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Episode Date: June 14, 2013Apple unveils a new look. Google buys Waze. And Lululemon surprises investors. Our analysts discuss those stories and share three stocks on their radar. And CNBC media and entertainment reporter Julia... Boorstin talks about the future of television. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Chris Hill, and joining me in studio this week, for Motley Fool Income Investor, James
Early, for Motley Fool Hidden Gems, Andy Cross, and for Million Dollar Portfolio, Mr. Ron
Gross. Good to see you, gentlemen.
Good to see you, Chris.
We've got the latest from retail, media, technology, and more. Just in time for Father's Day,
we will share some of the best pearls of wisdom from Dad. And as always, we've got a few stocks
on our radar. But we begin with the big macro, volatility returning to the U.S. markets this
week. And much of the credit, or blame, going to overseas markets, specifically Japan. The
Nikkei index down around 15% from its highs in May.
James, really, what is going on here, and what does it mean for U.S. investors?
Chris, it's pretty interesting.
Japanese stocks were on fire, Chris, until kind of the end of May,
and now they've just been hammered down 23%, I want to say, since then.
There are basically two reasons being talked about,
and the first is kind of the funnier one, that U.S. interest rates have risen.
This better be funny.
That's hilarious, right?
U.S. interest rates are up, and so because of that,
traders and there's speculation that the U.S. might withdraw on its quantitative easing. So
somehow traders worldwide are pulling out of Japan, which is intriguing because it makes
Japan seem like a total accessory. I mean, as an example, this is an embarrassing story,
but in college, a bunch of friends and I said, well, you know what? The mullet is a haircut
that's not going to last forever. So we need to make some kind of video montage memorializing
this, but nobody's going to want to appear in the video just to have their mullet. So we need to ask
some kind of, like, serious question, like,
what do you feel about the UN's policy towards Bosnia?
And the person's answering, but the video is, like, focusing in on the haircut,
you know, and just recording that.
So it's kind of the same thing here.
For those listeners that have hung with us through that story.
Through that story.
I have, I have.
Replay the tape.
It's very awkward.
But basically the idea is that people aren't taking Japan seriously for its own sake.
It's just some accessory trade.
The other more serious reason could be that the Bank of Japan had a meeting in June.
it did not add more stimulus. And so the market could be just saying, wait, we've heard all this
talk from Abe, but he's not actually backing it up. Ron, to the point about the quantitative
easing, it does seem like there is just this hair-trigger reaction amongst some of the big
institutional bond traders to just the notion of any kind of slight pullback, as though all of a
sudden the money supply from the Fed is just going to be turned off completely. Right. Well, I don't
have any interesting anecdotes to follow, but I will be ...
That's okay.
Yeah, you know, everyone is so hyper-reactive, I think I can almost promise that any tapering
of the easing program will be gradual. If we're sitting here months from now and we
say Bernanke has ripped the Band-Aid off and we went from $85 billion in easing to zero,
I will ...
Shave your head? What will you do?
I don't know. We'll come to that. But it's not going to happen. It's going to be gradual.
Are they going to time it perfectly? Are they going to bring in a soft landing? I don't
know that. But it's not going to be this crazy reactive thing. The markets are only off in
the U.S. 3% from their high. We're still up 16% for the year. That's an amazing year.
So, I think everyone needs to just relax.
And stocks are still, here in the U.S., reasonably priced, and the alternatives still are just
not attractive. So, stocks for the long term, if you're looking at three, five years plus,
stocks are the way to go.
Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference was held this week, and a couple of the big
headlines coming out of it, Ron. The complete redesign of the iOS 7 interface, and confirmation
of what had been the worst-kept secret in the business world, which is iTunes Radio,
the whole iRadio. What did you make of the conference?
Yeah, I think there were some really interesting things that came out of the conference
that will set Apple up well for the long-term. Now, that is not what hedge funds want to
hear, that is not what short-term investors want to hear. I almost kind of get sick of
apologizing for Apple, because we live in this kind of day and age where you get up
in front of an audience and you're dressed kind of cool and you have great videos and
you've got to make a big splash with the next big thing. It doesn't always happen that way.
