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Episode Date: August 4, 2017Apple shines. Take Two Interactive scores. Teva Pharmaceutical gets crushed. And Yelp surprises Wall Street while Under Armour stumbles. Plus, veteran auto industry journalist Paul Lienert talks about... the mood in Detroit and shares a surprising prediction about self-driving cars. Thanks to Bombfell for supporting The Motley Fool. Get $25 off you first purchase at http://bombfell.com/fool . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm Chris Hill, and joining me in studio this week
from Million Dollar Portfolio, Jason Moser,
from Supernova, David Kretzmann,
and from Total Income, Ron Gross.
Good to see you, as always, gentlemen.
Hey, Chris.
We've got the latest earnings on healthcare,
restaurants, retail, and more.
We will head to Detroit to check in
with the automotive industry.
And as always, we'll give you an inside look
at the stocks on our radar.
but we begin with the biggest company in the public market. Apple's third quarter revenue
came in north of $45 billion. I know they're all about the iPhone, David, but Apple's doing
a good job of growing that services division. David Gardner. Yeah, services grew 22% to
a record $7.3 billion for the quarter, but this really is still the iPhone story. They
sold 41 million iPhones this quarter. The iPad also is finally making a comeback. It
was up 15% this quarter. They launched the iPhone, obviously, 10 years ago, around the
anniversary year, and they've sold a cumulative 1.2 billion iPhones over that time. So, that
installed base just continues to grow. They did see some currency headwinds in Europe
and China, but I think, like you mentioned, Chris, the bright spot really is that services
business. The App Store brings in twice the revenue of Google Play. They have 185 million
paid subscribers across all their different services, like Music, iCloud, the App Store,
so a lot of things to like with that services segment.
Yeah, I like seeing the boost in iPad sales. For a long time, I've been wondering
how far can that really go, and I think ...
Remember Baba Booey said it was a bit of a stumble?
A bit of a stumble, yeah. Not quite a stumble, I would say. It's a multi-billion
dollar stumble, and we'd all kill to have one of those. But I do feel like ... the TV
is being redefined. Your TV is now either your phone or your tablet. Certainly, they've
been able to, I think, drive sales in delivering more variety in sizes of iPads, for example.
I think that's helped. The iPad Pro, I think, is playing into a demographic there that uses
it for professional services. But I still wonder if maybe the tablet, not the iPad in
particular, but just the tablet's best days are not behind us. It does seem like it's
sort of a race to the bottom. And Amazon has obviously gotten in there and introduced a
tremendous line of Kindle Fires and whatnot. Now they've got this Echo Show device, and
we know that Facebook is going to be trying to make some sort of visual-based device like
that as well. So, nice to see this quarter. I'm not sure how sustainable that is. Is it
going to really matter? No, because like David said, this still really is a phone company.
Remember the good old days of the iPhone subsidy, where you didn't feel like you were
paying an arm and a leg, and now they're talking about the iPhone 8 being $1,000 plus, perhaps.
Did they address that at all in the call?
Not a lot. Apple keeps the product launches close to the vest. It certainly
seems like, with all the rumors and buzz around that, sometime September or October, we will
see some new iPhone come out, whether it's called iPhone 8 or iPhone X. Remains to be
seen, but I would guess a new iPhone is on the way this year.
Well, it was interesting to see the headline, particularly around the services,
going into this quarterly report, and this seems odd to say about a company this big,
but there was a lot of talk on Wall Street of essentially just ignoring this quarter,
because I think there's a lot of excitement about what will come this fall and what will
be the next iteration of the iPhone. So, nice to know they can still surprise people.
The amazing thing about the services business is, right now, the quarterly revenue
of the services business is really on par with what Facebook was bringing in, in terms
of revenue each quarter last year. And that's still just a fraction of Apple's total revenue.
And it's still not an expensive stock, in my opinion. It still remains relatively
inexpensive compared to the rest of the market.
Teva Pharmaceuticals is the largest maker of generic drugs in the world, and this
week it got a lot smaller. Second quarter results were low, they cut their dividend
by 75%, and in just one week, Ron, Teva has lost one-third of its market cap.
