Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing - The Newest Big Idea from Elon Musk: Terafab
Episode Date: March 23, 2026The Motley Fool’s Hidden Gem team take a look at trends moving the market as well as dissect Elon Musk’s announcement over the weekend for the Terafab project.Jon Quast, Matt Frankel, and Rachel W...arren discuss:-The roller coaster ride with oil prices.-How to maintain a long-term perspective.-Elon Musk’s galactic ambitions with his Terafab project.-Long-term growth trends our analysts love.Companies discussed: Tesla (TSLA), IBM (IBM), Chevron (CVX), Intuitive Surgical (ISRG), Medtronic (MDT), Johnson & Johnson (JNJ), Occidental Petroleum (OXY)Host: Jon QuastGuests: Matt Frankel, Rachel WarrenEngineer: Bart Shannon Disclosure: Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. The Motley Fool and its affiliates (collectively, “TMF”) do not endorse, recommend, or verify the accuracy or completeness of the statements made within advertisements. TMF is not involved in the offer, sale, or solicitation of any securities advertised herein and makes no representations regarding the suitability, or risks associated with any investment opportunity presented. Investors should conduct their own due diligence and consult with legal, tax, and financial advisors before making any investment decisions. TMF assumes no responsibility for any losses or damages arising from this advertisement.We’re committed to transparency: All personal opinions in advertisements from Fools are their own. The product advertised in this episode was loaned to TMF and was returned after a test period or the product advertised in this episode was purchased by TMF. Advertiser has paid for the sponsorship of this episode.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Elon Musk just pitched his next big idea. This is Motley Fool Money.
Welcome to Motley Fool Money with the Hidden Gems team. I'm Jon Quast, joined today by Matt
Frankel and Rachel Warren. Today, we're talking about Elon Musk's big idea, as well as some other
big ideas that we really like. But first, I kind of wanted to avoid it, but we have to talk about
it. Early this morning, before the market opened, U.S. President Trump announced that they'd had
productive talks with Iran over the weekend. Of course, we all know that the operations happening
in Iran have had a huge impact on oil prices. It's been a roller coaster ride. And I'm positive
we have not reached the final chapter of this ride yet. But with the market up so sharply today,
I felt like we needed to talk about it, acknowledge it. Rachel and Matt, the market was down last
week, up sharply this morning. Was the announcement from the president that good? Was the news that
good. Well, yes and no. So for one thing, I mean, you said we try to avoid talking about the war,
but it's nice to talk about it on a somewhat positive note for a change. For one thing,
take this news with a big grain of salt. As you said, we're probably not close to the final
chapter yet. The president decided to delay certain strikes specifically on Iran's energy
resources after productive talks. And right after he said that, Iran quickly denied that any talks
had actually taken place. So Iran at the beginning of the war, if you remember, they said that
I think it was their prime minister, is that what it's called, was alive and well after he had been
killed in airstrikes. So who's to say what did or did not happen? And if talks happened, how
productive they actually were. Of course, this is two different sides telling two kind of very
biased sides of the story, I guess I would say. But on the other hand, the market was clearly
ready for any signs of de-escalation in the conflict. And we finally got one. For the past
few weeks, I don't know about you guys, it seemed like the situation was gradually getting worse
and more uncertain on a daily basis is a nice change of pace. So just to be clear,
the war is still going on. I want to get that right out there. So we're not likely to see a
broad, sustained rebound in the market unless further developments happen. Even after today's
move, my portfolio is still very much down. I don't know if you're in the same boat. So
essentially all that's happened is that the president is agreeing to delay escalating the
conflict even further. He's not really dialing back to anything that's already happening at
this point. It's just delaying what he threatened to do to escalate it even further. So keep that
in mind. Yeah, I think Matt laid that out really well. I do think the global markets are really
looking for sort of any sign of relief. And President Trump's true social announcement of
a five-day pause, it was very specific to military strikes against Iranian power plants. That is
nothing to say as to strikes across the country towards other military targets. But basically,
what had happened over the weekend was President Trump had threatened to obliterate Iran's energy
infrastructure if the Strait of Hormuz was not reopened. And so we're sort of seeing this
morning the sudden shift to a rhetoric of, quote unquote, productive conversations. And I think
that perhaps that is easing some fears of what has been feared would be a global energy crisis
comparable to 1970s oil shocks. So when the market opened this morning and we saw the Dow jump over
800 points. S&P 500 and NASDAQ rose about 1.4% and 1.6% respectively. We saw European indexes
flipped from losses to gains at the market open. And then Brent Crude, of course, which had topped
I think around 114 a barrel earlier in the day, plunged double digits after the news. Of course,
that could have changed as we are recording this podcast, right? We also saw a response from
airline and cruise line stocks, right, which of course are companies that are very sensitive
to fuel costs. And then conversely, you saw shares of energy stocks like Occidental Petroleum
retreat a little bit. I think it's important to underscore here, the situation is very fragile.