But Apple continues to really innovate. These new software, the iOS 7, the Mavericks for
the Mac, these are very strong pieces of technology that will set them up for the future, so when
they do announce the Apple TV, or they do announce the next iPad, or the watch, or whatever
it is, these things will be very robust. So, I'm fine as a long-term investor with what
they're doing, but I could see how the street would be a little bit blasé.
I like that they also took just a little bit of a shot at Google in the fact that Siri
is now using Microsoft's search engine Bing as the default for search results. A little
bit of a shot across at Google there?
Yeah, they take shots at each other, I think. It's part of the game. But Sirius
is one of the things that are going to be improved. The whole app's kind of structure
is going to be revamped to make it easier and more user-friendly. It's pretty user-friendly
as it is, but they're going to even improve it there. So, there's a lot of good things
coming. Andy, what do you make of the iRadio?
Because there are people very quick to say, oh, this is going to kill Pandora. No, Pandora
not really going anywhere. Shares weren't devastated when the news came out earlier
in the week confirming iRadio. Yeah, I think that's actually pretty interesting,
Chris, because I think a few years ago, with Apple's power, it probably would have crushed
the stock of Pandora, and it didn't. So, I think people are saying, hey, this is a very
competitive space. Pandora is an attractive offering. The interesting news with Pandora
this week is they actually bought a radio station. Yes, a tiny station in South Dakota.
South Dakota, Rapid City, South Dakota, population 7,000, less than one percent, one-tenth of one percent of Pandora's entire active user base of 70 million.
And they did this to hopefully get preferential pricing on the fees that they have to pay for composers and the artists.
Now, there are lawsuits going back and forth on this, so we'll have to wait to see how that works out.
Very competitive space, a lot of changes going on in this marketplace, and obviously the lawsuits for the rates that they have to pay and what the composers and the artists want to earn has been going on for many years.
But this is just another offering from Apple to help widen its ecosystem.
And buying a radio station like that doesn't sound like any kind of technicality on Pandora's part.
Not at all.
Oh, no, no.
7,000 people.
Well, that's exactly what it is.
We love Rapid City, by the way.
Sticking with technology, also this week was the National Cable Show.
And Andy, you and I were talking earlier, Comcast really is attempting to rebrand itself.
Brian Roberts, the CEO there, coming out and talking about how they're a technology company,
they're an innovation company.
As a longtime Comcast subscriber, I just think of them as my cable company.
But it sounds like they may actually have cause for them.
Yeah, it's like, hey, Comcast, welcome to 2007.
Yeah.
Great.
This actually is a very cool device, and it does bring them up to speed and to compete with the likes of Netflix and Apple, their X2 product, which is their cloud-based offering, far superior than what they have now.
So I think this is a very good move for mostly subscribers, the 22 million subscribers of Comcast, of which Chris, you, I, and I am, and maybe the other guys are as well.
So this is an interesting development, and Comcast is certainly not your father's cable company.
how this plays out and what it means for Comcast, the business, and the stock
will continue to be able to generate more and more subscribers and more and more ad fees.
That's the important part that Comcast shareholders have to watch.
Last month, Facebook was on the verge of buying Waze for $1 billion.
Waze is the maps and traffic data service that is based in Israel.
This week, Google confirmed that it's actually buying Waze for somewhere north of $1 billion.
First and foremost, Andy, do you think this is a good move by Google?
It is, and the more I read about it, the more I like this deal.
I mean, Google has $50 billion of cash on its balance sheet,
so it's looking for ways to broaden out its offerings.
But this is a great pairing with a very great competitive edge
that Google has in their mapping software.
But what it really does is not so much about the old saying,
not where you've been, but where you're going.
That's really what they're looking at this for ways,
because they're looking, I think, to broaden out beyond just traffic and mapping software
to really, however, wherever we carry our phones and our mobile application,
because mapping is just integral to what we do these days,
and it's a key component to the mobile strategy,
and it will hopefully allow Google to broaden out its offerings
and continue to do what it does so well, which is search and advertising.
That's an important part to this deal.
Yeah, that's actually what I wanted to get at.
I think there's so many neat new technologies coming out that we're all going to benefit
from in so many ways, and it's so exciting, but so many of them are advertising-based.