I don't know where to begin. It's a perfect storm of badness. Nothing good coming here,
as you said. So, earnings fell short. They cut their guidance. They cut their dividend.
They announced they may breach debt covenants. Their debt is pretty large as a result of
an acquisition. They do not have a CEO. They're having trouble finding a CEO. They're losing
patent protection on their biggest branded drug, which is a Copa ... Yeah, you know how
to pronounce that, right? CopaZone?
No, I leave that to experts like you.
And there's an activist that is kind of saying they should be splitting the business into
two different divisions, one focused on generic, the other on specialty medicine. There's really
almost nothing going well here, and it's obviously reflected in the stock price.
Last half full guy here.
You know, the pricing environment in generics is tough right now. The competition is tough,
and they really can't get out of their own way. And without a strong CEO at the helm,
home. This is not going to turn anytime soon. As an investor, I would stay away. There's
too much uncertainty, even though the stock has been pretty much destroyed. They need
to get a really strong CEO there, and they're going to have to pay up, unfortunately, to
get that, because no one seems interested right now.
But given the headwinds, you have to agree that cutting that dividend, even though
it was a very large cut at 75%, that's got to be the right move, right? That's a prudent
play, because you can always push that thing back up once you get this thing turned around.
Yeah. While painful, if cutting the dividend is the right move, then cutting the dividend
is the right move. And especially if you have a lot of debt and cash flow problems,
you need to make that painful move. And you count on a strong management team,
of which they have no one at the helm right now, unfortunately, to make those tough
decisions, even if it's painful in the short term.
Shares of Under Armour hit a new low this week, a loss in the second quarter,
combined with lowered guidance, combined with the announcement of layoffs, and Under Armour's
stock has been cut in half in just one year's time, Jason.
Yes, it has not been a very good stretch here for Under Armour. It went from one quarter
just about a year ago, where it seemed like they could do no wrong, to literally a point
now where it seems like they can do no right. And I think at least, I'd like to believe,
we've hit this point where founder and CEO Kevin Plank has hit a point where perhaps
he recognizes that he needs help. I think he has gotten to a point where he's just a
little bit in over his head, maybe, at this point, because he's got to figure out a way
to take this business to the next level, to take that next step.
On the bright side, he does have an executive team in there with him now, a new CFO, a new
COO that can, I think, help make some more measured decisions, some deliberate growth,
without having to feel like you've got to make these big, splashy acquisitions and whatnot
to really keep in the headlines. Let's be clear, Under Armour to this point had it seemingly
pretty easy. Every quarter, it was just lobbing up 20%-plus revenue growth, and everybody
was loving it. It was the next Nike, and they could do no wrong. And now, they've run into
this buzzsaw where the top-line growth is slowing down, and they need to figure out
what to do to help get that back going again. The bright side, the international business
is performing very well. And that continues to be a source of excellent growth here in
the coming years. Direct-to-consumer grew 20% for the quarter. It's now 35% of total
revenues. The downside there, I think that they still haven't gotten out in front of
this Connected Fitness acquisition that they made a while back. I think we're going to
see a big write-down here by the end of the year, if not early next year, on that acquisition.
They continue to frame it like it gives them a lot of data for their customers and whatnot.
but they paid a lot of money for those apps that I don't think are really bearing the
fruit that they were hoping for. So, there's plenty of reason to be optimistic.
And just to frame it here for you, Coach, which we've been ragging on for about the
past five years, Coach is now double the market cap of Under Armour.
So, think about that for a second. That's how bad it really is for Under Armour and
how well Coach has really turned their business around. I think Under Armour holds a very
powerful brand and a very big market opportunity. I think that as long as Kevin Plank can keep
this executive team with him, there will be brighter days ahead, but it's going to take
a little while. Yeah, I think the one bright spot with
Under Armour going through these troubles is that they do have to become more disciplined
and focused on what they're really good at. I think bringing on new leadership in the
form of a new COO last month, that'll help Plank stay focused on what he does do good
at with the brand. But man, that Connected Fitness dilemma just really hurts right now.
