Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - The Future of Real Estate and Retail
Episode Date: May 22, 2020Facebook, MasterCard, and Spotify announce new work-from-home policies. Lowe’s, Home Depot, Target, and Walmart report big growth in same-store sales. The U.S. Senate passes a bill that would impose... new listing requirements for Chinese companies. And Take-Two Interactive hits an all-time high. Motley Fool analysts Emily Flippen and Ron Gross discuss those stories and weigh in on the future of retail and the future of real estate. Our analysts share two stocks on their radar: TJX Companies and Pinduoduo. And Motley Fool analyst Tim Beyers and Motley Fool contributor Dan Kline talk with TiVo CEO Dave Shull about television, streaming video, and the future of TiVo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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It's the Motley Fool Money radio show. I'm Chris Hill. Joining me this week, Emily Flippen and Ron Gross.
Good to see you both.
How you doing, Chris?
We've got the latest headlines from Wall Street.
We will dig into the future of television.
And as always, we've got a few stocks on our radar.
But we begin with the future of the workplace.
This week, MasterCard and Spotify became the latest companies to announce extended working-from-home policies for their employees.
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said many employees at Facebook will work from home permanently.
And with all this new flexibility comes increased safety for the health of those employees and increased risks for the businesses that have depended on big companies having their employees in a single office building.
So, Ron, we haven't really heard yet from the big banks on Wall Street.
You have to imagine they're thinking about this as well.
What does this mean for commercial real estate as well as the restaurants and shops in those urban areas?
Nothing good, Chris. This is going to be a big deal. Commercial real estate's got to be,
I think, the biggest thing that gets impacted as a result of the work-from-home trend.
Companies are inevitably going to reduce their need for office space. Vacancies will increase.
Prices will drop. I think retail bankruptcies that we've been seeing are going to exacerbate
this commercial real estate problem. And it's going to continue for some time.
Interestingly, I think we're also going to see an exodus from cities into suburban locations
from people.
And as folks move out to the suburban areas, we actually could end up seeing a residential
real estate boom out in the suburbs, again, leaving the cities in some type of pain as
a result of increased vacancies that we've already started to see.
As you mentioned, I think restaurants as well, especially those that rely on office parks,
around Fool HQ, for example, we were talking earlier, some of those restaurants are going
to be in real trouble as the amount of people that come to work each day permanently declines.
And as a result, I think we are bound to see permanently less restaurants in the U.S.
I think there will be some positives from the work-from-home trend.
Cars are going to last longer, we're not putting as much mileage on them, there will be a reduced
demand for gas, I think the environment is likely to benefit. So, there are some pros
to this. Apparel is going to change as well, less need for work apparel, less need for
pants, more need for sweatpants and pajamas, but there will, I think, be a change to the
apparel industry as well. Emily, what do you think?
I think what Ron said is true, but there is also another silver lining here that I feel
like not enough people are talking about. It's pets. I mean, there's no way that a permanent
work-from-home trend doesn't result in more pet ownership across the United States. All these
people who are spending hours commuting, living in cities where they didn't have space for pets,
now are living at home, right? Living in the suburbs, living in spaces that allow them to
have cats and dogs. So that could be a wonderful long-term trend that also comes out from this
movement. I hadn't thought of that until you just mentioned it. And now I'm thinking I need to look
at businesses like IDEXX Labs and sort of the pet care industry. Or pet food. Yeah, chewy.
Let's move on to the home improvement industry. Home Depot and Lowe's both out with first quarter
reports this week. Emily, we typically see a similar story with these two. This quarter was
no exception. Higher revenue for Home Depot and Lowe's, but higher costs as well. Yes. Home Depot
and Lowe's typically move in line with each other. So it was really interesting to see them have such
substantially different quarters, despite both existing in the same macro environment this
quarter. So Lowe's had amazing comparable same-store sales. I mean, that was up over 11%.
And that's nearly 5% over where Home Depot's was at 6%. So both were great quarters, but it's weird
that we see such outperformance by Lowe's, especially when typically it goes in Home
Depot's favor. When I think about the tailwinds that both of these companies are experiencing,
I come back to what their core customer is. And Home Depot and Lowe's spent a lot of money this
quarter supporting their employees. But ultimately, the DIY home improvement person, you or I,
is more likely to shop at Lowe's versus contractors, which will typically go to Home Depot.
