Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - Big Retail, Apple, and the Fight for "Taco Tuesday"

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

As reports of Apple's next device surfaced, major retailers highlighted the week's earnings. (0:21) Ron Gross and Jason Moser discuss: - Walmart's grocery division (once again) doing the heavy liftin...g in its latest results - Reports that Apple will unveil a $3,000 device at its developer conference in early June - Netflix impressing advertisers and Wall Street - The latest from Home Depot, Target, Foot Locker, and Deere (19:11) Scott Phillips, chief investment officer at Motley Fool Australia, shares the current state of play for investors Down Under, Australian stocks to watch, and predictions for this year's Rugby World Cup. (30:28) Ron and Jason discuss Taco Bell fighting to free the phrase "Taco Tuesday" from its current trademark holder and share two stocks on their radar: Owens Corning and Lowe's. Stocks discussed: WMT, HD, TGT, FL, AAPL, MSFT, DE, NFLX, DIS, TTD, ASX, AMZN, MDB, GOOG, GOOGL, TEAM, TNE, YUM, LOW, OC Host: Chris Hill Guests: Jason Moser, Ron Gross, Scott Phillips Engineer: Dan Boyd, Tim Sparks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Chris Hilliard. We've got a big week for retail and a big debate over Taco Tuesday. Yes, really. Motley Fool Money starts now. Everybody needs money That's why they call it money The best things in life are free But you can give them to the birds and bees From Fool Global Headquarters This is Motley Fool Money
Starting point is 00:00:40 It's the Motley Fool Money Radio Show I'm Chris Hill. Joining me in studio, Motley Fool's Senior Analyst Jason Moser and Ron Gross. Good to see you as always, gentlemen. Hey, how are you doing, Chris? We got the latest headlines from Wall Street. We'll get a check on global markets with our guest Scott Phillips. And as always, we got a couple of stocks on our radar. But it was a big week for retail earnings, so we're going to start with the biggest one reporting. Walmart raised its full-year guidance after delivering a first-quarter report, highlighted by sales up more than 7%. And Ron, we've seen this frequently over the past couple of years.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Walmart's grocery business kind of doing the heavy lifting here. Yeah, exactly. Shoppers continue to gravitate to smaller package sizes, to store brands, because they're trying to manage their spending. And they continue to favor grocery spending over non-essentials, such as apparel, home goods, electronics. Those tend to have higher margins. But yes, they're focusing on grocery.
Starting point is 00:01:33 This was a strong report. was actually better than expected. As you mentioned, revenue and comp sales up about 7%. Those are pretty strong numbers. Slightly slower growth, I will mention, compared with the previous quarter, but just slightly. And they did gain market share, or management said they gained market share in groceries, so they continue to execute there. E-commerce was up 27%. That's pretty strong. Lifted by higher advertising revenue as they focus on their marketplace and also sells through their pickup and delivery services. So, strong numbers there. Gross margins did narrow just a bit on a different mix in sales, but nothing to be concerned about.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Inflation and food, although kind of on its way down, still 20% higher than two years ago. But operating up 17%, earnings up 13%. Management lifted its outlook, as you say. And things look pretty good here at Walmart. Are you surprised that they raised their guidance because CEO Doug McMillan, I mean, you mentioned the inflation. McMillan said on the call, inflation is creating uncertainty for us in the second half of this year. Well, I think they raised because this quarter was better than expected. So, just on that, you can raise. But I do think they're being cautious, as are other retailers when they give guidance. Home Depot's first quarter revenue was lower than expected. Same-store sales fell
Starting point is 00:02:57 more than 4%. And the company lowered sales guidance for the full fiscal year. And despite all that, Jason, shares of Home Depot up a little bit this week. I'm not complaining. I'm a shareholder, but I am a little pleasantly surprised. I, too, am a shareholder, and I, too, am very, very not disappointed with the way this week turned out. I mean, I know the stock being up surprised some. I think, you know, when you look at everything in total, right, yeah, sure, they guided down, but they really set that tone for the year a quarter ago. I don't think really there were any surprises as far as trepidation among the consumer, a shift from spending on products to a shift on spending in services. That's all playing out here. There's nothing
