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Episode Date: September 1, 2017Businesses deal with Hurricane Harvey's impact. Wells Fargo reports more fake accounts. Lululemon reports surprising earnings. Gilead Sciences makes a big buy. And Match hits a new high as Tinder heat...s up. Plus, Motley Fool co-founder Tom Gardner talks small caps and shares some insights from the brand-new edition of The Motley Fool Investment Guide. Thanks to Casper for supporting The Motley Fool. Save $50 on a mattress at http://www.casper.com/fool and use the promo code "fool". Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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It's the Motley Fool Money Radio Show. I'm Chris Hill. Joining me in studio this week
from Million Dollar Portfolio, Matt Argesinger. From Supernova, David Kretzmann. And from
Motley Fool Pro and Options, Jeff Fischer. Good to see you, as always, gentlemen.
Hey, hey, hey, Chris.
We've got the latest headlines from Wall Street. Motley Fool CEO Tom Gardner is our guest.
And as always, we'll give you an inside look at the stocks on our radar. But we begin this
week with Hurricane Harvey. The financial impact is still being assessed, but some estimates
are putting the economic toll at upwards of $200 billion. And, Matty, given the size
of Houston and the outlying areas, maybe we shouldn't be surprised by that.
It is on track to be the most costly natural disaster in American history, much
bigger than Katrina, about three times the cost of Hurricane Sandy, which we know hit
New Jersey and a lot of the East Coast. It's incredible. And, by the way, the majority
of that, especially on the residential side, is going to be in uninsured losses. Because,
As we know, 95% of the damage was caused by flooding, which is just an extra devastation
to the cost of this storm. Silver lining to this, if there's anything, is that I think
the government's probably going to kick in some aid. There's probably going to be years
of rebuilding, which is going to boost the economy in the medium to long-term. And of
course, tens of thousands of households around Houston are probably going to be buying a
car in the next few months, just because those cars tend to be fully insured, obviously.
There was somewhere on the order of 500,000 cars, I believe, that were destroyed in the storm.
On the flip side, though, David, you look at those day-to-day businesses,
you think about restaurants, all of those, that's business, that's not coming back.
Yeah, certainly going to be a dent for at least several months this year,
and potentially longer, just depending on what the aftermath of this storm looks like.
Kudos to Texas Roadhouse, which is one, I think, of many restaurants that are opening
their doors, giving people food, giving them a place to be and get a hot meal. And to Matt's
point, talking about cars, CarMax, which is the nation's largest used car retailer, they're
already saying, yeah, we're definitely trying to get a lot of extra inventory to our stores
in that Houston area.
To name just two other names, Starbucks has Houston as a top 10 or so city. It's one of
their most populated locations for stores, store numbers. And as you said, Chris, the
sales that they lost this week, and for weeks to come, will not come back. It's a hit.
So, we're going to hear a lot of companies. O'Reilly Automotive is another one with a
lot of locations in Houston. Next quarter, on their conference calls, they're going to
be saying, and very legitimately, that this affected business.
All right, let's move on to the other headlines of the week, and we'll start with the big
deal in the biotech industry. Gilead Sciences bought Kite Pharma for $12 billion in cash.
That was a 29% premium on where Kite had been. Jeff, I have to assume investors like this
deal because Gilead Sciences wrote a $12 billion check, and their stock is still up 10% on
this deal. Yeah, it was a good week, Chris.
For several quarters, maybe even a few years, investors have been waiting for Gilead to
make an acquisition. The company even slowed down its share buybacks and conserved cash.
We knew something big was coming, and $12 billion is pretty big, although it will not
add to earnings. It'll be neutral to the company's earnings for at least three years. Then they
hope for it to add to earnings. The reason is Kite Pharma, ticker was K-I-T-E, still
is right now, is only an experimental stage company. It has more than 20 trials going,
but they're all early stage trials. They are pioneering immunotherapy to treat cancer patients.
