Motley Fool Money - Big Deals, Snap Judgments, and Oscar Predictions

Episode Date: February 23, 2018

General Mills loads up on pet food. Walmart stumbles. Texas Roadhouse sizzles. Boston Beer fizzles. And Kylie Jenner breaks up with Snap. Plus, corporate governance expert and film critic Nell Minow t...alks Chipotle, Black Panther, and Academy Awards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:09 Good to see you, as always, gentlemen. Hey, Chris. We've got the latest headlines from Wall Street. We've got Academy Award predictions from Nell Minow. And as always, we'll give you an inside look at the stocks on our radar. But we begin with a surprising acquisition from Friday morning. General Mills is buying Pet Food Maker Blue Buffalo for $8 billion. Jason, tell me what to think about this, because one of my thoughts is General Mills,
Starting point is 00:01:34 got a little bit of a steel here. I'm a little surprised that there's only a 17% premium that General Mills is paying for this pet food company. Yeah, I mean, it seemed like the deal was not something that was expected. I think General Mills is badly in need of a win. If you look at the stock over the past few years, it's just not really been a great story. Buying a presence in the pet food market, I think is a pretty smart way to get a win. Blue Buffalo, top line growth is there. 19.5% annualized over the last five years, earnings growth at 24 percent annualized over the last five years. I mean, listen, they're playing on that better for you movement in pet food.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And as odd as that may sound, it is actually a thing. And you remember in San Francisco, I pitched that company Idex Laboratories, which is in the pet diagnostics market. We love our pets. We'll do anything for them. And I think that better for you movement is actually something that's playing out, particularly on the younger generation. So I think this is actually a really smart play by General Mills.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Yeah, the pet industry is also very recession-proof, because as Jason said, we love our pets. We're going to take care of them, whether the economy is doing well or not doing so well. And in this case, General Mills is really going up against Nestle, which owns Purina, which is probably the closest pure competitor that Blue Buffalo has. But all in all, this whole pet space is very attractive. I think it makes sense for some of these bigger players to acquire these smaller brands. So General Mills, well-known for breakfast cereal and you'll play yogurt, any concern that they're going to botch this acquisition?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Oh, I can't imagine. I mean, this isn't anything new, right? I mean, David mentioned... Mixed yogurt in the food. David mentioned Purina and Nestle. I mean, Procter & Gamble sold IMS to Mars not terribly long ago. So I think this is really in their wheelhouse, so to speak. And historically, pet-related spending growth has outpaced even personal consumption growth.
Starting point is 00:03:24 So, David mentioned it. I mean, pets are just... That's a resilient market. I think this is going to work out. I feel like I have to mention that. We are short shares of General Mills in Tom Gardner's never-lasting portfolio. And that's a new short we put on a few weeks ago. Just on the concern that the breakfast habits are changing, and cereal box cereal is on the wane,
Starting point is 00:03:46 especially with younger customers. So, you know, just have to put that out there. We're glad to see the stock fall. Does this change? And yeah, shares of General Mills down about 3, 4%, because they're cutting a big check here. Does this change your thesis at all? We haven't talked about it yet. The news just broke today. I think it supports the thesis in some ways in that it shows how General Mills is stretching to find new avenues of growth as their serial struggles. Yeah, I wouldn't even really aware of that, the Neverlasting Short there, but it makes sense. If you look at General Mills' top line, it's clearly been going through some trouble. I mean, facing a lot of headwinds, the Blue Buffalo, that's going to contribute somewhere in the neighborhood of a $1.5 billion of that top line right off the bat.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I don't know if it's a thesis changer, but it's certainly something that General Mills needed to do. Blue Buffalo breakfast cereal for dogs. Think about it. Well, that's the beauty of dogs, right? You just feed them the same thing every day. They're just not so picky. All right, let's move on to retail. Shares of Walmart fell more than 10 percent this week. After fourth quarter profits came in lower than expected, Jeff, Walmart's online sales, they're still growing, but they're just not growing quite as much in this latest quarter. Yeah, they only grew 23 percent in the latest quarter. That was down from 50% the previous quarter.
Starting point is 00:05:04 That said, the company was lapping. It has owned Jet.com for a year now, so it had to lap that growth, and when it hit that one-year mark, the growth tapered off. Walmart still expects e-commerce sales to grow more than 40% this year, more or less. That said, it's a tiny number. Of their 500 billion in revenue, e-commerce is about 11 billion, so right around 2%. And even if it grows 40% this year, it's going to be around 3%.