When I was at CES in January, that was pretty much all Kevin Plank talked about in his keynote
presentation was how great these Connected Fitness apps were. But boy, yeah, I think
a write-down is coming. Well, and we were talking last year
about Nike and how they just decided to get out of the golf equipment business altogether.
And it wasn't like they were pouring money down a hole there over at Nike, and it wasn't
like they couldn't afford it, but they just decided, you know what, this isn't where we
want to focus our energy. And I'm wondering how quickly Under Armour may come to the same
realization where they say, you know what, we're in this one particular part of business
and it's not going as well as we want, and we just need to cut bait.
Yeah, and my hope is that they'll recognize that sooner rather than later. I feel
like Plank is bandied about that Connected Fitness line. It's lost all meaning. It's
like in Fletch when he says, it's all ball bearings. I mean, you're like, what does that
mean, even. So, you say connected fitness, but you're not connecting the dots on how
it monetizes. And I think the reason why they're not connecting those dots is because it's
clearly far more difficult than they thought it would be.
And they're suffering from brand identity. Are they performance? Are they connected?
Are they a full athleisure company? What are they now, and what are they focused on? And
I think they need to figure that out.
MercadoLibre's second quarter profits fell 18%, and the Wall Street Darling fell
out of favor, if only for one day. Shares of MercadoLibre down more than 10% on Friday,
although you back it out over the past year, David. It's had quite a run.
It's had a good year. It's had a good three, five, ten years. So, I don't think this is
anything to worry about too much. I mean, when you take a high-level look at the business,
things are still going really well. Items sold grew a record 41% for the quarter. Their
payment transactions through their payments platform, MercadoPago, grew 63%. Total users
on the platform up 21%, and almost 200 million users now. Revenue up 59%. Venezuela, though,
continues to be a sore thumb area for them. They had to do a write-off with their business
in Venezuela. This summer, the Venezuelan central bank instituted a new foreign exchange
mechanism, which devalued the currency by 73% compared to the U.S. dollar.
O'Reilly. That stings.
That stings a bit. So, MercadoLibre is taking a $25 million loss this quarter. The one bright
side there is that, you know, the more you write down the business, the smaller it gets. So in
general, things still going well. Their gross margin is seeing pressure as they roll out a
loyalty program and free shipping in Brazil and Mexico and a few other markets there. But
they have such a big market opportunity. I think those are wise investments.
Coming up, a reminder that good food does not always result in tasty earnings.
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Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser, David
Kretzmann, and Ron Gross. El Pollo Loco and Chewy's both serving second quarter results
up, but investors were not biting. Both stocks falling 8% this week. And Jason, in the case
of Chewy's, it is the lowered guidance that's hurting them.
Yeah, I think with both of these restaurants, really, the question is, how much can we expect
them to grow, and then is that really an attractive prospect for investors? When it comes to both
of them, my tendency is to say no. There's not really that much of an attractive growth
prospect there. With Chewy's, yep, they guided down. Comps were down 1%. Topline was up 7.5%.
But what that means is that revenue is coming from opening new stores. They still have a
very small store base. I think it's somewhere around 80. And they're only going to open
a handful every year. Now, the flip side, there are some pretty attractive unit economics
there. They said that in 2016, comp stores brought in around $4.6 million per store.
So, there are some attractive economics there. Again, I just don't know if there's the growth
that we'd be looking for. With Pollo Loco, it's a bigger footprint, somewhere in the
neighborhood of 500, just under 500 stores today, and they do franchise. Again, that
is a very competitive, quick-serve market where they're competing against the likes
of McDonald's, of Bojangles, of all the Yum! brand stores, Taco Bell, KFC, and whatnot.
So, that's a tricky one. I think Pollo Loco does differentiate in the products that they
offer, but again, I'm not sure how far they can spread their wings and grow that footprint,
so to speak. So, I don't know that, really, investors should be all that up for either
concept at this point. Shares of Texas Roadhouse flat this week,
despite better-than-expected results in the second quarter. CEO Kent Taylor saying on
the conference call, Ron, we're not doing delivery.
Interesting, right? It was.