I'm just getting so fatigued about how many things can be supported by advertising. It
makes sense, I think, if Google buys Waze and then they can put it on the ad platform
of Google. But as standalone businesses, all these things, there's just not really enough
advertising dollars to go around. Maybe we should all be willing to pay a little bit
for some of these great technologies that are coming our way, and kind of change the
business model of some of these companies.
O' Would you pay for Waze? Would you volunteer?
It certainly depends on the price point, but something that would change my life
in that I commute quite a bit, and sure I would.
O' But this is also interesting to me. It's beyond just your car. This is like you're
carrying your iPhone with you, and the way that I think they may be able to integrate
this into the Google ecosystem with the Waze member base, and as people get more and more
used to community-driven intelligence and having information on where you're going,
whether it's your shopping mall or the golf course or the airport, outside of your car,
when you're just walking around. There's some interesting, compelling opportunities for Google
there. Why do you guys think that Apple didn't step up and buy Waze, particularly in the wake
of last year with the iPhone 5 and the debacle that was Apple Maps? I know that Apple does not
have the track record, and by that I mean the taste for acquisitions that Google has,
But it really seems like Waze would have just been perfect for Apple.
And they've got the cash.
I'll be the skeptic.
I think Apple is being more responsible here.
I think Google and Facebook have cash looking to deploy mode.
Apple's a little bit more mature now.
You know, I've got to say, Apple's really grown up as a company.
I like Tim Cook a lot more than I thought I would.
He certainly knows Steve Jobs as a pitchman.
But financial, this is one of the reasons I recommended an income investor.
He's really shown a lot of maturity in his capital usage and structure.
So I think that's the reason. There's just no reason to pay $1.3 billion for a fuzzy payoff, in my view.
Coming up, if you're a fan of yoga pants, have we got a job for you.
This is Motley Fool Money.
Welcome back to Motley Fool Money.
Chris Hill here in studio with James Hurley, Andy Cross, and Ron Gross.
Lululemon Athletica's first quarter earnings came in better than expected this week.
But the bigger news is that CEO Christine Day resigned, saying it is the right time for a change.
And James, apparently investors disagree with that because shares of Lululemon down around 15% just in the wake of her resignation.
And when you look at her track record over the last five years and how strong a leader she's been, maybe not that big a surprise.
Yeah, the stock is up almost 400%, Chris, in the past five years.
It's been phenomenal.
In a sense, it's probably not a bad time for her to go.
If you really believe, like I do, this thing could be a passing fad,
it's very hard to make a brand like this last for a long time.
Remember tracksuits, you know, in the 80s?
Sure.
You know, and we have, you and I were talking before the show,
you've got Nike, you've got Under Armour, probably Patagonia.
There are a lot of other companies that can make these yoga pants and make them cool.
So I think it's not a bad time for her to go.
I do think there was probably some pressure on her.
a lot of times people can view the CEO almost like a football coach, a tool to juice the stock price.
And when the stock price looks like it's going to languish for a little bit or there's a problem,
they try to replace. And maybe that's what's going on here, but I wouldn't want to be the
incoming CEO. That's my bottom line. No, definitely. Definitely some big
shoes to fill there. And some people pointing to the recent debacle with the see-through pants
and saying, well, you know what, maybe she was pushed out the door, which leads me to this
question. There are a lot of companies you guys follow, there are a lot of CEOs. We place
a premium on really strong management here at The Motley Fool. And so, I'm just curious,
let's just go down the line, who is a CEO that you trust the most? Who is a CEO that
if they make mistakes, because I think sometimes investors unfairly expect just perfection
from CEOs, and I think there's a difference between good, strong leadership and perfection.
And Ron, just with you in mind, I'm removing Warren Buffett from the equation.
You can't pick Warren Buffett as the CEO you trust the most.
But who do you got?
That's fair.
You know, I really respect Kip Tindall of the Container Stores.
Now, that's a private company, but very recently it's been rumored that they're going to go public.
And if so, that would be a stock that is on my radar in a big way.
Mr. Tindall, Kip, if you will, is a big proponent of conscious capitalism.
him. He treats his employees with utter respect, and he believes that will accrue to customers
and then shareholders. And it's a great company to work in. He's a really great CEO.
