Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - Show Me the Earnings!
Episode Date: July 28, 2023The earnings parade is on, and this quarter it pays to be in the black. (00:21) Matt Argersinger and Emliy Flippen discuss: - The Fed’s latest rate hike and why another seems in the cards. - Why ...earnings updates ended epic runs for Chipotle and Spotify. - How big tech’s cost cutting is going. (19:11) Bonus earnings coverage from Matt and Emily on Roku, Mastercard, Coca-Cola, and Live Nation. (31:31) Emily and Matt break down two stocks on their radar: BorgWarner and Invitation Homes. Stocks discussed: CMG, SPOT, META, GOOG, GOOGL, MSFT, ROKU, MA, KO, LYV Host: Dylan Lewis Guests: Matt Argersinger, Emily Flippen Engineer: Dan Boyd Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is Motley Fool Money. It's the Motley Fool Money radio show. I'm Dylan Lewis. Joining me
in studio, Motley Fool senior analysts Emily Flippen and Matt Argersinger. Great to have
you both here. Dylan, we've got a parade of quarterly updates from companies, stocks on
our radar, and the early themes of earnings season. But we're going to start with the Fed
and the big picture. This week, the U.S. Central Bank decided to increase rates a quarter of a
point, marking the 11th rate increase and bringing the baseline Fed funds rate to its highest point
in 22 years. Matt, something that I think we were kind of expecting and are now confirmed.
This is what we're working with. I think this was totally expected.
Maybe the most expected move by the Fed that we've had over the past, say, 15 or 16 months.
Yeah, 11 straight hike, or not straight hike, I should say. They did skip last month,
but brought the target range to $5.25, highest level in more than 22 years, by the way,
for the Fed funds rate. That was followed up on Friday, but we had more news about inflation
cooling. You had the core PCE, which is widely tracked, or at least by the Fed, number of
inflation. That rose 4.1% from a year ago. That was below estimates. And the lowest annual rate
since September 2021. By the way, the goods price component of that actually decreased 0.1%.
It's all happening for the Fed. It conjures up this image, an unfortunate one, actually.
including one of an aircraft carrier. But dare I say, mission accomplished?
It seems like they've been able to increase rates without massive spikes in unemployment,
without too much economic disruption. This is pulling something off that I think a lot of
people weren't sure they'd be able to do. Right. It's a monumental move, if you think
about it. We've gone from zero roughly a year ago to 5.25% on the Fed funds rate. That's a
monumental move. But like you said, Dylan, the economy is holding up. We had a Q2 report this
this past week from the BEA, showing a 2.4% increase in GDP. I used to work for the BEA,
by the way, in a previous life. The unemployment rate is still near historical lows at 3.6%.
Consumers continue to spend, especially on services. There is no recession in sight,
at least as far as I can see. And inflation is cooling. Mission accomplished.
I think it's too early. Let's say it's too early to say mission accomplished,
only because I think what the Fed has done really well is control expectations. That's great. People
will make judgments about how to run their business, how to run their employment numbers,
all of those things based off of what the Fed says they're going to do. And they've been
incredibly consistent, which is great. But all it takes is one level of data coming out of whack
for somebody to then pull back and then change those plans. So it's great right now because
every number is coming in in the Fed's favor as they're slowly increasing rates, but
all it takes is one. So I'm cautiously optimistic. It sounds like you're getting a little bit there
at the idea of Fed credibility and willingness to stick to what they're saying. I think one
of the things that I'm watching with this narrative, I'm curious for your take here,
Matt, is generally, it's been easy rate hikes for the Fed so far. We've needed to moderate
inflation, but what's going to happen when we need to get from 3.5% down to that final
2%, that long-term target? It seems like they've really wanted to push down to that and are
going to maintain their rate hike schedule. That's my read, at least.
I think that's a good read. I think what you're saying is, the easy work and expected work
has been done. Now, the last few legs to get us down to that 2% target, realistic as that
might be, that's going to be tough. That might really grind the economy to a halt. Let's
hope not. But that's what it might take to get inflation down to that level.
From the big macro to the big movers, we're going to start the earnings look talking about
Chipotle and Spotify, two companies that made big moves after their quarterly reports.
For Chipotle, earnings came in ahead of estimates at $340 million, but revenue and same-store
sales were both slightly below expectations. Emily, the stock fell 10% post-earnings. Is
that because the Q3 outlook wasn't as rosy as people were expecting?