And they do have some overlap. There's some competition there. But I think that's what we
saw really influencing on Home Depot this quarter, was the fact that a lot of contractors who were
working on big projects didn't come through those projects during this pandemic, whereas the average
person who was sitting at home looking at that hole in the wall, maybe they haven't fixed in a
while, thought they should probably get out to their local Lowe's and improve that.
Yeah, I think it was interesting, the comments that Home Depot made about comp sales, which
In a vacuum, 6% in comp sales is nothing to sneeze at at all, but obviously lows, as Emily
pointed out, fared a bit better. Home Depot said they were accelerating, and that'll be
interesting to see what this next current quarter that we're in, how that shapes up.
Do these even out and become a little bit more the way we've seen in the past, similar
of increases, or is something changing at Lowe's that will continue the outperformance?
You know, we've said in the past, these companies are similar, obviously, we think Home Depot is
probably a little bit better run than Lowe's as a result of trades at a premium, consistently,
the stock trades at a premium. So, for example, now you can buy Lowe's at about 19X earnings,
where you have to pay about 23X earnings for Home Depot, but you're getting a little bit of
a better company. I actually always say, I don't see the need to necessarily choose one or the
other, they're both fine companies to own and you could split the difference. But I do want to see
what kind of acceleration to comp sales Home Depot comes up with in the current quarter.
Well, and one other thing that we've seen from other companies and other industries that
we are not really seeing with Home Depot and Lowe's is the marketing spent. Home Depot and
and Lowe's are traditionally big spenders on advertising, they haven't really ratcheted that
back the way that some companies have. So, that's probably also having a little bit of impact on the
margin picture. But, you know, Emily, to Ron's point about Home Depot typically being a better
run company, Marvin Ellison at Lowe's, I think he's been CEO for nearly two years now, it really
seems like his work is starting to pay off in terms of the way Lowe's is operating.
Yeah. Ellison has made a lot of improvements to Lowe's that are similar to the improvements that
Home Depot has been making over the past five years or so. Digitizing the experience, making
it easier for people to sign up for loyalty programs, really improving on the omni-channel
experience for shopping at Lowe's. Ultimately, if you go to a Home Depot's, there's probably a Lowe's
within a stone's throw distance and vice versa is true for Lowe's. There is a lot more price
competition there and customer competition there than there is in other industries.
But these two companies, to Ron's point, are the two dogs in the home development space. There
really is no other competition. I think there's value in owning a basket. I do think that Ellison
has more to prove with Lowe's than Home Depot needs to prove though.
Shares of Walmart and Target flat this week as the two major retailers issued
their first quarter reports. Ron, there are a bunch of different ways we can go here,
but I'll just start by saying, Walmart and Target putting up same-store sales growth
of 10% to 11% is pretty impressive. Very impressive. There are similar
stories here, right up until you get to the bottom line, but let's talk about the similarities first.
both saw revenue increases, Walmart 9%, Target 11%. As you said, both had comp sale increases
in the 10% range, Walmart doing just a little bit worse than Target, Target at 10.8% and Walmart at
10%. Big numbers there. Obviously, the beneficiary of being open, being a necessary business while
other businesses got shut down, and then really taking advantage along with folks like Costco.
very strong online sales, as you would expect. Walmart up 74%, Target up 141%,
different bases, obviously. But Target, I think, their investments that they've made over the last
few years in same-day delivery and pickup, really paying off, seeing the same-day business up 278%,
a huge number, obviously, aided by the crisis that we're all being impacted by.
both had to spend a ton of dough as a result of COVID-related costs and wages to keep employees.
Walmart put the cost at about $900 million, targeted at about $500 million. Margins were
lower for both companies as a result of those lower margin items like food being sold and some
of the higher margin items like apparel being weak. But then when you get to the bottom line,
you see that Walmart was kind of able to absorb these extra costs quite a bit better with earnings
per share up 5% versus Target getting kind of whacked there down about 60% on an earnings per
share basis. No guidance from either company, but they're both really strong companies. I expect
them to continue to execute well even when the country reopens and they're not necessarily the
only game in town, but they will be one of the winners of this retail shakeout that we've been
talking about. I wouldn't want to downplay the importance of the permanent changes in habits
that will come from people who have adjusted their grocery or food delivery to different
platforms as a result of this pandemic. If I can bring everybody back to the beginning of 2020,
when Walmart spent millions of dollars on their Super Bowl ad, reminding people that they had
grocery pickup in most of their locations. I was one of the people who laughed and said,
maybe that was a waste of money. The people who are ultimately shopping at Walmart are aware
of the fact that they do grocery pickup, but that money as it's been proven out over the past few
months was well spent. I think people who have made a shift to grocery pickup are probably more
likely to retain those habits once this pandemic is over than we may have given them credit for
a few months ago. Ron, just real quick on the apparel
question. Obviously, apparel, a higher margin item. Target has made investments in apparel.
