Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - The Fed's Next Move, ESPN’s Future

Episode Date: March 17, 2023

Inflation data and the state of play in the banking industry has investors wondering: What will the Fed decide next week about interest rates? (0:21) Jason Moser and Matt Argersinger discuss: - First... Republic getting $30 billion in deposits from 11 major banks - The latest CPI and PPI numbers continuing the trend of cooling inflation - Whether the Federal Reserve should raise rates next week (and if so, by how much) or hit the pause button - The latest from FedEx, Adobe, Lennar, and Williams-Sonoma (19:11) John Ourand from Sports Business Journal and the "Sports Media Podcast" analyzes the economics of March Madness, why he's bullish on the upcoming MLB season, and Disney CEO Bob Iger's latest thinking on ESPN. (32:13) Matt and Jason discuss Google raising the price of YouTube TV and share two stocks on their radar: Charles Schwab and Zebra Technologies. Stocks discussed: SIVB, FRC, BAC, JPM, WFC, C, PNC, MTB, FDX, ADBE, LEN, WSM, FOX, WBD, PARA, DIS, AMZN, AAPL, GOOG, GOOGL, SCHW, ZBRA To get your copy of our free report "Top Stocks For Rising Interest Rates" just go to fool.com/interest. Host: Chris Hill Guests: Jason Moser, Matt Argersinger, John Ourand Engineer: Dan Boyd Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Motley Fool Money starts now. Everybody needs money. That's why they call it money. From Fool Global Headquarters, this is Motley Fool Money. It's the Motley Fool Money radio show. I'm Chris Hill. Joining me in studio, Motley Fool Senior Analyst Jason Moser and Matt Argersinger. Good to see you, as always, gentlemen. Hey, Addy. Chris. We've got the latest headlines from Wall Street. John Oran from the Sports Business Journal is
Starting point is 00:01:18 our guest. And as always, we've got a couple of stocks on our radar. But we begin with the state of play in banking. Last week, the big story was Silicon Valley Bank. And on Friday morning of this week, SVB's parent company officially filed for bankruptcy. The more intriguing story involved First Republic Bank. On Thursday, a collection of major banks, including Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, and Citigroup, agreed to deposit a combined $30 billion as a sign of confidence in the overall banking system. And while the deal does not include government funding. JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon reportedly discussed the idea of the First Republic Rescue Package earlier in the week with Fed Chairman Jay Powell and
Starting point is 00:02:03 Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen. Matt, I will start with you. Where are we now? Oh, my gosh. What a week. Well, right now, I think, as an investor, you're watching here on a Friday, you just gave the news about the First Republic Bank Rescue, in a sense. I just think there are too many unknowns. The market obviously believes, investors obviously believe that there are more problems, more shoes to drop. Because if you look at the performance of regional banks today and how they performed all week, and we get the news about Silicon Valley Bank, we got the news about First Republic. But if you look at a lot of regional banks whose deposit bases, whose loan books look a lot different from those banks, I'm talking
Starting point is 00:02:45 Regions Financial, PNC, M&T Bank. In many cases, banks that have been around for more than 100 years and been doing business, they've all been killed and they're getting killed. And so investors are just selling first and asking questions later. And I actually don't think that's a terrible strategy when it comes to banking, because with a short term full of unknowns, long term, you have to believe that no matter how this comes out, there are going to be more regulations, there are going to be more costs, insurance premiums are going to go higher. What is the future for regional banks, small to midsize banks? I don't know if it's an investable class anymore. And that's what I'm trying to figure out. And I just don't know right now. And I don't blame
Starting point is 00:03:21 the investors for selling first and asking questions later. Yeah, you hope that the intention on Jamie Dimon's part and the executives in the industry is to lend some more credibility to the smaller banks. It remains to be seen whether that's going to stick. I mean, we're clearly seeing a lack of faith in the banking system right now. I mean, they are right to try to contain this as quickly as possible. But optics matter. And I think that's why you're seeing these conversations between Jay Powell and Jamie Diamond and other banking executives. I mean, can you imagine the phone conversation? Mr. Diamond, we have Mr. Powell on the line for you. Yeah, tell him to hold. I'll get to him. I know he