Starting point is 00:03:41 fundamentally wrong with the business at all. It's just exposed to greater macro forces that it has no control over. The numbers themselves, not terribly inspiring. Revenue $237.3 billion. It was actually down 4.2% from a year ago. Comps down 4.5%. U.S. comps down 4.6%. Ultimately, earnings per share of $3.82, down from $4.09 a year ago. A lot of the metrics that matter, comp average ticket was up just 0.2%, but the transactions fell 5%. And big ticket item comps were down 6.5%. Management did point out lumber deflation. I know we talk a lot about inflation. But in this case, lumber deflation, which is impacting the company's sales. That's my favorite kind of inflation. Exactly. And it did impact sales to the tune of about,
Starting point is 00:04:32 it impacted average ticket to the tune of about 335 basis points. Remember, lumber is close to 10% of Home Depot's overall business. Put some numbers around this. They used framing lumber as an example here. Framing lumber was approximately $422 per thousand board feet this quarter. Last year, $1,170. So, that's that inflation. It plays out on their top line in a bad way, but actually, it's kind of helpful to their margins. So, it's not all bad news. They paid out $2.1 billion in dividends. Got to love that. Repurchased approximately $3 billion in shares. That share's outstanding. It's come down 8.5% since 2019. So, that's all good. I think in regard to guidance, yeah, they pulled back a little bit. The earnings per share,
Starting point is 00:05:16 they see declining now between 7% and 13% versus 5% just a quarter ago. But even with that guidance, the stock is still valued at around 18 times full of your estimates, which, frankly, is a pretty opportunistic look at this one. Well, and you think about all of the pent-up demand in 2022, particularly over the summer, it makes sense that the guidance would not be amazing. Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. Target's first quarter results were better than expected, with inventory levels continuing to improve. Shares down a little bit this week, Ron, but it seemed like a somewhat similar quarter to what we saw out of Walmart. Except that Target focuses more on those bigger ticket non-essential
Starting point is 00:05:57 items. And that's where the two diverge. Walmart was strong because they focused on grocery and essential. Target struggled because they focused on the bigger ticket. And you can see that showing up in the numbers, which are better than expected in some circumstances, but pretty weak in general. Sales only up 0.5%. Comparable sales came in flat. Digital sales were down 3.4%. We're seeing not great numbers here for the quarter. Sales of food and beverage were up, as we saw with Walmart, but things like apparel, home goods, electronics fell rather sharply. Discretionary categories make up 54% of Target's annual sales. If those are weak, The numbers are just going to come in weak as well. Inventory was down 16%. They're trying to
Starting point is 00:06:45 work through the success inventory that they've had since the pandemic when they were inventoried in the wrong direction. Earnings down 6%. Second quarter guidance was weak, but management did maintain its full year guidance. But as we talked about with Walmart and them being conservative, executives used the word cautious 13 times during the earnings call. They're not feeling very confident about their visibility into the future. So, only 20 times forward guidance. I like the company in general, but they are working through the environment and the inventory problems they had from the past. I feel like I'm rubbing off on Ron here a little bit. You're searching terminology? How many times these things were used? You know, it's like the extra mile for
Starting point is 00:07:26 the listeners. I love that. Well, I was just going to say, if you just had the past 15 months that CEO Brian Cornell had had, wouldn't you be using the word cautious over and over again? Be very cautious about how many times you use the word cautious. On a related note, Cornell, more so than really any other retail CEO this week, was talking about organized retail theft, the challenge that they are facing. I know that this is something that every retail business deals with. Cornell was really talking about it as being a significant problem. Is that something to watch if you're looking at Target over the next 6 to 12 months,
Starting point is 00:08:03 how they deal with this more so than others? Absolutely, because they're calling out a big number, $500 million due to shrink or theft. That's a very big number. I almost can't see how it's going to be that big. Let's keep an eye on that. But they're not the only ones. Walmart mentioned it. Most major retailers are talking about it. It is a major problem in retail right now. If you've got $3,000 burning a hole in your pocket, good news. There's a brand new gadget coming to market with your name on it. Details after the break, so stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser and Ron Gross.