It really seems like, I'm not looking to add pressure to CEO Brian Cornell, but it really
seems like they are set up to succeed in a future where we're wearing fewer suits and more casual
clothing. They are very well positioned here. They've brought designer brands in-house. They've
private-labeled some. The designers they brought in, they've created a new price point for
those designers who have been willing to dilute their brand and sell more to the masses at
a value proposition, a value point that lots of folks can afford. They make absolutely
fine clothes at a reasonable price. I think that continues. I think they continue to steal
business from some of those retail apparel companies that are either going to reduce
their footprint or perhaps even go out of business.
Are Chinese stocks in danger of being delisted? That story is next. Stay right here.
You're listening to Motley Fool Money. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris
Hale here with Emily Flippen and Ron Gross. On Wednesday, the U.S. Senate passed a bill
that could force Chinese companies to give up their listings on American stock exchanges,
coincidentally, or not. Wednesday was also the day that shares of Luckin Coffee resumed trading.
Luckin had been halted in the wake of an accounting scandal and shares down more than
40% this week. Emily, we're getting a lot of questions about this issue. I mean, obviously,
the House of Representatives would still need to take this up and then it would need to go
to the president, but this seemed like a pretty strong signal. Yes, this is Senate Bill 945,
and it actually had bipartisan support in the Senate. This bill would essentially say that
any foreign listed company in the U.S., and this is really targeting Chinese companies since they
have been made offenders, would need to certify that they are not controlled or owned by foreign
governments and then also get the public company accounting oversight board to audit their financial
statements or have an auditing firm that is approved by the PCAOB. So this would be a big
change in response to how Chinese companies are listed in the U.S. exchanges today. They do escape
some of the oversight from the Securities and Exchange Commission because the Chinese government
is one of those governments that says the financial information of our companies is relatively
proprietary. Now, as you mentioned, Chris, this would need to be taken up in the House of
Representatives and approved, then voted on by President Trump. It's also worth noting that
this, as you mentioned, is in connection with Luckin. It's not a coincidence that this bill
is proposed around the same time that Luckin Coffee is being delisted from the Nasdaq here
in the U.S. because of fraud allegations. So, Chinese companies are definitely being
targeted right now. This is not something to be overly panicked about. There would be a three-year
period as proposed in the Senate bill for these companies to essentially come into compliance with
this new law. It would also need to be passed by the House of Representatives. But if these
Chinese companies weren't able to come into compliance, then they would potentially list
themselves on other exchanges, Hong Kong, London potentially, which would prevent American
investors from being able to get exposure. Is it possible they could list on the
Toronto Exchange? It is possible. It only applies to
U.S. exchanges, and this includes the over-the-counter exchange, the OTC,
or pink sheets market here in the U.S. So, the New York Stock Exchange, the NASDAQ,
and the over-the-counter exchanges. Neiman Marcus and JCPenney are just two of the retailers that
have filed for bankruptcy so far this year. And Macy's CEO, Jeff Gannett, sees an opportunity.
Gannett said this week there's $10 billion worth of sales up for grabs in the retail landscape.
He's not wrong, Ron, but can Macy's be one of the retailers to capitalize on this?
They could potentially be able to capture a small portion, I think the lion's share
will go to stronger retailers. Right off the bat, you know, the few that we always talk
about as being the survivors here, Walmart, Target, Costco, Amazon will get the lion's
share and then the rest can, kind of, divvy it up. I don't think it's going to be, kind
of, the savior for companies like Macy's that are struggling. And, you know, these department
stores, you know, we just saw JCPenney, obviously, recently file bankruptcy finally.
As you mentioned, lots of other folks, Pier One, J.Crew, Neiman Markets, Stage Stores,
and lots of smaller ones that we don't talk about or really don't hear that much about.
And that's going to continue.
So, sure, there is going to be a demand from the consumer for these items still, but I
think it's going to continue to be the big guys that benefit.