Starting point is 00:03:58 needs me more than I need him, right? That's kind of probably the way they're thinking right now. It might be. But I mean, we're talking about 11 major banks involved in this deal. We are. We were talking about this earlier today. At some point, there is some self-preservation involved here. There's no question. Because they don't want to be in a situation that they were in 15 years ago, where the phone call coming from the Treasury Secretary or the Federal Reserve Chair at the time is more along the lines of, hey, I need you to buy this troubled bank, as opposed to, go get some cash out of the register and deposit it into the bank.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah, I mean, these deposits that were put down for First Republic, and you're right. The return on that could mathematically be zero for these 11 banks, right? I'm certain they are thinking longer term. They're thinking, listen, we've got to shore these banks up. We've got to keep credibility within this space, and we've got to prevent this thing from really spreading. So, I think they're absolutely taking the longer-term view here, which makes a lot of sense. When you look at First Republic, and you think about what we've seen just over the course of one week with this bank, we've gone from everything is fine, don't worry, to, uh-oh,
Starting point is 00:05:09 it's a bank run, to, never mind, we're good, to, hey, a $30 billion backdrop from our industry peers, to, what, now we're suspending our dividend, wait, now we probably are going to need to be acquired, all in the period of one week. I will also remind you that a week ago, First Republic published an 8K on the front of their website, claiming that everything was OK. And I'll quote you some of the numbers they quoted from this 8K. They said their consumer deposits have an average account size of less than $200,000. Business deposits have an average account size of less than $500,000. Within business deposits, no one sector represents more than 9% of total deposits, with the largest being diversified real estate, Matty. Technology-related deposits
Starting point is 00:05:54 represent only 4% of total deposits. I mean, they put all of this information out there a week ago to instill confidence that clearly didn't stick. That's it. It's confidence and what you said earlier about faith in the banking system. There's very little right now. And think about beyond the banks themselves. Think about the depositors. Think about small to mid-sized businesses across this country. Real estate, for one, that you mentioned. But even if you're an industrial company or a health services company, you've got to likely have deposits that are uninsured at a bank, a regional bank, and you're trying to think to yourself, what's going on with my bank? Do I just need to pull those deposits out? Do I just need to make sure I'm protecting
Starting point is 00:06:31 my balance sheet? And I think those are questions being asked all across the country. And that's why the tentacles of this thing can really reach out really wide. And there's so much uncertainty, and we just don't know where it ends. Well, it throws a lot of just rational thinking out of the window, right? I mean, rationally, we know our deposits are protected. I mean, but that flies out the window during times like these. I mean, everybody just gets into self-preservation mode and wants to ultimately protect themselves. And it's very understandable. It's your money.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Nobody should care about it more than you. And you can't ask depositors, especially individuals, to analyze the creditworthiness of their bank. I'm not going to say, well, should I be worried about my bank and understand what my bank's exposed to? Because, gosh, my deposits could be at risk. You can't ask that of depositors, which makes this situation so precarious. Mattie, you talked earlier about the regional banks. They are, at least for the moment, in the stay-away category for you personally as an investor. Where are the big banks in this? Are there enough question marks out there that you think, yeah, I'm not necessarily rushing to
Starting point is 00:07:35 invest in those either? Well, I think because you would think, well, that's where the capital is going to flow. These banks are higher regulatory requirements, so they're going to be fine. And that's maybe where I should be thinking about investing. But I think the problem is, the long picture is very cloudy. You're talking about overall faith in the banking system and what the regulatory changes are going to be. Even the big banks are probably going to face higher costs, which I think is why companies like JP Morgan, Bank of America, are so interested in trying to prevent First Republic Bank from really going under on a deposit basis, because they're worried about the greater implications for their industry over time. No matter what, it's going to be