He's a low-key guy. He came in here to talk one time. That was cool. Not a peppy guy,
but he's very honest.
Very soft-spoken.
Have you been to a container store before?
Yes, actually quite recently.
Really?
Yeah, it was very nice. And the employees really do seem very happy to work there.
James, what about you?
I will go with the CEO of a company called Buckle, which is a Nebraska-based jeans retailer
that sells mostly in the Midwest. A lot of these customers have money from fracking in the booming
economy there. So the company's doing well. This guy's name is Daniel Hirschfeld. He's the
founder's son. He started as a sales clerk. He owns 34%. And I like him because he's one of the
few non-idiotic CEOs in retail. I mean, it's so easy to be an idiotic CEO in the retail business
because you have success and you want to expand, expand, and overexpand. And that's what kills
many, many retailers. But these guys have been disciplined. They've restrained their growth.
They've paid a nice dividend, and I really respect that. It's very hard to show that kind of restraint.
Well, and as we were just talking with Lululemon, it's such a tough game.
Retail, it's not like a McDonald's or something like that, or one of these large businesses that if you're the CEO,
yes, you need to perform well, but there is an element to the underlying business which essentially runs itself.
Yoga pants, retail, particularly like teen fashion retail, that is a nightmare business I wouldn't want any part of.
Andy, what about you?
Jeff Bezos from Amazon.
He revolutionized the way that we shop.
And the way that he set out from the very beginning, his very first annual report, his letter to shareholders, he wrote a letter.
And in there, he called a section out called, it's all about the long term.
And Jeff is legendary for focusing on the long term and making sure his investors and his board members know that when you join Amazon, I am investing for the long term.
I'm not focused on the short term.
And he continues to attach that letter to every letter he has written since for Amazon.com.
So I think he's just a really great leader and done such amazing things for business, and he's the one I would tag.
And a great example of a guy who has made some missteps over his tenure, but the good far outweighs the bad.
Absolutely.
Father's Day weekend, and we've just got a couple minutes left, and I was just curious.
First of all, happy Father's Day.
And to you. We're all fathers in the room here. Best advice you ever got from your dad or a
grandfather or a father figure? It could be financial advice. It could be life advice.
What do you got, Ron? I got two. Don't spend more than you make.
That's always good advice. Don't bunt on two strikes.
Don't bunt on two strikes. My dad was my baseball coach for
many years growing up, taught me the game. And that's the one that sticks out.
Have you passed that on to your son? I was his coach for quite some time as well.
Did you actually follow that advice?
I did, sure.
Okay.
Yeah.
James, what about you?
It's sort of simple, but my dad said, never become a lawn freak.
And that's sort of like-
A lawn freak?
A lawn freak.
You know these people who are always out, they're fertilizing their lawn, and they're
spraying crap all over it, and the guy's coming with all his chemicals.
I mean, my dad has a nice lawn now, but it's sort of like a lesson in priorities, I guess.
I thought he was talking like flamingos, and don't be a person who puts flamingos in zones.
Oh, those are even worse.
Or the inflatables.
Yeah, the inflatables.
The inflatables are just criminal.
Santa Claus is big Santa Claus.
Yeah, I want to go with a BB gun and shoot those things.
Wow.
Have you done that?
I'm thinking about it.
I think it would just make a hole, and it would just cause further energy usage, which wouldn't help.
Totally not.
Andy, what about you?
Reinvest your dividends.
And for the most part, I've stuck with that.
My dad was a big believer in dividends.
And as I know, James and I have talked many times, reinvesting your dividends is a really magic way to compound your investing returns over time.
That's great.
But the one financial lesson I've tried to pass on to my kids is just understanding that
money is a finite thing, which I think is something that even my seven-year-old understands,
where it's just like, no, no, no, you spent your money, and that's the thing you bought,
and now the money's gone.
O' There's no money tree in your backyard?
There is no money tree in the backyard. But for me, my dad, the best advice I got
from him in terms of money was, he taught me at a pretty young age the whole concept
of being cheap. Not being thrifty, but being cheap. And making the distinction between
being thrifty, saving your money, those are all good things. But what you never want to
be in life is someone who is cheap. And that's just a lesson that has stuck with me for a
very long time. Good stuff.
