. There will be some. And that really is the
power of their brand. And ultimately, the fact that they really make good stuff, right? As time
goes on, we'll see that price come down. We'll see more and more experimentation with core use
cases. It's just that standard sort of hardware thing. They introduce something new. It'll find
its way into the market. Demand either materializes or it doesn't. If it doesn't, you bring the price
down. I think at some point, though, the price is only part of the equation. Really, when it comes
to this mixed reality stuff, it's finding the use cases. I think there are two opportunities
ultimately in play here. I know a lot of the focus is on the consumer, getting a head site and
escaping off into another world. But you look at industrial augmented virtual mixed reality,
industrial has gained far more traction in recent years simply because of the clear
and beneficial use cases. I mean, you're thinking of things like 3D step-by-step operating or repair
instructions, a dashboard of the analytics data to be able to help assess and complete a task.
Think about things like healthcare. So, you've got companies like PTC and Ansys on the software
side. Microsoft, with its HoloLens, a lot of investments they've made there, not really
working out either. Apple's just kind of sitting there biding its time, sort of watching this
market unfold. And I think that's the right thing to do, particularly with its scale and
its resources. But yeah, I would imagine $3,000 is not going to have that thing flying off
the shelves. There are a couple interesting things at
play here, one of which is the fact that, at least according to the report in The Wall
Street Journal, this is more so than any new device launch that Apple has had, probably in
its history. This thing is not ready to go. They are reportedly planning to come out with something
that is kind of in the beta phase at this point. The other thing is, think back to earlier this
month, the response we saw for Alphabet. Google had its annual developers conference. The response
was so positive to what they unveiled. And by the way, this $3,000 device, this is not going to be
the only thing Apple unveils at their developer conference. So from a stock perspective, it's
going to be interesting to see what happens in early June, the response to this and what may
come in the market. Yeah. I mean, I don't think this is anything that is a tailwind or a headwind
either for the business in the near term. I think it makes sense. They need to get into this market
at some point sooner rather than later, lest they just get passed by everyone. But again,
it does feel like, from the consumer's perspective, this really is a market that's still
looking for those core use cases, and the technology is only going to be able to do so much
there. Last week on the show, Andy Cross called out Deere as the stock on his radar. On Friday
morning, Deere raised guidance after second quarter profits came in higher than expected.
Did you tell me, Ron, how'd they do? They did well. As you said, they were
able to increase their guidance as supply chain problems eased. Not go away, but they're easing,
and the company was able to benefit from higher prices. It's a very cyclical business,
but they're in a strong part of the cycle right now, even an upgrade cycle, you could probably
call it. Sales are up 30%. There's demand by farmers for new equipment and parts to repair
aging machinery that they haven't really upgraded in quite some time. Sales rose across each
of the company's three segments on higher prices and volume. Their large farm equipment
segment, which is their largest, rose 53% from a year earlier, and the profits more
than doubled for that segment. So, real strong. Construction up 23%. Small machinery up 16%.
Margins widened as they controlled costs and as those supply chain constraints, as I mentioned,
started to ease. The one weak part of their business was their financial services business.
It's a very small part of the business, down significantly because of the movements around
interest rates, but nothing to be concerned about. Earnings up 42%. Raised guidance.
Orders remain strong, even though crop commodity prices continue to come down. So, if that continues,
That's where the cycle is going to reverse at some point eventually. But for now, they felt
like they could raise guidance. Only trading 12X forward, which is similar to where Caterpillar
is now, so that makes sense. John May is one of those executives
whose timing is maybe a little unfortunate. He became CEO of Deere right before the pandemic.
Kind of impressive that he's raising guidance at a time like this, particularly when you factor in,
As Doug McMillan said, the uncertainty around inflation affects every business.
Yeah. Deere has done a good job with new products, bringing software to their products in a pretty
big way, which will impact margins in a good way going forward. But it is cyclical. You can't
really escape those macroeconomic cycles. So, investing in Deere, you have to understand that.
On Wednesday, Netflix held its upfront presentation to advertisers and said that
its new ad-supported tier has nearly 5 million monthly active users. That must have been music
to Wall Street's ears, because on Thursday, shares of Netflix up 10%, Jason.
Yeah, I understand the enthusiasm here, and let's dig into why that's the case.
First and foremost, it feels like the honeymoon is over here. If you want ad-free TV,
you've got to prepare to pay up for it. Because a clear strategy here for these businesses going
forward, the economics of ad-supported, they're very compelling for these businesses. So,
they're really trying to push more and more subscribers to those ad-supported models.