Starting point is 00:08:10 costlier in the future. That makes it harder to invest. This week, we also got the latest data related to inflation, the Consumer Price Index and the Producer Price Index numbers for February continue the trend that we've seen for months. Inflation is cooling off. And with that, Jason, next week, all eyes are going to be on the Federal Reserve's meeting and what they decide to do with everything related to inflation and everything related to the banks that we've talked about when it comes to, do they raise interest rates? And if so, by how much? I mean, that is going to be the topic du jour for these next few days. And I think, rightly so. I mean, it's an interesting exercise to go through in your mind. We were talking
Starting point is 00:08:49 about it in production. You hear every perspective, and it's like, yeah, I get that. That makes sense, right? And you hear someone with the contrarian perspective, yeah, I get that too. It makes sense, right? It's hard to figure out exactly what they will do, because this is such a unique situation, right? I mean, we've seen rates rise at such a rapid pace. I mean, it's the fastest we've seen this push in interest rates since back to the 1980s. It's something that's not normal, right? I mean, the last three years have not been normal. And it's kind of all coming to a head here. It does seem like we're seeing signs that inflation is easing, right? I mean, the producer price index numbers there indicate that things could be cooling off at
Starting point is 00:09:32 least a little bit. You know, I don't know that we necessarily need to make a call, but my mind is thinking that if I was going to make a call here, I personally would probably say, you know what, let's just hold tight this time around. And the main reason why, let's not cut, let's not bump up, let's just kind of leave things the way they are, right? Because what we're seeing is still plenty of uncertainty, right? There's enough uncertainty to my mind that for Powell and company to be able to say they can predict the ripple effects of their policy decisions here over the last year, for them to say they can predict these effects over the course of the next six months, much less six days, I think it would be difficult to take that very seriously.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And so I think that it would make sense to just stand down and sort of reassess the next meeting. That makes sense, Jason. But it's the prisoner's dilemma, right? It's like, Powell's thinking to himself, if investors know what I'm thinking, but then I'm thinking this, then what are they thinking if I do this? And the thing is, if they hold pat, and I think that is probably a sound thing to do, given all the uncertainty, right? But if you don't raise 25 basis points, are investors going to say, well, wait a sec. Wait, wait. You're saying there's a problem.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Are you admitting that? There is a problem here. I need to be worried. The Fed has changed course. Okay, there are bigger problems here than I knew about. But mathematically, there's not a huge difference, literally and figuratively, between holding pat and raising it a quarter percent, which leads to this question. We talk all the time about companies reporting earnings, and the earnings results are one thing, but the guidance is something else, and that's what guides the day. Is the language that we get out of the Fed next week more important than what they actually do? Is the press conference, and I
Starting point is 00:11:19 hate to say that, but it does make me wonder, is it essentially the Fed interest rate version of that, where it's like, whatever they do, the language around whatever they do is more important? I think that's right. It's just one of those things where we wordsmith every Fed statement. We look for subtle changes word-to-word, month-to-month. This is going to be the ultimate one. That's what investors want to know, is exactly what the Fed is thinking and the way they disclose things. And yeah, it's going to be parsed to death. Yeah, it's the math. And I think this is what makes investing and what we do for a living so fun and so fascinating, because there's the mathematics involved, right? There's the
Starting point is 00:12:00 objective answer, but then there's the psychology that comes with it. And that, obviously, is a much broader brush. Right. We play the weighing game. We try to at The Motley Fool, long-term weighing game. We weigh the value of stocks. But investors are voting right now in the short run. They are voting like crazy and the votes are, you know, they're being counted in so many different ways right now. Yeah. And, but I mean, ultimately you have to ask yourself, is that psychology? It, it sure feels like there's a bit more glass half empty out there right now. Is that, is that offering up some opportunities? And I think we all would agree there, there probably are some opportunities that, that are starting,