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Shares of Foot Locker fell 25% on Friday after first quarter profits were solidly lower than Wall Street was expecting. The athletic apparel retailer also lowered guidance. Ron, CEO Mary Dylan did great things when she was running Ulta Beauty. Boy, she's got her work cut out for her at Foot Locker. This is not going to be easy for her. She joined last year, and they developed what they're calling their lace-up strategy. Maybe too cute there. But their lace-up strategy includes moving away from shopping malls, closing 400 underperforming stores, decreasing their dependence on Nike, which was significant, and improving their digital operation. Not working quite yet, Chris, because these numbers are very weak, and they were forced to lower guidance.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Total sales down 11%. Same-store sales down 9%. They blame macroeconomic headwinds, including lower income tax refunds, changing vendor mix. They're repositioning their Champs brand. And they had to take higher markdowns in order to move product. And they also did talk about shrink and theft as well. Adjusted profits down 57%. These are really weak numbers. They cut their guidance. They expect sales for the current year to fall between 6.5% and 8%. They did name a new CFO this week. But they've got their work to do. Trading only 15 times guidance, probably appropriate, maybe should be even cheaper in quotes. To bet on this company would be to bet on a significant turnaround. I was just going to say, you look at the stock,
Starting point is 00:10:26 the valuation, it's obviously cheaper today than it was last week. But it seems like, to use a phrase Jason Moser has used in the past, it seems like you need to pack a lunch on this one. It's going to take a while. And they don't really seem to be very different to me than a lot of the other apparel stores that you see in the average mall. So, they have their work cut out for them. Apple is planning to hold its annual developers conference on June 5th, and details of the event are starting to leak out. The Wall Street Journal reported this week that Apple is expected to unveil a mixed-reality headset resembling a pair of ski goggles that comes with an external battery pack and a price tag of $3,000. Jason, I will not be among the first to buy this device, but if any company can pull this off, I have to believe it's Apple. Maybe. I think a consumer device for this nascent market in mixed reality cannot stay
Starting point is 00:11:26 $3,000. I think that's just prohibitively expensive. And I don't think very many people will be clamoring to get that device. But it is Apple. There will be some. And that really is the power of their brand. And ultimately, the fact that they really make good stuff, right? As time goes on, we'll see that price come down. We'll see more and more experimentation with core use cases. It's just that standard sort of hardware thing. They introduce something new. It'll find its way into the market. Demand either materializes or it doesn't. If it doesn't, you bring the price down. I think at some point, though, the price is only part of the equation. Really, when it comes to this mixed reality stuff, it's finding the use cases. I think there are two opportunities
Starting point is 00:12:06 ultimately in play here. I know a lot of the focus is on the consumer, getting a head site and escaping off into another world. But you look at industrial augmented virtual mixed reality, industrial has gained far more traction in recent years simply because of the clear and beneficial use cases. I mean, you're thinking of things like 3D step-by-step operating or repair instructions, a dashboard of the analytics data to be able to help assess and complete a task. Think about things like healthcare. So, you've got companies like PTC and Ansys on the software side. Microsoft, with its HoloLens, a lot of investments they've made there, not really working out either. Apple's just kind of sitting there biding its time, sort of watching this
Starting point is 00:12:47 market unfold. And I think that's the right thing to do, particularly with its scale and its resources. But yeah, I would imagine $3,000 is not going to have that thing flying off the shelves. There are a couple interesting things at play here, one of which is the fact that, at least according to the report in The Wall Street Journal, this is more so than any new device launch that Apple has had, probably in its history. This thing is not ready to go. They are reportedly planning to come out with something that is kind of in the beta phase at this point. The other thing is, think back to earlier this month, the response we saw for Alphabet. Google had its annual developers conference. The response
Starting point is 00:13:31 was so positive to what they unveiled. And by the way, this $3,000 device, this is not going to be the only thing Apple unveils at their developer conference. So from a stock perspective, it's going to be interesting to see what happens in early June, the response to this and what may come in the market. Yeah. I mean, I don't think this is anything that is a tailwind or a headwind either for the business in the near term. I think it makes sense. They need to get into this market at some point sooner rather than later, lest they just get passed by everyone. But again, it does feel like, from the consumer's perspective, this really is a market that's still looking for those core use cases, and the technology is only going to be able to do so much