That's where you use a patient's own immune cells to fight the cancer. In one instance,
remove a patient's T-cells and alter them, and then put them back into the body to fight
the cancer. So, it's fascinating technology that we all should hope does very well.
Now, this week as well, Chris, Novartis had the first U.S.-approved immunotherapy cancer
treatment approved by the FDA, just this week. And that's when Gilead Shares really took
off, because they just made this acquisition in a leading company of that same sort of
technology. I was going to say, because Gilead
Sciences and Christine Harjes, who's one of the hosts of our Industry Focus podcast, made
this point. You talked about how they've been conserving cash. Christine made the point
that there'd been a pretty steady and growing drumbeat from analysts saying to them, like,
when are you going to buy someone? When are you going to buy another company?
Definitely. It reminded me, in the conference calls the past many quarters, of Apple
for years, like, hey, where's your watch? Where's your wearable? And every quarter,
Tim Cook is like, we're working on it. And they did a good job, I think. Gilead as well.
Looks like they made a smart acquisition, a deep pipeline for not an outrageous price.
But Chris, still what's going to drive the stock the next three years is going to be
the hepatitis market and the HIV market. That's still where Gilead's hat is hanging.
Last year, Wells Fargo was discovered to have created two million fake checking
accounts for customers. Upon further review by an outside auditor, Wells Fargo raised
that number to 3.5 million fake accounts. And Matt, Wall Street was completely unfazed
by this. Stock didn't drop at all.
I know. It's disappointing. And I think Josh Brown, who is a popular financial blogger,
he's on CNBC, he's a money manager, a great analyst, I think he put it best on Twitter
yesterday. He said, if Wells Fargo was a community bank or any other small business, they'd be
driven out and their executives jailed. I absolutely believe that. But because it's
Wells Fargo, because it's a major bank, a major financial center, and because of the
number of accounts, if you think about it, and the fees that were taken in are so tiny
relative to the bank's total accounts and the bank's overall revenue, I do expect this
issue to get swept away. And even the $185 million fine that was imposed last year, if
that gets doubled, it's still a slap on the wrist.
O' That's pocket change.
This company, Wells Fargo, made $22 billion in profits last year. I think what's
What's fascinating to me, and we talked about this before the show, is that Wells Fargo,
10 years ago, certainly during and even after the financial crisis, we looked at Wells Fargo
as this bastion of a quality, good, safe bank, compared to all the dreck that was out there.
And it's amazing to see that the reputation has totally been sullied. Wells Fargo is now
the bad actor among the big banks. Fascinating.
So true. We owned it in Motley Fool Pro for that reason, the same reason Warren
Buffett owns it, is the reputation. It's solid, it's clean. And when this broke last year,
we sold the stock on the argument that more roaches would come to light. That's certainly
been true not only this week, but in prior weeks as well with other scandals. And yet,
the stock is holding up just fine. This week, Best Buy reported better
than expected second quarter profits in revenue, and enthusiasm for those great results got
doused by a bucket of cold water from an unexpected source. Best Buy's CEO, Hubert Jolie, said
on the conference call that Best Buy's better-than-expected same-store sales were not a new normal, and
shares quickly went south, David.
Deflating his own bubble there.
He really did.
Enjoyed his five minutes in the limelight. That was in his prepared remarks, too. He
closed it out.
He was trying to pull an Elon Musk. Musk is always talking down Tesla's stock, and it
doesn't work.
Right, yeah. So, maybe that's a good thing for Best Buy going forward. But there
are some things to like here with Best Buy, even though he was basically saying that we're
not expecting to have mid-single-digit same-store sales going forward. That was an outlier with
this quarter. But their domestic online comparable sales were up 31%. They're on track to bring
in over $5 billion online this year. And they still control close to a third of the U.S.
electronics market. So, they are still the top dog in terms of market share.
And what will be interesting to watch going forward is that they're in the process of
rolling out their in-home advisor, basically an in-home consultation service nationwide.