Yeah, the key word there is the expectations. Chipotle has had an incredible couple of years
as they've successfully increased price hikes and proven that they have a little bit of
resilience and pricing power when it comes to the people who will pay up for the Chipotle
experience. But I think part of the reaction is the writing that's on the wall for Chipotle
heading into the next couple of quarters when they don't have the same ability to raise prices
as they did in the past. And management has so much has said that. But now they're lapping some
quarters in the previous year where they actually did raise prices and had some great growth on top
of it. So there's just some near-term pressure that Chipotle is experiencing. But you have to
give credit where credit's due with this company, which is despite these question marks about the
economy and the question marks about the massive price increases that everybody, Chipotle included,
has seen over the last couple of years is they're still driving transaction growth. And the comp
growth in this most recent quarter was really incredible, 7.4%. And that's driven mainly by
increases in traffic. So not just those price increases. People are still coming in and paying
up for that Chipotle experience. And one of the things that they do that I've been so skeptical
about but is incredibly powerful is the launch of new kind of limited-term products. They had a
chicken al pastor over the most recent quarter, which performed incredibly well. These little
upsells they get people into when you walk into Chipotle, you end up spending a little bit more
money for these new products, and that strategy works out well for them. I would say, yeah. I
think this is an example of a company, and there's probably several that we're going to talk about
today, where it's been such a good period of time for the company coming into earnings. I think
Chipotle was trading for around 60 times earnings, roughly, if I have that right. So, they'll have
really no room for error for a company that's just done so well. So, you know, it's not
surprising maybe that the market, on a slight missed expectation, is going to hammer the
stock as much as it did. One of the things that jumped out to me
with the report is, Chipotle opened 47 new locations during the quarter, 40 of them including
drive-thru lanes. It seems like so much of the focus for this business is the digital
ordering, being able to get people in and out as quickly as possible, almost a little
bit more fast food-like than maybe fast casual-like, Emily?
Well, they're competing with both fast food and fast casual. We've seen competitors like
Sweetgreen and Kava in our public markets over the most recent couple of years. So,
they have new competition, while at the same time trying to pull people who would normally
make that stop at, say, a McDonald's or a Wendy's or a Taco Bell. Maybe they have the opportunity to
just as conveniently order from a business like Chipotle. But I will say this, and I have to give
credit where credit is due in terms of this management team. Brian Nicol has been so focused
on the minutiae of running this company, that it is really turning into an operational machine.
And if you don't believe me, go back and read the transcript from the most recent quarter,
because management spends a lot of time talking about things as small as what grill they're using
or what the expediter is doing, whether or not they're working on mobile orders or on the line
that's building in front of the store. They're trying to focus down on what makes a really
efficient business so they can compete with these new customers and some of it being really
efficient fast food businesses, too. We also saw some big moves from Spotify
post-earnings. The company added 10 million new premium customers in the quarter, bringing the
tally to 220 million, over 550 million monthly active users total. I look at this business,
Emily, and I say, all of the things seem to be moving in the right direction. What's going on
here? Thank you. Thank you, Dylan. I'd say Spotify is probably the most underappreciated company
on the market over the past couple of years. This is an operational machine, in my opinion.
and they have an incredible ability to monetize and grow their user base. But because the ad
revenue market has, in general, been so soft, their podcasting business has been draining on
their gross margins. And so, Spotify, following the lead of so many other tech companies,
has gone through the process of trying to turn their business a little bit more operationally
efficient. And that involved things like layoffs. They might not be done quite yet,
but because Spotify is a company that's based outside of the United States, the costs that
they have associated with things like layoffs are a bit higher than, I think, what American
investors are accustomed to. So, when they saw this quarter and they saw ballooning losses,
they attributed that to a failure of their ability to drive efficiency. When in reality,
after adjusting for these one-time severance costs, the operational improvements have been
pretty dramatic. Their adjusted gross margins have grown over time. Their operating margins
have grown over time. They're still loss-producing. But the actual business itself and the way that
management's running the company, I think, continues to perform really well.
550 million monthly active users? If I'm still listening to Pandora, does that make me a
dinosaur? I think so, Matt.
Oh, my gosh. Matt, can I ask you a question? That 550 million, how much do you think that
was a percentage increase year over year? I couldn't guess.
27%. That's monster growth.
Monster growth. I am both a shareholder of Spotify and a user of Spotify. I saw some
news related to the company this week. That was a little bit of a mixed bag for me,
because prices are going up. The standard plan pricing is going from $9.99 to $10.99.
