Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - How To Handle A Raise
Episode Date: May 3, 2022A trio of earnings reports from Hilton Hotels, Expedia, and Avis Budget Group give us the chance to zoom in on the travel industry. (0:20) Asit Sharma discusses: - Key metrics for hotels, bookings, an...d car rentals - Travel industry's growth having a positive ripple effect on advertising revenue - Why he prefers travel brands with staying power (13:10) Alison Southwick and Robert Brokamp discuss how to adjust your monthly budget after you get a raise. Here's the retirement calculator Bro mentioned! - http://calcxml.com/calculators/retirement-planning?skn=606 Stocks discussed: HLT, EXPE, CAR, ABNB, MAR Host: Chris Hill Guests: Asit Sharma, Alison Southwick, Robert Brokamp, Producer: Ricky Mulvey Engineers: Dan Boyd, Rick Engdahl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Chris, thank you for having me. A question that I find myself
asking with greater frequency, and I'm not alone, which gives me some comfort. The question is,
where should I be looking as a stock investor? You can look at categories of stocks,
you can also look at industries. Today, the travel industry is front and center
in the news, so I thought this is as good an opportunity as any to look at the travel
industry. Hilton Hotels, Expedia, Avis Budget, they're all out with their first quarter earnings
reports. I will just add, go ahead and ignore what's happening with those stocks today. Over
the last six months, all three of these stocks have outperformed both the NASDAQ and the S&P 500.
I wanted to spend a couple of minutes on each, get your thoughts, and then talk about the travel
industry writ large. Let's start with Hilton Hotels. The profits look good. The full-year
guidance was lower than Wall Street wanted, although this is not really the time or the
environment for any company to go big with guidance. But in general, this seemed like
a good quarter for Hilton. Yeah. Hasn't Wall Street seen what's
going on in the larger world? They've got expectations for later this year. Best to
check those expectations at the door and look what's happening on the ground here, which
I think is pretty positive for Hilton. Chris, they had a profitable quarter, they had net
income of $211 million. What I really liked about this report is their system-wide comparable
rev par, that's fancy speak for revenue per available room, an average revenue they have
broken down by room. That increased by about 81% from the prior period last year, which
as you remember was one where Omicron, that variant was all over the news. Traffic in
all these travel companies was coming again to a halt, not quite as bad as we had in 2020,
but Hilton took a hit. What I loved about their increase in RevPAR
is that the two big components, average daily rate and occupancy, both were strong. Not
only are people coming back and traveling both for business and leisure, they're willing
to pay the slightly higher prices that they paid last year when it was a little easier
to get a room, whether you were traveling for business or leisure purpose.
This is something, and I'm glad you hit on this, this is something that we saw with Expedia as
well. Because Expedia's first quarter loss was smaller than expected. The stock is, when I
checked earlier, was down about 12% today. But you look inside Expedia's report, and you can see
in the numbers the demand for travel. People are spending more money. In the case of Expedia,
Airfare, the cost of airfare was up, but the number of tickets sold was also up. Hotel rates
on the rise, but hotel stays up more than 50%. This is just one of those things that, again,
that's why I say, forget about what the stocks are doing today, you can look at these three
and just see the demand for travel going higher. Chris, I know we're going to talk also
a little bit in general about investing in this industry. I don't want to say too much just now,
but Expedia has a pretty nice brand. They're getting a lift as travel resumes,
people are going to their various properties. Hotels.com comes to mind because I'm a cheapskate,
and that's one of the places that I look when I'm going to travel. I've been on their site
as of late looking at some potential room nights. But this is the thing also we have to keep in mind,
not every company in the travel industry is going to be back to 2019 levels. When we look at the
tech industry, often you and I talk and we see companies that are already exceeding 2019
performance. But here, Expedia, while they're up 52% in their stayed room night growth versus
their first quarter of 2021, they're still lagging 2019 and haven't quite gotten back to that
critical mass of volume that they need among all their various travel properties to be profitable.
This quarter, they had a net loss of $122 million, but they're on the right path. Their gross
bookings are really jumping up here, $24 billion in gross bookings versus just $15 billion roughly
this time last year. A positive trend here for Expedia, not quite there, but again,
they're on the right path despite so many geopolitical events that
past COVID keep throwing them for a loop. I'm referring, of course, to the word Ukraine.