So, he's saying, if most people are calling for delivery between 6 and 8 p.m., when their
kitchen is the busiest and fully utilized, it would actually be a bad decision to offer
up a poor experience by delivering people lukewarm food. And he welcomes the competition
to continue to do so, which makes a little bit of sense there. He said, if there are
companies out there that have kitchens that are not fully utilized, OK, that perhaps is
a good move. But for us, it's not necessary. And they continue to put up really good numbers.
They're carrying forward from Q1 right into Q2, especially in an environment where casual
dining segment is hurting. Texas Roadhouse and our man behind the glass favorite Olive
Garden are two that are kind of bucking the system, for the most part. Comp sales are
up 4%, diluted earnings per share up 11%. Margins got a little bit of pressure from
wage rate inflation, but that was offset by lower food costs, so not too bad there. And
they continue to grow, open new stores, open their Bubba 33 concept, as well as their Texas
Roadhouse concept, and they're doing a nice job.
Yeah, but they haven't opened a Bubba's 33 near us.
They have not. What's up with that?
Pizza, burgers, and beers. We're waiting.
On to video game stocks. Activision Blizzard's strong second quarter profits were
not enough to impress Wall Street, but Take-Two Interactive followed up a strong first quarter
report with raised guidance and shares of Take-Two up more than 10% this week, David.
Yeah, Take-Two really doing really well, and that's without any major game launches this year.
And Grand Theft Auto is really their hallmark franchise game. It was last launched four years
ago, and Grand Theft Auto Online had its best quarter ever this year. So, four years later,
still going on really strong. And a key metric to watch with Take-Two with a terrible name is
recurrent consumer spending, which is the things a player buys within a game after they buy the
actual game itself. And recurrent consumer spending was up 71% for the quarter and now
makes up 58% of total sales. That's very high margin revenue. And going over to Activision
Blizzard, I mean, the company grew earnings more than 80% this quarter, revenue grew by a third,
and they still have over 400 million monthly active users across their segments. And within
their Blizzard segment in particular, I think it'll be really interesting to see how this
Overwatch Global Professional Esports League goes. So, they sold seven franchises in cities
worldwide. The buying price was $20 million there, and that includes some owners like
Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Jeff Wilpin of the New York Mets. So, you're
bringing in some traditional sports into this esports category. It'll be interesting to
watch.
What is the name of that terrible metric again?
Recurrent consumer spending.
I have a solution here. It's really game addict spending. Gas. It's the gas metric.
I like it.
Travago's second quarter revenue rose more than 65%, but shares of the online hotel booking site taking a nosedive on Friday, Jason.
Yeah, really attractive top-line growth there. I think it didn't translate quite to the earnings that maybe the market was looking for.
Travago's an interesting business. I think it's worth a look.
But by the same token, you have to wonder, when it comes to this travel space, why is
it better to invest in something like a Trivago versus just something like an Expedia or a
Priceline, the big boys in the space, the OTAs? Because that's how Trivago is making
its money anyway, really, is coming from your OTAs at Expedia and Priceline.com. So, they're
outspending companies like TripAdvisor on marketing hand over fist, and that's working
for them right now. When they pull back on that, it'll be interesting to see how that
affects the business. But, they focus on doing one thing really well, and that's getting
you into a hotel room for a very reasonable price. As long as they continue to feed that
Metasearch engine, I think they'll continue to do OK.
The biggest winner on the New York Stock Exchange on Friday was Yelp. Yes, Yelp.
Second quarter profits were just that, actual profits. Wall Street was expecting a loss,
and shares of Yelp up nearly 30% in one day, Ron.
one day, but for the year, basically flat, just slightly up, maybe 3% for the year.
They've been struggling. It's a bit of a broken growth story in the sense that investors were
worried that the growth they had been putting up was slowing and competition was strong.
But this quarter, an asset sale, a stock buyback, better than expected earnings. In fact,
they had earnings, as you said, instead of a loss. They're selling their E24 food service
for double what they paid for it. They had double-digit increases in advertising and
transaction revenue. The board approved a $200 million share buyback. So, some life
out of Yelp, not dead yet. O' Do you use Yelp at all?
I do. I don't like it. I don't like the experience of TripAdvisor either, though.