So, they're rolling that out this month, actually, in basically every major U.S. city. This is
where people for free will go into your home and basically evaluate your home for any smart
electronic devices, TVs, upcoming electronic installations. So, certainly, a bit of a business
model shift there for Best Buy, but I think to stay relevant in the age of Amazon, that's
probably the type of thing they need to be doing.
Well, it's the age of Amazon and it's the age of the increasingly complex home.
If you think about, not just devices that we have, but also the advent of the smart
home, I don't know, I kind of feel like if Best Buy can get the service part of this
right, that could be a great opportunity, because a lot of people, in the same way that
a lot of people don't want to do their own taxes, a lot of people don't want to deal
with super-complex devices.
And Amazon itself is also testing that in-home consultation, I think in Seattle
and just a couple other cities, so I think Best Buy getting out in front of that, getting
in front of Amazon with that same service, that's probably a smart move.
Yeah, and it'll definitely be a long-term trend, because you're going to want
to tie together your security, your thermostat, your sound system, your everything in your
smart home, and that's going to be a long process.
Do you think there was any conversation between Joe Lee and the head of investor
relations before they put out that statement? At any point, do you think another executive
said, no, no, no, this has been a really good quarter, please don't ruin this with honesty?
Enjoy our moment in the limelight. Yeah, who knows? Next quarter, hopefully, he's
debriefed beforehand. It could just be, look, really
under-promise and over-deliver in the quarters ahead, you know, maybe.
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Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. Chris Hill here in studio with Matt Argersinger,
Jeff Fischer, and David Kretzmann. Lululemon Athletica, getting it done on Friday. Second
quarter profits and revenue came in higher than expected, and the company raised guidance.
Shares rising, Matty, and with good reason. Well, I'm not so sure, Chris.
Really? I'm not so sure.
On the surface, this looks great. This checks all the boxes.
I'm a human being. I dug in a little bit. So, if you look at the total comparable source
sales up 7%, which, in this environment, great number. A lot of companies don't do this,
but Lululemon includes e-commerce in that number. So, if you strip out the 29% increase
in e-commerce, comparable store sales are up just 2%. And by the way, that 29% online
number, most of that was propelled by a one-time online warehouse sale they did in July. You
take that out, e-commerce was up about 15%. So, I'm pouring a little cold water here on
Lululemon. I don't mean to, but look, you can't dismiss the positive comps, especially
when you're talking about apparel retailing, and especially when you're talking about the
athletic category, which has just been decimated. So, I think there's a uniqueness to Lululemon.
They have that direct customer relationship that a lot of these sports retailing outfits
don't have. You can find Nike, Under Armour, Adidas, really every major sports retailer
and department store. That's not the same for Lululemon. That said, they're targeting
$4 billion in revenue by 2020. Stock today trades, after this rise, about two times that
and about 30 times earnings. I think investors are pricing in quite a rebound, and I'm not
sure it's actually quite there yet. You mentioned athletic apparel, and
let's stick with that for a second. On Tuesday, Finish Line, which is a sports retailer, shares
fell nearly 30% after they cut guidance. Last month, we had the CEO of Dick's Sporting Goods
coming out and saying that the sports part of the retail industry is in panic mode. His words,
panic mode? I'm sensing a theme here. Can't anybody here play this game? How is it that
there's an industry where there are no winners whatsoever? That's the mystifying part to me.
It's not that there are any of them struggling. It's that it appears that all of them appear to
be losing. And I can't figure out how there's not one sports retailer out there that's doing
a halfway decent job of operating.
Yeah, I think the challenge for any of these specialty retailers, and especially these
sports retailers, is you need a reason to get people into the store. A lot of this stuff
is just easily purchased online. You probably don't need someone to come to your home and
give a consultation on what baseball glove to buy or what shirt to buy. So I think that's
one headwind when you have a base of stores that really starts to bog you down. I will
say that I think Finish Line and Dick's, they're certainly in a better position than Sports
Authority was. A year or two ago, when Sports Authority was loading up on debt, they had over
a billion dollars in debt, and they just got to a point where they had to go into bankruptcy to
move forward. And compared to some other specialty retailers or department stores like Macy's and
Kohl's, which have over $4 billion in net debt total, Finish Line and Dick's, they do have a
little bit more flexibility, because they are still producing positive free cash flow. They
generally have pretty healthy balance sheets. So they have some flexibility to navigate these
waters and try to find something that sticks. But they need to find a reason to get people
into those stores. Sports apparel makes up so much of
their sales. You only need a basketball every once in a while, but you need new shirts frequently.