Starting point is 00:05:30 year, it's going to be around 3% of total sales at Walmart. If that, meanwhile, part of what hit the stock is gross margins are down because they are promoting prices more, you know, and spending more on building out their e-commerce. And they had some glitches. Even at a mere $11 billion in sales last year online, they had glitches in fulfillment, so they're working through some kinks. Well, and also when you look at shares of Walmart, which had such a great year in 2017, I mean, this was, for years, Walmart was a very cheap stock, not so cheap going into this week. Yeah, Chris Walmart was up 30% the past year, and it's up 32% the past five years. So all those gains, the past five years, happened last year.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And the shares now trade at about 19 times earnings, where historically, the past 10-year average is 14.7 times. So it's at a premium price right now. Fourth quarter sales for Macado Libre rose more than 70%. And somehow, David, that just wasn't enough. Share selling off a little bit this week. Yeah, I mean, you have to take a step back. Mercod Libre has been an incredible performer, really, over any time frame that you look at. And the company right now is just feeding the e-commerce flywheel.
Starting point is 00:06:40 They're investing a lot into rolling out free shipping, which attracts buyers. The more buyers on their platform, the more sellers are attracted to it. Free shipping now accounts for about 70% of the gross merchandise values sold on their platform. But that's taking a toll on margins. the gross margin has dropped from 75% in 2015 to 51% over the past year. But at the same time, items sold in the fourth quarter grew 58%, which is the fastest growth the company has seen over the past five years. So given the scope of the market opportunity in Latin America, those investments make sense. It's just a matter of essentially sacrificing short-term profit for that long-term market potential.
Starting point is 00:07:17 One thing we were talking about right before we started taping was, and it was news to me, was that Mercado Libre apparently announced that they were suspending their annual dividend. I never for one second thought that this growth stock was paying a dividend in the first place. Yeah, and I think that kind of highlights the evolution you've seen with Mercado Libre. Normally, we don't like to see companies cut or eliminate their dividends. But in this case, I think it's coming from a place of strength. Mercosurie has transitioned from just being a marketplace platform like eBay to taking more control of payments and shipping. And they have such a huge market opportunity that they want to use.
Starting point is 00:07:51 use the cash on their balance sheet to further that expansion rather than shipping it out to investors in the form of the dividends. So in this case, I think it makes sense, but it will be something to watch. I think so too, David. It's still such a small company, as you said. Market cap is about $16 billion, whereas eBay is $44 billion. Amazon is $720 billion. So not that I'm equating the two, but its market opportunity is much larger.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Tough week for Wayfair. Fourth quarter revenue for the online home furnishings company looked good, but Wayfair shares loss was bigger than Wall Street could stomach, and shares fell more than 25%. Jason, what do you think? Because for a long time, this was putting up losses was not a problem for Wayfair. No, and I don't think it will be, you know, this sell-off notwithstanding. I mean, it really was a good quarter for the company. It was right in line with what they've been telling is they're going to do all along the way. Now, with that said, what they're going to do is
Starting point is 00:08:47 continue to spend a lot of capital investing in the business. And investors are going to have to kind of just buy into that. And I think for the most part, the market has given them a pass to this point. But it's a stock that's not supported by any real fundamentals. And so whenever you have any concerns whatsoever on the growth side or the spending side, the market sells it off. It makes sense. It doesn't mean it's a bad company or a bad investment. You just have to know what you're getting into here. And I think the key points to take away from the quarter, top line growth is still coming along nicely. Percentage of orders from repeat customers continues to grow. And they're keeping that operating expense line in check as well. So this
Starting point is 00:09:21 This is going to be the same story, I think, for some time to come. It will behoove them to get profitable sooner rather than later. But all in all, I think it was a productive quarter. You know, the repeat customer stat is a good one, because this is one of those situations where, as long as they can keep people coming back, obviously, it's a lot more expensive for them to acquire new customers than it is to just keep the ones they have. It is. It really matters, too. I mean, you're going to see that ad spin kind of continue on par with these quarters as they go along. But you look at customers who've used Wayfair once or twice, or more times, in my case, you start to recognize it is an optimal shopping experience for
Starting point is 00:09:56 the home. I think they've done a very good job of creating a good experience. And after a year, they see people coming back and they know they don't have to ramp up that spend to keep those customers there. They're there for a reason. In the case of Wayfair, you have seen some short sellers over the past couple of years try to write off the business model, but you're seeing Amazon, Walmart, Target, a lot of heavy hitters entering this online furniture space. So I think there is something to the business model. And something I do like with Waifer is the two co-founders still own about 30% of the company. They're very much incentivized to think over three- and five-year periods because they're paid largely in the form of restricted stock units that best over a five-year period.