So, I'm not a good guy to necessarily ask. O' Again, glass half-full.
Speaking of the glass, let's go to our man behind the glass, Steve Broido. Steve,
Are you a Yelp-er? Do you use it either for reviews or to post reviews of your own?
Yes, I do use it from time to time. It is helpful if you're driving around and you're
looking for something local that's good. It's great.
You're not looking at Yelp while you're driving, though, are you?
Definitely not.
You know, it's interesting you say that, because the mobile app is on 22% more devices than
a year ago, which is important for them. It's a big push. So, good to see those numbers
increasing, but not in the car. Be careful, folks.
All right. Ron Gross, Jason Moser, David Kretzmann. Guys, we'll see you a little bit
later in the show. Coming up, we are heading to the Motor City to take the pulse of the
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Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill. So much happening in the auto industry
this week, and that's why we turn to Paul Leinart, who has spent his career covering
the automotive industry, most recently with Thomson Reuters. He joins me now from Detroit.
Paul, always good to talk to you. Chris, thanks for having me back.
This week, this was one of those weeks where we were reminded of just how important the
automotive industry is in the United States. General Motors sales for the month of July
were down 15%. But in some ways, you could look at AutoNation, which is the largest dealership
group in America, and their latest quarterly results, which were pretty bad, to say the least.
And look at AutoNation stock, which is hitting a five-year low this week. I guess my first
question for you is, what is the mood right now in Detroit? Everybody sounds to me like they're
whistling past the graveyard. That is, they're trying to stay upbeat and look for the silver
lining. And we're hearing a lot of PR spin, but the numbers are the numbers.
So is there a silver lining in these numbers? Or is the silver lining simply for consumers
who might be looking for a deal on their next automotive purchase?
If you're an auto executive whose livelihood or compensation depends on putting up good numbers,
or if you're an investor, I would say no, not really good news. If you're a consumer,
absolutely, because there are some killer deals out there right now.
So let's go to one automotive stock that, for the moment anyway, is doing well, and that's Tesla.
They came out with their latest numbers, and they moved forward with the Model 3, which
has gotten, almost across the board, tremendous reviews. Is Tesla viewed
differently today than it was, say, a year or two ago?
Only in the sense that investors are even more upbeat and buoyant and optimistic, almost wildly
so. I would say as the numbers get progressively worse for Tesla, investors seem to be racing in
the opposite direction. And even Wall Street is divided. You have, seriously, the bulls and the
bears on Wall Street, and they are wide apart on their projections for Tesla shares.
Let's just say for the sake of argument that all of the claims that Elon Musk is making in terms of
production targets. And it seems like a goalpost that moves on a quarterly basis. But in some ways,
he's getting more aggressive with his numbers, not less. If he actually hits those,
what happens then with the Fords and the GMs of the world? Because it seems like if he actually
makes good on the production of these vehicles, and they really are rolling out 10,000 new vehicles
a week by the end of 2018, that seems like a tidal wave for what we think of as the big
three automakers.
Chris, I mean, no disrespect, but your question is moot to some extent in this sense.
Elon has missed so many targets that he himself has laid out that it's very difficult to take
his latest projections at face value.
For instance, a year ago, he flatly said, we're going to make 500,000 cars in 2018.
Two nights ago, he said, well, we're going to hit 10,000 cars a week by the end of 2018 or somewhere in 2018.
That's a far cry from building 500,000 cars in all of 2018.
That's just one instance of many.
So let's go to someone who's relatively new on the job then, and that's Jim Hackett.
He has been the CEO of Ford Motor for less than three months.
Is this a good time for someone new to be stepping into that job?
Or is, unfortunately for Mr. Hackett, has he picked the worst time to become the CEO of Ford Motor?
It's a great question.
I like Jim Hackett.
I've met him a few times and had the chance to talk to him.
I think he's well-regarded within Ford, and I think he's brought some new positive energy into that company.
But I'll tell you what, he reminds me of a conversation I had many years ago with Ben, young Bill Ford,
who is, I think, just coming back from Dearborn from an overseas assignment, maybe Switzerland or Venezuela.