You start with Netflix, for example. In the U.S., they noted in their most recent earnings report
that the ads plan has already reached a total average revenue per member, which is the subscription
plus the ad revenue that's greater than their standard plan. Now, thanks to their licensing
deals. The ad-supported plan has, on average, around 95% content parity globally with their
ad-free plans. So, you're getting basically apples to apples there. Going to Disney,
you're looking at Disney, you're seeing the same thing. Iger talked about on the call here,
they have realized the economic benefits of the ad-supported plan. They're actually going to raise
the price of the ad-free plans in order to create essentially more demand for the ad-supported plan,
because the ad-supported plan is so economically beneficial to the models there. They're seeing
the same thing. Average revenue per users just turning in some very promising numbers there.
And then you look at something like Trade Desk, which is kind of the backbone of a lot of this
programmatic advertising to begin with. They talk about hearing this language from Netflix
regarding programmatic ads. They're obviously partnering with Disney on that front as well.
You see a number of different ways to win in this space, but clearly, Netflix, Disney,
and the Trade Desk are three of the companies that are really leading the way here, it seems.
I'm so spoiled. Every time I hit fast-forward on a show and it says,
fast-forward is not enabled for this show, I'm like, oh, I'll just throw the remote.
Well, and you're seeing more and more content getting on platforms like, I mean, Freebie,
right? That Amazon-supported freebie offering. What? Have you seen Jury Duty? I mean, come on,
guys. You've got to check that one out. All right, guys. We'll see you later in the show.
After the break, it's our man in Australia, Scott Phillips. This is Motley Fool Money.
Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill. Scott Phillips is the Chief Investing Officer
at Motley Fool Australia. He is also the host of a very popular investing podcast,
which also goes by the name of Motley Fool Money. He joins me now from the Gold Coast. Scott,
it's been too long. Thanks so much for making the time.
Chris, you are very kind, mate. I'm always, always humbled to appear on the radio show.
And mate, can I say, I've drafted shamelessly off Motley Fool Money. The original, the OG,
called out the same thing because, hey, limitations is a serious form of flattery, right?
Absolutely. I do want to talk about the market in Australia, but I am curious what the view
of the U.S. stock market is from your vantage point. At a high level, 2022 was the worst year
in over a decade. 2023 here in the States has been dominated by, yes, on a business level,
a lot of talk of AI, but also at a macro level, a lot of discussion of interest rate hikes and
the debt ceiling. And I'm curious, when you look at stocks in America, what stands out to you?
Chris, I still believe that the U.S. market, the U.S. economy has some of the very,
very best businesses on the planet. That's no surprise to you and no surprise to your listeners.
And I think what's been fascinating for Australian investors is the last 12 months,
2022 in particular, I should say, in Australia wasn't as bad as in the US because we have an
abundance of resources companies and banks in Australia. And despite some of the banking
dramas you guys have been having, 2022 was actually a relatively good year because
the energy sector, which really is big in Australia, was really successful.
So, when we look at the US over the last 12, 18 months, I think there's been a bit of a
a surprise. A lot of our growth and tech stocks got smashed as yours did during 2022.
The recovery of your market, not surprising at all. I am very excited about the future for
American companies. I think the work that's being done by some of the very best, biggest,
fastest growing companies on the planet is happening on the NASDAQ and the New York Stock
Exchange. While the index itself, a great opportunity for Australian investors to jump
in U.S. stocks last year, but I am every bit as excited as I ever have been about the future
of U.S. business, of U.S. listed companies, of the value that's being created by some
of the best businesses on the planet. What is the current state of play these days
for Aussie investors? Based on comments that you've made on your show, things that you've
written, we follow each other on Twitter, so based on some of your tweets, I get the
sense did you think the ASX is, I don't know if bargain is the right word, but it seems like an
opportunity. I think that's right. I love the way you phrased that, mate. I think there's always
someone out there, you know this, your listeners know this, there's always someone out there who's
prepared to say the next crash is coming or everything's going to be terrible, watch out for
the next bear market, we know the usual suspects. If you look at the long-term history of the
Australian Stock Exchange, the US stock markets, the developed world stock markets, they go up and
to the right. Not in a straight line, not without pullbacks, not without years like 2022. But the
future is always bright. The best time to buy shares is always today. Not because necessarily
I know what's going to happen tomorrow, but because if you look back over any stretch of time,
the immense value created by investing in public markets has just been phenomenal.