Starting point is 00:12:37 starting to bubble up to the surface. After the break, we've got the latest in the housing industry, retail, software, and more. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser and Matt Argersinger. The cost cutting that has been going on at FedEx appears to be paying off. Third quarter profits were much higher than expected for the bellwether business and shares of FedEx up on Friday, man. That's the key question, Chris, for every company actually right now. But in FedEx particular, it's, could they cut costs fast enough and raise prices fast enough to offset the big slowdown in volume that they started to see last year? And I think right now, the answer
Starting point is 00:13:20 is kind of yes. Because if you look at the pricing power they're getting, particularly in the ground and freight business segments, they saw revenue per shipment rise 11% there. The guidance that they gave was much better than expected. I mean, they were looking at a range between $13 and $14 a share for the entire fiscal year. Now, ranging $14.60 to $15.20, so roughly $15 a share per earning. So, clearly, it's working. I just think the question for FedEx is, they're doing all this cost-cutting and efficiency. Will that matter if the top line doesn't come back? Because this is an operating leverage business all the way, right? And so, that's down. They're still seeing big slowdown in their express business, which is the biggest part of the business, almost 50% of
Starting point is 00:14:05 revenue. That's got to come back. I think today, though, based on those earnings projections, you're getting FedEx at roughly 15 times forward earnings. It's a below-market multiple. They've been raising the dividend. They were absolutely hammered last year. So, you're getting a pretty big break there. So, if volumes start to come back, the economy turns around, FedEx is a leaner, meaner machine that could be producing a lot more cash flow. Shares of Adobe up 7% this week after the software giant's first quarter results came in higher than expected. Adobe also raised guidance for the full fiscal year. That is the one-two punch we like to see. Yes. In a world where budgets continue
Starting point is 00:14:42 to tighten and companies are playing more defense, Adobe, I think they really did report a very encouraging quarter. And it's been a tough stretch for the business and for shareholders alike, I think really by any measure over the last several years. But revenue, $4.6 billion. It was up 13% from a year ago, excluding currency impacts. You saw non-GAAP earnings per share of $3.80. That was up almost 13% as well. They saw some big customer wins in the quarter with Accenture, BBC, Disney, IBM, Infosys, Nintendo. It was a nice quarter for their document cloud business, which grew revenue around 16% from a year ago. They continue to do a good job in repurchasing shares and bringing that count down. It's down about
Starting point is 00:15:25 6% from 2018. As you mentioned, raising guidance, they're calling for earnings per share of $15.45 at the midpoint. That value shares today at around 23X full-year estimates. Historically, I would argue, an opportunistic look at this stock. Now, the wildcard, the big question mark still is this Figma acquisition. That has not happened. It's not clear that it necessarily will. Management is optimistic that it will. They're continuing to go through the process and meet the requirements that regulators are asking. They see this closing by the end of this year. Again, it's still a question mark as to whether regulators will actually let it happen. Lenar is the second largest home builder in America. First quarter
Starting point is 00:16:10 profits and revenue were higher than expected, but Lenar said that orders for new homes fell. What do you make of their latest? With the homebuilders and Lennar, I think right now it's a matter of balancing demand against trying to protect margins. We know demand is lower, obviously, and new orders were down 10%. I like to look at backlog, which was down 29%. That's a pretty big drop. Cancellation rate was 21%. That's up from 10%, which is more typical of homebuilders. The future right now is they're not building a lot of homes, or not going to be delivering a lot of homes. But I think with homebuilders right now, with Lennar, it's more about design. I think it's protecting sales price. If you look at their average sales