And I'm paraphrasing now, but I asked Bill a similar question, is this a good or bad time?
And he said, it's a great time because the company has been doing so, not poorly, but hasn't been doing that well.
It'd be pretty hard for me to screw it up.
And if I don't, if I actually do better, people are going to think I'm a hero.
Now, Hackett probably is going to help turn that company around, but give him some time.
As you say, it's less than 100 days in.
Well, and as you indicated, you know, it seems like he has hit the ground running,
certainly with employees, because, and this is something that we've seen with other new CEOs
in other industries, particularly the food industry, where they come in and they begin
to lay out their plan. And you can have people within the industry argue whether or not that
plan has merit. But whatever else you can say about Jim Hackett, I don't think anyone can
criticize him for being unprepared. You know what? He was on the Ford Board of Directors,
and he spent the last year running Ford's future mobility business called Ford Smart Mobility. So
he knows the company, no question about that. He's not doing a couple things. He's not bringing in a
whole bunch of new executives, nor is he firing a lot of veteran executives there. He also
was taking his time. He said, I'm going to do a 100-day review of all the operations. So he's
looking at countries and regions where Ford's doing business, asking questions. Do we need to
be here? How deeply should we be here? How much should we invest? He's looking at their product
line. He's looking at their technologies. He's even looking at stuff that he is very familiar
with. For instance, Ford's move into autonomous vehicles and asking, are we going about this the
right way? Do we want to invest more? Do we want to invest less? How soon should we roll this stuff
out? So he is asking the right questions without, so far, stepping on too many toes.
One thing that we've seen so far in 2017, when you just go around the world in terms of automakers,
we've seen more automakers rolling out electric vehicles. Volvo did so recently, saying they're
going to have a bunch of new all electric models on the road by, I believe it's 2021. They're also
going to have some hybrids as well. But is this a situation where Europe is sort of the leading
edge in terms of electric vehicles? For all the attention that Tesla gets, when you look at
the proposed ban on gas engines, you know, gas powered cars in Europe, it's hard not to think
that Europe is actually the one leading here? I will tell you that from my vantage point in
Detroit, Europe has done lots of work on electric vehicles over the years, but so has the U.S.
I would say it's not Europe, but probably China that's in the vanguard right now,
partly because the central government in Beijing and local and regional governments have climbed
all over this for a bunch of reasons, particularly the pollution, which is so ridiculous in China.
China is actually going to force companies, including European and American companies,
who want to do business in China, they're going to force them to sell a certain number
of electric vehicles starting within the next year or two.
Europe's proposed bans in different countries on gasoline engines, that's out around 2040.
That's a long way away.
Where are we now with self-driving cars?
How much closer are we to them?
And what should we be watching for in the United States? Because we had a guest recently on Motley
Full Money who actually made the point that it's probably not going to be the United States that
is leading the way when it comes to self-driving cars. It's going to be somewhere in Europe,
probably a smaller country at that. But what should we be watching for next?
You know, Chris, I actually disagree on that. And I've been in a number of these vehicles,
talked to many, many automakers, suppliers, and even startups that are working on self-driving
cars. My guess is you're going to see some of the first ones on the road that have full
self-driving capability, at least within a specific area, what's called a geo-fenced area,
probably starting around 2020. And you know what? I think Tesla is probably going to be one of those
companies. I would not be surprised if General Motors is one of those companies.
Wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm sorry. The two candidates that you're laying out for self-driving cars in the United States are Tesla and General Motors?
I would say they may very well be in the forefront right now. Do not underestimate General Motors. Just as I would warn you, don't overestimate Tesla.
I don't overestimate Tesla, but I am looking at the most recent sales figures from General Motors, so forgive me if I do underestimate them.
They are. You know what? They're not in a good place right now. They're working hard on it,
but they have way too many cars sitting in dealer stocks. Even their trucks are starting to slow
down. So there's a lot to worry about if you're a General Motors executive these days.
All right, last question, and then I'll let you go because I know it's a busy week for you.
You said at the top, this is a good time to be buying a car because there are deals out there,
and all you have to do is look at the latest sales figures to recognize that.