Which leads to my other thought, which is, I think if everyone were forced to work
in the service industry for just a couple of months every year, the world would be a
better place. There you go.
All right. Ron Gross, James Early, Andy Cross. Guys, we'll see you later in the show.
Up next, CNBC's media and entertainment reporter, Julia Boorstin, on the future of movies and television.
Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill.
It's summertime, the time of blockbuster movies, and the television landscape is constantly changing.
So here to help us make sense of it all is CNBC's media and entertainment reporter, Julia Boorstin.
Julia, thanks for being here.
My pleasure.
Let's start with the movie industry, because you just moderated a panel discussion at USC
with a couple of promising young up-and-comers in the film industry by the name of Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.
And I have to say, I was somewhat surprised by the headline comments coming out of the panel where these guys basically say the film industry is on the verge of imploding, that a combination of big budget features flopping at some point in the future, that combined with the rise of video on demand is going to lead us to a world where, and these are their words, not mine, you're going to have fewer theaters.
They'll be bigger, but going to the movies will, in the not-too-distant future, essentially be akin to going to a Broadway show.
It'll cost $100, $150, that sort of thing.
Well, that's what George Lucas said.
Steven Spielberg had a little bit of a different perspective.
He said that maybe we'd be in a world where to go see Iron Man, it would cost $25, and then to go see Lincoln, it would cost $7.
But I think that you make it sound so grim, but I think in reality they were much more bullish than the headlines indicated.
You know, what Spielberg said is he thinks that we will see some sort of implosion of the industry as we know it,
because there is such a focus now on these big budget, tenfold movies like The Iron Man and Superman, which is, of course, opening this weekend.
But what he said is that after that, the market's going to look like, you know, he compared it to what happened to the stock market in 2008.
there was a crash. But then from there on up, it went really well. And he said the markets of the
industry is going to improve just like the stock market improved. And it's in a way a great time
to be investing, if you will, in this business by creating content because he thinks it's just
going up from here. So I don't think the tone was entirely negative. He said it's going to recover
from this implosion he projects because it's going to come out a totally different but still strong
model. One thing they were really optimistic about is the rise of video on demand and saying
now that we all have these big television screens in our living rooms, we'll be able to access
nearly all the content we could want, even sort of traditional movie film content from home the
same day a movie might be opening in the theaters. And it's just all going to be a video on demand
model. So I was just going to say, if this scenario plays out, do you think that the people
who are distributing the cable, the video distributors, do you think that they are in a
better position from a business standpoint than content providers, the studios, that sort of
thing? Well, they're sort of on the same team. The content providers are going to sell content
to the video-on-demand distributors, whether it's a Comcast or DirecTV or whoever, and then those
will be the people who sell directly to you. We could also see a world where I buy content
directly from Disney, and let's say I subscribe to a Disney app on my big television screen,
And it means I get unlimited access to Disney content for my kids.
So there are many different models here.
But I think that the reason why it's not a grim story is the fact that we all have these screens in our homes, which are getting bigger and bigger.
And there still will be a variety of content.
They're just saying the type of content that makes it to a movie theater and that stays in a movie theater is going to be, you know, only really the big budget stuff.
All right, let's move over to the television industry.
You just covered the National Cable Show, the big annual convention.
From your perspective, what was the big headline coming out of the event?
Well, I think looming in the background of this show was this fear of cord cutting.
Here you have these giants, Time Warner Cable, Comcast, Cox Communications,
and then you have the content companies, Discovery, Viacom.
They all make money from that monthly cable bill.
And that monthly cable bill is getting so expensive, there are a lot of concerns that people are going to cut the cord
or that the new generation of consumers is never going to pay for it, ever.
So they're trying to figure out how to deal with it.
And I think it's interesting you're seeing sort of two different strategies.
You have the cable carriers like Comcast unveiling really cool new technologies to give the consumers added value.
Comcast unveiled a new user interface called X2.
And it's really personalized and customized and sleek, and it looks great, and it's sort of an intuitive and smart system.
And they basically say, we're giving you all these extra bells and whistles with the idea that it's going to be so worthwhile to pay your monthly bill, you will never think about canceling it.