Starting point is 00:10:33 So these are leaders that have a long-term outlook in mind. And given the fact that you have these other competitors entering the space, I think in some way that kind of validates what Wayfair is doing. And I think they do have a first-mover advantage. And it's kind of a double-edged sword, though, right? It's like, hey, hey, they have a target. Good news. Our business plan has been validated. And the bad news is it's validated by e-commerce giant, giant Amazon and Walmart, which is just a bricks-and-mortar retail giant. A giant target on their back.
Starting point is 00:10:59 So you two know way fair much better than I do. Shares about doubled in the past year. Now they've fallen 25 percent or so. Do you view this as a buying opportunity? Would you buy now? I would personally just stick with a small position. As Jason mentioned, the company is not profitable. Probably won't be profitable for a while.
Starting point is 00:11:15 So it will be volatile. But I could see this being a bigger company down the road, but keep the position size small. Texas Roadhouse put up solid numbers in the fourth quarter, but shares falling slightly this week. David, do you look at same-store sales up 4.5%. A lot of restaurant stocks would be popping on results like that. Yeah, I mean, same store sales were at 4.5% in 2017. In the fourth quarter, they're up 5.8%. Earnings grew 37%.
Starting point is 00:11:40 There's no doubt that Texas Roadhouse, they're cooking up numbers that are the envy of almost every other restaurant out there. I think the reason the stock was flat or dropped a little bit after this report is expectations were high. The market recognizes that this is an elite performer in the restaurant space, especially in a time when so many restaurants are struggling to put up good numbers. But so far in 2018, management mentioned that comps are up 4.7 percent. So that growth is continuing. They've had eight straight years of comps growth. So really incredible numbers, especially for casual diners like them. And founder and CEO, Kent Taylor, said, quote, that he's feeling some very cool vibe for 2018.
Starting point is 00:12:17 So probably some more to come. Coming up, we've got pizza and beer. What more could you possibly want? This is Motley Full Money. Hey, if you're looking to get a mortgage, here are a couple of tips. First, boost your credit score before applying. The better your credit score, the less your loan is going to cost you. And here's another tip. Check out Rocket Mortgage. Getting a mortgage or refinancing your existing home loan is not a walk in the park. And when you're making a big financial decision like that, you want to be as confident as you are in your everyday. life. And Rocket Mortgage gives you that same level of confidence when it comes to buying a home or refinancing your existing home loan. It's simple. It allows you to fully understand all the details so you can be confident you're getting the right mortgage for you. To get started,
Starting point is 00:13:02 go to RocketMortgage.com slash fool. Equal housing lender licensed in all 50 states and MLS, consumer access.org, number 3030. Welcome back to Motley Full Money, Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser, Jeff Fisher, and David Kretzman. Fourth quarter results for Domino's pizza weren't great, but they were good enough for Domino's to claim the title of World's Largest Pizza Chain, that is, based on global retail sales for 2017. A little bit higher than Pizza Hut. What'd you think of the quarter, Jeff? Well, I mean, how high a bar is Pizza Hut? Come on. Hey, they were number one. That's how high the bar was.