And so many of those sales are going direct online, as you guys talked about with Nike
going direct to the consumer. And then, so many traditional apparel retailers are adding
sports apparel as well. So, you're getting squeezed on two sides.
Match Group is the parent company of Match.com, Tinder, and a host of other dating
businesses. Shares of Match hitting a record high this week after it unveiled a monthly
subscription service called Tinder Gold. They're charging $5 a month, Jeff. I'm assuming either
a lot of people signed up immediately, or there is a lot of enthusiasm for the prospects
of Tinder Gold. Yeah, I'm a little surprised how much
the stock did rise this week, just on that news, because it's pretty minor. I'm not a
Match user. I don't know that any of us here are. But you know, when Facebook, about a
year before ... Well, you're married, I'm married, and
Matty is married. So, maybe David should be the one weighing in here.
I've dabbled, but not currently. A year before Facebook came public,
I joined Facebook to research it, and I've been a happy user since. And I couldn't make
that same argument with Match, so I don't know the service that well. But Tinder Gold
is an add-on to Tinder+, where you already subscribe and pay for benefits, such as getting
to issue more likes of people each day, getting to rewind and change your mind on decisions,
getting a passport so you can look in other geographies for matches. Tinder Gold, for
$5 a month, you get more control of your profile, you get to see who likes you, which I never
realized they keep you from seeing that unless there's a match, but with Tinder+, you can
who likes you, so that sounds kind of compelling. But anyway, the stock really did run on this
news. But it's not that expensive. It trades at 30X earnings, 25X forward estimates. It's
an interesting story, but not a real game changer.
I think it's time to ring in our man behind the glass, Steve Broido. Steve, any
thoughts whatsoever on Tinder Gold? Because you're an investor.
I am. I'm also a happily married man, so I have no thoughts at all. None.
Fair enough. We'll move on. The NFL season kicks off next Thursday when the Super Bowl champion
New England Patriots host the Kansas City Chiefs. Just in time for the new season,
Electronic Arts announced a partnership with the NFL to create an online tournament of its popular
Madden NFL game. David, I feel like the line between esports and actual sports is getting
blurrier and blurrier. Definitely. There's been a lot of news, especially this year with
NBA 2K, with Take-Two Interactive and NBA forming an esports league. But I really like the approach
Electronic Arts is taking to esports. They're really taking a mass market approach where
everyone can play regardless of your skill level. As long as you're over 16, you can compete in this
tournament you can compete against other players in the world and eventually it'll get to essentially
a playoff back bracket where the top 32 players will represent each of the 32 NFL teams and
eventually compete for a $400,000 prize pool around the same time as a Super Bowl but this
approach with Electronic Arts where everyone can play everyone can essentially create their own
fantasy team and then play that team against other players I think that just drives engagement for
the game, those players will probably purchase different add-ons and other ways to experience
the game. So, I really like this approach for Electronic Arts. It's different than what
Activision and Take-Two are doing, where they're really focusing on those pro-elite players.
Well, and this is the first partnership of this type that we've seen before, where
you have a major U.S. sports league involved to this level. And as you said, 32 players
will emerge, one representing each team. Am I the only one who really hopes to win in
all this is some person from Cleveland. I just feel like the Cleveland Browns have just
had such a rough go of it for so long. I don't know, I feel like any win is a win, right?
Throw him a bone, why not? David Kretzmann, Jeff Fischer,
Matt Argersinger. Guys, we'll see you a little bit later in the show.