Starting point is 00:16:51 price of homes in the quarter, $448,000 versus $457,000 a year ago. Not a huge drop. I think a lot of us following the housing market would say, wow, I expected that to be a bigger drop. So, they're protecting price, protecting margin. And by going slower now, doing less business, They can sort of recharge when demand returns and there's better pricing power. So, tough in the short term, but Lennar makes the argument that a lot of homebuilders do, which I agree, which is that we have a national shortage of housing still, even after this housing bubble that we saw. And it might even get exasperated.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So, there's still long-term a pretty good demand outlook for homes. The fourth quarter capped what Williams-Sonoma called a year of record revenue and profits. Despite that, shares down a bit on Friday after the report. Jason, you look at the chart, Wall Street is not rushing to reward Williams-Sonoma for their last 12 months. Well, maybe so, but they have rewarded them for the last three years. It's been a very good stretch for shareholders. Shares up 250% over that stretch. That seems like it makes sense, though. People had a lot of money to spend over the last few years. I think the question really is, what does this story look like going forward? That remains to be seen because it's so dependent
Starting point is 00:18:05 on the consumer. But the business itself, fundamentally doing very well. Revenue was essentially flat for the quarter, and gross margin was down a good bit from a year ago. It was driven by higher shipping and freight costs, occupancy costs, whatnot. So, not terribly surprising. And that ultimately resulted in earnings per share of $5.50, also basically flat from a year ago. But they continue to grow the business, and they are taking this business in a number of different directions. You see e-commerce that now represents fully two-thirds of overall revenue. And I think a neat dynamic that probably most investors aren't considering is the company's B2B business, the business-to-business. These consumers you're
Starting point is 00:18:47 talking about, Williams-Sonoma being a furnishings company for restaurants and hotels and football stadiums, they're growing this business considerably, closing in on $1 billion in revenue for the company, and grew 27% from a year ago. So, I think putting that together, the share count down better than 20% over the last five years as well, again, a lot depends on the future of the consumer here, but this is a business that's being run very well. All right. Jason Moser, Matt Argersinger. Guys, we'll see you a little bit later in the show. March Madness is exciting for sports fans, but is it translating into ad dollars for the TV networks? We'll get into that and more with our guest, John O'Rand, right after the break.
Starting point is 00:19:24 This is Motley Fool Money. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill. As March Madness gets underway and Major League Baseball is just around the corner, it seems like a really good time to check in on the business angles related to the sports world with our friend John Oran. He covers Media for the Sports Business Journal, and he joins me now from Washington, D.C. John, thanks for being here. Anytime, Chris. So it occurred to me this week that every year before the Super Bowl, there's a lot of conversation around the advertising. And some of that is because there's genuine excitement about what
Starting point is 00:20:13 are the ads going to be, the creative of advertising. But a lot of it is about the money and how much the network is going to make off of a 30-second commercial, that sort of thing. And this week, for the first time, I started to think, well, wait a minute, the NCAA basketball tournament is a big event that lasts for the entire month. How are the economics for the networks involved in the NCAA basketball tournament? Because my hunch is they're looking pretty good. They are looking great. In fact, the NCAA tournament is so unique. The Super Bowl, Fox had it this year. Fox sold the advertising this year, and it's network by network. The tournament is shared by CBS and by Turner.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And you have the ad sales groups for each network, who usually are competing against each other, now working together. And it has been working out really well this year to where they brought in a record haul of revenue, more than a billion dollars in just advertising revenue. And the Advertising around the NCAA tournament doesn't have as much panache as, say, the Super Bowl, where people wait and look. But they are unique. They have these commercials that star a lot of the talent. You'll see Samuel L. Jackson, Charles Barkley, and Jim Nance on a road trip. There There are different commercial campaigns that are really just launched off of the NCAA tournament. And so the business behind not just the tournament, but all of college basketball this season has been really healthy.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Well, I remember when you and I talked last year, and we'll talk more broadly about ESPN in a minute, but I remember you saying when we talked last year that one of the best television deals when it comes to the rights of live sports is ESPN's deal with the NCAA. And if you think, John, not just about the men's basketball tournament, but the women's basketball tournament and the compelling storylines there, it really does seem like the economics are working out very well for the television networks. Oh, and especially that ESPN does not pay for the women's basketball tournament. They pay for this whole bucket of rights that include everything from college rowing that they stream to college lacrosse to the College World Series