And then you have the content companies.
Some of them, like ESPN, are locking people into that subscription system by saying you can only access ESPN content,
And we will give you a lot of ESPN content in your mobile devices if you log in and show that you are a subscriber to either cable or satellite TV.
So they're sort of making sure that they give their subscribers a lot of content, but they have to keep paying.
And then you have a company like Discovery, which is increasingly offering more and more content online for free, sort of hedging their bets in case people do start to cut the cord.
Along with the whole notion of cord cutting up on Capitol Hill, there's talk of, once again, of the whole a la carte possibilities in the world of cable.
And Senator John McCain, for going on 20 years now, has been pushing this legislation to potentially allow consumers to buy or subscribe to individual channels.
What do you think of that?
Was there talk of that at the National Cable Show?
Because it seems like, on the one hand, if you're an ESPN, maybe for all the money you
make through the traditional system, you could make even more money if you were just selling
direct to consumers.
On the other hand, maybe if you're ESPN, you're pretty comfortable with the model so far.
Well, also, if you're ESPN, you're owned by Disney, and Disney sells a whole bunch of
channels bundled together to these companies.
They want to make sure the bundle isn't broken up.
I think it's an interesting idea,
but the fact that McCain has been pushing this concept for so long
means that people aren't really afraid of it happening.
And a lot of the folks I talked to at the cable show,
including Philippe Doman, the CEO of ICOM,
said, look, he's tried this before, it didn't work,
and we don't think it's going to work this time.
So I think it would be, in a lot of ways, great for consumers.
There's also a lot of talk about how maintaining that bundle
ends up giving consumers more options
because it allows them to maintain some of the smaller niche channels that they couldn't afford to keep producing
if it was up to just how many people subscribe just to that channel.
You're listening to Motley Fool Money, talking with Julia Boorstin, media and entertainment reporter for CNBC.
At the conference, Brian Roberts, the CEO of Comcast, really played up his idea that Comcast is not really a traditional cable company.
they're a technology company, an innovation company. Personally, as a longtime Comcast
subscriber, I don't necessarily see it that way, but he's the CEO, so he gets to make that claim.
But what role do you think Comcast and other cable operators are going to play in really shaping
the future of television? Well, I think the future of television is going to be, to a large extent,
streamed over the internet. Look at Netflix. Look at Hulu. Look at all these video-on-demand
tools. I mean, if you talk about the future, it's all about giving consumers what they want,
when they want it, where they want it. That means it's on demand over the internet and not at a set
time when your cable provider or your local news network decides to show you something.
So I think we have to remember that Comcast, though it's a cable company, it also sells
broadband. And it's increasingly making more and more and more of its money from selling
internet access. And that is where a lot of things are shifting. And I think we can expect
these companies to play a larger role in making it easier for people to switch between internet
video and traditional video and to sort of realize that you don't care if something's coming on
demand or if it's live on television. You just want to be able to find it easily. And that's
what Comcast is going to try to make it easier to do. So as television increasingly shifts
to the internet, how are companies like Netflix and Amazon viewed within the cable industry? Are
they viewed as competitors, as potential or future partners? Well, I would call them frenemies.
I mean, that's a term that's been used a lot in the media business over the past
decade. But I really do think they're frenemies because on one hand, Comcast wants you to keep
paying your cable bill. And if all you cared about was Netflix, you wouldn't pay your cable bill.
But they understand that in order to access Netflix, you need to pay for broadband.
And you're going to be streaming a lot of Netflix on broadband thanks to their high-speed Internet access.
So they understand they have to work together, but a company like Comcast has its own offering called StreamPix,
which is sort of an alternative to Netflix with the idea that if you're a Comcast subscriber,
You could add on this sort of digital streaming option and not necessarily have to get Netflix.
But I think the reality is, if you're a Comcast or Timer cable, you understand that Netflix and Amazon and Hulu are not going away.
And the more they invest in original content, the more consumers are going to want to access them.
They just want to make sure that they don't give up their cable bill as a result of that.