As Matt noted, Iranian officials have publicly denied that direct talks took place. There's
some suggestions that the move maybe is a tactic to try to get energy prices to tamp down a bit.
I do think that investors should expect the market roller coaster to continue,
even as this five-day potential window unfolds.
I think it could get worse before it gets better.
I don't think we have seen even close to the end of this.
Okay, so that is the more news angle.
This is what has happened.
This is what is happening.
But I want to take a step back and just kind of advocate,
ask some questions on behalf of our listeners.
I think if I'm a listener to this show regularly,
if I'm listening to Motley Fool Money,
I'm hearing from the analysts regularly to take a long-term view
with investing. I want to take a long-term approach to buying stocks, investing in these
companies, and yet we're seeing something so consequential. Oil, energy prices, this is very
consequential to the global economy, and they are behaving somewhat erratically. Social media posts
can come out and cause trillions of dollars of change in the stock market. I think I'm asking,
if I'm a listener, how am I supposed to take a long-term view when things can change so quickly
on a day-to-day basis? Any thoughts that either of you can provide to our listeners that helps
them understand how to contextualize this? Sure. And if I'm being totally honest,
this is one of the reasons why I generally don't own energy stocks in my portfolio.
They can be more unpredictable than most of the other sectors I like to invest in.
So if you have stock in Chevron or Exxon or any of these really well-run oil businesses,
even. Things like war, weather, if a hurricane happens, for example, they can move the price
of oil dramatically through no fault of the company. You know, the company can be doing
everything it's supposed to be doing. And you need to be prepared for that as an investor.
We've seen, you know, massive swings even before the Iran conflict started. The worse than expected
winter weather was driving the price of oil up. So, you know, there's a lot that can go wrong in
oil. But you're right, John, and you kind of alluded to this. The moves in oil prices have
much more economic implications beyond just higher or lower prices at the gas pump. I mean,
you know, the transportation costs of getting food to grocery stores, there's a bunch of
different kind of trickle down effects, but none of those are permanent. They're all just kind of,
you know, ebbs and flows in the economy. I mean, energy costs, transportation costs,
materials costs, those are all going to be a little bit erratic over time. But when you zoom
out, the impact of transportation costs on things like grocery prices really tends to smooth out
over time. So if you're an energy sector investor, be prepared for these kinds of swings. If you're
invested in stocks that have kind of more secondary impacts of oil price swings, then just know that
it's not a permanent headwind for the business. It's just a temporary condition. And if you're
invested in great businesses, then it'll even out over the long term. Yeah, I think those are really
great points. And I think it's important to remember that so many of these elements are
beyond our control as retail investors. It's really, really important to focus on what we
can control and the efficiencies that we can build into our portfolio. I mean, as investors,
when you're hearing about oil prices swinging $30 at a day or headlines that seem to change
every few hours, I think the really important thing is to remember the difference between noise
and signals, right? I mean, daily volatility is almost always noise, the market reacting to fear
and uncertainty rather than actual long-term damage to global businesses. That doesn't mean
that they're not going to be impacts. These energy cost inputs, even if the war were to
grind to a halt now, there will be some impact for that probably well into the end of the year.
And historically, these kind of whipsaws that we see in the market, they can feel overwhelming in
the moment no matter what industries you're invested in, but they really do very rarely
change the long-term trajectory of really productive quality companies. You sort of
think of your portfolio like a house. A store might shake the windows today, but if the foundation,
which is hopefully a diversified mix of quality assets, is solid, the house should still be
standing long after the weather clears. So again, really focusing on building a robust,
profitable portfolio rather than trying to predict sort of the next chapter of what will
happen in the market. Another thing I'll add is that volatility can really provide long-term
investors with opportunities to rebalance, to buy quality companies at a discount. But again,
really staying diversified, keeping that long-term mindset. It ensures that headlines don't derail
the financial future you're trying to build. The goal is not to time the market, but to spend
enough time investing in the market over the duration of your investing journey to really
let the power of growth outweigh any temporary spikes that you might see in your portfolio.