As a shareholder, I say, oh, this is great. We're seeing some pricing power. As a user,
not exactly thrilled to be paying a little bit more. Emily, what do you make of that?
Yeah, the exact reaction I had. This is the first time they've raised prices on their
U.S.-based consumers. This is that question mark. Do they have the pricing power? Because
there is competition in streaming, Amazon Prime, Apple Music. They have options. Consumers have
options. But I like to believe, as both a Spotify investor and a Spotify user, that they've built
a little bit of a moat in terms of the content, not only in terms of podcasts, but playlists and
other sort of, I dare to say, AI-generated. But really, they have a deep understanding of what
their customers want in a way that I think is better than a business that is a bit more diversified
in their focus, Amazon being a great example. So, I think this price increase will work out
for the better for them. All right. After the break,
we've got updates from Big Tech. Stay right here. This is Motley Fool Money.
Dylan Lewis. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money! I'm Dylan Lewis, here in studio with
Emily Flippen and Matt Argersinger. The big banks kicked off the reporting season,
but big tech is really what I like to pay attention to. It's my bread and butter. We have updates
from Alphabet, Meta, and Microsoft. Matt, for Alphabet, Google parent posted revenue
and earnings ahead of expectations. Top line grew 7%. Shares up almost 10% since reporting.
What's going on here? Very solid. I would say it really comes
down to two things that got investors excited. I'm also a shareholder, so I was pretty happy, too.
First, the core business is definitely bouncing back. Really struggled over the past year or so.
But Google's ad revenue rebounded 3.4%. That was higher than consensus. There was growth in both
search and YouTube, which had seen a little bit of a slowdown as well. So, it looks like
the headwinds that were really affecting the overall digital advertising space have started
to dissipate. Then you have the Google Cloud business, which was up 28% year over year
in terms of revenue, but more importantly, also had its second straight quarter of operating
profits for that segment. And operating margin there was much higher than it was in the first
quarter. So, I think that has investors excited about, well, finally, we see this Google Cloud
business on maybe the same ramp that AWS took several years back for Amazon, and really going
to start contributing massive amount of profits to the business. Yeah, everyone's focused on cloud
revenue for this company. You can understand why, but I will say, and I'll reiterate this,
I think YouTube continues to be an underappreciated asset for Alphabet. And there's a reason why the
ad market, I think, is firming up a bit more for them than it is for other players, in part because
they have these platforms that are much easier for advertisers to monetize on in YouTube,
especially with their YouTube Shorts, I think has something really special. When you consider
the fact that there is a writer's strike and an actor's strike right now, the fact that all the
content on that platform is user-generated content can help them potentially grow streaming hours,
which further improves their ad revenue in future quarters. In fact, if you look at total U.S.
TV viewing over the course of May in this year, YouTube was the single largest platform at more
than 8.5% of total viewing hours. That's larger than Netflix, that's larger than Hulu, HBO,
all of those streamers. There's something powerful on YouTube. But yeah, everyone wants
to talk about cloud revenue. Cloud this, cloud that. One of the things
that jumped out to me in the report was Ruth Porat, the company's CFO, is leaving the role
to become President and Chief Investment Officer. Matt, you have talked a little bit before
on the show about Alphabet's capital allocation decisions. I'm curious, knowing that there's
a new person heading into the CFO seat sometime soon, any advice?
I would say, please, please, new wonderful CFO, initiate a dividend. I think that's what
investors would really love to see. You've done a lot of buybacks, but I think a dividend,
we know throughout history, companies that initiate and grow dividends over time are
the best performing stocks. Do it, Alphabet. They've got the cash for it.
They certainly do. Speaking of cash, we're talking meta as
well when we're talking big tech. Shares of the company up 9% following earnings. Company
grew revenue 11% year-over-year to $32 billion, while earnings increased by 21%. This seems to
be, indeed, the year of efficiency based on those growth rates separations there, Emily.
Yeah, it's great for Meta because they've set out these efficiency targets, and they've certainly
been hitting all of them. But the company is now trading at a very similar valuation
as it was around two years ago, right before the giant Metaverse-fueled crash that Meta
experience. And so now there is this question mark about what management strategy looks like
from this point forward. And I'd say that this is the type of business that, in my opinion,
succeeds not because of its capital allocation strategy, but in spite of it. They have these
really highly profitable platforms that have been fueling massive losses for this metaverse venture
that Zuckerberg continues to lead the company towards. And I like some of what they're doing.