One thing that we've seen specifically with both Netflix and Amazon with respect to video is how
each company is dealing with the rising cost of content, and it is rising. And so, which companies
do you think are really in the best position to deal with that? Because on the one hand,
even though they're not really involved in the same way that Netflix and Amazon are,
I look at a company like Apple with its massive pile of cash and think, gosh, if at any point
they wanted to jump into this, they could. Yes, absolutely. I mean, I think that obviously
when you're talking about buying content rights or licensing original content or paying to create
new content, what you really need is a lot of money. And that's why when we're talking about
Hulu, which is up for sale, whoever buys Hulu is going to have to have a lot of cash on hand
to invest in original content year after year. If you look at Netflix and Amazon, Amazon has
really stepped up its game in the original content space. They have this unlimited streaming
offer to their subscribers of Amazon Prime. Amazon's advantage is that it has really deep
pockets because it's Amazon. Netflix says it has plenty of cash on hand and it's continuing
to invest in originals. But as Amazon and Netflix battle over the rights to either new
content or existing content, the fact that Amazon does have such deep pockets could push
up the prices for Netflix. That doesn't mean Netflix can't pay, but Netflix is just going to
become more selective to make sure it's only paying for content that its consumers, its
subscribers really want. One final question on the television front, and particular about the
National Cable Show. Did anything really surprise you at the show? And by that, I mean, it could be
a small upstart company with a new gadget that maybe has the potential to be big, or just a
comment that an executive made to you. I'm always curious to the extent because so many of these
events, and rightfully so, so many of these events are very carefully staged. So I'm just curious if
anything surprised you with the show. Well, the National Cable Show was carefully staged and all
the big companies had a major presence. But what really struck me as different this year is this
acknowledgement that cord cutting really is a problem that they have to watch out for. And I
spoke to Pat Esser, who's the president of Cox Communications, and he was very upfront. He said,
yes, cord cutting is real and we're trying to deal with it. And it was this kind of frank
acknowledgement of a shift in consumer behavior and a shift in their strategy as they try to
prevent against this potentially really dangerous issue. Moving off of movies and television,
one thing that got announced earlier in the week, I've been referring to it as the worst
kept secret in business, is that Apple finally came out with their iRadio, their music streaming
service. And I'm just curious, since Pandora is also a company that you have in your purview,
what you make of Apple's announcement and to what extent it's a threat to a company like Pandora?
Well, I have been reporting on the pending launch of Apple's iRadio for so long now that it really
was no surprise when it finally ended up happening. And I think that every time there was a report
about iRadio, Pandora's stock would tumble. And over the past six months or so, there have been
a number of times Pandora's stock has just fallen dramatically on concerns about the launch of this
mysterious iRadio. But I think it's really interesting that over the past couple of days,
Pandora's stock has been just fine. I mean, on Monday, the day that Apple announced its iTunes
radio, Pandora's stock went up. And I think what that indicates is that Apple's iTunes radio really
seems like yet another player in the digital radio space. And it's not necessarily going to
replace Pandora. Pandora has a lot of fans out there. They have massive user base. And Apple's
going to make a play. We'll see how it works. But it's not one or the other. And the whole thing
about this radio service is that it's contingent on advertising. And Apple doesn't necessarily have
the best track record when it comes to advertising. It's just not an area where it invests a lot of
a lot of money or time. And now it's going to need to go out there and sell ads to support iRadio.
So I'll be curious to try it out, and I'll be curious to see how it works. But I think it was
such a long time in coming that it just didn't kill the competitor's stock.
We'll wrap up with a round of Buy, Sell, or Hold. As best I could tell, neither Steven Spielberg
nor George Lucas would answer the question when you put it to them. So I want your best guess here.
Buy, sell, or hold another Indiana Jones movie in the next five years.
I'll be bullish on this one.
I'll say buy.
I think they didn't rule it out.
And there's so much fan excitement about this property.
I myself would love to see another Indiana Jones.
So I'll be optimistic here.
Hopeful.
I hope it's a buy situation.
I hope they can pull it off.
Her cable network has had a rough go of it lately.
Buy, sell, or hold own the Oprah Winfrey network.
Well, I interviewed David Zaslav, the CEO of Discovery, which co-owns OWN with Oprah Winfrey,
and he said the channel, the network's going to become profitable.
He said Tyler Perry's been working out great.