Starting point is 00:14:12 there. Last week on the show, Andy Cross called out Deere as the stock on his radar. On Friday morning, Deere raised guidance after second quarter profits came in higher than expected. Did you tell me, Ron, how'd they do? They did well. As you said, they were able to increase their guidance as supply chain problems eased. Not go away, but they're easing, and the company was able to benefit from higher prices. It's a very cyclical business, but they're in a strong part of the cycle right now, even an upgrade cycle, you could probably call it. Sales are up 30%. There's demand by farmers for new equipment and parts to repair aging machinery that they haven't really upgraded in quite some time. Sales rose across each
Starting point is 00:14:56 of the company's three segments on higher prices and volume. Their large farm equipment segment, which is their largest, rose 53% from a year earlier, and the profits more than doubled for that segment. So, real strong. Construction up 23%. Small machinery up 16%. Margins widened as they controlled costs and as those supply chain constraints, as I mentioned, started to ease. The one weak part of their business was their financial services business. It's a very small part of the business, down significantly because of the movements around interest rates, but nothing to be concerned about. Earnings up 42%. Raised guidance. Orders remain strong, even though crop commodity prices continue to come down. So, if that continues,
Starting point is 00:15:44 That's where the cycle is going to reverse at some point eventually. But for now, they felt like they could raise guidance. Only trading 12X forward, which is similar to where Caterpillar is now, so that makes sense. John May is one of those executives whose timing is maybe a little unfortunate. He became CEO of Deere right before the pandemic. Kind of impressive that he's raising guidance at a time like this, particularly when you factor in, As Doug McMillan said, the uncertainty around inflation affects every business. Yeah. Deere has done a good job with new products, bringing software to their products in a pretty big way, which will impact margins in a good way going forward. But it is cyclical. You can't
Starting point is 00:16:28 really escape those macroeconomic cycles. So, investing in Deere, you have to understand that. On Wednesday, Netflix held its upfront presentation to advertisers and said that its new ad-supported tier has nearly 5 million monthly active users. That must have been music to Wall Street's ears, because on Thursday, shares of Netflix up 10%, Jason. Yeah, I understand the enthusiasm here, and let's dig into why that's the case. First and foremost, it feels like the honeymoon is over here. If you want ad-free TV, you've got to prepare to pay up for it. Because a clear strategy here for these businesses going forward, the economics of ad-supported, they're very compelling for these businesses. So,
Starting point is 00:17:06 they're really trying to push more and more subscribers to those ad-supported models. You start with Netflix, for example. In the U.S., they noted in their most recent earnings report that the ads plan has already reached a total average revenue per member, which is the subscription plus the ad revenue that's greater than their standard plan. Now, thanks to their licensing deals. The ad-supported plan has, on average, around 95% content parity globally with their ad-free plans. So, you're getting basically apples to apples there. Going to Disney, you're looking at Disney, you're seeing the same thing. Iger talked about on the call here, they have realized the economic benefits of the ad-supported plan. They're actually going to raise
Starting point is 00:17:54 the price of the ad-free plans in order to create essentially more demand for the ad-supported plan, because the ad-supported plan is so economically beneficial to the models there. They're seeing the same thing. Average revenue per users just turning in some very promising numbers there. And then you look at something like Trade Desk, which is kind of the backbone of a lot of this programmatic advertising to begin with. They talk about hearing this language from Netflix regarding programmatic ads. They're obviously partnering with Disney on that front as well. You see a number of different ways to win in this space, but clearly, Netflix, Disney, and the Trade Desk are three of the companies that are really leading the way here, it seems.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I'm so spoiled. Every time I hit fast-forward on a show and it says, fast-forward is not enabled for this show, I'm like, oh, I'll just throw the remote. Well, and you're seeing more and more content getting on platforms like, I mean, Freebie, right? That Amazon-supported freebie offering. What? Have you seen Jury Duty? I mean, come on, guys. You've got to check that one out. All right, guys. We'll see you later in the show. After the break, it's our man in Australia, Scott Phillips. This is Motley Fool Money. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill. Scott Phillips is the Chief Investing Officer at Motley Fool Australia. He is also the host of a very popular investing podcast,