I like the partnership with Roblox as one example, right? Getting that platform on Quest headsets can
further expand the actual real-life use cases. But we're still so far away from this being a
material contributor to not only revenue, but earnings as well, that I have to ask the question
about when Meta shareholders get impatient with the company again. I'm not sure that this company
is substantially different than it was two years ago. To your point, Emily, Meta has lost $20
billion since the beginning of last year with its Reality Labs division. I do wonder if there's
going to be a point where investor patience kind of wanes on that. It seemed like that was
something that was happening, but maybe the company's bought itself a little bit of time, Matt?
I think it has, Dylan. Here's the one number I was looking at. If you look at all of 2022,
Meta generated about $18 billion in free cash flow. In just this second quarter alone of 2023,
it generated $11 billion in free cash flow. That's the year of efficiency result that
Mark Zuckerberg got. I think that's what's buying him time to pursue this metaverse strategy
that Emily laid out. Who knows where that's going to go? But I think he bought himself
time and the company time to continue to pursue it.
You mentioned, Emily, the incredible year-ish, couple of years that this business has had
and shareholders have had. It's been a wild ride. The company over the last year and year
to date has performed fairly well for shareholders. Do you feel like, to some extent, the easy
money with Meta maybe has been made? Yeah, it's always this kind of curve
whenever you see a business pursuing efficiency, which is this first couple of quarters after
launching these new targets are really easy because you're trimming the fat. But at some
point, that easy fat's gone, and you're down to actually trying to grow the business while also
not allowing yourself to get too bloated. And the issue with this investment in the Metaverse is
it's really easy to get bloated because you don't quite know where your money is best spent yet,
versus when you've been running a platform like Facebook for so long, you have a pretty good idea
about where you're going to invest money and generate substantial growth from that or earnings
from that. With the metaverse, it is prone to be very expensive very quickly. Now, that doesn't
mean it can't be successful, but it does mean that meta shareholders have to be mentally
in our wallets, prepared for that reality. After this past couple of years, I'm not sure if
investors are prepared the way that they might need to be.
Microsoft reported this week and didn't quite participate in the rally in the same way that
some of those other big tech names did. Earnings and revenue came in ahead of expectations.
The top line grew 8%. But the stock is down about 5% since reporting, Emily.
Yeah, it's a punishing time for Microsoft because they've had such a tough year. No,
I'm teasing. The expectations for Microsoft have been incredibly high. They're an early
investor in OpenAI, the owner of ChatGPT. So, they've benefited a lot in terms of their
valuation from AI hype. And this quarter was probably going to be a rough quarter for them
no matter what, just because the expectations heading into it were so high. But revenue
growth of like 10%, not anything to scoff at for a company of their size. What I really like is
that while there are a lot of companies looking to benefit from AI, Microsoft actually has AI that
is driving revenue, which is really what I care about. How is that actually going to impact
the financial goals of a business? And with their new co-pilot, which is an AI-generated
productivity tool, it costs $30 a month per user. That's expensive, but they're selling it,
so somebody out there is clearly buying it. And they've clearly established that subscription
productivity market already. This is not a big stretch for them to add this to something that
someone might already be paying for in their office suite. Yeah, I like the practical use
cases. I think Adobe and Photoshop being another good example of a company that has practically
used AI to generate sales. I like what Emily said about expectations going in,
because I think if you look at Microsoft coming into earnings, it was trading about 35 times
forward earnings, whereas Alphabet and Meta, closer to 20 times forward earnings. It's like
we talked about with Chipotle in the beginning of the show. Companies have done really, really well
and come in with a lot of expectations. If they haven't just crushed a grand slam with these
earnings, they're selling off a bit. That's to be expected. Matt, this is one of the first times
we're talking about Microsoft without also talking about Activision Blizzard and the
will-they-won't-they-close-that deal. Anything up there with the updates?
I would say no, but I would say at this point, there's probably a 90% chance it closes.
By the way, if you're a shareholder in Activision, which I am, you're going to get a dividend payment
in August, which is nice, but I do think it's going to close. After the break, we've got more
earnings updates from Live Nation, Roku, Coca-Cola, and more. Stay tuned. You're listening to Motley
Fool Money.
Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Dylan Lewis, joined again by Matt Argersinger and
Emily Flippen. Too many earnings updates to count this week, so we've got more company
updates instead of our usual Friday interview. We're going to jump right in, starting with
Roku. Emily, Roku smashed expectations with its quarterly update. Massive top-line beat
with sales hitting nearly $850 million. Loss is a little narrower than expected,
sending the stock up 20%. Emily, so much for a soft ad market.
Well, the power of low expectations. I'd say the ad market is still soft for Roku,
but they managed to grow revenue on their platforms, which is mainly ad revenue,
by 11%. They said they saw some firming. But let's not forget that Roku is a little bit
different than a lot of other advertising-based businesses, that they compete in the scatter ad
market. They don't have contracted ad revenue the way that other competitors may.
which tends to be a bit more volatile for them. So it was a good quarter considering the fact that
traditional TV ads for the scatter market were down something like 17% in the quarter. So just
continuing to transition away from traditional TV towards more connected TV, and Roku is a natural
beneficiary of that. This is the type of business that has always had me scratching my head. I'm a
shareholder. I've been a fan of it over numerous years, although my confidence has waned as I've
been confused by how management is spending their time and their money getting into the smart home
business getting into the original content. But it seems like this is a company that is poised
to succeed in spite of these decisions, which is to say the operating system that Roku has created
is just incredibly sticky, both in the United States, where they're still growing streaming
hours and active accounts, but also internationally as well. In Latin America, they're the number one
selling operating system. And just as long as they keep growing their users and their engagement,
it's really hard to see a world where they're not better monetizing those viewers over time.
So, a lot to like in this quarter. Emily, you were talking before about how
their ad business maybe is some of the easier spend to cut or some of the more nimble spend
that marketers use. I'm wondering, given that a lot of their advertisers are also in the
entertainment space, and we have a writer's strike and an actor's strike right now,
do you have any concerns about reduced ad spend for new shows, new movies,
hitting a company like Roku maybe more than other advertising companies?
Yes. And I would expect that it will. So, obviously, Roku, alongside so many different
companies are hoping for an end to this rider strike sooner rather than later. But ultimately,
what drives engagement, what drives ad spend, not only from the people who are placing
advertisements, but the people who are watching them, is good content. And without good content,
people aren't going to be turning on their TVs as much. So that's certainly pressure in the
near term. But I do think Roku benefits over the long term from things like ad-based tiers for
streaming, more expensive streaming prices. All those naturally flow into a better business for
Roku. So, these are some near-term headwinds. But whether or not I think it'll actually impact
a thesis for holding Roku shares over the long term, I'd say no.
From the small screen to the big stage, Live Nation reported this week,
Matt, revenue for the ticketing business hit $5.6 billion. Earnings per share came in at $1,
up 55% year over year. Seems like people are very happy to dole out money for the live experiences.
They certainly are, Dylan. So impressive. 27% growth in revenue to what you said, $5.6 billion.
That was way ahead of consensus, which was right around $5 billion.
The lion's share of that revenue comes from the company's concerts business.
What's interesting is that the number of events produced by Live Nation in a quarter actually
fell about 2% to 12,241, but the number of fans attending rose 9% to 37 million.
That's a huge number.
But I can't get this number out of my head.
12,241 events.
That means Live Nation is putting up roughly 136 events per day, and there's 90 days in a quarter.
That's mind-blowing to me.
Now, I know some of those concerts, quote, can be kind of a short, single-artist show, small venue.
That's still a lot of events in a single quarter.
Yeah, they only put on 12,000.
That was down year over year.
Yes, it was down.
I mean, it's just an amazing number.
And then tickets sold, which is another part of the business, that climbed 7% to over 150 million tickets sold.
So, just an absolute monster of a quarter for Live Nation.
I think when people hear the name Live Nation, they often think of Ticketmaster.
This is one of those businesses where, I think, if you're a shareholder, you're happy.
If you're a user, you have your gripes with the business.
This is a company that often catches flack for some of its practices.
They've had executives on Capitol Hill in the last year or so.
Are you worried at all about regulatory intervention with this company?
I'm not so much worried as I think I was six months ago.
I assumed, by the way, after all the scrutiny they got, that they were going to spin off
this business. I still think that might be a good move down the road. But they've addressed
how they handled the big surge in ticket sales for big artists like Taylor Swift. They're
working on all those little fees that get attached to these tickets. I think they're
taking action. I still think they'll spin it off at some point.
I actually looked at this company a while ago for one of our services, the real estate
winter service here at The Motley Fool. I really like the real estate behind this business.