Starting point is 00:22:47 and the NCAA Women's Basketball Tournament. What makes me so bullish about the next couple of weeks with March Madness is that over the last two decades, college basketball has struggled somewhat. The play isn't nearly as good. You have people going directly from high school to the NBA or staying for one season and then going. The idea of having a Coach K with a player for three or four years and building a really good, high-quality team hasn't worked. That doesn't exist anymore. Ratings generally have been soft. March Madness is so popular, the theory was, said it devalued regular season. Well, this season, Fox set an all-time record with viewership. CBS was up. ESPN was up. Fox had the most-watched basketball game in its history. On the women's
Starting point is 00:23:47 side, ESPN had the most-watched women's game in history as well, South Carolina game. Ratings were also up over there. Everything is working out really well. The business behind college basketball and for the 2022-23 season was very healthy let's move on to baseball because a year ago at this time you and i were talking about the animosity between the mlb players and owners there were serious questions about whether the season would start on time here we are a year later and the story is about the rules changes implemented to speed up the game do you think, you know, the early reviews are good. And I'm wondering if you think this is going to translate into higher ratings for all of the networks involved in major league
Starting point is 00:24:41 baseball. I think that's almost a certain bet that that's going to happen. Reports coming out of spring training and it's hard to look at spring training and see if it's going to translate to regular season. But the reports are they cut off about a half hour of game time. There have been viral videos about a pitcher that gets all three outs in an inning in the same time it took a pitcher two seasons ago to make one pitch. The game moves a lot quicker, and there's different pacing. That translates to television as well. There's an expectation because they got rid of the shift, and they increased the size of the bases. That matters because you're going to get more stolen bases. You're going to get more people trying to leg out doubles. There's going to be
Starting point is 00:25:28 more exciting plays in the field than the traditional home-runner strikeout, which has been a problem for the last little bit. TV networks expect the ratings nationally to increase. I don't know what significantly is, but they expect them to be up from last year. It's baseball, so of course, there's a red flag, right, Chris? The only red flag right now is locally, where Diamond Sports, which owns all the Valley Sports RSNs and deals with close to 17, close to 20 Major League Baseball teams, they filed for bankruptcy. Then there's Warner Brothers Discovery, which owns four regional sports networks, including the Pirates in Pittsburgh and the Rockies in Denver. They've told teams that
Starting point is 00:26:23 they're just going to walk away from this, and the rights are going to revert back to baseball. Right now, everybody's still going to be able to see those games locally, but how that transpires and what happens in July and August is a question that I'm going to be reporting on until July or August. Well, and it seems like part of the challenge for Major League Baseball and the networks at a national level is, one, is the length of the game. And so, if you live on the East Coast, you're unlikely to stay up for a West Coast game if the East Coast game takes three and a half hours. So, they're addressing the timing challenge. But it seems like it could have a good ripple effect when you think about some of the biggest stars in Major League Baseball are on
Starting point is 00:27:13 the West coast. Yeah. And the idea that I could see possibly the first half of a game with the Mike Trout in, in Anaheim or all the stars, my mini Machado's in San Diego, the Dodgers have a stock team again, and they've been, you know, those have been games that had started on the East coast at 10 PM and end well after midnight. Well, well, well, after 1 AM, there are not a lot of friends of mine in the East Coast that are committed to stay up to the end of those games. One other change since the last time you and I talked, Bob Iger is back as the CEO of Disney. One of the big questions he is being asked about are the company's plans for Hulu. And increasingly, a question he's getting asked about is the fate of ESPN.