Starting point is 00:19:29 which also goes by the name of Motley Fool Money. He joins me now from the Gold Coast. Scott, it's been too long. Thanks so much for making the time. Chris, you are very kind, mate. I'm always, always humbled to appear on the radio show. And mate, can I say, I've drafted shamelessly off Motley Fool Money. The original, the OG, called out the same thing because, hey, limitations is a serious form of flattery, right? Absolutely. I do want to talk about the market in Australia, but I am curious what the view of the U.S. stock market is from your vantage point. At a high level, 2022 was the worst year in over a decade. 2023 here in the States has been dominated by, yes, on a business level,
Starting point is 00:20:16 a lot of talk of AI, but also at a macro level, a lot of discussion of interest rate hikes and the debt ceiling. And I'm curious, when you look at stocks in America, what stands out to you? Chris, I still believe that the U.S. market, the U.S. economy has some of the very, very best businesses on the planet. That's no surprise to you and no surprise to your listeners. And I think what's been fascinating for Australian investors is the last 12 months, 2022 in particular, I should say, in Australia wasn't as bad as in the US because we have an abundance of resources companies and banks in Australia. And despite some of the banking dramas you guys have been having, 2022 was actually a relatively good year because
Starting point is 00:21:01 the energy sector, which really is big in Australia, was really successful. So, when we look at the US over the last 12, 18 months, I think there's been a bit of a a surprise. A lot of our growth and tech stocks got smashed as yours did during 2022. The recovery of your market, not surprising at all. I am very excited about the future for American companies. I think the work that's being done by some of the very best, biggest, fastest growing companies on the planet is happening on the NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange. While the index itself, a great opportunity for Australian investors to jump in U.S. stocks last year, but I am every bit as excited as I ever have been about the future
Starting point is 00:21:45 of U.S. business, of U.S. listed companies, of the value that's being created by some of the best businesses on the planet. What is the current state of play these days for Aussie investors? Based on comments that you've made on your show, things that you've written, we follow each other on Twitter, so based on some of your tweets, I get the sense did you think the ASX is, I don't know if bargain is the right word, but it seems like an opportunity. I think that's right. I love the way you phrased that, mate. I think there's always someone out there, you know this, your listeners know this, there's always someone out there who's prepared to say the next crash is coming or everything's going to be terrible, watch out for
Starting point is 00:22:29 the next bear market, we know the usual suspects. If you look at the long-term history of the Australian Stock Exchange, the US stock markets, the developed world stock markets, they go up and to the right. Not in a straight line, not without pullbacks, not without years like 2022. But the future is always bright. The best time to buy shares is always today. Not because necessarily I know what's going to happen tomorrow, but because if you look back over any stretch of time, the immense value created by investing in public markets has just been phenomenal. Quite honestly, mate, for the last, I've been working for The Motley Fool, not quite as long as you have, but for a long time now. And I have been saying since day one, and today,
Starting point is 00:23:12 and hopefully many years into the future, buy stocks today. Not because I'm making any macro forecasts or market forecasts. We all think that's a silly thing to try and do. But because the awesome power of compounding by some of the best companies on the planet is just something you don't want to stand in the way of. Betting against that is crazy. So honestly, mate, yeah, I actually do think right now, particularly for stock pickers in the Australian market, some of our companies are very expensive, but there are a lot that are still suffering from market jitters, from pessimism, from concern about what might come next economically. But I think in three, five and 10 years' time, we'll look back and say, why did we let the next three months worry us
Starting point is 00:23:52 when the 10 years that followed that are very likely to be very good? So, yeah, I absolutely would be, investing in general, as always. But I do think there is absolutely a great opportunity for stock pickers in the ASX. You and I have talked in the past about Domino's Pizza, among other companies based in the U.S., as doing well in Australia. For folks listening, what's another American business that you think is faring pretty well and connecting with either consumers or businesses in Australia? Yeah, that's a great question, mate. And I think what I hope your listeners know that I haven't seen the numbers recently,