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Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill. Tom Gardner is the co-founder,
co-chairman of the board, and the CEO here at The Motley Fool, and he joins me now
in the studio. Thanks for being here. That's a lot of titles.
It is a lot of titles. That's too many titles. I mean,
but what does it really mean to be CEO of The Motley Fool? I mean, the playful fun that is
The Motley Fool. We don't really have a traditional CEO role at our company.
Then what are we paying you for? I have no idea.
I was going to say, you've been busy not just with your role as CEO, but also you've been
traveling a lot lately. And that's where I want to start this conversation, because
you and a team of fools, recently you were in Tokyo, Hong Kong. You gave the keynote address
at the InvestFair conference in Singapore, which was standing room only. Is it fair to say that
the appetite for stock investing is growing around the world?
I think that's true. It's easier to invest than ever before. There's so much
information available to us. If you're researching a small-cap company, when we started The Motley
Fool in 1993, maybe you're going to the card catalog in a public library, honestly, and
now you're just inundated with so much information about your business, and we think that's a
great thing. So, yeah, I think there's an increasing enthusiasm for investing. A lot
of that is about passive indexing, which we think is a great thing. But certainly, there
are a lot of entrepreneurs and people who love to buy individual stocks around the world.
So, that made it fun. Was there anything you saw on your
trip that tickled your investing brain? Was there anything that got you thinking about
industries or companies in a different way? Or, something that confirmed what you already
think about a given industry or company in a way that you thought, oh, this is even bigger
than I expected. Well, certainly, the most obvious thing
to me is that markets across Asia are very interesting for investment, for innovation.
There's a lot of change in those societies. I think if you look at Japan, it's kind of
upside down on population. It has a huge percentage relative to other countries of people over
the age of 60. So, I think that the 20-year-olds and 30-year-olds are starting to drive change
in Japan now. And bringing in the idea that you can be an entrepreneur, start a company
and have it fail, and you're not humiliated because of that. So, these cultures are changing,
the markets are dynamic, and in a lot of cases, they're more attractively valued than the
U.S. market now. There's an investor we really love named Joel Tillinghast at Fidelity, and
we were talking to some investors there saying, if you look at his small-cap portfolio, he
has bought a lot of Japanese small-caps, because they're really undervalued relative to the
rest of the world or to the U.S. But I think the biggest thing is, wow, these are such
dynamic places. They're changing. I'm really excited that we're opening up Motley Fool
businesses in Hong Kong and Japan to go with our existing business in Singapore, because
there's still too much short-term thinking everywhere. It's obviously not cultural. It's
wired into our brains to think that we should be able to track the performance of an allocation
of our capital a week later or a month later or two months later, when really the best
way to make money is in businesses over years. That's really what we're trying to teach people
around the world.
I was talking with our colleague Brian Richards, who was with you on the trip, and that was
one of the things that I think is notable about the audience that you accumulated for
your keynote address. One of the things Brian said about the trip, and in particular in
Singapore, is the day trading mentality is still far more powerful than it should be.
Of course, it changes country to country, but I would say Hong Kong and Singapore,
there's a lot of day trading. Now, in both those countries, there is no capital gains
tax. And there's no dividend tax, I think, in both countries. So, in a funny way, there's
not the same level of downside that there is to engaging the markets that way as people
do in the U.S. The data just shows they lose, they lose, they lose again here in the U.S.
when they actively trade like that. But in Japan, it's not day trading, actually. It's
just getting people to take the money out of the walls of their house and start putting
it into the market or getting it past the bank and into the market. That market was
burned very badly in the 1990s, and so it's understandable. But actually, if you compare
the rates of returns of equities in Japan, you still want to be in that zone versus all
the other asset categories. So, long-term investment in businesses that have great leadership,
that are innovating, that have excellent underlying economics, and just letting them ride 5,
10, 15, 20 years, whether it's Netflix or MercadoLibre or Arista Networks or Shopify
and all these great companies out there, just becoming a long-term owner anywhere in the world
of great companies is so superior to what we naturally tend to seem to do, which is either
day trade or be too fearful to actually invest. When we first met 20-some-odd years ago...