Starting point is 00:28:00 What are you hearing? And where do you think this story is going? The question about ESPN has been around for a while, and it's funny because from the early 2000s to right before the pandemic, that's a question that would have been laughed at because ESPN drove that entire business. But with cord cutting and the rights fees that ESPN is paying out, all of a sudden, ESPN's profits are not coming in as wildly steep as they had been. So what Iger has decided to do is, he took Disney and he basically cut it into three different parts. And one of those parts is ESPN. So, ESPN is still a part of Disney, of course, but it's almost like a standalone company right now, where it's responsible for its revenues, for its profits, for its expenditures, and it has to exist on its own.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And people inside ESPN insist to me that that is not a step toward selling this piece of ESPN. Rather, Bob Iger is totally committed to ESPN. Bob Iger and Jimmy Pataro, who runs ESPN, have an extremely close relationship. I would be very surprised if anything happens within the next two years of Disney sort of unwinding ESPN from its books. And not only would I be surprised, but my sources were generally on target would be dead wrong. does the increase of non-traditional broadcast companies apple plus amazon getting into live
Starting point is 00:29:47 sports does that increase the pressure on eiger and his team to get this right a little bit i i will say that that's a trend that i've been writing about a ton because you look at amazon has thursday night football apple of course just did a major league soccer deal i think that there's a big question mark about the appetite for Amazon and for Apple to do these volume deals that ESPN has been known for. Amazon really likes having Thursday night football, one package of one game a week of the NFL. If you look at what Amazon does in England, they have a couple of really unique deals with the English Premier League, including Boxing Day games. On December 26th, every Premier League team plays a game. They bought that package of
Starting point is 00:30:39 games. So you have to go to Amazon to watch that. Amazon isn't particularly interested in having all of the college basketball that ESPN has. You name the sport, all the NBA. They would like an NBA deal, and they would like an NBA package, but they don't want all that volume that ESPN has. And there's also, while there is an unmistakable trend going towards streaming, I will tell you that in 2033, you will be watching the NFL on broadcast television. 2028, the Stanley Cup playoffs, every single game will be available on linear television. The NBA deal that's coming up, they're redoing a deal, their rights are up in 2025. I guarantee you that their championship series will be on broadcast television until the end of that. This isn't a Netflix situation where they pretty much decimated the entertainment programming
Starting point is 00:31:45 on cable. This is a situation where the sports leagues still need that reach that traditional linear television provides. I know you're a proud graduate of the the University of Maryland. So as March Madness heats up, good luck to both the men's and the women's teams. I think I'll be happier with the women's results than the men's. You can hear him every week on the Sports Media Podcast with Andrew Marchand of the New York Post. John Oren, always great talking to you. Thanks for being here. Thanks, Chris. Coming up after the break, Jason Moser and Matt Argesinger return. They got a couple of stocks on their radar, so stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
Starting point is 00:32:26 As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about, and The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against, so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here in studio once again with Matt Argersinger and Jason Moser. We talked earlier in the show about interest rates and what the Fed might be doing next week. Let's face it, when interest rates rise, that is a good thing for certain industries. Our investing team has put together a special report highlighting five stocks they think are fit for this environment right now. It's free just for trying out Motley Fool Stock Advisor, which comes with its own membership feedback
Starting point is 00:33:14 guarantee. You get 30 days to decide whether Stock Advisor is a good fit for you. Even if you cancel, the special report is yours to keep. Just go to fool.com slash interest to get your copy of the report entitled Top Stocks for Rising Interest Rates. Again, go to fool.com slash interest. On Thursday, Google announced the price of YouTube TV is going higher. For those unfamiliar, YouTube TV is Google's answer to cable television subscription packages, and the cost is moving from $65 a month to $73. And, Matt, Google's reason is pretty simple. Content costs are going up, so the price of YouTube TV is going up.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Makes total sense. It does. And I doubt, and we have Jason here, who's a subscriber himself, I doubt many subscribers are going to cut the, I guess, I'm not cutting the cord. What do you do with YouTube TV? Turn off the subscription, yet cut the cord? But anyway, no, I think that's fascinating. And I think, you know, the cable bundle, in a way, has kind of come back a little bit with YouTube TV and Hulu TV and others.