Emily, do you think we see, I mean, I think we all think we're going to see more retailers
going out of business. Do you see retailers essentially spinning off part of their brands
just so that the remaining business can survive? We see some retailers doing that right now,
right? So, JCPenney has potentially talked about spinning off their retail brand versus
the real estate aspects of the company. But it's worth noting that the underlying economics or
demand trends that exist don't change just because you spend something off. Ultimately,
all of these retailers have really struggled with merchandising. Trying to predict what people are
going to want to buy and in what quantities and in what colors next season has been this struggle
that companies like JCPenney and Macy's have been put up against, which has really supported
discount retailers, which happen just to take excess inventory. They're not trying to make
any predictions about where the market will be a season or two from now. That produces a much
lower cost model. And there's really not much that a lot of these traditional retailers can do
to completely change their business model at this point. Shares of Take-Two Interactive hit an all
time high this week as the video game company wrapped up its fiscal year. Fourth quarter
revenue up more than 40%. Emily, this is a great quarter and really a great 12 months for Take-Two.
And most people can assume why it was such a great 12 months for the company,
because this pandemic has caused a lot of people to play games that weren't necessarily
playing games before. Take-Two has an amazing collection of really great brand names,
including Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead Redemption, Borderlands. These are stalwarts in the gaming
industry that are not going away anytime soon. Take-Two Interactive has had impressive recurring
revenue growth. Interestingly enough, Epic Games released Grand Theft Auto for free for
a lot of people, which could potentially increase the in-app purchases for Take-Two next quarter,
so a lot of things going Take-Two's way. All right, Emily Flippen, Ron Gross,
we will see you later in the show. Up next, a conversation about the future of television
with TiVo CEO, Dave Schull. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
Chris Hill Welcome back to Motley Fool Money, I'm Chris Hill. There was a point in time when
the hottest name in consumer electronics was TiVo. Today, it's fair to ask, is TiVo still around?
That's the question Dave Scholl asked before he became CEO. He'd already been an executive at
Dish Network and The Weather Channel. Recently, Dave Scholl talked about TiVo's business and
future with Motley Fool analyst, Tim Beyers, and contributor, Dan Kline, who kicked off
the conversation. Dan Kline, Jr.: Dave, to set the stage here,
and I cleared this question first because I didn't want to come off as glib, but there
was a point where TiVo was a pop culture company. There were jokes on late night TV, because
you've watched The Simpsons, you would like to watch the Jetsons. TiVo has 10 trademarked
noises. And some of those noises were actually like, you know, the beep boops that everybody
knew. And the company does not have that profile right now. Can you set the table for sort of what
TiVo is compared to what it used to be? And I'm excited about where it's going and share a little
bit about where it's going. So, it's interesting. When I talked to the company, my first question
was, are they still around? This amazing heritage of innovation goes back more than 20 years. It's
like, damn, that's pretty cool. But the company's changed a lot. We've done 10 acquisitions in the
last 15 years. We've had four CEOs. When I first came in, we had four CEOs in eight quarters. So
things have changed a lot. And there was a lot of sort of turmoil. What people don't understand is
there's maybe a million people out there who have TiVos. And I love those fans because they're so
tied to the technology. And they can tell me sort of the 20 years of history on our tech.
But we've got sort of the broader business. We have 22 million households around the world
that are using TiVo technology, but they're doing it through their cable company.
They may not realize that it's actually TiVo technology that's powering that,
but $22 million around the world is pretty broad.
And so that's really the bread and butter of the company.
Where are we going?
When I said, listen, we've got to get in on the streaming wars.
And so today we announced this product, TiVo Stream 4K,
which puts us kind of squarely into the streaming wars
and is really the future of the company.
Now, so I looked at the 4K, and I'm very excited to order one. But I would like to hear,
is this you taking on Roku? Like, is that sort of, you know, are you throwing down the gauntlet
going after, you know, Amazon, Roku, the other players in this space? Or is it a little bit of
a differentiated product? And just to add to that, Dave, before you answer that,
you have a partnership with Roku, if I understand right. So if you can sort of paint the whole
picture here. This is kind of, cause it's a little strange and it would be really great to get like
the whole picture there. So there's gotta be a little bit of Roku envy. I think, I think those
guys have done, Anthony there has just done an absolutely amazing job, right? You look at his
market cap, 15, I don't know what it is today, but 14, $15 billion. Our market cap is a little
bit less than a billion dollars. They've done a phenomenal job. So kudos to them. But I do think
There's really a missed opportunity, which is when you look at the Roku device, it's easy to install, it plugs into your TV, but what it does is it gives you a bunch of different apps. And you have to remember, is that on Netflix, or is that on Hulu, or is that on Prime, or Sling TV? When we look at our research, on average, people have seven different apps that they're trying to manage. And it could be an advertising-based on-demand service, it could be a Netflix, or a Prime, or a Hulu. Where's that show? Where do I find it?