Starting point is 00:13:40 They were for a long time. So, congratulations to Domino's. Earnings per share grew more than 41 percent this past quarter, which was great. Same store sales were a little bit light. U.S. owned store. around 3.8% growth, same source sales growth there. But that's on top of about 11 to 12% last year, depending on how you measure. So it's a huge, difficult comparison that they had to overcome, and they still grew. Overall, it's just an expensive stock, up 400% the past five years, trading at 40 times earnings. And so it just took a little breather on the results. But they're strong, and the company's in a great position to keep growing around the world.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Last week, shares of Boston Beer Company hit a new high on word of new CEOs. Dave Berwick coming in. This week, however, Boston Beer shares falling after disappointing fourth quarter results. Jason, I know that there was like one less week in this quarter compared to a year ago, but they're still having trouble with their core brand, Sam Adams. Yeah, and that's a big problem. Now, with that said, they do have a New England IPA out now, which I'm fascinated by. I really want to try that. So, if you've seen the stores, let me know, Chris. Sure, I'll pick some up for you.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So Boston Beer, I think, has done a reasonable job in navigating a very competitive of landscape. They wrapped up a tough year with decent enough results, but I think investors should prepare themselves to remain extremely patient. I think that Dave Burroughs definitely has his work cut out for him. And I think the initial guidance for 2018 is at least encouraging in that they showed depletions getting back to a range between flat and plus 6%. But it's also worth remembering that they continue to guide those depletions down throughout the year last year. So just because it's what they're saying now doesn't mean. That's what is actually going to happen throughout the year. So it's just one where if you're a shareholder today, you need
Starting point is 00:15:26 to probably just prepare yourself to remain very patient because this is just a very competitive market. When we talk about retailers needing to have a good holiday quarter, is it fair for beverage companies to expect that going into the summer? Shouldn't this be a really good six months for any beer company? It should be. And for Boston beer, it does pin a lot of its hopes every summer on their summer rail. It's a very popular offering, and that's going to be a key indicator to tell us how the company's doing once they get through these summer months. Shares of Stamps.com up big on Thursday after fourth quarter revenue came in 25% higher
Starting point is 00:16:03 than a year ago. So, David, I guess we can add them to the list of companies that had a good holiday season. Absolutely. This is a company that's often overlooked because of the somewhat repulsive name, Stamps.com. Wow, repulsive? I mean, slightly. It harkens back to the dot-com era, but they are undoubtedly a beneficiary of the shift. shift to e-commerce over the past few years. They've acquired a few brands like Shipping Easy and
Starting point is 00:16:25 shipworks and ShipStation, which essentially aggregates all your orders if you're an e-commerce merchant into one place, then we'll find the best shipping carrier for each order. So as more stuff is bought online, more packages are shipped out. Stamps.com is benefiting. Those guys should buy shipsticks. I mean, that's legitimately a company. They ship your golf clubs wherever you need them to go. Way better than the airline. A niche offering. Yeah, maybe it made it will all happen. Although Shipsticks, isn't that a name that's a little, it's at least a little tougher to say.
Starting point is 00:16:54 It's even worse than stats. Dangerous, yeah. Maybe that's a poll we should put up on Twitter. Guys, it's not unusual for stock to fall after getting downgraded by a powerful Wall Street analyst. Shares of Snap fell more than 7% this week after getting a downgrade from someone apparently much more powerful than a Wall Street analyst. And that's Kylie Jenner.
Starting point is 00:17:17 On Wednesday, the millennial model and reality TV star tweeted her disappointment with the latest update of the Snapchat app. And I think it's worth pointing out, Jason, that she's got more than 24 million followers on Twitter. And apparently she has deleted the app from her phone. And that wiped more than one and a half billion dollars off of Snap's market cap. That's a shame. I mean, it is kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:17:46 is kind of funny. I mean, honestly, I think the one two punch here was the Mabelene tweet that came out shortly after that. They're questioning whether there's any real return from their presence on Snapchat, and they asked in a poll on Twitter, should we stay on Snapchat? Or, would you rather us be on Instagram stories? Overwhelmingly, I think 80 percent said, hey, we would rather you be on Instagram stories. Now, that tweet has since been deleted, which I think was very telling for a number of reasons. Regardless of the relationship between Snap and Mabelene, the poll results are what you really need to be concerned with, is a lot of people out there would just rather than be on Instagram stories. That's quite telling.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I just don't understand why the market has this thing valued so highly today. 26 times sales versus Facebook at around 13 and Twitter at 10. It's just not a proven platform, and it's got a mile to go until profitability. Well, as one of the millennials who uses both Instagram and Snapchat, I can personally say, I've used Snapchat a lot less since the update they rolled out, I guess, a week or two ago. It's just a clunkier platform to use. It's not very intuitive. And I think my friends even aren't using it much more. So you can just go to other messaging or social media apps to get a better experience. And with that news on Monday, snap opens 5% lower.