Well, whatever happens, you can be sure that we will join you along for the rollercoaster ride.
After the break, we're going to talk about Elon Musk, and he's anything but subtle.
He gave the investing community plenty of buzz over the weekend.
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Welcome back to Motley Fool Money with the Hidden Gems team.
So Elon Musk did his best Bonnie Raitt impression over the weekend.
He said, let's give him something to talk about.
He held an event in Austin on Saturday to talk about something his companies are launching called TerraFab.
Rachel, what is TerraFab?
So TerraFab is a $25 billion joint venture between Tesla, SpaceX, and XAI.
And Musk is framing it as, quote, the most epic chip building exercise in history.
So TerraFab is going to be a vertically integrated semiconductor factory designed to produce an unprecedented one terawatt or one trillion watts of AI computing power annually.
And unlike traditional factories that specialize in one part of the process, Musk envisions that TerraFab will handle everything, design, lithography, fabrication, packaging, under a single roof to bypass global supply chain bottlenecks.
bottlenecks. You know, for Tesla, this is really, and Musk, this is really about achieving total
self-reliance for the physical AI ambitions. I mean, the idea is the facility will mass produce
the inference chips needed to power cybercab robotaxis and optimist humanoid robots. Musk
estimates that all current global chip makers combined can only provide about 2% of the compute
capacity his companies will eventually require. One final thing I want to note, I mean, there's
some kind of major implications here for SpaceX as well, that 80% of TeraFab's output is earmarked
for space-based applications, specifically for a new constellation of orbital AI satellites.
Basically, the satellites will use custom chips to run massive AI workloads in orbit and take
advantage of the vacuum of space for better thermal management and more solar energy than on
Earth. So it's a very big promise that Musk is making, a massive vision that he has for TeraFab.
It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out.
Yeah, it was so interesting to hear Elon talking about how essentially they want to buy so
much semiconductor products from their partners, but the partners just aren't making enough
to meet their needs.
So they're going to take it on themselves with this ambitious project.
Matt, just how ambitious is it?
It certainly is ambitious.
But I mean, first of all, keep in mind that the Gigafactory seemed like a very ambitious
project at first and that was delivered.
But keep it in perspective.
you know, the three companies that you mentioned, XAI, SpaceX, and Tesla, they have a combined
valuation of well over $2 trillion, over $3 trillion, depending on who you ask. So spending
$25 billion in CapEx, even if it's on the largest chip factory that will ever have been built in the
world, it isn't exactly a massive bet in terms of spending, especially when you consider Amazon
is spending $200 billion on CapEx this year. And Tesla has always liked to handle as much as
possible internally. I mentioned the Gigafactory with batteries. Take it with a grain of salt,
Musk does have a history of not necessarily under-delivering and over-promising, but really
aiming for the stars when it comes to innovations.
And he usually gets about 80, 90% of the way there.
So we'll see how this goes.
What's interesting to me is that at some point in the last year or so, we stopped measuring
AI compute with GPUs.
We switched to measuring it by how much power is needed.
And we're normally talking about gigawatts, or if you're a Back to the Future fan, a gigawatt,
But Terafab is looking at a terawatt of compute power annually.
Rachel, I mean, I just want to underscore that this is a huge number.
Yeah, I mean, so gigawatts is a billion watts, right?
A terawatt is a trillion watts.
I mean, this is a massive leap that almost no one else is currently making.
To kind of put it in perspective, a single terawatt is about the total power capacity
of the entire U.S. grid, right?
And basically, this is a bet that the future requires a nation's worth of computing power
on things like Tesla's global robot fleets and orbital AI networks. But I think it is important
to kind of put some of this in context. Really, the effectiveness of Terafab is going to really
depend on whether Musk can solve the task of entering a field, semiconductor manufacturing,
where his companies have zero experience. I mean, there's been a lot of critics and industry
experts that have come out saying, you know, this plan is virtually impossible. Chip fabrication is
vastly more complex than building cars or rockets. It requires atomic level precision
that takes decades to master. Some people have pointed to Tesla's 4680 battery cells as a
cautionary tale. You know, this was sort of a project that promised to revolutionize energy,
but faced years of delays and did not meet its original performance targets. But of course,
we have seen Musk bring his scale of innovation and I think surprised the naysayers many times
before. So a lot to watch here. It is certainly a very interesting bet on the future of semiconductor
manufacturing. And I think investors will be excited to watch what happens coming next.