Quite honestly, mate, for the last, I've been working for The Motley Fool, not quite as long
as you have, but for a long time now. And I have been saying since day one, and today,
and hopefully many years into the future, buy stocks today. Not because I'm making any macro
forecasts or market forecasts. We all think that's a silly thing to try and do. But because the
awesome power of compounding by some of the best companies on the planet is just something you
don't want to stand in the way of. Betting against that is crazy. So honestly, mate, yeah, I actually
do think right now, particularly for stock pickers in the Australian market, some of our
companies are very expensive, but there are a lot that are still suffering from market jitters,
from pessimism, from concern about what might come next economically. But I think in three,
five and 10 years' time, we'll look back and say, why did we let the next three months worry us
when the 10 years that followed that are very likely to be very good? So, yeah, I absolutely
would be, investing in general, as always. But I do think there is absolutely a great opportunity
for stock pickers in the ASX. You and I have talked in the past about
Domino's Pizza, among other companies based in the U.S., as doing well in Australia.
For folks listening, what's another American business that you think is faring pretty well
and connecting with either consumers or businesses in Australia?
Yeah, that's a great question, mate.
And I think what I hope your listeners know that I haven't seen the numbers recently,
but not that many years ago, half of the revenue from the S&P 500 companies came outside the U.S.
And if you open up any cupboard in Australia, if you open up, if you work with any business in Australia,
the number of us companies that we deal with and work with remains really strong
mate i'm i'm going to this this won't surprise your listeners it's not a particularly original
answer but uh i'm a shareholder of amazon i'm a long-term shareholder of amazon i love that
business i think it's an amazing company and it continues to do really really well around the
world so if i can give your listeners a uh an antipodean a down under perspective on amazon it
is that it is making every bit of the same inroads here as it's been making in the us for many many
many years. It remains an incredibly strong, incredibly successful business. I think it will
be for a long time to come. Some other businesses that I think, MongoDB, a business that you've
talked about a lot, is a business that does continue to, again, make inroads here. The world
of software is something Australian companies just don't compete anywhere near as well as we do in
other industries because the best software businesses, the most dominant global software
businesses tend to be born over there where you are. And that, at the speed of the internet,
we all know, is just phenomenally fast. The growth of that has been incredible. I am, as you said,
interested in AI and the growth of that. I think, and again, think about the cloud, the web
businesses. Think about Microsoft's cloud business, Amazon's cloud business, again, Google, the same
thing. I own shares in Alphabet as well. These are just phenomenal, phenomenal businesses. And I
think the growth of these around the world, I really want your listeners to know you can
invest globally from right there at home because of the sheer scale and breadth of some of your
best businesses. Speaking of software, one Australian-based business that we talked
recently on the show about was Atlassian. Let's go beyond that. What's one or two other publicly
traded Australian businesses that you think more Americans should know about?
Yeah, let me give you two, Chris. One is Xero. The code in Australia is X-R-O. It is a cloud
accounting business. Some of your listeners may be using Xero. It is available in the U.S. It's
not anywhere near as dominant there as it is here. It's actually a New Zealand business,
but Australia claims all the good New Zealand businesses as our own, so we'll keep doing that.
It is ASX listed, though. It is a company that has something like 70% market share in New Zealand.
It's the most dominant cloud accounting software package here in Australia, big in the UK, hoping to grow in the US.
It is a really fantastic business, visionary leadership.
It took the Salesforce software as a service model and really ran with it hard and continues to make every post a winner.
The other one's a very different business called Technology One.
You guys talk about enterprise resource planning software a lot.
This is a company, TNE is the code on the ASX.
It is a company that basically provides enterprise software, as I said, for some really, really
sticky customers.
And if you're looking for defensive software, these guys provide software for government,
education, and healthcare.
They are three sectors that aren't going away anytime soon.
Their customers are pretty sticky, and they're going to be around.
Their earnings growth has just been almost staircase-like over the last 10, 15 years.
They continue to get customers.
their retention rate is above 99% in terms of number of customers. It's a really, really great
quality Australian software business that I think has a long, long way to run.
I know you're passionate about investing, but I know there is something else coming up in a few
months that you're also passionate about. And I'm talking, of course, about the Rugby World Cup.