You had the same head of hair, Chris.
As did you.
That is so true, yeah.
Yeah. Your approach to investing was very much focused on large-cap companies,
cash is king, that approach. Lately, in particular, you've been focused on smaller
companies. And I'm wondering if part of the attraction for that is that institutional
investors really can't get into smaller companies in the way that individuals can.
That's certainly part of it. David has always been passionate about rule breakers and companies
changing the world, and high insider ownership, and high growth rates, and those tend to be
truer of smaller companies. We certainly learned this from William O'Neill at Investors Business
Daily early on, and Peter Lynch, and Buffett has said it himself, gosh, the best way to
make the most money investing is to be invested in small companies for the long-term. So,
I think there's a lot that's happening in the world now with passive indexing that's
flowing money into the Amazons, Apples, Facebooks, Netflix, Googles, Microsofts. And why not?
Those are five, six of the most incredible businesses in the history of the world. But
they're also now capitalized $400 billion, $500 billion, $700 billion. The chances that
they'll double, triple, quadruple is relatively low over the next five to seven years. But
that's not true for small caps, many of which have been left behind. So, yeah, institutions
aren't really probing those companies and looking around for where to invest. That leaves
a great opportunity for us. It was back in 1996 that you and your brother
David ... You've done your research here. This is
incredible. I try to, every once in a while.
1996. 1996. 21 years ago, you and David wrote your first
book, Motley Fool Investment Guide. Next Tuesday, September 5th, the third edition of the book
is being released. First, does that give you pause at all, that a book you wrote 21 years
ago has that kind of staying power?
That's a great question. The only humble way to answer it would be, I'm constantly
surprised and delighted by what's happened. On the other side of it, just as a business
thinker looking at the world, we have a very unique name. The year is 1996. There's a lot
of day trading in the U.S. Mutual funds are considered the safe place to invest even though
they're charging 2% a year in fees. We come into the middle of that and teach the world
what our dad taught us about investing in stocks, and are one of the first entities
out there to talk about indexing as a great, low-cost, very tax-efficient way to get exposure
to the stock market. And so, the mix of indexing in stocks and the Motley Fool brand, it was
pretty unique in 1996. And obviously, it's a delight 21 years later to have the third
edition coming out. And I think this is the best edition. A lot of work has been done
by David Mead, but by people at The Motley Fool as well, really deepening the research
and upgrading that book and making it relevant with company examples that are here and now.
So, yeah, I'm excited and excited about the way it can serve investors and help them invest better.
Obviously, there are so many changes to the investing world that have happened
since 1996. Investors have so much more information at their fingertips. Where do you see the
balance of power now, because certainly in the mid-'90s, individuals were really challenged
to do it themselves. It seems, though, like despite the increase in transparency, despite
all the advantages now relative to then, there are still some significant challenges for
individual investors. Yeah, I have mixed feelings on it.
I think overall, so much progress has been made, so I feel very, very pleased with that.
Something that's just happened recently in some of our services that Bill Mann and Andy Cross,
our chief investment officer, and I and others have been advocating is for people to begin
negotiating their discount brokerage fees lower. I forgot to mention when we were talking earlier
about traveling outside the U.S., but I learned in Singapore and Hong Kong that it's absolutely
essential that you negotiate your brokerage fee. No one would pay the listed price of brokerage
fees. Then we came back and started to test it among our membership base. We started getting
notes back from people. Somebody said, my broker gave me 150 free trades. That's hundreds
and hundreds of dollars. Well, it turns out that brokerage transactions are essentially
free for the broker to process. We're in a digital age. I think that the information
flow online, getting in the right community, feeling comfortable asking questions, it puts
the advantage so much in the hands of the individual now. It's very easy to beat the
vast majority of mutual funds. They have a lot of restrictions to how they have to manage
that money. So, I'd say the combination of passive indexing and getting into a great
online community, and basically looking at everyone in the world of finance as the person
who is here to serve you. So, you should challenge the prices, challenge what they're offering.