Yeah, we definitely don't know when it comes to the timetable or the scale, just how well Musk will deliver on his promises here. But we will be keeping an eye on it because he's definitely moving in that direction. It could really be an interesting thing to watch. When we come back, we're talking about some of our favorite investing trends. You're listening to Motley Fool Money.
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Welcome back to Motley Fool Money with the Hidden Gems team. We'd like to use this Monday episode
of the podcast to talk about some of our favorite investing principles on the Hidden Gems team.
On previous episodes, we've talked about things like overlooked components of the business that
make a difference. We've talked about leadership teams. Today, we want to acknowledge that we like
big picture growth sectors. We like secular growth trends. Maybe it goes without saying,
but why do we look at this when we are looking for stocks to invest in?
So think back to some things that are now commonplace in our everyday life that were
major trends not too long ago. Things like software as a service and smartphones are even,
and I can even remember back to when e-commerce really was an early stage trend. I'm aging myself
a little bit there. There were some generational wealth creation opportunities in those days,
and most of which are really only obvious in hindsight. Amazon was not Amazon. It was the
best time to invest in it. And in the moment, they were far tougher to spot. So it's a nice
challenge. And by acknowledging and studying the trends today that are in the earlier stages,
we can set ourselves up to find tomorrow's big winners.
Yeah, I mean, when you focus on secular growth trends,
it's very much a tailwind
that can carry a company forward,
regardless of what the broader economy is doing.
I mean, think of transformative shifts
like the rise of AI, the shift to renewable energy,
aging global populations.
When you're investing in these kind of mega trends,
you're betting on a fundamental change
in human behavior or technology
that's likely to last for a decade or more.
And a lot of those trends
really provide a staple foundation
that can help investors,
whether portfolio and market shifts. It also really allows you to kind of ignore the noise
of market cycles and focus on compounding returns through companies that are capturing value in
really fast growing sectors. So this is for each of you. Let's not just talk about big trends in
theory. What are some trends that you believe will experience incredible growth over the next 10
years and which ones do you love most today? Matt, let's start to you. Yeah. So one of my
favorite trends to watch is quantum computing, but it may be a little early to effectively invest
in. I think of it like if you were to invest in e-commerce like five or six years before it was
actually possible to do e-commerce. So I'm closely watching IBM. That's the company that I'm using as
like my gauge here as like an early quantum play. It's not only the furthest along when developing
viable quantum computing hardware, but the company has consistently met its development milestones
well ahead of schedule. So arguably the biggest question in quantum computing is when will it be
commercially viable? And depending on who you ask, there's like a 10 year window when it could
finally reach an inflection point. So I'm watching for clues when that might happen as we get a
little bit closer. I'm really excited by the rise of physical artificial intelligence, which is
basically, you know, advanced software moving and acting in our world rather than just staying
inside a screen.
I mean, you can see this
happening right now
in healthcare
with surgical robotics, right?
I mean, these systems
are acting as a superhuman
partner for doctors,
particularly with the advent
of AI offering precision.
This simply isn't possible
for a human alone.
I think it's a much larger move
towards personalized medicine
where technology helps
tailor every treatment
to a patient's specific needs.
And, you know,
there's a few kind of companies
I watch in this space.
Obviously, Intuitive Surgical
is a big name here.
Their systems are already used
in millions of
robotic-assisted procedures,
but you've also got
major players like Medtronic and Johnson & Johnson. I think it's a really fascinating
space to watch. And again, we're looking at companies that aren't just selling a piece
of equipment once, but are creating a whole ecosystem of specialized tools and services
that generate steady revenue. So a lot of exciting things happening in healthcare.
Yeah, those are a couple of good trends. Personally, I like domestic manufacturing
and that kind of trend, but unfortunately, we don't have time to talk about that today.
Matt and Rachel, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I need to say the disclosure,
and that'll be the end of today's episode.
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