It's going to be held in France. It's been 24 years, Scott, since Australia
has won the Rugby World Cup. And I'm curious how you're feeling about the Wallabies' chances.
Mate, we are going to win this one.
No, there is no question about it, Chris.
We are absolute lay-down Mazares.
Can I also say, by the way, the Women's World Cup is being held in Australia very soon too.
So we have two big World Cups.
I feel very good about our chances in both.
I'm sorry to your Kiwi listeners, to your UK listeners, to your European listeners who think their teams are going to win.
I hate to break it to them.
I'm going to say it here first and exclusively, Chris, I'm not being full money.
Australia will win both Rugby World Cups.
I have absolutely every confidence. That's, again, not even a question,
mate. I might as well not even bother turning up. We're that good.
You can check out the Australian version of Motley Fool Money on whatever podcast app is
your favorite. It is free. You get a different perspective on the stock market and you get more
insights and analysis from this guy. Scott Phillips, always great talking to you. Thank
you so much for being here. Chris, it's absolutely my pleasure,
mate. I will not leave this podcast without thanking you for your many years of loyal
service to The Motley Fool. More importantly, I think, to Motley Fool Money and to your listeners.
I am a loyal listener and have always been. We will miss you dearly at the company. Your
listeners will miss you even more, mate. Thank you very much for everything you've done for
investors and for listeners across your time at The Motley Fool. We are very, very
lucky and grateful for your service. I appreciate it, Scott. Thank you so much.
Up next, Jason Moser and Ron Gross return. They got a couple of stocks on their radar.
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so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money,
Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser and Ron Gross. Guys, where we sit right now in this
studio, we are just two blocks away from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. This is relevant
because this week, Taco Bell petitioned the PTO to be able to use the phrase Taco Tuesday,
which, of course, begs the question, why can't they? That's because another restaurant chain
holds the trademark on the phrase, and it is not the restaurant you may have guessed. It is Taco
John's, a chain headquartered in Wyoming, and they have held the trademark on the phrase Taco
Taco Tuesday since 1989, Ron. I'm a little torn here because this is, look, Taco Bell is 20 times
the size of Taco John's. This is David versus Goliath. I'm kind of on Goliath's side because
Taco Bell isn't saying, we want the phrase. They're saying, hey, everybody should get to
use this phrase. Well, since I own the trademark on the word Tuesday, I pay it a little bit every
time they use Taco Tuesday. So, who am I to complain? But yeah, it's a little much for me.
The history of this is fascinating. It started out as Taco Tuesday, T-W-O-S-D-A-Y. They were
just saying, hey, we're going to sell you two tacos for $0.99. They tried to gin up some sales
back in 1980 or something like that. It worked out, so then they took it from here. It's fascinating
to see the Patent and Trademark Office, they granted this trademark at $0.89. Attorneys say
it's eligible for protection. Other attorneys feel like Taco Bell has a strong case here because U.S.
trademark law, quote, unquote, prevents the registration of common phrases or phrases
that become commonplace after a registration is granted. So, ultimately, Chris, the biggest
tragedy of all of this, it seems like the lawyers are ultimately the winners here.
Am I right that LeBron James tried to do this as well?
He did.
Unsuccessfully?
He did.
Yeah. Hmm.
Give it to the people. This should belong to all of us. Before we get to the radar stocks,
I need to mention something that came up earlier in the week, an announcement that went out to
podcast and radio trade media that I will be leaving The Motley Fool at the end of the month.
My last episode on the podcast is going to be May 30th, and I will, at that time,
share some thoughts and answer some questions about my departure. But this is my last appearance
on our radio show, and I wanted to say a quick word of thanks to the people who run our affiliate
radio stations. We started Motley Fool Money in February 2009. In January 2010, this became the
first podcast to be heard on commercial radio. I know podcasting has grown in popularity over
the years, but broadcast radio is an important form of media. I'm proud of the fact that this
show is now heard on more than 75 stations, making it the No. 1 stock investing radio show
in America. The economics of weekend talk radio are such that rather than running original programs
like ours, a lot of talk stations just sell the time to run things like hour-long commercials
for health supplements. So, I wanted to thank a few of the radio executives who made the decision
to make this show available to their audience. Robin Bertolucci in Los Angeles, Russ Reynolds
in San Francisco, Lisa Wolfe right here in Washington, D.C., Renee York in Phoenix, Max
Miller in Sacramento, and Janine Lee in Hartford, Connecticut. These are the early investors in
Motley Fool Money as a radio show. Their stamp of approval helped us get to where we are today,
and I just wanted to thank them on my last appearance on the radio show.