Obviously, both of them tied to the hotel industry. You talk about the revenue per
room. I always think of it as heads on beds. If you're in the hotel business,
that's what you're looking for. You want heads on beds. Avis Budget Group,
first quarter profits came in higher than expected. They already had a stock buyback plan
in place and they said, we're going to increase that plan by $3 billion. I can't say with any
authority how good they are at that. I will just look at their stock chart and say if they're going
to buy back shares, they're buying back at a higher price because that's a stock that's done
well over the last couple of years. Yeah, stock has done well. Management
obviously thinks that investors will appreciate them putting these excess profits to work. Looking
at that stock chart, yeah, I think investors do like this and they want more utilization
of free cash towards reducing share count here. But they are firing all cylinders because we have
to trot out a lame cliche if we're talking about the car industry here. I like that this jump in
quarterly revenues of 77% was accompanied by some nice profitability on the bottom line. But again,
we see a trend here. Chris, they mentioned that their revenue increase was driven by rental days
as demand improved and increased revenue per day. We have this pricing power element going on.
Now, in the car industry, there is demand for cars, there are fewer cars, fewer new cars,
and this has ripple effects everywhere. We're still dealing with supply chain issues
that are causing chip shortages. Rental car companies are able to utilize this to their
advantage. People need to rent more vehicles. Again, we have the tailwind of improved travel,
which is pushing this company. I think of the three that we're talking about today,
they're probably enjoying the best performance. Airbnb is going to report after
the closing bell today. One of the things I like about Airbnb as a business is they don't
really need to spend a ton of money on marketing. They've talked before about how word of mouth
is such an important lever for them and they're not paying for word of mouth.
You look at businesses like the three that we're talking about today, Expedia, Hilton,
Avis Budget. You can go ahead and throw Marriott in there as well. Those are businesses that do
depend on marketing and advertising. It occurs to me as we're having this conversation,
that one of the nice ripple effects of the travel industry bouncing back the way we're seeing,
the demand for travel increasing the way that we're seeing, is for advertising businesses.
This has to be a win for businesses like Alphabet and Facebook, who depend on advertising.
I think so. I think this also proves the resiliency of both the advertising model
and the travel model. Long-term, the U.S. economy keeps growing even at our worst. These are tough
times with interest rates so high, inflation is going through the roof. We probably will still
managed to eke out some economic growth this year. We're a consumption-based economy. Over time,
as you said at the outset of this conversation, Chris, when an investor is trying to choose where
to invest, this is one of those logical places, but I think it takes some nuance. For me, how I
invest in this sector is, I try to think about big brands, powerful brands that have some staying
power. If I'm looking for the highest growth vehicles, I'll probably look outside the travel
industry. When I'm investing in this, I'm thinking about these companies. We've mentioned several
today. I'm an owner of Airbnb. I'm an owner of Marriott, for example. We're talking about
durability, advantages of scale. Hilton has that. They've got a pipeline of several hundred
thousand rooms that are in development. They make a lot of money just franchising their brand name.
We could talk about each of these companies as having that staying power. That's what you want
as an investor, and maybe you won't get the most powerful growth that way. But when you're building
out a portfolio, it can't all be tech, nor can it be the sleepiest industry, say, utilities industry.
And this is a good place to look in that regard. I love what you said about brands with staying
power, because if you think about experiences that people have with travel, whether you're
traveling for pleasure or for business, there isn't an emotional component to it. You know,
anytime you're traveling, people will always ask you, how was the travel? Not how were things at
your destination, whether it was a vacation or a business meeting or a conference or something
like that, but how was the travel? And how the travel went has an impact on the brand. And I
think you're absolutely right that the more people, you know, a business like Marriott, which
I, to my own detriment, do not own shares of, the more Marriott can continue to fulfill the
brand promise that they are making, whether it's to business travelers or to people on vacation,
the more they're just going to strengthen that brand and the more it becomes a brand with staying
power. I agree. Let's just keep on Marriott for just a second. They really understand
their consumer. They have a wonderful loyalty program, which is helping them actually move
business off of sites like Expedia and make it more direct with their customers. They have that
relationship. We as consumers, even if we, in this particular industry, switch to being more Airbnb
consumers than Marriott, we will still, in certain situations, be it business travel or you just
happen to check one of Marriott's sites and they've got from budget to, of course, very upscale
properties under their big banner. We might stay at a property here and again. They've got that
core business that resonates with customers. I think that this is how you want to play this
industry. It's volatile. At the end of the day, it's not immune to shocks. It's prone to exogenous
shocks. But over time, Chris, you and I, we got to get out. We have to see the world. You and I can't
always be hanging out together on Zoom. No, we can't. As much as I enjoy hanging
out on Zoom with you, no, we need to get out. Asit Sharma, love talking to you. Thanks for
being here. Always fun. Thanks again, Chris.