They have some iconic venues, some real estate that just can't be replicated anywhere in the world.
But I got scared away a little bit by the Ticketmaster scrutiny.
Maybe I need to revisit that thesis.
But, of course, the stock's already run away from me, so I don't know.
Emily, all of the spending that we are seeing on events bodes well, especially for the credit card companies.
Last week, we were checking in on American Express.
They saw record spending.
I imagine we're seeing some pretty strong spending looking at MasterCard's results this week as well.
Yeah, whether or not you think that's a good thing or a bad thing,
I think remains to be seen. But MasterCard is certainly benefiting from an increase in spending
over the most recent quarter. In their most recent quarter, they beat on both the top and bottom
lines. Not unusual for MasterCard. But it was largely, in this case, thanks to international
travel. They saw cross-border payments rise 24% in the quarter, which is spectacular. And you may
wonder, well, why is the stock not really moving here? And it really hasn't moved. And part of that,
I think, is because the market is betting that these benefits are short-lived in nature. We're
still seeing some post-COVID weirdness. Management called out travel into China,
picking up, but still being where it was or below in 2019. So, there's a bet that the slowdown is
probably going to come for this company. But for right now, it's a decent quarter for MasterCard.
The big question mark remains of what does the health of consumers look like in the second half
of the year? And MasterCard, in comparison to a company like Visa, does have the benefit
of being a little bit less reliant upon revenue generated from the United States.
They have a bit more diversification in terms of global exposure. I think less than one-third
of their revenue comes from the U.S. It's larger for most other card makers. So, they have that
benefit. But they need that increase in spending because they make their revenue from increases
in transactions. So, they need to use your card, use it more often for smaller, more frequent
purchases. And let's just keep our fingers crossed that regulators don't come in and say,
hey, you know, Ticketmaster, MasterCard, those little fees that you charge, yeah,
we're going to do something about that. Yeah, I was going to say, this is going to
sound similar to our Live Nation segment, but I'm wondering, is this an industry that you worry
about lawmakers saying, you know, I see what you're doing there, and this seems awfully consolidated?
I do. And I know that our regulators, at least in the United States, have been a little bit
all over the place. So, betting on any sort of regulatory change, I think, is a fool's move in
one direction or another. But it's hard not to see the pressure that businesses are getting from
consumers, or in this case, card makers are getting from smaller businesses when they have to
charge 2% of that transaction going to the Visa or MasterCard. That's very high. It's very onerous,
and it causes price hikes for consumers. So, there could be some regulatory pressure there.
We also saw results from Coca-Cola this week. The company reported earnings and revenue ahead
of estimates and raised its full-year outlook. Matt, is this a continued example of a pricing
power story? It is, Dylan. But before we get to that, I'm just so glad we're talking Coca-Cola
here. Today, as you know, Dylan, I'm here as Clark Kent. But as you know, my alter ego
is Superman. No, no. No, it's not. I'm so glad you said Superman. No, it's Ron Gross.
Oh, yes. Ron Gross, of course. Our other superhero.
Right. Or maybe Super Grossman. I can almost hear Dan Boyd shaking his head behind the
glass. But Super Grossman loves boring, stodgy dividend companies like Coca-Cola, and so
to why and why shouldn't he? This is a company still putting up impressive results, even
as mature as it is. But like you said, it's all about pricing power. If you look at Constrate
volumes, they were up only 1% in the quarter. Case volumes were flat. They were even down
1% in North America. But sales were up 10% on a price and mix basis. Overall, if you
strip out the currency effects and some of the non-recurring expenses, Coke's organic
revenue was up 11%. Earnings per share were on the same basis. We're also up 11%.
This is a company that's still a very mildly growing company, especially in overseas markets.
Paying a 3% dividend, a lot to like. Ron Gross would love it.
Astute listeners may note that it's been a while since both you and Ron Gross
have been on the show together, Matt. Do I need to start investigating whether you are the same person?
We might be the same person, Dylan. You never know.
With a company that operates in a lower-tier, lower-priced product, do you worry more about
the pricing power-fueled elements of their growth? Do you think that there's a little
bit more sensitivity? So far, there certainly hasn't been.
But I do question how far that pricing power extends. Coca-Cola has done a great job building
out their portfolio of brands. There are many more things besides just soda. Water, fruit juices,
teas. The brands have exceptional followings. But I would say, at some point, you can't
raise the price 5%, 6%, 7%, 9%, 10% before it starts hitting demand. There's that issue.