Starting point is 00:18:54 The Kresemint EFETT. It's the danger for all these companies, even if your Facebook, it's 60 to 90% of apps end up being abandoned within a short amount of time. So it's very easy to leave and not go back. I found the Mabelene tweet fascinating and maybe a sign of things to come where companies are going directly to their social media base and saying, hey, do you prefer us to do this or that. And that has real effect. Well, the customer-centric companies are the ones that really do went out in the end. That's why you see companies like Amazon and Wayfair, even to an extent, continue to do so well because they're so customer-centric.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But doesn't it say something about your business model that a single tweet from Kylie Jenner can just whack your stock like that? Don't underestimate Kylie, Chris. I mean, Snap still has a massive market cap, as Jason said. And they lost $3.5 billion nearly last year. They're far from profit. They're in the hot seats. And their CEO gets paid like a king, man. I can't figure that one out either.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Let's go to our man behind the glass. Steve Broido, what did you make of the update from Snap? I don't even know what Snapchat is. I think it's the thing with animals, right? We put little animal faces on you. And I'm not trying to be glib. I just don't use it. I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It looks kind of cute, but I don't know what to do with it. We'll leave it there. Coming up, we'll talk boardrooms and gold statues with Nell Minow. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Full Money. Welcome back to Motley Full Money. I'm Chris Hill. We are just days away from the Academy Awards, and there's always something going on in the corporate boardrooms of America. So we turn to the only guest that we can turn to. And that's Nell Minow, corporate governance expert and film critic known as the movie Mom. Nell, always good to talk to you. Well, thank you. Before we get to the Academy Awards, let's start with Wells Fargo. In her last official act, as chairman of the Federal Reserve, Janet Yellen, went out with a mic drop. She slapped new sanctions on Wells Fargo. They're not allowed to grow beyond $1.95 trillion in assets until Wells Fargo improves governance. When you saw that news,
Starting point is 00:21:00 did you cheer or did you think that's good, but I would have been even tougher on them? Oh, I did a happy dance. I, you know, I would have done that sooner. But, you know, I've said to you before that the SEC has authority to debar board members from serving on the boards of public companies, and it drives me nuts that they don't use it. And what I did not expect coming from the Fed is that they would insist on replacing board members. They can't debar anybody, but they can't say you've got to put four new directors on. And that, of course, is what I always want to happen at a company that is in trouble. And this one cannot seem to get it right.
Starting point is 00:21:44 It's like the HP of the 20 teens, just one disaster after another. And so even though they have had new board members come on since the first big setback that they had when they create all those fake accounts, they still can't seem to get it right. So I was absolutely delighted, and I hope we get more of these kinds of regulatory responses going forward. Yeah, Wells Fargo said we've got four new directors on our board. We're giving our board a refresh. It sounds like you think that's not enough of a refresh.
Starting point is 00:22:18 It's not enough of a refresh because if you're, what's the definition of sanity? If you do the same thing and expect a different result, they're still going through the same process of finding directors, and that's not going to be good enough. And I think what this says is that you can keep going through the same old processes, You can keep having your same nominating committee essentially replace one cookie cutter with another cookie cutter. But we're going to be watching who is on the quality of these boards of these financial institutions. And until you get it right, we are going to keep coming back and telling you to reboot. One of the things you've written about throughout your career is excessive executive compensation.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And a company that you've been critical of in the past is Chipotle. Chipotle now has a new CEO. Ironically, they hired the guy who was running Taco Bell. I'm not sure how that went over with Steve Ells, the former CEO and the founder of Chipotle. Els is staying on as executive chairman. What did you think of that shakeup? Well, again, Chipotle's had a couple of, you know, it's not just one bad moment. They've had a couple of bad moments, and they really needed to do something very different.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I'm not sure that this is the right direction because the one thing, everybody likes about Chipotle is that it isn't Taco Bell. So, you know, if they start serving Tacoville-type food, you can see a lot of the customers leaving. So I'm a little concerned about it, but I'm hopeful. I would like to have seen the old CEO leave entirely. Regardless of the company, company X hires new CEO, what would send a signal to you as someone who cares a great deal about shareholder rights and companies aligning their interests with shareholder interests. What would be, in Nell Minow's opinion, the single best move in terms of compensation, is it a new CEO coming into a company and saying, don't pay me a dime, I want it all in stock?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Is there a cap to what you would want? What would send a strong signal to you that, oh, this person is serious and this is someone I think I'm going to like? I got a really simple answer to that. and that is indexed stock options or index stock grants. You may have noticed we've had quite a run-up in the stock market over the last few years, and what that has meant is a lot of windfall profits for CEOs. And unless you're outperforming the market or outperforming your peer group,
Starting point is 00:24:46 you should not be getting crazy pay. You should not be getting that upper echelon of pay. So what I want to see is somebody who comes in and says, I am setting the bar high. I am not digging a hole in the ground to jump over the bar. I am going to set it high, and I'm going to take a running jump and good on top. And the way to do that is options or stock grants that are tied to beating the market. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Let's move into the entertainment industry. And since the last time we talked, we've learned more about the Walt Disney company's streaming plans. They're going to include an ESPN streaming service for five bucks a month. When you think about streaming services, with all due respect to who, which has some very nice offerings. Do you think Walt Disney and Netflix are on a collision course, or do you think they are offering complementary services? I do think they're on a collision course.