And so we think that's a missed opportunity in the streaming space.
And so because we have decades of experience dealing with complex content recommendations,
we can say, you know what?
It's not about the apps.
It's really about the shows.
And so what I want to know is what show do I want to watch now?
And we have all the metadata.
We have all the content recommendations and the algorithms.
So we can say, hey, we're going to bring all your entertainment together and we're going
to make it really easy for you to find the show that you want to watch and you don't
have to remember what app is out there.
That's the magic of TiVo Stream. When I look at the financials of the company,
the biggest part of your business is intellectual property and licensing. You're primarily a
software company here. It sounds like what you're doing here is building out an operating system
of sorts, a layer on top of all of these services that is consumer-friendly, intended to be consumer
friendly that organizes the mess that otherwise exists yeah so that's that's fair let me kind of
back up at a higher level and talk about tivo as a company if that makes sense right yeah right so
650 million in revenue roughly 227 million dollars in ebitda right and we've given project i'm in the
middle of closing a merger so we've given very specific projections in the proxy so i would
direct the investors to that proxy s4 but it's roughly half and half intellectual property and
a half product. And so on the intellectual property side, there's a base of about 5,000
patents. And we license those patents out. And those patents go back decades. Any place where
you see people playing video in some sort of linear stream fashion or targeting ads around
video, we have some pretty good intellectual property claims. And so vast majority of pay-to-be
operators, certainly in North America, but also in Europe and in Asia, license our patent portfolio
for that. On the product side, we're the TiVo consumer base, this million loyal customers that
we have tied to the DVR. And many of these people have very high-end complex sort of TV systems.
And so that's really the value of the technology. We then have built out a software stack, to your
point, that's in 22 million households around the world, where we've deployed sort of the best of
all the TiVo know-how and put that in place for the consumers to experience that, but in a
traditional cable setting. We're now taking the best of all that and we're synthesizing all that
down to a $49 dongle that you can just plug into the back of your TV and any content that's
available on the Android TV platform is immediately sort of integrated and gives you recommendations
across live TV. So we have a very unique partnership with Sling TV, on-demand content,
Netflix, Prime, Hulu, and then also all the AVOD content, Tubi, Zumo, and now Pluto.
And so, basically, it's kind of the culmination of, okay, intellectual property invented stuff,
it got deployed in millions of set-top boxes around the world, and now we're saying,
how do we distill the best of that software platform down to this dongle that we call TiVo
Stream? Let me ask the business question. So, Roku makes money from, if I don't have Netflix,
and the first time I subscribe to Netflix, I do it through my Roku box or dongle or whatever
device I have, I have all of them, they make a cut of money. Do you have the same relationship
with some of the brands? If I've never been a Sling customer and I sign up through them,
I am a Sling customer, and I sign up, do you get a cut of the money?
Yes. Simple answer is, again, I think Roku has done a brilliant job of trailblazing here.
We make very little money on the hardware, which is why it's $49.99 for a product that's 4K and
Dolby and a bunch of other stuff. It's an amazing little piece of hardware for that price,
which means that we have to make money in the future and so the way we make money in the future
is is a cut of your additional subscriptions but also most of these avod services like tubi and
zumo and pluto are ad based and so there's some revenue sharing there because what they want is
they want an engaged consumer in our view is consumers can't process 50 000 titles and so
that recommendation engine on top of the metadata makes it much more likely that someone's actually
going to watch that show and so it's a valuable relationship for both us and for the provider
Tim, I'll let you jump in with the real business questions, but I have one more question.
I live in a house with a 16-year-old and my wife, who is also my age, and we all have very
different television choices. We need one device per person. Are there multiple accounts on the
same device? How does that work? Right now, the devices are intelligent
by room and by time of day. What we haven't done is we haven't layered another set of profiles on
top of that, right? So the box in my office knows that I'm sitting here at this time and it knows
that it's kind of my box, right? So if I'm going to put another one up in the playroom where the
kids are, and so it will have very different content recommendations for them based on the
time of day because it knows it's a different box. We're looking at profiles in the future,
but we're trying hard to make it a really, really simple interface. And so we think lots of people
provide recommendations. Very few companies actually provide recommendations based on time
a day. That's a proxy for profiles because the view and habits tend to be very different
at five o'clock at night versus 10 o'clock at night.