And I think they're also facing some scrutiny, as we know, with the diet soda, whether or not
there's negative health effects there. So far, though, pricing power has held up really,
really well. The question is, will it continue to hold up as we go forward?
Before we head into the break, I want to take a step back and look broadly at what we're seeing
so far this earnings season. We've gotten some interesting looks at ad spending. We've been able
to see a little bit of where there is and is not, perhaps, some pricing power. Emily, what are you
seeing this earnings season, and what stories are emerging for you? It's funny, despite the fact
that this has been a great year for tech companies in a way that 2022 was not. I still feel like
there's a little bit of skepticism around companies that are not generating sustainable
profits right now. I think the bar is higher. If you're coming into this earnings season
with ballooning losses, example being Spotify, then investor tolerance for the numbers you put
forward is going to be smaller. That's despite the fact that the economy is strong. It's been
a good year. I just think that there is still this fear that is hanging in the back of Wall
Street's mind that is causing some knee-jerk reactions on many of these companies.
Do you think that some of that is a reflection of the higher borrowing environment that we're
in with higher rates, or do you think there's something else there?
I think there's something else there, because I'm seeing this regardless of whether or not that
company is in a decent cash position. There's companies with billions of dollars on their
balance sheet and cash or marketable securities that are still unprofitable. They don't need to
go to public markets anytime soon. But the market is treating it like they do.
Matt, what about you? What's jumping out this earnings season?
Yeah, just based on the companies we talked to on the show, I think valuations
matter a little bit. If you're a company like Microsoft or Chipotle coming in on a bit of
a heater, lots of momentum, your stock gave back a little bit. Maybe results weren't quite
as amazing as analysts expected, whereas companies with some question marks, like a Roku or a
Live Nation even, are outperforming. I think that's the story here so far. It's companies
that are demonstrating a lot of momentum, giving back some. Companies that maybe not
have participated so far are catching up. All right. Coming up after the break,
we've got stocks on our radar. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
Dylan Lewis. As always, people on the program may have
interest in the stocks they talk about, and The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations
for or against, so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. I'm Dylan Lewis,
joined again by Emily Flippen and Matt Argersinger. We've got stocks on our radar, but we're checking
in first on the summer box office. People are back in theater seats thanks to Barbie
and Oppenheimer releases, both performing strong. But Barbie's posted an eye-popping
half a billion dollars in the global box office for its first week. Matt, did you have any
notion that it was going to register a number like that?
Absolutely not, Dylan. I can't believe when you said the number this morning. I just
cannot believe it's been that popular. But credit to Mattel, credit to the director,
credit to the producers, because they made a movie that obviously has wide, wide appeal.
I've heard, anecdotally, men in their 50s going to see Barbie. That brand has that nostalgic
feeling. Years ago, if you'd said, they're doing a Barbie movie, I would have said, OK,
maybe girls between the ages of 7 and 15 will go see that movie. It'd be great. But this
obviously has universal appeal. Yeah, this is a really conscious decision on Mattel's part. I
think they were trying to modernize the Barbie brand a bit. And for people who are familiar with
the movie, the movie is rated PG-13, for instance. So they're kind of dismissing that younger female
audience that would typically be what you would associate with a Barbie brand and going towards
a more mature audience, updating Barbie for the modern era. Now, does this lead to a sustainable
increase in Barbie IP? I mean, maybe. But what we can see is that it has widespread appeal. And I
think, in part, thanks to their decision to focus on a slightly more mature audience with slightly
more mature themes that has obviously, in combination with Op and Hire, taken the internet
by storm. Mattel, it seems very clearly, is looking at what Marvel has done over the last
couple of years and saying, we have IP. We're interested in doing this. They reportedly have
14 properties in active development making use of their intellectual property library.
I want to run a couple of these by you and see if any of them seem to have half-a-billion-dollar
box office potential. We have Barney, Polly Pocket, Thomas & Friends, and American Girl.
Emily, do any of those jump out as something that has the appeal of Barbie?
I feel like the only one that stands out to me, and maybe I'm showing my age here,
is Barney. I feel like that's probably the brand that people will, when you say the word
Barney, you know immediately what somebody is talking about. The same way when you say Barbie,
you know what Barbie is. Now, can I picture an American Girl doll in my head? No. Can I picture
Polly Pocket in my head? Definitely not. So I feel like that's where they have the most potential.
But I do feel like trying to modernize Barney for potentially a more mature audience is going to be
harder, I think, than Barbie. Matt, are you seeing a Barney movie?