Starting point is 00:34:21 But what I've heard, and I'm not a subscriber, is that it's a much better experience. It's more seamless. It's good quality, good content. And, by the way, we know that YouTube TV won the NFL ticket contract. So, obviously, that's probably going to be an additional cost from what you get just with the basic YouTube TV package. But I'm intrigued by it, and especially to see what kind of impact the pricing increase is going to have. Jason, I don't have YouTube TV, but I'm an Alphabet shareholder, so I approve of this move. Me too, me too. And a small correction, I am a subscriber to Hulu Live.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh, I'm sorry, that's right. But very same thing with the same dynamic playing. Great service, but those costs just continue to go up. I mean, they have raised the price, I think, every year since we started subscribing about six years ago. But we continue to pay it because it is a very good service that gives us access to virtually everything we want to watch. All right, let's get to the stocks on our radar. Our man behind the glass, Dan Boyd, is going to hit you with a question. Matt Argersinger, you're up first. What are you looking at this week?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Chris, I can't take my eyes off Charles Schwab, ticker SCHW. Now, we talked earlier in the show about the regional banks. Charles Schwab is not a regional bank, but it does own a bank and operates a bank. but this is a blue chip company in the brokerage space for investing services. It's an incredibly recognizable brand and incredibly sticky as well. I mean, it's one thing if you're a customer at a bank and you're going to pull your deposits out. Are you going to do that in your brokerage account, in your retirement accounts with Charles Schwab? Probably not. So this makes Schwab's business far more stickier. On the bank that they own and operate, more than 80% of their total bank
Starting point is 00:35:54 deposits fall within FDIC insurance limits. Their bank loan and deposit ratio is just 10%. For the average bank, it's over 60%. So, I don't understand why Schwab is being thrown out in the bathwater, so to speak. It's down more than 30% in a week, essentially five years' worth of gains wiped out in a second. So, it's caught my attention. I'm not saying it's a fantastic opportunity. I'd like to learn more, but it's got my attention. Dan, question about Charles Schwab?
Starting point is 00:36:20 Not really a question, Chris, but I'd like to commend Matt's bravery on picking a $100 billion company for stocks on our radar today. Well, you know, it's not every day, Dan, that a $100 billion company falls 30% in a week. I was going to say, I mean, a week ago, it was much higher than $100 billion. Right. Jason Moser, what are you looking at this week? Yeah, digging a little bit more into Zebra Technologies, ticker ZBRA. Zebra, they provide enterprise asset intelligence solutions. Isn't that a mouthful, Dan? in the automatic identification and data capture industry. Ultimately, the business itself is divided into two parts. There's the asset intelligence and tracking side. They sell
Starting point is 00:37:03 things like the printers that produce those high-quality barcodes and labels. Then you also have the enterprise visibility and mobility segment. They sell mobile computing products, barcode scanners, RFID, that's radio frequency ID, Dan, readers, machine vision, cameras, all sorts of cool stuff. This is a company, they're poised to benefit from strong tailwinds in the coming years when you look at things like IoT, cloud-based data analytics, intelligent automation, mobility, computer vision. I could go on and on, Dan, but I'll stop there. Real quick before I go to Dan, is this one of those businesses that is competing against larger tech companies that have their own
Starting point is 00:37:42 version of what Zebra is doing? I'm thinking about a company like Honeywell. Seems like they would have their version of this. It absolutely can. You definitely will see some homegrown solutions, but it is a very, very big market. Dan, question about Zebra Technologies? Not really a question, again. Sorry, gang. But I'm really loving the trend that Jason is bringing. Kind of boring tech companies that do a good job at what they do to stocks on our radar. You're very welcome, Dan. I mean, we say this all the time, boring is beautiful, right? When it comes to investing, boring is beautiful. Yeah, but I got kind of a backhanded compliment from Dan. Jason got a real compliment. I don't
Starting point is 00:38:21 know how I feel about this. Well, Dan's been storing these up. He's been on leave recently. He's back from that. He's back to form. He's back to form. Dan, two very different businesses. You got one you want to add to your watch list? I'm actually going to go Charles Schwab this time, because you guys are right. Not every day does a $100-plus billion company fall 30% for what feels like not really earned motives or reasons there. So, I think Schwab's very interesting. Right on, Dan. I'm just concerned that when Matt said he can't take his eyes off Charles Schwab, that we're going to get an angry email from Mrs. Schwab. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Man, Chucky is pretty attractive. Old homewrecking Argersinger over here. All right, Jason Moser, Matt Argersinger, guys, thanks so much for being here. Thanks, Chris. That's going to do it for this week's Motley Fool Money radio show. The show is mixed by Dan Boyd. I'm Chris Hill. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.

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