Well said, Chris. And I'll be brief so I don't get emotional here, but we've been doing this
together for around 14 years, and it has been a highlight of my time here at The Fool. You've made
it so easy and so fun, and it's been a true pleasure. We will miss you, but don't be a
stranger, please. I won't. I will echo those sentiments. I mean,
14 years is more great memories than I think probably any of us can really pull. But one
that will always stand out is when you and Dan and I loaded up the train and went up to New York
City and taped Market Foolery on location at Shake Shack to celebrate their IPO. We had lunch.
They brought us one of every dessert. It was just a sublime day. That'll be one that always
stands out. Thank you for everything. We'll miss you. I appreciate that. Let's get to the stocks
on our radar. Our man behind the glass, Dan Boyd, is going to hit you with a question.
Ron, you're up first. What are you looking at this week? Dan, you're going to love it. I'm going with
good old Owens Corning, OC, largest manufacturer of fiberglass insulation and the second largest
producer of asphalt roofing shingles in the U.S. If that doesn't get your blood pumping, Dan,
I don't know what will. 30% of revenue generated internationally. This is the same Owens Corning
that had to file for bankruptcy back in 2000 as a result of asbestos-related injuries.
The company did reemerge six years later. They plan to reorganize, include a trust to resolve
both the current and future liability from that. Demand is obviously driven by new residential
construction, repair and remodeling, increasingly difficult building codes that require energy
efficiency. Since initiating its dividend in 2014, increased its payout every year at a compound
annual rate of 12.5%. Also reduced its share count by 23% over the same period. Currently has a 2%
dividend yield, trading for a little over 10 times, which is relatively cheap compared to
others in that industry. Dan, question about Owens Corning?
Yeah, Ron. What kind of equipment do you have at your house for insulation, installation,
and roofing? I know you're a big DIY guy, so you got to be a big fan of some Owens Corning's
products. Me and the Pink Panther are constantly insulating my ass. Jason Moser, what are you
looking at this week? Well, Dan, I am a little bit more of a DIY guy. I don't know how I can
follow-up, Ron, here, but I'm going to try. Lowe's, ticker L-O-W, we've got earnings for
Lowe's coming out on Tuesday morning next week. A fun fact for you all, the five-year charts here,
we were talking about Home Depot earlier, Lowe's is up 165% over the last five years versus Home
Depot's 75%. Now, Lowe's share account is down about 28% compared to Home Depot's 8.5%,
so that has played into that calculus for sure. But just interesting to see. For all of the talk
and the credit we give to Home Depot, Lowe's has really brought the results these past five years.
The question, of course, is, given what we saw with Home Depot this week,
what will things look like for Lowe's next week? They did talk about residential investment being
under some pressure, talked about inflation, higher interest rates, more cautious consumer.
They are forecasting a slight decline in the home improvement market. And to that end,
they did guide for sales ranging in $88 billion to $90 billion range, which would be down from
a year ago, and then comps expected to be flat to down 2%. I think really the big question mark is,
will we see revisions to that guidance given what we saw with Home Depot this week? I wouldn't be
terribly surprised to see that, but we shall see. Dan, question about Lowe's?
So, not really a question, Chris, more of a comment. I always really enjoy Lowe's a whole
lot more than the Home Depot. I think it is a much better shopping experience. The stores are
nicer. The staff is more knowledgeable. And I think it's just better. I always prefer a Lowe's
to a Home Depot. That's really interesting. I guess, you know, I kind of go wherever it's
most convenient. I have to go to Home Depot tomorrow, as a matter of fact, to pick up some
deck wash. Guys, I got to- Said me never.
One hell of a weekend plan, let me tell you. By the way, plug for Ace Hardware. Don't sleep
on Ace Hardware. Very strong experience. That's where I go get all of my Traeger
stuff because it's really close to our house. Yeah, they've got all the Traeger goodies.
What do you want to add to your watch list, Dan?
I'm going to go with Lowe's, Chris.
I just like going.
As a homeowner, I think it's a great place.
Jason Moser of Ron Gross.
Guys, thanks for being here.
Thanks, Chris.
That's going to do it for this week's Motley Fool Money Radio Show.
The show is mixed by Dan Boyd.
I'm Chris Hill.
Thanks for listening.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you.