Starting point is 00:25:41 You know, what did we think about Netflix and Hulu when they started? We thought, oh, they're going to show us content that has been produced by other people. And I think it's surprised everybody that they have been so aggressive in pursuing original content. And that goes for Amazon, too. So I think they are really putting a target on the content creators like Disney and the networks, CBS, ESPN. So, yeah, I do think – I think it's going to benefit consumers in the short run, because there'll be some very intense competition, but I expect a reconsolidation eventually. Speaking of the Walt Disney Company, Black Panther has already taken in nearly half a billion dollars at the worldwide box office.
Starting point is 00:26:26 what did you think of the movie and what, if anything, does the success of Black Panther mean for the movie industry? Well, it could not be more important for the industry for a couple of reasons. Reason number one is, of course, we knew it was going to do spectacularly well in the U.S. I thought their estimates were a little low, and I was right. It just has been phenomenal. But what's really interesting to me about the numbers is that nobody was expecting the international audience to do so much for it. And the reason is that the conventional wisdom has always been
Starting point is 00:27:01 that people outside the United States do not really want to see a lot of movies with people of color in the main role. Well, I think one reason for that is that, you know, if we send something like fences or 12 years of slave, that's something that they find hard to relate to. But when you're talking about a Marvel movie, when you're talking about a superhero, we're talking about a superhero who's from another country,
Starting point is 00:27:24 I think they should not have been surprised at this kind of a response. It has been tremendous, and I think this is going to open up international markets. You know, right now even Hollywood movies make more internationally than they do in the U.S., and so this is going to be hugely important. This cast is extraordinary. Everybody in it just hits a home run and then some. And so this is going to open up opportunities for all of these wonderful and talented people. And Ryan Coogler, who's only 31 years old, this is his third movie.
Starting point is 00:27:54 The world is open to him. He is going to be a major figure for a long, long time. Yeah, you got the chance to sit down and talk with him recently. Is he publicly traded? Because I think I'd like to buy shares of Brian Couglin. You go along on him big time. He is the most thoughtful, quiet, sincere person. He wanted to know more about me so that, you know, he would understand my questions. He wrote down when I said to him, you know, who I was writing for and all that.
Starting point is 00:28:21 You can see the interview at rogeriebert.com. And if the question got too complicated, he would write down the question so that he could make sure he would answer every part of it. And what he said that really touched me to tears was that he had always wondered all his life. He said since I was five years old and first really understood what it meant to be black, I always wondered what part of me was African and what part was American. And I always felt that the African part of the people who came to live in America had been taken away from them. And the more I did research in Africa, I realized that that's very much a part of us and that African-American culture is deeply rooted in Africa. And you see that that's a very important theme of the movie.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Let's get to the Academy Awards. And we'll get to the big awards in a second. But I want to start with Best Documentary, because we had Steve James on, the director of Abacus, small enough to jail. For those who haven't seen it, it's about a small family-run bank in New York City that is the only bank indicted in the wake of the 2018. mortgage crisis. It's a great documentary. It is surprisingly funny. And it has one of the best families you're going to see in any
Starting point is 00:29:28 movie in any category. So the official position of this show is we're rooting for Abacus. We're in the tank for Abacus, but it's best documentary. The race appears to be wide open. Do you think this is a film that has a shot?