So based on his comments, I'd say buy.
Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk has more than a passing interest in space travel,
and he says we need to start considering living on other planets or risk going extinct.
So buy, sell, or hold a colony on Mars in the next 20 years.
I heard Elon Musk speak at the D11 conference a couple weeks ago, and I found him pretty compelling.
I don't know about the next 20 years, but I tend to believe his enthusiasm for space travel, so I would say Hold.
And finally, he was the first person on Twitter to have 40 million followers, but not everyone is a fan.
Buy, sell, or hold Justin Bieber.
He's held on to his stardom for a lot longer than some of these guys,
and I think that his presence on Twitter
and Facebook for that matter
actually probably helped his longevity
I'm not personally a fan
I'm not personally a believer
told as told
you know what
if you're interested in the business
of entertainment and media
the person you need to be following on Twitter
is Julia Borsten
you can also catch her on CNBC
Julia thanks so much for being here
my pleasure
Coming up, we'll give you an inside look at the stocks on our radar.
This is Motley Fool Money.
As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about,
and The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against,
so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear.
I'm Chris Hill. Joining me in studio once again, Ron Gross, James Early, and Andy Cross.
Guys, it's that time once again, time to wrap up with the stocks that are on our radar.
You're up first, Ron. What do you got this week?
I got a radar stock. Not a recommendation yet, but it's FedEx, ticker symbol FDX.
I've heard of this company.
Yes, I'm glad. They report next week, and I'm primarily interested to hear from
them because they are a bellwether in mind about economic activity, not just here, but
globally as well. Specifically to them, I do want to hear about their global expansion,
how they're doing overseas. I think listening to their earnings report will inform me quite
a bit about where we're going in the future. Ticker, once again?
FDX. James, what do you got?
Like Ron, this is a stock I'm watching. It's not a recommendation. Cracker Barrel,
the ticker is CBRL. This is the kind of restaurant that I personally would not eat at,
which means it's probably a very good stock in terms of popularity. This has just crushed the
market over its time being traded. It jacked up its yield, now pays 3.1%, brings it into my
territory, still doing 20% year-over-year earnings growth. A guy named-
Sardar Beglari?
Beglari, yeah. He believes the management has overstated the returns on capital of the new
stores, but either way, they're making a lot of earnings, and they've got some great numbers.
Two quick questions. Cracker Barrel, you go to their website. Among the things that they're
really focusing on pushing are furniture and music. What is that about? Is that a big economic
driver for them? I do not know, Chris. I know they're expanding a lot of ways. They're trying
to bring their Cracker Barrel brand into supermarkets also. And they've gotten a lawsuit
with Kraft who thinks that Kraft's Cracker Barrel cheese will be confused with the other Cracker
Barrel. So they're doing tests. So yeah, they're just trying to spread out as much as they can.
We'll see what sticks. They sound like music too, I think. Yeah, music. And second question,
Do you just feel even greater inner turmoil at yet another company that is totally at
odds with your healthy lifestyle?
Yeah, I feel so irresponsible just giving these guys publicity and recommending them.
I look at the numbers and I see one thing.
But yeah, I mean, it's certainly one thing America could use less of.
All right, Andy Cross, we've got about a minute left.
What's on your radar?
Ulta Salon.
Ulta had a great week this week.
They reported their earnings that were really quite good with revenue growth north of 25%
and comp sales almost 7%.
But this is a recommendation of ours in Stock Advisor, and I like the company very much.
We have it on hold, actually, because their CEO resigned a few months ago, and they have not yet given out news on who will replace him.
Really?
Yeah.
So that's why we put it on hold, because we really love to know who's going to lead our company, obviously, and great CEOs, as we talked about earlier in the show.
So, I'm watching that stock to see if I hear news from them on their CEO.
It's a great company with great growth prospects.
We'll go back on my buy list.
And the ticker?
ULTA.
All right. Andy Cross, James Hurley, Ron Gross.
Guys, thanks for being here.
Happy Father's Day.
Thanks, Chris.
That does it for this edition of Motley Fool Money.
Our engineer is Steve Broido.
Our producer is Matt Greer.
I'm Chris Hill.
Thanks for listening.
We'll see you next week.