Remember, you can email podcasts at fool.com with your questions about stocks and money
like Erica did. She wrote, I recently received a 5% raise. I just turned 30. I'm saving for a house,
paying off student loans, paying rent, and of course, saving for retirement using the
Motley Fool's guidance. What recommendations do you have for adjusting your budget
with an adjustment in income? Great question, Erica. With some tips on how to handle a raise,
here's Robert Brokamp and Alison Southwick.
Last week, we talked about getting a raise. This week, we'll discuss what you should do
if you're successful, like Erica. Much of what we'll discuss doesn't just apply to a bigger
paycheck, but to any financial windfall you might receive. Getting a raise is great news,
but it might actually be even better than you think. Why is that, bro?
Well, because it's actually much more than getting a paycheck. There are a few examples
why this is the case. We'll start with one here. You may be boosting your eventual Social Security
benefit because it's based on your 35 highest-earning years adjusted for wage inflation.
If you get a raise and it's among your better-earning years, it might knock out one of
those lower-earning years. This is similar to other benefits you receive, like a pension or
employer-provided life and disability insurance. Many of these are based on your annual income.
The more you earn, the more valuable that benefit. It could also result in a higher
employer 401k match if you get one, since most match formulas are based on a percentage of your
income. Depending on your plan, this may be true even if you personally don't contribute
more to your 401 , though you should, and we'll get to that later. All kinds of good
things come with getting a raise. You know who's also happy to hear
you received a raise? Your dear Uncle Sam. He misses you.
Yes, here is the less good news of getting a raise. You have to share your raise
with Uncle Sam in the form of higher taxes. Same with sister state if you live in a state
that charges income taxes. Tax season just ended. Really, we should all think about whether
we're having too much or too little withheld from our paychecks. You want to make changes
now so you don't owe too much next April, or get a huge refund, which I know feels good,
but we probably could have done better things with our money than give the government an
interest-free loan. By the way, April just ended, so we're already one-third through 2022,
believe it or not. You have two-thirds of the rest of the year to get your withholdings rate.
Since higher income means higher taxes, getting a raise is a good time to reevaluate those
withholdings. The IRS does have a tax withholding calculator, lots of fun. You can find it just by
Googling it for it, and it'll help you with the calculations. If you figure out that you should
have more or less withheld, you submit a new W-4 to your employer, and they probably can help you
with that process. We're also talking a little bit about windfalls in general, and the tax
consequences of those varies on the type of windfall. For example, a bonus does not just
get added to your income and taxed like the rest of your pay. It's considered supplemental income
and is usually taxed at a flat rate of 22%. That might be more or less than you need to have
withheld, so then you compensate with the rest of your pay. Since this has been in the news recently,
I'll add that debt forgiveness, which is kind of a windfall, generally is taxable. However,
that may not be the case for forgiven student loans. It depends on various factors. A law passed
last year makes most forgiven federal education debt tax-free, but only through 2025. So, as
always, dig in the details of your particular situation. I'll just throw in a final note on
taxes here. A higher income could result in you being ineligible for some tax breaks or being
ineligible to make some contributions to investment accounts like a Coverdell Education Savings
Account or a Roth IRA. Not the Roth 401k. Anyone can contribute to the Roth 401k. But if you make
too much money, you can't contribute to the Roth IRA. If your income was already close
to those eligibility thresholds, evaluate whether you can still contribute.
Okay. You've thought about the IRS, and now you're looking at that money pile that's
left over. Yes, you can treat yourself. We'll get to that. But first, hopefully, you're
thinking about the long-term. Yes. Ideally, you'll be able to use
some of this newfound money to buy a better future, if you can. As you might expect, we
don't recommend that you blow your extra dough on more stuff. Ideally, you'll use it to fortify
your financial future by saving and investing a portion of that new money. That said, we know
that many people are getting raises that are below the rate of inflation. Some folks are going to
need really every penny of their after-tax raise just to cover the cost of living. But if that's
not you, then ideally, you'll be able to use a portion of your raise or windfall to build an
emergency fund, pay off high-interest debt, like credit cards charging 15%, or just save more for
retirement or college if you have kids. Let's return to Erica, whom we heard from at the
beginning of this segment. She has school loans, wants to buy a house, and is saving for retirement.