Starting point is 00:24:32 but not that many years ago, half of the revenue from the S&P 500 companies came outside the U.S. And if you open up any cupboard in Australia, if you open up, if you work with any business in Australia, the number of us companies that we deal with and work with remains really strong mate i'm i'm going to this this won't surprise your listeners it's not a particularly original answer but uh i'm a shareholder of amazon i'm a long-term shareholder of amazon i love that business i think it's an amazing company and it continues to do really really well around the world so if i can give your listeners a uh an antipodean a down under perspective on amazon it is that it is making every bit of the same inroads here as it's been making in the us for many many
Starting point is 00:25:15 many years. It remains an incredibly strong, incredibly successful business. I think it will be for a long time to come. Some other businesses that I think, MongoDB, a business that you've talked about a lot, is a business that does continue to, again, make inroads here. The world of software is something Australian companies just don't compete anywhere near as well as we do in other industries because the best software businesses, the most dominant global software businesses tend to be born over there where you are. And that, at the speed of the internet, we all know, is just phenomenally fast. The growth of that has been incredible. I am, as you said, interested in AI and the growth of that. I think, and again, think about the cloud, the web
Starting point is 00:26:01 businesses. Think about Microsoft's cloud business, Amazon's cloud business, again, Google, the same thing. I own shares in Alphabet as well. These are just phenomenal, phenomenal businesses. And I think the growth of these around the world, I really want your listeners to know you can invest globally from right there at home because of the sheer scale and breadth of some of your best businesses. Speaking of software, one Australian-based business that we talked recently on the show about was Atlassian. Let's go beyond that. What's one or two other publicly traded Australian businesses that you think more Americans should know about? Yeah, let me give you two, Chris. One is Xero. The code in Australia is X-R-O. It is a cloud
Starting point is 00:26:45 accounting business. Some of your listeners may be using Xero. It is available in the U.S. It's not anywhere near as dominant there as it is here. It's actually a New Zealand business, but Australia claims all the good New Zealand businesses as our own, so we'll keep doing that. It is ASX listed, though. It is a company that has something like 70% market share in New Zealand. It's the most dominant cloud accounting software package here in Australia, big in the UK, hoping to grow in the US. It is a really fantastic business, visionary leadership. It took the Salesforce software as a service model and really ran with it hard and continues to make every post a winner. The other one's a very different business called Technology One.
Starting point is 00:27:26 You guys talk about enterprise resource planning software a lot. This is a company, TNE is the code on the ASX. It is a company that basically provides enterprise software, as I said, for some really, really sticky customers. And if you're looking for defensive software, these guys provide software for government, education, and healthcare. They are three sectors that aren't going away anytime soon. Their customers are pretty sticky, and they're going to be around.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Their earnings growth has just been almost staircase-like over the last 10, 15 years. They continue to get customers. their retention rate is above 99% in terms of number of customers. It's a really, really great quality Australian software business that I think has a long, long way to run. I know you're passionate about investing, but I know there is something else coming up in a few months that you're also passionate about. And I'm talking, of course, about the Rugby World Cup. It's going to be held in France. It's been 24 years, Scott, since Australia has won the Rugby World Cup. And I'm curious how you're feeling about the Wallabies' chances.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Mate, we are going to win this one. No, there is no question about it, Chris. We are absolute lay-down Mazares. Can I also say, by the way, the Women's World Cup is being held in Australia very soon too. So we have two big World Cups. I feel very good about our chances in both. I'm sorry to your Kiwi listeners, to your UK listeners, to your European listeners who think their teams are going to win. I hate to break it to them.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I'm going to say it here first and exclusively, Chris, I'm not being full money. Australia will win both Rugby World Cups. I have absolutely every confidence. That's, again, not even a question, mate. I might as well not even bother turning up. We're that good. You can check out the Australian version of Motley Fool Money on whatever podcast app is your favorite. It is free. You get a different perspective on the stock market and you get more insights and analysis from this guy. Scott Phillips, always great talking to you. Thank you so much for being here. Chris, it's absolutely my pleasure,