And I'll close by saying, I love Nassim Taleb's comments about skin in the game, and one of
the most important questions you can ask anyone in finance is, the advice that you're giving
me, are you taking that exact advice yourself? And what you'll find, unfortunately, still,
is that it's not true throughout a lot of the Wall Street firms and larger financial
services firms. But I think it's favoring the individual now who's willing to get online
and ask questions. You mentioned your dad a few moments
ago. Look, there are a lot of investment books out there, but I think one of the things that
makes The Motley Fool Investment Guide unique is the fun factor, because that was so much
of what your father did in teaching you and David about investing, was essentially saying,
look, this doesn't have to be boring math, this doesn't have to be homework, you can
actually have fun doing this. The world of business and the challenge
of investing, they're actually both games. They have very serious consequences. If you
do something wrong at a business as a leader, it's going to impact the people that are working
at that company. If you make bad decisions in your investment life, it will impact the
choices that you have in your later years. So, they're very serious and consequential,
but they're games, and there are a lot of players playing every day throughout the day.
It's the one game that's really 24-7 around the world, and with a tremendous amount of
information that you can study. Just looking through the financial filings of small-cap
companies in the U.S. over the last six months, I've spent a lot of time, because this is
an area of the market that is not performing as well as the largest of the companies, and
historically, that should be reversed. So, I think small-cap companies are really attractive
right now, and just reading through all of the businesses out there, it's just completely
fascinating. It's such a fun game, and it's a competitive game, and I'm happy that we
gets to play it every single day. Over the past 20 years, certainly e-commerce
and consumer tech have been so big in our lives, and so big for investors, when you
think about Amazon, Google, Facebook, three companies, by the way, which two of them weren't
even around, and the third one, Amazon, wasn't a public company when you wrote your first
book. When you think about the next two decades, where do you find you focusing your investing
attention when it comes to industries? Well, in the U.S., 70% of the economy
is driven by consumer spending, and that should mean that 70%, something in that approximate
range of businesses that are great investments, should be consumer-facing. And so, it starts
with the consumer, and then it jumps to technology again, because that's disappearing as a word.
It's like brand. Well, everyone has a brand. Is it a good brand? Is it good technology
or bad technology. I don't know, but it's all technology at this point. But if you think,
what are the trends that are now emerging in technology? And we all know one of them
is automation. So, a company that I've been recommending and investing in myself is iRobot.
I think this is really their time. They've been flat as a company from 2005 to 2016 as
a public company, 11 years of zero returns, and now the business is really performing,
stock is really performing. So, I think automation is a very big trend, and artificial intelligence,
of course. And then, the second one that I'm interested in is genetics, medical diagnostics,
personalized medicine. I think a lot of the breakthroughs of social media are kind of
out there. I'm not saying that augmented reality and virtual reality can't be transformative.
I think they can. But I think the next stage, particularly with the age of the population
U.S. is toward healthcare advancement and innovative technological breakthroughs there.
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Chris Hill, what are your largest two holdings in the Hill portfolio?
One is Amazon, and the other is Starbucks.
Got it. And which one are you more optimistic about over the next five years?
Starbucks, because I don't see how the delivery system of coffee is going to change in the next 25 years.
Awesome. Thank you.
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Matt Argesinger, and Jeff Fischer. You can check out past episodes of Motley Fool Money and all
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Before we get to the stocks on our radar, we're, of course, going to go to our man behind
the glass, Steve Broido, to hit you guys with a question. But first, Steve, coming up in
the month of September, you've got some surgery ahead of you. You're getting your tonsils
out?
I'm getting my tonsils removed. It's been 42 years coming, but I'm getting my tonsils
taken out.
Our email address here is radioatfool.com, and we always welcome your questions about
stocks, but in advance of Steve's tonsil surgery, we'd love it if you have …
Tonsillectomy, for the record.