What should she do with her new raise? Well, at this point, I wouldn't be in a hurry to pay off
school loans. Repayments of federal loans have been paused until August 31st. There's all that
recent talk of loan forgiveness, again, mostly of federal loans. Plus, the interest rates on school
debt are generally low. Interest is tax deductible for lower and middle-income Americans, and you
don't even have to itemize to take that deduction. That leaves the house in retirement. She could set
up a higher-yielding online savings account and have money automatically transferred after each
paycheck to begin building up a down payment for the house, and then use some of her raise to save
more for retirement. It's just really about everyone should. In fact, if you don't save
more for retirement, getting a raise might actually put you farther behind. That's the
conclusion of a report from Morningstar entitled, More Money, More Problems, How to Keep a Bigger
paycheck from spoiling retirement. According to their research, most people don't increase
their savings rates as their income rises. Instead, they use it to increase their lifestyle.
They go out to eat, they buy nicer cars, they get a bigger house, that type of stuff.
As the report put it, yesterday's indulgences become today's new normal and tomorrow's
expectation, otherwise known as lifestyle creep. The problem is, the more you increase the cost
of your lifestyle, the more you increase the cost of your retirement, because most people
want to maintain that lifestyle when they quit work. No one wants to have to cut back.
Now, you might think, well, I'm saving a percentage of my income, so when my income goes up,
my savings will also go up, and I'll be just fine. But the Morningstar report found that this may not
be the case, and workers should also increase their savings rates, that is, the percentage
of income that they're saving for retirement. The report actually suggested the following
guideline, spend twice your years to retirement. So, if you're 20 years from retirement, you can
spend 40% of your raise, but then save the rest. Or just follow the advice of podcast listener Dave
Gee, who emailed us a few years back and said that when he was in college, he was taught to
save half of each raise. He did so, and that allowed him to gradually build up to a savings
rate of over 40% by the time he was in his 50s and allowed him to retire early. But of course,
dear listener, your situation is going to be unique because you're so darn special.
So, the Morningstar report also suggests that this would be a good time to meet with a financial
planner who can help determine how much of your raise you should be saving. After all,
if you're really behind, you should bank it all. Of course, this also applies if you receive some
sort of a windfall. If you're behind in your retirement savings, receiving an inheritance or
some other large sum of money just falls into your lap, this is a great opportunity to boost
your net worth. Unfortunately, according to an Ohio State study, Americans save only about half
of their inheritances and as many as 40% of heirs spend the whole thing. If you receive a large
chunk of change, you might also want to spend some time with a financial planner. That said,
she or he won't work for cheap. If you're looking for a good free online retirement calculator,
we provide a link to my favorite one in the show notes. I do want to add a special tidbit for those
in the military. You actually have access to free financial counseling, and you'll get a reminder
about this benefit at certain touch points in your career, including when you maybe get a promotion
and a raise. Be sure to take advantage of that. I want to give a shout out to Daniel Kopp of
wise stewardship financial planning, a fellow in my master's degree program who alerted me to this
perk. So thank you, Daniel. And then one final financial planning point. Raise is a good time
to evaluate your insurance. I know, not a very exciting topic, but you get life insurance and
disability insurance to replace income you can no longer earn. The more your income grows,
the more you should consider whether you should have more insurance. The death benefit of a life
insurance policy you bought when your kids were born may no longer be enough 5, 10, or 15 years
later. Now, it might be because you've built up a net worth and your kids are older, you don't need
as much life insurance as you bought. But getting more insurance is not very expensive. According
to policygenius.com, a $250,000 10-year term policy for a healthy 35-year-old male is only
about $14 a month. And for a $500,000 policy, you'll pay just another $7 a month on top of that.
Well, as much fun as it is to pay more taxes and ponder life and disability insurance, bro,
have we come to the part of your advice where you tell people to treat themselves? Because I did
promise we would get to that part, the immediately fun part and not the thanking your past self in
the distant future part. Yes. And I do think this is important, even though we saved it to the end.
You should enjoy it. So we covered a bunch of responsible, boring stuff, but hopefully there's
enough left over to enjoy some of your rays or your windfall. Go out to eat, bump up your vacation
budget, replace that five-year-old phone, whatever is a worthwhile reward for you, you earned it.
As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about,
and The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against,
so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear.
I'm Chris Hill. Thanks for listening. We'll see you tomorrow.
Thank you.