Starting point is 00:29:18 mate. I will not leave this podcast without thanking you for your many years of loyal service to The Motley Fool. More importantly, I think, to Motley Fool Money and to your listeners. I am a loyal listener and have always been. We will miss you dearly at the company. Your listeners will miss you even more, mate. Thank you very much for everything you've done for investors and for listeners across your time at The Motley Fool. We are very, very lucky and grateful for your service. I appreciate it, Scott. Thank you so much. Up next, Jason Moser and Ron Gross return. They got a couple of stocks on their radar. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
Starting point is 00:30:21 As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about, and The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against, so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money, Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser and Ron Gross. Guys, where we sit right now in this studio, we are just two blocks away from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. This is relevant because this week, Taco Bell petitioned the PTO to be able to use the phrase Taco Tuesday, which, of course, begs the question, why can't they? That's because another restaurant chain holds the trademark on the phrase, and it is not the restaurant you may have guessed. It is Taco
Starting point is 00:31:06 John's, a chain headquartered in Wyoming, and they have held the trademark on the phrase Taco Taco Tuesday since 1989, Ron. I'm a little torn here because this is, look, Taco Bell is 20 times the size of Taco John's. This is David versus Goliath. I'm kind of on Goliath's side because Taco Bell isn't saying, we want the phrase. They're saying, hey, everybody should get to use this phrase. Well, since I own the trademark on the word Tuesday, I pay it a little bit every time they use Taco Tuesday. So, who am I to complain? But yeah, it's a little much for me. The history of this is fascinating. It started out as Taco Tuesday, T-W-O-S-D-A-Y. They were just saying, hey, we're going to sell you two tacos for $0.99. They tried to gin up some sales
Starting point is 00:31:51 back in 1980 or something like that. It worked out, so then they took it from here. It's fascinating to see the Patent and Trademark Office, they granted this trademark at $0.89. Attorneys say it's eligible for protection. Other attorneys feel like Taco Bell has a strong case here because U.S. trademark law, quote, unquote, prevents the registration of common phrases or phrases that become commonplace after a registration is granted. So, ultimately, Chris, the biggest tragedy of all of this, it seems like the lawyers are ultimately the winners here. Am I right that LeBron James tried to do this as well? He did.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Unsuccessfully? He did. Yeah. Hmm. Give it to the people. This should belong to all of us. Before we get to the radar stocks, I need to mention something that came up earlier in the week, an announcement that went out to podcast and radio trade media that I will be leaving The Motley Fool at the end of the month. My last episode on the podcast is going to be May 30th, and I will, at that time, share some thoughts and answer some questions about my departure. But this is my last appearance
Starting point is 00:32:54 on our radio show, and I wanted to say a quick word of thanks to the people who run our affiliate radio stations. We started Motley Fool Money in February 2009. In January 2010, this became the first podcast to be heard on commercial radio. I know podcasting has grown in popularity over the years, but broadcast radio is an important form of media. I'm proud of the fact that this show is now heard on more than 75 stations, making it the No. 1 stock investing radio show in America. The economics of weekend talk radio are such that rather than running original programs like ours, a lot of talk stations just sell the time to run things like hour-long commercials for health supplements. So, I wanted to thank a few of the radio executives who made the decision
Starting point is 00:33:42 to make this show available to their audience. Robin Bertolucci in Los Angeles, Russ Reynolds in San Francisco, Lisa Wolfe right here in Washington, D.C., Renee York in Phoenix, Max Miller in Sacramento, and Janine Lee in Hartford, Connecticut. These are the early investors in Motley Fool Money as a radio show. Their stamp of approval helped us get to where we are today, and I just wanted to thank them on my last appearance on the radio show. Well said, Chris. And I'll be brief so I don't get emotional here, but we've been doing this together for around 14 years, and it has been a highlight of my time here at The Fool. You've made it so easy and so fun, and it's been a true pleasure. We will miss you, but don't be a