Tonsillectomy. Any advice you have for Steve on the recovery process, if any listeners
have been through this as an adult, getting their tonsils out, radioatfool.com, any help
you can provide Steve Broido, we'd greatly appreciate it.
Whiskey, maybe.
Alright. David Kretzmann, you're up first. What are you looking at this week?
Well, we've been talking about retailers, and one retailer that I'm looking at is
Ulta Beauty, ticker ULTA. Stock is down over 25% over the past few months, and even though
this has been an incredible performer in terms of the business and the stock over the past
several years, the market has really turned pessimistic with the company all of a sudden.
After its latest report, the stock got hit once again, but I'm looking at this report
and I think there's so much to like here. Sales were up over 20%, same-store sales up
nearly 12%, earnings per share up 28%. In this age of Amazon, I think Ulta can hold
up on its own and continue to expand and thrive. They basically combine a wide selection of
cosmetics, they also have a lot of exclusive and private labels within that grouping of
cosmetics. They also have in-store services like their salon, which saw same-store sales
up nearly 8% this quarter. They have over 25 million rewards members, their e-commerce
grew over 70% this latest quarter. So now with the stock hit and below 30 times trailing earnings,
I think this is an attractive time to take a look. Steve Broido, question about Ulta Beauty.
So if a stock like Ulta Beauty drops so significantly, so quickly, what should my
first reaction be and what should I do or not do? Well, I think a lot of it has to do with
expectations. So try to figure out if the market is onto something or if this company can hold up
and continue to thrive. And I think that's ultimately, no pun intended there, the question
with Ulta or any other company that has seen its stock get hit significantly pretty quickly.
O' Jeff Fischer, what are you looking at?
Lowe's Home Improvement, ticker LOW. The company has about 8% of its store base
in Texas, and a lot of those stores in Houston, they're already sending 500 truckloads of
supplies to the area. Almost all of their stores in Houston have reopened. And in the
past, hurricanes have been a consistent contributor to same-store sales growth for the company for
several quarters to go forward. So, the stock trades at only 15 times forward estimates after
having kind of a rough summer. And so, this may, through tragedy, help the company a little bit.
Steve, question about Lowe's?
I feel like Lowe's is always sort of playing second fiddle to Home Depot. How can they change
that? I think that's true. Home Depot is a famously efficient operator, and Lowe's hasn't
really taken their best practices yet, but they have improved considerably in the last
couple of years, and the stock has actually done better than Home Depot in recent times.
O' Matt Argersinger, what are you looking at this week?
Being a bit of a homer on this one, but I like Dunkin' Brands right now. Ticker's
DNKN. It's, of course, the owner of Dunkin' Donuts, but also the Baskin-Robbins chains.
Mike Olson, who runs our income investor service here at The Fool, it's one of his favorite
dividend stocks right now. Look, America runs on Dunkin', we all know that. But I think
there's lots of room still for Dunkin' Donuts to expand across the U.S. It's almost entirely
a franchised business, so it comes with high margins, sells two addictive products, coffee
and sugar, which I love. Trading for about 22 times earnings, not cheap, but not expensive
either, and you get a 2.5% dividend yield that I think they can grow double digits going
forward.
Steve, question about Dunkin' Brands?
When you have these stores that are connected, like Dunkin' Donuts, you'll see them connected
to a Baskin-Robbins. There's like a pass-through secret route. How does that work? Are they
both open at the same time? It seems like a dessert and a breakfast. That doesn't work
well for you.
They usually are.
I honestly don't like the donut-ice cream connection,
and so I never buy ice cream at the same time as buying donuts.
So I kind of hope they modify that and just focus on Dunkin' Donuts going forward.
What do you like, Steve?
I'd probably go Lowe's.
All right.
David Kretzmann, Jeff Fisher, Matt Argersinger.
Guys, thanks for being here.
Thanks, Chris.
Thank you.
Our engineer, Steve Broido.
Our producer is Matt Greer.
I'm Chris Hill.
We'll see you next week.