If you were in the market for a new car, what would you be kicking the tires on?
Boy, your timing is perfect.
I just leased a new car about a month ago because my lease had expired on my old Hyundai Tucson.
I looked everywhere.
And I shopped deals.
I shopped leases versus buying.
And I wound up with a Chevrolet Trax.
What am I getting in the Chevrolet Trax that I'm not getting in another vehicle?
A heck of a good price. I look for a pretty much a basic vehicle. My wife and I drive
many new vehicles a year. She's on the North American Car of the Year jury. So
she is constantly rotating in and out of vehicles. So we see the best of them. We see the worst of
them. I was very pleased with the Trax because it's a huge level of standard equipment on a
car that starts out in the low 20s. Your wife is on the jury of the North American Car of the Year?
One of the few females on that jury, as I might add.
I mean, I'm not trying to pry into your marriage, Paul, but I'm assuming she has utter discretion
and she's not leaking you advance information that is not available to other people in the media.
There is a strict separation of church and state.
Her office is down the hall and she keeps the door closed.
Paul Leinert covers the auto industry for Thomson Reuters.
You can read his stuff.
You can follow him on Twitter.
If you want to know what's going on in the automotive industry, you should be doing both those things.
Paul, it's always good to talk to you.
It's a pleasure, Chris. Thank you.
Coming up, we'll dip into the Fool mailbag and give you an inside look at the stocks on our radar.
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Welcome back to Motley Fool Money.
Chris Hill here in studio once again with Jason Moser, David Kretzmann, and Ron Gross.
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Before we get to the stocks on our radar, a couple of quick stories. Earlier in the
week, Standards & Poor's announced that it was enforcing a ban on companies with dual-clash
share structures to join the S&P 500 index. And this is seen, Jason, very much as a shot
across the bow at Snap. Because before Snap went public, they put out an S-1 that said,
nobody gets any voting rights, period. Yeah, I'm sure in the executive suite,
they're probably looking around and thinking, hey, that's not fair. We're not the only ones.
And I think there's a point to that, for sure. But I think this was the straw that really broke
the camel's back. And I mean, they went into this IPO stating that, hey, this is the situation.
And if you want to be a shareholder, that's great, but you're going to have zero say-so.
And that typically runs counter to the notion of being a public company. It's not to say
there aren't other companies out there that don't have those similar share structures,
but I think that Snap could have gone about their business a little bit more diplomatically,
so to speak. And it seems like between Snap and Uber, Uber's not public yet, but these
two companies are just in a race to see who can step and poop more often. So far, it seems
like Snap's winning, but Uber's right on their tail.
I feel like for the S&P's decision to have a lot of sting, they should kick out
Google and Alphabet and Under Armour.
O' Good luck with that.
Probably not going to happen.
O' Are you going to hold your breath on that?
No, I don't think so.
I think they're going to have Wall Street up in arms.
O' Thank you to Jerry Villani of Cleveland, Ohio, for pointing out a story that
Dunkin' Brands is testing a new concept by opening a few new locations of Dunkin' Donuts,
but dropping the word donuts. So, these new locations will just be called Dunkin'.
How will people know what they sell?
That's, I think, what they're testing. Jerry writes, after seeing this story,
that they're considering shortening their name to just Duncan, and knowing other companies have
done this successfully in the past, such as Apple Computer, changing to just Apple,
I looked at my own portfolio to see what other companies might consider. Under Armour could go
to Armour, meaning it's not just underwear anymore. General Mills could just be General,
as in anything, and Johnson & Johnson could just be Johnson. I thought you guys might have some
fun coming up with some others. Real quick, around the table, Ron Gross, you got a suggestion?
Ron Gross. Lululemon Athletica. Could go to Lululemon, because Athletica doesn't
mean anything. Jason?
Hey, Dave & Buster's Entertainment. I mean, you take the entertainment off of there,
and now you've got Dave & Buster's Mortgage Banking, Dave & Buster's Arts and Crafts.
I mean, they could really do anything.
Could be a cartoon, also. I'm looking at Natural Grocers by Vitamin Cottage, I think.