Starting point is 00:29:44 I would love to see it get the award. And it's a fabulous movie. I'm thrilled that it has already been shown on PBS, and I hope that they will show it again. But I think probably faces places has got the lead at this point. All right. Let's move on to three of the biggest awards, and as we do every year, give us who should win and who you think will win. And we'll start with Best Actor, which, with Gary Oldman playing Winston Churchill, this kind of seems like it's his to lose.
Starting point is 00:30:19 There is no way anybody's going to take it away from Gary Oldman. I absolutely loved that movie, and I loved his performance. He was incredible in it. And importantly, he has won the preliminary awards, not just the Critics Awards, which I vote in, and therefore are most important, but also the Screen Actors Guild, which is the same exact people. So if that's how they voted on one day, they're going to vote the same way, I think, another day.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Nothing's going to change their mind. So Gary Oldman should win, will win. In terms of best actress, once again, it is such a strong group this year. Who do you think should win and who do you think will win? I'd love to see it go to Sally Hawkins from Shape of Water. I would kind of in my head give it to her for two things that she did last year for that and for Maude, a wonderful performance earlier in the year. But I can't complain if it goes to the person I think will win,
Starting point is 00:31:17 and that's Francis McDormand who will be getting her second Oscar. she gives a performance of incredible ferocity in three billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri. And more than that, she's incredibly fierce, unbelievably intense in much of it. And yet, in a nanosecond, she switches to deep compassion. It's just a beautiful, beautiful performance. So I will stand up and share when she wins. Is it possible that even though she has gotten an astonishing 21 Academy Award nominations, is it possible that Meryl Streep is still somehow underrated as an actress?
Starting point is 00:31:58 I think she is. In fact, when Roger Ebert.com asked all of the contributors to pick one performance to write about at the end of last year, I picked her performance in the Post. I thought it was, even by the high standards that we expect for Meryl Streep, I thought it was absolutely extraordinary. You know, the Post is really about Catherine Grant. and her going from being a shy socialite who had greatness thrust upon her in a way she never wanted, never anticipated, when her husband committed suicide and she had to take over the paper, and everything had to be just as she's doing an IPO,
Starting point is 00:32:33 and the bankers had the opportunity to opt out if anything went wrong. They get hit with the Pentagon papers, and she had a lot of decisions to make. And Merrill Streep just gives so much delicacy, sensitivity, so many layers to, that performance, it completely blew me away. So, yeah, I'm still long on Merrill Street. It's a big field for Best Picture. There are nine films nominated, but it really does seem like a two-horse race between the shape of water and three billboards. What do you think? You know, this is a tough one because the movies that normally would win, the movies that you think of as Oscar movies, the post would be number one, maybe the greatest showman. You know, you think
Starting point is 00:33:16 of these big studio, all audience-type films that exemplify American values. That's what you generally see in a best picture. And you can't really say that about either one of these, about three billboards, which is written by an Irish guy, and The Shape of Water, which is a spy story, a monster story, disability story, a little bit of everything all in one. I think it's probably going to go to three billboards, but I would love to see it go to The Post or to Darkest Hour. So I went to 538. I was looking on the 538 website, and they're in the business of predictions. And one of the things that struck me when they were going through the Academy Awards was it really seemed like there are going to be very few, if any, surprises on Oscar night.
Starting point is 00:34:11 look in your crystal ball and if you would complete this sentence for me. On Academy Award night, don't be surprised if... Okay, the one thing that might be an upset is everybody thinks that the best supporting actress, which is always one of the toughest categories, is going to go to Allison Janney for I-Tanya. She's got all the preliminary awards. But there might be a possibility that Lori McClain, calf, who would be my pick, could just take that away from her for Lady Bird. I'd love to see Lady Bird get recognized in some way, and I think that might be the way to go. Also, Coco, the song from Coco
Starting point is 00:34:54 has been the frontrunner all along, but I think this is me just might sneak up and overtake it from Greatest Showman. Is there something when you think about, because of course the Academy Awards are about the previous year, when you think back on 2017, is there a movie that you think, didn't really get as much attention as it should have, and this is one that isn't going to bring home a gold statue, but it's one that people should seek out. Well, just in the, well, I would have said avocas probably, but I would say just in the crazy category, just a movie that was made on a budget of about a dollar and a half, but has got so much creativity.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Forget the story. Just look at the trailer. Dave made Amazes is a lot of fun. And get out, if you haven't seen that. I know it got a lot of praise and it has been nominated. That is an extraordinary film. Let me make sure I have the title of that film, Dave Made a Maze?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Dave Made a Maze. But a guy who makes a maze, or more like a labyrinth in his apartment, and it gets away from him. If you just watch the trailer, you'll get the whole idea of the movie, and you'll see how incredibly creative it is. I say it every time, and it's true.