Starting point is 00:34:24 stranger, please. I won't. I will echo those sentiments. I mean, 14 years is more great memories than I think probably any of us can really pull. But one that will always stand out is when you and Dan and I loaded up the train and went up to New York City and taped Market Foolery on location at Shake Shack to celebrate their IPO. We had lunch. They brought us one of every dessert. It was just a sublime day. That'll be one that always stands out. Thank you for everything. We'll miss you. I appreciate that. Let's get to the stocks on our radar. Our man behind the glass, Dan Boyd, is going to hit you with a question. Ron, you're up first. What are you looking at this week? Dan, you're going to love it. I'm going with
Starting point is 00:35:03 good old Owens Corning, OC, largest manufacturer of fiberglass insulation and the second largest producer of asphalt roofing shingles in the U.S. If that doesn't get your blood pumping, Dan, I don't know what will. 30% of revenue generated internationally. This is the same Owens Corning that had to file for bankruptcy back in 2000 as a result of asbestos-related injuries. The company did reemerge six years later. They plan to reorganize, include a trust to resolve both the current and future liability from that. Demand is obviously driven by new residential construction, repair and remodeling, increasingly difficult building codes that require energy efficiency. Since initiating its dividend in 2014, increased its payout every year at a compound
Starting point is 00:35:51 annual rate of 12.5%. Also reduced its share count by 23% over the same period. Currently has a 2% dividend yield, trading for a little over 10 times, which is relatively cheap compared to others in that industry. Dan, question about Owens Corning? Yeah, Ron. What kind of equipment do you have at your house for insulation, installation, and roofing? I know you're a big DIY guy, so you got to be a big fan of some Owens Corning's products. Me and the Pink Panther are constantly insulating my ass. Jason Moser, what are you looking at this week? Well, Dan, I am a little bit more of a DIY guy. I don't know how I can follow-up, Ron, here, but I'm going to try. Lowe's, ticker L-O-W, we've got earnings for
Starting point is 00:36:39 Lowe's coming out on Tuesday morning next week. A fun fact for you all, the five-year charts here, we were talking about Home Depot earlier, Lowe's is up 165% over the last five years versus Home Depot's 75%. Now, Lowe's share account is down about 28% compared to Home Depot's 8.5%, so that has played into that calculus for sure. But just interesting to see. For all of the talk and the credit we give to Home Depot, Lowe's has really brought the results these past five years. The question, of course, is, given what we saw with Home Depot this week, what will things look like for Lowe's next week? They did talk about residential investment being under some pressure, talked about inflation, higher interest rates, more cautious consumer.
Starting point is 00:37:23 They are forecasting a slight decline in the home improvement market. And to that end, they did guide for sales ranging in $88 billion to $90 billion range, which would be down from a year ago, and then comps expected to be flat to down 2%. I think really the big question mark is, will we see revisions to that guidance given what we saw with Home Depot this week? I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see that, but we shall see. Dan, question about Lowe's? So, not really a question, Chris, more of a comment. I always really enjoy Lowe's a whole lot more than the Home Depot. I think it is a much better shopping experience. The stores are nicer. The staff is more knowledgeable. And I think it's just better. I always prefer a Lowe's
Starting point is 00:38:08 to a Home Depot. That's really interesting. I guess, you know, I kind of go wherever it's most convenient. I have to go to Home Depot tomorrow, as a matter of fact, to pick up some deck wash. Guys, I got to- Said me never. One hell of a weekend plan, let me tell you. By the way, plug for Ace Hardware. Don't sleep on Ace Hardware. Very strong experience. That's where I go get all of my Traeger stuff because it's really close to our house. Yeah, they've got all the Traeger goodies. What do you want to add to your watch list, Dan? I'm going to go with Lowe's, Chris.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I just like going. As a homeowner, I think it's a great place. Jason Moser of Ron Gross. Guys, thanks for being here. Thanks, Chris. That's going to do it for this week's Motley Fool Money Radio Show. The show is mixed by Dan Boyd. I'm Chris Hill.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time. Thank you.

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