Just pick one, Natural Grocers or Vitamin Cottage. I'd go with Natural Grocers.
Yeah, because you know who wants to go to the Vitamin Cottage?
Absolutely no one.
Well, that sounds horrible.
Steve Broido, behind the glass, you got a suggestion here?
Chubb Limited. You got to lose the limited. If you're going to be Chubb, you don't want
to be limited.
You just want the Chubb.
Let's get to the stocks on our radar, and we'll start with our man Ron Gross. What are
you looking at this week?
I'm speechless after that. A recent total income recommendation, Cedar Fair, ticker
symbol FUN, F-U-N. The country's third-largest amusement park operator. Very hard to replicate
those assets. Theme parks are basically local monopolies. They're solidly profitable, recurring
cash flow, 5% dividend yield for those people looking for income. They're able to raise
prices faster than inflation, and the return on investment looks really strong.
You've got to like it when they have pricing power.
Love pricing power. Steve Broido, question about Cedar Fair?
Any rides you won't go on. Truth be told, I am not a big
rollercoaster guy. It just freaks me out just a little too much.
So, I think it's most of them. Jason Moser, what are you looking at this
week? Sticking in line with the travel
discussion, TripAdvisor earnings are out next Tuesday. Ticker is TRIP. Very similar business
to Trivago. They do have this meta-search engine, which is supposed to get you into
a hotel for a good price. They try to take this business to another level with the instant
booking platform that has not delivered, I think, the results they were hoping for.
That said, I mean, the pessimism has really been on this company for the past year,
because results, the growth engine essentially stalled. Yet, when you look at the platform,
it's very engaging, users are growing, reviews are growing. It offers travelers a lot of value,
not only in hotels, but all sorts of different things that you may do wherever you're traveling
around the world. So, my hope is that we see maybe some green shoots here in these next couple
of quarters, and TripAdvisor can kind of get that growth engine started back again. If they can,
I think today's stock price is going to be seen as a pretty cheap one, but that's a big if at
this point. Steve Broido, question about TripAdvisor? Sure. Would hotels ever benefit
by advertising something where like, hey, skip TripAdvisor, call us directly?
Well, I think that's one of the big questions with TripAdvisor, with Expedia, Priceline,
and all of the others. I mean, instead of going through an OTA, why wouldn't you just go through
the hotel directly. Big hotel concepts like Marriott really taking advantage of that and
developing very robust loyalty programs.
O' David Kretschmann, what are you looking at this week?
I'm going with Chipotle Mexican Grill, ticker CMG. It's all about that queso. They're
rolling out queso in some markets in California and Colorado.
O' And coli-free since 2016?
Hey, listen, I had a burrito bowl last night. I'm still feeling alright.
Hey, me too. But they are looking to roll queso out nationally, possibly in September.
So I think that'll be the new menu item that will really bring people back into the stores.
Aquarian Management, that's the most requested item for the menu that isn't already on the menu.
So I think that'll help bring new people into the stores.
And I think they're definitely ready for more people to come into the stores,
especially as they roll out this digital strategy.
They have a new mobile app coming out later this year,
and they're taking the first steps to a loyalty program.
And they have that second line in the back of the stores to focus on those digital online orders.
Plus, the company has a strong balance sheet, $570 million in cash, no debt.
So, I think they can work through these issues.
Steve?
Has the market been unfair to Chipotle regarding food safety?
I mean, there's restaurants everywhere.
I'm sure people get sick pretty much everywhere.
Yeah, I mean, norovirus is relatively common in the U.S. and other restaurants.
But when your earnings are falling off a cliff and you just went through a major crisis like E. coli,
it makes sense for them to be under more of a microscope.
Steve, three stocks.
You got one you want to add to your watch list?
I think I might go with TripAdvisor.
All right.
I was hoping you and Ron were going to go to an amusement park together.
All right.
David Kretzmann, Jason Moser, Ron Gross.
Guys, thanks for being here.
Thank you.
That's going to do it for this week's edition of Motley Fool Money.
Our engineer is Steve Broido.
Our producer is Matt Greer.
I'm Chris Hill.
Thanks for listening.
We'll see you next week.