Starting point is 00:36:06 One of the best reasons to be on Twitter is so that you can follow Nell Minow and get her thoughts on corporate. super governance and movies and so much more. Nell, enjoy Oscar night. Bye bye. Up next, we'll give you an inside look at the stocks on our radar. This is Motley Fool Money.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Saturday night and the movie is Pounds dollar. Millionaire. As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about and the Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against, so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. Welcome back to Motley Full Money, Chris Hill, here in studio once again with Jeff Fisher, Jason Moser, and David Krentzman. You can check out past episodes of Motley full money. All of our podcasts, just go to Podcast.fool.com. And if you listen to the show on Apple
Starting point is 00:36:49 Podcasts or Stitcher, leave us a review, if you wouldn't mind. We'd appreciate it. Let's get to the stocks on our radar this week and our man behind the glass. Steve Broido is going to hit you with a question. David Kretzman, you're up first. What are you looking at this week? I'm looking at MyTech Systems, ticker M-I-T-K. If you've ever deposited a check using your smartphone, you can thank MyTech for developing that technology. They have over 90% share of that mobile deposit technology space. They start. of about 6,100 financial services companies, mainly in North America. And in addition to that mobile deposit business, which they've developed over the past 10 years,
Starting point is 00:37:21 they're developing identity verification solutions. So you can take a picture of your face, your passport, your driver's license, whatever form of of idea it might be to verify your own identity. So a little bit more secure than using a social security number, which, thanks to the Equifax breach, isn't quite so secure anymore. This is a tiny company, about $250 million market cap. They have a strong balance sheet, experienced leadership, and I think a big market opportunity. So, worth a closer look.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Steve, question about my tech check systems? It sounds very cool. Checks seem like they're probably going away as opposed to moving forward. What's the biggest single opportunity do you think for this company? Yeah, there's no doubt that the check market I think will inevitably shrink. But amazingly, only 3% of checks are deposited through mobile phone today. So I think that number will get bigger. But in the meantime, that identity verification business, I think has a bigger market
Starting point is 00:38:06 opportunity long term. Jason Mozer, what are you looking at this week? Well, Chris, I know you love it when I say war on cash. Next week, Square, ticker SQ, earnings come out on Tuesday. Jack Dorsey is looking to go two for two here, given the positive results. Twitter has already presented. And listeners will know that Square is a part of our war on cash basket. The stock has done very well over the past year, up about 160% thus far.
Starting point is 00:38:30 This is a company built to be very nimble and to use data wisely. And Square Capital, I think, is a good example of that. So, going to be very interested to see how those results are. Steve, question about Square? So I think of Square as being those little small Square card readers that allow me to buy something through a local vendor. Is there something more to this company that I should know about? Yeah, and I think really the important part is the software, which produces the purchase data that all of these vendors and merchants continue to get from customers. So I think Square has done a very good job of taking this sort of total ecosystem and really using data wisely to make better decisions.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Jeff Fisher, what are you looking at? So we all know Intel, but many of us do not know that Intel. has a more and more data-centric business now, which represents 45% of revenue, whereas microprocessors for computers, its traditional market is shrinking, almost less than half of revenue now. The company's growing sharply again, has strong free cash flow, 2.5% dividend yield, trades at 12.8 times expected earnings for this year. I think it's one worth taking another look at. Steve, question about Intel? What do you think the future of AMD's relationship with Intel will be? Obviously, they're
Starting point is 00:39:39 fierce competitors. Is there any chance they will merge? I don't think so, Steve. I think Intel will overall continue to win at that game largely because it has such economies of scale. Steve, you got one you want to add to your watch list? I think I'm going with Mr. Kretzman's pick. Okay, my tech. I like it. All right, guys, thanks for being here. That's going to do it for this week's show.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Our engineer, Steve Broido, our producer is Matt Greer. I'm Chris Hill. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.

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