I am not, Dylan. I'm very skeptical of this. I think this is a very cautionary tale to look at
what Marvel's done, and see if you can replicate that. Look at Hasbro, for example, a company
very similar to Mattel, which had some success with those Transformers movies, but then tried
to do Battleship and a few other movies that just didn't kind of fell flat. So, take it slow,
focus on your best IP. One of the things I'm curious about with this IP extension thing is,
there's a clear playbook here, and we are seeing these properties that have really large libraries
say, you know what, we can update this, maybe make it relevant to a new audience. Barbie's a big
Splash, but I do wonder, as we become more aware of what these companies are trying to do,
Matt, will the consumer appeal for some of these movies start to wane?
Right. Look at Nintendo this year, to use a really recent example. Super Mario Brothers,
wide appeal. The movie did incredibly well. Nintendo's already come out, just like Mattel,
and said, hey, we're going to have Zelda, we're going to have all these other movies
potentially around our IP. I think the playbook gets old really fast, as Emily alluded to.
Is it sustainable? I'm not sure.
All right, let's get over to stocks on our radar. Our man behind the glass,
Dan Boyd, is going to hit you with a question. Emily, you're up first. What are you looking at
this week? Yeah, I have an interesting company on my radar this week. It's BorgWarner. The
ticker is BWA. Over the last couple of years, BorgWarner, who is a traditional auto parts
manufacturer, has been slowly transitioning its business to a more electric future.
They were known for their internal combustion engine parts, but now they're getting into the
EV parts. And they actually made a big move earlier this year to spin off their traditional
kind of diesel-focused parts into a separate business that's now publicly traded called
Finia, leaving just this really electric-focused BorgWarner business. And I like it because I think
it's a more under-the-radar, picks-and-shovels-esque play on the trend of electrification.
So, if you're an investor who likes companies like Tesla and you kind of believe in the future
of electric vehicles, but you're looking for a way to play that same growth without buying
a manufacturer themselves, I think BorgWarner is one to consider.
Resistance is futile. Dan, a question about BorgWarner, and can you say it three times fast?
I'm not even going to try that second one, Dylan, but I do have a question. Emily,
did you make this company up to bring to the show today? Because I don't think anybody at
the table has heard of this one. This is actually a recommendation
in Stock Advisor for listeners who have a subscription to Stock Advisor. I definitely
recommend it. It's an old company. It's been through a lot of changes over the last couple
of years, but I think their leadership team is very forward-looking.
I love it when people bring new ideas to the show. Matt, what's on your radar this week?
I don't think this is a new idea because I think I've talked about this one before,
but Invitation Homes, ticker INVH, it's the country's leading single-family rental REIT.
They have over 80,000 single-family homes, many of which reside in the faster-growing
Sunbelt states like Florida, Georgia, Arizona, and Texas. Outstanding second quarter results
this week. Rent growth on new and renewal leases averaged 7%. That's coming off double-digit
growth last year. This is about the housing market, if you think about it. Low inventories
of existing homes, multi-decade high mortgage rates. Millions of millennials are just now
entering those prime home-buying years. Emily just bought a house recently. But a lot of
them are priced out. It's just a really expensive market. And you can rent one of Invitation's
homes for about $1,000 less, get the privacy, get the yard, get the bigger space that you're
looking for. I think it's a huge value prop. Dan, a question about Invitation Homes.
Yeah, Matty, yesterday on the show, Matt Frankel was talking about how there is
an affordable housing shortage. Is Invitation Homes investing at all in affordable housing?
Well, not directly, but if you think about their portfolio, it includes a lot of
relatively affordable housing. If you're a resident or looking for a home or looking
to buy a home, you're going to pay a lot less to live in one of Invitation's homes.
In a way, I think, yeah, it is more affordable. Dan, which company are you putting on your
watch list, Invitation Homes or BorgWarner, BorgWarner, BorgWarner?
It's hard, Dylan, because they actually do both seem like good companies. But, you know,
they're not making any more land here. So, I'm going to go with Invitation Homes this time around.
Alright! Makes a lot of sense!
Good call, Dan. Emily Flippen, Matt Argersinger,
thank you both for being here and bringing your stocks on the radar.
Thank you. That's going to do it for this week's
Motley Fool Money radio show. The show is mixed by Dan Boyd. I'm Dylan Lewis. Thanks for listening.
We'll catch you next time.