Just for context here and maybe to oversimplify things a little bit, I think
most of us who followed TiVo in the past know that you have some patents that are related
to the four-letter words you were relating to the DVRs and so forth. But there are probably
a lot that we don't really know about that are TiVo innovations. I'd like to invite you to maybe
give us two or three that are patented technology that TiVo introduced that people just gloss over
and we don't realize that's TiVo technology. Give us a couple of examples of that.
Well, I would say a lot of the voice technology that you use today when you talk to your set-top
box actually originated with TiVo. We would argue that some of the companies that maybe haven't
license our technology that i'm not gonna name names at this point but you can kind of impute
based on what we just talked about actually their voice capabilities from our voice patents
and so we we provide voice technology around the world actually much more than the 22 million
households that i talked about because we actually have a know-how and a dedicated team that's
focused on that um so when you're when you're what's interesting about the tevo voice product
we call it conversation is is you can say hey what's on what's on tonight right so so it has
to understand what's on TV tonight and that I'm talking about entertainment content. No,
I actually want a comedy, comedy from the 80s, right? Something with Tom Hanks. It wasn't the
one where he was on an island, right? And it starts to bury down to that. And you can have
that contextual conversation is really unique. Now, we're not magicians. The way we're able to
do that is we understand we're talking about entertainment and we have a very, very deep
understanding of the metadata and sort of the linkages between all of these different assets
based on our knowledge base.
And so there's a lot of IP tied to that.
And we think there's some strong claims
around that as well.
So Dave, is your vision on the TiVo side
to eventually just organize everything,
the mass of content,
whether it be podcasts or video
or YouTube videos
or all the other things
to just provide sort of a blueprint
in order for people?
Is that sort of the bigger, grander plan?
Yeah, I think so.
So our tagline,
which they're always a little bit trite, right?
You got to blend the marketing.
But I actually kind of like it.
Our tagline is bringing all your entertainment together, making it easy to find, watch, and enjoy.
And so there's two parts to that statement, really.
One is we do want to bring all of your entertainment together in one place.
And then we want to make that finding process easy.
And so we think there's a lot of challenges in the streaming world right now.
And so we want to solve that for you.
Where do you think the bulk of your business is?
Like, let's talk about the future here.
We're five years ahead, and TiVo and Xperia have merged.
where is the business coming from you know five five years from now is this you know the wind's
at your back because of cord cutting where's where is your growth coming from five years from now if
you had to you know cast a vision for for what we as investors want to be looking for if we're if
we're investing in your company so i think the the future is still to the plan is to split the ip
business away from the product business and i think what that does is that gives you a a team
that's very, very focused on building up intellectual property as an engine and making
it recurring. And then the product team is not having to deal with litigation. They're very
focused on sort of new innovative products. So when you look at the product side, I think the
future is very much, you know, hopefully TiVo or some version of the TiVo experience is embedded
across hundreds of millions of devices, right? Whether it's a TV or whether it's an automobile.
And I think that very quickly becomes a very light software only solution, doesn't require
any hardware changes, I think that's really the win. Because I think there's a proliferation of
streaming content that is going to continue over the next couple of years. And I think consumers
love having that choice. And they love having a free choice, which is AVOD. So if you look at,
you know, investors may or may not attract it, but Pluto was sold to ViacomCBS, 2BTV was sold to
Fox, Zumo was sold to NBC, right? So these are all free-to-consumer advertising-based
on-demand services. And so consumers love that model. And then they're still willing to pay a
premium for unique content like Netflix and Prime and Hulu. In that five-year future then, in this
area where TiVo as a technology is pervasive, does that mean TiVo also is bringing you exclusive
content as well? Like programmed shows? I think that's something we want to avoid. And the reason
why I say that is I think our value in this new world is not shows, right? NBC and Fox and CBS
are always going to be able to out-produce us. And our value is if we have the best user interface,
the best content recommendations, the easiest way to find new shows, then we provide value to the
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Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here with Emily Flippen and Ron Gross.
Our email address is radioatfool.com. I've got a question from Nick in Canada who writes,
I can't begin to thank you and the rest of the analysts at The Motley Fool
for everything you've taught me. My financial life has been completely changed by you.
I'm a very dedicated listener to many of The Motley Fool podcasts. Thank you, Nick. We
appreciate that. He goes on, I had a question about spend allocation between ETFs and individual
stocks. I've heard a few different analysts at The Motley Fool mention they think it's a good idea
to be buying both shares of an ETF and individual stocks. So my question is,
what would be the appropriate split between these two? Ron, for those unfamiliar with ETFs?
Exchange-traded funds trade just like stocks, but they are baskets of stocks. You can buy the S&P
500, the Russell 2000, technology ETFs, commodity ETFs, any strategy you want to pursue. There is
a basket of stocks waiting for you to buy. It's just like buying or selling a stock,
Unlike a mutual fund, which only trades once a day at the close of the market at 4 p.m.
I think it's a great question. I'm a big fan of ETFs.
When I tell people that about 50% of my personal portfolio is in ETFs, they're often surprised.
Now, that's a little bit skewed because of my 401 is primarily in ETFs.
So, if you strip that out, I'm about 25% ETFs, 75% individual stocks.
I don't think there necessarily is the right number.
I think a person could have 100% of their portfolio in ETFs if they wanted to, if they
were not the type of person that liked to pick stocks and follow stocks. So I also don't think
it depends necessarily on age either. I think either way is fine to go, depending on how much
attention you want to give to your portfolio. Emily? I would generally agree. I've also been
open about the fact that a lot of my assets, virtually all of my retirement funds are in
index funds, not necessarily ETFs, but funds that track the market. It's because I don't like the
volatility in a lot of the funds that I know I'm going to need to retire with, for instance.
But everything else that I invest in is in individual stocks. And that's a totally personal
preference, mostly because I know that if I have my individual assets that are volatile on a daily
basis, invested in Chinese companies, cannabis companies, whatever you put into it, I know that
that money goes away, I still have my retirement funds. So without digressing too much into my
personal finances, I don't think there is a right answer. I think it depends on you and your personal
risk tolerance. All right, let's get to the stocks on our radar. Our man Dan Boyd's going to hit you
with a question. Ron Gross, you're up first. What are you looking at this week? Speaking of discount
retailers earlier in the show, I'm going to go with TJX Companies, ticker symbol TJX,
retailer best known for TJ Maxx, Marshalls, and HomeGoods, focused on a wide assortment at very
competitive prices for its customers. Obviously, this last Q1 was a mess, sales down 52%, stores
were closed. As of May 2nd, stores have started to reopen, 1,600 open so far out of about 4,500.
Importantly, the company is seeing sales above last year's for those reopened stores. All things
being equal, we may be back to a growth mode. Balance sheet is strong thanks to a $4 billion
float of notes. They did suspend their first quarter dividend and probably their second
quarter. But before that, they had 23 years of consecutive dividend increases with a compound
growth rate of 22%. Dan, question about TJX? Certainly. Ron, so when I was a kid, my mom would
take me and my brother on shopping trips to the TJ Maxx in Springfield, Virginia, and I remember
it as being a very boring time. What can be done to make shopping at TJ Maxx more exciting for
children? Well, it's commonly thought of as kind of this treasure hunt experience. You walk in,
it's almost like looking at a tornado of clothes. They're everywhere, and you got to find exactly
what's right for you at the right price. So think of it as a little bit of a treasure hunt.
Emily Flippen, what are you looking at? I'm looking at a Chinese company called
Pinduoduo, the ticker is PDD. They reported this week and had a really impressive sales,
especially as compared to Alibaba, which didn't quite meet expectations. They had a 42%
year-over-year increase in active buyers on their e-commerce platform. Impressively,
they had nearly as many active buyers as Alibaba, so they've scaled up really quickly in China.
Dan? Yeah, Emily,
the Senate bill doesn't give you any pause with a company like this?
It may in the future, but right now, no. Two very different businesses, Dan. You
got one you want to add to your watch list? You know what? As much as I remember
those times in TJ Maxx and I didn't really enjoy myself, I got to go with the discount retailers
on this one. So, Ron, you're the winner. Nice, finally.
All right. Ron Gross, Emily Flippen, thanks for being here.
Thanks, Chris. Thanks for having me.
That's going to do it for this week's edition of Motley Fool Money. Our engineer is Dan Boyd,
Our producer is Mac Greer. Chris Hill, thanks for listening. We will see you next week.
